I usually do 4.3ghz too.
#old-cooling
low pumice
idle tiger
This one I think I set manually to 1.3 https://hwbot.org/submission/4244602_forks_cinebench___r20_with_benchmate_ryzen_7_3700x_5133_pts
Or maybe that was just with pbo on, idr
idle tiger
Takes forever to download lol.
idle tiger
Check out benchmate if you haven't yet - makes submission really easy.
https://benchmate.org/
low pumice
ima quickly run r20 with 4.3ghz 1.325v
wanton sparrow
are you setting that through ryzen master?
warm comet
I wish my cb was that high
low pumice
it failed xDDD
yea ryzen master
I usually put a fair bit more voltage in there for 4.3ghz
wanton sparrow
why does my voltage not go below 1.296 either at idle or full load?
@low pumice what cpu you running?
low pumice
3800x
wanton sparrow
cuz i'll try my 3900x at 4.3 at 1.325v
warm comet
if you are running other monitoring software besides ryzen master it can keep the system from idling
icue will also keep it from idling
low pumice
ima try 4.25ghz at 1.325v
wanton sparrow
i just murdered icue
it seems as though my voltage has dropped down to below 1.0 after closing all software except discord and ryzen master
still spikes up every 5 seconds though
wanton sparrow
on r20?
wanton sparrow
can i turn on pbo in ryzen master or is it only through bios?
I will likely also try reapplying thermal paste today... that might help
another question I have, does my cpu cooler cause any issues with it being so heavy and put on it's side?
@warm comet @idle tiger just ran cinebench r20 at 4.3GHz at 1.325V .. high temp was 83C... score of 7424 Is that temperature normal or what you would expect?
burnt goblet
@wanton sparrow re: cooler: only if you havnt screwed it in right
warm comet
😢
wanton sparrow
@burnt goblet is it possible to overtighten a cpu cooler? mine is fairly tight on there but still within reason i would say
burnt goblet
noctua?
warm comet
I used to get more, but amd doesn't have the overclocking menu unlocked for older cpus in new agesa. I hit the edc limit and it wont go past 4ghz all core.
warm comet
overtightening isnt really and issue with amd either
idle tiger
Temps sounds reasonable t me - R20 runs a bit hotter than r15
burnt goblet
you can crush something between it and the socket thou
wanton sparrow
ahh yes, i remember now seeing the springs on it when mounting it
warm comet
it can cause all kinds of issue on intel if you get it too tight
burnt goblet
pins look real funny if you do that btw
idle tiger
The d15 comes with standoffs for either am4 or 115x/2011 etc - as longas you use the correct set, it's near impossible to overtighten a d15
low pumice
PBO is giving me much lower scores than manual lol
burnt goblet
(and no, not myself, a support ticket years ago)
wanton sparrow
so then maybe i should change my compound...
i'm currently using the noctua NT-H2 paste
low pumice
(same)
warm comet
are you hitting power limits? usually edc will hold you back
wanton sparrow
power limits with r20? or?
warm comet
I was talking to mr1111
wanton sparrow
ope srry lol
warm comet
you can see it in ryzen master.
with increased edc power limit my 2700x would do about 4.3 all core
wanton sparrow
at what temps tho
warm comet
I have a custom loop so not really comparable
low pumice
not sure
wanton sparrow
still curious xD
low pumice
doing the "auto overclocking" thing now
warm comet
it would max around 62C
idle tiger
Nt-H2 is a great paste, as long as you applied enough of it - it's not the issue
warm comet
I think my block isnt getting even pressure now though. my temps have been going higher
that or the fluid has clogged it
low pumice
I wonder if I applied too little
warm comet
I have NT-H1 on mine. I have a tube of NT-H2 waiting for when I take it apart next time.
wanton sparrow
welp, if i were to ever upgrade to liquid cooling, I don't think my case even has enough room for a radiator
maybe at the top i could fit a 280mm rad...
low pumice
I get 4970pts in r20 at 4.275ghz
wanton sparrow
i don't really know how that compares in 3800x standards, but it sounds reasonable for 8 cores
warm comet
to compare scores across different cpus you would really need to do single core tests
numbers should be similar for all 3000 series in single core at the same clock
but single core cinebench takes forever
wanton sparrow
for single core tests, would it be beneficial to turn simultaneous multithreading off?
idle tiger
Not significantly
warm comet
wanton sparrow
at what temperatures should i start to manually throttle things back? I'm curious what people have to say about their max temps and what they consider as too high...
river aspen
Max temp is when the system shuts down or clocks start to drop
wanton sparrow
i'm curious tho what temps people like to limit their pcs to.. like, I never want to see my pc above 85C
river aspen
As long as my cpu stays below tj max I am happy for a daily system
If my 8700K cpu hits 99c but doest start dropping clocks then I don't mind
granite patrol
is 82 degrees for a 1660 super under load fine?
low pumice
laptop or desktop?
granite patrol
desktop
low pumice
seems pretty toasty
while still safe, is there anything obstructing airflow or something?
maiden delta
His case might just have bad airflow
low pumice
(thats what I'm trying to get at, words are hard)
granite patrol
uhh i have meshify c i thought it had decent airflow
low pumice
hey it works
granite patrol
atx
low pumice
yea that should have good airflow
which exact 1660s do you have?
and whats like the ambient temp where your PC is at?
granite patrol
its a single fan asus phoenix i think
low pumice
oh then that might be normal, single fan cards run a a bit hotter
river gorge
yeah
granite patrol
i should have spent the extra 10$ for a double fan
river gorge
what is it idle?
river gorge
meep there is an Arctic cooler you can get
low pumice
(voids warrenty tho)
I think
idle tiger
Buy an rtx titan heat sink off ebay for like $50 and glue it on
low pumice
doesn't taking off the shroud at all void warrenty?
low pumice
50$ seems like a lot to spend on a 1660s
idle tiger
Depends on the card vendor and how much you trust their warranty policy claims. EVGA lets you do pretty much anything within reason when swapping the cooler as long as you return the card with all original hardware in the event of an RMA.
maiden delta
Ya I would rather just save for a new card
river gorge
maiden delta
Who u pointing at?
river gorge
not you 🙂
idle tiger
No fun
low pumice
Forks, know anything about MSI's policy?
maiden delta
Lol
maiden delta
Yep
river gorge
and dreamy.
maiden delta
Ok buddy
river gorge
granite patrol
lmao
idle tiger
Haha there's some warranty chart on reddit comparing major vendors
low pumice
Link plz?
idle tiger
low pumice
@idle tiger also, it seems my wifi was just acting up yesterday, these downloads going quickly now
idle tiger
Benchmate downloads quickly - it's the hwbot x264 4k/1080p benchmarks that are usually very slow to download.
idle tiger
I guess - the x264 benchmark doesn't change much, so I'd just keep it saved somewhere.
Also https://community.hwbot.org/topic/190025-the-official-benchmate-support-thread/ - big thanks to mat.
low pumice
heh?
idle tiger
(the benchmate dev) - Benchmate is an enormous help to make competitive benchmarking/overclocking more accessible.
Haha no, that's Albi
idle tiger
he's not lol, that's just flair
primal void
Best rgb fans that are optimized for to be used on a radiator?
torn flame
I need to increase the airflow to my blower gpu should i buy this: Anidees Graphic Card Cooler 3 x 80mm PWM Fan, Support ASUS Aura SYNC/MSI Mystic Sync/ASROCK Aura RGB/GIGABYTE RGB Fusion (5V 3-Pin Addressable Headers ONLY) PCI Mount Bracket with Remote - AI-GP-CL https://www.newegg.com/product/9SIA7TDA7R2626?m_ver=1 or an Accelero Extreme IV
The first one is just fans that would be underneath the card and the latter is actually changing the cooler on the graphics card
low pumice
I don't think the first one would do much good for a blower card if it doesn't replace the blower.
So I think the second one should be what you go for.
unique lilyBOT
blitzwolfz#9361 has been warned
low pumice
Mind your words
opal light
Having a hard time getting good intake on the front of NZXT 510 through the X63 Radiator, ordered a couple Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM fans - not expecting to have them ramping up to a full 3000RPM, but expecting to be able to get better flow control through SpeedFan with the "challenging" pressure balance in the compact NZXT case.... was not cheap - hoping someone can tell me I'm not completely insane for trying this out, a ~$60 experiment to get proper flow and cooling in this case. What do you all think?
dusty olive
When it comes to adjusting CPU fan settings should I use PWM or DC?
idle tiger
If you've got 4 pin fans, pwm, 3 pin - DC.
dusty olive
I have 4 pin
delicate cove
@opal light well believe it or not the stock fans in that case do better than most after market fans. But the noctuas should do better but that case is poor airflow in the first place and way to over hyped in my opinion
dusty olive
I have a hyper212 cpu fan and I've been trying to lower temps but nothing seems to change 🤷♂️
delicate cove
What case you got and do you have intake fans in front of the case
river gorge
2 minimum
one to bring fresh air in, and then the other to exhaust out the heat.
if you don't have that, no matter what you do on the inside will matter.
dusty olive
Alright. What should I look for?
river gorge
what is your case.
dusty olive
All I know is it's a mid tower
river gorge
picture
idle tiger
How loud cool of a pc do you need?
https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-003V-002C4
river gorge
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
river gorge
should be able to get a front fan on that.
dusty olive
Perfect. Anything else?
dusty olive
Will check out soon
dusty olive
idle tiger
That looks like a 120 to me
inner 80mm mounts maybe
dusty olive
Mm
river gorge
yeah get 2 120mm
gotta remember your pc sits in a wooden box too..
is there somewhere else you can place it?
that is effecting thermals also
dusty olive
No :(
Yeah it's not in a box but yeah.
I wonder if taking the side panel off would help
river gorge
currently. yes
you have no way of getting the heat out of the box, so taking the side panel off with help
even if you have a box fan or desk fan you can point at it will help
dusty olive
Isn't there a way to control fan speed via BIOS?
low pumice
Yes, there usually is.
dusty olive
That's what I thought. People were talking about how loud those fans were
green knoll
Hello 
Is there a way to customize the LiveDash OLED of the AIO "Asus rog ryujin 360" in a TRX40 AORUS MASTER mb?
Also I can't control the embedded fan RPM. It is always at 100% speed until I connect the USB cable 
opal light
@opal light well believe it or not the stock fans in that case do better than most after market fans. But the noctuas should do better but that case is poor airflow in the first place and way to over hyped in my opinion
@delicate cove Do you mean that the included non-PWM 1200RPM NXZT fans that come in their cases are better than 'comparable' 1200RPM aftermarket coolers? Again, was looking to gain control over the case cooling via SpeedFan custom curves with 2x 140mm 800-3000RPM Noctua's on the front vertical NZXT X63, a single of the same as the top mounted 140mm as exhaust, and a 120mm of the same (800-3000RPM PWM) as the rear exhaust. Really hoping this will be better than the uncontrollable 1200RPM fans that come with the case. Last case was the S340, loved it, worked well for 5 yrs, perfect for my needs (3 HDD's, 2 SSD's, and 2x NVMe, single GFX, and AIO on the CPU) but case ambient often wanted case side panel off for the most intense games like GTA/RDR2, fine for others like Arma 3, ARK/Atlas, etc. or even a 2+ hour render task
elfin compass
Just curious, what RPM should basic 120mm fans have to be considered "decent" or "good" for airflow?
kind apex
kind of depends
1200-2200 is pretty normal range
more rpm = more noise
fan blade angle, number of blades, and width of blades can also make a difference
elfin compass
And is it expected for all the fans to be the same RPM? Or does one need to be higher/lower depending on case location?
kind apex
doesnt really matter although I would try to have the same fans just to maintain good static pressure although its effects are minimal
one pushing air out for every one pulling air in
elfin compass
Okay. My case only has a spot for one exhaust fan on the rear of the case, though there are slots for 4 more on the top/front.
I was able to find a few cheaper ones from the store here, I wanted to ensure they will be adequate for the time being until I can invest in proper ones.
kind apex
they should be fine
cheap fans biggest issue is failure not ability to move air usually
elfin compass
That makes me feel better, haha.
Aesthetically, they work too. Just black. No weird colors.
kind apex
should be just fine
case fans arent super important
just dont put a cheap fan on the cpu or anything
elfin compass
Oh, I'm just using the stock cooler w/ the Ryzen 5 3600.
kind apex
thats a decent fan no problem there
elfin compass
That was one thing I planned on upgrading, however my GPU is my next item.
Kind of working 1 piece at a time.
kind apex
GPU is most important
elfin compass
Mine is 6 years old at this point, kinda waiting on the next wave of everything to come out to put the 2060 or 5600 XT down further in price.
elfin compass
Is Wednesday a special day for GPU? haha.
kind apex
just for EVGA
elfin compass
Hmph.
I know this is the cooling channel, I can PM your or more to the other chat if you don't mind answering a few more questions.
kind apex
sure no problem
torn flame
Do you guys think using a NZXT g12 with a kraken x63 would work as an aftermarket gpu cooler
idle tiger
Yep, that's actually super popular with 2080 ti folks.
Especially since samsung memory is more stable running hot.
torn flame
Yeah i have a 2080ti blower so my temps are through the roof
So I think that this will be the best option
Would you recommend the 240 or 120mm radiator
idle tiger
Definitely 240.
torn flame
thanks for your help
dusty olive
Should I go with a watercooler or case fans for lower cpu temps? I get the former can be expensive but I just wanted to hear some thoughts
sharp zinc
to get lower cpu temps you can get an AIO (water cooler) or a good heatsync fan cooler
the case fans wont change the temps on the cpu much
dusty olive
Yet I was told it would unless I read wrong
sharp zinc
it will help, but the primary thing to cool your cpu is the cpu cooler. what are your current fan set ups and cooler?
dusty olive
I don't have any case fans but I have a coolermaster hyper 212
sharp zinc
oh
get some case fans
at least 2 in from front and 1 out at back
that heat needs to be circulated out
dusty olive
That's what I thought. Tough I think my case only allows for two
sharp zinc
what case?
dusty olive
sharp zinc
okay figure out what size it supports and get those 2 fans. I would also look into investing in a new case in the future but thats up to you lol
the front should be intake and the rear should be out. its still a lot better than none
dusty olive
From what I saw it only allows about 2 fans. One in the front and one on the back (and maybe one on the bottom
sharp zinc
it will be fine to have only 2
dusty olive
Saw this online. Didn't know if that area counts as a fan mount
heady gust
What’s the most budget cpu fan I can get? I’m doing a 700 build and I’m cutting back on the fan part...
maiden delta
If your getting a ryzen cpu the stock fan should be fine
magic wave
@dusty olive that is a fan mount
dusty olive
I thought so
idle tiger
Gammax 400 is great for $20
maiden delta
Is there a difference between copper and aluminum cooling surfaces. Does one cool better than another?
chrome cedar
copper has more thermal conductivity
maiden delta
So it tends to be more efficient then?
chrome cedar
yes
maiden delta
Ok nice 👌
torn flame
When removing my AIO cooler to clean the radiator do I have to reapply thermal paste?
maiden delta
Are you taking the block off the cpu?
torn flame
Yeah
the radiator is in a tight spot
So i have to remove the whole thing to clean it
maiden delta
Yes I would reapply the thermal paste
maiden delta
I use rubbing alcohol with paper towels and thats always done it for me
I'm not sure about alcohol swabs
Just makes sure it dries and there's nothing left on it before reapplying and securing
torn flame
Ok thanks for your help
maiden delta
Np
heady gust
is this good?
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
heady gust
@low pumice ryzen 3600
heady gust
okay cool
low pumice
@heady gust unless you want to OC, then you should prob spend more on a beefier cooler
heady gust
okay
dim oracle
Hey, I just finished building my computer and when checking temps on my R5 3600 its idling at about 60C with the stock cooler and thermal paste. Would a better thermal paste solve alot of my problems or do I need to buy a new CPU cooler?
chrome cedar
It could be the thermal paste or just bad thermal paste application. Do a stress test to see how hot it gets, it might just be the fan curve
river gorge
if it's idling at 60c I wouldn't do a stress test.
idle tiger
karmic orchid
linus's expression tho lol
chilly cargo
Can you guys recommend a air cooler for an 8700?
minor garnet
Need a good am4 cooler for ~45 can anyone help?
low pumice
USD, AUD, CAD, what currency?
minor garnet
USD
low pumice
Ordering from the US I assume?
minor garnet
Yes, if its not to big of a hassle could I be bought off Amazon as it only have a gift card on there
low pumice
This should work at 49$
https://www.amazon.com/Mugen-Rev-CPU-Cooler-Support/dp/B06ZYB8K77/
minor garnet
Ok thank you very much kind sir!
shhhh
I know I know
but thats all i've got right now
dont warn the others
Thank you
vagrant mesa
is 2 case fans (120mm) enough for a rx 580 and r5 2600
chrome quail
Is a hyper 212 capable of cooling a 3900x? or would it be wise just to get a more exepsnive cooler such as the noctua nh-u12s
chrome cedar
I would stick with the stock rather than get a hyper 212
save money you can spend on a better cooler later
maiden delta
Ya ^
chrome quail
I can afford the nh-u12s was just curious if the hyper 212 was able to handle the 3900x
maiden delta
No I wouldn't use it
low pumice
NH-U12s is great
chrome quail
Yea I intially wanted to grab an AIO but longevity/performance when it comes to parts is more of a priority than aesthetics
dusty olive
https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-acfan00093a-case-fan/p/N82E16835186191?Item=N82E16835186191 So I want to purchase these but apparently they don't come with screws. Should I still go with them incase they actually do or don't?
(INB4 get Noctua)
topaz blaze
NZXT Kraken X73 360mm - RL-KRX73-01 - AIO RGB CPU Liquid Cooler - Rotating Infinity Mirror Design - Improved Pump - Powered by CAM V4 - RGB Connector - AER P 120mm Radiator Fans (3 Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082DYKB1F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_M3nJEbRFY6RNY
Is this worth it if I’m going to over click?
Clock*
low pumice
170$ so expensive
@topaz blaze go with like a NH-D15 if you just want to OC a bit, and if you're really THAT keen on using an AIO, go with the corsair h115i.
low pumice
yea
dusty olive
Should I still get those fans?
low pumice
Well Linus also did a video on how Air cooling is better lol
clever berry
LIEnus will do anything for a paycheck
low pumice
psst
noctua
dusty olive
psst
low pumice
yea lol
dusty olive
budget
dusty olive
I'm aware of how well noctua is but they're too expensive for now and they're sold out
low pumice
bruh
dusty olive
I need 2 fans bro
dusty olive
Oops sorry meant on newegg
low pumice
same price as that arctic thing
dusty olive
Looks like I have no choice
low pumice
in stock on newegg too, for a bit more
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-s12b-redux-1200-pwm-case-fan/p/N82E16835608061?Description=nf s12&cm_re=nf_s12-_-35-608-061-_-Product&quicklink=true
dusty olive
It's shipped by someone else tho
low pumice
so go with amazon
dusty olive
Right.
Hmmm maybe I could wait. Maybe it'll arrive earlier
Seller only has one available. RIP
torn flame
How big are radiators for aios
I want to buy a 240mm but i have small clearance because of power cables
copper patrol
radiators for AIOs most commonly come in 120, 140, 240, 280, and 360mm sizes
low pumice
@copper patrol I think they mean the thickness of rads
torn flame
Sorry yeah i meant thickness
copper patrol
generally between 25-35mm
misty dagger
should i get an aio cooler if so which is the best deal,
low pumice
NH-D15
torn flame
My case fans are not plugged into fan headers
But still operate
How do they do that
low pumice
you WOT
torn flame
Im sorry for asking alot of questions ive been fixing a prebuilt
low pumice
wtf
torn flame
So this is a learning experience
low pumice
are they plugged into anything else
torn flame
No i traced the cables back to the psu and an rgb header
The Chass1 and Chass2 fan headers are empty
low pumice
you sure it's a rgb header?
torn flame
Yeah it says RGb header above it
low pumice
where is it plugged in
torn flame
Well i was wrong about the rgb header
Its not plugged in there
The cables just run down into the power supply
low pumice
might be sata power
torn flame
Probably
Should i plug them into the headers
So they are controlled by the mobo
Or just leave them be
unique delta
guys should i get the aorus 240m aio or nhd15?
money isnt a problem, and im just worried about temps and noise
low pumice
If you aren't one of those people that need to have an AIO, I'd rather take a NH-D15.
low pumice
And by the way, if you just really like the looks of AIOs or smth, Corsair H115i is a better AIO.
unique delta
thats true
sharp zinc
Both will do good on temps but if you're not OCing and have amd, the stock cooler is also good on temps. So at that point its more about what do you think looks nicer? I cant comment on noise cause, well, mostly deaf 😛
unique delta
naw im going 9700k
low pumice
no please no
unique delta
why?
low pumice
sticking with a single brand isn't great
unique delta
why?
low pumice
It just limits options
sharp zinc
gigabyte isnt bad i just wanted to make a bad pun
low pumice
Gigabyte is okay
sharp zinc
but yeah brand synergy is expensive and not always good
low pumice
I didn't even know they made AIOs
unique delta
im going with the 2080 super with rgb from gigabyte
also the mobo im getting is really nice
i also heard their aios r really good
low pumice
hmm
unique delta
qoui
sharp zinc
i think the board im using in my podcast pc is a gigabyte. it does this thing where like instead of going bios>black screen>windows screen, it goes bios> ton of text> windows. Idk if thats just my specific board or something gigabyte just does 🤔
its the only one ive had that does that though and also the only gigabyte mobo i've ever used
unique delta
interesting
low pumice
GN never made anything on the gigabyte aio...
unique delta
im getting a z390 board so ill be good
low pumice
all I know is the evga clc 280 and h115i are your best bets for aios
unique delta
im going 240
sonic cedar
low pumice
bruh
low pumice
cursed
unique delta
just how
low pumice
you need some of these in your life I guess
unique delta
lmaooooo
low pumice
lol
low pumice
holy expensive
low pumice
uphere fans
unique delta
lmaooo imagine not having mobo rgb compatibility
low pumice
I consider Nf-a15s expensive, and those are 20$ a fan
sharp zinc
42 dollar for 2 fans isnt really value
low pumice
...?
sharp zinc
oh wait
low pumice
with a15s?
sharp zinc
there are apprently more than one type of prizm
low pumice
agh marketing stuff
sharp zinc
unique delta
theyre 140m, are actually reaaaaaly good fans, rgb, and come with a controller hub
and no not those
i dont like those
low pumice
this is what shows up for me
sharp zinc
yeah i found the others lol
unique delta
right
low pumice
well Noctua is prob still better xD
sharp zinc
looks like newegg
sonic cedar
Will those noctua fit on muh Hydro Series H115i
low pumice
a15s? I'm not sure
prob not
those are made for cpu coolers and are wider than usual
sonic cedar
Hmmm
low pumice
one sec
like these would prob work
but A15s with their weird shape and all might not work
sonic cedar
Thank you!
low pumice
You're welcome.
unique lilyBOT
spicysour#1439 has been warned
sonic cedar
Oh no
low pumice
bad words are bad
sonic cedar
I'm fairly new to this. I had to replace my motherboard because MSI is 
sonic cedar
I got the Godlike and the audio got borked
low pumice
I have b450 pro carbon ac
works fine for everything
overclocks fine too
I also have MSI monitor and MSI GPU :p
everything works good
sonic cedar
Eventually I'm going to replace this ROG strix
sonic cedar
idle tiger
@unique delta I'd say D15. If you aesthetic/RGB preference prefers an AIO - go with an H115i platinum or equivalent.
unique delta
thanks!
desert prism
I just got a meshify C, are the fans how they are good enough, or should I add another fan or 2? And should I change the configuration at all (put a fan on top)?
cold island
they should be fine stock
desert prism
@cold island thank you
river gorge
@unique delta you should get that new EKWB AIO
dense haven
Is anybody else having an issue with the NZXT Kraken Z73 and the CAM software? The cooling reports, but the customization of the screen is saying there is another program interfering.
unique delta
@river gorge its only pre order rn 😦
harsh hatch
I've given up on Noc fans
I mean they are amazing
but uhh
heres the thing
Noctua has a stupid amount of prestige associated with it
people dont even care if its good anymore, they just care if its noctua because "NOCTUA cant have bad fans"
you know
its true
tidal glen
yeah absolute loyalty to a brand isn't good
harsh hatch
but really gotta ask yourself if its worth it or not
tidal glen
quality of the product over producer of it
harsh hatch
and if the performance is REALLY there
exactly
there is 1 brand though
ngl I kinda fanboy it
and thats Arctic
magic wave
I just take fans out of broken OEM computers :^)
I don't have room for any on my computer, but I have a spare fan now so yeet
low pumice
I'm still going to stand by noctua
because I know of no bad noctua fans
until someone can bring me evidence, I'm going to stand by it
unborn tulip
would you say an AIO is a good idea for a 900 budget pc
i'm thinking no but my friend here is yelling about how good they are .-.
low pumice
@unborn tulip stop, air cooling can be even better than AIOs lol
low pumice
give this to your friend hax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk
azure crown
tecc tip
dusty olive
@harsh hatch It's funny you mention them considering I bought fans from them yesterday
harsh hatch
@low pumice I can name several bad Noctua fans
low pumice
@harsh hatch dew it
harsh hatch
Industrial PPC 3000 line
low pumice
Link?
low pumice
no, to a review that says they're bad
harsh hatch
but loud as all hell
and can only tune down to 35%
thats the main issue
is they are always above 1000 rpm
low pumice
... They're industrial fans, that's what they're supposed to do
It's for uses like Linus' blowymatron
maiden delta
Lmao wrecked
azure crown
i have 3 of those fans
they are awesome
they run at the typical 1500rpm just fine, extremely quietly
but then, for people like me who don't care as much about noise, they crank up to 3000 and kick some serious ass
and they dont sound whiny, just the sound of air moving, really
heady gust
Is the fans on the fractual design G even good?
neat river
They’ll do the trick for a while but you should replace them as soon as you can
topaz blaze
Front mounted or top mounted AIO radiator mounting ?
fluid lichen
balmy orchid
I'm trying to colling mod these components. Will a standard cooler fit into the holes?
quick berry
Any suggestions for a good Air Cooler sub $100, I have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 and its served me pretty well, but i was pretty stupid and i took it off and put it back on and overtightened the living crap out of it and messed up the mounting hardware a bit, it still works pretty good, but its not on there well lol
quick berry
Thanks!
modern wren
are there any packs of four fans? and if not (or if so), where can i find 12v fgb fans?
covert hull
I think uphere has some decent rgb fans that come in a 5 pack or something for pretty cheap
maiden delta
I have very adequate air cooling in my case rn but I don't like how loud my fans are. Whats a good rpm I can keep them at consistently without sounding like an air tunnel
dusty olive
That depends
maiden delta
Well ya lol but whats a good place to start
dusty olive
Does your case fan have pwm?
low pumice
@maiden delta just try different ones to figure it out, I guess start at like 1200 rpm and go up or down
maiden delta
Alright I'm just gonna play with them
tidal glen
what exactly is the distinction between blower fans and regular fans on a GPU? in terms of like case cooling, environment-based, that type of stuff
idle tiger
Blower fans exhaust directly out of the case, the "other kind" of gpu fan setup blows the hot air back into the case.
burnt goblet
lets say you are doing a bunch of gpus
blower style coolers can be preferred
because you have less recycling of hot air
however, the normal/traditional downside is noise
idle tiger
Ya, if you've got something like 8 GV100's in a compute box - probably best to go with blowers.
burnt goblet
however, for consumers, generally, going with non-blower style coolers is fine
do keep in mind, there are exceptions
itx cases come to mind
does that answer it for you @tidal glen ?
burnt goblet
you are very welcome :)
river gorge
Arctic makes nice stuff.
chrome quail
How do I change the pump speed on my corsair aio? through ICUE right?
wraith iron
Yes
cursive hamlet
I'm planning on getting a custom liquid cooling setup. I just wanted to know if it's worth getting the motherboard block for my crosshair VIII board or just get a cpu block for my 3900x
price difference is like $55
azure crown
Motherboard block is super cool
idle tiger
Aesthetic preference tbh. VRM's on that board don't need help, but... rgb/ cool factor.
cursive hamlet
then they also have a cpu block that shows temps too but I don't see it anymore rip.
there it is lol
basically if I get the bundle above I was going to upgrade the cpu and gpu block to those ones.
or go with EK which will be 200-400 more expensive maybe
cursive hamlet
that's my ek shopping cart. so apparently after taxes it's just under $1000..
ah that's why items aren't on sale anymore lol was at $801 last night
dusty olive
How come I can't set both of my fans to 1800rpm?
low pumice
What are you using to set rpm
dusty olive
PWM
dusty olive
BIOS
low pumice
Are you using a splitter or no
low pumice
So when you set it to 1800rpm in bios, and save and restart, what happens?
dusty olive
Idk how to set it there. It seems stuck to 337rpm
low pumice
What brand mobo
dusty olive
MSI
low pumice
It's in there somewhere I know that... I'm forgetting exactly where rn tho
Are you on b450 or x570
dusty olive
Z390
low pumice
Ah it's got the other bios layout then
dusty olive
Meaning?
low pumice
I was going to go check my bios, but I got a different layout so it won't be the same as yours
Lemme check anyways bc it'll prob be in the same category
dusty olive
I know hardware monitor is a thing
low pumice
Hmm looks like you might have to just fan speed to 100% on any level
dusty olive
I see
low pumice
Here's my bios
low pumice
fair enough
dusty olive
I think I solved it. It had to do with socket
I wanted to plug it in system fan 2 but it didn't reach
pseudo marsh
Currently i have a cooler master ml240r water cooler, it been in my pc for a while and wanting something different. Currently my ryzen 52600x is OC to 4.0, and was wondering if a decent sized air cooler will be able to keep the temps down with this OC. i haven't had much experience when overclocking with air and just wants some opinion
low pumice
Afaik yes.
umbral raptor
Air>water
river gorge
=
maiden delta
Lol
heady gust
Should I get the nh-n9s with a extra fan for a pull-push setup or a liquid cooler?
dusty olive
I used to be able to do but now...
maiden delta
Isn't that just a 212 evo?
The fan is super easy to get on lol
Also looks like you put it in upside down 😂
little skiff
Would it being upside down perhaps contribute to why you can't get the fan back on?
maiden delta
This is the fan correct?
dusty olive
I have the metal brackets
maiden delta
Oh
dusty olive
Yeah
maiden delta
So not bendable then 😂
dusty olive
Yeah :/
maiden delta
You can take them off tho right?
dusty olive
Yeah
maiden delta
Thatll be your best bet then
dusty olive
I don't have anything else to keep the fan on
maiden delta
No. Like take one bracket off, hold it to the heat spreader and out it back on
dusty olive
I've tried that unless I'm doing something wrong
maiden delta
Might be difficult because the heat spreader is already on your board in the case
dusty olive
Mhm
maiden delta
Lol
dusty olive
Don't know what's funny but sure
dusty olive
You can't change cpu fan directions right?
Like I can't choose which side of the heatsink to put it on?
dusty olive
Thinking about getting another CPU fan at this rate 🤬
sinful horizon
cant u just flip the fan over?
dusty olive
Not really
sharp zinc
yeah you should be able to switch which side the fan is on, or if not, you can just take it off and install it facing the opposite way
sinful horizon
thats what i thought
dusty olive
The fan is a pain to install
sharp zinc
but that cooler looks to me like the fan can be put on either side
dusty olive
sharp zinc
that doesnt tell me anything
sinful horizon
take the bracket off and put it on the other way?
i cant really talk, using a stock cooler until friday XD
dusty olive
Yeah still won't attach
sharp zinc
both sides of the cooler look the same right?
sinful horizon
hes about to blow ur mind
dusty olive
Yes
sharp zinc
and you can put it on the other side?
dusty olive
Apparently not
sharp zinc
hold on did you buy that new?
dusty olive
Yes
dusty olive
Those are the brackets used to hold the fan up
sharp zinc
it should be clipped over the side, something like this
sinful horizon
sharp zinc
it should fit on both
dusty olive
Well whenever I try to put in the other bracket it falls out
Thus it's the best I can do
dusty olive
Decided to go one bracket
sinful horizon
btw @dusty olive how is that cooler? thats the one i ordered
maiden delta
I have it. Its alright I guess. Dumps on my old instel stock (obviously) but not much better than my r5 stock
dusty olive
What baby said
I know when I use intel game mode (even with case fans) temps go up to about 75 degrees
sinful horizon
i think im going to double up the fans, maybe even dual noctuas without going all the way and buying the $200 noctua cooler
dusty olive
I thought it had to do with location but yeah...
low pumice
idk about yours
kindred gate
does anybody know a good heat sink that can cool a ryzen 5 3600 overclocked???
low pumice
Most of them can
elfin compass
Its just ugly.
rain root
Noctua black
dim oracle
Okay.. So when I built my computer a couple weeks ago I could only plug in 2 of the case fans. I was informed today that there is such thing as a case fan splitter, but I dont know how reliable they are. Does anyone have experience with them?
copper patrol
ive used this one before
it works well
theres a 10 port variant if you need more too
dim oracle
Alright, thanks man, I'll give it a try, I just need all 4 of my fans to actually spin.. I have 2 installed and just sitting there
copper patrol
that fan hub should do the trick
dim oracle
Alrighty
little skiff
Anybody got recommendations for RGB fans that aren't super expensive? The ones I was going to get seem to have been discontinued.
copper patrol
3 pack for $50
good brand, 5v argb and if your motherboard doesnt have that header than it comes with a controller so you can use it anyways
wait shoot it says not available
prime ocean
Does anyone know what the stock rgb fans are for the Thermaltake v200 rgb?
dim oracle
Might be those, not quite sure due to not being able to see what the fan inside the case looks like. Currently unavailable from newegg though.
kindred gate
does anybody know quality rgb fan 120mm???
preferably a 3 pack?
thats no more than $80
umbral raptor
i bought the rf 120s
they are 12v 4pin
look pretty cool
like 50 for a 5 pack
prime ocean
@dim oracle Thank you!
prime ocean
tender wagon
Should I get this to switch out my stock amd 2600 cooler?
cold island
i'd avoid 120mm aio's unless they're like sub 50
bitter wharf
Hey guys so I have an HP gaming laptop. I thoyght my fans werent working but I did a BIOS update and they turned on loud and fast(which is great) and I have my fans for always on but when I get into windows they just are either slow or not on. Any help?
burnt goblet
@bitter wharf that is normal
before windows "takes control" you are hearing the fans just running all out, and then when windows gets its drivers in action. the fans spin down to what they need
frosty pebble
Any recommendations on thermal paste? It would be used with a Wraith Prism cooler on a Ryzen 7 3700x if that matters
solemn oriole
I went with Arctic MX-4 recently. Decent and good $/oz if you think you'll end up using a fair amount. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
low pumice
That cooler does have preapplied thermal paste if you didn't know already
prime ocean
It will do the trick if you don't extreme overclock
but you can see what other people have to say
frosty pebble
I'm not going for an extreme overclock, maybe just a little overclock, but I'm sure the Wraith Prism would be a bit limiting
cold island
34 duo is pretty good for the price
hoary mirage
opal pike
Anyone have a cooler recommendation for TR 3970x? I ordered a dark rock pro tr4 but I'm also considering the kraken x63. Should I just stick with the air cooler?
cursive hamlet
I'm stressing out trying to decide who I want to get my custom liquid cooling loop from, EK, Corsair or Bykski
EK and Corsair are super close in price but Bykski would be under $1000
I was able to get the corsair list to be under $1000 by dropping their fans and fan controllers
which in that case it'd be in the price range of Bykski
idle tiger
What about Alphacool, Watercool, Koolance, Optimus etc
cursive hamlet
haven't heard of any of those other than alphacool
and eww my cart on ek is more expensive than what their prices are in the store... says the fan in store is $25 each but in my cart they're $30
maiden delta
I want to custom cool so badly but first of all, I don't have the money
Second of all, I really don't need the cooling 😂
idle tiger
Watercool makes the "heatkiller" stuff - silly name for a brand , I know
cursive hamlet
I want to go with a distroplate build tbh
idle tiger
I love that they make their reservoirs out of borosilicate glass - just wish they also had options with non-plastic pump mounts and stuff.
cursive hamlet
because it's more or less simple to do
idle tiger
Are you going with hard line tubing?
cursive hamlet
yeah
idle tiger
iirc your budget is around 1k? - ya I'd go with a distroplate
cursive hamlet
with Bykski they have the kits on aliexpress but I'd rather pay about the same if not a little more to buy from their us store
just because it'd be here like next week or so vs a month from now
but it's more or less the fittings where I get stumped lol
well that and I'm not sure if I need to buy plugs and if I do how many I'd need.
sinful horizon
you dont want to mess with stuff that may leak, id say ali is not the move unless you know someone with the kit you want to buy
atleast that would be the safest
cursive hamlet
That’s why I mentioned the official bykski store here in the USA
hallow mango
hard or soft water cooling?
sinful horizon
soft for simplicity, hard for looks. watercooling is more about looks anyway, so hard.
but hard tubing is not fun to fab
torn flame
Has anyone had experience with the Kraken G12
idle tiger
I've heard the G12 + an nzxt AIO works wonders for cooling a GPU.
torn flame
@idle tiger when installing on a gpu where would you connect the radiator, fan, and pump cables to?
idle tiger
I'm sure the G12 kit includes instructions
granite patrol
any recommendations for case fans without RGB?
I know that noctua is best but which model?
maiden delta
Noctua
granite patrol
versed oasis
Do they still make those Zalman's? I was planning on getting one for my AMD Ryzen 5... but honestly no need. Stock heat-sink is very nice. (nice enough for me!). I miss those big soda can looking suckers though 😮
low pumice
the cnps20x?
it's overpriced right now...
actually the price dropped back down to a reasonable-ish level for the cnps20x now
https://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Cooler-Patented-Corrugated-Design/dp/B084ZWZXKX/
tall viper
guys
low pumice
yes
tall viper
does anyone know why i cant control my fan speeds in bios
tall viper
i tried using asus fan xpert and it says it doesnt support this model
low pumice
... but bios?
low pumice
It's in there
low pumice
Well actually do you have PWM fans or no
eh, otherwise the motherboard can just supply less power, it should be the same setting
weary jay
low pumice
@weary jay not worth 250 USD at all
<150$ if you really like it, and I'd put the value of it at like 130$.
fleet urchin
hey I'm looking into building a new rig. I've built one before, but this one's going to be liquid cooled. What should I look for when buying my cooling system as far as part compatibility goes? are the heat syncs sort of a one size fits all deal, or do they get very specific to what card you use etc. . . ?
low pumice
@fleet urchin there are specifics. CPU blocks are based off the socket, and GPU blocks are all over the place..
For GPU, if you go reference, it makes your life easier trying to find a full cover waterblock
Corsair Hydro X is good but very expensive, something like 800$ for a full loop of CPU and GPU
fleet urchin
@low pumice thanks for the info! I appreciate it.
elfin compass
Not sure if this question is for in here or cases, but I have have my set up for a month now. I'm seeing a fairly large amount of dust inside of the case. Is my fan set up messed up? I have 3 intake fans on the front, 1 exhaust on the back and 1 exhaust on the top of the case.
If I need to relocate my question, just let me know! Not sure where fan questions go.
heady gust
Where is your pc?
burnt goblet
@elfin compass the simple answer is most likely not one you are going to enjoy
clean your room
elfin compass
It's on top of my desk in the living room. Lol.
I mean, we are relatively clean people. But if it's just dust more, then I accept it. Haha.
calm sky
What’s a good decent priced RGB cooler?
calm sky
So a good AIO?
prime ocean
How would i control my case fans via mobo on the thermaltake v200 tg rgb?
Like where would i plug the rgb header in the motherboard?
low pumice
Yea, it has weird names on mobos, depending on which mobo.
flint gulch
should i get an aio for a ryzen 5 3600 if i ever plan on upgrading
little skiff
aren't AIOs mostly for looks at this point?
magic wave
well
I don't really have an opinion on water cooling, other than, it's too expensive for decent AIOs, and I'm not comfortable with water inside a computer
I would feel pretty comfortable using a heat pipe air cooler with even up to Ryzen 7, on the condition that I don't get the urge to overclock
I think I would overclock a 1600 to get it to the 4GHz barrier for those single threaded tasks
but the 1600 is within the heat dissipation threshold of the stock cooler from what I gather, and can be overclocked a little with it
if it started to get hot, I would just buy a better air cooler
that's my stance on the matter :>
eternal flint
Yea
@magic wave if it gets hotter I would recommend this: https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Macho-RT-fan-TY-147B/dp/B01BCLXO7Q
It’s one of those big air coolers but it does well on cooling
magic wave
vroom
eternal flint
It has 7 heat pipes
magic wave
that's a lot of pipe
eternal flint
Yea
That’s why I recommend
Good cooling
TDP 300 cooling
It has good conductivity also
So it should be able to conduct more heat and dissipate the heat
Keeping your cpu cool
Just depends on your case size of you can get this
magic wave
if I get a big enough case with my plan-to-build-someday computer I might do that
eternal flint
Ah ok
So you have one of those smaller case?
@magic wave
Also
That’s for a intel cpu
Sorry about that
Let me find good and cooler for you
magic wave
yup
magic wave
same CPU as in the second image
eternal flint
For that case size
magic wave
I doubt I need any thermal headroom for it though, it's a locked processor and it stays nice and cool I think
eternal flint
Oh
Yea
You can use it with stock ok
But if you need something
Try this: Cryorig H5 Ultimate CR-H5B Middle Range CPU Heatsink with XF140 Fan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0154AXB4C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Pt6OEb3BK94RH
Well it’s out of stock
But does it fit in your case?
magic wave
here's the back for an idea on depth
magic wave
plenty limited lol
eternal flint
Ye
magic wave
it does have some inlet on the bottom of the chassis out front with a few cheese grater holes, as well as a big gap under the front panel
eternal flint
I found a cooler
I saw
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Air Cooler w/ Silencio FP120 120mm Fan, 4 Continuous Direct Contact 2.0 Heatpipes, Anodized Gun-Metal Black, Brushed Nickel Fins, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H25DYM3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vw6OEb0XSBDMV
Try this
@magic wave
It’s a smaller cooler
It should do a little better than stock in cooling and sound
Is it too big?
Yea
Too big
Never mind that
It’s 6 inches tall
Sorry about giving wrong results
magic wave
it would likely fit in the case I want to build a new computer in