idk about 212
#old-cooling
viral fjord
I don't want to hear my cpu fan over games or music
merry crown
If i was to enable PBO pretty sure my max temps would jump to around 55c which is still very cool
viral fjord
is the rgb header 4 pin 12V or 3 pin 5V ARGB
viral fjord
okay cool so it should work with b450 tomahawk max?
merry crown
there is a breath option as well
viral fjord
I want to sync it to my other stuff if I'm paying the $5 extra for the rgb
if it doesn't sync I'll buy non rgb version
viral fjord
it does say that it's 4 pin 12V and compatible with motherboard sync I just wanna hear it from someone I know lol
rgb is weird idk
so many things incompatible with each other it's annoying :D
merry crown
I have the CPU RGB set for cycle
low pumice
are those corsair fans
merry crown
CPU cooler is Cooler Master and case is Rosewill
viral fjord
the only rgb components I have are RAM and a few leds on the mobo itself
so I'd like to sync them all to color cycle
merry crown
Well it works with your motherboard settings
viral fjord
hmm so it says it can be returned within 30 days
guess I have no real reason not to try then
merry crown
Like i said i have no issues with it it does cool down very nicely and it is quiet
viral fjord
would you mind recording the noise at full load from about 4 ft away if possible
my cpu fan is about 4 ft away from me
if it's a hassle don't worry about it
merry crown
Thing is my case fans are a little loud but i know the difference between the noise
This is the speed for my CPU fan https://i.gyazo.com/57d87e825580c421e534a9d6b2793a36.png
anyways i got to go to sleep i have to wake up at 6
low pumice
night
viral fjord
my cpu fan just reached 3013 rpm in cinebench
low pumice
how
viral fjord
im trying to upload a video i took while holding the phone in front of my face
low pumice
how tf
viral fjord
its just the stock cooler
low pumice
like a noctua blower is 3000rpm
viral fjord
i guess u have to turn volume up to 100 to hear how it sounds irl
viral fjord
i dont need the highest quality cooler, i just dont want my room to sound like a tornado
viral fjord
just placed order
viral fjord
hey I'm replacing this wraith spire with a cooler whose fan doesn't face up, is there an optimal direction to face the fan?
if i understand correctly it should face the front of the case
and blow air towards the back
river gorge
yes
viral fjord
ok thank u
maiden delta
What is the best possible fan arrangement I can have here? Right now all fans are intake except for the one by the back. Do the intake ones on top mess with my cpu cooling tho? Thx
river gorge
I'd reverse the top
maiden delta
Make them both exhaust?
maiden delta
So ill have 3 intake and 3 exhaust. That's fine right?
river gorge
yeah just play around with it, log your temps
cold island
yeah
maiden delta
aight
river gorge
if you see no difference, then it's however you wanna have it 😄
maiden delta
yah i guess
river gorge
but once you have them reversed, it'll help the flow of air
moving throughout the case
river gorge
not at all, looks good
maiden delta
Im rebuilding it in a week with a new board and cpu so i want everything in a good state
thx
primal void
Best software to monitor cpu & gpu temps? I have a cooler master 240r aio if that makes a difference. The cooler master software is difficult to use.
tidal glen
i just use MSI afterburner
quasi copper
I also use msi afterburner first GPU OC and temp monitoring mid game, but HW monitor I used to check my temps when I first got my pc
idle tiger
hwinfo64, aida64, and for a lightweight client coretemp.
Afterburner is a staple for GPU OC/monitoring software as well.
Ryzen master is fine for appropriate systems.
willow marlin
I agree
dense yarrow
Who wants an NZXT krakenx62
dense yarrow
Nah
low pumice
Air cooling gang tho
low pumice
Lol
dense yarrow
i must be special
low pumice
You read it as aio didn't you
dense yarrow
yeah, but technically they're both "air cooled"
low pumice
Bought what
low pumice
Lol
regal plaza
@dense yarrow is it free?
golden stag
Yeah also what size is it
dense yarrow
@regal plaza 280mm
dense yarrow
I was gonna trade but i cant do that on here , sorry
autumn ice
Anyone have any thoughts on this cooler? https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rocc-16003/p/N82E16835200114?Item=N82E16835200114
chrome cedar
If it’s for an amd cpu just use the stock cooler
autumn ice
its for the i7 7700
idle tiger
Seems like a decent budget pick. Cheaper vs the popular gammax 400.
Either should be more than adequate for a 7700.
kind ridge
Is it really worth it for noctua fans or is a budget fan kit a better option
chrome cedar
kind ridge
Is there someplace I can get a 4 pack for cheaper
low pumice
Noctua fans are like the apple of fans, when apple was quality and innovative
magic sparrow
tho, you can buy like a five pack of cheap fans for the price of one - two Noctua and can probably just brute force it with low noise from lots of low RPM fans
viral fjord
so what do yall do with your stock coolers if you upgrade to aftermarket
do u just save it in case u need it in the future
azure crown
good for resale
toss it in the og cpu box
yeet it in ur closet
when the time comes to pull the cpu out, put it back in the box and list on ebay
viral fjord
i put it in the box the new cooler came in
azure crown
put it in the cpu box
viral fjord
my original cpu box is full of all the leftover cables/screws/whatever i didn't use
azure crown
that stuff goes in ur mobo box
low pumice
@azure crown you think it'll be worth more selling cooler, and box&cpu later, or selling cooler&box&cpu later
3800x with wraith prism rn
and if I need to put in a cooler to sell, I have an extra wraith spire from a dif cpu laying around
azure crown
i mean, the box alone usually adds more to the sale price
usually you can charge more for the more things you have with it
azure crown
well it wasnt online
if you go on ebay, almost always the procs in box sell for more
and no one wants to buy a stock cooler
well, very few do
might as well get rid of all of them
low pumice
I mean, wraith prism was selling for like 40$ on ebay
pallid kindle
manic tusk
What are the best quiet-ish fans with a super high cfm 140mm
oh and not noctua because their ugly as hell
modern crater
Anyone know of a waterblock that's compatible with Sapphire Pulse RX 5700?
@manic tusk be quiet! if you don't want Noctua
Noctua comes with black too BTW. Their Cromax versions are the same as the brown ones
low pumice
Noctua FTW
yea cromax noctua fans are actually fairly nice, be quiet fans look a bit better, but Noctua fans provide more cooling capacity, at about the same amount of sound
cold island
chromax a12x25’s all the way
low pumice
nf-a15 ftw
chrome cedar
sturdy timber
So I have an nzxt kraken x62 and the leds are not working, I have checked the USB 34 and Usb 12 and they both don't work for it, can anyone help me?
harsh hatch
Noctua is a TAD overratesd in the fan department
their cooler stuff is great
but their fans are just slightly above average, to the point where i could care less
their static pressure optimzied fans are great
but airflow fans I would honestly just get smth from arctic and call it a day
As for you Mr111, the Arctic p series is static pressur optimized, not the best for case cooling but it'll certainly do
cold island
well yah theres diminishing returns to fans, noctua has some of the best for noise normalized and lots of other applications
idle tiger
P14's in the $32 5 pack are my budget go-to.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-air-cooling/1713146-arctic-p12-p120-p14-p140-pressure-optimized-fans-reviews-discussion-thread.html
regal plaza
Are any of these coolers decently priced?
idle tiger
Plenty of hard data and user testimony regarding the subjective "loudness" as perceived by the ear in the thread I linked.
The posts on page 41 of that thread explain the static/cfm labeling well.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-air-cooling/1713146-arctic-p12-p120-p14-p140-pressure-optimized-fans-reviews-discussion-thread-41.html
regal plaza
Anyone know if the scythe nina 5 is good
frozen bay
is hyper 212 evo enough to overclock an i5-8600k to 4.3-4.5 ghz
harsh hatch
Should be, but I woudlnt go out of my way to buy a 212 unless it was 15$ or less
regal plaza
For.. lets say 50-100 dollars whats the best cooler I could get for a 3600? 3700X someday also
3700X in next year, unless prices remain bad if they increase
Possibly with rgb....
rEEEE
chrome cedar
wintry oyster
Got a question. I got a a s2 meshify c case. I also got a corsair hydro x custom water cooling unit. The front radiator which is where the inlet and the other outlet is on top but it wont fit with the top radiator there. Is it going to work if I switch the front radiator where the inlet and outlet is on the bottom of the case?
Or should I just return the other radiator and get a smaller one?
low pumice
@regal plaza NH-D15
regal plaza
@low pumice doesnt fit my case I think
regal plaza
Rip i know
low pumice
Hmm
regal plaza
Yeah
low pumice
Looks like you COULD fit a d15 in if you lower the fans
so something like the NH-U14S would be an better option I think
low pumice
NH-U14s honestly xD
Actually lemme check the height on the nh u12s
that might be <160mm
Yea the NH-U12s is only 158mm high
regal plaza
But noctua is so ugly :(
low pumice
There should be a chromax version on that site lemme check
aw rip you dont have the chromax version
regal plaza
Mhm
low pumice
but noctua so good :(
regal plaza
I could just buy like a 10$ rgb fan
regal plaza
True
low pumice
low noise high performance
regal plaza
Last but not least, 3rd choice if both are out?
low pumice
I guess a scythe mugen 5
regal plaza
Thanks
low pumice
Me
regal plaza
Fun fact, noctua made it that color so pepple would recognize them
regal plaza
Lol
low pumice
if I see one with just all RGB
They're just compensating for something
low pumice
They gotta be compensating for something tho
Corsair fans are like 120$ a pack
they're prob skimping out on something else like their CPU
And if they just have a huge budget, they're a loner
They gotta be compensating for smth tho, its like 100$ for a pack of corsair fans
regal plaza
AcTuAlLy ThE fAnS aRe MaGlEv
low pumice
what
regal plaza
ShHhHhHhHh
low pumice
I'm pretty sure noctua bearings beat corsair bearings too
regal plaza
ShHhHhHhHh
low pumice
Lol
ripe pollen
can i mount one of the fans in the noctua nh-d15 on the other side to get more room for my ram?
fast phoenix
Yeah, you should be able to, you would just have to swap the 'spring' to the other side
ripe pollen
alright thanks
regal plaza
@low pumice whoooooa
low pumice
what
regal plaza
That fan is way too close to the back
regal plaza
True... and you cant put it on the other side
regal plaza
Good
low pumice
my point is that theres like a border section on the case side panel
which makes it look like the back of the case
but its not
regal plaza
Ahhh ok
fast phoenix
I had to remove the exhaust fan on my antec case because of that. Ended up getting the NZXT H500 to replace it.
But now I'm on the Wraith cooler
cold island
bruh fix that cable management :v
regal plaza
He has a bad case I hope
cold island
but like the gpu cables
low pumice
I was too lazy to
low pumice
Meh
low pumice
It's good enough other than GPU cables and CPU fan
low pumice
My case can't exactly do that
regal plaza
Then get a new one
low pumice
Bruh
regal plaza
Instead of buying new keyboard, new case
low pumice
Why
regal plaza
Looks
regal plaza
F
low pumice
Like that's basically best I can do with the case and cables
The rest of the cables I couldn't stuff behind mobo
fast phoenix
Cable management is for people who share their pics all the time 
regal plaza
Lol true
fast phoenix
I had to force close the back of mine because all the cables are spaghetti back there
low pumice
@maiden delta lol yea
maiden delta
lol
regal plaza
I have just bought a new air cooler, to install it should I take out the whole mobo or just take off the current one
chrome cedar
Probably the whole mobo, there is a bracket that goes on the back
cold island
i just took off the cpu cooler and put the new one on, but it used the stock bracket
regal plaza
F
subtle flower
Does this make anyone else wince?
rustic kestrel
which is better, direct cooling or indirect cooling?
chrome cedar
Temps look ok to me
young orbit
hey everyone!
chrome cedar
hola
young orbit
So i'm about to start building a PC for the very 1st time by myself. I have most of the hardware but I just need a few other things that I'm not too certain about. I just took delivery of a Corsair 570X
my current case is a cooler master haf case so i will be transferring most of the guts into the new one. it is currently watercooled but my current setup is SUPER GHETTO
it's been about a decade since i've upgraded it and i think the liquid has started to coagulate in areas (gross, i know)
chrome cedar
so are you looking for a new aio?
young orbit
i currently have rubber tubes but i want to do hard pipes
chrome cedar
liquid cooling usually has to be cleaned every year or 2, except aios can last a bit longer because it's closed loop
hard line is tricky but looks really nice when done right
young orbit
i have the patience for it, i just need to hardware so i can do it properly
i dont know if i can still retain the same puck and radiator or if i have to get all new stuff
chrome cedar
if it's old I'd probably get new. Idk much about custom loops tho
young orbit
it has a water pump too, everything seems to be working fine, it's just old
is the puck different to every motherboard? does it have to match the CPU? does it matter if i currently have rubber tubes and want to upgrade to hard pipes?
idle tiger
Didn't break anything! https://i.imgur.com/N2SpcL5.jpg
regal plaza
@idle tiger specs?
idle tiger
9900k, 2080 ti ftw3, teamgroup dark pro 3200 cl14
regal plaza
Odd flex, but ok
idle tiger
Lol, just a leak test
regal plaza
"Yeah just a lil test lol"
crystal pollen
Wow, 65C at 5GHz. I’ve got my 9600KF at 5GHz 1.32v with an average 80C (if all 6 cores are at 100% usage for over 10 minutes).
Of course, I’m using a 120mm H75 for cooling,,,
idle tiger
The evga bios stress test is really mild - but I still think it's useful as a sanity check before booting windows and attempting a real bench run.
regal plaza
@idle tiger ln2?
idle tiger
one day 🙂
idle tiger
Maybe eventually
viral fjord
hey guys, I'm still pretty new to PCs, right now my PC's full load temps are ~76°C on CPU and ~66°C on GPU but it's winter, ambient temps are between 15-20°C, once it reaches summer ambient temps may be as high as 35°C, should I expect my CPU and GPU temps to rise by the same amount?
regal plaza
@viral fjord do you have ac?
viral fjord
yeah I'm saying 35 would be a max temp with ac
it gets as hot as 47 outside
realistically it's probably never gonna hit 35 in my room
but better stay safe with a higher estimate
regal plaza
U in f'ing india?
viral fjord
cali
regal plaza
Then why do you use celsius.
crystal pollen
Why not?
regal plaza
I mean outside
viral fjord
it's also a superior system
regal plaza
Fake news
viral fjord
it's not relevant to the question anyways
viral fjord
if ambient temps raise by 20C how much will CPU and GPU raise
regal plaza
Maybe just dont do any torture tests during then? Or is that during games
viral fjord
CPU is left on PBO running at 4.425ghz
GPU is undervolted already
GPU reaches 66 during gaming, the 76 on CPU is during torture tests
not sure how much it hits during gaming
viral fjord
my system is GPU bound so GPU usage and temps are the same in gaming or benchmarks
1080ti
regal plaza
Blower?
viral fjord
zotac amp twin fan
regal plaza
Oooooooof
viral fjord
it's not very good silicon
I can push it a little farther
the best it can do is 1962mhz @1V
any higher and it crashes
low pumice
Celcius is better for computer temp
viral fjord
I've seen some people get like 2060mhz @1V
regal plaza
@low pumice ik
viral fjord
but whatever I'm not too worried about it
regal plaza
Never do gpu stress test lol
viral fjord
so do I have a reason to be worried about my gpu temp
I assume cpu will just boost less
why not?
viral fjord
no
76 is cpu
66 gpu
and it's pinned at 100% during gaming
66C in 3dmark as well
viral fjord
1080p
regal plaza
Ahhh thats why
viral fjord
I'm on a budget so I went for 1080p144 rather than 4k60 or whatever
regal plaza
Id get 2k 120
viral fjord
I play some competitive games too so refresh rate is more important to me than resolution
I can also just use 4k DSR and it looks sharp enough
regal plaza
I can also just use 4k DSR and it looks sharp enough
@viral fjord it will be less bottlenecked then
regal plaza
Is fan at 100%?
viral fjord
yeah
viral fjord
welp guess I'll just wait and downclock it if it ends up being necessary
quick berry
Hey does anyone know anything about like a fan frame or grill that directs the air from the fan, I've seen them before but now that I actually need one, I cant find anything...
fast phoenix
quick berry
@fast phoenix Nah, it's just like a fan grill, like it screws directly onto the fan or the outside of the case, thanks for your help though, I appreciate it
unique saffron
2 busted fan blades on my MSI 1080 ti gaming x. Can I replace the fans without voiding the warranty? If it’s going to void the warranty should I just upgrade the cooler to a Morpheus II? And any suggestions for cpu aio for ryzen 2700x?
Should I kraken out my 1080 ti and put a second aio into the system at the same time? My case would support 2 aios no problem.
regal plaza
@unique saffron why get an aio in the first place
low pumice
wouldn't busted fan blades be covered by the warranty anyways?
unique saffron
Busted fan blades aren’t covered as far as I know. As far as the aio goes, the 1080ti is mounted vertically and I have trident z memory so instead of wondering is an air cooler is going to fit in this configuration on an x470 I was just gonna switch to aio.
fathom night
Looking for (so far impossible to find) replacement ===>fan(s)<==== for CoolerMaster 2008 "V8". This is the older model. See at http://us.coolermaster.com/company/aboutUs.html , see "2008" model. CM is absolutely no help. Am exhausted searching for this part which surely is made by some OEM out there. H-a-l-p-!
harsh hatch
@regal plaza 2k is 1080p...
just uhh
so you know
stop listening to stupid marketing terms
that are literally wrong
cold island
2k is 1440p
chrome cedar
^
low pumice
4k is 2160p, 2k is 1440p
cold island
4k is based off 3840 pixels wide, 2k is 2560 pixels wide
magic sparrow
2160x3840 = 4k, rounded up
1440x2560 = 2k, rounded down
1080x1920 = 2k, rounded up
If you think UHD isnt 4k, it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions
For 1080p on 2k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
cold island
so yeah tldr 2k doesn’t really give a great resolution answer, just call it 1080p or 1440p
magic sparrow
In general I hate using the "k" naming because it is so vague
topaz blaze
With the PC I'm building it only has one case fan should I make it so the cold air goes in or have it take the air out of the case?
magic wave
genus
topaz blaze
The case only supports one case fan
magic wave
where is the fan mount?
topaz blaze
In the back near the psu
magic wave
that's universally the exhaust end of a computer
topaz blaze
Ok
sturdy umbra
anyone got some recommended case fans 120mm 140mm that are decenly priced
topaz blaze
Lmao this is before i cleaned it yesterday
Looks like my life
Disgusting
This is after
That stack over there are my case fans
topaz blaze
anyone have experience getting air out of a aio pump?
burnt goblet
there should/might be a bleed valve for it
topaz blaze
aio @burnt goblet
azure crown
Your only opening in is through the cold plate
So if you want to pull air out, you need liquid to replace it with
novel helm
I need help
My friend is stupid and he keeps trying to plug his male connectors into the Mobo
@ with answer
regal plaza
Plug it into the female then @novel helm
novel helm
I told him that and he tells me there isn't any
I even sent him a pic of a female connector
He won't let me come over because he thinks he knows how to do everything and I don't know how to help him if he send me pics like this
burnt goblet
tell him to invite you over when he is willing to actually get help. and then just ignore questions until then.
novel helm
This man watchs one Linus vid and he thinks he know everything (not saying I know everything) but I've built a computer and worked with fans and he just refuses because he wants to be independent
burnt goblet
then as i said, let him be independent
low pumice
Until they need you
burnt goblet
and they agree to your terms
karmic orchid
covert hull
@karmic orchid focus g, mx330, nr600, and meshify c like oldegg said
and p400a
although the mx330 seems to have some QC issues
maiden delta
Also I think cooler master just made a td500 mesh version if you like rgb
maiden delta
I bought the non mesh version like a few months before it came out
Wow I just looked at it. Not only does it have a tempered glass side panel. It also has support for a 360mm aio on the top...
low pumice
coolermaster H500 is also nice
maiden delta
I think the mesh beats it now tbh
maiden delta
But the intake is a little restricting on them
Nvm I'm stupid you can put a mesh front panel on
maiden delta
🤷♂️ whoops
granite patrol
Is keeping the 2600x stock cooler a good idea?
vagrant mesa
hey guys how much better is water cooling than air cooling
chrome cedar
it's about the same unless you go custom
cold island
also linus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tay4Pz-PQDc
regal plaza
No @maiden delta, I think linus will
maiden delta
Sure not there's no chance
The odds are stacked against him
Linus has the high ground
regal plaza
Shut up dude, I believe in him
maiden delta
You can't beat high ground son
regal plaza
But linus is linus
maiden delta
So is linus tho
regal plaza
How could linus be beaten
regal plaza
No linus is the superior one
maiden delta
No your saying that linus is superior. I'm saying that Linus is superior.
See the difference?
Eh... agree to disagree
maiden delta
For sure
low pumice
aircooling has the high ground
maiden delta
Well of course it does its better
burnt goblet
depends on the context
maiden delta
Pretty sure aios have the high ground in most itx builds tho
calm dirge
Just started a R5 3600/GF1660 build. Debating on front fans vs AIO cooler. Also stock cooler v third party. Recommendations?
magic wave
GF...GF....Gluten Free?
tidal glen
n o
calm dirge
Ge... Force? 🧐
magic wave
Grain Field?
idle tiger
Buying gf 10 gp
tidal glen
what
leaden isle
Thoughts on air cooling vs water cooling?
Kinda new on pc building
Currently my cpu is on stock air cooling
I bought a corsair h100x but haven't put it in yet
magic wave
my cpu uses a cheap OEM cooler :)
leaden isle
are water coolers really beneficial
magic wave
that depends greatly
I think cheaper radiators are best avoided
higher quality radiators are plenty good for high thermal headroom
but you can get a high quality air cooler that meets the performance of the water cooler
or so I've read 👀
personally, I don't want to deal with water inside a computer
cold island
Air for budget-medium high end, water if you want best possible noise/performance at high end without going xoc
odd wigeon
When cooling a Ryzen 7 2700x should I go for a separate cooler or is the stock cooler enough? (gaming, recording and a little editing) If I do go for a separate cooler, which one should I get? (up to $75)
copper patrol
stock cooler is great
unless you plan on overclocking
which you shouldnt have to do
odd wigeon
Okay then, stock cooler it is
blazing roost
how can i get fringer prints off the fins of my NH d15s
burnt goblet
@blazing roost rubbing alcohol
simple willow
If you use a cheap radiator, make sure you get a thick one for the extra cooling. Otherwise, go with a copper core (expensive though).
idle tiger
Best to avoid aluminum rads or other water cooling parts - nickel, copper, brass all fine.
If mixing Al with other - take care to use an appropriate coolant/additive with suitable corrosion inhibitor.
supple jewel
Is having higher positive flow in a case bad?
I had an idea with 3 × 120mm fans(front panel) and 1 × 120mm fan (top panel closest slot to front panel) as intake and then have 2 × 120mm fans (top panel back end) and 1 × 120mm fan (back panel) making it so. I have 4 in 3 out. Is that necessarily bad?
clever berry
you want positive air pressure
supple jewel
My case is a cooler master td500 mesh for reference
clever berry
well if you're using the motherboard's fan controllers you can set 3 front as intake, 3 top and 1 back and exhaust, just use lower rpm/curve on the exhausts
supple jewel
Hmm, ok. Thank u very much
restive sandal
@supple jewel which country do you live in?
Because here in the US that case was delayed
supple jewel
I got the message it arrived the 25th
agile kraken
Is anyone able to help me with my water cooler issue?
regal plaza
@agile kraken ill try
agile kraken
As I said I have a water cooler and I’m used to it making bubbling noises and such but lately it’s been getting real obnoxious and loud. I was wondering if there’s anything wrong with it or if that’s normal.
regal plaza
Idk if thats normal in the first place
That means theres air bubbles in it I believe
Dont quote me, but idk if you can fix that
Is it aio or custom?
agile kraken
Aio
regal plaza
I dont totally know, but I think that means its not working correctly
Ask someone more knowledgeable like a techie
agile kraken
I’ll probably make a post on Reddit and see if someone can help. But thanks for trying.
regal plaza
@burnt goblet you know the answer?
burnt goblet
@agile kraken your water cooling, is it an AIO or a custom loop?
agile kraken
Aio
burnt goblet
how old is it?
agile kraken
Less than a year
burnt goblet
and the noise you are hearing, you are certain it is not fan related?
agile kraken
I’m pretty sure
burnt goblet
a quick way to check is to just "stop" the fans one by one.
just place a finger on the middle of the fan
NOT in the blade, but on the middle/core
agile kraken
Ok gimmie a sec
burnt goblet
no rush
agile kraken
Seems to have no effect
burnt goblet
on the noise?
agile kraken
No
burnt goblet
you mean "no, there is no effect"?
agile kraken
No, the only thing I got that controls anything related to the aio is a control for the RGB fans
burnt goblet
ok
okay, the following might be a bit tricky to do
you dont normally mess around inside your machine right?
agile kraken
I do
burnt goblet
shame
agile kraken
D:
burnt goblet
dust could make things easier here
next option then
unmount the radiator and tilt it back and forth, you should not, as such, hear the water sloshing around
but IF you can, there is a heck of a lot of air in there
which in an AIO (at that age) would seem to indicate a leak of somekind somewhere.
while that is annoying, at least you are under warranty
agile kraken
The problem with me doing that is that I don’t have any extra thermal paste when I reattach it
agile kraken
Ok
burnt goblet
there should be some slack in your cables for that
agile kraken
What kinda warranties usually come with water cooling?
agile kraken
Gimmie a moment while I do what you instructed
burnt goblet
no rush :)
burnt goblet
@agile kraken what is the sound like now?
agile kraken
Sounds normal now.
burnt goblet
hm
not what it expected to happen @agile kraken
because IF i expected this, i would have told you to just take the case and tilt around for a bit
viscid harbor
Is it normal for my back cooling fan to every once in a while Shut off for a second then turn back on?
maybe it is ran on a sensor that tells it to?
viscid harbor
yeah close to the back set of IO and above my graphics card
burnt goblet
normally those dont shut-off
you might want to check where exactly it is connected
as in, which specific fan header
viscid harbor
I thought that maybe it had a sensor that told it to shut off so it wouldn't overheat the motor or something\
i will check
burnt goblet
nah, the fans can run for years without a problem
viscid harbor
I found it the wire was loose at the back of the fan
viscid harbor
sry about bothering ya
burnt goblet
you are very welcome :)
idle tiger
Needed some more distilled water for the pc
https://i.imgur.com/afJjecK.jpg
idle tiger
No #heating channel 🤷♂️ https://gfycat.com/frightenedbravegemsbok
broken moss
Do AIO's cool both cpu and gpu?
burnt goblet
depends on the AIO @broken moss
chrome cedar
Most only do cpu
warm comet
@idle tiger Thats totally something people just have laying around 😄
idle tiger
6000 watt space heater 😆
river current
Hi I have a desktop i7 based machine and I need to replace the failing CPU cooling fan. Dimensions of the existing fan are are 3.5" by 1". I didn't find dimensions listed in the newegg product pages, are they all the same or am I missing where to find the product dimensions? Could anyone please help me select a cooling fan that will fit my machine? Thanks so much!
burnt goblet
@river current do you know more about the actual machine?
tidal glen
you don't just need a fit fan, you need one that'll actually get the job done
azure crown
did you make those coolers?
thats kinda odd for a server board
wait, i see they arent screwed down lol
nvm
idle tiger
Ya, it's a 1u board, H8QG+-F , fans are from HP MSA-70's.
Even with the 8 core chips, 4 140mm fans on top weren't enough.
Waterblocks soon maybe.
late zephyr
I was wondering if a Kraken X52 240mm is good enough for a Ryzen 9 3900x
kind apex
@late zephyr I would try to get 280mm at least
idle tiger
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3517-swiftech-h360x3-drive-review-benchmark
https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2019/coolers/swiftech-h360/1_noise-normalized-thermals_swiftech-h360x3-review.png
I like GN's cooler testing methodology.
They've made more improvements lately.
eternal flint
Who knows where I can get some coolers for an all in one PC that works well?
regal plaza
What cpu @eternal flint
eternal flint
Hmm
K series?
Does it exist for all in one pc anyways?
Like the i7-4790K
Any cooler for it on the All in One Desktop?
regal plaza
Idek if you can buy one for that socket
eternal flint
ok
just dm me the link if found some good cooler for LGA1150 socket
so it can handle so hot cpu
burnt goblet
@eternal flint you still planning to use the case etc from the All in one right?
if you are, then as have been said a number of times, you need the list of supported cpus from the vendor
burnt goblet
cooler alone does not solve anything
burnt goblet
A question for you @eternal flint
eternal flint
yes
burnt goblet
do you honestly think there is a way to get a 4790 to work in your machine?
burnt goblet
do you think that is all that is needed?
burnt goblet
i have told you a number of times, hence why i am asking you now
burnt goblet
yes
burnt goblet
you cannot manually configure "support"
burnt goblet
yes, i have read it, i did that when i showed you what cpu's it supports
burnt goblet
try that sentence again please.
eternal flint
I was thinking it was how the pc was when I buy it
it show which cpu was in use when I buy it
that is what I was thinking
burnt goblet
that is not what the manual is telling us
burnt goblet
the manual tells us what kind of range it supports
there is a very big difference from the celeron to the i3 it talks about
burnt goblet
you are not being any kind of trouble
i am just trying to prevent you from buying/doing something that will lead you to a bad experience.
burnt goblet
over the last 25-ish years of building machines? yes
burnt goblet
that is your best bet
burnt goblet
however, as i mentioned earlier today: What you will most likely hear from them is this: please buy a new machine
burnt goblet
its also called: we dont support this model anymore
eternal flint
yeah
burnt goblet
because it is 5+generations old
burnt goblet
because they can
eternal flint
makes no sense
burnt goblet
it is not supposed to
eternal flint
out of support but still have warranty
jagged drift
Is anyone here know a lot about like custom liquid cooling loops
i need a liquid cooling loop for under 600$
i was gonna use a distro plate but i was wondering if using of a distro plate how do you drain it???
magic sparrow
Getting something from Bykski or Barrow allows for a full loop for about $250
idle tiger
Same as with any other loop - include a drainage ball valve at a low point.
tall viper
Hello guys
river gorge
tall viper
so as of right now i have a front mounted aio and an open shroud gpu with all the pc fans exhausting outside
The system is hotter than usual now
ive been thinking of changing the fans arrangement to intake the air inside and exhaust from the radiator
if anyone could help it would be wonderful :D
river gorge
send a picture of your current setup
river gorge
can you make it unterrible lol
but basically you have all your fans as exhaust?
you'll need some sort of intake, typically radiators
so the front rads sucking cool air in, and the back/top as exhaust pulling the heat out
tall viper
Ah alright i'll that then
wait,
can i make it so that the air exhaust out from the radiator?
All the fans intake and exhaust through the rad
river gorge
you want cool air passing through the radiator
tall viper
hmm
river gorge
if warm/hot air is passing over the radiator, your cpu temps will be high
through* not over :\
jagged drift
what is a good black and white fan?? Something kinda like the Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap but cheaper
safe flicker
Anyone know of a quiet cpu fan, I currently just use the stock fan that came with my 2700x
It’s the loudest thing in my case
kind apex
@safe flicker majority of Noctua fans excluding the industrial ones
safe flicker
Thanks, I’ll give those a look
idle tiger
Not sure if it'll help much to just swap out the fan on the wraith prism - I'd replace the cooler with something like a gammax400, scythe ninja, or noctua d15 depending on your budget.
Remember a high end air cooler could last a decade, $80 doesn't sound expensive anymore.
jagged drift
hey im going to build my first hard line tube pc build and i was wondering about how many fittings you will need?
idle tiger
It'll always be >=20% more than you plan to need 🙃
low pumice
(things happen, better to have extra then not enough)
idle tiger
Buy your water loop fittings at Home Depot
jagged drift
does anyone know anything about a coolant that is semi opaque but also has like texture on the inside. I want something like what was used in this video. the one in this video was never created. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPkHxfL0yAQ&t=532s
a good view of the coolant is at 8:16
vagrant mesa
how much better is water coolling than air coolling
low pumice
Custom watercooling or AIO
low pumice
buying one thing, or buying a pump, a res, a cpu block, and tubing.
low pumice
so AIO.
sometimes air cooling is even better
but sometimes liquid cooling can be better
vagrant mesa
i was thinking of getting a be quiet dark pro 4
but thought aio would be better for a r7 3700x
low pumice
try to get this if you can
https://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Cooler-Patented-Corrugated-Design/dp/B084ZWZXKX/
vagrant mesa
?
low pumice
can you even get an AIO at that price? xD
vagrant mesa
nope lawl
vagrant mesa
but is there much of a difference
low pumice
idk pricing in germany
low pumice
Okay dark rock pro 4 looks good
vagrant mesa
yup
low pumice
yea
vagrant mesa
i think it was around 70 euros
low pumice
its 73 euros
vagrant mesa
nice
river aspen
Not sure if there is much interest in this type of thing here but here is my cpu cooler
idle tiger
If you build it, they will come
topaz blaze
I have a z390 taichi, 9900k and the heatkiller iv cpu block. Will it all go together without sanding and messing with the cpu block eg screws etc if i got the 9th gen oc frame by der8auer? Cant find this info out anywhere and wanted to know
dreamy jolt
Hey. I'm having a little bit of a hard time understanding intake and outtake for my AIO fans. In this picture would my fan be sucking air into the case of blowing it out?
I hope you can tell from the picture
magic wave
which way does it spin?
dreamy jolt
I can't remember what way it goes when powered cos I'm crummy like that but when I spray it with compressed air it goes anti clockwise
So I'd assume it would be the same thing
magic wave
looking at the end of the fan blades, which way does the blade scoop?
river gorge
doesn't matter which way it spins
the way that picture is
it's pushing air up
remember the side with bracket will pull out
the fan blade side will suck in
magic wave
ok then it's in the right orientation
river gorge
always
magic wave
looking at my spare fan, yeah :p
dreamy jolt
I tried to look online for information but the things I was finding was confusing me so came here to seek help 😂😂
I was wanting it to be outtake but wanted to make sure it's definitely doing that
river gorge
I mean it does matter which way it spins, but all fans are made the same 😛
spinning wise.
dreamy jolt
So these fans will be on outtake then yes? In that position
river gorge
also if you look on the side, there should be arrows.
yes
the way that is setup is an exhaust
dreamy jolt
No because these aren't case fans. My case fans have arrows but these are the ones that came with the AIO and don't have arrows
I did check for that
river gorge
if you flip it around, it'll suck air in
dreamy jolt
Ok thanks
modern crater
For anyone versed in water-cooling, I've heard distilled water is the way to go for coolant because of the lack of minerals and such. I have distilled water here (smartwater) but it says that it has electrolytes and it has balanced pH. Is this fine to use to flush my radiator
And to use as 12+ hours of leak test with primo chill sys prep
I would then drain it after and replace with mayhems pastel
idle tiger
No, you'll want to use distilled water free from added minerals.
Something like smart water, any other bottled water is usually RO filter municipal water with some calcium and magnesium salts added back in to make it taste good - around 30 ppm.
Distilled / DI water should be 0, maybe 1 ppm.
I'd either buy a purpose made pre-mix coolant or buy some concentrate like EK cryofuel and add that to distilled water.
wanton sparrow
Continuing the conversation of my high cpu temps from the general chat...
low pumice
Yea
wanton sparrow
I'm trying to understand what temperatures are normal for my setup... especially at full load
I don't think 97C is normal for my air cooler by any means
idle tiger
What motherboard / agesa version? Have you changed any of the bios settings or used ryzen master?
wanton sparrow
specs = Ryzen 9 3900X CPU, Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 CPU Cooler (only one fan attached and in use), Asus Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) Mobo, Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Super AO 8G GPU, G.Skill TridentZ 32GB DDR4 3600MHz 16-16-16-36 Memory, Corsair Force MP600 M.2 1TB PCI-E Gen 4.0 Storage, Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SATA III SSD Storage, Seasonic Focus PX-850 850 W 80+ Platinum PSU, Fractal Design Define C TG ATX Case, Noctua NT-H2 Thermal Compound, (x5)Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Fans, (x2)Noctua NF-A14 PWM Fans, (x2)Noctua NA-FC1 Fan Controllers
bios version 1302
yes i've used ryzen master
idle tiger
Why run a manual all core 4.2?
wanton sparrow
I honestly don't have a good answer to that outside of the fact that it was stable in benchmarking programs
i put it on manual to force the voltage down to 1.3
idle tiger
I mean, you can - but you're overriding a lot of the chip's internal clock/power/temperature monitoring and control.
idle tiger
Nothing wrong with that as long you leave things all stock - or very careful configure things.
You can see up to 1.5v
I wouldn't set any manual voltage past 1.325 v - that's the community consensus based on FIT data
wanton sparrow
then my question is, how can I limit my voltage down to a safe level (amd says that is 1.325 for 3900x) while also letting my cpu decide its own clock speeds
i'm happy we agree on that voltage yea
idle tiger
The chip will limit itself as necessary as long as it's left to it's own devices.
If you do enable pbo - many people see better results with a 100mv offset.
@warm comet Might know better.
wanton sparrow
what would you recommend I try and do next?
idle tiger
Try the default profile in ryzen master
wanton sparrow
even with the high voltage?
idle tiger
It should lower voltage appropriately as it sees higher load
Do you know what version of agesa your bios has?
low pumice
I'm also on a d15, everything default/stock, reaching near 90c during stress test.
warm comet
you should not be seeing constant voltage that high. it should only go that high for short periods of time
3000 series should max around 1.5, older will go up to around 1.55
wanton sparrow
i do not know what version of agesa, how do i check that?
low pumice
Mine is averaging 1.25v, still 89c tho.
idle tiger
Ya, it's probably pulling 70+ watts on a single ccx
warm comet
but should drop down after no more than maybe 10 seconds to something under 1.3 unless you have messed with LLC
low pumice
(pulling ~96w according to ryzen master)
wanton sparrow
@warm comet so you would recommend that I run my pc back in the stock mode with the higher voltage limit?
low pumice
Actually, @idle tiger do you know what temps would be considered normal?
wanton sparrow
for reference the only settings i have touched were the peak core voltage and the clock speeds
river gorge
anything under -0 c is normal for Forks
wanton sparrow
you running F@H rn?
low pumice
prime95
river gorge
stop hurting your cpu 😦
idle tiger
I don't fold on my cpu's - GPU gets a lot more work done,
low pumice
because I want to figure out if its inadequate cooling
F@H takes a while to gimme WUs so
wanton sparrow
gotcha
idle tiger
Ya - I'd say 142 watts confined to as tiny of a chip as a zen2 8 core ccx - <90C sounds pretty good
If you look at a die shot of a zen 2 cpu - all 8 of those cores are in the same square area of like 3-4 9900k cores
low pumice
Wait, so it's normal?
merry crown
F@H is one of the only good things to use if you are in Xfire/SLI
idle tiger
@low pumice Yours seems to be
warm comet
As long as your cpu is idling at a normal idle level like .7v or so that is much better for your cpu in the long run than leaving it at 1.3 or 1.4 all the time. short periods of time at higher voltage is ok.
if your cpu is running a constant 1.5v then you have other issues
low pumice
Alright, I was expecting like 60c max load bc thats how GPU temps usually go
damn
I only set constant voltage and constant clocks when I'm benchmarking for scores :p
idle tiger
^ same
wanton sparrow
I'm basically at idle right now and I have high voltages @warm comet
low pumice
When benchmarking for scores, what would be a high max voltage?
I limit myself to under 1.4
(on air)
idle tiger
I wouldn't set a manual , all core fixed voltage higher than 1.325
low pumice
interesting
I should prob lower voltages whenever I OC then
lemme just test out how high freq I can get with 1.325v
idle tiger
Other than benchmarknig or something
https://hwbot.org/submission/4250876_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_ryzen_7_3700x_16.646_fps
I don't think there's much benefit to any OC on zen2
