#old-cooling

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river gorge
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😛

daring pivot
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that's why i said negligible

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because in the real world there is no difference

river gorge
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its not really.

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😄

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but

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duaaaaaaaaal

daring pivot
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i will give it this

river gorge
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so better than singlee.

daring pivot
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it looks better with the 2 sticks together

river gorge
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truth

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if only I had that aorus ram kit

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with two dummy sticks

daring pivot
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it's only $170

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just do it

shut rock
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i like how u say only 170

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if its only 17p

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170

daring pivot
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cries in poverty

shut rock
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yep

potent cedar
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check out before it ends

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ddr4 rams for 18 bucks

copper patrol
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@potent cedar try not to swear pls lol

potent cedar
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It's not like I'm insulting someone? 🤔

copper patrol
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i get you but its in the rules channel

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ive seen people get banned for it before

potent cedar
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Oh, I see, didn't see it tbh

copper patrol
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no problem 🙃 now you know

cold island
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what kinda layout is best for fans? 2 in the front are included, and going to get 2 more.
possible spots
front - 2 (included)
top - 2
bottom - 1
rear - 1

daring pivot
wild wagon
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Anyone has a good suggestion for liquid cooler at the size of 120mm?

copper patrol
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you got a budget>

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?*

wild wagon
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Below 100 will be good but I should be able to handle 150

copper patrol
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perfect

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theres also this one if you want it to look a bit nicer

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its a bit more expensive but it looks better imo

wild wagon
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Thank u so much

copper patrol
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sure

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just fyi you wont really be able to overclock that much on a 120mm rad

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if youre doing overclocking and stuff get at least a 2 fan rad

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but if youre doing a sff pc build and wanna save space with a good cooler, those links i posted will work great

wild wagon
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I just needed replace the liquid cooler with the one I have rn because the fan that I bought with the pc is really bad it’s mainly for gaming so I don’t think it will over clock

copper patrol
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ah ok

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perfect

wild wagon
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Just gotta find a way to do it with out my destroying my pc I got this lol

copper patrol
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lol

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good luck

wild wagon
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👍

modest prism
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Hey guys I’m think about a 2080ti and I’m also wondering if I need to get a specific cooler for the gpu because I’m planning to ray trace

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Also, any good coolers

clever berry
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Most thick gpu with triple fan will be fine

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For 2080ti

modest prism
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Ok

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Even if I need to ray trace?

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!rank

unique lilyBOT
modest prism
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I suck lmao

proper hollow
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If it doesn’t get as many frames as you want just turn up your fan curve, increase power and you might not need to overclock since Nvidia cards overclock themselves

rocky dragon
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I have a great cooling systems

cold island
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**the power of the bean **

proper hollow
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Do you take that to the movies?

feral patrol
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what?

daring pivot
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how do you not know

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about the beans at the movie theater meme

feral patrol
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oh my god

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how could i not remember

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f me im dumb lmaooo

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forgot about that dumb thing

daring pivot
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:D

supple scarab
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does the company for fans matter or not really?

dusty anchor
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ide say if it fits it sits

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I always check reviews first

supple scarab
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I see difference of 2-3x the pric bewteen products

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price*

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corsair deepcool or coolermaster for that matter

dusty anchor
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of course price is a factor

river gorge
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not

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decibels are a factor

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😄

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all about that cubic feet per hour.

dusty anchor
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then use the bequiet fans

noble cypress
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Can anyone can tell me which is the best AIO for pc pc? I am trying to save my money and my budget is $500?

copper patrol
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you can get a verrryyy good aio for $500

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you dont even need to go that high at all

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500 is a good budget for a custom loop

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alright before i can recommend any aios, i gotta know what processor you have and if youre overclocking it

noble cypress
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Yes and I dont know which is the best AIO for tracking temp, display and flow currents?

copper patrol
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uh

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i didnt even know you could track that stuff

noble cypress
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Oh I mean like ASUS ROG Ryujin AIO, ASUS ROG Ryuo AIO or corsair?

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I have a i7 9900k cpu and Intel Z390 motherboard and EVGA 2070 GPU

river gorge
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your entire pc budget is 500?

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or 500 for the cooling?

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and what currency is this 500.

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EVGA CLCs has flow control sensor.

noble cypress
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I mean less $500 For AIO. I have a PowerSpec G353 from micro center

river gorge
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USD?

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500 dollars is custom loop build pricing : D

copper patrol
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aha

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i was right

noble cypress
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No, not enough room

river gorge
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if you want the best, I'd say go for AlphaCool

copper patrol
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yeah i get that we are just saying 500 is what you should be paying if you were to do a custom loop

river gorge
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EISBAER 240

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it's refillable, and expandable

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so you could loop both cpu and gpu.

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or even with EKWBs Phoenix series.

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the EK-MLC

noble cypress
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Can you send me link?

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This is what I have

river gorge
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You caan buy them prefilled, and it's literally snap together

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show me with side panel off.

noble cypress
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Hold on

river gorge
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I mean do you want your gpu cooled? or just the cpu?

noble cypress
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Just cpu cooling aio from cheap cooling master

river gorge
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hmm ok you might could fight a 240mm aio in the front.

noble cypress
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Yes

river gorge
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maybe even a 280, but I would need the case.

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to make sure

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aio tubes might be a bit stretched tho

noble cypress
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This is what I have

river gorge
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oh you has x2 120mm at the top

noble cypress
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Yes

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All I can think is that ASUS ROG Ryuo 240

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Might fit in my case?

river gorge
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oh yeah def.

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top mount the radiator

noble cypress
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Yes

river gorge
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ThermalTake makes really nice AIOs aswell

noble cypress
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Yes and I have thermaltake view 91 case for future of my plan

river gorge
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I think they have longer tubing

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might can get @plush wren to verify if it could fit front mounted in your case.

noble cypress
river gorge
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that looks like shorter tubing.

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@clever berry

noble cypress
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I have a corsair L120 rgb fan

river gorge
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that oled display though is sick

noble cypress
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What wrong with it?

river gorge
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you could def top mount it, have it suck air in.

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sick as in awesome.

noble cypress
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Cool and cheap that ASUS ROG RYUJIN

plush wren
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@noble cypress @river gorge The Floe AIOs have about 12 inches of tube length. Since you're going with the View 91, your best bet would be going with soft tubes. You can find those in the Water 3.0 ARGB series.

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Also, the 360mm rads have a slightly longer length than the 240mm aios

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but do keep in mind that the View 91 case was made with custom liquid cooling in mind 😉

river gorge
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noble cypress
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The problem is that the 91 is that I am going to save my money to spend around $10,000 for full custom water loop for 2020 complexes computer design show.

noble cypress
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So I made a design this my thermaltake view 91 case plan

river gorge
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neat!

noble cypress
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Thx

worldly heath
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You're going to spend $10,000 on just a water loop?

feral patrol
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h0t

river gorge
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What's wrong with that fps_noob.

dim mist
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I mean it is a bit pricey, but if the guy wants to spend his money on it then so be it

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although "a bit" is an understatement if you ask me

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Also I came to ask about some advice on getting a CPU water cooler

river gorge
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if it's for a 2020 complexes computer design show, sometimes money is no limit.

dim mist
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I guess so. I'm unfamiliar with the show, so I can't say if it's worth-while

river gorge
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never heard of it either, but imagine it's like any other computex stuff.

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show off the most bling.

dim mist
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Right

river gorge
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all I can say is.. it must be nice 😄

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but what kinda question do you have about cooling?

dim mist
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I've bought some fan's from the company before and they've worked great so far

river gorge
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That is neat, kinda weird placement for the pump though.

dim mist
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but I haven't water-cooler a system before, and I'm a touch paranoid if the pump would leak y'know

river gorge
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I wouldn't worry to much about leaking.

dim mist
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Ah alright

river gorge
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they are built really well, can't say that about Raijintek cause I've never owned own.

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but corsair, evga and thermaltake make excellent AIOs

dim mist
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but in a scenario if it would, is there a coolant that doesn't conduct electricity, or is that a marketing term companies throw around?

river gorge
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no you are correct.

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non conductive liquid.

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you'd have to go through great lengths and man handling them to cause a leak.

dim mist
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guess I'm that paranoid. lol

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I think I'll take your word for it and trust the product

river gorge
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I was to at first.

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but once I installed one, (corsairs h55)

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I fell in love.

dim mist
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Right

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So why'd you get your pump

river gorge
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love temps, and quiet.

dim mist
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ah ok

river gorge
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I have since Graduated to a full custom loop. 😛

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but the other 3 computers here, my wife and both kids have AIO set ups.

dim mist
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Now I don't think I could do a custom loop

river gorge
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I didn't either! but seeing so many pictures, and youtube videos of them.

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EKWB makes a "fluid gaming kit"

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that has everything you need.

dim mist
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I'll keep that in mind

river gorge
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but for now I would suggest Thermaltakes AIO

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or that Rajintek

dim mist
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For now, I'll stick with the Rajintek pump

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I was gonna get it for the Ryzen 3 launch

river gorge
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eeeeeep so excited for that.

dim mist
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ikr

river gorge
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I'm strung out on whether to get the new cpu, or gpu.

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I have first gen ryzen right now.

dim mist
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Oh nice

river gorge
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been waiting forever for NAVI

dim mist
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what cpu?

river gorge
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the Ryzen 5 1600.

dim mist
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Oh that's not a bad one

river gorge
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then I have a pny 1080FE.

dim mist
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oh yeah

river gorge
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so getting the NAVI

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would just seem better paired.

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so I dunno, I keep going back and fourth lol

dim mist
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I guess. Personally I'd probably get a processor

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The 1080 ism still a good card, even in the current landscape

river gorge
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yeah. both my cpu/gpu are on the same water loop.

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so upgrading cpu would be easier

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gpu I'd have to cancel out the water loop and re run stuff.

dim mist
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Definitely

river gorge
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unless I got a water block too... but ugh.

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more $$.

dim mist
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Plus you'd probably have to buy a new plate for the card

river gorge
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yep 😛

dim mist
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Navi is nice, but I'm gonna try and get a Radeon VII because it benefits me more

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16GB of relatively affordable VRAM y'know.

river gorge
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for sure

dim mist
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But I hear it still has some whack cooling

river gorge
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yeah

dim mist
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I even contemplated doing a whole custom loop for it because of it.

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However, I think I'll just do a custom fan curve in Wattman to balance things out

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and I've heard recent drivers have made the card far better to use

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Now here's one more question I should ask: Should I mount the radiator on the front, or the top of my case?

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I ask because I don't know if there's benefits to doing either.

river gorge
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depends on case.

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got a picture?

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current setup that is.

dim mist
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1 sec

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I apologize in advance for garbage image quality

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OK the camera quality of that shot can burn

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This one is better compared to the other photo that will not be seen

river gorge
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I'd go with front panel mount, sucking air in.

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would be good flow for the rest of the case.

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with the 3 exhaust

dim mist
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Alright that'sa relief

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for a second, I was thinking I'd had to unmount some fans

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my fans

river gorge
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buuuuuuuut

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if the length of the tubing is an issue.

dim mist
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Oh no

river gorge
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you may want to top mount it 😛

dim mist
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that's no issue

river gorge
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yeah

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then you could move those two top fans to the front panel for intake

dim mist
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I was looking into the cooler more and the tubes are 15' (35ish cm)

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So it wouldn't be an issue to reach it from the front

river gorge
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sweet

dim mist
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On a side note, who custom loops their RAM?

river gorge
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silly people.

dim mist
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Like I still don't understand the purpose to it

river gorge
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oh I agree.

dim mist
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At least it's better than a custom looped PSU\

river gorge
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unless it's that XPG ram that has the water heatshield

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that ram is pretty OP.

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4k mhz or something silly

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I think it is called Jellyfish

river gorge
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yes

dim mist
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Yeah I'll admit, it does look pretty good.

fiery patrol
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Hey guys I’m just wondering if anybody knows how viable it would be to custom loop in an nzxt h500i as that’s what I plan to do but don’t know if I need to switch my case

river gorge
topaz blaze
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I had a question, the name is ironic but anyways, I’m hearing a loud rattling noise that like 20% of the time leads to cracking or popping, I expect it to be one of my front panel fans, but I’m not actually positive, it spins really fast, then while it’s spinning/right before it just stops spinning all together it makes that rattling noise. I don’t have money to replace a new fan, so should I just ignore the sound, or disconnect that single fan?

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you could try to oil the bearing

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Do you think it would be dangerous to just leave it alone? Honestly I’m still not even sure if the noise is actually the fan, but due to how it runs and what it does when I can hear the noise it’s my greatest assumption.

river gorge
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disconnect the fan.

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if you still hear the noise, then you can plug it back in.

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if something is burning out, I wouldn't leave it plugged into any power source.

topaz blaze
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i didnt plug it out but the exact fan i assumed it was stopped moving all together
and theres no noise

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i think it is dead

autumn depot
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excuese me but i am looking for a cooler for my CPU and im not to sure what to get.I Dont plan on doing overclocking I just want something to cool my Ryzen 2600x well

river gorge
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stock cooler should be plenty

topaz blaze
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the stock cooler could do the trick. if you want something a bit more capable, you could do what i did and pick up an old wraith FX cooler with heatpipes from fleabay. it does a well job on my 2600

river gorge
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^5 JD.

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lol

autumn depot
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ok thanks

silk lake
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will trident z rgb memory fit under the noctua nh-d15 ? i know it's a beefy heatsink

daring pivot
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i'm researching that for you

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it would not

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the ram is 44mm

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and the ram clearance on the D15 is 32mm

silk lake
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now the real quiestion... rgb or performance? haha

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thank you

feral patrol
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both

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tho performance obv better lol

copper patrol
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wait im pretty sure the ram clearance is 64 if you take off the fan thats closest to the ram

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i could be thinking about the wrong cooler

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but i think thats a possibility

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but that sacrifices cooling capability

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also why get rgb ram if the coolers gonna cover it lol

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honestly i think the dh15 is such an attention drawer that looks are kinda outta the picture

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but its your choice

dim mist
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Well I ended up putting that water-cooler in my system

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looks pretty good and made my temps pretty low

river gorge
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nice!

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which one did you end up getting.

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pictures!

dim mist
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The Rajintek one that I was talking to you yesterday about

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alright give me a minute for pics

river gorge
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oh nice

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see it's not that scary, is it? 😄

dim mist
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Not as mcu has I though yeah

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it ended up dropping my processor heat by 30 degrees under load

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I was a bit suprised ngl

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I was expecting something like 20

river gorge
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😃

copper patrol
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i got a question: so some people say if youre using water cooling over a long period of time the liquid heats up and becomes less effective; is this true?

river gorge
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not true.

copper patrol
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👀

river gorge
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well

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by a few degrees maybe.

copper patrol
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but not enough to impact performance, right?

river gorge
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I've ran ark, a very demanding game both cpu and gpu. and my temps stay solid around 55 to 58c.

copper patrol
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nice

river gorge
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regardless if I run it for 8 hours, or 1.

copper patrol
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nice

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well i never use my computer for longer than that so i should be fine

river gorge
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yeah

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it's nothing to really worry about.

copper patrol
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ok

dim mist
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Best pic I managed to get

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just give it a moment to upload

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There we go

copper patrol
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sometimes when the build pics look too good to be true i search google images for it lol

dim mist
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lol

copper patrol
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but im on mobile so its to hard to do that rn

dim mist
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right

topaz blaze
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which cooler is this exactly?

dim mist
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That's a Rajintek 240 Orcus

topaz blaze
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oh, yeah i know this one. enermax and couple others kinda copied their design. not a bad AIO at all

river gorge
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Very nice @dim mist

topaz blaze
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got a lot of custom parts but keeping it simple 🙂

dim mist
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Nice nice

river gorge
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I like swiftech

topaz blaze
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yeah not bad

river gorge
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my gpu is swiftech

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gpu block*

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the komodo

topaz blaze
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the GPU and CPU blocks i got are from aqua and EK

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i have a swiftech CPU block but it's an ancient apogee i bought second hand

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their D5 is gud though

river gorge
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Yeah

topaz blaze
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is it a 1080? that comodo looks well

river gorge
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yeah 1080.

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picked it up for 40 bucks on ebay

topaz blaze
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Ti is a bit toasty but i had some gaming X 1080s that had good temps

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WC is indeed a different joy however

river gorge
dim mist
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oh neat

topaz blaze
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yeah, such a plexi top tho.

dim mist
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I am still unsure if I even want to attempt doing something like that with my GPU

river gorge
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it's really easy. first time is always scary lol

topaz blaze
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you could go pre-filled like boX spoke earlier about, with EK-MLC

river gorge
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I think they meant dismantling.

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but yeah those pre-filled are e z p z.

topaz blaze
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yup i had couple

river gorge
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I love the concept.

topaz blaze
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QDC are bit restricting although i'm not sure by how much, would be cool to see results with a flow meter or direct temps

river gorge
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I wish I could afford those QC fittings

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yeah

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would make taking my gpu out a breeze.

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or even the cpu.

topaz blaze
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bitspower compressions without the asian wording on though.. the old ones. best fittings ever

river gorge
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only because I don't have a drain port.

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I've drained it once already, enough wiggle room to tip my pump/res over and empty that way

topaz blaze
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EK should re-do those again, with a new line

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the phoenix aren't bad but are a downgrade in terms of having more plastic over nickel like on the predator

river gorge
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yeah predator was awesome.

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I still have one.

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just sitting, collecting dust

topaz blaze
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had some leaking issues with rev 1.0

river gorge
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yeah

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I got them to send me the revised verison

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had contacted them, some guy I talked to via email ran around looking for one in the warehouse cause it was EOL.

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happened to ffind one and shipped it to me free of charge.

topaz blaze
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nice, mine leaked after customizing it, luckily not over anything

river gorge
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the predator I got was from a giveaway I won, was the ekwb/msi 1080 30th edition

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worst prize I ever got.

topaz blaze
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hey it's a neat cooler if you exclude that issue..

river gorge
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thing came in its own custom wooden crate. and when I opened it, it had leaked.

topaz blaze
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oh.

river gorge
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whoever made it, over tightened every screw, so the plastic on the res cracked.

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so I contacted MSI and was like wtf.. I know this was a giveaway.. but how am I suppose to use this?

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sent them detailed pictures of all of it

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and they're like ok... you go ahead and just keep that... we will send you a msi 1080ti duke cool?

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after picking jaw off the floor I said deal.

topaz blaze
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you can change the pump on the predator with a MCP355 btw, i did so after some time

river gorge
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ended up getting that res from ek, had two working cards :p

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then 3 months later the 1080 died.

dim mist
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yIKES

river gorge
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bad vram

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yeah, was such an awesome rig too. I hated that I had so much trouble with it

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but when it worked, damn it was pretty

topaz blaze
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is that it? just the thick 120 cooling it? looks a bit meh

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i bought the 360 with QDC

river gorge
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it kept it at 27c

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when I was playing WoW at the time

topaz blaze
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yeah it's just the 1080 so makes sense

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similar to my V64 LC

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just doesn't look as beasty as a 360 going into a card

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temps aren't water cooling level low on my duke 2080 but still doesn't exceed about 55C load, so i'm fine. maybe next gen.

lunar fossil
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besides being newer, how are the temps on the nd h15 vs nd h14 from noctua

copper patrol
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probably better

stuck owl
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I just recently started gaming on a desktop, i've always had a laptop that I played games on and never really monitored the temp. I would like to make sure I keep this one in good condition. Does anyone know what the easiest way to check cpu/gpu temperatures while gaming are.

grave laurel
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Depending on what your mobo is and if you have a watercooler installed, there are various things you can use to monitor the temperature, just look it up on google.

topaz blaze
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he wants to have it monitored in-game so i might suggest rivatuner statistics

grave laurel
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Doesn't rivatuner act like spyware and cause some performance loss?

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I'm not big on rivatuner.

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I guess it works if you're not crazy about frames.

topaz blaze
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um no, not really..

daring pivot
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rivatuner works fine with no performance overhead or degredation

grave laurel
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Really?

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I got lied to.

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Can someone send me a link to rivatuner?

topaz blaze
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you can install the rivatuner statistics server next to MSI AB

grave laurel
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I don't use any MSI hardware I don't think.

topaz blaze
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you can still use afterburner though

grave laurel
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I can't just use rivatuner?

topaz blaze
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you can

graceful vigil
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also, HWInfo64 works very well and has more info than you probably need, but you customize the sensor tracking and what the UI window will show

river gorge
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I use Argus Monitor

pine basin
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General question for opinions here, which company makes the best mid-range (so excluding things like the Lighting, Kingpin, etc) graphics card cooling solution for atx form factor?

copper patrol
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thermaltake good

pine basin
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Huh. Probably shoulda specified that I was talking about GPUS....thanks for noticing that

copper patrol
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oops

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well

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ek water blocks

daring pivot
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EVGA's ACX coolers are great

wanton sparrow
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So if I'm going overkill by putting a noctua nh-d15s on my CPU, would it be a good idea to have a different cooling solution for the gpu, which will likely be a 2070 or 2080, than the stock card?

pine basin
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What form factor are you running?

wanton sparrow
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Likely micro atx. I'm trying to achieve maximum cooling effect regardless of sound; just wanted to clarify that.

pine basin
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Then tape this bad boy to your system

wanton sparrow
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LOL

pine basin
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It would probably kinda sorta work

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If you care about max cooling performance, then you could probs modify your gpu shroud and replace stock fans with some Noctuas™

wanton sparrow
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I kinda want to try connecting my next build to my home ac unit and just blast the system with that thing for a solid day to see what it does.

pine basin
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OwO

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I'll be awaiting your results

wanton sparrow
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Yeet, it's going to happen now.

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When you say modify the gpu shroud, how complicated of a process is that?

pine basin
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Kinda depends on how nice you want it to look, and what brand your card is

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But it doesn't seem too difficult, although you might want to tripple check your warranty

wanton sparrow
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Yes, the warranty is a likely a concern with doing that. But needless to say, I'm interested in modifying those fans

pine basin
#

But afaik, it's just a matter of pulling the stock fans out, and plugging in Noctuas in the header, YouTube is definitely gonna do a better job than I would actually showing you how to do that

wanton sparrow
#

Lol if I do that, my next build would literally have 12 noctuas in it. Just in a micro atx case

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Owo

pine basin
#

N I c e

wanton sparrow
#

it's a bit overkill but f it

topaz blaze
#

What’s a good cpu cooler under $80

cosmic steppe
#

cryorig h7

fallen tartan
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Hyper 212 eco

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Evo

native sapphire
#

Will a watercooling pump and resoviour work laying down flat?

river gorge
#

i've seen pump/res combo horizontal . they have to be filled 100% though.

#

I need more coffee lol.

#

heck you could mount them upside if you wanted to. I wouldn't suggest it.

fresh flume
#

I got my noctua NH-U14s for like 70 bucks on amazon, it is absolutely amzaing

daring pivot
#

the U14S is fantastic

muted lintel
#

Anyone know if Gamdias is a good brand? Can't find many reviews on their coolers

graceful vigil
#

meh

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I had one of their mech keyboards...it's chinese generic, basically

#

didn't even know they were producing coolers

river gorge
#

I believe @modern pebble has a Gamdias

modern pebble
#

I do! It dose its job as an AIO cooler, BUT... my RGB lights crapped out 6 after owning it 😦

worldly heath
#

so I delided my 8700k, and put a copper heat spreader on it, and man did that make a big difference

muted lintel
#

@modern pebble Mike thats good, was it a m1A 240R?

#

This my first time with liquid cooling!

modern pebble
#

Close! I have the P1A-360R

muted lintel
#

That's pretty cool! I am a little afraid of the fittings not lasting, and I cant get in contact with support to ask if they will cover my build if their product damages it like other makers would

muted lintel
#

@modern pebble Do you have any suggestions?

topaz blaze
#

what toolkit would be the best for taking off a gpu cooler from NVIDIA?

polar vector
#

Hey, I want to ask about fan cooling. Compare to ball bearing fan, is there any rbg fan that can match them? Any suggestions?

topaz blaze
#

what thermal pads do you guys recommend?

daring pivot
rugged shadow
#

ARTIC ones arent bad either

topaz blaze
#

im talking about for gpus

muted lintel
#

Hey is a fan with 41 CFM good enough for usage with a liquid cooler?

alpine grotto
#

Well your largest cases have 2-5 MAX...CF. so at 41 CFM you will push the air 10-20xs per min... not the highest fan available but depending on outside conditions: air flow in, air flow out, case surrounded by crap... And fan placement will determine a lot.

#

Rumor is Static fans are best for coolers.. but that was from 1 report I browsed thru... so not sure if anyone else has an opinion on that

wanton sparrow
#

Are M.2 heatsinks just a fad or is it something worthwhile to add to a new build?

copper patrol
#

some mobos come with them 👀

wanton sparrow
#

Would you expect the x570 mobos to have them?

copper patrol
#

maybe

daring pivot
#

depends 100% on the motherboard

#

some do, some don't

#

it's generally higher end boards that do

copper patrol
#

yeah

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and they usually include like 1

daring pivot
#

unless there's a full board face plate

#

but that's on expensive boards

copper patrol
#

yeah

#

some m.2 ssds have them too

#

like not just on the mobo

daring pivot
#

yeah

copper patrol
#

look at server banner in this discord server lol

#

that one is fancy

#

rgb and stuff

wanton sparrow
#

But does a heat sink for an M.2 drive really make a big performance difference? If it helps with thermals I'd be interested in it, but otherwise I feel like it might be a hassle to find a decent one that properly fits the drive I'm looking at getting

copper patrol
#

it doesn't not help

daring pivot
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honestly

#

if an M.2 SSD really needs a heatsink, it comes with one

#

it can help mitigate potential slow down due to heat, but it's not necessary

wanton sparrow
#

Okay cool; thanks for the help

manic garden
#

Whats like the thinnest cooling fan you guys ever seen

wanton sparrow
#

Not that it's thin, but I love the look of the 200mm noctua fans; the proportions are soooo nice

rugged shadow
#

laptop fans are pretty thin

muted lintel
#

@tazman1982, yeah I have a roswell case, has great air flow out of the back and up top with small vents on the front. Looking at about 4 fans plus 2 more on my radiator. Was hoping I could match the case fans by putting it on my radiator but if 41 cfm at about 900-1800 rpms ant enough I just wont take that chance.

alpine grotto
#

I personally have 6 on my radiator... 3 front pushing, 3 backside pulling... probably overkill.. but... that’s how I do crap. Have 16 fans total... 😳😳🤯

cold island
#

🤔

#

you should give my your fans 😉

alpine grotto
#

When I upgrade some I can.. want them all to be the same brand.

little fractal
#

when should one consider upgrading to water colling

deft crag
#

when you have enough cash

little fractal
#

so never

#

jk

#

thakns

deft crag
#

nah i am just joking

#

do it when you feel for it

#

it's up to yo

#

you*

little fractal
#

right now i have four case fans but i still feel my CPU get's a bit hot. Where cani easily check my cpu temp

topaz blaze
little fractal
#

cccool thanks

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how do these temps look

topaz blaze
#

what programs do you have running? @little fractal

little fractal
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only the ones seen on the bottom

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i think i was dolwnloading somethign but thats really it

topaz blaze
#

can i see a picture of the inside of your computer tower?

little fractal
topaz blaze
#

what about a picture with the computer off and using your camera flash

little fractal
#

ok give me a sec to save some stuff

topaz blaze
#

like a good picture facing directly towards the side would be good

little fractal
#

ok

#

I have pretty bad cable management

#

Is that good

topaz blaze
#

hmm barely any dust in the system, looks pretty clean. and the video card temp is fine so no need to look at that. For some reason the cpu temp and mobo temp are high though.

#

Do you have your cpu overclocked?

little fractal
#

No, I don't even know how

topaz blaze
#

with your computer powered on, are all the fans spinning?

little fractal
#

Yep, all four case fans and my CPU fan

topaz blaze
#

What model ASUS mobo is that?

little fractal
#

Lemme check

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ASUS PRIME B450M-A/CSM AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

topaz blaze
#

So you're using a 2nd device to chat with me, correct?

little fractal
#

Yes

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Mee phone

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Well I've plugged my computer back in now

topaz blaze
#

ok so restart your computer and enter the BIOS using the delete key, or F2 keys, asus manual does not say which

little fractal
#

With just Speccy open temperature is at 54

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Ok

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I'm in the BIOS

topaz blaze
#

ok hold on

#

does the BIOS say it's in EZ mode anywhere on that screen?

little fractal
#

Yea

topaz blaze
#

what does the cpu rpm readout say?

little fractal
#

For the CPU fan? 2472

topaz blaze
#

and cpu temp?

little fractal
#

68 c

topaz blaze
#

that's pretty warm for sure for only being in the BIOS.

#

did you assemble this computer yourself?

little fractal
#

Ok

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Is there a fix?

#

Yes I did

topaz blaze
#

with the computer off, can you use a philips screw driver to carefully turn the cpu heatsink screws clockwise to make sure they are snug and do not turn any further?

little fractal
#

Yes

topaz blaze
#

make sure to check all 4

little fractal
#

Ok, I think we found the issue, two of my screws turn like there not going into anything

topaz blaze
#

ok so I would loosen the 2 that are tight and then with a little pressure, push down on the 2 that will not tighten and see if you can get them to catch threads and screw in and tighten

#

don't loosen the tight ones all the way, just a little bit

#

I say that assuming one side has the 2 tight screws and the other side has the 2 loose screws but it could be opposite corners.

little fractal
#

Yess

topaz blaze
#

let me know if you get all 4 snugly screwed in?

little fractal
#

I'm pretty sure there screwed in good. It has this thing to not let you overscrew but it appears they are all in and snug

topaz blaze
#

ok great. please boot back into your bios and let me know the new cpu temp

#

Delete or F2 btw

little fractal
#

50c

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Might climb a but tho

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*bit

topaz blaze
#

I'd let it sit in BIOS 2 minutes then check the temp again

little fractal
#

Kk

alpine grotto
#

What is the room temp? You in Europe with 113 F out side?

little fractal
#

No, my house is 76 F tho

topaz blaze
#

@little fractal what's the cpu temp now?

little fractal
#

Looks like it might settle at 54 or 55

topaz blaze
#

that's better than 68C

little fractal
#

Loads

topaz blaze
#

Can you boot the computer and open all the same programs as before when you had speccy open too and check the speccy temps again?

little fractal
#

K ok

topaz blaze
#

@little fractal looks like you were running chrome, speccy, norton, discord, voice meeter, and steam.

daring pivot
#

norton's a pretty good resource hog

topaz blaze
#

his cpu cooler screws were loose

little fractal
#

Yep

daring pivot
little fractal
#

not much better

topaz blaze
#

7C drop in temps

daring pivot
#

nice

little fractal
#

now it's at 67

daring pivot
#

did you apply thermal paste?

alpine grotto
#

New thermal paste)

little fractal
#

no

#

i don't have any

#

i could go buy some

daring pivot
#

wait

#

wait

#

there's none on there at all?

little fractal
#

i met not new

#

tmy fan said it came pre apllied

topaz blaze
#

you left the stock thermal paste on the bottom of the cooler right?

daring pivot
#

oh good

little fractal
#

yes

topaz blaze
#

ok

daring pivot
#

skeered me

topaz blaze
#

i was thinking cpu fan speed control next

little fractal
#

68c

#

im sppoked

topaz blaze
#

whats the exact cpu model?

little fractal
#

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics 4 core proccessor 3.7 GHz Max boost 3.5GHz base

#

Straight from the box

topaz blaze
#

well don't get too scared, your cpu max temp is 95C

little fractal
#

ok

#

i knew that but still, im not even gaming right now

topaz blaze
#

try closing all the programs except speccy, let it sit a couple minutes and then tell me the cpu temp?

little fractal
#

Ok everything is closed

#

It's not moving

#

Still a steady 66

#

65

topaz blaze
#

I'm thinking it may be your cpu fan speed bios settings...

#

hold on...

#

can you restart and go back in your BIOS and go into "qfan control" and tell me what options are in there?

#

qfan section should be F6

little fractal
#

Standard. Silent. Turbo. Full speed. Manuel

topaz blaze
#

what was it set to?

little fractal
#

Standard

topaz blaze
#

try turbo

#

full speed would be too much but turbo might be just right

little fractal
#

All fans or just CPU

topaz blaze
#

just turbo on the cpu fan if you can

little fractal
#

Done

topaz blaze
#

alright make sure to save settings while restarting

little fractal
#

Cool

#

What now

topaz blaze
#

you booting to windows?

little fractal
#

Yes

topaz blaze
#

once you're there with only speccy running can you tell me your cpu temp after it idles for a couple minutes?

little fractal
#

Looks like 50c but I'll tell you if it changes

topaz blaze
#

ok

#

do you hear a louder fan noise than usual btw or is it not really a noticeable difference?

little fractal
#

Sometimes it spikes into the 60's but it always comes back down

#

Also no. Even pressing my ear to my case can't hear a thing

topaz blaze
#

that's good it's not loud...so 50C at idle hmm..

#

try loading chrome, speccy, norton, discord, voice meeter, and steam and check the temps after they are all running a minute or 2

little fractal
#

48-50 with small spikes here and there

#

Is running a dual monitor set up taxing on the CPU

topaz blaze
#

is the cpu fan loud now with all those programs running?

little fractal
#

No

topaz blaze
#

monitors mostly tax the video card

little fractal
#

Ok, cause that's what I'm hoping to do when my new monitor gets here

topaz blaze
#

great so it looks like that turbo qfan setting fixed your issue

little fractal
#

Cool thanks

topaz blaze
#

I do however recommend, especially since you know how to do it yourself, putting on some aftermarket thermal paste sometime. I recommend "Arctic MX-4"

#

clean old thermal paste off cpu and heatsink, apply a pea size dot on the cpu, then reinstall cpu cooler

little fractal
#

will definitly think about that

topaz blaze
#

it does not need to get done right away but that would help your temperatures even further

little fractal
#

cccoolio

topaz blaze
#

enjoy the computer, glad i could help

little fractal
#

thanks for helping even tho todays a holiday. Have fun

topaz blaze
#

no problem, Happy 4th of July!

little fractal
#

👋

quasi flume
#

So question, I'm also Googling it as well but Does the GTX 1660ti Have a Waterblock? just doing some theorycrafting. Probably get a 10-series card from the used market or something for some intro into Overclocking and Liquid Cooling. I ask about the 1660ti since it's farely inexpensive and has pretty good performance, close to a 1070(ti? been a couple months since the reviews i watched xD)

oblique steppe
agile whale
#

i had the same question but found out you should be able to use ekwb g 1/4 fittings on it

#

@oblique steppe

river gorge
#

g 1/4 is the standard.

agile whale
#

but for fittings i would reccomend using bitspower fittings

blissful cloak
river gorge
#

decent 😄

topaz blaze
wind dove
#

@spring kraken are you planning on buying one?

topaz blaze
#

@spring kraken You're welcome.

cobalt lark
#

Anyone have an extra AIO they don't use I could maybe buy off them?

#

That still works lmao

cobalt lark
#

I'm talkin' 40$

#

Jk

#

I know that AIO

#

Some dude said on my stream that it had some problems with leaking

worldly heath
#

if you only have $40 to spend, you shouldn't even be looking at AiOs

wind dove
#

@cobalt lark The Scythe Mugen is a very good cooler

#

It will perform better than almost all 240mm AIO

potent cedar
#

well there is actually a very good aio

#

for 40$

#

heheeee

graceful vigil
#

...more amazon links in newegg's discord...what is wrong with you people lol

river gorge
#

pohemi

#

BuT iT IsNt A rUL

#

😐

iron gorge
#

I'd rather buy a coolermaster one for $15 more

#

its RGB too 😉

graceful vigil
#

maybe not, @river gorge but it should be common sense and courtesy

#

lol

#

common sense these days isn't so common though 😐

iron gorge
#

Yea I know right

#

ur such a little turd nugget @graceful vigil

#

😦

graceful vigil
#

o.0

iron gorge
#

I'm kidding Ily ❤

wanton sparrow
#

Should I be as afraid of liquid metal for my cpu as some people are suggesting?

#

I don't want to run any risks of damaging my mobo

wanton sparrow
#

Thanks for the video

#

I've seen mixed things floating around

daring pivot
#

that's a poly paste

#

it has silver in it

#

but it's a thermal paste

wanton sparrow
#

Gotcha; thanks

wanton sparrow
daring pivot
#

yes

fierce slate
#

currently using a 420 lph ppcs raystorm pump. what would you guys suggest as a overclocking replacement?

#

hydro x? ek d5?

fierce slate
#
#

thinking of the ek one cause you can change the res tube i dont think you can change the hydro x to a bigger sqare tube

river gorge
#

cant say much about corsair

#

but I use ekwb

fierce slate
#

cant overclock with a 420lph can you?

#

im using a raystorm ion xspc starter kit

river gorge
#

why couldn't you OC with it.

#

?

fierce slate
#

last time i tried after 2 weeks my pump went out had to get a replacement pump and switch it out

#

but coulda just been a bad pump

river gorge
#

that has nothing to do with OCing though

#

pump will fail just because

fierce slate
#

ah i just figured the heat was too much for the pump

river gorge
#

nah

#

not sure what pump they use

#

D5 is probably one of the best.

fierce slate
#

yea

#

i gotta save up for that tho

#

lol

#

still need a new pc desk, 144hz monmitor

river gorge
#

so many new shinies.

subtle flower
#

Will this fan be adequate for cooling an 8600k?

#

I'm upgrading from an 8400 (with stock cooler) and am thinking that the 8600k will need better cooling than that

wanton sparrow
#

Are you going to overclock?

subtle flower
#

I'm going to try to.

#

The cooler is almost half off and matches my blue led color scheme

#

But idk if it can cool off an 8600k enough for overclocking

#

I'm assuming it's at least much better than the Intel stock cooler lol

wanton sparrow
#

How much are you willing to spend on a cooler and what is the CPU cooler clearance inside of your case?

#

@subtle flower

subtle flower
#

I think it's pretty big. Let me measure.

#

I am on minimum wage so I really don't wanna push it higher than $30

wanton sparrow
#

Gotcha

subtle flower
#

175-180mm about

wanton sparrow
#

What's your CPU?

subtle flower
#

It would match the color scheme

#

My current is an 8400, I just got a used 8600k for $170, which is about what the 8400 is worth used

#

So I'mma sell the 8400 for a pretty even deal.

#

But the stock cooler ain't gonna do much for an 8600k I don't think

subtle flower
#

That one seems really nice

river gorge
#

not going to be able to oc much with 30 dollar air cooler.

wanton sparrow
#

for that price, it's a decent cooler tho

daring pivot
#

you don't know how good the EVO is do you box

#

it's a 180W cooler

river gorge
#

aircooling pleebs

#

but no, I don't

daring pivot
#

it's the best budget cooler, even like 7 years later

river gorge
#

even for OCing?

daring pivot
#

yes

river gorge
#

😮

daring pivot
#

i mean, you won't comfortably hit 5GHz with it

#

but it's a $30 cooler

river gorge
wanton sparrow
umbral onyx
#

but i dont want to buy them both because then its kinda a waste of money

subtle flower
#

I wasn't looking to overclock to a full 5. Maybe 4.6-4.7

warm comet
#

@umbral onyx I have the xres 140 ddc and bought an ek 250ml res on ebay for about $30

#

it was missing the mounting bracket and screws for the bracket, but I just wanted the tube so it worked out well for me.

nocturne palm
#

I have a question what paste is better for cooling a cpu liquid metal or normal thermal paste

acoustic scarab
#

Metal is more heat conductive so in theory metal would be better

#

Arctic silver probably pretty good

worldly heath
#

Liquid metal is definitely better for cooling, but it's harder to use and comes with risks

nocturne palm
#

what kind of risk?

daring pivot
#

watch that

#

and that

silent raptor
unique lilyBOT
#
NotWD#4882 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

silent raptor
#

That heatspreader is why I didn't get a 240mm rad

silent raptor
#

Aaaand UPS bungled it. Didn't buzz. Didn't call. Sigh.

topaz blaze
#

@silent raptor No cursing please, it's in the #rules

#

Sorry to hear about your failed delivery.

obsidian sphinx
#

So I put my water cooler's radiator by the front of my case, where the case fans are. Can I take the other fans off of the radiator and use them as case fans?

topaz blaze
#

@obsidian sphinx Yes, as long as you still get enough air blowing through the radiator.

silent raptor
#

Just picked it up from the UPS store and got the Noctua fan in the front and ready

jolly zephyr
#

i just got some new corsair sp120 fans and im kinda confused on what i plug them into

#

can someone help me out?

topaz blaze
#

@jolly zephyr Do you have a fan hub?

daring pivot
jolly zephyr
#

whats a fan hub?

daring pivot
#

watch that video

jolly zephyr
#

i have a prebuilt so i might but i just dont know

#

ok

daring pivot
#

oh i see

jolly zephyr
#

i dont have that jcorsair1 thing

#

is that a problem?

#

do i need one of those?

daring pivot
#

take a picture of the cord end of one of the fans

jolly zephyr
#

gimme a sec

daring pivot
#

the end with no sticker can go directly to your motherboard

#

you just won't have addressable RGB

jolly zephyr
#

what does that mean?

daring pivot
#

it'll go to a header like that on your motherboard

#

addressable RGB means you can control the RGB lights with software

topaz blaze
#

The headers should say something like "Case_fan1" "Case_fan 2"

daring pivot
#

but for that you would an expensive hub

jolly zephyr
#

oh ok

jolly zephyr
#

so could i just buy an rgb controller to change the lights?

#

i see something labeled "CHA_FAN2"

topaz blaze
#

yes, you can plug a fan in that connector

jolly zephyr
#

ok

#

i have 3 fans

topaz blaze
#

your mobo has multiple CHA fan connectors

jolly zephyr
#

i only see 1

topaz blaze
#

what is the brand and model of motherboard?

jolly zephyr
#

asus prime b450m-a

#

and if i had an rgb controller, could i change the color of the rgbs?

topaz blaze
jolly zephyr
#

ok

#

soooooo

#

i just dont have a third fan then?

topaz blaze
#

Not for now. You can buy a fan hub or a splitter cable to plug 2 fans into one connector

jolly zephyr
#

damn

#

guess i gotta screw everything back in now huh

#

and the fan hub would allow me to change the rgb color with a program like icue?

jolly zephyr
#

ok cool

topaz blaze
#

yeah a rgb fan hub would allow you to do that.

jolly zephyr
#

ok

#

ill just get that i guess

#

i unscrewed all of my fans lmao

topaz blaze
#

or ASUS Aura would change your RGB too since you have an ASUS mobo it would pair up well

jolly zephyr
#

ok

silent raptor
topaz blaze
#

Yeah 60C is a high idle temp for sure.

silent raptor
#

42 is fine in this case because I live in a hotbox apartment complex

topaz blaze
#

lol

silent raptor
#

ambient is like 28-30 LOL

topaz blaze
#

that's pretty good.

feral merlin
#

🤔 Disappointed with my Rosewill Case fans any Ideas I will intertain

daring pivot
#

you wanna go cheap or what?

feral merlin
#

I got thier Nautilus case and it only has 3 pin fans

#

was hoping that The Asus Tuf B450m- plus gaming would have more then 2 headers too

feral merlin
#

will fan expert 2+ recognize all the fans hooked up?

daring pivot
#

i believe so

#

i know when i was using a hub, HWmonitor could see them all

feral merlin
#

okay, i see that it uses a SATA Cable to PSU? Not to a SATA header?

daring pivot
#

that's a SATA power cable

#

the reason for that is SATA power is a heck of a lot better than using Molex 4 pin

feral merlin
#

👌

#

Got a modular PSU HIVE 750S so plenty of space to use

daring pivot
#

yeah for sure

plain wigeon
#

Sofhia

daring pivot
#

you what now

plain wigeon
#

What's up Matt

feral merlin
#

Thanks Matt

daring pivot
#

you got it, man

plain wigeon
daring pivot
#

no

#

that GT 1030 holds it way back

#

hold on i'll find you something

plain wigeon
#

K thank u

daring pivot
#

$600 budget?

plain wigeon
#

Yes

feral merlin
plain wigeon
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K that one runs over 60 fps for fortnite

daring pivot
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yeah, for sure

plain wigeon
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K thank u Matt

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Do I need to buy a graphics card for it or no

daring pivot
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it has one in it

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the GTX 1650

plain wigeon
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K thank u

daring pivot
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actually

plain wigeon
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I'm going to order to tomorrow. But if I don't like it could I return it

feral merlin
daring pivot
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that one's even better

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nice

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the R3 1200 and 570 is a good pairing

feral merlin
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it works for what i need

daring pivot
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yeah

feral merlin
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future upgradable too

daring pivot
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@plain wigeon check that best buy link i posted

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yeah, the AM4 platform is wide open for you

plain wigeon
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Will that run higher than 60 fps

feral merlin
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I do a lot of WAR THUNDER

daring pivot
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it'll run even better than the other one i posted, yeah

feral merlin
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was on a lap slow top lol

daring pivot
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gotta do what you gotta do

plain wigeon
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Matt thank u

daring pivot
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you got it

plain wigeon
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Does it come with the keyboard

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And mouse

daring pivot
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yes

feral merlin
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never had better then 12FPS , now I can throttle it at 70 and the game play is so much better

plain wigeon
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I bought a pc and returned at Best Buy btw I buy power pcs suck don't buy it

daring pivot
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they can be hit or miss, yeah

plain wigeon
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🤣

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K have a good night Matt

daring pivot
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you too, man

quick jungle
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Ibuypower from Bestbuy :))

daring pivot
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ibuypower does make 'em pretty

feral patrol
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sees cable management behind

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: O

quick jungle
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:()

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:))

feral patrol
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;)(;

quick jungle
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Need more money to upgrade

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I was 17 yo, and i still broke ;))

daring pivot
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same tbh

feral merlin
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we all are

dry spoke
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The ram tho

plain wigeon
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My friend said the one at Best Buy is bad and this one is better

feral patrol
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the same one is bad

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let's get it online but with shipping

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yeAh

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lol

plain wigeon
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Matt u there

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Yo Matt

daring pivot
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your friend is 100% wrong

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hold on i'll get a video

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as an example

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the GT 1030 is what's in the build you posted

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the RX 570 is what's in the Best Buy PC

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those two graphics cards are not even in the same league

plain wigeon
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K thank u do much wanna play fortnite

daring pivot
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i don't play fortnite

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Oh

feral patrol
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matt you had it coming lmao

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the fortnite profile pictures attacked you

daring pivot
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and here's a comparison between the CPU in the rig you posted and the one in the Best Buy PC

feral patrol
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no hate towards fortnite

daring pivot
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i just don't like epic as a company tbh