#cases-psu-and-cooling

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elfin trout
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Ye wifi 6 needs wifi 6 router too

scenic lance
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............

surreal magnet
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you have a wifi 5 router

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if your wondering

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if you had a wifi 6 router, you would know

elfin trout
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Yep

scenic lance
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6 router ?

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let me check

elfin trout
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If you didn't buy one, you don't have one.

surreal magnet
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you would have paid like a few hundred for it

elfin trout
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I don't know of any provider that would give you one without charging like 200$ extra

scenic lance
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oh really

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wow

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thanks

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didn't know that

elfin trout
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I mean they are 100$+ anyways soo

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Point is

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet Okay got it I definitely don't have that modern wifi

elfin trout
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Fancy new stuff you don't use = wifi 6

scenic lance
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thanks Mr1111

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and annoying profile pic

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@surreal magnet about the case ..............

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@surreal magnet I'm planning to build mid-tower

surreal magnet
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mid-tower doesnt mean anything

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theres ITX, mATX, and ATX

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mATX is the cheapest

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet okay is mATX good enough ?

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serious question

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I mean

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after my first build

surreal magnet
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yes, you dont have to @ me every time lmao

scenic lance
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I'll not upgrade naything

surreal magnet
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im right here

scenic lance
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until next 5 years

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maybe 3-5 years

surreal magnet
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yeah, its literally the physical size of the board

scenic lance
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I like your case

surreal magnet
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its, meaningless

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yeah, its on sale rn

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insanely good deal

scenic lance
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Okay

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here's a problem

minor portalBOT
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Mrs.I'mNotGay#3716 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

scenic lance
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I'm R-tarded

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and I've built a pc in my life

elfin trout
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Bad words bad

scenic lance
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is mATX gonna hard to build ?

elfin trout
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No

surreal magnet
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no filter bypassing lmao

scenic lance
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okay

elfin trout
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ITX is hard, mATX is basically same thing as ATX

scenic lance
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that's why I avoid mATX

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okay

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wow

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Mini ATX is extremely small

elfin trout
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Not really

scenic lance
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to me

elfin trout
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ITX is the small stuff

scenic lance
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sir

elfin trout
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mATX is just atx board with the bottom 30mm chopped off

scenic lance
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oh my bad

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this's micro ATX

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not mini atx

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I googled the wrong case

surreal magnet
scenic lance
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@surreal magnet I think u sent me the same pcpp

surreal magnet
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i changed the psu

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oh, also, are you sure you really need a tb of ssd?

scenic lance
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why not ?

surreal magnet
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i would say 512gb is the ideal size

tired oak
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Depends on what games

scenic lance
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oh I chose 1tb

elfin trout
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Sassy 1tb ssd is fine for primary storage tbh

scenic lance
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because I'm not gonna use hhd

elfin trout
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I'd go for it

surreal magnet
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most games dont even need the speeds that ssd offers

elfin trout
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Mp34 so cheap

surreal magnet
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its still 110 dollars

tired oak
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Thats cheap

scenic lance
elfin trout
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Remember, 512gb ssd + 2tb hdd is about same price

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63+55$

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Hell

surreal magnet
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ya, thats an extra 1.5tb

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for the same price

elfin trout
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It's more expensive nowadays

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet I also learning coding and drawing on tablet sir

elfin trout
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And if they are normal people that game

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And want fast speeds and stuff

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I'd grab them a 1tb ssd

surreal magnet
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i mean its totally overkill

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but ok

elfin trout
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And they can grab a 2tb hdd in the future when they fill it up

scenic lance
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I think 1tb is good enough for me

surreal magnet
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that costs more tho

elfin trout
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I have ~700gb used up on my SSD

tired oak
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The only real difference is loading times im pretty sure

surreal magnet
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loading times? hardly

scenic lance
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I'm using 1tb hhd and 256 gb now

elfin trout
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And I personally offload things I don't use to my HDD

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Sooo

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There's definitely an use case

tired oak
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SSD is ideal for OS though

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Correct me if im wrong

surreal magnet
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imo, your gonna want to install games, and its gonna fill up a tb fast

scenic lance
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@tired oak OS ?

tired oak
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Operating system

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet sir can I buy 850W psu ?

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for the furture ?

elfin trout
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Sassy that's what I mean, and you'll want that on an SSD.

surreal magnet
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why 850w?

scenic lance
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I don't want to upgrade PSU

surreal magnet
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soooo, he should get 2tb of ssd?

scenic lance
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no no

elfin trout
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If they have that much, yes.

scenic lance
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1tb is good enough for me

surreal magnet
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thats what i thought

scenic lance
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I don't need more than that TBH

elfin trout
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But a normal person wants more than 512gb of game+os space

surreal magnet
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how much do you game? what games do you play the most rn

scenic lance
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Not really much

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like

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2 3 hours

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If I want to play

surreal magnet
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do you play any fps games?

scenic lance
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no I hate fps games

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............

elfin trout
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I'm still on the 1tb ssd for games and programs, gotta go

scenic lance
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@elfin trout take care Mr1111 you saved my ass and money sir

surreal magnet
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hmmm, well i guess game storage wont be that big of an issue

tired oak
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If fast loading time is important for you, get a larger ssd

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If not, get 250gb for OS only

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet my laptop has 1tb hhd and 256gb ssd

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I still have 500gb storage to fill

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because my laptop can't handle a lot of game in low setting

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so I deleted most of them

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.................

surreal magnet
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?

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what does this have to do with anything

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet so what do you think about 850w ?

surreal magnet
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850w overkill

scenic lance
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future-proof ?

surreal magnet
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650w is all you need for this system, and as components get more power efficient, even 650w could be overkill

scenic lance
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oh okay

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750w then ?

surreal magnet
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"future proofing" a system is more complicated than bigger = better

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650w

scenic lance
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<(")

surreal magnet
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not 750, not 850

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the peak power draw of that system will be under 650w

scenic lance
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okay sir

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<(")

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you saved me 200$

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god damn it sir I luv you

minor portalBOT
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Mrs.I'mNotGay#3716 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

surreal magnet
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and by the time you are ready to upgrade the system, the ATXv0 spec will have taken over, and the psu will be useless

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so

scenic lance
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oh okay

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you've got the point there

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got it

surreal magnet
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back to the ssd vs ssd+hdd, if you arent playing a ton of large games, then just getting ssd should be fine

scenic lance
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man

tired oak
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Is wd blue hhd good?

surreal magnet
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yeah its fine

scenic lance
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oh yeay @surreal magnet are Read/Write matter ?

surreal magnet
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they are all marketing terms

scenic lance
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not really specific on game

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I mean

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Operating system

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program

elfin trout
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Bak

scenic lance
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I'm gonna to program and drawing stuff a lot

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in the future

surreal magnet
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R/W is almost complete marketing BS that we ignore

elfin trout
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12vo will be an interesting thing to keep an eye on, who knows if it'll get adopted or something else

scenic lance
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god damn it marketing

surreal magnet
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im expecting 12v0 to take over

scenic lance
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12 pin ?

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12 pins ?

elfin trout
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Read write is just a ballpark estimate

surreal magnet
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and im kinda excited about it

scenic lance
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so basically all ssd the same ?

elfin trout
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I mean, it's theoretically more efficient and all

scenic lance
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so how do we even know which ssd is better than the others ?

elfin trout
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@scenic lance no, you can check the ballpark of the speeds, but don't chase the 100mb/s differences

surreal magnet
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we base our ssd choices off of real testing done to ssds

scenic lance
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@elfin trout oh okay

surreal magnet
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so places like toms hardware have tested almost every ssd you can buy rn

elfin trout
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And there are diminishing returns

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Especially past the 3000mb/s mark

scenic lance
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yeay my ssd I'm gonna get is 3100read and 2800 write

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I think it should be good enough

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hey

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do you think

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GPU in the future

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is gonna take more than 2 slots in case ?

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because mATX has only 3 slots

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my bad

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4

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GPU needs 2

tender root
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you are misunderstanding what "slots" mean

elfin trout
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GPU "slots" is a measurement of the thickness, and doesn't really correlate to where the physical slots on the motherboard are

tender root
scenic lance
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IDK what term to use

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but you've got the idea what I'm trying to say

tender root
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yes/no

elfin trout
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Gpu slot thickness might make more sense if you look at the cutouts on the case

tender root
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better example

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the above mainboard has two pci-e x16 slots on it

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and a single x1 slot

scenic lance
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that's not the slot

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I'm talking about

tender root
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have patience

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the spacing between the 2 x16 is 2 "slots" of distance

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there could have been a 4 slot between the two x16. But because most GPU's are 2 slot or above

scenic lance
tender root
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there is generally a free/empty slot beneath the first x16 slot on any board

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however, depending on the case that you place a mainboard in

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you have physical room for way bigger cards

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nothing prevents you from taking the above board and installing it in a case like the one you linked

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that would enable you to install a 3 slot "thick" card in the bottom slot

scenic lance
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okay cool thank you

tender root
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and you would be using the marked in red slots on your picture

scenic lance
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@tender root what do you call that ?

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holes ?

tender root
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the marked in red sections?

scenic lance
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yeay

tender root
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technically, slot covers, but only when you have the context of talking about a case

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet do you use mATX ?

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case

tender root
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iirc, he uses a ATX board

scenic lance
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okay

surreal magnet
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i got a good deal on an ATX board, and the case i wanted was ATX, sooo

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also i needed a ton of pcie slots

scenic lance
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@tired oak I don't see the airflow in the first one whatsover

surreal magnet
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the first one has better airflow, but still not that great

elfin trout
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@tired oak what about a MX330-G air

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For 60$

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3 fans

scenic lance
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LOL

tender root
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@scenic lance first one has vents up along the sides (on the front panel that is)

scenic lance
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my build cut from 1600-1700$ to 1500$ i

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@elfin trout @surreal magnet what case fan do you guys recommend ?

elfin trout
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Arctic P12

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and also stock fans are usually good nuff

scenic lance
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okay

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then I'll not invest in pc case then

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how about cpu fan ?

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I'm planning using cpu stock fan

tender root
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noctua, simply for their silly good service

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IF you need/want one beyond the stock cooler that is

scenic lance
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okay thanks

proud steeple
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Is there a way to know all of the cables you need plugged in to your psu?

tender python
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Turn it on and see what works

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Should have mobo plugged in

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Cpu power

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Gpu

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Sata for any drives

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Possibly fans if they’re aren’t run off mobo

proud steeple
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All the fans are off the mobo. Just making sure I have the right cables in ty

tender python
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You can do it

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I believe in your

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Abilities

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But really that was just a typo and supposed to say you.

scenic lance
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@surreal magnet hey are u there ?

surreal magnet
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yesh

scenic lance
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I just found out

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there're two type of mATX

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mini tower

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and mid tower

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..............

surreal magnet
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i mean, kinda, but they dont really mean anything compatibility wise

tender root
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thats the case size

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on the "outside"

scenic lance
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the one you recommended me is mini tower

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mATX mini tower

surreal magnet
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it literally has to do with the physical size of the case

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ok and?

scenic lance
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so

surreal magnet
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so what

scenic lance
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I mean it's the same

surreal magnet
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and?

scenic lance
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but just sligtly bigger

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?

surreal magnet
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yes

scenic lance
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god damn it marketing

surreal magnet
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dude it doesnt matter

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its an mATX case, mATX mobo goes in it

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done

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problem solved

scenic lance
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<(")

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I was thinking about

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going smaller mobo

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<(")

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mini mobo

tender root
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itx is the name of that

surreal magnet
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that costs more and is more annoying to work with

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usually

scenic lance
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oh okay

surreal magnet
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the case i suggested is quite small already

scenic lance
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what's your monitor ?

surreal magnet
scenic lance
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hmmm

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noice

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okay ty dude

vivid forge
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so if anyones willing I'd love some case suggestions with good air flow. I have a build ill be putting together soon and originally I had a Phanteks P400a, but it fell and shattered across the floor soooo before I go and work out getting another P400a I thought about seeing if theres any other options out there that could work.

fickle forge
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P500a Smile

vivid forge
pliant cypress
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Yeah another Phanteks case would work

vivid forge
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Yeah I figured

forest sapphire
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Lian li Lancool II white?

orchid magnet
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Lian Li cool II Mesh RGB is pretty nice. If you got a micro center they have it in stock for $119 or $109 I think

soft basin
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i found a pretty interesting case

unreal garden
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Could maybe mount the psu the other direction then

chrome iris
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A lot of cases have holes on top of the psu shroud. I love that for flips cause you wan ways wanna mount fan up for flips. Never know when the customer is gonna put their psu on carpet

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Never seen holes in the sides though

unreal garden
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Any good cases on sale for a good price preferably a midtower that comes with at least a fan or two?

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thinking the $40-70

elfin trout
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@unreal garden Mx330-g air

unreal garden
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@elfin trout that's funny i was looking at that one a week ago

elfin trout
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:P

unreal garden
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good price

elfin trout
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there's a 70% chance I recommended it a week ago

unreal garden
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🤓

chrome iris
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look at some diypc ones

unreal garden
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Yeah I been looking at those too pretty good prices

tribal pawn
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Do you guys think a slightly used 850x fully modular Corsair psu is worth for $125?

tribal pawn
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Also paired with a 3080

vital horizon
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Is the PowerSpec 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Semi-Modular Power Supply good?

chrome iris
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@vital horizon its ok

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@tribal pawn im pretty sure you can just get one new for not much more. Used can be iffy

vital horizon
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@chrome iris what do you reccomend

chrome iris
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for what CPU + GPU?

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and how much you wanna spend?

vital horizon
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@chrome iris do you want to take a look at the list?

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GPU - Max 110 USD I think

chrome iris
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sure

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let me take a look

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$110 max for the PSU?

vital horizon
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Both Microcenter and PCPP say around 325

chrome iris
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i say get around a 500w PSU

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500w+

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technically 450w would work but for 2060s i prefer 500 for the little headroom

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but look at this PSU tier list. Shoot for tier B.

elfin trout
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I say 500w because 450w units can only have a single 8 pin

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and that isn't good for upgradability

chrome iris
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some do some dont

elfin trout
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ya

chrome iris
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450 BR does CX450 doesnt

elfin trout
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that's why it's nice to just say

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br 500, dew it

chrome iris
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500 BR would be ok

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if you can spend more, CX550, Pure power 10/11

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Neo Eco gold (zen or not)

vital horizon
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@chrome iris im trying to get a semi modular one

chrome iris
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mm

elfin trout
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ofc

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if you can spend more, spend more

chrome iris
elfin trout
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br 500 is the lowest one I'd go for

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so it's default cheapest psu for list

vital horizon
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This is eo confusing

chrome iris
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this video is actually using a 500 br lol

elfin trout
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ya

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@vital horizon so, what do you need to understand?

vital horizon
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How the lunis list works

chrome iris
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modular is cool, but i've built 15-20 computers, and only once used modular. Never once have I regretted getting non modular

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oh, the PSU tier list

vital horizon
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Yes

chrome iris
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so, theres 5 different tiers
tier A, B, C, D, and E

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A is the best, B is next, C after that and etc

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for this cpu + GPU, I'd reccomend a tier B one

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Tier C minimum

elfin trout
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and the spreadsheet is linked for reviews

chrome iris
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All these power supply units under tier B

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on the left is the brand, on the right is the models

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when theyre gold and not black, theyre the best units in the tier

vital horizon
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Ok since im dymb and dont know much of the psu which one would be the best for these requirements
1.Semi Modular
2.110 or under
3. 650 w

elfin trout
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"best"?

chrome iris
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why 650w tho

elfin trout
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Best would be a seasonic gm 650w at 107$

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that I can think of

vital horizon
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550?

elfin trout
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but you can get cheaper for your specific situation

vital horizon
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I mean idk

elfin trout
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Yams can you check pricing?

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cx550 maybe?

chrome iris
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500w is enough, 550w is good

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CX550 is liek what, $80 rn?

vital horizon
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550 then i think

chrome iris
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CX550 is $75 rn

elfin trout
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not great pricing

vital horizon
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Im in art class rn

chrome iris
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the cheapest tier B 550w PSU is the CX550

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from what i can see on PCPP

vital horizon
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Oops

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My teacher called on me

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And i dont have anything 😔

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Ugh art

chrome iris
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lmao

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gotta get ur work done

vital horizon
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I dislike art

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My art

chrome iris
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schoolwork > PCs

vital horizon
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Other ppls art is good

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But i hate my own

chrome iris
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everybody hates their own

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i bet its good

vital horizon
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@chrome iris i have nothing...

chrome iris
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oh

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well

vital horizon
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I have to draw

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A 3d room

chrome iris
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if you do have something i bet its good

vital horizon
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With stuff in it

chrome iris
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hey i had to do a 3d room last year when i was in art

vital horizon
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I cant find my ruler

chrome iris
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bruh

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use a pencil or something idk

vital horizon
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Found it

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It was where my chargers and cables were

chrome iris
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nice

iron ether
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just grabbed an evga g3 850w on newegg - pgood psu?

surreal magnet
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g3 👍

iron ether
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I've been getting a few crash into reboots after installing a new gpu, although, the psu is the oldest thing in my build &+ years

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7+*

plush tulip
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So I currently have a Corsair Carbide Spec 06 case which has a front panel that greatly reduces airflow. I’m looking for a new ATX case which has high airflow but also looks nice. I have seen lots of models with where it’s mesh in the front or lots of holes for air like in the new Corsair 4000D Airflow. I want it to be black as well as having a tempered glass side panel. I’m less concerned with price as long is it isn’t too expensive. I’m looking for close to $100 but some over is fine. My current idea is to go with the 4000D Airflow since it meets my criteria but there seem to be lots of case options and I am wondering if anyone knows of any that have better thermal performance. Also I use a Noctua NH-D15 which is huge and sticks out far so that is also a concern. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

elfin trout
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Coolermaster td500 mesh black

plush tulip
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I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion

oak creek
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hello!

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i have a DeepCool GamerStorm DQ850 M V2 850Watts 80 Plus Gold and wanted to ask i need an extra PCIE power cable for my GPU and do you recommend any brand of cables that is compatible with Deepcool?

pallid elk
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Isn’t it fully modular

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It should have come with more cables

oak creek
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i'm not good with pc building and sorry with my poor english but it came with splitted 6+2 pin so that 2x 6+2 for each cable and i want to get the new rtx 3080 strix which needs 3x 8 pin would work or will be bad for my gpu?

pallid elk
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Oh ok yea you need to get a new power supply you can’t add more cables

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I would recommend getting a different card

oak creek
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no i can add more cables but idk which cables to get

pallid elk
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There should be cables in the box of the power supply then

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It should’ve come with extra

oak creek
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only got like 2x pcie 6+2 one installed to my old gpu and one extra

pallid elk
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Hmm

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There should be a 4+4 pin cable there too

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You’re going to want to plug the 4+4 pin one and the 6+2 ones into the Strix card

oak creek
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thanks! will look into more 🙂

silver temple
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loking for a solid case under 80

elfin trout
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@silver temple Mx330-g air

silver temple
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what wattage should i get for 2060 super r3 3300x 16 gb no oc

willow hollow
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u could live with 450w

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but for future maybe 750w

scenic lance
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Best cheap psu

elfin trout
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Br 500

young osprey
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@plush tulip also check out Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh, and Phanteks P400a and P500a mesh

plush tulip
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ok ill check those out

scenic lance
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im looking of getting a phanteks p600s for my r9 3900x build, is it a good case or should i rethink it? thanks!

young osprey
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for a P600s you would want to take off the front and top panels to allow any air to get in

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that said, i think P500a looks better, and probably performs better than the P600s

pliant cypress
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Yeah

hearty bolt
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P500a is in stock for a few hours at a time before it gets sold out again

pliant cypress
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Was it in stock

shell elm
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my 250 watt non 80+ psu is doing just fine with my AMD EPYC and my 2 3090's in SLI

pliant cypress
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.

unreal garden
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@shell elm what site do you use to download your RAM?

shell elm
unreal garden
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bouta have 64 GB of ram on my 2006 Pentinum

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🤓

shell elm
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nah

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im gonna have 1.5 tb

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with my 1978 intel iAPX 86

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just downloaded 32 gigs!

iron ether
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Installed a 3080 gigabyte oc up from a 2070 super. I had suspicions that I'd be close to my max power draw, now I'm getting crashes with Kernel 41 errors. This means I need a more powerful psu, correct?

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I've had a crash to desktop or 2 as well, but I was just chalking that up to unstable 3080 drivers, but I can't be sure personally

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It's very random and I'm not sure how to replicate the crashes, either. Most of them (both the total system crash into a reboot + games crashing to desktop) appears to be when I get passed a main menu or into a match.

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But I can sometimes do a full day's gaming session without any problems, then sometimes, I just can't play anything it seems.

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I have a i7 9700k, 3080 gigabyte gaming oc, h100i aio, 6x corsair LL fans, 32g corsair vengeance rgb, 2x m.2's and corsair controller on a 750w evga bronze rated psu as well as tons of peripherals (stream deck, usb samson g track pro mic, wireless corsair virtuoso headset, external corsair headset stand/sound card, corsair k65, glorious model D)

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On the chance that it was failing, I just ordered a new EVGA G3 850w.

elfin trout
#

Well, I personally don't think it was the PSU, but do come back again after testing with the G3. @iron ether have you been keeping up with the news of 3080s crashing? I'm not completely up to date but it sounded like there were some driver-side issues that should've been fixed with new Nvidia drivers

iron ether
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Sure have been, although, I’ve seen no reports of crash into full reboot from 3080

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It’s not just games crashing. I will most commonly get a crash with no bsod and just full reboot

young osprey
#

check for bios update for the card

soft basin
#

hiddy ho

somber ibex
#

disagree with both

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antec has cheaper and better

surreal magnet
#

MWE gold pretty good

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120 kinda alot for what it is tho

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also do you really need 750w?

iron ether
thick marten
#

NVM saw corsair sells em directly with free shipping going with em jensen2

elfin trout
#

@thick marten uhhh the CXm isn't great, if looking at the product pic, but CX is fine

unreal garden
#

Maybe don't get bronze

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The rest of the pc is expensive stuff maybe don't skimp on the psu

elfin trout
#

CX isn't bad by any standards

#

it ain't no cheap br

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it's a solid PSU

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(CXm is not, but CX is great)

pliant cypress
#

Thoughts on Seasonic GX vs Cosair RMx which is better?

elfin trout
#

GX might have better warranty, RMx might have better quality.

novel flax
#

any off brand non liam li desk cases or just a glasstop desk? anything cheaper than lian li's 1500$ option

languid mantle
#

Anyone know of some good pc cases that have an "infinity mirror"

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Preferably under $100

elfin trout
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No :p

languid mantle
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Atm im going with a meshify c case

elfin trout
#

What do you call a infinity mirror?

languid mantle
ruby oak
#

like this

languid mantle
#

Idk the name, just assumed thats what its called

elfin trout
#

Like the only infinity mirror I know is the displays on really high end motherboards

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Oh then no

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Not for under 100$ afaik

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I don't even know cases that has that

languid mantle
#

Oh yeah i was gonna ask if anyone knew of any other cases that had that like display for the window thats clear until turned on or whatever. Idk what they cost but id be willing to go higher than $100 obviously

ruby oak
lofty pewter
#

@iron ether very unlikely to be hitting wattage limit. If it is PSU problems, probably smth like voltage regulation, transient perf, or lemon PSU.

iron ether
#

@lofty pewter look just a few messages below 🙂

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I was very close

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@languid mantle just be careful depending on what gpu you’re slapping in

lofty pewter
#

ah ye, I see now

iron ether
#

I have a mesh as well, it doesn’t quite fit 330mm custom GPUs

languid mantle
#

I'm going with a 3070fe

iron ether
#

You should be fine then

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I have a gigabyte 3080 oc and had to remove front Intakes just to get it to fit

languid mantle
#

Ah

iron ether
#

Also what mobo are you using

languid mantle
#

MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

iron ether
#

Like depending on the board you might have ram clearance problems if using an aio

languid mantle
#

I'm using the stock cooler

iron ether
#

I think am4 boards have a lower profile though

languid mantle
#

For now

#

Would it be possible to make a clear lcd screen for the pc window?

iron ether
#

As a visual reference

languid mantle
#

Or could u buy one somewhere?

iron ether
#

I had to change out a fan on the radiator to get it to fit

languid mantle
#

Wow

iron ether
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Don’t get me wrong, I love the case

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It’s just got a few flaws if not planned properly

languid mantle
#

What case did u use again?

iron ether
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Meshify c

languid mantle
#

I'm still saving up so nothing "finalized". So im still looking at cases

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Though I really like the geometric mesh on the front

iron ether
#

Like if I could go back and do it all over

#

I’d actually consider the lian dynamic as cliche as it sounds

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Like infinite room to upgrade

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The larger meshify is also kind of nice

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Same design just wider and slightly taller

languid mantle
#

I like the h1 case nzxt has. That really small one that goes up

iron ether
#

Yeah I was very specific about having a compact non micro atx build this case has done it lol

tender root
#

@languid mantle the H1 is just a bad FT03-mini [edit: it was FT03, not ft01]

scenic lance
#

hi i have a question

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when does newegg restock usually

elfin trout
#

Depends on when they get the items themselves

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They don't have a schedule for restocking afaik

scenic lance
#

rip

elfin trout
#

They just do it when they get it

scenic lance
#

i wanted to rlly get this case

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i guess ill just try to wait

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or get a new case

elfin trout
#

What case?

scenic lance
#

p500a mesh non rgb

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i live in usa

elfin trout
#

Oh yea p500a already got restocked and sold out already lol

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People want that case :p

scenic lance
#

;-;

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ill try to get a different non rgb case i guess

elfin trout
#

I mean

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You can just turn rgb off if you want

#

Also, 10-30 day back order isn't that bad

scenic lance
#

oh its only 10-30 days?

#

i can wait that long

novel flax
#

kek

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and he's gone

cunning cobalt
#

Does anyone know any good mini itx cases?

willow hollow
#

silverstone sugo sg13

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fits atx psu:D

lofty pagoda
#

I'm doing my first build, and I'm not sure what wattage PSU I need. pcpartpicker has me rated at 350W, but thats just the collective TDP of all the parts. I know I want to over that to be safe and have some room for expansion in the future, but I'm not sure how high I should go. I'm going with an 850W PSU right now, but I know thats probably a little high. Any advice?

daring marsh
#

550 is enough

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For future proofing 850 is fine

young osprey
#

550 should be plenty. in your case i wouldn't go over 650

chrome iris
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@lofty pagoda for what CPU + GPU?

lofty pagoda
#

@chrome iris ryzen 7 3700x + rtx 3070

chrome iris
#

id go with 650w if you can

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Fractal Ion+ platinum 660w
Corsair RM or RMx 650w
Enermax Revolution D. F. 650w

lofty pagoda
#

I'm keep leading myself down the path of well, the 750 watt one is only 20$ more, and then the 850W is only 20% more than that...

chrome iris
#

click the "paramic selection" and itll show you a bunch of good psus

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extra wattage isnt needed unless youre "future proofing"

chrome iris
#

Corsair RMx are good PSUs

lofty pagoda
#

what does it mean if I get the corsair rmx (2018) vs the rmx (2019)? Is there even any difference?

chrome iris
#

theres a 2019 RMx?

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or do you mean 2019 RM (non x)?

lofty pagoda
#

yeah

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non x

chrome iris
#

RMx is a little better

lofty pagoda
#

so the year is irrelevant?

chrome iris
#

RM was made to be a slightly cheaper replacement to the RMx

#

i think it was just made a year later

#

idk

#

i think

lofty pagoda
#

ok, thanks

chrome iris
#

np

elfin trout
#

There was also a RMx 2015 that's slightly worse than RMx 2018.

chrome iris
#

yeah

waxen quartz
#

So I’m working on upgrading my pc because I’m selling some parts to a friend for his new pc. Would I be fine with 850w RMx psu or would that mess things up on a build that is about 470w for now and will be around 550ish w when it is upgraded?

fickle forge
#

if psu watt is overkill its okay

#

if its under then its bad

#

also dont cheap out on psu

#

They say they reach certain watt

#

but thats only in a freezer -2c

waxen quartz
#

Ok just wanted to be sure. I knew under wattages is bad but I wasn’t sure about higher wattage since it was mixed reports from what I read. The psu I’m getting is Corsair 850w RMx gold

elfin trout
#

@waxen quartz higher wattage just means bigger dent in your wallet

waxen quartz
#

Ok just wanted to sure

ruby oak
#

Anyone have any idea if these psu are any count?

#

Gotta get a new one for my 3080

lofty pewter
#

basic specs tell me it's a meh 850w, not one I'd get cuz single rail 850w so no OCP on 12v rail

#

but still could be close to RM quality, need to check that

ruby oak
#

Any in particular? I was looking at the EVGA supernova I think, but shipping was super expensive

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“Super expensive” being like $35

lofty pewter
#

Enermax DF is the cheapest and good high wattage multi rail PSU being

#

usually cheapest*

ruby oak
#

Cool, cool, thanks! I just know that I want fully modular and at least 850w. Would prefer gold rating, but I guess that’s not technically as important, not really sure

lofty pewter
#

Also wait

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def dont get the Century PSU

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unless you live in a place with 240v AC wall power

ruby oak
#

nope, don’t think I do

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Found the enermax df, but it’s shipping from China and may not be here for a month and I need it by ~20-25th of this month, rip

lofty pewter
#

MOSFETs on the Century are terrible, if your AC input drops below 100v... You gonna have a bad time, usually really bad from what I can tell (as in at least a nice pop and bad electronics smell - mini explosion). It's rather normal to see AC voltage drop under load, if you're pushing a lot of load on the PC and throughout the rest of whatever is on that specific fuse switch from your house fuse box, then you could see a 10v drop easily I'd say. 20v drop would probably be hard but possible to do

ruby oak
#

Ahh, yeah that’s a no go then

#

See, I messed up and got the TT Smart right now, so I’ve got to replace it either way

#

ticking time bomb

lofty pewter
#

yeah pretty much

lofty pewter
#

also dont get the one that ships from china. That seller is bad. Get the official Newegg one.

#

Heqi has bad ratings

ruby oak
#

you’ve got it for $125 and cheapest on mine is $145 from Newegg, but that’ll do then. My build is mostly Corsair anyways so that’d go along with it

lofty pewter
#

ye, should be good then

ruby oak
#

Appreciate the help!

scenic lance
#

Noob question. Do you take out the PSU Extension Cable plastic piece that keeps the cord together?

chrome iris
#

The cable comb?

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I keep those in. It makes it look cleaner.
If it doesn’t affect performance, then you can take it out. I usually just keep them in cause it makes them a lot neater

scenic lance
#

Ahh okie. Gotcha. Tenks

gusty wadi
#

Thoughts on 275r airflow?

novel flax
#

@gusty wadi good case

#

it's 80$ right?

#

for 90 u can do tdmesh 500 which is way better, and for 100 u can do 220t airflow which is best

gusty wadi
#

@novel flax have you ever had or used one of these cases

novel flax
#

@gusty wadi all 3!

gusty wadi
#

Are they pretty tight for space

#

They seem to be

novel flax
#

not really

#

it's your standard atx mid tower

#

tdmesh 500 is a lil bit bigger tho

gusty wadi
#

But you’d recommend the 220t

novel flax
#

yep

#

@gusty wadi

#

they all have enough space

#

unless u have 3090

gusty wadi
#

Nope

#

I’m gonna try and get a 3070

torpid urchin
#

My case

gusty wadi
#

@novel flax the psu will fit with the hard drive cage in

novel flax
#

it'll all fit

gusty wadi
#

Ok I guess I’ll get that one

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Thanks @novel flax

fickle forge
#

is it worth to get p500a or lian li o11

#

same price

fickle forge
#

should i get asus xii maximus hero

#

mobo

waxen quartz
#

Can you plug a case fan into cpu_opt or will that mess things up?

torpid urchin
#

@chrome iris I suggest you go with the rosewill one

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What are you putting in your system

chrome iris
#

i5-7400 and RX 580

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Rosewill one is cheaper. Just need something that’ll work. It’s a PC flip. Just wondering if the fan on the rosewill is louder or something like that

torpid urchin
#

Seems like a decent psu

#

You got an estimated wattage for your system?

chrome iris
#

Nah. But I know 450w would be fine

torpid urchin
#

Ok then the rosewill should be a very good fit for your situation

chrome iris
#

K

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Thanks

torpid urchin
#

Ok wait a sec

#

I read a few reviews

#

A few say its pretty loud

chrome iris
#

Dang

torpid urchin
#

Ok but most of the ratings include that its quiet so I think you should be fine, theres only 2 or three 3 ratings that say its loud so if when you get it, its loud probs contact the company

chrome iris
#

Alrighty

pliant girder
#

does anyone know if you can remove the HD bays fully for the lian li o11 XL?

#

i'm trying to get more space for cable management

quasi dirge
#

You should be able to. Does it say that in the manual? @pliant girder

pliant girder
#

It actually doesn’t cus I guess they assume you’d know lol, I figured it out just screws it off, thanks!

summer totem
#

Can someone help me with dimensions here?

tender root
#

ask. and people will decide if they can help or want to help.

tender root
#

lookup the cases on the manufacturers website. ALWAYS do this.

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@summer totem that way you have the actual info.

summer totem
#

Well, why would I ask here if I've already searched their sites...

#

Like I've gotten info but don't know much about how actually calculate it for a case as it may be different somehow.

tender root
#

the numbers you need are on their sites

#

and lookup the numbers on the GPU manufacturers site for the card itself

#

length of the card and GPU max length are the numbers you generally need

pliant cypress
#

Hello can i use my fan header i got with my old fans and use them on my new ones that come with the case?

young osprey
#

can you elaborate on what the fan header actually is?

#

since fan headers usually refer to a plug on the MB

pliant cypress
#

@young osprey sorry i meant the fan splitter

#

It came with the aigo dr12 fans can i still use the splitter

young osprey
#

if its a 4-pin splitter it will work with 3 or 4 pin fans. a 3-pin splitter will only work with 3pin fans

pliant cypress
#

Its sata powered

#

Fan hub is the word im looking for my bad

young osprey
#

well...

#

does it have the right pins to power the fans? either 3 or 4 pin?

scenic lance
#

@elfin trout are the 3 fans in the mx 330g air rgb or are they only blue?

elfin trout
#

I think rgb

scenic lance
#

Hmm because in the description of the case on cougars website it says led and not rgb

fickle forge
#

led is rgb

chrome iris
#

no its not

#

i dont think its RGB

#

i think just blue

scenic lance
#

Damn ight

#

Thanks for letting me.know

sudden bobcat
#

Thoughts on cuboid case?

scenic lance
#

thoughts on the new razer case?

north monolith
#

Anyone got a good looking case with god airflow?

vocal tartan
#

budget?

elfin trout
#

Td500 mesh

golden kestrel
#

^ don't even need a budget 😁

lapis epoch
#

😳

vocal talon
soft basin
soft basin
#

It's enough RGB to put Elmo in a coma.

chrome iris
#

you obviously haven't seen my PC...

soft basin
#

No I meant in the terms of fans, although I am skipping the two top and psu shroud fans plus any RGB cabling and strip lights.

#

But by comparison to my current rigs it's fancy

azure hearth
#

Hey I need help with something

elfin trout
#

jk, go ahead

azure hearth
#

I'm tryna plug in my gpu

#

Sry internet is rly slow

elfin trout
#

is ok

#

yup

azure hearth
#

So I need to know what goes where

elfin trout
#

6+2

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goes into gpu

tender root
#

those

azure hearth
#

My psu says that the 6 and the 2 go in the psu

#

Ok so just forget abt the type 4?

#

So I presume the full block of 8 goes into my gpu

#

Right?

tender root
#

IF you gpu needs 6+2, yes

azure hearth
#

No the psu says 6+2

tender root
#

do note, you are not making things easy on us here :)

azure hearth
#

Huh?

tender root
#

the cable you are holding

azure hearth
#

Yeh?

tender root
#

which connectors are actually on it?

#

yes, i can see 3 right now

azure hearth
#

Oh wait

tender root
#

but there should be a 4th

azure hearth
#

Ok so I though one was a solid block of 8 and one was a 6+2 but they are both 6+2's

tender root
#

yes

azure hearth
#

My gpu beeds 8

tender root
#

and the ones that are 6+2 <- those are the ones that plug INTO the gpu

azure hearth
#

N*

#

And what abt the type 4?

tender root
#

the type 4, does it split into 4+4?

azure hearth
#

No

tender root
#

then i need a picture of ALL the connectors

azure hearth
#

Ok

tender root
#

(on that cable that is)

#

because there should be 1 connector on that cable that splits into 4+4

azure hearth
#

The block of 8 is the type 4 the 6 and 2's are the pcie's

#

God y does my hand look so weird lol

tender root
#

and there is nothing else on that cable?

azure hearth
#

Nope

tender root
#

okay, type 4 is what goes into the psu

azure hearth
#

The psu says 6+2 tho

tender root
#

and what is at the other end of that cable?

azure hearth
#

Huh?

#

Oh wait

tender root
#

:)

azure hearth
#

Ok it says 4+4 cpu 6+2 pcie

tender root
#

like that right ? @azure hearth

azure hearth
#

Sry it's hard 2 get a pic of

#

Yep thats it

#

Sry rly rly bad wifi

tender root
#

no worries :)

azure hearth
#

Ok so do i plug the pcie in on the gpu and the psu end?

tender root
#

the reason it says what it does. Is to give you a idea about what the cable is used for

azure hearth
#

Ah ok

#

So what goes where

tender root
#

meaning, the one you are holding in the last picture is a cable that is used for a GPU

azure hearth
#

I'm holding them all in the last pic?

tender root
#

Lets go at it from a different angle :)

#

the sleeved cable that comes from the PSU

azure hearth
#

Yes?

tender root
#

that one is the atx 20+4pin

#

next to that. there is a 4+4pin cable

azure hearth
#

Yep

tender root
#

that 4+4 is the one that goes to the CPU

#

the cable you are holding in the picture above is ONLY supposed to go to the GPU

azure hearth
#

So lemme get this straight

#

The cable that i'm holding is only for the gpu?

#

Yes

tender root
#

correct

azure hearth
#

Ok

tender root
#

the type4 plug on it. is the part that goes INTO the psu

azure hearth
#

Wait

tender root
#

it only fits in 2 places :)

azure hearth
#

And the pcie goes into the gpu?

tender root
#

correct

azure hearth
#

So 4+4 psu

#

6+2 gpu

tender root
#

no

azure hearth
#

the type4 plug on it. is the part that goes INTO the psu
@tender root

tender root
#

yes, type4

#

NOT 4+4

azure hearth
#

Oh thats what I meant sry

tender root
#

:)

azure hearth
#

So type 4 psu

tender root
#

yes

azure hearth
#

6+2 gpu

tender root
#

and depending on your GPU.

IF it needs 8pin, you assemble the 6+2 into a 8pin BEFORE you plug it in :)

azure hearth
#

And what about the 2nd pcie cable?

tender root
#

if you dont need it, dont worry about it :)

azure hearth
#

Ok thankyou lol sry for being an idiot

#

Xd

tender root
#

nothing to be sorry about

azure hearth
#

I'm 13 and it's my first time building a pc

tender root
#

as i say a lot :)

There are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

azure hearth
#

Xd

tender root
#

i much prefer that you ask questions instead of just rushing ahead :)

azure hearth
#

Aights thats the last step lets hope it dosent blow up in my face

#

Ok

tender root
#

it should not

#

remember to check that the "latch" on the cables has clicked into place

soft basin
#

Hiddy ho, I actually had a different issue with my psu, it only came with sata cables tipped single molex 4 pin

#

ended up only using one and saving the others

vocal crystal
#

What's a good 600-650w psu that you guys would recommend?

young osprey
#

EVGA G5

chrome iris
#

@elfin trout can you send me ur a tier psu thingy

chrome iris
#

@vocal crystal these ^

#

hit "show paramic selection"

golden kestrel
#

Thoughts on running a i3 9100f and 1660ti off a 450w br?

chrome iris
#

Thoughts on running a i3 9100f and 1660ti off a 450w br?
@golden kestrel sure

#

BR has been progressively going down the PSU tier list

#

so you might want to get better

#

like maybe a rosewill arc 450w or something

#

but itll work

golden kestrel
#

Alr

chrome iris
#

(dont tell anyone about rosewill arc i dont want it raising in price and stuff)

golden kestrel
#

🤫

#

Lips are sealed

hollow willow
#

What are good evga power supplies

#

For 850W

chrome iris
#

why evga

hollow willow
#

Cause they having a sale

#

I wanted to go w a RMx 850

#

But if it’s for sale and cheaper might aswell

#

Well not necessarily a sale but like the refurbished stuff

chrome iris
#

are 850w P2s on sale?

#

iirc P2s are good

hollow willow
#

I cannot find one

lofty pewter
#

P2s are okay

hollow willow
#

Actually I did some wattage calculators and it said my usage would be 520w. But I plan to OC so should I go with a 850 or just a 750

unreal garden
lofty pewter
#

they suffer from that thing that isnt proven to be dangerous or not with holdup_time and PWR_OK being whack, but still potentially theoretically dangerous.

#

tho still single rail, so no OCP on 12v rail cuz too high wattage

hollow willow
#

@lofty pewter what would you recommend

lofty pewter
#

@hollow willow what components? PC Wattage calculators are usually kinda eh

hollow willow
#

Ryzen 3700x(will upgrade eventually) and 3080 8x2 ddr4(will upgrade)

#

Idk what else to put

#

@lofty pewter

lofty pewter
#

ye, 520w is an understatement. Should be around 600w min for your system. I'd just take a 650w PSU unless you shunt mod/XOC vBIOS flash your GPU or get a 12c+ CPU (3900x/3950x/5900x/5950x) and OC

chrome iris
#

@unreal garden idk why you pinged me of all people, but looks pretty good for the price you pay

hollow willow
#

What’s a shunt mod

#

But alright thanks

#

Ima go w a 750 RMx to cover everything

unreal garden
#

@chrome iris cuz I know you smart

chrome iris
#

That’s kind of you

lofty pewter
#

@hollow willow A shunt is basically a resistor. On GPUs it's used to detect how much power is being pushed through the card. Shunt modding is trying to lessen the resistance of the shunt to trick the card into thinking it's taking less power. So after a shunt mod, the card may think it'll be taking 300w when it's actually taking say 500w.

#

this is to get around the Power Limit on GPUs. Some 3080s for example have a 375w PL and the only way to get around that is to flash a custom video card BIOS or shunt mod

hollow willow
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Ooo i see. I was planning to do some msi afterburner work but nothing crazy

vital horizon
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Guys will i need this?

terse spade
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Anyone have any idea when the Phanteks p500a drgb will be back in stock?

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Nvm just back ordered it

fickle forge
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in stock

elfin trout
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@vital horizon bit hard to tell, might be standoff for the M.2 ssd?

scenic lance
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hi

scenic lance
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Hey any cases you guys recommend looking at. Starting a build

vocal tartan
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td500 mesh

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meshify c

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220t

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phanteks has a lot of options

scenic lance
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Yeah i really want the p500a but its always out of stock

plucky citrus
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80+ PSU or no PSU.

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Remember that.

vocal tree
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Yes

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79 watts or less is bad for computer

north monolith
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Is thermaltake a good psu

vocal tree
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Not really

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They work evidently as people buy them

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But they're discouraged

lofty pewter
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its good, till your PC doesnt feel so good

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and stops working

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failure rate is slightly above average, but the % of catastrophic failures that come out of the failure rate is way too high

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as in, most failures that happen is fire/frying time

unreal garden
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It depends on the model

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There's some good ones

chrome iris
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thermaltake is all over the place with quality

willow hollow
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S M A R T

chrome iris
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T R 2

lofty pagoda
chrome iris
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I don't see much about it, but from what i can see, its not a good unit. Get like a corsair CX or something instead

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@lofty pagoda

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also, why do you need 850w?

lofty pagoda
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High end ryzen processor and nvidia 30 series card

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also, I just like to feel safe, I just dont like the thought of having a psu thats not good enough

chrome iris
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if you want a good PSU, youre gonna have to spend more money

lofty pagoda
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true

chrome iris
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show the parametric selection

lofty pagoda
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the way I see it, the psu has a five year warranty, if it dies I can just return it

chrome iris
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for a bunch of really good psus

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the thermaltake smart also has a 5 year warranty and its trash

lofty pagoda
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fair

chrome iris
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and, if it does, it can take some other components down with it. those arent covered by warranty

lofty pagoda
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ok, thanks, that makes sense

chrome iris
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np

lofty pewter
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@lofty pagoda @chrome iris Century is bad if you live in a location with 120v AC outlet

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if AC voltage drops below 100v, PSU go bye bye - and maybe PC too idk

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you usually already see AC drop like 4v - 5v on a heavy load with a PC, now add a AC power strip, add extra load to whatever else is on the fuse in your fuse box, or even add load to AC power strip, that voltage can get rather close to 100v

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Also, power outages/blips

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actually considering last point, Century is bad in 240v locations too

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basically what happens: bad MOSFETs in PSU explode when given lower then 100v

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also note Squid, PSUs can have warranties but they usually dont cover a dead PC. If your PSU explodes and kills your PC they'll just send you only a new PSU and say "that sucks, better luck next time" basically for the rest of the PC.
Not to mention the I think maybe one manufacturer that does cover the entire PC (which idk if there is, I could be misremembering one of them) still wont recover your data if it kills your drives

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not to mention safety hazards that come with that

chrome iris
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Thanks for the essay Hei

scenic lance
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lol

vocal tree
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Hei essay best essay

lofty pewter
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need the essay to make up for my inactivity

elfin trout
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Yas Hei

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come back to us

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@lofty pewter what is Century?

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And I assume that's about holdup time and/or pwr_ok signal things?

lofty pewter
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Century is a PSU model, not some random spec thing (or at least I hope not)

elfin trout
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ohhh it was a PSU model

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I thought like centurylink and I thought it was some kind of standard

lofty pewter
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if that is a random spec thingy... welp, more learning for me which goes against me being able to be lazy

elfin trout
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Yea I don't think it is a spec thing

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Anyways, I assume that blob was about hold-up time upon voltage loss?

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or are there even more things for me to learn? :D

lofty pewter
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nah, I was talking about voltage from the wall and the I guess what'd be voltage regulation of the wall outlet

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(probably incorrect terms, but eh)

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if the actual wall outlet has voltage drop below 100v when supplying power to PSU, PSU does mini explosion

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usually PSU should just shut off

elfin trout
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hm

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so basically literally doesn't have UVP?

lofty pewter
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it does, it has it on all the rails (3.3v, 5v, and 12v)

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but not on the 120v/240v input, dont think any ATX PSUs do

elfin trout
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Oh interesting

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so PSUs have separate protection for input and output, and most are only checked on the output rail?

lofty pewter
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ye

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like for example, why check SCP on input?

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let the fuse box deal with that