#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 44

tawdry pollen Aug 30, 2020, 8:57 PM

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it doesnt have rgb but it has eveything you need

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@lunar root

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all of these cases are what prebuilts are built in

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cable management is probably gonna be a pain in these

lunar root Aug 30, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I heard the nzxt h510 isn’t that good and I heard from the nzxt discord

tawdry pollen Aug 30, 2020, 8:58 PM

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its a great entry level case

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most of the cases will probably have horrible space for cable management

lunar root Aug 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Will the best think I could do is look at all PCs in the list and compare

tawdry pollen Aug 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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sorry could you explain what you just said?

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do you want me to choose the best out of the ones you listed above?

elfin trout Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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no

tawdry pollen Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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this is a great case for your budget @lunar root

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-08-30_at_2.00.52_PM.png

elfin trout Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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H510 is not good for airflow >:D

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P300a is good case

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Any good SFF cases with good rgb support?

tawdry pollen Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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its mesh so it has great airflow

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I saw an in Win case with rgb on it, but they dont sell models without the power supply

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and its not even sff

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its just mini itx

elfin trout Aug 30, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I mean

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"mini itx" tells you what motherboard it can support

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Most of your "sff" cases support "mini itx"

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ik that

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I want SFF

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but I also want rgb

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but I can't find any SFF with RGB; the closest I can find it a mini itx tower

vocal talon Aug 30, 2020, 9:16 PM

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sff is just a term for cases under 20L its not a spec

quaint merlin Aug 30, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@willow hollow Will the power supply work with an adapter

willow hollow Aug 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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yes usually

quaint merlin Aug 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Ok, thanks for the help! I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't fry my motherboard.

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@vocal talon yes, i am aware

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and I want SFF

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I want small pc

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but I also like leds

tender root Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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which you can easily do in a itx case

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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tru

tender root Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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you just have to find the right one

vague tree Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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and i am picky about it matching with my desk, so im gonna have to figure that one out

vocal talon Aug 30, 2020, 11:24 PM

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evolv shift air is decent for putting leds in

scenic lance Aug 30, 2020, 11:25 PM

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nzxt cases Bruh

vocal talon Aug 30, 2020, 11:26 PM

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lol gl finding a h1 for a good price

chrome iris Aug 30, 2020, 11:34 PM

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get the nzxt h510
it doesnt have rgb but it has eveything you need
@tawdry pollen except airflow
bad bad airflow

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@lunar root I really like the Montech X1 for PC flips, but be aware, the LEDs on the fans cant change or move, and cable management can be tricky. But its got good airflow and 4 included fans so

lunar root Aug 30, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Okay

dim whale Aug 31, 2020, 12:06 AM

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A psu on Amazon with 4.5 stars and 500 reviews it’s a game max 750w any of you know if this is a good psu?

arctic hinge Aug 31, 2020, 3:22 AM

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can anyone recommend a good corsair case that supports aio water cooling

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a mid tower would be preferred

slim venture Aug 31, 2020, 3:33 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/MUSETEX-Mid-Tower-Translúcido-templado-gestión/dp/B07GNGQF8Q/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=musetex+case&qid=1598844680&sr=8-4

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anyone know how to turn on the lights for this B

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my friend got this and cant get the lights on

tawdry pollen Aug 31, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@chrome iris if hes looking into cheaper cases then the nzxt h510 is fine as his components most likely wont get hot anyways. I do realize that it isnt great for airflow, which is why i put a mesh phanteks case above that is cheaper and better

vernal flax Aug 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Will the 3080 need the mininum of 850 watt psu?

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Incoming "we don't know"

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📎 IMG_20200829_172420.jpg

tender sedge Aug 31, 2020, 12:38 PM

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I am interested in this computer at Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ala201/p/N82E16883102972. I have an SSD and a traditional HDD in my old computer and I will need to move them over to the new computer.Will the new computer will be able to take those old two drives in addition to the SDD that it comes with?

winter ridge Aug 31, 2020, 2:06 PM

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It looks like you can mount them in the compartment behind the mobo

tender sedge Aug 31, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@winter ridge Thanks - it looked like it but I would hate to have a nasty surprise.

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With pre-builts I just don't want to make assumptions.

winter ridge Aug 31, 2020, 2:18 PM

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You can see the series of holes to the right of the motherboard that are probably there for mounting. Also, the psu shroud looks like it can accomodate a bracket for two hdd's

willow hollow Aug 31, 2020, 2:19 PM

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as long as the motherboard has the sata ports needed and the psu has some extra sata power cables, it will work with the prebuilt

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idk if the psu has 2 extra sata powers tho

winter ridge Aug 31, 2020, 2:19 PM

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good point Meep

willow hollow Aug 31, 2020, 2:20 PM

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tbh this prebuilt at least has a bronze rated psu

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which doesnt say much, but im hoping its not an oem

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:31 PM

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What's a decent case to keep my 10700k+drp4 and possible 3000 series graphics happy with good airflow? Where I live I can't buy the p400a

willow hollow Aug 31, 2020, 4:32 PM

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TD500 mesh

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@scenic lance p400a can't fit the dpr4 anyways lol

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That's the downside of the case

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TD500 mesh is amazing

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:44 PM

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That one also isn't sold :(

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Where are you

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Guess I'll have to stick with the meshify c and just add another fan

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Poland

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:46 PM

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What about Coolermaster H500

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No suffix

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I have the argb one

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Is it possible to turn the lights off

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Pretty sure

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If you can't that just wouldn't make sense lol

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Kind of ugly tho

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And expensive

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How about the phanteks eclipse p500a drgb

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Not ugly imo, I like a thicc boi, if it's more than like 130usd equivalent, too expensive

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P500a should be good, haven't looked into it yet tho

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Check CPU cooler clearance

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:51 PM

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190mm should be enough right

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It's personal preference but I like less angular chunky stuff and more black colors

tender root Aug 31, 2020, 4:54 PM

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190mm should be plenty

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perhaps have a look at what Fractal Design offers in the Define range @scenic lance

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Those are my favorite but unfortunately gamers nexus (which I use to see if a case if good) trashes those for their airflow

tender root Aug 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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some of them yes

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and as always, it depends on what you want

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and it also strongly depends on "does it actually matter"

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its quite easy to make a chart that shows that X is worse than Y

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but what that tells you, is that only in "that" particular setup is that the result

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Well I don't really have any other basis to know if the thing will be too toasty with my 10700k and next gen graphics in it

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I agree that reviews tend to dismiss everything that isn't "the best"

elfin trout Aug 31, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Do remember middle of the list for GN is good, and they only do fan normalised (2 front 1 back) and stock config, some Cases do better with more

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Hmm. Yeah because before I asked here I was considering the meshify c and just adding a noctua nf-s12a 120mm fan in the front

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But it seems to be lower on his lists

tiny olive Aug 31, 2020, 5:03 PM

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opinions on the nzxt h510i cuz i think its great

tender root Aug 31, 2020, 5:03 PM

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he is good at what he does, but he isnt the ultimate font of knowledge.

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do keep that in mind

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Sure, but he knows more than me lol

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Looks great but by the looks also a bit tight airflow wise

tender root Aug 31, 2020, 5:06 PM

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true as that might be, there are thousands of systems built and running just fine in cases that he rates poorly

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Yeah. But my build will have a 10700k which runs warm and a really fat air cooler which needs good air flow
I could be wrong tho

tender root Aug 31, 2020, 5:09 PM

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see what i said above

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I just don't like guessing
If I get a case I don't like I'm screwed so I need reviews

tiny olive Aug 31, 2020, 5:18 PM

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mabye nzxt cases

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they are made well and look good

vocal tartan Aug 31, 2020, 5:20 PM

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td 500 mesh

scenic lance Aug 31, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah I mentioned early my store doesn't have that one

sweet ibex Aug 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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if you dont care about the price, is the o11 dynamic better or the o11 dynamic xl?

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:16 PM

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hey quick question

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what is the difference between the supernova 850 G+ and the 850 GA?

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-ga-220-ga-0850-x1-850w/p/1HU-00J7-004V4?Item=1HU-00J7-004V4&SortField=1&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-g1-120-gp-0850-x1-850w/p/N82E16817438133?Item=N82E16817438133

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I did notice that the GA just got released this year

random peak Aug 31, 2020, 7:19 PM

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idk but it looks like eco mode is new

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:22 PM

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eh guess I'll go with the G+ since it's tried and true

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I see some people getting bad luck with it but I'll take a chance

random peak Aug 31, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i wouldnt go with a possibly bad psu

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thats one part u should never cheap out on

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:24 PM

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a few reviews say it died but that was about like 3 people amongst 20

random peak Aug 31, 2020, 7:25 PM

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thats 15%

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thats really high

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:25 PM

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well lol xact numbers are 11%

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damn ur right hmm

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13% on the GA as well

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rip

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it's EVGA though :\

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thought they were known to have good psus

random peak Aug 31, 2020, 7:26 PM

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i mean that number could be off bc its more likely that the ppl with the bad ones left a review

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evga is usually pretty good tho

chrome iris Aug 31, 2020, 7:28 PM

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also, when people review stuff, chances are they're gonna review if they had a problem
"this product works fine. dont see any issues" - forgets to review
"This product failed on me" - bad review time

nova oar Aug 31, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Also as a lot of people say go model over brand

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Any brand can make a bad model of something

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I went with the 850 G+, thanks all!

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Even if I manage to get a faulty one (which does seem rare overall), both newegg and EVGA are really helpful as it does turn out 🙂

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:36 PM

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G+ isnt ideal tbh

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If you need a 850w PSU your PC will be costing over 2.5k

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at which point lots of money can go towards a truly good PSU

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G+ overall is just meh, and an objectively bad 850w unit more or less

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:40 PM

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would you recommend a different one?

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i'm looking at those shipped from the US/Newegg

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I did already order mine lol

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not sure if i can cancel or edit at this point

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Firstly about whether you actually need an 850w unit and to give perspective on just how little people need on average, you can run a stock 3950x+2080Ti on a good 550w. If basic OCing then 650w. Major OCing with watercooling + XOC vBOIS + etc then 850w.

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:43 PM

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planning on grabbing a 30 series card

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:43 PM

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As for what 850w unit I'd go for
https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0?Item=1HU-0042-000R0

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:43 PM

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specifically a 3090 (so I wouldn't have to upgrade for at least a few good years)

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I really doubt the 3090 will consume 600w

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with a 120w CPU + 70w rest of system, basically total of 800w PSU

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:45 PM

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ty

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:46 PM

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You have a 99.99% chance of being just fine on a 650w PSU with a 3090 I'd say

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but, as they say...

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101029157797899/750069819331706931/Screenshot_20200831-133149.png

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as that will really say whether you need a 850w PSU or not

pliant girder Aug 31, 2020, 7:48 PM

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is that a meme? lmao

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I don't get it

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either way I appreciate the advice/input ❤️

lofty pewter Aug 31, 2020, 7:49 PM

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somewhat of a meme. But basically no one can truly say "oh you need this" or "oh you need that" until actual testing is done with real reviews

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and no problemo

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glad to help

willow hollow Aug 31, 2020, 8:39 PM

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ayy i made it into the pic pog

golden kestrel Aug 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Lol

echo mango Sep 1, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Hey who has tried

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Thermaltake Tower 900 Black Edition Tempered Glass Fully Modular E-ATX Vertical Super Tower Computer Chassis CA-1H1-00F1WN-00

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?

hot lily Sep 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Anyone know why my case had a little metal peg pre-installed in one of the holes where I need to put one of the standoff things

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I just unscrewed it and put the standoff in its place

tender root Sep 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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@hot lily its a centering piece

hot lily Sep 1, 2020, 1:39 PM

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What's that do

tender root Sep 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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keep the mainboard centered when installing it

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that is all it does

hot lily Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Do I leave it there or should I remove it so I can actually have that spot screwed in

tender root Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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your choice

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IF you remove it, you should ofc put in a normal standoff

hot lily Sep 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Yeah that's what I did

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but my stuff won't post so I was wondering if that might have done something bad

tender root Sep 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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it is not generally connected to POST issues

hot lily Sep 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Sweet

eager monolith Sep 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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outer spoke Sep 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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what companies would you guys recommend for psus?

compact prawn Sep 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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hard to recomend specific companies, but there is a really good tier list based on reliability you can look at

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linustechtips psu tier list, just look that up

random peak Sep 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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evga and corsair are my picks for psu

tender root Sep 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@outer spoke look in the channel pins :)

simple nymph Sep 1, 2020, 6:33 PM

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i7-10700k and rtx 3080 with corsair rm850x psu fine?

outer spoke Sep 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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after looking at the tier list i think an rmx 850 is the one ill go for

simple nymph Sep 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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pog

elfin trout Sep 1, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@outer spoke model > brand

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Also, I have a list of good PSUs I go by, lemme find it for you

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHGPMc

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vocal talon Sep 1, 2020, 7:26 PM

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modelvbrand

elfin trout Sep 1, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Check that selection, some of the best PSUs on the market including RMx

scenic lance Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Can someone help me pick out how many watts I should get

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PfNxn7

System Builder

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My gpu will be a 3090

elfin trout Sep 1, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Oh gawd what's with that storage setup

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I'm gonna suggest 850w just in case, and for nice efficiency.

vocal talon Sep 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yeah get a 850w psu and 2tb nvme+2tb hard drive instead

scenic lance Sep 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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what bout 1tb nvme

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and 3tb hardrive

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or 2 if u dont need a tb

wooden anchor Sep 1, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Quick question. If the desktop I'm setting up turns on (without pressing the case power button) as soon as the PSU is switched on, is it the mobo or the PSU that's messed up? Anyone ever have this problem?

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Does anyone know if a 3090 is compatible with the td500 mesh. Ik the length is good but idk about the width

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nQJkcf/corsair-hx-platinum-1000w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020139-na

Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX...

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^ is that psu compatible with the 3090

tender root Sep 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

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in theory, yes.

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as for X card being compatible with Y case? Go and look up the numbers for each model :)

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it will be very clear for you then

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I can’t find the gpu width clearance for the td500

tender root Sep 2, 2020, 12:17 AM

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look at the CPU clearance

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those numbers are generally very close

silk urchin Sep 2, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Hey guys, wondering should i upgrade my PSU its 10+ years old https://www.exxactcorp.com/Thermaltake-TR-700-E153861 Pc specs are 2 x 27inch monitors - rtx 2060 - ryzen 7 2700 - 2 SSD's & 1 HDD - - like have psu's advanced so far ahead to the point of making a 2020 500w powersupply better then my current one?

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scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Why is this psu so cheap?

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elfin trout Sep 2, 2020, 2:19 AM

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CHEAP????

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@scenic lance you know most consumer PSUs at reasonable wattages like 850w are ~140$

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Yea but for 1000w , isn’t $226 a bit cheap?

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Also that psu is 80+ platinum

lofty pewter Sep 2, 2020, 2:23 AM

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not really, ~$220 price point is usually the cheapest good 1000w PSU and has been for quite some time

tropic dune Sep 2, 2020, 2:54 AM

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what PSU is suggested for the new Nvidia GPUs?

vocal talon Sep 2, 2020, 3:08 AM

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nvidia suggests a 650w for the 3070 and 750w for the 3080/3090, but you can probably go 100w under and be fine

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id still get a solid 750w for the 3090 tho cause if ur gonna spend 1500 on a gpu 30 more on the psu wont kill you

tropic dune Sep 2, 2020, 3:08 AM

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yeah i have a 650W gold, so was curious

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i was planning a 3070 myself

vernal flax Sep 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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so if i get a 750W psu i should be fine with a 3080?

lofty pewter Sep 2, 2020, 3:22 AM

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eh, a PSU that beats the Enermax DF 650w in quality and wattage is a fair bit of money, I usually put that money towards other things

vernal flax Sep 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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i was gonna get a EVGA 750W gold +

static sigil Sep 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Any suggestions for a 3600 and RTX 3070 build?

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I don't know my PSUs very well, so imma depend on yall

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Is the psu in the pic I put earlier compatible with a 3090

proven token Sep 2, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I mean, don't look for PSU choices now when your GPU isn't out until October

static sigil Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 AM

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October is in a month @proven token

proven token Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Exactly

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Ask in a month

static sigil Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 AM

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what

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So what if it's in a month

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If I'm worried about the price changing that much, I would get a list

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And then go for the cheapest one at the moment

simple nymph Sep 2, 2020, 11:19 AM

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3080 releases sept 17 tho

solemn pond Sep 2, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Usually best way to buy a pc is all at once unless you are very good at hunting bargains

elfin trout Sep 2, 2020, 11:47 AM

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And have ways of testing the parts

solemn pond Sep 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Right, it sucks to get a DOA stick of RAM and not be able to return it because you waited another 3 months to finish your build

cobalt violet Sep 2, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Hey I have a question about the lian li 011d

simple nymph Sep 2, 2020, 1:49 PM

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what about it?

dreamy wolf Sep 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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anyone know if 600w will be good for 3070?

simple nymph Sep 2, 2020, 5:36 PM

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should atleast get a 650w prob

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i think it was the recommended

chrome iris Sep 2, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I bet a good 600w will be ok

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Ahem.
good

magic haven Sep 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

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600w should be good enough

shrewd ingot Sep 2, 2020, 7:21 PM

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is 600w good for ryzen 5 1600 and a 1080?

chrome iris Sep 2, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@shrewd ingot make and model?
There are good 600w, and bad 600w.
And i mean model btw. Not brand
"EVGA" gives me like no info lol

shrewd ingot Sep 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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evga 600 80+

chrome iris Sep 2, 2020, 7:37 PM

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this one?

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📎 100-W1-0600-K1_MD_1.png

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just btw model for this one is "600 W1"
Thats what i meant

shrewd ingot Sep 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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EVGA BR Series 600W 80+ Bronze Power Supply

chrome iris Sep 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yeah, it'll power it fine. Not the best PSU ever, but, i guess itll work for a 1080

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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You guys think I could stay with my cx550 for a 3070? would have a r5 3600 paired with it

elfin trout Sep 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I would think so

chrome iris Sep 2, 2020, 7:49 PM

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hopefully

scenic lance Sep 2, 2020, 7:49 PM

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right now I have it paired with a 5700 card that has a 225w tdp so I would think it would be fine but i’m no expert

static sigil Sep 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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What's your guy's opinions on the RM 2019 650 gold from corsair

elfin trout Sep 3, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Nice PSU

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Should be priced <125$ usd

static sigil Sep 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Alright, thanks

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That works well with my budget then

still pollen Sep 3, 2020, 4:07 AM

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between EVGA and Seasonic, which PSU is better ?

vernal flax Sep 3, 2020, 4:33 AM

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will my current psu work with the 3080 as long as it meets the wattage usage?

static sigil Sep 3, 2020, 6:57 AM

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@vernal flax probably would help to tell us which one you have

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@still pollen what

vernal flax Sep 3, 2020, 7:00 AM

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evga 750w gold+

scenic lance Sep 3, 2020, 10:15 AM

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What are some good aios that I can top mount in a meshify c?

elfin trout Sep 3, 2020, 10:37 AM

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@still pollen

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modelbrand

green crest Sep 3, 2020, 12:25 PM

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@vernal flax 750W is recommended by Nvidia for that card. Most likely, the 750W will suffice... Unless you got some serious hardware I'm unaware of. You got a build sheet?

vernal flax Sep 3, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I have 189 watts unalready, plus the 320 from the 3080. So 509 watts in total

elfin garnet Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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not the best power supply

compact prawn Sep 3, 2020, 7:27 PM

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@scenic lance somewhere where you got the case there should be specs or a diagram saying the amount of space for fans to be top mounted, usually an aio will take up 120, 240, or 360mm you just have to see which size your case allows

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nvm the meshify c can have a 240 mm on top

scenic lance Sep 3, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I'm more concerned about the height it will allow so it doesn't hit the motherboard parts

compact prawn Sep 3, 2020, 7:29 PM

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ohh, i see well honestly the best thing i would suggest is to literally measure the top of your ram sticks to the top of your case. and then use that to gauge the width of your radiator

scenic lance Sep 3, 2020, 7:29 PM

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See the thing is I haven't bought it all yet :)

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Waiting on the new gpus

compact prawn Sep 3, 2020, 7:33 PM

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ah

tender root Sep 3, 2020, 7:33 PM

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there is normally either a machine drawing OR clearance numbers listed (in all dimensions) on the more reputable case models

compact prawn Sep 3, 2020, 7:34 PM

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he means the actual motherboard components themselves though, like ram might block his AIO

elfin trout Sep 3, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Td500 mesh allows 360mm on top

scenic lance Sep 3, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I've started looking more at the meshify s2 in the last few hours and it seems to allow some good clearance bc the top radiator slots are kind of offset away from the mobo

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So I should be good adding a fractals s36 or something up there

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My store doesn't have the td500

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 10:17 PM

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beyond the o11 family, and the giant phanteks cases, what are other recentish cases with solid watercooling support? Looking to mount 2x 280 and either a 360 or a 420

elfin trout Sep 3, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@fossil cliff well, very few cases will support 3 240mm+ rads

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Usually, it's the front and top, the back would only be a single 120/140mm

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O11 allows for another as it has side fan spots

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2x360mm is supported by a good amount of cases though.

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I have an air 740, and I'm pretty sure I can't fit 2x280 and a 360 inside. I'd have to have the 360 outside the front

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wish more companies made dual chamber cases

elfin trout Sep 3, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Why do you need 3 rads actually?

vocal talon Sep 3, 2020, 10:26 PM

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fractal might have one lemme check

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 10:27 PM

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because I already bought 2 NIB on local market, and I promised myself my next build would go full custom loop

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no actual practical reason

vocal talon Sep 3, 2020, 10:28 PM

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define 7 can do a 420 on top, 360 in front, and 280 on bottom https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7-dark-tempered-glass/black/

Fractal Design

Define 7 Dark Tempered Glass — Fractal Design

The Define 7 is the latest pinnacle of the renowned Define series, setting a new standard for what you should expect from a mid-tower case when it comes to modularity, flexibility and ease of use.

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 10:35 PM

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interesting. looking at the manual, a 360 in the front will block a full length rad in the top or bottom

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but might be able to do a 280 front, 360/420 top, and 280 bottom

scenic lance Sep 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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That's a big boi

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Love the define looks, just wish the airflow was good

oblique lark Sep 3, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Hard to beat the Lian Li Xl when it comes to water cooling

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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but everyone has one 😛

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and I built the wife her new pc in an 011 knockoff, so we already have one of those in the house

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time to read reviews on the define 7, see if the thermals are okay or not

fossil cliff Sep 3, 2020, 11:47 PM

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so depending on how you have the front panel set up, it's either one of the worst cases, or one of the best cases. door open and filter removed is over 15 C cooler than filter in and door closed

willow hollow Sep 4, 2020, 2:49 AM

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can someone reccomend me a good 750w ish psu? I'm going to be using the 2080 super and want to keep a reasonable upgrade path

chrome iris Sep 4, 2020, 3:10 AM

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RMx

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nice

willow hollow Sep 4, 2020, 3:48 AM

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thats like 150 right

tropic dune Sep 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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bought my white o11 Dynamic b/c it reminded me of the inside of an Empire facility (Star Destroyer, Death Star, Detention facility), now everyone and their mom has one it seems lol

random peak Sep 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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yep

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i just built in mine today. theres plenty of space for cable management but fan cables are hectic bc theyre coming from 3 different sides

hexed monolith Sep 4, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Hey do any of y’all have the fractal meshify c case. If you do, what do you think about it?

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 1:40 PM

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i have a little question if anyone can help, I am building an itx build to take to college and PSU prices are not okay right now so is a 650W gold sufficient for a system with a 594W power draw plus overclocking
I am not trying to spend 300 on a 750W

light wyvern Sep 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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wats the system

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@chrome iris

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wats the psu more impoortantly

chrome iris Sep 4, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Yeah what’s the system. Cpu+GPU?

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 3:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YnzVhg
can someone recommend me a case for this build that won't run too hot?i don't plan on doing very much overclocking.

System Builder

random peak Sep 4, 2020, 3:33 PM

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how much do u wanna spend on a case?

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:33 PM

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@cerulean oriole look at seasonic 750 80+ gold full modular its 170$ cad at the moment or u can get semi modular for 135$ cad

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@random peak 80-120$ depends on rgb

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Nzxt h510 is great

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:34 PM

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@lethal yacht i dont think thats sfx

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 3:34 PM

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ill spend whatever it takes to get a nice balanced case lol

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Oh u want sfx why

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 3:34 PM

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just need a few options bc they dont have everythign in my store where i live

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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because im in an itx case

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Nzxt h210 supports atx psu

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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im not building in an h210

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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And it’s itx form factor

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What case

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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im building in an NR200

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by coolermaster

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:37 PM

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What’s ur budget

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:38 PM

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well for just the psu my max is 180

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that fractal 650 is the only option really

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:40 PM

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No but it makes absolutely no sense to go with that case and buy an overpriced psu

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:40 PM

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because its the only psu

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Unless ur spending 2000$+

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Is the case nr200 non nogotiable

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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already ordered

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Hmm

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One sec

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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h210 is too big

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dan a4 is too expensive

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:42 PM

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What’s r spec ur putting inside

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:42 PM

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ncase m1 too expensive

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3800x kraken x52 b550 2 m.2 3080 when released and 32gb 3600

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:43 PM

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R all these parts ordered

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:44 PM

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im taking them out of my old case except for the 3080 obv

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Ok

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:44 PM

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just needed a smaller case

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Well if u got a wattage estimate at 600 watts then a 650 gold should do it because that estimate is based on all parts working at full load which is not realistic unless ur stress testing ur gpu and cpu at the exact same time and with ur 3800x is just forget over lock it doesn’t do a whole lot on Ryzen and it’s basically an already over locked 3700x

cerulean oriole Sep 4, 2020, 3:48 PM

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i have noticed a difference when overclocking while rendering but yes for gaming there is no difference

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i was planning on an undervolt with no oc tho so if that means 600 at full load ill be set

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Ya I heard about the under undervolt thing and ya you’ll be fine

fiery dune Sep 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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any cheaper alternatives to this case that you guys can think of https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-core-p3-tg-atx-open-frame-chassis/p/N82E16811133372?Item=N82E16811133372&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-zVNaLXLGUAMAYww2NvPWHw

lethal yacht Sep 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Cool case it’s like a test bench

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Not sure what kinda case ur looking for but

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DEEPCOOL MATREXX 70 ADD-RGB 3F Mid-Tower

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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What's this?

📎 PicsArt_09-04-07.39.07.jpg

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I think it's called like a "beauty strip" or something

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It's for hiding cables

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Behind that slanted part at the top?

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@scenic lance it's hard to tell from the picture, but there's usually like an inch between the entire strip and the back of the case

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Oh ok

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These nzxt cases and their "beauty" lol

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Heh

fiery dune Sep 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I have that case

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it's good but I've had better cases

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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What's wrong with it

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Best one I've found when it comes to thermals/looks/noise balance

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Thermals lol @scenic lance

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Looks is the only thing it has afaik

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Gamers nexus gave it decent benchmarks for temps

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Decent?

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Going by the h510 elite review from a while ago, it was like last 20% of the graphs

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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It's a h710

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Idk about the h710, all I know is h510 thermals sucked

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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They probably do lol this is a different case

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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H710 still kinda sucks relatively

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Less sucky than h510

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2020-09-04-21-59-04-566_com.brave.browser.jpg

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It's almost at the top of the list lol

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I look at general case torture not specific loads but it's not good in terms of thermals.

📎 Screenshot_20200904-160129.png

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It's less sucky than h510 and such but

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I wouldn't call it good

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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It's within like 3 or 4 degrees of the better cases

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It's above average obviously

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Which is within 3 degrees of the worse cases

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It is average from what I see

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Nah the worse cases are more than 3

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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And the best is more than 3

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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So anyway I meant I well balanced in all these things

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I think it's just average, airflow is not a selling point

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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And better than the meshify s2 I was looking at before

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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At least it's not h510 where it's a downside

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But it's not an upside imo

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Good enough for most people I'm sure

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If GN says it's good, I'll say it's good

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Of course, but we're comparing cases so we have to be nitpicky

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I agree with what GN says.
"It’s not the best-cooled chassis in the world, but it has SOME ventilation and it comes with four fans, and those four fans go a long way towards making up for the flat steel front panel. "

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Exactly

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Yea

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So it's not crap like h510

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But it's not the best

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Never said it was the best

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Said it was pretty decent

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Top 40% on that chart

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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You said "best one I found" at the start..?

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Best one I've found when it comes to thermals/looks/noise balance
@scenic lance

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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:p

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I ignore looks sooo

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Like what GN says,
"above that, there are cases like the various Cooler Master mesh-front H500s and the Lian Li O11 Dynamic that are cheaper, look just as distinctive, and perform as well or better."

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Yeah it's like a 1-2 degree difference at that point

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Mhm

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:12 PM

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And with this one I got 4 installed fans and don't have to get anymore

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:12 PM

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As I said,

Of course, but we're comparing cases so we have to be nitpicky
@elfin trout

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The thermal chart we were going off of were all with stock fan config, ignoring normalised fan

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yeah. Not looking to add fans if I don't need to

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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So yea, I'm gonna keep disagreeing about that case being the best

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But at least it isn't a h510

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Or the other 60% of that list below it lol

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Eh, those aren't really mainstream nowadays

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Only the best ones are mainstream?

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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As in, I don't see them on the market and they're half a decade old

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Way I see it GN recommended p400a as one of the best airflow cases and it's almost the same temp as the h710. So it seems good

elfin trout Sep 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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"almost" is the key there :D

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Yeah. Almost as good as the best airflow case

vocal talon Sep 4, 2020, 8:23 PM

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:v theres more than a case than just airflow

scenic lance Sep 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Yeah

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Like looks ¯_(ツ)_/¯ which I guess I care for too

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The sl600m in that list has the best temp but on GNs review of it he says it has "the best and worst" thermals
So that's why it's so hard for me to pick.

vocal talon Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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cool little community project, rtx 3000 compatibility with ncase m1 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E94FbF5jPqeyPATUQOTzgY82_sJUpEWIsZKHQI0dIhg/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

Nvidia RTX 3000 in NCase M1

Intro

Welcome. This page serves as a comprehensive compatibility overview for the new RTX 3000 series in de NCase M1. My personal stake is that I juist bought a NCase M1, before knowing that the new cards would be this powerhungry. I was planning to do a deschroud mod on a 30...

surreal magnet Sep 5, 2020, 10:32 PM

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YES

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http://gsearch.gmarket.co.kr/Listview/Search?keyword=dla22

Gmarket-Korean No.1 Shopping Site, Hottest, Trendy, Lowest Price, W...

Internet Shopping Mall, Auction, Bargaining, Discount Coupon, Event, Gstamp, Gift certificate

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ive found where i can order it

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oof 21 dollars in shipping

vocal talon Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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@surreal magnet u live in korea?

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wait is that like the only place u can buy it cause there like no info on that thing at all

surreal magnet Sep 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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ikr

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its not even on darkflash's website

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all i can find are a ton of youtube videos and forums all in korean about this case

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so its a real thing, just only sold in korea, and i finally found a korean site like alibaba that does international shipping

vocal talon Sep 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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icic

surreal magnet Sep 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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heres a work in progress list

📎 Capture.PNG

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cpu and mobo choice are up in the air obv, but together thats only 100 dollars more than the 3900x and a comparable am4 board

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soo

vocal talon Sep 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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hm x299

surreal magnet Sep 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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duh i want the mobo ive been admiring for a few years now lmao

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trust me these parts all together are all gonna look sick

willow hollow Sep 6, 2020, 2:21 AM

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the korean case market is so much better

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than the US one

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like TD500 mesh equivalent for around 50$ ish

halcyon grotto Sep 6, 2020, 4:07 AM

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boys picking up the mesh lian li case at my local B&H what do you guys think?

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oh i cant send pictures

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but its the lian li lancool 2 mesh

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for about 119

surreal magnet Sep 6, 2020, 4:49 AM

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oh, so i cant buy the case cuz of covid

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the site no longer ships to like 50 countries for now

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im so angry

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its gonna be a year before i can order it

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 5:18 AM

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@surreal magnet

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Is it the dlm model?

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You put dla so idk if it was a typo

surreal magnet Sep 6, 2020, 5:18 AM

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no i meant DLA22

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Hm weird

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I only see dlm

surreal magnet Sep 6, 2020, 5:19 AM

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look harder

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Oh

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Wow

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I see

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📎 image0.png

dreamy wolf Sep 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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would this be a good psu for 3070?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq8j4D/evga-supernova-gm-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-123-gm-0650-y1

EVGA SuperNOVA GM 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power ...

finite meadow Sep 6, 2020, 3:04 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VyL4K4 Ive currently got this setup going but I want a smaller form factor. Can anyone recommend a good micro-atx MB and Case?

System Builder

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@finite meadow

finite meadow Sep 6, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@magic haven

scenic lance Sep 6, 2020, 7:07 PM

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alright so

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where could I put it. And also since it constantly runs when the pc is booted I can't really not mount it cause if my case moves the fan is going to go in different directions and interact with wires and all kinds of problems..

tawdry pollen Sep 6, 2020, 7:08 PM

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raelly?

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i really dont know sorry

scenic lance Sep 6, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Well it's a 44mm fan, and you only find mounting spaces for those at old cases

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And I'm trying to get a new one

tawdry pollen Sep 6, 2020, 7:09 PM

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if its connected with a pin connector to the psu just unplug it

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but if its not then idk

scenic lance Sep 6, 2020, 7:09 PM

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:/

tawdry pollen Sep 6, 2020, 7:09 PM

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sorry

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@magic haven
@finite meadow go to build chat

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Rq

finite meadow Sep 6, 2020, 7:12 PM

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My bad

magic haven Sep 6, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Nono

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I just need to talk to you

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You did nothing wrong

scenic lance Sep 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Guys I need your opinion. Which one is the best? The Thermaltake View 27 or the SilentiumPC Signum SG1V EVO

surreal magnet Sep 7, 2020, 1:14 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200906-2113562.png

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whooooo

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now I don't have to order it from Korea and pay 30 in shipping lmaooo

elfin trout Sep 7, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Neweggs

visual oar Sep 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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How many watts psu should I get for a 3080?

left lion Sep 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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@visual oar Nvidia strongly recommends at least a 750 watt PSU. That should be more than enough for your whole build, since the 3080 has a TDP of 320W

visual oar Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Oh ok thank you

lunar root Sep 7, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Well okay then

📎 image0.png

surreal magnet Sep 7, 2020, 3:32 PM

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cmon kenzie stop wasting their time lmaoo

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mocking

hot knot Sep 7, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Hello guys,
I'm just asking if 750w gold is enough for 3080/i9-10900k
Thank you in advance

scenic lance Sep 7, 2020, 7:51 PM

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yea

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go for 850 thou

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but 750 should be good enough

elfin trout Sep 7, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yes

willow hollow Sep 7, 2020, 8:10 PM

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if u want heavy overclocking maybe not

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but otherwise yea

brave cosmos Sep 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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anyone know a really good case

ocean thunder Sep 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@brave cosmos https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353196?Item=N82E16811353196# for the $$$

brave cosmos Sep 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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thanks

elfin trout Sep 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@ocean thunder why tho

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Why not a P300a

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Or say focus g

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Or say mx330-g

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The case looks like crap in terms of cooling

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Free 120gb ssd isn't very encouraging

teal creek Sep 7, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Having some trouble finding this in the pins https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-GD-0700-V1/dp/B07W956JBC/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=750w%2Bpower%2Bsupply&qid=1599518674&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A16955319011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906986011&rnid=6525659011&s=pc&sprefix=750w%2B&sr=1-8&th=1&psc=1

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Is it any good?

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:25 AM

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recommendations for budget psus for the new 30 series

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Depends on the card

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:26 AM

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3070

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:26 AM

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And what they actually pan out to be

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Wait for people to get their hands on them 🙃

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:26 AM

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good idea i should probably do that

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Though all you'll really need to wait for is the spec sheet for that

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TDP, recommended PSU wattage, and power connectors

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:28 AM

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wasnt that released with the reveal of the 30 series?

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Then compare that with prospective PSU specs, and determine that way

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No not really

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:28 AM

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huh

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yeah ill just wair

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Nvm there is on the website 🙃

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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yeah thats what i thought XD

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Full specs button

NVIDIA

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Graphics Card

The AI Revolution has Come to Gaming

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Down at the bottom

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Am on mobile expecting no power for using desktop OS so I can't see the desktop webpage peepoSadSip

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So you need a 650W PSU with at least 1 8 pin connector according to the spec

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Vroom

lapis spear Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 AM

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hmm

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i will settle with an 850

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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850w is heavy OC territory. Can easily go with standard 3090 (2x8p design) and 3950x all stock on a 650w PSU

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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The 550w principle has evolved 😭

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I mean if lower end mobo, ram, not much load on USB ports, and not much storage - so basically average gaming unit, you're probs fine on 550w. But I'll wait and see on that

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Rocking a i9-9900k, and I’ll be purchasing the 3080 likely when it comes out. My current psu is not the best because my other one didn’t come in on time (got lost in transit) so I had to buy one from a local Best Buy that isn’t the best. Unfortunately, it’s only 700w, and it isn’t modular. Also only 80 plus (white).

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That being said, recommendations on a new psu?

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I’m not sure if I should go ahead and go 1000w+ platinum/gold or what. thanks fellas

young osprey Sep 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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You can get an evga b-stock 650w 80+ gold for about 85$

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I think the 3080 recommends 750w though, so I’m not sure if it’d negatively effect it if I only have 700w, don’t really wanna chance it

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Also, I have a liquid cooler for my CPU, but currently mounted on the back of the case. Thinking I should move it to the front but I’m not sure on that either pepeLaugh

vocal tree Sep 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Is it a Thermaltake smart

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Yeah it is

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lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:04 AM

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...
No...
Never do that again.
TT Smart 80+ is the worst PSU to be in a high end system. Lacks good protections and can basically cause a fire or short the entire PC on failure. Luckily failure rate isnt much higher then decent models. But almost every failure that does happens is quite bad

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:04 AM

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thanossad

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great

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good thing I’m buying another

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Luckily I’ve only had it for ~1 month

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Also 850w is plenty for a lot of OC headroom with those parts

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Do you recommend Corsair or what other brand? And should I go with gold or bronze or platinum or does it matter?

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Brand, rating, or wattage don't say much about actual quality of a PSU. So I dislike going by those metrics.
The 650w/850w models that I find are nicely priced and pretty good in quality is Enermax Revolution DF.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX ...

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Awesome. thanks a bunch bongoTap

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I’m guessing thermaltake liquid cooler is bad too then pepeLaugh

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Which cooler is it? Smth smth liquid 3.0?

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:11 AM

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It does well, keeps the cpu at ~25c°

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idle, when pushed it goes to around 35c I should note

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Water 3.0 is a good series, but 120mm is quite bad. Won't cool a 9900k at full load well, esp on OC

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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240 min in large cpu cooling

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Had the 360mm I think but wouldn’t fit in my case so sent it back, did the same thing, just bought what they had in stock at Best Buy

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Mid tower case

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First build

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Don’t kill me

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lmao

lofty pewter Sep 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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What about 280mm? about same cooling perf as 360mm

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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280 would be my go to. quiet and great performance. best of both worlds

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Nice. Should that go on the front of the case? I have 3 fans currently installed on the front that came preinstalled, but could probably take those off and replace with the cpu cooler

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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depends on the rad support of the case

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what case

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:19 AM

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The Corsair icue 220t

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Lots of rgb, never could get it to work though lmao

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:20 AM

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says it can fit a 280mm

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:21 AM

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So with the 3080 and it’s air path, should the cooler go on front of case or on the top? Just kinda sketched out about putting it on top of all that hot air is going to blow straight up

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:21 AM

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well. the 240mm can fit in the top from what i can see. meaning that would be the most efficient for removal of heat

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if you want more cpu cooling power than a 280 in the front would do that

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it would slightly heat the interior but probably not enough to matter a ton

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so really what type of AIO depends on what your more worried about keeping cool

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:23 AM

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yeah, not real sure honestly

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not sure how cool the FE 3080 is gonna run

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:24 AM

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wont know till testing

ruby oak Sep 8, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yep, it’s unfortunate, but we’ll see. Thanks for all the help love_it

sacred latch Sep 8, 2020, 4:25 AM

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np

outer spoke Sep 8, 2020, 5:31 AM

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was looking at that psu and its on the tier list

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but it also says how pre 2018 had problems if i were to order off amazon would i like be 100% getting one made post 2018

simple nymph Sep 8, 2020, 11:24 AM

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with an i7-10k and rtx 3080 at ~575w should i get corsair rm750x gold or rm850x gold

elfin trout Sep 8, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Depending on the price difference

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If it's like 125$ vs 135$, might as well RM850x

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But iirc it's like 125$ vs 165$ right now

frank spade Sep 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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anyone have a good white itx under 100 bucks

tender root Sep 8, 2020, 5:44 PM

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fractal design node304 white @frank spade

frank spade Sep 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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k thx

latent escarp Sep 9, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Hello I am not sure who to message...I am having trouble with my PSU. the fan turns on when the computer is off and fan turns off when the computer is off. Can you please help?

lament veldt Sep 9, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Anybody have any experience using a rosewill hive 1000 watt psu?

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@latent escarp that is rlly an interesting case, even though im not like a expert on psus, but logically, i rlly dont think ur fan should be on when ur computer is off, cause assuming your power switch connector and everything is right, the motherboard should not be powering the fan at all

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sry that i didnt rlly provide you with a solution

random peak Sep 9, 2020, 8:24 PM

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sometimes mobos draw power when off

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mine lights up unless my psu is off

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but a fan is really weird

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my guess would be that the mobo/fan has a 0rpm mode and thats why it turns off when the pc tuns on. as for being on while the pc is off, I think its something like a screwed up version of what i have.

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:26 PM

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^^

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:52 PM

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SFF cases with ATX PSU support suggestions? I'm kinda liking the $150 Silverstone Raven (the one with the RGB on it)

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(pls tag me if you say something, else i wont see it)

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:55 PM

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@vague tree do you have the exact model name?

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:55 PM

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"SilverStone Technology Slim Computer Case for Mini-Itx Motherboards with Integrated Addressable RGB Lighting (SST-RVZ03B-ARGB-USA)"

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https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Motherboards-Addressable-SST-RVZ03B-ARGB-USA/dp/B07WDFLTMG/ref=sr_1_17

latent escarp Sep 9, 2020, 8:55 PM

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@placid sierra https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-photon-1200-continuous-1200w-40-degrees-celsius/p/N82E16817182320R?Item=N82E16817182320R&utm_medium=TraEmail&utm_source=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US&cm_mmc=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US-_-index-_-product-link-_-17-182-320R

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@vague tree looks pretty good to me, just make sure all ur other components are compatible with it

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Yep, was doing all that last night

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:58 PM

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fits well in ur budget?

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Mhm! I'm getting a B550i motherboard soon to go with it, and just moving my PC into it

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My RTX 2060 KO seems to be a fine size, and it will support FE 3070 size

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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nicee

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Yessirrr

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The main caveat I have is that there's no 3.5" drive support

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BUT

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that's not hard to overcome

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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yea fs, well, good luck on your build

vague tree Sep 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Thanks man!

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We have the same specs pretty much

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except my 2060 is the ko ult

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 9:02 PM

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yep

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:27 PM

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probably wrong chat but pcpartpicker.com/list/pPPcdm any way to save a few bucks?

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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@mortal mantle 2 things, you can just use normal links :)

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and here is an updated suggestion https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tDGWb

System Builder

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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how?

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@mortal mantle cheaper ram

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without rgb

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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just paste in the link

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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pcpartpicker.com/list/pPPcdm any way to save a few bucks?****

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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and you dont need a samsung ssd

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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copy it from the browser :)

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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i did it b4 and a bot shamed me

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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samsung ssds are overpriced

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@tawdry pollen see the updated list

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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im checking out rn

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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and notice that there are parts that are already purchased.

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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oh hmmm

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ok i guess thats fine

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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i might be able to sell the storage

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unopened

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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you can get a 2tb hard drive too

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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im planning on it, yeah

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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just return it if you have not opened it

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simple as that.

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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its been like a month tho

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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talk with the seller.

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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idk how microcenter deals with that

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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but as you asked for, there is a list that shaves a fair deal off

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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oh hey you're in this chat, I'll say it again, cheaper ram and mobo

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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yeah

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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ripjaw v and msi b550 pro-vdh wifi

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i dont know much abt phanteks psu

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are they reliable?

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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which model

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tDGWb

System Builder

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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modelbrand

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amp is good but the pricing seems high

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amp is usually 99.99 for 650w :P

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Seasonic focus gx was like 100$ for 650w lemme check

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:38 PM

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any alternate m.2 storage?

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:38 PM

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they already bought it

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it's a hassle to resale/return

tawdry pollen Sep 9, 2020, 10:38 PM

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yeah f

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f

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:38 PM

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if i can sell/ return

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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if you can return, MP34 512gb

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62$ atm I think

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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wow

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ok

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r/w pretty good?

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@mortal mantle it would be appreciated if you cleaned up the mess you left in all the other channels too

elfin trout Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Most good 512gb NVMe SSDs are in the 70$ range, samsung the only one in the 90$ range lol

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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will do

tender root Sep 9, 2020, 10:40 PM

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thank you.

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 10:53 PM

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by the way, is this system overkill for 1080 144?

compact prawn Sep 9, 2020, 11:04 PM

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not really overkill, thatll just be a good solid 1080 144. could even upgrade to decent 1440 performance

scenic lance Sep 9, 2020, 11:09 PM

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what is a good psu for under 75 usd

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 11:11 PM

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how much wattage you looking for

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and you should look for psu's with at least a 80+ Bronze rating

mortal mantle Sep 9, 2020, 11:16 PM

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yes, how many watts?

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@scenic lance

scenic lance Sep 9, 2020, 11:17 PM

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actually im good nvm

placid sierra Sep 9, 2020, 11:25 PM

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lmfao ok

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 1:52 AM

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hey guys, on my list I want to upgrade the 850w to a 1000w. can somebody find a compatible one? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3TmnWb

System Builder

pulsar juniper Sep 10, 2020, 2:41 AM

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So, I am wanting to get into custom case building. Any ideas of where to start?

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 2:55 AM

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@scenic lance you doing XOC vBIOS and liquid cooling? If not then you're wasting money on a new PSU

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 2:56 AM

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i dunno what you mean @lofty pewter

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 2:56 AM

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XOC vBIOS allows for removing the power limit on the GPU, so it can consume 500w - 600w instead of the locked 375w max

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for better clocks
also to get those clocks you'd need liquid cooling due to very high temps

arctic terrace Sep 10, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Is getting the highest watt power supply a stupid idea?

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Well, I am going to buy a 3090 when they come out and they take 350W

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Sooo, I want to have more than enough pretty much

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This is the list atm: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7QTXv

System Builder

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 2:58 AM

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highest wattage PSU is 2000w, and is kinda worse in power cleanliness then a 1600w PSU. So buying the highest wattage PSU isnt always ideal. It also costs like $450+

chrome iris Sep 10, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Power supplies get to the most efficient at around 50% load right?
You usually wanna get a psu that can handle your system + have like 20% power to spare

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 2:59 AM

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I am getting a 1000w

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I feel as though that's adequate.

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 2:59 AM

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@scenic lance 280w CPU + 375w GPU + 100w rest of system is 725w

chrome iris Sep 10, 2020, 2:59 AM

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He’s gonna overclock

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 2:59 AM

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850w is already more then enough

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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im overclocking

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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right, OC the CPU

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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so i think that 1000w is good, no?

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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barely anything on the GPU

chrome iris Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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1k watts provides a bit of headroom

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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yeah that's what im saying

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it gives me more than enough

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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again, unless you plan to XOC vBIOS to make PL for the GPU to ~600w, you wont see any difference

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the CPU wont take 400w with a standard OC

chrome iris Sep 10, 2020, 3:01 AM

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A good bit

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:02 AM

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850w still gives lots of room for standard OCing, also that 1000w is worse quality then the 850w you have

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:03 AM

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:/

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so what do you recommend.

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I want space to breath

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and not worry about over-powering the psu

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:06 AM

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you have lots of space to breath with a 850w PSU. Good PSUs can easily achieve 10% overload. So that's a max PSU load of 935w on a 850w. Your PC max load is 725w on full power virus, and probs 680w or less on game load. You have more then enough "breathing" room unless you do the stuff I said with the XOC vBIOS, which it doesnt seem like you'll do

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A good 1000w PSU with clean power and a full protection setup (including OCP on 12v rail, meaning a multi rail PSU) costs about 1.8x a 850w PSU of equal quality

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850w PSU: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt
1000w PSU: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N7gQzy/be-quiet-straight-power-11-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn644

Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX ...

be quiet! Straight Power 11 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Mod...

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I see.

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So what should I do.

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Do you think you'll ever venture into BIOS modding a video card to increase the power limit and also liquid cooling it (can be custom or AIO, both are very good)? If not, the 1000w is basically a waste of money. You can still get it and then 4 years down the line change your mind and BIOS mod the GPU or something. Or go multi GPU with standard BIOS (wont be able to OC anything that much tho, even on 1000w).

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Probably not?

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Then get the 850w and push the money elsewhere. Such as a larger NVMe, SSD drive as secondary, RAM (4000MT/s CL16), or just save it for random life stuff

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or get the 1000w for flexing on friends

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Is the 1000w I chose good? I am curious as, if not, I will reconsider..

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:19 AM

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The G(1)+ series is overall on quality for budget systems, but also never priced right for budget systems. As a 1000w PSU, it's quite bad given a 1000w PSU should be very high end rather then "meh". As a PSU just in general, just "meh". It depends on your view of it for how "good" it is

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:20 AM

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I was told by somebody that I needed a better motherboard. I don't know if it's true, what do you think? If so, I may be able to choose a different psu..

lofty pewter Sep 10, 2020, 3:20 AM

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I sadly cant vouch much for Intel motherboards

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I mainly look into AMD ones, Intel ones are not something I've looked into for a while

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Oh.

tender root Sep 10, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@scenic lance why are you fiddling with the list again?

scenic lance Sep 10, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Can you vertical mount a gpu in a cooler master master box nr600 with an adapter?

tender root Sep 10, 2020, 2:37 PM

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@scenic lance no.

vale idol Sep 10, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Anyone know if a 6+6pin pcie extender would be able to connect to the 12 pin adapter for the 3080?

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I know little about these sorts of things

random peak Sep 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@scenic lance how much does it cost? not sold in the us

tawdry pollen Sep 10, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@scenic lance i wouldnt reccomend it

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it doesnt look like it has good cable management in the back

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and the airflow doesnt look that good

solemn pond Sep 11, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Anyone know if a 6+6pin pcie extender would be able to connect to the 12 pin adapter for the 3080?
@vale idol

No it requires two 6+2 pin (8pin PCIe) cables

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Also the 12 pin is proprietary from what I understand and does not use the standard PCIe pins or connector housings

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 2:29 AM

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nvidia includes the 2 8 pin -> 12 pin cable with the new gpus (all the other companies use several 8 pins and not 12 pins)

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and it is standard afaik

vale idol Sep 11, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Yeah but the 12 pin adapter is ugly and I want one cord to be shown in the case and to hide the adapter

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guess ill probably have to wait for a 3rd party solution

solemn pond Sep 11, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I think your option there would be to make your own cables for it.

tender root Sep 11, 2020, 2:37 AM

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@vale idol just contact the manufacturer of your psu.

solemn pond Sep 11, 2020, 2:38 AM

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You'd have to analyze and pin out the connector then inline splice the 16 conducters down to 12. If the 12 pin uses standard molex jr (I think) pins and spacing then it wouldn't be too hard, you could even paracord sleeve them easily enough.

keen forum Sep 11, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Hello, I'm Making my first build and my plan was to use a EVGA 650 GQ but it's been out of stock for ages. Now my plan is to use a EVGA 750 GQ. I think they are the same size. You guys think I can switch them out?

tawdry pollen Sep 11, 2020, 5:58 AM

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something like a lian li lancool 2

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or a phanteks p500a

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or phanteks p600a

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or a fractal design meshify c

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@scenic lance

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ah my bad i didnt see the note

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that it was 60 euro

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something like a phanteks p300a mesh was around 70 usd

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it doesnt have rgb

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but it looks a lot more promising than the silentiumpc case @scenic lance

teal creek Sep 11, 2020, 12:05 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-musetex-907-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00EH-00001

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Is this good?

elfin trout Sep 11, 2020, 12:10 PM

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no mesh tho :(

viscid halo Sep 11, 2020, 12:28 PM

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who needs airflow smh

elfin trout Sep 11, 2020, 12:28 PM

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all of us

chrome iris Sep 11, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@keen forum yeah it'll work.
What's your build's CPU+GPU?

keen forum Sep 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@chrome iris my CPU is ryzen 7 3700x my GPU is amd radon rx 5700 xt

chrome iris Sep 11, 2020, 3:10 PM

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id say dont use a GQ for that build

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get something better quality

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GQ 850w or more is apparently better quality than less wattage, though, which is interesting

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na

Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

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something like this would be a bit better @keen forum

keen forum Sep 11, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@chrome iris thanks I'll take a look.

tacit wren Sep 11, 2020, 3:49 PM

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lol

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Planning to build this system and trying to decide between Corsair ax1200i, Corsair ax1000, and Seasonic prime tx-1000 psu’s. Any thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cfTmyk

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surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

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tbh 850w for all that is doable, but i assume your overclocking quite a bit, so a 1000w or 1200w psu would be fine. as for which brand i dont think it really matters all that much. literally anything evga, corsair or seasonic will do fine at that wattage

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also dont get that motherboard

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any reason for 64gb of ram?

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32gb would be plenty for gaming

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@wheat cave

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@surreal magnet just going a bit on the overkill side to be as future proof as possible. Why do you recommend against the motherboard?

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:31 PM

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because its 700 dollars

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duh

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:32 PM

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the only futureproof parts are psu and case :v

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just get a 10600k system+tune it, and spend the 1k+ saved on a new flagship gpu

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Lol I know. I do like the m.2 capacity, the front panel connectors, thunderbolt, fan extension controller and lots of headers

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:33 PM

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you can get all that on a 400 dollar board tho

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also thats a dual system case

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and moar fans != moar cooling

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im gonna be honest, this is just a bad build list

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so lets start over. whats your total budget, and what do you need this system to do? @wheat cave

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Total budget around $7k (including monitor). I use it mainly for gaming and I want to have as low of load times and 4K smooth gaming on maxes out settings for a while to come.

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:38 PM

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so, your thinking 4k 240hz?

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Well that monitor is only 144 I’m pretty sure

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:39 PM

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yeah, but would you buy a 4k 240hz monitor?

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:39 PM

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does that even exist

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I suppose I would

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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oh, not yet ig

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i thought they did

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but 4k 144hz is good enough

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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they dont on ppcp and im lazy so they dont exist :v

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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if your loooking at 4k , you are obviously prefering the way it looks over how smooth it is

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so 144hz is totally good enough

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I’m curious when you say it’s a bad build do you just think some of the budget is wasted (I’m ok with that) or do you actually see something flawed that would create some problem

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:42 PM

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like 30%

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:42 PM

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i would say its mostly just a misallocation of funds

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but you can do better as far as ssds go

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and ram

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and cooling

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:43 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CsR4Rk imo something like this would be way better

System Builder

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:43 PM

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hecc yeah

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better performace for 4k less lmao

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:44 PM

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thats like 2500 saved on the pc, which could easily get the next 2 generation flagships if you sell the old one and would be way better performance and value wise

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:44 PM

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also

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you really dont want the 1000D

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trust me, you do not want that case, even though you might like it

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Why?

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:45 PM

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its HEAVY and FRAGILE

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its all tempered glass

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airflow isnt as good as it should be, even with 20+ fans

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Hmm haven’t heard anything about fragile. Heavy I don’t mind since I won’t be moving it

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:45 PM

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dude its like 50% glass

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plus its actual weight, good luck moving the thing with a build inside, while trying to not break glass

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and youre not even utilizing the dual mobo feature of the case

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the only reason the case is so big

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also you say you wont be moving it, but you will at some point in time

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Yeah fair points. I like the look and the size, and I like building with tons of space so it’s not cramped.

scenic lance Sep 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Get a fractal meshify S2

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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S2 is pretty decent, lots of room to build in

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Not really trying to convince you of anything here lol was just looking for some input on the psu. I’m curious why you say the other build would perform better though

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:52 PM

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because overpaying for components != performance

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your SSDs are meh

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the ram you picked is too slow

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and you have an air cooler on an unlocked cpu on an overclocking motherboard

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like, you can push it a little bit, but not very far with an air cooler

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Everything I saw suggested that noctua could compete with most aio’s

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:55 PM

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most

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is the keyword

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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then dont get the 700 dollar everything motherboard

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and i wont criticize you for not getting a full custom liquid cooling loop

wheat cave Sep 11, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Lol well telling me I’m going overboard on some components is fine but then suggesting that I should spend thousands of dollars less and will end up with something that has better performance capability is different.

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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theyre both basically the same thing

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@surreal magnet yeah thtas why my build is cool it has a loop therefore its better

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i mean, a custom loop cools better

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so

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thats what i would expect someone to pair with the listed components

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therefore they are losing performance by not getting a better cooling solution

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BjW27
heres an example of both a super overkill system, but with all the performance you should expect from a 7k build

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yes, with lots of budget allocated for looks

half meadow Sep 11, 2020, 9:13 PM

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bruh the ram

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better ram needed

scenic lance Sep 11, 2020, 9:14 PM

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maybe an extra fan or 2 for thecase

half meadow Sep 11, 2020, 9:16 PM

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not even 4800 cl 18

vocal talon Sep 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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mines still supreme tho

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3800cl14 baby

surreal magnet Sep 11, 2020, 9:22 PM

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theyre 32gb dimms lol

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they dont go that fast

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https://www.gskill.com/product/165/296/1552457654/F4-3200C14D-64GTZDCB

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

F4-3200C14D-64GTZDCB-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

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well, theres these

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but they arent made anymore

vocal talon Sep 12, 2020, 12:48 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/iqyasa/rtx_3080_is_in_the_house_what_cases_do_you_want/

r/sffpc - RTX 3080 is in the house - what cases do you want tested?

297 votes and 275 comments so far on Reddit

ruby oak Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-thor-850p-850w/p/N82E16817320002

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Anyone know if this psu is any good? Getting the 3080 soon ThinkingEgg

scenic lance Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Is 750w enough for a 10700k and 3080?

ruby oak Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I guess i don’t really need a psu with led though, can’t see it anyways

scenic lance Sep 13, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I would check the psu tier list on ltt forums

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And find one that fits your budget then check reviews

elfin trout Sep 13, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Look at that shipping cost lmfao @ruby oak

ruby oak Sep 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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WeirdChamp

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hm

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only $225

chrome iris Sep 13, 2020, 3:39 PM

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@scenic lance probably, if it’s a good 750w.

scenic lance Sep 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Ok

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It's a bitfenix whisper m

magic haven Sep 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Is this worth the price?

📎 image0.png

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If not can anyone find something under 120 for a 2700x and 2070s build

slim venture Sep 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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As of rn no Lmao

chrome iris Sep 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@magic haven Corsair CX650 or RM640 or something

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Or TX

scenic lance Sep 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Will a 750w straight power 11 be enough if I'm running a 10700k with some overclock and a 3080

tender root Sep 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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reviews will tell us that

scenic lance Sep 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Don't want to have to get an 850w bc I'm over budget as is

young osprey Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 AM

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anyone have experience with EVGA B-stock power supplies from their website? i ordered a G5 650 for like 40% off the normal price

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 AM

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A good amount of people do, we talk about b stock deals in #tech-deals

young osprey Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 AM

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only difference seems to be possibility of dents and scratches, and a 1-year warranty

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Yea

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that's it

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It's basically cheap refurb

willow hollow Sep 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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its used with a 1 year warranty

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thats how i treat it

dusky wyvern Sep 14, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Might be asking this again but do I need a new psu for 3070? Corsair semi 650w 6months use. Using a 5700xt gigabyte OC atm.

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 1:25 PM

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we will be able to tell you for certain, after the reviews have been posted (the 16th of this month)

dusky wyvern Sep 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Okey thanks

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Cause planning on selling my gpu for it.

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 1:28 PM

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you are very welcome :)

lapis cairn Sep 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Somebody @ me so I don't lose your response in the chat, but what exactly are cable sleeves for PSU? Are they like extenders if your PSU cables can't reach to an area of the motherboard or something totally different? I just see lots of case setups with colored PSU cables.

vocal talon Sep 14, 2020, 4:24 PM

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yeah basically that, people think they look nice and help match to their pc

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 4:24 PM

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cable sleeves = decoration for the cables.

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cable extensions = extensions of the cable (used when you want a custom length (longer or shorter))

lapis cairn Sep 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812183024 So is this a combination of cable sleeves and extensions/

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@random peak Thank you. I'm really just looking for the correct keywords to type when I look for a different color.

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Oh i see!

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Perfect, thank you @random peak

mighty hinge Sep 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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can someone dm me a micro atx case?

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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?

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why?

scenic lance Sep 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Is the be quiet straight power 11 850w good?

chrome iris Sep 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Pretty good

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or wait, straight power

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no no yeah thats a good psu

scenic lance Sep 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Nice ok thanks
Hard to find enough reviews for a specific wattage so I like to ask here

plucky citrus Sep 14, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Be Quiet is also a reputable brand so I wouldn't doubt it.

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EVGA is my personal favorite brand for power supply's though.

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Thoughts on NZXT C-Series and should I get it over a Cosair RMX

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Depends on pricing

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RMx is a better PSU overall

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But if C is much cheaper

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mighty hinge Sep 14, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@elfin trout im building my first pc with a micro atx mobo

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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mATX boards fit in full atx cases

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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RMx it is

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I am looking to build a pc but I don’t know which rating too choose

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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So are you looking for a PSU?

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80+ ratings say little about the overall quality of a psu. A decent Bronze PSU beats a crappy Gold PSU

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Maybe a cosair RMx 750W i say it’s pretty good

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Its 80+ gold

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Don't just assume rm750x for everything lel

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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D :

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Imo it's quite a niche spot

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130/135$$ usually

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Its tier a though and fairly cheap

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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When say a focus plus gx 750w can be 110$

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Revolution d.f. 750w same thing

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I am looking to get titanium or platinum 80+

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Why?

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Oh damn

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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why is one better than another

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Threadripper?

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Explain yourself first

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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also, another positive for choosing a seasonic psu

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https://www.techpowerup.com/272156/seasonic-details-12-pin-modular-cable-free-for-geforce-30-series-owners

TechPowerUp

Seasonic Details 12-pin Modular Cable, Free for GeForce 30 Series O...

Seasonic today shared with us some additional details regarding its 12-pin Molex MicroFit 3.0 modular PSU cable, and how it plans to market it. If you've read our NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Unboxing Preview, you'll know that NVIDIA ships its Founders Edition card...

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Ok maybe i will go with sea sonic

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Because there are some misconception you might have about ratings = quality

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Because 80+ efficiency rating does not mean quality

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So can you explain why you want platinum or titanium?

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Not sure I just thought one was more safe than another

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Uhhh no

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That only says things about the efficiency

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How much power draw from the wall turns into wattage for PC

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The difference from gold to platinum to titanium is like 92% to 93% to 94%, there's little difference (estimating, don't remember exact)

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There's other things that determine the quality of a PSU

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Ok so a gold would be fine

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So first, what are you using the PSU to power?

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Because we can determine wattage, then price range, then exact model.

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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https://www.velocitymicro.com/images/upload/80plusratings.jpg

pliant cypress Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Gold is pretty high end

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I9 3080 oc

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Which i9

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10900k?

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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10gen

surreal magnet Sep 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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the evga 12 pin adapter is braided with cable combs tho

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👀

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Eh, something like a 800w total system draw to be generous with power

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What's the overall budget for the PC?

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Not exactly sure just looking to upgrade from a laptop and waiting to see prices of the new gpus and learn some stuff about building

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Soo how much are you willing to spend total

fleet moss Sep 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Not sure gotta see what my laptop would sell for

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Is the 3080 overkill

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Or should I just go for a 3070

tender root Sep 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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we can tell you after the reviews are posted on the 16th

elfin trout Sep 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I mean at least can you give us a ballpark? or tell us what laptop you have right now?

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like 500$, 800$, 1000$, 1200$, 1500$, 2000$, 2500$, 3000$, 3000+$