#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 27

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:30 PM

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doesnt seem like it

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@zenith ice eh, depends on rest of system

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:31 PM

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says 650w

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got a 3700x

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m.2

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fans

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:33 PM

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You were looking at a 750w

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That would be a good spot

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I mean unless you're getting a 2080Ti you dont need a 650w

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:34 PM

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https://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2017/06/26/cougar-gx-s650-650w-power-supply/3/

Says it's a sirfa so bekora seems right

JonnyGURU.com

Oklahoma Wolf

Cougar GX-S650 650W Power Supply

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:35 PM

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as 3700x+2080Ti+system is 575w

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3700x+2080S+system is 500w
So a 550w would be fine for anything lower than a 2080Ti

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:40 PM

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With the coupon I got that for 60, seems like a good deal to me

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That's 20 cheaper than the Corsair cx550

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I mean, cx550 is $65 at newegg (out of stock tho) and $70 on amazon. A bit cheaper tho

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Oh I was looking at the cx550m I guess

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:44 PM

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ah, cxm is worse due to coil whine

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or fan whine

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dont really know which now

frozen tide Dec 12, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Anyone know any decent Cases that have a good amount of usb 3.1 (C or A) ports and is a decent price?

azure steeple Dec 12, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Well what's 'decent'? 70$? 100$?

frozen tide Dec 12, 2019, 3:38 AM

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under $100 would be nice, as cheap as possible though

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:39 AM

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buy a cheap case and get a 3.1 usb hub 😉

frozen tide Dec 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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I mean, that's not a bad idea 😛

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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its just you are going to pay to get those usb 3.1 ports

frozen tide Dec 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Was hoping for the usb ports on the front of the case though

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that's fair

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:41 AM

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and you can set the hub on top

iron marsh Dec 12, 2019, 3:41 AM

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the 2700x is on sale for $195 rn should i get it?

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wrong chat

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:41 AM

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uh no

iron marsh Dec 12, 2019, 3:41 AM

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read it wrong

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:42 AM

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the answer is still no get a 3600 for 189.99

iron marsh Dec 12, 2019, 3:42 AM

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not x

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:43 AM

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you can overclock the 3600 just like the 3600x

iron marsh Dec 12, 2019, 3:43 AM

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ok

worldly dust Dec 12, 2019, 3:43 AM

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not locked like intel

iron marsh Dec 12, 2019, 3:47 AM

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yeah the 3600 is quite better then the 2700x

azure steeple Dec 12, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Yup

primal remnant Dec 12, 2019, 4:57 AM

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i'm getting a 2600 because i am cheap and have a lot to buy

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next month is BIG EXPENSIVE NVMe SSD

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maybe also RAM but that might be pushing my budget

frozen tide Dec 12, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Anni, wait for Christmas sales for big boi NVMe SSD

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they'll drop in price

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like under $100 for 1TB if you wait

primal remnant Dec 12, 2019, 5:37 AM

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i'm probably buying it after christmas sales are over

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gotta do things when i can

glad frigate Dec 12, 2019, 7:14 AM

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I had a 520W modular psu but I wonder if it is enough to power the computer if I upgrade a AMD motherboard, ram and Ryzen 3700X?

primal remnant Dec 12, 2019, 7:18 AM

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what's the GPU?

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 7:42 AM

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depends on the gpu, and what power supply it is too

glad frigate Dec 12, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Currently using a GTX970. Maybe changing to AMD 5700XT soon.

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 7:57 AM

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what power supply is it?

glad frigate Dec 12, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Seasonic M12 II EVO 520W PSU

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 8:25 AM

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I'd be a little skeptical of running a 5700xt off that

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seasonic is a good brand, but not everything they make is amazing

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it's not the worst power supply, but it isn't very good either

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As for a 970 and 3700x... maybe?

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You're taking a gamble imo but it's probably fine

glad frigate Dec 12, 2019, 8:29 AM

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If it is not safe, I would probably just get a new pc, rather than upgrading one since almost all the component except hard disk might need replacing.

primal remnant Dec 12, 2019, 8:35 AM

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you can always cannibalize old parts

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that's kind of a part of the culture surrounding PC building at least in my experience, is to always make sure old parts are used, if not by yourself, then by your friend or acquaintance. I give people parts and sometimes entire PCs that i've replaced, with no hesitation.

lofty pewter Dec 12, 2019, 1:27 PM

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@steel portal tbh, that PSU is actually dangerous in some situations. More of higher workloads tho. So it is pretty close to borderline worse. Better than the PSUs that blow up straight in your face tho

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like more of a 700w MII

glad frigate Dec 12, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Is it? I find the PSU to be ok. It lasted that long but I know that the power supply might not be enough. Perhaps enough to change the motherboard and CPU but not enough for gpu since the newer gpu seemed to consume more electric than my old one.

lofty pewter Dec 12, 2019, 2:32 PM

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lacks in a lot of important modern protections, and is group regulated iirc

stone karma Dec 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Anyone here used the Lian Li PC-o11 air?

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Or the dynamic? They have the same inside dimensions. I want to do air cooling, but have some concerns about the listed 155 mm max CPU cooler height.

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 7:35 PM

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@lofty pewter sorry, which psu? The seasonic? Or the cougar I bought? ThinkingEgg

lofty pewter Dec 12, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@steel portal seasonic one

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Yeah, that's why I said I'd be skeptical of running a 5700xt on it. They can pull over 200w with some AIB models.

lofty pewter Dec 12, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Pretty sure max is 260w for the XT

scenic lance Dec 12, 2019, 11:55 PM

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MX330-G is a good case?

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 11:58 PM

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For the price it's solid. Doesn't have any usb 3.1 though.

scenic lance Dec 12, 2019, 11:58 PM

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doesnt i have usb 3 tho?

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Yes

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2 of them

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and I'm sure your motherboard does too

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unless it's old

scenic lance Dec 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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i dont have a motherboard

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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well, what are you planning to get?

scenic lance Dec 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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something something am4 so yes

steel portal Dec 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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yeah it'll have at least 3.0 then

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there's nothing inherently wrong with the case -- doesn't seem hard to build in

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it even has a psu shroud

half hazel Dec 13, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I regret buying the corsair cube last year for my build. My custom loop is cramped

spring burrow Dec 13, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Anyone know a good cheap midtower case

steel portal Dec 13, 2019, 12:24 AM

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what we were just talking about fits the bill

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the cougar mx330-g

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 12:39 AM

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New to building and PC's as a whole but I'm going to build a new pc over the next summer, I was wondering what cooling solution would be best for an overclocked R7 3700x, I a thinking about the be quiet dark rock 4, but I started looking into aios, and I was wondering what rad size I should get, 1,2, or 3 fans (I'll be getting an h500i)

worldly dust Dec 13, 2019, 12:41 AM

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240-280mm

azure steeple Dec 13, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Only do 360-380 (3 fan) if
1: your case is compatible
2: you have a flexible budget
3: you really want one for some reason

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You generally only need them for HEDT (high end desktop) CPUs which can put out upwards of 200w of heat

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 12:47 AM

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should i buy 2 more case fans for the top, or ugrade from my back 120mm aio to a 240mm one

azure steeple Dec 13, 2019, 12:48 AM

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I would do a 240mm aio

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They typically come with fans besides

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 12:49 AM

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id want my fans to match the 2 i already have as intake

azure steeple Dec 13, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Well idk then

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Keep in mind a 120mm is typically barely if at all better than air cooling

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 12:51 AM

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i got it for free

azure steeple Dec 13, 2019, 12:54 AM

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I'm not trying to give you buyers remorse, just something to keep in mind with 120 vs 240

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 12:57 AM

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well yeah, but i got it for free so i cant really complain

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could i theoretically take the aio part off an aio and just use the rad?

azure steeple Dec 13, 2019, 1:05 AM

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...yes

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It's usually somewhat painful as you wouldn't have a reservoir to get the air out

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So you would have to do it with the block and pipes fully submerged

primal remnant Dec 13, 2019, 2:13 AM

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i'm getting a second fan for the front of my case

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second 144mm fractal design dynamic something something

patent comet Dec 13, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Why is it so hard to find a case that has good airflow bur also doesn't look "gamery". I want to game without making an RGB monument to my virginity in the corner of my room.

Best I could find so far is the SL600M from Cooler Master.

surreal magnet Dec 13, 2019, 3:42 AM

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FD meshify C or S2

steel portal Dec 13, 2019, 3:50 AM

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@patent comet https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-FD-CA-DEF-R6C-BK-TGL-Computer-Define/dp/B07HP9KGSX/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=define%2Br6&qid=1576208991&s=electronics&sr=1-1&th=1

faint trench Dec 13, 2019, 4:05 AM

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the basic phanteks P400A doesn't have RGB fans, only the more expensive SKU does. although it also comes with fewer fans

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or you could just turn off the RGB

patent comet Dec 13, 2019, 4:06 AM

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That was actually the first case I was looking at, but it's thermal performance isn't as good, and to make it as good you need to include x3 120mm fans, increasing the DBa beyond acceptable levels.

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A case with 200mm fans pushes more air with less rmp.

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But almost every case with 200mm fans has this weird industrial RGB nuclear dogshit look to it.

faint trench Dec 13, 2019, 4:08 AM

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140mm fans are plenty quiet imo

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high quality 200mm fans are pretty niche, probably why they don't come with cases

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are you thinking like cooler master h500?

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i guess it is pretty ugly

patent comet Dec 13, 2019, 4:10 AM

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That airflow is unbeatable though. The difference between the 200mm Cooler Master cases and the Fractals are as much as 10 degrees with half the noise.

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It's so ugly

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I need something grey-white-black/metalic/boring looking with good thermals

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When a lady enters my bedroom, I want her to see "workstation" not "playstation".

faint trench Dec 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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a p400a with a couple good 140mm fans in the front is probably as good as you'll get

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or any of the mesh front FDs

patent comet Dec 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I'll probably get the SL600M and replace the fans with dual 200mm nocturas.

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Horizontal 200mm fans shouldn't suffer the same speed of degradation as vertical.

minor portalBOT Dec 13, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Keegan#2839 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

faint trench Dec 13, 2019, 4:16 AM

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that works too. the noctua ones should hold up well

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anything with PWM fans is silent until you max out the graphics card anyway

primal remnant Dec 13, 2019, 5:08 AM

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i'm grabbing an extra fan for my ITX case, 2x140mm with 1x120mm exhaust, it should be very good on static pressure - keeping the dust out and cooling both

toxic leaf Dec 13, 2019, 6:40 AM

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yo so my psu is about 4 years old now and when i turn my pc on it makes a rather loud rattling noise any help?

primal remnant Dec 13, 2019, 6:47 AM

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replace your PSU it is dangerous

surreal magnet Dec 13, 2019, 6:51 AM

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it BOMB

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go BOOM

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not really, but pull the psu out of the pc, jump start it, and see if the noise persists. Then check to see if theres anything caught in or near the PSU fan

toxic leaf Dec 13, 2019, 6:56 AM

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thanks

steel portal Dec 13, 2019, 7:11 AM

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yeah replace that ASAP

actually just take it out of your pc

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it could literally be a bomb

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he's joking, but I've seen that happen

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first hand

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they go up in flames if they fail catastrophically

toxic leaf Dec 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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thanks good to know

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your a godsend

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@steel portal I’d be cautious when sending amazon links it shows your post code

rugged spindle Dec 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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do yall know if theres that big a difference between h200 and h200i

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nzxt case

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other than CAM

vocal talon Dec 13, 2019, 7:48 PM

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one has the cam stuff and pretty sure that’s about it

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but I’d go with the h210/i because it’s newer and should be cheaper (h200 is old stock)

rugged spindle Dec 13, 2019, 7:49 PM

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h200 is 49 bucks rn

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i can get h200i for 10 more dollars

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problem is, the h200i that is still in stock is red color, the h200 has my fav color, blue

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so idk if i should go with the blue non rgb or red rgb

steel portal Dec 13, 2019, 8:10 PM

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@scenic lance what? ThinkingEgg

vocal talon Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 PM

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i'd just go the h200

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the cam isn't really that important

scenic lance Dec 13, 2019, 8:39 PM

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@steel portal when I clicked on a link you sent it showed a post code or address

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sometimes amazon will show a random postalcode (or whatever it finds from ur ip address without asking for geolocation) but i dont think it stores that in links themselves

hushed yoke Dec 13, 2019, 8:53 PM

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omg

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hi c orange lavaburst is so good

static egret Dec 13, 2019, 11:40 PM

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So... my PSU's fan died. It was a 70x70x8mm... and dude- talk about near impossible finding it.

flat eagle Dec 13, 2019, 11:56 PM

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that's an odd size

static egret Dec 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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You have no idea....

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But yeah, it is

scenic lance Dec 14, 2019, 2:25 AM

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hey guys ^-^ any advice for a case power button that doesn't work? (I've been using the mobo power button to start my pc, but would like to put the last panel on) [this is my first pc build ^-^ ]

scenic lance Dec 14, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I would check if it is plugged in properly

flat eagle Dec 14, 2019, 12:28 PM

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If the actual switch is dead, you can try and contact the manufacturer and get a replacement, or like above mentioned. @scenic lance

scenic lance Dec 14, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Thinking of this case?

vital ferry Dec 14, 2019, 3:25 PM

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How much would you spend on a 500w psu

scenic lance Dec 14, 2019, 3:29 PM

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You can get a 650 for 50

vital ferry Dec 14, 2019, 3:31 PM

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50 usd?

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Or gbp

scenic lance Dec 14, 2019, 4:27 PM

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About the same

vital ferry Dec 15, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Hello, sorry for another psu question but if you bought a cheap psu for £20 on ebay and it had 4.6 stars and 34 reviews, would you trust it despite its price?

steel portal Dec 15, 2019, 10:38 AM

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absolutely not

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If you want a cheap psu, get a corsair cx series

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I won't recommend anything lower than that

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there's so many things that go into a PSU besides wattage and efficiency rating

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I've personally seen power supplies catch fire from skimping out on them, taking the whole pc with them.

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Don't be that guy.

vital ferry Dec 15, 2019, 11:02 AM

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Ok thanks

opaque sparrow Dec 15, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Yes. Never ever go cheap on a PSU. They are the "heart" of the PC. If they go, they can easily take out other components such as mobo, cpu, gpu.

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To add to that, really cheap PSUs can send wrong voltages to components even when it works fine. Over time this will cause components to fail.

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:43 PM

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arg why is the snowblind case no tin canada??? 😢

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:44 PM

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bro its $300

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for a case thats insane lmao

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I know, I want the case, but it's on on the canadian site 😦

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and it's on sale for $200 right now @jaunty magnet

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:44 PM

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wait what

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where

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:44 PM

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newegg.com

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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uhhhh

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00CK-00003

minor portalBOT Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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BBK#4619 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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bruh

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f word isnt pg-13 ig

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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lol

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I want the case, come to canada!! arg

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:45 PM

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lul

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man i planned on getting a h510i

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but

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if the snowblind is only 100 more

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:46 PM

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ya

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do it

jaunty magnet Dec 15, 2019, 8:47 PM

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do you know how long its on sale?

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i wont have money until christmas

fallen pine Dec 15, 2019, 8:48 PM

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no idea, it just says price drop

wary night Dec 15, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Hey guys. I'm soon to be doing my first custom build. I'm going with the Cooler Master MasterBox MB530P and EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G+ 80 Plus Gold. In anyone's experience do the included cables with this PSU usually have enough length for proper cable routing/management or will I likely need an extension kit?

lofty pewter Dec 16, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Getting a mediocre PSU at 750w? If I were using close up to that wattage I'd get a better PSU

pliant hound Dec 16, 2019, 12:38 AM

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^^ there are better options like the corsair RMx 750

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 12:56 AM

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has anyone gotten hands on with the snowblind case? is there an option to mount the gpu's in the show off position?

hushed yoke Dec 16, 2019, 12:58 AM

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you can get this

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https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-ph-vgpukt-02-black/p/N82E16811984028?Description=Phanteks PH-VGPUKT_02&cm_re=Phanteks_PH-VGPUKT_02-_-11-984-028-_-Product

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it doesnt have one built in but you can get that and mount it vertically

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Please stop giving your personal opinions on the "quality" of the psu and/or which one "you" think I should buy and please just address the actual question I asked. Thank you.

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Besides, I don't see how a 750 watt 80+ gold rated $120 psu is "mediocre".

rare phoenix Dec 16, 2019, 1:11 AM

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esp the g+ which a top psu reviewer suggests it's closer to platinum than gold..but hey, keep fanboying corsair

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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@hushed yoke seen those, that's only for a single. curious if you can do dual

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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^Thank you. Anyway the actual question was commonly is there enough cable length for a proper/well managed build or will I need an extension kit.

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That's all I asked.

pliant hound Dec 16, 2019, 1:13 AM

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"fanboying corsair" lmao, dont see how you got that from one statement

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but aight

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@pliant hound There was no point or need for your statement. You answer was like me asking will I get better in game framerates at low/competitive settings in BR's with a 2070 Super and a 9700k or 3700x and you answering with "The 3700x is the better value because of HT support and better multi core performance is certain application scenarios" it doesn't matter if the statement is true or not it has nothing to do with the very straightforward question.

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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$120 for that powerful of a psu is a lower end psu, he was being honest lol

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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So, can you please just answer my question if you know the answer?

pliant hound Dec 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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thank you kanye, very cool

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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The one he listed is $140

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So???

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:18 AM

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ya so for 20 dollars more you get a much better psu, lol

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Once again, do you even know the answer to my question or are you all just know-it-all's that don't know?

rare phoenix Dec 16, 2019, 1:18 AM

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not worth it..just ask @scenic lance what he thinks

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Actually looking at the specs and reviews I see no compatible differences between the two. Now again, do you actually know the answer to my actual question or are you just going to keep arguing about what "I" should buy because you said so?

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comparable*

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Also better in this respect is subjective. I've owned many Corsair products from peripherals to psus to coolers and most if not all of them have failed due to defects.

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But any day now someone might actually answer the question I actually asked. Let me know.

pliant hound Dec 16, 2019, 1:21 AM

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pretty sure you're just unlucky

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Pretty sure I didn't ask.

pliant hound Dec 16, 2019, 1:21 AM

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👀

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Do you know the answer to my question or not?

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:22 AM

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So your plan is to come in here and be a complete knob to people who gave their opinion which you could have ignored and moved on. and then ask for help. lol

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I'm not being anything. I asked an extremely straightforward question and received arguing about what I should and shouldn't buy with my money. I have good reason for choosing what I chose and I don't need to deal with your god complexes or mental issues.

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:23 AM

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As for your question, ignoring your being a dink. That's a pretty small case as far as gaming cases go, the psu cable will reach fine

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Just wanted a simple answer to a simple question.

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Thank you for finally answering my question instead of forcing your personal opinions on me.

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Have a great day.

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Dude you need to chill and walk away

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Cause you're gonna do something?

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Have a great day man.

fallen pine Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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blocked. Move along

wary night Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Thanks for the answer.

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Blocked omg I'm dying inside.

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Work out your mental health issues.

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Later.

vocal talon Dec 16, 2019, 2:24 AM

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so somebody is trying to suggest a better purchase and you say they have mental issues which is a real problem that people kill themselves about?

opal night Dec 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Oh FFS, let it go. Convo is over

vocal talon Dec 16, 2019, 2:26 AM

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:/ that was my first statement

vocal talon Dec 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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rule 9 no ebegging

lofty pewter Dec 16, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@wary night if you think wattage and rating is what makes a PSU, please look at voltage ripple, protections, multi railing, cross loads, temperature tolerance, fan quality, build quality, and bridge type

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@rare phoenix you as well

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Also note voltage ripple and efficiency changes upon temps, you need to check for both cold and hot temps

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Last note, need to consider coil whine as well

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Just because I made note of these doesn't mean that G+ has issues with all of these. However I can very well say that the g+ is a medcore PSU by today's standards. If it weren't for Bitfenix being hit by what I assume would be tarrifs I would've told you to go over with them instead of Corsair tbh. But rn Corsair has been the goto choice for a lot of the pricing categories as they are generally the best purchase at many budget categories

velvet wyvern Dec 16, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Does anyone have enough experience building in the mx330 enough to know if there is enough space for a hyper 212 style cooler?

tender root Dec 16, 2019, 6:04 PM

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@velvet wyvern the evo is 159mm tall and the clearance in the mx330 is 155mm

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same goes for the other 212 variants. they vary between 158mm and 161mm

rare phoenix Dec 16, 2019, 6:38 PM

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@lofty pewter not sure why you're bringing up an almost day old discussion, but the difference between corsair and evga is negligible. both have dual ball bearing fans, both have 100% japanese capacitors, both have 10 year warranties. Check out jonnyguru..look at both the g+ and the rmx corsair. You fanbois are pathetic. If you can save money compared to the other, then save money.

velvet wyvern Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Thank you @tender root

tender root Dec 16, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@velvet wyvern you are very welcome :)

lofty pewter Dec 16, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Yep. Basically the same. Exactly why the EVGA has Bad transient response, Inaccurate power-good signal, Low power factor readings.
Some of this was due to using an old bridge that also wasn't configured correctly afaik
@rare phoenix

scenic lance Dec 16, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Which EVGA model? What's inside? Not one of the superflower leadex units?

lofty pewter Dec 16, 2019, 7:52 PM

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G+

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Also I done goof on listing the issues as those were G1+ issues, hopefully not G+ issues

lofty pewter Dec 16, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Yep, nvm on that one. Those were G+ issues

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So uhh. Glhf I guess

marble flicker Dec 16, 2019, 9:33 PM

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E

orchid lotus Dec 16, 2019, 10:31 PM

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hondai is better

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honda**

scenic lance Dec 17, 2019, 1:29 AM

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PCPartpicker says my estimated wattage is 275W for the build I'm gonna do. My question here - I will upgrade my PSU when I upgrade my PC as a whole, so what is the cheapest, but very reliable PSU I can get?

half hazel Dec 17, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I would have recommended Corsair but I experienced first hand their current lack of quality control. If you want reliability Seasonic is the way to go, but they are generally pricier.

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Seasonic has issues
M12/S12 are horrible
Focus series has had issues on 3.3v/5v rails before

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Seasonic highest end stuff is currently the only worthy stuff worth buying

scenic lance Dec 17, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Bit harsh, no? I think most of their lineup deserves fair consideration when shopping around.

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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some consideration. But there are usually better options. Also as per usual, im quite harsh on PSUs

opal night Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I'm gonna come in here and blow minds with my 5 year old Thermaltake TR2

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Or older.......

fallen pine Dec 17, 2019, 3:21 AM

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absolutely smallest case I could fit a Geforce gtx 1080ti in? thoughts?

scenic lance Dec 17, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I’d recommend trying to get a high quality thermal take, most of them can fit anything but a RDX in them and are efficiently designed.

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@fallen pine

clever shore Dec 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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anyone know what radiator i can sif in the Phanteks PH-ES217E_AG EVOLV Shiftf

steel portal Dec 17, 2019, 5:25 AM

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for a cpu cooler?

hushed yoke Dec 17, 2019, 5:25 AM

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this is direclty from phantecks

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http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-Shift.html

steel portal Dec 17, 2019, 5:25 AM

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any 120mm should do

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yeah

hushed yoke Dec 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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just be careful... my case said it could fit a 240mm rad up top but it doesnt fit

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unless i dont plug in my cpu power cables lol

steel portal Dec 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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NZXT kraken m22 is my recommendation

clever shore Dec 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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ok thanks

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do u think that transporting the pc around would a problem with watercooling?

grand ether Dec 17, 2019, 5:28 AM

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what kind of water cooling

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id be more worried about the gpu

clever shore Dec 17, 2019, 5:29 AM

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no just the cpu

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with kraken m22

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was thinking of taking the pc on plane so it might be a lil rough

grand ether Dec 17, 2019, 5:30 AM

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MonkaSS

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Is this psu tier list credible?
https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/

GamingScan

PSU Hierarchy (Dec. 2019) - Power Supply Unit Tier List

Here's the ultimate list and hierarchy of all power supply units. We've ranked them in 8 different tiers so you can easily find out if your PSU is good!

steel portal Dec 17, 2019, 6:12 AM

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it looks roughly accurate but there's a few head scratchers in there

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Which one are you refering to, if you don't mind mentioning them.

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 6:20 AM

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EVGA G2 and Bitfenix Whisper M/Formula Gold being in the same tier

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same with Seasonic Focus Gold series

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Bitfenix should be on a higher tier (lack of amount of tiers maybe?) edit: nvm, there are enough tiers

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Seaonic S12/M12 are rated way too high. They should be quite a bit lower, last to second last teir

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pretty sure Be Quiet Straight Straight power should be above their Pure Power, but it isnt

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Also Corsair CX is rated too high. Yes it is the best budget PSU, no is it worthy of second tier

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On average tho it gives a rather vague idea of how good the PSU is. Tho there are a few that are far off (Seasonic M12/S12 for example)

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Yeah, I was thinking of that too. and it was bronze too which made me curious how it made its way up there.

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 6:28 AM

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bronze/gold/plat doesnt mean much

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That CX certainly beats out some gold PSUs

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but again, second tier is a bit much for what it is

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Lets say my current setup is this:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1231V3 (chg to AMD Ryzen 3600/ 3700X)
MOBO: ASrock B85M-HDS (chg to MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX)
RAM: GSKill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 1600mhz (prob chg to . G.Skill TridentZ Neo 16GB DDR4-3600 kit or 8GBx2)
HDD: WD 1TB Caviar Blue HDD
GPU: Leadtek GTX970 Hurricane III 4GB DDR5 (chg to AMD 5700XT)
SSD: Liteon S900 128GB SSD + ADATA SU650 1TB SSD
PSU: Seasonic M12 II EVO 520W PSU (Need to chg)
Chassis: Sharkoon v1000 case
Cooler: Scythe Katana 4
WIFI: Tplink TL-WN881ND 300mbps PCi-E

Wil a 650W PSU be enough or I should go for 750W? any other thing I might need to change or remove?

brisk trail Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Are you looking for a PSU that is sufficient for all the parts you want to change to?

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Yeah.

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I think 520W might not even be enough for it.

brisk trail Dec 17, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Give or take the 650 watt PSU should be fine

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If you want some leverage, you can get the 750W just for more upgrade room

glad frigate Dec 17, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Thanks for the input.

brisk trail Dec 17, 2019, 6:55 AM

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No problem

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 AM

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650w is fine for any consumer PC. Even a 3700x + 2080Ti will run off a 650w

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Also note, do change that PSU. Seasonic M12 is pretty bad

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but it seems like you already know that you need to chage

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so good

clever shore Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 AM

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anyone know the best budget sfx powersupply ? at least like a 600w

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everything ive found has been pretty expensive

lofty pewter Dec 17, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Corsair: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020105na
EVGA: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq8j4D/evga-supernova-gm-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-123-gm-0650-y1

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about $110

clever shore Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 AM

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oh damn

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thanks alot!

snow canyon Dec 17, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Whats a suggestion for a case thats... micro ATX? cheap maybe?

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I could think as small as the Velka 3 but i'm looking for something on newegg so i can order it all at the same time.

primal remnant Dec 17, 2019, 11:46 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352086 this isn't super cheap but is good for an experienced builder

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119331 this is super cheap and equally in need of an experienced builder

dire stump Dec 17, 2019, 1:38 PM

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hey i got a beefy list of cases to chose from

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For reference this is the hardware and stuff i plan to put in
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhYh7T

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Inter-Tech X-908 Infini2 ATX Mid Tower Case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zk9tt6/inter-tech-x-908-infini2-atx-mid-tower-case-88881240
MSI MPG SEKIRA 500X ATX Mid Tower Case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xMvqqs/msi-mpg-sekira-500x-atx-mid-tower-case-mpg-sekira-500x
Lian Li LANCOOL II-X ATX Mid Tower Case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kRFKHx/lian-li-lancool-ii-x-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-x
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hwkj4D/lian-li-pc-o11dx-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11dx
Asus ROG Strix Helios ATX Full Tower Case (Would remove my MSI stuff and get ROG stuff)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FhRzK8/asus-rog-strix-helios-atx-full-tower-case-helios
be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case (What i have in the list already)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nVZFf7/be-quiet-dark-base-pro-900-black-rev-2-atx-full-tower-case-bgw15

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any input?

primal remnant Dec 17, 2019, 3:46 PM

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first input: samsung QVO drives use QLC flash, which is prone to failure more than SLC/MLC/TLC is, and also when the disk is full the output slows down a lot - it doesn't offer a huge price advantage either, you might want to try an ADATA SU800

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second, let me look at these wonderful cases (I know they're all very good, because i recognize them)

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those lian-li cases

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how the mighty have fallen

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no more cool brushed aluminum chassis

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that dynamic looks good though

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the be quiet case looks the best to me

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it's very utilitarian which is kind of what you want from a case

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though the dynamic is a close second, i like how much room it has for additional stuff

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Need to run 295X2s in Crossfire

rare phoenix Dec 17, 2019, 6:32 PM

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where are you getting some of these cases? At least the Asus and full tower lian are no where to be found..Lian you can't buy unless you buy in a prebuilt on ebay or wait til 1/20

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Plz recommend a PSU

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 7:21 PM

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the heck is 295x2?

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seems pretty sketchy

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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R9 295X2

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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I see exactly one GPU

minor portalBOT Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Mr1111#1350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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thats so much power

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900W recommanded

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@elder prairie Do you already have the card? bc if not thats a bad card to buy

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a single card is basically running 2 different cards in crossfire

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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IMO it is more of a collectors item then a GPU

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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yea...

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it'll prob take a 1000w psu

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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They support Quadfire

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Which is fun

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Wait wait wait

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quadfire as in 4 295x2 cards

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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No

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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or 2 295x2 cards in effective crossfire

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Quadfire as 2

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If would be dangerous if they support quadfire with 4*295X2s

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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yea lol

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8 GPU in crossfire

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~~and also its 900w recommanded per 295s2 so ehm, I dont even think theres a 3600w psu~~

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:08 PM

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~~Evacuate neighbors before boot~~

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Each one should be 600w ish?

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So 2400 watt

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Look at those PCIe power connectors

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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holy

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is that 4x8

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for a single card

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I want to see quad crossfire for that card NOW

vocal talon Dec 17, 2019, 8:12 PM

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i mean its a 295X2

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its 2 gpu's and those alone ran hot

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the reference model comes with an aio :v

barren basin Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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There was a bunch of cards in the past where they would have 2 in one but they stopped doing that

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You has this one from Asus in the past http://www.ozone3d.net/public/jegx/201108/asus-mars-2-dual-gtx-580-01.jpg

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cards like that in the past were cool especially for people that wanted to do crossfire/SLI but only has 1 GPU slot

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But now since Crossfire and SLI are pretty much pointless companies really don't make cards like that anymore

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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@vocal talon what’s special about that aio is it only have a 120mil rad

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And 2 pumps

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And somehow they managed to cool that thing down

vocal talon Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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yeah

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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If it works, it works

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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GPU: 99C

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AMD: Works for me

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Lol

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Kingpin want those pcie power connectors XD

elfin trout Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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What if, you somehow used a converter and connected like mobo main power to that GPU

elder prairie Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Then something would blow up

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Username I think you can get by with a 1600W power supply

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because for the second card you don't have to take into consideration system power

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as you already have with the first

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1600W would really just be a safety thing

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but the question is, can you find a power supply with 8x8pin GPU power?

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i've got barely enough to handle my EPS12V and two 8pin on a 750W

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so 3

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even a 1600W might not have that much

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you might need to find two power supplies with four outputs and jumpstart the second one

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how to jumpstart i have no idea

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i know it is dangerous

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 8:49 AM

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8 pin PCIe is rated for 150w. 8 of those is 1200w. Then 75w PCIe port power for a total rated max of 1275w

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 8:51 AM

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With normal 16 awg wire - 150W is a really conservative rating. But better safe for those adapter kids.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:05 AM

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my god this sounds interesting

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like start a project to figure out how to power these two cards

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 9:16 AM

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1600T2 , 2000W leadex 8 pack, or just running them parallel haha. Main thing is to just ensure you power the 8 pins before system powers on.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:25 AM

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leadex 8 pack?

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 9:27 AM

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This guy http://8pack.co.uk/components/superflower-leadex-platinum-edition/

8Pack.co.uk

admin

Super Flower Leadex 8Pack 2000W PSU

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:29 AM

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my god

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look how deep that goes

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you'd want a system with a shroud

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like a case rather

sacred latch Dec 18, 2019, 9:30 AM

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also couldnt put that on a normal wall circuit unless you blow a breaker

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Only if you pull a ton of power from it long enough - but ya, it's meant for 240. iirc - it's identical inside to a US 1600w plat or Ti

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Any modern psu will run more efficienty , thus cooler on 240v.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:37 AM

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ideally if you have that and you're american you have a 240v US socket installed wherever your computer is

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(for those not familiar we have this huge socket with huge plugs for 240v in the US)

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and just make a custom cord to fit the power supply

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http://www.attachmax.com/p/2018/11/nema-plug-and-receptacle-configurations-throughout-nema-receptacle-chart-494x600.gif this is but a small part of the US 220-240V sockets

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at least 10 more than this exist

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you'd need a 50A or higher to power that power supply of course

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 9:55 AM

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Good chart - I've used the same one googling myself.

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I just wired in two 240v 20 amp breakers, and a 30 A 120v.
L5-30P and L6-30P plugs on both PDUs

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:57 AM

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i know nothing about electrical stuff

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lmao

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how many amps are needed to actually get that power supply to create a metric buttload of amps

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because i assume it has some kind of step-up functionality

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Like <10 haha.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 9:58 AM

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oh nice

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so you'd just need to wire up a 6-20R or something even lower

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and then flip your power supply switch if it's not auto switching

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i saw a socket on there that was dangerous

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it was a normal electrical socket with a thing sticking to the left out of the left blade

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like how much you wanna bet people have gotten themselves fairly good plugging regular stuff into those

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unless it has a failsafe like needing that extra blade to provide power

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Any modern psu should be able to take either two 120 v lines 180 deg out of phase as we're supplied in the us - or a single 240v rms line in either polarity as per EU regulation.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:04 AM

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hm, maybe you could get something that plugs into two standard plugs and provides the 240v

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speaking primarily for the leadex

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Ya, actually the reason I got these so cheap is that the L6-30P standard is being deprecated as it's possibly unsafe for 240 v split phase , 3 wire use.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:05 AM

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oh

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Do you currently need that much power? If so, why?

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:05 AM

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i don't, i'm just interested

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there's no way i could even max out my 750W

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i get interested in things

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:06 AM

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It's been common for years to run PSU's in parallel - most LN2 dual -quad GPU overclockers use something like dual 1600 G2/p2/t2 etc just bridging the 24 pin / green wire

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Lol - same

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:10 AM

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it seems kind of strange basically just the US and Japan use 110-120 (US) and 100V (Japan) and the rest of the world uses 240V for everything and it's just normal to have that much wattage on each socket

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voltage

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why did i say wattage, i don't even know what that is

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Yep, 230v 50hz is the norm. Though, every house in the US could wire up 240 if they wanted, idk about code.

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 AM

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yeah

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it wouldn't be code, probably

scenic lance Dec 18, 2019, 10:12 AM

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There's only a handful of places is really matters, and new houses get a nice L something 4 wire plug for that now - like what ovens use. two hots, a neutral + ground.

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Kitchen kettles, hair dryers, and I guess really tryhard big "compensator" computer rigs

primal remnant Dec 18, 2019, 10:13 AM

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lol

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my (ex) gf and i when we were living together had to replace the power cable for a dryer, and it was maddening because we really were sure we were right and they'd come up the wrong thing

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the dryer was older and the socket was newer

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and there was a problem related to that, wherein the power was just wrong and we couldn't get the right cable

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i need to go to sleep now, it's like quarter of three now and i don't want to get into a bad habit

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 8:54 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191218-155355.png

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Is this a good psu

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p66gn7 this is my build

elfin trout Dec 18, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Does it say what year its from

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Its good for the price actually

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just 66 bucks

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I like using this list, idk if its a good list, I just use it
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 6.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @PSUGuru, @Ave with a model o and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 16-12-2019 Tiering of various units is opinion based off r...

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@Mr1111#1350 it's the 2016 model

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@elfin trout

vocal talon Dec 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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its a semi decent psu, bronze 80+ isnt the best, but for $66 i dont think it will blow anything up

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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But you think it's good for my build, for now at least

vocal talon Dec 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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whats ur build?

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nvm ill check

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it will work, but its not the greatest psu but its a good price

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Exactly

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Oke

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@jolly lark why are you getting 850w on a meh PSU?

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If you PC consumes that much power then you should have the budget for a better PSU

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Also note, cxm has fan/coil whine issues

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Just get a cx550 for $65

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Or wait... Why are you getting x570 with 2000 series CPU?

vocal talon Dec 18, 2019, 10:05 PM

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oh didn't check the mobo lol yeah get a b450 motherboard instead

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@jolly lark Just get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wqzdb8

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:30 PM

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@lofty pewter no thank you I already have the case gpu and CPU

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@jolly lark well that's an oof because that case has bad airflow and is majorly overpriced

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Well too late lol

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Either way, get the rest of the build. Everthing else will work and it isn't overpriced like things were in the other list

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I want the wifi board so I can upgrade my cpu later down the road

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Cuz mobo, ram, and SSD were overpriced. PSU was more than what you needed

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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And I want the ram because I want it to match my color scheme

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So yea

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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The board I gave can easily do upto a moderate OC on a 3900x

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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And I'm getting a liquid cooler for the cpu

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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AIOs are generally a waste cuz they perform the same as air coolers

jolly lark Dec 18, 2019, 10:36 PM

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But they look cooler

lofty pewter Dec 18, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Sure, but at 2x the cost or more

elfin trout Dec 18, 2019, 10:38 PM

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They're easier transport around I think

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 2:54 AM

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i like AIOs because you sort of de-clutter the CPU area

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 3:32 AM

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also RAM clearance is never an issue

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a lot of modern RAM is really bad about being tall

scenic lance Dec 19, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Bruh I have a aio pc that has a i5-6400 with a GeForce 930A/GTX 550 so bruh

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 1:44 PM

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SO BRUH BRUH

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BRUH

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if you can not that would be absolutely fantastic

flat eagle Dec 19, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Bruh

livid blade Dec 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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My pc says it will need 360 watts

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And I have a 400w psu

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Is that ok

flat eagle Dec 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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yep

livid blade Dec 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Would I be able to oc?

flat eagle Dec 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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could go a bit bigger for future builds/parts

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having more wattage isn't going to hurt anything.

barren basin Dec 19, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Depending on what you have you can overclock but if you do plan on doing that would be best to use something like a 500 to 550w PSU then

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My system uses about 350 to 400w but i bought a 600w cause of any future parts and/or if i plan on overclocking

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Does anyone now a good cheap case

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I know that's an oxymoron but still lol

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Define cheap

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$50? $100?

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Lower than that and yes

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I literally want it to play with my spare parts

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Oof

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MATX or ATX?

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Atx

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Less than $50?

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Have you considered used?

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Hmm I'll look

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:34 PM

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The issue is, cases that cheap don't inlcude fans

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Which you will need, which will increase the cost

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Here's one for $55 that has two fans

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071SHFRTP?tag=hidevour-20

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079P1VBDY?tag=hidevour-20

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@jolly lark https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147153?Item=N82E16811147153

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Last one has three fans

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$40

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147312?item=N82E16811147312

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How about this

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:44 PM

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What CPU and GPU?

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Depending on those, might need more airflow is the thing

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:45 PM

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I don't have a GPU for it yet it's not going to be high end probably just a Rx something and the cpu is an i3

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It's just for recycled parts and such lol

opal night Dec 19, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Ok

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Just be mindful you might need an extra fan

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But nothing wrong with that case

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Okay

jolly lark Dec 19, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Is a CX850M 2016 model too old

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I can get a new one for Like 50 bucks

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:11 PM

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CXM is a mid tier PSU. If your PC is high end enough to take more than 600w then get a better PSU. Also CXM has fan/coil whine issues

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:12 PM

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i prefer the RM series or EVGA supernova

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i was just reminded of the supernova recently by someone

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Which supernovas are the best?

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i had one that went a long time for me and is going a long time for someone else now in a PC build I did years past

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Supernova isn't that amazing tbh

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I'd take RM or RMx over them

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Believe I've spec'd out an RM.

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Best supernova is G2, which is about on par with RM series I think

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G3 and G5 aren't that great, despite being newer

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:18 PM

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G2 is what i had

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 6:18 PM

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That's a shame.

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:19 PM

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it was an old FX-8350 build

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back when that CPU was relevant

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heads up: the RM 2019 cables are not very long

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routing them around a case is very difficult

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Tho, was it realistically ever relevant?

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:30 PM

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it was relevant when it was new

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it was a fast CPU

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despite how the number of cores/threads were figured out, it was a fast CPU and compared well to intel's contemporaneous quad cores

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I mean how close was it to the 3570k? Didn't the i5 lose just a bit in all thread count perf, but wins in some thread count/single thread count by quite a bit for about $50 more on just the CPU

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:38 PM

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the solution on FX was somewhere between hardware cores and SMT

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Idk mobo prices at the time so can't say how much more Intel was in total

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:38 PM

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but yes the i5 and FX traded blows

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intel motherboards were not universally expensive

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but good ones were

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but the same went for AMD

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Feel like workstation stuff would be more AMD but gaming would be more Intel cuz that single core perf and games not liking multi threaded stuff

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At the time

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:41 PM

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yes at the time games were single threaded universally

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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That change took quite a while, but it finally happened with games being mostly multi threaded

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 6:43 PM

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i didn't care, i was 29 and i had just come into some money, I wanted to build a beast computer

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also i bought a monitor and somebody stole it from my doorstep

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so i had to buy it again

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it wasn't a good monitor, it was just this 22" AOC because oddly enough i cheaped out on one of the most important components

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not now

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i'm poor as hell and I have a 27" 144Hz adaptive sync (both kinds) monitor

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i wanted to get an ultrawide but then this monitor resurrected itself from the depths

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so i kind of decided i wouldn't bother

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money spent is as valuable as money you have

lofty pewter Dec 19, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Ultra wide is also pricier

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 7:23 PM

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I've got a 1080p 144hz Asus monitor. I'll upgrade that last after completing my build.

barren basin Dec 19, 2019, 7:23 PM

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upgrade it to what?

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 7:24 PM

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i think i'll have a good 1080p card when i complete my build

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and one that should handle VR very well

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probably a used vega 64 because i'm a risk-taker

barren basin Dec 19, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Id laugh it was secretly a mining card with mining bios and never had the paste replaced

primal remnant Dec 19, 2019, 7:29 PM

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it's not likely when you get a seller that offers refunds

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why would they take the trouble to sell a bad card if they have a return policy?

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 7:31 PM

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@barren basin I think I want to possibly go 1440p eventually.

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Or possibly just stick with 1080p and go dual monitors with better panels.

barren basin Dec 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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If you go for VA panels visit your local PC shop or a Bestbuy and look at them first to see if it would be alright for your eyes

rapid mica Dec 19, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I'm so picky when it comes to cases it hurts

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Mid tower slick case recommendations?

stone karma Dec 19, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Just learned there's a Microcenter relatively close by, might have to head there and see what it's all about.

rapid mica Dec 19, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Bring tissues

surreal magnet Dec 19, 2019, 9:45 PM

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^

jolly lark Dec 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Are rgb psus bad

cosmic lily Dec 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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depends on if it's rated gold 80+ certified, if so should work with no issues but janky ones... you get what you pay for

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

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efficiency ratings really do not mean anything as to the quality of the PSU -- what model specifically? @jolly lark

jolly lark Dec 20, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Idk I just want one

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I've come into some money and want to get a good one

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Most cases you won't even be able to see it

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just so you know

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the rgb I mean

rare yacht Dec 20, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I know Thermaltake makes some

barren basin Dec 20, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Depends on the orientation of the PSU as well cause i have been noticing that some people has the PSU fan blowing on the inside of the case

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:34 AM

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I think I do actually

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I'm pretty sure I do

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Sadly I found that I have a EVGA G3 not G2

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so a bad one :p

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 3:36 AM

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when she been nappin for 4 hours

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😐

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wrong channel

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fric

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:43 AM

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@elfin trout well luckily G3 isn't horrible. Just has OCP set up incorrectly. Which isn't exactly a good thing having an incorrect protection setup, but everything else is good about it

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:43 AM

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@lofty pewter any way I can fix it or no

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Not as far as I'm aware. If there was it'd be dangerous anyways

vocal talon Dec 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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basically the G3 is decent, but not great

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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So, with current, anything I should avoid?

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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G3 is bad for its price as it's usually more expensive than better options

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Overvolting components should be fine correct?

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I got my g3 750w for like 100 bucks

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It was cheap

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Eh, you should be fine. Also note, the 750w RM was like $105 a week ago or so

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So not that cheap

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I bought mine a year ago

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well half a year but still

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Yee, don't remember prices from that long ago

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Oh wait ..

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Bitfenix was around at that time

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Do you know what would put me at risk of over current?

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:46 AM

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About $105 for 650w/750w I'm pretty sure

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Or $110

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Idk, anyways

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You should be fine tbh. Could have some random shutdowns with really high end hardware

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Pushing the PSU to it's limit I guess

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:48 AM

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My stuff should only take about 600w max so I dont think I'm pushing it to it's limits

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Well I'm no super PSU expert but it shouldn't kill your components in one go. If you do notice instability tho and can trace it to your PSU it will damage your stuff over long periods of instability

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Alright, I'll take note if stuff get unstable

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:50 AM

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But you should be fine tho

elfin trout Dec 20, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Aight, so if my PC dies one day, blame the PSU
got it

lofty pewter Dec 20, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Ummmm
Sure

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 5:46 AM

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What stuff takes 600 watts

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Do you have a 2080 ti and a 9900k?

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:04 AM

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i have a 750W and i most definitely do not need all of it

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😄 but it's a nice power supply

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i feel more comfortable with a good 250W above what i need anyway

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just in case i want to overclock a part or something

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Agree. I favor overkill / build quality for piece of mind.

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:07 AM

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yes

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i have a 2019 RM750

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thing is all i have is that and my case

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lol

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have to buy everything else

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i'll have enough to start the PC and use it like a normal PC by next month though

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 AM

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Sounds like you invested in parts that will last many builds to come.

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 AM

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not really

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the case and PSU will last

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I meant it in a good way, ya, those tow

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 AM

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those will last a long time

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provided i buy ITX

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which is something i like so i probably will

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though honestly? this case requires a GPU with a blower fan so i kind of regret the purchase

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loud, loud fans

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:10 AM

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I just find it silly when people skimp on parts they'll spend thousands of hours enjoying.

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:10 AM

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i'm only buying an R5 2600 (waiting for 3900X to hit $300)

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soon as new CPUs roll out i would bet it hits 300

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Maybe - , it might be possible to mod some GPU bracket mount elsewhere using a riser cable, water loop it all one day, who knows.

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 AM

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i'm getting an AIO for my CPU, and future CPUs

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 AM

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I'd bet so too. we saw $145 2700x's just now, $150 2700's , $200 2700x's on prime day.

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:12 AM

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yeah

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i might actually have to get a 2700x if it's that low of a price

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Given AMD's roadmap, I think the 3900x will really rule the productivity market for value

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:12 AM

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it'll also be a good gaming CPU

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in the future, as we need more threads for games

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

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3600 can be found for very attractive sales. 190 after tax at times + some game you can flip for $30 plus

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

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AMD is kind of ahead of their time in that even their gaming targeted CPUs have a lot of cores

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stuff like 3700X

rare phoenix Dec 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

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why get a 2700x for $200 when you can get a 3600x?

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:14 AM

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8 cores 16 threads

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i'd get one for $145 i mean

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:14 AM

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The 2700x was 200 on prime day - it's <$150 on sale now

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:14 AM

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hopefully in the next 10 days it maintains that price

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that is when i buy

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:15 AM

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if it doesn't, the 3600 is still a killer deal

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for its price/performance

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it honestly performs better tbh

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:16 AM

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it's still out of my range a little bit, unless i just want to buy the CPU and save the motherboard for later

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i decided rather than to save, i'd buy parts over time and have my build take its final form this march

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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I've praised the 3600 since lauch, haha ya, if the 3600x came with the prism , I'd give it more attention, some sales will bring it back into consideration though

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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the spire is good?

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does it mess up RAM clearance if your RAM is right next to it?

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:18 AM

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nah, the spire is pretty small all things told

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Could be better, it's just a cool rgb but worse than a 212 level cpu cooler you can use for random stuff

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:18 AM

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it's perfectly fine if you don't OC

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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otherwise i'll have a hyper T2 and a 2600

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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I use the stealth with my 2600 and I still boost higher than default without getting really hot

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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the hyper T2 is gonna be less of a problem for RAM

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because it's very small

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I feel like people drastically overestimate what you need for a cpu cooler

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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i'd venture a guess it outperforms the stealth by a huge amount

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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yes

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for sure

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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i used to always use Hyper T2s in my builds so i'm keen to continue doing so

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I think $50-80 on a d15 or equivalent is money well spent , on any cpu really, cooler lasts as long as you don't break it, noctua has the best in class mount hardware (they ship you new stuff free if needed) - and most of all:

Silence - if that's worth $50-80 over the many hours you intend to use the pc

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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oh i'm gonna have a blower GPU anyway

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so it's not gonna be silent

scenic lance Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Oh, but it's ugly - some people take offense to the ugly lol

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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~~watercool your gpu~~

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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~~i don't trust myself to do something like that~~

steel portal Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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too expensive anyway

primal remnant Dec 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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it is

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my case is actually geared towards novel ways of mounting disks and reservoirs for water cooling

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the HD mounts very low down on the floor of the case if you follow the default method

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but there are other ways

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i'll get an AIO eventually anyway, for both the extra exhaust fans and the quiet of 2x120mm fans vs the sound of a small 92mm CPU cooler fan

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wait that sounds ridiculous

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it's quiet, anyway

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i might avoid getting the AIO if the Hyper T2 proves to be the exact thing i need

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well max TDP is 130W

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so any of this gen's ryzens can be cooled by the T2

pallid isle Dec 21, 2019, 1:17 AM

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I just got my Corsair SPEC-DELTA last night and it looks amazing without even being turned on

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If you're looking for a good Corsair case it's definitely worth the $80 that it currently costs

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Thoughts on Corsair spec-delta? So not happy with my new choice air flow wise

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:25 PM

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cases are funky

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airflow can vary depending on your environment

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what did you get @inland kite

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:27 PM

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One of the PCSpecialist cases. Which as far as I can tell are only half rebrands of existing cheap cases, and half actually seem unique

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:28 PM

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oh i'm not familiar

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Neither is anybody else, its kind of a new thing they've been doing as far as I can see, so they're new cases on the market that only people who buy prebuilts can get. It was the easiest (and cheapest) way to get a 3950X fast to go through them so I just went with CPU + Mobo + Case + PSU and Im buying GPU, storage and ram seperately.

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:30 PM

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smart, also avoids common pitfalls in building PCs

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Yeah and doesnt really limit your options to what they have, as long as they have the exact thing you're looking for then its easy.

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The one thing I can actually afford to cheap out on is a case because it'll be pretty hidden under my desk, where I don't care much about noise and especially not visuals

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The PCS P209 is the case but, theres nothing on it. Not sure why I went for it, it doesn't even look like it has great airflow

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:35 PM

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trying to figure out what the case actually is

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I tried, I couldnt

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:36 PM

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but all i find are irish sites trying to review it seriously instead of people trying to expose what cheap case it actually is

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it's a corsair something

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oddly enough

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i just can't figure out what

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:37 PM

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If you're basing that on the corsair website being first to pop up, I dont think it is. I think its just a similar model number.

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I can still change it before they start building (when the 3950X comes in to actually build it with) and the only options which are a bit more expensive are the corsair spec delta, the corsair carbide 275Q, and a bit on the expensive side the thermaltake v200. But after that its kind of adding to a budget more for looks than practicality

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Theres also a PCS SR-628B which looks a bit similar to a few other branded cases

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I can find it from...taiwan? I guess

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http://www.solleron.com.tw/product_sr628b.php

SOLLERON Corporation

coolermaster

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📎 unknown.png

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I am kind of...okayish? With this breakdown

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I believe PCS dont supply it with the top mounted RGB fans, or even the back fan being RGB. Unless they dont know how to wire fans for their promo pics

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📎 unknown.png

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Again Im unsure on how well the front face flows but the more I look at it, the more things I like such as the vastly open top, and bottom seems well ventilated too.

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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yeah it looks okay

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I guess Ill give that a go, its only £18 more, so not the end of the world. But without any info on the p209 I have no clue what to think about it

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:45 PM

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yeah it's really nebulous

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a UK site gave it some good reviews though

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Which?

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:46 PM

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https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/gaming-pcs/pc-specialist-vulcan-s2-3699024/

Tech Advisor

PC Specialist has built a well balanced gaming PC in the Vulcan S2

The Vulcan S2 deploys an RTX 2070 to offer more gaming power than its rivals at a lower price. Find out more about this PC Specialist gaming machine in our full review.

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I always thought Techadvisor was the verge of the UK. After reading that I felt like I was assuredly correct.

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Im also curious because PCSpecialist lists the bays as 2x 3.5" drives + 2x 2.5" drives

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Im also curious as to why there's RGB fans behind an opaque black front

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Just to have an LED strip down one side

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Hi, what is the minimum wattage psu I could get away with for this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nF94p8

inland kite Dec 21, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Without OCing? Might just scrape with a 450 but Id definitely go with a 550 for safety. Maybe a 500 is safe enough

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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alright. Yeah, I think im gonna end up going for a 500. Thanks.

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Get yourself a Corsair power supply at that wattage

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RM series ideally, RM 550x

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you'll be glad you did

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it's modular and it's strong and reliable

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and most importantly it gives you almost all the watts and amps on a single +12V rail

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i'd also recommend 16GB of DDR4-3200 for a setup like that

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it's unbalanced to go with 8GB system RAM when your GPU has that much, it'll cause a lot of swapping while you're playing games

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these things might cost more but it will improve your experience

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Can anyone recommend a good air duster?

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not a canned one

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a reusable one

hushed yoke Dec 21, 2019, 7:17 PM

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data vac

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i think

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Metropolitan ED500 DataVac 120 Volt Electric Duster, White https://www.newegg.com/product/9SIA3913BT9019?m_ver=1

tender root Dec 21, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@primal remnant @inland kite , a likely reason you cannot find the specific case that is being used is because it is reused tooling being used to create a case for "oem-only" production.

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there are no catalogues for stuff like that

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 7:18 PM

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$82 for a duster??

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thats insane lol

tender root Dec 21, 2019, 7:18 PM

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because the general consumer is not the target for cases like that.

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 7:18 PM

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thats like more than my ram costs lmao

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https://www.amazon.com/XPOWER-Airrow-Multi-Use-Electric-Computer/dp/B01BI4UQK0/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=DataVac&qid=1576955944&sr=8-5

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how about this one

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more reasonably priced

tender root Dec 21, 2019, 7:19 PM

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@scenic lance the reusable dusters are generally not for "one-off" builds. hence the small selection of them

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i personally prefer canned or actual air compressors

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(small selection in the general way)

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 7:20 PM

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i have issues with them spraying liquid out

tender root Dec 21, 2019, 7:21 PM

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you are using them for prolonged periods

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hence condensation forms

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burst use only

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/XPOWER-Multi-Use-Electric-Computer-Replacement/dp/B00V8S9XU6 also comes in a fetching green and blue (why i have no idea)

scenic lance Dec 21, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@primal remnant yeah, ram is definitely on my list for future upgrades, just a bit short on cash right now and I want to get my 1050ti out of my pc and upgrade lol

primal remnant Dec 21, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Just know with 8GB you'll suffer - you could afford 16 if you got a 5700 instead of a 5700 XT

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Well for $10 more you get 16gb

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cuz that 8gb RAM kit is overpriced

blazing obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Opinions on corsair 200R airflow? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cTQypg/corsair-case-200r

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I don't care much for looks, nor for side panels, I just want good airflow

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:23 AM

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not sure you'll get good airflow

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Front intake sucks
Upper intake is bad for air coolers but decent for liquid coolers
Side intake is a bit better for air coolers than above intake and gets GPU good air

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:24 AM

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pretty sure you can find a front intake meshy style for that price

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853071?Description=case&cm_re=case-_-11-853-071-_-Product

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heck 28 😛

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Or Deepcool Kenndem or whatever it is

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lots of fans

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for $60 cad

blazing obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 12:25 AM

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What I liked about it was the side intake as you said

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Can pump air straight to gpu

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Air cooler or liquid cooler?

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:25 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119331

blazing obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 12:26 AM

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I'll have a look at those when I get to my pc

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I'm undecided yet

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I plan to get 3600x, so I don't really need an aio

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:26 AM

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If air cooler you'd most likely want a mesh front

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:27 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352069

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these are all mesh fronts.

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60 and less

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:27 AM

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@flat eagle Wasnt the q300l bad?

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Cuz mostly metal front

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:27 AM

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no I think that twas the other one

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q300L was meshy no?

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I know the one you are thinking

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the front intake was hooooooorrid

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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📎 11-119-331-V09.png

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-lite-3-1-microatx-mini-tower/p/N82E16811119324

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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holes being small

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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this one you thinking of?

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs

YouTube

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We tried hard to make Cooler Master's Q500L case perform well, but we just couldn't pull it off. The Q500L is one of the worst thermal performers we've ever tested.
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flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:29 AM

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is that the same as the 300?

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just biggeR?

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also his hair

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so dreamy.

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😄

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:29 AM

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idk, looking at the pic a bit earlier I posted it seemed to be the same

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With front being more metal that no metal

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:31 AM

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if techjesus says its a big oof, I retract my url 😛

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:31 AM

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all hail tech jesus

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:31 AM

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I mean you cooooould drill out the holes

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if that's the only issue

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Just cut the entire front off, less work

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🙂

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:32 AM

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mwahahahahaa where is my dremel

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or in this case, angle grinder

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I do like the look of it

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Yeah, it isnt bad apart from that one issue. Which kinda sucks cuz I also kinda like the look of it

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I'd mod it though, with the right drill bit it'd be really easy to bore out them holes

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or like you said, just remove the entire front

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3d print a 240mm fan bracket

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Probably just dremel large-ish square holes I guess

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decently easy but keeps the front more intact

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I feel drilling each hole would do wonders for my ocd.

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lol

lofty pewter Dec 22, 2019, 12:36 AM

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use that mesh layer to hide it all

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 12:40 AM

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yaaaas

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I like where we're going with this

blazing obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 12:43 AM

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u recommend full mesh front?

flat eagle Dec 22, 2019, 1:01 AM

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if you want the best air flow, yes.

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2 front 120mm fans. and back/top exhaust

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👍

primal remnant Dec 22, 2019, 1:12 AM

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tech jesus

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maybe i should get more fans when i get my GPU

primal remnant Dec 22, 2019, 1:37 AM

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i don't trust this tech jesus

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he's using a samsung QVO disk

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the QLC

elfin cipher Dec 22, 2019, 2:14 AM

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if you mean the ssd they use in test systems that's an old 840 evo drive iirc

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the 840 evo was in the same grey case

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https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/u6ScDhNTXdDokSEpOeXFUQLyL7A=/1200x675/2013/07/30/b1f09b7d-6797-11e3-846b-14feb5ca9861/Samsung840Evo_(11).jpg

tranquil badge Dec 22, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Best plain black case?

rigid acorn Dec 22, 2019, 7:59 AM

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anyone recommending a certain case looking for a ATX case, should I get theCorsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow?

primal remnant Dec 22, 2019, 8:01 AM

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that's a sweet case

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i bought a case that didn't even have a window

plucky bough Dec 22, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Are all Corsair PSUs good ? I want to buy an ATX PSU 80+ bronze or better, might cop the CX650 corsair 80+ bronze but are there any better options and is this one a good one

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And would there be any cable compatibility issues ?

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 3:28 PM

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power supplies should come with all the cables you need

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assuming new, all corsairs are pretty decent

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 3:29 PM

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What's a good RGB ATX mid tower for a 7 7200X and Rx 5700
I want tempered glass side panel and front panel
3 RGB fans on front
Back fan doesn't matter if RGB or not
A PSU cover thingy
For around $100

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 3:31 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353158?Item=N82E16811353158&Description=rgb case&cm_re=rgb_case-_-11-353-158-_-Product only 2 fans, still work?

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 3:42 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353125

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Is this a bad choice

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Sounds super good to me; decent IO, looks kinda nice, and can fit a Noctua nh-d15 in it no problem

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 3:45 PM

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To me it looks exactly the same but it has 4 fans and an IO fan speed

plucky bough Dec 22, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Thanks Kuzu

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Rate my $800ish build now with the case
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

MSI B450 Tomahawk

Corsair Vengeance LPX 2 x 8gb DDR4 3600

Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

XFX Raedon Rx 5700 8gb

EVGA 500 bq

Vanguard RGB black

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 3:57 PM

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9/10 get a 3600 instead GWnonAiSmug

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Personally had a corsair CX 650m before and never had any issues

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I'm sticking with the 2700x because 1. They are both decent CPUs and 2. It comes with RGB stock cooler and you know RGB is better than performance

digital furnace Dec 22, 2019, 4:44 PM

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for 100 you can get actually decent cases

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front tempered glass isnt good

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at all

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i would go either with the corsair 220t or the meshify c

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 4:46 PM

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why isn't front tempered glass good exactly

digital furnace Dec 22, 2019, 4:52 PM

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airflow

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 4:52 PM

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could be bad I guess

digital furnace Dec 22, 2019, 4:53 PM

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only reason I hate Lian Li O11 dynamic is cause of that

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 4:53 PM

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personally I have a case with an obstructed front side and it doesn't affect the temps very much at all

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long as there's at least 1 out-take you'll be okay 👍

digital furnace Dec 22, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I prefer something like the meshify c

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yeah

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but well

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just an opinion

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:D

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 4:58 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853078

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Is this one good as well

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 5:00 PM

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that one can just barely fit a noctua as well

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👍

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Will it work with MSI mystic rgb or whatever it's called

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 5:02 PM

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?

mighty vine Dec 22, 2019, 5:04 PM

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The case I just sent

quasi inlet Dec 22, 2019, 5:06 PM

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noctua clearance was 160mm, that case says 168mm

primal remnant Dec 22, 2019, 5:55 PM

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my define nano S can fit the noctua

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because it's just as wide as the other define series

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that said, i opted for a hyper T2

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it's got 130W TDP capacity and my 2600X will be 105W TDP

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er 104

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even leaves room for a small overclock

modest ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Does anyone here happen to have any experience with Rosewills Cullinan MX?

elder prairie Dec 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Anyone have a case recommendation?

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For around 80 CAD

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I’m looking at a Deepcool Macube 310p

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To replace my current SPEC-06

primal remnant Dec 23, 2019, 5:38 PM

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why replacing the SPEC-06

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ah the macube looks really nice

upper moat Dec 23, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Hows the nzxt 700i?

primal remnant Dec 23, 2019, 6:50 PM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nzxt-h700i-mid-tower-case,5380.html here's a review i think you can trust, this should help you in making your decision

Tom's Hardware

NZXT H700i Case Review

Available in Black or White with various accent colors, NZXT's new H-Series cases include RGB and its Aer F-series fans. We dig into the model H700i.

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i haven't reviewed it or used it

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so i can't tell you

hushed yoke Dec 23, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i trust nzxt, theyre a good brand

lofty pewter Dec 23, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Seems like poor airflow to me

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@mighty vine would advise against EVGA bq, not great for the price
@quasi inlet CXM does tend to have fan/coil whine issues

primal remnant Dec 23, 2019, 6:54 PM

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i've used a fair bit of NZXT cases, in their source line to build PCs

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i still have a white one

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source 210 i think

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it was a good case, i had another source 220 which is the same but with USB3

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they are old cases

mighty vine Dec 23, 2019, 7:44 PM

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What would I use instead @lofty pewter

lofty pewter Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Corsair CX is generally the cheapest while still being good

mighty vine Dec 23, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Is there a similar semi modular one

lofty pewter Dec 23, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Kinda sucks that there isnt any good cheap semi PSUs. Heck you even see decently high end fully modular before you see any good semi modular, which kinda sucks for saving money
So for modular cheapest decent one is Corsair RM 650w

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RFZPN8G?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

hasty delta Dec 23, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Rosewill has some decent modular psu's, but the RM are better.

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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okay guys I have a toughie. I'm on a budget, and I'm replacing this thing https://1stopshop.co.za/thermaltake-litepower-350-watts-atx-12v-2-2-power-supply-lt-350/p31899
I need more wattage, and the connectors offered by this at least.
Upper limit on my budget is about $80-$90 USD

120 mm Fan
Efficiency 70%
3 x SATA & 3 x Peripheral Power Connectors

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any ideas?

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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How much more power do you need?

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Well, I"m currently powering... lemme grab my specs

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an Nividia GTX 950 2Gb, i5-4690k CPU (3.50GHz), quad core
8Gb Ram, two harddrives, two fans, on this mobo with 8Gb Ramhttps://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GA-H81M-S2H-rev-10#ov

GIGABYTE

GA-H81M-S2H (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

Supports 4th Generation Intel® Core™ processors GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ Technology Audio Noise Guard with High Quality Audio Capacitors GIGABYTE UEFI BIOS ...

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so enough to run all that, in the ballpark of 500-600 watts?

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@opal night

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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With that hardware you only need 400-450 watts

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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I plan to add in the future

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upgrading the GPU is next on my list after the PSU replacement (current is dying, only kicks out 350)

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Hmm, 550 will be hard to do for $90 but I'll look

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Well I was wrong

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lol

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-CP-9020102-NA/dp/B01B72W0A2

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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I saw a corsair in that pricerange on newegg but I wasn't sure if it'd be compatible, PSUs are kinda new territory for me

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx550m-550w/p/N82E16817139147

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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With the older hardware you have

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PSU's will have everything you need

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and yeah, same one I posted

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That will work!

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Even the connectors? THat's what I was skeptical over

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Yes

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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snap the amazon link is cheaper, too, thanks!

upper moat Dec 24, 2019, 2:19 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-CP-9020103-NA/dp/B078HJ2RCW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=psu&qid=1577153726&sr=8-4&th=1

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this a good deal?

long crag Dec 24, 2019, 3:26 AM

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What is 80+ white? I've never seen that before.

opal night Dec 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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WHite is below bronze

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Lowest efficiency you can get

vocal talon Dec 24, 2019, 4:11 AM

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^

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it goes 80+, white, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, titanium iirc

lofty pewter Dec 24, 2019, 5:11 AM

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@tawny dust @opal night I'd advise against CXM due to coil/fan whine issues