#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 26

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Node 202 is smaller

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but that is also ITX

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 7:58 AM

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but none of the small cases support my hardware

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 7:58 AM

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No one really knows your hardware

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 7:59 AM

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asus x570 itx gtx 1070 strix

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240mm water cooler

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corsair 1000x

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Thats gonna be hard to fit into small case

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1000x is big fella

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:00 AM

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if you're using an AIO then most options would be a microATX or a Cube ITX case

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:00 AM

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i want something portible

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:01 AM

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if you want something portable and easy to pick up to bring around then you don't really have much options unless you build it yourself

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:02 AM

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yea i can do that

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:03 AM

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One of the few "small" cases you could use a 240mm RAD is this https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119331?Item=N82E16811119331

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:04 AM

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i mean do i really need a 240 rad for a 3600?

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 8:05 AM

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I think corsair has some portables that can fit 240mm

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:05 AM

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the best small form factor they still sell is this but you need a low profile CPU cooler like the one's from Noctua

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-node-202-integra-sfx-450w-psu-mini-itx/p/N82E16811352059

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:06 AM

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i dont think a 450w psu will support a gtx 1070

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do u want me to list all the parts i have in my current bulid?

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Should be fine but you can take 550 just in case

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You can approximate on pcpartspicker

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:08 AM

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okey let me make one real quick

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Well 450w would be on the edge 550w would be better but no overclocking to be honest

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Then again with the Node 202 you don't really want to overclock anyways

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Micro case gonna melt if you overclock

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Node 202 is a thin ITX case which you would need this cooler https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0005-00145

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If i remember someone tried that case with the Ryzen cooler and it barely fit

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but also that Noctua cooler cools the CPU about 5c less from the stock Wrath Stealth

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:12 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H9y8rV

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thats my exact bulid besides the psu

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2rtk9G

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i was talking to a guy at micro center and he said that my cooler was too big which is why i went for a liquad cooler

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:15 AM

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If i was to swap almost everything i have to a ITX build it would cost me 600$ Canadian

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:16 AM

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they also said that my 1070 strix wasent a issue

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i want something thats this size 9x14x22

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if its possible

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:18 AM

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@lethal fractal i guess you haven't seen this yet https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-500gb/p/N82E16820147690

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lot cheaper than the 960 on amazon

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and almost doubt the storage

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:19 AM

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right but thats the ssd i am using rn a 250gb one

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:20 AM

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You're using your PC for gaming or a workstation?

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:20 AM

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gaming

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i want to move to all ssd storage

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Thats a dream we will not be able to fulfill anytime soon

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Unless a good deal on 2tb ssd

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:25 AM

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my system is purely for gaming

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i also have a 3.5in hdd

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I have 2.5" SSD's 1 240gb 1 480gb and 1 1tb

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:29 AM

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i still have a dvd drive

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:30 AM

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have mine externally

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:30 AM

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mines internal

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Really you could use something like this and it would be fine https://www.newegg.com/p/105-003Y-00001

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:33 AM

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i actually have one

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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If i was to build into the Node 202 i would need this PSU https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf600-600w/p/N82E16817139155

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it is the only affordable 600w PSU

hollow helm Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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ur not gonna pay 660 for a gtx 1070 huh?

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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oh no

hollow helm Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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thank god

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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i got it for 192 shipped

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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He was only showing what he has

hollow helm Nov 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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was gonna say u could get a 2070 super for that much

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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But really for that case that is the only PSU's you would be using

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going higher like 750w for that type would be spending almost 200$ like this one https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf750-cp-9020186-na-750w/p/N82E16817139080

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But really having a system like that you could put it in a backpack go to your friends place and have a lan party going on

lethal fractal Nov 28, 2019, 8:40 AM

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i dont think i can put all of my hardware in there

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i was thinking 2 node 202s

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combined

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@mortal harbor theres a intel 660p 2tb for 200 us

hollow helm Nov 28, 2019, 10:56 AM

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firecuda is faster

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5k read 4k write

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i think theyre the fastest on the market atm

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https://www.newegg.com/seagate-firecuda-520-1tb/p/N82E16820248108?Description=m.2 firecuda 520&cm_re=m.2_firecuda_520-_-20-248-108-_-Product

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250 for 1tb

quasi inlet Nov 28, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Oof

barren basin Nov 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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But too expensive

mortal harbor Nov 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Xpg is 200 for 2tb

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Sounds good enough for me

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Gonna do full m2 system maybe

rare phoenix Nov 29, 2019, 4:12 AM

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@scenic lance any thoughts good or bad on rosewill?

scenic lance Nov 29, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Rosewill is newegg's house brand. Without exception, one just has to read reviews on PSU's on a model specific basis and remain mindful that even the best reviewer can only make a limited prediction as to whether the PSU will perform reliabily for x years.

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Aris M. is my go-to, jonnyguru is great as well, bit briefer.

rare phoenix Nov 29, 2019, 4:18 AM

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any thoughts on https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147252?sdtid=13637194&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals+LLC&AFFID=208164&AFFNAME=Slickdeals+LLC&ACRID=1&ASUBID=7a6144c011d111eab05636987a0a01ff0INT&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fslickdeals.net%2Ff%2F13637194-alienware-aurora-r8-gaming-desktop-intel-i7-9700k-nvidia-rtx-2080-super-1t-ssd-16gb-ram-1550-465-in-points%3Fv%3D1%26page%3D5&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=208164&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-gukToyUsyio2YHXxYig_wA ? I've been out the case game a while. Last one was an Azza

scenic lance Nov 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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If it looks good to you, sure

rare phoenix Nov 29, 2019, 4:23 AM

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no clue lol I like the room it has, included fans and option for optical drive

hollow helm Nov 29, 2019, 10:05 AM

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will most likely pick this up in january https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-ii-atx-desktop/p/2AM-000Z-00054

bronze steeple Nov 29, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Trying to decide between this case https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-obsidian-series-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811139024 and this one https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-view-71-tempered-glass-rgb-edition-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811133359

long lynx Nov 29, 2019, 2:41 PM

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well

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if I was zack

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which I'm not

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but I have similar opinions

minor portalBOT Nov 29, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Emperor Calus#7825 has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

long lynx Nov 29, 2019, 2:42 PM

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to the view 71

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yes

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Wow ok mee6

sacred latch Nov 29, 2019, 2:46 PM

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personally I would go view 71

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great airflow. and the way the fans are set up once you get a full set looks amazing

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highly expandable case

barren basin Nov 29, 2019, 2:50 PM

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All glass so if that tips over on any sides there goes the side panels

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 3:43 PM

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lol its the side panels youre worried about?

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and yes, 100% agree, view 71

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ive built in one, theres almost too much space and its so easy to work with because of all the space.

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also, just a tip, with a really simple modification, you can easily fit 3 140mm fans in the front

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flat eagle Nov 29, 2019, 6:32 PM

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stop showing off yer dads build.

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 6:41 PM

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it helps them see it in a real life scenario instead of the tiny marketing images they use box

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theo_angry

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im trying to be helpful

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theo_angry

barren basin Nov 29, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Zack i think you are trying to make people jealous than being helpful

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 7:05 PM

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wtf

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if you wanna think that, go ahead

barren basin Nov 29, 2019, 7:06 PM

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It is not thinking that when people says they wish they had that

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 7:07 PM

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what?

barren basin Nov 29, 2019, 7:07 PM

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You wouldn't know you're sleeping at 2am

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 7:08 PM

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your argument just makes 0 sense grammatically

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and ive been sleeping at 11-12

barren basin Nov 29, 2019, 7:08 PM

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yes which you'e not awake at 2am when people are saying things

hushed yoke Nov 29, 2019, 7:09 PM

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i need a translator

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somebody pls help me

rare phoenix Nov 30, 2019, 5:46 AM

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I bought rosewill's full tower nighthawk. I was worried after reading some people talk about "smoke" n stuff, but after reading another person's comment on a youtube vid it appears that may be user error.

junior warren Nov 30, 2019, 1:07 PM

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is anyone avail to chat about a motherboard and power supply to let me know if they are compatable?

full shadow Nov 30, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Do y'all think that I could build a PC on just a flat piece of wood? Don't have a extra$40 for a cheep case lol

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Ive seen a couple cases on a flat surface with a piece of glass over it and I was wondering if it's very hard to do that

flat eagle Nov 30, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I mean... i'd just wait til you have the funds.. honestly.

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147262

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27 bucks, free shipping

full shadow Nov 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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I know. Just kinda asking if it's really hard to do it

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I think it would look cool

flat eagle Nov 30, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I have no idea. kind of depends on your building skills.

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and attention to detail.

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Hello!

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I'm looking for some help with a PSU on newegg.

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I'm wondering it this one: https://www.newegg.ca/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187?Description=SSR-750FX&cm_re=SSR-750FX-_-17-151-187-_-Product

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Is the model Focus GX-750 or the SSR-750FX, as it has both model numbers listed.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:46 AM

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@pine ridge you pick between those.

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I see. My issue is that this item lists two different model numbers in the title info: http://prntscr.com/q4t88t

Lightshot

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flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:49 AM

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not even sure what the difference is between them lol

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when I search for SSR-750FX

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:50 AM

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They're similar, but the GX series is newer and has a different set of cables with it at least.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:50 AM

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the focus GX pops up

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Seasonic's website for the GX- series: https://seasonic.com/focus-gx

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:50 AM

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pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Seasonic's website for the SSR- series: https://seasonic.com/focus-plus-gold#specification

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:51 AM

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both are on the label lol

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Huh, so they're a mixed product stack?

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:52 AM

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You picked a winner I say lol

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:52 AM

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I seem to be doing that a lot lately.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:53 AM

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but yeah I guess as long as you pick the full modular and 650W you get the good cableS?

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Thanks for clarifying where some of that confusion came from.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I honestly dont know

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no worries.

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7year warranty is hella nice

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:54 AM

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The SSR-750FX and GX-750 should both have 10 yr warranties.

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The SSR-750FM will have the 7yr though, if you choose "Focus Gold"

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:03 AM

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ssr-750fx is just the model number following the convention for seasonic's entire lineup - I think

So the answer would be yes, it is

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:06 AM

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😄

long lynx Dec 2, 2019, 2:06 AM

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happy boX

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Does anyone have recommendations for a semi cheap psu that can fit a hp compaq 8100 elite small form factor pc? It needs to be over 500 watt at least

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I don't think you're going to find anything that high wattage for that unusual shaped PSU.

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https://www.newegg.com/solid-gear-flex-80-series-sdgr-flxb-400-400w/p/1HU-008G-00021?Description=small form factor power supply&cm_re=small_form_factor_power_supply-_-9SIA6PW3S08854-_-Product

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maybe????

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why do you need so much wattage on a super old, slimline PC @autumn elm

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:16 AM

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I have upgraded pc parts in it but i dont have a new case for it

long lynx Dec 2, 2019, 2:17 AM

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you're better off trying to get a new case

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:17 AM

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what parts

long lynx Dec 2, 2019, 2:17 AM

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than cramming it into that

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:17 AM

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pretty sure your mobo is designed specifically for that case ain't it?

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so trying to put it in something new would be, eeeeh.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:18 AM

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a new mobo is not a problem, it is the original psu shape that is annoying.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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you really can only do so much to that though.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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it is a fairly typical BTX board (from what i can see)

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Well i have a fried power source because it was using too much power because i have a radeon rx 550 a core i5 processor

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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yes, they are not exactly easy to find, but they are around :)

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Plus 10gb of ram

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It was only a 240 watt psu

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:20 AM

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get a new case Starkiller :)

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I have a limited budget and i still need a new psu

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:21 AM

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you got the option to run it out of the case?

pine ridge Dec 2, 2019, 2:22 AM

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5 gallon buckets are $3 at home depot.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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^

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Maybe. Im looking at using an adapter to use 2 cheap power sources into one

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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yikes

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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dont

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just dont.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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if you are that limited on budget..

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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yes, it is technically possible (fairly simple really). However, do not do that.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I wouldn't even worry about it

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just save up until you can get what you really need.

autumn elm Dec 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Well im on a team for overwatch and i need my pc

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Can go caseless if careful, but double psu is more risky. Especially without a purpose specific load balancer.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:26 AM

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there are 2 .. sane options. Run it outside your case. or run with the psu itself outside the case.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:26 AM

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he could get an itx PSU

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:26 AM

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sfx you mean?

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:26 AM

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yeah that was I was going to say Naed

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but even then.

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that's just asking to trip/fry more stuff.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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we are just digging a deeper hole here

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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hehe

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can only do so much with what he has / wanting to do.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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aye aye

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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I just don't see it happening

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:28 AM

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I would first check if whatever gpu has been transplanted into this pre-built isn't overdrawing power beyond what the spec sheet for the mobo lists. Then look into maybe buying a standard ATX psu that could live outside said current case if upgrading case is not up for consideration.

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:28 AM

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complete build outside of case OR psu outside of case.

flat eagle Dec 2, 2019, 2:28 AM

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most likely is

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:29 AM

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the rx550 pulls fairly hard from the pci-e slot itself

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and that board/psu combo was never meant for that

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:29 AM

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https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/k5YRYjwv4iL3WuNcZXWy2o-650-80.png

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That's worst case ofc, but ya

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

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yes. that is 50-ish directly from the pci-e

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Just hard to give any confident answer to "will these parts dropped into an HP prebuilt not result in combustion" haha

tender root Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

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oh yes

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agreed 100%

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sidenote: such a shame BTX never really took off

dark drum Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 PM

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lol so uh...why a breakout board?

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were those your only options there?

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I mean to be fair I did something similar when I thought my GPU needed more power

scenic lance Dec 2, 2019, 2:35 PM

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HP common slot 750W plat server PSU, I used those for all my gpu miners years ago. The burstcoin4u rigs got supermicro 920wplats 2x on load balancers. $30 a piece 🙂

rare phoenix Dec 3, 2019, 7:00 AM

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@scenic lance do you know a lot about evga psu's? can't remember if you told me you did

scenic lance Dec 3, 2019, 7:01 AM

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what's up

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I have a few, ya

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Hey guys

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Is the PSU in this build good

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

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^^^^

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yep

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Thanks

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I ordered it but I want to confirm

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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650w should be more than enough

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yessir

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I just hope it doesn’t break

inland kite Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yep, its a good PSU as it is and theres no reason it shouldn't work, little bit overrated for non overclocking but, it gives you that room for the future

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yes

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Thanks

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Gold rating is good

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Alright

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Thanks Sm

inland kite Dec 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I mean its a decent corsair and its 80+ gold so, its far from a cheap PSU (quality iwse)

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Will that build be nice for Fortnite, Overwatch, and other games (ik it’s overkill)

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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@scenic lance never go by rating. That says nothing

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@upbeat plank So a few things
-3700x and 3800x perform the same basically due to PBO. So just get 3700x
-x570 is only good for PCIe 4.0 which you arent using, so waste of money
-970 Evo is overpriced. Go for HP EX920 or Sabrent Rocket
-2070S is the same perf as a 5700XT but for 25% more money
-H510 has pretty bad airflow

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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@lofty pewter so I got the CPU, SSD, and MObo for 400 in total for cyber Monday. Was a STEAL. Shouldn’t have gone with 2070S, and ik it has bad airflow but I have to deal with it

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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@upbeat plank what cpu ?

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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R7 3800x

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Got it for like 250

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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god damn, i wish i could do that. i had to go with a 3600 bc there wasnt a deal for 3800x with a micro atx mobo

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i mean if you grabbed the 3800x when it was 3700x normal price, it's a no brainer just for the binning

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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And also since it has a higher stock price

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And it was less than an on sale 3700c

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So yeah

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Facts

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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damn nice

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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So long as you got the 3800x for a same or lower price of the 3700x at the time then it's fine. If the 3700x is cheaper then dont go 3800x. But either way that's good tho

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Yeah exactly

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You’re right

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If it weren’t on sale I would’ve gotten the 3700x since it’s basically the same CPU

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Good good. At last you know what you were doing

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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anyone know any good 240mm am4 socket aio's that arent $130 or more?

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Yeah.

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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240mm AIO is really only for looks and generally with such a price cap a good air cooler will do better in noise normalized perf

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Hei, is my mobo a good one? I know it’s overpriced but it won’t be a bad MObo right

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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MSI didnt do too well on x570

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I dont really know the specifics tho

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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going for aio bc im upgrading from a 4770 with a dell xps 8700 mobo and 12gb ram to a 3600 with new mobo and g skil trident z 16gb ram. and im in a inwin 301. with my current cpu fan i wouldnt be able to fit the ram in, and i feel like an aio would just make things easier

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Well a $20 air cooler can quite easily cool a R5 3600

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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@lofty pewter so it’s gotta risk of breaking?

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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gonna oc tho

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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no

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Oh ok

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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just not that great VRMs compared to other mobos in its price category. Which wont break it as you only have an 8c CPU

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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8 core?

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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If it were a 3950x or something then I'd be a bit worried
3700x/3800x is an 8 core

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Does mine have 8c? Lmfao I’m not that good at the really technical stuff

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So it’ll be fine

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Also what’s a VRM? Sorry for my lack of experience

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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power delivery. In this case it's power delivery to the CPU

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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oh if your all on mobo category. im getting a msi b450 pro-vdh max micro-atx, is that a good deal for $80 or can i get a better deal?

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@lofty pewter so it’s enough to power my CPU fully

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??

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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@upbeat plank yes
@valid steeple It's eh.

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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oh dam, he just double whammied us lol

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any reccomendations for a mobo then mr hei?

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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need to be mATX?

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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yeah

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and im getting a 3600 so its gotta be compatible with ryzen 3000 out of box

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

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How many frames in Overwatch and FN

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?

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Like a prediction

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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you should go for some of that juicy rgb ram

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its only like $3 more

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Lmao yea

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@upbeat plank is that a gaming only build?

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@valid steeple okay wait no. It;s pretty decent

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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and oh dam you getting a rtx 2070 super too? your gonna dominate everything

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@lofty pewter oh, ill stick with it then

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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@vocal talon yessir

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@valid steeple oh bet

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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@upbeat plank depends on settings, resolution, Hz of display if you are going to use vsync

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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No Vsync, all low settings, 1080p, 144hz but I will be upgrading

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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@lofty pewter https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fZH7Rk thats what im going for my upgrade can u think of any tweaks or am i good? im tryina stay below $430 ish

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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@upbeat plank have you already bought the parts?

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Yes, why?

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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nvm

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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rip the rgb ram dream lol

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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No just say it @vocal talon

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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i was gonna say what should be swapped for gaming

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if its 100% for gaming i'd probably say get a 9700k, but its still a solid build for 1440p 144hz

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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What should be swapper

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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@valid steeple need RGB RAM? Cuz non RGB RAM is for $70 and quite a bit better. I also wouldnt go with such a cheap AIO as even a small air cooler, like standard 120mm one, generally performs better in noise normalized perf

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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It’s 1080p and I also photo and video edit @vocal talon

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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ic nvm then

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Yea

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Thank you tho

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@lofty pewter i mean $7 more for rgb ram isnt that big of a deal for me, and ill keep in mind what you said about the aio

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@lofty pewter you can even get rgb 3200mhz cl16 ram for like $60, and 120mm aio's are usually worse than $50 air coolers like the mugen 5 rev b

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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was going for a 240mm aio by coolermaster @vocal talon

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its $53 rn

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@valid steeple $70 for better RAM, not the same RAM perf. That RAM perf is like $50

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Fortnite on low settings, 1080p? How many frames do you guys think I’ll run ^^ @lofty pewter

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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a lot

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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on low, like alot. more than you will ever need lol

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I wanna get a consistent 240

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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and hei, what reccomendations for ram then? i just went with it bc my pc currently got rgb fans so i wanted to build on the rgb aesthetic

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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For $70 there is the Gskill 3600MHz CL16 RAM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

valid steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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i dunt see it on pcpart picker

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oh there it is

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Is 3200 MHz gonna be enough

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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yeah, but as 3600 isnt that much more, might as well go with it

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Mhm ur right too late for me

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Lol

vocal talon Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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just make sure it's lower than cl16 and you should be fine

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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What does that mean

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Lol

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It’s CL16 :(

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Is that bad

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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100% make sure it's <= 18 on 3600 as if CL is > 18 then the infinity fabric goes out of sync with the RAM making the high speeds useless as a speed benefit
@upbeat plank It's fine

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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So I’ll be okay

minor portalBOT Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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F/A Elmo#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@minor portal get a friend

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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If your CL is <=16 then you're fine with 3600MHz or lower

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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@vocal talon

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Also I’m worried about my case airflow

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Will it bottleneck my pc if it has bad airflow

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:31 PM

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the case is okay enough for airflow. It wont cause any real issues

upbeat plank Dec 5, 2019, 9:31 PM

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👍

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Thanks so much

vagrant notch Dec 5, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Anyone know of a place to get the Raijintek Styx cheaper than the newegg price?

glossy glacier Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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any good budget cases?

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Anyone know what psu I should get for my setup? I’m using 2070 super with i7 9700k and I need to know how much extra energy 5.0 ghz overclock plus GPU overclock I would need

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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I think EVGA has a calculator for that

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Dont use a calculator

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most of them dont work well

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2070S is like 250w - 300w power consumption

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9700k is probably like 150w

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Should I go for a 600w? Or is that too little for overclocking

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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If Jayz videos have taught me something is that always go for x1.75 times your current Wattage usage

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specially when high grade components are involved

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... x1.6 as a minimum, btw

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Thanks

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@solid portal That's kinda eh

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@scenic lance 600w is fine

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Ok

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Well, if you're currently consuming 400W you're pretty much aiming for a 600~700W PSU

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when overclocking

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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If you're saying it's for efficiency, that's 2% difference going from efficiency peak to max load

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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for the majority, you don't want to risk going under-wattage either.

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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You also arent going to do LN2 overclocking so that 9700k isnt going to consume more than 250w

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cuz 250w is like 5GHz 9900k

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Newegg says that non overclocked my selections would be consuming just under 400

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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550w - 600w is perfectly fine

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Wait I’m an idiot monitors don’t consume any power from pcs right

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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if you can find a 690W PSU, thatsnice

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No but the higher the load you run the more wattage your GPU will draw

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Thanks

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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No, not really. You dont suddenly consume 300 more watts for basic OCing

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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monkaHmm

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unless tr

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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TR being an exception

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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:)

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no exceptions

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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exceptions = heresy

lofty pewter Dec 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Well then do a 10980Xe on LN2 OCing

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pretty sure that'd be a 2.25x rather than a 1.75x

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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epyc

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that a lotta watts

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mmLol

clear summit Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Is building my first system in a h210 a good idea?

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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peepoWow

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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is it an itx mobo

solid portal Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Is it a cookie?

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Perhaps

clear summit Dec 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Yes mini ITX

olive swift Dec 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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then i dont see why not

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just be aware it only comes with 2 fans thatsok

clear summit Dec 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Thanks

scenic lance Dec 5, 2019, 11:03 PM

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What price for the h210?

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:20 AM

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vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:20 AM

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brick

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:21 AM

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I wanna slap one of those together.

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yea its only 3.7L - 4.1L

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can barely fit anything

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But you CAN fit a system

vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:21 AM

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itx?

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Mini ITX yee

vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 AM

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ah

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 AM

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https://www.velkase.com/products/velka-3

VELKASE

Velka 3 computer case — VELKASE

Click here for pre-order options The world’s smallest case with dual slot ITX graphics card and internal power supply support. The latest revision 1.2 features support for passively cooled power supplies by HDPLEX and MiniBox. 3.7 - 4.1 L volume, 180 cm^2 footprint ...

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 AM

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but why 🤔

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 AM

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If you wanna see someone do a build with it LTT did one

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmb5h1lN-w&t=842s

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

Our Smallest Gaming PC Build EVER! - Velkase Velka 3

Use code LTTANKER14 to get 15% off on the Anker PowerPort Atom Slim on Amazon at https://s.krpax.com/r/tilIoH or check out their main website https://lmg.gg/...

▶ Play video

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Because like I could just throw it in a back pack with a mouse and keyboard

vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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turns out there's a full size gpu in it

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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can it run minecraft at 1000 fps?

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Yep.

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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POGGERS

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Its a ryzen 3700x and RTX2060

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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wait

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thats like

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 AM

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so its ballin

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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nuts

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Its crazy

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watch the video its even crazier than it sounds

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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omg

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that mini itx

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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You have to literally smash some of it in 😹

minor portalBOT Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Wonderful Day#5480 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Wonderful Day#5480 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:24 AM

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OOP

vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:25 AM

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smh naughty word

north oyster Dec 6, 2019, 7:26 AM

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yep

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:33 AM

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woah im back

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freedom yaygif

tacit wren Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 AM

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MEE6 gets a bit trigger happy sometimes.

vocal tree Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 AM

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well

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that's MEE6

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 AM

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i get a little trigger happy with my choice of words too

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MonkaS

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:07 AM

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i think theyve always been decently expensive for a good unit tbh

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is it gold rated?

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oh damn ok

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that is quite pricey

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how peculiar

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wait, is that also USD?

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im in canada

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a 500w evga bronze is like $60 here

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around this time

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60 cad*

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Im trying to build a pc for my sister and i need a case any ideas?

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@scenic lance thanks

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:12 AM

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how much u tryna spend

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and does it need to be pretty

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:12 AM

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max 250 on the case

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yes as pretty as it can be

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:13 AM

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oh damn ok

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:13 AM

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doesnt have to be too flashy though

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she doesnt really like a lot of bright rgb

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@scenic lance thanks

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i actually am going micro atx

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im goint to put a ryzen 5 3600 and a tuf Gaming X570-Plus

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going*

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lol

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but is there any other cases youd recomend for her

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you'd*

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ok

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yes

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imma get that for her

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@scenic lance thanks

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:17 AM

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thats a cute case

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GnarUWU

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:17 AM

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i like this case a lot

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i need a new case too

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i have a case from 2006

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lol

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yes she does

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im giving her a 2070 super

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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wowwie

minor portalBOT Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Sponge#8981 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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^

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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its for her birthday

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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lol

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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????? bad word?????

blazing obsidian Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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what did u say 👀

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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yeah ok mee6 boomer boiiii

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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so i won't say snything similar

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:20 AM

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@scenic lance any recommendations for and e-atx case? i want it super flashy

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oh ok

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ill looks

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look*

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:21 AM

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@south ruin did you see the snowblind case?

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:22 AM

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yeah thats the main reason im here

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lol

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tryna get that build

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:22 AM

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😛

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:22 AM

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so i can give that to my sister instead of making one lol

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saves a lot of money and time

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:23 AM

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ofc 🙂

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:23 AM

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what does that mean

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lol

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ooooh

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i found a nice case for 100

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ok

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TC6SGRH

charred flower Dec 6, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Dude, that's not PG-13

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:25 AM

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@scenic lance https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TC6SGRH

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no i mean like its a good case when you put rgb fans in it

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and all the bells and whistles ofc

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yours

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?

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squidward one?

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@urban crest whered you go?

lofty pewter Dec 6, 2019, 8:40 AM

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@south ruin airflow is pretty bad tho

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:41 AM

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i know. thats the thing i hate the most but itll be fine if i have positive pressure

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@lofty pewter

lofty pewter Dec 6, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Also you doing watercooling or air cooler? Air wont flow nicely in there for an aircooler so temps will rise even further for it

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As the intakes would just blast the air into the side of the panel instead of at the cooler

south ruin Dec 6, 2019, 8:44 AM

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loop and i know but it looks so good

hot mica Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 PM

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So a while ago I managed to get a hold of a Z170 mobo to try OCing a non-K Skylake for a bit of fun and experimenting. However, I'm now looking to use this as a potential second computer rather than a fun tinkering system. Is it still worth to get a non-K i5 Skylake CPU, or is my best bet to play it safe and get a K-series CPU (Looking at 6600K and 7600K)? I'll mostly be using it for gaming and I'm looking for best price to performance

flat eagle Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 PM

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can't oc non K.

hot mica Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I could also go 6700K or 7700K, but I feel like the price differences for hyperthreading might not be worth it.

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You can OC non-K Skylake on z170 with older BIOS.

worldly dust Dec 6, 2019, 2:25 PM

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how much more is a 6700k because that would be a solid system for gaming

hot mica Dec 6, 2019, 2:29 PM

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£200, whereas a 6600 (non-K) is going as low as £85.

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A 6600K is currently about £120.

primal vine Dec 6, 2019, 2:36 PM

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is a higher watt psu better for a lower watt pc?

worldly dust Dec 6, 2019, 2:36 PM

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for noise it is

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a high watt psu running a low watt pc will be much quieter than a low watt psu running a low watt pc

scenic lance Dec 6, 2019, 3:13 PM

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if I get the snowblind case, how bad will my temps be

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rn i have the nzxt h500

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i get that it wont improve obviously

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but like how bad will the difference be

worldly dust Dec 6, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I dont think you will notice that much of a difference

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its a pretty roomy case with decent airflow

rare phoenix Dec 6, 2019, 4:49 PM

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with https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147252?Item=N82E16811147252 I don't need any ssd brackets, right?

flat eagle Dec 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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rare phoenix Dec 6, 2019, 5:03 PM

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beautiful.

sick verge Dec 6, 2019, 7:04 PM

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anyone got suggestions for cases like fractals 202?

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want a horizontal case that doesnt yell gamer fuel at the top of its lungs looks at silverstone's rvz

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probably end up propping it up on legs so my kb fits under it and a monitor on top is the plan

sick verge Dec 6, 2019, 7:36 PM

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guess not huh

scenic lance Dec 6, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Do you like the 4u form factor?

sick verge Dec 6, 2019, 7:41 PM

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bit too big

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just mill out a server rack lul

tacit wigeon Dec 6, 2019, 7:51 PM

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i just got a 2060super but my power supply is only 450w do i need to upgrade?

sick verge Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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might need an undervolt, depends on cpu

tacit wigeon Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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cpu is ryzen52600

scenic lance Dec 6, 2019, 7:54 PM

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It would be a smart idea yes. Like a750W gold with good reviews from Tomshardware/techpowerup/jonnyguru

tacit wigeon Dec 6, 2019, 7:54 PM

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ok

fast mesa Dec 6, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Does anyone know when the Asus ROG Strix Helios GX601 will be back in stock?

solemn path Dec 7, 2019, 12:51 AM

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whats the best 650W gold psu

lofty pewter Dec 7, 2019, 1:07 AM

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for what kind of price?

ebon ingot Dec 7, 2019, 1:40 AM

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A modular one 😂

little juniper Dec 7, 2019, 4:00 AM

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What do y'all think about this case? https://www.newegg.com/matte-white-black-nzxt-h-series-h510i-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811146320?Description=510i&cm_re=510i-_-11-146-320-_-Product

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 4:01 AM

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very clean

sick verge Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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i wanted to build in that once

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but then i discovered that sff and htpc cases exist

pearl star Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Anyone have any good recommendations for GPU to pair with the MSI G27C4 165Hz 1080p?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c7qgBZ is the full build

sick verge Dec 7, 2019, 4:08 AM

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5500/xt? maybe wait for their midrange refresh too since its a freesync pannel? should have enough to drive 1080 165 i'd say.
||maybe||

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god i love everything about this case but i have no room ;-;
https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/sm550/

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if only rvz03 didnt look so damn edgy

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I'd even be down to getting it and stripping the front panel off and 3d printing something more... civilized?

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 4:20 AM

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I really like this one but I never ended up getting one

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https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-level-20-vt-extreme-micro-atx-cube-chassis/p/N82E16811133380?Description=level 20 vt&cm_re=level_20_vt-_-11-133-380-_-Product

sick verge Dec 7, 2019, 4:20 AM

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yikes thats huge

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ngl looks like an aquarium

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 4:21 AM

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it would fit my custom loop very nicely

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but then I would have to move it so...

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and its cheap thats only $100

sick verge Dec 7, 2019, 4:28 AM

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can you get like

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those magnetic dust meshes anywhere

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i think i decided to go with the slinger but i dont want to clean the thing every week with how large the vents are

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ooh word

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https://www.demcifilter.com/sliger-sm550?orderby=15

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no side ones tho

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just go with temper glass or keep looking for some filters? anyone have this thing who can comment on thermals?

muted urchin Dec 7, 2019, 5:34 AM

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i'm sure I'm not the only one that has arrived here via the LTT giveaway of that sweet Snowblind system... I REALLY want that case... but i can't seem to find anywhere that sells it for Australia..... I seriously need this in my life.... anybody have any thoughts? I Really don't want have to pay to ship it over from the USA and double the costs of the Case...

rotund lintel Dec 7, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Upgraded my system taking advantage of some sales and just got through most of the build till I hit a point I’m unfamiliar with. My new Gigabyte Master mother board has two psu power supply ports but my old HX750 only supplies one. On the back of the psu it says 4x4 psu but that cable was not supplied. Can I simply put in a ticket with Corsair for one or is my old psu just not up to the power demand of this new mbo?

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Consult the manual regarding power supply able requirements. Even then, extras / cablemods are always nie to have on hand. Could also order a set

scenic crater Dec 7, 2019, 10:00 AM

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@muted urchin unfortunately it does look like that’s your only choice at the moment unless you look around possibly craigslist or something similar to see if someone regional is selling theirs.

muted urchin Dec 7, 2019, 1:30 PM

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well....i can't afford it now.... so i'll wait and hope somebody starts importing them......

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨

lofty pewter Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM

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@rotund lintel You mean two 8 pin EPS ports? Or 8 + 4 EPS ports on the mobo (for CPU)?

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What's you CPU?

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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so i just bought the EVGA 500 BR psu with a 3-year warranty for my PC for 49.99 was this ok buy for the power supply itself?

lofty pewter Dec 7, 2019, 8:15 PM

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no
BR has low temperature tolerance of about 30c. Even places like Canada which isnt known for being a hot place can exeed those temps
Also it's group regulated. Meaning using an okay amount of power on the 5v or 12v rail will effect the rail that isnt being hit hard (generally 12v is being hit causing 5v to go too high). This causes instabilities for the PC and over long term instabilities can cause damage to your PC

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@scenic lance

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 9:46 PM

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huh well it said it had over temp protection

glossy glacier Dec 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

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thoughts on the Rosewill Prism S?

pine solstice Dec 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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can a 1500va /900w ups system have a 1000w psu plugged into safely

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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yes - but only if you ever plan to draw something like 500? (conservatively) watts from the psu.

pine solstice Dec 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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why only 500watts

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@UCA#555 why only 500 watts

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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efficiency I assume

pine solstice Dec 7, 2019, 10:42 PM

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if my psu is is 90% efficient

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then would it be reasonable to say i could plug that psu (assuming full load)

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:44 PM

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yes...

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PSUs usually run into trouble at 1-19% load efficiency wise if they are at least 80% rated

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So at like a 20%+ load it would still maintain 80% efficiency or better at least thats how I understand it

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and I think a 90% efficient one is just 90% or better efficient assuming a 20% or more load

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 10:47 PM

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https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/scN8iHKHwkzi7KeXm7ATg5-970-80.jpg

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:48 PM

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so on that chart at around 200 watts they both become very efficient

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I'm not really sure why @scenic lance doesnt think you should draw more than 500w from a 1000w psu

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

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When it's connected to a 900w UPS , can't give a confident recommendation without any more info

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

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ah

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Depends on UPS type, pure sine, at worst, square wave cheapo, and type of PSU as well, active clamp, group regulated, could have a 2000's level power factor correction

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:53 PM

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your probably right I would just assume it would be fine because 1500va is more than it should ever draw anyway even with the 900w limitation

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only need like what 1100va for a 1000w

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I am a computer electrical engineer by trade but its been a long time since school and use my talents to troubleshoot beverage dispensers LOL

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 10:57 PM

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haha CompE here too, but if it's a 900w PSU, and the UPS has a 900w rating, until the users specifies model, I'm gonna assume near worst case, say 80+ bronze and that's even a bit optimistic

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 10:58 PM

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yeah thats true

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@scenic lance do you get to do something exciting? My original plan was to work on computer parts when I first went to school. But then I got an apprenticeship at Bunn Capital and I've been with them ever since.

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Still in school, so that depends on one's interpretation of "exciting" , but I tell people most of our work/labs are writing code for 4 hours to make lights blink a special way.

worldly dust Dec 7, 2019, 11:01 PM

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LOL that sounds about right

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good luck its a great career path with many options

scenic lance Dec 7, 2019, 11:41 PM

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is a fractal meshify C good?

hushed yoke Dec 7, 2019, 11:43 PM

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yes

barren basin Dec 7, 2019, 11:46 PM

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yes

flat eagle Dec 7, 2019, 11:51 PM

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eh

jolly kestrel Dec 8, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Hey guys who can help me? I wanna upgrade my Graphics card but dont know if my psu and motherboard is available to fit and work etc.

rain shell Dec 8, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@jolly kestrel if you go to pc part picker and build your pc on there with the upgrades you want it will show you compatibility if your current PSU is strong enough

glossy glacier Dec 8, 2019, 12:40 AM

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thoughts on the Rosewill Prism S Mid Tower?

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Rosewill is a house-brand by Newegg right?

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@glossy glacier

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:47 AM

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It's great

📎 20190824_034346_HDR.jpg

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the 4 fans included keeps everything super cool

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:48 AM

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nice

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:49 AM

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@glossy glacier you can see from my image

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:49 AM

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how much does the tower cost

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:49 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298

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For it having 4 RGB fans included it is well worth it

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:50 AM

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dang, that's not bad for $75

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:50 AM

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You can fit in it 6 drives or 4 drives and a 240mm AIO

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:50 AM

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question is just whether its durable

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Been using it since August so no complaints

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:51 AM

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fair

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not gonna matter for me, i asked for a pre-built desktop for christmas so

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:51 AM

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bottom dust filter is easy to remove and put back without moving the case

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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my parents spend 500 per kid and i'm owed for 60 hours of labor so i figured might as well combine them and get a nice desktop for christmas to go with my laptop

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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I have a semi gaming laptop

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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wym

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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it is able to play Overwatch, Doom (at high with Vulkan), and Diablo 3

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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what laptop is it

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:54 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834316236

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easier than typing everything

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Also i replaced the 1TB HDD with a 480gb SSD

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:55 AM

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fair

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that was confusing to look at

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:56 AM

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it is great for what it is but i might replace it for an actual gaming laptop

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most likely going for this https://www.newegg.com/black-force-asus-tuf-gaming-fx505dt-eb73-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834235185

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:57 AM

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good option

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Well i have a rule to never own a laptop better than my desktop

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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same

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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if i was to do that i would then just sell my desktop

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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It doesn't make sense to do so

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exactly!

flat eagle Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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but

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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There are people that would disagree

flat eagle Dec 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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.>

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 2:59 AM

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some likes having something just as powerful or more powerful so they can you know game anywhere and then use their desktop for everything else

flat eagle Dec 8, 2019, 3:00 AM

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WhY NoT jUsT cOnSoLE

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:00 AM

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i like having a portable but weaker machine that just runs all my games at 1080p and 50fps, but i want to have a home-base beast that can run 1440p and 4k

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Box you take that back 😛

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:01 AM

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console is great but i'd prefer to be able to play garry's mod and battlefield on the same machine

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:01 AM

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The only way i would suggest 4K if 8K was out and 4K was the norm

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:02 AM

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fair

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4k is one of those fine-taste things

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:02 AM

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that would most likely be in 5 - 6 years

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:02 AM

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And the rtx 2070 desktop i'm looking at should be able to probably run 4k at maybe 45fps?

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:02 AM

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for monitor wise it is expensive but for TV it is just fine

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2070 non Super i think more like 30

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:03 AM

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F

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:03 AM

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But id say to do 1440p

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:03 AM

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so i'd have to turn off ray tracing or tone down settings on games

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and yeah 1440p

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but i might get a 4k monitor eventually so i can stream media and play less intensive games at 4k

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Well you could also if you want use a 1440p monitor for gaming and have right next to it a 4K TV for all the media

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:05 AM

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true, true

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I wont be using my 4K TV when i get it on my PC as a second screen because i have the Nvidia Shield which is a 4K android TV box

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:06 AM

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but that probably isn't cost effective, and if you go to build pics you'll see that my setup is cramped

barren basin Dec 8, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Well if you have enough room to fit a small like table you could extend your desk

drifting sonnet Dec 8, 2019, 3:08 AM

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true but the room is small too and i sleep on the floor right next to my desk

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it's a cramped but cozy place

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anyway we should probably take this out of this channel now that i think about it @barren basin

pearl ocean Dec 8, 2019, 4:32 AM

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BEST CASES FOR GAMING?

next mesa Dec 8, 2019, 4:45 AM

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This is what I have and it's the best you'll find in $100 price range.

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854069

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Couple different models to choose from as well

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@drifting sonnet

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oops

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I mean @pearl ocean

pearl ocean Dec 8, 2019, 4:51 AM

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ok tks

primal remnant Dec 8, 2019, 6:21 AM

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the full range of fractal design's define cases are good if you don't need a full tower, since they kind of stopped making those and they're hard to find and expensive now

scenic lance Dec 8, 2019, 8:24 AM

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found out that according to pcpartpicker my favorite case is no longer being sold Dumb

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u know what that means

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time to put every main build i ever make in my Core X9 and needlessly flex on my friends about having a discontinued case

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NYEHE

inland kite Dec 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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PSU recommendation for the X570?

flat eagle Dec 8, 2019, 1:26 PM

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eh? that factors on your cpu/gpu/everythingelse :p

inland kite Dec 8, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Well I'm more getting into the X570 not nessecarily requiring but benefiting OC-wise down the line of an additional 4-pin connector

meager quarry Dec 8, 2019, 1:34 PM

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 6.2 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @PSUGuru, @Ave with a model o and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 2-12-2019 Tiering of various units is opinion based off re...

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take a look at this @inland kite

primal remnant Dec 8, 2019, 3:58 PM

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the reason i can't deal with that tier list is because it recommends units that are not fully modular

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i love my RM750 😄

lofty pewter Dec 8, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@inland kite additional 4 pin is a gimmick. No AM4 CPU requires or needs 280w+ which is what the 8 pin EPS supplies

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@primal remnant because modular doesn't mean quality tho. For example CXM is worse than CX on Corsair's side

scenic lance Dec 8, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Well that list sure changed a lot

amber forum Dec 8, 2019, 6:14 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191208-211339_Chrome.jpg

primal remnant Dec 8, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@lofty pewter this is why I bought an RM, because of this exact issue

lofty pewter Dec 8, 2019, 10:12 PM

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yee

scenic lance Dec 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I need a reliable atx case for £70 and must be red

scenic lance Dec 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@everyone

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Is this worth it

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📎 image0.png

flat eagle Dec 8, 2019, 11:24 PM

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did you really just try to @ everyone

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lul

scenic lance Dec 9, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Yes I’m sorry

flat eagle Dec 9, 2019, 12:32 AM

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wll thank goodness it's disabled, you would have pinged over 75,000 people.

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like kicking a beehive.

barren basin Dec 9, 2019, 12:36 AM

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and about 70,000 of them are active and not lurking lol

velvet wyvern Dec 9, 2019, 12:55 AM

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This chat would get spammed to the shadow realm

vocal talon Dec 9, 2019, 12:58 AM

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ReEeE pInG bAn

drifting sonnet Dec 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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sweet jesus

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thank every lord there ever was we don't enable the ability to @ everyone

fossil tree Dec 9, 2019, 2:40 AM

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@scenic lance thats not a good psu tho

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this would be better https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B72W0A2?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

broken solar Dec 9, 2019, 2:43 AM

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unless your case hides your PSU along with most of its cables, in which case a Non-modular should be fine

fossil tree Dec 9, 2019, 2:49 AM

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the problem with non modular is it actually supporting your stuff

snow seal Dec 9, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I have a 1660 to and a 2600x

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With after market cooler

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What is reccomended wattage for psu

elfin trout Dec 9, 2019, 2:29 PM

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500 should be fine

lofty pewter Dec 9, 2019, 7:10 PM

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If you have very little money then 450w. Tho I suggest 550w cuz of upgradability

hushed yoke Dec 9, 2019, 7:37 PM

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i recommend 550

vocal tree Dec 9, 2019, 7:37 PM

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650 for efficiency

lofty pewter Dec 9, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Efficiency is a scam. You get 2% more efficiency going from 90% load to 50% load

sacred latch Dec 9, 2019, 8:28 PM

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1600 so you cant fit it in your case and have to duct tape it to the top

elfin trout Dec 9, 2019, 8:54 PM

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2100 because go big or go home

jolly kestrel Dec 9, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Hey guys how can I get max watts out of my PSU, I’ve heard it’s only 700w but there’s only 573w only being used or something like that.

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Please @ me

pure torrent Dec 9, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@jolly kestrel Not sure what exactly you are asking. Your PC components will only draw as much power as they need.

jolly kestrel Dec 9, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@pure torrent alright nvm

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I brought. 700w today

elfin trout Dec 9, 2019, 11:07 PM

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What do yall think of the cooler master h500

lofty pewter Dec 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@jolly kestrel You cant really tho. Some PSUs just dont have the full rated wattage on the 12v rail. Your PSU is only rated for having 576w on the 12v rail and that is a physical barrier. Only way to get around it is with a new PSU. Tho, even a 3700x and 2080Ti wont use up that much on the 12v rail so you dont really need to worry about it anyways

jolly kestrel Dec 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Alright

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Thanks @lofty pewter much love

scenic lance Dec 10, 2019, 12:31 AM

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is the Rosewill lepton 700 worth it? its 80+ gold and like 65$. i have it just haven't seen many recent reviews and haven't installed it yet.

vocal tree Dec 10, 2019, 12:37 AM

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gigawat so you can strap your neighborhood to it

pure shell Dec 11, 2019, 3:00 AM

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so i was gonna get the phanteks p400a dig., but they keep mysteriously disappearing from inventories nomatter where i shop...idk when they will be back in stock so i kinda need a new case. ill drop my pcpartpicker build list in here if it will help

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Yeah, the black is sold out

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Black Friday special maybe?

pure shell Dec 11, 2019, 3:15 AM

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nah, theyve just seemed hard to hit for a while

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not even that popular of a case from what i can tell

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Must be if they're sold out everywhere lol

pure shell Dec 11, 2019, 3:22 AM

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alright, anyone know much about the phanteks enthoo pro m tg? seems to be a bigger case and such, but idk the details about it

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might be a suitable replacement for the p400a dig

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good case or nah? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Q5MFX5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

surreal magnet Dec 11, 2019, 3:32 AM

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it looks like a decent case

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it has great front airflow

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im unsure of the actual construction quality, go look on youtube for some reviews of the case

azure steeple Dec 11, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I know one thing

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If reviews are good

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I want it too

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I don't really rely on reviews

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because

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sometimes they're just

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stupid ya know

azure steeple Dec 11, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Yeah

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But sometime

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The product look good

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But it's

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Stupid ya know

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But you don't know

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Unless you look at reviews

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Well, the build pics I see of that case seems fine to me

surreal magnet Dec 11, 2019, 3:50 AM

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lol, im not saying go look at the review to make a desision, im saying you get a better feel for what the case actually looks like when you can see a person holding and rotating it in 3d space

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a stock image doesnt really do a case justice, and can look a lot different that the acutal thing, quality wise

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 3:51 AM

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oh youtube reviews

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I was thinking reviews below the product on the page

surreal magnet Dec 11, 2019, 3:51 AM

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yeah, when the dude pulls the case out and throws it around for 10 mins

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LOL, those are terrible

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 3:51 AM

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yeah

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was concerned for a minute 😔

surreal magnet Dec 11, 2019, 3:52 AM

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ok, I see what your saying, and i wholeheartedly agree

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people funny sometimes tho when you read those

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 3:52 AM

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tru xd

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I was looking at Nintendo Switch reviews once, it was all over the place lol

azure steeple Dec 11, 2019, 3:53 AM

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It's because it's a mobile console

pure shell Dec 11, 2019, 3:58 AM

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case toss reviews....the pc version of mobile drop tests

faint solstice Dec 11, 2019, 5:43 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QY28T5Q?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
What do you guys think of this case? Seems nice for a budget build but im no case expert

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its pretty new and i couldnt really find any reviews of it. Do you think its worth buying?

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Hi guys, I'm running two gaming pc's from one single 2 plug outlet (through surge protectors) and I'm wondering if that is safe or is it better to run from separate outlets?

sonic quail Dec 11, 2019, 6:41 AM

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What cpu/gpu in each?

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:42 AM

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4790k with RX 570 and 2700X with RX 590

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:42 AM

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my knowledge of amps, watts and volts is fudged so I probably can't say Dumb

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Lol I don't fully understand it either. I did actually replace the outlet myself cause it originally didn't have a ground

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:44 AM

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o dang

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:44 AM

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I do have a second outlet available but it also needs to be replaced

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:44 AM

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ah

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I think it's probably a good idea to use two different outlets

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not sure what load an outlet can handle

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but most relocatable strips say something like 15A

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I think

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:46 AM

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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I'm not sure either especially including two monitors on top of that.

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:47 AM

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so from that I would guess you need to add up all the amps your devices are uh... pulling? and see how it compares to the max load on your strip/outlet

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 6:47 AM

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You'd get cleaner power from a single outlet per PC. But you don't do LN2 OCing with some PC that's consuming 1000w+ of power

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Most houses including mine are 15 amp I think

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Lol ok thank you @lofty pewter I guess I'm replacing the other outlet tonight :)

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Eh. It's not worth it due to what I said

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You'd legit have to be living on the edge for stability of the PC to notice a difference

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Basically, LN2 OCing

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Oh okay, I see what you mean.

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I don't run near 1000 watts. maybe close with both machines together

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Pretty sure max of 880w of both PCs before efficiencies

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But that is CPU, GPU, lots of high powered USB, lots of drives, etc

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Ok I don't use more than one other USB port besides keyboard and mouse and each machine has 1 NVMe and 1 sata ssd.

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I do have mechanical drives for backups but I don't plug in unless necessary.

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I think they use more power than ssd or nvme

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 6:57 AM

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SSD is 10w max and HDD is 20w max iirc

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Wow that's a big difference.

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Well, that's what happens when you don't need to have moving parts

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Makes sense.

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I really want to get one of those digital watt meters to see how much each pc is actually using.

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I'm curious

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Yee. Don't know how much they cost tho. Or what's good / bad

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 7:02 AM

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I saw one on Newegg a while back. I think it was about $20 and had good reviews. I'll see if I can find it again.

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Here it is.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16882715001

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Can anyone recommend me some cheap 550watt+ psu's that won't fry my system? (Ryzen 5 2600, rx 5700) PSU prices seem brutal right now.

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I swear they're higher than they used to be.

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Corsair CX-M is one of the best budget psu's I know of

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Has quality components.

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16817139147

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Here

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I run SeaSonic in both my pc's but they're not that cheap.

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It's definitely worth spending a bit extra to get the Corsair CX-M than going with a no name brand. I've read so many horror stories about people using cheap junk cause they don't realize the importance of having a good quality psu.

sonic quail Dec 11, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Watt seems to be the question?

vocal tree Dec 11, 2019, 7:22 AM

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ThinkingEgg

next mesa Dec 11, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Lol

primal remnant Dec 11, 2019, 7:36 AM

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i have an RM750 2019

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i bought it mainly on a "because i can" basis

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i'd recommend an RM550x or whatever it is though for sure - you may not require modular in that case you want the CX-M

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx550m-550w/p/N82E16817139147 ooh actually it's a semi-modular? i should have gotten the CX-M 😦

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semi-modular power supplies have served me well for years

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this is my first full modular

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yeah that'd have saved me $25 or something

pure shell Dec 11, 2019, 12:47 PM

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So I decided to get the enthoo m pro tg with rgb since the phanteks p400a keeps flying off the shelves and I cant get the case with all of my parts already at the house

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I liked the rgb on the other case better but just couldnt ever get it

tender root Dec 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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@steel portal you ask for a cheap "heart" to your system. Do you honestly think that is a good idea?

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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$50 for a 550w. Doesn't seem a terrible price. https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0550-L1/dp/B01LYGJL0E?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_9

tender root Dec 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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let us do the math on that one.

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that psu has a 2 year warranty.

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a 10 year seasonic does not have to cost 5 times as much. (edit: extra words removed)

full maple Dec 11, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Are there any good cases with integrated water cooling? If there are, does it make water cooling easier?

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Integrated water cooling? Not ot my knowledge. Start with an AIO for the CPU if you want to "get your feet wet". Or a water cooling kit from someone like EK water blocks

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Well, it looks like Deepcool does after all with a pre-installed 240mm radiator. Doesn't really make it any easier though. Installing an AIO is no more difficult than screwing in fans.

primal remnant Dec 11, 2019, 3:51 PM

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just talking about AIOs in the CPU channel

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i don't know how to install an AIO admittedly

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except

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"big long screws"

tender root Dec 11, 2019, 3:53 PM

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@full maple there are a few boutique custom cases that are built with WC heavily in mind. There is that Australian company that i cant remember the name of for one.

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however, they are very expensive

opal cypress Dec 11, 2019, 4:12 PM

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so, whats a pretty solid price to performance 600W psu this 2019?

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anything above bronze but sadly i wont be able to afford the pricey ones for enthusiasts

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though i do really need a psu that give a stable power delivery since i found it was the sole reason my CAD crashes now and then while my laptop from 2009 doesnt

torpid beacon Dec 11, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Hey I’ve got an FSP350/40UGBBD psu, I know it’s a 350w psu. My question is, is there anything I can upgrade this to? Links provided? Something such as a 650+ would be great. TIA.

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 7:41 PM

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@tender root No, I said the cheapest that won't fry my system. Specifically. ThinkingEgg

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PSU prices are brutal right now, dunno what's going on with that.

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:02 PM

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probably some tariff increase aftermath

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It should level out again

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 8:08 PM

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I just want Bitfenix to be in stock again

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then I can start recommending them once again

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Who have tried the NZXT PSU's?

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:27 PM

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They have PSUs?

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Yes I just found out

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In my country they are super cheap, I checked amazon there they're overpriced

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:28 PM

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afaik some of them are decent, like the E850

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Because of the lack of cables?

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:28 PM

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but I'm not a psu expert

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:28 PM

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I know the cable quality is really bad

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But I will buy a cablemod kit anyway

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:28 PM

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it's more about the internals, protections, the way the power is regulated, etc

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:29 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/fsp-group-hydro-ptm-series-hpt1200m-1200w/p/1HU-0095-00080?Description=fsp hydro PTM%2B&cm_re=fsp_hydro_PTM%2B-_-9SIABP96U07209-_-Product

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RGB watercooled PSU.....LOL

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:29 PM

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So I should avoid it if I want to go under 800W

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

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it's not really about the wattage either

hushed yoke Dec 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

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sounds safe to me @worldly dust

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:30 PM

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this is the problem, all the marketing stuff doesn't really matter too much

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like yes you should pay attention to wattage but I'd be shocked if your pc is pulling more than 500watts off the 12v

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I really have no idea how much I need

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Yeah pcpartpicker shows but than again I see people go with 300 more than their builds actually need

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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and even the efficiency rating (80+ bronze, gold, platinum, whatever) doesn't really speak to the quality of the psu, which seems to be a pretty common belief

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:32 PM

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There is no perfect PSU

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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what you need to be looking at are what components are used, how it regulates power, what protections it has, etc

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but that's hard to find

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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uh I dont know if you missed it but I posted a watercooled RGB 1200w clearly perfection ....LOL

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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watercooled psu

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no thanks

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lol

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

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water + electricity = friends

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I need ideas

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on cables

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color wise

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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@shadow cosmos I do think an NZXT PSU will be fine though

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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what's your build look like

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I don't think most NZXT psus will fry your pc, for what it's worth

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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it's been updated in buildpics, sec Ill post it

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 PM

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but I know the e series is particularly decent

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I dunno if I wanna go all white

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or all black.

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or a mix of black and white

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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all white imo

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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carbon blk

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steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:36 PM

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the white is the accent

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the cables should be accents

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imo

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~~it would look better with hard tubing~~

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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well duh :p

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eventually

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that is the plan

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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yeah I think the cables should be all white

shadow cosmos Dec 11, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Should I always avoid old units or it again just depends on the actual quality?

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PSU's from like 2014-2017

vital ferry Dec 11, 2019, 8:43 PM

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What can happen if you buy a cheap psu

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Off of ebay

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:43 PM

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🔥

vital ferry Dec 11, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Ok

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I think i might sell that psu

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:43 PM

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you get what you pay for

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never cheap out on PSU.

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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not that all old PSUs will be bad just time tends to age things

vital ferry Dec 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Yeah i have heard...sounds like the consequences are very extreme

flat eagle Dec 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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yeah.

vital ferry Dec 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Can you use it as a firework

worldly dust Dec 11, 2019, 8:45 PM

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I have an antec 600w truepower been running for over 20 years no issues

vital ferry Dec 11, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Use a psu as a heat round

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 8:46 PM

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older PSUs don't have modern protections and can often damage or shorten the lifespan of modern PC components

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 8:49 PM

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also are usually group regulated which modern PCs dont like

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:01 PM

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is this a bad power supply

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RIOTORO ENIGMA G2

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Huh, surprisingly, that's a rebadged Seasonic Power supply

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Seasonic FOCUS Plus gold too

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That actually should be a goo done

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@zenith ice

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:09 PM

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is that decent then?

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for that price too

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:09 PM

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What price? You didn't list one

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If it's Amazon for $80, yeah, that's a good price IMO

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:12 PM

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guess ima go for it

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I would. Seasonic is a highly reputable brand

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Cheers

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so it wont fry my parts

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or blow up aha

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:17 PM

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LOL!. no

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Seriously, Seasonic is prized for their power supplies

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:18 PM

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yeah but like

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that isnt the name on the power supply aha

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just dont understand why everyone isnt buying it

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at such a cheap price

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750w

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Because they didn't take 10 minutes to see who made it

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Many power supplies are rebranded Seasonics. There's really only a couple manufacturers, the rest are rebadged

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Seasonic Focus Gold has apparently had issues with voltage ripples

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there are conflicting rumors over it tho

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As im pretty harsh on PSUs, I'd probably stay away from it

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Yeah but honestly, unless your nitrogen overclocking or something, it's not really a big issue.

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Tom's Hardware tested and gave it a pass

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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-ssr-750fx-focus-plus-750-gold-psu,5206-9.html

Tom's Hardware

Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Gold PSU Review

Seasonic's Prime PSUs are its flagships. However, the PSUs that most users will buy belong to the more affordable FOCUS family. The FOCUS Plus 750 Gold is the second highest-capacity model, and it sports a strong value proposition.

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:23 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/GXS650-80-Plus-Premium-Performance-Compact/dp/B071VFYQBC is this any good?

Amazon.com: Cougar GXS650 80-Plus Gold Premium Performance Compact...

Buy Cougar GXS650 80-Plus Gold Premium Performance Compact Power Supply (PSU) (650 Watt): Internal Power Supplies - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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It looks decent enough to me but some of you guys know a lot more about psus than I do.

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Im researching the manufacturer

scenic lance Dec 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Seasonic is the most well known OEM.

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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@lofty pewter sorry for pinging but I know you're pretty critical of psus, have any input?

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Seems to by adequate

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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That's a Sirfa PSU

rich vine Dec 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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That cougar is using Andyson as OEM. Same as some RaidMax PSUs.... its hit or miss.

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I read they changed to SIrfa

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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might just buy a cheaper case lol

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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For the newer ones

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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cheaper case better psu

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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I did real basic research on it and pretty sure it's close to Corsair CX perf

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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I already have a case, my budget only really allows for 80usd

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It's a bit cheaper than the cx550

scenic lance Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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At the budget end, it's best to look at what's on sale, and then check reiews

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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honestly

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Uh, I can get you a Seasonic for $80

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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do that for everything

zenith ice Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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should i go higher than the recommended psu for my graphics card

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Seasonics aren't all good for every use case.

scenic lance Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Yes, but at higher budget, one has more flexibility

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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The s12ii is bad for example

opal night Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Sigh, Ok

lofty pewter Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Looking for a laptop? Pick a few specs and then sort by lowest. Then look at reviews

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can sometimes squeeze out a better CPU/GPU

steel portal Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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But anyway, I guess that's not likely to fry my PC?