#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 151

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:15 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164174?Item=N82E16820164174&Description=2x16&cm_re=2x16-_-20-164-174-_-Product&quicklink=true is another good kit but its out of stock

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:15 AM

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im not brain dead like most haha

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how about the lpx 2x16 kit?

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 AM

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link?

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233894?Description=lpx&cm_re=lpx-_-20-233-894-_-Product&quicklink=true

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BRUH

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THE SALE

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$115

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originally $185 LIKE WHAT A DEAL

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 AM

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yes

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id pull the trigger

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thats a very good deal

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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well i gotta ask my parents

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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ofc the deal should last a bit

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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my birthday is right around the corner and black friday is too

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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yeah you got a week it says

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i have that same kit but in a 2x8 slower config and no issues so id reccomend

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just make sure to turn XMP on in the bios

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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yeah yeah ik

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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i figured

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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well apparently some mobos make it sit at 2133

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when you first boot

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like ???

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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yea i had to turn on xmp to go past 2444

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i have like 2666 memory lmfao

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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its alright

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whatever floats your boat

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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my motherboard costed more than my cpu i just grabbed whatever was at best buy i was so impatient

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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people often become ungrateful and throw shade which sucks

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micro center is 1 hour away from me

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im hope to get the 9700k and the motherboard bundled

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in store

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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oh yeah microcenter has insane deals

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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its only $200 for the 9700k rn

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:19 AM

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none in florida though :(

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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like HAHA

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welp im on the opposite side of where you are

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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west coast?

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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yes THE coast the LONG state

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the shlong

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:22 AM

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what mobo should you go for if youre getting a 5000 series chip

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:22 AM

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well you want one that you can flash bios on easy

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i would go for b550 as its a good price compared to x570 and support

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:22 AM

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okay thanks

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:22 AM

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just make sure

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it comes with a bios flash option on the rear i/o

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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im pretty sure most b550's do

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yeah they do

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usually

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yes a b550 is good for 5000 chips

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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unless its mega mega budget

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even then

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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nice 309000 ti build

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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not sure

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yea the bd3hm or whatever

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the lowest tier of that one

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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asrock phantom gaming 4

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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the bd3hm pro or whatever is liek 10$ more and i think it has it

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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b550

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idk if it has it but yeah

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thats what i was looking at

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 AM

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bruh 1080 Ti is still a beast, no?

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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this is its rear io

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yes 1080ti is still a beast

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 AM

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mk

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i saw a FTW3 Hybrid on eBay for $400

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thats insane

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:25 AM

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the 1080ti is comparable to a 2080

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:25 AM

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yeah

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and 2070s

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:25 AM

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yea its a pretty solid

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:25 AM

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performs better than the 2070s in some situations lmfao

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just no raytracing

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i dont need or want it tbh

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 AM

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yeah it loses points in terms of features

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 AM

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well

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 AM

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its just a great deal if u can get it a good price used

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 AM

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i just want to play minecraft with my friends lmao

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yeah ik ik

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cant imagine it was at $1300 retail

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thats crazy

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thats my pc budget

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:15 AM

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what does it mean when a motherboard supports 2666 ram?

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 3:16 AM

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it means it supports up to that without XMP on

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:16 AM

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whats XMP?

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 3:17 AM

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XMP is a setting that allows your ram to run past the supported speed on the mobo

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but at the speed of your ram

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:17 AM

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on

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oh

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Extreme Memory Profile, basically an official rated overclock for the memory you get

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:17 AM

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i have the ROG z490

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Z490 supports well above that speed

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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cool

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got any ram recommendations?

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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For intel you're fine with around 3000Mhz ram, faster can be beneficial but probably unnecessary

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:20 AM

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okay in what instance would I want faster then that though just curious?

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Memory intense workloads typically, like video editing. You might see some benefits in games technically but I want to say it basically peaks at around 3000Mhz

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 3:25 AM

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oh okay cool

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thank you

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 3:27 AM

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3200 is the standard tho, and in most cases is cheaper than 3000

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Yeah if you find a 3200 kit for less or the same money then it's only better then

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 3:56 AM

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you can very easily see memory increasing fps by a fair bit beyond 3000MHz for AMD or Intel. It's a matter of what's limiting you. If you're say playing eSports games where you make sure the GPU isnt limiting you, on a mid/high end CPU, then having say 4000MT/s CL16 over 3200MT/s CL16 can give like 10% perf boost on Intel.

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Hi I would like to ask if what is better for a Ryzen system, G.Skill Trident Z Neo or Corsair?

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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trident z

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the neo doesnt matter all that much

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especially for the price difference from the normal stuff

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just corsair generally isnt the greatest

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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for Ryzen 5 3600?

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but I thought the Neo is optimized for Ryzen

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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"Optimized for Ryzen" is purely marketing

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RAM is RAM, if it works it works and that's all that matters phaWesker

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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So in short to buy the Trident Z

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Buy whatever RAM gives the best quality for cheapest

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Trident Z is better than Corsair Dominitor?

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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which is usually neither rn

prisma nymph Nov 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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it does have slightly better performance, the neo, just not enought to verify the price jump i dont think

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Neo is a set of models, not a model. The memory dies in Neo RAM sticks range a fair bit

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thus being a bit better to a lot better

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or maybe the same

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depending on what Corsair has

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if you want to compare RAM sticks, ya gotta be quite specific

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:05 AM

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CL16 3600

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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again, still not that specific. There are still at least two (and probably fair bit more) memory dies that can do that freq with that specific timing. Usually Micron RevE or Samsung Bdie, maybe Hynix DJR

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how much RAM are you getting?

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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What would you recommend for a Ryzen system?

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8x2

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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If US, just get these then
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

blazing oracle Nov 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Is Crucial a reliable ram?

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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yes

bold hedge Nov 17, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Anyone know if this motherboard would be compatible with the new Ryzen 5950x?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Should require a bios flash, but after that it will work

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Doesn't look like it's capable of flashing without a chip though

long geyser Nov 17, 2020, 4:12 AM

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depends on how new it is from factory

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mobos are updated to newest BIOS at factory. So if you got one that was recently manufactured it will have new BIOS.

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I suggest going to local retailer so you can ask for their newest stock of said mobo

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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They do put a sticker on the box that says "Ryzen 5000" compatible in that case, so if you go out to a retail store you can see that easily

bold hedge Nov 17, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Oh ok yeah I'll have to look. I was originally just going to get the ryzen 3950x with this mobo but since I already bought it I was just seeing if it was compatible. If not then honestly that's just fine cause the 3950x is still really good

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Do you guys know the difference between the asus rog crosshair viii hero x570 and the dark hero?

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 4:39 AM

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best b550 that has easy flash bios?

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:40 AM

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how much you willing to spend

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 4:40 AM

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below 200

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cad

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like i dont want the b550 f

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from asus

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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msi b550-a pro, looks good imo

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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well i do i just cant afford that

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okay

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does it have an easy flash bios?

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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or the msi b550m vdh-wifi

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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cuz i need it for 5000 series

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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i would say so

vale yarrow Nov 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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okay thankd

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thanks*

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Do you guys know the difference between the asus rog crosshair viii hero x570 and the dark hero?

main pulsar Nov 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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aside from the fact that they are probably both overkill for what you need?

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price

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will be the only meaningful difference

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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sassyfish what happend to the old pfp

arctic tiger Nov 17, 2020, 5:15 AM

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My 3600X came in today pog

brave path Nov 17, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Pog

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 5:24 AM

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pog

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Owning a first gen Ryzen 7 1700 is amazing, and the x370 chipset is perfect with it, but unfortunately I have to upgrade both to x570 and the new Ryzen 9 5900X for my system now, I practically have to get a brand new computer at this point xD I'm fine with RAM because 32 gigs should be plenty, so the saying goes

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:43 AM

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What are the differences between the dark hero and the regular hero

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Is it going to be ALOT better?

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Oh the new ASUS board?

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Or pretty much the same

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Yes

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I ordered the regular viii hero x570 and idk if I should refund it for the dark

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If its the same price that is

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But if its pretty much the same then nah

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Well does the regular hero support the 5000 series CPUs out of the box?

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Because the Dark hero does

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Its x570, I think it might have a bios update

fickle flax Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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all x570 boards should support the 5000 series out of the box

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Yea

fickle flax Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 AM

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with maybe an update on the way

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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@fickle flax do you know the difference between the new viii dark hero x570 and the regular?

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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all x570 boards should support the 5000 series out of the box

Sadly, not all of them, as I was looking through boards, I did see that some x570 boards need a bios update to support 5000 series chips

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I just ordered the regular but idk if I should refund for the dark

fickle flax Nov 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUSROG/comments/j8fgjz/x570_crosshair_viii_hero_vs_dark_hero/

r/ASUSROG - X570 Crosshair VIII Hero vs Dark Hero?

5 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Hah, I was about to post the exact same link

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:50 AM

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So the only difference probably is just the chipset fan?

fickle flax Nov 17, 2020, 5:50 AM

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power delivery i think

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I have a 5950x

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Should I just keep the regular hero?

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I'm pretty sure it will run the same, maybe the dark will have better oc

fickle flax Nov 17, 2020, 5:51 AM

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yep

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Power delivery is a big difference, by like, 30A, so pretty much, Overclocking will be much smoother

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:52 AM

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What do you think I should do? If its the same price. Refund for dark?

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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There is no price for the dark as far as I know because I don't think that board is out yet

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Idrk how much oc I'm going to be doing

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Or at least I can't see a price on pcpartpicker

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Yea

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Idk i think ima just stick with the regular

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Just a removed chipset fan and better power delivery

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Probably the exact same board besides that

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:55 AM

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What if you use a 5900x on a mobo thats not upgraded

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Wym?

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Pretty pricey though at $360, wow.

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Yep

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Like not upgraded bios mobo

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I'm trying max out my 5950x

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Or do the mobos already come upgraded

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Like not upgraded bios mobo
@dusky pagoda
You won't get the full experience and features of ur chip with and x470

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Oh

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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X370 is already put of the picture

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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So u dont need the boot kit?

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Wym?

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Im talking x570 and b550

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Bios update

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Do u have to?

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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No, most 500 series boards won't need an update for 5000 ryzen

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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What if u put it in without a update

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Idunno, it might not boot?

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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But if they do you will need a 3rd generation ryzen if the board does not have the flash thingy

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Idunno, it might not boot?
@unkempt lion
Probably

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Do you know any boards that come with it updated

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Uhh no

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Pretty sure most hight end asus b550 and x570s

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Hmm

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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One of the MSI boards I'm looking at supports Ryzen 5000 out of the box

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Which one are you looking at?

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Asus rog strix x570-e

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I'm pretty sure that one will support out of the bix

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Box*

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If not I think it has USB bios flashback

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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ah ha

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Thanks

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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No prob

dusky pagoda Nov 17, 2020, 6:02 AM

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But whatll happen if it does need a bios flashback

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:03 AM

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How's the corsair RAM?

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It's overpriced I'm sure

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But how it is on a performance level?

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Imo, Corsair Vengeance gives you the best bang for your buck, and that's out of personal experience

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But don't take my word for it, wait around for other opinions

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Do I want 16GB or 32GB RAM?

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If it helps at some point I plan to edit videos sometime after I finish my build

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But mostly gaming

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I recommend 32 gigs if you are going to do some video editing, because it should help with rendering

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Gotcha do I want to go for higher speed than 3200?

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I'd say ram is my next thing I need. I'm holding out for GPU

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Uhhh....that....I'm actually inexperienced about

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Lol no worries

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I'm kind of interested in RGB ram because I want to have some flashiness to it at least with that

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Also do you really need a fan for the RAM?

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Or like heatsink

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Heatsink. Yes

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I'm look into it

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 6:20 AM

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For ram is cl18 horrible?

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:20 AM

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you dont need a heatsink to run 3200mhz

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@harsh grotto what speed

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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3600

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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thats not the worst

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but it could be better

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the general goal is to aim for 3600mhz cl16

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I just wanna know what if it will affect me a lot

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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it might affect your 1% lows a bit in terms of FPS

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Should I get 3600mhz RAM?

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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what cpu

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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i9-10900k

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:23 AM

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honestly it wouldnt be a bad idea to RAM OC really far

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like 4400mhz levels

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:23 AM

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The motherboard I have is z490

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:23 AM

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you're spending that much on a cpu

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might as well get some really good ram too

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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I actually didn't spend as much as you think on the CPU

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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and if you dont want to overclock it yourself, something like https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/2R8-001C-00003?Description=4400mhz&cm_re=4400mhz-_-9SIA8EFAPC6382-_-Product

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its one of the highest end cpus available

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for consumers and gaming

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Yes it is

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:28 AM

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But what if you multitask? Gaming, video editing, streaming? 3D model rendering? What CPU would be good for that

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:29 AM

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5900x or 5950x

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if you can afford that

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:31 AM

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if you can afford that
More like if it isn't sold out rn

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And I was hoping that would be the answer because I have been looking forward to getting the new 5900X

plain perch Nov 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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is CL14 3800MHz good ^^

blazing grove Nov 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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If you don't want to wait go for the RYZEN 9 3900x

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@unkempt lion

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That was my second choice. I instead went for the i9-10900k since I got it for a really good price

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I spent a lot of time on user benchmark before I decided what I wanted

charred venture Nov 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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3800 cl 14 is really good

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prob the best for ryzen 5000s

unkempt lion Nov 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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3800 cl 14 is really good
Hmm, may have to get a new 32 GB RAM setup for my new build

plain perch Nov 17, 2020, 7:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/yes-napoleon-dynamite-fist-pump-gif-3464462

Tenor

YES.

▶ Play video

pliant siren Nov 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Should I upgrade from a AB350N Gigabyte Motherboard to the TUFF gaming B550M? I dunno if the motherboard is effecting my Ryzen 3900X CPU performance or not.

native zephyr Nov 17, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Hi guys looking for a B550F motherboard should i get the TUF gaming that its rigth now on the daily offers or i should wait for the ROG one?

naive pendant Nov 17, 2020, 11:39 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0815XFSGK?tag=ballsack-20

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in stock for like 3 minutes

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2 shipments

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764291011349315634/778223287552573440/unknown.png

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somebody got one with the link

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pog

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That’s pog

stark laurel Nov 17, 2020, 2:03 PM

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How often has Newegg restocked the 5900x?

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:15 PM

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So I've got a i7 6700, and want to upgrade. Do I want a Ryzen 9 3900 or an i9 10850?

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Def a 3900

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If you can get the same price

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Any reason? Also, anything else in that pricepoint? To clarify, its almost all gaming related

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Oh gaming

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Well that’s a different story

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My b

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Uhhh how much money do these cost you where you live?

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In whatever currency you have

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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USD, both roughly 430

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 PM

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When do you plan to build

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Nowish

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But I'll probably wait until the parts arrive

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Oh alright well in that case

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One second lemme check something

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What resolution are you gaming at

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And what’s your gpu of choice

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I'm running a gtx 1080 (older, but still as good as the 2060s I think)

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I'd try and get a 5600x

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Or 5800x if you stretch the budget

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Yeah i was going to say that until he said he was building now

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I’d reccomend the 10850k though it doesn’t have pcie 4.0 support

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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You still can try

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:p

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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It pains me to do that but it’s the better performance in gaming

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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5600x has better performance in gaming thoo

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I nowwww

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I'd still at least take some time to try

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I mean, I can wait a bit if the price is reasonably similar and its a better processor

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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It’s much better

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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So Ryzen 9 5600x?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Mando got 5800x just earlier

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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The 5600x is faster at 300*

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$

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5800x isn’t much better for gaming

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But it’s extra cores is good for productivity

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I'm saying there is stock

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Because mando got it

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Yeah yeah

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I was just explaining to the other guy

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I’m waiting for the cheaper 3000 series cards in hopes around that time cpus will be more available so I can do a double upgrade

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Or I might just get a new gpu we will see

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No matter how much I love my 5700xt he’s a weirdo

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I get green screen crashes and blue screens bc it overheats even with 6 case fans of airflow

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Newegg is out of everything in the 5000 line it seems

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Yeah

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They restock randomly it seems

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Well, not randomly, but variably

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So it’s up to you

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If you can’t get within the next few days or so I would pull the trigger

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Are you gaming at over 1080p?

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I will be building for that, next stop is a new monitor (mine is fine to 2k)

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Then eventually a new gen video card

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AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8 GHz is in stock, is the 5600 better? Its cheaper, but a higher model number. I miss the days when higher models meant higher performance...

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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5600x is much better

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Heh, 5600x is newer generation

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Better single core perf

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:31 PM

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It has much faster gaming performance at a lower price

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Ahhh, got it

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:31 PM

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This 5000 series was AMDS response to intels gaming performance dominance

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AMD is now king

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For productivity and for gaming

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Intel responded by saying their next cpus will be the same 14nm archetictur but with... LESS CORES

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Dumb 🤦‍♂️

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Ha, nice. Ok, I'll hold out for the ryzen, thanks!

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I'm going with the MSI Carbon Gaming Wifi board, MSI gungnir 110r case and watercooler, and 16gb of 3600mhz ddr4. Anything I'm messing up?

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750w power, 256ssd boot, 6tb 7200 HDD

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:34 PM

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So the water cooler and the case is personal preference not going to critique h Th at

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What is the msi chipset?

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B450, b550 or x570

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:35 PM

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All of the above (there is one of each, I'm assuming the Ryzen is x570)

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:36 PM

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hm?

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the 5600x can go on b550 or x570

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There's a MSI B550 gaming carbon wifi, and a X570 gaming carbon wifi

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Theres an MPG B550, B450 Gaming Pro, X370 Gaming Pro, and MPG x570 Gaming Pro (all Carbon Wifi)

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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mhm

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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I don’t know if the b550 version has a bios flashback

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Not flashback

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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it does afaik

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I’m looking at the rear I/o and it’s not labeled

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But I do the red USB port which usually signifies it

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It has one according to reddit

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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dunno what you're looking at lmao @deft helm

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deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I’m on mobile so i just went to their site

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My mobo has it labeled and it’s an MSI one so I figured it would

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But then

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I realize

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I am blind

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It is labeled in the fine print

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And this is why I am dumb

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Is there a reason to go with the B550 vs x570?

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Also (and thanks again for all the information!) if i don't want to wait for a 5600x drop, would a Ryzen 7 3800x or Ryzen 9 3900x be better for gaming (understanding there is a higher price).

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 3:21 PM

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5600x is much better for gaming, all 3rd gen chips are about the same for gaming perf

heady kestrel Nov 17, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Ah, ok, so focus on that first digit for generation

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@hollow thorn

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Do you know the main differences between the asus rog crosshair viii hero and the the dark hero x570? What I know of is just the dark doesn't have the chipset fan and the power delivery is a little bit better. Other than that are they pretty much the same board?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I haven't been keeping up with em

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Ohh

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As far as I can see their the same board tbh

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I just ordered a regular viii hero x570 and was wondering if I should refund it for the dark

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That is if they are the same price

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 3:40 PM

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o wait

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TEXAS INSTRUMENTS MAKES MOSFETS WHAT

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harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 3:43 PM

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dark mode lol

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Yea so just power delivery huh

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Annd no chipset fan

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 3:45 PM

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90a should be a good bit better than 60a stages

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Is it worth refunding my regular hero? For a 5950x

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That 30a stages might give it better performance and oc

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The extra 30a stages*

stoic wolf Nov 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@raw abyss There is apparently a feature that dynamically applies all core OC and single core boost depending on current draws. Someone mentioned derbauer talking about it in a video. You might go look for that on his channel.

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Oh ok, thanks

stoic wolf Nov 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Np

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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So you think it would be worth refunding my regular hero x570?

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For a 5950x, whenever it releases

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If its the same price, if it's alot more expensive nah

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Can someone explain me cas latency?

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:07 PM

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how many times ram has to complete a cycle to deliver or access the information it was told to retrieve by the cpu iirc

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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So will cl18 reduce performance by a lot?

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Compared to cl16

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3600 speed

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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when comparing speeds, it's normally the one with lower latency that has more performance

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this article explains it well: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cas-latency-ram-cl-timings-glossary-definition,6011.html

Tom's Hardware

What Is CAS Latency in RAM? CL Timings Explained

What is the meaning of a RAM’s CAS latency or CL timing? Latency and RAM performance explained.

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Thx

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That helped

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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you're welcome

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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guys, both 500 series amd boards will support the direct mem access feature right?

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Wym?

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For the cpu and gpu?

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yes

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yes

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yes I think so

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Both X570 and B550 boards will support smart access memory as long as you have an rx 6000 series gpu and ryzen 5000 series cpu

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:02 PM

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If u use a ryzen cpu with the new 6000 series gpus from amd you get the smart mem access and the gpu will most likely give you up to like 13% more Performance

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Look better than Nvidia

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:02 PM

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13% is at a maxium

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Though all rx 6000 gpus will have rage mode which is an easy 1-2% performance gain

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Still a good percentage

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Its somrthing

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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True true

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Props to amd they are actually competing with Nvidia

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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im just asking cause im looking into a b550 board if itll support it instead of x570

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Still gotta wait for benchmarks from third party users but yea

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Yea it will

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I think any 500 series board will

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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ok thanks guys

stoic wolf Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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They are. Keep in mind though NV is about to enable the same feature in the 30 series cards. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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No problem

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I think ima go with a 6800xt instead of a 3080

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:05 PM

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That is true

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 5:05 PM

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also im looking at the b550 aorus master, if someone has a different suggestion im all ears lol

fierce jasper Nov 17, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Nvida does have a come back

stoic wolf Nov 17, 2020, 5:06 PM

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But does NV have an answer for... RAGE MODE?! 😂

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Lol

loud escarp Nov 17, 2020, 5:06 PM

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rage mode seems like a more complicated version of the old turbo button on gpus

desert estuary Nov 17, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Any leads on a 5950x at retail? Thanks 🙏

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:30 PM

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anyone has this board? Might use it for a 5600x in a h210i
https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mpg-b550i-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144323?Item=9SIA9H5C2S3922

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also, the 5600x is in stock on newegg canada but from another seller that marks up the price

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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it should work fine with a 5600x

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:33 PM

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now i just need to find a decently priced 5600x cuz im not paying 520$ for that

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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wtf lmao

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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520 cad

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Seems overpriced

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The Mobo

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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newegg has it for 419$

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the mobo is 265 cad

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I feel like you can get b550 itx boards for ~200cad

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I need to check after I eat lunch

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3rd party seller too btw

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I'm looking for one that has a usb c header for the front io on the h210i

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Will you use usb c front io tho

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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the third party in this case has it lower than newegg

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and yes ill use it i have a pixel 3 which has a usb c to usb c cable

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:37 PM

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~~pixel gang~~ and you can't use rear io?

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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well if I have the option of not having to climb on my desk (its a 2 feet long desk) and reach blindly in the back of my case i'll take that option. Also I only have one cable now

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Hm I was thinking off the b550m-itx but it doesn't have internal usb 3.1

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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im pissed that there are only 2 itx boards that have usb c header

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Eh

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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2 or 3

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in the b550

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theres a gigabyte and an asus one too i think

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Most people can just use rear io, and itx is like 5 boards total anyways

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:42 PM

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the msi is the cheapest of the 3

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Itx is a small market

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:42 PM

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why are there so few options, I thought itx had a bigger market and hype than Matx

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Hm? Not really afaik

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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i currently run an matx build inside a enthoo evolv matx (gorgeous case and terrible airflow)

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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ITX is also harder to make either way, mATX they just cut off the extra bits of an ATX board, itx they have to rearrange everything

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Welp, it's sad, there's only a few itx boards.

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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well i mean there are less "high end" boards in matx

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Itx is also more of a 'luxury' segment

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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yeah i kinda discovered that after starting to look at parts

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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It's sad, but also makes a bit of sense

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Welp, that's that, no other good choices

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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yeah thanks for the help tho!

marble hare Nov 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@deft helm

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found it on amazon

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Heh, sadly couldn't help.

marble hare Nov 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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oh i didnt know you cant put links in here my bad

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 5:53 PM

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What’s up

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Am I dum

marble hare Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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nah i posted a link to the ram you recommended

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Ohhh

marble hare Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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but it got deleted

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i didnt know non newegg links arent allowed

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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weird

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?&quicklink=true I’m deciding between this kit

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And this one

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https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331356#

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I just don’t know if it’s worth the large difference in price

candid vale Nov 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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is the 3100 better than the 2600

deft helm Nov 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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No

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Welllll

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Literally marginally, but you’re getting more cores so 2600 I’d prefer

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That’s just from a glance I’d look at benchmarks of them from reputable reviewers

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My cpu is a 3600 w 2666 mhz Corsair ram and a 5700xt and I have trouble previewing 1080p 60fps video in openshot

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Is this normal?

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 6:15 PM

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@candid vale they are actually very similar in perf, but if you need more cores get the 2600

candid vale Nov 17, 2020, 6:15 PM

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ok

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 6:19 PM

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is crucial ballistix good?

alpine aurora Nov 17, 2020, 6:26 PM

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why ram speed low

harsh grotto Nov 17, 2020, 6:27 PM

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?

dusky dock Nov 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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wait

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does aorus motherboards support 3600 ram??

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bc mines doesnt

fallen lynx Nov 17, 2020, 7:26 PM

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depends on the chipset probably

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 7:50 PM

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What's the specific motherboard in question?

brave path Nov 17, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Would it be a good upgrade from a 2600x too 3700x

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 8:39 PM

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i'd rather go from a 2600x to a 5600x

brave path Nov 17, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Would I have to buy new ram and motherboard

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@eager shore

eager shore Nov 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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what do you have rn

brave path Nov 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Corsair vengeance 3200mhz 16gb with a tomhank max b450

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And the 3700x is 51£ off and it might go lower

ionic skiff Nov 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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is 10th gen intel worth it or should i wait for 11th

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 9:26 PM

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What do you have now?

ionic skiff Nov 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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a laptop lmao

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wanna start building a pc

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no rush, but if theres most likely not gonna be that big of a difference then no point waitin

violet zealot Nov 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Laptops are power limited compared to what desktop pcs can do, so there certainly would be a difference

gloomy spear Nov 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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hay does anyone know what the difference between the Ryzen 7 3700x and the ryzen 7 3800x i here the 3700 is more bang for your buck

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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3800x is basically a 3700x

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With a tiny bit higher bin

gloomy spear Nov 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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wdym by bin

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/glossary-binning-definition,5892.html

Tom's Hardware

What Is Binning? A Basic Definition

What is the meaning of binning? CPU, GPU and RAM binning explained.

gloomy spear Nov 17, 2020, 9:46 PM

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thx

vague siren Nov 17, 2020, 10:34 PM

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any thoughts on the msi carbon b550 mobo?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Expensive

vague siren Nov 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

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what would be a good replacement

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Need wifi or no

vague siren Nov 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

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with wifi

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hm

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Any of you recommend refunding my asus rog crosshair viii hero x570 for the dark?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:54 PM

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If it's easy (hasn't shipped, can cancel order), it's a good idea.

If it's troublesome (Has shipped, box arrived, shipping back takes time and shipping costs), nah, not really worth for pretty small gains.

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Aren't there only two differences?

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No chipset fan

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:55 PM

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mhm

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:55 PM

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30a extra power delivery?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:55 PM

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That's why I'm not like "hell yea return that crap and get the new thing"

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If it's troublesome at all, not worth

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:56 PM

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How much better performance would I get with a 5950x with 30a extra?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:56 PM

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none stock

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it's for OCing

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:56 PM

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How much extra with ocing?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:56 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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hard to quantify

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more power delivery, less vrm heat

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Probd not much

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Probs not much better oc

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And no chipset fan

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I could care less bout that

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 10:58 PM

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mhm, not really worth swapping then

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Maybe for oc

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But probably not like .1 ghz more

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Do you think its going to be more expensive?

vivid pewter Nov 17, 2020, 10:59 PM

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What mobo would you reccomend for 5800x?

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mobo has to have wifi

raw abyss Nov 17, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Asus tuf x570 or strix x570

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Strix is better for for oc i think and has more features but more expensive

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@vivid pewter

autumn fossil Nov 17, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Should I buy a 3600xt to go with my 3070?

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I wonder why people dont buy the 3600xt as much as the 3600 or the 3600x, if its slightly better and even cheaper than the 3600x

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 11:32 PM

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right now it is

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usually it isn't

autumn fossil Nov 17, 2020, 11:34 PM

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ik, just asking

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but would you recommend it?

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 11:34 PM

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When it is cheaper than 3600 and 3600x ya

autumn fossil Nov 17, 2020, 11:34 PM

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it just cheaper than the 3600x rn

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I prefer a 3600 at 200$ than 3600xt at 233$

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Good bit of cash

autumn fossil Nov 17, 2020, 11:35 PM

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my friend told me the 3600xt because of the clock speed

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but I guess i can go with the 3600

sour coyote Nov 17, 2020, 11:40 PM

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the 3600xt is just a 3600 overclocked with a better stock cooler

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tbh

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just overclock the 3600 yourself and get a good cooler and you'll get sane performance

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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20$ gammaxx 400 wreaks any stock cooler

autumn fossil Nov 17, 2020, 11:46 PM

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idk how to overclock :/

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ill look it up

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alright and thanks yall

safe geode Nov 17, 2020, 11:57 PM

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would you guy say its difficutl to flash a motherboard with a flashback button like what are points of failure that i could have

hollow thorn Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Hm?

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Flashback button only point of failure is your power going out @safe geode

safe geode Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 PM

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alright thanks

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:00 AM

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As long as you have a usb drive, with the correct file (renamed if needed), plug in usb, press button, wait like 3 min, done.

safe geode Nov 18, 2020, 12:00 AM

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thanks was just a little concerned from a reddit post who was there for like half an hour

lone sigil Nov 18, 2020, 12:05 AM

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hello, I'm looking for some help on a PC build. I'm pretty new to this again after 12 years or so. Is this the correct place to ask a MB and RAM question?

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Sure, go ahead

lone sigil Nov 18, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Cool, I purchased this MB https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157966?Item=N82E16813157966&utm_medium=TraEmail&utm_source=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US&cm_mmc=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US-_-N82E16813157966 and G.SKILL DDR4-3600 RAM. It arrived today. I noticed that that speed RAM is not listed on the QVL on ASRock's website. I'm worried that I will have problems running it at 3600MHz and enabling XMP (still getting up to speed on it all). I haven't opened or installed anything yet. I'm wondering if I should return it and purchase a supported 3200 speed RAM instead. I will be installing a Ryzen 3 3100 on the first system and Ryzen 5 3600 on the second.

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Ran not being on the QVL doesn't mean it won't be able to run at XMP.

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All it means is that they never tested that specific kit.

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@lone sigil I'd keep the ram and at least try it.

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My current ram isn't on the QVL of my B450 board, but it still runs at xmp at 3600c16 just fine.

lone sigil Nov 18, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@hollow thorn thanks for the info! I'll try it out. Hopefully it will work. I just read the Newegg return policy. I don't want to have to pay for return shipping fees.

brave path Nov 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Should I upgrade from 2600x too 3600

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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maybe 5600x is worth waiting for, not a great upgrade from 2600x to 3600 rn

brave path Nov 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Ok peepoSadSip

torn scaffold Nov 18, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Whats a good x570 mb for the new ryzen cpus?

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:45 AM

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B550 boards are still good

torn scaffold Nov 18, 2020, 12:45 AM

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what would you suggest need a wifi with it

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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speaking of b550s when i get one would i have to do a bios update when i get mine

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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95% chance

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no

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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aight thx

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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but for the 5% chance, it's good to get a board with bios flashback so you can easily flash it with a usb drive

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but AMD also offers boot kits that send you a CPU to flash your bios

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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oh rly?

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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or go to like microcenter or any other computer store for them to flash it for you

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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fricking florida doesnt have a microcenter for some reason

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i want one ngl

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:48 AM

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@gloomy spear

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https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-105

Unable to Boot New Desktop System Configured with AMD Ryzen™ 5000 S...

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:49 AM

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oh thanks man

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oh last question

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so my internet is winstream (its bad basically) but my room is across of where the router is and everything in here works fine internet speed wise except my pc, would my mobo be one of the problems ive tried even an extender but it was the same

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:51 AM

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@torn scaffold smth like this
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax/p/N82E16813145243

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What you could try is getting a new wifi adapter

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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well i dont think i have one

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there isnt one on my mobo

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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uh

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dat's the issue then lmao

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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lmao

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wait rly

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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does your mobo have built in wifi

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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yes

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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uh

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...

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that's what I was asking for

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ehm

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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wait

torn scaffold Nov 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@hollow thorn thnx

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:54 AM

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dude my mental skills are like a paraplegic toddler on a sugar high i am gonna be tar tar sometimes ngl

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:54 AM

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you can try a new one, this is on the expensive side, but it's an option. Can go cheaper if want.
https://www.newegg.com/tp-link-archer-t6e-pci-express/p/N82E16833704274

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@torn scaffold the reviews on that are just consumers being dumb btw, no video output just means you screwed up somewhere in your build

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:56 AM

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aight thx but i was just asking that question because im upgrading my mobo anyways because im switching platforms to AMD and i wanted to know if i needed to just buy a new router with ethernet and put it in my room lmao

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 12:56 AM

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lel, it's worth trying

gloomy spear Nov 18, 2020, 12:57 AM

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hopefully

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Any news on 5000 cpus and stock?

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:18 AM

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they dropped on amazon hours ago and immediately sold out

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Hey guys need some advice

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Looking to get the new 6800xt and the ryzen 5 5600x i need some help picking the rest out. I have a 2k budget

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:33 AM

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for doing what?

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gaming, editing?

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@bright fog

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Gaming and editing

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:35 AM

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planning on doing a bit of overclocking?

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@hollow thorn if I ordered my motherboard on nov 1st how likely is it to be able to boot with ryzen 5000

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because the bios flashback instructions say to do it with no cpu installed

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but I don't have spare themal paste

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should I do a bios flash at the beginning just to be safe

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Not likely

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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if you have a bios flash button you should be good for flashing without a cpu

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:38 AM

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yeah I will do that then

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I don't want to install the cpu then find out it doesn't boot and not be able to remove the cooler bc no new thermal paste

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:38 AM

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ok but if youe mobo has a flash bios button you just need to download it on a usb key

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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yea ik

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im supposed to do it with no cpu installed

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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@bright fog budget, storage and ram

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no i dont think it matters

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not too sure tho

silver pewter Nov 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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ANy of you have thoughts on this to keep my OS on https://www.microcenter.com/product/600419/inland-premium-256gb-ssd-3d-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive

Micro Center

Inland Premium 256GB SSD 3D NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 Internal...

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late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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I want to follow directions as closely as possible because bricking my motherboard would really suck

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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the only way you could brick it is if the power fails

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but then on high end mobos there is a restore bios button

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:41 AM

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hopefully I don't need to find out whether I can restore a broken bios flash

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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what mobo do you have

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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GIGABYTE B550I AORUS PRO AX

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the itx one

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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My budget is 2k prefer a hybrid of storage so 1 tb ssd and hdd. And memory 32gb

wind karma Nov 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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shouldn't ryzen 5000 just work out of the box in a B550?

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I though b450 was the one that needed bios updates

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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depends when the board was manufactured i think

wind karma Nov 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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ah

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:44 AM

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not sure tho

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:44 AM

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so I guess if it was manufactured after sep 18 it will work

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I will just flash it though because there is no way I have the bios that was released a day before it was shipped and that is ideal for ryzen 5000

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:45 AM

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aight good luck

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and your board doesnt have a restore bios button

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well @bright fog try pcpartpicker and send the link here

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for accurate pricing check your prefferred retailer tho

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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@bright fog get a x570

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Thought about a GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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this is my own build but there is a heavy amount of extra cooling for overclocking https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WFWt8

System Builder

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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there is a aorus elite x570

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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or the MSI MPG x570

vague siren Nov 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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the gygabyte aorus seems like a good board but there is no onboard wifi if this is a thing you want

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the mpg does

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Yeah that was the downside I saw to that

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:55 AM

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if your budget is 2k for a 5600x and 6800xt, it leaves you with tons of room for mobo, ram, psu, storage, and display

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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was the 3000 ram really that much cheaper than 3200

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I got 2x32gb 3200 cl16 for $170

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shit's dirt cheap

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oh wait I'm not supposed to say that word

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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cause you bought 32gb sticks, ofc its expensive

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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yeah thats where i getting confused. There so many parts i just dont know what to choose

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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even with 32gb sticks my cost per gigabyte was lower than the linked list

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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if youre editing, get at least 32gb of ram

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yeah was told to get 32gb

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Is there anyone who knows and could tell me how I know when a bios update is finished when doing it using a flashback button?

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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How do you know what type of psu you need to gey

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get*

neat estuary Nov 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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when it stops flasjing i think

bright fog Nov 18, 2020, 2:34 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQc6Dc

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This is my build i cant add the 6800xt till it comes out

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Hopefully i can get my hands on one

waxen lintel Nov 18, 2020, 3:11 AM

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does threadripper 3960x benefit from 3600 ram?

wheat merlin Nov 18, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Got me a new cpu

📎 20201117_211258.jpg

main pulsar Nov 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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oof

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did you get it for like 50?

sharp cove Nov 18, 2020, 3:58 AM

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I don't understand why corsair only sells vengeance rgb in 4x32gb in black and not white.

wispy flint Nov 18, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Is the ryzen 5900x overkill for streaming, video editing and gaming?

vital dagger Nov 18, 2020, 5:53 AM

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No

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It's perfect

wispy flint Nov 18, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Is the aorus x570 master basically the same as the elite version?

blazing oracle Nov 18, 2020, 7:44 AM

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question are you gonna buy a motherboard b550 just for upgradability?

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or is it okay to buy the B450?

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I have a Ryzen 5 3600

glossy vigil Nov 18, 2020, 7:47 AM

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b450 is good i would think for now

blazing oracle Nov 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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b450 is good i would think for now
@glossy vigil what's your build?

glossy vigil Nov 18, 2020, 7:59 AM

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I used to have a b450 mobo, but took the plunge for xmas last year, and went to the 9700k.

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But ive built a couple pcs for friends and usually go b450 for their needs, with a 3600 etc.

sour marten Nov 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Reporting in. Successfully upgraded mobo, PSU, and added an SSD, without a single hitch. Thank you, @long acorn and @gritty meadow for all your help and advice. I ended up going with an Asus TUF X570-Plus since it came with wifi and bluetooth integrated. Only hitch is that my RAM's RGB lost it's mind, but that's a very minor gripe. Thanks again, peeps.

blissful thunder Nov 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

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any chance when the AMD truck comes in, it will have more CPUs on it?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 11:34 AM

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there san AMD truck ?

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:: pulls out the black honda with green lights ::

cloud harness Nov 18, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I have a 3900x on a msi mobo, no ram or motherboard issues, and the ez debug cpu led stays on and the computer doesn't boot. Does anyone have similar issues?

toxic skiff Nov 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20201118-073425_Newegg.png

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Seems like a good deal

stiff thunder Nov 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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I've seen the 3600 kit for a similar price.

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Might have been a 2x8 kit though

toxic skiff Nov 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Yea. Thats a 2x16 kit

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3200 is still a decent speed

stiff thunder Nov 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GVKC https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-232-907-_-11182020

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I've been goofing around with my memory. I've got a 5600x and there's a difference but it's small between 3200 3600 and 3800

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It does help to have a higher infinity fabric clock though

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Couldn't seem to get 4000 stable I ran an an infinity fabric of 4000 fine with the ram at 3600 as a sanity check

scenic quail Nov 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Do you guys think amd will release a 5600 non x variant before the winter break? I want to upgrade out of my 3600 but dont want to overspend on a 5600x

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Hey guys

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I plan to get an i5-10400F

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It’s a decent CPU yea? I’m getting it new

fickle flax Nov 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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yea its good

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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5600 will probably be released next quarter unfortunately

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Thank you mate

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:26 PM

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what's a CPU inside cabinet picture? RMA is asking for one

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:29 PM

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does cat5e work with a mobo that only has a 2.5Gbps port?

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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2.5Gbs is the maximum speed that port can receive it will be bottlenecked by the 1Gbs of the cat5e but realistically your internet is limited by your ISP (internet service provider) at whatever data rate you are paying for

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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so it will work but at 1Gbs?

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:33 PM

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are you buying that much speed from your ISP?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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im not sure all i know is that im paying for the fastest that my isp has

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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look it up

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are you paying for fiber?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:35 PM

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1000 Mbits/s

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 PM

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that should be perfect for cat5e

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 PM

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yeah so it will work with 2.5gbps mobo port right

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at 1000 mbits/s

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 PM

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yes

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:37 PM

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alright thanks because i was looking for motherboards and asus b550 all have 2.5gbps and i thought it wouldnt be compatible

normal jewel Nov 18, 2020, 2:42 PM

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all ethernet ports and cables are cross compatible but will be bottlenecked by the slowest component

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in this case it's the speed of the internet you're paying for and the cable

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 2:44 PM

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thanks glad i learned something new today

spice dagger Nov 18, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Are there any motherboards I can buy that already come with the BIOS update needed for the zen 3 cpus?

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Possibly, that's only easy to tell if you go to a retail store in person though

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Basically once they're out the factory all new shipments come with the new Bios, but old stock might be possible to come by if you were to buy online

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Though in that case you can just buy a motherboard that's capable of flashing the Bios without a CPU

spice dagger Nov 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Ok, thanks

harsh grotto Nov 18, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Is the asus rog attic b550-f gaming good?

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It’s on sale in Newegg for $180 usd

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I’m pairing with 5600x

gritty ocean Nov 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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attic?

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Now that Ryzen 5000 has been out for a while, do you think a 750W power supply is good enough for a 5900x and a 3080 or maybe 3080TI?

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yes people have shown 750 watt psu works with 10900k and 3080

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the caveat is it needs to be a good quality one

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because the 3080 is known to have current spikes that trip OCP of lower quality power supplies

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I already have the Seasonic Focus Gold 750

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 4:57 PM

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just realized that is sfx which might not be what u want

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yeah that should work well

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quality psu

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Ok, I hope it doesn't get too loud but I can always get a better one if I need it

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And I hope the 3080TI is not crazy

late pine Nov 18, 2020, 4:58 PM

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worst comes to worst the computer will shut down under really heavy load

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yeah, if it starts shutting down on me, I'll get a 850W probably

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Well

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Do also remember overload

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 5:06 PM

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yeah, that's why I was asking earlier if I could ask some people if they wanted to buy something. I've never even turned the PSU on, just used some zip ties from the box. Could probably get a decent resell on it.

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@stark laurel here's the thing

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I'd say with a 99% certainty it's gonna work well

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With even overhead

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750w for 5950x+3090

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 5:08 PM

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you think a 750 would work with a 5950 and 3090?

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 5:08 PM

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The power draw stays pretty close to TDP for the CPUs as according to GN testing

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And without heavy oc, 3090 spikes don't go that high

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Maybe 400w

main pulsar Nov 18, 2020, 5:08 PM

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you think a 750 would work with a 5950 and 3090?
@stark laurel that should be fine

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 5:09 PM

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That'll give you even a bit of headroom

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Ok then if that's the case I'd be surprised if a 3080 or 3080Ti goes above 500-600 watts

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Look man

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Pcie 8 pin is rated for ~150w

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2x8 pin is usually what GPUs have

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And manufacturers don't like pulling more that the standard tells it

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~400w max is what I'd expect stock on any 2x8 card

main pulsar Nov 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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also manufacturers would be foolish to make a 600w card. it would have to be liquid cooled only

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or just be like 6 slots worth of heatsink

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Ok thanks, I should be fine with 750 watts then.

main pulsar Nov 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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absolutely

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Highest power draw seems to come at 8 cores

late peak Nov 18, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Need some assistance on getting a RAM upgrade. I have a Dell Latitude 3500 i3 Core 8th gen. this model comes with 4gb but i atleast wanted 8gb just to play some low quality games. I tried buying a PNY 8 gb stick for it from bestbuy but im guessing it wasnt compatible. wouldnt boot back up once i installed it, i tried resetting cmos and all, so i returned it. wanted to see if anyone could point out a good stick i could use

latent mist Nov 18, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Just take the 4gb of ram you alredy have and look the specification, voltage, frecuency all that staff, and buy another one that says the same shit

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xd

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I'll go take a look for you.

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@late peak the Dell Latitude 3500 with i3-8145U correct?

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and how much do you want to spend for ram? I can find you 2x8gb for 16gb total

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(Something like this should work.)
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232154

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According to dell, it takes 2400mhz ddr4 sodimm

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lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:50 PM

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msi meg x570 unify have good vrms?

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Yeah it does

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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and if i buy a b550 mobo will i have to update bios because i dont wanna do that

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specifically Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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It depends if it's a new shipment or old stock

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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hmm

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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New shipments they flash the bios to the latest one, old stock you'll have to flash it

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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what do i have to do to flash it

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Most new motherboards let you do that without a CPU

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i would need a old cpu

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:53 PM

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You just need a USB flash drive

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For example on the Unify you mentioned

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It has a flash bios button on the rear, all you would need to do is power the board; plug a flash drive with the bios files in it and then you press that button and that does it

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Maybe you hold it? I dunno read the manual phaWesker

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:54 PM

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is there anyway to know for sure that i can get a new one thats already flashed i could care less to flash it

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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from what i've read, you hold it for a few seconds until the led turns on, the one that's on the motherboard

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i don't know what label it has, since all mobo's are different or where it is

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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There is, just go to a retail store in person. ask for the motherboards that shipped the most recently

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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yeah

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or refer to your manual

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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i would need a old cpu
@lean kestrel no CPU needed

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Typically they also slap a sticker on the box with that info too

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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what store tho i legit only have best buy and they prolly dont have it

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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don't worry about it

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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You can check if they have it

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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don't stress about it either

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if you know that there is a way, then why stress about it

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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im not stressing lmfao

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yeah just get a board that supports a Flash Bios button feature

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Cause you can do it without the CPU then

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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i can flash it i just dont care to

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so the unify

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:58 PM

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The B550 Tomahawk as well as X570 Tomahawk also have that same feature

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 6:58 PM

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if you don't care to flash it you can just buy a cheap amd APU to update it

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 6:58 PM

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id rather flash it than do that lol

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Drop in that 3000G phaWesker

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I'm not even sure if X570 supports that

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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lol

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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AMD did offer upgrade kits, I don't think they do so anymore; but it was basically just a single core cpu that will let you boot into Bios

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I think that was for when Zen 2 launched

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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b550m mortar or tamohawk

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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for what

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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tamohawk is better i think

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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They're the same quality, the only difference is Mortar is MicroATX

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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yeah but what cpu are you gonna slap on it

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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vrms

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Yeah they're fine

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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can one of you guys help the guy in build chat

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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5800x

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Same VRM between the two

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 7:01 PM

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he speaking intel speak

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i no speak overprice

lean kestrel Nov 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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ok

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thx

eager shore Nov 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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intel

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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intel speak?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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no he just wants help with NVMe PCIe adapter

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idk if the one i linked works with his cpu and mobo

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:03 PM

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PCIe is forwards and backwards compatible

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So if it plugs into PCIe, it literally doesn't matter what gen the component is or what the board supports. It will work, it will simply be limited by bandwidth

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Though as far as M.2 support I don't know when Intel included that

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That might have been with 4th gen?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 7:04 PM

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It usually depends on the board

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he wanted to add 4 more NVMe SSDs on top of the 3 that populate the entire board

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:05 PM

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What chipset is he on?

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That sounds like Extreme

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 7:05 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wWdKf9

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:06 PM

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The CPU gives 16 lanes, I don't know how much the chipset gives

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I guess it must be at least 12 lanes, cause 16 lanes is only enough for a graphics card

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An NVME drive uses 4 lanes

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So I would say there's probably no way to expand it or gain anything from it, buy bigger drives phaWesker

finite tiger Nov 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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here you go @violet zealot X570 PCH actually includes sixteen PCIe lanes, in addition to the 24 PCIe lanes on the CPU, with a total of 4 (four) 4-lane physical interfaces (4x PCIe 4.0 x4 PHY), fully configurable in PCIe x16, x8, x4, x2, x1, and SATA modes

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Oh we were talking about PCIE lanes of Z390 actually

finite tiger Nov 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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ah

violet zealot Nov 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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That's good to know though phaSheva

finite tiger Nov 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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it's still the same on z390

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z390 chipset gives 24 lanes also 😉

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crazy enough. I managed to buy the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk yesterday before it sold out yet again for MSRP($220)

desert estuary Nov 18, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Anyone want to sell me or have any leads on a 5950x ???

white mortar Nov 18, 2020, 7:47 PM

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hi everyone i have a asus tek TUFZ370-Pro Gaming motherboard and i dont know which memory can fit on it. i want to upgrade it whit a 16 gb pack which model i should look ?

tacit hemlock Nov 18, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Your motherboard support ddr4 ram up to 4266mhz

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What kit do you have currently?

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 8:07 PM

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B&h cpu has shipped

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 8:07 PM

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:)

jolly galleon Nov 18, 2020, 8:10 PM

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B&h cpu has shipped
@vast granite which one?

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 8:11 PM

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5600x

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I already got one and I'm selling this one to my friend

jolly galleon Nov 18, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Nice, I've still got the 5900x on backorder :/

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I just got the email that it's shipped

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Which is nice that it won't take til may lol

jolly galleon Nov 18, 2020, 8:12 PM

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true that

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Now I just need a gpu

jolly galleon Nov 18, 2020, 8:13 PM

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same here

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tried getting one at the amd launch but damn, it was literally less than seconds before it went out of stock but ah well c:
time to wait more patiently

vast granite Nov 18, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Yee

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I was plugging in my USB 3.0 connector into a motherboard today. Is it ok for the motherboard to have a small amount of flex?

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 10:42 PM

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yes

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its most likely just missing a stand at that side/corner of the board

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but that does not matter in the grand scheme of things

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:44 PM

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It has all the standoffs in but it was flexing and I got worried. I can't test if it is broken because I'm waiting on getting a 5900x and 3080, maybe 3080TI, so I can't test if it is broken.

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 10:45 PM

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can you grab a picture of the board please?

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just straight from the side

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:45 PM

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It's already installed in the case

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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aye aye

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I put on my CPU cooler brackets and put it in, plugged everything in, so all I have to do is plug in my CPU, and GPU

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and cooler

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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straight from the side of the case

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I can try to get a picture

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I can't get a picture of it, I can take the motherboard out. I powered it on to make sure the front panel connecters, fans, lights, and stuff worked

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It did

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 10:53 PM

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no no, no need to take it out

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i would just like you to take a picture of the full board

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basically, what you see when you look into the case itself @stark laurel

hollow thorn Nov 18, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Just take a picture of the board, no matter where it is.

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 10:54 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Like I said I'm just waiting on installing a CPU and GPU

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📎 image0.jpg

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:02 PM

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the flex you felt is just the normal "in between 2 standoffs" flex @stark laurel

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I don't know why I thought the USB 3 header on motherboard was usually on the right side of the motherboard

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:03 PM

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because on some boards it is :)

drowsy elk Nov 18, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I was given a computer with an Asrock-B450M-IBW in it, but i cant find any info on the mobo anywhere, it needs fans and a couple other things but i cant find the Mobo online anywhere to figure out the things i need, like how many fan plugins it has and such

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 11:12 PM

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For my motherboard, I was able to download the manual on the MSI website

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See if you can download the motherboard manual on the ASrock website

drowsy elk Nov 18, 2020, 11:13 PM

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if i search for the MB on asrock site they say no data lol

pure current Nov 18, 2020, 11:14 PM

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If I have 2 different colors of corsair vengeance pro ram (4 sticks) will it cause any issues?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vfDJ7P/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmw16gx4m2c3200c16w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QDhKHx/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmw16gx4m2c3200c16

stark laurel Nov 18, 2020, 11:17 PM

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@pure current they need to have the exact same specs, timing, Cas Latency, First Word Latency, and speed

pure current Nov 18, 2020, 11:21 PM

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okay ty

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@drowsy elk you got the option of taking a photo and sending it to me in a DM of the board?

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 11:27 PM

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how does the bios flashback port work on motherboards

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and what exactly do they do

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:28 PM

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they bypass the normal post process of the board to engage the bare minimum of things needed to perform the process

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hence why you will see a very specific naming scheme etc used for the guide

dense grove Nov 18, 2020, 11:31 PM

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What's up everyone. I'm a noob at builds, I have a couple of questions. I'm building a budget rig, from an old dell Vostro 260. It has a Celeron g460, that obviously has to go. How far up the ladder can I go with this. It's an 1155 socket, but am I limited to Sandy Bridge, or will any 1155 work? I have 3 cpu's laying around, an I5-2500k, an I7-2600, and an I7-3770.

drowsy elk Nov 18, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@gritty meadow yes gimme a second

naive pendant Nov 18, 2020, 11:32 PM

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ok thanks

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i understand now

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@dense grove your main problem is the bios support

dense grove Nov 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@gritty meadow meaning?

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Dell might have limited the bios support

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for what cpu's it allows in the board

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a quick google should answer it for you thou.

rapid thunder Nov 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I have a question that I am trying to settle for myself. I'm working on a system rebuild with a Ryzen 3000 chip and hopefully upgrade to a Ryzen 5000 chip when the supply and my wallet both allow. My question is about what memory to get.

I'm looking at a 3600 CL18 kit and a 3600 CL16 kit.

The CL16 kit is about $13 more expensive. Should I spring for it or save the $13? Is there a meaningful performance boost to be gained by the lower CL memory?

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

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there is a small gain @rapid thunder

prisma nymph Nov 18, 2020, 11:38 PM

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There’s a chart in pinned for reference

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:38 PM

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ask yourself this: Are you planning on using this system for many years?

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the longer you are planning on using it, the more that small gain will matter

rapid thunder Nov 18, 2020, 11:38 PM

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It is intended to be long term.

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:38 PM

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and the less those 13usd is going to "cost" you

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if that makes sense?

rapid thunder Nov 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I follow.

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Thank you for the advice.

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

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you are very welcome :)

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and best of luck with the system :)

drowsy elk Nov 18, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I was given a computer with an Asrock-B450M-IBW in it, but i cant find any info on the mobo anywhere, it needs fans and a couple other things but i cant find the Mobo online anywhere to figure out the things i need, like how many fan plugins it has and such
Naed answered my question 🙂 tyvm

hoary palm Nov 18, 2020, 11:58 PM

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@drowsy elk i know it already got answered but i wanna feel important, find the model number of the board and throw it into google and it should say

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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its a OEM model

hoary palm Nov 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Oof, idk then

gritty meadow Nov 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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and the model is there :)

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so it was solved with a picture of the board itself and a talk about what does what :)

hoary palm Nov 19, 2020, 12:04 AM

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👍🏼

naive pendant Nov 19, 2020, 12:12 AM

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hey guys, im not really a pc builder (never built one in my life) ad i got a question

eager shore Nov 19, 2020, 12:13 AM

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ask away

naive pendant Nov 19, 2020, 12:14 AM

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ok so i have this crappy hp pavilion and im putting another stick of ram in it and i dont know if it should be off or on

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its also a diff brand than the one in it atm

eager shore Nov 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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turn it off, first of all

gritty meadow Nov 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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and please pull the power cord too :)

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rule of thumb: if you are changing anyhing IN the case. pull the power cord

eager shore Nov 19, 2020, 12:16 AM

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and im pretty sure that as long as the ram is the same form factor and voltage, you should be fine, though i may be wrong

gritty meadow Nov 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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please dont add rum to your machine :)

eager shore Nov 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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oh good idea