#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 148

tall trail Nov 11, 2020, 12:16 AM

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BET!

cyan night Nov 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

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if you want the cpus just walk into a physical store

grand lily Nov 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

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wait would it be better to try and and a 5600x in person or wait for a restock online

tough wyvern Nov 11, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I also got that email from B&H

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But my ETA is December 21

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That's fine with me tbh, I already bought a 3600 in case it was going to take awhile. I figured it might be a couple months and December is fine. It'll be an xmas gift to myself 🥳

cyan night Nov 11, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@grand lily Id recommend in person if you have a store nearby you. I was watching my stores stock count and caught it with 9 stocked so me and my friend drove 25 mins and by the time we got there and got ours there were 3-4 left still

olive ether Nov 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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ryzen 5 3600x or intel i7 10700

stone acorn Nov 11, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Which store Fab?

vast granite Nov 11, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Wait I want an ETA

grand lily Nov 11, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@cyan night alright thanks ill make sure to check my local best buy and microcenter

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 2:15 AM

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feral pier Nov 11, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Did anyone else who ordered a 5000 series cpu from newegg at launch time get their farcry 6 code?

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They seem to be absolutely dead set on not giving us the codes we should've gotten

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:28 AM

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anyone know how to get ram to run at advertised speed on ryzen systems

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:29 AM

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xmp

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:29 AM

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on rog board its called docp and when i do it my system doesnt boot

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:30 AM

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other profile

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asus bios weird

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:30 AM

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the other ones are auto and manual

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:31 AM

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welp what ram and specific board

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:32 AM

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rog b450-f and corsair vengence rgb pro 3600mhz

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:33 AM

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what CPU

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:33 AM

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r5 2600 oof

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i hate it

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:35 AM

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that's the problem

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2600 won't support 3600mhz

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:38 AM

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really

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dang

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whats the highest it will support cause i had 3200 and that was too high as well i guess

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:38 AM

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3200c16 should be fine

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 2:39 AM

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will x570 and b550 work with a 2700x?

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:41 AM

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The key consideration with B550 is that, while AMD has confirmed the chipset will support future Zen 3 processors, these boards won't support Ryzen 2000 and earlier processors, or Ryzen 3000 APUs like the Ryzen 5 3400G--at least at launch.

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i got thyat from toms hardware forum

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 2:41 AM

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because ive heard mixed information, Thank you!

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:42 AM

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x570 will though

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Do you have any good recconmedations for any budget x570 boards? 190 and below?

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:44 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-X570-Plus-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07SXF8GY3/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=x570&qid=1605062641&sr=8-2

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im not seeing too many cheaper then this

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X570-Gaming-Plus-Motherboard/dp/B07T5QDRFX/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=x570&qid=1605062641&refinements=p_36%3A-18000&rnid=386442011&sr=8-6

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Don't get a X570 gaming plus

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bad idea, VRM overheating issues

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@solid shuttle cheapest decent board I see rn
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1487155-REG/asus_90mb11n0_m0aay0_prime_x570_p_am4_atx.html

ASUS PRIME X570-P AM4 ATX Motherboard

Buy ASUS PRIME X570-P AM4 ATX Motherboard featuring ATX Form Factor, AMD X570 Chipset, Socket AM4, 4 x Dual-Channel DDR4-4400 (OC), 6 x SATA III, 2 x M.2, 2 x PCIe 4.0 x16, 3 x PCIe 4.0 x1, Realtek S1200A 8-Channel HD Audio, Realtek RTL8111H Gigabit LAN. Review ASUS X570-P

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:48 AM

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yeah he is the smart one so listen t him

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also thank you for the help i found that 2933 is the fastest 2 gen ryzen supports

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Well, fastest guaranteed

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3200 USUALLY works, but not always.

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considered to be OCed

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 2:58 AM

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oh yeah

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 3:04 AM

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also thank you for the help i found that 2933 is the fastest 2 gen ryzen supports
@wheat trail so the 2700x only supports 2933 and i shouldnt bother with 3200+mhz?

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 3:05 AM

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yes

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i would get the r5 3600 instead with 3200mhz

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its 20 dollars cheaper i think

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@solid shuttle

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 3:15 AM

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im thinking of sttreaming and video creation, would i take a big hit on that getting only a 3600?

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 3:44 AM

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From what I’ve seen the ryzen 5 3600 is better

solid shuttle Nov 11, 2020, 3:45 AM

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ok ty

bright oasis Nov 11, 2020, 4:23 AM

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So I just got a 3600 used for a good price

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whats a good mobo for it

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I plan on overclocking but want to stay under $120

fresh river Nov 11, 2020, 4:25 AM

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@hollow thorn why don’t you recommend Corsair vengeance, and what alternative should I use around the $86 USD price point(RGB would be nice, I know I’ll get clowned)

eager shore Nov 11, 2020, 4:27 AM

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rgb on ram looks nice you won’t get clowned

shadow seal Nov 11, 2020, 4:42 AM

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anyone know if F4-3600C16D-32GTRSC is Dual rank?

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I can find the GTRS but not the GTRSC

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GTRS is Dual rank but I cant find info on the GTRSC

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nvm. its slightly cheaper due to Die type

wheat trail Nov 11, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Where did he say he doesn’t recommend it @fresh river

fresh river Nov 11, 2020, 4:52 AM

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heady root Nov 11, 2020, 4:54 AM

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crucial ballistic 3600 cl16 rgb

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90

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usd

supple monolith Nov 11, 2020, 6:15 AM

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If you value rgb ease of use and are willing to pay extra... I say go for it. I personally have some for my rig since I use iCue

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Def not the best value tho

blazing grove Nov 11, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Should I go for a i9 10900k or ryzen 9 5900x?

peak ledge Nov 11, 2020, 6:24 AM

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ryzen

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 6:24 AM

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from all I have seen, def. Ryzen

blazing grove Nov 11, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Yeah

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The only thing is I can't get one

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Will we ever see them soon?

stoic wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:08 AM

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No telling. I am having the same debate with myself. I have a couple more weeks before my queue spot for the 3090 comes up. If 5900x is still uber scarce, I'll go Intel.

blazing grove Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 AM

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How do you get in the queue?

stoic wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:29 AM

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In the notify queue at EVGA

blazing grove Nov 11, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Oh cool

stoic wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:51 AM

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I'm fine whichever way I choose. I am upgrading from an i5-2500k and a 1070 lol

naive pendant Nov 11, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Is there any word on when Zen 3 will restock?

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When it launched, none of the host sites had postings for it until well after everything sold out. Other's must have had direct links

frosty cliff Nov 11, 2020, 1:10 PM

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laaaaaaaaater

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someone ordered one and its estimated delivery time was 2021 march

naive pendant Nov 11, 2020, 1:11 PM

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wuuut

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that's insane

frosty cliff Nov 11, 2020, 1:14 PM

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yeah

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alot ordered i mean a lot

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best chance is like best buy or something

naive pendant Nov 11, 2020, 1:16 PM

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I'm planning on calling my local Best Buy to see when they plan on their next restock. It's too bad the closest Micro Centers to me are 2hr drives either direction

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Since they show limited stock on their site

frosty cliff Nov 11, 2020, 1:22 PM

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yeah

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@fresh river crucial ballistix 3600c16 at 75$, the rgb modules are around 85$

fresh river Nov 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Alright tyyy

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 2:45 PM

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What motherboard should I get from either the b550 gaming edge wifi, b550 aorus elite/ax, or b550 aorus pro/ac. My cpu will be the 5600x and the ram is the gskill ripjaws v 3600mHz cl16

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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those boards are all ATX boards, so i assume you dont want an mATX board

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yeah

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already have the meshify c for my case

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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elite ax is the cheapest of the bunch iirc

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Sassy

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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mr1111

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Say it with me now

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yeah I believe so

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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never

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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B550m

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Pro vdh wifi

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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pro-vdh

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wifi

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brocry

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331

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this one here is a pretty decent board

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especially for the price

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Oo back down to 107$

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It was 120$ for a bit

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:48 PM

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yeah

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 2:49 PM

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does this have bios flashback or some form of it so I can update the bios for the 5600x

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 2:49 PM

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its a new b550 board, it should be compatible ootb

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 2:50 PM

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@patent jewel it does

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Most MSI boards do

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 3:03 PM

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how would that look in my case

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the mAtx in an atx case

hollow bluff Nov 11, 2020, 3:23 PM

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bigsad

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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thinkin about buying a ryzen 5000 series cpu and pairing it with the asus prime x570 pro

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any thoughts?

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ye

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im learning how to update the bios for it 🙃

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cause the mobo "might" require a bios update

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(it doesnt have a flash button to press so I get to do it the fun way)

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is there a time it wouldn't need one?

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oooh

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good point

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not much of a problem indeed, although ive never done it

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only one way to find out if it needs an update: try to boot it with the 5000 series installed and see if it works :)

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(right?)

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I saw you typin boi

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 3:53 PM

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any board that has been manufactured in the last 1½ month has the support

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 3:53 PM

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love_it

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tankyou

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and hi again

cinder sphinx Nov 11, 2020, 4:18 PM

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should I use pcie gen 3 m.2 slot for boot drive and pcie gen 4 m.2 slot for other stuff? or just have a higher storage space on pcie gen 4 m.2 for both boot and other stuff?

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 4:19 PM

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highest speed m.2 is where you place the os

fallen lynx Nov 11, 2020, 5:24 PM

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if you have the budget, get the largest M.2 Gen4 drive you can for boot and other stuff

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:25 PM

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The sabrent rocket q4 should be soon

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:25 PM

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that moment when going from 500gb to 1tb on a gen 4 is a difference of $50 🙃

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no offense intended at all, I just think its funny

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Hm?

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@blissful dragon that's the same difference on gen 3 most of the time

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60-70 to 110-135

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I would actually recommend the gigabyte aorus gen 4

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saves money and includes a heatsink if ur into that

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I'd wait for the Sabrent rocket q4

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It's a high capacity gen 4 drive that should be priced quite well.

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:28 PM

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when's q4 again?

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right around now right?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@blissful dragon it's the name of the drive

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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oh name

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Sabrent rocket Q for QLC, 4 for gen 4

fallen lynx Nov 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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yeah but QLC has drawbacks for boot drives i think. i forget what exactly tho

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Hm? Not really

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It's just slower

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But as a slower gen 4 drive, it still beats gen 3 drives iirc

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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uhh

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why did microcenter just drop all their ryzen 5000 cpus

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:32 PM

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?

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:33 PM

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everywhere is out of ryzen 5000 series now?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Yes

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Everywhere has been out for a bit

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:35 PM

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they had some like 2 days ago

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 5:36 PM

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In store prob

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Online sold out real quickly

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I can drive to one :)

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bestbuy too but I no trust them with price markups -_-

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newegg is so weird cause I can barely find anything not bundled with the 5900x

tardy current Nov 11, 2020, 5:59 PM

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how bad are older xeons

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in terms of singlethreaded performance

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 6:00 PM

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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php

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use it

stoic wolf Nov 11, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Microcenter has been in store only since launch. Best Buy is all online only currently per their site and the store manager I just talked to.

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:03 PM

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is the b550 gaming edge wifi a good b550 board?

jovial flare Nov 11, 2020, 7:05 PM

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yes

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any b550 is great

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link?

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:05 PM

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just a sec

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144324?Description=gaming edge wifi&cm_re=gaming_edge wifi-_-13-144-324-_-Product

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:06 PM

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it's decent

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not great sound chip

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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what about the b550 aorus pro/ac or the b550 aorus elite/ax

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax/p/N82E16813145243?Description=b550 aorus&cm_re=b550_aorus-_-13-145-243-_-Product&quicklink=true

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac/p/N82E16813145216?Description=b550 aorus&cm_re=b550_aorus-_-13-145-216-_-Product

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first one is the aorus elite ax and the second one is the b550 aorus pro ac

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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150$ for the elite ax looks good

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tho no bios flashback

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I am tempted to go for the b550 gaming edge wifi because of the onboard ax200 wifi

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on the elite

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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the elite ax has onboard ax200?

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hm

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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no the gaming edge wifi

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I'm saying elite does too

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blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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is the 5900x overkill? depends
is it overkill for me? yes
will I still buy it? yes
why? because overkill

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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ok

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I rest my case

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I wish mobo sheet gets updated soon

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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the elite ax has bios flashback as well

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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you sure?

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can't find it

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@blissful dragon also known as "want VS need"

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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whats ur opinions on b550 vs x570?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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mobo sheet doesn't have anything on it, so not completely sure

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blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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personally I see the b550 as more stable but less pcie 4.0 slots :)

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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its on the io on the pictures on the newegg website I don't know if that is good though

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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equally stable

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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@gritty meadow and my bank thinks it's a want

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yeah idk why

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just kinda weird thinking of mine

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@hollow thorn check manufacturers site

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I did

vivid pewter Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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What is a good x570 motherboard under 200?

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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asus tuf

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@gritty meadow different brand terminology hurts me

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because Q-Flash is usually bios flash through bios

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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welcome to marketing having a field day

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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and aparently q-flash plus is bios flashback

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patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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on the 5th picture of newegg it has a white usb port with the bios flashback button next to it

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I like MSI's terminology, bios flashback button is so simple

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@patent jewel IF you cannot find it on the manufacturers page, it does not mean anything

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a vendor (amazon/newegg/whatever) can be wrong without anything more than a "oops!"

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:16 PM

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ok I will check

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:16 PM

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vs a manufacturer being wrong = a horde of fanboys just waiting for an excuse to light the torches and wield the pitchforks

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:16 PM

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this is what it says on the manufacturers website: Q-Flash Plus Update BIOS without Installing the CPU, Memory and Graphics Card

blissful dragon Nov 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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a disappointed linus

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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2nd to last point

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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and @patent jewel i am not saying you are wrong. Just pointing out why its always a good thing to check at the source :)

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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yep i get that

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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good :)

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I think that I might purchase that one because it is on sale right now on Newegg

vivid pewter Nov 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Is the only difference between the asus tuf x570 wifi and the non-wifi just the wifi component?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:20 PM

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For that board, I think so.

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I'm done w/ MSI, having RAM issues using their Z390 Gaming Edge AC mobo and they they want to blame the RAM errors on my Corsair RAM even tho the same RAM works on their own Z390M Gaming Edge AC, and is not on either of their "approved list".

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I'd blame the corsair ram lel

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QVL is only crap they've tested.

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what kind of ram issues?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:22 PM

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makes no sense it is the RAM when it works fine in another of their boards and it works fine in 2 other boards we tried

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:22 PM

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What exactly is the issue?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:23 PM

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BSoD constantly, whether RAM is XMP'd or not. I MeMTest86'd it and between 4 and 8 errors per pass

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:23 PM

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do you guys know what sata ports are disabled when i put an m.2 in the b550 aorus elite ax because it only has 4 and normally it would be 5 and 6 tat get disabled

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 PM

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same components on the Z390M and not a single error in MemTest

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@patent jewel should not be any disabled in that

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Interesting

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 PM

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that is one of the changes between b450 and b550

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:24 PM

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if any do get disabled the manual would mention it @patent jewel

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:25 PM

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thanks that was the only problem I had with it

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Still a thing in a few of the things.

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@tranquil wolf tried stressing the controller on the z490 atx board?

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the IMC

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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do you have a link for that comparison list?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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pinned in channel

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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yes it's interesting to me too @hollow thorn bc like i said to MSI, nothing changes between the two except the mobo itslef and one has the issue and the other does not, and no i have not

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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ok thank you

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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light version here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs

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@tranquil wolf try stressing the IMC

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on it

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:26 PM

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thank you

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:27 PM

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how would i do that @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@gritty meadow p95 largefft should be fun for stressing IMC right?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:28 PM

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ah that, yes i have done that lol

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:28 PM

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there's some occt crap that I don't touch

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I don't mean smallfft for CPU, but largefft for the imc

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:28 PM

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benchmark is only that, benchmark

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but yes, in theory, it should

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Do you know the OCCT thing?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:29 PM

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OCCT tossed hundreds of errors when i run it on the ATX, p95 crashes PC completely

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not a single issue w/ either on the mATX

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:29 PM

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lmao

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smallfft crashes?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:30 PM

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if i remember correctly it does, it was between the 1st and 2nd RMA (month ago maybe?)

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:30 PM

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alright so

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which prime95 test crashes

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I wonder if it's smth wrong with mem traces or the IMC or smth

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or hell, maybe it's windows giving a fit

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:31 PM

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idk i will have to hook it up again and run it tomorrow on day off, i kinda need the PC for work today lol

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:31 PM

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would be funny if it was a VRM issue lol

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there's smth wrong, but who knows what exactly

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@tranquil wolf the build in question: you are certain the cpu cooler is mounted correct right?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:33 PM

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yes I am

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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so, no chance of the screws being too tight or anything?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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nope

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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have to ask :)

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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snug all around, equal torque

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nope i get it

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the thing is i can take RAM out of 1/3 slots and have no issues, swap the RAM around so 2/4 always have RAM in it in any combo of the 4 (stick 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 1/3, 1/4, 2/4) and there always is the BSOD issue

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i have also tried it w/ just one in 4 (closest to CPU) and get the errors as well

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:39 PM

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and you have ofc done cmos resets etc?

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:39 PM

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yes i have

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the board is set to do it any time there is a change in RAM/CPU

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and i always click the "Reset" in BIOS, as well as tried the CMOS jumper

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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the following is not a comfort as such for you @tranquil wolf, but that "just" sounds like you have found a "one of a kind" board.

Those are normally the ones we ship by way of trebuchet back to the manufacturer

Which we then normally follow up with sending every other single item that has been in use on that board to their
respective manufacturers.

Because the time needed to figure out what exactly is actually wrong ... is just not worth it for us.

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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i am just going to switch to another board I have likely on Fri and do away w/ using MSI mobos completely @gritty meadow

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like i said everything else works fine on another MSI board

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even XMP on and CPU OC'd

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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what msi board?

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which model

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Z390 Gaming Edge AC

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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ok

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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aye aye @tranquil wolf just trying to give some context for you. I personally have nothing invested in you using whatever part :)

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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the z390M version I have works fine tho @patent jewel

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no i understand the statement @gritty meadow and i appreciate the input,, i am just saying i am just that fed up w/ them lol

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

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aye aye, and that is certainly understandable :)

tranquil wolf Nov 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

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liek i have 2 MSI monitors and a GPU, which all work fine, it's just the darn board

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

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would it be that much more of a performance boost to go with the b550 gaming edge wifi from the aorus elite ax

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like are the vrms better?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 7:58 PM

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it's called having a better sound chip :P

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I think that I have heard about msi has some RAM issues for 5000 series ryzen atm

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is this true

fresh river Nov 11, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I think theres issues with x570 boards

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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elaborate

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I know their x570 boards are bad

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I was saying that I think that have ram stability issues

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 8:50 PM

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considering how new the chips are

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it would be close to impossible to know what is user error and what is actual error

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I mean atm should I go for the elite ax or the gaming edge wifi for b550 as they are a 10 dollar difference in price are the vrms any better is the audio, io, features any better for it?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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oh well

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they're about the same

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your choice in the end

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 9:11 PM

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could someone tell me if this build is good
https://newegg.io/4cbaa7c
and compatible

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:19 PM

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its compatible@woeful ember , but its overpriced for what it is

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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whats a better one u can find

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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mainboard = overpriced

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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whats a better one

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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ssd : better for same or very close to same price

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before i start digging into that, when are you building?

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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next month

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when i sell my laptop

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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2sec then

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@hollow thorn got you 800usd list on hand?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 9:38 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/2P8cbv

Mr1111's 800$ 3100+2060

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sorry for the late response, was helping another person in DMs

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:39 PM

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no worries, i am split in 4 places myself

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@woeful ember for a gaming machine, the above would be faster than what you had

woeful ember Nov 11, 2020, 9:40 PM

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i dont want no 4 core head lookin as

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 9:43 PM

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that is your choice.

naive pendant Nov 11, 2020, 9:53 PM

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troll_tom

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 10:11 PM

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so I only have to get my cpu, gpu, mobo, and cpu cooler I am planning on getting the cpu whenever it comes in stock (r5 5600x) planning on getting the mobo either this week because of the sales they are on or BF because of possible sales (aorus elite ax, aorus pro ac, gaming edge wifi b550) and cpu cooler at the end of the month (Scythe Fuma 2) and gpu in January (3070, 6800) Thoughts?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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in decemeber are the x570 boards going to be compatiable with ryzen 5000 series out the box ?

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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they are now

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I Mean like out the box

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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depending on where you get the board

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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sassy

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what is that pfp

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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don't worry about it

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lmfao

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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approx 2 weeks ahead of zen 3 launch, all 500 series boards began shipping with the new bios required for the new chips

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old meme

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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AGESA 1.0.8 released a few weeks back

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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oooooooooold meme

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 10:39 PM

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like 2 months back

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for mobos

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so as long as you got stock from after the specific mobo got their AGESA 1.0.8 update

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you good

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

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so motherboard with that update supports ryzen 5000 series cpus out the box?

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

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yes

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so, any brand new 500 series board you order has a 99% chance of being compatible at this point in time

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Does anyone have an opinion on my question i posted earlier

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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another question

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I have a ryzen 5 3600 now wouldn't I be able to flash the bios and stuff to get it to work with ryzen 5000 series if I get a x570 not currently supporting it?

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:46 PM

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@hollow thorn how does 5600x run on stock cooler? do you happen to know?

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I have a ryzen 5 3600 now wouldn't I be able to flash the bios and stuff to get it to work with ryzen 5000 series if I get a x570 not currently supporting it?
@carmine lynx yes

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what are you upgrading your 3600 to?

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 10:47 PM

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my question for reference:

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so I only have to get my cpu, gpu, mobo, and cpu cooler I am planning on getting the cpu whenever it comes in stock (r5 5600x) planning on getting the mobo either this week because of the sales they are on or BF because of possible sales (aorus elite ax, aorus pro ac, gaming edge wifi b550) and cpu cooler at the end of the month (Scythe Fuma 2) and gpu in January (3070, 6800) Thoughts?

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this is about whether I should get my remaining parts now or later

finite tiger Nov 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@patent jewel personally, I'd go with a x570 mobo with the prices as they are and more features for roughly the same price. I'd wait until BF & CM. better deals coming on MOBO and new MOBO from ASRock coming on 11/13: X570 PG Velocita for $264.99

patent jewel Nov 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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all of the boards that I stated I am thinking of b550 @finite tiger

finite tiger Nov 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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also I have been told x570 Taichi will be on sale for $265 on BF

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@main pulsar no idea, power draw looks like 3600, with the same cooler.

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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so its prolly really similar

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@main pulsar hopefully a ryzen 9 5900x

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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what will you be using the 5900x for?

hollow thorn Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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mhm

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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vr/gaming/multitasking

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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12 cores is alot of cores

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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yeah I know its overkill

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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so just gaming?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Its overkill

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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with chrome and other stuff in the background i assume

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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it may be overkill, but that doesnt mean it needs to be

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you could put that 250 dollars towards your gpu or monitor

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I already have a 240hz monitor

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and gpu can't get rn

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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then you save up for gpu

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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no like it is almost impossible to get a 3080

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I have to wait

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I am going to try and get it for my birthday

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:56 PM

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like, im gonna be honest, going from a 3600 to literally any other better cpu isnt really gonna make a huge noticable difference

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if all youre doing is gaming

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:56 PM

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vr it could make a big difference

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other then that

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not really

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:57 PM

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the 5600x would be helpful to push 240fps in games, sure, but that upgrade wouldnt be worth 300 dollars

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and no, it wont make any difference in vr

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vr is heavily gpu bound, and limited to 90fps in most headsets

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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oh damn

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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so there would be literally no difference

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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fair enough

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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what games are you looking to play?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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honestly no idea

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like I said

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it is overkill

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for no reason

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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like, what are the most graphics intensive games you can think of

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overkill for no reason is for people like me, who are enthusiasts

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for you, its kinda meaningless

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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true

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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you want your system to look cool and perform

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i want mine to push out high benchmark scores lol

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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true

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but at the point I am now

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I have a 2060 super and a ryzen 5 3600

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16 gigs of ram

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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for a 1080p 240hz monitor i assume

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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the 2 things that are going to make the heaviest performance is a new gpu and maybe 16 gigs more of ram

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that is it

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and I can't get a new gpu

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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are there games you play now that struggle to run near 240fps?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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oh god yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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have you adjusted graphics settings to get them to run better?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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are any of the games that struggle FPS games?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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which ones

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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thats mainly what I play

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the only game I could run 240 fps+ was fortnite

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and I uninstalled that

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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lol

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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warzone

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I get like 80 to 100

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on lowest settings

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and lets say I quit out of that game 99% of the time my ram is maxed for the rest of the day until I restart it

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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MW 2019 is terribly optimized, so that doesnt suprise me

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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and lets say I quit out of that game 99% of the time my ram is maxed for the rest of the day until I restart it
@carmine lynx

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explain

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I don't understand

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okay

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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is MW running in the background still?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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nope

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check task manager and everything

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it is still at like 80% mem usage

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for no reason

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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sort by mem usage

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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and I have to restart my pc because of it

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I do

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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what process is using it all?

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I think google

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and maybe discord

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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you dont have hundreds of chrome tabs open

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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but at the same time I could task manager google and it would still be at like 60%

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I know

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it doesn't make sense

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like I used to shut down my pc at night and then turn it back on

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I would look at task manager

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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that sounds like a software config issue, not a hardware issue

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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60%+ mem usage

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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i think if you really want to get the most fps you can in your games, the best route would be a 5600x. single core perf can be a big limiting factor in fps

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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it might be because I don't have XMP turned on neither can I get it turned on

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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but, its also a 300 dollar upgrade

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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not as bad as 550

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:07 PM

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im curious, launch warzone up, and go into the settings and enable all of the monitoring options

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idr how you get to them, but they are in the game settings

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and they can show you the gpu and cpu frame time

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I uninstalled that game

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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rip

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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yeah

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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the new amd gpus are releasing sometime next week

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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are they any good?

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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they are supposed to be on par with nvidias

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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oh dam n

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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but we will wait and see

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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hopefullyl

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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something like a 6800 and a 5600x might be the better buy

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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maybe

finite tiger Nov 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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AMD GPUs release 11/18

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I will have to look into them

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but the plan for me as of the current moment is a 3080 some sort of ryzen 5th gen cpu new motherboard 360mm aio and a 1000W power supply

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and a new case

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Anyone have any hints on when the new viii dark hero motherboard will release, been refreshing all the us retailers for a week now with no luck

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@carmine lynx sounds like a dope setup! I have something similar as well and love it, only waiting on a mb now

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:17 PM

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dman

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damn*

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if I do actually get that setup

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I will have one of the better computers for my age

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Hell yeah man, sadly everything is full price now compared to before covid, so it'll be even more expensive to obtain

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:19 PM

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yeah

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I hoep to have most of hte setup done before I turn 15

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Wow that's impressive! When I was your age I had a 500 dollar general use PC for gaming

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@silver siren what do you need 400 dollars in motherboard for?

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@main pulsar wanted to be able to overclock the 5950x I ordered and maintain single core perf too haha

carmine lynx Nov 11, 2020, 11:22 PM

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the motherboard I want is 400 right now because prices got jacked up

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I heard that's the only motherboard that can do that currently

vast granite Nov 11, 2020, 11:22 PM

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What mobo

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Idk about booro but I'm talking about the rog dark hero viii

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

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rog boards are more like 300 dollars in mobo, 100 dollars for the rog logo

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I saw it had some feature that allows single thread perf to be the same when overclocking, otherwise Id go with a cheaper one, my current one is a maximus xi code which has been working good so figured I keep using them

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:25 PM

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i mean, of course its gonna work great

#

its 400 dollars

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i would be ashamed of asus if it had any sort of flaw

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Well I had 2 older asus tuf that had flaw upon completing the build

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M.2 slot not working, etc

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 11:30 PM

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@silver siren that is just statistics of mass production

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it is equally likely to happen on a 80usd board

silver siren Nov 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@gritty meadow that's true, I haven't had any issue with my current rog one so don't mind spending more to get the same thing, no stores in the US has any in stock yet however

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

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as long as you are aware that paying more doesnt protect against that, then all is well :)

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i mention it, because some people are convinced that because they paid X then it will ofc work

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:53 PM

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i mention it, because some people are convinced that because they paid X then it will ofc work
@gritty meadow i should be clear thats not what i intended to say, but i see how thats exactly how it sounded

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:P

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 11:53 PM

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i did not think you meant it like that at all @main pulsar

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it was a general observation on how users justify spending X

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I actually have an ASUS TUF and it's not working right now. My guess is the cpu but hey, hard to tell

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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would you like some help figuring out what the issue is?

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Sure

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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was this board previously in a fully functional build?

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I know the psu and video card is working, fan are spinning but then no beep nor qled activated

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nope, it's brand new

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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so the system has never properly worked

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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nope

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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is it the x570 asus tuf? I've been reading reviews that states it has issue with wifi and windows 10

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Yes, x570

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But I can't boot it at all

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nothing on the hdmi output

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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hm, maybe send it back for replacement

#

at this point if you can't troubleshoot it there isn't much you can do

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I did that already

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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the q code indicator doesnt light up at all?

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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nope

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so I'm at the point that it might be the cpu

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so I recalled it

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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is it the plus wifi?

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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yes

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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not to make you sound dumb, just want to make sure, for the hdmi did you plug it into the gpu or the mobo?

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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tried both, still no picture

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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that's so weird

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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i dont think that board has a q code status indicator

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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maybe it's DOA

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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DOA?

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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dead on arrival

gritty meadow Nov 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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you have not asked what CPU it is yet

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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It's a 3600xt AMD

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It should be compatible right?

wild moat Nov 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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it should be out of the box

main pulsar Nov 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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yep

sudden sierra Nov 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I know the psu and video card work because I could try them on a friend rig

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so that leave the cpu?

wild moat Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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yea that too i suppose

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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do the symptoms change when you remove all the ram?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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I RMA the mobo already, now it,s the cpu turn :p

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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oh

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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just to verify. gaming x570-plus @sudden sierra ?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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no, I tried that

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yes

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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yeah. plus wifi

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do you remember what the system did with no memory installed?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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nothing

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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it did the exact same thing?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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yeah

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it feel like the issue is happening before the qlead checks

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I don't know

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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how old is the board?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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New

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received it last thursday

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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there is a chance, that the bios is not updated on it.

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1404 is needed for 3600xt

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its a VERY small chance

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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what's the default ? any chance to know ?

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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without a display, you cannot know

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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That's like my last guess if the replacement cpu doesn't work

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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1404 was released almost exactly one year ago

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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aye, hence the very small note :)

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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the odds are veeeeeeeery small

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nearly impossible if it was a new board

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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yes, just remember, new and actually new are two very different things

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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unlucky

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thats the word

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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July 07, 2019

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That's when they started selling it

devout mothBOT Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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phbou#6887 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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aye aye, but again. for what we are talking about here to be what is the cause

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your particular board has been on shelf in a warehouse since before the start of november of 2019

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where did you buy from @sudden sierra ?

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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newegg

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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not impossible then

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we know they dont use FIFO

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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The only solution I see is get an older cpu from ryzen then update the bios

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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amd can send you one

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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assuming the bios version was good, either the system was working fine and it simply wasnt displaying properly, or there was a catastrophic issue with the board prior to POST. if the board had a real q code display it would be easier to know

compact sun Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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ok so, i got an asus maximus hero x wifi, what asus software do ya HAVE to put on it, cause i just reinstalled windows 10 and everything seems to work but theres no asus stuff on it right now.....

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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but again. its VERY unlikely this is the reason

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@compact sun no asus software is needed

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unless you want to mess with RGB

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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but AI suite might be nice to have.

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@gritty meadow yeah, that was i think too

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what*

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but what the chance the cpu might be bad too ?

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both case pretty unlucky

compact sun Nov 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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ya the ez updater kept tellin me the intel drivers needed updating but never would update em so i reinstalled windows 🙂

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:10 AM

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getting a doa component isnt very common, getting 2 for the same build is even less so

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but yeah, could happen

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well, the board is gone, so when the new board comes, slap the 3600xt in there, see what happens

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do it outside of the case, not after you have finished building

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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board as already rma, its the new cpu I'm waiting :/

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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oh, you rma'd the cpu as well?

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that works

sudden sierra Nov 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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yes

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because the first board I had no sign at all

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no qled on board with the tcheap mobo I took

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it was an ASUS Prime B550M-A

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that's why i think it's the cpu...

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I hoped to get another clue here but doesn't seem like an easy to crack problem :/

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 12:19 AM

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i guess just wait and see

echo sage Nov 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Quick question, what motherboards can any of you guys recommend for a budget of 200$?

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I'm looking for something that can have me set for a long many years

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 12:40 AM

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@echo sage what cpu

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Should I purchase a couple of the last parts that I need now or should I wait until about January (which is when I will build) because of deals now. The boards I am thinking of are the B550 gaming edge wifi or if it ever comes back to msrp the MSI mag x570 tomahawk should I wait or should I take advantage of deals

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 12:56 AM

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check on the return policies on retailers, i think amazon changed it so that eligible items that you buy now, you can return before jan 31st iirc

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 AM

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yeah

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@patent jewel buy at the same time

prisma nymph Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 AM

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if you're buying the last parts now, why wouldnt you build now as well?

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 12:58 AM

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don't have the money for all of my parts as well as stocking issues

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should I go for the cpu whenever i see it as it will be the 5600x

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the only things left that I am getting will be the R5 5600x, the b550 gaming edge wifi or msrp x570 tomahawk, Scythe Fuma 2, and either RTX 3070 or the rx 6800

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so I should wait until around January to get everything except my cpu because that i should just get when I see it in stock because of limited stock

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or am I wrong

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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5600x good

echo sage Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@hollow thorn Lets say I was going for the latest cpus AMD has to offer

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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most b550-x570 boards will do just fine, so it doesnt really matter

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Yea

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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5600x stock cooler is probably fine

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so no need for scythe fuma 2

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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smth like a B550 aorus elite wifi at 150$ is becoming my mid end suggestion for whatever reason

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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unless you want it then go ahead

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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fuma 2 is going a bit crazy for a 5600x

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more a 5900x kinda cooler, but overkill is overkill

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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would you guys recommend the x570 tomohawk for a 5900x

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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are you overclocking it at all?

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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or would a x570 gaming plus get the job done

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i dont really plan on i just have 2 gen 4 drives thats why

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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tbh something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I would prefer an after market cooler what other cooler would you recommend for the 5600x then?

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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would get the job done

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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i just have 2 gen 4 nvme drives which is the issue

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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ahh

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so x570 it is

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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indeed

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gaming plus?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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do not

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go for msi x570 gaming plus

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or msi x570 a pro

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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not gaming plus

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sorry the tuf

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the x570 tuf motherboard

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Asus x570 plus wifi is fine

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could be better

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:09 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4s/p/N82E16813157915 so this is a thing

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never really noticed it

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eww its not even full atx, its like slightly shorter

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:10 AM

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what after market coolers would you recommend for the 5600x @main pulsar

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I would prefer one

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:10 AM

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wdym prefer

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are you overclocking

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does your case have bad airflow

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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maybe ill just wait for black friday nvm

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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do you not like the look of the stock cooler

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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was debating buying the tomohawk thats up for 220 rn

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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no I have the Meshify C and yes

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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i see

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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to the last question

mellow current Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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update: finally got my pc working again. The problem was the fried mobo but I just installed a new one and it works like a new.

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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@main pulsar x570 PG4 had vrm heating issues too

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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what do you think of AIOs?

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oh ok

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yeah ill just wait for blackfriday and hope the tomohawk is cheaper then

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ty for the help

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or the tuf either one if its reasonably cheaper

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I am ok with them but I would not want rgb as my build is not rgb and don't want to deal with cables. would definitely prefer air but what do you have?

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:12 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-p/p/N82E16813119199 would this be good?

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@patent jewel there are non rgb aios

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lemme find one

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:13 AM

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the be quiet! Pure loop, arctic liquid freezer 2

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:13 AM

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the freezer 2 is very good

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Noctua NH-U12a

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is very good

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:14 AM

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it is

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https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186249 darn

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oos

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:14 AM

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my only problem is the freezer 2 240 is 100 same with the u12a and the fuma 2 is only 60

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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U12a comes with benefits

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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its totally up to you

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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of Noctua goodness

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Freezer ii comes with benefits of better performance

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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what about the u12s

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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considering the stock cooler is good enough, literally any of these will do fine

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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oh yea both u12a and freezer ii should have better ram compatibility than fuma 2

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and maybe height

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prob not

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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just depends on what you like and what you want to pay

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:16 AM

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the fuma 2 does fit in my case iirc and it good for my ram as well thanks for the suggestions

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I will think about all of them

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:16 AM

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man i forgot that i should really check if my cpu cooler and mobo would fit with the gpu with atleast some clearance lmao

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new cards are beeeefy

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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they're not really beefy on the back

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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doesnt the dark rock pro 4 basically sit right up against a FE 3080

echo sage Nov 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Can a ASUS Maximus Hero vi hold a rtx 3000s gpu

gritty meadow Nov 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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ultra super deluxe bling edition, now with 2 inch of totally useless, but NICE looking heatsink on the back of the card

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@safe geode depends on board

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and also, technically, do you use that space for anything ?

surreal vortex Nov 12, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I'm trying to understand Newegg's listing for motherboards. If it says -- for the memory standard -- something like DDR 4600 (O.C.) does that mean the process needs to be OC'ed for the mobo to support RAM at that speed?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:19 AM

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AMD CPUs only theoretically support 2933 at stock.

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Anything above that is technically an OC for the IMC.

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:21 AM

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thinking about a tomohawk or tuf wonder if the cpu cooler (NHD15) would physically fit with a 3080 dk about 6800xt's yet

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im gonna check later cause pcpartpicker doesnt check for these rn

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:23 AM

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with a D15

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the concern is ram and case @safe geode

cursive quest Nov 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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3600 mhz cl 18 or 3200 mhz cl16?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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GPU doesn't matter

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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3600cl18

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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ye

cursive quest Nov 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Ok thanks

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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3600cl16 is only 75 dolla for 16gb tho

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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im getting some low profile crucial ballistix and case i think will be fine p500a

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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oh lp dimms

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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also i think you can move the fan on the right up a little

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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on the D15, yep

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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was just concerned about gpu clearance

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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gpu isnt even in the picture

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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yeah it would work

safe geode Nov 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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ah i see

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:27 AM

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so I should go with the rest of my parts all at the same time except cpu because whenever that comes in stock I will buy it

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I am conflicted because if I do that then I can miss out on some good BF deals but also get left out of the 30 return warranty

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though with amazon extending the return period until January 31st

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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@main pulsar am I correct with this assumption on the first question

main pulsar Nov 12, 2020, 2:00 AM

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sure

blissful dragon Nov 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Thoughts about buying zen 3 or just waiting for zen 4?

fresh river Nov 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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zen3 is pretty epic

blissful dragon Nov 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I think zen 4 will be expensive

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expensiver

fresh river Nov 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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well what are you upgrading from if you would buy zen3

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and I dont think zen3 is too expensive

blissful dragon Nov 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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i7 7700

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Startin to show its age a bit

fresh river Nov 12, 2020, 2:05 AM

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If it gets too slow go for zen3, but my i7 7700hq works pretty well

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granted its a laptop cpu

blissful dragon Nov 12, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Well you see

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Christmas is coming up

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And getting money for upgrading is possible

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I was gonna go just full overkill with the 5900x

fresh river Nov 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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That'll last you a very long time

blissful dragon Nov 12, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Yeah I know

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And I got 32GB of 3600 memory coming

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I think that waiting for zen 4 is good if you don’t mind the bank hating you

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Especially with possibly ddr5

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As far as performance over zen 3, idk if they can improve a bunch over a year or two

fleet jay Nov 12, 2020, 2:22 AM

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i'm a intel fanboy

trim moon Nov 12, 2020, 2:31 AM

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when running dual monitors what is being used the most in the pc

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 2:51 AM

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📎 IMG_20201111_205110.jpg

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👀

neat estuary Nov 12, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Now listen POI!!! Gib here!

prisma nymph Nov 12, 2020, 3:07 AM

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👀

hallow frigate Nov 12, 2020, 3:12 AM

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@late pine IMPOSSIBRU

midnight orbit Nov 12, 2020, 3:19 AM

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is this a good mobo

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450-pro4/p/N82E16813157841

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 3:22 AM

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why not b550

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Newegg checkout any% speedrun

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Frame perfect inputs

reef fog Nov 12, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Want to trade? Lol

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I ordered home, I am still at my apartment at uni so I can't even reach it for a little over a week

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;-;

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my dad took the picture

reef fog Nov 12, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Oof

tardy current Nov 12, 2020, 3:54 AM

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3600 or 2700 KnucklesThinking

charred venture Nov 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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3600

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:00 AM

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depends on what ur doing

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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y'all think it's worth waiting for the 5000 series or should I just get the Ryzen 9 3900x?

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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what are you going to use the cpu for

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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wait for em

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they're worth waiting for.

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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yes

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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lol, but the question is will they sell out like the 3080-90 and not be available for a while

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I mean

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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they already did

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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3080 stock is rolling in

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and yea

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5000 already sold out, and are slowly rolling in like rtx 3000

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:03 AM

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people who pre ordered from b&h are getting emails about fulfillment dates ranging anywhere from Late november/December to early march

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:03 AM

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sheesh

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:04 AM

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newegg and amazon seem to be putting up stock as soon as they get it tho

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📎 l43xla29lhy51.png

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screenshot from r/amd regarding 5900x

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realistically if you want one you will need to come up with a way to make your own web alert. By the time stock trackers like nowinstock go off it will be too late

naive pendant Nov 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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anybody want hookup for 5800x at 600$

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@naive pendant rule number 8: No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling just want to point that out

naive pendant Nov 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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ok

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guy DMed me about it and i didnt want it so was asking

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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how much is the 5900x?

naive pendant Nov 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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uh

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idk

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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All good just looking out for you not to get banned or removed

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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5900x is $550 msrp

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5800x is $450

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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whats the difference between the 2?

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core count?

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Tbh the 5800x is a much worse value but it's in stock much more often

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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or just base frequency

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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5900x has 4 more cores and twice the l3 cache

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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oh

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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5800x 8 core 5900x 12 core

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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-_-

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wow

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:25 AM

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The 5600x is 1 6 core ccx, 5800x is 1 8 core ccx, 5900x is 2 6 core ccx, 5950x is 2 8 core ccx

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Many are speculating the yeilds on the 8 core compute complexes are low which is why 5800x and 5950x are disproportionately expensive

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:26 AM

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yeah, unless you need more cores, a 5600x is good overall at its price point

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Yep for gaming 5600x is great and also actually in stock

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You can sell it and upgrade as your needs change

zealous sonnet Nov 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i wish intel wasnt so dang expensive

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compared to ryzen

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:29 AM

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bruh amd out there beating intel at intel prices

late pine Nov 12, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Intel has quicksync, avx512, and deep learning boost, but other than that I can't think of much reason to buy them rn unless you get a really good deal

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And those are all very niche

stoic wolf Nov 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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AMD out there where? 😂

eager shore Nov 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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bruh lisa su jus out there serving everyone's dinner

stoic wolf Nov 12, 2020, 5:04 AM

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She needs to feed Newegg because it looks like it crashed.

steel iris Nov 12, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Is this an okay kit of memory

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tranquil wolf Nov 12, 2020, 6:32 AM

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better make sure it's listed on the QVL for your mobo...

devout mothBOT Nov 12, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Designx#6272 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

cinder sphinx Nov 12, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Which is better? As for memory sticks, I'm thinking to change it to Corsair Vengeance rgb pro 64gb (2x 32gb) ddr4 3600mhz c18 cos it's cheaper by a bit in my country
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hkchkX
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTJhkX

System Builder

stark laurel Nov 12, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Has Newegg restocked their 5900X’s since the initial release

frosty cliff Nov 12, 2020, 12:39 PM

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shhh!

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Can someone help me understand ram better? If I run 4 x 8gb single rank memory the mbd will register it as 32gb dual rank? Same as if I ran 2 x 16gb Dual rank memory?? Excuse my ignorance

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 PM

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@dire bluff There's another piece of the equation, ram channels.

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lemme make an illustration for you

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Please do. I'm trying to be more educated so I can make better educated decision than "i seen it on youtube"

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@dire bluff alright, this might be good. From the CPU's perspective, these two are about the same (There's more complicated stuff with mem topology and other stuff thats... well... weird)

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dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Okay that makes sense

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4 dimms meaning 4 ram slots?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Yea

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Are dimm and ram interchangeable?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Mhm

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It stands for die something memory something, I forgot

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:08 PM

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As they're referring to the same item

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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But it's more common to call it dimm slots on the mobo

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Okay okay. I just wanted to make sure I understood properly

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So a mobo/cpu that only supports dual channel and has 4 dimms wouldn't be able to fully utilize 4 sticks of dual rank memory

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Well, it can.

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Do you mind explaining ?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Well, it's that weird memory topology stuff again xd, and the CPU can handle quad rank memory, though with a bit of trouble (Can't go as high frequency)

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Ahh okay. Do you know a resource where I could read up more on it so I don't steal away your whole day?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@dire bluff It's all complicated, I barely get it, but Buildzoid (Actually hardcore overclocking on YouTube), talks about mem topology and sticks in one of the videos, lemme see if I can find it

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lmao I think you're in luck, video released 3 hours ago

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dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Thank you a whole lot. I'm trying to figure out which ram to run with my 5950x and didn't wanna follow a YouTube build. Feels better if you figure it out yourself lol

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZbxMh5xUOg

YouTube

Actually Hardcore Overclocking

Practical demonstration of dual rank and single rank memory configu...

I forgot to mention that I did this on intel because on Ryzen the performance would behave all kinds of weird.

My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoid

Teespring: https://teespring.com/stores/actually-hardcore-overclocking
The Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/buildzoid
...

▶ Play video

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Thank you

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Oh, that vid is on Intel btw

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but it should talk about mem topology stuff, haven't seen it yet.

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Most AMD boards are daisy-chained btw, if he talks about t-topology vs daisy chained

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Okay. Ill try my best to somewhat understand it lol

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:22 PM

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This was the other video I was thinking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQwGGbW1AE

YouTube

Actually Hardcore Overclocking

Rambling about motherboard memory layouts.

AHOC Patreon/Shirts/Junkyard:http://cxzoid.blogspot.co.uk/p/support-fail.html
The Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/buildzoid
The Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/actuallyhardcoreoverclocking

▶ Play video

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but that's more about motherboard.

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anyways

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I'll watch both

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 1:23 PM

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watch a bunch of those rambles and you'll be knowledgeable enough to be an expert xD

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Again, I'm gonna suggest 1.25x speed

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here's another that might be helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFXVhsK1ok

YouTube

Actually Hardcore Overclocking

Rambling about memory ranks

AHOC Patreon/Shirts/Junkyard:http://cxzoid.blogspot.co.uk/p/support-fail.html
The Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/buildzoid
The Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/actuallyhardcoreoverclocking

▶ Play video

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Haha will do. I have some free time at work =P

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Thank you for your help

frozen linden Nov 12, 2020, 2:31 PM

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R5 3600 or R7 3700X

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For streaming and gaming

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?

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 2:58 PM

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5600x

toxic sand Nov 12, 2020, 3:13 PM

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does anyone know if these would be compatible ive checked the compatiblity list and it clearly state that its not covering all ram my motherboard Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H Intel Socket 1151 Usb3.0 Sata3 Ddr4 Micro Atx Motherb GA-H110M-S2H
the ram i want to upgrade to G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15D-16GTZR

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:17 PM

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which is better the 10700k or the 9900k

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because they are the same price at microcenter and it fits into my friends pc budget

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@rugged sierra about equal

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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oh

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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if ur trying to lean towards saving money, get 990k

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because the mobo will be cheaper

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i mean it is a ten dollar difference

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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honestly don't get either

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wait

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what's the prices

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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well yeah

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300

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ew

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no

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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for either

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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get a ryzen 5600x

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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but there is the 20 dollar discount

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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it outperforms both of them at gaming, get a ryzen 5600x

patent jewel Nov 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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^ this

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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yeah but that is not in stock

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@rugged sierra wait a couple days

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honestly smh

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just wait a few days, it's got less demand than 3000 series cards

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i guess but i mean it might be in stock in person

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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no

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it's gonna be online obvi

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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nah microcenter is a great place

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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bruhh

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chill out

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just buy it whereever it's in stock

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i saw a 3080 in stock for about 2 days

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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mm yes but that's in person :)

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don't buy ONLY from a single source

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buy wherever has best pricing and policies

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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yes but there is good deals from microcenter and cpus are generally cheaper there

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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not really

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those prices are the same on amazon rn

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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plus 20 dollar discount when bundle with mobo

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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and wegg too

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plus 20 dollar discount when bundle with mobo
@rugged sierra that's on newegg and b&h as well

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microcenter isn't anythign special

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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oh

neat glacier Nov 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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newegg actually does more

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newegg usually does 30-60$ discount if u bundle a mobo

rugged sierra Nov 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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oh

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thank you

worn condor Nov 12, 2020, 5:36 PM

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can anyone tell me what memory sticks (ram) will work in a
HP 22-dd0016 All-in-One Desktop PC it has 4gb of memory but i would like to upgrade it to 16

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I contacted newegg chat but she said to ask on her that she was afraid to give the wrong one.

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Pulled from HP's support page for the 22-dd0016:

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@worn condor so you'll be looking for "laptop" sodimm modules like these
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820233961

worn condor Nov 12, 2020, 5:46 PM

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oh ok when it said laptop it though me off since it is a all in one pc

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threw

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thank you

visual steeple Nov 12, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I ordered the ASUS ROG Strix GL10DH-NH764 from Newegg and want to upgrade memory to 32 GB. It only has 2 slots and the specs state 32 GB max. I'm not a gamer and probably will never overclock. I'm a software engineer and sometimes need VM`s and also do some video work. The machine will also be running several servers. I don't know squat about memory. Can I use DDR4 3600 in this machine? Is that overkill? Will I even be able to tell the difference between 2666 and 3200 memory? I don't mind spending up to $150 for 32 GB but I'm not rich and stupid either. I just want some future proofing. I want the machine to last about 5 years without needing upgrading.

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Thank you.

cyan night Nov 12, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@visual steeple yea you will be able to tell the difference. The latency matters too

visual steeple Nov 12, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Any recommendations?

cyan night Nov 12, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ah man i just looked up ur pc

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and im not really sure what mobo that is and if can OC to 3200

visual steeple Nov 12, 2020, 6:27 PM

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It says Chipset: AMD B450.

cyan night Nov 12, 2020, 6:27 PM

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hm then id say it can probably do it

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lets assume it can

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32gb 3200mhz cl14

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and also

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id look into what kind of psu they put in your machine. Pre-builts just tend to be unreliable when it comes to build quality. Just by looking at it the mobo and ram look fairly bare @visual steeple

visual steeple Nov 12, 2020, 6:32 PM

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It's definitely a weird build. The CPU and GPU sold me on it though. Since I'm not a gamer I decided to take a chance on it. I think the PSU is 500.

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You said 32gb 3200mhz cl14. I searched newegg and came up with a bunch, some expensive. I don't care about LED`s or color, just performance.

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Earlier I found this: Crucial Ballistix 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Desktop Gaming Memory (Black) $149.99
BL2K16G36C16U4B
Configuration ID: CT16856765
DDR4 PC4-28800 • 16-18-18 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR4-3600 • 1.35V • 2048Meg x 64 •

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Would that be a good choice?

grand grove Nov 12, 2020, 6:42 PM

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T_T amazon played with me just now... said that 5600x's were in stoc dec 1 and i could click on add to cart both on webpage and mobile app but nothing gets added except the warranty

cyan night Nov 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@visual steeple that one is good

visual steeple Nov 12, 2020, 6:50 PM

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OK, I'll try that one. Thanks for the help.

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@hollow thorn why did u allow me to climb into this rabbit hole 😢

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😭

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@dire bluff I'm sorry man, rabbit holes look fun :(

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Thanks a ton. I'm a little more confused now than before but feel alot better knowing more

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Is there a reason this is marked as intel and there's a version that's tagged with amd ryzen ready?

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Gotta see both links to see if there's absolutely no difference between the two rams

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 7:47 PM

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One sec

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236552?Item=N82E16820236552&Tpk=20-236-552&utm_medium=BehEmail&utm_source=EMCCP-111220-Corsair&cm_mmc=EMCCP-111220-Corsair-_-CorsairDedicated-_-E0A-_-20236552&email64=c29jY2VycmdjQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==&tp=i-1NGB-Q7F-3V4-3qyzM5-2D-21NJe-1c-3qyJXe-l5KnkkRD91-i40CX&om_rid=29880630&om_mid=13458

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236551?Description=corsaid vengence pro rgb&cm_re=corsaid_vengence pro rgb-_-20-236-551-_-Product

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other annoyance is it says the code isnt valid on my account

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Well to start they are different models

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i saw that but they otherwise appear to be the same timing and everything else which is where im confused on why one is marked as intel xmp and the other for ryzen

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@vast granite It's not being tagged as Intel, it's just that it supports XMP profiles, which is an intel invention

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And "AMD Ryzen ready" and stuff is all marketing

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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okay that makes sense but otherwise then no real discernable difference unless im being dense

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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ram is ram

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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guess now i gotta contact the support from newegg and ask why the promo dont work

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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look at specs

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rip

vast granite Nov 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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code doesnt work because its for certain user groups cmon

naive pendant Nov 12, 2020, 9:47 PM

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would it be worth it to upgrade from an i5-9400f to an i7-9700k?

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 9:55 PM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/618863/crucial-ballistix-max-rgb-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr4-4000-pc4-32000-cl18-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-blm2k16g40c18u4bl---black
Is this ram over kill for 5950x? And would it even be worth running 4?

Micro Center

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frigid anchor Nov 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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best for ryzen 5000 is "4000mhz"

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so you can imagine that those would be fine

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but like 425 for ram?

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906?Description=32gb ram 3600&cm_re=32gb_ram 3600-_-20-232-906-_-Product&quicklink=true

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or

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374036

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400mhz for 300

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And a better cas latency as well

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I'll accept all advice. My brain in burned out atm from information overload today

frigid anchor Nov 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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My advice is dont spend 500$ dollars on ram

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Budget a good amount but like 200$ would be somewhere I would stay

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Unless youve got money to burn

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then just get a good motherboard and some insane ram

dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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A little to burn. Just trying to pair something with my 5950x. And after watching "actually hard-core overclicking" youtube channel I can't think properly lol

frigid anchor Nov 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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you dont need to overclock with ryzen chips really

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dire bluff Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I was watching it to better understand ranks and channels then it turned into how different motherboards utilize memory differently

frigid anchor Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Oh ok yeah