#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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do i need to do a bios for this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Kjgt8
check asus' website of the b450 f can flash the bios without an older cpu
ok
Since I had to ordered a 3600 I guess I can just do it the normal way now lol
True you just gonna return it afterwards
The 3600?
Or I saw someone mention something about a loaner system
No, since I don't know how long the 5900 will take to get here I just need something in that system.
Fair enough
Once the 5900 is here I'll buy an ITX board for it and replace the guts of my home "server"
Nice plan
Right now it has an awful little intel chip in it
a 3600 will be like an x5 increase.
I might throw a GPU in there too and turn it into an emulation box for my TV
I feel that I need to check what my performance would increase from my laptop to the 5600 I ordered
5900 is not on passmark yet so I don't know about current PC to that.
but like, for reference.
let me check if its on a site a friend recommended
even from my current PC to the 3600 it's going from 9767 CPU Mark to 17859....
ima send you a link
the i7-5820K did NOT age well.
i7s before 8th gen didn’t age well
So basically I need to buy an old amd chip so I can update my bios so I can use the 5900x in the board?
@silent sandal amd will loan you one for free
Amd has a loan program
Prime x570 pro
Doesn't that have flashback?
we need to get Fs for intel
@topaz reef have any 5900X blender scores? wanted to go 5950X but too costly..
I want Maya scores!
does anyone know a good amd mobo under 120 that supports the 3600 out of the box?
A lot
But I doubt we'll see those for a bit 😦
@viral nebula I havnt seen them but it should be between the 10900k and 5950x
thanks
@candid vale not sure about out of the box but majority of MSI boards can be updated without having a placeholder cpu
My mobo doesn’t have the flashback thingy
I was looking at selling my old 3570k and I found one on ebay that sold for $150 
is this money laundering
5600Xs are out of stock everywhere
are they even listed on amazon? I don't see em
for memory, most people recommend G.Skill Aegis
Ya sadly i wasnt able to secure myself one
microcenter if you can
yes the 5600X is on Amazon but it's hidden because it's out of stock
I found an Amazon link in an article and it said out of stock
phsyically is prob only way to get anything cpus/ gpus tbh
yeah that's the link
bots are becoming such a problem that they're making brick and mortar relevant again
if only Fry's held out a little longer
will it restock soon
@agile swift says it will on 15th
thanks
@agile swift time will tell on that one
I'm pretty sure CPUs restock faster than GPUs
please dont trust that the ETA on vendor sites are absolute values
don't really know if it will tho and it will get sold out just like this one
westmont one is sold out there was 10plus each 5600 and 5900
technically it does not matter what product it is @agile swift
5950x as well
I an increasingly glad I placed that order at B&H
general patience is the order of the day
Reason: Bad word usage
oop
Yes I did, and they closed orders now, so, very glad I got in there at all
if i wanted to upgrade id have gone this morning lol
yeah i got it as well last night
im good on 9900k right now
does yours say backordered?
Yes
mine says backordered
considering the numbers, its not really a wonder the inventory is taking a hit
Which is fine. At least I know I'll get one before the end of time.
yea, I backordered the first batch at a B&M
That's where I get my 3080 alerts
My 5900x from b&h says backorder
I'll go wait overnight for the 6800XT
I've almost gotten a 3080 like 3 times now.
It's killing a small part of my soul each time
youll prob need to be there 11pm or 12am
3080 seems like a bad value rn
I'll go wait overnight for the 6800XT
@viral nebula 6800 or 6800XT?
or longer
im getting a 6800xt
for amd gpu
I am thinking to just get 6800
i wouldnt be suprized ppl camping like they did with nvidia
@viral nebula 6800 or 6800XT?
@near crow XT
Which one is best bang on the buck?
6800XT is the better choice since it's cheaper than it's competitor (3080)
I am comparing 3070 vs 6800
I just read that the 5000 series is not compatible with the B550 board until the BIOS update comes?
XT is not much more expensive than the non-XT one and it's much more performant
I just read that the 5000 series is not compatible with the B550 board until the BIOS update comes?
@stark laurel no, that's for B450
ok
I just checked kijiji and i already saw a scalper trying to sell for 700$
oof
Guys, Zen 3 is not going to be compatible with any board sans bios update for months.
Also AMD did a good job marketing buying both AMD CPUs, and GPUS, with their addition of smart access memory
Any stock that currently exists of any board will be unpatched
only boards getting printed in the last week or two will have support
@tough wyvern wrong
^
Gigabyte did not have Zen 3 drivers until like, 2 weeks ago for x570s when I looked
B550 will work if the bios currently has an AGESA minimum version of 1.0.8.0
i got the x570
sounds like they made it in time for launch
I got the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus? Am I good?
most B550 and X570 should have that
it was made a LONG time ago
yes looks like ppl trying to sell 5600 for $450
that's.... 2 months....
that's a loss
n they got it at microcenter only way in hand
It won’t work?
when did 2 months become "a long time" ?
i ordered my x570 on the 14th of october
@gritty meadow you have to ch eck your current BIOS version
@tough wyvern that was an update that was launched 2+ months ago
and that was just a random board i looked up
And how many boards do you think have been printed in the last 60 days?
if I get my mobo in the mail and it doesn't have the latest bios flashed am I screwed? lol
if you get a good board and its a new build some have usb bios update
And are in stock at the moment at Amazon and Newegg?
sick
vs old stock older then that?
a lot @tough wyvern. you are aware of FIFO right?
vendors dont keep a gazillion boards in stock if they can avoid it
unless your chasing numbers, dont upgrade if your going same core count, id say if you jump count then yea sure worth an upgrade
Will my motherboard be compatible with a 5000 series. I have a MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus.
yes
Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.
second update on that page
its not that hard to figure this stuff out
AMD did a really good job with making all the ones that work with zen 2 work for zen 3
is the time when you board has had support since
@graceful elm only IF people updated their AGESA
yes
I ordered the MSI X570 Tomahawk, seems like the best choice
@fallen lynx this is my first PC. Which one of those BIOS updates should I flash onto my motherboard
whatever the newest is
the most up to date
then grab yourself a beer and celebrate lots of money spent once u get one lol
I've never been one to shell out for a mobo lol, whatever has the features I need at the lowest price point is what I'll go for
or capri sun if your not old enough
@tight sparrow beef and capri sun are NOT the same kind of mass mate :)
beef
i fixed it, i have the gaming keys on my corsair keyboard so i nudged it
well i guess in error, if its a beer roast than it can
i wish you all the luck in trying to drink that too :)
lol
Did the 3600x price drop?
the 3600 (non x) went to 190 today.
I know the 3600 went under 200 which is where it was, so did 3600x drop too?
Oh sweet
5600x is better than the 10600k in most things. the 5600x also costs more
10600k is like 270
5600x is better than the 10600k in most things. the 5600x also costs more
@main pulsar hey sassy. I stripped a screw trying to remove the cpu cooler bracket on my mobo and was crying 30 min into my 1st build lol
isnt the 10600k cheaper though
damn
didnt read all of your post @main pulsar lol
did you strip the threading or the head?
surely the head
The head. It’s like totally blown out now. I even scratched the mobo when the screwdriver slipped
I’m really sad because i had a 3600 that apparently comes with a stock cooler you need to remove the brackets for....
like, the whole head came off?
just use plyers to screw it down we've all been there
It needs to come out
get the smallest drill you have
I’m on my way to micro center now honestly to try and return or recycle it. the mobos scratched now isn’t that a problem
actually, i doubt you would have one small enough nvm
how did you manage that
send pic of the scratch
Yeah Idk it sounds like a project someone else I mentioned it to suggested that
Trying to unscrew a screw screwed in my the hulk
also, sometimes you can get a small flathead screwdriver in the stripped head
you have to scratch VERY deep for it to matter
So 3600 3600x 3600xt, is 3600 still the best worth?
dang
I was over my mobo for hours gradually breaking down as it slowly got more and more stripped
@spring scarab lesson for the future. Have screwdrivers that are not busted on the heads
did you try grabbing the top of the head with needle nose plyers
im pretty sure its recessed
No it’s recessed yeah
the screw
oh thats not good
@spring scarab show a picture please
so i'm starting to buy the parts for my first pc build, i just bought the 5600x. What motherboard should i pair it with? x570? B450?
b550
i think i have fixed about 500+ boards like that in the last 10 years
Image I took mostly of the screw not sure how well scratch shows. It’s packed up in my backpack
thats a drill out situation
that is still fixable
hows stock lookin on zen 3 oos everywhere i assume?
the scratch does not matter
yeah its sold out
going to want to drill that out from the bottom
@spring scarab could you take a picture of the screwdriver head you started with?
lol as a lesson to everyone?
Not at the moment
@pastel monolith no need for that. tiny drill from the top, hex bit pressed into the drill hole.
BUT
Reason: Bad word usage
same 😦
there is a chance that the techs at the local store have have a "flat" philips head screwdriver/bit that can do the trick as the screw is right now
because there IS a tiny bit of thread left at the bottom
@spring scarab however. PLEASE dont try and fix that yourself
Yeah I can’t do that lol
also a dremel and a flat head could take care of it
I can barely pick up a mobo without breaking it seemingly
aye aye Nilboggen
I’m returning my cpu ssd and som e other stuff probably
Giving up awhile
Don’t need to spend hundreds to cry and be stressed lol
Can do it for free
lol well it is only a screw
It’s an impenetrable barrier without professional help at this point
And represents a potential 200 dollar loss
Along with time and stress
I spent hours on this rather than enjoying building the rest
think about how many stripped screws the wright brothers went through before they were the first men to fly
Wasted an entire day collecting pc parts for a build
Yeah
True dat
No pain no gain
But also I can’t afford another mobo
the mobo is fine
@spring scarab the following will not feel like a comfort. However. it is on you for not stopping at the first "skip" of the screwdriver.
and as i said, the scratch is NOT a problem
the only loss is going to be that screw
aye
that screw is done
well it looks like your gonna put a new cooler on it
@spring scarab the following will not feel like a comfort. However. it is on you for not stopping at the first "skip" of the screwdriver.
@gritty meadow I agree I should’ve been more careful but also that screw was different then the other 3
easy 5600x purchase today. In the UK so bought from scan electronics, they are even sending free thermal paste (2g of Arctic MX-4) and a free face mask/ covering
I’m worried after moving it around and repacking it I might’ve plucked a pin or two by getting them snagged on my shirt, this mobo just feels like a really sketchy thing to me now
yeah you could just grab a cheap cooler that uses the brackets and leave them there
I’m also literally on a 2 hour journey to return it already
@spring scarab if you had come into any shop i have worked in, i would have fixed that for you for free. Simply because it looks like a "comedy of bad luck and statistics"
well from the top you can put a small drill hole and they have backup drillbits you could use to get it out too
@tight sparrow all of which was said earlier :)
ah ok
ooooorr if you get the access off and pull the mount bracket then u got full play at gripping it
So even with 3600x at $200 and the 3600 at $190, the increased speeds isn’t worth the extra $10?
if your pushing numbers sure, i dont think worth it otherwise
3600 also has a cooler
yea but ive known ppl with and they say it runs quite hott still
noctua all the way, n that sucker will be silent lol
I wish they’d either include one worth a damn or just not
I would’ve bought a normal one
it is worth a damn.
lol tbh it is
if you are content w/ it, no headroom though
not the context of the comment @tight sparrow
it is also FREE
If you don't have another it's better than nothing
So like me I have nothing so not having to spend money right away to cool my cpu is nice
of course
It’d be nice if they pick a lane on their brackets design
And having to uninstall things added for convenience for other products is just a hassle
trust me: i think their take is this: It would be nice if the users actually used proper screwdrivers :P
I know amd doesn’t make the boards but there’s gotta be coordination
Dude
The other 3 screws were fine
the small cooler variant is that size and design because of Z-height
The ficking hulk screwed in the 4th
smile and enjoy yourself. and take a look at the smiley at the end.
my buddy got a 5950x from bestbuy this morning (online order)
So naed and nilbo, 3600 over 3600x?
nothing else you can do right now @spring scarab, as you said yourself. You are on the way to exchange it
yeah but $10 is only $10
lol sorry
if you want to get pissed that we dont scream doom and gloom over a user error. I am sorry, but that is your choice.
For Everyone Who Ordered On B&H, They Are Expected To Get Their Stock On 11/19/2020. They Said We Should Get An Email When They Do.
seems like newegg re stocked
Aye that means amazon should be here before that so I can cancel b&h
Or rather to be passive aggressive
The 3600 cooler works right?
yes, i can see how telling you how to solve it, and telling you that the result of your actions are salvageable is a "passive aggressive" action.
I think Naed and Nilboggen told you everything you needed to know
@silent sandal yes it does
Okay sweet
Anyone able to order any Ryzen 5000 CPU?
So was i
see^
@silent sandal the only thing to keep in mind for the stock coolers is this: IF you want something quiet. those coolers are NOT it.
aside from that, they work just fine.
That’s fine
Yeah, from what i've seen, as long as you're not overclocking then you should be perfectly fine @silent sandal
Magic
overclocking is is really pretty safe these days.
almost have to go out of your way to cause damage.
please dont underestimate users
Yeah I’d probably break it
same
idk if I am overclocking mine
I will prob increase power limit
order status inelidgeable to cancel
what
that newegg?
yep
9am est
B&H has been up since last evening
yeah i was one of the people who got your link
Oh? where is that info from?
that's not bad actually
B&H Live Chat
no i asked them myself
Did they say how long they think it will take to fill orders?
I assume 19th is just their next shipment
Nope, but we shouldn't get it too long afterwards
they probably will have enough for most pre orders
Oh well, I don't need money anyway, I'll just keep the 3600 I also bought (cries)
I am using a 6 core i7 on a laptop 3 year old laptop w broken screen
didnt you cacel that?
Me?
I canceled the one I had on amazon when I got the 5800 preorder, when I caught on it might take awhile to get it, I put in a new order for a 3600 at Newegg that was $10 cheaper today, and also no tax.
Kind of. I'll move it to a different computer after that fact.
Are the 3600 and 3600x different coolers?
dont think so
Okay
Ping me if different
the 3600 is lower power I think, so that makes sense.
the 3600x has darkeer text
oh noooooooo
Thanks
Just read for everyone who bought off newegg they won't be getting Far Cry 6?
No idea, the only place I even saw that offer was bestbuy
Don't know if my B&H one comes with it or not. Might have to read the terms on that promotion on AMD to see if it even qualifies.
Is far cry 6 such a big deal
meh
I bought it for the CPU not the game lol
No, but it's an added bonus for some people.
but ya know, free game, might as well ya know?
Any MBD suggestions for the 5950x ?
msi b550-a plus or MAG tomohawk
Thx u
any one manage to get a 5k chip?
I was on at 9:15... gone..
Yeah I got one, stock for ryzen 9 lasted like 20 seconds
It was gone by 9:05
The 5600x lasted a few min
hopefully they restock soon
And i still didnt get it lol
any news on restock from newegg or amd?
I had it in my cart and and was putzing around gettinng my mobo.. and some extras.. and poof
Any thoughts on a Mortar b550? thats where im settling..
lesson learned..
I got a 5950x on Newegg
I didnt even have time to see stock
5950x was too rich for my blood
im getting a 5600x
5900x where its at
Reason: Bad word usage
Smh
Everything is
no hell no.. im not paying more than 299..
Same
dont give in to the scalpers..
I hope it’s not another case of 3080 stock issues
it seems it'll be worse than 3080
check your local retailer instore. sometimes they get a few. i went this morning and they had a few that were not being sold online
Someone in my country, Singapore, just sold 5900x for almost usd999 which is about sgd1350. I wonder who's the idiot to get it overpriced lol
any one manage to get a 5k chip?
@jaunty sonnet I did
I purchased a 5600x from newegg at 9:35 this morning
As I have said for the GPUs, microcenter mightbe your best bet
microcenter out of stock online..
Im going to stick with Newegg, hopefully they get it back in some time this month.
I’m guessing getting a AMD gpu is gone be impossible
This is my first, im moving form intel to this.. im runing a I7-6700k right now , so... lets see.
I'm running the non k, i7-6700 😩
@cinder sphinx there are 5950x on ebay that sold for almost double that
I am hoping enough people buy Radeons that it makes 3080s a little easier to get.
I am going from an i5-5200 / gt1060 to r5 5600x / rx6800xt (hopefully). Super stoked
having two options should take a little stress of team green's stock
microcenter out of stock online..
@jaunty sonnet go in person if you can
in florida...😪
team green and red both need memory and silicon. they both buy from the same suppliers. theres only so much to go around. gonna be tight
they will already have their allotments though by this point. Neither can suddenly make more, but with both on the market, it should spread the load a bit in terms of orders
i hope youre right. i guess time will tell!
I dont think it will fix it by any means lol
But like, I'll take 1% better over no change at all.
@trail rover wrong. they dont buy from the same place.
I thought there was a little overlap? not much but some
oh alright, thanks for correction
samsung for nvidia (for the consumer chips at the moment)
TSMC for nvidia server GPU's
meaning, not relevant for the consumers at all
TSMC for AMD for consumer chips
the upcoming finance call from nvidia will shed some light on where the bottleneck is currently. IF its samsung or if its nvidia
either way, someone is lacking
If it's Samsung I am going to smash my S9+ (no i wont)
its probably samsung I love them but they have their fingers in a lot of pies
time will tell
what does nvidia even produce tho
they make an idea
I mean how could they be the limiting factor of producting
you are misunderstanding that sentence of mine @late pine
choice
and underestimating things
their design not scaling as well as they wanted/dreamed
even if they know demand exceed supply doesn't mean they shouldn't release it
at least some people have them instead of none
you cannot "just" make more.
it takes a silly long time to actually release a chip
Or like say I make cars I only want to make as many cars as I can sell not have a bunch of cars sitting not selling
and i am talking about the actual production here
not the design phase, because that is multiple times longer ofc :)
I'm saying I don't know what you mean by the bottleneck being nvidia
IF nvidia didnt order enough chips
no as many as they thought they could sell....
they knew they would sell a lot
OR if nvidia made a design that is "wishfull" thinking in relation to what is actually possible to make on the node that samsung has
its not about money @late pine
its about capacity and production times
can a msi B450m pro-vdh handle the new ryzen cpus? at me
@naive pendant we wont know until some point in january 2021
yeah nvidia probably wanted more capacity for launch but the yeilds were too bad
that is just pure speculation.
so as i said, the finance call will give some info on it
also, there is that little "detail" of nvidia pushing their chips WAY beyond sane levels of voltage to hit their desired clock speeds
@naive pendant we wont know until some point in january 2021
@gritty meadow is that motherboard still worth getting or do i wait?
so ... "something" is off there
@naive pendant if you are buying new? get a b550 board
it is "good"
"good"?
anyone who ordered from newegg get far cry 6 coupon code
well it depends if you need the extra features or not
wdym by that
man, looking at these benchmarks, I almost wish I got a 5950X
a x570 will have more bells and whistles than a B550 like for instance better overclocking, 2 x 16x pcei slots, etc
Anyone know when will 5950x stocks get back up in newegg
couple years
They just posted on their insta story that they dont know yet
What about the asus dark hero mobo. Any news about that will when it go up?
@gritty meadow could i dm you what i have picked out so far and get your opions?
@naive pendant do you have a pcpartpicker list?
x570 will have one x16 , the second x16 (physical) slot will be x8 electrical
@naive pendant do you have a pcpartpicker list?
@gritty meadow i can make one
@naive pendant that would be appreciated for talking about parts :)
lol what
Wuuuuut
2 things:
Actual source instead of that please.
and what do you think those numbers tell you ?
;-;
@late pine i dont frequent Reddit of my own free will.
yes, thats the reddit source. but where is the actual source?
fx, if i wanted to link to the source of the public GPU numbers we know of: https://www.proshop.de/RTX-30series-overview <- that would be the link
another reason to ask for a source is that its so very easy to post on reddit without actual sources to back it up
did anyone on newegg get a 5000 cpu? I checked out and payment went out but no email or order in order history
buddy confirmed his on bestbuy havent heard from anyone on newegg
only Siths deal in absolutes
@hardy otter have a chat with @glad socket
Newegg gave me a tracking number
now i have
@hardy otter yes, and remember, despite the name, its a person :) But have some patience when you talk with them., they are normally quite busy.
best of luck :)
thanks
Newegg just sent me an email saying that I left an r5 3600 and a i9 9900k in my cart...
My cart is empty, nor did I even view those 2 products lol
G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL19 Memory - This good RAM pairing with a 5600x and MSI B550 A-PRO?
sure does
(we really mean by if the IF can hold up at 1:1)
Haven't see actual testing on it yet, but I'll come back if I see anything solid on specifics
(ram freq benefits for new chips)
is the speed or the cas more important?
3200 cas 16 iis pretty equal to 3600 cas 18
We'd have to see, for Ryzen, how it worked for Zen 2 was you get the most performance by getting the IF to the highest freq you can, matching that with your ram on 1:1 mode, and then tightening timings.
not sure how cpus will benefit differently
Timings usually matter a bit less.
I have 3600 cl16 which feels like a good middle point
Plus 4000 is just too expensive right now
It’ll probably get cheaper in a bit, but as of right now it’s a bit too high
I tried learning about timings twice. Every time I knew even less about timings than when I had gone in.
Lol
Computers are so complicated, I just try to at least not be an idiot with them, and rely on others help
It's like "tCL tCD tRC" simple enough
And then you walk in a bit more
And there's 20 more timings
Yes and one can be off and cause performance penalties to the others
Question, what happens to a SHARED PCIe Gen4.0 slot like the main graphics slot that is shared with the second one, if i have Gen 4.0 graphics card in it, but in the shared slot i have gen 3.0 card [capture card], does it clock down the graphics card to gen 3.0 too?
i think 3800Mhz RAM is the highest that makes sense for AMD, since it seems infinity fabric can't go any higher than 1900
Like GDM let's you do 1t at higher freq, but require I think tRCWR to be even
@arctic ravine what mobo, and why are you using a capture card with a PCIe 4.0 gpu..?
Capture card is for consoles
Mobo in theory MSI Godlike, x570, its the only one that suits my needs
I think it splits the lanes 8x/8x instead of 16x
I have GPU 3090 + Optane x4 + Capture card x4 + 10G card x4, so only Godlike has 4 slots
It splits x8/x4/x4 + x4 [chipset]
Did you aggregate you four links?
What i want to know if my 3090 wont be downclocked to x8 Gen 3.0 due to all otehr devices being gen 3.0
Everything should be on gen 4
ok
X570 has gen 4 chipset lanes
Yeah, but when you plug Gen 3.0 device it runs in gen 3.0 mode
Unless you have ALL pcie 4.0 devices
im not sure that is true
Mobile really isn't making this easy sadly
Unless you have ALL pcie 4.0 devices
@modest ice yep, that what i want to be sure 100%, if it goes to gen 3.0 due to shared bus it wont work
Oh well
If you want to be sure 100% you're probably going to want to field test it
So fige out the effect of 8x 3.0 on your 3090 is
And see if you can replicate it
With the other devices
Im on Zenith II + 3960x, im considering to get godlike + 5950x, and need my parts to work
So buying just to test is imposible
Open a ticket with MSI? thats a good idea
For when god like just isn't cutting it
Hezoo Kristo
What about Jesus?
dat hardware
Sounds like overkill
For my purposes it is
I'm trying to get a 5900x so I can play games and run TC2000 and my brokerage platforms on other screens
It can be argued that a 5900X is overkill for that
True
It's not about what I need, it's about what I want
I filled all the slots, so i have use for it, i wish it had more PCIe slots thou, just x4 instead of x8 like it has now, say two x4 instead of one x8
Im afraid that getting next TR will be even MORE expesnive then the one I have, and getting godlike + 5950x will be Cheaper then new 24 core TR and when i sell my old parts it will be "free"
But I don't want hHIS hardware because I wouldn't know what to do with it
What do you do with all that hardware?
Yeah you may want to wait for a threadripper
What do you do with all that hardware?
@silent sandal Browse the web most of the day + play games, rarely, watch movies
Guys, its a hobby, im 40, people of my age polish cars all day, i prefer to build PC's
I uh...
You should stream or something. Video edit, or graphic design
Should do hwbot with the Newegg ppl
And contribute to f@h maybe
There's also other computation-performance-pooling outlets, if not mining
Heh
Or just have fun with it, why not.
Nein, these cycles are mine!
You should stream or something. Video edit, or graphic design
@silent sandal im planning on streaming, have everything ready i need to prepare the room and its the hardest, we live in apartment building, im not from USA, so you know how it is, rooms are not to spare
Need to renovate my bedroom
Same
Nonsense, you just need a green bedsheet and a couple nails
But until then, no camera
Then you can renovate your room by clicking a few buttons
I want to make it nice, also for my own use, you know, "Fun room"
Today, my bedroom is the statue of liberty!
I'm losing track of objective reality again. Time to go play video games
idk if this is the right channel to discuss this but does anyone know when the next stock of zen 3 cpus will be available? or an estimate at least
if you're just throwing money away, i'll gladly take some
#e-begging
@naive scroll no one knows that. sorry
idk if this is the right channel to discuss this but does anyone know when the next stock of zen 3 cpus will be available? or an estimate at least
@naive scroll 15th of November on amazon
how long did it take for the ryzen 9 5900x to sell out?
Reason: Bad word usage
dunno what bad word usage i had
it took a bit, longer than nvidia cards I'd say
seconds
i would've got one but newegg had issues with mybaddress
like 20-30 sec
my address*
the strat is to buy something cheap to make sure everything is working
like I purchased thermal paste and it had me re-enter to verify my credit card
then when I got the cpu, no hitches
well the thing is my friend had the same issue and he did buy stuff earlier so idk
by earlier I mean literally like 30 min before launch
probably an issue for non americans
5600x seemed to last a while, but the others were mere seconds.
yeah lots of 5600 stock
they did announce thay the 5900-5950 had lower stock
5800x was gone in seconds too
The 5950x became available twice. Both time gone in seconds. I was able to get it the 2nd round
same with 5900 but saw the notification too late sadly
I was able to like
oh well, no rush i was hoping to upgrade my i7-4770k faster but it cqn wait couple of weeks
run downstairs 2 flights of stairs, find a credit card, put in the info, and still get a 5600x
so like
if you were too slow
im sorry
5600x lasted a long time
5600x had good stock
no. like more than a half hour
well yeah, that's pretty good for a wanted part
I wonder when the next restock is
also, give it a week and see what stock is like at that point
Lmao
well, you can
anyone that buy scalper trash are silliness incarnate
People are rediculous, if you pay a scalper atleast for the CPUs you kinda deserve to waste your money
Lol if only I was greedy enough to keep the amazon and b&h pre-order and flip one of them
I was so temped to flip my zotac gpu cause its not my fav
but judging by how microcenter took down half their listings im going to keep it
What’s a good b550 board for a 3600/3600x? Would need to get WiFi with it in some way cause Ethernet can’t happen
Zotac 3070 or 3080?
What’s a good b550 board for a 3600/3600x? Would need to get WiFi with it in some way cause Ethernet can’t happen
@silent sandal MSI b550-a pro or MAG tomohawk
Zotac 3070 or 3080?
@silent sandal 3070 OC
Oof
sorry for double ping didnt realize i was responding to you twice
what is a good motherboard (x570) for the ryzen 9 5900x?
what's the best motherboard at around 200
@silent sandal MSI b550-a pro or MAG tomohawk
Those are kinda pricey boards
for a 5800x
It’s $140
HOw much do you want to spend?
No more than $120, preferably about $100
if you are going rx 6xxx with that 5800x you'll want a x570 mobo
b550 is still fine
@worn granite source for that claim?
the rx 6xxx doesn't get it's SAM benefit with ryzen 5xxx unless it's on a x500 mobo
is the ASUS ROG Strix X570-F any good?
@worn granite which does not explain your x570 claim
Where's the basis for that claim?
Lol what
I mean anything that fits in the case would do. It’s just an ATX case
well assuming you don't want to leave that performance on the table
B550 and x570 work
I'm picky with my bands lol, one sec
will work, but you won't get the SAM bonus performance on B550
again, source?
AMD is the source
But amd said any 500 mobo
If you have it, please link it.
T R U E R S
Scroll down here, and it says any 500 motherboard.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smart-access-memory
yeah the x500 mobos B550 isn't
did anyone here manage to get zen3 ??
...
Literally says 500 series mobo, that includes b550 and x570
zen3 right here

These are all the mobos in your price range, I would recommend getting an MSI or asus mobo
Hm
maybe i misunderstood, but there was an AMD video that said x570, then there was later something released to clarify that said x500
I don't really trust asrock
Asrock is just fine :P
Just not my preference lol
trying to find it now
Any particular one from that list Mr1111?
Need wifi or no
Wifi
B550 pro4 if you don't
So the MSI one?
Thats probably your best bet
yea
Alright. Thanks guys
Amd finally beat intel in gaming R5 5600x beat I9 10900K
the 5600x beat it
I just saw that, Is it confirmed, I saw it as leaked benchmarks
is that the best intel cpu atm
I think so, I'm not too familiar with intel but I think so
I mean there is more than just gaming
I mean Ryzen outdoes intel when it comes to productivity
Mhm
@late pine the point is, through all of GN's benchmarks for the 5900x, Intel only won like two
ye
yeah i misunderstood the mobo thing. and apparently i wasn't the only one. articles i know said x570 explicitly before have been edited to say 500 series.
I was mostly referring to the 5600x vs 10900k comparison
10900k is much more expensive but it is still a better cpu overall
@late pine huh?
hm?
nm I just misread someone's message lol
..
here is one still saying x570. unsure if they haven't updated it yet or if AMD is putting out mixed messages. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/10/28/could-amds-smart-access-memory-be-the-secret-sauce-of-big-navi/
considering the amount of times that RPS has just been flat out wrong with hardware news over the years ... i would not worry about that one
@late pine its not a better cpu overall thats for sure but it does have better single clock speeds
10900k loses in single core performance
i just posted that as an example. the other sources i saw the same kind of statements have been edited to say 500 series
not what he said @late pine
it is only better than 5600x for multi threaded
all I said was speeds not performance
clock speed is not really relevant
he is not saying it is either.
nope its not for 99% of things
Yeah what is it for?
I hear it’s mostly irrelevant, but there must be a reason it’s showed so much
I think a 3090 will pull about 1-5 more fps with the higher clock speeds
it's shown for marketing, it's only a relevant comparison between cpu's using the same archetecture
that is very true
I hope nvidia adds more vram to their gpu lineup
I'd like to see a 3080ti with more vram
yes
I feel like 16gb would be a good number
Yes but it might take too long to come out, and I’d have to get a regular 3080
Or buy some cheap card as a placeholder
I just got a 2070 super from evga b stock
waiting for nvidia to release something better
I can resell the 2070 and make most money back
Nice
I’d need to build up a bit more money to do that
Cause I only have enough for the 3080 and an additional $100
my summer internship will pay more than my school year one
the 5900x already stretched my budget to its limits lol
Yeah the fact that I’m gonna just have to grab a 3080 when it’s there annoys me
Cause some have small ocs, and are marked up in prices
6800xt is what i want
So, did amazon ever actually sell the 5900x?
it does say sold out as opposed to still coming or something like that
just says currently unavailable to me, which it has been since before release.
they have been popping up someone linked a canada site a few hours ago that had stock
still in stock
i wish the 5600x came with the rgb cooler since non of the other cpus i think come with any
wouldve been nice but cant complain since it at least comes with one
and its gone lol that one was fast
had 2 in every store and then they were just gone
Oof
ok what a good brand of memory
yes
reasonably priced and well made
@pastel monolith there’s a 700 and 750 version lol
But yeah the one I want the most is the 700 Asus tuf
most memory is made by Micron, SK Hynix, or samsung, regardless of what brand you actually buy, so there isn't much difference overall between brands
Yeah brand doesn’t really matter. Basically just get what you need and what fits your budget
(Basically don’t break the bank cause the rgb looks cool)
If you use a Vemeer CPU with some B550 motherboards, it may mysteriously fail
until you boot the motherboard with an older (compatible) CPU, and update the firmware on the motherboard
if you are buying a new motherboard, its nothing you need to worry about
how much would a P67 mATX board be worth?
I was referred here by newegg sales. I'm looking for a recommendation for an X570 motherboard that will offer excellent performance with a 5950X processor.
what are you using the 5950x for?
also, what kind of storage and grapics card are you considering?
@main pulsar gaming.
i see, what kind of monitor?
@grizzled sand It'll be the new AMD GPU. I'll be using nvme for storage
you mentioned the wrong person lol
sorry about that
I was speeding. lol
G9 is a good one
what games are you looking to play?
specifically the really demanding ones
like cyberpunk?
Honestly I want to be able to play a variety. I think with that hardware I'll be able to play most anything.
ok, just to be clear, the 5950x is not a gaming cpu
For just gaming
Is it really worth 150$ for two more cores on the 5800x vs the 5600x?
personally, the most you should consider would be the 5900x
Which CPU makes more sense?
@fresh plinth it isnt
Oh ok
the 5900x or the 5600x
Depends on if you’re gonna use the cores @fresh plinth
considering you are getting a 1500 dollar monitor, you have the budget for a really good cpu
Well some games are optimized for multi cores and can use them up
so i would suggest investing in the 5900x
the 5950x is too much for anyone, no game needs that many threads
Gotcha. That's good. It'll save me some money to put into something else.
bingo
now about driving that massive monitor
and bragging dont forget bragging
6900xt obviously
I might use the cores, because I run games servers and stuff, but If I get the 5800x that would be an extra $150+ a PSU upgrade, soooo I dont know if its worth it.
Yeah they told me that back when I bought my 2950X. lol
so you are looking at a 5900x + 6900xt. back to the motherboard, because you are only gaming, you have no use for the features that the x570 board offers
so either a b550 or x570 will work fine
just wondering, outside of the monitor, what is your budget?
What extra features does the x570 offer
I have a large budget, but I'm not interested in being wasteful. I rebuild my system every 2 or 3 years.
more usb bandwidth from the chipset, PCIe 4.0 based chipset uplink, meaning more pcie 4.0 lanes from the chipset, a dedicated cooling fan (which is a con, not a pro)
thats about it
Some of the X570 boards have the better passive cooling on the chipset.
So what can you do with the extra stuff. What’s it used for?
just a chipset that does chipset things better
bought a 5900x today, still haven't found any benchmarks for the best RAM speed for the 5000 series
if you are running a ton of usb 3.0 devices, or if you have a ton of pcie 4.0 storage devices
A ton meaning how many?
I figured it'd be good to have the PCIe 4 headroom for the SSD.
no gamer needs the speeds that pcie 4.0 offers
...yet. lol
Ah.
and by then, it will be much cheaper
That's true.
I'm using a 970 Pro right now...
I think they have better gen SSD chips now though
i mean, yeah, but hardly better
im sure you have hardly made a dent in that ssds write endurance
5900x + gigabyte b550 vision d = profit without bios update? Google said so but thought I'd concur with the experts.
What site(s) do you trust for searchable component reviews?
next pc you get will use 4.0 ssds, but for now, the cost isnt worth it to anyone who is only gaming
tomshardware, anandtech, youtube reviewers
Linus (I know, I know) concluded that B550 wasn't a good value. Might as well spring for the X570 for forward upgrading.
guru3d has some
So what does pcie 4 help with if not gaming?
?