cpus-mobo-and-memory

[hollow thorn]

then what

what motherboard exists

that will support that?

[hearty cape]

That’s what I’m asking

[hollow thorn]

Exactly

none

[hearty cape]

Bro

It’s a joke

[hollow thorn]

Bai

[hearty cape]

Smh

I did some math

It would cost at least $17,000 if you were to just buy the 8 gig sticks

From Corsair

[silent sandal]

Should I have gotten noctua instead of drp4?

[hollow thorn]

Meh

[main pulsar]

drp4 pog

[hollow thorn]

Maybe

drp4 still good

I'd prefer D15

[main pulsar]

noctua d15 good obv

[hollow thorn]

but ram clearance kinda bad

it's sad

[silent sandal]

I really like the drp4 so far

[main pulsar]

its black

matches build more

[hollow thorn]

@main pulsar NH-D15s chromax is going to be pog

it's supposed to be Q4 this year

[main pulsar]

[hollow thorn]

that's gonna be really really nice

[main pulsar]

indeed

[hollow thorn]

because It's a D15

without the second fan

so no ram issues

it's just really good

[silent sandal]

Also my drp4 came with instructions in tons of languages including German

Most parts I get don’t have German instructions

[vast granite]

yo d15 chromax sounds lit

[hollow kraken]

u guys like uphere fans?

[main pulsar]

yep

good, cheap

[hollow kraken]

im getting a 3 pack

4 pin vs 3 pin?

[main pulsar]

4 pin is PWM, 3 pin is DC

PWM allows for better fan speed control

so it depends on motherboard, but i would suggest 4 pin if it isnt too much more money

[silent sandal]

I hope it doesn’t break my PSU

[late pine]

pwm is superior

you can buy a cheap controller if you don't have enough ports

or just get a splitter if the fans don't suck too much current

[silent sandal]

Yeah I just don’t think there’s enough room on the PSU to plug everything in

[hollow kraken]

what about daisy chaining?

[silent sandal]

Huh?

[hollow kraken]

daisy chaining fans

[main pulsar]

fans dont daisy chain

[silent sandal]

What’s that

[main pulsar]

the new lian li ones do

but thats different

[hollow kraken]

is that only for rgb?

[main pulsar]

no

you can get 4 pin fan splitters tho

plugs into motherboard, then it has multiple fan connectors

[silent sandal]

So basically getting more fans for my case bad idea

[vast granite]

No you just need to find a way to connect them all

[silent sandal]

Which means more money

[main pulsar]

these cost like 5 bux

[vast granite]

Not to much more or even that work

[silent sandal]

Cause my case has room for 6 fans

[vast granite]

Sassy would a splitter mean they all run at the same speed because they are all on one mobo port

[main pulsar]

yes

they are controlled by the same pwm pin

[vast granite]

Gotcha

Matter of grouping the fans

[silent sandal]

I will do

[gritty meadow]

@silent sandal keep in mind, just because you have room for X fans, does not mean you need X fans

[silent sandal]

I live in Arizona though

So I feel like that’s a good reason for more fans

[gritty meadow]

you live with air con then?

[silent sandal]

Usually not cause it’s expensive

Only in high summer

[gritty meadow]

keep in mind, fans wont make anything colder than the ambient temp

[silent sandal]

That’s true

Ambient temp is usually kinda warm

So my case already has 3 fans with it, in what case would you recommend more fans?

[gritty meadow]

generally: as long as there is some airflow, things will be just fine

[silent sandal]

Okay. It’s the p600s with regular stock fans

[gritty meadow]

aye

as i said, things will be just fine, as long as there is some airflow

[silent sandal]

Alright, thanks

[hollow kraken]

front fans should be daisy chained or put on one header

aio fans should probably be dc since pwm on an aio might affect it poorly idk

[tough wyvern]

I filled every fan slot in my new build just because.

Also I've had cooling problems with my current comp so I'm just throwing everything I can at this. Nine fans total counting the AIO

But yeah, it's likely overkill

[silent sandal]

Maybe later on for the look

But not needed now

[narrow mortar]

Any idea what time the ryzen 5000 clue go on sale tomorrow?

[silent sandal]

No

[pastel monolith]

nobody does

[long oriole]

The time was announced by AMD for 9am ET. but nobody has links for newegg pages or whatever.

[pliant mantle]

[south patrol]

can someone look over this link and see if it seems legit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-new-sealed-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-Six-Core-3-6-GHz-Desktop-Processor/313286539665?epid=16033158153&hash=item48f1553991:g:sCUAAOSwIK5foszF.

[pastel monolith]

@south patrol looks legit to me

the couple bad reviews were able to get a full refund

[south patrol]

sweet, would it be worth going for, or should i wait for a price drop or keep looking, suggestion?

[pastel monolith]

I think prices will keep dropping

[unreal ice]

guys
whats the best white motherboard or bright silver motherboard out there?
cause im looking to build a white pc

[south patrol]

so maybe give it a week?

[main pulsar]

that is listed as a new 3600

any 3600 on ebay lower than that is gonna be used

of course, that seller has no transaction history

[south patrol]

yeah, so what's your thoughts, would you go for it?

[silent sandal]

The time was announced by AMD for 9am ET. but nobody has links for newegg pages or whatever.
This real?

[main pulsar]

i would wait for the listings of actual people who are just trying to flip their old chip

This real?
@silent sandal idk

i mean, there are no links anywhere

and stuff is releasing tomorrow

[unreal ice]

guys
whats the best white motherboard or bright silver motherboard out there?
cause im looking to build a white pc

[south patrol]

amd or intel?

[silent sandal]

I have the Asus prime x570 pro. It’s white and looks good

[main pulsar]

cant find any 5600x listings anywhere

[unreal ice]

but

kina expensive

kind

a

[vast granite]

Where was this announcement

@long oriole

[south patrol]

@unreal ice are you looking for an amd board or an intel board?

[silent sandal]

I have no idea what the prime x570 pro is going for right now

[south patrol]

around 250-230

[long oriole]

can I post links here? @vast granite

[south patrol]

kinda an expensive board imo

yeah what for?

[silent sandal]

Oof yeah don’t get it then

I got it for 200

[south patrol]

yeah, when was that?

[unreal ice]

k

im prob using

the

5 3600

[long oriole]

Just look on r/amd @vast granite

[vast granite]

@long oriole dm me it if you'd like I just would like to see it

[south patrol]

alrighty, im running a crosshair VI hero and i love it, i can suggest that one

[unreal ice]

k

but

[main pulsar]

thats not a good board

[unreal ice]

my build is about 1600 cad

[main pulsar]

well, its no longer a good board

[unreal ice]

so if you can build me a all white pc

that would be much appreciated'

[main pulsar]

i will do you up a real nice white system

[south patrol]

i mean it's kinda expensive

[silent sandal]

Which board isn’t good anymore? The prime?

[south patrol]

and fish the crosshair VI isn't?

[main pulsar]

the crosshair VI

too old

[south patrol]

that's fair, i love the ports on it though, if i was to go newer what would you suggest?

[silent sandal]

Ah okay

[main pulsar]

ROG boards are also not in a 1600 cad price range lol

[unreal ice]

lol

[main pulsar]

motherboard is motherboard

[pastel monolith]

really liked that white one bitwit built with the white 2080ti and the lcd side panel

[main pulsar]

literally, anything

[south patrol]

Wdym by 1600 cad price range?

[pastel monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVEOn1twkYQ white build

[south patrol]

would i be better off without a rog board and more like a gigabyte or msi?

[main pulsar]

nah

you already have it

doesnt matter

[pastel monolith]

it apparently wasnt the one with the lcd side panel

[south patrol]

but if i was to upgrade, what would you suggest?

[misty obsidian]

@half crane nice build but no floppy drive reader is a show stopper for me

[main pulsar]

any b550 board

but you dont really have a reason to upgrade

[south patrol]

fair enough

[unreal ice]

hes just embarrassed that he made that decision

[main pulsar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gYWBD3/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011191-ww

i love this case

[unreal ice]

i know that case amazing

[main pulsar]

ugh

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/QTJmP6/corsair-icue-465x-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011189-ww

this one too

[unreal ice]

so what white mother board

[main pulsar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt

or that

pick one

[south patrol]

if i do go for a b550, is there a brand i should aim for?

[main pulsar]

not really

[silent sandal]

Phanteks

[south patrol]

phanteks board?

[silent sandal]

Not to you lol

[south patrol]

oh ok

[silent sandal]

I was saying phanteks of those 3 cases

[misty obsidian]

http://www.phanteks.com/PH-TC14PE.html

[main pulsar]

@unreal ice ever since msi stopped making their arctic boards, there really havent been any white motherboards

the best you can so is an asus one with white accents

[unreal ice]

thats sad

[misty obsidian]

I've got this cooler, it's so huge RAM barely fits underneath

[silent sandal]

Corsair makes white PSUs

[unreal ice]

i just have a white desk and i want to match the desk with the pc

even light silver works

[silent sandal]

Lol I have an old light brown wood desk

[unreal ice]

noice

i could go black motherboard but it would stand out from the white

[main pulsar]

that would be the strongpoint of the P400A

the interior is black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3wbkcf/msi-b350-tomahawk-arctic-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk-arctic

the last great motherboard

[unreal ice]

B350

[main pulsar]

sadly

[unreal ice]

no

B350

[main pulsar]

yeah

and

i mean, that would work with a 3600

[silent sandal]

Man that artic actually looks great

[main pulsar]

of course it does

[unreal ice]

looks

good

[silent sandal]

I want

[unreal ice]

but performance?

not so sure about that

[main pulsar]

i wasnt suggesting the board or anything lol

just showing it

but if youre curious, it will actually be fine

slap a 3600 in there no problem

it wont run a 5600x tho

[unreal ice]

i can go black and white pc build

since my accessories are going to be mostly black

[hollow thorn]

Sassy

[main pulsar]

yeah, so i would suggest the P400A white

[hollow thorn]

There's that white B550 board that's from gigabyte isn't there

focus d maybe

forgot name

[main pulsar]

yeah, but its still black pcb

just lots of white on it

[hollow thorn]

forgot the name smh

[main pulsar]

also its waaaay out of budget

[hollow thorn]

what's it called?

[main pulsar]

vision g

[unreal ice]

yep

that over priced

[hollow thorn]

ah

close enough

What about X570-p

[main pulsar]

vision d*

g is the intel one

[hollow thorn]

vision g focus g close enough

[main pulsar]

lmao

[unreal ice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sF8TwP here you go if anyone is willing to build a pc for me

[hollow thorn]

you already have it

[main pulsar]

yeah im working on one

[silent sandal]

What’s his budget?

[main pulsar]

1600 cad

[silent sandal]

Cause I might steal that build too for my little sister lol

She wants a white pc for her white desk

[unreal ice]

nicw

[twilit delta]

can you buy ryzen 5000 series on newegg tmr

[main pulsar]

white components are in too short a supply rn

i think im gonna change tactics

stick with the P400A, with the black interior, go with all black components

white leds

[silent sandal]

Sad

[noble wolf]

ffs the 5950x is gonna release at 1-2am for me -_-

[south patrol]

oof

[modest ice]

What time zone are you in>

?

[noble wolf]

+10:00

[modest ice]

Wow

Do you know what time the release is for -5 EST

[noble wolf]

Oh sorry, +11:00

Because of Daylight savings

Keep forgetting bout that lmao

[silent sandal]

I’m mst

I think it’s uh

Nvm idk

[wispy orchid]

what are the release time of ryzen 5000 for east time?

[cinder sphinx]

Anyone heard of Klevv bolt ram?

[main pulsar]

@unreal ice https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/H4JBcT

[silver vector]

Hey guys, what is the JTPM1 connector on the motherboard used for?

[unreal ice]

@main pulsar should i go white cooler or also black

cause you didnt add cooler

[south patrol]

what color is the board?

probs black

[unreal ice]

check it out

yes its black

[silver vector]

bruh

[silent sandal]

There’s stock cooler with that cpu right

[unreal ice]

yes

but

i still need cpu cooler

1 isnt enougj

[silent sandal]

Wdym 1 isn’t enough

[unreal ice]

cause its a fn

fan

i need water cooler

[hollow thorn]

what

no you don't

[silent sandal]

Not at all

The stock cooler is enough for the 3600

[unreal ice]

gpu?

[silent sandal]

Has its own thing

[hollow thorn]

@unreal ice the CPU.
Comes with.
A stock.
Cooler.

[main pulsar]

^

[silent sandal]

No cooler purchase necessary

[unreal ice]

but

how long can i game

[silent sandal]

Long time

[unreal ice]

until the thing overheats

and if i want to overclock?

[silent sandal]

Do you?

[unreal ice]

yes

[silent sandal]

Mr1111 or sassy would be better for that

[south patrol]

you should still be fine, if not you can get a pretty simple fan cooler for really cheap

[unreal ice]

so when is a cpu cooler necessary

[silent sandal]

The cpu you’re getting comes with a cooler

[south patrol]

unless you overclock for a few hours, a stock cooler should be fine

[unreal ice]

water

[hollow thorn]

just get AIOs out of your mind

[south patrol]

fan cooling is cheaper, more reliable, and usually better than liquid

[hollow thorn]

For basically everyone, watercooling is useless

[silent sandal]

When do you need a water cooler? Almost never, and certainly not with your cpu

[south patrol]

ye

[hollow thorn]

chasing that 1c cooler doesn't matter

[south patrol]

probably only time it's useful is for large amounts of cpu heavy processing, on a day to day basis, even then a fan would serve you better in the long run

[unreal ice]

nah im just going to do some gaming and a little bit of content creation

[silent sandal]

No need for an aio then

[south patrol]

exactly

a cheap two fan decent sized block cooler will do you just fine

[unreal ice]

my friend has an i5-9600k and he has a kraken z43

x43

[hollow thorn]

Stock is fine even

[unreal ice]

my bAD

[hollow thorn]

@unreal ice laugh at them

Gammaxx 400 if you really want something that isn't stock

or if stock is loud

[unreal ice]

yes but he overclocked

[hollow thorn]

it's just 25$

so what

OCing gives about nothing for the normal person

[unreal ice]

thats why he got the kraken

cause he needed to overclock

[hollow thorn]

@unreal ice no one NEEDS to overclock

and overclocking isn't some fancy thing you do that magically makes your machine perform 100% better

[south patrol]

exactly, and even then, a fan cooler will still do the job just fine for cheaper

[silent sandal]

Just stick with the stock

[south patrol]

the only thing overclocking does is mildly improve performance for a short time, long term overclocking if im not mistaken is bad for the chip and really won't help anything unless you are literally using a rock

[hollow thorn]

it's just

stick to stock

[unreal ice]

ok

so do i get an extra fan

[south patrol]

nope

[hollow thorn]

nope

no need

[unreal ice]

so the stock fan that comes with the cpu is enough to handle about 1 hour of overclocking?

[modest ice]

I've seen no evidence that overclocking significantly reduce the performance of a chip over time

[heady cliff]

you can get them later if need

[hollow thorn]

@unreal ice how about this

never overclock

:P

[unreal ice]

why not

[hollow thorn]

Overclocking doesn't matter

[south patrol]

yeah, just puts stress on things unnecessarily

[hollow thorn]

you want to spend an afternoon doing nothing but trying random numbers and doing stress testing for no reason?

be my guest

but seriously

[modest ice]

Overclocking hasn't mattered since sandy bridge

[heady cliff]

just dont

[hollow thorn]

you barely ever get any reasonable perf increase

Hell

[unreal ice]

ok then i wont

[hollow thorn]

personally

0 perf increase

and I know I've damaged my chip

both of my chips

just don't do it

Ram OC is a even harder no

[unreal ice]

k i take your advice

[heady cliff]

thats unlucky

[hollow thorn]

nah I was just misinformed

[heady cliff]

?

[hollow thorn]

was simply told like 1.35v max for zen 2

and that's not how voltages work

so I dailyed that for a while

[south patrol]

oof

[hollow thorn]

quite sad

[south patrol]

big ol oof

[heady cliff]

lifes life

[hollow thorn]

oh well

[modest ice]

The real elites undervolt and overclock

[hollow thorn]

mhm

I do 1.2v 4ghz via bios nowadays

[unreal ice]

so

[south patrol]

yeah, i won't mess with my volatages bc last time my laptop shat itself when i undervolted it

[hollow thorn]

undervolt underclock really

[unreal ice]

i should upgrade ram with the rest of the money i have since it still dint reach 1600 cad

[modest ice]

I used to undervolt my phones

[hollow thorn]

no

save your money

[modest ice]

Battery life increased dramatically

[unreal ice]

@hollow thorn is it not worth it then

[south patrol]

=wait what kind of phone?

[modest ice]

Moto droid

[hollow thorn]

3600c16 ram is overpriced in Canada

it's like 40cad difference between 3200c16 and 3600c16

[south patrol]

interesting

[hollow thorn]

not worth

[unreal ice]

sad

[south patrol]

yeah, and honestly 16 gb will do you fine for a while

[unreal ice]

k

[modest ice]

I bought 32GB of 3200

I'm counting on having at most a 3% performance penalty

In ver circumstatial applications

For a savings of about 200$ CAD

I'll take that 200$ and buy stonks

Speaking of which

I just reovered ~4000 USD of losses today

[silent sandal]

Nice

[modest ice]

Another day like this and my next build will be paid for entirely by AMD

[silent sandal]

Lol what happened

[modest ice]

I bought 800 shares of AMD @ 83$

I'm thinking it's going to break new highs

[silent sandal]

Oh nice

[modest ice]

So 95$ plus

I'm thinking it will run past 100$

[main pulsar]

you bought NOW?

[hollow thorn]

yea it's a good day

[modest ice]

No this is probably my 15th trade on AMD

[main pulsar]

you do understand theres an election going on

[modest ice]

Yes

I also understand there's a pandemic

And hugeinflation

I'm not worried

Tech isn't going anywhere

[main pulsar]

you do understand that bad things happen to the stock market after the election, right?

well, they can

[modest ice]

I have several hundred thousands in the stock market

[main pulsar]

its an unnecessary risk factor

[modest ice]

I understand fairly well what I'm up against

[main pulsar]

sure

[modest ice]

This is not my first rodeo

[main pulsar]

still, now of all times is a strange time to buy

[modest ice]

No

[main pulsar]

like, you couldnt wait a few days

[modest ice]

And the reason is

Most people think like you

Which makes it a good time to buy

[main pulsar]

true, however when the market takes a turn for the worst?

you lose

[modest ice]

It's usually very temporary

[main pulsar]

yeah obv

[modest ice]

What I didn't anticipate though was the bad reaction to xilinx

I see it as a great opportunity for AMD

[silent sandal]

Everyone I know who trades on the stock market is an absolute a hole

[modest ice]

But institutions probably feel they are over leveraged

[silent sandal]

I hope you aren’t the same

[modest ice]

I'm sure you can find many people who think I'm an a hole

But the same can be said about most people

So you can make your own judgement

[silent sandal]

But will I find you to be an a hole is the important question

Not others

[hollow thorn]

mhm

[modest ice]

I have aspbergers so I'm kind of used to people assuming I'm an a hole

[hollow thorn]

When AMD price dropped after xilinx, I was really confused

but anyways

[silent sandal]

I have schizophrenia so people think I’m insane and weird

Which I mean, they’re right

[modest ice]

I get along fine with most schizoids

We have an understanding

The world is fairly surreal to us

Retreating in a world of numbers, trends and patterns is something I like

And am also good at

Plus I don't have to interact with strangers

Other than my brokers

[silent sandal]

Lmao

[vagrant surge]

im pretty sure ive asked this before, but what are your thoughts on "ASRock A520M/ac Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard"

[modest ice]

That depends on your requirements

What do you need it for?

[vagrant surge]

most probably gaming programing and watching stuff

[main pulsar]

then its fine

[modest ice]

Perfect

[main pulsar]

its a good generic board

no overclocking, no high core count cpus

good price

[south patrol]

recomendation on a cpu to go with a 3070

[modest ice]

I would recommend a 3600 CPU or 5600X

[south patrol]

alrighty thanks

[modest ice]

That too

[main pulsar]

lol

[vagrant surge]

yeah im getting ryzen 5 3600

have any of you ever bought from vuugo?

[main pulsar]

nope

[unreal ice]

ok

just get neweg

[viral junco]

lets say i dont have a graphics card and will use integrated graphics. do i plug in the hdmi to the mobo

[hollow thorn]

Vuugo is trusted enough for canadian market afaik

[modest ice]

Yes

[hollow thorn]

yes

[viral junco]

ok. mobo's have hdmi ports?

[modest ice]

Some do

Usually have displayport

[viral junco]

alr

[modest ice]

And you can obtain a displaport to HDMI dongle fairly easliy

AMD broke high of day after hours

We might have another sweeze tomorrow

[viral junco]

do you know any good mobo's with wifi and hdmi port

[modest ice]

What's your budget?

[viral junco]

for the mobo or the whole build?

[stark laurel]

Ryzen 5000 releases at 9:00 am tomorrow?

[modest ice]

For the mobo

[viral junco]

hmm

around 120 usd area

[modest ice]

Oof idk

I bought a Asus ROG strix X-570-E

Has wifi 6 and display port and HDMI 2

But it's also like 400$

[viral junco]

oof

what about without wifi

[modest ice]

ASRock A520M-HDV AM4 AMD A520 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboar

[vast granite]

Msi x570 tomahawk just arrived it's so purdy

[modest ice]

This one is cheap af

[vagrant surge]

how can u know if a mobo has an hdmi apart from the pictures?

[modest ice]

Has no wifi built it

But you can buy a USB wifi dongle with the money you save

Look at the spec sheet

[heady root]

if you need a mobo without wifi (cheap b550) asrock phantom gaming 4

ez

and one with wifi is like the msi b550m pro vdh wifi

[hollow thorn]

@viral junco Get a B550 Pro-Vdh wifi

[heady root]

^^^

[viral junco]

ok

if my mobo didnt have wifi how do i install a wifi card

[stark laurel]

What time does the 5000 series launch tomorrow

[vast granite]

Supposedly 9am et

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jns570/zen_3_cpu_release_time_confirmed_by_amd/

Someone sent me this earlier, Ill remove it if reddit links aren't allowed

[modest ice]

I love living in the timezone that is at the center of the universe

[vast granite]

6am for me good thing I work so I'll be awake

[main pulsar]

no, reddit links are fine

[vast granite]

@long oriole sent me the link credit where it's due for the find

[autumn kindle]

Hi, am looking for some info on B550M Steel Legend board and if a bios update is required out of the box to work with ryzen 5000

If update is required, does the ASrock B550M Steel Legend need a cpu to update the bios?

[cursive quest]

I'm not as much of an expert as other people here, but I think a B550 doesn't require an update, dont quote me on that cause I could definitely be wrong

[narrow mortar]

@vast granite thanks for posting that!

[woeful ember]

how much is a difference from 4 cores to 8 cores

[silent sandal]

Depends on what you’re doing

[woeful ember]

just gaming in general and using chrome a lot

[silent sandal]

No need

Keep with a 5

[woeful ember]

if I want better fps and graphic what would i need

[modest ice]

I would recommend a 5600X

[woeful ember]

im running 8 ram and built in gpu

[modest ice]

Or 10700k

I would recommend no

What's your budget?

[woeful ember]

i would spend as much but i dont care about extremely good prefornce i just want something reliable that can run things semi max at 120 fps

im on laptop btw

[modest ice]

If you want a good system I recommend 16GB of ram these days

[woeful ember]

im getting 32

[modest ice]

With an add-in graphics card

3600X with a 6800 or 3070

You'd be golden for a few years at least

[woeful ember]

im thinking about getting an external graphics card box but i cant find one thats just the box and sperately buy the card

[fallen lynx]

external GPU?

[woeful ember]

yea since u can have a gpu shoved in a laptop

im very new to pc

[modest ice]

I revoke my suggestions

I can't recommend anything for laptops

[woeful ember]

i know but could you at least tell me the basics of how cpu ram and gpu work

i want to know what would help in fps and graphics

[formal wyvern]

Is the release of the Ryzen 5000 Series going to be at 9:00am Pacific?

[vast granite]

9am et

From the reddit page

[formal wyvern]

Thank you! @vast granite

[cedar harbor]

any website update page for US?

[modest ice]

That's 6am pacific

9am eastern

[green terrace]

I'm guessing they didn't release reviews did they?

Makes me wonder what they're hiding 😉

[sullen cradle]

I have purchased ASUS ROG Strix X570-I, it looks like old version not compatible with Ryzen 5000. Is there any way I could get the firmware updated without buying old processor? Does newegg currently have version with latest BIOS version?

[green terrace]

I think microcenter may help with that. Not sure.

You might just have to get someone to lend you a cpu.... unless there's another way to flash the bios

[hollow thorn]

@sullen cradle what CPU do you currently have?

[naive pendant]

Do the new ryzens have integrated graphics?

[hollow thorn]

@naive pendant Ryzen chips don't have iGPU unless G suffix

[naive pendant]

Damn

[sullen cradle]

@hollow thorn Currently have many years old intel based system, now building new AMD ITX system

[hollow thorn]

Don't buy it

That's my answer to Corsair rgb ram

@sullen cradle I'm still checking, but AMD should still be doing the loaner kit program to get motherboards updated

[gritty meadow]

they are

[hollow thorn]

@gritty meadow do you know where the updated place for em will be? This page is still only for the 3rd gen chips.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

[gritty meadow]

most likely there will be a post about it

but again, people are asking before the chips are out

not bugger all that can be done right this second you know? :)

@hollow thorn

[sullen cradle]

@hollow thorn Looks interesting, but I worry about delay in processing loaner program. I am considering returning x570-I and get B550-I instead (it have bios flashback). It would be also interesting to know that current bios version in newegg stock .

[hollow thorn]

Ah alright

Fair enough

@sullen cradle Getting a board with bios flashback sounds good, and there's no way to tell bios version.

[graceful elm]

So the amd cpus come out the 5th, what time do you guys think it will come out

[naive pendant]

Noonish I’m guessing

[vast granite]

Do x570 boards need an update or are they already set

Same with 550s?

[hollow thorn]

wait wtf

copied wrong image

@vast granite

[vast granite]

Yay now I gotta figure out how to update my board

[hollow thorn]

it's p easy

[vast granite]

I don't have a cpu

Current ordering everything so thatll be the interesting part

[hollow thorn]

usb flashback whenever possible

[vast granite]

Ohh that's right

[hollow thorn]

it's really nice and simple if the boards supports it

[vast granite]

Time to find out if mine does

[hollow thorn]

what do you have?

[vast granite]

Msi X570 tomahawk

Seems like it does from their site

[hollow thorn]

@vast granite it has usb flashback

[vast granite]

Yo yay

[hollow thorn]

here's their guide on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

[vast granite]

Just watched that

Went to their site and it took me their

[hollow thorn]

msi bios flashback is easy asf

I actually just flash the bios instead of reseting cmos because I'm lazy when I was doing ram oc lol

[silent sandal]

So how do you update if you have only the new processor?

[hollow thorn]

if you have usb flashback

do that thing above

[silent sandal]

Idk if it has it

[hollow thorn]

what board

[tough wyvern]

Going to have to do this with my motherboard I assume as well. Still waiting on PSU...

[silent sandal]

Prime x570 pro

[hollow thorn]

Doesn't have usb flashback

[tough wyvern]

If my MB shipped from Amazon with the current bios version I will eat a bird.

[hollow thorn]

?

[tough wyvern]

By which I mean a chicken. Cooked.

[hollow thorn]

I see

[pastel monolith]

you will be eating that chicken then

no not really they are never that up to date

[tough wyvern]

I'll still be eating that chicken for the record.

I've got four store pages open waiting for 5900s to show up.

[silent sandal]

F

How do I do it then

[late pine]

uhh

do the 5900s show up today

I thought tomorrow morning

[tough wyvern]

tomorrow

[silent sandal]

Tomorrow morning

[tough wyvern]

I'm just getting extra ready

[late pine]

gl hf

[tough wyvern]

Thanks, I won't 😄

[late pine]

I'm tryna build a computer over fall break

hopefully they aren't too hard to get

[tough wyvern]

This fall or next fall?

This fall, I assume difficult.

[late pine]

like 2 weeks from now

lol

if I don't get one at launch I'll have to get coding

at least I have fiber internet from uni

[tough wyvern]

Unless AMD is the first to buck this particular tend this year

[late pine]

the 5000 series isn't as big of a performance / value improvement as the new gpu's

I would be surprised if demand were the same level

[tough wyvern]

Man I just hope they're in stock for longer then a minute, and people are weird, they might not pay attention to those numbers and just go "Oh new shinny, I have to have it!"

[late pine]

ok but to be honest that's why I'm buying it too

[tough wyvern]

It's an absolutely absurd jump for me though, so, fingers crossed

[late pine]

like I could easily use a used 3900x and get much better price to performance

[silent sandal]

At this point I had a 3900x and returned it cause people yelled at me, so I’m getting a 5900x or nothing

[late pine]

lol why did you return it before getting a 5900x

[silent sandal]

Cause I couldn’t afford to get the 5900x

I needed to return it to be able to buy the new one

[tough wyvern]

5900 is my goal; if the 5950s sell out slower for some reason and that's all I can get ahold of, I'll just eat the premium.

Otherwise I'm just going to wait.

[late pine]

I think more people will want 5950

it will def be more targeted by scalpers at least

[silver pewter]

I'm doing the same thing but on the lower end. 5600x is what I'm aiming for, but I'll buy a 5800x if they are available.

[late pine]

because you can usually make the highest profit reselling the most expensive part

[tough wyvern]

maybe everyone will have blown their budget buying 3080s at x2 MSRP on ebay and they can't afford anything else lol

[silver pewter]

Speaking of, what time do they gone sale tomorrow? 9am eat?

[devout moth]

Captain_Sisko#2185 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[silver pewter]

Est*

[late pine]

oof I guess I can't swear

lmao

[tough wyvern]

Nope, there's a filter on here

[vast granite]

I'm surprised I haven't gotten flagged

[late pine]

the people paying 2x msrp literally do not care about cost

I said f word

[tough wyvern]

But, does it know SWEDISH bad words!?!?!

[devout surge]

Given you can buy a prebuilt for nearly the same price as a "reseller's" 3080 GPU right now...

[late pine]

well if I don't get a cpu at launch I am writing a bot to get one for me

if you can't beat em join em

not gonna resell it tho

[silver pewter]

I'm hoping the CPUs won't be as attractive as the GPUs because the price to performance is completely different when compared to last gen. I'm just wanting the 5000 series because I'm upgrading a mostly 5year old rig.

[late pine]

I predict that will be the case

but we can't know for sure

[silent sandal]

I’m getting a brand new rig with a decent budget, plus I will use the 9 to its full potential anyways

[vast granite]

I just want more than 2 cores

[silver pewter]

I'm building a new rig too. Selling my old rig for parts after the new one is assembled

[vast granite]

It maybe an i7 I'm currently on but 2 cores is running itself short these days

[split copper]

mobile i7?

[vast granite]

Laptop yee

[split copper]

my mom's laptop has an i7-5500U

the one I'm using is i5-2450M

[vast granite]

I7 7500u

[split copper]

not so bad

I'd use it

but I prefer a weaker laptop than my desktop, which is also weak

[silver pewter]

I'm running a FX 8350 right now, so I'm really hoping to get off the FX platform and jump to the Ryzen

[vast granite]

I code and run virtual machines so i need more specs

[silver pewter]

That's a good reason .

[lone oar]

Can you swap out a cpu and keep the same cooler

[graceful elm]

yes?

[lone oar]

ok it was a dumb question lol

[graceful elm]

im not a pc builder but i think so

[haughty lagoon]

if you have the mounting bracket probably, will need to re apply thermal paste though

[graceful elm]

^

[lone oar]

i was just concerned about the thermal paste

if you have the mounting bracket probably, will need to re apply thermal paste though
@haughty lagoon yeah

ok thx

[graceful elm]

you should probably wipe it off or something

then re apply

[lone oar]

ok

[graceful elm]

Yall think the 5000 series will be on newegg, also where else

[late pine]

I think it will be at multiply retailers

iI am curious

[modest ice]

newegg amazon etc

micro center in the U.S.

Cnada computer in canada

If tiger direct hasn't died a painful death yet it might be there too

Also best buy

[vast granite]

Amazon would be preferable but i never saw any of the gpus on there so idk if the cpu will be on there

But I'm hopeful

[modest ice]

Best buy seems to be trying to enter the space to compete with amazon, wal mart and newegg

They do have an exclusivity deal for nvidia FE cards

I'd be pissed if I was any other retailer

[vast granite]

When i look up 5600x on newegg it doesn't load for me

Just keeps searching

[modest ice]

Try in about 3 hours or so

They might put up a placeholder after midnight

[vast granite]

I know just strange it doesn't even show me the 3600 or other cpus

[modest ice]

5900x works for me

5600x gets me radeon 5600XT's

Then again I'm on newegg.ca not .com

[vast granite]

Interesting

I'm on the app

[modest ice]

Newegg really surprises me with some of their inventory

Non-Contact Digital Temperature Thermometer Wall-Mounted Infrared Forehead Thermometer

That's a lot to unpack

3 Pieces Insulating Firebrick Fire Brick

Come get your bricks

[sudden sierra]

Quick question, is it possible that a mobo refuse to boot if the memory is not compatible with the processor?

[modest ice]

Depends by what you mean "boot"

If you have bad memory you won't even post

You should get a beep code if that's the case

iirc the beep code for bad memory is just endless repeated short beeps

[sudden sierra]

There was no speaker on the mobo I had

[devout moth]

phbou#6887 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sudden sierra]

I RMA the mobo due to that

[modest ice]

If you suspect your memory is at fault you can try removing 1 stick and then the other

[sudden sierra]

will the mobo start without the sticks?

like can I see the bios ?

[modest ice]

I think so

It might

[sudden sierra]

ok thanks

[modest ice]

I never tried it if I'm being honest

Also you might want to remove the memory and re-seat it

[sudden sierra]

I'll try if I'm still getting the issue

Ok

I did that

[modest ice]

Do you have your CPU power plugged in?

SOmetimes people forget to do that

[sudden sierra]

yeah it was pluggued

Even removed everything unecessary like ssd and video card

[modest ice]

Which CPU and which motherboard?

[sudden sierra]

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476?Item=N82E16820232476

[modest ice]

It could be the CPU is unsupported

[sudden sierra]

https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-b550m-a-csm/p/N82E16813119317?Item=N82E16813119317

I choosed what newegg proposed me in the builder

[modest ice]

Ok

[sudden sierra]

https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-3600xt-ryzen-5-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113653?Item=N82E16819113653

[modest ice]

Is it a 3600 or 2600?

[sudden sierra]

3600xt

[modest ice]

Do you have a USB port dedicated for bios update?

[sudden sierra]

there's a comment in the g-skill reviews that said it might fail to work

NOpe

[graceful elm]

i got some overkill memory

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vVVD4D/patriot-viper-steel-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4400-cl19-memory-pvs416g440c9k

[sudden sierra]

overkill how?

[graceful elm]

4400, i feel there is no point to it

its just big number

[sudden sierra]

so tcheap compared to what I got

[naive pendant]

3000+ and I don't feel the difference anymore, but I can imagine some niche cases - compatibility aside - where that big number might come in useful.

[graceful elm]

apparently the new cpus are supposed to work better with 4000

[sudden sierra]

i guess if you swap a lot of memory fast :/

[graceful elm]

didnt amd recommend 4000 memory?

[naive pendant]

Wouldn't be your normal gaming, but some power user tasks I can see it. Can't really speak for it given I'm probably the lowest budget user in the room.

[modest ice]

I ordered 3200

But I ordered 32GB of it

[graceful elm]

a lot of people get 3200

i wanted 32 gigs but didnt wanna spend a lot on ram

[naive pendant]

That's my take Blue, volume + sufficient speed.

[modest ice]

32GB of 3600 + is much more expensive

[naive pendant]

Strictly speaking, 32gb isn't terribly hard to get. It's the speed, assuming you need it that gets ya.

[pastel monolith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zrZFf7/gskill-trident-z-royal-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4800-memory-f4-4800c18d-16gtrs this is the good stuff

[graceful elm]

thats so expensive

good lord

[split copper]

xd

[sudden sierra]

someone is rich

[naive pendant]

General usage I'm fine cheaping out for speeds, and therin lies the rub; you can end up with some pretty nifty ram volume at my puny budget.

[pastel monolith]

I dont have any I just like to look at it

[split copper]

put it on a CPU that has a slower clock speed than the memory

[graceful elm]

what time do you think i should check for the new cpus?

im thinking of just refreshing new egg a lot

[sudden sierra]

You'll be marked as a bot

They said that in a news

Anybody know some AMD supported memory stick?

Or that's supposed to be universal no matter the CPU?

[modest ice]

9am EST

[split copper]

DDR4

newer Zen processors do best with 3600 C16 I guess

older ones 3200 is fine

and if you want 3200 for a newer one that's pretty much fine

[pastel monolith]

yeah it gets a decent boost from faster ram the 3600 cl16 is worth it if you can afford it

[chrome canyon]

Hi I'm new to pc building, haven't built one before

i got a 3080 and a ryzen 9 3900x

What's the best mobo i can get?

[sudden sierra]

Lucky

[chrome canyon]

yeah

[pastel monolith]

the asus tuf x570 is a good choice

[sudden sierra]

Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero

The tuf is tcheaper

[pastel monolith]

that one is probably the best just $$$

lol exactly

[sudden sierra]

And overkill lol

[chrome canyon]

I have a lot of questions sorry never built one before

watched a lot of linus for research

and jaytwocentz

What's the best RAM i can buy? looking for 32gb 3000+mhz

[pastel monolith]

no problem those are both good channels to give you pretty good grasp on building a pc

you should get 3600 16cas ram

[chrome canyon]

it doesn't matter what brand right

as long as its 3600 cl16?

[sudden sierra]

look for that

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen)

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Description=G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen)&cm_re=G.SKILL_Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen)-_-20-232-861-_-Product

[chrome canyon]

ooo

[sudden sierra]

Maybe what you want

[chrome canyon]

im going for a white-blue frosty build

[sudden sierra]

Well then

[pastel monolith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mmgQzy/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16q-32gvkc nice reasonable option

[chrome canyon]

2x16 vs 4x8 isn't a biggie right? same thing

[sudden sierra]

more standard to go with 2x16

[chrome canyon]

just an aesthetic reason?

[graceful elm]

@sudden sierra where did you see that marked as a bot thing?

9am EST
@modest ice that the time for the release? Where did you hear that?

[sudden sierra]

In an article about the 3070 saying the stock wouldn't last a few minutes on newegg,

[chrome canyon]

also dw about budget since my budget doesn't have a gpu cause i got the 3080 for free super lucky

[modest ice]

reddit

[graceful elm]

also dw about budget since my budget doesn't have a gpu cause i got the 3080 for free super lucky
@chrome canyon FREE?????

[chrome canyon]

yeah

[graceful elm]

you got a sugar daddy?

[chrome canyon]

i got one of each 30 series for free

[sudden sierra]

EH

[graceful elm]

WHAT

[sudden sierra]

You seem generous

[chrome canyon]

ik i can't believe it myself lol

[graceful elm]

why don't you use 3090?

[chrome canyon]

3080 is mine, 3070 is for an art contest im hosting, 3090 is for a friend

[graceful elm]

i see

interesting

[chrome canyon]

I decided I wasn't gonna use the 3090 because I don't think power consumption is worth it

[graceful elm]

true

true that

[chrome canyon]

since i don't think what i do will use the 90 to full potential

[graceful elm]

so much power

[vast granite]

@graceful elm https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jns570/zen_3_cpu_release_time_confirmed_by_amd/

[sudden sierra]

Thans

[chrome canyon]

would it be foolish if i got the 3900x instead of the 5900x

[graceful elm]

maybe

unless youre on a budget

and waiting for black friday

[remote lagoon]

Do you guys know how to get the 5000 series CPUs?

[modest ice]

No they are both good choices

[chrome canyon]

thing is im planning to finish the build before november but if i plan on getting the 5900x instead i'll have to wait a good couple months

[graceful elm]

check newegg or something at 9 am est

@remote lagoon

[chrome canyon]

another question for a new timer

should i get water cooling?

I'm super skpetical on it

[graceful elm]

i didn't

im building my own pc for the first time as well

its better at cooling

[chrome canyon]

its risky i heard but i feel like i need it since mines kinda powerful

[graceful elm]

but the risk of it leaking is too scary for me

[dusk fern]

a good air cooler (~100usd) will compete with most water cooling until you push overclocking hard, at least in my experience

[chrome canyon]

yeah same

[graceful elm]

Noctua is pretty good

[chrome canyon]

also i heard something about gpu coolers what are does

[graceful elm]

i went with scythe fuma 2

[chrome canyon]

do i put it on my gpu like a cpu cooler

[dusk fern]

AIO water coolers are pretty safe. I did my first custom water cool with one of those premade aluminum EK kits with the PC-011 Dynamic. Went very well. I've had to take it apart and put it together a billion times because of hardare issues, no leaks at all tho

[graceful elm]

i have no clue

[inner peak]

Question about the Ryzen 5xxx series. If I buy a board (x570) and the bios is not up to date, do you think it will works "enough" so I can update to the latest bios version ?

[gritty meadow]

@inner peak it will either work, or it wont.

[inner peak]

Hahaha

yeah I guess

[gritty meadow]

there is no "kinda work" state

[graceful elm]

i got the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS as well

[inner peak]

okay, so bios update is not for optimization 🙂

[fallen lynx]

if you get an MB that can flash from USB with no CPU then you are golden

[scenic notch]

No the bios isn’t up to date

[gritty meadow]

for the baseline support <- is what i am talking about @inner peak

[chrome canyon]

What are the image perm requirements here?

would love to send images

[inner peak]

That is a thing, a mobo that can flash without CPU ?

[graceful elm]

regular i think

cause i can send

[chrome canyon]

oh only level 3 thats fair

is there a way that i can make my 3080 appear white

maybe wrap it or smth

[gritty meadow]

aye, some boards can do that @inner peak

[inner peak]

Next question, I got my hand yesterday on an Aorus 3080. Kind of paid it before actually looking at the card. This think is HUGE... Like 4 slot. I had a ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS in my cart but now I am worring that the card will hinder cooling of the chipset on the Mobo. Any advice?

I am thinking about switching to a gigabyte Aorus mobo as well, seems to have a lot of space below the pcie slot...

gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite

[pastel monolith]

I wouldnt be worried about the chipset being covered by the card

and I like Asus TUF GAMING X570 this line

[dark flame]

Hmmmm

[pastel monolith]

we all saw that pcb theres nothing back there lol

[hollow thorn]

Aorus master and Aorus extreme RTX 3080s are only dual slot? @inner peak

[inner peak]

Externally, yes. But it'sliek 3 inches tick I think

[pastel monolith]

they do kind of look like those "2" but its actually 2.4 slot kind of cards

[hollow thorn]

uh?

I mean, it's nowhere near "4 slot" lel

[pastel monolith]

no not a 4

[hollow thorn]

They're more 2.5 slot

listed on TPU as a dual slot GPU

[naive pendant]

Can a card be 4 slots thicc?

No right?

[inner peak]

Look here, it's wider internally

HUGE!!!

[hollow thorn]

lol

[naive pendant]

@inner peak thats thic

[hollow thorn]

I see

[pastel monolith]

I dont know maybe he is replacing a geforce gt 720 or something and was shocked

[hollow thorn]

real thick

[naive pendant]

A chunky boii

[pastel monolith]

mine takes up 3 whole slots

[inner peak]

There is a freaking LCD panel on top lolll

That was the fastest checkout I ever did in my life on newegg lol

[hollow thorn]

lol

[inner peak]

Anyway, I will probably try with this mobo:

Seems to have room below the PCIe

And the fan for the chipset is lower than on other setup I saw.

[fallen lynx]

you could get B550 and not have to worry about the chipset fan

[devout moth]

MrWho#2768 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[inner peak]

🤔

👀

[pastel monolith]

Im telling you that the GPU will have 0 effect on the chipset

[hollow thorn]

yea

[inner peak]

I guess the heat is blown UP ?

[hollow thorn]

chipset barely needs the fan

[pastel monolith]

plus in that 3080 half the card is nothing

the pcb only takes up the front half

any thing past the power connectors is just cooling

naked 3080

[inner peak]

Yup, Its a huge heat sink

Hope I will be able to boot my computer without tripping the breakers loll

[pastel monolith]

my point exactly if anything it will leach heat from the chipset lol

[gritty meadow]

no, not possible

it will all melt @inner peak

[hollow thorn]

including the table

[gritty meadow]

you need at least a Delta fan on that chipset.

[hollow thorn]

don't worry about it

[inner peak]

It will end up in the earth core 🙂

[gritty meadow]

yes, and now that the obvious jokes have been said. Could we stop with the BS?

that also means you @inner peak

there is no problem with the chipset

or the airflow over said chipset

none

[inner peak]

And what is the big difference with a x570 and a b550 ? I know there a couple more PCIe lines but where does it make a difference ?

[gritty meadow]

if you have a need for multiple x16 ports

that is it

(from a consumer POV)

[pastel monolith]

in my opinion its not worth it just bells and whistles

[gritty meadow]

agreed Nilboggen

[chrome canyon]

my current pc only has one fan

onlyfan

[gritty meadow]

yes yes, haha, very mature.

[chrome canyon]

and that only fan is the loudest fan i heard

[cinder sphinx]

Is 128gb ram overkill for 3080 and Ryzen 5900x?

[hollow thorn]

Depends on what you do

If you need it, you need it.

[gritty meadow]

has to suit the owner of the machine @chrome canyon

[chrome canyon]

if ur an average computer user, 16gb is enough

128gb is for big video editing projects and stuff like that

[inner peak]

Yeah, on the gaming side, 16gb is generally enough with exceptions of flight sim 2020 I think.

[cinder sphinx]

Video render, yes. I was thinking 64gb too.

[chrome canyon]

if u can get that 128 no problemo just go for it i say

[pastel monolith]

if money isnt really a factor I would throw 32gb in there but any more is just superfluous unless you are using it as a workstation