#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 136

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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is that good ram

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yellow line is $90, no point atm

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Ok

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b
@naive pendant yuh its cl16 and 3600 mhz

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Nice

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:18 PM

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its good looking too

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if that matters

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Yo rgb for 89 nice

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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i dont really like rgb that much but i think it was the best for the price

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Cuz the non rgb is 75

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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that was def a good deal

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and I would rather have RGB cause if im paying a lot for a PC i would like it to look cool

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plus the subtle flex for like $15 more is not bad lmao

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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No that's fair I'm also in the same boat of choosing which set to buy

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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im more into function over form. If it would work best nailed to a wall then id do that

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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So yeah I’ll probably get the 5600 when I can, 3070 when I can, and the other parts on Black Friday or if there’s a really good price on Newegg

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I'm watching if either goes on sale even a little it would away me

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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There’s no way those two parts will be on sale because of how new they are

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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So yeah I’ll probably get the 5600 when I can, 3070 when I can, and the other parts on Black Friday or if there’s a really good price on Newegg
@plush knot Bro that's what im trying to do as well

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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And how hard it is to get ahold of a 3070

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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very

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I know but there's always a chance and i have time before I build so just watching

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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So yeah I’ll probably get the 5600 when I can, 3070 when I can, and the other parts on Black Friday or if there’s a really good price on Newegg
@plush knot thats exactly what im doing lmao

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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if you are impatient then it is hard. Rumors have it rthat stock should even out in january of 2021

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Oh I'm talking bout ram goin on sale btw

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I can wait until January

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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def microcenter is your best bet

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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That’s not a problem

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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im try ing to get my gpu tmrw

plush knot Nov 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I’ve been waiting for cyberpunk for like 2 years I can wait 3 months for a pc

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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i really want 2 more sticks of 8gb ram but i think im good with the 2 i already have

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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can anyone tell me if ASUS TUF Z390-Pro Gaming Motherboard LGA1151 is compatible with i7 7700?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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based purely off the names I think it is

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I believe it should be because they are both LG 1151 sockets but pc part picker cant find this board

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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hmm I dont think it is actually

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Yeah its not

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:27 PM

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whys that?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:27 PM

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No idea the logistics, the mobo is on the site just not compaatable

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:27 PM

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link?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vvx2FT/asus-tuf-z390-pro-gaming-atx-lga1151-motherboard-tuf-z390-pro-gaming

Asus TUF Z390-PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

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yeah its 8th and 9tyh gen

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not 7th

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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so it would have to be the i7 8000 or i7 9000 series?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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correct

small urchin Nov 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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where do you see it say not compatiple?

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i trust you just wanted to verify

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nevermind, found it

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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always check the manufacturers site for cpu support verification.

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always

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never trust a vendor listing

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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manufactures as Naed said

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Amazon listings are helpful but I always go to the website

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 5:55 PM

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^^^

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:31 PM

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why do people hate on X570 boards so much over B550 mobos

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:31 PM

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expensive

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:31 PM

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on sale they're the same price, and there's good ones that aren't much more expensive

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i.e., $250 for B550 Tomahawk and $300 for X570 Tomahawk (Canadian), and there's now a GB X570 Aorus Elite sale for $250

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:33 PM

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performance on x570 isnt that much higher either

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I thought x570 was intel for a while so i didnt do much research on em for a while

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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don't you get better VRMs, PCIe 4.0 and better USB C support for instance

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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on x570?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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it's not always performance but also feature set

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yea

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yea thats what i was referring to lol

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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some B550 boards I was looking at didn't have front panel USB C, while all X570 boards have them

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Oh yeah that too

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:35 PM

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yea thats what i was referring to lol
@covert tapir no I meant, you're not always paying just for the performance

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:35 PM

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but doesnt that contribute to performance in some cases?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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that's more feature set for me, performance would be actual frames or benchmarks

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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gotcha

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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welp, whatever, I'll likely just get a X570 board once we see benches for Zen3

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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some x570 boards are just as expensive as some b550 so i see the point there cuz youd get more for a similar cost even if its similar performance

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yeah thats probably a good idea

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I use x570 because i was a ryzen 3rd gen early adopter kek

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:38 PM

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lol yea, I think most of the hate stems from those early boards that were very pricey, now it's not much of a difference

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people just seem to tunnel vision too easily

covert tapir Nov 2, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I didnt really care and went with the x570 ACE, wasnt too concerned about money at the time, just wanted to build something super good

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yea, fair enough, some people are just obsessing over price too much, as if it's the end of the world if you pay a couple bucks more for a quality product you like

green terrace Nov 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Best 32gb ram kit under $200?

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@viral nebula re: x570: because people generally will be equally well served by a 100usd b550 board

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:41 PM

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not if you're a power user, maybe?

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:41 PM

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even power users

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:42 PM

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meh, I guess in Canada the prices are a bit skewed, most B550s are $200-250 and X570s are $250-$300

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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There are probably cheaper boards for less just not the nicer ones

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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the cheaper ones are mATX, I'm looking at ATX

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yeah that's the give and take of if all

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:45 PM

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traditionally, ATX was intended for users that had a need for all the expansion slots

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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which yea, I will need

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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IF people go crazy on their builds now? they might add one extra card beyond their GPU (again, talking generally here)

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just out of curiosity, what exactly do you need those slots for @viral nebula ?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 7:48 PM

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tv tuner, capture card, possibly more expansion slots for peripherals

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 7:51 PM

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can someone help me? i even asked on reddit but got no luck... i have a msi b550 tomahawk, but for the last few months the rgb (even the chipset one) hasnt been working... i tried bios and software update, switching the on/off button for the rgb, changing plugs, changing even the gpu... nothing... any ideas?

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:53 PM

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so, you are a corner case of a corner case user then @viral nebula. That just means you get to pay more :)

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congratulations :)

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@naive pendant contact MSI customer support

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 7:55 PM

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i already made a ticket but they didnt respond... ill try another way ty

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 7:56 PM

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there is nothing we can do about it realistically @naive pendant. So best of luck is sadly all i can offer

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 7:56 PM

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no prob, ty for the suggestion

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:04 PM

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So for an x570 to be actually worth more than the b550, what price range would that be?

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Basically I’m thinking I got a low quality x570, and should’ve just gotten a good quality b550 instead

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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in that case, it's a lot better to get a good quality B550

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Well yeah

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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B550 and X570, for your purposes, are identical

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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for the good X570's, there's a $50 CAD difference between their B550 equivalents

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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look for other things aside from chipset type

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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That’s why I’m thinking I made a mistake

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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if the features you need just so happen to only be available on an x570 board, then get it

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otherwise, there is no meaningful difference between the two chipsets

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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yarp

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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same goes for A520, but for fewer, select cases

short acorn Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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when is 5000 series releasing specifically

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like has the time been released?

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or just the date

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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nov 18th

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iirc

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wait

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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18th is the cards

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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ohhhh oh yeah

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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It’s uh 4th or 5th for the cpus

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@silent sandal what did you buy

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For the x570

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@short acorn 5000 series cpus release on the 5th

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:18 PM

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ah, yep, nov 5th

short acorn Nov 2, 2020, 8:18 PM

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yea ik i mean like

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time

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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prolly early morning

short acorn Nov 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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kk

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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just depends on time zone

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Time is not know yet around the same as nvidia 30 series but it'll probably get announced by the 4th

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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early morning PT

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typically

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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X570 or B550? Building a new pc.

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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x570

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Ryzen 5000 compatability

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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B550 also has Zen3 compatibility

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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which ryzen CPU do you recommend. I plan on gaming at 1440p 144Hz display.

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I think the mobo I got @vast granite was the x570 Asus prime

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I didnt know AMD revised the B550 support, thats great. personally i would still go x570 for the pcie 4.0 support and better overclocking headroom.

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For CPU at 1440 144hz I believe it would kinda depend on budget and what GPU your planning on using

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:25 PM

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does B550 support "SAM"?

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I am planning to get a 3080 or a 6800XT. depends on availability and price in my region.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I'm planning on pairing a 5900X with a 6800XT

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also for 1440p 144Hz

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Then personally I wouldn't go below 3rd gen Ryzen 7, but if you have a bigger budget, and are willing to wait a tad for availability, i would recommend looking at Ryzen 5th gen because they are supposed to be absolute powerhouses

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:28 PM

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well yuh, 3 more days for Zen3 launch

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Yeah, I guess I'll wait for the 5000 series.

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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ive been planning on upgrading to a 5900x, 3600mhz corsair vengance I will OC, and a x570 MEG Unify, but I've been hearing DDR5 rumours... Is it worth waiting? or shall I go ahead with this upgrade on the 5th.

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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does the B550 support SAM? or is it just for X570?

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:30 PM

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bare in mind i currently have a 4690k and slow ass ddr3 memory haha

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:30 PM

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DDR5 is coming? They wont be cheap I guess.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:31 PM

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yea, unless you want to be an early adopter sometime next year, it'll be a few years still till the prices get normalized, same as with DDR4

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so if you need a PC now, it's not worth waiting for, there's always gonna be the next big thing

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plus I think this season's great for buying a new PC, new hardware launch, black friday just around the corner, etc.

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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okay thanks, I think i will probably just go with this 5900x upgrade

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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DDR5 would be amazing, but i dont believe that it would be worth waiting because it would probably take a while to integrate into the mainstream even if it came out soon. plus the performance gain may not even be a meaningful leap for all we know because we dont have many real benchmarks on mainstream.

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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dont think i'll have the money for ddr5 when it first comes out

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I will be upgrading this season. this is a great season.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I'm upgrading from an asrock deskmini that I'll keep as a linux box

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I think this season is the best season for PC hardware sense we had 1st gen Ryzen and 10 series GPU's, im loving it. Im looking forward to upgrading of an old FX8350 lol

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:34 PM

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That's great. I always wanted to get into linux. I guess I would do the same with my old setup. I just don't know what could I do with it?

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I will be upgrading from an Radeon R7 370, i5 4440

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:35 PM

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do you think 3600mhz ram will be enough for the new 5900x?

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i would probably OC the ram anyways but im just curious. I'm planning to get 16gigs of corsair vengance 3600

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:35 PM

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mostly use it as a software development environment, win10 is actually getting nice but it doesn't have the level of customization that linux has, plus need it for cross-platform testing, otherwise linux is just as good for basic computer use

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plopping linux into old aging hardware is really nice because you avoid the overhead of win10 while maintaining usability due to a lightweight OS, if you decide to go for one of the lighter window managers

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@marble hare there's not that much more reason to go for 3600Mhz memory, seems like 3200Mhz is the sweet spot in terms of price and performance

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:37 PM

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lotsa new ppl

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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yeah, giveaways be like that sometimes.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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^ newegg giveaway, plus buildapc discord is super toxic

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this discord seems nice

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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it is

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we get spammed sometimes

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lol

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:39 PM

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So far I haven’t been roasted for being super new to the pc tech world

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So I like this server

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Same.

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:39 PM

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few ppl are like that here

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we do tend to roast and insult the new ppl who constantly think they know more than everyone tho

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too much youtube be like

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ppclown

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I mean, those kinds of roasts are needed.😅 .

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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All I learned about tech from YouTube is that Linus is funny

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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we regularly do fan boy roasts 🔥

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:42 PM

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tecc tip funny man

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I’m an AMD fanboy, roast me

vast granite Nov 2, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Amd good boom roasted 🤣

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:43 PM

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haha you like better price to performance lol

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:44 PM

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imagine saving money

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couldnt be me

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Oh so the board I got was x570 Asus prime

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There might still be time to return it

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 8:45 PM

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i mean, how much did you pay?

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if you paid like 150 for it then dont bother

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Okay I’ll try to return it lol

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Oh it was the pro

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Prime x570 pro lol

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:51 PM

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thats a pretty good board, if your planning on putting a 5000 series in it i would personally just keep it, presuming you got it for a good price and didnt end up overpaying of course.

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Just because I don't know how laptops are now, is the 4000 ryzen series better than intel?

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Was thinking of getting my dad something with a R5 4500U

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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what is his use case?

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I mean I got the board on a good sale, and yeah I’m planning on getting 5000 cpu

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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A work laptop, he needs a touch screen and multi tasking

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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can anyone help me?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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not gaming at all, and about what Gronbar

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 8:54 PM

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this giveaway is onlyf for CA residents?

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Theres a giveaway?

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and this isnt the spot to ask in this channel lol

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 8:54 PM

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under new linus video lol

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idk where to ask, so many chanells

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 8:55 PM

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If it wasnt signing up for Gleam tho.. That feels like malware on first page allready

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 8:55 PM

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General probably

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:56 PM

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for multitasking i would probably say go AMD 4000 series for the good thermal and power consumption performance. I haven't seen a lot of Ryzen laptops with touchscreens though so i suppose go AMD if you can find one for the right price and if not i would just go intel.

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 8:57 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1XV-000B-006V8?Item=9SIAEYJBH93869&Description=laptop&cm_re=laptop-_-9SIAEYJBH93869-_-Product#

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I think this laptop is good, for reference I used my i7-7700hq

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ajnd the cpu 4500U is pretty fast compared

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 8:58 PM

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YA i just convinced my roomy to get a gaming labtop with the 4800H. That thing is a beast

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@marble hare there's not that much more reason to go for 3600Mhz memory, seems like 3200Mhz is the sweet spot in terms of price and performance
@viral nebula true, i heard someone say that new spot would be 4000mhz for the new 5000 series CPU's

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might have been gamers nexus I cant remember who said it

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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It scores just 400 points less then my 3700x on cinibench 20

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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3600mhz is the sweet spot for 3rd gen Ryzen right now

full kiln Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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also, im pretty positive the canadian youtuber working with a sponsorship from a large retain company isn't just doing the giveaway just to Californians lol, especially sense there's an entry method spacifially for Canadian residents at the bottom of the entries page.

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I'm 99% sure GN didn't say 4000mhz is the sweet spot

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I'm 99.99% sure.

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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for the 5000 series?

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Yes 4000 will be.. They raised the possible flck

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It comes down to 1 to one with flck

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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GN doesn't say those things without testing it themselves

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Or infinity fabric.. I forget if its FLCK or BLCK

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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and I don't doubt that they'll have testing out day 1

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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yeah idk who acc said it

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Dang Im gonna be using 3600mhx ewwith a 5600x

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but its all good

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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yeah most probably not GN

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but it's what i've heard anyways

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I have 3600mhz and I’m planning on getting a 5000

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If I made another poor part choice I’m gonna cry

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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and tbh

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I'd wait for GN to really test IF on the new gen chips

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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If I made another poor part choice I’m gonna cry
@silent sandal It wont be a poor part choice lol itll still be fast

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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because one sec

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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trouble is the price increase from 3200Mhz to 3600Mhz is just too much, at least in Canada

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Waiting for GN's video as well.

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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SO to tell you how we currently stand. Infinity Fabric tops out on 1900 usually on most Zen 2 CPUs atm. This matches up with 3800mhz ram.. So the best possible atm is 3800mhz... If this is improved then the corresponding frequency to this will be the new best

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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AMD uses 3200mhz for their testing on their GPU perf numbers

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that's what's interesting to me

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If I was AMD, I would try to squeeze it all out to look good

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yet they use 3200mhz?

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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They did say they expect huge OC gains

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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They said GPU OC gains

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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trouble is the price increase from 3200Mhz to 3600Mhz is just too much, at least in Canada
Interesting. I went for the 3600 cause 3200 was barely any cheaper

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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they didn't talk about IF OC gains, or Ram OC gains on their platform

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so it's really interesting

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we'd have to wait for testing

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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well, i guess we will have GN tell us

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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in the UK, 3200mhz of corsair vengance is £80 and 3600mhz is £84 lmao

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Mhm, GN will likely have it in video 1 or video 2 launch day

fresh river Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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in the US its like a $10 differrence

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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In a later Q and A they said they expect Ram overclocking to gain the same way Zen 2 did.. I dont remember source

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Yeah in the US it’s almost a negligible difference

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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it's like 70cad vs 110cad

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which is weird

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@neat estuary interesting, didn't hear about that

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I will hang around and wait to see some results.

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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oh well, GN FTW

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give us the answers

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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in Canada it's totally not worthwhile, the price increase from 3200 to 3600 is too steep

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Ya.. I hope my B-die kit is up for the job. Im getting the 5900x

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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yea that's like 1.5x the price

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not good

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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if they say 4000mhz will be the new sweet spot for the 5000 series i will probably look at getting 4000mhz or 3600mhz to OC 🤷‍♂️

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I ordered this https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233894?Item=N82E16820233894 for my Zen3 build, there's discounts running

marble hare Nov 2, 2020, 9:06 PM

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3200 and 3600 are basically the same price here in the UK

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4000 on the other hand, huge increase

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:07 PM

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uhh

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:07 PM

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yup.. I cant wait for benchmarks. Their will now be all these valid arguements to buy cheaper Intel. But since im invested in the MObo i think i am golden

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@viral nebula can I just tell you to buy this
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091

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because this is just... 20cad cheaper

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for the same spec

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and I don't like corsair stuffing random dies in ram

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@hollow thorn I think that’s what I got, but 3600

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:08 PM

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if they say 4000mhz will be the new sweet spot for the 5000 series i will probably look at getting 4000mhz or 3600mhz to OC 🤷‍♂️
@marble hare Zen 3 FCLK is supposed to be similar to Zen 2, so expect the sweet sopt to remain 3600

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@hollow thorn I would, but then I'd have clearance issues with my CPU cooler

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:08 PM

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what cooler?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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going most likely for Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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tbh

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I think D15 will have issue with corsair too

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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3800-4000 is for overclocking the FCLK to 1900-2000

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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it's got horrible ram clearance on stock setup

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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which, most zen 2 chips couldnt handle

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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it's like 32mm

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yea, I'm gravitating more for DRP4

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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for reference, crucial ballistix is 40mm tall

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which I think is actually shorter than corsair lpx

green terrace Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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NH-D15s for ram compatibility

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Or a smaller cooler

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Corsair LPX is 34mm

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DRP4 clearance is 40mm

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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DRP4 gets 40mm

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hm

neat estuary Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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@main pulsar well ya. It will depend what the CPUs can handle. 1900 flck is currently already hard to get on many cpu

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yep

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yea, I mean, you could fit gskill vengeance in there, but it'd be a tight fit, and I wouldn't want the heat/pressure from the CPU cooler on my RAM

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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wait

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ballistix is ~33mm too

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wth

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I thought it was 40mm

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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ballistix short

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I'm going crazy

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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heatspreadder is the same height as the PCB

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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yea

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a bit higher

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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no good prices on them though

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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then lemme see if I'm going crazy on D15

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Ripjaws V has a bump in the middle

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@viral nebula it's good pricing for US market, that's why I'm bringing it up

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hm 32mm stock on d15 without moving fan

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interesting

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📎 nh_d15_clearance_2016.png

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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okay, cos right now there's a $80 price differential lmao

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hm 32mm stock on d15 without moving fan
@hollow thorn yea, that's why I'm still considering D15 for Corsair LPX, depends if there's any good sales on either cooler, cooler prices are just weird in Canada...

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there was a $100 sale for DRP4 going but I missed out on that and it went out of stock, kicking myself for it

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D15 with AM4 bracket is $135 and DRP4 is $145~ish on amazon

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this will be my overall build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnmykX (except Zen3 in there and probably RDNA2)

System Builder

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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So the ripjaws v are too tall?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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yea

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Oof me

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:18 PM

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there's two ways you can circumvent that

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one is either by putting your cpu fans on the other end, so left-left not right-right, but that'd depend on your mobo clearance

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second way is by getting a smaller second fan

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:18 PM

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also a new motherboard

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as a third more expensive way

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:19 PM

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lmao

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 9:19 PM

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probably a new case too.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:19 PM

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probably a new life, better kms

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Well it’s too late to return the motherboard, drp4, and the ripjaws

deep quarry Nov 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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does anyone from newegg have any idea when the 3300x is gonna be back in stock?

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Well I may sound stupid here, but can you rotate the cooler by 90 degrees and mount the fan in a position where it blows the air upwards?

nocturne inlet Nov 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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oh i see yall chatting about the nh d15 and ram, i have that cooler and corsair lpx memory, had a weird issue with clearance but was able to resolve it by just having the second fan higher up

slow karma Nov 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I don't know if that is possible with that specific cooler.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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@nocturne inlet good to know, but with that might run into case clearance, depending on case

nocturne inlet Nov 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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yeah

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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even more reason for me to go DRP4 then

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cos I have a FD7 Compact

nocturne inlet Nov 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I have this case

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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B087CBP34Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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yea, that's a pretty massive case, wider than mine

nocturne inlet Nov 2, 2020, 9:24 PM

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i was pushing the limits with the cooler in this case, it is pretty close to the glass

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Oh wait the ripjaws don’t fit the d15? What about the drp4?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:25 PM

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ripjaws are 42mm, DRP4 are exact 42mm, so might be a bit too tight, that's why I went with Corsair LPX

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Hmm I’ll try it out

jaunty tree Nov 2, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Does anyone know what time the Ryzen 5900x will go on sale? I know it is Nov 5 but not the time.

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Depends on where you are

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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If its new egg its always at 12:00AM PST

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

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https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=137820&language=en I'm half-tempted to just run out now and get this before it gets out of stock because it's the lowest price I could find

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:37 PM

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only other canadians can follow that link

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:37 PM

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nah

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135cad drp4

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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oh wait if you click it select your language and then click it again it will take you there

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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lel

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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wait black friday then? I'm getting 5900X and 6800XT on launch date though

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I wouldnt wait

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I already bought https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-970-evo-plus-1tb/p/N82E16820147743?Item=N82E16820147743 and https://www.newegg.ca/seasonic-focus-plus-850-gold-ssr-850fx-850w/p/N82E16817151188?Item=N82E16817151188 though

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plus https://www.newegg.ca/black-fractal-design-define-7-compact-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352127?Item=N82E16811352127

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all running on sale

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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nice choices not my favorite case but thats personal pereference

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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yea, at this point the only components that I could save on are mobo and cpu cooler, cos cpu and gpu would be brand new, and I'm looking to get X570 Tomahawk

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I'm loving the case, it's amazing, I just like nice compact understated cases

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I like cases that let air in the front lol

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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was thinking this between the Meshify C, but then I found out that Meshify C has less GPU clearance

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as it's a shorter case

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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meshify are great cases tons of airflow

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it is really preference though

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not going to make or break the pc

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yea, for sure, what's really neat on the FD7 Compact though it's all tool less

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Right now I’m just waiting for 5900x and 6800xt

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I have everything else

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I'm still missing mobo and cpu cooler

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oh damn, nevermind, even cheaper here https://www.mikescomputershop.com/product/10507139

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right then, that's an instant buy

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I have the drp4 too

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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hey somethings wrong with my motherboard

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Same

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I really like this mobo though https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Item=9SIA9H5BTF4003 but it's too pricey

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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so like whenever my pc starts up right

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i lose internet connection

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but when i run a diagnostic

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it fixes itself itself

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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That’s a good looking mobo

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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and it always says like ethernet card misses ip configuration

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or something

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but it works

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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@naive pendant wifi card or lan connection?

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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i have it plugged in

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with a cable

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lan ig

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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windows 10?

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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yeah

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my motherboard is the asus prime b450m-a

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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using a router or straight from the modem?>

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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router

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I sadly already got my mobo, and it looks like it’s not the best

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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but the problem started when i installed my aio

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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is it DSL internet?

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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wdym

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we have fiber

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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ok

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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but i think i broke something

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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installing an aio shouldnt affect anything

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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yeah

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but maybe i like hit something

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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would have to hit it pretty hard

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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yeah i was really careful

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I think it has more to do with the router

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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really

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because it literally started happening when i was finished

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so like the pc at first wasn’t turning on right

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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first off I would make sure that if the pc has a wireless card in it that you disable that first

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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it doesn’t

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ok let me then what happened

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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what do mean wasnt turning on right

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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after i installed the aio

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the pc wasn’t turning on at first

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idk why

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so i turned it off with the power button

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and turned it on again

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and it still was black

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i re plugged the 24 pin

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and it turned on

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but i got an error

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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did fans start up during any of these first attempts

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yeah

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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just no display

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and then what was the error?

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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the little windows thing circle spinning thing was showing up

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when it didn’t turn on on

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but the error said something about turning off while booting i don’t really know what it said it was a few weeks ago

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ok so it was initializing new hardware and you turned it off during the boot phase as it said

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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but i don’t think this has anything to do with it but my mom helped me hold the backplate on while i was screwing and she held like in the middle of the backplate where there is a hole and you can see the capacitors or what it is and she was holding on that pretty hard

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I think its completely software related

balmy ledge Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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hello

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yeah but it took like 10 minutes so i thought something was wrong so i turned it off

balmy ledge Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yeah it probably is bro

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just buy 9 3090s and it will fix it

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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strange

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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So my best advice would be to reinstall windows

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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wait

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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@balmy ledge please take your trolling/jokes to #general-chat

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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will that wipe my ssd

balmy ledge Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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ok i will

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bye taking the jokes and trolling with me

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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no you can repair the install and save all the data

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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oh

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idk if there is any other problems too

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also after i run the diagnostic it says internet misses ip configuration

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or something like that

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 9:59 PM

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do you have a flash drive? repairing/reinstalling windows is pretty painless now

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yeah i have the one i used to install windows on

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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yeah I think some of windows file system got corrupted when you shut off mid initialization

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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it’s usb 3.0

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probably

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so like when i installed the windows 10 installation media there was this repair tool right

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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not a big deal though after a nice reinstall/repair you should be fine

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yep click on that

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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right

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alr thanks man

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i was like about to buy a new mobo

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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if it still persists after that message back and we can dig deeper

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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yeah man

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I highly doubt that you damaged the motherboard

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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yeah seems unlikely

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well imma go sleep now and try to fix the problem tomorrow

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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its also something that we could probably fix with hours of working on it but reinstalling/repairing windows will most likely also fix it much quicker

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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thanks i’ll try it tomorrow

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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k

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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bye

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Nilbo I think I got a bad mobo

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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why?

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Or rather not worth it

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Asus prime x570 pro

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I mean I'm not sure I would have paid $300+ for one but its still a decent board

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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There's a lot of boards out there that are good but cost too much for what they are

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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$300+?? What??

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I'm looking to get this board https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Item=9SIA9H5BTF4003 ...

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Oh CAD

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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well since new egg has the Asus prime x570 pro listed at $319.99 usd

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Oh what?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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oof

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yikes

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I got it for 200 usd

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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well then you are golden

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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The b450 tomahawk is the only one that is reasonably priced

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I wouldn't feel bad at all about paying $200 usd for one

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Okay sweet

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Even B550 tomahawk is nice but still costs too much for what you get

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I mean I wouldnt feel like a got a deal either thats just what its worth lol

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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it does, but arguably tomahawk has the nicest vrms, and very good feature set

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I looked at other boards and really like the tomahawk

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I don't believe in the VRM gods so that wouldnt be much of a selling point for me

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:12 PM

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neither of the Tomahawks are "reasonably priced" imo

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and no, its features set is not "nice"

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its very limited compared to cheaper boards

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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what would you suggest then

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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just about anything else

dusky pagoda Nov 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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A yt channel called robeytech got zen 3 and is doing benchmarks with a 3080 soon

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@dusky pagoda embargo on all testing is nov 5

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i'm trying to figure out if newegg canada will get ryzen 5000 on the 5th and at what time if they will lol i cant find anything about what retailers are even getting them in canada

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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most of them (most likely) @pliant jackal

dusky pagoda Nov 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Canada Computers

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:15 PM

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its very limited compared to cheaper boards
@gritty meadow get this then while it's on sale https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=151033 and pair it up with 5900X?

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:15 PM

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So the embargo on tests will lift once the thing actually releases, meaning we won’t be able to see tests before it’s sold out

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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if you live by the border you might save enough money to make the drive worth it. Some of my Canadian friends just made a trip down to pick up some Quest 2s that I ordered for them

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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hey, people accepted it when its from nvidia @silent sandal

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for multiple releases in a row

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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lol im a ferry from the border

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plus 2 hours drive

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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but what is most likely to happen is that the reviews will be out X hours before the sales embargo lifts

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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wouldnt it save you like $100 just in price difference

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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somebody please confirm if I should get https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=151033 over https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Item=9SIA9H5BTF4003 while it's still on sale and in stock

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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what model is the one from CC?

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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When does the embargo for the Radeon cards lift?
Cause I’m getting a 5900x anyways, but I’m currently between 3080 and 6800xt

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

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18th nov or something like that @silent sandal

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

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what model is the one from CC?
@gritty meadow oh sorry, forgot you can't see the link, so the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite is selling for $250 ($50 discount) over the X570 Tomahawk for $300

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeah and we just dont know enough about the 6800xt yet

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

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So same day as it releases, okay

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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getting the 5900X for either, then just waiting for 6800XT

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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that is the data we have "now" @silent sandal

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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The problem with that is I need to see the 6800xt before I get it over the 3080, but the 6800xt is gonna sell out fast

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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the problem is: the people that know when the embargo for the reviews lift. Are under embargo

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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lol

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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so. until AMD tells someone officially how it will be, we only have the nov 18 date

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nothing is strange about this btw.

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its 100% normal for the industry

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I’m brand new to pc tech, so idk what’s normal or not

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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and @viral nebula i would personally grab the Aorus

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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i am going for the 6800xt just for the reason im pairing to a 5000 cpu for the boost they can give together through the proprietary design

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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(when the choice is between those two boards that is)

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@pliant jackal I wouldnt count on that being worth much

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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yea, especially now with the sale going on, thanks, it already went out of stock at one store

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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:)

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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didnt they pair their own gpus with a 10700k during their tests

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

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still i dont use 4k or play many games but i plan on using it in rendering circumstances so it may actually pose a decent boost for me

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

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oh that is true for rendering and workstation tasks there could be a good boost

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

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main reason im getting the upgrades is i recently got into basic game design as a hobby

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

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yeah I was just thinking GAMING

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I just game, stream, and make video games. So idk what particularly is best

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

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yeah im happy with my current build for gaming at the level i play

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2600 with a 1070 oc

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plays most things on high with over 100fps

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but my gf loves vr

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will be interesting seeing how the new cpu with either rtx3080 or rx6800xt will do

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:24 PM

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my wife also loves VR she claimed the Index I have barely used it since we got it

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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lol nice i built her a pc last year just for her vr

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I don’t have a gf

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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but do you have VR?

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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went ryzen 2700x with rtx2070 24 gigs 3200 mhz ram

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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No I hate VR

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Gives me terrible headaches

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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could be why you dont have a girlfriend.... LOL just kidding

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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True

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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lol

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my gf collects consoles

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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nice, so this is my current parts list I ordered https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mDgTCz

System Builder

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just missing CPU and GPU...

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Its so weird seeing all these new builds missing CPUs and GPUs because of the new releases lol

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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lol ye but its also black friday month

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this time last year i was sale watching

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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My pc blew up a few months ago, so I’ve literally been stuck gaming on my SNES only

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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this year im waiting for pieces to just be available for sale

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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actually lots of hardware are on sale right now, plus newegg has black friday price protection on some components

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Cause everyone told me to wait for the new parts to build a new pc

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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your super nintendo still works?

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yep

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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my mom still has a working nes

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I’ve been speedrunning link to the past

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I also have an NES, but no way to connect it

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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same

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no idea if it works or not has a RAF connector or something like that

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

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used to have a gameboy emulator on my phone and played links awakening not long ago

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I also have a slight broken atari 2600 lol

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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ooh nice

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centipede?

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astroids?

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I have some sort of atari with like 100 games

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yep

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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also no tv to hook it up to

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i started with an atari and went nes snes then ps1 and ps2

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Is it one of the Atari reboot thingies?

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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used to love river raid though

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

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whats wrong with the 2600?

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

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frogger and centipede were my atari favs

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

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no mines original made out of wood

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not sure the model number though

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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My first “current” console was actually the ps2, but the first console I had was an SNES

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/techly-idata-spdif-6e2-s-video-stereo-audio-to-hdmi/p/N82E16812042007?item=N82E16812042007&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwordsca-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwordsca-pc-_-pla-_-audio+video+converters-_-N82E16812042007&gclid=CjwKCAiA-f78BRBbEiwATKRRBGizy0PCd-Mv2KbeZqSBj2kDmynVD81cqoIV_UfOQ9QUpxCdHxXgBhoCZRcQAvD_BwE

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rca to hdmi adaptor

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Man now I miss my ps2

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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composite*

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I’m sad now

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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and i wonder how well something like that would work

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usually they make old consoles look like crap

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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is this a 2600?

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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yeah

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2600 VCS

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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any writing that was on the bottom is gone

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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oh, like the atari sticker?

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with the model numbers n stuff

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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yep its a little beat up

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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People who were alive for the Atari’s. Good to know discord isn’t only used by kids

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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first thing i like to do is disassemble, clean, check caps, and test while disassembled

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I sure liked the nintendo a lot more when it came out

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some atari games were so terrible like a bad flash game that you paid for

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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yep

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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What do I need to do to get my hands on a 5900X on Thrisday?

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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$$$

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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A bot

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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you will know by wednesday

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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know what time they drop on your perspective buy location

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I have the money I've been saving up for months

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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tbh, I don't think Zen 3 will be nearly as bad as the 30 series launch was.

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Right but last launch the 3900x just sold out quick too

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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if doing it online I like to have 3 different browsers open and also be on your phone who knows which one will slip through first

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I'm thinking I'm not the only one willing to pick one up

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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yeah moores law is dead says theres a few million units available but does expect fairly quick sell outs

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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App + apple pay would probably be the best solution

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Gonna try myself, but not keeping my hopes up.

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Yeah I gotta do it all over again later this month for the 6800xt

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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How fast sell out? 10 seconds like nvidia or like a day or two?

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@pastel monolith Its R/F connector, and usually you can set it to work on channel 3 or channel 4

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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nvidia was like 1 second

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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i am only after the 5600x but will buy whatever is available when i try

fallen lynx Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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back in the days of full on analog TV signaling

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I think 5 minutes if the site doesn't crash again.

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I just got myself a spiffing ROG Strix x570-e gaming motherboard

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I was there for nvidia right when it opened for the 3080, I didn’t stand a chance

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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And a 2TB sabrent NVME

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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depends on how many cpu's they get allotted and also on if your lucky and they will back order when they run out

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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so basically come Wednesday, wait till midnight and spam refresh websites

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Can't wait to retire this old FX8350

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Hopefully AMD clarifies launch times on Wednesday.

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I'm running a 2400G, it's good enough to play games on min settings but it's frustrating to do so lol

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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You people have pcs?

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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PC2™️

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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No I'm running crysis on a famicon with a power glove

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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nice

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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All the power is in the glove

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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And a 2TB sabrent NVME
@modest ice tbh, I was thinking of getting a sabrent pcie4, but I saw people reporting failure rates and it's a new company so didn't want to risk it

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i had a power glove 😕

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I want a virtual boy

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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@viral nebula The trick it to back up regularly

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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went good ol' samsung, they actually have good sales in canada, despite cheaper alternatives

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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That sounds like real vr, not this fake new stuff

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I had a virtual boy too and that thing was awful

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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@viral nebula The trick it to back up regularly
@modest ice yea, but why would you risk a component fail like that, I do backups and all but still wouldn't want a dead chip

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I’ve used a virtual boy before. I still like the Wii U less

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I bought a Sabrent PCIE 3, there's no point in buying PCIE4 yet

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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hurt your eyes all red hurt your neck since you had to bend over to play

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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i have an oculus rift debating on a new quest but might go newer rift

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Does anyone know where the Ryzen 5000 series is gonna be sold

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I bought a Sabrent PCIE 3, there's no point in buying PCIE4 yet
@modest ice yea, pcie4 still too new, not close yet to theoretical max, that's why I'm getting X570 anyway for future compatibility

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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The real world performance delta between pcie3 vs 4 doesn't justify the cost

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Newegg and Micro Center of course. Best Buy and Amazon are probably up in the air. I can't remember if Amazon had Zen 2 stock on launch day.

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Newegg and Micro Center of course. Best Buy and Amazon are probably up in the air. I can't remember if Amazon had Zen 2 stock on launch day.
@meager perch thx

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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i did see on some tech site they had amazon listed

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yeah when I buy a 4TB or 8TB in the future it will be PCIE4 and econonmically sound

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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tbf, the 1st gen pcie4 ssds aren't all that special.

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The SN850 has made some nice improvements.

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'd buy the firecuda if it was 10 or 20$ more but not at 50%+ price premium

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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If RTX I/O/AMD equivalent/opensource equivalent actually becomes a thing, it'll probably be important to have faster PCIE4 drives.

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I got the firecuda on a sale

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I/O doesn't matter if it's pcie 3 or 4

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It depends on the controller. not the interface

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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[Tony Tamasi] There is no SSD speed requirement for RTX IO, but obviously, faster SSD’s such as the latest generation of Gen4 NVMe SSD’s will produce better results, meaning faster load times, and the ability for games to stream more data into the world dynamically. Some games may have minimum requirements for SSD performance in the future, but those would be determined by the game developers. RTX IO will accelerate SSD performance regardless of how fast it is, by reducing the CPU load required for I/O, and by enabling GPU-based decompression, allowing game assets to be stored in a compressed format and offloading potentially dozens of CPU cores from doing that work. Compression ratios are typically 2:1, so that would effectively amplify the read performance of any SSD by 2x.

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I wouldn’t have gotten the firecuda at regular price

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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So pretty much, wait to see what game devs actually do with it.

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Does anyone know if the Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 will be compatible with Zen 3

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yes somebody knows

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yes somebody knows
@modest ice oh cool thx

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Didn’t they say all x570 and b550s will work

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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oh well in that case im good

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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IF they have the correct bios update

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yeah youI'm looking on gigabyte site for you

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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thx

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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And certain 400 boards will get the bios update too right?

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Existing X570 boards will need a BIOS update, which most of them should already have an update available.

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

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well i would expect as the b550 is the newest of the am4 lineup they would be the first to support it

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@silent sandal not known yet

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Aka. not known which ones and when

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@lone oar Revision F10 and F11e of your bios support 5000 series

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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But some will eventually?

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@lone oar Revision F10 and F11e of your bios support 5000 series
@modest ice thx

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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that's what they say

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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suppossedly i have seen all 400's will and on another site only the 470's but its up to the board manufacturers to make the bios updates

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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hm?

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@pliant jackal this is what we have from AMD

📎 iu.png

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:55 PM

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but it also comes down to the boards makers to update their bios

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:55 PM

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that is what the picture says yes

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Wait a sec what is the best motherboard under 100 bucks?

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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for what

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am4?

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yeah

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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imo, b550m pro4

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95$

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I’ve noticed with the tech reports and such that a lot of what sites report on is a lot of speculation, and not a lot turn out to be fully true

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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ok i already have that one in my list lol

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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mhm

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we don't have anything certain other than "some will get it"

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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If you're buying a 5000 series you're going to want to fork extra for the x570

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The features are worth it IMO

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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nah

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Not so much last gen but this new gen has some nice innovations

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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like?

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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SAM

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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SAM?

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Yeah

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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AMD mentioned smart access memory works fine with b550

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Surface to Air Missiles?

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Rx6000 cards will be able to do memory voodoo

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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yes

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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RTX IO voodoo

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:D

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Oh I thought it was just 570 my bad

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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its mostly just extra pcie 4.0 lanes on the x570

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think it gets 2 to the b550's 1

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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it's basically just Extra pcie 4.0 lanes on the x570

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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man, I can't wait till I get 6800XT and fire up DCS World on max settings

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Wait so what is the best bang for buch motherboard for Zen 3

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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tell me anyone you know that would make use of PCIe 4.0 on anything other than PCIe_1 and M.2_1 :P

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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buck

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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B550m Pro4 imo

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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It's basically just ANY pcie 4.0

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

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95$, gets you ALC1200 with dual M.2 slots with NVMe

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decent enough VRMs

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:01 PM

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i'm pretty sure we will be 2 cpu's deep into the next platform before pcie4 can even be used to its capacity

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I'm guesstimating Q3 2021

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:02 PM

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might as well go all in on the PC now, we gonna quarantine till 2022 anyway

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Yeah I started brewing my own booze

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Now I don't need to get out for any reason other than groceries

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

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lol grew up on my dads shine

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twice distilled charcoal filtered cracked corn

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I stopped drinking booze 😦

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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ran the lawnmower

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i dont get drunk anymore but i enjoy the odd drink

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I made 6 gallons of hard cider

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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nice

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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And now I'm finishing primary fermentation on 11 gallons of mead

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And I also got 1 gallon of perry brewing from my pear tree harvest

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Zen 4/Alder Lake will be where we start actually seeing some change compared to the current platforms.

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If Intel doesn't pull out another + for Alder.

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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This winter I'm going to brew some skeeter pee/ lhard lemonade for the spring time and summer time

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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im curious if zen 4 will be am4+ or am5

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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And in the spring time I'm going to make dandelion wine

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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oh boyo, that all sounds really good

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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and i'll wait till 2nd gen before i buy into it

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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nah this is the last AM4 confirmed

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next chipset is something else

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Zen 3 is last AM4. Zen 4 will need a new socket for DDR5/PCIE5

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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meant in the naming scheme

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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so X570/B550 are deadend boards pretty much in terms of CPU upgrades, but what can you do

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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so what

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Intel same thing

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:06 PM

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they used to do a + after older versions and it was a different socket

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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tbf, both are dead platforms.

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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at least AMD carried us the last 3 years

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I'll probably wait a few generations after this one to upgrade

meager perch Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Technically, kaby lake ended up being a dead platform too.

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I'm prob going to grab 2nd gen on AM5

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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i will wait till 2nd gen so its not the buggy as hell first gen

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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yea always better to wait till the platform matures

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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i have been amd for over a decade now dont remember what the first chip was but 2nd was a phenom 2 then i went to this ryzen

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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tbh it's GPU upgrades every 2-3 years and CPU upgrades every 3-5 years

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I will build this amazing pc that I’m building now, then when it’s useless I’ll just get a laptop and a new console

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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lol

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I have X1C7 that's just collecting dust

dusky pagoda Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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??

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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lol consoles are trying to get phazed out with game streaming

dusky pagoda Nov 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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That makes no sense

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I will build this amazing pc that I’m building now, then when it’s useless I’ll just get a laptop and a new console

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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pay a sub and every screen is the console without a big box to move with

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just install the app and the game streams online to the screen

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I prefer the box

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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to quote Naed on console pricing

📎 unknown.png

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:)

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yea idk game streaming is still wonky

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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just to keep in mind

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Game streaming mega poopoo

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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and consoles sell at a loss and make the money back in subscriptions

midnight pollen Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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mmm

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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mhm

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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the last console that made sense to me was PS2

midnight pollen Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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switch best console imo

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yep then they went pay to play multiplayer

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Ps2 was literally the perfect console

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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and the wonderful phasing out of hotseat multiplayer

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I got 2tb of ram

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and an i9 15th gen

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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just to double every sale

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and get an extra sub

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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and an i9 15th gen
@naive pendant I have 20th

devout mothBOT Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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aidenhalo#6666 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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shoot

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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wait what

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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if the PC counts as a console i think its the best because I keep buying one every couple years to play games 😉

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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lol and up till this new generation a good pc can emulate any console

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I'm gonna try my hand at game development this time around

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Honestly though, this pc better last longer than a console

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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yea, I'mma emulate the heck out of PCSX2

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Cause spending a couple hundred every few years is a lot better than spending a couple thousand every few years

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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lol keep it well maintained and any good pc should last a decade

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Thoughts on a 50th gen i9?

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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hibernate for the next 100 years then ask the same question

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Aight thx

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Intel will be dead by then

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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it better be quantum by then

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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i will be dead

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the world will be dead hopefully

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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not unless they develop life extension drugs

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Amd will be the only tech company in existence

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Computer tech

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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depends on if arm really enters the pc space

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I have high hopes for ARM

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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arm could potentially kill amd for ppw

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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technically the moment Apple launches their first laptop with a arm chip, Arm is in the pc space

jovial kayak Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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do you know if ryzen 5000 is supported by the current AMD mobos

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Some

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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yeah but its architecture isnt as widely adapted as x86

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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there is a surface laptop thingy with an ARM already

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@jovial kayak b550/x570

chilly shore Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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as long as it has 400 or 500 chipset

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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ofc not @pliant jackal :)

chilly shore Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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400 with mobo update

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@chilly shore the 400 series is still ... iffy

jovial kayak Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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yea ive heard that

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Some 400 will eventually is what they said

jovial kayak Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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500 series is the best to go

gritty meadow Nov 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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we wont know until january for the 400 series

pastel monolith Nov 2, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I think a combination of ARM cpus and more complex cpus like what we have already is the future

silent sandal Nov 2, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Alright I gtg, it’s been great talking to all of you

pliant jackal Nov 2, 2020, 11:17 PM

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have a good one

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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welp, on that note, time to go back to work, nice chatting

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Work is 2 chairs over for me

viral nebula Nov 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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work is in the same chair for me

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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would getting a b450 + using amd loan be better than just getting a cheap mobo that works right out of the box?

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Right now I'm on hold so I go to my pewdiepie chair with my RGB keybaord and chit chat on discord XD

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When that tech does what I wanted him to do I'll go back to my office chair and troubleshoot

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Wireless headsets ftw

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:22 PM

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which is the best chip for ram memory?

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I'd say the ones used in the royals would be pretty good

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:23 PM

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b-die?

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:24 PM

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dont worry about dram architecture

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but yeah, b-die is straight poggers

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I want to find out which are the best chips

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I understand

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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F4-3200C16D-16GTRS appears to be using B-Die

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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one thing to note is that samsung doesnt actually make it anymore

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

r/Amd - Clearing up any Samsung B-Die confusion (e.g. on G.Skill Fl...

173 votes and 340 comments so far on Reddit

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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so all thats left is whats floating around in warehouses

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:26 PM

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and would getting a b450 + getting the amd loan be better than just getting a cheap mobo that works out of the box

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:26 PM

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the vast majority of b450 boards work with zen 2 already

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:27 PM

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for a 3600 though

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:27 PM

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3600 is zen 2

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:27 PM

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when i am on pcpp most b450 mobos say they are not compatible

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except for the max

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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thats because pcpp cant tell you if they are or not

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some are, some arent

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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oh really?

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oh so only some

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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yeah, any board built within the last year or so

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so any brand new b450 board will support it

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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welp..... pcpp cant help with that

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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and wherever you purchase the board, the listing will tell you

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yeah, so they just list the warning

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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okay

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thanks

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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why b450?

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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idk seems like a good choice

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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a520 boards exist

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and are cheap

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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and im on a budget obv

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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do you need wifi?

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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i have an a520 on my main list

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:30 PM

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or are you using ethernet

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:30 PM

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im planning on having a pcie adapter for it

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wifi

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theres no ethernet near the room where i will place it

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:30 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dmL2tp

System Builder

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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How do you share lists because when I do it says it’s blocked

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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surely you could go for a cheaper but same performance RAM

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@lone oar u gotta put it public

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Oh ok

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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either when u save it or in details

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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how much are you looking to spend on this system?

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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right now..

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800-900

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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that is the cheapest ram i would usually suggest

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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why so

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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oh, on that much, that is the cheapest ram i would suggest

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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3600c16

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On 3200c16 it's as cheap as ~55$

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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you lose actual performance the slower memory you get

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Do I just copy and paste the link

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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But on 3600c16 75$ is as good as it gets for 2x8gb

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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whereas paying more doesnt net you as much

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@lone oar u gotta put it public
@honest prism do j just copy and paste the link

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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something like this would be good

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmyV3C/

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yes

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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when it comes to distributing 800 dollars on components, 75 for ram is good

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Bruh

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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when it is public

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@honest prism no

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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its not worth the 15 dollars you save

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RebelRed528/saved/#view=fLqMbv is this good (ignore the funko pop and webcam)

Saved Part Lists

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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to hamper your 200 dollar cpu

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Team Vulcan bad ram
Not cheapest 3200c16 ram
It's not 3600c16 ram.

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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yes yes

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Frequency matters

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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okay

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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@lone oar that needs some work

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Like what

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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but will help in a sec, unless mr1 wants to

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Ok thx

naive pendant Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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HI

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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what do you think you will need in terms of storage

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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me?

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yeah

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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1tb u don’t really play heavy games

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I

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Not u

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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i would just want 1tb

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i just want it in 1 ssd only

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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512gb ssd is typical, then with a larger hdd

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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its just annoying to have it ssd+hdd

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yeah, but with only 800 dollars, you dont have the budget to go all ssd

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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512gb ssd is typical, then with a larger hdd
@main pulsar will it still be as fast as ssd

honest prism Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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and ive had bad experiences with most hard drives

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:37 PM

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especially when the inconvenience is minor, and the cost is much more

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as far as ssd capacity and pricing goes, i always suggest 512 minimum

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then you have to have a real good reason to get a 1tb ssd

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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But would hdd and ssd be as fast as just ssd

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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you would have 2 seperate drives

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ssd for os and programs

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hdd for games

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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anyways I can take a look after you make a list sassy

lone oar Nov 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Well I can upgrade more storage in the future if I need more space

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDhmP6/cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b311l-kgnn-s02

Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case

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thoughts on these cases?

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very cheap, comes with case fans

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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@main pulsar don't forget MX330-g air

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55$, 3 fans.

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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yeah but

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its ATX

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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never forget

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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theres nothing i hate more than putting mATX in ATX

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it just

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looks bad

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and is larger for no reason

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anyway

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nope

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there

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ugh

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wtf

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/866Mvf @honest prism

System Builder

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third times the charm

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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heh

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a520m...

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interesting

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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yeeeaaahhhh boi

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I never paid attention to form factors

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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lemme see if it can even do 3600mhz ram xD

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nor do I

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it doesn't look to weird imo

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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they can

modest ice Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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idgaf, as long as the mobo has the feautres I need it to have

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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the QVL for the a520 boards is actually pretty good

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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oh right

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2 mem slots

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that's why

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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that makes it even better

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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ye

main pulsar Nov 2, 2020, 11:47 PM

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probably should mention him

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so he sees it lol

lofty socket Nov 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Can anyone recommend an X570 board that has SLI support?

modest ice Nov 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I have the ROG Strick x570-E Gaming

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Supports SLI

main pulsar Nov 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

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why do you need SLI support

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that is the question

modest ice Nov 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

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2x PCIE 4.0 x16

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Some people are masochists

lofty socket Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I'm not running like 2090s in sli

main pulsar Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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then dont run sli at all

lofty socket Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I have 2 980s

modest ice Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Jeez this fish really is sssy

main pulsar Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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sell em lol

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you know it

lofty socket Nov 3, 2020, 12:03 AM

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but both my sony vegas workflow and my graphic design workflow can leverage sli

main pulsar Nov 3, 2020, 12:04 AM

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i see

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in that case, is your workload mainly gpu focused

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or are many cpu cores needed

lofty socket Nov 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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most of the adobe suite uses cpu and gpu in some capacity, but doubling the amount of cuda cores helps accelerate the program itself