#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 134

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:28 PM

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yes

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:28 PM

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what kind of jacks are at the front of the case

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are there 2 or just one

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:29 PM

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mic and headphones

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two

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:29 PM

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i assume you have gotten the same result with those

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:29 PM

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yep

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

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go back to the recording tab and right click the default mic

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go to properties

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then click the levels tab

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

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ok

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

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make sure its at 100%

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

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yep

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:31 PM

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i highly doubt both of your mics are dead

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:31 PM

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same

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:31 PM

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that would leave the issue between the jacks themselves to the physical audio device on the board

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because i assume, with a generic windows driver, there is no extra software or configurations messing with the device

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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yes

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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and considering you have reinstalled windows, only to get the same result

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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yes

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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the issue isnt configuration or driver related

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open your case, check the audio section of the motherboard

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its the area where the audio jacks are, down to the bottom of the board

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look for anything that could look like damage

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:33 PM

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i dont see anything that appears to be damged

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damaged

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:33 PM

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give the capacitors near the bottom of the board a little wiggle

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they cant shock you if the system is on rn

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just touch the top, see if any are more loose than the others

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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they seem fine

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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do you see 9 of them?

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yep

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all 9

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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do you see the really small one above the audio chip?

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yes

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:35 PM

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is it loose at all?

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:35 PM

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no

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:35 PM

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sounds to me like either a partly dead audio chip, or a motherboard trace has been messed up somehow

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:36 PM

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So what do you suggest I do

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:37 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-xonar-se/p/N82E16829132086

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42 is kinda alot for just a mic tho

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https://www.newegg.com/creative-sound-blaster-play-3/p/N82E16829102100

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this would be better

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well, not better, but cheaper

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Ok

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So a sound card would solve the issue most likely

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Or the interface thing

main pulsar Oct 25, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah

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heres a cheap ebay sound card

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-PCI-E-5-1-Ch-6-Channel-CMI8738-Audio-3D-Digital-Sound-Card-Adapter/293776145797 @slow kernel

eBay

PCI Express PCI-E 5.1 Ch 6 Channel CMI8738 Audio 3D Digital Sound C...

(Unless specifically listed otherwise). Drivers not included unless specifically listed.

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this ones cheaper and black

slow kernel Oct 25, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Ok

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Thank you for your help

peak sail Oct 25, 2020, 9:51 PM

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should I be happy my 3600XT only runs at 4ghz on air?

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Hello guys, I need help

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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then ask, and if someone has the time/desire/knowledge to help, they will answer :)

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I bought this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-003D-00042?Item=9SIAGSHBPR3282 and installed it and everything works fine

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EXCEPT my cpu fan is always on 100% speed and I can't control it and motherboard doesnt seem to detect it

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I'm thinking it might be an outdated BIOS but I'm not sure how to find the right BIOS file to flash it, considering its an unknown manufacturer

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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a inline voltage controller for the fan could fix it for you

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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ooh

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/noctua-na-fc1/p/1W8-001X-00014 <- something like that one

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but there are many others

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but generally, its because the fan header you are using is going full tilt.

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so you could also try and just change header

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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what do you mean going full tilt

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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for some reason, the header you are connected to is sending a "run at full speed" signal to the fan

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I tried this same cpu heatskin/fan on a different mb just yesterday and it worked fine

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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see above

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:50 PM

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so would you say its a faulty mb then?

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:50 PM

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it could be

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could also just be how they have designed it

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if we dont have a manual for it, we dont know.

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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so if I had a fan controller, would I still plug the fan in the cpu fan header?

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on the mb

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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yes, its a controller you put in between

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but how long have you had that mainboard?

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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or maybe I'll just return this mb and get a different one

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received it today

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

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have a chat with newegg

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and tell them to kindly receive in the post the fairly "words not intended for human ears" mainboard back

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and then please buy something that actually has a name :)

dreamy dragon Oct 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

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lol

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what if I tried to update BIOS, would there be a workaround?

gritty meadow Oct 25, 2020, 11:07 PM

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again

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no manual

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is there any particular reason you selected this mainboard in the first place @dreamy dragon ?

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Is it a 4 pin or 3 pin fan?

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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check the link earlier @fallen lynx for the mainboard

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you could have a "perfect" fan and we would not be able to tell anything, because no specs, no nothing

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I looked but it's hard to tell if the mb has 3pin or 4 pin fan headers. If he only has 3 pin fans they will run at 100% and that would be normal

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Unless he said they were pwm fans and I missed it

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 12:45 AM

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bios does not react to things was his take too

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and as he said, tested in other board, worked fine (not 100%)

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Hello, I need some product performance matching help. Is that something anyone can help me with?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:33 AM

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@proud folio what exactly do you need?

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Robert Thornton simianmoonstudios@gmail.com
I purchased a pair of G.Skill RAM DIMMS through Newegg a couple of years ago for a PC I built.

I recently purchased an additional pair of matching DIMMs to upgrade from 32GB to 64GB total. Unfortunately, the heat-sink radiator and fan for the CPU is too large and overhangs above one of the memory slots for the RAM DIMM. The issue is the 'heat spreader' on the DIMM of RAM is too tall. If I can purchase a pair of RAM DIMMs without heat spreaders, they will fit underneath the CPU heat-sink radiator and fan.

The RAM I purchased is: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15D-32GVR

Can you help me match the exact performance that RAM has with sticks that do not have heat spreaders?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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What CPU cooler is it?

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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That I do not remember or have access to at this time.

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Because it's likely you'll be looking for something more like this, with a shorter heat spreader:

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proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Am I able to post pictures here?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Not until level 3, but you could DM me if you want.

midnight pollen Oct 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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#roles

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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No need providing you know the specs of the RAM I need to match.

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Those Aegis sticks look short enough to fit, yes. Do you have model numbers you can provide?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Here's the link to a kit of 2x16gb 3000c16.
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232418

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Now that I think about it, I don't even remember if aegis had a heatsink or if it was just a sticker... Oh well, they're decent.

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Ha! "decent or good? lol

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Well, good specs, and heat spreaders don't really matter for lower speed ram modules, so they're good, but don't expect much more than some bare-bones sticks.

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Honestly, the more I look at aegis sticks, the more I think it's just a sticker and not a heat spreader...

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:43 AM

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the ones I originally purchased are considered lower speed ram modules?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Quite slow, relative to what is more mainstream.

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:44 AM

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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series is considered slow now?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 1:44 AM

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For example, 3200mhz is more or less standard nowadays, although no guarantees of 3200mhz being supported on older platforms. But I don't believe they really heat up and need a heat spreader until around 3600mhz or above.

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Well, the "lineup" of sticks is still fine, I'm talking about the specs on the sticks themselves :)

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Since you said 2400mhz c15 sticks at first.

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Anyways, before I make you stray too far off topic, what motherboard and CPU do you have?

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 1:54 AM

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@hollow thorn sadly i use those in the kids pc's

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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sorry for the wait.

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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you could also replace your CPU cooler to one that will accomodate taller RAM

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I use Team Group DDR4 myself and

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never had a cooler/ram space issue, even swapped in a large Wraith Prism because I have a few laying around

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 1:58 AM

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My Motherboard is ASUS ROG Maximus X Code

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CPU is Intel Core i7-8700k CPU @ 3.70GHz

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Thats a gorgeous mobo, but I am a Asus fanboy so don't take me too seriously

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:01 AM

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@peak sail - if you have nothing productive to offer, I don't need to know I am using sad stuff you put in your kid's computers, thanks

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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damn dude

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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@proud folio why trouble yourself

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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@hollow thorn Sorry for the delay, it took me longer to look them up than I thought.

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:03 AM

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nothing sad about functional pc

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easy to settle

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this is what I purchased for my own use Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory (FOR AMD) Model TDZAD416G3600HC18JDC01

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hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Hey, I'm back

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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should be a affordable intel variant

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@proud folio What ram do you already have?

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I personal messaged you.... or atleast I thought I did

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Yea you did.

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I was just gone for a bit

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So one thing about "mixing" ram, you can only run them as fast as the slowest sticks.

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:08 AM

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May we continue there so we can have uninterrupted help by others who don't know the issue?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:08 AM

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So if you had 2 sticks of 3600mhz and 2 sticks of 3200mhz ram, it can only run at 3200mhz for all of them.

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Eh, people are trying to help, it's the intent that counts :)

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@peak sail FYI, that is going to interfere with a NH-D15, no doubt about it

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@hollow thorn I am not a villian unless your intent is to make me one

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I can only handle on conversation at a time.

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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If you get an asymmetrical CPU cooler, like a shadow rock 3 or Mugen 5 you don't have to worry about RAM compatibility

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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8one

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*one

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:10 AM

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My advice and experience is as good as anyone here

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I was talking about this part.

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I have a D15, I'd know. It has very little clearance under the second fan for ram.

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I've looked at ram height and clearances before, sticks with anything sticking up will not fit.

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Including Ripjaw Vs

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they won't fit with the second fan intalled in standard positioning.

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Also, mismatched memory can be problematic sometimes, even if you match the speeds/timings

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:11 AM

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So I'm just saying while it might not interfere with your cooler, it very much can interfere with other people's coolers :)

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I have more issue with top mounted radiators, ie fans than cpu coolers/ram sticks so I tried to visualize it by examining the mobo itself.

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I have to remember that high TDP Intel Cpu cooler tend to get a little chunky.

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Most tower coolers need to have notches cut out of the fins to accomodate taller RAM

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unless you have an asymmetrical one which keeps everything to the side so nothing is actually directly over the RAM

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Mr1111 was able to help. Problem solved. Thanks to everyone

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 2:46 AM

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@proud folio thank you for sticking around and not being driving out by the local ... trolls

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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@gritty meadow well, is this a chat room for useless banter or a customer service forum for Newegg?

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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neither actually

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its a server for people that try to help

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none of us are paid

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heck, i have never once in my life shopped at newegg

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Newegg seems to think it is. That's what they said when they directed me here.

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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yeah, we have a bit of a debate going about that :)

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Ha!

midnight pollen Oct 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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ya this place really just for people that like tech to hang out and help others, there is someone to dm for newegg order concerns tho. it is interesting we see quite a few people directed here from cust support

peak sail Oct 26, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Oddly I am only here because I am a decade old Newegg customer who happens to be a techie and small business owner

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In short I am moving between various interest channels from tech, gaming, to media to pass the time.

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 4:41 AM

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@peak sail I apologize for being short with you earlier. All of the steps that lead me here were all negative ones, so by the time I finally got here, I wasn't in the mood for chit chat or anything remotely negative related to my situation. The perspective I was coming from at the time was being told by Newegg; Discord, is in fact part of Newegg's customer support team.

proud folio Oct 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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@hollow thorn @gritty meadow - Thank you both for the mindful and direct help you gave me. I appreciate your time. Cheers

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 5:05 AM

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you are very welcome :)

sturdy steeple Oct 26, 2020, 9:43 AM

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is my i7 6700k enough to play doom eternal with gtx 1080?

trim geyser Oct 26, 2020, 10:45 AM

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depends on resolution @sturdy steeple

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on 1080p you can get 60 fps easily with maxed out settings

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1440p, you might get 60 fps if you tone down a few

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and 4k no

sturdy steeple Oct 26, 2020, 12:04 PM

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well then lets go, cuz my mobile gtx 1060 3gb had everything else max ettings but texture on low at 1080p and got stable 60 fps so then gtx 1080 will be bale with same settings but medium texture to achive 100fps or more?

trail quarry Oct 26, 2020, 2:04 PM

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is there any particular reason why people reccommend 3600mhz for amd specifically?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yes

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good perf gain over 3200mhz

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~5%

trail quarry Oct 26, 2020, 2:14 PM

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is there significant improv of 3600mhz c18 over 3200mhz c16

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Yes, because Infinity Fabric depends on frequency, and that's what drives most of the perf increase from 3200 to 3600mhz

trail quarry Oct 26, 2020, 2:16 PM

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ahhh thanks

mellow crag Oct 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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i am so pumped for the new amd cpu's

fluid gorge Oct 26, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Should I wait and buy one of the new ryzen 5 5000 series?

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orr buy a ryzen 7 3600x ?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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always wait whenever possible

fluid gorge Oct 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Is it worth it

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It's cheaper by a small amount

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the ryzen 5

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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always wait whenever possible

fallen lynx Oct 26, 2020, 3:38 PM

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this close to launch its best to wait and see what the benchmarks say

fluid gorge Oct 26, 2020, 3:41 PM

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makes sense

errant hinge Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I have a HP Pavillion 510-p030 with 12 GB Ram

Looking to upgrade

Thinking about

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-32GVK

any suggestions?

magic cedar Oct 26, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Get the 3600mhz version and ur good to go

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:31 PM

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any recommendations for a B550 mobo with:

ALC1200 codec
3733MHz/3800MHz RAM support
ATX only
VRMs good enough for 150A core current (high airflow case)
at least 1 SATA port on the bottom of the board
2 12V RGB headers and 1 5V ARGB header
WiFi, onboard RGB not needed but not opposed

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:32 PM

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what do you mean bottom of the board?

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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like physically on the bottom edge

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some mobos i looked at only have sata on the right edge

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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huh

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@stiff kraken well look into the b550 velocita either way

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should meet the requirements

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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i have one hard drive, would like to connect to the bottom edge for better looking cables

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looks a bit garish can all of the onboard rgb change to white?

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there is no sata port on the bottom edge

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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thing is

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I actually don't know of any mobos that has bottom edge sata ports lol

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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was looking at b550 pro4 first, but no sata port on bottom edge

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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no joke

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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b550 aorus elite does

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my current b450 tomahawk max does

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I've never seen it

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i'm not sure how important it is for the mobo to specifically list support for 3733/3800

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this one lists 3600, 4000, and 4400

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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really isn't

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anyways

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velocita just has a great feature set

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it's just going to be my go-to high end b550 board suggestion unless I want to look deeper

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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my current mobo lists 3733 and 3866, 3733 is perfectly stable and 3800 crashes after 6 hours, but unsure if that's mobo or cpu imc

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yeah i like it except for no sata port on bottom

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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which is a really weird thing that I didn't even know existed before lel

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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if i had a black case i wouldn't care as much but i have a white case so it's a deal breaker

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it might be less common but there are well known boards out there with them

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gigabyte b550 aorus elite meets every requirement except explicitly stated support for 3733/3800 ram, you think it would be fine anyways?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I'm gonna look for moar

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Look at asus X570-p actually

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that might work

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and X570-plus

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those have all the requirements, except too lazy to check vrm specs

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this is what you're looking for right

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stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I only need about 80A core current right now for a 3600X, would just like to have upgrade headroom later on

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I'll leave you to that

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:49 PM

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this one also doesn't state 3733/3800 ram compatibility

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:49 PM

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one sec

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:50 PM

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although i found an independent review stating they got 3733mhz stable on it

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so i guess explicitly stated compatibility is not a big deal as long as you're not trying to run above the highest stated?

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@hollow thorn if you want to go to the proper channel to show me the recommendations and not flood the case and psu channel

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@vast granite Aorus Elite Wifi seems to have everything you wanted other than the 2 heatsink thing
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WL5MFXL

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lemme see the differences between tomahawk and the elite wifi rq

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 8:55 PM

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this was my secondary the only difference i know besides that is it only has an 8 pin for the cpu power

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:55 PM

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hm worse wifi

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more usb ports but no usb-c rear io

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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i'm thinking about getting the b550 aorus elite then tbh

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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seems worse vrms

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@stiff kraken yea probably, the bottom of the board SATA port thing was interesting

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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mhm, never seen/noticed em before

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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vs a build i did with b550 pro4

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vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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oh thats a nice placement for that

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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you can probably see why i would prefer it on the bottom

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I don't really care about just a sata plug hangin yaknow

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but eh

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I'm a perf guy

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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if i paid for custom white cables i'm not tryina have black sata and usb 3 cable next to them

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@hollow thorn appreciate the aid though I will be on the look out and look at other boards im not dead set on anyone

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@vast granite another option, also has 2x m.2 heatsinks
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BWZGSHB

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should be similar VRMs, and same wifi to the tomahawk

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and X570 usually doesn't offer more than B550 for most people.

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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just a minor loss in the extra pcie gen 4

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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b550 is 20 pcie 4 lanes right?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I mean, not many people uses gen 4 slots :P

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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exactly minor loss

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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x16 gpu and x4 ssd?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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@stiff kraken it's all 20 CPU lanes are PCIe 4.0, chipset lanes are 3.0

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wait I'm trying to think

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ick

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stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:01 PM

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yeah so the cpu can do x16 gpu and x4 ssd

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and then x570 is for multiple gen4 ssds?

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:01 PM

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yea

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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so i don't need x570 for sure

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I guess in that case of considering a b550 there is the https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk/p/N82E16813144326?Description=b550 tomahawk&cm_re=b550_tomahawk-_-13-144-326-_-Product&quicklink=true

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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hmm

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if i buy b550 aorus elite it arrives tomorrow

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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just would put out the extra money on a wifi card for myself nvm loses the 4 pin for cpu power

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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and it's only $150

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:03 PM

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wait

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I think B550 tomahawk is missing one of the things you wanted

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wasn't showing up on my filtered view

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yeah i just saw the top left cuz amazon had bad pics

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:03 PM

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what do you need 12 pin cpu power for

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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oh right

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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8 pin cpu power is enough to power 2 3950X overclocked synthetic load

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:d

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I had wifi selected in my filter

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I wanna dabble in overclocking

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@stiff kraken ln2

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:P

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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hmm

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i kind of doubt ryzen needs 12 pins even on ln2

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but fair enough

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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and from what ive read having the extra 4 helps

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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also I think it's more like single 3950x overclocked synthetic load on dice/chilled

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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142W PPT

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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so then is the 8 and 4 pin over kill then

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:05 PM

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not aio lmao, typo

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I just thought bryce with the aio rad in a bucket of ice

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:05 PM

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apparently 8 pin supplies 288W continuously

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:05 PM

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@vast granite if you're planning on Ocing anything below a 3950x/5950x, yea basically

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@stiff kraken tbh I'd stick to the 150w standard

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plus the slot power

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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i don't think 3950X would even hit 288W on LN2

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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like 288w through the connector sounds like melting to me :P

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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alright noted then and I may just go with that gigabyte board

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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meh

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I have no interest in XOC so my opinion is probably irrelevant anyways

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:07 PM

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even just 150w connector plus (dunno really,) 75w slot power

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that's a lot of OCing to get to

vast granite Oct 26, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I am glad I joined this server its great to learn about these things from people where it makes more sense than some articles

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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i'm gonna bite the bullet and buy this b550 aorus elite

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will be able to recoup most of the cost selling my b450 tomahawk max anyways

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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mm

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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just put it in a flip build lol

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does cpu socket provide 75W?

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i know pcie slot does

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but idk about socket

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yea I dunno

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24pin gotta power something

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I just guess same thing as pcie slot

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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24pin powers everything on the board no?

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but i'd assume some of it goes to cpu too

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just not sure how much

hollow thorn Oct 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yea that's what I'm saying

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:11 PM

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hmm

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now i'm thinking

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should i upgrade board now or upgrade it along with a 5600X and AIO and keep the B450 tomahawk max + 3600X + CM 212 as a set

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less work for me

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then again do i really need to upgrade a 3600X for 1440p

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i feel like no

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but i'm also not short on money for it

gritty meadow Oct 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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"now i'm thinking" <- be very careful you might end up with answers

stiff kraken Oct 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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02think

naive pendant Oct 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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can someone tell me why when i set my 3600 mhz ram to its xmp profile reboot to windows, my pc reboots 3 times posts and then my ram isnt set to 3600

green terrace Oct 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Does your motherboard support that speed?

naive pendant Oct 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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yeah

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i have an msi b450 tomahwak max

green terrace Oct 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Did you try running at 3200 first?

naive pendant Oct 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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umm no i havent, how do i set it to that, the only xmp profiles i have are 3600

green terrace Oct 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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That's odd

naive pendant Oct 26, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah a lil bit

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maybe its my cpu?

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i have a ryzen 3 3200g

hollow cobalt Oct 26, 2020, 11:29 PM

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ever have an rgb strip kill a pcie slot or is that just me

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pepesquid

naive pendant Oct 26, 2020, 11:33 PM

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No I dont have any

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Damn that happen to u

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That's tuff

coarse patrol Oct 27, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Is the Msi B450M Pro-Vdh Max a good board for a ryzen 3 3100

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Hey am I ignorant or what

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📎 unknown.png

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The ** Says PCI_E4 will be unavailable when an M2 is installed in the M2_2 slot

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does this mean that I wont get PCIE 4.0?

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if I have 2 M.2 Drives?

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this is the motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550m-mortar-wifi/p/N82E16813144327

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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no, not quite

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@prisma river lets walk through it :)

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count the number of PCI-E slots on the board please

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how many do you see?

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:31 AM

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oh wait I see it

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its the 4th PciE slot

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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yes, and what happens to that?

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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it dies if I use two m.2 drives

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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not dies, its disabled.

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big difference :)

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I'll prob never use that slot so its no big deal

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does this mean that both my M.2 slots support PCIE4?

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cuz if SO

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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look at your board specs on the manufacturers site

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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anyone wanna buy a Sabrent M.2? lol

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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NEVER trust a vendors information

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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yeah clearly I shouldn't have

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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pci-e 4.0 for ssd's is quite overrated imo

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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∙ 2x M.2 slots (Key M)
▪ M2_1 slot (from AMD processor)
▫ Supports PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x4 *
▫ Supports SATA 6Gb/s
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices
▪ M2_2 slot (from AMD B550 chipset)
▫ Supports PCIe 3.0x4
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices

The supported specification depends on installed processor.

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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but if you think it matters a lot to you, have at it

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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damn so only 1 supports PCIe4

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I already put my OS on this drive so

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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it does not matter one bit, as i said above

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and a pci-e 4.0 drive can work perfectly fine in a 3.0 slot

neat perch Oct 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Everyone can give me a comment on MSI MEG Z490 UNIFY ATX LGA1200 Motherboard?

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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but I wont get the F U L L S P E E D

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its still probably not that big of a deal

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but its good to know

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thanks Naed

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:37 AM

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the only place you will see a difference? is IF you run a benchmark

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blink and you will miss the potential benefit that might, maybe, sometimes show up

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and you are welcome

prisma river Oct 27, 2020, 12:40 AM

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what I dont understand is how come benchmarks dont always equal real life performance?

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is there a bottleneck there going on?

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 12:41 AM

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what do you "do" when a benchmark runs?

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 1:17 AM

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because benchmarks aren't real life

mild jackal Oct 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Benchmarks measure what they were designed to measure

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Pick a benchmark that represents your use case

dense pier Oct 27, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Someone help

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XTU is greyed out, the part where you lower and higher the voltage (undervolting)

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Before I resetted my PC it was working and not greyed out

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after resetting I am unable to, its greyed out. I updated my BIOS

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still nothing

dense pier Oct 27, 2020, 2:50 AM

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nvm throttlestop works

burnt notch Oct 27, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Ryzen 7 3800x for $250 good?

lethal glacier Oct 27, 2020, 5:52 AM

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used?

burnt notch Oct 27, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Do CPUs go bad? If it’s not the pins?

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Cause I recently bought a used one but I can’t test it yet

charred venture Oct 27, 2020, 6:34 AM

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📎 image.png

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unless its like that high chance its fine

burnt notch Oct 27, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Alright. It’s amd so Ik ab the pins and stuff just idk ab the rest

naive pendant Oct 27, 2020, 7:56 AM

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G.SKILL 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL16 Trident Z 16 16 16 36 or Crucial 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL16 Ballistix 16 18 18 38

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is this a good ram

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for ryzen 7 3700x for example

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 10:02 AM

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yes

split wasp Oct 27, 2020, 10:05 AM

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what cpu is the best for gaming

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 10:06 AM

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yes

naive pendant Oct 27, 2020, 10:34 AM

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bruh

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which i asked which one is better

proper lava Oct 27, 2020, 10:53 AM

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They look like they're exactly the same but I'm planning on getting the Crucial Ballistix one

fluid gorge Oct 27, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@split wasp Ryzen i think is better for gaming but I'm still wondering if I should wait and buy a ryzen 5 5600x og ryzen 7 3600x

naive pendant Oct 27, 2020, 11:05 AM

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@proper lava they arent

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timings are different

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16 16 16 36 is expensive

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but is it worthy buying for 7 3700x

neat estuary Oct 27, 2020, 12:23 PM

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No. it is overclocking ram. compared to the 16-19-19-19-39 timings the difference out of the box will be very small. like 2%. you dont pay for b-die unless you plan to overclock it

hollow thorn Oct 27, 2020, 12:25 PM

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You shouldn't pay for b die.

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@naive pendant I'd grab the crucial

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e die ain't no b die but it's still good

hollow nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 12:37 PM

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What brand is better for gaming intel or amd

rugged sierra Oct 27, 2020, 12:46 PM

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technically intel but there is very little difference anymore

viral junco Oct 27, 2020, 1:02 PM

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if you bend a pin on a amd cpu is it possible to actually repair the dead cpu some how

midnight pollen Oct 27, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Possible maybe, ive seen some try to bend pinds back in place or replace pins but i wouldnt exactly recommend it, very tricky and has chance of ruining the board as well

neat estuary Oct 27, 2020, 3:27 PM

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If you did it to your own then a attempt at repairing it is worth it. Use a razor blade and be very careful. Their is a high chance of success if it’s just a single pin or two @viral junco

viral junco Oct 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Ok

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Does anyone know and 2x8gb DDr3 ram?

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But less or the same of 0.30 inches in height

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My cpu cooling fan literally blocks most of my ram space and makes it so my ram has to be small in height

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or is that height of ram just not possible anymore to come by

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 3:58 PM

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0.3 inches?

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 3:58 PM

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yea

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 3:59 PM

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i don't think any RAM was ever that tall

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0.3 inches is approx the height of the DIMM slots

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:00 PM

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ooooh

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:00 PM

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what CPU cooler do you have

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:00 PM

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that might be why

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i have no idea

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:01 PM

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what MB?

peak sail Oct 27, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Ballistix Sport is pretty low profile

📎 20-148-539-02.png

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I have sk hynix ddr3 4x2gb 1333 mhz ram

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I saw it was 0.3 inches but that might have been talking about the dimm slots

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:02 PM

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those are way bigger than 0.3 inches

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its probably between 30 and 40mm

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I just cant find any ram with my part number

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I see other hynix ram with the part number in name

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but I cant find mine

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wait nevermind

peak sail Oct 27, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Series Ballistix LT Sport
Fan included No
Height 32.5 mm / 1.28 inch
Warranty Limited Lifetime
Features Intel XMP 2.0 (Extreme Memory file) Ready

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I'm checking my ram height right now I found my ram

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Genuine Hynix HMT325U6CFR8C-H9 Computer Memory 2GB 1Rx8 PC3-10600 497157-D88

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its thhat on the newegg website

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its just i cant find the dimensions of my ram

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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https://smile.amazon.com/Hynix-HMT325U6CFR8C-H9-Computer-PC3-10600-497157-D88/dp/B016KVUD3G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=HMT325U6CFR8C-H9&qid=1603814751&sr=8-2

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:08 PM

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7.91 x 3.9 x 0.47 inches

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thats the dimensions of my ram

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:09 PM

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0.47 is going to be the thickness

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:09 PM

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What would be my height

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Like how far would it stick out

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:10 PM

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also, thats the package, not the RAM itself

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:10 PM

#

oh

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:11 PM

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you need a different CPU cooler that doesn't block your slots

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what CPU cooler do you have now?

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I dont know right now

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I dont know where the serial number is located

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I could take a picture of it

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If that would help you

fallen lynx Oct 27, 2020, 4:12 PM

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probably

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:16 PM

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its not like blocking it as I couldnt put ram in the slot

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its blocking it like I need to remove the cooler and put ram in

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then put it back on

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@fallen lynx pics in dms tell me if you need more pics

thorn falcon Oct 27, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I had to temporarily take out the graphics card for an rma on my pc and am currently running on the integrated graphics. What all should I be able to run without the card?

loud sinew Oct 27, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I might've been over exaggerating now that I think about it

#

I've never seen back there but now it looks like I have alot more space

worn pumice Oct 27, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Anyone able to help confirm this memory is compatible with my Dell PowerEdge T130 server?

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https://www.newegg.com/p/0RN-0005-00633

worn pumice Oct 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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This thing on?

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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people only answer if they want to :)

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@worn pumice let me guess that newegg customer service told you to come here for customer service help?

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and for me to answer your question: are you currently using RDIMM or UDIMM modules in the machine?

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scratch that, my memory is slow today

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according to the spec sheet from Dell, your system has a max support of 64gigs

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and it does NOT support RDIMM

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only UDIMM/DIMM

worn pumice Oct 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Lol yep

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Ahh ok I think that was my trouble before

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I tried to match up all specs, but I think I purchased RDIMM instead of UDIMM

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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aye

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2sec

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"Lol yep" <- that in regards to the customer service?

worn pumice Oct 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

ya

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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okay :)

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and yes, RDIMM do not work in UDIMM only boards

#

so, as long as you get the right type, everything should work just fine :)

worn pumice Oct 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Ok cool thanks a lot for your help!

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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you are very welcome :)

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best of luck with the swap :)

fluid gorge Oct 27, 2020, 7:23 PM

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What Cpu should i buy

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I know the new ryzen 5000 i laucnhing

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but I dont know if a r7 3700x is better than a r5 5600x

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 7:24 PM

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wait for reviews

fluid gorge Oct 27, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Will probably also wait for the benchmarks but should i get a different motherboard

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I'm gonna buy a whole pc

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Don't know if the Mobo can suppor tthe new 5000

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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any b550/x570 can

fluid gorge Oct 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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and if you are buying new now, it makes no sense to buy any other board

fluid gorge Oct 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Was gonna buy asus 550-f

grim hornet Oct 27, 2020, 8:40 PM

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16 gb ddr4-3600 cl16 or 32 gb ddr4-3600 cl18 ?

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 8:41 PM

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personally i would go 32gig, but that is because i can use the ram

#

your choice

grim hornet Oct 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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What is the diffence between cl16 and cl18, i mean is there a big difference?

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 8:44 PM

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a bit of speed

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:35 PM

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alright so i recently bought a used Dell Optiplex 390 with a i3 2100 in it and opened it up and i wanna buy a new case for it but i cant figure out if the motherboard for it is a ATX or micro ATX board can someone help me out with this

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@hidden spoke got a picture of the board?

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yeah let me get it

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:36 PM

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because there are different 390 models (in different form factors) :)

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

📎 20201027_173739.jpg

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:39 PM

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hm

#

the main problem would be the holes in the board

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:40 PM

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so.. would it fit into something like this?

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353096

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📎 11-353-096-11.png

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:41 PM

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Comparison_ATX_µATX_DTX_ITX_mini-DTX.svg

#

try and compare that to the actual placement of screws in your mainboard

#

(the black dots on the drawing is the holes/screws in your mainboard)

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:44 PM

#

📎 20201027_174353.jpg

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i marked were the screws are and the thing is like 9. something by 9. something so yes? or am i s pe d

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:47 PM

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keep in mind, the following is NOT your particular board

#

📎 unknown.png

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it is however a board from a 390 machine

#

notice the red circle?

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:48 PM

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yeah

gritty meadow Oct 27, 2020, 9:49 PM

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try and find anything on the layout picture that actually lines up with that :)

#

reason i point this out is that Dell are notorious for doing weird BS like that

#

so, i would strongly recommend double and triple checking with the schematic from the earlier link :)

#

the good news is this:

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IF things align with that schematic. then yes, you can order just about any mATX or bigger case :)

hidden spoke Oct 27, 2020, 9:51 PM

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alright so the board is 9.6 by 9.6 and i think the bottom/side match

hollow thorn Oct 27, 2020, 9:52 PM

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The main part isn't matching dimensions, it's about matching screw mounting.

#

Even if a motherboard physically may fit in a case, it doesn't mean you can mount it correctly :)

cobalt pendant Oct 28, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Hey all looking for some memory for my gigabyte z390 aorus pro wifi. Looking at this set https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236592 but it doesn't say what version it is and this mb needs very 5.49

ebon lantern Oct 28, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

do you guys know how good the i3 10100 is?

charred venture Oct 28, 2020, 1:00 AM

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its as good as the price

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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based off everything shown so far would the ryzen 5 5600x bottleneck the RTX 3080 FE as much as my current ryzen 7 3700x

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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we can't tell

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because 5600x reviews not out yet smh

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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im saying based off the single core scores on passmark

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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...

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that can't tell us

#

and that's not official yet

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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thanks, im eager to get something better for my setup so i wont be bottlenecked in 1080p

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Is multi core better since multi threaded rendering exists

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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idk but i do know that i might be leaning more towards the 5950x and it has 16 cores 32 threads, so that technically should destroy the competition

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Ok

still juniper Oct 28, 2020, 2:02 AM

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so in my pc parts list i have an intel 17-10700 as my cpu, should I switch to AMD? will it be cheaper for about the same performance? what exactly is the AMD equivalent?

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:03 AM

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wait for reviews.

still juniper Oct 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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for the new amd cpus?

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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mhm

still juniper Oct 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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ok perf

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Its november 5 right?

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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for release yea

#

for NDA to lift it should be a day or two earlier

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 2:06 AM

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800 for 5950x

#

hmm

#

Im actually somewhat excited

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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oh yeah, my current 3700x is only giving me 140fps on 1080p

#

i know it can do over 200 in warzone

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Silicon lottery

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@stoic matrix what GPU though

#

CPU doesn't matter as much for fps

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:30 AM

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we have the exact same setup

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3080 fe

#

and everything is the same except he has a 10900k

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:31 AM

#

...

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Cpu does matter on 1080p

#

But less in 1440p and 4k

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Yes

#

I was just saying CPU itself doesn't contribute to the FPS

#

and warzone is screwey

#

I get 140fps on 1080p with a RTX 2070 and a 3700x on nearly max settings... so uh

#

@stoic matrix might want to check settings if you're downscaling or something

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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The 3700x won't bottleneck a 3080 lmao

heady root Oct 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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who said it would

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@worn night considering the FPS I get with a 2070... I'd think there's something wrong in his settings

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:46 AM

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yeah there is something wrong

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im not downscaling

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our settings are identical and he gets 40 more fps than me

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it might be drivers since the 3080 is still new and not many people have them

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but somtehing is wrong still

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:48 AM

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check drivers

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check rendering resolution

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check anti aliasing settings

dusky pagoda Oct 28, 2020, 2:49 AM

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https://youtu.be/jZrnfWpENTo

YouTube

Panjno

🔧 How to Optimize Nvidia Control Panel For GAMING & Performance The...

The ULTIMATE guide to Optimize Nvidia Control panel settings for best Performance in 2020 ✔️, RTX, GTX Geforce For Both OLD and NEW PCs getting more fps in games and speed up your pc, fix lag fix stuttering
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▶ Play video

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kinda dumb but u could try these settings

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:52 AM

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lol

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ive done all of these things

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:53 AM

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what the hell is that

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 2:56 AM

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its just setting max performance

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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I don't trust it

midnight pollen Oct 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Go check out blur busters

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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yea

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I was just about to link their g-sync guide lmao @midnight pollen

midnight pollen Oct 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Yeah idk seems kinda click baity vid

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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take a look at all of these

📎 unknown.png

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https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/
@stoic matrix this is good info

Blur Busters

jorimt

G-SYNC 101

Many G-SYNC input lag tests & graphs -- on a 240Hz eSports monitor -- via 2 months of testing via high speed video!

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ofc it's not necessary for anything

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but it's good info

midnight pollen Oct 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Blur buster very nice

stoic matrix Oct 28, 2020, 3:02 AM

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ok lets see

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i used that to do gsync lets see if the fps is better

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Also something that I have read was that Nvidia shaders can make the game run 20 fps less if they are enabled

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Idk how true itis

glass marsh Oct 28, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Will b550 support the new cpus?

deep vigil Oct 28, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Yes

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With a bios update

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I recommend waiting till since I believe the newer boards will come with bios for it

shut void Oct 28, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Which is best: Ryzen 7 3700x or Ryzen 5 5600x?

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 1:26 PM

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The ryzen 5 5600x will be better for gaming but the ryzen 7 3700x will be better for productivity with its 2 extra cors

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:29 PM

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we'll have to see

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 1:30 PM

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theoretically

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:33 PM

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because with the two samples we have on passmark so far, 5600x might actually beat 3700x with overall multithread score because of how fast each thread is @winged parcel
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/3859vs3485

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 1:34 PM

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possibly

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:34 PM

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theoretically it's better, but yet also can be worse.

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(Passmark's overall score is with all threads)

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with a 10600k and 10700k for reference actually:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-Intel-i5-10600K-vs-Intel-i7-10700K/3859vs3485vs3735vs3733

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of course the 5600x scores are only leaks so far

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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if the clocks are high enough it could out do the 3700x

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:39 PM

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the cause isn't clocks

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it's iPC

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if it's just clocks, why can't a 5ghz Intel 10600k beat a 3700x in mutithread? @winged parcel
:D

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Yeh ik

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I’m just glad I’m lazy

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I almost bought stuff for a rig then didn’t get around to finalize it and 3000 series was announced so I was like I’ll wait then 5000 and 6000 series so

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Now I have tons of options

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

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fun

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Lmao

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Hello! I'm looking for assistance in purchasing future computers for my company. We historically have purchased Mini PCs, and they have worked amazingly for what we need. I would like to continue purchasing these type of units. Intel® NUC 10 Performance kit - NUC10i5FNH was one of our previous units, simple and effecient...running about 5-7+ years per system.

Necessity:

HDMI Port
Ability to run ALL Microsoft products
Wifi & Ethernet
i5 or i7 shouldn't be an issue
3.5mm Audio port
3+ USB ports
Pre-installed Windows 10

Googling the NUC10i5FNH, this can still be purchased, and definitely could work. Simply looking for suggestions from people!

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@weary summit build them yourselves

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also that's not rlly what we do here..

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like

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we talk abt tech @weary summit

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and build PCs

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we aren't like- customer support tho

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:50 PM

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@neat glacier I understand that option. I have limited experience with building a Mini PC, nor do I have the time to complete that type of build. I guess my hope was to find someone within this Discord who has knowledge of Mini PCs, and could provide a direction.

The tech/building pcs topic, would completely address what I was hoping to get.

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:50 PM

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erm

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:50 PM

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@neat glacier Customer Support options from Newegg, Intel, etc...are not helpful.

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I mean, what kind of work do the PCs need to do?

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gpu intensive, cpu intensive, high amount of storage or ram?

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or do u just need functioning PCs

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also- how many, and for how much?

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Very basic things.

Microsoft Products (Word/Excel/etc)
Internet (Typically youtube/videos)
Adobe Acrobat
Middle of the road EVERYTHING for gpu, cpu, and ram. Because we don't need these devices to pull any significant weight...
i5 would make sense due to performance, SSD would make sense for efficiency, 8gb would make sense for health of the machine

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:53 PM

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like what's the budget and how many PCs

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?

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I would say 16 gb of ram..

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 3:53 PM

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^

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:53 PM

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and defo a ryzen 5 instead of an i5

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nvme wouldn't be as big of a deal

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Could be an older unit, so $350-650. And roughly 1-2 per year.

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16gbs could work - If the price difference from 8-16 is minimal, I'd select 16 for sure.

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:54 PM

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ya know @weary summit- you could do something similar to what my dad did for his team at work... do a team or workplace teambuilding activity and all build your own PCs.

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16 gb vs 8 gb is abt 30$

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30$ extra*

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:55 PM

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@neat glacier I truly value that option, but given the projects I work on and limited time, buying a prebuilt unit is almost my only option.

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:56 PM

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you are going to have a hard time finding a prebuilt for that price that would meet ur requirements

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maybe find a custom builder?

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so I build custom PCs for people... find somebody like me who can do that

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:56 PM

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That could definitely be the solution ^

neat glacier Oct 28, 2020, 3:57 PM

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like i don't wanna break rules, bc selling isn't allowed, but dm me if u want more info about that

weary summit Oct 28, 2020, 3:57 PM

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(Our prior IT service was overpriced, and not worth any $$ we paid). My simple goal is to have a long-term option to buy prebuilt mini pcs (outdated or not).

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 3:58 PM

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define mini pc

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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For business you should not be building your own. Go with an OEM like Dell or hp

winged parcel Oct 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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depends on what you're trying to do

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:00 PM

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The thing is, an old optiplex sounds just about right for you, swap in an SSD and done.

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Sorry if this is kind of a noob question, but what's more important for gaming? Single- or multi-core performance?
I'm torn between the ryzen 5 5600x and the 3700x for my new build

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Single core is more important for gaming, by quite a bit.

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Because most games don't make use of more than 4 threads or so.

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Alright, thanks!
I was torn on how much the difference in cores would matter, because they're similarly priced

brave path Oct 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Sould I get a new mobo or stay with my b450 tomhank max with the new rx 6000 cards

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Which card do you plan to buy?

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@brave path GPU doesn't really care about PCIe 4.0 yet, so just a GPU upgrade wouldn't need a new mobo or anything.

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:21 PM

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^

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Also a note on what I asked earlier: It turns out the 3700x has marginally better multi-core performance (around 5-7%), but the 5600x has like 30% better single-core performance

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And it's $20 cheaper

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So really you can't go wrong

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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or does it

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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According to the benchmarks

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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there's the fun part of no 3rd party reviewer reviews yet :)

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aka. GN

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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true lol

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

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it's also only like a 3% multi core perf difference according to the passmark samples

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

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oh wow
Also another question: What would be better for a 5600x/3070 build: a mid-range X570 (Asus TUF), or a high-end B550?

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

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at what price

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200$ or 160$

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Currently the TUF sells for 160

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Get a 160ish b550

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I can get an ROG strix b550 for the same price

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with a newegg deal

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Wait what?

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The ROG Strix B550 comes with PCIe 4.0

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Hm, really no reason to choose the TUF now

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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All b550 have 20 pci-e 4 lanes

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Didn't know that lol

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Also most X570s have chipset fans, not good

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Chipset fans are all awful

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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people worrying about chipset fans should get a hobby

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Maybe that is their hobby

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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That is my hobby

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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good, that means you should be aware that you are a niche of a niche :)

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I bring a "ban chipset fans" sign when I got to political protests

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 5:46 PM

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What's wrong with chipset fans? Do they make the board worse? I'm looking to get a x570

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Extra point of failure

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Most likely fan to start grinding

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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So is that a reason to not get x570?

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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If it fails completely then chance of chipset on MB overheating and bye bye mb

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For me it is

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Damnit means I have to start looking all over again

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I'd rather go for a high-end B550 than a mid-range X570 bc that's what my budget allows

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Looking through B550 shouldn't be too hard

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Basically only get x570 of you need the extra features

devout geyser Oct 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I need help really bad guys!!!! Its an mobo question

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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And I don't even know what they are

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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What's up

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@fallen lynx More USB-C? Idk lol

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 5:50 PM

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are you serious @fallen lynx ?

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Yes, of the top of me head I don't know all the differences between the two

devout geyser Oct 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Asrock b459m pro4 wont post with 3rd gen in. Im trying to talk to amd for 2nd gen to update bios but is getting no " confirmation " that i need an upgrade

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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For serious

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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the fan failing is indeed worth noting. But it stopping wont overheat the chipset

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you would need to pull on all the lanes and features for that

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and even then, you would need to have a ZERO airflow case

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I've only seen a handful of people ever complain about the fan I don't stress mine 😂

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Look at this chipset fan apologist over here 🚨

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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The value was a dealbreaker for me

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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🤣😭

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I'd take an ROG strix B550 over a TUF X570

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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So the it's fine if the fan fails? Whats it needed for then

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Why you so sure it'll fail I haven't heard that happen to anyone yet

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I've personally heard they wear out quick

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Because it's a tiny little fan. It will fail

devout geyser Oct 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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So.. no help here. Anyone know where I can talk to tech??

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@devout geyser Do you know for certain the BIOS is the problem?

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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People have complained the GPU can block it slightly but It doesn't affect performance

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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You would have to call asus about your problem, not amd

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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asrock*

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yeah

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Whatever

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I would check their website for a bios update first

devout geyser Oct 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I cant post

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But I will

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Afaik, B450 boards are compatible with the ryzen 3000s

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Are you sure it's not a problem with the mobo itself?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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b450 chipset boards can potentially need a bios upgrade.

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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^ that's true

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Depends on the board

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Well at least b450 doesn't have a chipset fan to interfere with things

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Apparently the B450M Pro4 came Ryzen 3000 ready.

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I hate when all the dust accumulates in my chipset fan and it sets on fire

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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same

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@devout geyser When did you buy the board?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@fallen lynx small fan is not automatically = bad fan that will fail fast.

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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things heating up in the chipset fan fanbase

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lmao

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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nah, its misunderstood engineering if anything

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Say what you want, I'm still gonna protest with my anti chipset fan signs

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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aye aye

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and that is fair

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Sounds like buzz is not a fan of them

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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just please be realistic about it

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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That said, if I ever actually needed whatever additional features from x570 I would get one. But as a home user I just don't see any benefit

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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My point of conflict was futureproofing, but considering the Ryzen 5000 series is compatible with the B550 I don't need to worry about that

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I'm going for an x570 bc the one I'm looking at has the best combo of looks/internal/external io/vrm/etc that I've found

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Every thing else had something that bugs me

fallen lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:08 PM

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What is the main difference anyway? Chipset itself has pcie4 lanes instead of pcie4 being only from the CPU?

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 6:08 PM

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As far as I can tell the TUF X570 and the ROG strix b550 have the exact same vrm

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And those are the top two in my price range

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So really it's down to personal preference for me

carmine lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yo I have a b450 asrock steel legend motherboard and I have been thinking about getting a m.2 that uses PCIe 4.0 will they work?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@carmine lynx it will

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just not at the speed you think it will work at

carmine lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@gritty meadow then what speed will it work at?

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

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B450 boards don't support PCIe 4.0 on m.2s, but it'll still work if you put in a 4.0 ssd

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It'll just run at the speed of a PCIe 3.0 ssd

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:22 PM

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3.0

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which will still be way faster than you will ever notice

carmine lynx Oct 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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gotcha

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I was wanting to get the ryzen 9 5900x so I might be looking to a new mobo anyways

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what motherboard would y'all go with if it was a x570

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 6:43 PM

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any you want really

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look at board features IO etc

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find one that fits your needs

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and go with that

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme/p/N82E16813145158
Alright well this one doesnt have a chipset fan lol

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The joke is it's $1200

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Jokes aside, is there any situation where you would actually need a $1200 mobo?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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on the consumer side?

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i hope it never comes to that (that we need something in that price range)

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are there people that want boards in that price range? yes

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are they normal consumers? some of them are. but some of them are from the OC crowd

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ignoring HEDT, I don't really think there's any reasons for a high end board other than OC

worn night Oct 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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That'd be some pretty extreme overclocking, no?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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"oh shiny" segment does not automatically include logic

hollow thorn Oct 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Heh

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And just another section labeled "Linus"

naive pendant Oct 28, 2020, 8:23 PM

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So how do you guys think the zen 3 5000 series launch will go? Im lookin to get a 5600

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Same here. Hopefully they won't have all the... stock issues we've seen recently. AMD uses different foundries than Nvidia, and they seem really confident in their radeon 6000 series launch, so I think it'll go just fine.

fresh river Oct 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I think it might sell out initially but wont be as bad as the 3090 and 3080 launch

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there wont be as bad of stock issues

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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well, it would be very hard to launch as few as nvidia has done so far

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Another big problem with the RTX 3000 series launch is that they didn't give the AIB manufacturers enough time to actually finalize their designs

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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but darn, those 6000 chips are NOT small

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thats a minor detail @sly vessel

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its the actual chips that seem to be lacking

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yeah

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And a lot of the ones they do have are having capacitor problems it seems like

fresh river Oct 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Hopefully the 3070 wont be as much of a crap show im going to try and snipe one hopefully

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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is the "no time for the AIB's to work on cards" a good thing? heck no. Is it a minor thing by now? yes

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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They pulled the listings off Newegg to prevent bots from tracking them @fresh river. So it probably won't be as bad

fresh river Oct 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Think amazon did the same thing I only see PNY ones, any idea how Im supposed to find 3070 listings tmrw then?

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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they will show up

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dont worry about that

sly vessel Oct 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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They'll go up as soon as the launch happens

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So just search "rtx 3070" and keep refreshing

fresh river Oct 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Should I jsut refresh 3070 in the search bar a lot

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Aight hopefully im going to try and snipe an aftermarket card, my price point is under $550

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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going to be interesting to see if the AIB reviews have a embargo before or at the same time as physical card launch thou

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Hello i got a question about my ram

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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ask, and if people know the answer or have the time. they will answer.

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I recently ordered the wrong ram g.skill ripjaws3200 two 8 gig sticks. I currently have g.skill ripjaws300 two 8 gig sticks. However i just wanted to test and see if they would work together. I had my 3000 in A2 and B2 and put the 3200 in A1 and B1. It recognizes in my bios but then my computer screen goes black and won't start up. Both sets work by themselves but not together, any tips or should i just return?

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sorry i meant to put g.skill ripjaws3000*

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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which mainboard?

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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asrock B450M pro4

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:24 PM

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what cpu @buoyant hamlet ?

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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ryzen5 2600

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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it seems that that board does not like using all 4 mem slots

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which is a bit weird, because i am fairly certain i have build in that one with 4 sticks before

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yeah i'm not quite sure. I watched a few videos of people with similar builds do the same thing with different speed rams in the same mother board and it worked fine for them, I could have a faulty dim slot

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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you could

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not likely, but you could

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try and see if you can boot with 1 sticks in A1 / B1

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And yes, i know, its not where the manual tells you to plug them

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:31 PM

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alright i'll try that

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:32 PM

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because that would answer the "maybe a dead slot" question

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best of luck @buoyant hamlet

buoyant hamlet Oct 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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both ste booted in A1 and B1 so I tried once again to run all 4 at once and my computer still won't start up. Thanks again for the help

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sets*

gritty meadow Oct 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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darn

fallen lynx Oct 29, 2020, 12:01 AM

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also try swappping which slots the pairs are in, and also try disabling XMP

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 12:11 AM

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@echo bolt AMD recommends at least DDR4-3200 for the 3700x. I would go for 3600 if it’s in your budget

buoyant hamlet Oct 29, 2020, 12:22 AM

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alright will do thanks guys

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@sly vessel thank u, c14 16 or 18?

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for 3600?

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 12:27 AM

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16

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 12:27 AM

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^

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 12:30 AM

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k cool thank guys!

worn night Oct 29, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Would it be doable to overclock 3000 mhz C16 Ram to 3600 mhz

wild cypress Oct 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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If I were to get 2x4 gigs to fit my budget could I buy the same ran again down the road to upgrade?

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ram*

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 2:59 AM

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@worn night it's like asking if I can OC any CPU from 3.0 ghz base clock to 3.6ghz, who knows, we need specifics, and OCing is always iffy.

long geyser Oct 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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wow, new thing in AMD mobo spreadsheet

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worn night Oct 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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@hollow thorn what's realistic for OC ram?

midnight pollen Oct 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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fancy diagram

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Yawy

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@worn night use xmp

worn night Oct 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Xmp just setting to the standard of the stick

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What it's advertised at

deep vigil Oct 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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3070 launches at 9am est right

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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do you want to oc past that?

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i assume so

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?

deep vigil Oct 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Oh sht wrong one lol

worn night Oct 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Yeah that's why I'm asking

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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that would make sense wouldnt it

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XD

deep vigil Oct 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Ocing ram is a pain in the ass

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And not worth it

echo bolt Oct 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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i was about to say that

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bc u gotta go to the bios every time

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and if its not stable it would be a pain

worn night Oct 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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I mean yeah it seems like it could be a pain in the ass that could lead to other possible issues but I'm curious what I could safely do if I felt like it

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:38 AM

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when is the new intel cpu reveal

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:46 AM

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we dont know

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there is no remotely credible rumours about that at all @naive pendant

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:47 AM

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oke because i want to build a workstation but i don't know if i should choose intel or amd

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:48 AM

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depends on what you need it for

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:48 AM

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solidworks and gaming

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:48 AM

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"workstation" is not specific enough to tell you

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zen3 is my take on that

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meaning, you will be building after nov 5th

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:49 AM

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oke i have patient

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:49 AM

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and if you wanted to go with 11th gen intel, its some time in 2021

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:50 AM

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ohh that late

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:50 AM

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but if that is january or december? we dont know

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2021 is technically not far away

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just 2 months

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but again

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we dont know

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:50 AM

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yeah oke

gritty meadow Oct 29, 2020, 9:51 AM

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and from what we know about 11th gen, it wont be faster than the zen3 chips

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 9:51 AM

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oke

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

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@worn night what's realistic? none.

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No OC is realistic for ram

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because that's what you'll get for a lot of sticks of ram, not much freq increase at all, maybe a bit tighter timings

worn night Oct 29, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Hmmm fair enough

naive pendant Oct 29, 2020, 1:32 PM

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do you think the amd ryzen 7 3700x will be better to have for a workstation than the amd ryzen 5 5600

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@naive pendant The Ryzen 7 3700x has a slightly higher multi-core performance rating, so it will be slightly better for multitasking.

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In contrast, the 5600x has a considerably higher single-core performance rating, which is typically more important for gaming

rugged sierra Oct 29, 2020, 2:02 PM

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for one of my friends builds i am debating going intel because the 9600k is 160 at the microcenter but i need to know if it would be worse or better than the 3600 for gaming

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and then he would also get 20 bucks of the mobo that way

midnight pollen Oct 29, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Check out some benchmarks

rugged sierra Oct 29, 2020, 3:18 PM

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okay

carmine lynx Oct 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yo my mobo says it supports 3533+ (OC) for ram right does that mean it will work with 3600?

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 5:26 PM

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who knows

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gib specifics

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Should i buy 3200 mhz ram or 3600 mhz ram?

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With ryzen 7 3600x

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:01 PM

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well it depends

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could ur mother board handle the 3600hz?

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and it also depends on what ramm ur getting

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I have just bought a b550-f from asus

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The corsair vengeance 18 c 3600 i've been looking at

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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look in specs

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and do u got an idea of what ramm?

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if u want preformance

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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It's just the difference between 3200 mhz and 3600 mhz on this webiste is minor

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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no rgb on ramm, depending on the lighting, the ramm may take up power supply

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wait wdym

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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But with the r7 3600x I dont know if 3600 mhz is too much

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Or if I should settle with 3200

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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ok lets talk basic

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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It's just the difference between 3200 mhz and 3600 mhz on this webiste is minor
@fluid gorge (In price)

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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u got the r7 3600x

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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No I'm going to buy it soon

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Going to build a whole pc

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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no extras right

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?

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@fluid gorge should wait for 5600x

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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true

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@hollow thorn why?

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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From what we've seen so far

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Much better performance

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As in beating Intel kind of performance

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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but if he wants a chipest now, i suggest micro center .com for the chip, its lower price, but newegg for other things

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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the r5 5600x is better than r7 3600x?

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Uhh

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Since when is 3600x a r7

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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It's just that the r7 has 2 cores and 4 threads more i thinok

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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And ignore the r5 r7 r9 marketing

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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3700x*

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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For your own good

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Because here's the thing

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If passmark benches are to be trusted

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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But ain't more cores and threads bettter (I'm not that intelligent in cpus)

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I've seen the r5 has good single core performance

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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5600x threads are so good, 12 threads can beat the 16 threads of the 3700x in a multithread benchmark

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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It beats the i 9 10900k

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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remember ur power supply may be bulkier bc of the whole pc wattage

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@fluid gorge even in multi thread benchmark

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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So what would you recommend for a psu

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Rlly?

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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i like the R5

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Of what i've seen the r7 had better multicore

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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those are good

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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5600x is nearly beating 3700x with the samples we have so far

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Where are you seeing it :)

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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r7 has like 3% better multicore

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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but i dont know when the new ones are coming out

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Some website i guess

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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r5 has 30% better single core

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I'll pull up numbers

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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So what would be optimal @sly vessel

sly vessel Oct 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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For gaming, the r5 wins

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Yeah ok

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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if u want a chip go with the r5 3600x

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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But what about games that need better multicore?

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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why

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why 3600x

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@fluid gorge what game needs better multicore above 4 cores >:D

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I dont know

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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There's some more research that needs to be done it seems

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anyways

fluid gorge Oct 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I use the i5 6600k i thnk

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yeap i5 6600k

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Welp then thanks for the help I think I will wait then

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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np

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also

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@fluid gorge

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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passmark overall score considers all scores

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@fluid gorge right here
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/3859vs3862vs3485

paper hill Oct 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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the cooler do u got an idea of what the chip needs?