#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 123

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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aside from the increased pcie bandwidth no one uses

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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imao

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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like, these boards will be obsolete before consumers need that much pcie bandwidth

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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yea

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 9:33 PM

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But I must have the best of the best, sir! (jk)

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@main pulsar but but but I want a honey badger

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I heard those things are vicious

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B-die is getting hard to find. Looking like I'll have to order from the UK.

charred venture Aug 27, 2020, 10:00 PM

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i bought some b-die locally and the person was running it at 2133 mhz

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overclocked it to 3200 cl14

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Nice

charred venture Aug 27, 2020, 10:02 PM

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try looking locally there might be some really good deals

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Tried looking. Not enough population around here.

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Fairly certain at least 1/2 of them don't know what a computer is.

charred venture Aug 27, 2020, 11:31 PM

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damn that must be tough

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the socal pc market is pretty good

deep vigil Aug 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Meep

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H looking on craigslist

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Or offer up

neat estuary Aug 27, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I think i found some B-die on Amazon. Patriot has the 4133 cl19 2x8gb on their for 100$ which i think is B-die

deep vigil Aug 27, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Check b die finder

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 12:09 AM

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^

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Would you guys go with a ROG Strix B450-F or the ASUS Prime X570-P? I'm using a 2070 and a Ryzen 3600 with dual M.2 970 Evo

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Strix B450-F

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it might need a bios update though

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@icy juniper

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@icy juniper mostlikey won't need an update

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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not sure if it ships with 3rd gen ryzen

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but it probably does

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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It says it does yeah

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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ok

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then get that

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Why would you choose the B over the X?

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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its a really solid board, looking at the pics

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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They're the same price (in my country)

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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overall the X570 looks cheaper

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I'm pretty noobish with this

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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and the heatsink doesnt look as good on the x570

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Oh aight

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So B450F?

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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yes

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still ask around

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though

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Do I lose any preformance due to pcie gen 4?

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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no

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not really

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Hm, not as future proof though

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That's my only concern

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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if you are concerned about that look at b 550 boards

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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There's a B550 f of the Strix

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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sure go with that

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overall most mobos are pretty solid of they are over that 120 dollar range

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it just depends on if you like the looks or not

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I like the ROG look way better

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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and always look at the heatsink

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Thought getting an X570 would be better than a B

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Just because of the "modern" factor

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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im not really sure

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but do some research on your own

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ask around some more

icy juniper Aug 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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All right! Thanks for the help man!

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 1:25 AM

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np

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Ok, so let's say that I'm not able to locate 2x16 B-die. What would be a good alternative?

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:33 AM

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b die is just for OCing not really for daily price to perf imo

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:P

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But I want to make it go Brrrrrr

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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If on Ryzen, go Crucial 3600c16 2x16gb kit

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and have a good day

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Thank you!

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 2:42 AM

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but b die :(

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love_it

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I really would like to have it, but i just can't find it.

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What are the signs of a CPU not working

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I'm a dunce to PC specs

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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theres alots of signs lol

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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debug LEDs

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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debug LED?

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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mobi leds

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mobo*

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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that's the only thing that's almost certain to indicate CPU issue

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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it will tell u what failed

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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other stuff can have many causes

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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also beeping

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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this stuff

📎 iu.png

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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some mobos beep

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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My motherboard LED is working (brand new CPU and motherboard)

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Beeping is usually CPU overheating tho

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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no not always

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Ok so my motherboard works in all

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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That's what MSI does

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Currently I cannot get GPU

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A*

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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true

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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But I cant turn off my computer

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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?

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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I'm thinking I have things wired in wrong

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:00 AM

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how did u turn it on?

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Same buttob

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Button*

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Doesnt turn off though

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:00 AM

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bc if your case button worked then it should work now

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so i dont think its the button

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Happened before but I didn't update BIOS

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Ok so basically. Brand new motherboard and brand new CPU

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No GPU, old one has fried ports

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I can turn it on but cant turn it off

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:01 AM

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does it work when its on?

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or are the lights and fans just going?

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Ph yeah

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Oh*

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Basically it works, it's happened with my old computer before replacing it

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What I'm thinking is I just messed up the wiring (if I spelled it right)

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:03 AM

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this seems odd

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its kinda hard to mess up the wiring

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but i guess its possible

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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It's the uhh

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Small pins

charred venture Aug 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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front IO?

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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ye

charred venture Aug 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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tbh

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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should be two tiny pins

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Mhm

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:06 AM

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u can short them with a screwdriver and see id that works

charred venture Aug 28, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I'd just flip psu switch

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:06 AM

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nonono

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Oh you must be thinking of something else

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Lemme

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Grab a pic

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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if u kill the power the pc thinks its an emergency shutdown every time. not something u should do

charred venture Aug 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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orr shut down from OS

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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yes

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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📎 20200827_220730.jpg

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I've occasionally mixed things up thinking one is backwards

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:09 AM

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all the power button does it connect the two pins. there is no backwards

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:09 AM

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No I mean

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Nvm

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Old motherboard though

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Can't use a GPU at the moment sadly

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So I cant see if it actually works

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:11 AM

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no on board vid?

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:11 AM

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what

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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on the mobo there aint a vid port u cant use

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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I can

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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can*

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ahh

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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But my AMD doesn't support it

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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aj

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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AMD Ryzen 7 3400x

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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ah

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Why does G.Skill Trident Z Neo have to look so nice.

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?Item=N82E16819113103

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 AM

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cuz its G.Skill Trident Z Neo

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i just bought this the other day

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 AM

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nice

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3900X, very nice

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:15 AM

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too start onther pc buildd

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:15 AM

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I'm getting a 3700X, can't quite afford the 3900X

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:16 AM

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ya my other pc i use is the fx8350

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Ha, I have the same chip right now

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This upgrade is going to be so nice.

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:17 AM

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not this pc im talkin u through but the one i play games with

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ya it will im sure

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:17 AM

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The one I'm on right now is the FX

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Can't wait to get it all together

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:18 AM

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ya

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i wont be upgrading ill b buildin another pc lol

devout mothBOT Aug 28, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Optimus Prime#4723 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I sort of am. New case and everything.

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Oops

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:19 AM

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oops

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my bad

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ill b usin the fx for discord n crapp

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i should b a role thats not a rookie cuz iv built like 20 cpu's (pcs) lol

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 3:21 AM

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well unfortunately thats not how it works

clear sequoia Aug 28, 2020, 3:21 AM

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ya i see

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I've been building for a very long time. Rank doesn't mean much to me though. I can post links, that's all I need.

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I’m building a new pc In January, should I go for intel i9 10th gen or a ryzen 4000 . I’m mainly focusing on gaming

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 6:06 AM

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personally im an intel fanboy but i feel like ryzen might be better for gaming value

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also the 10th gen intel chipset supports pcie 4.0 but the actual 10th gen cpus dont. the 11th gen will- not that it matters unless you have a really powerful gpu

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like better than a 2080ti

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I’m going for a 3090

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 6:20 AM

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then id go amd

vapid ermine Aug 28, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Is it really worth going for 3600 over 3200 ram? Im not on a tight budget, but I also dont want to spend extra money where I dont really need it.

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 6:27 AM

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not necessarily

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ram is crazy

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stuff has a real base clock and an advertised base clock

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then u can oc it

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but in reality 3200 is a safe bet

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what cpu do u have?

vapid ermine Aug 28, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Dont have it yet, Planning a build, Ryzen 5 3600X

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 6:32 AM

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ryzen usually benefits more from higher clock speeds but that isnt everything

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are u familiar with ram timings?

vapid ermine Aug 28, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Nope 🙂

fading lynx Aug 28, 2020, 6:46 AM

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well there are some optimization factors in ram

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higher speed isnt always faster per se

copper pike Aug 28, 2020, 10:46 AM

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is B450M BAZOOKA MAX compatible with ryzen 3 3100?

floral jetty Aug 28, 2020, 10:53 AM

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same socket, might need a bios update

fossil bridge Aug 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

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its compatible

hollow osprey Aug 28, 2020, 12:38 PM

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What amd cpu should I get if I plan to get the new 3000 series gpus

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 12:39 PM

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whatever fits your needs

hollow osprey Aug 28, 2020, 12:39 PM

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do you think a 3700x would bottleneck it too bad?

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Can't tell ya without having the new GPU's specs

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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so in summary.... wait.

hollow osprey Aug 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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yeah

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alright thanks

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 12:52 PM

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you are very welcome, best of luck waiting thou :)

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 1:08 PM

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📎 image0.png

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 2:44 PM

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how much could i sell 16 gb 2400 mhz ram for

main pulsar Aug 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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used? you could probably get 40 for it on facebook market

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if you wanna sell it quick, i would suggest 30

pearl frigate Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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i use a core i5 3340 3.10 ghz and 8gb of ram

proud pier Aug 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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bro why are you going to every channel and saying your specs

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these channels are for help

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 3:47 PM

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flexing their 3rd gen i5

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Here, let me flex my FX-8350

eternal turtle Aug 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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lemme flex my i5 2400 RX 570 and 16GB ram

covert monolith Aug 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm trying to build my first PC and I was wondering can a ryzen and a threadripper use the same motherboard?
I'm trans and vegan btw

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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no

covert monolith Aug 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Ok, thank you

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Who asked for the last part

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I wanna know

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Also no afaik it's not the same chipset so it'll need a different motherboard

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No one asked for it, but don't dare be rude to an obvious troll. That'll get you told off.

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It's equally inappropriate imo

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smhmyhead

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:15 PM

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@naive pendant consider this: Just because someone else does something, does not mean it is okay to do the same thing

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also, it is up to everyone to decide for themselves what they respond/react to

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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The person has been trolling for a few days, and I called attention to it so it could be handled. Excuse me.

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I think it's fine lmao

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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and @naive pendant i am not mad/angry. Just trying to keep a civil tone in the community in general :)

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Well it's coming off rude.

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:17 PM

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There is no ill intent intended from my side.

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Neither is mine GWseremePeepoHappy

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Didn't know they were trolls

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It's someone that got banned before. Hence the name Crappy Rules

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Anyways. Back to motherboards. cpus and memory

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I was planning on buying a B550M board in a few days. But I'm wondering if I should wait and see what the x670 is like.

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I'm only able to buy 1 or 2 parts a month, so I won't be assembling it until December-ish anyways.

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There's gonna be x670?

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Dambf

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Supposed to be around the last 1/4 of the year from what I was seeing.

rose zealot Aug 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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has anyone messed with memory timing? also can you use different timed modules? for instance a 16-19-19-39 and a 17-19-19-39

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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yes it will run at the slower one (17-19-19-39)

rose zealot Aug 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I ended up finding the correct timing that I have now, but was just curious

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thank you @quaint current

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have you messed with changing the timings in bios?

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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personally no i just use xmp

rose zealot Aug 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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IDK why but I just bought 32gb more lol impulse buy

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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if i had e or b die i would probably mess around but my ram is just meh quality

rose zealot Aug 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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same here

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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do u guys think the 4950x

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will launch with other 4th gen cpus

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like the 4900x

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or will it come a few months later

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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nobody knows

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📎 image0.png

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@naive pendant generally, when a CPU generation is launched, we have a rough idea about launch times for all the parts

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

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ok

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thanks

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nice pfp

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

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but, since the CPU generation in question has not been launched .. we dont know :)

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and you are very welcome

covert monolith Aug 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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does anyone have any recommendations on a ryzen motherboard?

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My non-binary partner said to use a gigyabite?

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#m=18&sort=price&page=1

Choose A Motherboard

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there you go. free choice.

covert monolith Aug 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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thank you so much

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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now you just have a lot of googling ahead of you.

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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ya

quaint current Aug 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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modelvbrand

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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lotta googling is good

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This is a good utility
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs

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safe granite Aug 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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oof so I may or may not have just f'ed up

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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What happened

safe granite Aug 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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uuuuuh is anyone's here rn, I am in the process of a build atm and was in the middle of installing my cpu cooler (with pre-applied thermal paste). I suddenly hesitated in the middle of attachment and I partially took it off to reposition it. The time it was off was all of 45 seconds, but should I take it off again and replace the thermal paste?

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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no

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dont worry about it

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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4x8gb or 2x16gb?

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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2*16

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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^

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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That's what I was thinking, prices are so close though, wanted a second opinion. Thank you!

safe granite Aug 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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oh ok! thank you :")

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Or I could get 1 32 stick for the same price and really be able to expand later.

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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No

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2x16

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Dont do single channel

safe granite Aug 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I have 2x16 too

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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and you are very welcome @safe granite

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Naed

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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yes @deep vigil ?

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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32gigs 32x2

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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next option. eat ramen for a month and get 2x32

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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For 100 at 3200 cl16 corsair rgb pro

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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no

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why do you need 2x32

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Good deal?

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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give me a reason

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Because I want it

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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then no

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don't do it

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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you are crossing the wires :)

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I always cross the streams

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@deep vigil it technically sounds like a fair deal

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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time to play factorio with the touchpad bc im stuck in the classroom for a while :(

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Eh I dont need it

gritty meadow Aug 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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as for "are you going to gain anything" ? that is for you to decide :)

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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there's also the reason of, there is no reason not to.

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Extra money

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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idk what's with paying $40 for rgb only 😔

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If I'd want rgb I'd try and stretch for 3600Mhz

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HyperX Fury looks kinda nice. But Kingston makes me want to run screaming.

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@naive pendant wats the rest of the build

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Sorry, making dinner for family. Will be back in a bit.

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232999?Description=32gb&cm_re=32gb-_-20-232-999-_-Product

deep vigil Aug 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Bad

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Dont get 64

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Arent you only gaming

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@naive pendant bro what are you tryna do with 2x32gb ram

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Please tell me

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Because 3600c18 is bad

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And no 3600c16 32gb sticks in stock

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I'm going to be changing the timing on it anyways. And graphics and game design.

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Plus gaming, and pretty much everything.

surreal sleet Aug 28, 2020, 10:59 PM

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guys what's the fastest laptop CPU that one can buy now/soon ?
is it the AMD 4900H ? Intel i9-10980HK ?

hollow thorn Aug 28, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@naive pendant "changing the timings" isn't as simple as that

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And it's really hard to tighten timings on DJR, I have a kit of 2x16gb trident z neos, I should know.

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Unless you know you need more than 32gb right now, go 2x16

naive pendant Aug 28, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I have 32 right now and I've had issues

leaden perch Aug 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Anyone know if an amd fx 6300 good for a streaming pc on dota ? Planning on doing a 2 pc setup to run it at a solid 60fps

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Should do. They can also handle an overclock to 4.5GHz pretty easily on air.

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lol, the board I'm looking at supports single 32Gb

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I am thinking about building a gaming pc but cant decide if i want AMD or Intel for the cpu. AMD has cheaper prices and works well but Intel is better for gaming. Any suggestions?

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:27 AM

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AMD is better for a budget

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because generally their mobos are cheaper

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and they have pretty good stock coolers

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while on the other hand intel is better at gaming

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intel compatible mobos are a lot more expensive and you'll have to add more money to get a cpu cooler thats decent

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@royal marten

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there ya go

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Ok thank you

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:29 AM

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np

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just make sure to try to get 3600 speed ram if you can to get the most out of ur amd chip

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because amd favors faster ram

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but ahts usually hust 10 dollars more than 3200 speed ram

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:30 AM

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If i was to go the Intel route, would it be better to get the latest and greatest or choose something older

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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well you can get an i5 9th gen for around the same as a ryzen 5 3600

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I'd still go 10600k

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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but keep in mind, intel mobos are more expensive than ryzen mobos and you need a decent cooler

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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9600k just doesn't have HT

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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so while it seems good on paper

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unless ur budget is higher than 1200 dollars go amd

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thats what i would advise

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Intel only really makes sense for price to perf above around 1700$, where you can afford a 10600k+2080s/3080

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:32 AM

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it really depends on what the person is doing too

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if you're doing light streaming on a budget, go amd

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:33 AM

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ok

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thx

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:34 AM

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If you're doing anything on a budget, and don't NEED Intel for one of your programs, AMD.

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:35 AM

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ok

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:36 AM

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More specifically for right now, Ryzen 5 3600 (x)
Grab the x if it's the same price as the non-x, recently the non-x pricing has gone up a bit

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:38 AM

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My friend says he uses the AMD 3600 XT

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Xt overpriced for the perf imo

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Just like a 300mhz boost for like 40$ more

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:39 AM

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3600x vs 3700x, humm

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If I win the auction for this motherboard, I'm gonna freak.

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:42 AM

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what would be the best AMD rn for its price and all that

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:43 AM

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3600x at 210$ FOR RIGHT NOW. Usually 3600 is like 160$, but recently it's up to 200$ now.

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Do you think a 3700x is worth the difference in price?

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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no

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from watching videos no

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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that seems cheap for CPU

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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@naive pendant what do you do

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That's the question

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For gaming, not at all, for other stuff, depends.

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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A lot of everything. Graphics, game design, gaming, etc

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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What kinds graphics

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Like blender render or

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Photoshop

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Put it this way, I've maxed out 32Gb

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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That doesn't tell me anything :p

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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3D modeling, Photoshop, etc

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:47 AM

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what about gaming, video editing, streaming, watching videos, web browsing, and other things

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:47 AM

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By the way, Adobe products are one of the few reasons to go Intel

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So if you main premier Photoshop and Lightroom, Intel remains an option

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They're just more optimised for Intel

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:48 AM

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That's a path I won't take.

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:48 AM

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@royal marten usually, casual PC for doing a bit of everything, 3600(x) works just fine, if you want to focus a bit more on the video editing side of things, 3700x can be worth it.

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It's worth mentioning.

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:48 AM

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ok

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Anyways if you're gonna afford 64gb of ram I guess you can go with whatever

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Valid point

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It's sort of an enthusiast thing too. It will be an eternal project, constantly upgraded. Grown up LEGO if you will.

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Gotta stop myself from wanting to buy everything that comes out :p

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 5:52 AM

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If I had the money all at once. Well, I wouldn't have any.

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I would however have the perfect gaming room.

royal marten Aug 29, 2020, 5:55 AM

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recommended motherboard for the AMD 3700x

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 8:08 AM

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b550 msi tomahawk

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I am a college student who wants to build a PC for school, preferably with integrated graphics as I won’t game much. What is the best CPU with integrated graphics on the market for me and my situation?

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 1:59 PM

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What's the budget?

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Everything depends on the budget.

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Around under $250 for the CPU

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 1:59 PM

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What about overall?

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Around $650

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 2:02 PM

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@uneven jolt here, I see no reason to NOT go dGPU when your budget allows for it, I mean, It's free performance :P
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4cwNq

System Builder

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And sadly APUs from the AMD side are 1 generation behind for the CPU, and Intel iGPUs are just bad

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Okay, but still if I wanted an integrated graphics CPU to save some money and just for general knowledge, what would be my best option?

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 2:06 PM

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You just have 2 bad options, bite the bullet and get a bad iGPU with an intel 10100 or something, or get a 3400g that has a good iGPU, but the CPU is 1 generation behind, running kinda outdated architecture.

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That's why I believe going dGPU is just a better option overall

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Would an AMD or Intel CPU be better for what I am going to be doing as a student? Mainly multitasking and workstation related tasks

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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One has better iGPU, one has a better CPU itself. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Intel is more expensive overall too, unless you want to have the CPU run with lower ram speeds :P

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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^I mean with a CPU without integrated graphics

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Right now, AMD does everything, Intel is just more expensive. There are some exceptions though.

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Adobe products are very Intel optimized, Photoshop, light room, premier, etc.

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Most of my day will be spent on Chrome, Word, and Zoom, so nothing too much

hollow thorn Aug 29, 2020, 2:13 PM

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AMD should treat you well

uneven jolt Aug 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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If I were to buy the 3600x, what is the minimum and cheapest graphics card I would need to run my system?

pure wolf Aug 29, 2020, 2:35 PM

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rx5600 should serve you with 3600x

tacit hemlock Aug 29, 2020, 2:37 PM

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For your specific use case I would get a 1650S and a 3600 (instead of the 3600x)

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Hello

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:39 PM

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hi

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i can help you whats ur budget and what cpu do u have

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ur the guy from general right?

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Toshiba S55-A5279

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Need motherboard

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:42 PM

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thats a power cord

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you need a cpu first

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Find next month one

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:42 PM

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oh wait

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nvm

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i believe that is a laptop

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Yes

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Laptop

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:43 PM

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you dont need a motherboard then

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a motherboard is for pcs

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a cpu is a gaming chip

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:43 PM

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No

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:43 PM

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not an office laptop

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wdym no?

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Yes

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:44 PM

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ok

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you dont need a motherboard

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because your laptop has one inside of it already

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:45 PM

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laptops don't need anything and can't be upgraded except for MAYBE storage and ram

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:45 PM

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yes

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thank you for explaining

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Need motherboard for laptop

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:46 PM

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the motherboards in laptops are custom made for that specific laptop, it's already included

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:46 PM

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you dont because there is one inside of the laptop already

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are you trolling because if you are I am not wasting my time

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Justo bought motherboard other laptop

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Un newegg

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:47 PM

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nonononono

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you just wasted your money because that motherboard will not serve any use inside of your laptop

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Obviously English isn't your first language. I can't understand what you are trying to say.

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i think hes saying he bought a motherboard for his other laptop

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which is a Toshiba S55-A5279

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so now we need to explain that the motherboard wont work with his laptop

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Why

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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a standard ATX motherboard wont fit

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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yes

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and even if it does, you cant power it

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at all

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Ok

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Later i come back ser ir fits

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 5:50 PM

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it ownt

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im sure of it

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it will not fit

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its like trying to fit a square peg into a circle hole

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you're gonna break your laptop

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dont do it

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:50 PM

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if you bought a laptop motherboard you would need to make sure it was the right model and had all the components already soldered on, as you can't put a CPU on a laptop board yourself

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@deep cloak was the Motherboard shaped like this?
https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-144-264-V01.jpg

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:52 PM

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No

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:53 PM

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can you DM a link to the board you bought?

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yes

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 5:53 PM

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ok

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thank you

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 5:56 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-0021-002A2?Item=9SIAH8W9BM6398

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:00 PM

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why do you need a new one?

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Motherboard Is bad

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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how bad?

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Don,t turno on laptop

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:02 PM

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that might be a problem with the cpu or gpu

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not hte motherboard

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so try to take it into a tech shop

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and let them see if its the motherboards problem or not

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yeah already took thet toldo me that

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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oh ok

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Where hoy from

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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usa

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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You from

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I am i Mexico

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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ok cool

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Sell pones AND computers down here

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:04 PM

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whats a pone

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Phones cell

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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oh

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ok if you know what to do then i think you're all set

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Yes

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If you old phones i can buy

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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i dont have old phones

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sorry

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@deep cloak you don't have the tools to install it and get it working

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📎 unknown.png

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these are BGA pads without components

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Not me send yo shop

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 6:16 PM

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the entire component needs to be soldered on all at once and that takes special equipment and training

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most shops can't do that kind of work

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usually it's just easier to buy a new laptop

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:17 PM

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They fix laptop before

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Very expensive down here un Mexico

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I doubt the fix before required BGA soldering

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:18 PM

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his old mobo died

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or something

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i would tell him to get a new laptop but hes probably gonna need a new one after this anyways

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 6:19 PM

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only highly specialized shops with specialized equipment can even do small BGA soldering components and those are extremely rare

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but I hope the one you are using can

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:19 PM

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hmm good point

humble acorn Aug 29, 2020, 6:19 PM

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good luck with your repairs

proud pier Aug 29, 2020, 6:19 PM

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he might be wasting his money or getting scammed

deep cloak Aug 29, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Ok when Is running send you picture

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No my friend here diferente countrie

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You can,t scammed people

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Is the law of cartel of Sinaloa down here

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You robe cut tour hands

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You can,t robe any more

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Something smells fishy

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Don't really need to read about hands getting cut.

lofty gull Aug 29, 2020, 7:29 PM

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They paper cut your hand and pour lime juice on the cuts

naive pendant Aug 29, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Not the place for this discussion

deep cloak Aug 30, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Well if you live in this world. Here un Mexico kill 150 people every day war drugs.

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Be nice live in another countrie. No other choice.

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Just survive

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I suggest you read the rules.

hollow basin Aug 30, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Man, this msi 550 motherboard and ryzen 3600 isn't even posting

strong mist Aug 30, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Is this pc good
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, A 7nm architecture , 8 core, 16 threads with a base clock speed of 3.6 Ghz and Overclocked Speeds of upto 4.4 Ghz, With default TDP of 65W and Max temp of 95°C.
Graphics card Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super, 8 Gb of VRAM and 3 Fans
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H100i RGB PLATINUM 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
ROM Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
PSU Corsair RM (2019) 750 W, 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Case Corsair iCUE 220T, RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White

copper pike Aug 30, 2020, 1:34 PM

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How can I know how much fan headers does my mobo has??

umbral fog Aug 30, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Tells you in specifications

deep cloak Aug 30, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@naive pendant funny dude. He think Is mr. Right

umbral fog Aug 30, 2020, 3:20 PM

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What?

charred venture Aug 30, 2020, 5:43 PM

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?

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Hi. Question: Do you guys know if I buy a Samsung 32gb memory and add in my Samsung book flex if it will gonna work? Thank you

proud pier Aug 30, 2020, 6:16 PM

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check if there is an open slot for it

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first

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:16 PM

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yes I does

proud pier Aug 30, 2020, 6:16 PM

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after that i have no idea

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sorry

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:16 PM

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*it does

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ohh got it

proud pier Aug 30, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ok

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um im really not sure

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if its the same model as the other stick you have in there it should work

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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that's cool Gabe

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yea it should

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what speed is it

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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12

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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the one ur buying and the one u have

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ops..8 of ram

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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the speed

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like is it 2933

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mhz

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ohhh

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yea

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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hold on...let me see

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok

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ping me when u know

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@naive pendant Intel® Core™ i7-1065G7 Processor

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is this that you asked me?

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:20 PM

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no

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i asked the speed

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of the ram

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wait let me show u

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I this laptop I have 8gb of ram

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:22 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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which one do u have

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flex, book s, ion

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Galaxy Book Flex 15.6 512GB i7

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ok

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I don't know if I buy that memory if it will burn my new computer or not haha

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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so u have a nvme slot

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and a ram slot

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so u can put in the stick

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for sure

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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oh got it

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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thats a good computer

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i outta say i am impressed

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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thanks a lot

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ok perfect

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I will buy it

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Thank you @naive pendant for your help

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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wait a sec

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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ok

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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i want to help u get the best ram

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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cool

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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so u will want to get a sodimm

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8 gb ram

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i dont know the max for the computer but i see that it can go up to 16

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so i am gonna be on the safe side

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until i find out the max

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:26 PM

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can I go with a 32?

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or is it to much for my computer?

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:26 PM

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i am gonna check

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do u have the computer or r u buying it

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@vapid perch

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@naive pendant I bought it yesterday and it will be here in 10 days.

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:32 PM

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ok

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okay

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so u r gonna want a sodimm

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and 8gb

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at 2567 mhz

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i will try to find the max cap for the ram

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but it is probably 16 gb ram

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:34 PM

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got it

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that's nice

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Thank you again man

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:35 PM

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ok wait

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it might upgrade to 32 gb

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:35 PM

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really?

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:35 PM

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but 8 and 24

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if u cant take out the default stick

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but if u can

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16 and 16

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I will try to do that. Perfect.

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:36 PM

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ok so ddr4 and 2666 mhz

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that would be a better stick

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzFCcRmv7PY

YouTube

5after12

Samsung Galaxy Book Ion (15 inch) | Disassembly and RAM upgrade (16...

I got the 15.6 inch Samsung Galaxy Book Ion. In this video I take the bottom panel off and upgrade the memory to 16 GB.

You can get the Samsung Galaxy Book Ion 15.6” | Samsung Laptop with QLED Display and Intel Core i7 Processor from Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3c6Xjqe

This is t...

▶ Play video

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thats how to upgrade it

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but dont use the same stick as this dude

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he used a random stick

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@vapid perch

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:38 PM

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perfect. I will save this video and as soon as my computer arrive, I will let you know if it worked or not . @naive pendant

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:40 PM

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ok

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have a good day

vapid perch Aug 30, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@naive pendant you 2 bro 🙂

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@naive pendant again, thanks a lot for your help.

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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🙂

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welcome

prime finch Aug 30, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Are asus motherboards good?

hollow thorn Aug 30, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

modelbrand

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Every brand has good and bad models

neat estuary Aug 30, 2020, 8:55 PM

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@prime finch Over the 200$ range i consider Asus to have some of the best motherboards.. But you will get a lemon with every brand now and then

naive pendant Aug 30, 2020, 10:24 PM

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MSI gaming edge wifi gang gang

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For 200

neat estuary Aug 31, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Does anyone know of a bios reset add on button kit I could buy??? Time to get serious with this ram tuning.

hollow thorn Aug 31, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@neat estuary You could make your own lil switch, there's a reset cmos header on most motherboards, get that wired up outside of the case and you'll have a good time

neat estuary Aug 31, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ok. Im sure I could throw something together. Just figured if their was one on amazon or Newegg I’d just buy one. I haven’t found a single on. Hardware shop here I come.

supple drift Aug 31, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Im trying to fully understand chipsets. If I buy a mobo with and a processor that doesn't have a compatible chipset, can I just flash the bios?

deep vigil Aug 31, 2020, 4:30 AM

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What

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So your talking about taking a z390 board and 3600

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Answer is no

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Two different companies

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Or an older gen bord from amd might not have the same socket

warm fulcrum Aug 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Will the 3080 need the mininum of 850 watt psu?

long geyser Aug 31, 2020, 5:57 AM

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unlikely for the 3080 to have a PL of 600w, so more then likely not

fickle goblet Aug 31, 2020, 4:54 PM

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would a b550 motherboard and a ryzen 3600 be compatible?

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would I have to do anything to the bios?

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I dont really know how that works lmao

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 4:55 PM

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it works out of the box together

fickle goblet Aug 31, 2020, 4:55 PM

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what about ram? as long as its DDR4 it doesn't matter right?

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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3200 as a minimum is strongly recommended

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and IF the price is there, 3600 cl16

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and yes, ddr4

fickle goblet Aug 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ok thanks, finally got a job so now I'm looking to upgrade my 8 year old rig

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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you are very welcome, and best of luck :)

topaz reef Aug 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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@warm fulcrum no 650w will be enough most likely

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max gpu draw is 375w with 2 8pin, the current 2080 only draws around 220w

warm fulcrum Aug 31, 2020, 7:13 PM

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@topaz reef ok. i was gonna get a 750 watt so that should work out

fickle goblet Aug 31, 2020, 8:52 PM

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recommendations for 16GB of RAM at 3200?

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also is there any difference in buying 4 sticks of 4gb each versus two sticks ov 8gb each?

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 8:52 PM

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if amd, cl16

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as for 2 vs 4 sticks

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consider what happens IF you want to upgrade your ram later on

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4 sticks = ending up with spare sticks

fickle goblet Aug 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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so you're saying if I bought two for 16 and later I wanted to make it 32 I would just had two more 8gbs? but I couldn't do that with 4X4?

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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so you're saying if I bought two for 16 and later I wanted to make it 32 I would just had two more 8gbs? <- correct.

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but I couldn't do that with 4X4? <- you can do it, but you will end up with either 24 gigs of ram or 4 unused 4gig sticks

neat estuary Aug 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Its easier to hit the xmp speed with just 2 sticks. The ideal kit would be 2x16 3600c16 . you are lossing about 10% performance going 3200 unless you manually tune the timings which is not a easy task

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 9:57 PM

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my drive isnt recognized as a bootable drive anymore

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all i did was update the bios

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and i have no idea how to roll it back

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@slate seal 2 questions

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why did you update the bios?

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and have you loaded defaults after the update?

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i updated bc i needed agesa 1.0.04 or smth for this ocing tool linus showcased

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and if you mean the "load optimized defaults" then yes i tried that

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 10:00 PM

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okay.

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have you tried a forced boot from the OS drive?

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actually let me rephrase that.

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Do you have more than 1 drive in the system?

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 10:01 PM

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nope

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 10:01 PM

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hm

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sounds like you have won the prize of installing your OS again then

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 10:02 PM

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great

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will i have to buy another key?

gritty meadow Aug 31, 2020, 10:02 PM

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now you have first hand experience in why it is NOT recommended to update the bios unless you absolutely have to.

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depends on your key.

neat estuary Aug 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I honestly don’t know how a bios update could possibly affect the hard drive. I’d be curious if I stuck the drive in a different pc if it would boot up.

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 10:19 PM

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well i dont have another pc with an m.2 slot

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AnimeShrug

neat estuary Aug 31, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Ya idk. I guess if it isn’t important stuff on their you could format it with windows media and reinstall. But this is pretty weird.

fair fossil Aug 31, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Hi

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Can someone help me with ordering the right mem0ry

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For my new computer ?

slate seal Aug 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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still downloading the installation media...

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taking so long

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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What do I do when I have 2 red lights on my mobo for cpu and ram just installed new ones

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 12:41 AM

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So I installed a new cpu is it possible that it could pull to much wattage out of my pc for it to display everything is running but I put in my new cpu which is compatible and it doesn't allow me to do anything it won't even display any tips? I already plan on buying a new power supply but is there anything I am doing wrong so I can put it in now or do I have to wait?

gritty meadow Sep 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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please try that question again, and please separate the sections. Because what you just posted reads like 3-6 different, but semi related questions rolled into 1.

deep vigil Sep 1, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Lmao wat

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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which should i get, corsair vengeance rgb 32gb 3200mhz cl16 or trident z rgb 32gb 3600 mhz cl16? For gaming and streaming on intel cpu btw

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Whichever is cheaper

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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not much of a difference between 3600mhz and 3200mhz right?

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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cl16?

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Intel, quite slight compared to AMD, some like 2% difference still there

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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timings

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Cas-Latency

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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the 3600 is a little faster then

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ye ik

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Depends on price

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whichever is cheaper

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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^

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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if same price, buy faster ram because why not

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 2:16 AM

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alright ty

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I almost got 2x8 GB sticks of 3600 Mhz CL18 for $53 but the shop didn't support paypal payments 200Sad

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 2:17 AM

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._.

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 2:18 AM

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wait they're the same bruh

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just saw the chart

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Is 3200mhz memory cl16 good for an Intel build? I hear 3600 is good for amd but is it much better for Intel? my store is all sold out of 3600 that will fit my cooler :(

eternal turtle Sep 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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would a i7 2600 be worth it over a i5 2400

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613 vs 419

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pts in r 15

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 11:10 AM

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I now see my question was basically answered above

stiff kraken Sep 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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anyone know how well intel stock cooler does on an i5-10400 with power limits removed?

copper pike Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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is amd stock cooler good?

split copper Sep 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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yes

copper pike Sep 1, 2020, 2:06 PM

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from rate 1 to 10 how much would you recommend it?

gritty meadow Sep 1, 2020, 2:07 PM

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on a scale of "free to free"? its a 10

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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you'd have to compensate heavily with higher cost to really make a good difference in thermals

gritty meadow Sep 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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in thermals? agreed. In noise? some investment is needed yes

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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stock cooler pog GWseremePeepoHappy

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intel not pog tho

stone jolt Sep 1, 2020, 3:49 PM

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If I'm just gaming and not streaming 16gb of 3200 should be okay right?

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Any specific ram that works best with Ryzen?

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 3:58 PM

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3600mhz cl16

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Optimal

lavish hawk Sep 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Is GTX 710 (2gb) okat for playing gta 5,pubg and pes 2020 with i3 9100f?

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Pls help me out.

chrome jolt Sep 1, 2020, 6:18 PM

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pubg isnt optimized

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my i7-7700 with 1060 3gb cant run it any more. cpu at 100% and it crashes

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so prob not

modern tundra Sep 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I don’t know how you can’t run it with that I’ve got a 4690k and I can run it at 50-60 fps

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@lavish hawk Harsh that should be enough for chugging at 30-45 FPS id say

warm fulcrum Sep 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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will a 3700x and a 3070 bottleneck?

modern tundra Sep 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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it depends completely on the games your playing

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but short answer, no

warm fulcrum Sep 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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cod, BF. Totol war. R6 seige etc.

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total

modern tundra Sep 1, 2020, 7:09 PM

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okay, no you definetly shouldnt bottleneck with that combo

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those are all gpu intensive except total war

warm fulcrum Sep 1, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yeah. Basically all the new crap coming out. watch dogs AC valhalla etc.

modern tundra Sep 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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you should be just peachy at over 120 fps with that combo in pretty much everything from what the 3070 sounds like

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honestly i would wait for benchmarks and AMD to release to make a decision tho

warm fulcrum Sep 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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well it has 5888 cude cores. They said its better then the 2080ti

lethal glacier Sep 1, 2020, 7:29 PM

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What’s a good b550 motherboard?

modern tundra Sep 1, 2020, 7:31 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144325

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this too https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145213

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but that m atx

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if you got a bigger budget, id go for the msi tomahawk too

heady root Sep 1, 2020, 7:34 PM

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b550 phantom gaming whenever it goes back down to 115

neat estuary Sep 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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All the B550s at 150$ and up can handle the biggest chip AMD makes, but to save money their are decent boards at the lower ranges too.

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Woo, just won one of these https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-PRO-AC-rev-10#kf

GIGABYTE

B550 AORUS PRO AC (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

AMD B550 AORUS Motherboard with True 12+2 Phases Digital VRM, Fins-Array Heatsink, Direct-Touch Heatpipe, Dual PCIe 4.0/3.0 x4 M.2 with Thermal Guards, Inte...

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Nice!

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Pretty neat mobo

naive pendant Sep 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I had been looking at going with a mATX or ITX board, but I couldn't say no to this one.

neat estuary Sep 1, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Ya its a nice board. But i had to RMA mine

floral void Sep 1, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hey guys, if i were to get a new 3070 that is coming out in october, how powerful would my processor have to be?

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I don't really know much about AMD but I think that would be my option.

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 10:36 PM

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No requirements, and to know bottleneck in certain games and such, we'll need to see reviews that'll come out somewhat soon

floral void Sep 1, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I just don

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Don

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WORDS

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I just don't want to bottleneck either of my components to hell.

full flame Sep 1, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Gotta wait for some benchmarks

floral void Sep 1, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Ok

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When will those be out?

hollow thorn Sep 1, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Whenever reviewers get reviewer samples

floral void Sep 1, 2020, 10:39 PM

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So soon?

stoic pasture Sep 1, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I’m having trouble wrapping my head around PCIe 4. Since these new cards support PCIe 4, will there be a performance penalty if the motherboard doesn’t support PCIe 4? I know many of the z series motherboards don’t have it.

floral void Sep 1, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Since they already have already set a release date, and the earliest is october.

full flame Sep 1, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Iirc reviews often go out right around release dates, but idk

tranquil vector Sep 1, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Quick question. If the desktop I'm setting up turns on (without pressing the case power button) as soon as the PSU is switched on, is it the mobo or the PSU that's messed up? Anyone ever have this problem?

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Is your power switch defective?. unplug it it and see if it still happens.. If it doesnt then the power switch is bad

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Do I need a pcie 4.0 for a 3090

tranquil vector Sep 2, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yeah, it turns on by itself whether I have the front panel power button connected or not

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So even with the Power SW cable disconnected, it still turns itself on once PSU is turned on

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Its the motherboard

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google that and see if their is a setting to change

tranquil vector Sep 2, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Yup 😦 I just tried with a different power supply. Same problem

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It was the ASRock B450M Pro 4, so I'm surprised it's DOA

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It also, powers itself down like 10 secs later

shell wave Sep 2, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Does anyone know when the 3300x processor will be back in stock?

warm fulcrum Sep 2, 2020, 3:19 AM

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i have a question for someone

coral locust Sep 2, 2020, 3:20 AM

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does anybody knows if the b450 aourus pro wifi comes with ryzen 3000 bios ready?

warm fulcrum Sep 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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will the 3700x and the 3080 bottleneck?

proud pier Sep 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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probably not

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@warm fulcrum it should be fine

warm fulcrum Sep 2, 2020, 3:28 AM

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ok hopefully

copper badge Sep 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Is there any major difference between the b450 and b550 chipsets other than PCIE gen 4 support?

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It's been a while since I took a look at the comparisons

lavish hawk Sep 2, 2020, 7:22 AM

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@lavish hawk Harsh that should be enough for chugging at 30-45 FPS id say
@modern tundra
Thanks

modern tundra Sep 2, 2020, 2:52 PM

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np

tawny surge Sep 2, 2020, 3:22 PM

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when do you think the new ryzens will drop

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 3:23 PM

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youll probably be able to buy one by november

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late november

modern tundra Sep 2, 2020, 3:43 PM

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i wish

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Just in time for me to be ordering my new chip

tawny surge Sep 2, 2020, 3:58 PM

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isnt the announcment speculated at being this month

umbral fog Sep 2, 2020, 5:05 PM

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thats really because of the 18 month cycles so far

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i'd hope its this month considering i want a 3070, but who knows at this point

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM

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What memory slots will allow Dulle channel for the b450m ds3h

crude flax Sep 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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1 and 3 2 and 4

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for the memory

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📎 maxresdefault.png

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like this

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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So 1 and 3

crude flax Sep 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yes

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 5:49 PM

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nice

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I like that colloring

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very intuitive GWseremePeepoHappy

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Can someone help

deep vigil Sep 2, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@crude flax @topaz shuttle you should use 2 and 4

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not 1 and 3

crude flax Sep 2, 2020, 6:12 PM

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O I thought either or was fine

deep vigil Sep 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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common practice 2 and 4

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Ok

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What is this it's one of my front panel connector

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📎 20200902_142615.jpg

dark geyser Sep 2, 2020, 6:34 PM

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is there any marking on it?

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@topaz shuttle looks like sata power

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Plug it into one of the Sata power cables on your PSU. It will power the front LEDs. If it’s like my 500dx you will not be able to control them with software. Just with the button

finite elm Sep 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Do you think the 4th gen ryzens and mobos will be out by September 2021?

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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4th gen is supposed to be out later this year, you mean 5th gen?@finite elm

finite elm Sep 2, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I mean its rumors its supposed to be out until we get a confirmed release date. my question is specific for 4th gens and just what you think lol

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4th gen Ryzen 9 refresh will probably be out by then if they start coming out this year

neon geyser Sep 2, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Anyone knownof this ballistix kit is rev e?
BL2K8G32C16U4B

weak crag Sep 2, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Hi, recently ive turned my pc on

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and i have using 10gb of ram out of 16

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anyone no why?

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 8:36 PM

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check what programs you have running. its as simple as that.

velvet wraith Sep 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Will i be good to keep my Ryzen 7 1700 for the 3080’or get 3700x

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I recommend you upgrade cpu

velvet wraith Sep 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@neat estuary What should I get?

quaint current Sep 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

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eh i'd at least get the gpu before upgrading to see if you actually need the upgrade

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Isnt it a 4 core?

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I would actually just wait for benchmarks personally

quaint current Sep 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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1700 is 8 core

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Then just wait for benchmarks

quaint current Sep 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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boost is just kinda low https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-1700

AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700

vestal rose Sep 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I am looking for results to expect from a CPU for compiler build times?

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 10:55 PM

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what compiler

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something like GCC? @vestal rose

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Can you suggest me a best in budget motherboard (Wifi) for 3600XT.

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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why 3600xt?

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would suggest 3600 or 3600x

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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@main pulsar I already have 3600XT hanging on my table

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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rip

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Why rip ?

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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shouldve gotten the 3700x then

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because its like 40 dollars more for literally nothing

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also, this is why you buy components all at once and not one at a time

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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also, dont hang your cpu's

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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yeah, thats mean

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anyway, is there a certain board size your looking for or do you not care?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089VZFWHB

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this board is pretty good

vestal rose Sep 2, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Visual Studio and Eclipse for c++, java , javascript ,php, opengl, etc.

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:01 PM

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@main pulsar i suggested that @vestal rose should have a bit of google time, because he has all the details for figuring out which compiler etc etc

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 11:01 PM

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3700x is priced at 390 dollars in my country... In USA it's 289.

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I bought mine for 230$ months ago

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 11:02 PM

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so how much did you pay for that 3600xt?

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

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320

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Dollara

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

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i assume thats not usd

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so what country do you live in, and what places can you order from?

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Hardwares are a bit costly here bro

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India

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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well, idk what you use to buy components, but really any AM4 board will suffice

vestal rose Sep 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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@main pulsar where you replying to me (board and size)

main pulsar Sep 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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like the one i posted is good here, but idk what the pricing is like from where you would buy it

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no i wasnt

naive pendant Sep 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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@main pulsar thanks. Much appreciated..

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Today was my first ever build and it posted on the first try

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Congrats!

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I remember my first.. i think i bragged about it to all my friends for months😆

hollow basin Sep 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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is there something wrong with just plugging a motherboard into the power supply and stuff on top of the cardboard from inside the box and testing it before I put it in the case

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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No Danny.. Its actually recommended

hollow basin Sep 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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yeah that's what I thought

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I did that, and now this motherboard isn't turning on at all

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I dunno why I'm having such crap luck. this is the 2nd one in like 3 days I've had problems with

topaz shuttle Sep 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Me to@neat estuary

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Denny you know you have to cross 2 pins to turn it on right? @hollow basin

hollow basin Sep 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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yeah.the ones for the power switch

neat estuary Sep 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Watch some vids on it it.. Their are several reseons it might not post

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok I was told to come in here because I have a question before I purchase on newegg. I have an Asus M4A79XTD Evo Motherboard and would like to upgrade some components on it but need some help. I am not sure it supports m.2 pci SSD cards/drives so I am hoping you can enlighten me on this, if this motherboard supports it or not. Thanks

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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your best bet is just getting a 2.5inch ssd

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because that board is VERY old by now

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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if anyone could help me understand if it supports it, I could not seem to find any info on the official website about m.2 support.

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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the board is from before we even thought about stuff like m.2 drives

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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yeah but I would like the speed increase if possible

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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it wont work

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it is as simple as that

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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If it doesn't have a M.2 port, there's nowhere to plug it in

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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your greatest limit on that board is the CPU

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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are there any other choices for a high spped ssd via PCI slot though for this older board?

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I would suggest against it, as Naed said, a SATA SSD would likely be your best option.

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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just about any modern 2.5 ssd will be "close enough" to the limit

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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speed

rain compass Sep 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Your speed increase is minimal

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you save like 2 seconds

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if you want an M.2 then upgrade your MOBO

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simple as that

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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There are tasks where it does matter when lots of files are being transfered.

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But yes, most real-time task difference between SATA SSD and M.2 NVMe SSD are just seconds

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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exactly that is what I am after Mr1111

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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and as i said, you cannot bend physics

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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What exactly do you do?

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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your board is the limit.

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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music stuff

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recording, vst's etc..

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Naed, there's also the possibility where SOMEHOW like an optane drive might make sense, so I just want to dig around real quick.

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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its got to read from the disk alot

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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your chipset will quite literally chop its own noggin off, and run away screaming

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Lol

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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optane is NOT supported on that

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this is from before IMC

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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(PCIe Storage)

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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this is from when we had southbridges

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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oh damn

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yea okay that's pretty old

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I don't even know what a "PATA device" is, I'll leave it at that

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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IDE hdd (ribbon cables) @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Interesting

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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was thinking about upgrading to a server for better performance, is HP a good choice?

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Well, you might want to look at some more modern hardware.

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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@hollow thorn

📎 unknown.png

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Oh wow

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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right side is the connector for the cable

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molex on the left

quaint current Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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lot of pins

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Big sata

gritty meadow Sep 2, 2020, 11:59 PM

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tops out at 133

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megs/sec that is

hollow thorn Sep 2, 2020, 11:59 PM

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It only has SATA 3 Gb/s too

lyric kraken Sep 2, 2020, 11:59 PM

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looking into HP proliant, are they any good?

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:00 AM

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@lyric kraken HP makes both horrendous and nice stuff

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the brand name does not tell you anything

hollow thorn Sep 3, 2020, 12:00 AM

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What's your budget, and real use case again?

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

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unsure on budget for now but music recording, gaming etc..

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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figure out a budget, then ask again

quaint current Sep 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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modelvbrand

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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without a budget, we cannot recommend anything

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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maybe around 1k or $1,200 could be more though..

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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well, we can, but it is just a endless whack-a-mole session then

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and what exactly is that budget supposed to cover?

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:04 AM

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not sure yet, tell me if you think this is any good - https://www.newegg.com/p/2NS-0006-35VF8?Item=9SIAA65AYH0014

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HP ProLiant ML30 Gen10 Tower Server with Intel Xeon E-2224, 16GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, RAID

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:04 AM

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its a good waste of money

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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why though?

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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slow components

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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what would be better in the same price range ?

rain compass Sep 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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if you're looking for a server then something better

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if you're looking for a PC then something way better

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lmao

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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lol

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ok but what is the next question?

hollow thorn Sep 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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@lyric kraken just remember the older the hardware the slower it runs as a general rule of thumb

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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what brand and model?

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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please answer the question above first @lyric kraken

hollow thorn Sep 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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newer generally means faster

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And also, we like building our own PCs around here

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and a 900$ PC built from current hardware can run circles around that server you linked :P

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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right I agree with that but not sure what is out right now I been out of the pc scene for many years.. usually after I build a new one I just use it and that is it but now that I need a new one I am wondering what is going to be a good choice because I am not sure that I want to build another one. I would rather just get an already built one I think if possible. unless you think I can build one around that price with better parts? it seems that building one would be more money though..

hollow thorn Sep 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Prebuilts always take a cut for, well, building it

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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as i asked:

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"and what exactly is that budget supposed to cover?"

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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everything, I mean the basics, an m.2 ssd for os, at least 16gb of ram, processor, case, mobo.

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that should be it I think..

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oh and power supply..

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that should be it though

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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so no GPU?

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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haha got me..

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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not out to get you

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for all i know, you could have one you wanted to keep

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my task/job is to figure out what you actually NEED

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and then we can talk about things

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but until i figure out what you need? specifics are useless :)

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

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forgot.. yeah I guess maybe, do you think I can be fine with onboard graphics if not gaming current gen games.. just retro gaming? or would I benefit in speed somehow with other stuff in general?

gritty meadow Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

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is the used market near you active?

lyric kraken Sep 3, 2020, 12:14 AM

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ok let me do this part by part and start with motherboard first..