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prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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k

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thanks!

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I think meshify c fits 3x120mm in front so P12

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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got it

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are they rgb

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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No

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Great airflow tho

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:30 PM

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is rgb worth it?

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im spending $1000+

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i kinda want it to look like it

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and for the Arctic P12 do i need a fan controller

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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the mobo should have a header so no u dont need a controller

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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no

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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is the Arctic P12 pwm?

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is pwm even worth the $

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I love my 1600$ PC without any rgb fans

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pwm is nice, should still be 8$ a fan tho

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:33 PM

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yeah a lot of people here dont care for rgb

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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hmm

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im planning on having rgb memory and maybe a strip at the top of the case

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not 2 sure how that will look

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i feel like i need to go all or none

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I have rgb trident z neo ram

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it looks pretty neat when I leave rgb on

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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thats what im looking at

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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without other rgb

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:35 PM

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16gb 3600

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:35 PM

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But seriously trident z neo rgb is soooo goood

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its mesmerizing

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i heard it is sdram

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what does that mean

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:36 PM

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like sodimm? I don't think so

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:37 PM

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SDRAM DDR4

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thats what is says on amazon

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:39 PM

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ima ignore it

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:40 PM

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it runs at 3600 mhz on xmp tho?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:40 PM

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ye

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:40 PM

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k

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 9:18 PM

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does a pcie 3 work with pcie 4 slots?

warped scroll Aug 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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yes

amber lantern Aug 19, 2020, 5:04 AM

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is the bm550 mb any good

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by msi

eternal helm Aug 19, 2020, 5:28 AM

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modelbrand

quaint current Aug 19, 2020, 5:32 AM

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modelvbrand

hollow thorn Aug 19, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@amber lantern which exact one

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There's like 5

amber lantern Aug 19, 2020, 4:23 PM

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MSI MAG B550M Mortar Gaming Motherboard

vestal pier Aug 19, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Is the 3200g good for roblox/fortnite gaming

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Paired with 1060 3gb

midnight pollen Aug 19, 2020, 7:16 PM

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kind of weird to pair 3200g with a gpu if your not using the integrated graphics, id rather go for 1600af or 3300x if you can find for good price, maybe even 3100

main pulsar Aug 19, 2020, 7:18 PM

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^

meager pecan Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Anyone here familiar with AM4 pinout?

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Looking to see if an AZ_BITCLK pin is vital

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Seeing as how I can only find one AZ_BITCLK on the entire pinout diagram, I am guessing it is

main pulsar Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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rip

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oh, new role colors too

digital kernel Aug 19, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Did you lose a pin Hyper?

elfin phoenix Aug 19, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Anyone know what what thunderbolt card is compatible with the Asus ROG Maximus xii hero?

digital kernel Aug 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Like a PCIe thunderbolt card?

elfin phoenix Aug 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@digital kernel Yes

digital kernel Aug 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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What chipset? x570?

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On the motherboard

elfin phoenix Aug 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Z490

digital kernel Aug 19, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Doesn't z490 already have a thunderbolt?

midnight pollen Aug 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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i tink it av type c but not thunderbolt but dik

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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has thunderbolt hedadr

elfin phoenix Aug 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Nope , it does have type c not thunderbolt but it does have a thunderbolt header

digital kernel Aug 19, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Dang

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Any pcie card should work

prisma blade Aug 20, 2020, 12:32 AM

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how is the b550 aorus elite?

digital kernel Aug 20, 2020, 12:33 AM

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It's good

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It's a motheboard

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It works

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It has decent VRMs

prisma blade Aug 20, 2020, 12:33 AM

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is it a good value for $160?

digital kernel Aug 20, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Could be cheaper

prisma blade Aug 20, 2020, 12:34 AM

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good alternative?

neat estuary Aug 20, 2020, 12:36 AM

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The MSI mortar seems to rule the 150$ spot

prisma blade Aug 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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should form factor have any impact on my decision?

digital kernel Aug 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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How many pcie cards will you be running?

tacit hemlock Aug 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Unless you have many pcie devices, its mostly preference

digital kernel Aug 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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mini itx can be tight for clearance with big coolers though

prisma blade Aug 20, 2020, 12:58 AM

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pcie as in gpu?

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and what about the b550 tomahawk?

frank stirrup Aug 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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any recommendations for motherboards compatible with the r5 3600? i’m looking at the b450 tomahawk max but was also recommended the b450m pro4

heady root Aug 20, 2020, 3:37 AM

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might as well just get a b550

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asrock b550 phantom gaming was around $115 last time i checked

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and theres a few others around the $130 range

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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msi vdh pro b550 is like a tomahawk but matx

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at least vrm wise

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its like 110

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honestly b550 is better value than b450 rn

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on the cheap end

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what the heck

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the 2300x only became non oem

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this yeah

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year*

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in march

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man these pcpartpicker build make me sad

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and not even in envy

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i don't understand how these people can chose parts so badly

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its like they pick parts worse than a prebuilt does

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intentionally

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and pay more than the prebuilt

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wait

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i'm in cpus chat

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when did i get here?

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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bro who you talkin to bro

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:56 AM

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no idea

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i thought i was in general

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and ranted about builds

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i didn't even know when i switched

naive pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Amd E2-9000e, vs Amd E2-7110? 9000e has 4gb, idk if its ddr3, 1866mhz, and 7110 has 8gb ddr3, 800mhz?

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:01 AM

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@prisma blade The MSI Mag B550M Mortar WIFI is a excellant mATX board for the CPU you choose or any of the ones above it actually. The MSI MAG B550M Bazooka is perfect for the 3600 or 3700x as well in the MATX format. IF your not after the MATX format and want ATX the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk is a great board for any of the RYZEN CPU's ( I have three different friends running that board with 3600x, a 3700x and a 3900x on the tomahawk board, all of them rav on it and its features)

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Ahem

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B 5 5 0 P h a n t o m G a m i n g 4

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Yes

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if you want that one go for it

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I don't feel comfortable recommending 150$ B550 boards considering the 150$ X570-p exists.

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I hope its built better that its x570 brother

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well - I can tell you, you get what you pay for

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:03 AM

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oh rip it went out of stock

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It gave you a lot for what you paid for when I checked

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nice audio codec

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decent vrms

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all the standard features

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:04 AM

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and they are solid boards with great features ... there was a reason the Tomahawk and mortar in the 450 chipset where sought after and sold out boards 😉

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:05 AM

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For the VRMs...
For some reason...

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:05 AM

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I have had some bad experiances with the Phantom line

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:05 AM

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That's fair, the x570 phantom gaming 4 was pretty bad

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:06 AM

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so i don't normally recommend it . but if you had better luck then the 3 we went thru where that toss of a coin

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:06 AM

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But the B550 phantom gaming 4 does bring a lot for a 115$ B550 board

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:06 AM

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and on a tight budget its a good option

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:07 AM

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imo you're always on a tight budget :P
unless you want to spend 3000$

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:07 AM

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but if your budget allows for $40 more ... then I think those are more beefier and allow for more

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ROFL

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:08 AM

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There's always a lot of stuff I'd prioritize upgrading before the motherboard

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So I find the cheap but good enough options.

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:08 AM

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i mean its not like I was throwing the b550 gaming carbon wifi out there 🤣

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Kinda sad it went out of stock though, the next in line is MSI B550m Pro-vdh wifi

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hey hey hey I have a b450 gaming pro carbon ac
that I bought for 120$

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But yea the pro carbon line is pretty expensive for what it is

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The b550m pro vdh wifi doesn't have a great vrm, doesn't have a good audio codec, is mATX, but does have a good amount of connectivity on top of having wifi as a bonus

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 11:11 AM

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yupp

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Actually - I was disappointed in the pricing of the b550 line overall

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They all got jacked up in price , and if your diligent you can often get a the full blown X570 counterpart cheaper

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The Aurous B550 Boards are excellent ones as well, but they are definitely priced on the high side

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Your points are well taken tho @hollow thorn , Touché sir .. Touché

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 11:23 AM

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@winged ibex and they are solid boards with great features ... there was a reason the Tomahawk and mortar in the 450 chipset where sought after and sold out boards 😉 <- the only reason that the Tomahawks sold as well is that people strongly dislike thinking for themselves. Value wise it was NOT a good selection of boards

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99.99% of the people that bought a tomahawk board are not EVER going to OC. and that makes the main feature of the board a moot point. And if you remove the VRM from it. There is nothing but a sad looking bunch of mediocre parts at a too high price.

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 12:04 PM

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That is your opinion and your entitled to it

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Everyone i know with them are OC'ing and love them

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Well, it's just that OCing doesn't really take full advantage of the VRMs on tomahawk boards unless you're pushing it pretty hard on water or exotic cooling. That's also luck involved with the silicon of your chip with how far you can push it.

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But the point is, the avg tomahawk board user is either gonna slap on like a simple 4.2ghz all core or use pbo

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And not really use the good VRMs they paid for

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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and as i said, IF they are not using the VRM. There is nothing interesting left on the board

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I swear the new vdh wifi has the exact same VRMs as the b450 tomahawk

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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shhhh, dont tell the tomahawk zealots

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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It's not atx though which I guess sucks

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But it has WiFi

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I mean, b450 APro was same VRMs as Tomahawk

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Apparently only difference was that it didn't come with an M2 screw

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Lol

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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And looks

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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You guys see that stuff Intel was pushing out?

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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pretty vague question. But I dont think so?

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havent heard much of the real new stuff

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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They pushed a visual saying they were faster but cheaper

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Only comparing the new i9 and like 3900x though

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Which in that case they are exactly wrong

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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oh. Was it "faster" via no benchmarks?

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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But at the same time kinda misleading when comparing both complete lines of CPUs

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Let me check

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Ill probs also look into the absolutely fun intel marketing soon as well

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Oh no it's the 3900xt and the i7

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But still

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Who buys a 3900xt for gaming

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📎 1597941535451627679662918761033.jpg

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On 1080p

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:39 PM

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people who play anno 1800, and other rts games that eat up cpu

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will get a 3900x

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but thats just about it

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i mean yeah, intel games better

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:40 PM

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It is

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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but yeah, the fact that their baseline is the 3900xt is stupid lol

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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But the lower you go in budget it's better on and side

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Also it's 1080p benchmarks

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With what I assume is 2080tis

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yeah it is

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM

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says 2080Ti at top

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Ah I see it

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM

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they interestingly gave AMD the advantage with RAM tho. Surprising

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main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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they probably ran the 10700k on a locked board lmao

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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See VaLuE

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So what you can put a 3900x on a tomahawk or similar quality pretty comfortably right?

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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cheaper, we arent doing PBO

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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But a z490 is a z490

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I think I've seen some for relatively cheap

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But not sure I'd put a 10700k in it

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Anyway they aren't wrong in gaming at 1080p

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But if they wanted to push value they could've pushed the 10600k

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So I just don't understand what they want

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Because 10600k matches 10700k in gaming

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 4:49 PM

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they want people to buy the 10700k rather then 10600k most likely

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Month old prices too

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Even the xt dropped $20 since then

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What's the difference in the 3900x and xt model anyway

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100mhz and better binning?

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:51 PM

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yes

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so not worth it

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unless your extreme ocing

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Doesn't even come with cooler

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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cuz people buying it will be ocing

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and will get their own cooler anyway

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so need to bundle something that will never be used

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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A 3900x is $70 cheaper too

main pulsar Aug 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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exactly

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:53 PM

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But whatever better binning better OCs for the enthusiasts

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But really the price jump narrows the price gap between the i7 and 3900x

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Really everywhere but microcenter I'm seeing it for ~410

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So like $20 gap between it and the 3900x

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But I guess they really wanted to push all that VaLuE using old prices and mismatched comparisons

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Is the 3900x even that much better over the 3600 and 3700x in most games?

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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@umbral fog keep in mind, any slides that are NOT linked on the bigger sites is by way of the intel hack a while ago, fairly suspect.

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Intel released it

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 4:58 PM

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not saying they didnt, but i would like to see the official press release link [Edit: dont -> didnt]

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I can't get the page to translate but it looks like it was from a presentation

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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from "when"?

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and what site are you looking at?

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Yeah a recent presentation from APAC

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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"recent" is not a "when"

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when = date

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again, i am NOT saying they didnt make this presentation. Just that i would like to see the actual press release link.

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because the amount of FUD going around (on all sides) is beyond silly at this point.

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Let me see if I can find a specific one from intel

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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you could start by answering what site you found that above slide on

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Two publications yoinked the slides from benchlife who I assume had a representative at the meeting because of the presentation picture

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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names?

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Let me see I was pushed to these article by Google but the first one recommended was wccftech

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Just went on Google chrome this morning and was recommended the article

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:08 PM

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wcf has a tendency to play fast and loose with truth as the victim

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in case you are not aware.

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Huh

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I doubt it's like super doctored stuff considering the volume of slide outside of the one I showed but that's a new nugget of info to keep in my mind

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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you know how some sites should be taken with a pinch of salt?

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they should be taken with about a cargo boat worths of salt

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mind, they DO get things right at times. But ... yeah :)

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I mean it's not a super serious matter

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But I just saw the article pushed to me and I remembered Intel did stuff like this months ago

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So I was just like oh well it's Intel being Intel again

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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it is serious, in the sense that IF it is not a true slide, you are spreading FUD.

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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You want the link to the of slides?

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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do they talk about a actual source?

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and sure, just pm me the link :)

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Because I just saw a slide that as far as I knew was real and had some dumb info on it

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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aye, that is how it normally starts spreading :)

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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This was where they pulled the slides from https://benchlife.info/intel-talks-about-the-advantages-of-core-mobile-processors-emphasizing-that-real-application-performance-and-power-management-are-better-than-rivals/

BenchLife

bisheng

Intel 再談 Core 行動處理器優勢，強調真實應用效能與電源管理優於對手 - BenchLife

Intel 延續前兩周淺談的真實性能議題，進一步談論更多內部性能測試、分析結果，包含 H 系列行動處理器、U 系列行動處理器、S 系列桌上型處理器等產品。

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More of the slides are comparing the mobile chips

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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aye

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that is a mess of an article

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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The wccftech one really just picked the ones comparing the desktop chips

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:21 PM

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and by mess, i mean: there is no location specific info in that article at all

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Hmm

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Guess we'll find out if a more reliable source gets hands on slides

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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aye aye

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i fully expect it to be digested by some of the forums i normally frequent

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i know there are some native readers of chinese there too

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which also helps

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Obviously I'm not trying to push fake slides I just saw something dumb looking that looked real compared to previous Intel slide from two months ago

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If they are real they're really trying to twist things I. Their marketing

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:26 PM

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aye aye :)

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not blaming you mate :)

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as for marking twisting things: that is just how marketing works (and that is for all companies involved). None of them are free of guilt on that one

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah I think that last big Intel marketing thing was the comparison of the laptop cpus

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While having the stronger gpu on the Intel machine

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But then again these kind of slides aren't really meant to be seen by us, I assume partly because we'll call bs if we see it

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:30 PM

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sometimes they are, sometimes they are not

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remember: not all journalists are equal in their understanding of what they cover

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I mean that's especially true in gaming journalists

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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that is especially true in ALL areas

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Or the verge build guy

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Man that was so cringe to watch

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Still not sure how that went through multiple editors

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:34 PM

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i regularly work with really really smart people. But they are focused smart

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they are about as smart as a wet piece of leek when they move outside of those focused areas

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I mean you don't have to be particularly smart to know zip ties aren't tweezers

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:35 PM

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there is video evidence that you do have to have "some" knowledge to know that.

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Cringe

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It was a funny video though

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Even if it made me cringe hard

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But seriously if they just copied a PC build video on YouTube and did the build perfectly it definitely wouldn't have draw much attention, but acting like you know what you're doing and doing it completely wrong was a bad look

gritty meadow Aug 20, 2020, 5:40 PM

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well, look around on social media

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there are PLENTY of examples of people doing exactly what they did, without getting in trouble for it

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I don't really like looking at social media

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It's honestly irritating

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I think it was more of because a name brand did something bad

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I mean the verge was supposed to be a tech thing right?

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And they was a massive audience

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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It's just the large audience part that irritated people

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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At least good memes came from it

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But looking back on it, it was probably rushed

hollow thorn Aug 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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YouTube is a platform where people assume creditability and popularity are the same

umbral fog Aug 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Considering the guy was hoping his Swiss army knife had a screwdriver

tulip talon Aug 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yes

naive pendant Aug 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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does this mobo come with wifi

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119152

amber lantern Aug 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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no

quaint current Aug 20, 2020, 7:44 PM

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^

deep vigil Aug 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Wat

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Noooo

drowsy nymph Aug 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Worth upgrading to a 6600 if I already have a 6500?

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I'm guessing probably not worth I just wanted more opinions.

quaint current Aug 20, 2020, 7:56 PM

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6600 wut

drowsy nymph Aug 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Intel I5 6600

long geyser Aug 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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if it's $5 more then maybe

teal iron Aug 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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hey is this a good deal?

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3700X-Gaming-B550-PLUS/dp/B08B4P362H/ref=pd_sbs_147_1/141-1739031-3962434?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B08B4P362H&pd_rd_r=725f92e6-8041-4ce3-8169-832beb83b74c&pd_rd_w=XmxVK&pd_rd_wg=cZFPz&pf_rd_p=b65ee94e-1282-43fc-a8b1-8bf931f6dfab&pf_rd_r=JPZPMWH2ZM459PM70HZW&psc=1&refRID=JPZPMWH2ZM459PM70HZW

winged ibex Aug 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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its right about the going price for each componant

teal iron Aug 20, 2020, 10:13 PM

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what about this?

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https://www.cpusolutions.com/store/pc/Tested-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-8-Core-4-4Ghz-Max-Boost-AM4-ASUS-Prime-X570-P-Motherboard-16GB-3200Mhz-RAM-Combo-462p5727.htm

neat estuary Aug 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Same. Going price. The only places I occasionally see a small savings on the package deal is Newegg and Micro Center. I’ve never seen a savings otherwise

sterile isle Aug 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Hey, I kind of messed up. I went into bios and made a accidental change. It said do you want to go from auto to auto. And I thought ok no change and save exit. Now comp won't boot.

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I don't know how to revert back without change it all back to default settings. I bought the comp pre built and don't want to lose those settings someone else did in the bios.

charred venture Aug 21, 2020, 1:06 AM

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google how to cmos flash

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and do it

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its really easy

sterile isle Aug 21, 2020, 1:06 AM

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What does that even mean?

upbeat lichen Aug 21, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Unless they did some really specific overclocking settings, resetting the bios won't put you out a lot, all you'd probably need to do is re-enable XMP for your memory.

sterile isle Aug 21, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Won't I lose changes that were made on the board from the Newegg tech because it was overclocked

upbeat lichen Aug 21, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Aha, it was OC'd. If you can, it might be worth reaching out to Newegg Support and see if the techs make actual notes anywhere about the settings that were applied.

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Because I'm sure they have to anticipate that a machine will have the BIOS reset for various reasons.

sterile isle Aug 21, 2020, 1:09 AM

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When I looked at new support it brought me here

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New egg support

upbeat lichen Aug 21, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I mean, you can DM @glad socket and ask there, but that's probably going to be the same as sending their support an email.

sterile isle Aug 21, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I'll try

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Thanks

kindred stratus Aug 21, 2020, 5:23 AM

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hey does anybody know about dram prices supposedly dropping?

digital kernel Aug 21, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Probably will happen at some point

tacit hemlock Aug 21, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Very descriptive answer lmao

neat estuary Aug 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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A lot of news stories on the web mentioning over supply. Also I just bought the xpg 1tb for 112$. It is is dropping across the board I think

naive pendant Aug 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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how good are the Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X processors?

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for the i9 family

hollow thorn Aug 21, 2020, 4:11 PM

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For doing what

naive pendant Aug 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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light gaming

hollow thorn Aug 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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No

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Please don't tell me you're trying to get a 9980xe for gaming

naive pendant Aug 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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someone i know is giving me a pre production i9 that would land into that section

hollow thorn Aug 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I mean if it's free what can I say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

naive pendant Aug 21, 2020, 4:20 PM

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yea that was my thought but dang everything else is really expensive :p

hollow thorn Aug 21, 2020, 4:20 PM

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If you're gaming it's prob going to be on the level of like 9900

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Some 11980xe chip

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Cramming more cores into an HEDT platform means you lose single core perf

quaint current Aug 21, 2020, 4:22 PM

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or just sell it and build a gaming rig

median nacelle Aug 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Is the Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM worth buying over similar G.Skill? Currently have G.Skill RAM but not impressed with color brightness or accuracy. Wondering if only aesthetics is the difference...

hollow thorn Aug 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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That's about it

charred venture Aug 21, 2020, 9:16 PM

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unless its much faster then nope

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check ram speeds/timings

scarlet fiber Aug 22, 2020, 1:48 AM

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G.skill is always my go to great ram great customer service

warped scroll Aug 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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G.skill is great. Their Ripjaws and Aegis are great for the price

eternal helm Aug 22, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@hollow thorn 's personal choice of ram is team RAM

warped scroll Aug 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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lmao

hollow thorn Aug 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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dark pros only

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I love G.skill

eternal helm Aug 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Same

hollow thorn Aug 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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ripjaw aegis trident all of em

eternal helm Aug 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Yeah

split copper Aug 22, 2020, 4:34 AM

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@naive pendant i7-4790 poggers weggsmug

neat estuary Aug 22, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Which CPU temp am i suppose to be useing for cooling?

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The motherboard Qled reads out the 10c lower temp

tall storm Aug 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Hey what's a good temp for 3600x at 4.4 GHZ? I have a hyper 212 rgb black

scarlet basin Aug 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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soo i told you guys about this but i ended up buying the 9980xe bc the 10980xe wasnt in stock anywhere
its in stock now and i feel like maybe i should have waited..
i feel kinda dissapointed because im not sure how much performance im losing
is there a big difference in performance?

hollow thorn Aug 22, 2020, 4:13 PM

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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i9-9980XE-vs-Intel-i9-10980XE/3373vs3630

scarlet basin Aug 22, 2020, 4:13 PM

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soo

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i looked at that

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im not really sure how much of a difference it is

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like is it noticable?

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or are they pretty much the same

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Im doing rendering and gaming

hollow thorn Aug 22, 2020, 4:14 PM

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it be like 5%

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mostly single core perf difference

scarlet basin Aug 22, 2020, 4:14 PM

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oh

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so its fine

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right?

hollow thorn Aug 22, 2020, 4:16 PM

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ye

midnight pollen Aug 22, 2020, 4:17 PM

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whoops

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DaHeck

gritty meadow Aug 22, 2020, 4:20 PM

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@scarlet basin consider the folly of what you are asking please.

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you are asking for someone else to make you feel good about your own lack of patience and research into a subject.

scarlet basin Aug 22, 2020, 4:20 PM

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0.0

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my b

gritty meadow Aug 22, 2020, 4:21 PM

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well, its your money

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and hopefully you learned something from it

scarlet basin Aug 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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yup

naive pendant Aug 22, 2020, 5:45 PM

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how good is this motherboard? https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x299-a-ii/p/N82E16813119213?Description=Asus LGA 2066 motherboard&cm_re=Asus_LGA 2066 motherboard-_-13-119-213-_-Product&quicklink=true

stable furnace Aug 22, 2020, 7:46 PM

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would the ryzen 5 3600 price drop to below $160 in the near future?

digital kernel Aug 22, 2020, 7:50 PM

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It's been around 160 before, so possibly

trim dust Aug 22, 2020, 7:52 PM

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did go up like 15 a weekish ago

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back down asap amd gods

slate crest Aug 22, 2020, 11:59 PM

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my MSI MEG x570 GODLIKE motherboard has 3 pcie slots and 3 m.2 slots, I have 2 m.2 drives and 1 VGA card, does it matter which slots I use?

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 12:12 AM

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use the top 2 m.2 slots and top pcie slot

slate crest Aug 23, 2020, 1:14 AM

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thank you!

tulip talon Aug 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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b

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 1:34 AM

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should i get amd ryzen 3 3100 instead of amd ryzen 5 2600

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im a little over budjet

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:13 AM

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anyone know of any motherboards that support the LGA 1155 chipset but with ddr4 memory capability. I haven't been able to find any and i really wanna keep this cpu

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:14 AM

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@naive pendant What CPU?

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Intel i7-2600

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its an older cpu but i'd rather keep using that then pay more for a newer one that wouldn't be as good idk

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Your CPU only supports DDR3

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a newer one that wouldn't be as good idk
A new one would most likely be better

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I'll get some stats up

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 2:16 AM

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behold the wonders of aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000235345829.html

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digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:16 AM

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The CPU only supports DDR3 Nachos

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 2:16 AM

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oh

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:16 AM

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It physically can't run ddr4

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 2:17 AM

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well idk why the make a mobo with it then

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:17 AM

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i saw some i5's around the 150-250 range. would it be better to get one of those?

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Possibly some other LGA1155 chip supports it, or it could just be mis-listed

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ryzen 3600 is probably your best bet for that budget

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I couldn't find benchmarks for the 2600 easily, so this is a 2600k vs AMD's lowest tier ryzen chip

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Note that the 2600k has slightly better performance than your CPU

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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guess im gonna be forced to get a new cpu then

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Here it is up against the 3600

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naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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might check micro center and see what they're selling it for

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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3100 should be about $110 to $120. 3600 would be $170 to $190

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Note that you will need a new motherboard and new ram

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yeah thats the reason i was checking for a motherboard that supported both the i7 and ddr4

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i didn't want to have to buy a new cpu but im gonna have to now

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Motherboard will run you about 90 bucks if you want wifi, ram about 60

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Do you need wifi on the motherboard?

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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not really already have an ethernet

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Cool

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16GB of ram?

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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yeah

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yhcTyk
Here you go

System Builder

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You have a GPU, right?

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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yeah but it's an old 545 with an sli bridge

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gt

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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One or two of them?

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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2

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Okay, that motherboard I listed doesn't support SLI

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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yeah

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Let me find another one rq

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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i was thinking on getting a 1650 since they're like 150

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Yeah, that's probably best

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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plus the 545's i have, have like no vram so i can't games like rainbow

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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An SLI capable motherboard is like 100-200 extra

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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yeah i figured

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Get the 1650

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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i would get a gpu from the 20 series since they're supposed to drop soon but i don't know when the 30's series is gonna drop so im proabably gonna stick with the 1650

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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30 series is probably going to announced in 9 days

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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the motherboard should fit in any case right? Im not sure cause im pretty new to this pc stuff

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Probably going to start with the high end cards and release the lower ones over the next few months

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What case do you have?

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As long as it's not a prebuilt or mITX it should work

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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it is prebuilt

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its an aurora r3

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Hmm

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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pretty old

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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hey it works with itx cases

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It's an mATX mobo

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Works with ITX, but not necessarily with all mITX

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Can you take a picture of the inside of the PC?

quaint current Aug 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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wait hecc i thought we were talking about next gen wrong convo

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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yeah i actually have a few on my phone gimme a sec. should i dm or just p[ost them here?

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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You'll need to DM them. New people aren't allowed to post pictures

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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ok

digital kernel Aug 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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It looks like the case supports mATX motherboards, but I just want to make sure

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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ok

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Rip my mobo is supposed to ship out on the 24th

mild jackal Aug 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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excuse the potato ram

signal sorrel Aug 23, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Hey everyone, what would u guys recommend? Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 5 3600x? is the .2 GHz really gonna make a difference or no? Also, are the included coolers any different? Thanks!

shadow seal Aug 23, 2020, 6:23 AM

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silicon quality mostly. higher potential overclock on the X @signal sorrel

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personally would go X on a 5

signal sorrel Aug 23, 2020, 6:24 AM

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okay, would that make much of a differnce in terms of gaming or anything?

shadow seal Aug 23, 2020, 6:24 AM

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uh the auto clocking it has is pretty good. so the difference wouldnt be insane. be a little bit

signal sorrel Aug 23, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Alright, thanks so much!

shadow seal Aug 23, 2020, 6:25 AM

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np

tall storm Aug 23, 2020, 1:23 PM

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ok idk what chat to put this in, but I have a 1 year old chromebook, it's an Acer CP311, and the keyboard is suddenly like really laggy

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i could press some buttons and it wouldn't do anything

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then others work all the time

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then there are some that sometimes work and sometimes don't

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i've already cleaned the keyboard contacts, and made sure that the ribbon cables were attached properly

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idk what to do

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:22 PM

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hi new to discord. i want to upgrade my pc. im not sure if i can just upgrade my cpu and gpu and my motherboard will be fine or do i need to make sure i upgrade the motherboard.

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also what is the difference in motherboard types does that really matter outside of intel or amd

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Basic rule of thumb is that if the parts are released 3+ years apart, they don't fit

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There's different sockets and different chipsets for different generations

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CPU+motherboard wise

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GPUs they just fit as long as there is a PCIe shot

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:24 PM

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okay so whats a chipset

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@full trail what specific motherboard do you have?

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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its a dell brand i know its lga 1155 which ive been reading is pretty outdated

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i have a i5 2400 cpu

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Think of chipset as the brain of the motherboard

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i think sandy bridge

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Like how it deals with CPU to M.2 slot connection

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So what are you looking to upgrade to?

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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thats the thing i dont know if i really need to upgrade the motherboard first and then go to the cpu

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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If you want to upgrade to a more modern CPU, you're going to have to upgrade motherboard.

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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or if i can keep the motherboard and just upgrade the cpu but from what you said with the three years i might have to upgrade that as well

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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And since i5 2500 uses ddr3 ram and modern CPUs utlize ddr4 ram, you'll have to upgrade that too

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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okay now when i upgrade the motherboard do i have to reinstall windows ten as well or is that onn the hard drive

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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So the CPU+Motherboard+Ram all has to be upgraded at once

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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thank you thats basically waht i was looking fo so ima have to upgrade them three first

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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It's always suggested you go for a clean install, usually switching motherboards makes you re-activate it.

And while you're at it, I suggest you grab a SSD as a boot drive, and install win10 on that

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I can point you to specific products if you want me to, if you give me a budget.

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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so i can install windows ten onto a ssd as a boot drive and wont have to rebuy windows ten as a whole or im going to have to figure out my product key and reinstall it all

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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One option is to buy another 3$ key, another is to find your current product key and then use that, the third option is just not activate windows, you can use most win10 functionality without activating it without a key

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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woudl you rather go with intel or amd ive read that amd is getting closer and closer to intel

midnight pollen Aug 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Software-codes.com nepwink

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Intel only for elite gamers

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Right now, for basic PCs, AMD makes a ton of sense for how much they bring to the table at the price

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Unless you use something that needs Intel, or only game on a high budget, Intel doesn't make a ton of sense

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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basic would be just playing the game surfing the web

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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First, when are you planning on getting this upgrade?

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As far as I know, new lineup of AMD chips are coming sometime in the near future

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New lineup of Nvidia GPUs are announcing at the end of this month

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:37 PM

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nvidia gpus are only for intel?

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Nope

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GPUs doesnt care about other brands

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As long as they have a pcie slot, they fit

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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oh okay good

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not really sure when but soon

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Can you give me a timeframe? Like a few weeks, or like Christmas

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If it's the latter option, it's likely worth waiting for the next generation of stuff before making a decision

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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few weeks

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I saw how Newegg had the 9900k on sale with some promos.

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In the end I ended up spending ~360$ on this processor

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Honestly I think it was definitely worth it, compared to 10th gen.

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@full trail alright so can you give me an idea of about how much you want to spend on an upgrade? Also, can you tell me what PSU you have?

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Then I can tell you a bit more about what specifically you would be looking for

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 4:01 PM

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im going to need a new psu

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why would someone need intel

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:03 PM

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hm

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Some processes heavily favor intel

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Like the Adobe stuff

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It was either premiere or Lightroom iirc where Intel chips could gain up to a 20% advantage compared to a similar ryzen chip

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Well, look at a 360$ AMD CPU compared to the 9900k
The only problem with that processor is thermals, and that's what you'e gonna get.

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Mobo price.

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I personally was gonna do an AMD build, but then Newegg dropped the price on 9900k to 430$ and had some sweet combos/promos

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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430$ is the price of a 3900x.

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Also, the asus prime was ~180$

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it wasn't with even cheaper options

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Annnd b550 boards average ~130$ ;)

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Phantom gaming 4 was 115$ but went out of stock

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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I'm just saying I am not loyal to either manufacturer. Whoever makes a good processor at my price point will get my money.

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Of course

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But processor price isn't the only thing

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Cooling and motherboard price matters too

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AMD just slap on stock cooler

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Intel you gotta buy one

fading lynx Aug 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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9900 a hot boi

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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I'm not saying 9900k at 360$ is a bad deal, there's just other factors to consider

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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yes

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Depending on circumstance 3900x+b550 can be a better solution at the same price

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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thats also the psu as well

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Anyways can you give me a budget? Prices really determined what you get

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 4:23 PM

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so basically from what ive read the cpu is everything

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and the budget is for what meaning what parts

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 4:24 PM

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The whole thing, anyways if you want to game, GPU is the main thing you worry about

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CPU just does everything else basically, where GPU doesn't really matter

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Breaking News!
Nvidia plans to enter the CPU market with their--- bzzzzz

full trail Aug 23, 2020, 4:29 PM

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2k

scarlet basin Aug 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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idk where to post thisbut if anyone wants to buy my 9980xe im open to offers. Ive never used it and its never been taken out of the packaging

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:51 PM

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how much

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does it work

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what's your price range @scarlet basin

scarlet basin Aug 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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it works--i havent opened the box

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im looking for like 1000 or something around there

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ive had it for a while but its just been sitting in the box so i figured might as well give to someone who would use it

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depending on your price range tho u might wanna go amd

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 4:57 PM

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well duh
though i think the processor is more in the 800s range these day tbh-look on the the newegg site

scarlet basin Aug 23, 2020, 4:58 PM

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lemme check

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mhm

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i bought it for 1.1k tho so i dont rlly wanna lose that much

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i bought it back in late june

tall storm Aug 23, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i love how nobody cares what i say anymore

burnt cipher Aug 23, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Ok

hollow thorn Aug 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@full trail didn't see your response there, but assuming you meant 2k USD, you can easily get something like this (which is more a new PC than an upgrade xD):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjDB27

System Builder

carmine marsh Aug 23, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Hello It's my 1st post here, my MB is GA-970A-UD3 (rev. 1.2). Right now I have 2 x 4 GB of RAM, the sticks are in the the two blue slots. I want to maybe add some RAM. I know that I have to use the same brand and the sames specs. If I buy a set of 2 x 2 GB to upgrade to 12 GB. I put them in the white slots, yes? It will work fine? Will I get the dual channel from both pairs? I could buy exactly the same 2 x 4 GB but more expensive and it's a bit overkill in my opinion.

deep vigil Aug 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Less chance of incompatiblty if you get same ram

carmine marsh Aug 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I should go for the same 2 x 4 GB combo?

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Right now I have this : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

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I was looking at this to upgrade : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

topaz reef Aug 23, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@carmine marsh yeah thats fine

charred venture Aug 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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uhh

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I'd try to get the 2x4gb kit

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because 16gb

carmine marsh Aug 23, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@topaz reef 2 x 4 GB + 2 x 2 GB That combination is ok?

topaz reef Aug 23, 2020, 10:28 PM

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its fine

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ideally you want all dimms the same size and speed but the difference for home users is close to 0

carmine marsh Aug 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Thank you!

topaz reef Aug 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

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🙂

carmine marsh Aug 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

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👍

midnight pollen Aug 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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checkPins

topaz reef Aug 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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@hoary ember from the long model number

naive pendant Aug 23, 2020, 11:59 PM

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lol

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nope

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It's usually more expensive for equal performance.
Sometimes higher-end equipment comes with it

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I find it nice, too. Not necessary. And no rainbow barf.

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Sorry, I've run into too many people who think it make it better.

warm bronze Aug 24, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Does b550 have pcie gen 4 support on the gpu?

fading lynx Aug 24, 2020, 4:07 AM

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ye

hollow thorn Aug 24, 2020, 11:47 AM

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@warm bronze B550 had gen 4 for PCIe_1 and M.2_1 usually from CPU

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No chipset gen 4 lanes tho
(Like m.2_2)

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 PM

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well

primal wren Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 PM

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oops

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 PM

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wifi, or no wifi

primal wren Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 PM

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im not exactly sure what the wifi thing does

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 2:13 PM

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one board has a built in wifi antenna, the other does not

primal wren Aug 24, 2020, 2:13 PM

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ah

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I'd say not to get the built in wifi, for privacy reasons

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That's up to you tho

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naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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ddr4 vs ddr3

split copper Aug 24, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 2:57 PM

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power consumption, right?

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main difference

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greetings! just found out about this discord via chat help on newegg. There is a board I want to buy, and some memory I want to buy. Can any of you give me a sanity check on compatibility? Not asking for advice, just making sure I won't fry anything or start a fire. Two items are: N82E16820232091 and N82E16813144300. Thanks in advance!

primal wren Aug 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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post links

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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one sec, will do.

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144300

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091

split copper Aug 24, 2020, 3:14 PM

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There should be no compatibility issue.

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Thank you. This is a wonderful moment in my life.

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hey, while you are at it, and this is more in the advice category... do you think a 550W power supply will be okay with this combo (and a GTX 1050 card and otherwise fairly typical build)? I'm trying to not increase my electric bill dramatically but still not totally underpower my build.

split copper Aug 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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You should be fine using a pretty wide range of CPUs and GPUs on just 550, I think the techies' rule of thumb is i9-9900K and 2080Ti can run on 550.

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As for electricity bill, the PSU wattage itself won't up your bill, that's the job of the power sipping components 😉

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So whether you have a 550 watt PSU or an 1100 watt one, so long as the computer it's powering is the same, it should draw about the same amount of power (with some minor differences in relation to efficiency/whatever)

quaint current Aug 24, 2020, 4:18 PM

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it was a 3950x but yeah thats to show how you dont need 850w for a midrange build or something

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and yes what he said about the 550 vs 1100 watt power draw is correct, the only things that would change the electricity bill would be the efficiency of the psu (80+ bronze/silver/gold/platinum/titanium, shouldnt make a huge difference unless its 80+ vs something like 80+ platinum) and the actual power consumed by the parts (a 300w 10900k vs 65w ryzen 3600)

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:49 PM

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What's the estimated power draw of the 9900k at 5.0Ghz?

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:50 PM

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depends on what you mean by 5.0GHz

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:51 PM

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true, I don't expect to reach that all core.

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And I can't keep it up there, right?

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:51 PM

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a 5GHz 2 core boost is stock 9900k

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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draws how much?

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Will a larger Noctua air cooler handle it?

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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from what i can find, about 200w

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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damn

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powor honger

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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thats under a full, somewhat unrealistic load tho

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:53 PM

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hongeryes
yeah still
Do I need an AIO at those temps?

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:53 PM

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what temps

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thats power draw

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has nothing to do with thermals

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but, a good noctua or be quiet cooler is really all you need for a stock 9900k

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:54 PM

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The temps that that processor reaches at peak draw

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:54 PM

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then you can overclock with the capabilities of your cooler defining the thermal limits of your chip

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I know these chips are hot bois

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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you probs wont get an amazing oc, but you probably werent planning on doing anything crazy in the first place

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Didn't 10th gen I9 go even higher?

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yep, true

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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eh, they do be spicy, but its not something an air cooler cant handle

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Yeah, I know air vs water is pointess for regular use

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yeah, 10900k draws a crazy amount of power, but is more efficient in terms of removing heat from the die

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so, it produces more heat, but the die stays cooler

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I'm wondering about delidding my CPU

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:57 PM

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theyre both soldered to the ihs

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so, the thermal transfer is good enough

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not worth risking the cpu

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Okay.

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Thanks for the tips

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 4:57 PM

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np

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Have any of you actually spent 750+ on a mobo

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also, WHY

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 7:09 PM

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after 300 dollars, mobos start to try and do everything to justify the absurd cost

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so, there is very little reason to spend more than that, unless you are extreme overclocking on like LN2

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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lol

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That's what I said.

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"But it has a monoblock!"

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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its also for rich people to say they have a more expensive pc

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM

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ye

main pulsar Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM

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when the difference between 7k and 8k is due to the motherboard alone, it makes your pc sound more powerful, even though its not lmao

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM

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if tht 10900k build has something like that, bye-bye.

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lol

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just buy another display or gpu

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Corsair

charred venture Aug 24, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ddr4 5000

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ez

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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lol

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Corsair standard vengance

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Unless you want RGB

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what is b-die?

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Yeah me, my PC needs the RGB RAM

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but lemme google it

quaint current Aug 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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b die is güd ram

charred venture Aug 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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so its the type of chip

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that overclocks well

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look for 3200 cl14

quaint current Aug 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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get dark pros ez

charred venture Aug 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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or 3600cl16

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Okay, one more compatibility check that you guys can help me with....

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This is the SSD blade i want to use for my primary OS drive:

https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199

This is the board I want to use:

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144300

Not sure if this SSD will be a form-factor that this board can use... any clues?

gritty meadow Aug 24, 2020, 10:05 PM

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that formfactor m.2 works on that board @naive pendant

polar grail Aug 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Asrock rgb is terrible. Function and look both. I just feel like mentioning that.

naive pendant Aug 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@gritty meadow thanks! This kind of form-factor issue is always a very confusing one. I've bought adapters for every kind of SSD stick there is, and often, even the manufacturers can't answer simple questions about what form factor something really is or isn't. And within form factor, the "key" type isn't always what a manufacturer claims it is, and you don't usually find out until you've sunk some money into a purchase. Anyway, despite my paranoia, thanks for the sanity check!

gritty meadow Aug 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@naive pendant i would recommend NOT buying ssd's from back alleys then. Because just about all the normal manufacturers spec pages actually show exactly what key they are. and what formfactor they are.

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the place you might be getting into trouble is IF you trust what it says on a sellers website.

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Dont ever trust that the seller has the right info. ALWAYS check the manufacturers page for the actual specs.

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imo, 2*16

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32 gig total is not that much

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so, with 2*16 you dont end up with spare sticks later.

wise ocean Aug 25, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Is this the right place to ask for CPU support? I have a new iBuyPower Trace-2 pro from NewEgg. The CPU is benchmarking at the 2nd percentile. It's two months old.

I have a link but it seems like that's disallowed here.

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I don't know what level 3 is. presumably that means I'm not level 3.

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to prevent spam.

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I don't know what to do. This is going to be annoying because I don't know if you guys can even help me.

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Do you know where I should go if there really is a problem with this CPU? Like I mentioned the whole computer is brand new from NewEgg. It seems like I might be in trouble if there's a problem.

I'll try a few things and check later.

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Hey@wise ocean all you got to do is talk in chats for a it

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For a bit*

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 11:50 AM

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'The CPU itself is bent'

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kekw

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how

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kekw

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IDK, something happened in transit. All of us immediately screamed RMA that mofo

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Speaking of CPU mounting mechanisms, why don's we have two contact pad mechanisms?

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Like, LGA CPUs have pads on the bottom, to reduce chances of damage.

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PGA is the opposite.

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Couldn't we have a dual pa dcontact system, with some nonconductive pins at the corners as a retention mechanism?

neat estuary Aug 25, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@wise ocean it’s called the silicon lottery. They only promise base clock with sketchy wording after that saying “up to whatever clock”

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Of course. You need latest bios, chipset, Ryzen power plan etc before you complain too loud

haughty delta Aug 25, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Which is better with performance, looks, for my money: MSI's MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE, or Asus' ROG Crosshair VIII Formula?

gritty meadow Aug 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@wise ocean in case you have not talked with them yet, have a chat with @glad socket , they are the ones that can actually deal with things for you.

hollow thorn Aug 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Why exactly are you looking at motherboards that expensive?

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Flagship motherboards usually have all the fancy gimmicks, but if you need some gimmick, there's cheaper boards with them.

haughty delta Aug 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Well eventually, I'll probably be getting a better board, and I'm looking for boards that have an on-board power, and reset button, a clear CMOS button, and that stuff (stuff my current mobo doesn't have, which would more-than-likely come in handy someday, if I ever needed it)

(Btw, this is just me looking at stuff for future upgrades, and me getting a good idea as to what options are available for me later on, when I need to upgrade anything)

neat estuary Aug 25, 2020, 3:52 PM

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You can find all that in the 300$ price range. Asrock gives that stuff in some of the lower ranges but the trade off is usually weaker VRM etc

worn jackal Aug 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Was planning a Ryzen 4600 or 4700 build, but getting impatient and considering going with an Intel 10600k/10700k(Main reason considering i7 is because current price difference is not much.) Primarily will be Gaming. Should I push for Intel or continue to wait for Ryzen 4000?

gritty meadow Aug 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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only one that can answer that question is yourself @worn jackal

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you are the one that knows how much you want/need a new system right now

worn jackal Aug 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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True, but saying is there going to be any benefit to waiting since CPU will likely not be the bottleneck.

gritty meadow Aug 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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we dont know the performance of next gen cpu. so that is not a question we can answer.

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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hopefully better than comet lake flop

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Corsair Vengeance had a RGB non-pro variant? It looks sick, why can't I find it?

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MFW it doesn't seem to exist, it has a page on Corsair and PC partpicker but that's it.

tacit hemlock Aug 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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What does mfw mean lol

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 PM

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my face when

slate crest Aug 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

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The m.2 bracing screws that came with my MSI GODLIKE are too short!?

mild jackal Aug 25, 2020, 7:35 PM

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The screws? or the standoff?

slate crest Aug 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Wait i think you're right its a standoff that screws into the m.2 bed, and then has a screw screw into it

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it's like the dao, screwing and being screwed at the same time

mild jackal Aug 25, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Just don't do this

📎 l5h7wjytm7m31.png

slate crest Aug 25, 2020, 7:38 PM

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sorry, minor freak out

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oh no

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haha

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I think my mobo was meant to be sold in China, or another asian country. It shipped from China, and the box has more Chinese(?) than english on it. I thought we didn't let them have Ryzens though? Why is there so much asian pictograms on my mobo box?

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Can I use the MSI mobo m.2 heatsink instead of the Corsair factory m.2 heatsink?

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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kekw

mild jackal Aug 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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'bent cpu'

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'My CPU was bent when received and it doesn't work.'

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I was told for an amd build you should have fast ram, is Crucial 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL16 Ballistix RGB good? It's the only 3600mhz I could find in stock where I live that was 2x8

hollow thorn Aug 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Yes

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it's pretty neat

naive pendant Aug 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Nice

chrome jolt Aug 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

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When do you guys think the i9-10900k will go back in stock for $530?

nova prawn Aug 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Sup guys, so im new to pc building and i just started buying some stuff to put together a pc, im still not really understanding how RAM works, i got the Asus z390 prime mb(which says the max ram is 64gb)

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And so i got the 64 gb on 4 cards

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Is that necessary?

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I want to do streaming and gaming

gritty meadow Aug 25, 2020, 11:35 PM

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no, 64gb is not needed

nova prawn Aug 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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So is it worthless to have gotten the 4 cards?

topaz shuttle Aug 25, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Dose the 3 3100 cooler come with thermal paste

inland wing Aug 25, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Yea the odds of you utilizing all 64 gb of ur memory are so slim, I seldom hear anyone needing that much, but if people ever do, they need like 128 for heavy duty tasks

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And yea all stock coolers come w preapplied thermal paste I think

topaz shuttle Aug 26, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Ok

nova prawn Aug 26, 2020, 12:09 AM

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But can i still just intall the for the looks without it damaging anything?

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I got the corsair vengeance RGB

main pulsar Aug 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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yeah you can install all the ram, but you could also return some of it to get some money back

nova prawn Aug 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Lol thats true

naive pendant Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I barely use 16 gb of ram

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But then again I’m not doing tasks other than gaming right now

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32 would be nice

nova prawn Aug 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Ok cool thank you guys for the help

naive pendant Aug 26, 2020, 3:33 AM

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So, just put in a new motherboard, CPU so I can have a new PC, never been used

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Works fine, fans are on, cpu is on

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LEDs come off of the motherboard itself but I cant turn it off

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I turn off my PC because I cant exactly use it

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So when I power it off the LED on the motherboard remains on, no idea why or how to stop it

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I'm thinking I didn't plug something in correctly or this is just the way it is

slate crest Aug 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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My Arctic Silver 5 came in an unsealed zip-lock baggie, is that okay?

naive pendant Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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My b450 Steel Legend stopped working. Just noticed it lost a mosfat. :/

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 11:21 AM

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If it completely lost a mosfat somehow, I don't think you can easily just solder one right back on, might want to contact Asrock for an RMA or something if possible @naive pendant

naive pendant Aug 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Yeah thanks, I do not have the tools to do that anyway, I sent them an email as the newegg site has it listed as beyond return period.

naive pendant Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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god

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GWvertiPeepoSadMan

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It's a good thing I had this ASUS board as a spare.

static dragon Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

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.

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Hey guys, new here. Built my first PC about 4 years ago and am considering some upgrades. Want to make sure things will work together and are worth it. I currently run an Intel i5 6600k. I'm reading that an i7 may not be worth the minimal difference, for example an i7 7700, and that I should go straight to an i9 which would probably require a new MoBo. Also looking at moving up to 32 GB RAM from 16GB. Should I start with just the RAM upgrade and see how that improves things? Any input is appreciated.

tacit hemlock Aug 26, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Your best bet would probably be an upgrade to a ryzen based system atm. New cpu, mobo, and ram

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How much do you want to spend and what are you using the pc for?

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Get a pcpartpicker.com/list/ if you can

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:42 PM

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No real budget but I don't think I need an astronomic change. I use it for mid-range gaming and frequently watch sports or stream music on the other monitor while doing so. I'm not a streamer or anything so I don't need the best of the best, just noticing some slight hang-ups. I use it for work as well so tons of Chrome tabs usually while watching a Stream or playing music/videos at the same time.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:43 PM

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tbh right now it's a lot more likely we'll suggest you swap right about everything out for a new build xD

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I'll explain :

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Ha, I noticed with the Ryzen suggestion. I'm not super familiar with them.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Ryzen CPUs are extremely dominant in terms of price to perf right now, so a 3600 is a great option. To have a 3600, you need an AM4 motherboard, and Ryzen CPUs like higher speeds ram than Intel does, so that's CPU, Mobo, and Ram suggestions. Then, for gaming Nvidia 30xx GPUs are coming soon, and the better the GPU, the better the gaming perf as a rule of thumb. To support the new GPU, it's possible you'll need a better PSU.

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I will look into it and weigh my options, thank you. In the meantime, if I just wanted to swap out one or two things for a quick, cheaper fix on my current build, would more RAM or a better CPU as mentioned above make a bigger impact?

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(Planning for short term and long term here)

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Well, thing with Intel is that every 2 generations or so you'll be forced to swap motherboards, so if you want a modern CPU, a motherboard change is inevitable

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So no reason imo to just swap out the CPU for a temp fix that you're not going to be able to re-use or anything

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I personally believe it's worth investing in some 2x16gb 3600mhzc16 ram if you are looking into getting AMD, and that should last you until ddr5

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Right, and the i9's don't work in the Lg1151 socket, I believe.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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the New i9s don't

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Rule of thumb : Intel is dumb

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i9 10900k goes in a completely different socket

tacit hemlock Aug 26, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Also an i9 doesn't exactly match the "I dont need the best of the best" request lol

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:50 PM

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i9 9900k needs a different chipset than the ones compatible with your 6600k

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8900k too

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7900k if it exists (I don't know the Intel product stack well) might work

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@jade bobcat Here is an example completely new build I could make in a few weeks. Just a taste of all the prices and the parts I might put in.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24QLtp

System Builder

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@tacit hemlock I was using the i9 as an example of "is an i7 even going to make a difference or do I need to go to an i9 to be worth the time/money".

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Thank you, I will look at that build.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:55 PM

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By the way, Intel labeling is also pretty dumb imo, an i9 can be a 10 year old chip that isn't worth much, or a current gen powerhouse of a chip

wind field Aug 26, 2020, 7:56 PM

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What is better a Intel Pentium 4425y or a Intel core m3

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?

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:56 PM

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which core m3

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Understood. Perhaps I'll start looking into a Ryzen build and start future-proofing everything.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:57 PM

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m3-8100Y, m3-7Y32, m3-7Y30, m3-6Y30 are the ones I can see @wind field

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@jade bobcat It's always good to wait around and see what this generation of parts will bring

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We're not sure on when AMD will launch 4000 series of chips, but it's some time later this year

wind field Aug 26, 2020, 7:58 PM

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8100y

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 7:58 PM

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8100y is better
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Pentium-4425Y-vs-Intel-m3-8100Y-vs-Intel-m3-7Y32-vs-Intel-m3-7Y30-vs-Intel-m3-6Y30/3799vs3367vs3052vs2864vs2631

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passmark is pretty neat

wind field Aug 26, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Ok thanks just try to figure what one to go with in my surface go 2 I want to get

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I keep thinking I over paid for Ram every time I see 3600 cl 16 listed but I have two kits of 3600 cl16-16-16-32. Haven’t seen anything gskill offer match the secondary timings yet.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I mean, you overpaid for practical speeds, you paid the right amount for ram perf speeds.

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Those 2x8gb kits cost around 110$ a piece when I bought them. Got two kits to work together too. Very pleased.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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It's like how I wouldn't recommend b die for the casual gamer

quaint current Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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dark prossssssss

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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DARK PROOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

quaint current Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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b dieeeeeeeeeeeee

charred venture Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yessir

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Oh

charred venture Aug 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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best overclocking ram :L

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Eh I’m a bit of a wanna be overclocker. Just wait till I work up the courage to see what is in bios

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 8:07 PM

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@hollow thorn For that build you'd go with 16 x2 over 8x4? Was that just because of the suggested mobo slots? I was under the impression that spreading out RAM through more sticks is better

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Negative

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2 is better

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Unless T topology

quaint current Aug 26, 2020, 8:08 PM

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16x2 gives a much better upgrade path too

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Is that in general or just for Ryzen? I'm looking to upgrade RAM soon and currently run 4x4 and was looking at 8x4.

quaint current Aug 26, 2020, 8:10 PM

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in general

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Sorry if these are dumb questions.

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:10 PM

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It’s much easier for your motherboard to hold XMP at 2 sticks instead of 4

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XMP is the memory overclock calculated into the ram.

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Understood. Seems like I found the right Discord server.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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2x16 is just a better idea in general, dual channel, upgradability, easier to run higher speeds.

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Hardly. We just wreck stuff 👀

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Ofc unless you're on a dual socket server board that has quad channel

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Then buy 2tb of ram for fun and because it supports it

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:D

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@neat estuary yes, this server has a guy who doesn't read manuals help people, because I mean manuals are dumb right

neat estuary Aug 26, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Hey. School of hard knocks is more productive anyway!!

tacit hemlock Aug 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Sry I didnt see the ping but I think mr1111 accurately answered your question @jade bobcat

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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That's okay, yes he did.

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 8:19 PM

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hehe no

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rule 9

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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G.Skill Ripjaw over Corsair Vengeance?

main pulsar Aug 26, 2020, 9:00 PM

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whatevers cheapest

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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So if my current is 288-pin DDR4 I can use any 288-pin DDR4 correct? You guys are probably laughing at me lol

quaint current Aug 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yes

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as long as the motherboard supports ddr4 any ddr4 kit will work

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Thank you

main pulsar Aug 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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if you need suggestions on which memory kit to get people here can help

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I think I'm just looking for 2x16 DDR4 288-pin and 3600. I'm open to recommendations. Not necessary at all but LED's are cool if it's not going to run up pricing. lol

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Cool, thank you. That's one of the ones I was just looking at. Think it's worth waiting for Black Friday for deals on stuff? Or do PC parts not typically get discounted?

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Awesome, I'll probably snag it then. I appreciate the suggestion!

main pulsar Aug 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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why are you looking at 32gb?

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any specific reasons?

deep vigil Aug 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@hoary ember dram prices dropping soon

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Acording to gn dram and ssd prices dropping last quarter of the year

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I only have 16gb right now and I do notice some hang-ups. I use a ton of Chrome tabs while working, streaming music, sometimes playing games or watching a stream while working and it does take a second every once in a while. Thought a CPU might improve things but from what I'm reading it's not really worth the upgrade unless it's a BIG upgrade.

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I'm running 4x4 right now.

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I use Firefox, and while it is slow to start up with like 500,1000 tabs cached in the session, it doesn't actually load them into memory which is nice

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Perfectly good load time with normal amount of tabs in a session

jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Hmm, that's good to know.

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 9:22 PM

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What happens is, when you reopen an old session, the tab last focused on will be loaded into memory and once again focused on, and when you load another tab, loads into memory, etc.

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I'm sure chrome might do that to some extent, but I'm pretty sure last time I used it they were all running and loaded

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Firefox market share shrinking tho

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And they losing monie

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Hope I can keep using it 😔

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 9:26 PM

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@jade bobcat oh and also, if you have problems with using too much ram, try using a utility called rammap, it's really neat for clearing the memory of not-in-use stuff. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap

RAMMap - Windows Sysinternals

An advanced physical memory usage analysis utility that presents usage information in different ways on its several different tabs.

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empty the sets

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jade bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Beautiful, thanks again!

hollow thorn Aug 26, 2020, 9:29 PM

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You're welcome

turbid gulch Aug 26, 2020, 11:24 PM

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For a gaming and streaming pc, would you guys go for a Intel 10900K or a Ryzen 9 3950X?

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:25 PM

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E-450 😤

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Probably Ryzen 9

deep vigil Aug 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@turbid gulch What gou

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Gpu

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Next gen gpu like 3090 go amd

turbid gulch Aug 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I was going to use the 3090 yeah

gritty meadow Aug 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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wait until we see reviews

deep vigil Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 PM

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We need to see if it utilizes pcie gen 4

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:31 PM

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3090 but it's PCIe gen 2

main pulsar Aug 26, 2020, 11:31 PM

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flush

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would be poggers

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oh oh why not pcie gen 1 x128

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Yas

deep vigil Aug 26, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Why not just pci

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Serial port

deep vigil Aug 26, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Audio jack

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 PM

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RCA port

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Shout the rendering instructions to your deaf neighbor and have him draw the frame on a canvas outside your window

warm finch Aug 26, 2020, 11:46 PM

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can I ask questions here about laptop ram?

split copper Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Yup

near flame Aug 27, 2020, 12:59 AM

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pcpartpicker.com/list/XqyyJb what would be a good motherboard to go with this build ive got around $200 to spend on one

deep vigil Aug 27, 2020, 1:58 AM

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b550

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ds3h

heady root Aug 27, 2020, 2:00 AM

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b550 phantom gaming is usually $115

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 2:01 AM

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oos recently

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anyways anything from a B550 ds3h to a X570-p works

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and if you need wifi, something like a x570-plus (wifi)

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 2:06 AM

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I've been looking at this, whenever it shows up on wegg www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-AORUS-PRO-P-rev-10

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vs. www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550I-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10

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or do I wait for the X670. choices choices choices

deft phoenix Aug 27, 2020, 6:12 AM

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if i just got a ryzen 9 3950x what programs do i get and is ryzen master one of them?

deep vigil Aug 27, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@naive pendant cpu and gpu?

wild wadi Aug 27, 2020, 10:40 AM

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guys which is better amd a6-7480 or ryzen 3 3200g?

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 11:06 AM

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@wild wadi 3200g is quite a bit better, but still not a great chip

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if you're going dGPU you should go like 3100

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@deft phoenix Ryzen master is a nice utility if you want to OC, there's nothing that you really need to download for your CPU.

wild wadi Aug 27, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@hollow thorn so i'll get ryzen 3 3100?

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and whats dGPU?

fossil bridge Aug 27, 2020, 11:15 AM

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dedicated gpu

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 11:23 AM

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has better performance due to the 8 threads on 3100 as opposed to the 4 threads on 3200G

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 1:23 PM

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also due to the newer architecture than the 3200g

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 1:30 PM

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(3100 is on Zen 2, 3200g is Zen+, APUs are 1 gen behind)

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 2:58 PM

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^

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also are the 4000 series APUs like already out or what?

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they are supposed to an even in amd store but I can't find them anywhere

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Only leaks

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Aparently System integraters in Australia or something leaked them months ago

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 2:59 PM

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oh so they are officially leaked but not out yet

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I see the U versions of the APUs are already in some laptops

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Yea 4000 laptop chips already out

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@naive pendant https://www.anandtech.com/show/15921/amd-launches-12-desktop-renoir-ryzen-4000g-series-apus-but-you-cant-buy-them

AMD Launches 12 Desktop Renoir Ryzen 4000G Series APUs: But You Can...

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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GWsetmyxPeepoSad

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I even saw them in their official page

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they look pretty promising GWseremePeepoHappy

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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look at the "So they are OEM only?" section.

devout mothBOT Aug 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Frous#4068 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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brug

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@gritty meadow I also saw something about have placeholder pages on retailers a while ago

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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the athlon 4000G series are quad core already GWseremePeepoHappy

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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(as in retailers somewhere put up a page for them)

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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aye @hollow thorn

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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basically budget gaming will be even more accessible in the newer generations

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I hope

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Eh, in the end, it's iffy, it's not out yet.

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:09 PM

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btw what does the c16 c18 and such in the ram mean?

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@hollow thorn until there is stock, consider retailer/seller pages like that as "click bait"

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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probably slothee

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but only in 1080p I think

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Fair enough

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I ask again

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what does the c16, c18, c14 and such mean in the RAM?

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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@naive pendant see the pins. in particular the one from Nachos

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:38 PM

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ohhh

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ok I see

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:38 PM

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:)

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 3:38 PM

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is there actual c7 ram already?

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jeez

gritty meadow Aug 27, 2020, 3:39 PM

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keep in mind thou, a LOT of the differences dont really matter much

midnight peak Aug 27, 2020, 4:29 PM

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anyone know if the ROG b550-a is a good motherboard

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i was looking at it and it looks pretty good

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Well if you read all the specs there's not much I can tell you

quaint current Aug 27, 2020, 4:37 PM

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that just shows all the speeds and timings

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i wish there was 5600cl7 ram tho haha

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 4:45 PM

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maybe with the release of DDR5 which is likely to be soon

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reaching up to 8400 Mhz as far as I saw which is pog

hollow thorn Aug 27, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I mean look at ddr3

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It usually gets higher freq and higher cl as we go

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Ddr3 had like 1200c7 ram

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Now we do like 3200c16

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Wouldn't be surprised if it was 8400c30

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 4:47 PM

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hmm

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@deep vigil looking at getting a 3700x, and currently running a 1660 Super until the new cards come out.

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I wish the B550m boards had wifi. I have a good adapter but would prefer to not need it.

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:22 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331

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tada

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Might go with the Mortar Wifi version

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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that one look cool

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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b550 boards do have wifi

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on some boards

fading lynx Aug 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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but... ethernet

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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literally, the only difference between b550 and x570 is IO and nothing more

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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yea

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and the extra pcie 4.0

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but u really dont need a extra one

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:27 PM

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theyve got a different number of usbs and pcie at different speeds

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Yes, but the two I was looking at don't have it.

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1 is good

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half the times the io is the same

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x570 is really not worth it

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unless ur having quite a few gpus

main pulsar Aug 27, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yeah, most boards dont even leverage the additional x570 chipset features

naive pendant Aug 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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yea