#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 121

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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ryzen 3s come with a cooler right?

charred venture Aug 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yes

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@tacit hemlock if you've tested all ram slots then yeah

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mine was a problem with ram

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same issue

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

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If I have xpg z1 2x8 ddr4 3200 ram, what is the highest I can overclock it?

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Like nobody knows? Start watching vids and learn how it works or pay someone money. It’s very complicated if you want max performance

hollow thorn Aug 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@naive pendant the highest depends on what you do with it ;) Also depends on the die. I'm guess it wouldn't go too far, try maybe like 3433 cl16

gritty meadow Aug 11, 2020, 9:10 PM

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@tacit hemlock what i know (based on your pictures yesterday): m.2 drive was plugged in correctly. there was power in the board (or you wouldnt have had that picture of the "fancy pansy" light near the gpu to show :)

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but aside from that, i know nothing about the board.

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IF you have not had any success with different tests. You have to decide IF it is simpler/cheaper for you to "just" ask for a rma OR keep trying to figure out what is wrong.

The choice is yours @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I think I might aswell get it replaced. Gonna take more time ofc but at this point I don't really care. I'm not sure what other tests I could even do

long geyser Aug 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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@tacit hemlock have a speaker you can wire up to the board for post errors?

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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No lol

gritty meadow Aug 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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if you have run out of options (aside from RMA) then RMA is what you have to do @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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The biggest issue with the board is none of the io is getting power

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Besides it booting ofc

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So I cant boot into a USB, update bios, or the like

gritty meadow Aug 11, 2020, 9:22 PM

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as i said yesterday: Pulling it apart and then putting it together, one piece at a time (and testing after each one) is really all you can do

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:23 PM

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And i did that today with no luck

gritty meadow Aug 11, 2020, 9:23 PM

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there are limits to what you as a consumer can reasonably do

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(aye, i know you did. Just restating for the lurking choir)

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:23 PM

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;)

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Then if you tell the manufacturer they try to say you might have wrecked something. 🧐
I had a most annoying situation going on with Gigabyte. It’s highly recommended to hit the return window if you have problems

tacit hemlock Aug 11, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I'm gonna try to get it replaced through newegg. I also haven't had pleasant experiences with rmas, especially with asus, which is who makes this board

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I actually went to a Asus board after I found other people started having problems with the Gigabyte boards. I went from the B550 Aurous Pro to the Asus B550-e. In my experience Asus is considerably more stress free then Gigabyte.. But im hoping i just had bad luck. i still think the VRM design on the Aorus Pro was exceptionally good

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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my experience was revered from that

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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So likely bad luck

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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my dad used asus for years, until their cs tanked. the only time we've had to use gigabytes cs they sent us replacement fans, no questions asked

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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cs?

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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customer service

neat estuary Aug 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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oh... I honestly dont know any that are very good.. in the MObo dept

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Hey guys question

warped scroll Aug 11, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Hm?

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Wait for it

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 10:43 PM

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If I game and use Chrome extensively (like 10-15 tabs open) do you think it would be best to have Ryzen 7 3700 or just settle for a Ryzen 5 3600

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I just want to know if more cores = better performance between tasks. I always thought it was a matter of RAM but I’m not sure now

warped scroll Aug 11, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Uh, no need for any of those

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If you’re just doing chrome

long geyser Aug 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Would depend on tabs, extensions, and settings

warped scroll Aug 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Unless you have games open as well

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Well I have The Great Suspender (a chrome extension that suspends a tab when not in use)

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But is the two extra cores seriously worth it?

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I basically will do multitasking extensively. No rendering applications like CAD or anything

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 10:48 PM

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They literally said they game and have tabs open.

naive pendant Aug 11, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Lmao why not

warped scroll Aug 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Oh, I guess 3700X might be a better choice, if you have the extra monies

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yams seemed to have missed the game part

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Lol

warped scroll Aug 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yeah, I did brainlet

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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X would be good

tall storm Aug 11, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok so i have a question

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i have a strix b450-f

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and an 8x4 gigs of 3600mhz ram

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whenever i run 2 of the sticks

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i can get 3600 speed

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but if i have 4 in

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it like quadruple boots

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then downclocks the speed to 2133

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do i need more voltage or something?

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idk why it keeps happening

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like is it just more or what

dry horizon Aug 11, 2020, 11:54 PM

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They're all the same sticks?

tall storm Aug 11, 2020, 11:54 PM

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yep

upbeat lichen Aug 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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the more you load up each memory channel, the longer it takes for each channel to do all of its requests and fetches and all that, so sometimes the memory can't run at the full rated speed as a result

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you usually see it with quad channel on threadripper and things like that

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8 sticks can't run at 3600mhz, so you have to clock everything down to 3200 or 2933, etc

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but it can happen with 4 sticks as well

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you can try messing with the timings at 3600 to see if you can get it to boot

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loosen them up a little

tall storm Aug 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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uh idk would that work?

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like if i slow down my timings

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but then up my speed

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would it be able to run?

upbeat lichen Aug 12, 2020, 12:25 AM

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it will, you might also have to bump the dram voltage and the soc voltage as well

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i would check and see if anyone else has done any of that with your board/ram combo specifically

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and someone might have written something up for it

tall storm Aug 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

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k thx

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Finally figured out how to monitor the right temp on Asus Amd mobo

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naive pendant Aug 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Can't you do that in bios too?

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Ok on my board I can

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*ik

naive pendant Aug 12, 2020, 5:25 AM

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@tall storm I actually wanted to get that Mobo for Ryzen 3rd gen

naive pendant Aug 12, 2020, 9:59 AM

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What do you look for in a good mobo

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 11:56 AM

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VRM thermals and the features you need

trail sun Aug 12, 2020, 2:05 PM

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I was wondering is someone would be able to help me here. I just bought some Trident Z RGB. Just noticed it is optimized for intel chipset. I have an AMD chipset. From what I read it should still work fine. I was wondering if anyone know for certain? I looked at the capability list for boards it supports and mine is one there. However when I go to AMD website it does not show that model on there which is confusing.

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Yes, it'll work. The "optimizing" stuff is just marketing

trail sun Aug 12, 2020, 2:12 PM

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awesome thank you so much

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Np

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Whats the best way to clean thermal paste off the side of a cpu. I have big hands so its kinda hard to get a microfiber in there.

warped scroll Aug 12, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Paper towel

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And then rubbing alcohol if needed

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Well ya, but its kind hard to get in that little corner

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warped scroll Aug 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I guess you could try to use a screwdriver

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Gently scrape it out

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Maybe I could put a microfiber or paper towel over the tip of the screw driver

warped scroll Aug 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Good idea

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Just gotta be patient ig

warped scroll Aug 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Remember to be very gentle tho

tacit hemlock Aug 12, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Ya Ofc

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Look at this beautiful spread tho

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warped scroll Aug 12, 2020, 3:04 PM

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🥵

robust valley Aug 12, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Hi, I am looking for an AMD EPYC 7252 on Newegg, there are two models, 100-000000080 and 100-100000080WOF, what is the difference?
I am going to get one for my asrock rack ROMED8-2T motherboard.

quaint current Aug 12, 2020, 4:11 PM

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honestly the only difference i can see is the 100-000000080 chip has a newer release date

robust valley Aug 12, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Yes it's the only difference i can see. I see the same in the 7302P. The only difference is w/wo the word WOF, and the title name, the one with WOF has the name "Server Processor ". it's so strange.

forest nimbus Aug 12, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Regarding upgrading memory; when a motherboards specs list all the ram speeds it can use, what does the + mean next to the highest one? For example: Memory Standard
DDR4 3600+(O.C.)/ 3466(O.C.)/ etc etc

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I figure it means it supports faster, but I have no idea how to find out the max ram speed a mobo can support.

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@forest nimbus AMD doesn't really have a Max ram speed limit, it's just an estimate of how far you'll be able to fit on em. And on AMD side, it also depends on the CPU itself, a 2nd gen ryzen chip can only really guarantee support up to 3200mhz, even on say a x570 motherboard. But a 3rd gen Ryzen chip can do 3600mhz easily, even on b450 boards that only list up to say 3200mhz

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Intel wise, their non-Z motherboards have a hard limit on ram speed

forest nimbus Aug 12, 2020, 5:04 PM

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You're amazing, that's really helpful!

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 5:08 PM

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You're welcome

naive pendant Aug 12, 2020, 5:16 PM

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so im getting a pre production core i9 extreme from a family member im going to assume it is an LGA 2066 socket?

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 5:17 PM

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??

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I mean if it's like a 11980xe it's gonna be on some different socket

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10980xe is on lga 2066

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:00 PM

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ryzen 7 3700x or intel i5 10600k? i want an all around pc but more so on the gaming

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Depends on budget

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Much easier to fit a b550 board in a budget than a z490 board

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:04 PM

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It would be around 100 difference

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:05 PM

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What is your budget for the entire pc?

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:05 PM

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around 1300

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do you want me to send both lists?

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Ya no

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Lmao 1300 dont get a 10600k or 3700x

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:07 PM

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why?

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Yea get a 3600

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GPU should take more of the budget

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GPU is the biggest contributing factor to your fps

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I wanna do gaming some editing some graphic design and maybe animation

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXttDx

System Builder

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I disapprove of that case :p

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I like it

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So bac off

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Get a b550 ds3h or something please

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B450-f overpriced

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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the case is fine

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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GPU is oos

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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it has open vents on the sides

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Any 2070s works

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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PSU you can do better

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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You can

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But its 20 more

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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2070s pricing going up just put one that's in stock

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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nah, that psu overpriced kinda

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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550w txm isn't great y'know

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Esp for 100$

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Isnt it a rmx

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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So for what i want to do with the pc i should get a 2080 and a 3600?

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Oh sht didnt change it

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Txm is much worse than rmx

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Lol

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Lmao wrong list on my phone

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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2080 isn't gonna fit in the budget afaik

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I am a firm believer in TD500 mesh

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I don't like the look of 220t

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:11 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3gvqGc

System Builder

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so like this pog

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Psu?

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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better for cheaper

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Maybe swap mobo

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Could get RMx

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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mobo fine tho

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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You can have b550 ds3h for 5$ more

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yea ig

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I like dat future proof

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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B450 should work with zen 3

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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its like 20 more

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Pcie 4.0

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Idc about CPU compatibility

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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do need wifi

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?

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@rustic flame you need wifi?

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:14 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331

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this board got wifi, but not newegg seller

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eh, ships from china, nvm

rustic flame Aug 12, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I may get an ethernet

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:15 PM

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o also case is atx

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so atx board look cooler

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@main pulsar the 220t is a small case

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Smaller than most mid towers

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:17 PM

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but still atx case

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so a non atx board looks stupid in that case

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Rip

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I hate 220t now

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160mm CPU cooler clearance

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Just like p400a

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Why

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Small case

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:19 PM

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i like the way 220t looks

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comes with 3 rgb corsair fans too

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 6:20 PM

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If it can't fit a d15 or drp4 it's a bad case

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 6:21 PM

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for a 3600? doesnt need to

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buying cooler for 3600 is dumm

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theres no reason 2 unless overclock

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but PBO is better

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Wtd

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Wrf

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I think buying a cooler for any ryzen cpu is dumb

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Unless for looks

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Unless to oc

wind field Aug 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I am getting a nzxt z63 cooler for my ryzen

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But the cup in getting is a ryzen 9 3900x and might oc a little

long geyser Aug 12, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I'd rather get a good SPU/dual NVMe then a meh SPU/single NVMe on a 1.15k system

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also Crucial has made a nice small little comeback with ever so slightly better XMP timings (not CL) then the Ripjaws
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 7:04 PM

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owo 2 bux cheaper

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/by4NnQ/corsair-memory-cmd8gx3m2a3200c13
yikes

Corsair Dominator Platinum 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-3200 CL9 Memory

long geyser Aug 12, 2020, 7:05 PM

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only DDR3 and probs cost 20k

main pulsar Aug 12, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i know it ddr3

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but still thats insane

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Why is the date of my CPU driver showing 4/21/2009 Even when i download latest chipset driver and install it... Whats going on?

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hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:21 PM

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The CPU has drivers?

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Its called chipset driver usually

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ye

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I wonder if windows is being dumb

midnight pollen Aug 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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yes update the cpu drivers ehehe KermitVader

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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the CPU itself doesn't have drivers afaik

quaint current Aug 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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did u install the ram drivers?

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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no idea what a ram driver is

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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is a joke

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I figured.. So u guys have no helpfull comments?

coarse sonnet Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Hey everytime i boot there is a screen that says checking disks

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what does that mean?

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I'm just saying windows is dumb and I don't think the CPU has drivers

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so the date is messed up

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Im sure its reffering to the chipset

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:24 PM

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for example, I know for sure I have all drivers downloaded from at least as late as 2019, and it still says 2009 here

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midnight pollen Aug 12, 2020, 7:24 PM

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only other thing i think of is sometimes dates get messed up when a battery is dying or ded

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:25 PM

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look

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neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I c.. thanks for checking that.. thats what i needed to know

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:25 PM

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windows can't find any newer drivers anyways

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Im just troubleshooting a bit after running Cinibench 20. My stock should be 4900 but im barely getting 4600

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 7:27 PM

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stuff varies

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check background processes

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Thats actually what im wondering too. On first setup I scored 4850.. I suppose it could be the additional programs i downloaded since

quaint current Aug 12, 2020, 7:29 PM

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yea and i would check hwinfo to see that everything is running fine

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Evervy thing is fine. I got it under a AIO and its never topping 65c

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Its only boosting to 3.9 under render tho. My last board held a 4.1 easy

deep vigil Aug 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Chipset drivers?

upbeat lichen Aug 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Probably a board issue. R20 typically won't boost as high because it's a bigger power draw compared to R15 or even prime95 small ftts

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Bios up to date?

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example of a few different boards hitting different all core boost freq's under different apps - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ccc7nt/what_is_the_normal_stock_allcore_boost_frequency/

r/Amd - What is the normal, stock all-core boost frequency for the ...

6 votes and 22 comments so far on Reddit

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Bios is Latest, Chipset is latest. I enabled PBO in Bios and put scaler up to x7, Enabled preffered core and cppc. im boosting to 4.1 all core now with a score of 4900 in Cinibench 20.. I read this is suppose to be stock results somewhere

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So ... just food for thought

upbeat lichen Aug 12, 2020, 7:58 PM

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'stock results' should always be taken with a grain of salt because things like thermal solution, mainboard bios, background apps, can all have an impact

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even quality of silicon on the chip itself factors in

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margin of difference should still be pretty small all things considered, but there is no single golden standard that every configuration will achieve out of the box

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I see. Its not the end of the world. Im just slowing getting interested in the OC stuff so verifying that my cpu is running correctly is kinda my first step

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Btw.. im on the ROG Strix B550-e.. If my board where even considered to be the problem i would have to send Asus a box of poop

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Stock results also varies depending on the chip itself automatically boosting to random frequencies

neat estuary Aug 12, 2020, 9:48 PM

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What a weird situation. After running loads of tests. Optimized defaults with PB on is all you can literally get... hell it wont even boost to 4.4 if i change anything else.. Even turning on Preferred cores lowers overall benchmarks

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I think ill waste my time crashing my Ram

rapid bronze Aug 12, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Cpu going insanely high temp then pc turns off ?

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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how high is insanely high

rapid bronze Aug 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Start pc its at 50 then 10 secs later its at 78 and shuts down

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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what CPU

rapid bronze Aug 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Its a10 7850k

hollow thorn Aug 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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did it work before

rapid bronze Aug 13, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yeah worked good

hollow thorn Aug 13, 2020, 12:00 AM

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try checking programs on startup

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seems like a software issue

upbeat lichen Aug 13, 2020, 12:04 AM

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make sure something like the fan on the cooler didn't die

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if you're not getting any airflow across the heatsink it could easily be hitting the thermal shutdown point

rapid bronze Aug 13, 2020, 12:04 AM

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could integrated graphics mess up?

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Always worked fine but I always used a gpu

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Trying integrated graphics and its getting to 90 degrees

upbeat lichen Aug 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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unlikely that would cause it to shutdown like that. before it powers itself off, try pulling up task manager to see if the CPU/iGPU is getting pegged to 100%

rapid bronze Aug 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Got lots of airflow

upbeat lichen Aug 13, 2020, 12:06 AM

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are all the fans spinning? Case fans and cpu cooler?

rapid bronze Aug 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Yeah all spinning

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Cpu is at 40 % usage but speeds at 1.6ghz norm 3.70

upbeat lichen Aug 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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what's the iGPU usage at?

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since it's an APU, if the GPU is being pegged by something it will raise the temp of the entire unit

rapid bronze Aug 13, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Plugged in gpu same crap

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Idk whats going on

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Cant be psu causing it could it ?

wintry ingot Aug 13, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Does anyone recommend a ryzen cpu for the 3070ti GPU coming out? I can’t seem to find an article that says it

charred venture Aug 13, 2020, 2:23 AM

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4th gen ryzen

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which also hasnt been released yet

upper mango Aug 13, 2020, 2:59 AM

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anybody hear of a good mobo + cpu combo deal?

charred venture Aug 13, 2020, 4:25 AM

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microcenter still has 20$ off afaik

naive pendant Aug 13, 2020, 4:56 AM

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What’s the most ram I can put on this? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119152

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hollow thorn Aug 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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4x16gb I believe

quaint current Aug 13, 2020, 5:04 AM

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128gb

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https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-Z390-A/specifications/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/assu-offers-bios-update-z390-now-supports-up-to-128-gb-ram.html#:~:text=128 GB RAM-,ASUS Offers BIOS Update%3A Z390 now,up-to 128 GB RAM&text=Asus offers a new BIOS,which models receive the update.

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minor island Aug 13, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Hello. First time posting. I have an AsRock b450m. When a fan (any fan) is plugged into CPU FAN 1 it will start making a high pitch whine sometime later.

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Not sure what what could be causing the issue or how to solve it.

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Any help would be appreciated.

neat estuary Aug 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Like. The fan speeds up and whines?

minor island Aug 13, 2020, 8:45 PM

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It was making this sound when the fan(s) were running at %50. It started with the Wraith Prism CPU cooler. At that time, I thought it was the actual CPU cooler that was starting to wear out. To troubleshoot, I plugged the Wraith Prism cooler into one of the case fan headers on the MB, and it did not make the whine anymore. The case fan (Phanteks SK120 DRGB PWM) that was disconnected for the Wraith Prism Cooler was then plugged into the CPU FAN 1 header. After a few days of use, the Phanteks fan now started making the high pitched whine noise. I am not sure if it is something on the motherboard making the noise or if it is the actual fan. When I stop the fan while it is spinning (and connected the CPU FAN 1 header) the sound will stop.

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I have recorded the sound, and will post on Youtube very soon.

rapid mortar Aug 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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MSI mpg b550 or MSI mpg x570?

minor island Aug 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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AsRock B450m

rapid mortar Aug 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I don't want ASRock

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Well let's rephrase that, I just want to know which of the MSI are better

minor island Aug 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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ohhh haha, my bad.

rapid mortar Aug 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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No it's all good. I do like one ASRock but the MSI are a little cheaper atm

minor island Aug 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I was just typing up a problem with an AsRock MB just above your question. Whenever a fan is plugged into the CPU Fan header, it will start making a high pitch whine noise. So frustrating.

rapid mortar Aug 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Ahhh, hmm like the fan starts making a noise? Or

minor island Aug 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Yeah. I am pretty sure it is the fan..... when I stop it with my finger, the sound stops as well. And it does not matter what fan I plug into the CPU Fan header - they all will start making the whine. The other fan headers on the MB do not make the fans whine.

rapid mortar Aug 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Ahh yeah sounds like the fan

hollow thorn Aug 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@rapid mortar Model matters more than the brand

rapid mortar Aug 14, 2020, 12:21 AM

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they're both gaming plus@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Aug 14, 2020, 12:23 AM

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B550, x570 gaming plus had vrm heat issues iirc

rapid mortar Aug 14, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ah okay, well thanks for the help. im just trying to find a decent board under like 175

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im sure there is better than the msi boards but idk lol

hollow thorn Aug 14, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Try the x570-p

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same price as the b550 gaming plus

rapid mortar Aug 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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how about the ASRock B550 EXTREME4

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i really like the way it looks, just idk if it performs well

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id assume its not terrible lol

wind field Aug 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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What's better a Pentium 4425y or a Intel core m3?

umbral fog Aug 14, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Isn't the new 550 tomahawk around 175?

shrewd fiber Aug 14, 2020, 2:44 AM

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What is the best budget mobo for r3 3100

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 2:44 AM

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The b450 ds3h

shrewd fiber Aug 14, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Ight I’ll check it out

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Thx

umbral fog Aug 14, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Ain't the more budget chips kinda overpriced rn?

full stag Aug 14, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I bought a motherboard from Newegg, Gigabyte b550 Aorus elite and I’m having problems with the drivers and it is occurring maybe because the mobo is faulty

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Do I open a ticket with new egg?

hollow thorn Aug 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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We can try to help :D

midnight pollen Aug 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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^ you can describe your issues here and someone may be able to help, if it doesn't end up being faulty then you can contact newegg or gigabyte

dry horizon Aug 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Probably just needs a bios update

pallid prawn Aug 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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does the ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING
support pcie express

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Yes

pallid prawn Aug 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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okay good

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phew

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 5:31 AM

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All modern motherboards should have at least one pcie slot

quick raptor Aug 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Hey all. Is this the right place to ask about how to get the right cooling system for a Haswell i5 4690k?

charred venture Aug 14, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yeah, i had a regular hyper 212 evo

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got to 4.6 all cores

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under 80 degrees at all time

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pushed another one to 4.8 under a corsair 240mm aio

wind field Aug 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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What's better a Pentium 4425y or a Intel core m3?

naive pendant Aug 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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3900xt vs 3900x

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the 3900x is 130 off

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and the 3900xt is 80 off

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and both will be off for the next 2 months

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which one is better bang for buck

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CAD prices

prisma blade Aug 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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im looking to get this pc: pcpartpicker.com/list/KJYBMc and i want to know if there is some ram around this price range that has some good rgb?

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and is 3600 mhz overkill for a r5 3600

gentle finch Aug 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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is the Asus ROG STRIX B450-F bios compatible with the ryzen 5 3600??

naive pendant Aug 14, 2020, 6:04 PM

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yes

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and is 3600 mhz overkill for a r5 3600
@prisma blade its not

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ryzen needs faster ram

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you can get away with 3200

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if you really want

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but 3600 is good

jolly pond Aug 14, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I may have made a big mistake and bought 2700

📎 Screenshot_20200814-1112522.png

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$4 more for pretty big difference in specs

naive pendant Aug 14, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yea

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can u return

naive pendant Aug 14, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Thats stupid

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Why even market the 2700 if the x variant is the same price

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On sale maybe?

jolly pond Aug 14, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Maybe

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I've had the 2700 for like a year already though and I don't think I can still return it

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I have friends building PCs this winter so I'm thinking I'll sell it to one of them for like $130 and then go buy the 3700x

desert seal Aug 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Should I upgrade from 2x 4gb to 2x 16gb for 46€ or to another 2x 4gb for about 40€?

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Depends on the speeds

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Does anyone know a good mobo around 80 to 100?

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:19 PM

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@tame narwhal What CPU?

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Ryzen 5 3600

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Do you need wifi?

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I dont understand that wifi part.

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im a beginner so sorry if i ask questions

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oh i looked it up

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uhh

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yes i would like wifi with it

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@digital kernel

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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So you have no way to use a cable to connect to the internet? That would be the preferred way

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It's cheaper and faster

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Yeah i have no cables for the internet so ill do wifi

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i can go 150 too

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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How close is your computer to your router?

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:27 PM

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my router is in the basement and my pc is upstairs

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so about like maybe 20 or 28 feet or something like that

digital kernel Aug 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Okay

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The gigabyte ds3h wifi will probably be your best bet
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HQVG3C/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-ds3h-wifi

Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

tame narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Thanks

digital kernel Aug 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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@warped scroll

desert seal Aug 15, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Depends on the speeds
@digital kernel

Speed and Company would be the same, Hyperx fury 2400mhz (My CPU can't do a lot more :()

digital kernel Aug 15, 2020, 6:48 AM

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i3?

desert seal Aug 15, 2020, 7:09 AM

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i5 7500

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Bit on the older side😬

waxen garden Aug 15, 2020, 7:39 AM

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ryzen9 3900k>Intel i9 9900k

thin shore Aug 15, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Does anyone know if i already have Corsair Vengeance 3200 with a black shroud, will the same kit but with a red shroud be compatible or will they not work together?

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topaz reef Aug 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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3900k > 3900x

thin shore Aug 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I have the black but I wanted to get the red to be a red-black-red-black pattern.

hollow thorn Aug 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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They should be the same ram with different heatsinks

topaz reef Aug 15, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@thin shore just make sure the speeds/timings are the same, theres only 4 memory companies now so they are most likely identical besides the heatsink

quaint current Aug 15, 2020, 3:24 PM

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yeah they work

thin shore Aug 15, 2020, 3:24 PM

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They are the same thing but color shroud difference.

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Ok thank you :)))

prisma blade Aug 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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i am planning on getting 2x8 gskill 3600mhz for ~75. is getting rgb ram worth spending a couple extra bucks and gettimg 3200

deep vigil Aug 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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No

long geyser Aug 15, 2020, 6:45 PM

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@prisma blade $14 extra for RGB RAM with slightly better timings then gskill
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

prisma blade Aug 15, 2020, 7:01 PM

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2 questions, how does the timings work and what is sdram

keen coral Aug 15, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Hey guys what’s the best mobo for a 2080 super with a heat sink that covers the IO and has a AMD socket.

deep vigil Aug 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Well if you want the best

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Crosshair VIII formula

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But im assuming you want a budget board

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Ish

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus this is decent for an x570

Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

keen coral Aug 15, 2020, 10:22 PM

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thanks @deep vigil i had this picked out a while ago but someone told me to get a b550 idk why but i thought this was the best choice thanks 🙂

deep vigil Aug 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@keen coral i dont know your cpu so I dont have alot to go off of lmao

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Nor a busget

keen coral Aug 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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ooh sorry lmao

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its a ryzen 7 3700x

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and im trying to shave down the budget a bit to fit in a 3070

deep vigil Aug 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yes a b550 should be good

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Just do expect to put in a 3950x

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And oc it

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@keen coral also if your olny gaming the 3700x and 3600 are very very similar

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If gaming perf

keen coral Aug 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Okay

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Thanks

prisma blade Aug 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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is b450 tomahawk max good for a $1000 build

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2060 s and r5 3600

umbral fog Aug 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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i mean it works

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if you arent particularly keen on features and overclocking you could go for cheaper

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actually there is a new b550 thats about the price of a b450 tomahawk and has wifi

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there is a new msi b550 for like 110 and it comes with wifi but its matx

compact sun Aug 16, 2020, 12:41 AM

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whats the best priced m2 drive for an am4 asus crosshair vii mb?

compact sun Aug 16, 2020, 1:10 AM

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addlink X70 2TB RGB SSD w/Heatsink NVMe PCIe

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i was thinking bout this one 🙂

upper aspen Aug 16, 2020, 1:29 AM

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How much should I undervolt my i5-8300H (I'm using a laptop)

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 1:32 AM

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you shouldnt @upper aspen

upper aspen Aug 16, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Why not?

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@neat estuary

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Because your cpu is a low voltage model already just to work in a labtop.. I dont think you will gain anything except instability

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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hey guys, do you think i should upgrade my i5 9400f to something like a ryzen 3600 ?

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or 3700x

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i got a 2070 rtx

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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you wont get much in terms of game performance improvements

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at least not enough to justify the cost of a new cpu and board

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yea i see

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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at best you get an average 20 fps boost

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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which is nothing

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yeah, and thats only a max

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sometimes you could even see the same fps

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which is definitely not worth 300+

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your pc will run fine for the next few years, no real reason to upgrade untill your trying to play a game and it doesnt run as you want it to

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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yea man thanks alot

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i have one more question about my mouse

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it just stops shooting mid spray

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do you happen to know why

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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what mouse

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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g703 logitech

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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have you tried reinstalling the software for it

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also, is it wireless

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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yea it is

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and by software what do you mean

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the logitech app

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?

deep vigil Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Different usb port?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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how far is the mouse from the dongle?

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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its like really close to iut

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it

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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i mean the logitech software for the mouse

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idk what its called, most expensive peripherals have it

deep vigil Aug 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Logitech g hub

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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yea i used to have it installed

deep vigil Aug 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Install it

clear coral Aug 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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since it bugged

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sometimes

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i deleted it

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I will

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thanks alot guys

heady steppe Aug 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Im currently using a ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 AM4 DDR4 ATX Motherboard but it died on me. Im currently running a Ryzen 9 3900x

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anyone got any good suggestion for MOBOS

urban ferry Aug 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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have you tried to RMA it?

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it might still be under warranty?

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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one death of a mobo doesnt mean it's bad

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could just mean you're unlucky

heady steppe Aug 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I got it second hand which probably wasnt the best idea

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i mean. clear the cmos fixes most boards

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Dose anyone know a good cpu for $130

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Intel

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 7:50 PM

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for what socket?

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@topaz shuttle

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 7:51 PM

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1151

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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with current prices, that is a awkward spot

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150 usd = 9400F

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110 usd = 9100

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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and the 9400F is the clear winner of those two imo

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but, what mainboard do you have?

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(just to make certain that the CPU in question is actually supported)

trim dust Aug 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4

good or no good

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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If my board only has 2 fan headers can I put three fans in my case

digital kernel Aug 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Yes, you'll need a fan splitter or power adapater though

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Good

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@trim dust good board

trim dust Aug 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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perf thank you

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$10 bucks cheaper than what i had before

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can put that into ram

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Yes

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Was kinda surprised that cheap of a board has alc1200

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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What's a good fan splitter

trim dust Aug 16, 2020, 8:48 PM

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think i’m gonna order stuff now

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only have enough rn for half haha

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or do i wait till black friday

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 8:50 PM

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If you don't have enough, wait

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Buy all at once

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 8:52 PM

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What's a good fan splitter for 4 pin board connector to 4 pin molex fan connector

trim dust Aug 16, 2020, 8:53 PM

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got it

short sage Aug 16, 2020, 8:58 PM

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would you say ryzen 9 3900x is gonna be good for the next few years

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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its gonna be good for the next decade probably

short sage Aug 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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good to hear

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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until it fails, or until you really need more than 12/24

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and considering not much software is multithreaded, it will take a while for high thread cpus like that to become commonplace

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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or innovation takes another big step

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We can't predict the exact future

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just trends

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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well, were going from 7nm to like .4 or something, which wont really net absurd clock speed increases

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unless it magically does

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but unlikely at this point

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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magic

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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after than we need something other than silicon

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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well ..

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@main pulsar do keep in mind, we are getting new consoles, which is going to help on what game engines are using as the "baseline"

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:02 PM

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well, stacking i guess

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:02 PM

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re: materials: aye, silicon is slowly moving out

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:03 PM

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its gonna take time for game developers to make their games more multithreaded, and the new consoles having so many threads will help with that

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so yes, your right, but its probably gonna take a while

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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aye aye, not saying it will happen this year or anything @main pulsar :)

short sage Aug 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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So you think the new games that come with the next gen consoles will in turn cause more games to become multithreaded

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yeah, i know

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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just saying that the "deck" is starting to be very stacked in favour of multi

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 9:04 PM

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If I have a pci x16 will a gpu with a pci 3.0 work in ot

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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yes

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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developers will take advantage of the hardware they are developing for, and with intel no longer forcing 4c/8t down consumers throats, more devs are gonna make their games scale on cpus like the 3900x

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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if you mean pci-e 3.0 that is.

topaz shuttle Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Yws

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Yes

short sage Aug 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Good to know thanks @main pulsar

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:06 PM

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games that are being released now started development back when low thread count cpus were everywhere

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so games starting development now will run on engines that are designed to utilize the most commonplace hardware

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:07 PM

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hence why i said game engines :)

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:07 PM

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today, thats consoles with 16 threads

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and pcs with up to 32 on the consumer side

gritty meadow Aug 16, 2020, 9:08 PM

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and fx epic has made some interesting strides in regards to multi support.

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Hey guys I could use some insight

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:21 PM

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insight

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there you go

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use it wisely

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headpoke

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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insight on what tho

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I am looking for a mobo for my Ryzen 7 3700x. I was going to get the TUF Gaming but I saw that it doesn’t have a Type C header for my case

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I want to get the Meshify S2 case. But It would be incomplete without an IO port not being able to be utilized

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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What case? If it's a NZXT H510 I'd recommend against it and instead go for a different case.

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Fair enough, I'll go take a look at what b550 boards have USB-C internal header

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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So essentially I want a Mobo that’s comparable to the TUF gaming with a USB c header. I was looking at 360$ Mobo but going from 180 to 360 is giving me a huge red flag and I’m trying not to spend double for a dang header

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331

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its even got wifi

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Oh also I hear that the X570 are just better to consider over the 550 boards

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:29 PM

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not at all

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that is a complete lie lol

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there is literally no reason to consider x570 unless you really need all that IO

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and let me tell you, its a lot of IO

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Shipped from China, heres the link to buy directly from Newegg
https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331?Item=N82E16813144331

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Ok so what’s everyone’s view on 550 vs X570? Basically I hear that that the 550 have less stuff to offer at the same price point

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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B550 = cheap x570 - extra fluff

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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the chipset is mostly irrelevant for most people

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just ignore it, treat them the same

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and pick a board that fits for what you need it to do

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yep

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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if it ends up being x570, so be it

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if its b550, thats all good to

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Chipset differences aren't important between b550 and x570

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it's just pcie gen 4 chipset lanes

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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The only upside im seeing in b550 over x570 is that the B550s seem to have better memory support

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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cheap

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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a year newer tech i guess

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Memory topology depends completely on motherboard

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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they arent cheaper

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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chipsets got nothing to do with it afaik

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yea and that’s cool with me too. I’m looking forward to iverclock my CPU (I have never done it on my first rig) and good memory support

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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wdym b550 ds3h be like 95$ cheapest decent x570 board being 150$

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Ok... if you want the garbage

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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???

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B550 Phantom gaming 4 then

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105$

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ATX

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I wont consider any board under 150$

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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ALC1200

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2xM.2 Key M

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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the best boards are under 150

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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It's a great board

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seriously

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that ain't garbage

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Okay so if we are talking about x570, which board is decent? And I agree with @neat estuary I I don’t like spending money on cheap crap

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I will spend good amount of money on really good stuff

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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the board i sent is the best mATX for your needs, the Phantom Gaming 4 is the best ATX for your needs

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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After 130$ their are soime good B550s if your happy with the features they provide

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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???? Do you have anything to say about the 105$ B550 phantom gaming 4?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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for you guys, its all just PCB...

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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VRM and PCB

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I like to ignore VRMs for Ryzen unless they have issues or you're running a 3950x

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Also has to be ATX form factor, no mAtx

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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whats wrong with mATX?

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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also btw for gaming 4, the AC version has only 4 SATA ports and smth else missing I think. non AC version is nice, just get the M2 E and antennas separately

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yea I'm talking non-ac

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I want a large form factor

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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just to look good?

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thats fine tbh

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yea I like the size

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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cant argue with that

naive pendant Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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It’s an aesthetic thing for me

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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not an issue when ds3h->Phantom gaming 4 is just 10$ apart

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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i like beeg boards to, cant lie

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:37 PM

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anyways sad phantom gaming 4 doesn't have internal usb 3.2

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wait

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main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145153

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hahaha

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AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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i want this

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its quite the meaty board

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Damn fr

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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type C uses 3.2 gen 2 btw

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I thought that was mATX for a second

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oh shoot

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I thought it was 3.2 = type c

neat estuary Aug 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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The First board with the type c header is the Asrock Steel Legend i believe

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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nah, 3.2 gen 1 still the 20-1 pin block

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I see

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I love the mobo sheet

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so good

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Let's see

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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im building a new pc and went with the maximus xii hero. any objections or is that a good choice?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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eh

quaint current Aug 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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pretty overkill and expensive for basically all 10th gen chips

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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there are plenty of cheaper boards that will do everything you need your board to do at a much lower price

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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its in the middle price wise. i need a decent board for heavy overclocking

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not like its the $800 maximus xii extreme

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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heavy overclocking a 10900k, i assume

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yep

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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why are you investing in a almost dead platform? Wait for 11th gen and probs z590?

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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11 gen is gonna be z490 too

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yeah

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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but most likely still new boards

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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not really

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boards only come out when theres a new socket or port

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like how all mobos now say they can do pcie 4.0 even tho there are no cards that do that

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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well, amd cards do pcie 4.0

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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well, they might be able to do it okay. But hard to tell how many PCIe gen4 issues there are on z490 when no gen4 CPUs are out for Intel

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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not that its needed

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what is your total budget for this system?

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thats what i wanna know

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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$3100

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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also am pretty sure that z370 and z390 were the same

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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what pc do you have now? is this system literally just for ocing?

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or are you due for an upgrade

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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rn i have a 9700k with a 2070

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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oh

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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but im selling that pre built for $1500

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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eh

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just hold on to it, dont blow money on 10th gen

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wait for intel 12 gen

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gonna be poggers

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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or just go AMD

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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and there will be real improvements

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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12th gen is kinda far away

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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nah i need to sell it pre built for a $400 profit before next gen nvidia cards are out and it tanks

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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9700k to 10900k is like no perf improvements in a majority of games

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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then just sell the GPU

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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nah

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u make a lot more money on pre built systems bc people are lazy

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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oh, i see what your doing, building modern pcs, then selling em for more than you paid, using that money to invest into a slightly newer system

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smart

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yep

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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get a step in like 1660S, sell the 9700+1660S when you need to

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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honestly, sell that machine, then we will help you build another intel system

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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im a broke college kid investing literally everything i have into these pcs for a small profit

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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nah hei, this dudes got a point

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new pc every year, resell the old one for a slight profit to clueless people on facebook

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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yup

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i just sold a brand new 2080ti to some dude for $1600

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bought it for $1200

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:36 PM

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you want a kick ass board? get https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XII-APEX

ASUS Global

ROG MAXIMUS XII APEX | Motherboards | ASUS Global

ROG MAXIMUS XII APEX

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push that memory to hell and back, more VRMs than you will ever need

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and it looks sick

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:37 PM

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yeah but thats almost double the hero and for a small upgrade

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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its not double

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but yeah, its like a hundred more

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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how far are you taking this "extreme OC"?

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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the hero is $380

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thats $680

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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its like 420

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:39 PM

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where?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:39 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087YK8P2C

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:39 PM

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delid+LM, lapping the die, direct die, etc?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:40 PM

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either way, sell the system first, then come back when your ready to buy

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Yes hei ofc

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:40 PM

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or, use the system for the next 5 years, because itll be fine

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Don't forget dice/ln2

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:41 PM

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ill look into it

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:41 PM

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you're spending a lot on this board... If you arent even going for the cooling or actual OC part then just get a standard z490 board

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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me?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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who else lmao

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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idk i never said i want cooling lol

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Anyways yea fr its not worth spending like 600$ on a Mobo unless you make money from OCing

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Beefier VRMs only benefit from sub ambient cooling beyond a certain point

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i9s run hot everybody knows that. i have a 360mm aio plus 6 more 120mm fans. with an air cooled gpu

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its gonna be plenty cool

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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let me guess, O11 dynamic?

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Are you running chiller/dice/ln2?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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probably not

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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yep

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to the o11

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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lol nailed it

quaint current Aug 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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o11 op

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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dude the case is sexy and efficient

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who can pass that up?

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:47 PM

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what kind of TIM tho?

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standard IHS + thermal paste?

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any lapping?

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:48 PM

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hei, he obviously isnt going past like 5.5 ghz

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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no point in Apex or Hero then

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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looks tho

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hes reselling the pc next year

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regardless

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that was my point

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i also would suggest a much cheaper board

quaint current Aug 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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if u want looks just go strix

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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but for the sake of argument, using cool parts for fun, then just getting all your money back is a great idea

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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if i get my financial situation on track i might keep the pc. in that case i want the good stuff plus im going to add hard custom tubing

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thank you

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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except how much would that board up the resell value? Keep the resell at say $3500 for both this system vs the same system but cheaper board and get more profit

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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well, dont plan on that

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its your money, if you even think about keeping the system, then those boards are an absolute waste of money

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but they will hold their value for a long time

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

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they wont be all that bad if you go a bit more then just thermal paste tho

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

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yeah thats why i went with an lga1200 socket bc theyre new and will be around for a while

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

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well, with intel, that z490 chipset motherboard is only good for 10+11th gen, regardless of the sockets physical appearance

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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thermal paste will cover me if i resell and if i dont then a whole new cooling system is getting installed

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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eh, a good AIO does a lot more then you think it'd do

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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you should plan to either keep it or resell it now, instead of later

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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or so they say... until they stand to profit from 12th gen compatibility

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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nah

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intel wouldnt

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:54 PM

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like seriously, dual NZXT x63 AIO on CPU/GPU can go against high end custom loops

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:54 PM

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yeah but looks sell

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if i keep it now and sell 5 years from now custom loops will get me a lot more that aios

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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sell 5 years from now?

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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idk

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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eh

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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sell when im too broke to live

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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old prebuilts lose more value than the actual components themselves

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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just buy a Bykski kit for $350 and sell for $900 extra in a system

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fully RGB and all

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yeah

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:56 PM

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ill look into it

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:56 PM

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR

aliexpress.com

US $100.29 13% OFF|Bykski B HSRBW ED, RBW 5v 3pin Soft Tube Progra...

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

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can ask for customizations and all, so ask for like hardline or smth and maybe be $50 extra

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or more, idk price of hardline

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:57 PM

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the tubing isnt the problem. its the extremely overpriced heat plates

main pulsar Aug 16, 2020, 10:57 PM

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you mean cpu and gpu blocks

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

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ye

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

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overpriced if from EK

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Bykski/Barrow sell them for cheap

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Pump res can be overpriced too

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

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cpu isnt that bad but gpu is

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Formulamod considers the CPU block to be worth $17 USD in that bundle

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I gotta check but Corsair had it at like 150$ for the GPU block and like 100$ for the CPU block

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:59 PM

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thats still a lot

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Bykski is $92 USD by itself

fading lynx Aug 16, 2020, 10:59 PM

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u can get an aio for less and then u have to run tubing and all that

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 10:59 PM

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?

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Hei what store sold bykski stuff in the US?

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Gotta find it because that 100$ AliExpress shipping is crazy

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Well there is Formulamod's actual site. Tho shipping prices are only calculated on request

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cuz they change daily for FM

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So they dont list prices on the site anymore, until Human Malware ends or smth

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Bykski has a US site, but no kits like FM

hollow thorn Aug 16, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Rip

long geyser Aug 16, 2020, 11:05 PM

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but still, even if high shipping the total cost is still low as heck compared to a lot of other options

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also wait, shipping back down to $100 USD for you? Shipping to US use to be $150 a week ago or smth

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ah, $120 USD

quaint current Aug 16, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i wonder if it would be semi cheap to get someone to proxy it

sudden coral Aug 17, 2020, 2:25 AM

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So I found a 1700x for sale near me but I'm not sure if i should get it?

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$100

main pulsar Aug 17, 2020, 2:43 AM

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nah

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3300x would be way more worth it, unless your planning to use the 1700x for something that hits all of its cores 100% at all times

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like rendering or folding

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 2:54 AM

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I got a question

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Im trying to buy some ram

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One of the items is G.Skill Trident Z Neo Series RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 PC4-28800 CL16 Dual Channel Memory Kit F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC - Black

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The other is G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 PC4-28800 CL18 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit F4-3600C18D-16GTZN - Black

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Is there a difference

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Bc one is priced more then the other

cyan falcon Aug 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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its been a while since ive said anything here

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has anyone else put thermal paste in their socket?

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because last time i was here someone did

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 3:32 AM

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@naive pendant the first set You listed has tighter timings and will be slightly faster ram

pale mango Aug 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@naive pendant The price difference between CL 16 and CL 18 is unimportant, I have a 32GB 8x4 set of those DRAMs that are CL14

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I paid a ton extra for my kit, the difference in performance is not a big deal, it's essentially down to the motherboard design (which can limit OC potential) and the memory controller of the CPU (which faster RAM won't help much once it exceeds what the CPU can handle)

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If everything is optimal, you're talking up to 10% more FPS in a game WHEN the CPU and GPU are fast enough the RAM is at peak performance.

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That's more often the limitation with a Ryzen CPU, less so with a Intel CPU

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due to design

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XMP profiles aren't automatically applied, that must be done manually in BIOS

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Thanks

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Hi guys i wanna buy some ram

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And I need help

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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How much? What budget? Amd or Intel cpu?

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@clear coral

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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16 gb

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around 100$ more or less

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intel cpu

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Ok so probably 2 8 gig sticks

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And doesn't need to be super fast since it's intel

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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i only need it for gaming

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Ok

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Can definitely find some for way under 100$

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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i think i got 1 16 gb slot

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Oh ok

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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but i wanna change it

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i think its slow

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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What speed is it at?

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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is it the DRAM frequency ?

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Yes

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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1330

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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So speed doesn't matter a ton with Intel builds

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But that is kinda slow

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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ik xD

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prebuild problems

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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And it's a 16 gig stick?

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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yes

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Ddr4?

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:42 AM

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yea

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:43 AM

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2666-3200 would be a decent speed for Intel

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Just try to find a kit with the lowest latency

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Latency is marked by cl-16 for example

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:44 AM

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does this help ?

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:45 AM

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It says you have 2 slots

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:45 AM

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yes only 1 in use

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1 16 gb stick i meant

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I think your fine honestly

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Look at the speed

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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so i dont need 2x ram sticks

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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2666 is fine for Intel

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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for it to be better

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Not necessary

clear coral Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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okay thanks alot for your time man

eternal helm Aug 17, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Yeah

mild kernel Aug 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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When u cant post a pic in a chat that usually needs a picture to help explain

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Smh

drowsy nymph Aug 17, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Level up better noob.

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xD

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JK but you need Regular to post photos.

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You can't spam the chat to gain levels but just holding conversations with people works pretty fast.

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Helping a guy diagnose a newer pc he built. X570 MoBo 3700x. Just crashed mid game. Can get into bios but after it says attempting self repair then boot loops. Tried new MoBo. Debug led hits boot, then cpu, then it repeats. Tried ram in different system as well as gpu. It all works.

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My advice atm is cpu died. I’d like some support

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Also removed drives this is same on windows media

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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No XMP set. No oc. Just default

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 12:52 PM

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I think JayzTwoCents did a video on the same issue. Lemme get the link

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It’s titled “the test bench refused to boot” on his channel

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it could be BIOS settings for CPU or memory. Did he try clearing all of those settings? @neat estuary

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Yes cmos cleared

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Windows Media?

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@neat estuary without a drive only windows Media creation tool might be an issue, slap in at least 1 drive

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Sounds to me like maybe a corrupt bios or something, but you did try a new board

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Exactly. I’ve done the windows media thing on my personal pc and it worked fine. Their was just nowhere to install windows

devout mothBOT Aug 17, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Cru4y#2043 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Lmaooo

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No bad words lmfaoooo

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 2:28 PM

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@naive pendant That vid matches the symptoms perfectly. We tested the gpu a old intel board and it worked

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Hehe Newegg too polite

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 2:29 PM

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If it’s the issue it’s now not worked in two different AMD boards

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We will try a different gpu. Thanks for that vid

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Yea maybe a different GPU

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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EVGA 2080 super too

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Hm weird

upper aspen Aug 17, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Is Intel Xeon E5-2690 V4 2.6 GHz 14-Core Processor good for gaming?

warped scroll Aug 17, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Xeons weren’t built for gaming. They were built for server and workstation tasks, but I mean, if you can find one, as well as a motherboard, at a good price I guess it can work

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Isn’t gaming a single core thing

warped scroll Aug 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Can be

naive pendant Aug 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Like you don’t need multiple Threads

warped scroll Aug 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Multiple threads are highly desired

charred venture Aug 17, 2020, 4:13 PM

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gaming on a single core intel processor :))

warped scroll Aug 17, 2020, 4:14 PM

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My intel celeron 440 will destroy any other processor

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Gaming is like a quad core task nowadays

brisk flume Aug 17, 2020, 4:53 PM

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im trying to make a Ryzen 3 3200g run with a Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H and it didnt post, figured out it was because the mobo needs a bios update so ima put my 1700x on it to make it post and install the bios update. Does any bios version work (getting the latest) or do i have to get one specifically. Its my first time doing this so i have no clue how it works

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Try newest

brisk flume Aug 17, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ty ❤️

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Looks like anything beyond F40 supports 3rd gen APUs to me

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@brisk flume looks like you need to get F32 before updating to F40 or later

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You'll see on the gigabyte page

brisk flume Aug 17, 2020, 5:00 PM

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can i download both at the same time on the same USB?

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@hollow thorn would it work w just the F32?

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Aparently, you need to download and flash f32

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Then after that's done you can do f52 or whatever you want @brisk flume

brisk flume Aug 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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becuase i only have 2 USB and im going to a friends house so i need one for windows and the other for F32

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Download f32

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Flash it once

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Then download f52 or whatever and delete f32 from usb

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And flash that

brisk flume Aug 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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and then windows?

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Sure

worn jackal Aug 17, 2020, 7:04 PM

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So saw a deal on Corsair RGB 2x8GB 3600 C18. Was thinking about getting 2x16. Any advantage to getting 2x16 over 4x8 other than future ability to add? Also, is it worth getting 3600 C18 over 3200 C16?

neat estuary Aug 17, 2020, 7:20 PM

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The motherboard will have a easier time hitting the higher speeds with only two dimms over 4.

urban ermine Aug 17, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I have a question, im kind of new to the pc thing so im unsure of what i can and cant do as far as ram

gritty patio Aug 17, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@urban ermine wym can and can't do

urban ermine Aug 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I'm unsure if I can add more ram to my pc is what I mean

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But I think I got it figured out

rapid bronze Aug 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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what should my cpu temp be maxing out at ?

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should i be worried if my cpu temp goes above 80 when im gaming ?

topaz shuttle Aug 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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How fast of ram can the ryzen 3 3200g handle

digital kernel Aug 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@rapid bronze 80 is fine for gaming

rapid bronze Aug 17, 2020, 9:59 PM

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its hitting 85-87 sometimes

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but normally 70-80

digital kernel Aug 17, 2020, 9:59 PM

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That's fine

rapid bronze Aug 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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okay good was all worried

topaz shuttle Aug 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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How fast of ram can the ryzen 3 3200g handle

digital kernel Aug 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Probably would depend on the motherboard

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I can confirm that zen+ can run 3200MHz though

topaz shuttle Aug 17, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Ok

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For a wifi board do you need to get anything to connect to wifi

digital kernel Aug 17, 2020, 10:07 PM

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They're usually plug and play

topaz shuttle Aug 17, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Ok

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What is a good budget board for the 3 3200g

hollow thorn Aug 17, 2020, 10:43 PM

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b450 ds3h

old oxide Aug 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Question about the Gigabyte B550M DS3H and and m.2 ssd. Which slot should it go in to be bootable?

eternal helm Aug 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@old oxide

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The one right under the cpu

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📎 20200817_231239.jpg

old oxide Aug 18, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Thanks @eternal helm

grim drum Aug 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Whats mobo

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Motherboard

naive pendant Aug 18, 2020, 11:50 AM

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im on a i5-9400f rn but (i think?) i went a little bit too cheap on the motherboard. It's a ASUS Prime H310M-E 2.0. The only PCI Express slot is taken up by the GPU and I wanted to add wireless compatibility to my computer. Would it be better to get a better mobo for my current CPU or just go cheaper and get the USB ones for now and just wait till i upgrade to a better system just get

rugged sierra Aug 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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get the usb ones i have the same mobo and it is cheap but it works

wicked pawn Aug 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Hello everybody

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Guys I got a Ryzen 7 3700x paired with an ASRock B450m Pro, did I mess up?

deep vigil Aug 18, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Ehhhh

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Don't plan to do any oci ng

fresh plinth Aug 18, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Although you should still be able to OC a little bit, just dont push it too much

next sentinel Aug 18, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Hey guys, so I have a quick question. I am considering an upgrade to a 3900x, but dont know which motherboard to go to. Thought about the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS but dont know if its the best choice. What do you guys think?

pallid prawn Aug 18, 2020, 6:46 PM

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hey, what should i get, an ROG Strix b450f-gaming or b450 tomahawk max

warped scroll Aug 18, 2020, 6:48 PM

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B450f is a little better iirc

long geyser Aug 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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b450f is leagues better in quality

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but also, b550 Phantom Gaming 4 is slightly better then ROG b450f due to M2 E port + Gen4 PCIe and also cheaper

naive pendant Aug 18, 2020, 7:05 PM

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and a b450 arous Motherboard for 200 dollars a decent deal?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Yes, if it's everything new

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Used 3600+b450 for 200$ is meh

umbral fog Aug 18, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah 3600 has risen in price a little, but if it's new

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Think it's back to 175 rn right?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 7:21 PM

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3600 new used to be 150 or so, b450 around 100, so 250 new, so I'd say 160$ for that used is good

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3600 is 180$ when I checked

mild jackal Aug 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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3600max

naive pendant Aug 18, 2020, 7:59 PM

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any ideas what UF stamp on a ryzen 5 3600 means?

naive pendant Aug 18, 2020, 8:18 PM

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So I made a decision already on the Mobo

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I got an Aorus X570 Master for my 3700x. I have never over clocked a CPU so I got good gear to get it done

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Does anyone have a guide on how to overclock

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I have this build (pcpartpicker.com/list/z6vPPn) and i already bought the 970 evo so what is a good mobo to pair with it?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:22 PM

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B550 phantom gaming 4

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:23 PM

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you think b550

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i heard that x570 has less compromises

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:24 PM

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...?

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like

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:24 PM

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b550 is fine

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:24 PM

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(also yaknow that's a b450 tomahawk max in your list right)

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:24 PM

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yeah

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whats the main difference between the x series vs B

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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better vrms and io

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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on which one?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Only real compromise between the chipsets is chipset 4.0 lanes

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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overall

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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vrms and io are dependent on the specific motherboards

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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on my build tho, b550 makes more sense?

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Yes

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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ok

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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unless you want to splurge with a 3900x or something, go b550

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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yea x570 boards are usually more $$$ and have a few more features

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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or unless you need like PCIe 4.0 x4 slots for some reason

quaint current Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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b550 is fine for 99% of builds

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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k

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and you said the B550 phantom gaming 4

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Yes

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it's a great board for the price

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so much better than tomahawk max lol

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:27 PM

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does it share sata with the m.2

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(bandwith)

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like the tomo max does

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:27 PM

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no

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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ok

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i will look into it

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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tomahawk only has 1 M.2 slot

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phantom gaming 4 has 2 with 1 PCIe 4.0 1 PCIe 3.0

prisma blade Aug 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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and wrong channel but what is a good ~3 pack of fans for -$50

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my case comes with 2

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meshify

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c

hollow thorn Aug 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Arctic P12/P14

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whichever fits