#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 119

lethal glacier Jul 29, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Is a 5 3600xt better than a 7 3700x?

hollow thorn Jul 29, 2020, 7:12 PM

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no

slim zealot Jul 29, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Not sure where to put this as there isnt a channel for it, but this is the biggest channel. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good wifi card that's under $100?

hollow thorn Jul 29, 2020, 7:56 PM

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biggest in name only lmfao

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brb

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@slim zealot here
https://www.newegg.com/tp-link-archer-tx3000e-pci-express/p/N82E16833704507

slim zealot Jul 29, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Thanks man!

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Very helpful 🙂

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Great price for bluetooth and wifi, wish more mobos would just come with it

hollow thorn Jul 29, 2020, 8:00 PM

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eh, mobos do, just at a higher price

slim zealot Jul 29, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Yeah, definitely not in my budget for right now lol

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One day though

sterile sphinx Jul 29, 2020, 10:26 PM

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do i have to overclock my ram in order for it to run at its advertized speed?

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ddr4

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:28 PM

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hi - I need to get more RAM too need suggestions - can anyone help?

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desktop - ddr3 - 4 slots - 2 stick in there now 4g want to add more - need to make sure I get the right ones - I'd up it to at least 16g but does that mean I need to get 4 4gs?

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what if I got just 1 8g - will that work?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:31 PM

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That is a whole lot of info

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If you are upgrading then youll need the same exact ram

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:32 PM

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the MB can go up to 32

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:32 PM

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so are you saying you currently have 4gbs in dual channel/

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?

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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if I take the 4g out (2 2gs) and stick 1 8g will that work or do I need 2 of everything?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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that will work

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but it would be better to get 2 more 2gb sticks for quad channel

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

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just our of curiosity - can I leave the 2 2gs in there and add 2 8g?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

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no

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

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k

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

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it has to be the same model

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I suggest doubling what you have now

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

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so if I get 2 more 2g I'll have 8g total

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:35 PM

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there are performance advantages to have multiple sticks of ram

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yes that would be optimal

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but it has to be the same model you have now

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:35 PM

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this is what I'm looking at https://www.newegg.com/crucial-4gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820148262?Item=9SIAKD3B5T0362

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Ok, is that the same thing you have in your system right now

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:36 PM

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you mean brand wise?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:36 PM

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brand and model

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exact same thing

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:37 PM

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speccy says I have 4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:37 PM

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hmm

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if you dont have the same brand you might have to get new ram

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because to guarantee that it works it has to be the same exact ram that you currently have in your system

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:38 PM

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same company?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Same company, same brand, same model,

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM

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how so I see that without opening the case?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM

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You will most likely have to get new ram if you cant figure out what you currently have

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM

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r u sure?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM

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You will have to probably open your case

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yes

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unless you look inside your case and there is clear branding or a model number

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If you can figure out what you have then you will have to get the same thing

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If you have to get new ram i suggest this

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:41 PM

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that's weird why did other people say it didn't matte the brand?

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:41 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-8gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231460?Description=8gb ddr3&cm_re=8gb_ddr3-_-20-231-460-_-Product

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There is a chance it will work but to be safe you should probably use the same brand

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:42 PM

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well if I don't use the same brand I can up the RAM

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Ok?

naive pendant Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I'm going to have to ask Thio now this is getting too convoluted

nova trail Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

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ok

keen coral Jul 29, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Is a b 250 mobo good for a Intel i7 7700 processor

long geyser Jul 29, 2020, 11:05 PM

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It's okay. But you can sell the 7700 for a high price and get some AMD CPU that perfs better with almost no extra cost

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Okay thanks

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:31 AM

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how is this for a ~$600 build?

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Check this out on @vague haven: AMD RYZEN 3 3200G 4-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD3200C5FHBOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3200g/p/N82E16819113571?Item=9SIA2W0AG50622&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA2W0AG50622-_-07292020

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I think it looks good... but what are the other specs?

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:40 AM

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wdym

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like the other parts?

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Yeh

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That you’re pairing with it

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:41 AM

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currently picking out

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how much should a motherboard paired with that be

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100?

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:42 AM

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No you can get cheaper

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:42 AM

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alright

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how about this? HUANANZHI B85 M-ATX Desktop Motherboard CPU 1150 Core i3 i5 i7 Socket 1150 DDR3 VGA+DVI+HDMI https://www.newegg.com/huananzhi-b85m-atx/p/1JW-00D3-00012?Item=9SIAGKC9BG0340&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAGKC9BG0340-_-07292020

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:47 AM

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If you’re going to get a ryzen CPU you’ve got to get a am4 socket mobo

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:47 AM

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a what

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is it like a connector?

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:47 AM

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It’s a motherboard for the AMD cpus

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:48 AM

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ah

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i’ll check

gritty patio Jul 30, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Oh Lawdy

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:48 AM

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If you go to PCpartpicker.com it will show you things you can use with the other parts you’ve already picked

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I’m not the best at this so I go t on pcpartpicker

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 1:49 AM

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that might be better than the newegg app

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thank you

keen coral Jul 30, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Yea no problem Newegg prices are usually the best though and they have great deals all of the time.

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 2:08 AM

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intel i3-9100F or Ryzen 5 3600

hollow thorn Jul 30, 2020, 2:09 AM

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for what

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3600 wins most of the time

trim dust Jul 30, 2020, 2:09 AM

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ok thank you

long geyser Jul 30, 2020, 3:02 AM

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@trim dust if you want a $600 PC then here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZYYwdm

System Builder

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Good cpu motherboard memory alongside a good storage for cheap?

icy field Jul 30, 2020, 3:20 AM

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so a whole pc

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:20 AM

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B550

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Ripjaws

icy field Jul 30, 2020, 3:20 AM

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budget? @woven cosmos

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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well ive a i5-4460 + 8gb ram

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Teamgroup ssd

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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currently

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2,7tb storage 3 hdd's

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Is that ddr3?

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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yes ddr3

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Ok

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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i wanna switch to an am4 motherboard but i need a cheap alternative

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Are you using all 2.7tb?

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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no obv not

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 AM

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If not, you should use raid

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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raid?

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Yeah

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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using like 1.3tb

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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I think there's a tech quickie video on it

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Wait a sec

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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feel free to dm me

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ive also a 1050ti

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:22 AM

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https://youtu.be/eE7Bfw9lFfs

YouTube

Techquickie

RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10 - All You Need to Know as Fast As Possible

RAID 0/1/10 are the simplest forms of RAID for hard drives and SSDs. This brief overview aims to give you a basic understanding of how they work

FORUM LINK: http://linustechtips.com/main/news-reviews-article-guides/linus-videos-news-and-ramblings/47101-temporary-thread-for-te...

▶ Play video

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There you go

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:23 AM

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ah yes thank you sir

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 AM

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So, if you're upgrading the mobo, ram, cpu, and storage, you should just sell your current pc and build a new one tbh

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No problem

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 AM

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i play alot of FiveM on my setup, some days it runs smooth af somedays its doo doo

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Ok

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Are you using ethernet?

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 AM

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90mbps

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Oh, nice

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:25 AM

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yessirr

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Do you mind getting on the game real quick and checking task manager under the performance section?

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:25 AM

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game of who

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which

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:26 AM

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FiveM

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Or whatever lags the most

woven cosmos Jul 30, 2020, 3:26 AM

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wanna take it to dms?

thorny frigate Jul 30, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Sure

vivid hearth Jul 30, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Anyone got any good deals on lga1155 mobo's?

hushed pagoda Jul 30, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Does anyone know of a good and cheap CPU that is compatible with the asus p8z77-v lx2 motherboard?

fallow jasper Jul 30, 2020, 11:50 AM

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@hushed pagoda that motherboard can handle an i7-3770 which is about $70-$80 used which is a pretty decent CPU

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or a i5-3570 which goes for about $30-$40 and just doesnt have as many threads, but has the same core count (4) and is about 0.2-0.3GHz slower

hushed pagoda Jul 30, 2020, 12:19 PM

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thanks

fallow jasper Jul 30, 2020, 12:26 PM

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np

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if you look up the motherboard + cpu compatability the compatability list should pop up and tell you all the compatible ones

upbeat canyon Jul 30, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I’m having a bit of a challenge finding a mobo that has a AM3+ slot and supports M.2. Anyone know of something out there other than the ASUS 970 Aura Pro (which apparently isn’t being made since I can’t find a new one)?

warped scroll Jul 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I don’t think any am3+ motherboards are gonna be sold for a reasonable price new. You’re better off looking used

knotty sierra Jul 30, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Hey so I’m trying to upgrade my memory on a HP 280 G2 Microtower PC. I wanted to add another 4 gb card to the one i already have. It says it needs a DDR4-2133. Does anyone have any advice on which card to get or have a link to one which would work for my computer?

primal wren Jul 30, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@knotty sierra https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvZxr/gskill-memory-f42133c15s4gis will this work

G.Skill Aegis 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) DDR4-2133 CL15 Memory

supple monolith Jul 30, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Hey so I’m trying to upgrade my memory on a HP 280 G2 Microtower PC. I wanted to add another 4 gb card to the one i already have. It says it needs a DDR4-2133. Does anyone have any advice on which card to get or have a link to one which would work for my computer?
@knotty sierra You want to make sure you get the same timings, preferably same model. Speed can be faster, but will only run at 2133 if that is what the board supports

small tulip Jul 31, 2020, 2:58 AM

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https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-13-145-222&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-Mobile-_-pla-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-9B-13-145-222&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2vDp-r726gIViYjICh2-Dw8SEAQYASABEgI8k_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

NeweggBusiness - GIGABYTE B550I AORUS PRO AX AM4 AMD B550 Mini-ITX ...

Buy GIGABYTE B550I AORUS PRO AX AM4 AMD B550 Mini-ITX Motherboard with Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 1, WIFI 6, 2.5 GbE LAN, PCIe 4.0 with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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Is this a good board? Idrk how to tell

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Hey im looking to upgrade my cpu, what cpu do you reccomend in the 350 usd 500 aud price range

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please @ me with an answer

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@inner lodge intel core i7-10700k ($349.00) usd

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:26 AM

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is it good for gaming and vr?

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@low tartan

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:27 AM

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or you can go for an equivalent of 8 cores and 12 threads with the ryzen 7 3700x ($249.99) usd

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i can check real quick

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:27 AM

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and will it be a worth upgrade from my i5-9400F

quaint current Jul 31, 2020, 3:28 AM

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id wait for next gen if ur looking at upgrading 9400 is still decent

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:28 AM

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ok, but wont the next gen be expensive

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like more expensive then the i7-10700k

quaint current Jul 31, 2020, 3:28 AM

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not more expensive than current gen

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:28 AM

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oh, ok i probaly will wait then

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:29 AM

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yeah it will but overall the ryzen 7 3700x is better

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and if u wait for this gen of cpu will go down if you'll settle for it

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:30 AM

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so your saying i should get the ryzen 7 3700x instead of waiting?

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:30 AM

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you can wait or get the 3700x it's ur choice man i just gave u options

inner lodge Jul 31, 2020, 3:31 AM

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ok, thanks for your help, i appreciate it

digital kernel Jul 31, 2020, 3:31 AM

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3700x is pretty solid

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:32 AM

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no problem but like me im probably gonna wait for newer gpus from nvidia as they stopped making the 2000 series

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but cpu wise im going for a ryzen 9 3900xt

digital kernel Jul 31, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I thought they were going to stop making them, not that they did stop making them

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:33 AM

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they did stop since they're going to be making the 3000 series sooner or later

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i would've settled for a asus rog strix 2080ti but i'll wait

digital kernel Jul 31, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Where did you see that they fully stopped production?

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:37 AM

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some website it could've been false but im still waiting for a full statement from nvidia themselves

digital kernel Jul 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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It's likely that they're stopping the chip founderies soon to make room for the production of new chips. The actual cards will probably continue to be manufactured a bit longer, especially from third parties

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:40 AM

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yeah probably but i still wanna get my hands on a 2080ti if they're still around cuz they're good gpus and the price for it is gonna drop

digital kernel Jul 31, 2020, 3:41 AM

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They're still around

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They'll be around for years

low tartan Jul 31, 2020, 3:44 AM

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but im just gonna wait for the next gen honestly cuz it is right around the corner after all

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btw how long have u been surrounded by the whole pc community cuz u seem to know ur range of prices for parts and overall knowledge

daring root Jul 31, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Has anyone used the Asus B550-E motherboard?

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If so, is it any good?

neat estuary Jul 31, 2020, 11:29 AM

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@daring root it’s probably the best high end b550. Asus has a rep for being one of the best at the high end. I’m sure it will be excellent

undone heron Jul 31, 2020, 3:01 PM

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The ethernet port in my 10 year old gateway computer no longer works. Can anyone help me determine which specific NewEgg Network Interface Card will work to replace the Wi-Fi card that is currently in the computer? I prefer a hard-wired connection to WiFi. The model number is Gateway DX4860 UM10P and it has an Intel i3 2120 processor. I tried NewEgg customer support and she referred me to this site.

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@undone heron This should work my friend https://www.newegg.com/startech-st1000spex2/p/N82E16833114081?&quicklink=true

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 4:01 PM

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hey guys. looking for an answer on compatibility. MSI MEG Z490 ACE and the G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C19D-32GTZR

Specs for the mobo say it supports up to 4000, but this mobo is not in the compatability list on gskill website.

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Hey @undone heron. Here’s one that should work https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007MWYCG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MaejFbB2VQP44

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Usually should work anyways @faint quail

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@warped scroll agreed

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Okay, I figured but got nervous by the website... mobo specs say 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4000+ MHz

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See any problem running 2 sets of that ram on this mobo?

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2 sets of 2 x 16GB

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Shouldn’t be an issue

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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^

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Thanks guys! Appreciate it. I dive in about every 3-4 years when I need to buy and am rusty.

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Lol. Good luck with this build 👌

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Post your build when its finished i’d love to see it Nice

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Thanks! this is what was ordered:

i9-10900
MSI MEG ACE
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 64GB (4x16GB)
WD_Black SN750 2TB NVMe
MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2070 Super
Seasonic FOCUS GM-750, 750W 80+ Gold
NZXT H510 Elite

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Looks like some good choices... other than the case

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The case has baaaaad airflow. Your components are gonna get hot

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 4:22 PM

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hmm, recommendations?

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Well with the 10900 yes

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Meshify c is a good one

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:22 PM

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TD 500 mesh, meshify C

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Meshify c is at a pretty good price https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352084

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 4:24 PM

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TD 500 mesh is only a little bit more and has 3 included ARGB fans so...

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 4:25 PM

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There’s tradeoffs for more rgb cables to manage or no pre installed rgb but good static pressure fans

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I cancelled the H510 and went with an S2

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 5:02 PM

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S2 is a great choice especially if you want to steer towards custom loops

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 5:07 PM

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the PSU I ordered is on back order. any suggestions?

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yeah the s2 looked like it was a little of everything

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 5:09 PM

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yeah mostly every psu on newegg is backorder, but checking the product page shows if its back order or ready to ship

faint quail Jul 31, 2020, 5:09 PM

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sorry, any suggestions on a replacement unit that is good.

inland dust Jul 31, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@faint quail
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-
Technology-Computer-Modular-SST-ST75F-GS-V3/dp/B07K61BFCH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+750w&qid=1596216016&sr=8-4

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Oops

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https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Computer-Modular-SST-ST75F-GS-V3/dp/B07K61BFCH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+750w&qid=1596216016&sr=8-4

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Theres one in stock it’s a pretty good deal for a silverstone unit

warped scroll Jul 31, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Hey guys. Anybody know of any decent AM3+ CPUs? Under $25 maybe? FX-6100s or better are dang overpriced. Using it on an Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS motherboard. Link for it below. Pairing it with a GTX 960 2gb. Looking used of course. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LM_LX_PLUS/HelpDesk_CPU/

ASUS USA

M5A78L-M LX PLUS CPU Support | Motherboards | ASUS USA

sudden coral Aug 1, 2020, 12:02 AM

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📎 JPEG_20200731_190242.jpg

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Ummmm

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I5 7400

tacit crane Aug 1, 2020, 1:27 AM

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What would be better Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory or the DDR4-3200 CL16

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 1:43 AM

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3600

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bigger number = better for memory

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 1:45 AM

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@trim dust same effective latency between 3600cl18 and 3200cl16. The frequency matters more on Ryzen, but otherwise they would be the same.

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3200cl14 kit beats a 3600cl18 kit any day

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3200cl14 kit even beats a 3600cl16 stock kit ignoring IF

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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ah i must have heard paul incorrectly

quaint current Aug 1, 2020, 1:53 AM

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3600cl16 and 3200cl14 are basically on par tho

mild jackal Aug 1, 2020, 2:11 AM

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XMP bins? not really

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In terms of first word read latency - kinda close, ya

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Higher freq will always = more read/write bandwidth though

quaint current Aug 1, 2020, 2:12 AM

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well yea binning is going to be better for the 3200 cause thats nearly always good b die

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Ya

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Basically the same but usually better bin

mild jackal Aug 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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3200 cl14 is always better b-die than 3600 16 16 16 36

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 3:46 AM

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what’s a good full size atx mobo for ~120?

urban ferry Aug 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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b450-f

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from asus

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 4:09 AM

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is the 450 tomahawk max comparable

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Only 1 m.2 slot and worse audio chip

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 4:11 AM

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what is the m.2 used for

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Fast SSD

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 4:12 AM

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ah

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would it be fine with a crucial mx500

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or just go with b450-f

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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It'd be fine but why get a board with less features at the same price :p

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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yeah true

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i’ll do b450

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wait i don’t think that has wifi

hollow thorn Aug 1, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Neither does

trim dust Aug 1, 2020, 4:17 AM

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i don’t have access to ethernet so that might be problem

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hmmm

smoky geode Aug 1, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Hey guys!

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Uhm new build, $1200 got it all running and need to boot my OS

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It’s showing the “reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key pc” screen and no key works

tulip raft Aug 1, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Anyone know a good Micro ATX board for Z490 because my Z490-G from asus keeps failing on me

neat estuary Aug 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@smoky geode reboot, smash the delete key. In boot menu select ur usb device

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On many boards f12 will get you into the boot selection menu without going into bios. But I just use bios

slim zealot Aug 1, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Maybe take the key to dinner before smashing it though

naive pendant Aug 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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does the lenovo 510a have an itx mobo?

tacit hemlock Aug 1, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I need a mobo recommendation. I had a gigabyte a320-s2h matx board, and it was damaged. I sent it back, but the graphics card bracket pieces that you remove from my case cannot be put back on. I wanted to buy a new b450 but I also want to make sure the pcie slot lines up where the old one was so that I dont have any open spaces in the back.

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How can I know which one to get. Its a pretty budget build and I have a wifi adapter already so the board can be cheapish

wind karma Aug 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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whats up with RAM prices rn jeez

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(amazon.com)/dp/B0143UM4TC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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16gb 3200 mhz 49$ shipped

neat estuary Aug 2, 2020, 1:18 AM

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the cl rateing is prolly really high on it

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 4:43 AM

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bro legit

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im going crazy rn

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i tried 3 different z490 boards and different psu and different ssd and different graphics card

mild jackal Aug 2, 2020, 4:44 AM

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You can post links now

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 4:44 AM

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and i get a loud pitched coil whine only when my screens are off

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it makes no sense

mild jackal Aug 2, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Is the monitor / power brick making the high pitched whine?

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 4:45 AM

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no

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its coming from near the GPU

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but

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if i dont plug in my GPU

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and use onboard video

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and turn screen off

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sound is gone

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but i switched this graphics card 3x

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lol

charred venture Aug 2, 2020, 5:03 AM

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it might just be a problem with all gpus

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i live with mine :p

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 5:03 AM

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i think it's windows 10 driver issue or

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just rtx 2070 issue

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i didnt try another model

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like 1080

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Pretty sure it’s a windows issue

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Installing windows or in bios I turn screen off

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No sound

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In windows turn off my screens weird sounds

hollow thorn Aug 2, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Doesn't happen with my 2070 in windows.. hmm

vagrant mist Aug 2, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Same

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My 2070 doesn't coil whine at all

fossil sparrow Aug 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I'm looking at this MOBO

(newegg dot com) /asrock-b450-steel-legend/p/N82E16813157869?Item=N82E16813157869

Anyone have any experience on whether the BIOS has been updated to be 3000 series compatible? Saw someone in QA section ask and someone said it had been and saw the same on Amazon - but just trying to figure out if it's an anomaly or not.

warped scroll Aug 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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It’ll be 3000 series compatible

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It’s pretty hard to find a b450 that’s not 3000 series compatible these days

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Unless you get really old stock or something

fossil sparrow Aug 2, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Awesome news. Thanks. part picker had me panicking as I sold my old card last week. Appreciate it!

warped scroll Aug 2, 2020, 7:52 PM

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lol. No problem. Take care

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Will these go well together https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236451 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119152?Description=asus https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-9th-gen-intel-core-i9-9900k/p/N82E16819117957?Description=intel

CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2...

Buy CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model CMW32GX4M2A2666C16W with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded ™

ASUS Prime Z390-A LGA 1151 (300 Series) ATX Intel Motherboard - New...

Buy ASUS Prime Z390-A LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Newegg shopping upgraded ™

Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz (5.0 GHz...

Buy Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz (5.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I99900K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630 with fast shipping and top-rated customer service.Once you know, you Newegg!

warped scroll Aug 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I mean they'll work together just fine, if that's what you're asking

digital kernel Aug 2, 2020, 8:14 PM

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They'll work, they're just overly expensive

main pulsar Aug 2, 2020, 9:16 PM

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get 10600k smh

naive pendant Aug 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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wheres a place i can get those or similar items for cheaper?

empty eagle Aug 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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is the MSI MAG B550M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard good?

rich plank Aug 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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whats a good mobo to go with a ryzen 9 3900x

warm path Aug 3, 2020, 1:11 AM

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They'll work, they're just overly expensive
@digital kernel mhm, these are higher end stuff

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:13 AM

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They're expensive for higher end stuff

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Also, I wouldn't call 2666MHz ram "High end"

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That's like bare minimum (edit: thank you sassy)

main pulsar Aug 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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bear

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🧸

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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@naive pendant Here's a list with basically the same specs, but $250 cheaper. That's $250 more dollars that you can put into your GPU, so you'll get significantly higher performance
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQddQq

System Builder

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Will my m.2 drives still run in PCIe 4.0 mode if I use a PCIe riser cable to connect an MSI MEG GODLIKE to a Sapphire RX5700XT, running in PCIe 3.0 x16?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Okay, what are you doing here?

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What CPU and SSD are you using?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Ryzen 3900XT, Corsair M.2

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Which corsair m.2

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Corsair Force MP600

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Why is your GPU on a riser cable?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Better airflow, and to prevent sagging.

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This is all hypothetical, in my shopping cart

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Why is it pcie 3?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I don't think any cards currently run PCIe 4.0?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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rx5700xt can

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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oh

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Yup

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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oh damn, it says so right in the title

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my bad

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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So you have a vertical mount GPU?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I'm mixed up, this is my first build.

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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That's fine

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I would recommend not getting a pcie 4 ssd

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I'm just checking contigincies off of my list before I place my order.

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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It's not really that much of an improvement in real world use

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I would recommend getting the 3900x, a cheaper motherboard, and a gen3 m.2

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The expensive motherboards gain you next to nothing

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Ok, I got another question: will my TT RGB lights work at all when I boot into ubuntu?

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ahh, but I do like that godlike

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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are they on fans or on the PSU?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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you're probably right

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they're fans

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I'll check if they're supported

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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wait hecc i totally read that wrong

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Thermaltake Riing Plus?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Thanks Bob

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yeah!

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Those are supported

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If the godlike is for looks, go ahead.

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It's if you're looking for more performace that it becomes pointless

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:40 AM

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it's for future proofing, I'm telling myself

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LOL

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Yeah, no

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x570 has one year of life left

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The next batch of chips will be the last

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:40 AM

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so 4th gen will runon x570?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Yes

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Beyond that, no

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:41 AM

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so much good info in such a short amount of time here

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Just as a note, I'm not sure if the godlike RGB is supported. I think it is, but it isn't stated anywhere

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https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB
Here's the program you'll want to control it

GitLab

Projects · Adam Honse / OpenRGB

Open source RGB lighting control that doesn't depend on manufacturer software. Supports Windows and Linux. ASUS, ASRock, Corsair, G.Skill, Gigabyte, HyperX, MSI, Razer, ThermalTake, and more supported See the Wiki...

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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what do you mean TT Riing Pro is 'supported' supported by some ubuntu software? the kernel? the mobo program?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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The program I just linked 🙂

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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thanks

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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It might be in the repo, I'm not sure

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If not, it's pretty easy to build

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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right on, I'm sure I'll never get all the ins and outs until I have a chance to tinker

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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godlike is kinda memes tbh

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I'd rather just go threadripper/x299

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Yeah

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Not a bad board though, just $$$$$$$$$$$$

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:44 AM

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what about the lower clock rates on threadripper?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Not really a big deal

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It's mostly a question of whether you want single core or multi core

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Single core is good enough, multi core is kick butt

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:44 AM

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TR will still do fine single core

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On 3rd gen at least

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Yup

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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It's still the same chiplet arch/design

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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I have TR if you need any single core tests 😄

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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So they still put at least one chiplet in there with a high-bin single core

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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aha

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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I had forgotten how much the godlike was...

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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$$$

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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You might seriously consider a cheaper mobo and a 3950x

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Another big thing for TR is pcie lanes

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:45 AM

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^

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pcie goes zoooooom

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I currently use 44 pcie lanes

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Did you see the count on the TR pro?

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:46 AM

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128?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:46 AM

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the cores arent' all carved from a continuous part of wafer, they aren't neighbors from the foundry to the slicing?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Not as such

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That doesn't matter though

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And yeah, 128 lanes

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Very nice

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I mean I have 7 Pcie ssds and 2 gpus, I don't see much more pcie lanes needed lol

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Oh, believe me

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They can be needed

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I mean they can

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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yeah what for?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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8 GPUs

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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haha

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nice

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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True it is workstation

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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That's 128 lanes right there

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 AM

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my workflow doesn't scale much above 2 gpus

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:49 AM

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That sounds like a you problem 🤣

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:50 AM

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😛

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Would you use that for financial modeling or high speed trading?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Which one?

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I mean it would handle it, but you could probably get the same performance with a 3900x or 3950x

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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8 GPUs

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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oh no

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Oh that

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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trading is mostly cpu based

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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We use those for general computation. Usually it's training, but sometimes it's physical simulations or just raw number crunching

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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...it doesn't lend itself to parrallelization?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Basically whatever project people need to run

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parallelization is very hard to do well

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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technically the 128 pcie lanes could handle 16 gpus

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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32

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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because x8 4.0 would be enough for any current gpu

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true or even x4

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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You can run server GPUs in x4

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I think that's what we're doing

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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but can you split x4 4.0 into x8 3.0?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I'll check

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If you have bifurcation, I believe so

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:54 AM

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you guys like the 3950x better than the 3900xt>

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?

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:54 AM

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it's 4 more cores

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The xt series is really just a binned chip for better oc

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and not a great one at that

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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right on

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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ya its a stopgap chip for next gen

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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when is that coming, like next februrary?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Yeah

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The 3950x is here now

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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yeah i need a computer now

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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ryzen 4000 is like september/october so far

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTYKLZW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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nice to know 4th gen will be supported, i suppose i'll build with a plan to upgrade?

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graphics and cpu

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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If you build with the plan to upgrade, get a 3700x

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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that's good advice

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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It'll be maybe two months, so might as well

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 2:56 AM

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or just slap a 3300x in there and get a 4000 chip

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:57 AM

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I didn't know about 4th gen until tonight, thanks for reminding me to reconsider that

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I was thinking about upgrading in 2 years

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I don't think I'll upgrade for a few years

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:58 AM

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3300x is still unavailable, isn't it?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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I mean, just the CPU and GPU, maybe RAM, but the same mobo and everything else

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2 years

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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2 years you'll need a new mobo

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So might as well get a good CPU now

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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The 4000 series is the last amd cpu in this socket

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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need one? i'm not so sure

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Yes

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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You can't really split 4 lanes of 4.0 into 8 of 3.0 - even though they're the same bandwidth

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 AM

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The CPUs made in two years will be physically incapable of working with the godlike

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Unless you have some chip that can multiplex out that bandwidth

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:00 AM

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..but it two years the CPUs made next year will be cheaper, no?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Or just plain unavailable

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I wouldn't recommend getting the 4th gen parts in two years

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They'll be hard to find and obsolete

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I wonder how long amd will support trx40

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Until next gen I believe

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:01 AM

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probably. Thats what they did with x299

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:02 AM

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5th gen is rumored to have ddr5 and pcie5, and there's no way they can get that on the current sockets

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:02 AM

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True, well pcie 5 would be possible

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off the chipset

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but not optimal

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:03 AM

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They would need more pins I believe

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Anyway, I can't see AMD passing up the marketing potential of 5th gen, 5nm, ddr5, and pcie 5 all in the same launch

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Yeah lol

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:06 AM

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will TT lighting bracket on my Patriot Viper Steel DIMMs hinder their heat dissipation?

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DDR4-3600

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Why not just get RGB ram?

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:08 AM

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I like the Corsair DIMMs, but I don't know if I should mix Corsair's RGB ecosystem with TT's, it seems like a headache.

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Perhaps the MSI Mystic system will control the LED strips on the DIMMs

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Corsair DIMMs

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I know msi can control the trident z

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:10 AM

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are those Corsair? I was looking at Vengeance.

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:10 AM

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gskill

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:10 AM

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oh cool

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those are nice too

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:11 AM

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trident z should work with open rgb

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:12 AM

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is DDR 3600 the sweet spot or what?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Yup

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ddr4 3600, cl16

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:13 AM

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nice

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Trident Z Neo is especially for AMD?

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:16 AM

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"optmized"

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:16 AM

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...with no noticeable effect

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?

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:17 AM

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not sure

slate crest Aug 3, 2020, 3:19 AM

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thanks for all the answers guys

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I should have come here sooner. I assume I can ask more questions here tomorrow evening?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Yup

regal tendon Aug 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Nope, you've asked your allotted questions

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lol jk ❤️

tranquil wolf Aug 3, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Decided to run MemTest86 bc system keeps crashing while OCing, 65% into pass 1 so far and errors detected lol

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:24 AM

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@digital kernel why would my pc keep crashing and become unstable when I "oc" my 3600 ram at anything above 3000?

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Mobo bios are up to date

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Are you changing the timings/voltage?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:25 AM

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No

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How should I do that?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Might try increasing the voltage a bit

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I think 1.35 should work

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Ok

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What setting is that in my bios?

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It's Asus tuf bios

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:27 AM

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No clue

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Google it

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:28 AM

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📎 20200802_222746.jpg

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Are any of these it?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:29 AM

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DRAM Voltage

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:30 AM

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It's at 1.35

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At auto

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Hmm

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Taking it off auto just in case

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Nope didn't work

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Dunno

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What ram exactly?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Gskill ripjaws

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The like 80 dollar stuff

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16gbs

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Could it be fclk frequency?

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Nevermind

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Does it need more voltage?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I wouldn't try that yet

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Try increasing the timing a bit

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Ok

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I put voltage at 1.4 and it just ran at 3133

nimble trench Aug 3, 2020, 5:42 AM

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is there any performance compromise if i do micro ATX instead of full on ATX?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:43 AM

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@digital kernel got in the dram timing control, what do I change here?

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📎 20200802_224319.jpg

deep vigil Aug 3, 2020, 5:45 AM

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wait what kit of ram?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I can't see the filed names

deep vigil Aug 3, 2020, 5:45 AM

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and what is the rated speeds

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and timmings

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Gskill ripjaws 3600

deep vigil Aug 3, 2020, 5:46 AM

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huh did he just do xmp?

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or is he manually ocing?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:46 AM

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It crashes if I xmp

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If I go above 3000

deep vigil Aug 3, 2020, 5:47 AM

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its a faulty kit

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rma

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it

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:47 AM

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But it just went to 3133 at1.4 volts

deep vigil Aug 3, 2020, 5:47 AM

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doesn't matter its rated for 3600 at 1.35 16 19 19 39

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:48 AM

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📎 20200802_224735.jpg

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Are those set to 15 or 16?

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I think we might have just found the issue

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Your timings are way too fast

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@eternal helm The first five fields from the top should be set to 16, 19, 19, 19, 39 in that order

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Ok

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Left or right collum?

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Cha or chb?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Both columns. I'm not entirely sure about those last two, but this will be a first shot

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Ok I'll try that

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📎 20200802_230053.jpg

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So like this?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Yeah

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Trying it

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Nope

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Didnt work

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That's at 1.35 volts

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Okay

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Try 16 19 19 39 39

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Ok

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Can you confirm that the changes took effect?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:03 AM

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What do you mean?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:03 AM

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What do the setting read right now?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:04 AM

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16 19 19 19 39

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Okay

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Try 16 19 19 39 39

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:05 AM

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It won't let me change that last 19 to a 39

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It stops at 27

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Okay

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Should I try 27?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Nah. I'm gonna go with it's a defective set

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Ok

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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How long ago did you get it?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I think just over 30 days

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Sadly

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Where from?

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Wegg

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Contact them for an RMA, you might also try contacting gskill

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Ok

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Can I tho since it's over 30 days?

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Maybe

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Would it fall under warranty?

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It's got a lifetime warranty

digital kernel Aug 3, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Hopefully

eternal helm Aug 3, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Thanks for the help anyways

tranquil wolf Aug 3, 2020, 7:00 PM

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so last night i wound up w/ 30 errors in Memtest so i tested each of my 8GB RAM sticks individually, all came back clean thru MemTest so I tested each slot w/ one stick, A1 only one tossing errors. I messaged MSI, they want me to try a diff CPU, diff GPU, diff PSU, test it all outside of the case. surprised they did not ask me to just buy a new mobo and test it too

versed raven Aug 3, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I have this memory but I can

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can't find it anymore. GeIL SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

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I want to buy 2 more. do I need to use the same brand?

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what would you suggest?

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going on...Motherboard
MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3.2 DDR4 HDMI WiFi Micro-ATX Motherboard (B450M Bazooka MAX WiFi)

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 7:16 PM

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you dont need to use the same ram but its greatly preferred bc less chance of errors

versed raven Aug 3, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ok, thanks

royal wolf Aug 3, 2020, 9:54 PM

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because of the new Z490 getting a Z390 is very difficult

quaint current Aug 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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find a used one on ebay or hws

mild jackal Aug 3, 2020, 9:59 PM

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You can find z390 new on amazon for decent prices - (not gouged)

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Often discounted board sold open box

topaz reef Aug 3, 2020, 11:21 PM

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where the H12 boards at newegg, its been 3 days!

dusty jolt Aug 4, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Looking to upgrade ram in a Lenovo ThinkPad E560 with an i5 to 16 gig ddrl3 1866 from 8 gigs ddrl 1600. Will I get 1866 or will it only run at 1600?

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also looking at swapping HD to SSD

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Or am I wasting my money even upgrading at all?

trim dust Aug 4, 2020, 1:20 AM

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i’m upgrading from a lenovo to a desktop

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if you don’t need the portability of a laptop then sell it and build one

dusty jolt Aug 4, 2020, 2:06 AM

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I have a Desk top. 2600X 16G 3200 and an old vega 56. Got lap top for 50.00 dollars . My employers IT department had a fire sale on old laptops. figure I couldn't go wrong with a 150.00 dollar up grade. Move HD to CD bay and install a 250G ssd I already have pluss add some good ram.

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I believe it has a 6th gen i5 A 6200U?

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it actually a 115.00 upgrade

meager pecan Aug 4, 2020, 2:24 AM

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does anybody know if HP still prevents you from using their RAM in other PCs

topaz reef Aug 4, 2020, 2:33 AM

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no its fine

sharp cairn Aug 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Hey everybody

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I picked up https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Item=N82E16820232880

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As well as a Ryzen 5 3600X and an AORUS Motherboard

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https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568?Item=N82E16819113568

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082?Item=N82E16813145082

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) AM4 ATX AMD Motherboard - N...

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I plan on selling the 3600x for a 3800x (Ryzen 7) would I need different RAM?

quaint current Aug 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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no you should be good

gritty patio Aug 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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You'll be fine why you changing? @sharp cairn

sharp cairn Aug 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Just to be able to handle Valhalla.

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I got store credit refund and a return label from Newegg

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:)

gritty patio Aug 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Nice

long geyser Aug 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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unless you have a 2080Ti doubt you'll see much of any difference

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Technical question regarding Memory Selection. Can I please consult with a RAM memory expert for advice on selection of RAM for the Motherboard ASRock B550 PRO4 AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-pro4/p/N82E16813157941?Item=N82E16813157941 I need to buy 128 GB total RAM but I am getting confused about the single rank / dual rank / quad rank requirements and benefits. Here is the manual link: htt ps://download.asrock.com/Manual/B550%20Pro4.pdf See pages 5 & 21 for memory details. Please help me select a high end and low end 128 GB kit for this motherboard and help me understand the difference. Thank you.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@lusty moon I'm looking. What will you be using the PC for?

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@lusty moon?

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You there buddy?

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Also, what CPU will you be using?

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As for quad rank, your motherboard doesn't support it, so that part is easy to resolve

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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hi @digital kernel Ryzen 3900x, storage mining.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Storage mining?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Filecoin

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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How does it work

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I understand lower cl on the ram can improve performance, but not sure about the single rank versus dual rank benefits. Storage mining is kind of cryptocurrency mining where you provide storage resourses to the network in exchange for earning a fee in the form of cryptocurrency. Filecoin will be an open markeplace for buying and selling cloud based storage. Closely related and using IPFS.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:26 PM

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So the main thing that you need to worry about is the storage space available?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Suffice it to say I need good ram performance.

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You can add all the storage you want, more and fast is better, but the ram is very important in this application.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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CPU and RAM are for providing verification that your stored data is correct?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Yes. "sealing" 32 gb chunks.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Okay

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Minimum required ram is 128 GB

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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So essentially you'll need to be performing cryptographic hashes on 32GB chunks of data

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Yes.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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There is the option to use swap though, isn't there?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Yes I am sure swap can play a role.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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In that case, will it be strictly necessary to have that much ram?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I thought the same as you are now. But the 128 GB is a requirement. It will sync the chain but will not mine without minimum 128 GB of RAM

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I just don't want to overpay for super adequacy.

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Odd. Usually, the processes can't tell whether they're using swap

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Anyhoo...

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I'll asume this is running on Linux?

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Debian 64 "buster"

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Okay

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It seems to me that the main issue at hand will be your storage array

lusty moon Aug 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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back soon, I have to jump on a conference call. Let me know if you have any specific suggestions on RAM. Thanks!

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Okay

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Do you need ECC?

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So for non ECC, we;ve got the option of 3200CL16 and 3600CL18

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Honestly, you might be better off with a server board

naive pendant Aug 4, 2020, 7:47 PM

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will the 4th gen version of the 3950x come out with the other 4th gen ryzen cpus or do i have to wait longer

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Unknown

grand burrow Aug 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I have 2 8GB Sticks of RAM. Is it worth getting 2 more?

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 8:33 PM

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If you only game, probably not. If you do any sort of content creation, it might be

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 8:46 PM

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@lusty moon its not really a "new" type. You might want to look up some of the benchmarking that has been done on Sia coin.

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IF it behaves like siacoin, ecc should not be needed @digital kernel

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Cool, that's a relief

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ECC is hard to find rn

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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if by hard, you mean silly expensive, yes :)

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yeah

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On the bright side, server PSUs are still nice and cheap

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30 bucks for a platinum grade 1200W PSU? Yes please 🙂

trim dust Aug 4, 2020, 9:02 PM

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my mobo is out of stock

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when do they usually come back in

digital kernel Aug 4, 2020, 9:04 PM

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In todays world...

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Who knows

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Might be faster to pick a different motherboard

limber spire Aug 4, 2020, 9:08 PM

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errant summit Aug 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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hello, im trying to upgrade my CPU, im looking to buy the ryzen 7 3700x but i want to know if itll be complatible with my computer, my mobo is the b360m xtreme, any suggestions?

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@errant summit look up the cpu support table on the manufacturers website

neat estuary Aug 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

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um... big no

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or//// wth.. idk.. could it be possible amd supports for so long?

ancient plaza Aug 4, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Hey, i was wondering if this motherboard would already be updated to the newest bios upon purchase.

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ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

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I can't send the link but I am trying to see if it will work with my ryzen 3 3200g straight out of the box

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 11:38 PM

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it needs bios P3.10

ancient plaza Aug 4, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Would that be pre-installed during purchase or would I have to do it myself?

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 11:39 PM

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which was released

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depends on the age of the stock

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as in, IF the seller has had it on a shelf since around that time.

ancient plaza Aug 4, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Oh ok thank you!

gritty meadow Aug 4, 2020, 11:41 PM

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your best bet is to have a chat with the store you are buying from

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you simply ask them what bios version is on the board.

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IF what they say turns out to be wrong. Well, you have it in writing. Which helps your RMA go that much faster.

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because it would be their mistake then.

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I hope that answers it for you @ancient plaza

tacit hemlock Aug 5, 2020, 12:19 AM

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And he's gone lol

eternal helm Aug 5, 2020, 12:20 AM

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What slots do you install ram in usually?

errant summit Aug 5, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@gritty meadow cant find my cpu on any support table smh

shadow musk Aug 5, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@eternal helm (2 & 4)

eternal helm Aug 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Ok

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Was wondering since my x570 has slots 1 and 3 open out of the box lol

tacit hemlock Aug 5, 2020, 12:26 AM

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readthemanual

eternal helm Aug 5, 2020, 12:38 AM

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no

dry horizon Aug 5, 2020, 1:34 AM

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sitting here looking at b550 vs x570 and not really finding anything that I would want that the b550 doesn't have vs. the x570

gritty meadow Aug 5, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@errant summit then that is the answer to your question.

dry horizon Aug 5, 2020, 1:42 AM

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hmm, newegg doesn't have the aorus b55m elite listed. 😦

reef sphinx Aug 5, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Is ryzen 5 3600 good for a begging pc ?

dry horizon Aug 5, 2020, 3:32 AM

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beginning?

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:32 AM

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B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) looking for a tower that will fit this, a ryzen 7 3800x and has usbs on the front. Modern preferred

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$50-120

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:33 AM

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would suggest 3700x, unless you already own the 3800x

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Okay

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Valhalla comes with both

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:34 AM

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also, most mATX towers will fit those parts

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:34 AM

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I'm thinking about this

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:35 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007583 601310881

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any of these cases will work

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wait

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oops, thats not an mATX board

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:35 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-dark-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352072?Item=N82E16811352072&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FY6Crxr%2Ffractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tg&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-l6cGyde.yfhfzHXpfotLgg

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:36 AM

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oh yeah, thats a good case

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Will this fit as well as a 970 Strix? Upgrading to 2060

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:36 AM

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which 2060?

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Making the switch from an i5-3570k

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:37 AM

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oh nice

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:37 AM

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EVGA or Asus/asustek

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:37 AM

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personally, if this is literally just for gaming, i would suggest the 3600 and a 2070s

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better performance

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or the 10600k is also an option, but that costs a bit more

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unless you are doing something specific that you know would benefit from having more cores

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:39 AM

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3800x is what I plan on getting. Probably a little of that AMV anime music video stuff if I ever get around to it

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 AM

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3800x might be unnecessary

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I want a PC I won't have to upgrade for 5 years

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Naw threadripper is unnecessary

digital kernel Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 AM

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3600 will last five years

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 AM

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once again, depends on what your using this pc for

digital kernel Aug 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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^

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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hell, in some cases a 3300x will last you 5 years

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Mhm. I agree with that. You're just trying to help out

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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thats why im here

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also why ive sent the 11th most messages in this discord server

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lol

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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I appreciate it.

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I'm going to upgrade to a future RDNA2

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So i want to be able to handle it

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:42 AM

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ahh, so youre looking at them new amd cards

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yeah, as far as that goes, core counts wont help you

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Need the PSU to handle the future card

digital kernel Aug 5, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Shouldn't be an issue

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Going to upgrade a 500 to a ,750

digital kernel Aug 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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They'll get more efficient as they get more powerful, so 750 should me more than enough

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Yup yup

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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but, if youre planning on waiting for the new AMD cards, you may as well wait for the new AMD cpus

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Here's what i have

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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which are slated to release very soon

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the only useful things in your build rn are possibly the PSU and case

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the rest of it needs to go

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ok, maybe the HDD

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:44 AM

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The one I'm building is here

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:44 AM

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wdym

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I'll dm

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:48 AM

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so is that what you have purchased right now?

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feel free to just put links here

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so what do you own right now

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like, what do you have in your possession

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im a bit confused

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Right now I'm on a POS

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Intel i5 3570k

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2 4GB sticks of Corsair ram

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Corsair 400r tower

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The towers nice it's just old and I want an update.

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:50 AM

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ahh, i see

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:50 AM

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An old AOC monitor, HDDs no SSD.

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:51 AM

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specifically, what HDD and PSU

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thats all you can really recover

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Western digital black

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:51 AM

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how big?

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if its less than 500 its not worth reusing

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new hdds are so cheap nowadays

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Everything I need is on folders or the cloud

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USBS

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Mine's 1 terabyte HDD

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:52 AM

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oh, ok then

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Is another driving there for boot purposes I think

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Drive in there

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:52 AM

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and whats the psu?

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:52 AM

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500wb Corsair

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:52 AM

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if its a decent one you can reuse it

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model number?

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Not sure

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:53 AM

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eh, its probably not worth reusing

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most 500w psus are not that good

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Nope it's bronze too

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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not because theyre 500w, but because psus in that wattage range are usually built like crap

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Corsair CX Series 500 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Non-Modular Power Supply (CP-9020047-US)

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Like I said it's 5 to 8 years old

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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oh goodness

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that one especially is trash

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Just taking her out of the Intel, bringing her into the AMD

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:55 AM

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CX green is makeshift bomb material lmao

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I have a challenge for you

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:56 AM

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ok

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:57 AM

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G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:57 AM

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yes

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good ram

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:57 AM

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With the Aorus motherboard and a 3800x

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:57 AM

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very good ram

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 3:57 AM

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3800x is meh

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3700x usually better value

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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and for mostly gaming, 3600

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Why though?

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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best value

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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I fool around in Photoshop

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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because there is no noticable perf difference

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 AM

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The bigger fan though right or is it the same size

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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i think they come with the same cooler

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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And I'll get the new processor in a year or two

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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cant remember, usually people who pay for the 3800x also get a different cooler

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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is the stock cooler for 3700x good

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is it worth to upgrade

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:00 AM

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@main pulsar 3700x3800x both get prism iirc

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:00 AM

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See if you can build me a tower for under $2,000 with a 3800 x in it

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I'd be eternally grateful

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:01 AM

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you still havent told me why you think you need a 3800x

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i am still not sure what youre using this pc for

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so it makes it hard to mock up a build

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i cant make you a list, because i dont know what you need

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Everything, gaming, Photoshop, email, Microsoft word, I wanted to be able to be used for everything except for like AutoCAD

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:01 AM

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yes

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Light video editing

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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all single threaded applications

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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if its heavy stuff

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then u should go 3900x but its not

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I tend to leave all that stuff open at once to

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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so i think 3700x would be good

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the 3800x

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is not really worth it

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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you would be better off putting the budget towards the other things

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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get either a 3700x or a 3900x

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i suggest 3700x

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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3600 saves you some money for you to get a better gpu

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12 threads is quite a bit

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3700x is still a good choice tho

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but 3800x? nah

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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^yea^

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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but, also keep in mind what happening around october/november

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4000 series AMD cpus

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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4th gen

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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new NVIDIA GPUs

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might as well just wait around for the new product launches

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I'm gonna wait until the next gen and have been out a few months or a year

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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why

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Just for firmware/updates/etc

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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you want a build to last like 5 years tho

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thats not 5 years

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thats like 1

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Kinda like waiting to DL dlc for a game

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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nope

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not really the same

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Hmm interesting

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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you have 2k USD

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spending it all now, just to replace the parts you just paid a ton for

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is a waste of money

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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The b450 will support it?

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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why b450? i was gonna suggest a b550 anyway

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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it will

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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I already have it purchased

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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but it will be a hassle

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try to return it

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if u can

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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remember when i asked you what you already had purchased?

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you see

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THIS is why

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I posted the mobo I had purchased. It's not installed but it is purchased. Currently in on an old ASUS DDR 3

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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you never told me you had purchased it

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even tho i asked multiple times

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Oh my mistake.

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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anyway, see if you can just return it

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theres no reason to be limited by a board you have already purchased

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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B550s are pretty much out of stock no?

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:10 AM

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not really

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most are backordered, with planned shipping dates

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Is the ryzen4 supposed to cost a little extra

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Than the 3600x

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:12 AM

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we dont know yet

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all we know is the average IPC gains are super impressive

digital kernel Aug 5, 2020, 4:12 AM

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It probably will, but price to performance will likely be better

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhvbmg

System Builder

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heres a kickass gaming pc

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slap in your 1tb hdd and your set for 5 years

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no need to even spend 2k

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in 3 months, i can make you another list, using 4th gen ryzen instead

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it will perform even better at a similar price point

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oh, and a 3080 instead of a 2080 super

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you have extra budget for a new keyboard and mouse

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and a 1440p 144hz monitor Poggers

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Don't have the money for that 3080.

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2060super is what I was thinking about until rdna2.

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I was looking at atx

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:20 AM

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we dont know what the 3080 will cost yet

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dont plan on buying a gpu, just to replace it on 6 months

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:21 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-master/p/N82E16813145217?item=N82E16813145217&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-motherboards - amd-_-gigabyte-_-13145217&source=region

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:21 AM

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motherboard sizes dont mean anything

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Oh jeez that's pricy I clicked the wrong one

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:22 AM

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lol

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i was wondering

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did you look at the pcpp list i made?

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give it a good look through

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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It's nice but the PSU I would like to be 750

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And I haven't heard of

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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doesnt need to be

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Team MP34 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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560w is more than enough

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Mp34 good

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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thats one of the best price/perf ssds

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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It's an equivalent to 970evo tbh

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yeah, basically

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I leave my PC on A LOT. 970 is Samsung right

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:25 AM

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In perf and claimed reliability

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Ye

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I know it doesn't need to be. But I'd like it to be 750w and ATX. I like more peripherals. I'll keep the m.2 in mind

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:27 AM

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apparently, you dont know

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:27 AM

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A 3950x+2080ti draws close to 550w to put into perspective

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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if you really knew, you wouldnt be asking for a 750w psu

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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should i get 650 watts

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for my pc

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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motherboard form factor does not dictate the number of peripherals

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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The ONLY consumer setup today that needs 750w is OCed 10900k+2080ti

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:28 AM

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ryzen 7 4th gen

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and big navi flagship or 3080

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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we dont know yet

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its a possibility, but we wont know at all until we get actual power consumption data

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ok

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so what about

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3700x

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and 5700xt

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Isn't it better to run more power at half capacity than low power at full capacity

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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650w would be fine, 550w would be fine

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and that is irrelevant @sharp cairn

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ye but the curve really goes at around 80% iirc

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:30 AM

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that has to do with efficiency

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:30 AM

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And that's just a few % of efficiency lost anyways

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:30 AM

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the 560w psu i picked is platnum rated

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better efficiency than any 750w psu in the same price range

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regardless of load

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mr1111, why tf arent we techie yet smh

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lol

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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do you know any 650 watts gold or higher fully modular psu

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Minimum 650 W or greater system power supply according to Nvidia. But that's just for that card . That's where I'm confused.

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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So, 3700x draws 105w tdp, 5700xt 225w btw @naive pendant

naive pendant Aug 5, 2020, 4:31 AM

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thats good

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and doesn't fry my pc

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Sassy I don't read manuals or know server stuff or know specifics

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But you know server stuff

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So idk why you no techie

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:32 AM

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i knew you didnt read manuals lmao

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as for the minimum psu specs, it has to do with the fact that nvidia doesnt know what cpu your gonna be pairing the gpu with

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so they make the worst case scenario assumption

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the 3600 draws 82w peak

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Tdp on AMD is like a limit for stock

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:34 AM

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82w peak was with PBO2

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so, not really stock

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:35 AM

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There are built in limits, but I don't memorize em

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:35 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_k9Q-VnHF0

YouTube

Joshua Benjamin

Luigi Says Spaghetti

he said it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWy2J1OkN4

▶ Play video

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spaghetti

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I just go off tdp

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Easier

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:35 AM

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yeah, but intel

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cough cough

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125w tdp my ass

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peak is like 250 lmao

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Lol let's draw 300w boost

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Sounds fun right

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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a 10900k needs more than sufficient wattage

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-steel-legend/p/N82E16813157940?item=N82E16813157940&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157940&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwjqT5BRAPEiwAJlBuBbgUKVYbRPjCw2nkxrZcvlTVoe-LvxWos-WUmHa4vLgn9BxSxgrd-RoCv74QAvD_BwE

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:37 AM

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that psus gotta be freakin S teir

sharp cairn Aug 5, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I'm probably getting this board

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:37 AM

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155$ overpriced

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A b550 board is only good <130$ imo

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:38 AM

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i already know what board you should get, assuming you are getting the 3600

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:38 AM

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b 4 5 0 d s 3 h

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:38 AM

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the 3700x is an extra 100 dollars, plus the cost of a board with better VRMs

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yeeeeeeeee

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well, the b550 ds3h

hollow thorn Aug 5, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Anyways Sassy you should apply for techie or whatever

main pulsar Aug 5, 2020, 4:38 AM

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basically same price

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wdym apply