#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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supple monolith
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Ram looks sketchy

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Wait no

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I picked high latency ram, hold on

reef sphinx
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When will ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard
will be instock ??

main pulsar
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we have no idea

reef sphinx
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Is it going to be soon ?

main pulsar
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couldnt tell ya

supple monolith
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we have no idea

reef sphinx
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Is there like people from newegg that answer to people question?

supple monolith
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You can try DMing @ NeweggService but no guarantees

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We're just random people who like tech, not newegg employees 🙂

reef sphinx
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Ok

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Where can I ask about general questions?

main pulsar
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anywhere

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build-chat is a good place to start

reef sphinx
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K

naive pendant
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So my motherboard has a WiFi connector thing but I can’t swap cases with it what should I do?

naive pendant
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I'm replacing an AMD with another one, Do i need to do specific things before i do that?

upbeat lichen
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it depends what you have now, what motherboard you're on, and what you're upgrading to

naive pendant
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Mind helping me out?

upbeat lichen
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if i know what you're working with and what you want to upgrade to, i definitely can

naive pendant
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My CPU is a AMD Ryzen 3 2300X Quad-Core Processor with 3.50Hz
Gigabyte Tech Motherboard is GA-A320M-S2H (I believe)

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This is pre built by the way

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And the AMD i got is

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AMD RYZEN 7 3700X 8-Core 3.6 GHz

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I also got a new SSD

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I am also building my own PC so i can also wait and not use it if it's recommended

upbeat lichen
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you might need to update the BIOS on the motherboard, but as long as it has a BIOS version that supports the 3000 series chips, the 3700x will just drop in and work

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it looks like, for that specific board, any BIOS version of F40 and newer, will work

naive pendant
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Alright thanks

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I may or may not realized that the parts i already probably aren't even half of what was spent

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already had*

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But pre built for sure

quiet brook
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should i get a ryzen 5 or 7? Build is 2070 16GB RAM 2 monitors 1tb ssd

upbeat lichen
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what are you gonna do with the system?

quiet brook
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gaming and work

upbeat lichen
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the r5 3600 is usually a solid all around option

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and is a solid bang for the buck

quiet brook
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ok

upbeat lichen
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if you need the extra cores/threads though, something like the r7 3700x or something might be worth looking at

quiet brook
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ok

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thanks

lethal glacier
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Is this good for a 7 3700x and 2070 super?

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Also if you know what did this used to sell for before prices went up so much

steel ferry
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Yes that's fine
But I would personally go for an x570 or a b550

lethal glacier
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If you have one around that price I’m open to see what there is lol

upbeat lichen
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and it's actually in stock

raw owl
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hey guys, idk anything about computers, but i heard there might be a problem with a mobo im ordering that it might need a BIOS update. does newegg update the mobos before sending them out or would i have to do that?

pure wolf
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just go to manufacters site and is usually easy to do

raw owl
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its a pretty old mobo and a decently new cpu, i heard i might have to get a booter pack or somethin?

waxen current
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Newegg got the 3800x for $299... Is it better than the 10600k for $289?

digital kernel
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Depends

waxen current
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I saw some benchmarks for gaming but they were overclocked... They did pretty close with the 10600k going a little faster

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I dont plan to overclock right now because i dont have a cpu cooler... I might go with the amd because it comes with one

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And then when i overclock it, ill get a better cooler

digital kernel
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It's really close lately

hollow thorn
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@waxen current badically, 10600k if you want to have fun overclocking or only gaming

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3800x if you both game and say video edit

digital kernel
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Is there still that free AC deal with the 3800x?

waxen current
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Yes

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Im buying it tomorrow... So ill be back here before that

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Lol

compact sun
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anyone use xpg memory?

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how it hold up to gskill, corsair and patriot?

naive pendant
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someone gave me i think a good one already but seein if anyone else has any better ideas

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budget is 70-80$

warped scroll
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I believe @hollow thorn linked you one in #general-chat @naive pendant

hollow thorn
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yes

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good one already

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he wants moar

naive pendant
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bruh\

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did u read my thing

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i legit said someone gave me goodone already but seein if anyone got a better idea

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its better safe than sorry

warped scroll
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BR is pretty good

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I mean for 207 system a little on the lower end

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but with pricing and stuff rn BR ver good

velvet sphinx
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got a question, I have a pair of kingston kvr1066d3n7k2/4g memory. I need to know if this memory is ddr3L or not. I know it says 1.5V and researching said that meant ddr3L. But I'm not sure. can someone just tell me if they are ddr3L or not pls. thx

warped scroll
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No, that's desktop DDR3. DDR3L is mobile/laptop memory. That only works in desktop

velvet sphinx
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I had a feeling, thx

quiet brook
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if a mobo says dual channel for ram, do i have to put 2 sticks of ram or can i put one?

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ping me with an answer please

hollow thorn
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can do either

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or 4 sticks if its got 4 slots

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just means it works better with 2 sticks

quiet brook
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Oh

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Ok

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Thanks

peak sail
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in short one set of dual channel reads while the 2nd set writes

quiet brook
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ok

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can this ram (Crucial Ballistix Gaming 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 CL16) go in this MOBO (Gigabyte B450M DS3H AMD AM4 mATX Motherboard)?

quaint current
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yes

peak sail
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but why not use 3200mhz?

quiet brook
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expensive

peak sail
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I built that into a B350 prime with a 1500X for cheap

quiet brook
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yes
Thanks

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I built that into a B350 prime with a 1500X for cheap
If you have a link for good $65 3200mhz ram please send

peak sail
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there ios over a do0zen on sale

devout mothBOT
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quaint current
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L

quiet brook
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Wow

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I hate mee6

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You son of a

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@Gara Osio "The Lion of Talus"#2097 Thank you.

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Wait what

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@peak sail

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Thank you

quaint current
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yeah

quiet brook
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Alright

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Thank you guys

topaz reef
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Anyone know the release date for supermicro rome dp boards?

merry prawn
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Should I go with regular trident Z or trident Z Neo for my Ryzen build, they’re the same speed and cas latency

warped scroll
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Whichever you like better in terms of looks and price I guess @merry prawn

merry prawn
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I do like the regular for looks, though they say the Neo is “optimized” for ryzen

hollow thorn
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Marketing

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Go for 3600mhz cl16 kits

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Neo was cheaper at that speed and latency for me

merry prawn
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Yeah Neo is a little cheaper rn too with the same specs

topaz reef
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do they use the same memory chips tho?

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Ive heard from quite a few people hynix memory wont hit xmp speeds unless its on the qvl

hollow thorn
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Depends on stick lmao

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My hynix djr meets xmp without being on qvl

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They are supposed to be able to hit xmp

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Hynix or Samsung

topaz reef
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supposed to but not guaranteed

hollow thorn
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Or micron

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Nothing is guaranteed

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Even the best b die bin could have defective sticks

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There has been dark pros that fail at their job, and some that OC like crazy

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Can't decide just due to the manufacturer of the die

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Badly binned Samsung die can't beat well binned Hynix die

topaz reef
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as long as they are buying marked chips that would be a qc issue id think

hollow thorn
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Yes meeting xmp is a qc thing

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That's why I wouldn't worry about it

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If it's defective, rma

topaz reef
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corsair used unmarked chips for years and it was a true gamble

hollow thorn
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Corsair still has a bad reputation with their die

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Today

topaz reef
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im trying to decide which sticks to get for my servers

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3200 isnt cheap and i can get 2666 for half the price

hollow thorn
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What platform

topaz reef
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its like a 45% performance gain from the slides i saw

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epyc rome

hollow thorn
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Oh then you should get 3200cl16 kits at least

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Not sure on the server end but consumer end of the same architecture, it benefits from faster memory

topaz reef
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the 32gb 3200 sticks are like $250 vs 32gb 2666 for $85 from a friend

hollow thorn
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Really? Ecc sticks?

topaz reef
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yeah

hollow thorn
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Ah

topaz reef
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dual rank

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im still waiting on the boards to get released so i have some time

hollow thorn
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Non ecc sticks are like 110$ for a stick of 32gb 3600cl18

topaz reef
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milan operates at 2666 max where as rome is 3200

hollow thorn
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But I'm not familiar with the server market with ecc ram

topaz reef
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so theres tons of last gen sticks on the market

odd remnant
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Hey guys i had a question about a motherboard if anyone can tell

hollow thorn
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yes

potent verge
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Quick question about memory for someone who can answer it I built my first pc about a month ago and was looking around the bios today and noticed my memory was at 2133 mhz for some reason when (its supposed to be 3200) so I changed it, I was wondering if that was a common occurrence or just something weird that happened cause I haven't touched the bios besides just now and when I first booted up my pc

hollow thorn
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Default for most ddr4 sticks is 2133

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that's the jdec default

potent verge
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Ok thanks

quaint current
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yeah just turn on xmp/docp

swift wadi
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What's best x570 motherboard for around 200 bucks?

hollow thorn
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X570-plus wifi

swift wadi
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Asus?

hollow thorn
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yes

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X570 Tomahawk is not out yet at 200$, but that when that comes out

swift wadi
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Going cheaper, 3600 appears to be decent

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I just think my current i7 7700k at 4.9 will be faster? On the fence

hollow thorn
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They'll prob be about the same in game

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but 3600 with more cores and threads

swift wadi
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And 65 watt, don't know about overall thermal tho, my i7 is pretty hot

hollow thorn
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Intel and AMD TDP differs

swift wadi
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yeah, i think I just want 4 core but highest clocks, maybe stay intel? been 3 years since I built my 7700 machine

hollow thorn
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Higher clocks doesn't mean everything

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iPC gains too

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that's why a FX chip running 5ghz can't beat a 3600 running like 4ghz

swift wadi
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true

mild jackal
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IPC on intel is really similar between 6th-10th gen

hollow thorn
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(talking intel to amd)

warm fulcrum
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is it worth getting a 3800x or should I save a few bucks ands go with a 3700x

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?

charred venture
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not for gaming

warm fulcrum
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oh ok

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hmmmm

hollow thorn
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3800x bad

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3700x good

swift wadi
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Man 3600 dropped to 169

topaz reef
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3600 is a great value

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3100/3300 finally getting restocked

ionic hamlet
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I'm going for a Ryzen 5 3600 when I do my build.

mild jackal
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3600 or 3900x for best value

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I'd rather take a 10600k vs 3700/3800x

hollow thorn
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3950x good value for hedt but not quite hedt

mild jackal
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Eh, 16 cores for $700 and only 2 channel mem, 24 pcie lanes

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If you need hedt features, buy an hedt board

ashen thorn
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What motherboard would anybody recommend for a high end streaming and video editing pc build?

supple monolith
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What socket/CPU?

charred venture
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x570 or z490

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or x399

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i forget the intel one

tacit hemlock
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Those aren't sockets tho lol

warped scroll
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Yeah those are chipsets

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AM4, LGA 1200, LGA 1151, etc

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Or TR4 too I guess

hollow thorn
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TR4x or whatever it was called

ashen thorn
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AMD ryzen. Haven’t decide which chip to get yet?

hollow thorn
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AM4

topaz reef
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sp3 or bust

tepid widget
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Can someone help me with an issue I’ve recently started getting with my cpu?

native geode
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whats wrong

supple monolith
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Don't ask to ask, just ask :)

hearty shale
grizzled hearth
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Can someone point me in the right direction... i have a msi z390 godlike motherboard with i9 9900k rtx 2060s. The first week of having it i had to do a RMA and they refused to tell me what they had to fix/do, that said it was not showing temps on the cpu socket pcie1, mos. And voltage was 24v on the 12v,10v on the 5v. Now a few months later temps not showing up on m.2 1-3, pcie1-5 and mystic lights are not working at all just the ram default lights are working. This has been the worst pc i have ever built. I have reformatted numerous times and even bought a new wd-black sn750 1tb to go with my 500gb plus t-force night hawk 2 16gb kits.

naive pendant
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ask one of the vips or techies

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they will know

charred venture
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I just set it as 4.5 all cores

naive pendant
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i was looking at a x570 mother board and it said the memory type was "DDR4 SDRAM"
can i use regular ram
or do i have to get specific type of ram

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no i mean like do i have to use sdram

wintry rose
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Oh

naive pendant
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but someone told me i can use ddr4

wintry rose
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Sorry that is outside of my knowledge

naive pendant
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so its fine thanks for responding thou

wintry rose
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I dunno what sdram is lol

naive pendant
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thanks for trying

nocturne swift
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I got an issue with my memory, where it'll slowly rise as long as the system is on, to the point where its unusable

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it rises faster whenever I install something

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CPU is i7 6700k

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RAM is 16 gigs Corsair Dominator rated for 2400 MHz (though running at 2133 because I haven't had the time to OC it yet)

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Motherboard is MSI Z170a

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I've considered buying more ram, but that'd just be a temporary fix and I'd prefer to deal with the issue rather than do something that'll let me ignore it

warped scroll
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How much memory do you have?

charred venture
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whats yall's opinions on buying custom ram heatsinks?

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i think it looks really nice if i have some w/o a heatsink

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i got 16gb b-die kit for around 45

meager pecan
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Anyone trust TechPowerUp reviews for CPUs?

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Apparently their 3100 OC frequencies were better than 3300X OC

upbeat lichen
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is $65 for a i5-6500 a decent deal? i need to drop a CPU into this dell I want to flip and replacing the original i7-6700 is way more than it's worth

digital kernel
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I mean, it's not great

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Reasonable for intel though

upbeat lichen
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i could go with a 6th gen i3, but that just feels mean to whoever i sell the machine to

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like, i'm offended on their behalf just thinking about it

woven ibex
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i gois

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hi*

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so rn

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im doing an essay bout amd v intel

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i just need sum examples about how intel is better?

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any thing would hep

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help*

hollow thorn
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Better single core performance

woven ibex
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also if anyone can give me a few examples of single-core processes, that would help very much

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thx

hollow thorn
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Gaming performance

woven ibex
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lololol

hollow thorn
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Lower mem latency

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Lower cross ccx latency

digital kernel
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It has higher single core performance

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Intel doesn't really have that much of a ccx structure

hollow thorn
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Well

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Lack of latency

woven ibex
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don’t they also have lower tdP/

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?

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tdp*

hollow thorn
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Because Intel doesn't have cross ccx latency

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No they don't

digital kernel
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The main pros to intel are slightly lower latency, marginally higher single core, and avx512

hollow thorn
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And they also measure tdp differently

woven ibex
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what about better IPC?

hollow thorn
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With AMD being more accurate and Intel being more spendy with power

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Lower IPC afaik

digital kernel
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Yeah

hollow thorn
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Since Intel chips need the higher frequency to gain an edge over AMD in single core perf

digital kernel
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(intel kinda doesn't have that much going for it)

hollow thorn
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Ye

woven ibex
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^ yeah ik but im trynna seem impartial LMAO

hollow thorn
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Optane drives I guess? But those are kinda crappy

digital kernel
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AMD can use optane

woven ibex
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yeah but the essay’s solely about cpus

hollow thorn
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Oh thought it was Intel only

digital kernel
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Basically the big thing is they still have slightly better single core

hollow thorn
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Yes

woven ibex
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um can i get some examples of single-core processes

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?

digital kernel
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And avx512

hollow thorn
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And lower mem latency

digital kernel
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There aren't any really

nocturne swift
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@warped scroll I said 16

hollow thorn
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Games

digital kernel
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Single core performance is performance of a program that runs on only one of the CPUs cores

hollow thorn
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Well someone said audio work depends on 1 core per channel

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Not completely sure

digital kernel
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That's more of a guideline then anything

woven ibex
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idk that much

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but does like day-to-day browsing count?

hollow thorn
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Single core performance matters when something is poorly optimised

woven ibex
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hmm

digital kernel
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day-to-day it won't matter, so it's price

woven ibex
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yeah ok

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thanks guys

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this helped a lot

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cheers!

digital kernel
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There is another advantage

woven ibex
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?

digital kernel
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I just thought of it

hollow thorn
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Brand credibility? Maybe?

woven ibex
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^

hollow thorn
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space heater included on high end chips?

woven ibex
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lol

long geyser
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some random stuff is heavily Intel optimized

hollow thorn
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I don't know specifics tho

digital kernel
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They have a much larger engineering department. The main reason that intel is having so many issues is they're running on an old architecture. Having the bigger rengineering department means that they can put more into researching and designing new architectures

hollow thorn
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Some do be Intel optimised

woven ibex
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if you want, i can post the essay thru text and yall can see if there’s anything thats incorrect?

hollow thorn
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Tho that's not really a benefit for the CPUs is it?

digital kernel
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It means they will come back swinging in a bit

hollow thorn
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But that's the future of the brand not CPUs..?

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Actually sure you can mention it

woven ibex
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i mean

hollow thorn
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Isn't gonna be a major point

digital kernel
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They're just running on the fumes of an old design to stay in busieness right now. They will have good CPUs in design right now that AMD will be hard pressed to compete with

woven ibex
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Ever since the quarantine, people have been getting restless, not knowing what to do. Many have looked into new hobbies or ventures, others starting online businesses. One of the main options has been PC gaming. People start researching and looking for nice parts for their new rig, checking for compatibility and the best specs within their budget. There are however, certain parts that are more important than others and one of them is the Central Processing Unit(CPU). There are two major competitors, which are AMD and Intel. Both have strong suits and in turn also have disadvantages. But which brand should people get?
Advanced Micro Devices, more commonly known as AMD, has been recently dominating Intel in the CPU market. This is mainly due to their processors being very cheap, considering their performance capabilities compared to the Intel processors within the same budget range. For example, AMD’s previous flagship model, the Ryzen 9 3900X currently costs $419. It has 12 cores and 24 threads. Meanwhile, Intel’s previous flagship: the i9-9900k costs $470 with only 8 cores and 16 threads. AMD processors are not only cheaper, but can do multi-core processes way more efficiently than Intel processors. Multi-core processes include photo/video editing applications such as Adobe Photoshop and Premier, 3D modeling and rendering programs such as AutoCAD and Solidworks, and graphics-intensive games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare and Overwatch. Considering this information, AMD processors seem like the more reasonable options for consumers looking for great performance while keeping a tight budget.
Intel have been the reigning kings of the CPU market until recently, since AMD has been upping the competition.

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here. is there anything i have thats completely wrong?

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so far*

hollow thorn
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Well, 3900x technically is still current gen

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And I'd say 3950x is more of the flagship model

digital kernel
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I wouldn't call the 3900x a flagship

woven ibex
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hmm

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welp

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the article i read said that it was the previous flagship but do suppose that can change

hollow thorn
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Also graphically intensive games don't always need more cores

digital kernel
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Might go with high end or similar

hollow thorn
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It depends on how it was optimised

digital kernel
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They do technically need cores, it's just GPU cores instead of CPU cores

hollow thorn
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Yea

woven ibex
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mhm

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ok

hollow thorn
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It matters more with GPU power anyways

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It's the standard 4c8t good enough kinda thing

digital kernel
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Since you have gaming mentioned in the introduction, the single core performance would be a solid point

hollow thorn
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Yes

woven ibex
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ok but i don’t really know a lot about it to talk in depth about it

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like i kind of grasp the ideas

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but not fully enough to understand it

digital kernel
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Basically, using multiple cpu cores for a game involves a lot of very tricky timing and task distibution methods, which take a huge performance overhead if not done right. As a result, a lot of games still do most of their logic on a few individual cores running more or less independantly

woven ibex
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hmmm

digital kernel
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Like if you need to update every entity in a world with respect to every other entity, it's a lot easier to do them one after another on a single core than try to distribute the task out over a lot of cores and then collect the results back together, all while avoiding "collisions" or "race conditions" between the different cores

woven ibex
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so are you saying that even though some multicore processors are ranked for higher performance, the game could unintentionally tank the cpu’s performance?

digital kernel
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Yup. Poorly written multi threaded code can not only tank performance, but even cause the game to glitch out and crash entirely

woven ibex
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oof

charred venture
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also isnt it better with certain programs?

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like adobe?

digital kernel
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Imagine training a dog. If you only have one dog, it's pretty easy and you can get through some commands pretty easily. It's not fast, but it will work

woven ibex
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mhm

warm fulcrum
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so is this true what im seeing about the 4000 series AMD APUs?

digital kernel
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Then imagine trying to train multiple dogs at once. If you do it right, they can do all sorts of complex things (just look at the dog acts that they do at talent shows), but it can also become a mess very quickly

woven ibex
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hmm ok

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wow

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that analogy helped alot

digital kernel
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@charred venture, yeah. Editing programs like premier tend to lend themselves to multi threading a lot better than games

woven ibex
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thanks kind person

hollow thorn
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@warm fulcrum what about them

digital kernel
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Working with the dog analogy, premier and blender would be like you train a dog and then clone it a bunch of times

woven ibex
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hmm

charred venture
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no i meant for intel

warm fulcrum
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that they wont be availabe for us to buy for a while even though their being release july 21st. Go look at gamermelds video@hollow thorn

charred venture
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i thought adobe was intel friendly

digital kernel
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Oh for intel

hollow thorn
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Who's gamermeld...

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I wouldn't worry yet

digital kernel
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It might still be compiled for intel optimizations, I'm not sure. it can take advantage of multiple cores pretty well though, so I'm not sure how that would affect things

warm fulcrum
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@hollow thorn a pc youtuber. pretty credible source for info

digital kernel
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The 3990x was "released" (read: announced) a few months before it's available, so I wouldn't be too surprised

warm fulcrum
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oh. So would a september release date for consumers seem resonable?

digital kernel
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Also, APUs are more an OEM focused product, so it would make sense

charred venture
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3200g 😦

digital kernel
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September seems reasonable

warm fulcrum
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ok good

charred venture
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apus are great for anti sound builds lol

digital kernel
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Also for office machines

warm fulcrum
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CPUs then

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Is what I watnt

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want

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not APU

digital kernel
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Will you have a GPU?

warm fulcrum
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yes, 3080

digital kernel
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Then you want CPU

warm fulcrum
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Yeah

charred venture
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4900x

long geyser
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and a lot of rumors arent really true until like 2 weeks before release as well

charred venture
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😄

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rumors are fun to read

warm fulcrum
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If there to expensive i may just go with a 3700x

charred venture
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"AMD reversed engineered intel's cpus!"

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lmao

digital kernel
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No, AMD designed the spec and intel bought it

hollow thorn
#

@warm fulcrum watched it, it's just rumors, we'll have to see if they're even released 2 days from now

warm fulcrum
#

oh ok. Sounds good

digital kernel
#

I wouldn't be overly surprised if they were. There's been more and more murmering about them

warm fulcrum
#

Yeah. What do you think the prices for the 4000 series CPUs will be? Perhaps the release prices of the 3000 series CPUs?

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Im really curious about that one

woven ibex
#

i hope so

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lmao

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if not, then just a tad bit more expensive

digital kernel
#

My guess would be about the original release price for the zen2 maybe plus a bit

spare gyro
#

pricing will be similar and maybe a tiny bit more but amd has never really been one to go crazy on pricing between generations

#

And since they are trying (and succeeding at it) to capture more market share it would make sense to keep pricing similar and keep sticking it to intel

charred venture
#

amd has a bad rep in the Korean community

#

because they've been caught faking as real and advertising in public forums

#

like they pretend to be real people

digital kernel
#

North or south?

charred venture
#

prob both lol

#

north prob doesnt like amd for being an american company

digital kernel
#

Does north have internet now?

charred venture
#

they always did

digital kernel
#

Kinda

charred venture
#

just very limited i think

digital kernel
#

Have I shared n. korea Linux?

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

Red Star OS

Red Star OS (Korean: 붉은별; MR: Pulgŭnbyŏl) with development first starting in 1998 at the Korea Computer Center (KCC). Prior to its release, computers in North Korea typically used Red Hat Linux and Windows XP.Version 3.0 was released in the summer of 2013, but as of 2014, vers...

gritty patio
#

What is it

digital kernel
#

I linked it. Basically Windows wasn't williing to share the data they gather and didn't gather enough, so they made their own version of Linux so they can control everything about your computer

gritty patio
#

That's what Red Star is?

digital kernel
#

yup

charred venture
#

thats... dedication

naive pendant
naive pendant
#

Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) vs GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Pro WiFi some one tell me which one is better

tacit hemlock
#

I would personally go for the asus out of those too but may I ask why you chose those

naive pendant
#

i was just asking and i chose those because i have it in my budget to get a good mobo

tacit hemlock
#

What do you plan on using your system for

naive pendant
#

gaming, streaming, video editing, programming, and photo editing

#

gaming and streaming and programming are the main focuses

tacit hemlock
#

Ok, so while you might have enough money for one of those boards, it is really really not necessary

naive pendant
#

wdym

tacit hemlock
#

Only really practical for pcie 4.0 storage solutions

naive pendant
#

i have not decided for sure yet and i am still looking through options

#

i might switch out

tacit hemlock
#

Save your self a good bit of money and get a b550 board

naive pendant
#

i was looking for a x570 from the start

tacit hemlock
#

Why?

naive pendant
#

but i can come down to a b550 if i need too

tacit hemlock
#

Its not really a big step down

#

What do you need in a x570 board?

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Because all it has to offer compared to a b550 is better vrms (which isn't rly necessarily for 3rd gen ryzen) and pcie 4.0

naive pendant
#

because i dont want to switch out the board in like a few years

#

i want to keep the board long term

tacit hemlock
#

Well, I have good news and bad news

naive pendant
#

yea

tacit hemlock
#

The good news is you won't need to buy a new board for 4th gen ryzen, regardless of whether its a b450 550 or x570

naive pendant
#

ik that

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idk about b450 but b550 and x570 i knew

tacit hemlock
#

The bad news is there is no board you can buy rn that will future proof past 2 years ish

#

Because ddr5 and am5 socket are supposed to come late 2021

naive pendant
#

do you know a good b550 board

#

that has type c and usb 3.1 gen 1 and gen 2

tacit hemlock
#

Asus b550 e gaming does iirc

naive pendant
#

what mother board do you have?

tacit hemlock
#

Sigh... an x570 lol

#

Not my proudest decision

#

I wanted to do the same thing as you and future proof but I found out about the socket and memory advancements too late

tame narwhal
#

Ok i have a question do you need like THE BEST motherboard for a gaming pc

tacit hemlock
#

No

tame narwhal
#

will a Gigabyte B550M Motherboard work?

tacit hemlock
#

Rly won't matter too much if your just gaming

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Yes

tame narwhal
#

ok thanks

naive pendant
#

i like the board you sent

tacit hemlock
#

Ya, its a good one

naive pendant
#

but the only thing that i dont like is that is has SO many usb 2.0s

tacit hemlock
#

Ya, that's the one trade off

naive pendant
#

and only 3 usb 3.0

#

1 type c

#

and 2 type as

tacit hemlock
#

One sec

naive pendant
#

i can work with it thou

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its fine

#

but its 2020

#

and its a b550

#

who needs 5 USB 2.0s

tacit hemlock
#

Alternatively you could get this one, its about the best value x570 there is

#

Does your case have usb c front io?

naive pendant
#

yea

tacit hemlock
#

Frick

naive pendant
#

i was look at this board

#

earlier today

#

i can work without the front usb c

tacit hemlock
#

Oh

#

Well then this would be the one imo

naive pendant
#

if the board features are a good trade off

#

if not i will go with the b550 u sent

tacit hemlock
#

Its got about everything you could want

#

Besides the front io usb c support

#

However, i am curious if @hollow thorn knows of a better option

hollow thorn
#

know what

naive pendant
#

a better motherboard for x570

hollow thorn
#

need wifi or no

naive pendant
#

or b550

#

yes wifi

#

if you can

#

if not no wifi is fine

#

did you find one yet @hollow thorn

hollow thorn
#

wu

#

oh

tacit hemlock
#

I thought we were looking for one with usb c front io support

naive pendant
#

i think i am gonna take the b550 mobo

tacit hemlock
#

its still a good board

long geyser
#

usb c front IO? Dont forget it's the protocol that you want here, not form factor. So better question is USB 3.0 or 3.1 at front

sterile sphinx
#

anyone know how to check the temperatuer of RAM

topaz reef
#

@sterile sphinx depends on the ram

sterile sphinx
#

what software should i use

topaz reef
#

depends on the ram

sterile sphinx
#

if my ram doesnt have a thermometer is that ok

topaz reef
#

you will need to attach a sensor to get readings then

sterile sphinx
#

oh

digital kernel
#

Usually ram will stay cool enough

topaz reef
#

yeah gone are the says of FBDIMM

sterile sphinx
#

what if i overclock my ram

#

will it get too hot?

topaz reef
#

32GB dimms and under dont really get warm

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yes it will get hotter if you overclock

sterile sphinx
#

is that a big problem

topaz reef
#

the only ram that i know of that needs active cooling are 128GB and higher dimms

sterile sphinx
#

ok

topaz reef
#

the 256gb dimms get really hot

sterile sphinx
#

thanks

naive pendant
#

Hi, I'm on the website of my motherboard and I don't know what those 2 things mean:

Supports 4 GB and 8 GB DDR4 UDIMMs
Does that mean that I can't have a 16 GB?, but then it says
Supports up to 32 GB (unbuffered) on 64-bit computers

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If the mobo only has 2 ram slots and only support 4GB and 8GB UDIMMS, how can it support 32GB lol

ashen thorn
#

Are X570 motherboards good to use in a build?

warped scroll
#

In some builds yeah

#

Higher budget builds

#

But B550 is an option too

ashen thorn
#

Thanks @warped scroll

warped scroll
#

np

upbeat lichen
#

i can convert my primary desktop over to a first gen threadripper for about $400, but i'm debating if it's worth it. it'll still be used for gaming, but I'm also starting to work more with VMs due to some work-focused learning that i'm getting started with, dusting off my hacker brain and starting to learn some devops stuff. just trying to decide if it's worth an entire platform shift, or just upgrading to a ryzen with more cores/threads

hollow thorn
#

iPC

upbeat lichen
#

$160 for a 1900x, $180 for a used x399 board, $40 for a new case, and i found a deal on a TR4 AIO for $50. i'd be moving everything else over from my existing system or using other parts I have available

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and I'm on an r5 2600 right now

hollow thorn
#

1st gen tr = 1st gen Ryzen in architecture

#

I'd think a 2700x beats a 1900x

#

And so should 3700x

upbeat lichen
#

will the loss of the extra PCI lanes and quad channel have any real impact? i'm already on a B450 board for my 2600

hollow thorn
#

Unless you need it for something

#

Not like VMs take 2tb of ram and 4 GPUs

upbeat lichen
#

that's true, maybe i'll just look at a cpu upgrade

#

maybe move to a higher end 3000 series

#

👍

cold canyon
#

i have an amd ryzen 3 2300x processor and its not running as well as it used to. any tips on what i can do. im running about 65C

#

i also have an rtx 570

warped scroll
#

RTX 570 lol

#

Anyways

#

65C is a fine temperature. Pretty decent actually. What’s the problem?

#

@cold canyon

median quarry
#

hmm i'm looking at updating my b450 to a x570, anyone have any suggestions for a decent mobo that has 3rd party waterblock options?

rose sonnet
#

Does anyone know

#

Who I could contact

#

To make me a motherboard

#

Custom

#

That could fit more then 6 graphics card

#

In my

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Table pc

tacit hemlock
warped scroll
#

Just get a mining motherboard bruh

#

Or a normal ATX motherboard and then just get a few PCIe risers

short sage
digital kernel
#

@rose sonnet A custom motherboard is gonna be really expensive

short sage
#

With 6 gpus I bet he can handle the expense lol

digital kernel
#

Like thousands of dollars expensive

short sage
#

Gotta do whatever it takes for that table pc

digital kernel
#

I guess

#

The high end AMD chip to power those all will also be expensive, so I guess it's no biggie

short sage
#

I wish I had the problem of having 6 gpus

digital kernel
#

lol

short sage
#

Pffft

#

I get 30 FPS on minecraft beat that

digital kernel
#

uhhh

#

These get zero

mighty sinew
#

Ryzen 5 3600 or 3700x ? My son will be doing schooling and gaming

digital kernel
#

What's the budget?

#

Also what level/field of school

mighty sinew
#

1st grade lol 😆

#

He’s got a x570 elite mobo 32g ram and 2070 super

digital kernel
#

Wow

#

Okay then

mighty sinew
#

He’s a gamer

#

Had to add the school part so the wife would approve

digital kernel
#

What speed ram?

naive pendant
#

wait what?

mighty sinew
#

3600

digital kernel
#

Latency?

naive pendant
#

he first grade and he is getting a nice pc

mighty sinew
#

16

naive pendant
#

i wish i got one when i was in first grade

digital kernel
#

Are you trolling?

naive pendant
#

the memory is good

#

i think he is

mighty sinew
#

No I’m not

digital kernel
#

Okay then

#

um

#

What games does he play

mighty sinew
#

I’ll be gaming on it too

digital kernel
#

Ah

mighty sinew
#

That’s why I’m buying the stuff

digital kernel
#

Now it all makes sense

mighty sinew
#

Lol

naive pendant
#

ok

#

there

#

what do you need

#

a 3600 or a 3700x?

digital kernel
#

"yeah, it's for the kid. I'll just use it a bit"

naive pendant
#

get a 3700x

digital kernel
#

Yeah

#

might as well

naive pendant
#

its gonna be better if you are gonna game and it will pair nice with a 2070s

mighty sinew
#

I was trying to figure out is it worth the two extra course for the extra money

digital kernel
#

With the specs of the rest of the system the way they are, no point not getting four more threads

mighty sinew
#

Cores*

naive pendant
#

yea

#

its worth it

digital kernel
#

I mean, you already spent extra on ram so might as well

naive pendant
#

with your system heck you can go for a 3800xt

digital kernel
#

Eh

naive pendant
#

if you want

digital kernel
#

3700x will suffice

mighty sinew
#

Not trying to spend too much more money

#

I’ve been drained

naive pendant
#

ok

#

then a 3700x will be good

#

i think right now newegg has a offer for the 3700x

mighty sinew
#

Just got the EVGA 750w 80+gold g3

#

And I have lian li 2 case

naive pendant
#

assassin's creed Valhalla

digital kernel
#

...not trying to spend too much money

mighty sinew
#

And a hyper 212 evo

digital kernel
#

oh yeah btw I have a tricked out system

#

I'd just go with the 3700x

#

A 3600 in that system would just be silly

naive pendant
#

yea

mighty sinew
#

You thing the hyper 212 evo will be fine

digital kernel
#

Yeah

naive pendant
#

yes

digital kernel
#

The stock cooler is enough honestly

mighty sinew
#

Kk

#

Well thank you guys I appreciate the info

rose sonnet
#

SO custom motherboard expensive

#

So i need motherboard

#

Has 4 slots for GRP

#

*GPU

#

With AMD RYZEN 9 or Intel 109000 i9

#

Or Ryzen 9 down

#

Maybe asus

#

Rog

#

Motherboard

#

A good one

#

i NEED all rog

short sage
#

So you need a ROG mobo that has 4 compatible gpu slots and is compatible with ryzen 9?

#

I don’t think you need all rog id go model > brand

rose sonnet
#

I ened a motherboard

#

That can fit

#

4 gpu

#

Idc a brand just i need motherboard

#

rgb

short sage
#

I have a seizure everytime you type my goodness

#

But I’ll see if I can find one

warped scroll
#

These are the only ones I can find. They look overpriced or sketchy

short sage
#

Supermicro DaHeck

naive pendant
#

yea

warped scroll
#

@rose sonnet You might have to do Ryzen Threadripper instead of AM4 or LGS 1200

short sage
#

Never heard of em

naive pendant
#

godlike is pretty good

#

for 4 gpus

short sage
#

Godlike is really nice

#

@rose sonnet do you have a budget?

naive pendant
#

like the best ROG is AM4 and it can take up to 2 PCI*16

#

so you will have to get thread ripper

short sage
#

Anyway threadripper is probably the best to utilize 4 GPUs anyway

digital kernel
#

You could do it with non tr if you don't mind using x8 or x4 connections

#

Which given the fact you want 4 GPUs is probably the case

short sage
#

^^^

rose sonnet
#

Hwo good is the

#

LGA 1200

naive pendant
#

wdym

#

thats a socket

#

not a cpu

rose sonnet
#

i Mnea how good is the

#

Supermicro

#

C9Z490

#

PGW

naive pendant
#

oh ok

magic swift
#

Hi , I have an older I7 cpu ; I believe ls1151 coming from a motherboard with ddr3 ram . I there a replacement motherboard available ?

upbeat lichen
#

which i7 specifically?

magic swift
#

It's coming from a xps8300 dell . I believe ; ls1151

#

2600 is listed

upbeat lichen
#

ahh, i think that's an 1155 cpu, not 1151

#

if you want to upgrade to something on DDR4, i think you'll have to get a new cpu/motherboard/memory combo. i don't think that era of CPU had any boards with DD4 support, but i could be wrong

naive pendant
#

I need help with a friend

#

oops wrong chat

magic swift
#

unfortunately , I believe that you're correct . I just didn't want to throw away a good cpu

#

thank you for your input on my problem .

upbeat lichen
#

you can probably sell the 2600 with the board and memory as a package, just so it doesn't get tossed

naive pendant
#

Chaun, Can i get your help on something?

upbeat lichen
#

i can try lol

naive pendant
#

So my friend has a PC and

#

He has better specs than mine

#

He can't run GTA5 but i can

#

Basically as an example of a game

upbeat lichen
#

'can't run' as in it doesn't load at all, or it just runs like crap?

naive pendant
#

He can run it and load it

#

But low FPS

#

Basically

upbeat lichen
#

first thing i'd check is that all his drivers are actually installed and up to date

naive pendant
#

Warframe works for him

#

Uhh

#

I can't remember how to do that

upbeat lichen
#

both AMD and NVIDIA have control panels which can check driver versions

naive pendant
#

Also a note, He got it from Rent a Center so pre owned and 6.71 of his 8Gb RAM is being used

upbeat lichen
#

if he has drivers installed already, he can check that way

#

was it a pre-existing install of windows, or a fresh install?

#

like, did he get the machine with other people's files still on it (hopefully not lol)

naive pendant
#

He says no files were on it

upbeat lichen
#

i'd definitely check drivers first. if he's able to play warframe smoothly, he's gotta have drivers of some kind

#

so he should have a control panel app he can launch, to check the current version

naive pendant
#

I have his spec list

upbeat lichen
#

the other thing he can do, is have steam or wahtever do a file check on the app, to make sure nothing is corrupted in the GTA install itself

naive pendant
#

No he can't run other games like The Division 2

#

well

#

Could but real bad FPS

upbeat lichen
#

you said warframe runs though? smooth and high fps?

naive pendant
#

He said most of the time

#

Sometimes it would slow

#

Internet is fine for him

upbeat lichen
#

yeah, check drivers first, it's quick and easy

naive pendant
#

I thought he had a Nvidia 1660Ti but i was wrong

#

Nvidia GTX 1050

upbeat lichen
#

oh, that's probably his issue then

naive pendant
#

Oddly enough though

upbeat lichen
#

depending on what resolution/detail level he's trying to run at

naive pendant
#

i have a 1030

#

And my FPS is perfectly fine

upbeat lichen
#

what are you running things at, compared to him?

naive pendant
#

Uhhh

upbeat lichen
#

if he's trying to push 1080p ultra or something, the 1050 is gonna struggle

naive pendant
#

Low obliviously for some games

#

I want to say

#

Low graphics for GTA5 besides distance and other small things

#

He just has bad FPS

#

He's updating it right now

#

I might aswell ask him to update his AMD while he's at it

upbeat lichen
#

make sure he's running on realistic settings as well

naive pendant
#

He also has another

#

thing for a display adapter

#

AMD 15DD

upbeat lichen
#

that's the integrated GPU i think

naive pendant
#

I have a pic of the back of his PC

upbeat lichen
#

which he shouldn't be running on

naive pendant
#

I believe it's connected to the GPU though

#

By the looks of it

upbeat lichen
#

yeah, that's the gpu

naive pendant
#

Because my motherboard has Plug ins for monitors but they don't work

#

Half of it doesn't work anyways besides 2 or 4 USB ports and the Ethernet and thats it

#

but

#

So he's connected to the GPU

#

Is there a control panel to where he can change the limiter or something?

#

I think I've seen some around Youtube time to time

upbeat lichen
#

i'm not as familiar with the nvidia control panel, but he can check in-game settings as well

naive pendant
#

Oh Christ i forgot about that

#

thanks for reminding me

upbeat lichen
#

after updating the drivers, i would just try loading in, cranking the settings all the way down to low, and then try increasing them until performance becomes choppy

#

there are also certain settings that will wreck performance on lower end cards, usually things like anisotropic filtering, some shadow settings, things like that

naive pendant
#

like FMXX or something

#

I don't know what types they are and i typically leave them alone

#

Besides shadow

#

Anisotropic and something else with like 8x something

upbeat lichen
#

MSAA, FXAA, etc

naive pendant
#

yeah

#

I leave that alone because i don't know what it does and never tried to google it

#

Stupid of me but

#

eh

#

Anyways he updated the drivers

#

his AMD was up to date

#

and he's downloading the control panel

#

And it just said it's not compatible with his GPU

#

I'm also screen sharing with him so i can't physically take over

upbeat lichen
#

that's harder for me to troubleshoot because i don't know what he's trying to install and where he's getting it from

naive pendant
#

Like installing a game or something in his computer that is just

#

He asked me to invite you to the server

#

Are you willing to join or just keep going with text

#

To be honest I'm sure i'm confusing you

#

(I'm not trying to promote my server or anything, But it'd be less confusing)

upbeat lichen
#

i'm still working, so its' easier for me to just keep it here

naive pendant
#

Ohhhhh

upbeat lichen
#

as long as his GPU drivers are up to date, which he can do through GeForce Experience, i would just try launching some stuff, setting everything to like 720p low to start

#

and see how things run

#

and then start turning thing sup

short juniper
#

Hi guys, can anyone help me with a blue screen problem, i have a rog strix z370-h gaming motherboard with a i7 8700k , i purchased a i9 9900k and updated bios on mb to the lastest and get a blue screen?/

naive pendant
#

He's playing GTA5 right now and it's fine till he goes fast in the car, then it's bad

#

But we can figure it out, Thank you

ionic wave
#

is this a good motherboard?

long geyser
#

it's okay, but any reason to be buying z390? 10th get is out for Intel which is better priced then 8th/9th and AMD is also there with better pricing then any intel chip

ionic wave
#

well i know that but im just working with the cpu i have and if i ever really ever need it i can get better

#

i have a i7 8700k thats not too bad right?

short juniper
#

i have the 8700k too, overclock it and its just as fast as a i9 9900k

ionic wave
#

thats what im thinking it wouldnt do too good with the asrock board i have

#

just looking for a little upgrade

short juniper
#

i just got a rog strix z390-h gaming mb and a i9 9900k to change over, but checking against the i7 8700k its a few fps faster in most games

ionic wave
#

well im not really looking for the best just smooth

short juniper
#

new mb would be best option

ionic wave
#

whats better g skill or corsair

short juniper
#

i rushed and got my new items,i might just sell them and upgrade in the future

ionic wave
#

ive done some research on mine

short juniper
#

i have corsair 3000mhz and never had issues

ionic wave
#

i think i might go with the 3200mhz

short juniper
#

i had 16gb of 3000mhz so i added 16gb more,lol

ionic wave
#

ill probably do that in the future

digital kernel
#

I'd go with 3200, and avoid corsair

#

It's lower quality

#

For the price that is

heady root
#

me over here with my ddr3 1600mhz uh

ionic wave
#

your paying for the name is what your saying

short juniper
#

lol

digital kernel
#

If you can afford faster, get faster. Not quite a big of a deal with intel, but it'll still make a difference

#

if you don't have a new non-z series motherboard

#

Since you have the z390, all is good

ionic wave
#

alright thanks guys

short juniper
#

i got my corsair 16gb rgb for £70 on ebay brand new

ionic wave
#

i got a corsair k55 keyboard for $15 new

short juniper
#

cool

#

anybody good on cpu,s

#

oops just purchased a rtx 2080 ti 🥳

warped scroll
#

oops lol

short juniper
#

£900 not sure in $

warped scroll
#

around $1.1k

short juniper
#

that good ,brand new

warped scroll
#

eh. Normal price

short juniper
#

good for the uk, start at 1049

#

the card i got on nvidia website £1149, so cool

#

got a msi gtx 1080 ti twin forza for sale,lol

hushed plume
#

can anyone recommend a mother board

#

for my httpss://pcpartpicker.com/list/vG8jzN

short juniper
#

is tha a usa thing,part picker?

quaint current
#

they have a bunch of different currencies/stores

short juniper
#

uk?

quaint current
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it helps for people looking at builds and is easy to use

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yeah they should have an option

short juniper
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ill check it out , thanks

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looks good, build up a pc on the budget you have

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that picture on your avatar is that a sulphar crested cockateil

quaint current
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idk what breed it is but yeah its a cockatiel

short juniper
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my dad use to have a avairy in the back garden, so i know a few birds

merry prawn
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ok so i know a 3700x would throttle a 2080ti, what about the 3000 series gpu's

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say i get a 3070 super, should i switch to a 3900x or something else

hollow thorn
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throttle?

charred venture
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throttle?

hollow thorn
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that's not exactly how it works

quaint current
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birds look fun to have as pets but i just have cats

charred venture
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the 3700x heats up the gpu lol

hollow thorn
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it doesn't just downclock itself because it detects a certain CPU :P

charred venture
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i wish i had a cat

hollow thorn
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but birb

charred venture
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catto

hollow thorn
quaint current
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birds and snakes sound fun as pets they cute

hollow thorn
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ya

charred venture
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snakes sound iffy

hollow thorn
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birb and snek

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smol snek can be fun

quaint current
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snakes are cool

charred venture
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but birb

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yeah i like snakes

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but idk how much people that visit me will

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like imagine bringing your girlfriend home and she just sees a snake

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gg

quaint current
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thats why you get a cute snek

merry prawn
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so the 2080ti would throttle the cpu?

quaint current
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no

short juniper
quaint current
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a 3300x would probably be fine with a 3080 ti

long geyser
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lows tho. 3600 would probably have noticeable lows from 3300x on 3080Ti

merry prawn
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wait so is bottlenecking the same thing?

quaint current
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true i just picked a cheap cpu, more threads would help with the lows

long geyser
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"bottlenecking" is such a bad term tbh. All PCs have a bottleneck no matter how hard you try, just depends on workload

hollow thorn
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Yes

quaint current
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just dont pair a 5 year old budget cpu with a new top tier gpu and usually you will be okay

hollow thorn
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a Perfect PC can't be achieved

merry prawn
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this is for a brand new build

hollow thorn
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It's just put most of your budget into the GPU, and leftovers into the CPU

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that's the doctrine

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sure a 10600k+2080ti beats 3600+2080ti, but one is more expensive than the other :P

quaint current
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id say its a little more complex than that but thats the general idea for gaming

hollow thorn
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Yea

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simple terms are nice terms :P

quaint current
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dont cheap out on a psu to get a better gpu

hollow thorn
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Don't cheap out on anything

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get the cheapest decent thing

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then pour the budget into the GPU

merry prawn
hollow thorn
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pcpartpicker :PPP

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what's with the dual SN750

quaint current
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strix is kinda overkill for a 3700x you could save $100 and still get a good motherboard

merry prawn
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those links got deleted in this server for me

hollow thorn
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they don't

quaint current
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u can send links now that ur level 3

hollow thorn
merry prawn
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oh ok

hollow thorn
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god damn

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2500$ setup eh

quaint current
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its so trolls cant join and post links asap

hollow thorn
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could just wait for next gen Ryzen and Nvidia

merry prawn
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i also went the board cause it had the dual m.2

hollow thorn
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most do

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:P

quaint current
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most atx do

hollow thorn
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even itx is getting dual m.2

quaint current
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decent itx ones will too but thats not the point

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the backside one sucks for thermals

hollow thorn
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ye

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can't fit a heatsink on for 4.0 drives

quaint current
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dont get me started on dtx and that stupid asus board

hollow thorn
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yea we shouldn't

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triple m.2 is bit more special tho

quaint current
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cant u run that on itx with a m.2 card

merry prawn
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would that be a better option for the mobo then?

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i could put a bit more towards the gpu then

quaint current
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you could get a x570 for cheaper like the tuf gaming plus

hollow thorn
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yea

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X570 plus wifi

merry prawn
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this one?

hollow thorn
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B550 for 200$ is just absurd

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yes

merry prawn
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that b550 was third party anyway, i'm not rushing the build since i have to wait for the 3000 series

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wait the tuf gaming doesnt say it supports 3600 mhz though

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for third gen

quaint current
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it supports it

merry prawn
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but the specs say it doesn't?

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so if i ever decided to change the cpu, id also have to change the mobo

quaint current
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it supports 2133 throught 4400, they just dont list the rest because theres another 6 or 7 speeds between 4400 and 3466

merry prawn
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in hindsight, that seems obvious actually lol

quaint current
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it'd be better if they had something to show its a gap but i get where ur coming from

hushed plume
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ayyy

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lets go

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thx

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but can anyone help me find a motherboard tho

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i dont wanna preorder onr

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one

short juniper
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any experts on cpu/mb combo

neat glacier
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@short juniper none of us are experts... but we are pretty smart what;s the question?

short juniper
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sorry was playing cod, i have a asus strix z-370 mb with a i7 8700k and i purchased a i9 9900k , i read if i upgrade bios to lastest it will run it, which i did and i get a blue screen when fitted??

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do i need to re install windows??

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or best to try bios again even though it says its the lastest on cpuid cpu

neat glacier
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update the bios

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it should work tho

short juniper
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it says it should on website , cpu works
for the mb

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thank you

short sage
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@short juniper did it work?

short juniper
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hi stryker , its not seeing the usb stick/folder at the moment

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just trying again

short juniper
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i manage to update bios from a download, but will try cpu tomorrow

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does a part change affect windows?

lethal glacier
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@short juniper 1 thing to try I guess would be to reset the CMOS.

icy yoke
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Typcially on windows 8 and 10 cpu changes not really

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What part or parts you change out and what version of windows your running does have a effect

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Vista and xp were not as graceful with it

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Actually ive taken the same build of windows 10 between uefi and non uefi systems and entirely different platforms

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If you say move from x58 to x79 the OS while starting up will have to reconfigure a few things and it will tske a few min if you force it to run on stuff that drastically different

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But most of the time it works

short juniper
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ok thanks for that, i give a whirl tomorrow

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im running windows 10 pro 2004 version

naive pendant
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what is a good b550 mobo

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atx

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the main use for the build is not gaming

urban bronze
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what is a good cpu-mobo combo for a 500$ gaming pc

short juniper
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amd or intel

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amd would give more for your buck