Forget him
#cpus-mobo-and-memory
cedar rune
upbeat lichen
and they're gone already
cedar rune
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232181?Item=N82E16820232181 does this look reliable
The ram
eager flame
hollow thorn
Ye
split copper
That they are
bitter haven
neat estuary
Seems pretty good
im planning to get a b550 and see if i cant get to the imginary 4k numbers soon in ram
dire wedge
Pong
neat glacier
Ping
naive pendant
We had a rogue ping attack last night
naive pendant
They're no longer with us.
vestal pier
So I have these wires, I know where they plug into, but there is a certain way to do it right?
supple monolith
vestal pier
Don’t got one
supple monolith
You can usually google you mobo's model and get one
neat glacier
s/he doesn't know it
supple monolith
Hmm. Well the pinout might be printed on the board
vestal pier
neat glacier
do u know the brand at least?
naive pendant
That and the model of the MB is printed on it somewhere.
supple monolith
Can you send a pic of the whole mobo?
vestal pier
naive pendant
supple monolith
Not the same one, though close
vestal pier
Thank you
naive pendant
Yeah, it's not the exact revision but those connections shouldn't change much
supple monolith
Well, different cpu power connecter (two four pins vs one), headers are not in the same place, PCLe slots are different. But it might work
naive pendant
They changed a lot from 1 to 1.05 than. Busy little bees
Willing to bet there's something along the right edge that isn't in the photo.
vestal pier
I’m so confused
naive pendant
nvm, it just wasn't showing on my view
long geyser
There is text there
naive pendant
And they are actually color coded.
naive pendant
Along the bottom there should be one labeled usb, that should be the black one. And another labeled audio, that would be the blue.
vestal pier
Nvm got it
charred venture
boot code 09 on aorus ultra motherboard and shutting down and turning back on what?
d9
deft phoenix
Would it be best to get an open box mobo?
vital cairn
should i wait for cpu
because i hear that i9 10900 is totally not worth it
and i should wait for the amd 4000 series
neat glacier
up to u
u could go 9th gen too
and u can't trust everything u see in the tabloids of "nvidia and amd forlore"
naive pendant
I've never gone wrong with AMD / Nvidia
tulip raft
fickle goblet
when I'm monitoring temps for my cpu, which should I watch? packages or cores? or do both not need to exceed a certain temp
main pulsar
it does not
11th gen on LGA 1200 will, however
dont worry about PCIe 4.0, its not meant for you just yet
no gamer or streamer on the planet needs that much bandwidth to a device
plus, if your doing literally anything besides gaming or streaming, theres no reason to go intel
so
tacit hemlock
True ^
mild apex
is the ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING worth $95?
tacit hemlock
Many others would
mild apex
Agree to disagree
main pulsar
i agree
main pulsar
lol
mild apex
Most people I talked with always say, "oh, why don't you buy this one" and it'll be a expsenive mobo too overpowered for my setup lol
well thank you
tacit hemlock
Np
mild apex
@tacit hemlock
tacit hemlock
mild apex
@tacit hemlock sorry to bug again, but what's a good pair with a 3 1200 (not the new nanometer one) and what cpu can I upgrade to after
main pulsar
do you already have the 3 1200?
main pulsar
well, it will work with whatever gpu you pair it with
just get the best gpu that will fit in your budget, then you only have to upgrade your cpu in a few months instead of both your cpu and gpu
tacit hemlock
Ok so a 1650 super will do nicely until you can afford a cpu upgrade
mild apex
so, for example: If I do a huge jump to a 3600, you think the 1650 super can hold on until I get a 2070?
tacit hemlock
the gpu will be fully utilized so ya
tacit hemlock
Anytime
deep vigil
@vital cairn only go intel if you have a very very high budget
digital kernel
Big numbers
vital cairn
what
midnight pollen
not sure you can find it in stock
digital kernel
It's gonna cost a lot
vital cairn
yes i know
midnight pollen
i thinkthe cpu itself was a bit over 500usd retail
vital cairn
but i will wait for sale lol
digital kernel
Usually I would say go AMD so you can get better GPU performace, but with that budget meh
midnight pollen
might be a while until a sale
midnight pollen
the current amd cpus beat intel 
vital cairn
really?
midnight pollen
except gaming really
digital kernel
For all but raw gaming, in which case they lose out by only like 5%
It's a really narrow margin
vital cairn
and when is the new cpu coming out
digital kernel
Soon
vital cairn
in june?
vital cairn
it is close
digital kernel
Yup
digital kernel
Will you ever do anything besides gaming, and would you want to go next gen without getting a new mobo?
midnight pollen
ask bryce he got his 10900k for like 800usd i think
vital cairn
all i will do is gaming honestly
a bit of school work here and there
but mostly gaming
fresh plinth
The desktop versions of the 4000 series probobly wont be out until september
digital kernel
XT will be out before that
fresh plinth
maybe
vital cairn
so AMD Xt series
digital kernel
It would be pointless otherwise
fresh plinth
theres no official dates for anything yet
digital kernel
Maybe as late as december/jan
digital kernel
When in doubt, go AMD. It's better price/performance, so you can afford better componenets for the rest of the build
vital cairn
the z940 is the one compatible with intel 10th gen
digital kernel
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fresh plinth
z490 is compatible with 10th gen
vital cairn
like why would they price something so high when it performs marginally better
fresh plinth
and it really all depends on youre use case and your budget
because its the "best gaming chip"
vital cairn
well i dont want it to go past 5000
finite elm
I got a 3900x for 400$ lol. It's wonderful.
digital kernel
Because they used to be able to, and honestly, the monolithic design probably does have higher production costs
vital cairn
ok
spare ferry
anyone have any experience with m.2 nvme boot issues on their mb?
digital kernel
Yup
spare ferry
my mb has error LEDs and when i have my nvme installed on the bottom slot i get the VGA LED lit up
when i install it on the middle of the three slots it boots just fine
it's not my boot drive btw, my old ssd is still
digital kernel
Use the middle slot then I guess
spare ferry
wow such easy solution thanks
is the lower slot broken? it is supposed to work
and that's where i'd prefer to have it installed
digital kernel
Maybe? Are you able to get into bios?
spare ferry
and the upper slot is reserved for intel 11th gen so idk if that will even work
no i cannot get into bios when the drive is installed on the lower slot
but i can when it's installed under the gpu
digital kernel
What motherboard?
spare ferry
z490 aorus pro ax
digital kernel
10700k CPU?
digital kernel
The upper one not working makes sense if 10th gen doesn't have enough pcie lanes. Looking into the bottom one though
spare ferry
yes i know the upper one is reserved for 11th gen
the bottom one is supposed to work i read the manual
digital kernel
There are reports of graphics card issues that need bios changes/updates to be fixed
What version is your bios?
digital kernel
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Document/mb_m.2_support_intel_400.pdf
They have a list of supported m.2 drives. That's odd
digital kernel
How old is the motherboard?
digital kernel
There might be a defect with the mobo
spare ferry
yeah i left a review and they want me to reach out to their customer support (which i have)
but i just wanted to see quickly if my issue is common and easily fixable
i didn't have this issue with my z390 mb
like the computer powers on, but does not display a video signal or proceed to post
that's with the ssd installed on the M2M_SB slot
digital kernel
With a part that new, there's likely not going to be must known isuues
It might be attempting to boot directly to that slot
spare ferry
i mean maybe, but why does it behave differently with the M2A_SB slot? lol
digital kernel
Only things I could think of a re a bad component on that lane acting up, or some odd setting that's for that lane only
vital cairn
so what is ur verdicts
spare ferry
if it were attempting to boot to that slot what behavior should i see? all i get is the VGA boot led error and it sticks there
yeah bob, i think that might be the case
hopefully they can send me a replacement after no other options according to them work
vital cairn
should i get intel 10th gen cpus, or get the 9th gen cpus or go for ryzen 3000 series or wait for next amd cpus
digital kernel
I'd look into RMA. It's a weird enough issue
spare ferry
everyone will tell you ryzen 3000 even before asking you your preferences
digital kernel
Yeah
vital cairn
why do you have a 10700k
vital cairn
is it worth it?
digital kernel
Yup. It can work in the other slot until then though
vital cairn
the 10700k
spare ferry
because i wanted 9900k but cheaper which is what it is
vital cairn
ok is a 10700 k good
long geyser
Only somewhat worth it Intel unless you have a lot of cash is 10600k
vital cairn
ok i will see
long geyser
Get a 2080S/2080Ti before an Intel CPU
spare ferry
or unless you game at high refresh rate at 1080p
spare ferry
then intel is the better option for that honestly
vital cairn
ok
spare ferry
but only for gaming scenarios
vital cairn
ok
digital kernel
The saving on an AMD cpu will let you get a better GPU
spare ferry
if you do any workstation stuff amd's multithreaded processes exceed intel
vital cairn
i am getting a 2080 ti
long geyser
okay, then 10600k is a good option then
digital kernel
Also, you might have someone double check that monitor. 1ms is usually kinda sus
spare ferry
and their prices are very fair comparatively
long geyser
1ms G2G most likely
digital kernel
yeah
long geyser
not like there'll be a nice 1ms C2C
spare ferry
anyways 10th gen > 9th. lga 1151 is over
lga 1200 will have 11th gen support
only if you are buying brand new
that's the caveat
digital kernel
Sockets in intel only ever last two generations, so that's fine
digital kernel
Yes
long geyser
rumored 3090 for ampere. probs not true but... also probs a heavy push for multi GPU again
digital kernel
Ampere seems to be mostly data center improvements, but gaming will also get better
spare ferry
3090 worries me, that means a price increase
digital kernel
They're definitely pushing split GPU 🙂
vital cairn
that is what i am waiting for
spare ferry
but i am hoping amd are competitive enough to keep costs donw
digital kernel
Probably will be
spare ferry
i really hope i don't have to go through RMA, i will be computerless for weeks
and i also use it for work
digital kernel
AMD is mostly competitive already except in high end gaming and computing
spare ferry
i would rather sell this mb at a significantly lower cost and buy a brand new one then do rma
long geyser
AMD is good in computing. Not for ampere yet I think
but AMD pushed the 11k MSRP RTX Quadro 8000 down to 5.5k MSRP
split copper
lol
vital cairn
well i am waiting for now
spare ferry
waiting for?
digital kernel
Big Navi looks to be pretty good too
warped pecan
When is the B450 Tomahawk Max going to be back in stock?
mild apex
idk
hollow thorn
Grab a different board :p
B450 tomahawk max doesn't have the best features for the price, it just has VRMs.
neat glacier
Yo @digital kernel maybe u can help me- throwing together a build for a friend who does rendering, and has about a budget of roundabout 1000$- I wanna recommend a i9-10980xe, but is there an amd equivalent that may be better?
digital kernel
For rendering, much better
neat glacier
So... The 10980xe would be the best for that price range
digital kernel
No, the AMD is much better
neat glacier
Oh lmao which one?
digital kernel
What price is 10980xe usually?
neat glacier
1000$ on the dot
digital kernel
Wait, the $1000 is just for CPU?
upbeat lichen
do they plan on OC'ing it? because at stock speeds, i think the r9 3900x is way above and beyond in rendering performance, at like half the price
or less
digital kernel
Is the 10980 out of stock right now?
upbeat lichen
er, yeah, 3950
digital kernel
How in the world does intel have an 18core chip on their process
upbeat lichen
and the 3950 is like...700 bucks
digital kernel
Also could look into the 3960x
fresh plinth
thats like 1400 tho
digital kernel
I mean
long geyser
what about mobo and CPU cooler pricing
long geyser
10980XE isnt easy to cool like 3950x/3960x
neat glacier
Sry yeah oc definitely, were doing a custom loop
neat glacier
I'm gonna push him for a 3950x or 3960x
long geyser
can get a cheap copper watercooling CPU/GPU RGB kit from Bykski for $260 with a 360/240mm rad
or not... shipping prices died. Might come back later but seems like Barrow is still fine
Bykski: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR
Barrow: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32866793876.html
tho, barrow is lacking in included rad with the price that Bykski use to give
probs want more then a 240mm rad unless high FPI
quaint current
yeah $80 shipping kinda kills any deal lol
also barrow is still like $55 shipping fyi
long geyser
I know, but like $230 for base Barrow and $55 for shipping. $280 is still very cheap for a copper CPU/GPU loop
quaint current
tru
naive pendant
what happened to all the am4 itx motherboards?
theyre either extremely overpriced or all out of stock
hollow thorn
Corona
naive pendant
it's interesting though because it seems to have affected every itx mobo but not many other form factors
hollow thorn
Arous B450i pro wifi was decent a while back, prob bad again
hollow thorn
@naive pendant you gotta look deeper, b450m motherboards look like they're okay, most are either out of stock, back ordered, or highly priced
ATX boards are too, but some come back in stock from time to time
hollow thorn
Ds3h is what 69$ as usual, but it's back ordered
Yesterday aorus m was showing a decent price on pcpp, but it was actually out of stok
plush timber
still waiting for mobo and such to come in stock. was going to buy a ryzen 5 3600 but figured i'd wait b/c by the new next gen comes in stock the mobo might be back.
naive pendant
Question, when converting video files, what's the computer component that's used more for quicker conversion
Is it cpu to ram or anything to do with gpu
digital kernel
Depends on the exact converting software, but I think most use CPU
naive pendant
Ok so let's say I'm using a recommended software for quality conversions, what's the best cpu to get? AMD r.....?
quaint current
depends on ur budget
naive pendant
I was on a budget build but I'm slapping on some extra $$$ while I'm at it
Already have the mobo
quaint current
whats the budget for the cpu?
digital kernel
^
naive pendant
400
digital kernel
3900x
naive pendant
Already have 64 GB ram on the way
quaint current
yeah 3900x would be the best
naive pendant
Ok thanks
First I was building for gaming that's why I got that tuf pro b450
But then I'm like I do other things so what the hell I'll just spend the extra chi ching
digital kernel
That might be iffy for running the 3900x. Let me check real quick
naive pendant
Not planning to
long geyser
Tho, don't think you'll want to run zero airflow over VRMs
I'd doubt it'd like that
Simple case fan at top or back of case is fine
naive pendant
Well I live in the tropics so I'll just open the side slap on a mesh board n turn on my fan
long geyser
I mean, don't need to go overkill. But it works
naive pendant
Only component I have a hard time choosing is the dam gpu
finite elm
The stock cooler with the 3900x has treated me well so far.
vestal pier
Will getting a new motherboard reset your hwid ban on fortnite?
finite elm
Why'd you get hardware banned
hollow thorn
@vestal pier depends, sometimes it might be tied to both your motherboard and your windows, if you're hwid banned, you're prob ip banned too
digital kernel
ip changes all the time though. I don't think they would ban based on that
hollow thorn
eh they can do a blend
midnight pollen
it has happened before
digital kernel
My guess is they would pull some combination of things from the registry and make a fingerprint from them
charred venture
dont get hardware banned 
digital kernel
And if you do, learn how to use regedit
vestal pier
@hollow thorn im not ip banned, because i can play on ps4.
naive pendant
@digital kernel dose it matter which brand in the 5700xt?
digital kernel
Not really, that was just a decent CPU I pulled out of thin air
You might want a slightly higher spec one though
Also, so you do anything that needs nvidia?
naive pendant
Nope. Not really, and that brand seems way to pricey for my liking
digital kernel
What exactly do you mean by "not really"
vital cairn
when should i build my pc
digital kernel
Not now if you can avoid it
vital cairn
yes i can wait
@digital kernel what is your prediction will the AMD 4000 series beat the intel 10th gens?
digital kernel
Yes
vital cairn
in terms of gaming?
digital kernel
the 3000 refresh is beating 10th gen
vital cairn
so even in terms of gaming
mild jackal
Not for gaming
digital kernel
Yeah, probably not there. Gaming is a bit trickier than pure benchmarks.
Should be roughly the same though
digital kernel
Yes
mild jackal
But for productivity and pure value on budget builds - go amd
digital kernel
Cheaper is almost certain
mild jackal
For all but the highest of end workstations
digital kernel
I'm thinking that there's also a decent chance that AMD might be able to beat out intl though on some titles though
vital cairn
ok
anyway i will wait
i am sure that the ampere will beat big navi tho
the 30XX will beat big navi
vital cairn
but i am not getting an 3000 series gpu
its gonna be rlly expensive
probably 2000$ cad
i am gonna go with a 2080 ti
or 2080 super
because i want to play at 240 hz 1 ms
and i am gonna need a good cpu for that
digital kernel
If you're only gaming, no point really in getting more than the 3600
tulip raft
Or 10600K
digital kernel
Can get a better gpu with the AMD option
tulip raft
Well what is his budget
tulip raft
Don’t you love when you start building new pc after 10 years and the ram you get is not working
digital kernel
yup
tulip raft
At first the ram wouldn’t work at its xmp setting and when the GPU was in it wouldn’t start. Next day it wouldn’t even start with or without.
Motherboard was also acting weird so I returned both ram and motherboard and new ram and same board is coming tmr
hollow thorn
I could say some 300$ board sooo
uncut hull
best cheapest board
uncut hull
i was looking at the tuff board but idk i dont like the yellow on it
i was looking at the Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
hollow thorn
Okay then MSI x570 Unify
long geyser
hope you have a 2080S or better
uncut hull
and why are some x470 boards more than x570?
long geyser
$200 extra on a board compared to $90 - $100 boards easily goes a long way for GPU
hollow thorn
Pricing is wack
uncut hull
no i have an asus strix 2070
uncut hull
cause i was on the wall of getting a 3600 or a ryzen 7
hollow thorn
Asus prime x570-p at ~150$ is where you should be looking at :p
uncut hull
so would a b450 work just fine for a 3600?
hollow thorn
Yes
uncut hull
but what b450 supports 3600mhz ram?
uncut hull
really?
hollow thorn
Ram speed is limited by CPU on ryzen
Not by motherboard
Intel limits it on lower end boards :p
uncut hull
i have another system with a ryzen 5 2600x and a msi b450 gaming pro carbon AC and when ever i go up to 3600 it crashes
ohhhh
i see
hollow thorn
Because the CPU is 2nd gen
uncut hull
so the cpu cant handle it
hollow thorn
I have that motherboard
uncut hull
makes sense now lol
hollow thorn
I'm running 3600mhz on my 3800x
uncut hull
yeah i was like wtf is going on
it says it supports it but makes sense now
so what is the point of the x570 or x470 boards
hollow thorn
x570 gives PCIe 4.0, and not too much else
uncut hull
so no real reason to get it over a b450...
hollow thorn
Not really unless you got cash to throw
But some are willing to pay the 30$ extra for lower end X570 boards for future proofing
uncut hull
i mean a 3600 with a b450 and an rtx 2070 should be good for a while right?
and ram at 3600mhz
@hollow thorn
hollow thorn
That's basically what I've got :p
I got a 2070, 3600mhz ram, 3800x on b450, I should last a good few years until it doesn't run games smoothly at ultra
GPU will likely be the bottleneck, until games can really use multi core performance
hollow thorn
Heh bottleneck is a bad word to be using
@uncut hull games usually become more and more graphically intensive, but still using somewhat near the same amount of the CPU
uncut hull
right i was just wondering what could be bottlenecking it
hollow thorn
So usually GPU becomes outdated first is what I'm saying
uncut hull
oh true
i hope a rtx 2070 should last a while since there arent many games with raytracing
plus dont most 1070s run games pretty well if not better than a 2060?
hollow thorn
1070 does the same or worse than 2060 iirc
hollow thorn
You can keep the B450 gaming pro carbon ac if you're upgrading your build
it's a good board
uncut hull
im building a separate pc for my bro
hollow thorn
kk
uncut hull
im upgrading mine and giving him my parts lol but some parts i cant give like my mobo lol
like im upgrading my cpu gpu
upgrading my cpu to a 3600 and my gpu to a 2070 from a 2600 cpu and a 2060 lol
wheat merlin
That ram worked btw, big diffrence in speed
last folio
has anyone seen or heard anything regarding 10900k's coming back into stock, been what 2-3 weeks since it dropped? been out of stock pretty much since then...
last folio
yeah, i get alot of stuff is topsy turby right now with all the stuff goin on, but i didnt think the i9's would sit out of stock for so long, especially being so expensive in comparison
trying to upgrade from my 9700k, and my fiancee offered to buy it for my birthday, getting the feeling it wont be in stock by then though
naive pendant
Hi @everyone, I am working on a side project to understand the impact of change in packaging for Intel processors. What do you guys think about the 10900k packaging compared to the 9900k?
It should light on fire easier.
vagrant mist
it should just come on fire
long geyser
out of the box thermals should be fire
vagrant mist
literally
split copper
Temps will be 💯
naive pendant
hello! I have an ASUS h310I-plus board and I need to enable RAID, but I'm not seeing anything for it
scarlet oriole
My mobo is blinking and idk what i did wrong. I used it a bit this morning and then wondered why i didnt have my 2tb, i then checked my storage and noticed it was unplugged. I plugged it in while it was off and then turned it on and it started blinking, so i turned it off and unplugged it. I turned it on again and it’s still blinking
What do i do here?
dusty hollow
Any motherboards in stock?
digital kernel
Pretty much nope
plush timber
ripjaw vs trident ?
hollow thorn
no real difference other than heatsink
charred venture
good AM3+ cpus?
digital kernel
naive pendant
Not sure why you'd even look at AM3+ at this point
digital kernel
That's from the age that AMD really was cheap trash
naive pendant
looks at FX-6300 running a full GHz over
finite elm
My brother still has an fx-6300 lol
naive pendant
So do I
brave oxide
When are Intel 10th gen chips being released?
naive pendant
When they will still be colossal failures.
deep vigil
pfffftt
charred venture
bruh i found an am3 mobo and 8 gb of ddr3 for 20$ in a case
wondering if i should get it
naive pendant
Any brand info?
naive pendant
RiP
brazen cradle
Anyone use this mobo before ? Is it bad for a ryzen 7 3700x . I prefer a mobo with a addressable rgb header and this board has only one
thick ledge
iirc 2
I do have that one
But no RGB
yet
I can share you my temps if you want (Ryzen5 3600)
brazen cradle
@thick ledge nice , so you don’t have any rgb or do you mean the board doesn’t come with a addressable rgb header
thick ledge
I don’t have any rgb on my build
brazen cradle
Ah ok , is your 3600 oc ?
brazen cradle
I saw a video and it came with one addressable rgb header and then on top they was a aura rgb header
Is the aura rgb header just a regular rgb header ?
thick ledge
Let me check asus’s page
brazen cradle
Ok thank u
thick ledge
It comes with 2 AURA RGB HEADERS
And 1 addressable gen 2 header
Maybe someone else could explain ut better for us
brazen cradle
Oh ok thanks . Yea I think aura rgb headers are just basic rgb headers but I could be wrong
humble dome
hey guys, do any of you have any thoughts on me getting this used: very good x570 motherboard? the question isn't really about the board itself, it's more of about the safety of buying a used motherboard that is labeled as "very good". im not super sure if i should get one
digital kernel
That's about the price that a new motherboard would usually be
humble dome
yeah and that's fine to me. it's only about $10 more than this board would normally retail more. none are in stock obviously bc of corona
and it doesn't say when they will be in stock again so i was curious if it's safe to get this used board
digital kernel
Could you not find any other options?
humble dome
for other motherboards?
digital kernel
Yeah
humble dome
there were other options, but because all x570 motherboards are out of stuck, the only ones are being sold are much more expensive ($350+)
humble dome
yeah i was thinking it would be ok. the only thing that im kinda concerned about is the return policy. it's not super clear
that's the thing holding me back from pulling the trigger^
this is the return policy
naive pendant
I really don't touch used tech unless I can test it.
humble dome
interesting
naive pendant
Yeah, without actually contacting them and asking, no way to know.
humble dome
alrighty
i just sent them a email
hopefully the motherboard doesn't sell before they respond ); but it probably will
edgy sequoia
Does anyone know how to find the dram pcb revision type? Typhoon burner doesn’t display this and shows like 00h or something
A0, A2 etc
Still needs testing
shy breach
edgy sequoia
@shy breach dont see why not
plush timber
hey guys. ripjawz vs tridentz?
naive pendant
Should i pair a 3700x with b450?
plush timber
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232920?item=N82E16820232920&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL061120&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL061120-_-EMC-061120-Index-_-DesktopMemory-_-20232920-S1A1D&ignorebbr=1 these vs these https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907
is it worth getting the tridentZ over the ripjaws?
actuallyi see the CL is slightly better on the ripjaw
mild jackal
Might have trouble getting it to run at 3200mhz because it's 1st gen, but you could always downclock.
plush timber
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907 yeah these i'm getting. were first mentioned to me by Mr111
deep vigil
@plush timber do you need 32 gbs of ram?
broken hazel
a gigabyte b450 aorus elite supports 3rd gen ryzen right
hollow thorn
should
quaint current
yeah it should come with the new bios, if it doesnt you can get a kit to flash it from amd
broken hazel
ok
awesome
cause i heard most b450s come with 3rd gen support but figured i would double check
@hollow thorn how are you not a techie you have helped me so many times
quaint current
theo doesnt like him
broken hazel
oh
broken hazel
i dont think that should determain your role i think how much you know and help should
hollow thorn
idk
broken hazel
hopefully someday
broken hazel
oh
plush timber
@deep vigil i think so. 16gb is the bare minimum for my trading software on 4 screens. Plus I play cod and gta sometimes
supple monolith
I say 32 is a good amount for the mid to high end desktop
plush timber
Yeah but combined with x570 mobo and ryzen 5 3600 I should be set for at least a few years lol. My current setup was built in 2015 with older Gen parts and still going
Oh and think you guys said an rmx650w corsair. All of it adds up unfortunately lol
plush timber
anyone have any input as to when things will be back in stock like this mobo i've been waitin gon for 2 months
split copper
nop
midnight pollen
your not alone, been waiting 4 months over here. Heard from a rep somewhere that there haven't shipments in a while
plush timber
so i'll hold off on buying the other parts then. dont want to buy it wait 6 months fo ra mobo then find out my stuff could have been on sale or next gen lol
fallen lynx
memtest86 still the best thing to check for bad RAM?
plush timber
theres a mem test built into windows i believe
gilded token
i have a i5 9400f
should i pay extra $30 for a z390 to get 3200 ram or get a b365 with 2666 ram
tulip raft
Pay the 30 more imo
keen arch
I have an AMD Athlon X4 ll 630 CPU is it worth upgrading to Phenom ll X4 9xx/9xxe/8xx Quad Core?
split copper
might be
they should be pretty cheap
go for something like the 955
it's 125 watt TDP though, so be sure the PSU can run it
keen arch
I want a powerful processor my motherboard can handle. How can I know the compatibility
split copper
what's the board model?
I have one of these with the 955, it doesn't say if it supports Phenom II X6 processors for example, but the X4 955 is fine of course http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=395
you can probably find your board model by
1 looking at your motherboard manual if you have it
2 looking at the motherboard itself and googling the sticker labels on it
3 using CPU-Z to identify
plush timber
can someone recommend a good mobo thats actually instock that isnt several hundred dollars? i have a 4 screen trade desk and play codmw. I'm buying ryzen 53600 ripjaws 32gb of ram with RX5700...
plush timber
I was planning on getting asus x570
fast sphinx
hey guys like to know ,im running a asrock b450m pro4 with the ryzen 5 2600 and is flash bios to p3.90 will the ryzen 5 3600 run on this motherboard
dusty sun
should i get x570 or wait for b550?
river linden
depends if you are about pcie 4.0
*care
@fast sphinx yes, i looked at that yesterday
plush timber
I'm seeing msi x570 for 800 then 200 shipping. What is going on? Should I just get a b540 and stop waiting? The psu I was going tog et is now out of stock too...
dusty sun
trident z neo or royal?
fresh plinth
Just how far can I push my corsair lpx sticks
The base speed is 2400
which is bad
But ive got it running at 2666
cl 15
Is pushing it any farther a good idea?
tulip talon
@hollow thorn should i gte a a320 board or a b450 for the build im douing with a 1200 and a 1060
tulip talon
to resell yea
yeah ok thats good i guess
i mean it was either asus prime a320 or asrock b450 hdv 4.0
fresh plinth
If it has all the features you want then go for it, just dont plan on overclocking much
fresh plinth
Then you're probobly good
warm path
I am wondering something. I have a dual-core Pentium and I am upgrading to an quad-core i7 both Cpu TDP is 35 watts. I was wondering if both will run at same temperature or the i7 will get hotter
tulip talon
@fresh plinth
hollow thorn
should be around the same with the same tdp
tulip talon
eh mr 11111 need help with what to choose plz
i had bad experiences with both lol
@hollow thorn
hollow thorn
Is it going to be your own build or someone else's
fresh plinth
Is there any risk to pushing my ram further, will i break something?
Or could i just clear cmos and be fine
tulip talon
Someone elses
warm path
@hollow thorn so your said it’s going to be about the same temp?
tulip talon
it will be soemone elses its a resell
tulip talon
ok
plush timber
I need to rethink this build... More stuff out of stock...
warm path
Ah ok
plush timber
Bout to buy ryzen 5 3600, the 32gb ram and a case. But wait on mobo and psu
tulip talon
ok thanks im getting one of those
warm path
So heat is not going to be an issue for me then right? @hollow thorn cuz that 35 watt Pentium runs at 35C idle and 67C max at load
clear birch
I'm getting a 32gb kit o RAM on tuesday, and I'm so excited.
warm path
Note i7 is 35 watt also
plush timber
Asrock any good?
hollow thorn
3600 ftw
hollow thorn
pcpp is bad
plush timber
What is that
Lol
Sorry I'm fairly basic with computers at this point
The original x570 you showed me in the part picker is out of stock and all other x570 are like 3 or 4 hundred
manic haven
just wait for them to restock, the TUF and Prime pro will be norm prices soon
plush timber
OK. So I'll order the ryzen and ram and case now
manic haven
i would , then scan ebay and tec sites for fathers day sales
manic haven
i would know what one is on the qvl yes
plush timber
Qvl
manic haven
qualified vendor list - memory list that the manufacture tests there product on and timing optimizes in some cases
plush timber
Oh how do I check that
manic haven
tells you the vi of the memory as well or the chip manufacture
plush timber
manic haven
yes as i said , tested and confermed by the manufacture ,
plush timber
But if I get that ram and the mobo I want I shouldn't get any failures or limitations? I mean should I not get the 28800
hollow thorn
28800???
manic haven
yea the what
plush timber
Pc4 28800
There's no way to share from the app
That's the ram I'm buying as per mr111's recommendation a few weeks ago
hollow thorn
3600mhz cl16 :P
manic haven
thoes will work w most mobos
plush timber
Lol yeah
hollow thorn
honestly idk where 28800 comes frim
manic haven
i do
plush timber
Lol
manic haven
its coo
plush timber
?
manic haven
just refur to them in there mkz not the timing
plush timber
OK
hollow thorn
coo?
plush timber
Yeah unsure if trident or ripjaws lol
manic haven
rips are cheaper but slower
plush timber
And this mobo is what I was thinking of using but will it limit or default to slower speed
manic haven
few sec and alot on the fps
plush timber
manic haven
royals and neos are bis for the 9 3600x
plush timber
Bis
manic haven
yep good board good price , norm see around 170-200 so anywhere in there i would get
best in slot
hollow thorn
bis?
plush timber
OK so the ripjaws and that mobo with ryzen 5 3600 should be a-okay to go for trading and cod?
manic haven
the neos see faster timing w oc but the royals get better fps
hollow thorn
Well ripjaws and tridents at same spec are the exact same
it all depends on the spec
plush timber
Ah
hollow thorn
"ripjaw" and "trident z neo" etc only really identify the heatsink on the ram
plush timber
Hmm
hollow thorn
if its just a black block or does it have rgb on it yaknow
plush timber
Yeah I don't cars about rgb stuff
hollow thorn
and no AM4 boards limit ram speed
plush timber
That montech case I'll probably add another fan or cooler
manic haven
all ripjaws are not rgb and all neo are rgb 😛
plush timber
Ahh
manic haven
the vi is the only diff and you can tell off the timmings
16-16-16-32 is samsung
16-19-19-39 is tk
the price reflects it
quaint current
@hollow thorn pc4 means the number of bits transferred per second 3600x8=28800
also some 16-19-19 might be low binned b die
plush timber
Ahhh gotcha
hollow thorn
no
plush timber
What
plush timber
What is low binned b die lol
manic haven
skhynix-C die
quaint current
dunno they have 18-19-19-39 kits that are b die
hollow thorn
don't think so
quaint current
older kits
hollow thorn
its like 3200cl14, 3600cl16, 4000cl16
manic haven
no only 18-22-22-42
quaint current
manic haven
and they are c die as well
quaint current
thats b die
quaint current
yeah its all old stuff
manic haven
samsug c die/skhynix cdie/d die / jdie
but not b
b is norm lower
the 14s and 16s
quaint current
ya cause thats the early b die where they couldnt bin it well
manic haven
samsung b die is the best you can get imo
but runs about 100$ more
the 14 is 3600/14=15=15=35 2t
quaint current
bruh tf is this ram
plush timber
Lol
quaint current
yeah but it looks terrible
hollow thorn
soo yea
plush timber
Is ddr4 3600 worth having over 3200 if I'm not a heavy user?
quaint current
for ryzen 3000 i'd say the $10-20 is worth it
plush timber
OK
manic haven
yes
manic haven
head to head the 3600 even at slower timing is faster then most 3200
plush timber
Ohhh
quaint current
yeah cause of the IF speeds
plush timber
I don't have to oc any of this right? Lol
manic haven
even the very fast 14s were beat out by the 18s
hollow thorn
Not really?
manic haven
you will have to enable it
manic haven
in bios
hollow thorn
iirc 3200cl16 and 3600cl18 are the exact latency
manic haven
mobo stock is 3200
plush timber
Well crap
quaint current
@hollow thorn the if is higher for 3600, with tuning they would be closer or equal
plush timber
How do I go about doing that? Or rather maybe I should check back once I get it built
manic haven
you can put it to the test and google the results for fps there is a huge differance , often 30-40 fps
hollow thorn
Also usually mobo default is 2166mhz
quaint current
okay dunno about 40fps
hollow thorn
but effective speed is the same between 3200cl16 and 3600cl18
plush timber
OK
quaint current
@hollow thorn 3200cl14 and 3600cl16 are equal because the 100mhz higher IF on the 3600, without the IF 3200cl14 would be faster
mild jackal
lol that amd chart caused so much consusion
Because they didn't specify that 3733 involved an IF overclock
hollow thorn
2:1 just gets wacky
quaint current
2:1 lame
jolly pond
ok i have the B450M-DS3H gigabyte motherboard, and a ryzen 7 2700. Can i get a samsung 970 evo to work with it?
quaint current
yea
manic haven
BUT 0 LOSS
jolly pond
idk thats one of the main big nvme ssds
manic haven
its all on youtube for everyone to see , i cant link it just google it and watch
jolly pond
and its in stock
hollow thorn
both were in stock when I checked like 30min ago
jolly pond
which one is the best one
hollow thorn
SN750 and MP34 are both very good in terms of specs
jolly pond
i can also get a 500gb 970 evo plus and have it super fast
hollow thorn
so expensive tho
same speeds
I don't see the reason to spend like 30$ more on a 500gb drive for practically no difference in speeds
jolly pond
ig
hollow thorn
unless you can get a 970evo at 70$, mp34/sn750 ftw
jolly pond
500gb 970 evo seems like a pretty good bang for your buck tho
and a similar price price to the sn750
oh wait nvm
its way cheaper
well for 500gb 970 evo is better
because the sn750 is more expensive there
hollow thorn
wdym
970evo 500gb is 100$
mp34 512gb is 70$
sn750 500gb is 70$
@jolly pond until you find 970 evo at 70$, don't
digital kernel
idk. We don't do intel here
rose sonnet
....
rose sonnet
How much
hollow thorn
same price msrp
rose sonnet
ok
rose sonnet
f*** AMD
hollow thorn
bruh
digital kernel
Why?
rose sonnet
cause
hollow thorn
...
digital kernel
You're gonna have to give a reason here
rose sonnet
no
hollow thorn
something like 80% of this server's builds uses AMD
so yaknow
we have our reasons for using AMD
rose sonnet
gib me one good reason to use AMD
hollow thorn
Cheap
rose sonnet
.................
hollow thorn
Higher core count
rose sonnet
..........................,
hollow thorn
Lower TDP and heat
digital kernel
It's cheap, it uses less power, it's faster than intel
rose sonnet
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
hollow thorn
Faster in multi-core tasks
hollow thorn
depends on what you do
digital kernel
Also what your budget is
hollow thorn
if you do anything other than gaming, AMD Ryzen 3950x
rose sonnet
Im goign for all gaming and searching
hollow thorn
Only reason to go Intel is if you have money to throw away and only playing games
rose sonnet
ok
hollow thorn
if you answer yes to both questions, congrats, intel
rose sonnet
yes for only games
rose sonnet
maybe
digital kernel
We're looking at 2000-4000 here
rose sonnet
take of the 2 zeros at the end of 2000
digital kernel
20?
rose sonnet
Yes
lol
Rn i just want to upgrade PSU
Then change the case
To a
Taller and larger case
Glass
digital kernel
Okay. How much are you planning on saving for the main system?