#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 111

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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gigabyte

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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eh good nuff I guess

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I wonder

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3600 with good ram might beat 9400f

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but when are you buying upgrades?

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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i got time

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no need to upgrad enow

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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okay good

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what ssd do you have

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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hyperx ddr4

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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..?

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Hyperx fury ssd?

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because if you have that...

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📎 unknown.png

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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so everything is garbage 😄

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i need to throw this pc and get another one

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i guess

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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that's the only SSD I've ever seen the category say garbage lol

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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AHAHAHAH

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could you maybe send me that graph

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

SSDs

Master List

Brand,Model,Interface,Form Factor,Capacities,Controller,Configuration,DRAM,HMB,NAND Brand,NAND Type,2D/3D NAND,Layers,R/W (Up to, in MB/s),Categories,Notes (*),Product Page,Product Page 2,Amazon Affiliate Link,Amazon Price (Coming Soon)
ADATA,Falcon,x4 PCIe 3.0/NV...

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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any graphs for cpus and gpus ?

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mb i learn

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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the only other ssds that are garbage are WD Green, SX6000 (never heard of it), HP S600 (never heard of it), and l5 lite 2d

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cpus and gpus are

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really wacky when you try to compare them

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because you can't just compare frequency on cuda cores to frequency on rdna cores

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so specs comparison doesn't really help

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:30 PM

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What ssd u have

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:30 PM

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me? I got mp510

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:31 PM

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nice

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so what do you think of a cpu and motherboard i should buy

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Either continue intel, which gets messy

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or go AMD, good b450 board, 3600, and better 2x8gb ram

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thats cheap tho

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you can prof afford going the messy route

split copper Jun 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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there's a few other SSDs under Garbage

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could probably get rid of the LEDs to prevent overheating as well 👀

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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just 5?

split copper Jun 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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just 5 I guess

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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green is trash I know that, l5 2d is trash

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others I dont know

split copper Jun 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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thank goodness it's not like 50% trash on the market

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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what do you mean with messy route

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:36 PM

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expensive

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:36 PM

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ah I don't mind as long as im getting alot more power

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:36 PM

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like it's 400$ for a good upgrade to AMD, 3600+ram+motherboard

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intel eh

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like 9700k+z390 board+ram is 600$+

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:p

tacit hemlock Jun 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Smh my head intel

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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if you already had a z390 board upgrading intel makes sense

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but b360 not good

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(I'm including ram costs because single stick of 16gb 2666mhz ram isn't good)

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:38 PM

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can someone help me get the right memory for my asus maximus hero wifi motherboard?

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:38 PM

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shall i get two 8 gb rams

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Yes

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:38 PM

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or get another 16\

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:39 PM

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@compact sun budget?

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well when you mix match ram, it's limited by the slowest stick

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and your slowest stick is 2666mhz :p

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:39 PM

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ah ok i get it

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thanks

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:39 PM

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this is good
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

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for if you go either any ryzen boards or intel z boards

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:41 PM

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well i bought 984542 CORSAIR 16GB 2X8 D4 3600 C18 RGB 1

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cmw16gx4m2d3600c18 is whats on the box

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that from micro center after they told me it was right but its not on the "asus list"

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and will only clock at 1066

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:42 PM

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qvl

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check the asus QVL

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also which asus maximus hero wifi

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z390?

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) (LGA1151)

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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yea z390

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why is asus website so slow lmao

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i just want rgb lights that work 🙂

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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okay so you only need 16gb of ram?

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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32

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Ima look for 3600mhzcl16 on the list
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/ROG_MAXIMUS_XI_HERO/ROG_MAXIMUS_XI_HERO_SERIES_Memory_QVL_0225.pdf

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oh 32gb

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alright

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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im dislexic and .... have been tryin for months to get the right stuff, about to give up cause i keep getting the wrong ones.....

digital kernel Jun 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yeah, part numbers really don't help with that, do they?

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:47 PM

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god damn qvl

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so wack

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:50 PM

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thanks @hollow thorn

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:52 PM

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ya thanks 🙂

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:52 PM

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one more thing

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in my country the 3600 and 3600x are same price

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what do u recommend

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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im moving to your country!

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😄

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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3600x

clear coral Jun 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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pls dont

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its lebanon

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🙂

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thanks

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:55 PM

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so...how do ya know if its rgb? have to check each one individually?

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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honestly

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it doesn't need to be on the qvl

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you can test the sticks you already bought

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qvl is a small list they tested

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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well....every time i change it to 1600, it reboots into safe mode

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i dont know what ta do

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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oh

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dunno then

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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😦 ima bout ready to put a brick in it and send it to the bottom of the ocean!

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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rip

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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speccy sees it as...

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32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (18-22-22-42)

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i guess it wont hurt nothin to just run it like it is will it?

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Wait so when you run XMP it fails?

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Also speccy isn't seen as the most accurate thing... But it works I guess

midnight pollen Jun 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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speccy i hear?

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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If you just set a frequency if might have wrong subtimings

midnight pollen Jun 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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oh nvm i was thinking of something else peepoSadSip

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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So xmp profile is usually a good bet

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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ya thats the only one that comes up automatically

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it works xmp, dont work when i set it manually go 1600

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Yea set xmp

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There should be multiple profiles

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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nope just the one

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ive already tried resetting it....

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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One is usually at like 2133 one at advertised speeds

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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hmm...maybe i should see if there is a mb bios update..

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Have you tried to contact Corsair support
I've heard their support is really bad right now so maybe don't?

split copper Jun 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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lol

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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nos but asus told me "its not on the list, cant help ya"

tacit hemlock Jun 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Rly bad support rn

split copper Jun 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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maybe they turned into

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pirate ship instead of corsair

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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thinkin bout just going to an msi board 🙂

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Lol but Asus can't help you anyways, seems to be a ram issue

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So so what exactly does the xmp profile say

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Like whar frequency and timings

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i dont know let me reboot and take a pic 🙂 brb

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ok whatcha wanna know?

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg 📎 image2.jpg

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yes... darth vador is staring at olof in the back ground....who hung himself cause it is summer now....:)

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Lol

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Weird

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:16 PM

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ya i know right!

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:16 PM

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The xmp profile is correct

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I wonder if speccy is just reading it wrong

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Because if you have it set to xmp

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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so just run it like it is and.....hope it dont crash?

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Just run it as is

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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pretty lights 🙂

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Indeed

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I'm just gonna have some fun with memory tuning now :p

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90% chance I'll screw it up and have to reset cmos

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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ya ive done that 2ce already....

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anyway, thanks for the help

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:21 PM

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So did it boot?

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Anyways CPUz is a good utility for checking CPU stuff and ram stuff

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:26 PM

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i got the asus memory tweak it program, but...i dont know how ta use ut

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it*

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Never heard of that lol

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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mem tweakit

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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So did it boot up correctly with xmp profile?

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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ya thats what i been usuing

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it just sees it as 2166 i guess

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Can you get CPUz running

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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whish is the memory i had in it before i put this in

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Because speccy could just be being bad

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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ya its running

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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What does it say

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Can you screenshot?

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In the memory tab

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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📎 memory_4_june20.png

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Oh that's weird

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So it's only running 2133 for some reason when xmp says 3600

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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seems to be

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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XMP isn't enabled

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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?

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Forks is there a different place in Asus bios to enable bios?

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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well.....

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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enable XMP? yes lol

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Or "DOCP"

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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God damn it lol

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Usually it's right next to where it says xmp

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:38 PM

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might you be a little more specific ? 🙂

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I don't have an Asus board, I have no idea where it is in the bios lol
look around maybe

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Guesssing you have intel so probably under "ai overclock tuner" options drop-down menu

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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there is a bios upgrade....

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for april of this year....

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alright, ill go look again

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 8:14 PM

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well that was interesting...

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i put it in auto xmp and set it to 3466 and it rebooted and see's it at 1733 mhz

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Interesting

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 8:17 PM

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ill play a few games and see how stable is it

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🙂 thanks for the help 🙂

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

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3466 really means 3466 mega transfers per second - MT/s -

The dram frequency is half of that at 1733 because ddr4 transfers data twice during each clock cycle.

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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dual channel memory, got it

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Nothing to do with dual channel

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DDR = double data rate

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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oh

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Dual channel will double the usable bandwidth though

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Each channel is a 64 bit wide bus

compact sun Jun 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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apparenlty there was a cupid rog cpu z

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on here 🙂

dusty sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:11 PM

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what ram brand is best for amd? I have heard that trident z neo is optimised.

plain bay Jun 4, 2020, 9:12 PM

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i got a question

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also @dusty sun im using g flare x its good

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anyways i got a question

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can i mix 2 ram sticks that are the same with another 2 ram sticks that are different from the original 2 but same between themselves

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both are ddr4

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first set are 3200MHz CL14 and the other are 3200MHz CL16

dusty sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:14 PM

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is it a dual channel motherboard?

plain bay Jun 4, 2020, 9:15 PM

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let me check

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yes

mild jackal Jun 4, 2020, 9:17 PM

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3200 cl14 flarex is high bin b-die

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3200 cl16 flarex is not, but isn't terrible

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Will likely have to run all 4 at 3200 cl16

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 9:19 PM

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When mix matching, ram run as slow as the slowest stick

fast sphinx Jun 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

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ok guys hope im in the right channel im a old guy in 67 yrs old and like to find out if i can use the same asrock b450m pro motherboard on a ryzen 5 2600 and want to up grade to the 3600 ryzen with it work my board flash to p3.60 bios

upbeat lichen Jun 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

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yeah, as long as you have the most recent bios, it will have 3000 series support, so you can use the same board

fast sphinx Jun 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

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thanks 4 your help

winged stream Jun 4, 2020, 10:36 PM

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hey so the only b450 board that looks decent that’s in stock rn is the asus strix b450-f gaming and i was wondering if there was any major problems with it

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 10:39 PM

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none

winged stream Jun 4, 2020, 11:01 PM

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okay i’m gonna buy it now before it’s not in stock

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and one more question, i have 4 case fans and obviously the cpu cooler, is this enough headers?

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it looks like 5 to me but i’m not sure

hollow thorn Jun 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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ye

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aio pump can be used for fans

upbeat lichen Jun 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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yar

winged stream Jun 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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alrighty thank you

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alright it’s sold out now, incredible

winged stream Jun 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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alright so basically i can back order the asrock b450 steel legend, is that one good?

upbeat lichen Jun 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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i've heard only good stuff about it myself

digital kernel Jun 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Same here

winged stream Jun 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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ordered

devout mothBOT Jun 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Loopus#1925 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

half phoenix Jun 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Bruh

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Help

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Please

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I’ve built many PCs before and I have no idea what’s wrong. It’s acting like it’s not even plugged in. I don’t know what to do. I’ve even tried a whole new psu. My last thought is the mobo. Help

urban ferry Jun 5, 2020, 1:13 AM

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describe the issue

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 1:14 AM

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EXPLAIN YOURSELF @half phoenix

half phoenix Jun 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Sorry guys

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It just started working for zero reason

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I did nothing and it’s fine now lmao

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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lol

naive pendant Jun 5, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Probably a loose connection somewhere

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Why cant I post pic

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:30 AM

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You need to have a blue name

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You can post in build pics for now

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:31 AM

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any blue

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I suppose we should say anything besides gray now though

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeye

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:44 AM

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But its about wam

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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That's fine

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Oookay

mild jackal Jun 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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@wheat merlin go ahead

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Oh thanks

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Of course he turns blue now 🙂

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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forky gave blue

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Gotcha

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Thanks fork

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Are these compatible?

📎 Screenshot_20200604-212820_Discord.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20200604-212849_Chrome.jpg

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Are they both ddr4 I assume?

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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compatible together?

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Yes

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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They both seem to be 2400MHz, any ideas how to find timing?

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Umm no

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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both non-ecc

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Its it in mem in task man

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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one is cl17

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the other is...

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cl17

mild jackal Jun 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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288 pin is ddr4

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Yay!

hollow thorn Jun 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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yea they should work fine

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prob just a die difference

wheat merlin Jun 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Ok cool

half phoenix Jun 5, 2020, 3:26 AM

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@winged stream where did you get your pfp

steep temple Jun 5, 2020, 3:27 AM

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@half phoenix change yours!

half phoenix Jun 5, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Nah nah I’m asking because I think it looks like a kid that might go to my Highschool

steep temple Jun 5, 2020, 3:28 AM

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but still

winged stream Jun 5, 2020, 3:37 AM

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he’s a kid that goes to my school @half phoenix

steep temple Jun 5, 2020, 3:37 AM

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ok

polar fern Jun 5, 2020, 6:18 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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I ordered a Micro ATX case and a Micro ATX mobo but the standoffs look like they won’t match

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anyone got any ideas if i could do something or would i just have to return the case

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https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-Promontory-CrossFireX-Motherboard/dp/B07MV9BMNY

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thats the one i ordered

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it doesnt seem to fit from looking at both images unless im wrong

supple monolith Jun 5, 2020, 6:26 AM

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If they don't fit then one of the two was falsely advertised

polar fern Jun 5, 2020, 6:26 AM

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darkFlash Micro ATX Mini ITX Tower MicroATX Computer Case with Magnetic Design Wide Open Door Opening Swing Type Tempered Glass Side Panel (DLM21 Black)

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thats the name

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I thought that would mean Micro atx no?

supple monolith Jun 5, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Yeah... Maybe you have to rearrange standoffs or something?

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I would check the manual

polar fern Jun 5, 2020, 6:27 AM

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rearrange, as in make holes n stuff?

supple monolith Jun 5, 2020, 6:28 AM

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As in unscrew some of them if your manual says to do so

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I'd wait till you get em

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See if it works

polar fern Jun 5, 2020, 6:29 AM

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alright

supple monolith Jun 5, 2020, 6:29 AM

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If either doesn't work you have very a valid reason to return

polar fern Jun 5, 2020, 6:29 AM

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hopefully all goes well doe

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yea it would

clear brook Jun 5, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Hey y'all, I'm going from an i5 9600k to a Ryzen 7 3700X, and I currently have 2x8gb ram @ 3000mhz. I was wondering if I should buy a pack of 2x8gb @ 3600mhz or just buy 2 more sticks of 8gb @ 3000mhz, any advice?

split copper Jun 5, 2020, 8:00 AM

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I'd personally go with 3600MHz

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reason being, Zen2 speedy n stuf

clear brook Jun 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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You right you right

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Zen 2 do go zoom zoom

mild jackal Jun 5, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Why the downgrade?

deep vigil Jun 5, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Might be doing editing

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Or more workstation

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Chopsticks in why would you say its a downgrade?

clear brook Jun 5, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Lmao downgrade

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Yeah recently started streaming and want to get into video editing

woven whale Jun 5, 2020, 9:27 AM

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does anyone know if the MSI X570 Gaming Plus supports NVMe SSDs?

gritty patio Jun 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I would it does lmao

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Being an x570

finite elm Jun 5, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Yeah. I was assuming that too

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Wait, what's this shade of regular mean!

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Oh I see

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They switched regular to a different color

tulip talon Jun 5, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I hate that the pins didn’t work on the mb

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Even with the screwdriver it wouldn’t turn on

split tendon Jun 5, 2020, 2:30 PM

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i am trying to determine if this mb will support Ryzen 3800x? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-ax370-gaming-5/p/N82E16813128992?Item=N82E16813128992

tacit hemlock Jun 5, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Is that the motherboard you currently have?

quaint current Jun 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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it should but might be subpar compared to newer boards with support

tacit hemlock Jun 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Also, it won't support it out of box. Needs a bios update for sure

quaint current Jun 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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might not get all the bios’s as fast as the new boards

split tendon Jun 5, 2020, 2:45 PM

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thanks guys. found Gigabyte's support info https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-5-rev-10/support#support-cpu

steep temple Jun 5, 2020, 2:56 PM

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nice

ashen trench Jun 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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i have 16 bg ram and its only using 8 gbs anyway to use 16?

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

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What's only using 8gb?

naive pendant Jun 5, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Hehehehehehe she's heerrreeee!!!!!!

fresh plinth Jun 5, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Niceee

narrow siren Jun 5, 2020, 9:29 PM

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i only have 4gb of ram available according to task manager. how do i increase that??

fresh plinth Jun 5, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Laptop or desktop?

narrow siren Jun 5, 2020, 9:30 PM

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desktop

fresh plinth Jun 5, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Well then a ram upgrade is easy

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Do you have any RAM slots open?

narrow siren Jun 5, 2020, 9:31 PM

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yea i do, and i’m planning on upgrading it soon

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but i still want it all to be in use u till i can upgrade

dusty sun Jun 5, 2020, 9:35 PM

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is an x570 mobo worth it?

fresh plinth Jun 5, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Ohhh.... well a few things you can do to decrease your RAM usage disable things that you dont need from opening on startup, and make sure you dont have any apps that are taking up more then they should

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how much total ram do you have?

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@dusty sun What cpu are you looking at?

dusty sun Jun 5, 2020, 9:38 PM

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3800

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 9:38 PM

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3800 or 3800x?

dusty sun Jun 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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3800x

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Overclocking or no?

dusty sun Jun 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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if and when i get an aio yes

digital kernel Jun 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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https://i.redd.it/2iwdy5wrrly31.png

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There's the right link

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b450 would be really streyching it for most of the mobos

burnt totem Jun 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Should I get 3600 for my first build or 9700K. I want to game on squad.

mild jackal Jun 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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10600k, 9700k - great picks

burnt totem Jun 5, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Okay but do I need better cooling than just a fan

quaint current Jun 5, 2020, 10:57 PM

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yeah a cpu cooler or aio

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 12:52 AM

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3600 probably beats 9700k and is cheaper, no?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 12:53 AM

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no

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I'd get a Noctua D15 or something for it.

If you like RGB/AIO - those are fine too.

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 12:55 AM

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.....

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Bout the same I guess

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3600x does bench better though

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At about 40% the MSRP

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so......

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I'd recommend the 3600x

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 12:58 AM

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9700k can drive faster memory with about half the latency.

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For the average user - probably doesn't matter.

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But if you want the better gaming chip - 9700k.

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Costs 140% more though

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 12:59 AM

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If people ask for the best value cpu - I always say 3600.

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or 3900x

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Or 10600k

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:01 AM

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What sort of improvement would the 9700k see over the 3600x in games?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Mainly better .1%ile and 1%ile lows.

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Assuming each side has an "optimal" ram setup

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e.g.
3600mhz cl14 for amd, 4133 cl16 or equivalent on intel

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Unrelated question, why does intel list the 9700k for having support up to 2666MHz?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:05 AM

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because that's the baseline JDEC memory spec

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Okay

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:07 AM

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The 9900k's IMC is stronger, and 11th gen even better yet - but it was still decent enough to run 4133 17 18 18 38 cr1 - but took 1.325v / 1.38v vccsio/vccsa

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Which is kinda high

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:07 AM

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And AMD can't support memory that fast?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:07 AM

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You can - but but you can run the FCLK much over 1800mhz, 1900 is doable on some chips - so you could run ram at 3800mhz and still keep it at 1:1 between dram clock and fabric clock

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If you run dram:fclk in asynchronous mode - you'd have to aim for like 4800 mhz or something stupid, not practical

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Same with 2:1 mode

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:09 AM

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having IF in 2:1 isn't super beneficial iirc

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:09 AM

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It's detrimental

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:09 AM

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o

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:09 AM

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So basically, the ram clock speeds should work in tandem with the CPU clock speed, and since intel has higher clock, they can run faster ram?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Not related to the cpu core clock

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AMD's zen2 architecture uses an "infinity fabric" to move data between the cores and the main memory

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That fabric can't run faster than 1800mhz stock, or 1900mhz with an optimistically high OC

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Gotcha

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:11 AM

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So 3600 mhz memory is really 1800mhz dram frequency, and that lets you run fclk 1:1 with dram freq

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Zen1, and zen+ don't use this system, yet had weaker memory controllers

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:12 AM

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So the next gen infinity fabric should allow faster memory speeds?

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:12 AM

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i think they said something about better memory

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Maybe - I mean, this is the first generation with this new architecture

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I do stress that the difference in "intel is better for gaming" really only applies to the most nitpicky, diehard enthusiasts who also have deep pockets.

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:14 AM

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ya bc with the money saved with a lower tier amd chip you can get a better gpu which is better for performance

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:14 AM

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That said, Intel xeon still runs circles around anything threadripper in avx512 workloads

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:14 AM

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like the 3300x or 3600

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Also much higher max memory capacity

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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arent the high end xeons hard to find in stock rn?

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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xeon's a server chip though. Shouldn't you be comparing it to epyc?

dim coral Jun 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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technically yes technically no

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Yes and no, xeon workstation chips like the W-3175x still have the xeon name.

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Xeon platinums like the 8180 can be run in a normal socket 3467 workstation board

dim coral Jun 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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it comes down to are you the same person to compare prices and say the 10600k should be compared to the 3700x

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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And you can run two of them

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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You can run two epycs too

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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of course

dim coral Jun 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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isnt there only one board that can do that though?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:17 AM

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There are plenty of dual socket epyc boards out there

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Heck, in servers, you're usually running dozens if not hundreds of CPUs

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Depends, but ya - 8 processor xeon machines are still a thing.
quad socket AMD has been dead since piledriver

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I bought one for memes off ebay and it's a space heater

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:18 AM

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i have such a strong desire to build an old dual/quad CPU system as like a home server

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but i don't need to serve anything

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:18 AM

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With the epycs having as many cores as they do, I'm not sure how useful it would be to have more than two on one node

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:18 AM

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and my wife would kill me if i brought even more hardware home lol

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:19 AM

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quad opteron lel https://i.imgur.com/4ggPVl1.jpg

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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That's a lot of ECC

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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love it

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lol

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each stick is probably what, 1/2gb?

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if it's an opteron system

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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4GB each, ecc fbdimm ya

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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oh snap 4gb

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ballin

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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That's a lot of ram

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Opteron 6378's

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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How much total ram on the node?

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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96GB total?

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across everything

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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128?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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It was all cheap, this stuff all went from obsolete to even more obsolete once epyc showed up

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Yes 128

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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oh right, derp

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24 per node

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wow i can't brain

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32 per node

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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How many cores you got there?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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16GB per numa node

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Since each chip is dual 8 core dies

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Wait, two cpus in a single numa node?

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:22 AM

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32 per CPU, 16 per numa node

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:22 AM

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No, I did that backwards, didn't I

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Two numa nodes per CPU

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That makes a lot more sense

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yeah

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:23 AM

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The chips look like https://i.imgur.com/5pIpvZa.jpg

Imgur

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I take a lot of pictures lol https://i.imgur.com/QNWbY3K.jpg

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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16 core, 16 thread, 2 octa-core dies per CPU

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those things were beastmode

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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$15 each on ebay lol

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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how the mighty have fallen lol

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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i think the 6378's were 1k new or so lol

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Okay, this thing is looking to still stack up to a pretty decent cluster if you can find enough of them

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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yeah, i had a buddy who originally built his home server as dual Athlon MP's, later upgraded to dual Opteron

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Except that they pull 200 watts load non OC'd lol

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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and he spent a TON on the Opteron setup

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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and 300 ish at 3.2GHz bclk oc'd

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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200 watts from a single CPU or the whole board?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Per cpu

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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So the board takes almost 1kW

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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base TDP on those was 115W i think

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Well, more like 140W per CPU at 2.7

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:26 AM

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So 600ish watts

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Trying to think what our nodes draw

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:26 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/2mh0kEp.png

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I think it's like 250W max for a 32 thread node

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It's still comparable I'd say

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They've got less ram per core though, which is an oof

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:27 AM

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so yeah, 800W max but average of a little under 600W

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that's nuts

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:27 AM

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This was on win 10 pro, so only 32 cores https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21189610

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Why did you put windows on that thing

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I did when I first got it for benchmarks/fun

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Doesn't windows license per the core on servers though?

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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I think they used to - I just used win 10 server datacenter edition

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Okay

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We are uncreative and just use (drumroll)........

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CentOS

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Nothing wrong with that

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I ran the newegg minecraft server on centos baremetal

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Also, we need singularity for our use case, so it would have to be some sort of Linux

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:35 AM

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there's a full 2U quad opteron blade, everything minus ram/storage on ebay for $475 which seems like a lot for that

tulip raft Jun 6, 2020, 1:48 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695369973551464449/718642291551764480/image1.jpg got my temporary cpu waiting for i9 to come in stock and psu today

short oar Jun 6, 2020, 1:54 AM

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what cpu and memory should i get if i have an 800 dollar budget

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:56 AM

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what are you going ot use the system for?

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straight gaming? streaming as well? workstation stuff?

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:56 AM

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AMD

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:57 AM

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^

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ryzen 5 3600 is where i'd start

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Any good intel will eat up too much budget

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:57 AM

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falls into that sweet spot of cost/performance

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Unless the 2700x goes on sale for $160 again

upbeat lichen Jun 6, 2020, 1:58 AM

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and RAM, you'll want at least 16GB, 2 8GB sticks, 3200-3600mhz in speed, depending on the better deal you can find at the time

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can probably find a set for between 70-80 bucks

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Maybe 60 if you're lucky

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 2:07 AM

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yuh 3600cl16 is like 83 rn

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 2:08 AM

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KermitVader Buy 3200cl14 or equivalent and set manual clocks/timings

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 2:09 AM

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wow forks recommending 3200cl14 over 3600cl16

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Ya, it's a higher bin

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3600 16 16 16 36 is low bin b-die at best

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3600 16 18 18 38 could be Micron Rev.E , Hynix MFR or something else

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yuh

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team group dark pro ftw

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 2:13 AM

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There are certainly other, (and better) bins of b-die than 3200cl14 - I just recommend that often because people can run it XMP for decent 100% guaranteed to work performance, yet still have the potential to manual OC to 4133 cl16 later or w/e

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 2:16 AM

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true

tulip raft Jun 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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i bought 2 of these https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232903

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There coming Sunday

neat glacier Jun 6, 2020, 3:14 AM

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*they're

crisp condor Jun 6, 2020, 4:58 AM

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amd or intel for the $300 price range for cpu

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@ me so i get a notification

hollow thorn Jun 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Gotta keep motherboard price in mind :p

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I'd say 10600k if you ignore motherboard price

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 2:13 PM

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z490 prices are like when x570 was new, eventually they'll be lower but pretty high rn for low to mid tier cpus

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Why 10600k though when you could get a 3700x for the same price?

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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10600k has better performance than even the 3950x usually

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 3:56 PM

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3950x out performs a 1660s

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 3:57 PM

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i think he was talking about gaming, or thats what i assumed

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Never said

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 3:57 PM

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usually people are, i just assume it unless otherwise stated

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 3:58 PM

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There are a decent number of people here that do gaming and such-and-so too

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 3:58 PM

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true but the 10600k is still decent at other things, not as good as the 3700x but better in gaming

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I'm usually of the opinion that sure intel has maybe a 5fps lead right now, but AMD is so much cheaper you might as well just go AMD and get better GPU/ram

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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ya

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 4:00 PM

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The 3600x is extremely comparable to 10600k in the benchmarks, and leaves you an extra $120 for the rest of the build

quaint current Jun 6, 2020, 4:01 PM

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usually its a lot more than 5fps, but i tell them to get a cheaper cpu and better gpu https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3592-intel-i5-10600k-cpu-review-benchmarks-ryzen-5-3600-et-al

Intel i5-10600K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. Ryzen 5 3600, i9-10900K...

Right after we said that an AMD R3 CPU is “enough for gaming,” stealing the old Intel mantra from many generations ago, Intel decided to launch its 10-series CPUs. Intel calls this “10th Gen,” but in reality, it’s the nth Gen of a long-standing architecture. We’ve lost count a...

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yeah, a big issue with a lot of the comparison benchmarks is that they use the same hardware for the rest of the system, which is a bit unfair to AMD. In the real world, the AMD system would be able to have slightly better specs on the rest of the hardware

timid ice Jun 6, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I just got an email from Newegg with the 10900k on it. Was this just in stock for like 20 minutes and sold out already today? lol

clear walrus Jun 6, 2020, 7:54 PM

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what would be a better cpu to go with my 2060 super a 3600 or a 3300x

hollow thorn Jun 6, 2020, 8:02 PM

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depends on budget and price

clear walrus Jun 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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are they about the same? and if i am willing to spend more for the 3600 is it worth it?

gritty patio Jun 6, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Yeah kinda

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Benchmarks wise no

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But gaming wise yes

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But my pre-order got pushed back so I canceled and got a 3600 from Bestbuy

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Anyone know motherboards that have ARGB headers with good vrm , I have a 3700x. I prefer a board under 200

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Motherboards don't have vram

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Sorry, what’s the word I’m thinking of , regards cooling

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VRM?

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:03 PM

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That would make more sense

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Sorry

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:03 PM

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No prob

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For a "good" mobo, you're probably looking at an x570

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Problem is they're all out of stock right now

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Do I need to spend the extra cash on a x570 tho

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:04 PM

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For good vrm, probably. It's usually not that much more expensive for a good x570 compared to a goof b450

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Hm , how much would you think the x570 board that fits my needs would cost ?

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Prefer less than 200$

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Right now? who knows. Usually you could get one for $140-$180

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ah ok that’s perfect

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But yea the stock rn for those boards is sadly very low

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:07 PM

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b550 will be put soon, one of those might work

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Do you know a specific x570 board with a ARGB header and Vrm

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b550 will be put soon, one of those might work
What do you mean by that , aren’t b550 already released or are they out of stock aswell

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:08 PM

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b450 is out, b550 should be here soon

brazen cradle Jun 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Oh I thought the b550 was already out , there m nor familiar with mobos yet so my bad

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Maybe they are and I just missed it... let me check

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I literally cant find anyone on YouTube doing builds on the tif b450 pro lol

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Tuf*

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yeah, probably not

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Linus might

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:25 PM

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That's channel name?

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Linus tech tips

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Ok

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I'm from the future and I can play crysis 69

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Your specs are questionable

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Nope never

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Has intel really held onto the core line that long?

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yes sir Andy Bryant left at 2025

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I'm I missing something about the asus tuf pro gaming b450?

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Seems like they should have moved on to a new architecture. Core is old and dying even in 2020

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@naive pendant What about it?

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:31 PM

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It's highly recommended here but else were it almost never existed

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:32 PM

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It's good

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There are just so many different motherboards out there, also it's kinda hard to search build guides for certain spec components. The ones that call them out are usually some outlandishly powerful setup

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I mean I got mines yesterday

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📎 20200606_183638.jpg

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:35 PM

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NOT ON CARPET OR BLANKET

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Sure it's on the box but

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AAAAAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHH

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Simmer down bro lol

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-panic-run-scream-gif-4655431

Tenor

AAAHHH

▶ Play video

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I'm good now

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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👍

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It's on the table now lol, however I'm a slap a r5 3600 n a 5700xt

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 10:48 PM

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nice

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Remember proper ram installation methods

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https://tenor.com/view/memery-motherboard-gif-13187743

Tenor

naive pendant Jun 6, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Only problem is I'm seeing new gpu soon to be dropped I'm wondering if I should wait a while before buying anymore parts, because I have to order it online, have it sent to a freight forwarder then wait for it to reach my country and still pay more money again to pick it up

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So I'm watching prices like a hawk

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So far the only part on the mobo is the ssd which I've been told is wacky lol

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 11:10 PM

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What's the SSD?

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:29 PM

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hey guys, i bought an msi b450 tomahawk mb and ryzen 7 3600x processor...whats the best rbg memory to put in this thing?

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for bout $150ish

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236552

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would that be ok for an amd build?

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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are you using any other corsair products

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if not, i recommend trident z

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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h100 cpu cooler

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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h100 with rgb?

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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and a couple light strips

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:40 PM

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what brand light strips

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and how are you controlling them

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:40 PM

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the ique software

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:41 PM

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so the ram you picked would be ok but its 3600cl18 which is a bit slow but works, if you were going with 3600 id go 3600CL16 but thats out of your $150 budget, its more like $190+ right now

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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does it matter if on the box it says intel xmp certified?

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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nope

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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well what memory would you suggest? 🙂

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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what are you doing with your system

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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gaming system for my son

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

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3200CL14 or 3600CL16 would be great, but 3200CL16 or 3600CL18 would be fine.

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the one you linked will be fine

compact sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

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only ones coming up with them numbers are gskill tipjaw and tridentz

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:45 PM

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the first two i listed are 200+ dollars for 16gb

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may I also recommend https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820236512 if you wish to fill the slots inbetween memory to make it look nice

mild jackal Jun 6, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I'd get 3600mhz cl(anything) within budget

copper solar Jun 6, 2020, 11:46 PM

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it's just fake memory sticks with rgb on it

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yeah get the one you linked then it's on sale

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they are AMD Ryzen optimized

dusty sun Jun 6, 2020, 11:48 PM

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is an amd epyc rlly better than a threadripper to justify its price?

main pulsar Jun 6, 2020, 11:56 PM

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not for your purposes

digital kernel Jun 6, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Well, it depends what your purposes are I guess

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For some of the use cases I've run into, yes. If you're just doing normal person stuff, no

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Is this true ? Does that mean if I OC ram above 3600 it won’t run as well with my ryzen 7 3700x ?

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cunning rivet Jun 7, 2020, 4:30 AM

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are there 16 gb ram kits that have 4 sticks?
i want 4 sticks but i cant afford it

digital kernel Jun 7, 2020, 4:36 AM

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@brazen cradle If I understood my crash course a little bit ago, there won't be any improvement

quaint current Jun 7, 2020, 4:36 AM

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like 4x4gb?

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:37 AM

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i went to go check newegg for 4x4 kits and typed 'wegg' into chrome lulz

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there are sets for 75-85 bucks that aren't green board no-brand crap

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just depends what speed you need

celest crown Jun 7, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Can anybody suggest a alternative to the msi tomahawk b450 max?

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@digital kernel ok thanks

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Can you recommend fast 16 gb ram ?

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With low timing , I do not plan on OC ram

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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there's a set of g-skill CL16 3600mhz on wegg for $83

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2x8

digital kernel Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Dang

quaint current Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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team group dark pro if u want really low timings

digital kernel Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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That's good

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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was on sale last week for 77

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but back to normal now

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I think I now want your talking about

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@upbeat lichen this ?

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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yep

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it was 83

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Lol just in time

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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but now it's 79

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score

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Ah ok

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So do you personally think I should get it ? Is there any faster 16gb with lower timings ?

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:53 AM

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if you want to find something CL15, you will probably have to go 3000-3200

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or you have to go way up to like...4000

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and spend like 200 bucks

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oh wait

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232306

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CL15, 3600

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but it's $129

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I’m not familiar with ram , is CL15 faster than what this is https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yeah, as timing gets faster, the CL does down

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Dang it is

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Ahh

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Ok

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:54 AM

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CL is a measure of latency

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so lower = better

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Oh ok thanks I didn’t know that

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:55 AM

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CL = CAS latency

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Hm that is pretty low speeds but would it be noticeable compared to https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

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And what does ram speed really show it’s affects on

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:55 AM

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which is basically the delay between the actual read command and the data being available

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i don't really know what the perceptible difference would be, what CPU are you pairing it with?

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Ryzen 7 3700x

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:59 AM

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hm, if you aren't planning OC'ing the ram, there's probably not a huge difference

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frequency is really the most important thing

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Frequency as in “3600”

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 4:59 AM

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yep

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Ah ok

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Thanks bro, ima get some other opinions just to make sure . You helped a lot so thank you

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:00 AM

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i'd personally save the $50 and go with the CL16 G-Skill set

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and then throw the $50 at a future GPU fund or something like that lol

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Hm I’ll keep that in mind , I’m planning on getting a 2080s and that won’t bottleneck my cpu right ? @upbeat lichen

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:01 AM

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no, you'll be more than fine

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Ok sweet

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:03 AM

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3600cl15 is barely better than 3600cl16

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If you want to play around with OC, 3200cl14 b die

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:03 AM

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that's what i thought, but my current knowlege of cas timings is pretty slim

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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3600cl16 will do you just fine

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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my brain is still stuck in the old DDR2 CL5 days lol

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Lol

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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so i hear CL16 and i'm like 'oh god that's slow---wait no its not'

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Hehe

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 5:07 AM

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literally unnoticable diff between the 3200 and 3600

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Your thoughts ?

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@hollow thorn @upbeat lichen

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:13 AM

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from what i can find online, it's anywhere from a 3-5% reduction in latency if you go from 3200 to 3600, but a fairly big boost in memory bandwidth on the upside

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https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/ ran a bunch of tests with varying frequency/latency combos

TechSpot

Testing 3rd-Gen Ryzen DDR4 Memory Performance and Scaling

When we reviewed Ryzen's latest iteration we briefly checked out different DDR4 memory speeds but now that things have settled we were put on a mission to benchmark memory performance on 3rd-gen Ryzen to see if spending more makes sense or not.

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@brazen cradle for Ryzen it matters

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Intel not so much

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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isn't intel only just now starting to run things at 2933?

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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No

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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they're still 2666 for the most part

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i thought

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Intel lower end boards do

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Z-boards have no limit

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4000mhz basically

upbeat lichen Jun 7, 2020, 5:15 AM

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ahh ok

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I grabbed 3600 C16 B DIE

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Bought 2 sets of 2x16

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232903?Description=Trident Z Royal&cm_re=Trident_Z_Royal-_-20-232-903-_-Product

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Hoping I can get 4000 MHZ or higher with good timings

brazen cradle Jun 7, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Ah ok thanks , I’ll just stick with 3600 then

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Umm

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3600cl16 isn't great b die, you might not get 4000

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Do whatever tho

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 5:46 AM

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...

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you joking

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Still good ram, but 3200cl14 is usually better binned I believe

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Overclocking always relies on chance and luck

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Well it’s Samsung B Dir

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Die

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And it’s in my system that I haven’t turn on ounce since I don’t have the case but I’m going to test it out tmr

quaint current Jun 7, 2020, 5:59 AM

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ya b die has different levels of binning, low bin might not oc well at all while good binned will oc great easily

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 6:00 AM

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hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I like the Noctua

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L9s if I had to guess?

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Btw this is the system that’s submerging in liquid

quaint current Jun 7, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yos

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Oil?

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Or something else

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 6:01 AM

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EC 110

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Electro Cool

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Oh interesting

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 6:03 AM

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My current system

📎 image0.jpg

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The one I’m building has an i5 10400 rn as an temporary

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Since i9 out of stock

tulip raft Jun 7, 2020, 6:27 AM

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@hollow thorn your right Noctua l9

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It was suggested to have a heat sink for the liquid

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So we got a nice small one

golden forge Jun 7, 2020, 7:30 PM

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does anyone know when newegg will have right priced MOBOS since there over priced atm

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 7:31 PM

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mobos are overpriced everywhere lol

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whenever manufacturers make more

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:46 PM

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alright yall, i need opinions. prices aside, 3800x vs 10700k

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they are very similar in terms of release msrp

deep vigil Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@odd oracle purpose of build?

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM

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daily driver

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@odd oracle motherboard pricing tho

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:P

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM

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well

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM

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z490 is so god damn expensive

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compared to b450

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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comparing the crosshair 8 series and maximus 12....

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no budget board for me lmao

deep vigil Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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You can find cheaper ones

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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?

frank karma Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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find cheaper eggs

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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prices aside!

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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but why those CPUs if ignoring prices?

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:P

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10900k vs 3950x

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yaknow

deep vigil Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Ye

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:48 PM

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well I don't need an overkill cpu either

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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3600 or 10600k?

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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10600k ignoring board prices

deep vigil Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Ye

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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a modern 6/12 cpu is enough for most games

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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If you get a good z490 board, 10600k.

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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so, whichever ends up being cheapest, cuz prices are whack rn

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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whack

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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right

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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wak

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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well when the economy goes back to normal

split copper Jun 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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that is a fantasy

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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lmaoo

split copper Jun 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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we are all doomed

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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For gaming, 10600k+z490+3200mhzcl14 (b die fun)

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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of course, good luck finding 10600k in stock

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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ye lol

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I actually have a 3800x + crosshair 8 hero. im just finding reasons to go to intel

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lmaoo

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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oh

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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oh then there is no reason lol

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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hahaha

devout mothBOT Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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DodgeMz#9556 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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wait for amd 4th gen maybe

frank karma Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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wit

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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the maximus 12 apex looks pretty

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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with the same gpu, you will get no perf increase from what you have

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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intel offers nowhere near enough to warrant a new motherboard

frank karma Jun 7, 2020, 11:51 PM

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i love when i smoke a [CIGARETTE] n then i breathe on my wall n then i smell my wall

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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lmao wtf

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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ok

naive pendant Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Things that don't need to be posted here

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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excuse me, we use the term [REDACTED] here

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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alright yall convinced me. no point in changing my build

split copper Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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I would watch that video

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Yea [REDACTED] [REDACTED].

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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whats your GPU tho

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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1080ti

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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yea you're fine

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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oh haha

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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what is redacted

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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your fine

split copper Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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his fine?

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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thank you c:

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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its when something is removed

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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oh, are yall saying bad words

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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basically

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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only time you'll get perf difference thats barely noticeable is if you got titan rtx or 2080ti yaknow

naive pendant Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Someone was dodging the filter

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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then you'll have like 8fps difference

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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2080ti not worth the extra 500 bucks for 20 fps more

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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thats basically what your working with lol

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:54 PM

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ye

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:54 PM

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basically, the only gpus that would give you noticable perf results is the 2080s and 2080ti

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

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noticable perf differences with intel cpu against amd

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

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the 2080 isnt made anymore i think

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it was replaced by the super

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

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are you saying amd would bottleneck any performance changes?

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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nah, games just tend to run better on intel cores

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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ahh

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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it has to do with past optimizations

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cuz back in 2017, if u were a gamer, you had intel

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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well thats why I thought about switching back to intel

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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so thats what games were tailored to

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so most games even now are tailored towards intel because development for the game began years prior

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:57 PM

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makes sense

main pulsar Jun 7, 2020, 11:58 PM

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that will change soon tho

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as long as amd holds their place as a worthy competitor

odd oracle Jun 7, 2020, 11:59 PM

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you think so?

hollow thorn Jun 7, 2020, 11:59 PM

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moar cores

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use em

odd oracle Jun 8, 2020, 12:03 AM

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alright thanks for the info yall

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Any one have a list of post codes for Asus ROG strix x570e motherboards?

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:17 AM

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google time

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@digital kernel you need the whole table?

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Yup. Can't find one

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:20 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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actually I'll just

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page 83 and onwards
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING/E15826_ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING_UM_v2_WEB.pdf

rigid dragon Jun 8, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I bought 2 sets of 2x16 3600 MHZ 16 16 16 36 ram

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And only is 2133

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I tried xmp

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It fails

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Thanks

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@rigid dragon intel or amd

rigid dragon Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Inte

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Intel

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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what motherboard

rigid dragon Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Z490-G

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The ram is supported

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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qvl?

rigid dragon Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Lemme send you the link

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G skill website ain’t allowed ok

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Let me get Newegg

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:22 AM

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no websites are until lvl 3 lol

rigid dragon Jun 8, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Look at dms

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:28 AM

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try setting freq and timings manually

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https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/299/1562662435/F4-3600C16D-32GTRS-Specification

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

F4-3600C16D-32GTRS-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

scarlet basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:29 AM

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building a computer for large scale fusion 360 projects and gaming. gonna put a 2070 super in, but im not sure about cpu. should i go intel i7-10700 or a threadripper 2950X? thanks! btw-64 gb of 3200 ram. budget is 2k

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:30 AM

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For productivity, go AMD. How much is the 2950?

scarlet basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:30 AM

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its 650

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friend says that its old and has bad drivers

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but I think it makes more sense for what im doing

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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It's about a year old. i'd go with a 3950x though. The motherboards will likely be cheaper

scarlet basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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got it-thanks!

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I think it's about 705 rn

hollow thorn Jun 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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700$ flat amazon

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Nice

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Yeah, go 3950x

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What all do you need to get in that budget?

finite elm Jun 8, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I got the 3900x and it works great so far. If only my budget was higher lol

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The 3950 would work so well in unreal 🥰

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 12:51 AM

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3950x actually outperforms a 1660s in blender

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Found why the computer was losing power... any ideas?

📎 JPEG_20200607_205136.png

kind flower Jun 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Solder it

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@digital kernel

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 1:00 AM

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We don't know what pin it came from, also the pins use crimp, not solder

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:05 AM

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All pins should be filled in a 24 pin connector. So look for an empty slot?

main pulsar Jun 8, 2020, 1:05 AM

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is this a modular cable?

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you could get a new one if you needed to

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:07 AM

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also iirc if you just forcefully shove the wire in you'll get a good and strong connection again, pretty sure on average the wire is thick enough to do that.

mild jackal Jun 8, 2020, 1:07 AM

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All pins should not be filled, there's one missing

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Ah, welp

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24 pin layout then

mild jackal Jun 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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The normally empty pin is on the flip side though

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So whatever hole is on the non-clip side is where it goes

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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📎 connector_atx_pinout.png

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apparently it's on the clipside, not non-clip side

digital kernel Jun 8, 2020, 1:14 AM

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All pins are filled except for the -5v. The problem is, all pins already have a wire going into them, but some have two

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:15 AM

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connect a voltage meter to ground and that pin to see what the voltage is

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hopefully smth will come up from that

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tho, still PWR_OK, 5VSB, COM, and PS_ON that idk about for determining

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or wait.. is COM ground? Idk anything about this

main pulsar Jun 8, 2020, 1:17 AM

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PWR_OK should be slighly less than whatever your 5VDC measures

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COM is ground

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wait

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ok fixed it

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PS_ON should just start the psu lol

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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right. Was only thinking output. Not input

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forgot PSUs had input

main pulsar Jun 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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idr what 5VSB should measure, it should be different than 5VDC tho

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-12vdc isnt even used anymore, idk why the spec didnt remove it as well

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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cOmpATiBilItY

main pulsar Jun 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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honestly, the ATX spec needs an update

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3.3 and 5 are hardly used anymore

long geyser Jun 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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they still do tho afaik

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3.3 very rare

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5 is somewhat uncommon

main pulsar Jun 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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not enough to justify 5 individual wires each

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and the 75w per pcie slot is powered using only 2 wires

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def needs an update, i dont care how unhappy people are with such a change lol

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also, most psus are modular anyway, its not that hard for a company to make money selling new sets of modular cables

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with the new pinouts

mild jackal Jun 8, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Have to wire green to back to turn the psu on in order to measure the missing pin

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I'm sure it's easy enough to figure it out from what's missing though

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Does Dell still do the proprietary psu crap they used to?

mild jackal Jun 8, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Hasn't in about 10 years

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:39 AM

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That's about how long it's been since I looked at one close enough to tell, lol

mild jackal Jun 8, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Form factor sometimes yes, but only in the smaller stuff.

split copper Jun 8, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Lenovo did with my computer 5 years ago 😳

finite elm Jun 8, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Dell gets decent psu's imo

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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It's not the quality, it's the fact that they used to cross wires from the standard layout

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People would build a new system trying to use a dell psu and RiP

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:48 AM

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yeah, the proprietary side of it was a problem

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Especially since the PSU usually did outlast the rest of the system, lol

split copper Jun 8, 2020, 1:54 AM

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oof

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works the other way around with Lenovo

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standard PSU to proprietary connector

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:55 AM

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So much for industry standard

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:56 AM

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that reminds me, i have a dell system at work that i should bring home, see what i can do in terms of upgrading it

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IT was getting rid of it and i got to snag it before it got trashed

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:57 AM

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So many get trashed when they'd be a legitimate upgrade for someone.

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:57 AM

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this one belonged to our video department, dell precision tower, i7-6700, 32GB RAM, 512GB nvme drive left installed

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Or donated, or something

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:57 AM

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they pulled the big storage drives to keep the footage and stuff

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but sent the rest of the system to IT to be e-wasted

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Ok, that'd be an upgrade for me right now, lol

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:58 AM

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so i threw my old 750Ti in it

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and bing bang boom, it's a complete system

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:58 AM

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My system got so neglected

devout sentinel Jun 8, 2020, 1:58 AM

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anyone running a 9900k?

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 1:58 AM

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i have a spare rx570 now, so i might throw that in the system and see about selling it as a whole

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I've gota 1660S, but that's the newest part in the system

split copper Jun 8, 2020, 2:07 AM

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man I wish I had an IT department to be shoveled old computers to peepoSadSip

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 2:07 AM

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i'm just lucky because i sit next to them

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we just upgraded most of our older macbooks to new models

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so they tossed like 10 of them

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older pre-touch bar machines

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i snagged 8, cleaned them up, got them running, and resold them

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I used to be freelance IT

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 2:08 AM

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the other 2 were broken beyond my ability to repair and not worth taking to an apple store

deft phoenix Jun 8, 2020, 3:26 AM

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the ASRock X570 TAICHI is a good mobo for my 3950x right?

gritty patio Jun 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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i believe so

random osprey Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I was pinged

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Newegg2

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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war

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now

trail carbon Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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hello

maiden flare Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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hehe

light valve Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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why tf do people have @e perms?...

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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no

maiden flare Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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ya

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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ya

trail carbon Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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ya

cedar rune Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Can we send links here

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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they dont aka they just manually pinged a bunch of people

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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ugh

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raids

bronze summit Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Stop pinging me

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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n OMEGALUL

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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and by they i mean skrt#8516

elder hearth Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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@everyone

cedar rune Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Newegg link

devout mothBOT Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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BandagePanda#8106 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Jun 8, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Really good way to get banned

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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with user id 552611042711306243

uneven fern Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/who-rang-that-bell-wizard-of-oz-doorbell-do-not-disturb-who-is-it-gif-15162298

Tenor

cedar rune Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232181?Item=N82E16820232181

elder hearth Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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wait y can we do that

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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because theyre just pinging people manyally

cedar rune Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Does that ram look good in general

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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@tiny hinge

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ah theyre still here

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oh my god people cant read

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i'm explaining the damn situation

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i am so tired

grave mantle Jun 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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someone pinged

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raid?

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probs

opal valley Jun 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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552611042711306243 manually pinged a bunch of people

upbeat lichen Jun 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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just a single jerkface