#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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wicked gorge
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acer, thats what the snid brings up

weak hamlet
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I believe you can go as high as 2666

warped scroll
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I have an acer aspire e5-576-392H and it actually takes ddr3

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It has 8th gen i3

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It's best to just crack open the laptop and look at the ram stick to see if it'ss ddr3 or ddr4

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May not be the case for this laptop though

weak hamlet
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no need..

wicked gorge
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thanks for this website! i couldnt find a compatibility website

weak hamlet
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crucial is my go to for laptops 🙂

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doubles your current ram.

devout mothBOT
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stromy#5562 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

weak hamlet
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ooof

wicked gorge
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oops

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lol

weak hamlet
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its ok

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we can make it decent

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slap an ssd in it aswell

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that will help your loading time x100000

wicked gorge
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yea that was the next thing after i got the memory fixed haha

weak hamlet
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looks like you have sata m.2 and a 2.5 slot

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do you know what harddrive you have in it currently?

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1tb?

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is it cer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM

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??

wicked gorge
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its a 250 i think

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128 ssd actuall

weak hamlet
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in the m.2 slot?

wicked gorge
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ooo no the ssd XD my bad didnt read that

weak hamlet
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128gb and thats it? only drive?

wicked gorge
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triple checking

weak hamlet
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just trying to see if you have a 128 m.2 ssd

wicked gorge
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but my company is cheap lol

weak hamlet
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and a blank 2.5 harddrive bay

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if that's the case e z p z... any 2.5 ssd will work for storage upgrade

wicked gorge
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oofta ya 128 is all this bad boys got

naive pendant
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What do I do if my graphics card isnt getting power
Everything is plugged in

hollow thorn
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@brazen cradle oh yea arma forgot about that, what settings do you want me to try

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and what do you want me to play to benchmark it

brazen cradle
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Uh Idk

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Are you going to stream it ?

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@hollow thorn

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Try uh high setting and multiplayer

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I don’t know the game modes

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Tho

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I’m pretty sure you can stream it on discord or twitch if you prefer

hollow thorn
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wait one sec

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I'll do the rivatuner thing

brazen cradle
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Rivatuner ?

hollow thorn
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okay couldnt completely get riva tuner working

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but

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didn't bother for the rest of the graphs

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only got framerate

brazen cradle
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@hollow thorn oh Ight

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What setting did you play on

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And was it multiplayer?

hollow thorn
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High

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No campaign

brazen cradle
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Nice

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Oh campaign, try multiplayer if u can

hollow thorn
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Eh multiplayer is close enough to campaign

brazen cradle
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I already kinda know what campaign can get in fps

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I hope

hollow thorn
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Because there's a ton of different servers

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Different modes

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Etc

brazen cradle
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Oh

hollow thorn
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I also don't have DLCs

brazen cradle
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It’s still uploading

hollow thorn
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Wifi slow sadly

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That was like a 20min clip anyways

brazen cradle
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Do you need dlc to play multiplayer?

hollow thorn
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No, but dlc adds more modes

brazen cradle
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Oh

raven cloak
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the fact that these arent centered between the lines

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this is actually mildly infuriating

split copper
hollow thorn
split copper
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sudden Russia Syndrome

hollow thorn
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@brazen cradle works now

brazen cradle
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@hollow thorn yea i saw bro , I’ll tell you my reaction once I finish this video about CPU’s

wet rapids
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plug it jn b e t t e r

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make sure the wire is in all the way in both the psu and hpu

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and if thats not it get a new wire

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and if its not the wire then u have a dead gpu

brazen cradle
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@hollow thorn very entertaining footage , I was actually excited but then out of no where the video ended lol

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80 frames is like the average which is good for a game that un optimized

hollow thorn
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@brazen cradle I was like huh I got carried away lemme just end it here

brazen cradle
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Lol

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It was entertaining tho

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Wait what next gen ryzen is coming in July ?

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Hopefully they support b450 boards

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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They say no, but we'll have to see

brazen cradle
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And apparently intel will be out in June

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So I’ll have more options BUT the cost tho ..

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@hollow thorn so in June / July is when hopefully they will be released since I kinda wanna have a pc before the summer sales happen on steam

grim hazel
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Nice

narrow siren
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im not sure whats wrong but a lot of my games take a long time to load in. tarkov, pubg, fortnite all take a good amount to load into a game. ive never been too fast to load in but definitely not this slow and i think it may be a RAM problem

supple monolith
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Take a look at task manager when something loads

narrow siren
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when loading into a game?

supple monolith
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Yeah

charred venture
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what storage device do u have?

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or where are the games at

lament oasis
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remember when companies had motherboards in stock

burnt notch
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what is timing on ram/memory

split copper
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@narrow siren those are all online multiplayer games aren't they?

narrow siren
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yea

split copper
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When loading an online match, there will always be a player who has the weakest computer and/or internet of the bunch, and as a result, the match will only start once their computer catches up.

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That's one reason loading could be abysmal

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That always happened when I played Robocraft...I have 5Mbps down, 0.5Mbps up internet, but even my internet was beastly in comparison with that of one person in the match

hollow thorn
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Robocraft servers are prob pretty dead now

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Freejam stopped support for it like a year ago

split copper
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Idk, haven't played in a long time, but I still see news from them about it on Steam, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're still running

narrow siren
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@split copper Tarkov servers do not wait for other computers and its not an internet problem

charred venture
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u have an ssd right

devout mothBOT
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C’monBruh#0973 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

brazen cradle
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Weird

midnight pollen
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Dup text can be weird

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

brazen cradle
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Yea

cerulean forge
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ok boys hear me out, i hav =e x570 so dont need a new board for 4000 so should i wait or just get a 3950x?

weak hamlet
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wait

cerulean forge
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tight

weak hamlet
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only cause 2 things.

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itll either be way better than 3950x

cerulean forge
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3950 price drop

weak hamlet
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or it wont, and it'll still drive prices down on current chips

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yep 🙂

cerulean forge
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big brain

weak hamlet
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but

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can you hold off til Oct-ish

cerulean forge
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i have a 2600, i can wait

weak hamlet
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supposed launch date for them

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2600 still plenty good.

cerulean forge
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suprisingly some games i play keep all threads at 70%

weak hamlet
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30% head room \o/

ionic hamlet
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I'm planning to get a Ryzen 3600.

cerulean forge
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thtas also while streaming, having discord open, xbox console companion and itunes open

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the 3600 isnt as good of a value as a lot of bit youtubers make it to be i never understood that

weak hamlet
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yeah

cerulean forge
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the 1600af is like

weak hamlet
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lol

cerulean forge
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it's a 3600 ab 2700 price

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or something like that around

ionic hamlet
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I thought a 3600 was considered pretty decent... especially with the fact it's consistently selling at 175 dollars lately.

long geyser
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All AMD said is that all b450/x470 boards arent guaranteed to support Zen3. Not that all b450/x470 would lack Zen3 support

cerulean forge
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@long geyser what?

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i never said they would

long geyser
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Eh, misread message. Thought you were getting x570 for Zen3 support

cerulean forge
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yeah, i already have x570

ionic hamlet
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I'm planning to get a b550 board once they're out, but not going to wait for the 4000 CPUs.

cerulean forge
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why not

ionic hamlet
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Because who knows when they're coming out? The b550 boards are coming next month

long geyser
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and who knows if b550 will have amazing valued boards like b450 mATX Tuf Pro. I wouldnt suggest only thinking about b550 yet

cerulean forge
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that's cap

ionic hamlet
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And well, I sort of have a time limit on when I can do this sort of thing. I'll be too busy come fall to have time to put together a PC. It'll either be this summer or December and frankly I don't want to wait 'till the end of the year.

brazen cradle
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Same , I was really hoping to build a pc by summer but I sadly might wait for the new gpu and CPU’s to release in like 3/4 months

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Tuff but hopefully it’ll be worth the wait and I hope that they aren’t extra expensive

split copper
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@narrow siren ¯_(ツ)_/¯

brazen cradle
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Dang that’s tuff how only b550 and x570 boards are compatible with the next gen ryzen CPU’s

long geyser
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@brazen cradle All AMD said is that all b450/x470 boards arent guaranteed to support Zen3. Not that all b450/x470 would lack Zen3 support

brazen cradle
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Oh

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So

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If I get a b450 I could possibly upgrade and put 4th gen cpu on it ? @long geyser

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And is there a way of knowing which b450 mobo won’t support the next gen cpu

long geyser
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Maybe. No other words have been spoken about this so cant say much

brazen cradle
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Hm ok

grave cove
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Would a b450 thomahawk work with a radeon rx 5700xt?

wet rapids
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it should

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i dont see why it wouldnt

grave cove
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Ok just asking ty

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😄

tender flint
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I'm torn between the Gigabyte X570 I and Asus X570 I for my 3700x ITX build. Is the Asus board worth the added cost?

lethal charm
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kevin - best bet would be to use the 'Compare' feature on newegg.com to show the two side-by-side.
Tip #1: Turn "Recommendations" OFF, in the upper-right.
Tip #2: select "Highlight - Differences" from drop-down in upper left.

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@tender flint ^

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...
I've had a heck of a time trying to find x570 motherboards in stock (across several sites). However, I'm now thinking I don't need an x570 motherboard for my setup.
GPU: Radeon 5700 MECH OC
Standard SATA SSD

hard wigeon
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What's the best intel prossesor

deep vigil
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i910900k

hard wigeon
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Yes I9

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Your config

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Gaming desktop

deep vigil
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ok do you have a a budget or no

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just as good as you can get?

hollow thorn
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why not amd

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:D

tranquil wolf
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what's a good AM4 board comparable to the B450 Tomahawk Max (out of stock everywhere)? pref. one that will not need flashed for 3600 support

deep vigil
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@hollow thorn if you got no budget I though intel is still ontop

hollow thorn
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Asus B450-f gaming

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@deep vigil for gaming only

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if you do anything else

deep vigil
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ye he said gaming

hollow thorn
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if you do any video editing

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its worth for 3900x

deep vigil
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video editing ye still amd

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but he said gaming

hollow thorn
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what if they want to video edit too

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AMD gives more options Dumb

deep vigil
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ye but gaming

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amd is still better for anything else

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well no budget

hollow thorn
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3990x

daring patio
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AMD kinda messed up, heard the news

weak hamlet
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???

tacit hemlock
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Spill

hollow thorn
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@daring patio they said it was about bios sizes so we'll have to see on mobo manufacture's end

tacit hemlock
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What was it @hollow thorn

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Fine, Google it is then

hollow thorn
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@tacit hemlock no offcial support for 4th gen on b450 and x470

tacit hemlock
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Oh I knew that lol

lethal charm
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Please clarify - no support for 4th gen -what- ?

tacit hemlock
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4th cpus

warped scroll
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4th generation Ryzen

lethal charm
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Ok. We're at 3rd/4th gen CPUs, while also going into PCI-e 3.0/4.0... so wanted to make sure.
Thank you.

tacit hemlock
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Np

lethal charm
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I've circled around my motherboard choices a dozen times in the past 2 weeks.
Learning more, but it's giving me headaches. 😕

daring patio
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@hollow thorn I thought msi's max series specificly tried to fix that issue and increased the bios size

hollow thorn
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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we'll see

daring patio
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I swa the hardware unboxed video, he did a nice jub explaining

steep granite
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I have a question: do Asus prime Z370 will accept i9-9900k?

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I am looking to upgrade my cpu after freezing on planet zoo game

charred venture
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buy the 9700k if you want to be safe

sly star
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Does anyone know if most retailers would have the ASUS TUF B450 Pro Gaming compatible out of the box with the ryzen 5 3600?

charred venture
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if you buy it from a reputable spot yeah

sly star
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Gotcha, thanks. I got it from memoryexpress but they aren’t really the fastest to answer so just thought to ask here. Thanks for your help

still panther
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what would be better to go with in terms of performance and price? (on a tight budget) a rog strix b450 f with a ryzen 5 3600, or the new b550 boards and a ryzen 4 3100x?

daring patio
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you mean ryzen 3 3100x?

tacit hemlock
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You'll get more performance out of a 3600

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And you won't have to wait for the b550 and 3100 to drop

hollow thorn
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b550 will drop about the time as 4000

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basically giving no future upgrades

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so ima just chill with suggesting b450

daring patio
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Is it best to buy right after a new gen releases?

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when should I do my pc shopping + build?

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

kind flower
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Best time for pc shopping and building is Black Friday, then they have very good deals. If you get emails from Newegg they also have good deals everyday, depending on what ur looking for

wet rapids
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cyber moday

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does anybody know why z490 boards have “potential” pcie 4.0 support but 10th gen intel doesnt

deep vigil
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@wet rapids acording to gigabyte next gen will be supported on same chip set

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so they are just putting them out there for next gen

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11th gen intel will be release same socket same chipset supposedly

wet rapids
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thats a rly dumb buisness plan

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nobody is going to buy two proseccors in two years consecivly

deep vigil
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you would be suprised

split copper
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Intel fan detected

deep vigil
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nah

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my friends do it all the time

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upgrade spontaneously

split copper
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rather, Intel fan not detected, because neither person in proximity currently irradiates Intel waves

deep vigil
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I should've went team red

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spent more on gpu

desert kindle
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hey yall, looking to build a new facemelting PC. The current facemelter is about 4 years old. i7/6700, Asus ROG Hero VIII, 32 gigs. I'm doing music production now, and my son wants my PC for gaming. So I get an upgrade. Looking at the Ryzen 1950x with 64 gigs. Got ideas for best motherboard? I've had great luck with my ROG. So was looking at the Crosshair VIII.

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Oh, and the G.Skill Trident Z EGB memory. DDR4-3600. Had good luck with that too. Only components i've had to replace were the water cooler (i110) and the power supply (died early, Coolermaster........replaced with EVGA, much better).

hollow thorn
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Wait, so are you looking at a Threadripper 1950x ..? @desert kindle

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Also, what kind of workloads do you get for music production? More focused on single core perf, or just the more threads you can throw at it, the better?

desert kindle
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Yes. The Digital Audio Software i use (Bitwig, as well as others) use "plug ins". For each "track" of a song you could have several of them, all busy doing something to the digital signal. Some of the software synths will bring your PC to it's knees. While I don't probably need 16 cores, I always future proof if the money works out. 🙂 Considered just going to 128 gigs of RAM but......as Bill Gates once said, who could ever need more than 640k of memory .....

hollow thorn
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Anyways

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1950x is built on older architecture

long geyser
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mobo makes 1950x a meh deal

hollow thorn
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so

desert kindle
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yeah, I need to do some more research.....not ready to buy/build yet.

long geyser
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cuz total price of 1950x+x399 is close to 3950x+basic x570

desert kindle
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new to Discord, are youtube links not allowed? I just hit enter and a message disappeared I had typed....had a link in it.

hollow thorn
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DM

crude path
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you have to be level 3 to post links i believe

long geyser
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It's for this specific server, Basically you need to be level 3 on this server

desert kindle
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ah....gotcha.

long geyser
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level is just how many messages you sent

desert kindle
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i'm a discord noob......

long geyser
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So tl:dr, there is a message threshold to be able to send links

hollow thorn
crude path
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@desert kindle most discord groups dont require a level to do such things. the admin of this server uses weggbot to mitigate and help keep spammers/trolls and such out because of how big this server is, so theres a leveling system that gives you exp once every minute for talking. when you hit level 3, you can post links and images. you can check your level by going to #ranks-and-levels and typing !rank

tacit hemlock
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We should honestly save that message and quote it because it gets asked a lot

crude path
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yeah but most dont read the pins so it doesn't matter lol. it doesnt hurt to answer it tho

tacit hemlock
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Pin it to ranks and levels or smthing

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Ya true

desert kindle
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cool, i get it.....gotta keep out the trolls and riff raff. I'm neither. 😉

hollow thorn
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@desert kindle Anyways so is it possible to demo it with task manager open?

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I know it might sound like a weird request

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but I don't know how music production hits the threads

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like does it pin every thread to 100%, or does it, like gaming, only really use 8 threads or so

desert kindle
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yeah.......i'd need to build a song. let me see if I have something that comes close.......the youtube link i wanted to share would give you an idea.

hollow thorn
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Yea I mean I see you doing stuff but idk how it's hitting the cpu

midnight pollen
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honestly macs are really expensive but work good for audio

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latency is good for recording

desert kindle
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i use one for work. worked for MSFT for 15 years, wanted something else when I left. But honestly this work one will be my last MAC. I just like to tinker too much. Win or Linux.

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yeah, i have a Motu 4x4 USB audio interface. bypasses the audio card on ROG. best for low latency. using ASIO.

long geyser
midnight pollen
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not bad

hollow thorn
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I quickly ran siege's benchmark for a demonstration, games don't fully hit all the cores at all, a fair bit of load on like 4 threads, and everything else is chillin at like no load

split copper
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most games won't have tons of multithreading :p

hollow thorn
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yeaa

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thats why I wanted to know how music production really works

long geyser
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well, you want that latency and stability. Which in games can be looked at as 0.1% lows

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which seems a general uplift, and I'd expect audio to be a bit more multi threaded then games

hollow thorn
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I understand

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but I wanted to know if it just needed more threads, so 2nd or 3rd gen TR would be better, or it hit a few threads hard, so Ryzen.

desert kindle
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ok, created something special for you. Unfortunately, the sound was being captures by my webcam MIC. It sounded pretty cool. 😉 But you can see the effect on CPU. It's uploading. Slow upload link. Hang on. I still need to be able to share the youtube link though. I can send it to Mr1111 and he can share back here?

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send you the link. video turned out grainy, should have recorded on my 1080 screen. sound was only through my webcam....I screwed up. It was a quickie. I'll redo it later as it's interesting......

hollow thorn
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Fair nuff

split copper
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ah I C

hollow thorn
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Doesn't look like it's all core synthetic load

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just hitting some threads hard

midnight pollen
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serum is pretty cpu intensive

desert kindle
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yes, these are the same thing as Serum......Massive X, Arturia PIgments, Vengeance, and the orangish one is the really cool Phase Plant. That one patch had like 8 different oscilators in it. and it drove the cpu from 36 or so to over 50%. 😉

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like and subscribe and i'll try to do a better capture soon .....kinda pulled this one out my butt for ya.

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well, think i'll stick with the plan for 16 cores (+16 threads) and 64 gigs of RAM. thanks all for the eyes on it....hope you enjoyed the video. see you back here later. I have to crash out......I work for Redis Labs and we have our big (now virtual) online conference tomorrow. I have to man the "ask the experts" chat room. 🙂 I could play with this stuff all night though......it's addictive. (geek.....)

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and maybe one day i'll graduate from Rookie and can post links.

summer sleet
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whats a good motherboard thats less than tomahawk max?

royal mesa
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when would the new b550's released

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*be released

hollow thorn
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@summer sleet oos, but Asus tuf b450 pro

tulip raft
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Imma hold off for a little and get 10th gen

rapid canyon
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what you all think? for streaming and gaming: r5 1600AF or r3 3300x?

daring patio
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u mean r5 1600af :)

rapid canyon
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yea

daring patio
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probably 3300x

minor mason
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hi, whats a good cpu for a minecraft server for up to 100 people? have a budget around $250 but would prefer not to go that high so i can get more ram

broken hazel
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hey does anyone know if the gigabte aorus b450 elite supports 3rd gen ryzen out of the box or do i need to update bios with a second or first gen

hollow thorn
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It's supposed to.

broken hazel
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Ok

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thanks

ionic hamlet
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I still plan to get a Ryzen 3600.

blissful bobcat
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what is more worth getting, the Intel Core i5-9600K or the Intel Core i7-9700K

tacit hemlock
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Well basic spec sheet says i7

tranquil wolf
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depends on your budget really

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if you have the $ i would say the i7, if not then the i5 is a good chip

quaint current
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why not ryzen 3600 tho

vagrant mist
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Gaming vs Workstation

tall wedge
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Hi, I need to find the right RAM for a mini bare bone pc I just ordered. (MSI Cubi-N-8GL) When the specs says: System Memory: DDR4 2400MHz up to 8GB (1 Slot) Does that mean that it won't support 2666MHz RAMs? And will it not support a 16GB RAM unit?

naive pendant
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hey would a ryzen 5 3600 be enough for streaming and gaming?

dim coral
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nah you gotta get the ryzen 9

naive pendant
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what about ryzen 7 3700x

dim coral
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but seriously though the ryzen 5, intel i5 is enough for streaming. some people use the gpu for encoding and that works perfectly fine.

naive pendant
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ok thanks

dim coral
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np

weak hamlet
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@tall wedge if it has only one ram slot, it can only go up to 8gb 2400mhz

tall wedge
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Thanks @weak hamlet I feared so.

weak hamlet
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gotta think that think is like the size of your hand no?

tall wedge
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Yeah it's 4.57 x 4.41 x 1.75 inch - so not much room for anything

weak hamlet
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yeah

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8gb still a big boost for it

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going from 4.

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basically doubling the ram size.

tall wedge
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Yeah it's fine. Actually it's going to be delivered without RAM or disk. It's only because I have a 8GB 2666MHz in spare. So I hoped I could use that one

weak hamlet
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you can

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it should just downclock it to whatever the max is.

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2400mhz

tall wedge
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ah ok, great. Good news

finite elm
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Any idea when the 3300x will be released?

hollow thorn
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soon ™

naive pendant
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Is a i5-2400 a OK cpu?

weak hamlet
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no

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very outdated.

midnight pollen
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not really today

mild jackal
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2500k tho 🐐

weak hamlet
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we are about to be 10th gen

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right?

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that's second gen?

naive pendant
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Damn

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My computer is outright garbage

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Ok

gritty meadow
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correct Box

naive pendant
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How bout a i3-9100f is it OK?

urban ferry
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pair that 2400 with a decent GPU and a SSD and you got a good PC.

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maybe like... rx570 or 1650?

gritty meadow
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not a "good" pc

urban ferry
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decent

gritty meadow
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you got a pc

midnight pollen
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a pc that turns on

urban ferry
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it would do games

naive pendant
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So is i3-9100f good tho

weak hamlet
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i3-9100k is decent

midnight pollen
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2400 will for sure be a bottleneck unless you use old hardware with it

weak hamlet
#

it's current gen

urban ferry
#

check out AMD Ryzen, they have much better bang for buck

naive pendant
#

What's a bottleneck

weak hamlet
#

it's the lowest of current gen. but way better that that 2400

#

say you have a 2080ti with that i5-2400

midnight pollen
#

if you are doing something like gaming the gpu won't be able to go at full power, it will be limited by the cpu

urban ferry
weak hamlet
#

2080ti is going to under perform

naive pendant
#

I don't really understand GPUs or cpus

urban ferry
#

me neither.

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all i know is

weak hamlet
#

you want a balance of both

urban ferry
#

u put it in the slot, it work

weak hamlet
#

or close to it

naive pendant
#

My computer sucks

midnight pollen
#

basically yes you want balance, don't spend all your money in a gpu and get a crappy cpu

weak hamlet
#

are you looking to build?

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or upgrade something

naive pendant
#

It's an HP 8100 which I'm assuming is bad

weak hamlet
#

uh

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Elite?

midnight pollen
weak hamlet
naive pendant
#

Yeah l

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It sucks

weak hamlet
#

yeah she obsolete 😦

naive pendant
#

It is ?

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Dang

midnight pollen
#

probably best just to get a new pc

naive pendant
#

The thing is

weak hamlet
#

yeah, ain't really anything you can do with it.

naive pendant
#

I just got it

weak hamlet
#

or worth doing to it

midnight pollen
#

many components are incompatible with current hardware

weak hamlet
#

get your monies back if you can

mild jackal
#

$100 for something like that is ok - for the full setup

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Maybe $80

midnight pollen
#

how much did you pay?

naive pendant
#

250

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With a monitor and accessories

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Im actually quite young and I was naive at first but then I started learning that a 2400 is bad

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It didn't specify what the gen the i5 was

#

But actually it is alright

charred venture
#

not even an ssd 😦

#

pay like 30 dollars for a boot drive it'll be day/night difference

naive pendant
#

I thought if I just added q better GPU then the current garbage Intel 660 it would be better

midnight pollen
#

well see if you can get your money back, and if you are ever looking for something there are always people here that can help you 🙂

naive pendant
#

Like what

midnight pollen
#

anything pc related

naive pendant
#

So do any of you know a GPU that could possible make it good

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Or OK in the least

midnight pollen
#

if you put a gpu that is closer to the era then graphical performance would be a bit better but idk that it would be worth it

#

where did you buy this pc?

naive pendant
#

Until gone

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Yeah bad site

midnight pollen
#

until gone?

naive pendant
#

Yeah

midnight pollen
#

yee sorry but it was even cheaper at newegg, but anyway do you think you can get a refund or do they not do refunds?

naive pendant
#

Nope

#

I'd rather just upgrade and the 30day limit is probably over

midnight pollen
#

other options could be ebay or something

naive pendant
#

True

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It came with a monitor too

midnight pollen
#

what were you looking to do with this pc

naive pendant
#

Add a gpu

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Oh

midnight pollen
#

but like what were you gonna use it for

naive pendant
#

You eant

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I was tryna do some light gaming

midnight pollen
#

what games did you have in mind

naive pendant
#

And actually it's not bad

#

Uh like Batman arkham series GTA 5 and maybe COD

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So far for ME it's fine at a 1200x600 display for Batman arkham city

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Basically like a movie display

#

I was trying to get a GPU called Gigabyte GV-N1030OC-2GI Nvidia GeForce GT 1030 OC 2G graphics card

supple monolith
hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant what's the budget for a gpu

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Gt 1030 is a really crappy old GPU afaik

naive pendant
#

Oh

midnight pollen
#

maybe you can slip in a gtx 960 if it would fit into the case

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and if the psu can handle

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tho i may have doubts

naive pendant
#

Maybe 75-100 I don't really want to waste my parents money

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Sick I'm poor

#

😅

long geyser
#

used rx580?

hollow thorn
#

Maybe like a used 1650s or smth

midnight pollen
#

for sure you should get a used card

naive pendant
#

Who

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Me?

midnight pollen
#

idk if the psu in that pc has the connectors or power for some of the cards tho

#

ye

naive pendant
#

I did open it up to check and I didn't want to mess anything up

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I think it was a 250 watt power supply

weak hamlet
tacit hemlock
#

yikes

naive pendant
#

WESTERNDIGITAL YM

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It and abest poert supply vvr

obsidian lark
#

hey! I hope you all doing fine and are healthy 🙂 I have a question about the upcoming Nvidia 3000 Series. I read that they support PCIE 4.0. My motherboard only supports up to PCIE 3.0 16x. Will this be a problem performancewise? Do i need to upgrade my motherboard before buying a 3000 Series card?

urban ferry
#

It will not be a problem

#

All PCIE versions are backwards and forwards compatible

#

it will work

#

(techies correct me if im wrong)

#

but for example, you can put a 5700xt (pcie 4.0 card) in a pcie 3.0 slot and not have any issues

#

graphics cards dont really utilize the speeds of pcie 4.0 yet, pcie 4.0 is more beneficial towards SSDs

midnight pollen
#

yes pcie is backwards compatible, pcie 4.0 has more bandwidth but there will not likely be any bandwidth issues with the card. it would only possibly be more of an issue in the future when more powerful cards come out

mild jackal
#

Yep

obsidian lark
#

Thank you so much @Zack and @notGhost for your answers. I was really hoping for that answer as you may expect hahaha 😄 Great news, super psyched for the reveal today 😉 Thanks again!

urban ferry
#

yep

lethal charm
#

@obsidian lark I've also been shopping for similar components, and did a bunch of research myself. There really is VERY LITTLE advantage to spending money on / waiting for a motherboard with PCIe 4.0. In most games/benchmarks, the FPS difference is MAYBE 1%... or less.

obsidian lark
#

@lethal charm Thank you so much for the info! Yeah that is what i stumbled up on also when i researched the topic. I was still unsure, so thank you very much for the confirmation 🙂

lethal charm
#

Yvw - good luck in your shopping. I have everything bought (and on its way) except the PSU. Can't find a good one in stock.

obsidian lark
#

@lethal charm I wish you good luck too! Lets hope the prices of the 3000-Series will be somewhat affordable 😄

lethal charm
#

Oh, they are. I went with a Ryzen 5 3600x for a gamping PC. Should be plenty, at a great value (currently $45 off)

#

This will be my first AMD build. I wanted to save some $ compared to Intel prices.

vital falcon
#

Think I found a newer/better MB for the PC I want to build... the MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard .... one thing I do like about it, no IO shield... lol

summer sleet
#

so idrk intel stuff at all, what is the board that supports a i5 4460?

split copper
#

that's LGA 1150 isn't it

naive pendant
#

I'm getting a new cpu for my birthday and they are getting me a i3-10300 should I get that or switch it?

split copper
#

Haswell gang

#

@naive pendant what CPU do you have at the moment?

naive pendant
#

A i5 9900k

split copper
naive pendant
#

Oops that's what I mean

#

Yeah that's what I got

#

Wait idk what I have

#

Let me watch a tutorial

#

Ouk

#

On how to check what my specs are

split copper
naive pendant
#

Oh found it

#

It says 9900KS

split copper
naive pendant
#

Yes

summer sleet
#

so for ddr3 memory would 4 4 gig sticks be dual channel still?

naive pendant
#

That one

split copper
#

@summer sleet on a dual channel board, yes

summer sleet
#

ok thanks

naive pendant
#

It says i9

split copper
#

keep the i9 in your system lmao

naive pendant
#

Idk anything about PC's

#

They just hired someone to build it for me

summer sleet
#

and also do server ram can be used in a regular system yeah?

gritty meadow
#

depends on the ram @summer sleet

devout mothBOT
#
Myst#2707 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gritty meadow
#

no need for language like that @naive pendant

naive pendant
#

OK WAIT question

summer sleet
gritty meadow
#

that should work, but generally you dont use ECC ram in machines that dont actually need it

#

mainly because of cost but also because most ECC ram is not all that fast

summer sleet
#

alright thanks

naive pendant
#

What is better a i3 9100f or a i5 2550k

gritty meadow
#

9100f

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not a good cpu, but it is faster than the 2550k

naive pendant
#

What is a good 75-100 dollar price range CPU

long geyser
#

R3 3100. I suggest trying to spend the extra $20 over budget for a 3300x

rough lava
#

looking for a good recommendation for a AMD atx mobo, looking for one that can at least run ddr4 3600 and be able to upgrade in future

stiff kraken
#

i hear good things about asus tuf x570

#

unfortunately unless you're willing to wait for b550, x570 is your only choice for "able to upgrade in future"

#

@rough lava

#

b450 boards are off the table unless you want to buy a 3600 now and upgrade to a 3900x or something later

rough lava
#

So the better option would be wait for newer gen to come out huh, im not in desperate need for a new pc rn but I was just starting to plan for a new one

#

@stiff kraken

stiff kraken
#

you could

deft pewter
#

What is better a i3 9100f or a i5 2550k
@naive pendant I think you should wait for ryzen 4000,4 core gaming is outdated, at least you should buy a six core 12thread cpu, it will last longer than 6core 6 thread cpu. 3600x is not a bad option, I think you should wait for b550 motherboard and 4000series cpu

frigid whale
#

I'm back! With the same issue as before. Lol

#

Is it possible. That my case and the power button cables. Would work for my old motherboard but not my new one for some reason???

weak hamlet
#

??

#

did you get a new mobo, and it's not turning on with the same case?

frigid whale
#

Yes. It's doing the same thing as the one I returned to Newegg.
Just the RGB lights nothing else.

weak hamlet
#

first time seeing you so I don't know your story 😄

frigid whale
#

I might have gone to the wrong thread sorry. Haha

weak hamlet
#

RGB lights on what/

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the motherboard/

frigid whale
#

The motherboard yes

acoustic imp
#

Does the msi 450 gaming plus support 3600 DDR4

weak hamlet
#

check the website

acoustic imp
#

Ok

ionic hamlet
#

For the person having the issue with their motherboard, did you check the RAM and make sure it was seated properly?

#

Also, check the front panel connectors. It's really easy to hook them up wrong and cause the power button to not work. (But that's just a matter of unplugging them and connecting them the right way to fix.)

acoustic imp
#

Ok thank

frigid whale
#

Yes all seated properly

#

Question about video card needing to be installed for amd to boot

#

Is that true?

#

Because my next question is. Does it matter which pci slot it's in for that rule?

ionic hamlet
#

Well, you need a video card installed to get any output to a monitor unless you have an AMD CPU with integrated graphics.

weak hamlet
#

which amd processor do you have @frigid whale

#

if it's any X or non X variant you'll need discreet gpu.

#

if it has a G at the end, you do not.

frigid whale
#

AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor

weak hamlet
#

yep

#

you need gpu for that

frigid whale
#

Because my next question is. Does it matter which pci slot it's in for that rule?
@frigid whale

sharp blaze
#

ideally it would go it would go in the pcie slot closest to the cpu

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that is the only slot that is x16

#

the second slot will run x8

#

third slot is x4 and can lose pcie lanes or be disabled if it shares resources with the m.2 or sata slots

ionic hamlet
#

Sorry if it seems like I'm asking some really obvious questions.

plush timber
#

is there a way to see why my CPU is at 99% all the time?

mild jackal
#

ctrl shift escape

plush timber
#

i've looked in task manager and yeah i have software running like lightspeed with 4 screens and chrome but 99% ? seem sot be struggling. older processor too

#

yeah i cant do that

#

i mean i cant see much in there. it say s99% but barely anything is using CPU. plus theres a LOT of extras open that i dont recall ever using

#

lightspeed is hogging a lot of resources and chrome is a laggard in general

#

maybe theres something i can change in settings of the chip? i dont know. its an older fx 4350 but been going strong for 5 or so yeras now

potent dew
#

Is 18 CAS memory slower?

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than 16 CAS

midnight pollen
#

yes

#

lower cas is better

potent dew
#

Okay

#

Why are all the 3600MHz kits 18CAS?

olive umbra
#

not all are

potent dew
#

With 32GB modules

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Meant to add that

#

All the 32GB modules I can find are 18 CAS

midnight pollen
#

you can find cas or cl16 memory but lately i've seen a lot of them be either out of stock or cost a lot

midnight pollen
#

yup

potent dew
#

Ahh

#

thx

#

Wait does Crucial RAM work with iCue?

#

I've never used iCue before so I have no clue

olive umbra
#

not that I can see, but it will work with mobo software

#

if you have an asus board, iCUE can talk to aura

hollow thorn
#

3600mhc cl16 is gud

midnight pollen
potent dew
#

Okay

left edge
#

Funny story the Ryzen 3 3300x kills my old processor

#

2700x

#

I'm getting a Ryzen 7 3700x today

pulsar crane
#

i thought the 3600x has similar performance to a 2700x

stray vortex
#

quick question about the corsair RGB pro RAM

#

so I just got mine today, but one of the sticks appears to be out of sync sometimes with the others, I swapped it into a different slot, and now it and another stick are out of sync sometimes. is there a correct order I'm supposed to install them in?

#

feel free to @ me with your thoughts

tacit hemlock
#

@pulsar crane for gaming a 3600x out performs a 2700x decently. For bigger workload stuff tho the 2700x edges it out a little

deep vigil
#

@stray vortex are you runnning at duel channel?

#

@stray vortex heres a guide how to use aura syce with icue

#

or you can just download icue

sudden coral
#

What's a good pair for the 1660 ti? Also I may upgrade more in the future

tacit hemlock
#

A 3600 would be a good fit for almost any gpu lol

#

What do you plan to upgrade tho? The cpu or gpu?

sudden coral
#

GPU hopefully

#

How many cores was 3600 again?

#

just curious

#

GTA is a bit of a CPU chugger so

tacit hemlock
#

6 cores

#

It'll do well

#

It has basically the same single core performance as a 3700x

stray vortex
#

@deep vigil I have icue already, and yeah they're in dual channel, since there's 4 sticks

humble dome
#

hey guys, i currently have a ryzen 5 2600 and will be getting a 3000 series in the future. i currently have a b350 motherboard and am looking to upgrade. im not super interested in the super fast nvme speeds that the x570 can give, but it it worth spending around $200-ish for a x570 motherboard for future-proofing purposes than around $150-$160 for a b450?

crude path
#

well if you are hoping to eventually upgrade to the 4000 series, it wont be supported by b450 boards (According to amd) but will be supported by x570 boards. Plus you get the added benefits that come with x570 like pcie 4.0. its really up to you though. I ended up going with an x470 pro (before the announcement that 4000 series will only support b550 and x570)

humble dome
#

ohh ok

#

do you know of a good x570 motherboard around $200-$220? (that's around my pricerange)

#

i really dont know much about motherboards

#

ryzen 5 2600, 16gb corsair vengeance 3600mhz, rtx 2060

crude path
#

I've heard good things about the asus x570 steel legend, which is around 200

humble dome
#

do you mean asrock?

#

i see a asrock steel legend

crude path
#

oh woops

#

hold on

#

alright for asus, if i remember correctly, rog strix is good, prime is good (and the upgraded version of what i have), but the tuff boards are bad? I think?

I think the steel legend is good but im not entirely sure. I havent looked to much into 570 boards tbh.

humble dome
#

ahh gotcha

#

motherboards are selling at such an inflated price right now lol

tacit hemlock
#

And stock is crazy rn

crude path
#

yeah i just noticed that lol. most pc parts are

humble dome
#

so i see the rog strix rn is selling at $300? is that inflated? or is that the normal price?

crude path
#

when everything was deserted at the beginning of the epidemic, the micro center near me had a line wrapped around the building

#

i think thats inflated but im not sure on the actual prices of those mobos.

#

the rog strix I pulled up is selling at 700 Squirtlederp

tacit hemlock
#

Yikes

humble dome
#

yeah im looking at the same thing rn haha

crude path
#

if your system works well right now, i wouldn't bother upgrading until this whole thing blows over.

humble dome
#

yeah i wasn't planning on buying a motherboard rn. just researching

crude path
#

also if you have a microcenter near you, check there, although the stock might be low by now

humble dome
#

nearest one to me is 4:33 away oof

#

ill probably just wait

#

good to know though

crude path
#

4 hours and 33 minutes away?

humble dome
#

yeah

crude path
#

oof

humble dome
#

georgia .o.

crude path
#

lol they have the best deals on pc parts ive found so far and if not they price match. I dont think a 4.5 hour drive is worth it though

humble dome
#

^

#

will spend more in gas than you're saving haha

crude path
#

lol for me its 1 hour or 30 min by toll way. I've pretty much only gotten pc parts from them

humble dome
#

ahh

#

which location is yours in?

crude path
#

what do you mean

humble dome
#

state

crude path
#

oh texas

humble dome
#

ah gotcha

crude path
#

theres a few in texas tho

humble dome
#

texas is basically a country lol

crude path
#

you have no idea lol

humble dome
#

lmaoo

crude path
#

take a 20 hour drive to california. 18 of it is just texas.

humble dome
#

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

#

im a regular now pog

crude path
#

yep. you can now share links and images

humble dome
#

oh neat

crude path
humble dome
#

alrighty, thanks for the help regarding the motherboards! have a good night!

crude path
#

no problem and you as well!

tulip talon
#

Yo does anyone know how to tell the difference from 1600 to 1600 af

crude path
#

one is a 1600 and one is a 1600 as frick

#

no i found this online: The 1600 AF is a Zen+ based CPU, as opposed to the 1600 (non AF) which is Zen based.

Basically that means the 1600 AF rivals the second gen Ryzen 5 2600 and is altogether a better choice than the 1600 (non AF).

tacit hemlock
#

Notice the model numbers

tulip talon
#

ok cool thanks

viral marlin
#

Got a question, I have an i76700 and 2133 speed ram 2x8, and a 2060 super and the card at times on games like gta v or ark it struggles with 1080p let alone 1440, would my cpu and ram be bottleneck my system?

#

I also when no clue realy where to ask this question but is is mostly pertaining to cpu and ram that's why this is here

midnight pollen
#

the ram is a lower speed for today, most going at 3200MHz and above. it also depends on the game, like if it cpu or gpu intensive. also idk about gta but ark i hear isn't very well optimized

viral marlin
#

So it would Most likely be a ram issue?

midnight pollen
#

in what way is it struggling, what fps are you getting?

viral marlin
#

Just extremely low fps for a 2060 super

#

It will go from it ding fine 70fps wish is normalish, then drop to 40fps for no reason then when I move its fine

hollow thorn
#

GTA isn't too optimized, but you're still getting low frames

naive pendant
#

@viral marlin It might be the ram cause it is very slow for today @midnight pollen was right about 3200MHz being today's average for most people

viral marlin
#

ok thx 👍

#

1 more question actualy can the i7 6700 actualy suport faster ram?

storm moon
#

my opinion on this is that's its more up to the motherboards chipset on what it can support you might be able to put 3200 in there but the chipset is going to treat it as if its only 2133 though you might be able to overclock it to 3200? The motherboard might be able to support a faster CPU in its class so what you need to do is download/run CPU-Z if don't know what your motherboard is then look it up and see what it supports in terms of CPU and Ram.

gritty meadow
#

@storm moon cpu-z just reads what is (also) visible on the mainboard manufacturers site

dusty yacht
#

Hello all,

I am looking to buy an AsRock B450 Pro4 motherboard to use with the Ryzen 3600, both sold by newegg. Will the motherboard be updated and Ryzen 3600 compatible out of the box? I am not able to update the motherboard myself.

weak hamlet
#

does newegg specs tell you anything

#

should tell you if its ryzen 1st 2nd and 3rd gen ready

#

huh weird

#

it doesn't

dusty yacht
#

Yeah, unfortunately, it doesn't specify

weak hamlet
#

so on the box

#

I see 2000 ready

#

so it'll need an update 😦

dusty yacht
#

I'd hate to have to spend an extra $100 for an X570, I could drop my GPU of choice from an 5700XT to a GTX1660ti to compensate

#

Hmm

#

ok

weak hamlet
#

I had to go to asrock website

dusty yacht
#

Right, i suppose it's safe to assume it isn't out of the box compatible with 3rd gen

#

thank you

tacit hemlock
#

that's interesting

weak hamlet
#

and I know mobo's are hard to find right now

worn plover
#

my mobo that i got for 150 is now 500$ usd

weak hamlet
#

@dusty yacht does it have to be asrock?

dusty yacht
#

Nope, any will do

weak hamlet
#

around the 100-150 range?

#

.ca of course

dusty yacht
#

yes, im in canada

#

ideally around 100-150 but if it's a bit over, that's alright

#

And really hoping to keep the mobo under 200

weak hamlet
#

Supports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen/2nd Gen Ryzen/1st Gen Ryzen / 2nd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics/1st Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Processors

#

Supports 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen / Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Desktop Processors for Socket AM4

#

and that's really about it

dusty yacht
#

thank you! looks very promising, one of the reviews also confirms that theirs was gen 3 compatible out of the box

#

Think I will go with this!

warped scroll
#

I’ve used a B450M Pro4 before. It came with a sticker on it saying it’s Ryzen 3000 ready

serene quiver
#

how would would a used i5-6600 go for?

charred venture
#

check ebay

compact sun
#

aanyone help me fix my bois to see the new memory i jsut bought form you guygs?

#

*guys

#

i have a ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) (LGA1151) and a Intel Core i7 @ 3.70GHz 29 °C
Coffee Lake 14nm Technology

#

upgraded my crucible 2666 to so corsair 3600.....

crude path
#

you shouldn't need to do a bios update but if you want to get the 3600 mhz, just enable the DOCP or XMP profile in the bios

compact sun
#

ya i did that already from the other memory i had, had to set it back to auto for it to boot

#

it went into safe mode

crude path
#

so is it working now then?

#

or are you still in safe mode?

compact sun
#

its working but it only sees the morory as unknown @1071mhz

crude path
#

what are you using to see it saying unknown

compact sun
#

asus mem tweaker and speccy

#

if i switch it back to the xmp profile, it should auto see it at that point before i reboot, correct?

crude path
#

ok just go into bios and enable the DOCP or XMP and reboot.

#

it should set it to 3600 mhz

compact sun
#

ok ill try that and be back 🙂

#

i dont know what to di in the mem tweatit......i dont weanna blow anything up....

crude path
#

dont change anything. just enable XMP. if it doesnt boot, just clear cmos

compact sun
#

ok brb

#

seems to only see th eold profile xmp ddr4-3597 18-22-22-42-1 now it only sees it as 32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (18-22-22-42)

#

aaqh....there is a firmware update for the memory....:)

#

so how do i clear the cmos?

crude path
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unplug the power cord, look for the little battery, take it out for 10 minutes, plug it back in, plug power back in, turn on.

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it may take a minute to boot but make sure you unplug it first cause if it has power it will not reset the cmos.

compact sun
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that still works?

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ok cool i will try it here in a bit

crude path
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yeah thats how you clear the CMOS. some mobos have a button for it or pins you can short out too

compact sun
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ok thanks 🙂 have a great night

hollow thorn
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Usually you can get away with just having it out for a minutes or so, pressing the power button to help discharge the power left in the board

compact sun
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keeps booting in safe mode

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or that profile which see's it in 1066ish....

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any more ideas?

zealous storm
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Worth getting b550?

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I have x570 but just curious

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Might make a build for little cousin

ionic hamlet
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Still a month before b550 comes out

deep vigil
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X570 is “beter than b550

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X570 has beter power delivery pretyy sure

rare phoenix
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I'm torn between the 3400G or the 3300X for a mini ITX build, what do you guys think? Provided I have a graphics card does the 3400G provide any benefits over the 3300X to justify the $50 difference?

deep vigil
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If yoi have a beefy collet becuade you can oc the 3300x a ton

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Someone oc a 3300x to 5ghz

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But that was eith liquid nitrogen

rare phoenix
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It's a mini ITX, I ordered a low profile noctua cooler. The noctua NH-L9a.

deep vigil
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Im not too sure but the 3300x is on newer architecture

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And supports pcie4

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If that means anything to you

rare phoenix
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Okay, I've been leaning towards it anyhow. I'll wait for it to come back up in stock somewhere, thanks.

deep vigil
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It also looks like it has better gaming performance than the 3600 in the bench im watching

gritty meadow
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@rare phoenix re: does the 3400G provide any benefit over the 3300x: Long story short? No.

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in your specific context, it does not

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it is the slower of the two

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(and yes, i know, model numbers etc, just nod and say yes)

deep vigil
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Lol

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Wait I though he said 3300x provide benifits over 3400g

gritty meadow
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nope, other way around :)

deep vigil
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Well the 3300x is beter if you got the dgpu

hollow thorn
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3300x > 3400g afaik in terms of cpu performance?

gritty meadow
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yes

rare phoenix
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Thanks guys.

olive umbra
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If I'm not mistaken, isn't the 3400G a Zen+ part as opposed to Zen 2?

winged stream
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hey so the asrock b450 steel legend spec list on newegg says that it supports up to 3200mhz ram on ryzen 3000, but i have 3600mhz ram, will that be a problem?

charred venture
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nah, it just wont perform on the 3600 speed

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it will be fully compatible :))

winged stream
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alright cool, thanks!

fathom grail
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hey everyone, getting ready to swap out my mobo, cpu and RAM. i watched a few videos that showed how to switch your microsoft account to online so you don't lose you windows installation but i have windows 7 and it doesn't work on that because all accounts are local. read something about deleting drivers but i don't know which ones to delete and saw this about unistalling drivers in the bios when you boot from the new mobo. any advice?

kind flower
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If your not swapping out your storage, you shouldn’t have a problem

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@fathom grail

warped scroll
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No

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I’ve swapped the hard drive from an old PC into a new one and windows became inactivated.

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Sometimes it doesn’t even let you log in

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It didn’t like some certain systems

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But if you get an external drive and do a full drive image to transfer, I believe it will be okay

kind flower
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Don’t listen to what I said I’m a noob

sharp flume
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any suggestions for a decent matx motherboard for around $100

kind flower
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Only get a Matx board if you have a Matx case

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@sharp flume

sharp flume
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Thanks that fits what i need. I will be getting a matx case

fathom grail
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does anyone who's not a self-proclaimed noob have any advice lmao

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@warped scroll so i need to clone to an external even though i have a hdd in there already?

kind flower
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Yams is not a noob, I am

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So listen to yams

warped scroll
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Why don’t you just upgraded to windows 10 @fathom grail

ionic hamlet
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Yeah, sadly Windows 7 is dead. No more official support

midnight pollen
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I mean some companies can pay for additional support i believe, but it ain't worth it

fathom grail
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i'll look into it

charred venture
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wait i swapped out my hdd from my old pc and threw in a sshd, and once I installed windows, it was activated

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it was from a prebuilt so I'm thinking mobo recognition?

warped scroll
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Motherboard keeps windows key

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You can upgrade everything except the mobo and windows will still be activated

charred venture
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aight so if kennedy swaps out mobo windows will no longer be activated yeah/

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?

warped scroll
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yep

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Unless he associates the windows key with his account

ionic hamlet
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Honestly, since he's got 7 I'd recommend going ahead and upgrading to Windows 10. Skip 8, 8 sucks.

warped scroll
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Windows 8 bad

fathom grail
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8 definitely sucks

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any advice on how to upgrade? tool didn't work but i'm looking at downloading as if i'm putting 10 on another device and mounting it to an iso

crude path
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you're trying to upgrade your cpu mobo and ram but not lose windows? am i correct?

fathom grail
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yes!

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but i have windows 7 and can't build an online account from it

crude path
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okay, you should be able to upgrade it to 10 for free from windows 7 if you want to do that

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are you afraid of losing everything?

fathom grail
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i'm trying to but i'm getting a language error

crude path
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weird

fathom grail
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tried mounting to a usb and iso and getting "there was a problem running this tool"

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and yes definitely afraid of losing everything lol

crude path
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do you have one hard drive or 2?

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as for the language error, try remaking the usb install tool. ive gotten that issue and had to remake it 3 times before it worked for me 🤷‍♂️

fathom grail
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1 internal 1 external

crude path
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what all are you wanting to keep?

fathom grail
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and for the remake, you're saying just start from the beginning with the tool and eventually the error goes away?

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and everything, files programs etc

crude path
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so generally its recommended to do a fresh install when upgrading your components so that there aren't any conflicting drivers. You can do a fresh install while keeping your files, but all apps and settings will be deleted when you upgrade or do a fresh install.

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did you create a USB tool or are you trying to upgrade your pc from the app itself?

fathom grail
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i've tried it all 3 ways and nothing works

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from what it sounds like though you're saying it's best to write it to usb, upgrade my components and then upgrade 7 to 10?

gritty meadow
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i think you might be misunderstanding how the process works @fathom grail

fathom grail
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doing my best

gritty meadow
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please keep the following in mind: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers

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when you made the USB tool. Can you explain how you did that?

crude path
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I would upgrade to windows 10 before you upgrade your components so that you can attach the key to an online account. Failling that, you can just buy a new key for 5$ so if it doesn't go as planned Don't fret to much.

fathom grail
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i downloaded the windows 10 update tool, am attempting to write the upgrade to a 16GB usb. i keep getting the message that there was a problem running this tool

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow
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hm

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you got access to another machine?

fathom grail
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and ok @crude path i will keep that in mind, gonna try the tool a couple more times

crude path
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ill be back on later

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gotta go

fathom grail
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yes @gritty meadow i'll try to write it on my laptop

gritty meadow
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please do

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because "normally" that tool works just fine

fathom grail
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yeah i'm seeing that other people have had the same issue as me though

gritty meadow
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BUT windows 7 is old by now, so heck knows if there is something in your particular version/install of it that is blocking things

fathom grail
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looks like windows has the ISO i'm just trying to find it

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that's what i'm thinking

gritty meadow
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"looks like windows has the ISO i'm just trying to find it" <- elaborate

fathom grail
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it says there's a problem with language but i only have english

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i'm reading a "windows 10 manual upgrade" article and it mentions that i can download the ISO directly but the link to the ISO doesn't work anymore lol

gritty meadow
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2sec

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there you go, that is the tool download

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the tool can either directly download the iso or directly make the usb for you

fathom grail
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oh i think maybe it's because i have content on the usb

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didn't realize it had to be blank

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so this is crazy, this website you sent looks different on my laptop than on my pc

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i guess because i already have windows 10 on here

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seems like the iso is working on my laptop

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will update

gritty meadow
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before you do anything

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backup the files you absolutely NEED to keep

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because there are no guarantees

fathom grail
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ok bet

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can i just make a clone of my current system somehow?

gritty meadow
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only if you have a drive that is big enough

fathom grail
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hmm true

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can i check how much i need

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or would it just be the full amount of C that i have taken up right now

gritty meadow
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its the amount of space you have used

fathom grail
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ok i definitely don't have a drive big enough for that then

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might have to go pick one up

gritty meadow
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Why is it that you want to keep everything?

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because you are hopefully aware that the moment you upgrade, the things you keep are not guaranteed to work

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(programs etc)

fathom grail
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i don't really mind about the programs, i can reinstall pretty much any programs i need but i'm mostly worried about files

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i wasn't but you said i should make a backup lol

gritty meadow
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you mean your documents etc?

fathom grail
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yes

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not really worried about programs

gritty meadow
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then that is all you need to make a backup off

fathom grail
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is there a wizard for that or do i just do it manually

gritty meadow
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you just manually copy it to the external drive

fathom grail
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ok gotca

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gotcha

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best buy has an EVO and that's what i wanted anyways so i might just go grab that and clone

gritty meadow
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you are just moving the hot potato

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you are not solving the problem

fathom grail
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what do you mean

gritty meadow
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go and figure out what files you need to backup, then do that.

fathom grail
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i don't want to go through and pick what i'm trying to keep as my hdd has 132G free out of a TB

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that's a lot to go through right now

gritty meadow
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that is your lack of foresight, i cannot do anything about that.

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but, 95% of that data is not actually things you need to keep

fathom grail
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ok lmao

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that's not really the point though

long geyser
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@gritty meadow was it you or Forks that showed that program for what folders take up space on a drive?

gritty meadow
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Forks

hollow thorn
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windirstat

fathom grail
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i get that i need to go through it at some point, i've been meaning to. but that's a week long process and i just want to upgrade. seems like making a clone in case i lose anything and being able to go through it later is a better process to me

gritty meadow
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@fathom grail the point is: if you dont have a backup, there is nothing i can recommend that is safe to do. (in your current context)

fathom grail
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right i'm just saying the amount of content i have currently would be hard to go through when i can clone a backup for now

gritty meadow
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and if you buy a drive for doing that, you are "moving the problem along AKA moving the hot potato"

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but as mentioned, it is your choice :)

fathom grail
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well i want the drive anyways i'm just trying to make sure i don't lose anything

hollow thorn
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It's best you just go through the files, it doesn't take that long.

fathom grail
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even if i go through the files i likely don't have a device that would hold everything i want to keep anyways

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my biggest drive is a 320G external and it's halfway full

hollow thorn
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Documents don't take much space, programs do

fathom grail
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i'm not trying to be difficult btw

gritty meadow
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we dont see it as you being difficult

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this is just a debate/conversation about your situation :)

fathom grail
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ok cool lol

gritty meadow
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at the end of the day, you are the one that has the data that might get lost

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not any of us

fathom grail
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i feel that and i want to take the precautions for sure

gritty meadow
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IF you want to do a clone, you are going to either need a second USB or use the USB that you have the windows install on

fathom grail
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so back to the upgrade though, once i go through my files and make a backup, i have the ISO now from my laptop that i'm going to put on a flash drive and transfer to my desktop

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what i don't want to copy the OS just the files

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*what if

gritty meadow
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notice the "IF"

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re: windows install: the media creation tool makes a USB capable of booting up and installing windows ONTO a drive.

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which means, after you have run the media creation tool on your laptop, you can then take the usb and plug it into the desktop and power on the desktop and select the usb as the bootdrive

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does all of that make sense?

fathom grail
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what if I transfer the ISO to my HDD? can i boot from that?

gritty meadow
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not how it works

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the ISO is a "snapshot" that can be used to make something a copy of something else

fathom grail
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can you make a list of steps i need to do now that i have the ISO on my laptop

gritty meadow
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did you not just run the media creation tool ?

fathom grail
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i did, it created an ISO that i'm copying to a flash drive

gritty meadow
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you could have just pointed the media creation tool at the drive

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that is the main purpose of the tool

fathom grail
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i think i tried that but the drive wasn't blank so it didn't write to it

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maybe that's just because i tried to do it on the PC

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i'll try to write to usb on the laptop

gritty meadow
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it should work

fathom grail
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ok clearing the usb now

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gonna take a bit

fathom grail
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ok usb cleared, writing to usb now

naive pendant
#

Duck

sharp cairn
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Will a current Ryzen 5 3600 X work on a b550 motherboard that's coming out?

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I'm building and I just heard about the 550 chipset, currently I'm on an old piece of poop

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This is what I've come up with, but I just found out that the b550 comes out next month

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Will the 3600X that I have in that setup work on a b550 motherboard that's coming out next month?

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Also what kind of RAM will I need?

gritty patio
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Everything should be compatible

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Also

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Does anyone know how long b550 will last because isn't AM4 only lasting until the end of this year so technically we'd have to upgrade again on the 5000series?

sharp cairn
gritty patio
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I think i'll get a b450

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b550 isnt gonna last very long lmao

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i'm only gonna upgrade every few years or so regardless

sharp cairn
#

Same.

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It's been 8 years for me

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My current board

gritty patio
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damn lmao

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its only been 4 years for

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me

sharp cairn
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Old. And sometimes when I plug he was bees into a USB 3.0 port on the back of the motherboard slash tower my whole PC freezes