#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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I believe you can go as high as 2666
I have an acer aspire e5-576-392H and it actually takes ddr3
It has 8th gen i3
It's best to just crack open the laptop and look at the ram stick to see if it'ss ddr3 or ddr4
May not be the case for this laptop though
no need..
thanks for this website! i couldnt find a compatibility website
crucial is my go to for laptops 🙂
so this https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/ct8g4sfs8266/ct9151482 would be the best
doubles your current ram.
Reason: Bad word usage
ooof
its ok
we can make it decent
slap an ssd in it aswell
that will help your loading time x100000
yea that was the next thing after i got the memory fixed haha
looks like you have sata m.2 and a 2.5 slot
do you know what harddrive you have in it currently?
1tb?
is it cer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM
??
in the m.2 slot?
ooo no the ssd XD my bad didnt read that
128gb and thats it? only drive?
triple checking
just trying to see if you have a 128 m.2 ssd
but my company is cheap lol
and a blank 2.5 harddrive bay
if that's the case e z p z... any 2.5 ssd will work for storage upgrade
oofta ya 128 is all this bad boys got
What do I do if my graphics card isnt getting power
Everything is plugged in
@brazen cradle oh yea arma forgot about that, what settings do you want me to try
and what do you want me to play to benchmark it
Uh Idk
Are you going to stream it ?
@hollow thorn
Try uh high setting and multiplayer
I don’t know the game modes
Tho
I’m pretty sure you can stream it on discord or twitch if you prefer
Rivatuner ?
okay couldnt completely get riva tuner working
but
Whenever it completely uploads to youtube... which might take 10 15minutes... @brazen cradle
https://youtu.be/LjDXRh5BfZU
didn't bother for the rest of the graphs
only got framerate
Eh multiplayer is close enough to campaign
Oh
I also don't have DLCs
It’s still uploading
Do you need dlc to play multiplayer?
No, but dlc adds more modes
Oh
the fact that these arent centered between the lines
this is actually mildly infuriating
god damn it why isnt it doing the thing
sudden Russia Syndrome
@brazen cradle works now
@hollow thorn yea i saw bro , I’ll tell you my reaction once I finish this video about CPU’s
plug it jn b e t t e r
make sure the wire is in all the way in both the psu and hpu
and if thats not it get a new wire
and if its not the wire then u have a dead gpu
@hollow thorn very entertaining footage , I was actually excited but then out of no where the video ended lol
80 frames is like the average which is good for a game that un optimized
@brazen cradle I was like huh I got carried away lemme just end it here
Lol
It was entertaining tho
Wait what next gen ryzen is coming in July ?
Hopefully they support b450 boards
@hollow thorn
They say no, but we'll have to see
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AMD's Ryzen 4000 Desktop APUs are amazing, Nvid...
And apparently intel will be out in June
So I’ll have more options BUT the cost tho ..
@hollow thorn so in June / July is when hopefully they will be released since I kinda wanna have a pc before the summer sales happen on steam
Nice
im not sure whats wrong but a lot of my games take a long time to load in. tarkov, pubg, fortnite all take a good amount to load into a game. ive never been too fast to load in but definitely not this slow and i think it may be a RAM problem
Take a look at task manager when something loads
when loading into a game?
Yeah
remember when companies had motherboards in stock
what is timing on ram/memory
@narrow siren those are all online multiplayer games aren't they?
yea
When loading an online match, there will always be a player who has the weakest computer and/or internet of the bunch, and as a result, the match will only start once their computer catches up.
That's one reason loading could be abysmal
That always happened when I played Robocraft...I have 5Mbps down, 0.5Mbps up internet, but even my internet was beastly in comparison with that of one person in the match
Robocraft servers are prob pretty dead now
Freejam stopped support for it like a year ago
Idk, haven't played in a long time, but I still see news from them about it on Steam, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're still running
@split copper Tarkov servers do not wait for other computers and its not an internet problem
u have an ssd right
Reason: Duplicated text
Weird
Yea
ok boys hear me out, i hav =e x570 so dont need a new board for 4000 so should i wait or just get a 3950x?
wait
tight
3950 price drop
big brain
i have a 2600, i can wait
suprisingly some games i play keep all threads at 70%
30% head room \o/
I'm planning to get a Ryzen 3600.
thtas also while streaming, having discord open, xbox console companion and itunes open
the 3600 isnt as good of a value as a lot of bit youtubers make it to be i never understood that
yeah
lol
I thought a 3600 was considered pretty decent... especially with the fact it's consistently selling at 175 dollars lately.
All AMD said is that all b450/x470 boards arent guaranteed to support Zen3. Not that all b450/x470 would lack Zen3 support
Eh, misread message. Thought you were getting x570 for Zen3 support
yeah, i already have x570
I'm planning to get a b550 board once they're out, but not going to wait for the 4000 CPUs.
why not
Because who knows when they're coming out? The b550 boards are coming next month
and who knows if b550 will have amazing valued boards like b450 mATX Tuf Pro. I wouldnt suggest only thinking about b550 yet
that's cap
And well, I sort of have a time limit on when I can do this sort of thing. I'll be too busy come fall to have time to put together a PC. It'll either be this summer or December and frankly I don't want to wait 'till the end of the year.
Same , I was really hoping to build a pc by summer but I sadly might wait for the new gpu and CPU’s to release in like 3/4 months
Tuff but hopefully it’ll be worth the wait and I hope that they aren’t extra expensive
@narrow siren ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Dang that’s tuff how only b550 and x570 boards are compatible with the next gen ryzen CPU’s
@brazen cradle All AMD said is that all b450/x470 boards arent guaranteed to support Zen3. Not that all b450/x470 would lack Zen3 support
Oh
So
If I get a b450 I could possibly upgrade and put 4th gen cpu on it ? @long geyser
And is there a way of knowing which b450 mobo won’t support the next gen cpu
Maybe. No other words have been spoken about this so cant say much
Hm ok
Would a b450 thomahawk work with a radeon rx 5700xt?
I'm torn between the Gigabyte X570 I and Asus X570 I for my 3700x ITX build. Is the Asus board worth the added cost?
kevin - best bet would be to use the 'Compare' feature on newegg.com to show the two side-by-side.
Tip #1: Turn "Recommendations" OFF, in the upper-right.
Tip #2: select "Highlight - Differences" from drop-down in upper left.
@tender flint ^
...
I've had a heck of a time trying to find x570 motherboards in stock (across several sites). However, I'm now thinking I don't need an x570 motherboard for my setup.
GPU: Radeon 5700 MECH OC
Standard SATA SSD
What's the best intel prossesor
i910900k
what's a good AM4 board comparable to the B450 Tomahawk Max (out of stock everywhere)? pref. one that will not need flashed for 3600 support
@hollow thorn if you got no budget I though intel is still ontop
ye he said gaming
3990x
AMD kinda messed up, heard the news
???
Spill
@daring patio they said it was about bios sizes so we'll have to see on mobo manufacture's end
@tacit hemlock no offcial support for 4th gen on b450 and x470
Oh I knew that lol
Please clarify - no support for 4th gen -what- ?
4th cpus
4th generation Ryzen
Ok. We're at 3rd/4th gen CPUs, while also going into PCI-e 3.0/4.0... so wanted to make sure.
Thank you.
Np
I've circled around my motherboard choices a dozen times in the past 2 weeks.
Learning more, but it's giving me headaches. 😕
@hollow thorn I thought msi's max series specificly tried to fix that issue and increased the bios size
I swa the hardware unboxed video, he did a nice jub explaining
I have a question: do Asus prime Z370 will accept i9-9900k?
I am looking to upgrade my cpu after freezing on planet zoo game
buy the 9700k if you want to be safe
Does anyone know if most retailers would have the ASUS TUF B450 Pro Gaming compatible out of the box with the ryzen 5 3600?
if you buy it from a reputable spot yeah
Gotcha, thanks. I got it from memoryexpress but they aren’t really the fastest to answer so just thought to ask here. Thanks for your help
what would be better to go with in terms of performance and price? (on a tight budget) a rog strix b450 f with a ryzen 5 3600, or the new b550 boards and a ryzen 4 3100x?
you mean ryzen 3 3100x?
You'll get more performance out of a 3600
And you won't have to wait for the b550 and 3100 to drop
b550 will drop about the time as 4000
basically giving no future upgrades
so ima just chill with suggesting b450
Is it best to buy right after a new gen releases?
when should I do my pc shopping + build?
@hollow thorn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Best time for pc shopping and building is Black Friday, then they have very good deals. If you get emails from Newegg they also have good deals everyday, depending on what ur looking for
cyber moday
does anybody know why z490 boards have “potential” pcie 4.0 support but 10th gen intel doesnt
@wet rapids acording to gigabyte next gen will be supported on same chip set
so they are just putting them out there for next gen
11th gen intel will be release same socket same chipset supposedly
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-z490-motherboards-intel-11th-gen-rocket-lake-cpus not sure if this sight is trust worty but this is what I have heard aswell
thats a rly dumb buisness plan
nobody is going to buy two proseccors in two years consecivly
you would be suprised
Intel fan detected
rather, Intel fan not detected, because neither person in proximity currently irradiates Intel waves
hey yall, looking to build a new facemelting PC. The current facemelter is about 4 years old. i7/6700, Asus ROG Hero VIII, 32 gigs. I'm doing music production now, and my son wants my PC for gaming. So I get an upgrade. Looking at the Ryzen 1950x with 64 gigs. Got ideas for best motherboard? I've had great luck with my ROG. So was looking at the Crosshair VIII.
Oh, and the G.Skill Trident Z EGB memory. DDR4-3600. Had good luck with that too. Only components i've had to replace were the water cooler (i110) and the power supply (died early, Coolermaster........replaced with EVGA, much better).
Wait, so are you looking at a Threadripper 1950x ..? @desert kindle
Also, what kind of workloads do you get for music production? More focused on single core perf, or just the more threads you can throw at it, the better?
Yes. The Digital Audio Software i use (Bitwig, as well as others) use "plug ins". For each "track" of a song you could have several of them, all busy doing something to the digital signal. Some of the software synths will bring your PC to it's knees. While I don't probably need 16 cores, I always future proof if the money works out. 🙂 Considered just going to 128 gigs of RAM but......as Bill Gates once said, who could ever need more than 640k of memory .....
mobo makes 1950x a meh deal
so
yeah, I need to do some more research.....not ready to buy/build yet.
cuz total price of 1950x+x399 is close to 3950x+basic x570
new to Discord, are youtube links not allowed? I just hit enter and a message disappeared I had typed....had a link in it.
DM
you have to be level 3 to post links i believe
It's for this specific server, Basically you need to be level 3 on this server
ah....gotcha.
level is just how many messages you sent
i'm a discord noob......
So tl:dr, there is a message threshold to be able to send links
Well, was working with some new software tonight, and finally got around to playing with Serato Studio. I have a trial of it. I think I will buy is at it's on sale right now too! It exceeded my expectations, including the ability to use custom samples as well as Plugins!...
@desert kindle most discord groups dont require a level to do such things. the admin of this server uses weggbot to mitigate and help keep spammers/trolls and such out because of how big this server is, so theres a leveling system that gives you exp once every minute for talking. when you hit level 3, you can post links and images. you can check your level by going to #ranks-and-levels and typing !rank
We should honestly save that message and quote it because it gets asked a lot
yeah but most dont read the pins so it doesn't matter lol. it doesnt hurt to answer it tho
cool, i get it.....gotta keep out the trolls and riff raff. I'm neither. 😉
@desert kindle Anyways so is it possible to demo it with task manager open?
I know it might sound like a weird request
but I don't know how music production hits the threads
like does it pin every thread to 100%, or does it, like gaming, only really use 8 threads or so
yeah.......i'd need to build a song. let me see if I have something that comes close.......the youtube link i wanted to share would give you an idea.
Yea I mean I see you doing stuff but idk how it's hitting the cpu
honestly macs are really expensive but work good for audio
latency is good for recording
i use one for work. worked for MSFT for 15 years, wanted something else when I left. But honestly this work one will be my last MAC. I just like to tinker too much. Win or Linux.
yeah, i have a Motu 4x4 USB audio interface. bypasses the audio card on ROG. best for low latency. using ASIO.
Do you need a lot of PCIe lanes? 1950x really isnt worth it if not
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TR Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYv9P3
not bad
I quickly ran siege's benchmark for a demonstration, games don't fully hit all the cores at all, a fair bit of load on like 4 threads, and everything else is chillin at like no load
most games won't have tons of multithreading :p
well, you want that latency and stability. Which in games can be looked at as 0.1% lows
which seems a general uplift, and I'd expect audio to be a bit more multi threaded then games
I understand
but I wanted to know if it just needed more threads, so 2nd or 3rd gen TR would be better, or it hit a few threads hard, so Ryzen.
ok, created something special for you. Unfortunately, the sound was being captures by my webcam MIC. It sounded pretty cool. 😉 But you can see the effect on CPU. It's uploading. Slow upload link. Hang on. I still need to be able to share the youtube link though. I can send it to Mr1111 and he can share back here?
send you the link. video turned out grainy, should have recorded on my 1080 screen. sound was only through my webcam....I screwed up. It was a quickie. I'll redo it later as it's interesting......
Fair nuff
ah I C
@long geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49VsaLfaU1k
Looks like a 3900x or something should do the trick
Quick test of using 4 (different) software synthesizers, all playing a simple series of notes over and over. Watch what they do to the CPU usage. As well, in Phase Plant, one of them used numerous analog and wavetable oscillators....and used a LOT of CPU.
Doesn't look like it's all core synthetic load
just hitting some threads hard
serum is pretty cpu intensive
yes, these are the same thing as Serum......Massive X, Arturia PIgments, Vengeance, and the orangish one is the really cool Phase Plant. That one patch had like 8 different oscilators in it. and it drove the cpu from 36 or so to over 50%. 😉
like and subscribe and i'll try to do a better capture soon .....kinda pulled this one out my butt for ya.
well, think i'll stick with the plan for 16 cores (+16 threads) and 64 gigs of RAM. thanks all for the eyes on it....hope you enjoyed the video. see you back here later. I have to crash out......I work for Redis Labs and we have our big (now virtual) online conference tomorrow. I have to man the "ask the experts" chat room. 🙂 I could play with this stuff all night though......it's addictive. (geek.....)
and maybe one day i'll graduate from Rookie and can post links.
whats a good motherboard thats less than tomahawk max?
@summer sleet oos, but Asus tuf b450 pro
Imma hold off for a little and get 10th gen
what you all think? for streaming and gaming: r5 1600AF or r3 3300x?
u mean r5 1600af :)
yea
probably 3300x
hi, whats a good cpu for a minecraft server for up to 100 people? have a budget around $250 but would prefer not to go that high so i can get more ram
hey does anyone know if the gigabte aorus b450 elite supports 3rd gen ryzen out of the box or do i need to update bios with a second or first gen
It's supposed to.
I still plan to get a Ryzen 3600.
what is more worth getting, the Intel Core i5-9600K or the Intel Core i7-9700K
Well basic spec sheet says i7
depends on your budget really
if you have the $ i would say the i7, if not then the i5 is a good chip
why not ryzen 3600 tho
Gaming vs Workstation
Hi, I need to find the right RAM for a mini bare bone pc I just ordered. (MSI Cubi-N-8GL) When the specs says: System Memory: DDR4 2400MHz up to 8GB (1 Slot) Does that mean that it won't support 2666MHz RAMs? And will it not support a 16GB RAM unit?
hey would a ryzen 5 3600 be enough for streaming and gaming?
nah you gotta get the ryzen 9
what about ryzen 7 3700x
but seriously though the ryzen 5, intel i5 is enough for streaming. some people use the gpu for encoding and that works perfectly fine.
ok thanks
np
@tall wedge if it has only one ram slot, it can only go up to 8gb 2400mhz
Thanks @weak hamlet I feared so.
gotta think that think is like the size of your hand no?
Yeah it's 4.57 x 4.41 x 1.75 inch - so not much room for anything
yeah
8gb still a big boost for it
going from 4.
basically doubling the ram size.
Yeah it's fine. Actually it's going to be delivered without RAM or disk. It's only because I have a 8GB 2666MHz in spare. So I hoped I could use that one
ah ok, great. Good news
Any idea when the 3300x will be released?
soon ™
Is a i5-2400 a OK cpu?
2500k tho 🐐
correct Box
How bout a i3-9100f is it OK?
pair that 2400 with a decent GPU and a SSD and you got a good PC.
maybe like... rx570 or 1650?
not a "good" pc
decent
you got a pc
a pc that turns on
it would do games
So is i3-9100f good tho
i3-9100k is decent
2400 will for sure be a bottleneck unless you use old hardware with it
it's current gen
check out AMD Ryzen, they have much better bang for buck
What's a bottleneck
it's the lowest of current gen. but way better that that 2400
say you have a 2080ti with that i5-2400
if you are doing something like gaming the gpu won't be able to go at full power, it will be limited by the cpu
it would be okay
2080ti is going to under perform
I don't really understand GPUs or cpus
you want a balance of both
u put it in the slot, it work
or close to it
My computer sucks
basically yes you want balance, don't spend all your money in a gpu and get a crappy cpu
It's an HP 8100 which I'm assuming is bad
this is what i got xD https://i.imgur.com/AGEEY2T.png
?
yeah she obsolete 😦
probably best just to get a new pc
The thing is
yeah, ain't really anything you can do with it.
I just got it
or worth doing to it
many components are incompatible with current hardware
get your monies back if you can
how much did you pay?
250
With a monitor and accessories
Im actually quite young and I was naive at first but then I started learning that a 2400 is bad
It didn't specify what the gen the i5 was
But actually it is alright
not even an ssd 😦
pay like 30 dollars for a boot drive it'll be day/night difference
I thought if I just added q better GPU then the current garbage Intel 660 it would be better
well see if you can get your money back, and if you are ever looking for something there are always people here that can help you 🙂
Like what
anything pc related
if you put a gpu that is closer to the era then graphical performance would be a bit better but idk that it would be worth it
where did you buy this pc?
until gone?
Yeah
yee sorry but it was even cheaper at newegg, but anyway do you think you can get a refund or do they not do refunds?
other options could be ebay or something
what were you looking to do with this pc
but like what were you gonna use it for
what games did you have in mind
And actually it's not bad
Uh like Batman arkham series GTA 5 and maybe COD
So far for ME it's fine at a 1200x600 display for Batman arkham city
Basically like a movie display
I was trying to get a GPU called Gigabyte GV-N1030OC-2GI Nvidia GeForce GT 1030 OC 2G graphics card
Comments on this board for a potential micro atx build (possibly partnered with a 9th gen i7 and 2080S)?
$140 new on eBay https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zLrYcf/asus-rog-strix-b365-g-gaming-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-strix-b365-g-gaming
@naive pendant what's the budget for a gpu
Gt 1030 is a really crappy old GPU afaik
Oh
maybe you can slip in a gtx 960 if it would fit into the case
and if the psu can handle
tho i may have doubts
used rx580?
Maybe like a used 1650s or smth
for sure you should get a used card
idk if the psu in that pc has the connectors or power for some of the cards tho
ye
I did open it up to check and I didn't want to mess anything up
I think it was a 250 watt power supply

yikes
hey! I hope you all doing fine and are healthy 🙂 I have a question about the upcoming Nvidia 3000 Series. I read that they support PCIE 4.0. My motherboard only supports up to PCIE 3.0 16x. Will this be a problem performancewise? Do i need to upgrade my motherboard before buying a 3000 Series card?
It will not be a problem
All PCIE versions are backwards and forwards compatible
it will work
(techies correct me if im wrong)
but for example, you can put a 5700xt (pcie 4.0 card) in a pcie 3.0 slot and not have any issues
graphics cards dont really utilize the speeds of pcie 4.0 yet, pcie 4.0 is more beneficial towards SSDs
yes pcie is backwards compatible, pcie 4.0 has more bandwidth but there will not likely be any bandwidth issues with the card. it would only possibly be more of an issue in the future when more powerful cards come out
Yep
Thank you so much @Zack and @notGhost for your answers. I was really hoping for that answer as you may expect hahaha 😄 Great news, super psyched for the reveal today 😉 Thanks again!
yep
@obsidian lark I've also been shopping for similar components, and did a bunch of research myself. There really is VERY LITTLE advantage to spending money on / waiting for a motherboard with PCIe 4.0. In most games/benchmarks, the FPS difference is MAYBE 1%... or less.
@lethal charm Thank you so much for the info! Yeah that is what i stumbled up on also when i researched the topic. I was still unsure, so thank you very much for the confirmation 🙂
Yvw - good luck in your shopping. I have everything bought (and on its way) except the PSU. Can't find a good one in stock.
@lethal charm I wish you good luck too! Lets hope the prices of the 3000-Series will be somewhat affordable 😄
Oh, they are. I went with a Ryzen 5 3600x for a gamping PC. Should be plenty, at a great value (currently $45 off)
This will be my first AMD build. I wanted to save some $ compared to Intel prices.
Think I found a newer/better MB for the PC I want to build... the MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard .... one thing I do like about it, no IO shield... lol
so idrk intel stuff at all, what is the board that supports a i5 4460?
I'm getting a new cpu for my birthday and they are getting me a i3-10300 should I get that or switch it?
A i5 9900k
Intel® Core™ i5-9600K Processor (9M Cache, up to 4.60 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
Oops that's what I mean
Yeah that's what I got
Wait idk what I have
Let me watch a tutorial
Ouk
On how to check what my specs are
search in start menu
Yes
so for ddr3 memory would 4 4 gig sticks be dual channel still?
That one
@summer sleet on a dual channel board, yes
ok thanks
It says i9
keep the i9 in your system lmao
and also do server ram can be used in a regular system yeah?
depends on the ram @summer sleet
Reason: Bad word usage
no need for language like that @naive pendant
OK WAIT question
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-16GB-KIT-2x-8GB-PC3-12800R-DDR3-1600-2Rx4-ECC-RAM-Server-Memory-689911-071/362992932543?hash=item54841096bf%3Ag%3A0PgAAOSw1bpeuwwu&LH_BIN=1 how about this ram?
that should work, but generally you dont use ECC ram in machines that dont actually need it
mainly because of cost but also because most ECC ram is not all that fast
alright thanks
What is better a i3 9100f or a i5 2550k
What is a good 75-100 dollar price range CPU
R3 3100. I suggest trying to spend the extra $20 over budget for a 3300x
looking for a good recommendation for a AMD atx mobo, looking for one that can at least run ddr4 3600 and be able to upgrade in future
i hear good things about asus tuf x570
unfortunately unless you're willing to wait for b550, x570 is your only choice for "able to upgrade in future"
@rough lava
b450 boards are off the table unless you want to buy a 3600 now and upgrade to a 3900x or something later
So the better option would be wait for newer gen to come out huh, im not in desperate need for a new pc rn but I was just starting to plan for a new one
@stiff kraken
you could
What is better a i3 9100f or a i5 2550k
@naive pendant I think you should wait for ryzen 4000,4 core gaming is outdated, at least you should buy a six core 12thread cpu, it will last longer than 6core 6 thread cpu. 3600x is not a bad option, I think you should wait for b550 motherboard and 4000series cpu
I'm back! With the same issue as before. Lol
Is it possible. That my case and the power button cables. Would work for my old motherboard but not my new one for some reason???
Yes. It's doing the same thing as the one I returned to Newegg.
Just the RGB lights nothing else.
first time seeing you so I don't know your story 😄
I might have gone to the wrong thread sorry. Haha
The motherboard yes
Does the msi 450 gaming plus support 3600 DDR4
check the website
Ok
For the person having the issue with their motherboard, did you check the RAM and make sure it was seated properly?
Also, check the front panel connectors. It's really easy to hook them up wrong and cause the power button to not work. (But that's just a matter of unplugging them and connecting them the right way to fix.)
Ok thank
Yes all seated properly
Question about video card needing to be installed for amd to boot
Is that true?
Because my next question is. Does it matter which pci slot it's in for that rule?
Well, you need a video card installed to get any output to a monitor unless you have an AMD CPU with integrated graphics.
which amd processor do you have @frigid whale
if it's any X or non X variant you'll need discreet gpu.
if it has a G at the end, you do not.
AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor
Because my next question is. Does it matter which pci slot it's in for that rule?
@frigid whale
ideally it would go it would go in the pcie slot closest to the cpu
that is the only slot that is x16
the second slot will run x8
third slot is x4 and can lose pcie lanes or be disabled if it shares resources with the m.2 or sata slots
Sorry if it seems like I'm asking some really obvious questions.
is there a way to see why my CPU is at 99% all the time?
ctrl shift escape
i've looked in task manager and yeah i have software running like lightspeed with 4 screens and chrome but 99% ? seem sot be struggling. older processor too
yeah i cant do that
i mean i cant see much in there. it say s99% but barely anything is using CPU. plus theres a LOT of extras open that i dont recall ever using
lightspeed is hogging a lot of resources and chrome is a laggard in general
maybe theres something i can change in settings of the chip? i dont know. its an older fx 4350 but been going strong for 5 or so yeras now
not all are
you can find cas or cl16 memory but lately i've seen a lot of them be either out of stock or cost a lot
^
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k32g36c16u4bl here's a 2x32 3600/C16 Crucial kit
yup
Ahh
thx
Wait does Crucial RAM work with iCue?
I've never used iCue before so I have no clue
not that I can see, but it will work with mobo software
if you have an asus board, iCUE can talk to aura
3600mhc cl16 is gud
Okay
Funny story the Ryzen 3 3300x kills my old processor
2700x
I'm getting a Ryzen 7 3700x today
i thought the 3600x has similar performance to a 2700x
quick question about the corsair RGB pro RAM
so I just got mine today, but one of the sticks appears to be out of sync sometimes with the others, I swapped it into a different slot, and now it and another stick are out of sync sometimes. is there a correct order I'm supposed to install them in?
feel free to @ me with your thoughts
@pulsar crane for gaming a 3600x out performs a 2700x decently. For bigger workload stuff tho the 2700x edges it out a little
@stray vortex are you runnning at duel channel?
@stray vortex heres a guide how to use aura syce with icue
or you can just download icue
What's a good pair for the 1660 ti? Also I may upgrade more in the future
A 3600 would be a good fit for almost any gpu lol
What do you plan to upgrade tho? The cpu or gpu?
GPU hopefully
How many cores was 3600 again?
just curious
GTA is a bit of a CPU chugger so
6 cores
It'll do well
It has basically the same single core performance as a 3700x
@deep vigil I have icue already, and yeah they're in dual channel, since there's 4 sticks
hey guys, i currently have a ryzen 5 2600 and will be getting a 3000 series in the future. i currently have a b350 motherboard and am looking to upgrade. im not super interested in the super fast nvme speeds that the x570 can give, but it it worth spending around $200-ish for a x570 motherboard for future-proofing purposes than around $150-$160 for a b450?
well if you are hoping to eventually upgrade to the 4000 series, it wont be supported by b450 boards (According to amd) but will be supported by x570 boards. Plus you get the added benefits that come with x570 like pcie 4.0. its really up to you though. I ended up going with an x470 pro (before the announcement that 4000 series will only support b550 and x570)
ohh ok
do you know of a good x570 motherboard around $200-$220? (that's around my pricerange)
i really dont know much about motherboards
ryzen 5 2600, 16gb corsair vengeance 3600mhz, rtx 2060
I've heard good things about the asus x570 steel legend, which is around 200
oh woops
hold on
alright for asus, if i remember correctly, rog strix is good, prime is good (and the upgraded version of what i have), but the tuff boards are bad? I think?
I think the steel legend is good but im not entirely sure. I havent looked to much into 570 boards tbh.
And stock is crazy rn
yeah i just noticed that lol. most pc parts are
so i see the rog strix rn is selling at $300? is that inflated? or is that the normal price?
when everything was deserted at the beginning of the epidemic, the micro center near me had a line wrapped around the building
i think thats inflated but im not sure on the actual prices of those mobos.
the rog strix I pulled up is selling at 700 
Yikes
yeah im looking at the same thing rn haha
if your system works well right now, i wouldn't bother upgrading until this whole thing blows over.
yeah i wasn't planning on buying a motherboard rn. just researching
also if you have a microcenter near you, check there, although the stock might be low by now
4 hours and 33 minutes away?
yeah
oof
georgia .o.
lol they have the best deals on pc parts ive found so far and if not they price match. I dont think a 4.5 hour drive is worth it though
lol for me its 1 hour or 30 min by toll way. I've pretty much only gotten pc parts from them
what do you mean
state
oh texas
ah gotcha
theres a few in texas tho
texas is basically a country lol
you have no idea lol
lmaoo
take a 20 hour drive to california. 18 of it is just texas.
yep. you can now share links and images
oh neat

alrighty, thanks for the help regarding the motherboards! have a good night!
no problem and you as well!
Yo does anyone know how to tell the difference from 1600 to 1600 af
one is a 1600 and one is a 1600 as frick
no i found this online: The 1600 AF is a Zen+ based CPU, as opposed to the 1600 (non AF) which is Zen based.
Basically that means the 1600 AF rivals the second gen Ryzen 5 2600 and is altogether a better choice than the 1600 (non AF).
ok cool thanks
Got a question, I have an i76700 and 2133 speed ram 2x8, and a 2060 super and the card at times on games like gta v or ark it struggles with 1080p let alone 1440, would my cpu and ram be bottleneck my system?
I also when no clue realy where to ask this question but is is mostly pertaining to cpu and ram that's why this is here
the ram is a lower speed for today, most going at 3200MHz and above. it also depends on the game, like if it cpu or gpu intensive. also idk about gta but ark i hear isn't very well optimized
So it would Most likely be a ram issue?
in what way is it struggling, what fps are you getting?
Just extremely low fps for a 2060 super
It will go from it ding fine 70fps wish is normalish, then drop to 40fps for no reason then when I move its fine
GTA isn't too optimized, but you're still getting low frames
@viral marlin It might be the ram cause it is very slow for today @midnight pollen was right about 3200MHz being today's average for most people
my opinion on this is that's its more up to the motherboards chipset on what it can support you might be able to put 3200 in there but the chipset is going to treat it as if its only 2133 though you might be able to overclock it to 3200? The motherboard might be able to support a faster CPU in its class so what you need to do is download/run CPU-Z if don't know what your motherboard is then look it up and see what it supports in terms of CPU and Ram.
@storm moon cpu-z just reads what is (also) visible on the mainboard manufacturers site
Hello all,
I am looking to buy an AsRock B450 Pro4 motherboard to use with the Ryzen 3600, both sold by newegg. Will the motherboard be updated and Ryzen 3600 compatible out of the box? I am not able to update the motherboard myself.
does newegg specs tell you anything
should tell you if its ryzen 1st 2nd and 3rd gen ready
huh weird
it doesn't
Yeah, unfortunately, it doesn't specify
I'd hate to have to spend an extra $100 for an X570, I could drop my GPU of choice from an 5700XT to a GTX1660ti to compensate
Hmm
ok
Right, i suppose it's safe to assume it isn't out of the box compatible with 3rd gen
thank you
that's interesting
and I know mobo's are hard to find right now
my mobo that i got for 150 is now 500$ usd
@dusty yacht does it have to be asrock?
Nope, any will do
yes, im in canada
ideally around 100-150 but if it's a bit over, that's alright
And really hoping to keep the mobo under 200
Supports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen/2nd Gen Ryzen/1st Gen Ryzen / 2nd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics/1st Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Processors
Supports 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen / Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Desktop Processors for Socket AM4
and that's really about it
thank you! looks very promising, one of the reviews also confirms that theirs was gen 3 compatible out of the box
Think I will go with this!
I’ve used a B450M Pro4 before. It came with a sticker on it saying it’s Ryzen 3000 ready
how would would a used i5-6600 go for?
check ebay
aanyone help me fix my bois to see the new memory i jsut bought form you guygs?
*guys
i have a ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) (LGA1151) and a Intel Core i7 @ 3.70GHz 29 °C
Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
upgraded my crucible 2666 to so corsair 3600.....
you shouldn't need to do a bios update but if you want to get the 3600 mhz, just enable the DOCP or XMP profile in the bios
ya i did that already from the other memory i had, had to set it back to auto for it to boot
it went into safe mode
its working but it only sees the morory as unknown @1071mhz
what are you using to see it saying unknown
asus mem tweaker and speccy
if i switch it back to the xmp profile, it should auto see it at that point before i reboot, correct?
ok just go into bios and enable the DOCP or XMP and reboot.
it should set it to 3600 mhz
ok ill try that and be back 🙂
i dont know what to di in the mem tweatit......i dont weanna blow anything up....
dont change anything. just enable XMP. if it doesnt boot, just clear cmos
ok brb
seems to only see th eold profile xmp ddr4-3597 18-22-22-42-1 now it only sees it as 32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (18-22-22-42)
aaqh....there is a firmware update for the memory....:)
so how do i clear the cmos?
unplug the power cord, look for the little battery, take it out for 10 minutes, plug it back in, plug power back in, turn on.
it may take a minute to boot but make sure you unplug it first cause if it has power it will not reset the cmos.
yeah thats how you clear the CMOS. some mobos have a button for it or pins you can short out too
ok thanks 🙂 have a great night
Usually you can get away with just having it out for a minutes or so, pressing the power button to help discharge the power left in the board
keeps booting in safe mode
or that profile which see's it in 1066ish....
any more ideas?
Worth getting b550?
I have x570 but just curious
Might make a build for little cousin
Still a month before b550 comes out
I'm torn between the 3400G or the 3300X for a mini ITX build, what do you guys think? Provided I have a graphics card does the 3400G provide any benefits over the 3300X to justify the $50 difference?
If yoi have a beefy collet becuade you can oc the 3300x a ton
Someone oc a 3300x to 5ghz
But that was eith liquid nitrogen
It's a mini ITX, I ordered a low profile noctua cooler. The noctua NH-L9a.
Im not too sure but the 3300x is on newer architecture
And supports pcie4
If that means anything to you
Okay, I've been leaning towards it anyhow. I'll wait for it to come back up in stock somewhere, thanks.
It also looks like it has better gaming performance than the 3600 in the bench im watching
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@rare phoenix re: does the 3400G provide any benefit over the 3300x: Long story short? No.
in your specific context, it does not
it is the slower of the two
(and yes, i know, model numbers etc, just nod and say yes)
nope, other way around :)
Well the 3300x is beter if you got the dgpu
3300x > 3400g afaik in terms of cpu performance?
yes
Thanks guys.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't the 3400G a Zen+ part as opposed to Zen 2?
hey so the asrock b450 steel legend spec list on newegg says that it supports up to 3200mhz ram on ryzen 3000, but i have 3600mhz ram, will that be a problem?
alright cool, thanks!
hey everyone, getting ready to swap out my mobo, cpu and RAM. i watched a few videos that showed how to switch your microsoft account to online so you don't lose you windows installation but i have windows 7 and it doesn't work on that because all accounts are local. read something about deleting drivers but i don't know which ones to delete and saw this about unistalling drivers in the bios when you boot from the new mobo. any advice?
No
I’ve swapped the hard drive from an old PC into a new one and windows became inactivated.
Sometimes it doesn’t even let you log in
It didn’t like some certain systems
But if you get an external drive and do a full drive image to transfer, I believe it will be okay
Don’t listen to what I said I’m a noob
any suggestions for a decent matx motherboard for around $100
Thanks that fits what i need. I will be getting a matx case
does anyone who's not a self-proclaimed noob have any advice lmao
@warped scroll so i need to clone to an external even though i have a hdd in there already?
Why don’t you just upgraded to windows 10 @fathom grail
Yeah, sadly Windows 7 is dead. No more official support
I mean some companies can pay for additional support i believe, but it ain't worth it
i'll look into it
wait i swapped out my hdd from my old pc and threw in a sshd, and once I installed windows, it was activated
it was from a prebuilt so I'm thinking mobo recognition?
Motherboard keeps windows key
You can upgrade everything except the mobo and windows will still be activated
Honestly, since he's got 7 I'd recommend going ahead and upgrading to Windows 10. Skip 8, 8 sucks.
Windows 8 bad
8 definitely sucks
any advice on how to upgrade? tool didn't work but i'm looking at downloading as if i'm putting 10 on another device and mounting it to an iso
you're trying to upgrade your cpu mobo and ram but not lose windows? am i correct?
okay, you should be able to upgrade it to 10 for free from windows 7 if you want to do that
are you afraid of losing everything?
i'm trying to but i'm getting a language error
weird
tried mounting to a usb and iso and getting "there was a problem running this tool"
and yes definitely afraid of losing everything lol
do you have one hard drive or 2?
as for the language error, try remaking the usb install tool. ive gotten that issue and had to remake it 3 times before it worked for me 🤷♂️
1 internal 1 external
what all are you wanting to keep?
and for the remake, you're saying just start from the beginning with the tool and eventually the error goes away?
and everything, files programs etc
so generally its recommended to do a fresh install when upgrading your components so that there aren't any conflicting drivers. You can do a fresh install while keeping your files, but all apps and settings will be deleted when you upgrade or do a fresh install.
did you create a USB tool or are you trying to upgrade your pc from the app itself?
i've tried it all 3 ways and nothing works
from what it sounds like though you're saying it's best to write it to usb, upgrade my components and then upgrade 7 to 10?
i think you might be misunderstanding how the process works @fathom grail
doing my best
please keep the following in mind: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers
when you made the USB tool. Can you explain how you did that?
I would upgrade to windows 10 before you upgrade your components so that you can attach the key to an online account. Failling that, you can just buy a new key for 5$ so if it doesn't go as planned Don't fret to much.
i downloaded the windows 10 update tool, am attempting to write the upgrade to a 16GB usb. i keep getting the message that there was a problem running this tool
@gritty meadow
and ok @crude path i will keep that in mind, gonna try the tool a couple more times
yes @gritty meadow i'll try to write it on my laptop
yeah i'm seeing that other people have had the same issue as me though
BUT windows 7 is old by now, so heck knows if there is something in your particular version/install of it that is blocking things
"looks like windows has the ISO i'm just trying to find it" <- elaborate
it says there's a problem with language but i only have english
i'm reading a "windows 10 manual upgrade" article and it mentions that i can download the ISO directly but the link to the ISO doesn't work anymore lol
2sec
there you go, that is the tool download
the tool can either directly download the iso or directly make the usb for you
oh i think maybe it's because i have content on the usb
didn't realize it had to be blank
so this is crazy, this website you sent looks different on my laptop than on my pc
i guess because i already have windows 10 on here
seems like the iso is working on my laptop
will update
before you do anything
backup the files you absolutely NEED to keep
because there are no guarantees
only if you have a drive that is big enough
hmm true
can i check how much i need
or would it just be the full amount of C that i have taken up right now
its the amount of space you have used
ok i definitely don't have a drive big enough for that then
might have to go pick one up
Why is it that you want to keep everything?
because you are hopefully aware that the moment you upgrade, the things you keep are not guaranteed to work
(programs etc)
i don't really mind about the programs, i can reinstall pretty much any programs i need but i'm mostly worried about files
i wasn't but you said i should make a backup lol
you mean your documents etc?
then that is all you need to make a backup off
is there a wizard for that or do i just do it manually
you just manually copy it to the external drive
ok gotca
gotcha
best buy has an EVO and that's what i wanted anyways so i might just go grab that and clone
what do you mean
go and figure out what files you need to backup, then do that.
i don't want to go through and pick what i'm trying to keep as my hdd has 132G free out of a TB
that's a lot to go through right now
that is your lack of foresight, i cannot do anything about that.
but, 95% of that data is not actually things you need to keep
@gritty meadow was it you or Forks that showed that program for what folders take up space on a drive?
Forks
i get that i need to go through it at some point, i've been meaning to. but that's a week long process and i just want to upgrade. seems like making a clone in case i lose anything and being able to go through it later is a better process to me
@fathom grail the point is: if you dont have a backup, there is nothing i can recommend that is safe to do. (in your current context)
right i'm just saying the amount of content i have currently would be hard to go through when i can clone a backup for now
and if you buy a drive for doing that, you are "moving the problem along AKA moving the hot potato"
but as mentioned, it is your choice :)
well i want the drive anyways i'm just trying to make sure i don't lose anything
It's best you just go through the files, it doesn't take that long.
even if i go through the files i likely don't have a device that would hold everything i want to keep anyways
my biggest drive is a 320G external and it's halfway full
Documents don't take much space, programs do
i'm not trying to be difficult btw
we dont see it as you being difficult
this is just a debate/conversation about your situation :)
ok cool lol
at the end of the day, you are the one that has the data that might get lost
not any of us
i feel that and i want to take the precautions for sure
IF you want to do a clone, you are going to either need a second USB or use the USB that you have the windows install on
so back to the upgrade though, once i go through my files and make a backup, i have the ISO now from my laptop that i'm going to put on a flash drive and transfer to my desktop
what i don't want to copy the OS just the files
*what if
notice the "IF"
re: windows install: the media creation tool makes a USB capable of booting up and installing windows ONTO a drive.
which means, after you have run the media creation tool on your laptop, you can then take the usb and plug it into the desktop and power on the desktop and select the usb as the bootdrive
does all of that make sense?
what if I transfer the ISO to my HDD? can i boot from that?
not how it works
the ISO is a "snapshot" that can be used to make something a copy of something else
can you make a list of steps i need to do now that i have the ISO on my laptop
did you not just run the media creation tool ?
i did, it created an ISO that i'm copying to a flash drive
you could have just pointed the media creation tool at the drive
that is the main purpose of the tool
i think i tried that but the drive wasn't blank so it didn't write to it
maybe that's just because i tried to do it on the PC
i'll try to write to usb on the laptop
it should work
ok usb cleared, writing to usb now
Duck
Will a current Ryzen 5 3600 X work on a b550 motherboard that's coming out?
I'm building and I just heard about the 550 chipset, currently I'm on an old piece of poop
This is what I've come up with, but I just found out that the b550 comes out next month
Will the 3600X that I have in that setup work on a b550 motherboard that's coming out next month?
Also what kind of RAM will I need?
Everything should be compatible
Also
Does anyone know how long b550 will last because isn't AM4 only lasting until the end of this year so technically we'd have to upgrade again on the 5000series?
I think i'll get a b450
b550 isnt gonna last very long lmao
i'm only gonna upgrade every few years or so regardless
Same.
It's been 8 years for me
My current board
Old. And sometimes when I plug he was bees into a USB 3.0 port on the back of the motherboard slash tower my whole PC freezes



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