cpus-mobo-and-memory

[naive pendant]

i think even MSI made it where cant even disable vbs in bios

[elfin warren]

They did

[naive pendant]

i wonder than why AMD have not fixed VBS to work with master 🤔 @elfin warren

[elfin warren]

No idea on that one.

[naive pendant]

@naive pendant which cpu?

whats your budget any how

likely going to get a 3700x-3800x-3900-x

about 800 for mobo and cpu

preferably in 700 range

what do you plan doing with your system?

1440p 144hz and down the line 4k 144hz

or atleast 120hz for 4k

likely going to get a 2070 super or a 3070 when it comes out

i own meg ace x570 great board and i also do own strix e gaming which better version of F gaming great choices really cant go wrong unless prefer brands bios

[long geyser]

@naive pendant I mean if you are looking to save a bit, can go with these which are more or less the same quality as the Meg

There are more, but didnt want to have a super long image

[naive pendant]

Good choices too

Hero is overpriced moment tho @long geyser

i been seeing it like 440$ everywhere

[long geyser]

Well the prices on that list dont really get updated a whole lot, probably.

[naive pendant]

yeah its only newegg third party seller over pricing

i just check its around same price as meg for retail

[long geyser]

@naive pendant idk if you like having a 💩 ton of storage, like lots o SATA 2tb/4tb SSDs or large HDDs, but the meg does have a low amount of SATA ports for a major high end board. Only four ports. Fine for most people, but as you are going major high end idk if you are going to do super bulk storage

[naive pendant]

another very good point too^

[wild venture]

I was looking at getting a r9 3900x, however im still wondering what x570 motherboard would be the best option

[naive pendant]

@wild venture whats your motherboard budget?

[fleet inlet]

B450 Steel Legend VS B450 Tomahawk Max (Tomahawk non-max isn’t available locally). what motherboard should I buy, knowing that the steel legend is around $7 dollars cheaper and I really won’t be overclocking a lot (maybe a little though)

[wild venture]

@naive pendant Well I have $250 left to spend but I can push to $300

[fleet inlet]

All I want is to run RAM at rated speed but that should be easy 😉

[naive pendant]

@wild venture these are good choices for price range you targeting they all about same in terms of quality https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cqsnTW/asus-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pbvqqs/asrock-x570-taichi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-taichi

@fleet inlet i would recommend tomahawk max in your case its the best b450 board out their and i hear nothing but good reviews for it

[wild venture]

THanks 🙂

[fleet inlet]

That’s what I was thinking. Ty!

Tomahawk Max is solid enough to OC a 2600 right ?

With a decent cooler

[naive pendant]

yeah it will be than enough

[fleet inlet]

Alrighty’

[wild venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi @naive pendant I was just curious about this board too people sayh that it isnt the best with the fan being blocked by the gpu... was very curious aas this may give me morpe to spend on other stuff but those boards above are great thank you.

[naive pendant]

i have not seen much on this board but if trying save money i would just get tomahawk max like i recommended to ziky@wild venture

[wild venture]

Would I be able to overclock on that? @naive pendant

[naive pendant]

you plan using 3 gen ryzen correct? @wild venture

[wild venture]

3900x

yes

[naive pendant]

@wild venture ok than alot times its not worth manual ocing 3 gen chip and just letting PBO do it thing in some cases you see perf lost for games and such and back on your question the tomahawk max will be perfectly fine

[wild venture]

Alright thanks.

[misty belfry]

i saw the biostar racing in that infographic up there

iirc that one is pretty low on features

like one M.2 slot

[young arch]

Looking for motherboards and struggling to see a difference between the MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX and the MSI B450M BAZOOKA V2. Are there any differences??

[misty belfry]

hmm, have you considered the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX?

the MAX one is the one you want unless you have a second gen ryzen

because it's preconfigured to work with third gen

[young arch]

ahh, ok thanks will look into it

[wild venture]

@restive wedge Thank you 😄

x570 aorus elite wifi, good board or not? (3900x)

[naive pendant]

Hey guys I installed my pc but my ram doesn’t look like it’s in? Any help on this issue?

2 sticks of DDR4 8gb ram

Am I suppose to see the gold lining on the mobo when I put the ram in?

[crude path]

you can sometimes yeah. just make sure the clips have snapped all the way up in place

[naive pendant]

It’s that’s the prob

I applied pressure and it’s still not going in

[crude path]

are you sure its lined up the right way

and can you take a picture

[naive pendant]

The hole on the ram matches the latch that is there

[crude path]

if you lift up the latch will it latch on to the ram all the way?

[naive pendant]

No

Now my uncle removed my GPU out and now it’s jammed in the socket

Ffs

[crude path]

🤔

the gpu is jammed?

[gritty meadow]

@naive pendant take a picture and tell your uncle to go read the newspaper or something :)

[naive pendant]

@gritty meadow

I took out the other one so I could get a better angle

That’s the farthest I could get it to go

[crude path]

you sure its facing the right way?

[naive pendant]

Yes

The other way wouldn’t go in

At all

[gritty meadow]

model of the board?

@naive pendant

(for the lurkers: want to see if it is a single or dual clip)

[naive pendant]

ASUS TUF Z390-Plus Gaming (Wi-Fi) LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard

[gritty meadow]

one moment

that looks like single clip

the end of the ram slot that is towards the GPU does not move at all does it?

[naive pendant]

Nope

[gritty meadow]

okay, then normally you would "flip" the clip at the top of the board down as far as it goes (roughly about 45 degrees)

[naive pendant]

Yea

[gritty meadow]

and then place the memory so that the "notch" on the bottom aligns with the "notch" on the inside of the bottom latch (the one that doesnt move)

and then just turn the memory down until the latch at the top "clicks" (engages)

[naive pendant]

Wait I don’t understand

[crude path]

angle it in basically

[naive pendant]

It’s still not working

[crude path]

basically the side that you cant move, you want to put the ram stick in at a slight angle and push it in towards the side a little bit (Carefully) and then line up the whole thing and push it down that way

[naive pendant]

?

[gritty meadow]

take that picture with better light please

[naive pendant]

The top doesn’t latch on

That’s the bottom

[gritty meadow]

give me a moment

[crude path]

ima wait for naed cause hes going to be better at this than i am but when its in all the way it should look like this:

[gritty meadow]

thank you mate, i am male :)

:D

[crude path]

lmao i just interchange he and she randomly sorry

i do it irl too

[gritty meadow]

@naive pendant the memory should NOT be inserted at an angle

[naive pendant]

It shouldn’t ?

[gritty meadow]

(i just checked the manual)

flip that upper latch to the 45 degrees

and just press the memory straight down

[naive pendant]

Yea I was doing that before asking for help

But it doesn’t go all the way

[gritty meadow]

https://puu.sh/F1jOq/de06c0224d.png <- that is from the manual

[crude path]

dont worry unless you tried to slam it down you didnt break it

[gritty meadow]

question: do you have it in the case or on a table?

[naive pendant]

In the case

[crude path]

so if you flip it though it should still go down to the lip, so what did you mean it wouldn't go down at all

[gritty meadow]

and all the standoffs are installed?

@crude path its the "in-hand" feel that is/can be a bit wonky for new builders

[naive pendant]

No I can still access it

[gritty meadow]

because it can "flex"

[gritty meadow]

@naive pendant i meant: are all the screws to secure the mainboard screwed in?

[naive pendant]

It’s a messy but that’s what I have rn

[gritty meadow]

dont worry about the mess :)

[naive pendant]

👍

[crude path]

i have a couple questions real quick

you already got one in successfully correct?

just this one wont go in?

[gritty meadow]

no, the one in the picture is not in

latch is not engaged at the top

[crude path]

i know but they said earlier they removed one

[gritty meadow]

ah, i missed that.

[naive pendant]

Yea I removed the others cuz I realised that they weren’t placed correctly

And then I encountered this problem

[crude path]

I took out the other one so I could get a better angle
@naive pendant

okay so none were placed correctly?

[naive pendant]

Nope

[crude path]

okay is there any foreign objects in the slot?

[naive pendant]

No

[crude path]

ok can you do me one more favor? pull out the ram, line it up with the slot but on its side, and take a pic straight above where we can see the side of the ram and the slot?

[crude path]

i could be wrong but i still think you're putting it in the wrong way

try flipping it and putting it in again

face of ram facing away from cpu

[naive pendant]

That’s the other way

[gritty meadow]

the first is right

[crude path]

yep im wrong lol

[gritty meadow]

look at the notch

[naive pendant]

Yea I aligned it and pushed down

[crude path]

thats what i was looking at and it looked slightly off to me and ddr4 is much closer to center than ddr3 which is what im used to

[naive pendant]

But then I get this

[crude path]

so i thought that mightve been it

how much pressure are you putting on it?

cause you dont wanna break it, but you are supposed to put a good amount of pressure

[naive pendant]

A lot

It feels like I am about to break it :/

[crude path]

and it wont go into any of the slots?

try pushing and pulling that tab up at the same time

but like gently lol

its been a while but i know that my first time doing ram i always thought id break it so im not quite sure

[naive pendant]

Wait I put a bit more forced

And the notch clicked

[gritty meadow]

it can, at times, require a fairly stupid amount of force

[crude path]

yeah lol

[gritty meadow]

that is why i mentioned flex earlier

[crude path]

but its still good you checked cause someone came in here with debris in their slot before

[gritty meadow]

aye

[crude path]

so does it look all the way in now?

[gritty meadow]

if it clicks, it should be

[naive pendant]

Alright yea it’s clicking

I think I’m set

Thanks

[gritty meadow]

aye

np, and best of luck with your system :)

[naive pendant]

Ty 👍

[crude path]

grz on your build btw

[gritty meadow]

@naive pendant btw, next time you build a machine, install the ram while the mainboard is outside the case and test boot the system while it is outside the case.

2 reasons:

First: Way easier to push down on the board and see what the heck is going on .

second: in the case of dead parts. You dont have to unscrew the board from the case :)

[naive pendant]

Alright

I’ll ask for help if I need anything else

@gritty meadow hey one more thing

Do u know a reason why I’m getting “no signal” on my monitor

The cable is connected to my monitor and my gpu

[gritty meadow]

are you certain it is your GPU you are connected to ?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[gritty meadow]

you certain that you have the power cables etc for your GPU connected?

[naive pendant]

Yea it lights up and all that

[gritty meadow]

that is not enough to signal that it is actually connected as it should be

[naive pendant]

Ahh

[gritty meadow]

all the power cables in your machine have a "latch" of some kind

[naive pendant]

Yea it’s all clicked in

[gritty meadow]

hm

okay, what cpu are you using?

[naive pendant]

I7 9700k

[gritty meadow]

the simple way to figure out if it is your GPU or something else

remove your GPU from the case

[naive pendant]

From the MOBO?

[gritty meadow]

yes

unplug it, and remove it from the case.

[naive pendant]

Then what?

[gritty meadow]

plug your monitor into the connector that is together with your usb and other connectors

[naive pendant]

Wym by that?

As in plugging the cables onto the GPU when I take it out?

[gritty meadow]

okay. lets take it from the start :)

currently your have your mainboard+cpu+ram installed in your case

and you have your GPU installed in there too right?

[naive pendant]

Yea

[gritty meadow]

uninstall the GPU

[naive pendant]

Alright

[gritty meadow]

just trust me on this one :)

[naive pendant]

Because I tried doing that before

And it got jammed

The gpu is in the motherboard and is heard to get out

Hard*

[gritty meadow]

there is a latch on that slot too

[gritty meadow]

in that picture, the screw that is to the top right

see the plastic handle there?

that is the latch

[naive pendant]

Yea

[gritty meadow]

iirc, just press it down towards the mainboard

[naive pendant]

It doesn’t move

Well it does but ever so slightly

Like this?

[gritty meadow]

question: what are you trying to show me?

[naive pendant]

The latch lol

[gritty meadow]

https://puu.sh/F1kvS/8403e76390.jpg

[crude path]

make sure its not screwed down onto the case

[gritty meadow]

can you see how there are 2 sections to it?

[naive pendant]

Yea

[gritty meadow]

and as @crude path said, do remember to remove the screw at the metal bracket

[naive pendant]

@crude path wdym by screwed down onto the case

[gritty meadow]

other end of the card

[naive pendant]

Are the ports suppose to be like this?

Or lower

[crude path]

i think its supposed to be lower

on the top part of that there should be screws or something holding it down tho

[gritty meadow]

(depends on the case)

[naive pendant]

Ahh

[gritty meadow]

https://puu.sh/F1kAm/a1c8b93575.png

[naive pendant]

Because it’s not going any lower

[gritty meadow]

here is the picture from the manual

[naive pendant]

Yea I took those out already

The brackets

[gritty meadow]

we are asking about the screw at the left of the picture

[naive pendant]

What about the screws?

[gritty meadow]

has that been undone yes/no?

[naive pendant]

Yea we removed it

[gritty meadow]

okay.

back to the latch

in the picture you posted of the latch

it looks like the card is not all the way down into the slot

basically, it is the ram all over again

[naive pendant]

Ahh

[crude path]

it looks like its in to me ._.

[gritty meadow]

(second picture @crude path )

[naive pendant]

This one?

[gritty meadow]

yes

[naive pendant]

I can’t push it in more

[crude path]

try to remove it

[gritty meadow]

okay, back to removing it then

[crude path]

push the lever down and pull up

[naive pendant]

Alright I’ll give it another shot

[gritty meadow]

and to be clear, it should be the upper right hand part of this lever that you push on

https://puu.sh/F1kvS/8403e76390.jpg

[long geyser]

Try removing front first

[gritty meadow]

been done @long geyser

[long geyser]

After removing the front a bit, wiggle it around while playing with the latch

[naive pendant]

I took it out

[crude path]

remember be firm but fair

ok

[naive pendant]

What do I do now

[gritty meadow]

put the gpu aside.

[crude path]

now plug the monitor into the mobo io port

[gritty meadow]

and now you connect your monitor to the mainboard IO connecter

@crude path you up for taking over? (it is getting real late on my end)

[crude path]

yeah sure

[gritty meadow]

cheers mate

(02:10 at night here)

[crude path]

oof

[naive pendant]

Alright thanks for the help @gritty meadow 🍻

[crude path]

we got dis sagiri

[naive pendant]

So @crude path I cinnecy the monitor to the mobo

And turn monitor on correct?

[crude path]

alright now power it up and give it a second

yeah

[naive pendant]

Alright

[gritty meadow]

@naive pendant you are very welcome, you are in stable hands with @crude path

[high crystal]

Do you think it would be a good idea to buy a ryzen 3600 for 170 rn on amazon or should i wait to see if it goes lower

[crude path]

oof so much pressure now lol

170 for a 3600 seems like a real good deal

[naive pendant]

@crude path it still says no signal

[crude path]

but im unsure

[high crystal]

says normally its £200 but idk

[crude path]

what was your cpu again?

also leave it running for a min

[naive pendant]

Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

[high crystal]

hm

[crude path]

ok so it shold have onboard graphics

[high crystal]

does the integrated provide any output

🤔

[crude path]

what is the input method? hdmi?

or like vga?

[naive pendant]

The mobo input?

[high crystal]

yes

[crude path]

well whats coming off of your monitor

like how are you plugged in

[naive pendant]

HDMI

[crude path]

okay are there any leds lit up on the mobo?

also are fans spinning?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[high crystal]

try using the integrated graphics to confirm if it can detect the gpu 🤔

[crude path]

what led's are on?

[naive pendant]

Mobo

[crude path]

yeah take a picture

i should go get the manual

[high crystal]

do you get any signal with the hdmi on the motherboard

[naive pendant]

How do I check?

[high crystal]

plug it in :)

[naive pendant]

Oh yea

No I don’t

[crude path]

okay go ahead and power it down and gimme a min

[high crystal]

hm

[naive pendant]

i have an old NARRRA6 mobo that I'm thinking to sell it would $15 be ok for that old mobo?

[high crystal]

try reseating any ram

[naive pendant]

I did

[high crystal]

did you try with just 1 stick

[naive pendant]

Yea

[gritty meadow]

@high crystal it is polite behaviour to at least read up what has been tried

[high crystal]

when theres 200 messages, small details get lost

im just trying to help here

[gritty meadow]

there is quite literally nothing but talk about this for the last 30+ minutes :)

[high crystal]

exactly :I

[gritty meadow]

then work together with @crude path on it :)

and on that note, i am out for the night.

[crude path]

okay what all is currently in your pc? i know you got ram, mobo, cpu, what else?

[naive pendant]

Ram cpu heatsink ssd

[crude path]

and are all the parts brand new?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[crude path]

what kind of ssd?

[high crystal]

psu maybe?

[naive pendant]

Sandisk

2.5 inch

[crude path]

2.5? m.2?

ok

do me a favor and take out all of the ram except the far right ram

with the pc off and unplugged first

[naive pendant]

Ok

[copper solar]

[naive pendant]

What do I do now?

[crude path]

you only have one stick of ram in?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[high crystal]

try turning it on now with the hdmi plugged in 🤔

[crude path]

yeah try to turn it back on

[naive pendant]

Alright give me a sec

[crude path]

also the cpu power pin is plugged in properly on the mobo right?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[crude path]

ok

let me know when its done

you got on board leds so we're going to look at those next

[naive pendant]

Yea I’m turning monitor on

Still no signal 😦

[crude path]

does your monitor have multiple inputs?

[naive pendant]

No

[crude path]

ok look next to the ram slots there should be an led

is it lit up

[naive pendant]

Led on ram ?

[crude path]

like right next to the ram

[crude path]

is that switch in the on or off position i cant see it well

[naive pendant]

It’s on

[crude path]

what monitor do you have

[high crystal]

maybe a pin is gone?

[crude path]

what do you mean

[high crystal]

bent when they were seating it

[naive pendant]

MSI Optix MAG24C 24" Non-Glare 1ms Widescreen Full HD 1920 x 1080 144Hz Refresh Rate Curved Gaming Monitor

Is it a problem if the monitor has amd FreeSync?

[crude path]

no

[high crystal]

is it on?

it shouldnt tho

[naive pendant]

Alrig Jet

[crude path]

does that monitor have multiple ports?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[crude path]

then you have an input button

make sure its on hdmi

[naive pendant]

It is

[crude path]

why do you have 2 plugs in it?

unplug the dvi

[naive pendant]

Alright I did

[crude path]

and you're absolutely sure its on hdmi input?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[crude path]

one of the buttons on the bottom should change the input

ok

are you in the US?

[naive pendant]

Yes

Also wait wdym by it should change the input?

[crude path]

look at the back of the psu, is there a little switch

[naive pendant]

Yea

[crude path]

like change from hdmi, to displayport, to whatever else

on the screen itself

[naive pendant]

Wait what

[crude path]

hold on lemme look up the monitor to see what to press

is the power button like a single button that moves around or is it like 4 buttons

[naive pendant]

There is only 1 power button

[crude path]

does it move around like a joy stick

[naive pendant]

Uhhh

Yes

[crude path]

ok press it

you should be able to move to input

[naive pendant]

The power button?

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

K

Yea

[crude path]

if you short press it it should open a menu

and change input to hdmi

[naive pendant]

Then change it to HDMI?

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

Still no signal

[crude path]

turn pc off and back on

wait

turn pc off

then look at the back of power suply and tell me if there is a switch that says like 120v and 240v

[naive pendant]

Where is the switch?

[crude path]

it should be a small hard to change switch, usually red or orange but can be black as well

on the back like where you would plug in the cord

not all psu's have it

[crude path]

ok i believe you're good there

now turn it back on and lemme know if anything happens on screen

[naive pendant]

Ok

Screen just black

[crude path]

didnt do anything?

[naive pendant]

Nope

[crude path]

ok

turn it off, take out the ram chip, add a different one in its place (Same slot) and try again

[naive pendant]

Still no signal

[crude path]

ok

turn it off, take out the plug completely, and take out the battery on the mobo. wait a bit, and put it back in and try again

[naive pendant]

Alright will do

[crude path]

keep in mind each time you turn on your pc you need to give it a bit too

but you're looking for a bios screen

[naive pendant]

Alright

Alright I turned it back on

[crude path]

alright. btw is your pc making beeping noises at all

[naive pendant]

No

0 sound

[crude path]

ok

not bad or good was just wondering if it mightve had built in bios beeper thing lol

[naive pendant]

there is no speaker hooked on

Should I hook one to it?

[crude path]

no itd be a specific type of beeper

it goes on the mobo directly

not in the audio jack

anything on screen?

[naive pendant]

Nope not al all

[crude path]

ok

ima @elfin warren and see if hes available to help at all

cause im kinda at a loss right now

[naive pendant]

Should I hook the gpu back in?

[crude path]

i would say you could undo the cpu and check for bent pins

make sure it was placed correctly

[naive pendant]

Alright I’ll check that

[crude path]

ok be careful with it

most fragile part of the pc lol

[naive pendant]

Alright

@crude path

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

Looks fine to me

[crude path]

yeah looks good

go ahead and seat it back in

make sure thermal paste is spread on it and put it back together

double check the cpu pin and mobo pins

make sure you have all 8 pins on your cpu plug in all the way

[misty belfry]

you can just squirt a BB sized piece of thermal paste on it

and it'll spread automatically

[crude path]

and then i would go ahead and put the gpu in and try with that again

the issue annie is the pc wont give any output to monitor

[misty belfry]

yeah, was just clarifying on the easy method for thermal paste

[crude path]

tried diff sticks of ram, tried onboard vs gpu although gpu may not have been in properly,

yeah but i mean i think the paste thats already on there should be fine unless they wiped it off lol

its fresh

[misty belfry]

does not look good 😦

and yeah, you are correct

i was mistaken thinking they were applying thermal paste

or re-applying

but that's not necessary

i replaced my CPU cooler many times without replacing the paste

[crude path]

same

im wondering if they have a dead mobo, cpu, or psu but idk how to test for those ._.

[misty belfry]

yeah

[crude path]

well without having other mobo, cpus, or psus lol

[misty belfry]

@naive pendant does your PC show any signs of power or turning on

[crude path]

yeah the rgb lights up and fans spin

[misty belfry]

okay not the power supply

if all the RGB is lighting up it's almost certainly not

[crude path]

well psu could still be an issue just not likely

[misty belfry]

it's highly unlikely and we should rule it out for now

also front panel connectors are in correctly

because it turns on

[crude path]

si

[misty belfry]

CPU issue is highly unlikely because CPUs (aside from pins) are built like bloody tanks

having a problem with the CPU is extremely rare

[naive pendant]

Wait do I have to appply the paste?

[misty belfry]

so i would think the motherboard is potentially the #1 offender here

no you don't

[crude path]

is there paste already on it

[misty belfry]

that was my mistake

[crude path]

you're good

[naive pendant]

Also I think I messed up

[crude path]

ok so this does have onboard right

Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

how

[naive pendant]

The cap is loose

Is it suppose to be that way?

[crude path]

yes

like the metal thing that goes down over the cpu?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[crude path]

yeah those are usually pretty loose feeling

[naive pendant]

It’s really loosr

It’s loose and doesn’t close

[crude path]

wait hold up something looks off

[misty belfry]

the screw to hold down the retention mechanism is missing

wat

[crude path]

yeah wheres the screw

[naive pendant]

The metal thing

[misty belfry]

@naive pendant can you return the motherboard

[naive pendant]

Is it suppose to be on the cpu

[crude path]

https://youtu.be/H3yTF6wqTbg?t=155

[misty belfry]

see in the thumbnail that nut

the retention mechanism is supposed to go in there

to hold the CPU down

[crude path]

if that wasn't there that is probably your issue

[misty belfry]

yeah loose CPU just moving around

it's a miracle your CPU didn't just fall out

[naive pendant]

Yea

It’s not loose

I might have removed the screw when taking it out

[misty belfry]

try to find it

you need that screw

[naive pendant]

Yea I got it

I thought something with the cap and lever came apart

Cuz it suddenly got loose

[misty belfry]

well it's good you've got it

if it went somewhere and you couldn't find it that would be terrible

[naive pendant]

Ahh

Alright so I’m putting everything back including the gpu right?

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

And try to see if I get signal again

Alright

[crude path]

mhmm. i dont see it being a gpu problem as the problem is consistant without the gpu

but double check all your plugs too

make absolute sure theyre alll in all the way

[naive pendant]

Alright

@crude path I’m going to turn it on

[crude path]

ok everything is plugged in correctly?

[naive pendant]

Ye

Wish me luck

[crude path]

kk

good luck

[naive pendant]

There is no power 😭

What did I do wrong

[crude path]

no power at all?

[naive pendant]

Nope

[crude path]

uh

is the switch in the back on

[naive pendant]

Ye

It’s on now

[crude path]

._.

ok

[naive pendant]

👍

[crude path]

weird

what was the issue

[naive pendant]

Dunno

It radomly turned on

[crude path]

._.

[naive pendant]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crude path]

give it a min

[naive pendant]

Yea

[crude path]

does the aio seem like its working btw

idk if you can tell if liquid is moving ._.

[naive pendant]

Yea

I can hear it

@crude path still no signal :/

[crude path]

._.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the hdmi is plugged into the gpu right

[naive pendant]

Yes

I feel like it’s the ssd

Do u know how to work it?

[misty belfry]

you'd get a BIOS signal if it was the SSD

[naive pendant]

Welp I’m not getting 1

[crude path]

can you try to unplug the hdmi, and plug in the display port and change input to that

[vale oracle]

hAvE yOu TrIeD tUrNiNg It OfF aNd On AgAiN?

[vale oracle]

jk

[naive pendant]

I’m not sure if this is right or not

[vale oracle]

i have nothing to add here

[crude path]

then go back to podcasting

[naive pendant]

Wait for display port is it still HDMI?

[crude path]

no it should say display port or DP

i think

plug them in first, then change input

[naive pendant]

The DVI?

[crude path]

display port

the plug i told you to unplug earlier

[naive pendant]

Alright yea

[crude path]

its almost like hdmi

[naive pendant]

No signal

[crude path]

and you're on the right input? did you try other inputs?

[naive pendant]

Yes

All other inputs are no signal

[crude path]

yeah i think you might have a dead component i just dont know which

either cpu or mobo

if everything is plugged in properly then it should be working

wait

try one more thing

turn it off, and move the ram stick to the next slot

[naive pendant]

Keep going left?

[crude path]

just one over

and make sure the ram goes in all the way

on both sides

[naive pendant]

Yea

Wait ok

So for the display port

There are 3 spots

2 on top and 1 at the bottom

Is there a significance to it or it doesn’t matter which one I plug in

[crude path]

take a pic?

[crude path]

shouldn't matter, but plug it into the one at left of hdmi

also i just realized, make sure its going in that port all the way

that lip might be an issue

[naive pendant]

I don’t think that’s the issue

[crude path]

ok is your monitor in sleep mode btw

[naive pendant]

Yea

[crude path]

when you plug it in, does it come out of sleep moe to tell you theres no signal?

[naive pendant]

No

[crude path]

hmmmmmmmm

is your psu modular?

[naive pendant]

Wdym?

[crude path]

like, can you unplug the wires from the psu

[naive pendant]

It should be

Yea

It’s fully modular

[crude path]

turn off and make sure those wires are in all the way

[naive pendant]

I mean shouldn’t it be all the way in

Since it’s giving me light

[crude path]

i mean yeah if you guys putting it all the way in

im worried about the cpu more than mobo pins

the 8pin plug

[naive pendant]

Wait is the 8 pin for the cpu suppose to go in the top left

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

This one right? Just making sure

[crude path]

yes

[naive pendant]

Alright

@crude path alright bro thanks a lot for the help I’m going to head to bed and hopefully find a fix soon

Thanks for everything

[crude path]

alright sorry 😦

[naive pendant]

No that’s fine

U really helped a lot

[vagrant horizon]

Hey are the trident z neo 3600 ram good?

[urban ferry]

yes

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[mild jackal]

Always "good", sometimes legitimately good, but understand the RGB premium, it's a preference call imo.

[hollow thorn]

^
You're paying a premium for the look, but you're just asking if the ram itself is good, so the answer is yes.

I quite like the rgb on the trident z neo. But how worth it might be depends on you.

[mild jackal]

IIRC there's 3600 16 19 19 42 neo hynix cjr or something, as well as 3600 16 16 16 36 low-ish bin b-die, as well as 3600 14 14 14 34 b-die but with 1.45v XMP spec or something.

Along with the 3600 cl>16 list

[hollow thorn]

Yea I doubt hes talking about the b-die listing, that one is like twice the price of the c die listing

[mild jackal]

TL;DR Trident Z Neo is just a mode line from Gskill that shares a heatspreader design.
Same for the rest - trident z , trident z RGB, flarex, ripjaws, royal, list goes on.

[hollow thorn]

Yea

[wild venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XV6qqs/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite-wifi which is best mobo for 3900x?

[elfin warren]

I'd go Gigabyte.

[gilded crest]

Ok now every time I unplug my computer it reset all my UEFI Bios setting. Even after putting a new CMOS battery in. This was a refurbished board from Asus return from me. Also it still keep the time. Even in offline.

My board is an ASUS rog strix b 450 f gaming.

Also never set a Raid in the first place.

[blazing carbon]

just dont unplug it

[shrewd jacinth]

Hi im building a pc for my grandpa any recommendations? cheap as possible i was thinking the new Athlon 3000G

[cerulean nova]

Ya that's about as cheap as its gonna get. Plus you have a lot of upgrade room with the am4 platform

[main pulsar]

what is he using this pc for

[shrewd jacinth]

Emails, google extra

[devout moth]

!MrRhody#4389 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shrewd jacinth]

owo

Basic Stuff

[main pulsar]

a 100 dollar dell optiplex from 5 years ago will handle that just fine

comes with everything

[shrewd jacinth]

No needs to be new

[main pulsar]

why?

[shrewd jacinth]

Just does

[main pulsar]

it will no longer be new the moment you take it out of the box...

[shrewd jacinth]

-_-

[main pulsar]

my point being

there is little difference with used hardware

its the same metal

and plastic

[shrewd jacinth]

To much hassle

[main pulsar]

just make sure you know who your getting it from

business overstock is key

[shrewd jacinth]

Also im in Australia

[devout moth]

!MrRhody#4389 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shrewd jacinth]

So there is not much used stuff

[main pulsar]

heres just a quick example

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9020-SFF-Core-i5-4570-3-2-GHz-8-GB-180-GB-SSD-WIn-10-Pro/184114194319?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2ade0fa78f:g:eMsAAOSw3T5cDaO4&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qX4duUSRFjHeQO6HMispvze1TkHhoIG1ZDmEjy5IQkwSETFHIluQsRZjH1VEWv2kFNamwVomCqr62R%2F2Zrqid%2B6oXWKxcc7%2BRTSaWVTIQS136sKYm6mzXxSAbiPevCy%2BRzkkCbc7JPc9eFBRWWVG6W37O1VaQYHHjLkfg8fKtBVYmznygTMmPQHLL%2F6Gw41On1yAZlT39EdTPPqAL3ywqGSogoytNHQ9%2FsXIxbHQTRRQ26Uk5g5pwQSoQ87qYqb749JfR4HpsJRHFxnXGUhSUR9fAMo95L%2B1qZmK7Rs0Oib3sMlawiyoEuWFbjqLX2teeHGVPv1G0K8V3CLIzCOrV4phToT37kHFTQt4B1xoPU0FVZ243xF7J3Cb9qd%2FVWdK5%2BwUGNwZ%2BkzDe15CfLoeEueR9eIKdYrrTfEUY3iwcmWm0Ya%2BrELoMR5siJpCUOPTM0zDVxBAJaNCL0WKyaBJ9boJVZDdwSoF8rWb6eK8eHEMD6kMHpWrrWLp0I9tNJuPEI4rZg%2F8lkhrsIPLcB5aj1H0BdVi5CRa%2Bls01Ss%2B25mHXTLhyC2z0nFSXFD9lDXDkVxJg9l2Ojv4dD%2FvCFUzYbtDgtLami95Y0KJJ9kiYnTMrVmdVcuez%2FudT9b0lfDyzlZDjkzEthddgI3Ej2VCcOrM5Q02ztoAqk%2FlwFTi8cW9Jp5W9HBfeGTc%2Fg4hTSGJuORs71MtjySnR9Dx6Y%2BT4y%2BnGXJIz6J0hnwJjQxCFP8MEOXo7aStmBxWc4UG9r%2BsXA%3D&checksum=184114194319246f632c2fdb47688d4ec8d855b5fb8d&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qX4duUSRFjHeQO6HMispvze1TkHhoIG1ZDmEjy5IQkwSETFHIluQsRZjH1VEWv2kFNamwVomCqr62R%2F2Zrqid%2B6oXWKxcc7%2BRTSaWVTIQS136sKYm6mzXxSAbiPevCy%2BRzkkCbc7JPc9eFBRWWVG6W37O1VaQYHHjLkfg8fKtBVYmznygTMmPQHLL%2F6Gw41On1yAZlT39EdTPPqAL3ywqGSogoytNHQ9%2FsXIxbHQTRRQ26Uk5g5pwQSoQ87qYqb749JfR4HpsJRHFxnXGUhSUR9fAMo95L%2B1qZmK7Rs0Oib3sMlawiyoEuWFbjqLX2teeHGVPv1G0K8V3CLIzCOrV4phToT37kHFTQt4B1xoPU0FVZ243xF7J3Cb9qd%2FVWdK5%2BwUGNwZ%2BkzDe15CfLoeEueR9eIKdYrrTfEUY3iwcmWm0Ya%2BrELoMR5siJpCUOPTM0zDVxBAJaNCL0WKyaBJ9boJVZDdwSoF8rWb6eK8eHEMD6kMHpWrrWLp0I9tNJuPEI4rZg%2F8lkhrsIPLcB5aj1H0BdVi5CRa%2Bls01Ss%2B25mHXTLhyC2z0nFSXFD9lDXDkVxJg9l2Ojv4dD%2FvCFUzYbtDgtLami95Y0KJJ9kiYnTMrVmdVcuez%2FudT9b0lfDyzlZDjkzEthddgI3Ej2VCcOrM5Q02ztoAqk%2FlwFTi8cW9Jp5W9HBfeGTc%2Fg4hTSGJuORs71MtjySnR9Dx6Y%2BT4y%2BnGXJIz6J0hnwJjQxCFP8MEOXo7aStmBxWc4UG9r%2BsXA%3D&checksum=184114194319246f632c2fdb47688d4ec8d855b5fb8d

ok

yikes

[split copper]

the link here is made of link

[main pulsar]

im not suggesting that one, but something similar

[shrewd jacinth]

That us ebay o.o

[main pulsar]

i know

thats why i said example

what about a laptop

a brand new 200 dollar chromebook

google drive baked in

oh, you said "google extra"

i thought you said google drive lmao

[shrewd jacinth]

Playing five m my pc to bad to have GC open why playing o-o

But yeah thanks ill have a look lator

@main pulsar Can you use Word and stuff with a chrombook?

[main pulsar]

apparently

but why would you want to

it has google docs baked in

and it auto syncs with your google account

[long geyser]

@main pulsar That is one small link there

[main pulsar]

lmao right

[shrewd jacinth]

He is old i dont wana teach him a whole new thing

remember

[main pulsar]

its easier than word

it has less options

[shrewd jacinth]

Yeah but he has never used it

he has learnt words over years of figureing it out

[main pulsar]

pull up docs online as a test and ask him how he likes it, because for his needs, a chromebook is way better suited than a buggy windows machine

but yeah, he can still get ms word on the chromebook

so its still a great choice

[naive pendant]

Should I get a Ryzen 3600 or a 2700x?

[elfin warren]

3600

[naive pendant]

Kk very cool

[fleet inlet]

What are some good M-ATX B450 boards that would run well with a 2600 (and if upgrade 3600 ; w/ or w/o BIOS update) ? I want my motherboard for at least 3 years long without having to upgrade, and some RGB on the board itself would be nice to have (since I have a Mid tower case, the attention would be drawn on the MB’s RGB)

[gritty meadow]

why m-atx?

@fleet inlet

[fleet inlet]

Want to cheap out

Well ATX is fine too, but they are usually more expensive than other form factor boards (in my country)

Also, I think most of the M-ATx boards could serve me well and have all the features I need (GPU slot, Bluetooth and sound cards slots...)

Attaching 2-3 drives to it

Plus, I could benefit from smaller form factors since I’ll be getting a non modular PSU : I’ll have more space to route cables and manage them in the case @gritty meadow

Actually NVM. Don’t need RGB, all I need is the best bang for buck

[naive pendant]

I hate to re-post it here, and doing so by deleting the original message from general-chat.

But, Guys, I have a 4770k (overclocked with MSIs own software, whatever it gives) liquid cooled with Corsair h100i paired with GTX 1080.
Want to get myself a RTX 2080Ti soon.

Would 4770k suffice of that GPU? Or should I wait more and upgrade the whole rig altogether?

[elfin warren]

Wait and upgrade other things.

[fleet inlet]

Can anyone help me out with the question above ?

[elfin warren]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-steel-legend/p/N82E16813157868

[fleet inlet]

Thanks Bekora. I was thinking about that board too, but someone in LTT server told me VRM was meh/bad

Will I be fine with a slightly OCed 2600 ?

[elfin warren]

It's only bad if you're going to plop in a 3700x or somthing

3600/2600 is fine

[fleet inlet]

BIOS isn't to hard to navigate in right.

I have heard great things about the Steel Legend, but there are also 'mediocre' reviews here and there and the net

I just need something that I could use without encountering massive problems for at least 3 years with 2600 and 3600(x)

[elfin warren]

It'll be fine. For more RGB it's going to cost significantly more, in which case x570 is a better option.

[fleet inlet]

Alright thanks a lot, I’ll cop that and couple it with a Evolv X and a 2600.

[long geyser]

@fleet inlet Steel Legend (ATX and mATX) can support upto a 3700x with decent case airflow. So VRMs arent all too bad. AsRock does however fall apart in BIOS, lacking nice OC features and having a bad layout where options are in confusing places. However all in all it's good enough for standard use

[inner oar]

@long geyser what do you consider to be the best brands to look at for Mobo?

[long geyser]

depends on AMD vs Intel, for what CPU, what chipset, etc. Example, B450 vs x570 for AMD, MSI did a real good job on B450 but absolutely horrible on x570 and very few of their x570 boards are worth it

Pretty rare for a brand to be good on average for a specific lineup tho, MSI just did real well at that for b450. One shouldnt expect something like that to happen

So as such, dont go by brand but by model for the most part

[mild jackal]

100% b450 lineup ->go with msi, for x570 - now that most of the teething issues have worked themselves out, I think the $300+ market segment is pretty even and feature specific

[inner oar]

I've got an MSI tomahawk max spec'd out at the moment.

[cerulean forge]

This isn’t right is it?

[mild jackal]

build 9200? why

[cerulean forge]

Wdym

What the hecc I have Windows 10

[mild jackal]

nvm, forgot R15 does that

[wet storm]

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/mqvQGc can som expert take a look and tell me spesifically will i run into any problems while building this like a BIOS update or do i have enough ports for the fan rgb in my mobo or will anything overheat? do i have enough space... and is my psu enough? I WOULD APPRICIATE it soooo soo much but i know its a lot of work so im not insisting anybody to do, Thank you and sorry for my bad english!

[dusk oracle]

@cerulean forge are you testing for single thread?

[cerulean forge]

MULTI

@dusk oracle

[dusk oracle]

Well this is my R15 score https://i.gyazo.com/390917567fdfd6f1d09450528d9574a0.png

same processor as you see

@cerulean forge So what kind of memory are you using as well?

cause you can see i have the same CPU not overclocked and the score is a lot higher than yours

@mild jackal Do you find it strange as well that his CPU got that score?

[mild jackal]

Likely misclicked on a different test, or some program causing interference

https://hwbot.org/submission/4244730_forks_cinebench___r15_with_benchmate_ryzen_7_3700x_2307_cb

I think I just ran each benchmate test once when I first tested out ryzen, didn't bother much on OC

[dusk oracle]

doubt it cause look at all the other results and then look at mine

can see the 3770 is the same on the score

[mild jackal]

yes - it seems likely that score is in error

[dusk oracle]

Well the one thing i know is when doing said test to not do anything while it is running

But still for me to get exactly 1000 points on the dot lol

But anyways for new CPU's supposed to be using R20

[mild jackal]

r20 I get 5000 something both 9900k/3700x iirc.

[cerulean forge]

I ran it 4 times and I got the same score

@mild jackal

@dusk oracle

[dusk oracle]

Is your system running anything CPU wise right now

[mild jackal]

Run a userbenchmark

[dusk oracle]

If i was still playing my game while running R15 pretty sure i would of had a lower score

[cerulean forge]

Nothing open, just r15.

[elfin warren]

That seems like a single core score

[cerulean forge]

It wasn’t

[elfin warren]

How many cores show in Task manger?

Task Manger - Performance Tab

[cerulean forge]

It shows all 12 threads

On my Ryzen 5 2600

[elfin warren]

Do you have dual screens?

[cerulean forge]

Yes

[elfin warren]

Leave task manager open on one and run R15 on the other

See if all the cores are utilized or only one

And see what the overall utilization comes to

That's really close to the single core score

[cerulean forge]

It’s using all 12 threads

[elfin warren]

Better score or no? CLick on the memory section under Performance. What does your ram speed and slots used say?

[cerulean forge]

3000mhz ram

My score dropped

110

[elfin warren]

How many GB and how many slots?

[cerulean forge]

16gb how do I find slots

[elfin warren]

memory section

but with 16 GB you have two sticks?

[cerulean forge]

Yes

[elfin warren]

WIth you doing nothing, how much CPU load do you have?

[cerulean forge]

4%

[elfin warren]

If you go to Device manager, do you have any yellow triangles with a ! in them?

Unknown devices?

[cerulean forge]

No

I was looking recently

I’ll check again

Negative.

[elfin warren]

What motherboard and do you have the latest BIOS?

There is a bug with older BIOS that doesn't clock the CPU up under load. Sounds like yours might need updating

I've read a couple things about Ryzen and R15. DO you have a manual overclock or are you using PBO? @cerulean forge

[idle dragon]

Stupid question are 10th gen intel CPU’s out yet

[elfin warren]

No

Well, Mobile 10th gen

Is out but not Desktop

[idle dragon]

Thank you

[slate gorge]

Anyone build a ryzen 9 3900x on a Asus x370-a setup yet?

[elfin warren]

Not recommended

[slate gorge]

@elfin warren how so?

[elfin warren]

VRm can't handle the power requirement

You really need x570 at that point

[slate gorge]

Dang and Asus support page said it would work..

[elfin warren]

Well, it will work, yes

Provided you don't turn on PBO

But what's the point of a 3900X without PBO? Why spend $500 on a processor and $100 on a motherboard?

[slate gorge]

Smoking deals on Ebay. Lol

Wanted a threadripper but went with 3900x

[elfin warren]

Invest in a good board

I mean, an x570 board is only $150

https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-p/p/N82E16813119199?item=N82E16813119199

[slate gorge]

Sweet thanks

I bought the board first and went from there cpu is 5 days out still buying items as see good deals

[elfin warren]

Might have to hit up Ebay lol

[slate gorge]

Already did 86. 3 days left

[elfin warren]

No, I meant me lol

Found one for $405

[slate gorge]

Lol

[cerulean forge]

I have that x570 p board and it’s pretty good

[prisma spoke]

Can the ryzen 3 2200g handle a gtx 1070?

[urban ferry]

thats unbalanced

look for like a 1600 or 2600

imo

2600 can be had for $80 at micro center

[crude path]

getting a 2600 at that price at micro center requires you to also buy the mobo, if they are still running that promotion

[urban ferry]

oh

[crude path]

the 2600 is (was) on sale for 120 and they give you 30 bucks off if you also buy the mobo

idk if its still on sale

[long geyser]

2600 for more then $90 makes no sense. 1600 AF is literally a slightly underclocked 2600 for $85, can add $5 for the convenience of the OC or smth, idk

[dusk oracle]

All this talk about the 1600 AF and i don't even see it in stores

[fleet inlet]

It’s sold on Amazon, haven’t seen it in stores though

[dusk oracle]

Just looked on Amazon there is a 1600 but no 1600 AF

[fleet inlet]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-YD1600BBAFBOX/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=1600&qid=1579608352&sr=8-1

There y’a go

[dusk oracle]

That is just a 1600

[gritty meadow]

you are not supposed to "see" it

that is the actual point of it

[fleet inlet]

That’s right

There is "AF" hidden in reference name

Instead of AE

Both are sold under the same name though

[dusk oracle]

Still better to future proof a system than just getting a "now" only CPU

[fleet inlet]

I agree, but 1600 AF is a decent way to save some money for budget builds

[cerulean nova]

The af has basically the same performance as the 2600

[oblique palm]

Just would like to confirm, All Ryzen 7 Series Chip sets do not have integrated GPU's? If i try post on a 3800x with no dedicated GPU, would it give me a beep error? or would it silently no post?

[gritty meadow]

there are no Ryzen 7 series chips with integrated graphics

what a board does is dependent on the board

but it should just post

having a headless machine (a build without a GPU) is quite normal

does that answer it for you?

[oblique palm]

So should i still here beeps even though there is no GPU?

[gritty meadow]

in theory, no.

the board should not beep

but, for your own sake, (and for making your life much easier) install a gpu and boot with that

and then you can always just remove it later

[oblique palm]

K, Thats mostly what i wanted to know. I have a quite post, but without the GPU, no idea if it was a good or bad thing lol

[gritty meadow]

it could be good, it could be bad :)

[oblique palm]

Well, Ill be putting a 2080 Super in it next week, So ill just wait till then

[gritty meadow]

if you have an old gpu, you can just use that for now

[oblique palm]

Just hoping all the parts i bought are good.

[gritty meadow]

time will tell :)

[oblique palm]

Indeed. Thanks bro

[gritty meadow]

and no, i am not teasing/joking. it is just the reality of things :)

you are very welcome :) and congrats on the almost complete build :)

[oblique palm]

Thanks. Its my very first build.

[mild jackal]

2500k 2080 ti best

[inland stump]

I'm building a $1000 mini-itx system with a ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1660 super. I'm wondering if the Gigabyte b450 I aorus pro WIFI will be good enough, or should I spent the extra $100 to get the x570 I aorus pro WFI? What would be the advantages?

[gritty meadow]

not really any

newer BT module iirc [edit: spelling]

[hollow jolt]

Do I get a Ryzen 7 2700x or Ryzen 5 3600

[inland stump]

depends if you wanna multitask more (7 2700) or focus on 1 task (5 3600)

both will be great

So I guess the b450 will be fine then?

[hollow jolt]

What’s the different?

I want to record and play

[gritty meadow]

2700 = 8 cores

3600 = 6 cores

[inland stump]

the 7 2700 has more cores, meaning it will be better at multitasking, however the 5 3600 has faster cores, meaning it will be better at single tasks

[gritty meadow]

and what @inland stump just said :)

[hollow jolt]

More core then

I guess

[inland stump]

What games are you planning on recording?

[gritty meadow]

are you budget constrained?

[hollow jolt]

Fortnite

Minecraft

Rocket league

[inland stump]

pared with what gpu?

[hollow jolt]

RX 5700 XT

[inland stump]

Both cpu's should be good enough for at least 60fps recording with a 5700XT, to be honest I'd pick the 5 3600, you'll be fine with recording at 60+fps and when you're not recording, it'll be a little faster then the 2700

[hollow jolt]

Ok

[dusk oracle]

Recording and streaming he if plans on going with a 5700 XT it would be best to stick with the 2700

[mild jackal]

Go 3600, if you like to stream, add a nvidia something on there

[long geyser]

@inland stump 1k mini itx can at least get a 5700XT/2060S
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/thYGx6

Note for that build: you'll have to remove the shroud off the CPU cooler to fit in the case

[inland stump]

Yea I’ve done some tweaking and niw have a 2060S @long geyser

[long geyser]

good

[azure fractal]

is this ram ok?

OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memo

[long geyser]

It's okay RAM, nothing too amazing

[azure fractal]

ok

[long geyser]

@dusk oracle For the 1600 AF, you need to look at the part number.
old: YD1600BBAEBOX
new: YD1600BBAFBOX

[sharp blaze]

@hollow jolt just be aware that depending on the retailer stock, the b450 board may not support the ryzen 3600 out of the box.

[hollow jolt]

My has a 3000 ready sticker

Also I’m looking for a upgrade

So I should be fine

[wary cape]

I had some anomalies with 3000 on b450 but nothing super horrible

[oblique geyser]

can someone help me pick ram iv been researching for a while and come up with the conclusion that i have no idea what to pick 😫

[wary cape]

What’s the system you building?

Do you want rgb?

[oblique geyser]

rgb would be nice but not a deal breaker

msi b450 gaming pro carbon ac with a ryzen 2600x

[wary cape]

whats your price range?

[oblique geyser]

motherboard says its god for 3466 ram

[wary cape]

so from what i remember 3200 or 3000 mhz is the sweet spot for 2000

ive got 3000 mhz with my 3700x and its nice

[oblique geyser]

everywere iv looked it says 32oo ugh

3200

[crude path]

3200 is good ram

[oblique geyser]

but then people have also been saysing ..... might as well go for 3466 if you can

sooooooooo...... idk

[wary cape]

nah

you aint gaining that much more performance

[oblique geyser]

will i see performance difference between 3200 and 3466 that is worth the price difference?

[crude path]

just get 3000 or 3200 mghz and make sure you get at least 2. so if you do 16 gb do 2x8 sticks

[oblique geyser]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476?item=N82E16820232476&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820232476&gclid=CjwKCAiA35rxBRAWEiwADqB377qbIdXgfFoMogPMSjQs9GmenfM0G9vfi3rQ1Y126Wun3JagXhgNEBoC3rQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[wary cape]

@oblique geyser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJIAB7KBsk

it makes a slight difference but at 3000-3200 it plateaus

[oblique geyser]

yeah im using 2400 rn

[wary cape]

i have two of those kits and i like them

[oblique geyser]

akso looking at

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjO6PLIvZXnAhWBH60GHfDEAwoYABAJGgJwdg&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2dnJoxu2moc3V7UYsv2ktjmReIFrAsAp8pNCuqMLOPVNoiGRhEiYUkyamT23bn-GQSBOU9QCQfwKQIvEnea4&sig=AOD64_0q8p3lse66WltCifATOSXQZSG20w&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwix--nIvZXnAhXMl54KHaG_CtYQ9aACegQIDxBA&adurl=

[wary cape]

what other rgb software you use?

[oblique geyser]

timing for trident is 16-18-18-38 while corsair is 16-18-18-32 idk what that is but someone told me it makes a difference

[wary cape]

its the latency of the ram

the tighter the better

wait

[oblique geyser]

waiting

hehe

[wary cape]

the first number is latency to cpu

the second number is row address to column address