#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 93

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 12:21 AM

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what is a good mobo choice that fits an i9 EXTREME

amber venture Jan 13, 2020, 1:09 AM

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hey guys

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 2:16 AM

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dont go with inte l go amd

split copper Jan 13, 2020, 2:24 AM

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fanboy

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Fan Fan Fan

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 3:24 AM

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if you plan on going HEDT,Workstation Threadripper is better bet

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 7:49 AM

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how much FPS will this cpu get in fortnite
ryzen 5 3400g
along with
rx 580

dusk oracle Jan 13, 2020, 8:16 AM

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depending on the settings

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playing maxed out expect between 80 and 100 fps

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also at 1080p

restive wedge Jan 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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^ I studied a lot of benchmarks for that because I wanted to make a smaller pc for home. Every Fortnite benchmark I could find was 60-80 at medium settings.

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Lows of 50 with a lot going on, but an average of about 70 outdoors. 100 indoors though so it seems pretty well optimised.

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📎 Screenshot_20200113-101936.png

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Ignore that menu fps

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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What does the 3600 in the Ryzen 5 mean

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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model number

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Ah

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Is that like the third gen?

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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ryzen 5 just means its a 6 core

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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the ryzen 5 is the product name (ryzen) followed by the series (5) number

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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^

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Ah

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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and yes, that specific model is the 3rd generation ryzen

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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the 3400g and below is not

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Yeah I need to change my board then

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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?

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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hm?

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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All B450 Max boards have updated BIOS for 3rd gen ryzen

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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link your board @naive pendant

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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just quickly putting it out

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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It’s a b450 tomahawk

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450-Tomahawk/dp/B07F7W5KJS

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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you already own it or are you planning a build?

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Planning

gritty meadow Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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k

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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The max is only 3 dollars more and supports 3rd gen

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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basically

quaint current Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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yeah get the max

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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here

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/p/N82E16813144267?Description=b450 max&cm_re=b450_max-_-13-144-267-_-Product

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(theres also cheaper max boards but since you already chose tomahawk, just giving you the upgraded thing)

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Yeah

pseudo bluff Jan 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Achoo

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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i have a question about xmp

misty belfry Jan 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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what is the question, just ask

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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i contact asrock and they said to enable that after inserting 3200mhz

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and they even recommended it to stay with 3200mhz

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should i enable it

elfin warren Jan 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Why are you fighting xmp so much? Asrock is wrong. Just set it in bios and forget it.

high crystal Jan 13, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@naive pendant you shouldnt need to upgrade your board

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if it supports 3rd gen as a bios update, you just need a usb stick to upgrade it instead of putting another cpu in it before upgrading the bios

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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my 3600 kit wont post the xmp 2 profile im stuck at 3333. i know the feeling.

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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rip

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wait you're using 2700x tho @simple ore

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2nd gen dont support as high as 3rd gen

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unless your name is deceivingme

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:46 PM

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are you sure? someone was saying i does i think i saw a chart? maybe i might be wrong

hollow thorn Jan 13, 2020, 10:46 PM

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yes

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Its like 2nd gen supports to like 3333

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and then 3rd gen up to like 4133

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:46 PM

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well dang alright then good to know then

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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2nd gen i seen is like 3466 but its very memory controller dependant

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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im on an x570 mobo

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memory controller dependant?

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lol

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 10:48 PM

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all cpus have built in memory controllers

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it won't matter if on x570 you using sec gen

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cpus

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:49 PM

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How do i get msi afterburner to display the statistics on screen?

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 10:49 PM

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have to set it up on rivatuner which comes bundle with afterburner

simple ore Jan 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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okay im only seeing the fps counter and none of the other graphs what am i missing? >.<

naive pendant Jan 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@simple ore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77FgPG0cmAw

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reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Need some input. I'm looking to do some upgrades currently 16gb ddr4 and a 6700k. Im wanting to go with 32gb of ram but not sure what CPU to upgrade to. Im torn between ryzen 7 3800x and a 9700 or 9900k anyone have some input? cost doesnt bother me and I dont need to worry about upgrading gpu

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main thing I do is gaming

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@reef garden What do you need the ram for?

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Because high amounts of ram suggest like workstation workloads

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then AMD is clear choice

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I currently have multiple colors in my PC (red black blue and white) The ram is white and I want to go with some RGB ram and the 4 sticks would look at lot cleaner in my opinion

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:04 AM

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so no workloads using those?

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~~I suggest trident z neo/trident z rgb, those rgb look really nice~~

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:05 AM

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maybe some light video editing or some stuff on FL studio nothing hardcore, I was looking at trident z rgb

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Then it Might be nice to get amd, in case you need to do smth that would appreciate the extra performance, since you're not purely doing gaming

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Also, the 3800x is barely better than the 3700x, not worth the like 70$ more dollars stock price.

BUT if you can find the 3800x at a good price near 3700x, do it

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:07 AM

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another part of all of this is the flexing upon friends who are trying to have the best. I'm already at the top overall but need to be better lmao

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:08 AM

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heres the thing

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I bought my 3800x at 330$, same price as the 3700x

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but I dont think theres any sales like feb/mar

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I guess it should be a no brainer to get ryzen but I HATED my old AMD cpu went to intel and I havent looked back till now

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:08 AM

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yea AMD is back on track now

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pretty neato

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it might be worth waiting a bit tho

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isn't newer intel chips coming in like a month?

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Yeah I was thinking about waiting to see what comes out and get a new case cooler etc slowly

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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oh wait nvm

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aparently ice lake desktop chips arnt coming till 2021 Even though it was predicted to be released at CES2020 lol

long geyser Jan 14, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Expect nothing amazing from "new" intel chips apart from price drops

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yea

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looks like it

long geyser Jan 14, 2020, 2:10 AM

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due to being another refresh

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 2:11 AM

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so basically get a 3700x unless you can find a 3800x at a good price

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 2:12 AM

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what is a good motherboard that fits an i9 Extreme

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 AM

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When is the 4000 series coming out

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 3:31 AM

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prob like october

reef garden Jan 14, 2020, 3:34 AM

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I'll probably just wait on that then

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According to passmark everything on my PC is 99th percentile except CPU which is 90th so no worries on being able to play whatever. I'll just get case ram and a new AIO now then

restive wedge Jan 14, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@reef garden Get a 3950x for the ultimate flex.

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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I got my 3800x at microcenter for 300$

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during black friday

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Went from a 1500x to a 3800x

quaint current Jan 14, 2020, 12:32 PM

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o nice

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 12:54 PM

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the only new intel cpus will be another coffee lake refresh with 10cores that proby clock maybe 100-300mghz better than i9 9900k plus requiring a new mobo

quaint current Jan 14, 2020, 2:03 PM

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yeah they just increased cores, clocks, and turned it into a furnace without good binning

south gyro Jan 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@frank walrus nice upgrade 😄

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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intel really never cared for desktop anyway its showing even more by them giving up on competing

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focusing on laptops,servers

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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wut

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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we talking about 10th gen mainstream cpus

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Yeah, like the 22 core 10 series?

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4 core 8 thread i3?

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It's coming..........

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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we just saying vs i9 9900k its not going be any different just maybe 100-300mghz difference

split copper Jan 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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bruh

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what core clock on that i3?

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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nothing official yet

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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4.x ghz

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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base?

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Nothing official?

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What are you talking about?

split copper Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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rip my i7-4790

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5VCZ_6NwSIcc_1BCUpSAC4ZMLgm6R35aeF17mIAjNsY/https/i.gyazo.com/5c113fdb3c01ecd4aafcf1e28e60ecb6.png?width=475&height=640

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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intel has not came out publicity and said chips?

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is that on their site?

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Yes, they have

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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O than i am little behind sorry

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i might change my i9 990k to 10c if clocks to 5.3ghz

split copper Jan 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I know my i7 is 4th gen but

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that thing is better than it 😔

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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10990XE

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📎 Intel-Core-i9-10990XE-CInebench-R20.png

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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thats only HEDT part?

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x299 or is going on z490?

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Intel will also be hyperthreading all of the comet lake I5 and i3 processors

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So, expect some performance there

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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ahh

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@elfin warren you think 10c be able to clock 5.3ghz?

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on loop?

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@elfin warren where on their site or publicly has intel confirm 10 gen main stream cpus?

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i am looking at stuff right now its all rumors

elfin warren Jan 14, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Well, then don't believe it. However, rumors from reliable sources aren't really rumors. IF you think Intel is leaving the consumer market alone, you're incorrect. "Intel never really cared about desktop anyway". That's not even close to correct. They just haven't had competition in a decade and have been slacking.

gloomy goblet Jan 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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What would be a good Mobo around 150

split copper Jan 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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what cpu dawg

gloomy goblet Jan 14, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Amd

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Lol i jist wrote an essay on that article for class this morning

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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anyone selling a b450/x570 mobo or 16 gb of ram at 3600

severe igloo Jan 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Just got my new Mobo 😎😎

📎 image0.jpg

split copper Jan 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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nice

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@naive pendant How much are you willing to spend on ram?

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That’s the question

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Honestly, buy a x470 mobo. You don’t need the X570 unless you wanna overclock super hard.

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I bought my self the X470 Gaming-F mobo from Asus and paired it with a Ryzen 7 3800x and its working like a charm.

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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@frank walrus i mean u ghues like 80 bucks

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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That low for ram at 3600mhz

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Around Black Friday I got a pair of 3600 for 89$

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You don’t really need 3600mhz ram anyway.

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3000 or 3200 should do just fine

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You also mentioned something about a motherboard

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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i have a 3600 so yes i do need fast ra m

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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well

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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you might be able to get 3600mhz for 80 bucks lemme check

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Found it

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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right here

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236538?Description=vengence lpx 3600mhz&cm_re=vengence_lpx_3600mhz-_-20-236-538-_-Product

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oh yea

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ripjaw is better latency

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Mine has better latency

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Lol

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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thats what I mean

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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@naive pendant You gotta make sure your mobo supports up to 3600mhz

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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b450 board can support 3600mhz

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it depends on the cpu

frank walrus Jan 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Whoops

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 7:53 PM

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like if you have 2nd gen, you can only use up to like 3466, but 3rd gen supports up to like 4266

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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should i upgrade my mobo i have a b350 f gaming and a 3600 should i upgrade to b450 or x470 or x570 i think im going to get a 2060 ko or rx 5700

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:00 PM

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b450 is nice

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no real need to go much further

tropic pagoda Jan 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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just a quick question, whats the compatibility rating for a Ryzen 7 2700, Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING and RTX 2060 super be

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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what

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@tropic pagoda I dont understand the question

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be what?

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be compatable with what?

tropic pagoda Jan 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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together

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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It should

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no reason it shouldn't

dark smelt Jan 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I'm really thinking about getting the 3900x. Any performance gain with x570? I'd be upgrading from a 6700k

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Sirwendall, you looking into future proofing or overclocking?

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Actually wait 3900x

dark smelt Jan 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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@hollow thorn A bit of both?

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Well I would suggest x570 just because you're getting such a expensive cpu

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And if you want to OC or any future proofing, x570 would be good

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since x570 supports PCIE 4.0, usually has some better VRMs for overclocking and all

dark smelt Jan 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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The 3900x is appealing since I can do monthly payments on it through Amazon

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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oh yea heres a neat place to look for boards if you havn't seen this yet
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

Linus Tech Tips

Motherboard Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

Credit to:@VegetableStu @GoldenLag @LukeSavenije The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands. Currently only AMD boards are done because...

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You prob dont Need Tier S since thats like crazy nitrogen overclocking stuff

dark smelt Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@hollow thorn Thanks! I haven't got to look at much since I've switched jobs LUL

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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ah

dark smelt Jan 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I was already thinking of getting the ASUS TUF plus board

hollow thorn Jan 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ah

long geyser Jan 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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If you need to save money on that some b450 is good. Tho spending $500 on a CPU and $110 on a mobo is eh, extra $40 gets you a decent x570

naive pendant Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@long geyser i think you would be perfect for the techie role

long geyser Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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eh, maybe

hollow thorn Jan 15, 2020, 1:47 AM

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for sale? dat not allowed...

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 11:52 AM

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my B450 supports it

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@ 3600MT/s RAM

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AORUS has not failed me yet

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@misty belfry you have the b450 aorus?

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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b450 AORUS PRO I WIFI (ITX)

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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how doeth one overclock

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i have ryzen master overclock stuff but id want to do it in the bios

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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uh you go to like advanced frequency settings

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and then CPU frequency

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from the main page

elfin warren Jan 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Do it in Ryzen Master first to test it

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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if it's the same BIOS

elfin warren Jan 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Then make it permanent in BIOS

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Bekora is right

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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ive tested it in ryzen master

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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but I assumed he's tested it

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yeah

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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its stable

elfin warren Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Then apply your Ryzen Master settings into the BIOS. however you did it in Master

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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my specs is a ryz 7 2700 with 3200mhz dual channel kit

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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4.0 is stable for me but it gets too hot, my hyper T2 can't handle it

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i got mine running 4.025 and at load it only goes upto 60C

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:20 PM

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it doesn't exactly shut off or anything

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what cooler are you using

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:20 PM

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cooler master ml240

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aio

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the aorus bios is just weird for me i guess

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i feel like i could use an AIO

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i got mine for 70$

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https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml240l-rgb/

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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probably the fractal AIO because they're really good and RGBless

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and they have mounts for AM4 i believe

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so does corsair

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did yours come with an AM4 mount?

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yea

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im in canada and all the other aios broke into the 100$ range except that one i got

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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i try to avoid the RGB stuff because i don't have a side window and it's kind of pointless and expensive

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ah yea makes sense

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is it possible for me to get my 3200mhz stick to 3600??

misty belfry Jan 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-lite-240/ i wouldn't mind buying this

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well try it in ryzen master first

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and then see how it goes

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my 2400 OC'd all the way to 3200

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and it was seemingly 💩 RAM

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oh and two different sticks

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so i feel like you might get lucky

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 6:32 PM

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📎 IMG_20200110_141225.jpg

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I got these babies

meager scarab Jan 15, 2020, 7:31 PM

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whoaPanda

reef garden Jan 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@Mr1111#1350 thanks for telling me. I deleted it

hollow thorn Jan 15, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Yw

naive pendant Jan 15, 2020, 9:27 PM

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ryzen

cyan night Jan 15, 2020, 9:30 PM

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i9 can go upto 5.0ghz but ryz got more cores and threads

pastel monolith Jan 15, 2020, 9:41 PM

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depends on use case if its gaming only and you have the money get an i9

fathom tulip Jan 15, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Why does it say in bios that my CPU is running a 3.7 MHz but in MSI dragon center it says 4 MHz

long geyser Jan 15, 2020, 10:14 PM

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If it's for gaming and only gaming and you have 2.5k USD or more, then i9. If not then AMD

quaint current Jan 15, 2020, 10:28 PM

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^

broken hazel Jan 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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what would you guys say is the best cheaper x570 mobo

elfin warren Jan 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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ASUS Prime P

long geyser Jan 15, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Or that AsRock board, dont remember the name now

broken hazel Jan 15, 2020, 11:16 PM

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ok

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what about this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQJZDTX?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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@long geyser the phantom

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TGHV63W?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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nvm bekora is right

elfin warren Jan 15, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Asrock/Asus Prime same price

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either is fine

broken hazel Jan 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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ight thanks

reef garden Jan 16, 2020, 1:25 AM

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So more on what I was thinking about with what CPU to get I think ryzen will be best for me. I plan on single PC streaming plus pcie 4.0 is nice

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I'm still going to wait for the 4000 series

long geyser Jan 16, 2020, 1:41 AM

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tbh just 3600+2070S and do NVENC encoding

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4000 are like going to be actually released in like 0.7 years so it'll be a while

vagrant mist Jan 16, 2020, 1:50 AM

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unless you and your budget can wait that long

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 1:52 AM

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rumors has amd not launching 4000 series to October,November so its better bet to buy now tbh

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cna someone help me out

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i need ram for my asrock x570 phantom gaming 4

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what should i get

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@elfin warren ^

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i had to remove some items to place an order and i forgot to write down the ram

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i really need help

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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3200 cl 16 or 3600 cl 16 depending on your budget

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16 gb

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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can you send me a link for 2 16gigs

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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you want 32 gbs?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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if going 3200 cl14 is pretty affordable

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16gb

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232853?Item=N82E16820232853

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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or do you mean 2 8 gb

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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what about that one

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nvm they went it up

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will that ram work

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2 16gig sticks

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so 32gigs total

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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what cpu do you have?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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3700x

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thats what im going to have

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:16 AM

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this is $10 cheaper and its 3600 but it doesnt have rgb if you care about that

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:16 AM

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idc about that

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:16 AM

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ok well there you go

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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send me the link

dusk oracle Jan 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821222

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FzcH8TW%2Fgskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-yw60pYLb726DfCMaVsLBJw

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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which one

dusk oracle Jan 16, 2020, 2:18 AM

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which ever you can afford

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:18 AM

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is 16 latency safer

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i selected this one https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907

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is it fast

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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ya

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ryzen cpus like faster ram as well

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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do i just enable xmp and thats all on my motherboard

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i was told yes

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:59 AM

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ya

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 2:59 AM

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i dont have to select the speed

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 2:59 AM

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no its like a 1 click solution

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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📎 ASRX570ITX_BIOS_OCT1_1.jpg

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i found this online

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so i just select profile then save and exit

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some people say select frequency

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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ya and at least on my mb there was only 2 options, the default one and the XMP

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but idk about other mbs

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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i was only going to enable xmp and select 3600

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i just ordered my tower and motherboard

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before it was too late

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157884?Item=N82E16813157884

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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nice

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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@elfin warren helped me out

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looks like an awesome case

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plus putting liquid cooling on my processor also

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181141?Item=N82E16835181141

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Nice

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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i will update the bios after i get it plugged in

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but one of my friends is installing the aio but i will update the bios before he installs it

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im putting an m.2 in it also

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as a boot

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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ya it was a pain to update mine because i dont have a usb so i had to use aorus @ bios software to update it. i upgraded from a i3 8100 to an i5 9600k and the bios didnt support 9th gen

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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dang

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im using am3+ right now

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fx 8350

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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and i realized that after i had already installed the new cpu so i had to take it out and put the old one back in and then put the new one in again

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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with gt 730 video card

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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wow so a 3700x is gonna be a big upgrade then

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yep

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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what gpu are you getting?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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i went from consoles to pc gaming

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english

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you mean graphics card

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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ya lol

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479?Item=9SIA6ZPAHU1843

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i have a 1070 which is basically the equivalent of a 1660S

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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sweet

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i will be new to pc gaming

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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You already bought that card? @naive pendant

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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not yet

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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You have a budget for a GPU?

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Max price?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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$1300

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and thats the max i can go on the gpu right now

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my next one is a 2080ti

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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When?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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idk

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but im not rich

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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A 1660 it is more then enough.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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oh

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so for a long time

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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A few years

cerulean nova Jan 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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well considering you are even thinking about getting a 2080ti im gonna say you are at least richer than i am

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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i plan on playing modern warfare on it

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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It isn’t a bad card

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What resolution?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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1080

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Then it should last a while

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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1920x1080

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thats what she said

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I was able to snag a deal on the Evga 2070 ftw3 ultra card for 400$

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Not the super version

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:16 AM

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did you see the thats what she said sentence

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:17 AM

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......

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Walks away

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You said you are getting a X570 board? @naive pendant

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:18 AM

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already ordered it

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same with the case

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:18 AM

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How long ago?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:18 AM

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15 minutes ago

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i just ordered the case and motherboard right now

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:19 AM

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You don’t really need a X570 mobo. A X470 is more then enough. However, it’s all up to you because it’s your cash.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:20 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157884?Item=N82E16813157884

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:21 AM

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The price on the X570 mobo were too high so I decided to pair my 3800x with the X470 Gaming-F mobo .

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x470-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119099?Description=X470 gaming f&cm_re=X470_gaming_f-_-13-119-099-_-Product

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:21 AM

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its already been ordered

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:21 AM

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That’s fine

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I did buy the cpu and mobo at MicroCenter during Black Friday, so the price for both was way low.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:22 AM

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im pairing it with my 3700x

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with m.2 as boot and ssd for storage

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also liquid cooling

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:23 AM

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AIO?

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I would assume

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:25 AM

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yep

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i dont do stock cpu fans

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right now im using a hyper evo 212 on my fx 8350

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idles at 6

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max 32

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Lol

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That’s chilly

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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yep

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I have a Evga CLC 240 on my 3800x

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I got it when it was 80$ on Amazon

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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sweet

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i only use newegg

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newegg has never let me down

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amazon has

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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I usually go to my local micro-center

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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im buying a ups for my pc

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so if the power goes out i can safely shutdown my pc

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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They price match, so it’s a win for me

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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so does newegg

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I don’t have to wait for delivery.

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10 mins away

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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lucky you

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Newegg takes a few days

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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so

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Only one in my state xD

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i bought my modem from there i get it tomorrow

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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They are rare

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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who is

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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MicroCenter stores

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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never heard of them

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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They are a tech store that sells computer parts and are well known in the PC gaming community

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I got all my parts for my first build there

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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sweet

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I was lucky and built it the year ryzen came out

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:31 AM

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ever since i left console gaming my stress levels have gone down

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I used to play on consoles.

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However, I ascended.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:34 AM

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i left because of all the lying from support

frank walrus Jan 16, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Lying from support?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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they would lie and blame my end

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xbox and playstation were a close race

versed coral Jan 16, 2020, 4:26 AM

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anyone know the difference between M Power and X Power on the MSI boards? i cant find any spec differences but see an extra 6pin connector on the board. help plz! KEKW

reef garden Jan 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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curently have a 6700k and 1080ti so I can wait

long geyser Jan 16, 2020, 4:47 AM

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same. Could do a custom loop, as that is what Im thinking about doing

tired wren Jan 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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difference between i5 9600k and KF version?

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 6:23 AM

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kf doesn't have integrated graphics enabled

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the k SKU does

misty belfry Jan 16, 2020, 10:39 AM

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opposite for me

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re: newegg/amazon

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i still use newegg when they offer a better price but for acceptably fast shipping it can be expensive depending on what seller you're dealing with

dark sand Jan 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Anyone else think that DDR5 will be consumer ready by the end of 2020? I want it to be...but I'm thinking 2021 will be more likely. Gotta sync up with the MOBO and CPU readiness too

sharp blaze Jan 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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we are still at least 1 more generation from ddr5. Whatever replaces am4 might get it. 10th gen intel will stay on ddr4. early leaks showed that intel will bring ddr5 to server chips in 2021 but who knows when it will be on consumer boards.

hollow thorn Jan 16, 2020, 6:36 PM

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AMD said they are moving to AM5 Because of ddr5 I thought

cyan night Jan 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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id rather they not switch to ddr5 so fast >:{

hollow thorn Jan 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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they gotta tho

crude path Jan 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yeh gotta move forward

obsidian lagoon Jan 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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So I can spend another 1000$ on a new cpu mobo and ram?

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No

cyan night Jan 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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no they dont. ddr4 has finally become affordable. Innovation shouldnt always be at the expense of the consumer

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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the only one that thinks you have to upgrade is you :)

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stay on what works for you

crude path Jan 16, 2020, 7:43 PM

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see you say that but, when ddr4 came out ddr3 was still widely used and more affordable. even if ddr5 drops tomorrow ddr4 will still go strong for another year or 2

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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ddr4 will be around and in production for a good number of years still

long geyser Jan 16, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Given the history of DDR launches DDR5 will be pricy at launch. So DDR4 will still be widely used for a while after launch

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 8:51 PM

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AM5,z590 will be proby be dual platforms supporting ddr4,ddr5

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If really want a honest answer tho DDR5 proby only go into servers and threadripper first

real hinge Jan 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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is oloy trustaorthy like corsair because it seems sketchy based off the price and zero reviews

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trustworthy*

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for RAM

crude path Jan 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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seems to be fine from wat ive seen

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@naive pendant the chance of the IMC in the gen of cpu that uses ddr5 also supporting ddr4 is slim to none (imo)

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that was a lovely typo :)

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@gritty meadow really depends on what they want to do really

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D:

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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not really, it its a question of it making sense to include it.

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space being used for that is space that could be used for something else

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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threadripper and epyc would benfit more thats why i said they would be first too

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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it was different back when the MC was on the chipset. That made things way easier to finaggle

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and yes ofc DDR5 will be in servers first. That is a given.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:12 PM

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if know DDR5 is already in testing phase for servers too

#

yeah it interesting to see if DDR5 makes to it mainstream early @gritty meadow

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my guess it will since AMD new roadmap shows new socket for mainstream

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:13 PM

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that is a question of definition.

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IF aurora comes in on time, that will probably be the first rollout of DDR5 in quantity

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(Aurora being the Cray/Intel supercomputer for Argonne labs)

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and that is slated for sometime in 2021

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Micron DDR5 is in testing for servers and Samsung DDR5 in coming online this quarter with Hynix 3 quarter

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:17 PM

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the first chips got produced a couple of years ago iirc. The question is still: Is it actually ready.

#

i dont believe any of the vendors has said anything beyond: Things are progressing as planned

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and as with any semi-conductor company: "progressing as planned" = everything is fine until suddenly it isnt

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@gritty meadow https://www.pcgamesn.com/micron/ddr5-memory-release-date

PCGamesN

DDR5 has arrived! Micron’s next-gen DIMMs are 85% faster than DDR4

DDR5 memory is here!

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yes, sampling, for testing

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that is a lot of words to say: we wanted to write an article without substance.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeah all i was saying is DDR5 in sampling phase which good

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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sampling is not the same as it being "ready"

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is what i am saying :)

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intel has been sampling 10nm cpus for years now

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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tbh i know alot people going hate this commit but don't expect DDR5 for mainstream to 2025

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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if you mean mainstream budget builds? yes

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i would have to agree

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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when i mean mainstream talking consumer chips

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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i dont quite agree on that

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there will be a halo part at the upper end of the consumer market (not HEDT) that is DDR5 before then

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most likely start of 2022 (is my guess)

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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if talking halo for consumer than i agree but in terms of main adopition it will be a later 2023-2025

versed coral Jan 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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anyone know the diffrence in the MSI Xpower and Mpower mobo for a kaby lake?

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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the dimms in the pic are synch ram lmao

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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synch ram for servers

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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no

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synch ram from 20 years ago

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pre DDR

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dual notch

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non bga

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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aye, double notch

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also known as sd-ram

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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tru

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

#

O

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i miss read article btw

#

still DDR5 is on track

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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according to people that have a VERY big interest in showing the people financing things that things at least look like they are on track

#

as i said, wait and see for Aurora

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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tbh, im just gonna snag a buncha cheap am4 stuff once am5 launches

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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alot will

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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im hoping the build im working on rn lasts for the next few years

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i mean, im not a huge gamer or anything

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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i am quite curious where they (intel/amd) are going to improve things for the next couple of archs.

#

because power and density is getting real interesting

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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i wonder if AMD will delay AM5 to DDR5 rdy🤔

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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they will

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they wont push am5 until they can utilize ddr5

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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it would not make sense to not do that.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

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server,TR get new socket next year so maybe they will only offer DDR5 for them at first

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

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i mean, thats literaly the major defining part of the socket name

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am2 had ddr2

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am3 ddr3

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etc

#

wait

#

maybe not

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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nope

#

that doesnt hold :)

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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wait, actually am1 2 and 3 all had ddr3

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so am5 might still use ddr4

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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not likely, unless they need the socket for power/area reasons

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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yeah, i mean, theres no other reason for a consumer socket redesign

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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mind, all of this is just my opinion and guesses :)

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i think amd plan with zen 4 is make it up towards 24cores so proby change socket for power reasons🤔

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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nah, 24 cores is still doable

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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not if plan on making chip bigger with bigger ihs

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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zen 3 is doubling the core count per chiplet i thought

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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no they cancelled that

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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wishfull thinking imo

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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aww

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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only new thing about zen 3 is CCX redesign

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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i would like to remind you both that the software has to keep up with the cores too

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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yep

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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and we have jumped UP in core counts massively over the last couple of years

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yeah but you talking about a company who don't care about software

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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a lot of things are also going to be dictated by the console SOC designs

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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i just want better mobile processors

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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amd brute force their way to lead in adobe

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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1 or 2 watts lmao

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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that is a completely different topic, and one that i am going to respectfully disagree on.

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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tbh AMD main focus will be leading in laptops now

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

#

whats wrong with super low power mobile chips

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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not that part.

main pulsar Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

#

oh

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:35 PM

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the brute force part

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the mobile part is also a different topic.

#

one that i would love to have, IF i didnt need sleep :)

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:36 PM

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its whatever anyway we use our pcs differently buy for are needs

gritty meadow Jan 16, 2020, 10:36 PM

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gotta start these talks a couple of hours earlier :)

naive pendant Jan 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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sleep well @gritty meadow

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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what is a good mobo that fits an i9 extreme

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Is that the LGA 2066 one

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

#

?

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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the i9

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which one is it 🤔

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:50 AM

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my uncle says its a pre production extreme

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:50 AM

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hm

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so it will be XE?

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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i guess

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

any specific brand you want ?

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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not really as long as it has a 24 pin power source

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port

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Highest rating one is an ASRock x299 Taichi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072ZTTWFJ but if you want looks it might be a bit eh

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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thankyou

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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or you could get like the EVGA X299 MICRO ATX 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J9KWHK7 if you want a smaller form factor as its matx

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better wait untl you know proper specs of the cpu first tho

#

would be annoying getting a motherboard the cpu doesnt fit thatsok

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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yea

high crystal Jan 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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but as the other extremes are currently using 2066 i doubt it will change

prisma spoke Jan 17, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Is using a usb Bluetooth dongle better than Bluetooth from motherboard?

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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R5 3600 or r7 2700x for gaming. I know the 3600 has better performance now but in the future will the 8 cores be better utilized?

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 6:05 AM

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i think if you plan on playing the newest AAA titles, then the 2700x might be the better buy

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but very few games now will utilize 16 threads

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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So um. My mobo is a TUF B450M-PLUS which doesn't come with the wifi routers. So I was hoping if someone could help me choose a card? Or dongle that's best for it? I'm still pretty new to this and I don't know what the best way about getting wireless connection is. Thanks

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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a pcie card is the best option

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it will run you about 30 dollars

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Aw okay. Is there a certain way about choosing one

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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anything cheap will work fine

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https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Archer-T6E-Wireless-Technology/dp/B016K0896K/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=pcie+wifi&qid=1579244128&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

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but this

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is cheap rn

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but of course, this should be good enough if you dont wanna spend 35

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3V9KF2/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07R3V9KF2&pd_rd_w=RACVY&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=NOmNC&pf_rd_r=ZE50HKSHRWB1FD1PMV2A&pd_rd_r=29e561ab-06c7-4ea8-a1aa-b39f9bc4b5bb&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRFRMR0ZDWDFCOEo3JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjkwNjg5MzAxQkxKMFNKSEs4SyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA0Nzc0MklUMktWUDEwRFFZSiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Thank you very much. I was just really stumped. Tbf I should have done further research but when the board came and I didn't see router outlets I got a little scared

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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USB's are ok for the like 5$ price tag on them

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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yeah, very few motherboards come with integrated wifi

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and if they do, its like a huge selling point

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Ah oki

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Is there somewhere I can drop my pcpartpicker list

rose arch Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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its mostly MITX boards that come with integrated wifi

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youll occasionally find it on atx boards for some reason and rarely on MATX

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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I just wanted some advice to see if it's good or not for my first build

rose arch Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 AM

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most ppl drop a list in gen chat for advice

candid spire Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Right.
My brother has an itx board but his came with it

rose arch Jan 17, 2020, 7:00 AM

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yeah its usually a little m.2 e-key module

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Ok so i need help finding the right ram for my pc, its an all in one. And badly, i mean Badly Needs an upgrade. I'm trying to figure out what ram to use. Been trying to find the right ram and a cheap price. Just need 16gb.

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main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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get cpuz

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and it has a section that will tell you the dimm model number

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put that into ebay

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boom

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 7:59 AM

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an i3-4160

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i mean if it works it works

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:59 AM

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its a pretty bad machine

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cant afford new one

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so better off upgrading

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:00 AM

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i dont think 16gb is worth it, 8gb in this machine should be fine

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i mean, its not worth it to put money into this machine

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:01 AM

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yeah

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:01 AM

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but, if you dont have a lot of extra cash on hand, an identical 4gb dimm of ebay should be like 10

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:01 AM

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yeah]

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 8:02 AM

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what gpu do you have?

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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nothing running on intel graphics

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cant fit gpu in

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most of space is used

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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turn it into a testbench lol

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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what kind of system is it

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Its a all in one pc

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Does it have a WiFi thing

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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yes

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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like a wifi card

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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oh like those ones that are like in the monitor?

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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yeah

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yes it has wifi card

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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ahhh ok

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

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You could always buy the external types that would plug in that way but you would have to go hardwire or a USB wifi dongle instead

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

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main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

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wait

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it supports MXM gpus

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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so plug glu into wifi card slot

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i see

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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no

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an mxm gpu slot

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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@main pulsar would have to know the exact model

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and for the external it would be this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824725772.html

aliexpress.com

US $30.39 24% OFF|PCI E EXP GDC External Laptop Video Card Dock Gr...

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main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:07 AM

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like this

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oh wait

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i see what your saying

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nvm

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:08 AM

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I have seen a lot of tech tubers test that out and does work good but you loose Wifi and you would have a PSU on the table

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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so it would replace the existing io imput?

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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ya know, just get a 4gb sodimm

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anything else just isnt worth it

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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yueah i know

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its better off getting new pc

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but mum isn't wanting to work it out with me

cerulean nova Jan 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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on ebay that goes for like 200 maybe 250

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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i honistly want a gaming laptop due to portability

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i dont like lugging around an all in one

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-7020-MT-Intel-Core-i5-4690-8-GB-RAM-No-HDD-AMD-HD8490-Win-7-COA/164029946649 and slap in a GTX 1650 Super and you have a gaming PC

eBay

Dell OptiPlex 7020 MT -Intel Core i5-4690 8 GB RAM No HDD AMD HD84...

These include, but are not limited to swords, daggers, ninja stars, bb guns, airsoft rifles, etc. The towers can have scratches and pin dents. All the towers have Windows 7 Professional COAs. These may have pin dents and light scratches.

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The thing is with a gaming laptop is you really would need to buy one with a RTX 2070 or 2080 to make it last a long time

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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yeah

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Gaming laptops now are not like gaming laptops in the past where you can just swap out the GPU

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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the other thing i was thinking about is getting this and gettinga egpu, take the advantage of the thunderbolt https://www.lg.com/us/laptops/lg-17Z990-RAAS8U1-ultra-slim-laptop

LG USA

LG 17Z990-R.AAS8U1 : gram 17” Ultra-Lightweight Laptop with Int...

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dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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@main pulsar you remember those right

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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thicc boi laptops with upgradable gpus

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yeah, i used to have one

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did i ever upgrade

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no

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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I used to have one as well

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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it had a gt 730m

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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and i did replace the GS 9600 with a GT 9800

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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oh, much older one

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cool

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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It was when Asus made cool looking laptops

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@main pulsar look how cool those were back in the days

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:17 AM

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"fricking" dope

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almost said the badd word lmao

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Ya laptops back then were cool

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now they try too hard with RGB in the back (which you don't see) that kills your battery faster

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:22 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Getac-X500G2-X500-15-6-Touch-Rugged-Laptop-I7-4600M-2-90GHz-500GB-HDD-8GB-RAM/123967764719?hash=item1cdd0df8ef:g:bpQAAOSwpJRdxJF2

eBay

Getac X500G2 X500 15.6" Touch Rugged Laptop I7-4600M 2.90GHz 500GB...

Up for sale is a Getac X500G2 15.6″ Laptop. The screen is in good condition. The laptop has 1434~ hours of use. The fan seems to be running at full speed and is slightly loud. It has a Nvidia Geforce GT 745m onboard graphics and a 2-port SFP card.

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i want one of these

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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found the right ram https://www.amazon.com/memory-PC3-12800-1600MHz-SODIMM-laptops/dp/B00AWVKA48/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=4gb+1rx8+pc3l-12800s-11-13-b4&qid=1579249236&sr=8-4

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thats the ram in my pc

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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that looks familiar

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darn

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i must not have it anymore lol

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:26 AM

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does it matter if i use one from korea and one from china

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the korea one costs 42 aud

main pulsar Jan 17, 2020, 8:26 AM

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get whatever matches that model number

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where it was made doesnt matter

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:45 AM

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this is the exact model HMT451S6BFR8A but its hard to find someone that selling it

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it might be discontinued

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this is the closest i found https://www.amazon.com/memory-PC3-12800-1600MHz-SODIMM-laptops/dp/B00AWVKA48/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?keywords=4gb+1rx8+pc3l-12800s-11-13-b4+1508&qid=1579249841&sr=8-2-fkmr0

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm750x-cp-9020179-na-750w/p/N82E16817139233?Item=N82E16817139233 will this fit my full size case

crude path Jan 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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should but we dont know what case

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069

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the connector that goes to the cpu connector

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i have a long 4 pin that can transfer into an 8pin

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2 x EPS/ATX12V 8-PIN (4+4)

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one is long one is very short

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23”

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That just not including the connectors

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:42 PM

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that should be fine

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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but will it have enough room to run out the back

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:47 PM

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rephrase? (because that question does not make any sense to me)

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:49 PM

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will the cable be long enough so i can run it out the back in that case

crude path Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yes you should be able to run the cables through the cable management side of the case

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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i am not certain that is what is being asked

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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im using the https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm750x-cp-9020179-na-750w/p/N82E16817139233?Item=N82E16817139233

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yes, we know.

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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thats what i was asking

crude path Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 PM

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lol

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 PM

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i was worried i never have used a full size case before

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 PM

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it is just a atx case

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it is not a super duper huge freight container :)

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 PM

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ive been using mid towers

crude path Jan 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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im pretty sure that is basically a mid tower isnt it

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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does not really change that much in regards to the psu

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yes

crude path Jan 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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but oof i love that case

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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same length

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:49 PM

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@crude path my case is a full atx

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i almost instead of going ITX bought a define XLR2 (also very silent, full tower) and a full ATX board

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:57 PM

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how much difference is the inside compared from a mid tower to a full tower

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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depends on the specific cases you are comparing

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there are full towers that are twice the volume of what you are getting

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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this is what im using now https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553007

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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and there are full towers that are 10% more volume than what you are getting

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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and im switching to the one i posted earlier

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 PM

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i have a job for you :)

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 PM

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i dont do jobs

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 PM

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go to google, search for the specific cases

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compare the measurements

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and answer the question yourself, you might learn something in the process :)

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 6:59 PM

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i just want to know the difference inside compared to those 2 cases

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:00 PM

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and that would require that someone did what i just suggested you do :)

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@elfin warren

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i have like 5-6 inches of excess

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of cable left

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:02 PM

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here is a hint for you: Both are atx cases

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:03 PM

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but my new case is 14" taller

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:03 PM

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and?

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:03 PM

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that shouldnt matter on the inside

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is that right

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going from power supply to motherboard

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:04 PM

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compare where the psu and the mainboard are in relation to each other

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:04 PM

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im just worried that i cant run the cpu power connect around the back

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both are on the bottom

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Oddly the front of that case reminds me of master chief

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And i can tell that case have good airflow

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:07 PM

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which case

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:07 PM

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the one you linked

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:07 PM

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oh

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:08 PM

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cable management is alright now the best but can still be clean

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:09 PM

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but will i have excess for the cpu power cable

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:11 PM

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as i said, compare the measurements

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and compare where things are placed.

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:11 PM

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i have brain damage

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:19 PM

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me too, but i do my best

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you probably want some cable extensions

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for both the 24pin and the 8pin

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for the GPU it shouldn't be a problem

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Anni for the case he showed i don't think he would need extensions for the 24 pin

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:21 PM

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oh really?

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he just said 14" more and i was like that's quite a stretch

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I have had a case with similar design inside and i was able to route cables well

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:22 PM

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to make it simple.

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psu is in the same spot

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mainboard is in the same spot

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it is everything "around" that is bigger

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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oh, i see

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I have had this case once https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1p7uoeBBWL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

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Cooler Master K350

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was a nice case

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only 3 fans though

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1 front 1 rear and 1 side

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@misty belfry thats how much taller the case is

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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The only thing he might need an extension for is the 4/8 pin connector

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No idea what board he will have so

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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asrock x570 phantom gaming 4

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its at the very top

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:31 PM

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so 8/12 pin

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:31 PM

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8 pin

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cpu power connector

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Well i see a 8 and a 4 https://images.anandtech.com/doci/14472/IMG_20190529_101636_678x452.jpg

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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and where is it in/on your current board

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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at the top

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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now refer to what i just said earlier

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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thats how much i have left

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i can even go around my cooler

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should i have enough cable

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but if i have the fan blowing out the bottom i will have even more slack

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@naive pendant There is one thing you can do before putting in the new motherboard

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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i plan on having my fan upside down

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blowing out the bottom

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so i will have more cable

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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If you look carefully here you can see a small cut out for where you would thread the 8 pin connector for the board https://i.gyazo.com/72444406dd4c3e0b643993e7f74d42ae.png

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:40 PM

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this one is a 4 pin

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my new board is a 8 pin

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:40 PM

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talking about for your new board if you get it

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:40 PM

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its not going in this case

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this is my old case

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:41 PM

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If i had that case id reuse it

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To be honest i like when cases looked like that

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have a little bit of light shine out from the side vents

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i still think the fractal define series is the ultimate design for looks

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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define?

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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define yes

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there are a lot of cases in their define series

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/

Fractal Design

Define Series by Fractal Design

The Define Series of cases focuses on delivering the perfect balance between silent operation and minimalist Scandinavian design. The understated look and feel allows for a natural fit into your home or office while never compromising on quality, performance of configurability.

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:44 PM

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im putting liquid cooling in my case

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I like mesh in the front guess this is why i like the Focus G more

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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do you have experience with liquid cooling (I assume you mean a custom loop)

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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i would assume an AIO

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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the define series come with really high pressure fans to suck as much as possible out of the front

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so it's not a big deal that there isn't a mesh

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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My case i have now i prefer the way it is cause the cooling is different

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little tired so

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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im mounting it at the top

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@misty belfry just in case if you forgot this is the case i have now https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:50 PM

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such RGB

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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came with the case so i can't complain lol

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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my case doesn't do anything cool

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it doesn't even cool itself until i get a second fan up front, since it only came with one, the cheapskates

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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If you were to get a new case id suggest this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147300R

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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RGB

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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one reason is the RGB but the other reason you can see for the cooling

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 7:55 PM

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yeah it's got good airflow

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i just like to laugh about the RGB trend

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because it was like suddenly everywhere

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 7:56 PM

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The case i showed you this is how great the airflow is https://i.gyazo.com/34b6f50efee818d71f5fb91d5a441e45.png

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average 24c

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for my GPU https://i.gyazo.com/c9004d68873ad245588fc99b1fe56535.png

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@misty belfry think about it i am only using 4 fans lol

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 8:03 PM

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damn

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i'm definitely getting myself a new fan for this thing and a 5-way fan splitter so i can install an AIO later

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or alternately install some top fans for intake

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there's an open mesh on the top of the case

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in fact i could just consider the front fans useless and grab another fan and move them up to the top

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then grab an AIO and put it up front maybe since cooling an AIO is more about static pressure than overall air movement

dusk oracle Jan 17, 2020, 8:07 PM

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normally it is good to have the front for intake and the top/rear for exhaust

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 8:08 PM

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i see

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i might do the low pressure high exhaust thing

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it could make this case an airflow beast

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as i understand it that creates air currents going up and to the back of the case which helps to move air faster than just the front fans can

weak hamlet Jan 17, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I have one of these laying around https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I

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it worked really well when I needed it.

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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oh man that

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that's awesome

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not sure how managing the cables with that would work

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i feel like it'd be a bit troublesome because you have a box in the mix

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present company excluded

weak hamlet Jan 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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it's not that big.

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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probably velcro it to the side of the case and just zip tie the fan cables together

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bit of a cheap job but whatever

weak hamlet Jan 17, 2020, 8:47 PM

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yeah that's what I did

misty belfry Jan 17, 2020, 8:48 PM

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it works, it keeps the airflow going

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 8:49 PM

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whats a good temp reader for ryzen cpu's

gritty meadow Jan 17, 2020, 8:53 PM

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the master tool

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 9:08 PM

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is core temp good

weak hamlet Jan 17, 2020, 9:18 PM

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its ok.

elfin warren Jan 17, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ryzen Master is the most accurate.

naive pendant Jan 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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oh

dusk oracle Jan 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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HWiNFO

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then again that checks temps for everything else

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Their temps aren't accurate though

dusk oracle Jan 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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back and their temps are very accurate cause i had that open with Ryzen Master which both was saying the exact same temps

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 12:48 AM

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For Ryzen 3000 they read differently, installing now to see if it's changed

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Side by side on my 3700x, it's not reading the same voltages nor temps

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1.425 in HWInfo, 1.24 in Master

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46C in HWInfo, 32C in Master

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CPU Power, 35W in HWInfo, 8 W in Master

dusk oracle Jan 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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You sure you're reading from up here right https://i.gyazo.com/124d6b7b69cf5bc0c4bc44302785d2a0.png

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Yes

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Current Column

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PPT, TDC, and EDC are correct

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it's a known issue with HWInfo and Ryzen 3000 series

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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HWinfo has AMD microcode to monitor

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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It doesn't match Ryzen Master though, side by side, they are different

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HWInfo reads higher temps and voltages

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I emailed AMD they said master is only ment for overclocking and should used hwinfo for monitoring

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latest beta version anyway reports same temps as ryzen master

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of hwinfo

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could be different per gen but TR Hwinfo and master report same temps @elfin warren

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I literally just did the above tonight, side by side

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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on ryzen cpu or tr?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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3700x, just like OP has

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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interesting

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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There is a known issue with HWInfo and 3000 series AMD CPU's.

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1000 and 2000 series are fine

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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on TR core temp and ryzen master and hwinfo report all same temps on 3970x

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have tried latest beta version?

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of hwinfo?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Yep, that's what I downloaded

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I can check it again but there was a large descrepancy

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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let me check on 3950x and asus e gaming

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x570

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where you under load or just idaling?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Just idle

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BUt temps and voltage were way off

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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which voltage you going off mobo part of hwinfo or cpu?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Ryzen master CPU and HWInfo CPU

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See, right now HW Info says 38, Ryzen Master says 31

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Celcius

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:14 AM

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you going off package temp or ccds?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I look at all of them

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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package is always 8c ahead

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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none of them match Ryen Master

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CCD, Die nor Tctl match

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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strange my temps reporting the same on 3950x

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only part is that wrong is voltage

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I dunno, it's a thing. I found a Reddit post that something was odd with the Ryzen 3000 series and HWInfo didn't have the microcode for them

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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i send you latest version to check for yourself

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I just downloaded it again

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6.21-something

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beta

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6.21-4050

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@elfin warren https://www.fosshub.com/HWiNFO-old.html

fosshub.com

HWiNFO

Free, in-depth hardware and real-time system monitor and analyzing program for Microsoft Windows OS.

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I literally did that 5 minutes ago lol

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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o

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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6.21-4050 portable beta

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I am using full installer

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Full installer doesn't have the Beta available. Also, you sent me a link to the HWInfo OLD section

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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yeah to find latest beta version its under old secetion

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first one to click

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I see now, you gotta click the Get Latest Version

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and that's the version I have

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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which mobo?

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Asus TUF Gaming X570 wifi

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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sometimes vendors like mess with pbo without telling people like mce

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Nah, this isn't a PBO issue

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You're on TR

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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i am testing 3950x right now btw

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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this is a 3700/3800/3900 issue

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Ah

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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i own 3950x for spare gaming rig

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Nice

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yeah maybe its lower skus but from what i can tell minus 3950x and above

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issues

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strange bug

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i wonder how 3950x is immune to it

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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No idea

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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My b if sound like was attacking you too @elfin warren

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Nah

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I could have missed something

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Or learned something

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Still might I dunno lol

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:25 AM

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honestly even ryzen master is proby wrong on everything no software can keep up with how fast these chips ideal and boost so everything is proby like 2-3ms off

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Master anyway still acts strange on TR too @elfin warren

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like it still works like 50/50

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I dunno. Master has been fantastic for me

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Temps report quickly, voltages seem to read right

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Oc testing and setting is ok.

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yeah master is good just 50/50 for me on working

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when i mean working is opening

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Ohhh

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Never had that issue

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yeah alot times its give me please reinstall so i am kinda over it

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:29 AM

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I know vbs can interfer with it

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Make sure that's off

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In the bios as well as os

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That is also a known issue

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:30 AM

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i need vbs since my NAS

elfin warren Jan 18, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Ah

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Well, that's the issue to be honest

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Most likely

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It's documented by amd

naive pendant Jan 18, 2020, 2:31 AM

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tbh AMD should just fix master not interfare with vbs than

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at least on TR side since alot work station users uses NAS's or contect to big server with storage so vbs is must