#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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naive pendant
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That's where my prime day 2700 went haha

misty belfry
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haha

gilded crest
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Gamer Edition.

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it has 486 cores or something like that.

misty belfry
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how fast is that one

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33

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psssh

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486DX4/100 was the real MVP back then

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it was actually better than the pentiums which were still clocked slower and didn't offer any real new instruction sets

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cyrix made a clone but it was not good

gilded crest
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I didn't have to pay for this one. I scape it due to not being able to test it.

restive wedge
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If anyone knows more about ram than me, since my ram I want to buy more of is out of stock in the UK, Is it fine to buy 16gb of the Viper steel 3600mhz CL17 (Probably OCable to cl16) which is quite cheap or spend £10 more to get 16gb G.Skill ripjaws V 3600 CL16?

misty belfry
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i'd spend 10 quid more, if you can afford it, the cost to match up to your existing RAM is worth it

restive wedge
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Its just a pain ordering from newegg. But I have the time to wait I guess.

misty belfry
restive wedge
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You can switch it to UK in site settings but its literally just US sending to the UK

misty belfry
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oh wow

restive wedge
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And I have no idea if £85 is going to get me slapped with 20% VAT or not

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I think I would.

misty belfry
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and then you have to pay the VAT right where you receive the package

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haha i've ordered old video game consoles from japan for over $300 (i'm a turbonerd, sue me) and had them mark it as a gift

restive wedge
misty belfry
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in the US customs doesn't open boxes typically unless they're large or heavy

restive wedge
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Literally £15 or over

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So Im screwed.

misty belfry
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eh that sucks

restive wedge
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That'd be over £100 at that stage.

misty belfry
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RAM is expensive

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apparently

restive wedge
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Mostly my fault, didn't think to order ram early before christmas prices returned to normal. Or to insanely high degrees, so they can then claim high prices are normal and have them on sale for the rest of the year

misty belfry
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it's mostly the VAT that's so high

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the base price isn't the worst

restive wedge
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I am curious as to why Newegg is also charging VAT though.

misty belfry
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how does newegg notify the UK authorities that VAT is paid

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so that you don't get charged again

restive wedge
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Not that I know but its definitely shipping from the US

misty belfry
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yes

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so they shouldn't be charging VAT, rather allowing customs to charge it

restive wedge
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I could understand any kind of US sales tax but I dunno how they get in about with that.

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I might just have to go for it.

misty belfry
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well US sales tax is a really specific thing

restive wedge
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Ill see what money I have and if any options come back up during january

misty belfry
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sales tax is per-state

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i live in montana so i don't pay sales tax anywhere

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rather anywhere i shop

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unless i leave montana and go into a store

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sales tax is like VAT

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but it's much less

restive wedge
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If your military spending was proportional to ours you'd have more than enough

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But thats politics, and this is ram.

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I gotta go to work, see you

misty belfry
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take care

muted roost
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Alright so I did a bad

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I followed a hardware unboxed video for dram overclocking

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I put all the values from the memory calculator in the bios

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I saved the bios

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Now I can’t get it to post

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Still pretty new to pc building

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Anyway to clear the bios settings to get a post

muted roost
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Fixed it with a cmos clear

meager scarab
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Nice

shy wyvern
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Nice

quaint lark
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costs aside, is there any performance difference with 3200mhz cas 14 vs 3600mhz cas 16?

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i7 9700k cpu if that makes a difference

simple ore
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Do most SI manufacturer their own motherboards?

pulsar fulcrum
simple ore
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X97?

pulsar fulcrum
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Z390

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im wondering what brand

simple ore
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Msi

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Might not be the same but that's close.

pulsar fulcrum
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ok thx

sharp blaze
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@simple ore The big companies like HP and dell and Acer use their own motherboards. companies like cyberpower, ibuypower, and nzxt, almost always use the same off the shelf parts that you could buy yourself.

simple ore
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I knew those used off the shelf parts. Didn't know if the others actually outsourced someone to build their boards or what.

sharp blaze
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There are rare occasions, mostly many years ago where acer and HP would often use asus boards. but even then the boards were custom built by asus for them and had limited options in the bios

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these days HP is too worried about locking down their systems so I doubt they will ever use anything except their own designs

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Quite often the oem's like dell and HP dont even follow atx standard for their motherboards. the mounting holes and layouts will be completely custom. They are also known to change around the 24 pin wires on from the power supply so that you cant even replace the power supply if it dies without getting the exact model from them or ebay.

somber trench
hollow thorn
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I just like MSI, but steel legend is supposed to be a good board

sharp blaze
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The asrock and the aorus are going to be better than the msi. That particular msi board is one of the worst am4 boards that msi makes.

tropic wren
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MSI MPG X570 Gaming PRO Carbon, is it any good?

simple ore
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Anything other than a gigabyte board is good imo.

tropic wren
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@simple ore How do you like your 2700x, does it still hold up in modern games

simple ore
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Yes. I also stream and don't see any issues getting the frame rate.

tropic wren
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Its what i have until i can get ahold of a damn 3950x200Sad

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Im thinking about using it in my brothers build im doing for him

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once 3950×s are in stock

simple ore
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It's a good CPU for the price.

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If you are just gaming get the 3600

tropic wren
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Well ik that im just wondering if its even woth repurposing it once i upgrade

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for my bros build

simple ore
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Yup save the money don't buy a new CPU.

naive pendant
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O

naive pendant
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Does the ssd coolers on gigabyte mobos work well

hollow thorn
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Usually they arnt ssd coolers, they just look nice

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You also usually dont need extra cooling on the ssd

naive pendant
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Mmm thanks

long geyser
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@sharp blaze Where'd you get that info? Auros M seems to have worse VRMs and is ranked two tiers lower on new LTT listing than both other boards. AsRock seems to lack some nice BIOS features (like LCC)

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@somber trench Im more leaning towards MSI tbh. Auros M has meh VRMs, AsRock has a worse BIOS, leaving MSI to be the better option

sharp blaze
tropic wren
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Need a mid tier x570 board for my brother about 250 to 300 dollars , needs to be Atx, and he ssays prefably built in wifi. Any good reccomendations yall have i have no experience with that price poimt on x570

sharp blaze
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pure vrm isnt the whole story. I have an asrock b450m pro4 which is 3x2 phase and I can tell you from experience it had no trouble running a 2700x and boosting all cores over 4ghz with pbo and xfr. the cooling solution on the vrm is very adequate with even minimal airflow. The aorus is a doubled 4 phase. The ideal choice of board if a matx board is needed would be just about any other msi matx board since the vrm on almost all their boards is similar. particularly I would go with one that has flashback. The bazooka v2 does not have that.

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However having used the asrock boards and owning several aorus/gigabyte boards I can say that the asrock software is abysmal compared to the aorus software, and the aorus software is not great. The higher end taichi boards use different software that is actually decent from what I have read, but the cheaper boards 😦
that said, other than some duplicate settings in the asrock bios which make it confusing at times the bios settings worked for me. The fan control in the bios worked, the rgb control in the bios worked. the only true oddity was that it would let me use both offset and manual core voltage at the same time which can lead to some dangerously high voltages if you are not careful. I am used to aorus boards where you get locked out of one if you use the other on the high end boards and on the lower end boards they only have offset as an option.

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As for the msi boards. I have not owned an msi board since socket 775, but their b450 boards are good from everything I have heard. I just would not buy any of the bazooka boards if I had the choice of any other boards from them.

pliant sandal
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Right so

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Not reading that essay

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But I ordered a b450 gaming plus max (still waiting)

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It's like 100 bucks and I've heard great things about it

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Not sure what cpu Dark has but I guess 3rd gen ryzens will work fine with (sometimes) a bios update

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I'm going to pair a 3600 with mine

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I'm not sure if you really "NEED" and x570

main steppe
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when i change my mobo do i have to wipe my hdd?

pliant sandal
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No

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Atleast I dont think so

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I haven't done it in a long time

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But it doesnt make sense if you had to

gritty meadow
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you dont have to wipe it @main steppe (it is however fairly common to recommend a fresh install of the OS, which is what i suspect caused you to ask)

main steppe
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yeah my brother came to my room and said that to change my mobo i hade to wipe my hdd and reinstall windows

gritty meadow
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there is a very good chance that your windows will complain about needing a fresh activation when you do

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so keep that in mind.

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and the "fresh install of the OS" advice is based on this: When the mainboard is changed, that is rarely the only thing. So starting fresh is a good idea, especially if you are not that experienced. (i would personally recommend it even if you had a lot of experience)

somber trench
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@long geyser thanks for the reply, i'm also open to any ITX Mobo for the 2700x if anyone wants to suggest ones

long geyser
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@somber trench Doing further research I see that the MSI one is also kinda meh. Hardware wise the AsRock seems to be best followed by Gigabyte (VRMs, fan headers, audio jacks, RGB headers, etc). BIOS wise MSI is best followed by Gigabyte. So idk

naive pendant
somber trench
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not really going to be doing much OC will most likely stay at stock

naive pendant
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Side note - I picked up a 100mhz 1300v differential scope probe, but can't decide on a current clamp, input welcome.

somber trench
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just needing a good mATX or ITX mobo for the 2700x

naive pendant
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b450/m gaming plus, tomahawk, bazooka - whatever's on sale + combo wil win out for price/performance.

somber trench
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Thanks, the gaming plus would be cheaper but would have to buy new RAM, would would then make it more expensive than the bazooka v2

naive pendant
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For clearance? Or qvl?

somber trench
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was just looking on amazon and newegg, no clearance

fleet inlet
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The B450 Aorus Elite can get a BIOS update with a 2600 so that I can upgrade to 3600 in the future am I right ?

pliant sandal
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Idk

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I know it works like that on the msi b450

dusk oracle
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B450 you can use a 2000 series chip to update the bios for the 3000 series

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but if you have a 2600 you would have to think bigger like a 3700X or 3800X

hollow thorn
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Yes

sudden coral
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3600X vs 3600

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which one to go with?

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also a mobo that is compatible withotu bios update would be pretty spicy

hollow thorn
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3600 unless 3600x is like 200$

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Basically all new b450 boards are conpatable

sudden coral
hollow thorn
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Probably

sudden coral
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I'm gonna use my 1660 ti from an old pc

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rn im using the 1660 ti with an i5 7400

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chokes a lot

hollow thorn
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Um, you might want to look into getting a m.2

sudden coral
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perhaps

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im hoping to build it next year

dusk oracle
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@sudden coral All MSI Max series boards are up to date for 3000 chips

sudden coral
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awesome

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I also might be able to get that 3600 for 100 from a friend

dusk oracle
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Also i would suggest the Tomahawk

sudden coral
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trying to keep the price under 500

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edit the parts list and dm me it

dusk oracle
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would still be under 500

naive pendant
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anybody know why whenever i try setting my ram to 3600 it doesn’t boot

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it’s corsair vengeance 3600 rgb pro ram

sudden coral
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not compatible with my case lol

hollow thorn
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Are you using XMP profiles?

sudden coral
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I'll go with this I guess

hollow thorn
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@naive pendant you're on 3rd gen ryzen right

naive pendant
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yeah 3600x

sudden coral
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barely over 500 but I should be able to rack up some money over time

hollow thorn
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Using xmp profiles?

naive pendant
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and i’m not exactly sure what xmp profiles are so no

hollow thorn
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How are you setting the speed

naive pendant
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ai tweaker

hollow thorn
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What the hecc is that

sudden coral
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wanna help me find a good ram kit?

naive pendant
sudden coral
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trying to get atleast a 3200mhz

hollow thorn
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Oh you might have to up the infinity fabric clock to 1800

naive pendant
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i already tried that

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didn’t work

hollow thorn
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Prob timings

naive pendant
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it’s just been running at 2133 this whole time

hollow thorn
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Link me your ram

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I'm on mobile and I'm too lazy to look it up

naive pendant
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timings are all set to auto

hollow thorn
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Okay change them to 18, 22, 22, 22, 42

naive pendant
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this is what i’m looking at

hollow thorn
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Change the first 5

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There is where the issue is at

naive pendant
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alright

hollow thorn
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Because rn you're basically trying to run it at like cl15 on ram sticks rated for cl18

naive pendant
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alright now we try booting

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oh okay

hollow thorn
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It still might be worth it to find where you select Xmp profiles

naive pendant
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it didn’t work

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okay now we try xmp profiles??

hollow thorn
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So in the main section

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Can you send a photo

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I work with MSI bios not asus do idrk where everything is at

naive pendant
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are either of those what i need

hollow thorn
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Go to advanced

naive pendant
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this is all advanced shows

hollow thorn
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Where the hecc

naive pendant
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in tool there’s like user profiles

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but idk if that’s what i need

hollow thorn
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Look for anything that says XMP or a-xmp

naive pendant
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there’s literally nothing

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even when i search

gritty meadow
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@naive pendant you are looking for a setting called something like D.O.C.P

naive pendant
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okay so it booted at 3200

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ohhh i saw that

gritty meadow
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XMP is the intel name for it

naive pendant
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what exactly do xmp/docp profiles do

hollow thorn
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(Yay my msi bios still calls it xmp)

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Aight ima let you take over

gritty meadow
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DOCP is asus specific iirc.

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nah @hollow thorn i am on my way to bed, just looking before turning off the monitor (timezones and all that jazz)

hollow thorn
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Alright

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Good night!

naive pendant
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damn it still won’t boot at 3600/1800

hollow thorn
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So can you go to docp

naive pendant
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yeah

hollow thorn
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Show me if you can?

naive pendant
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i enabled it

hollow thorn
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Interesting

naive pendant
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that’s all there is

hollow thorn
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Huh

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And it still doesnt work?

naive pendant
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yeah still won’t boot

hollow thorn
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Hecc

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Ima leave bc idrk now

naive pendant
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alright, thanks for the help

misty belfry
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DOCP is just a name they're using for XMP

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still reads the XMP info

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and uses that info to configure the RAM

naive pendant
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okay it booted at 3400/1700

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still can’t get anything at 3600

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which is annoying since it’s 3600 rated ram

long geyser
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consider changing voltage

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and timings

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There is standard usage voltage and boot voltage (on boot itll use boot voltage and then switch to standard voltage)

naive pendant
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so raise boot??

long geyser
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some mobos dont have the boot voltage tho

naive pendant
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okay i’ll check

long geyser
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but yeah, raising boot voltage can sometimes fix it

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also could be called something else

naive pendant
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because it did raise voltage

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but not sure about timings

long geyser
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but boot voltage for RAM, just to be clear that we arent talking about CPU or anything else

naive pendant
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yeah i don’t see an option for boot voltage

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any chance updating my bios will fix it?

hollow thorn
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Maybe who knows

naive pendant
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whatever i’ll just run at 3400 for now

hollow atlas
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How do I setup my new motherboard

fleet inlet
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In your case ? On the standoffs

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Idk what you mean...

naive pendant
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is gskill ripjaw any good? it it always cheaper than everything else

weak hamlet
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Yeah it is decent.

simple ore
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Having similar issues. Xmp profile will not post. Getting screen crashes at 3200 so I have it down clocked to 3066. Any help. Gigabyte B450 Aurorus pro wifi bios f50

sonic ocean
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I'm having trouble choosing a new CPU but I've narrowed down my list.
Ryzen 5 2600
Ryzen 5 2600x
Ryzen 7 2700

Out of those three which should I go with for a budget gaming/Daily use desktop

elfin warren
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2600x

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or 2600

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2600 actually

sonic ocean
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Why the 2600 out of those three? @elfin warren

elfin warren
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Because bang for the buck it's a really good deal

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It's what, $119 right now?

sonic ocean
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Give or take. And I was recommended the MSI B450 tomahawk max as the motherboard to go with the processor.

elfin warren
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Indeed

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Fine choice

gritty meadow
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@sonic ocean lets ask the other way around: Are you doing a full build?

heady iron
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question for you smart people

sonic ocean
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@gritty meadow Just upgrading my Cpu,mobo and ram.

gritty meadow
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for the sake of helping you to the best of our capacity, could you list the parts you have ended up with?

heady iron
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so i have a i7-7700 3.6ghz
can't overclock why is it running @ 4.0?

fathom tulip
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Do I need a sound card or is my mobos hd audio enough

gritty meadow
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@fathom tulip depends on your ears and your speakers/headphones

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@heady iron look up boost clock :)

heady iron
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oh so it does have a stock boost lol im new to this pc thing don't know nothing

fathom tulip
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If I just have steelseries arctis 7 will I need one

gritty meadow
heady iron
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stock cooler it runs hot while at least while im playing modern warfare

gritty meadow
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@fathom tulip if memory serves, that one has its own soundcard.

fathom tulip
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?

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Oh, so I'm good

gritty meadow
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yes

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you should be, but let me just double check if my memory is right or not :)

fathom tulip
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I'm small brain

sonic ocean
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Intel I5 2400
Generic MATX motherboard
Generic 12GB of DDR3 memory
Nvidia GTX 1050TI
EVGA 550 B3 80+ Bronze
PHANTEKS P300
That should be the basics of my build minus the fans and small stuff like that

gritty meadow
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@fathom tulip you should be good to go :)

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@heady iron the stock cooler for the 7700 is not exactly fantastic.

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@sonic ocean and you are looking to go to the 2600 series, with the b450 tomahawk and what ram kit?

sonic ocean
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@gritty meadow Yeah I was planning to go with the Ryzen 5 2600, B450 Tomahawk Max, and Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb 3000mhz

gritty meadow
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sounds reasonable :)

elfin warren
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go 3200 if you can

gritty meadow
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(sorry for making you jump the hoops of posting all that. Experience just tells me that it can benefit you the user if i make you post it)

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cheers for having your eyes open @elfin warren i missed that

sonic ocean
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Yeah I can go 3200, I I frankensteined the parts from an old Dell multiplex system and am just gonna upgrade it to handle what I need. I just wanted to make sure I was on the right path for upgrading and picking parts.

gritty meadow
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you are :)

sonic ocean
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Thanks for the help @gritty meadow @elfin warren

elfin warren
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Welcome!

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The 3000 mhz will work if it's what you have on hand

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not gonna be a huge difference TBH but Ryzen likes 3200 CL16

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome, best of luck with the build @sonic ocean

sonic ocean
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Gotcha, I havent bought anything as of right now. Just wanted to verify I was picking all the right parts before buying.

elfin warren
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Ah yeah

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If you're buying new 3200 CL16 then

hollow thorn
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G.skill ripjaw

elfin warren
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That's what I have

fathom tulip
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Also @gritty meadow would I plug in to the headphone I/O port and the sound and audio from my headphones will work

elfin warren
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Arctic 7 uses a USB port

fathom tulip
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For wired mode

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I meany

elfin warren
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It looks like it but that only works with the headset powered off

gritty meadow
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the wireless unit has the soundcard built-in @fathom tulip

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the mini-jack is for non-usb devices (phone/switch etc)

main steppe
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is it better to wipe your hdd when you change your mobo?

gritty meadow
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was it you that asked about that yesterday @main steppe ?

main steppe
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yeah but idk if it is better to wipe it of just keep it as is

gritty meadow
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the answer is the same as yesterday

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you dont have to wipe it, but it is generally recommended that you do a fresh OS install when changing a major component (which a mainboard is considered)

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and for the sake of simplicity, doing a fresh OS install is generally done with a wipe of the drive/partition :)

main steppe
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ok so before removing my old mobo i should to the whole wipe to the hd?

gritty meadow
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if you only have that single drive.

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it will be slightly tricky to do

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so just wait until you do the OS install

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and remember, backup your stuff first.

naive pendant
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anybody else have any ideas on how to get my pc to boot with my ram at 3600

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xmp profiles won’t work

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it still doesn’t boot

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and i’ve raised voltage

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nothing

elfin warren
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What ram?

naive pendant
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it’s corsair vengeance 3600

hollow thorn
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Rgb if I recall

elfin warren
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Updated BIOS?

naive pendant
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i haven’t updated bios yet

long geyser
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which CPU and mobo?

naive pendant
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was gonna try that

elfin warren
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Do it

naive pendant
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3600x and prime x570 p

hollow thorn
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The xmp profile wouldn't work, and the xmp profile put it at like 3596

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Not the full 3600

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Update bios might fix it tho

elfin warren
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3596 is 3600.........

naive pendant
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aight i’ll try it after this game

hollow thorn
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🤷‍♂️

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Mine pops up as 3600 idrk tho

naive pendant
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what should the bios update have??? its just a zip file with a com file in it

hollow thorn
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Refer to your mobo manual

naive pendant
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aight

hollow thorn
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God damn my mobo manual is 110 pages

naive pendant
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nope

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bios update didn’t fix@it

elfin warren
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Honestly

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3596 = 3600

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Srsly

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Not joking

hollow thorn
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I mean I like rounding so it looked a bit off for me

elfin warren
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that's OK, it's wonky sometimes

naive pendant
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i mean if i keep running at 3400 i can probably lower the timings a bit right??

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let’s try it

elfin warren
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wut

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I thought it was 3596

naive pendant
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it won’t boot at 3600

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but works at 3400

elfin warren
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XMP 3596?

naive pendant
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the xmp shows 3597

elfin warren
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Then use that

naive pendant
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but it won’t boot

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even with xmp it won’t work

elfin warren
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Have you reset the CMOS and ONLY changed the XMP?

naive pendant
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wdym

elfin warren
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Reset the BIOS. ONLY change the XMP setting. Sounds like other things are changed in addition to that

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?

naive pendant
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doesn’t work man

gritty meadow
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basically, enter the bios, load defaults. save and exit.

naive pendant
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yeah that’s what i did

gritty meadow
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re-enter bios, change XMP and only that.

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remember, we cannot read your mind @naive pendant :)

naive pendant
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i know??

gritty meadow
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so we have to ask about things that might seem silly or obvious to you.

naive pendant
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i didn’t try doing that though

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setting to defaults and then going in again and setting xmp

gritty meadow
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you are contradicting yourself right now.

naive pendant
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i just did it together

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and yeah that didn’t work

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huh

gritty meadow
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do what Bekora and myself said above.

naive pendant
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resetting the bios, then only changing xmp??

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i just tried and it didn’t work

gritty meadow
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basically, enter the bios, load defaults. save and exit, re-enter bios, change XMP and only that.

naive pendant
#

yeah i just tried

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still won’t boot

elfin warren
#

Exact RAM model and MOtherboard model?

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And CPU?

naive pendant
#

i’ll send links one sec

gritty meadow
#

just give names instead.

naive pendant
#

aight

gritty meadow
#

exact names that is.

naive pendant
#

corsair vengeance rgb pro 3600
r5 3600x
asus prime x570 p

gritty meadow
#

what exact model number on those ram?

naive pendant
#

CMW16GX4M2D3600C18

gritty meadow
#

it certainly isnt on the QVL

naive pendant
#

it’s all good, i set it to 3400 16-18-18-38 and it booted fine

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i think i’ll stick with that rather than tryna bother booting to 3600

gritty meadow
#

that is your call.

naive pendant
#

well i cant get it to work at 3600 18-22-22-42

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so this works

simple ore
somber trench
#

@elfin warren @gritty meadow any suggestion on a mATX mobo to go with 2700x, using parts from currently build, MSI 1660 super, 4x4GB G.Skill 3200 RAM, also open to an ITX mobo if its the better option, thanks. was hoping to us a MSI B450M Mortar Max but can't find it.

gritty meadow
#

itx would remove 8 gigs of ram from your current pool.

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@somber trench any plans to OC etc?

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any other requirements?

somber trench
#

not really looking to OC

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don't mind buying new ram

elfin warren
#

Not necessarily from Best Buy but the Tomahawk is a proven board

gritty meadow
#

that is atx

elfin warren
#

Or the ASRock B450 steel legend MATX

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bah

#

hang on

somber trench
#

@elfin warren thanks, any thoughts on B450M Bazooka V2?

elfin warren
#

HA!

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was just looking at that on Newegg

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no joke

somber trench
#

from what i've read not great for OCing but don't plan to do that, another option i was told about was B450M PRO-VDH Max

elfin warren
#

Don't see anything wrong with it

long geyser
#

Bazooka V2 is meh

elfin warren
#

With the bazooka

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I don't see the premium over the other one though

long geyser
#

lacks fan headers, audio ports, RGB headers, etc over other competitors like the Steel Legend

gritty meadow
#

steel legend has the same realtek chip as the others. (ALC892)

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it has 2 fewer usb ports

long geyser
#

same chip, but 3 port vs 5 port (I think, maybe 6 port)

gritty meadow
#

5+optical.

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what the steel legend has as a worth while upgrade (imo) is a second m.2 port

somber trench
#

it seems like mATX doesn't get much love 🙂 not too many options anymore

gritty meadow
#

so long story short jSully is that there are plenty of options :)

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well, 450 as a platform is not exactly the "new" one :)

somber trench
#

x570 is the new one right?

gritty meadow
#

yes, the equivalent to the 450 is not on the market yet

#

x570 is replacement for the x470

#

and yes, a lot of boards are either atx or itx

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currently m-atx is "stuck" on b450 as the platform

long geyser
#

isnt the other M2 SATA only tho?

gritty meadow
#

on steel? yes.

long geyser
#

so ATX got both PCIe I guess

somber trench
#

Last question then i wont bug you guys anymore 🙂 was readying that Ryzen 4000 series is expected in 2020, does it make sense to just wait for that to launch and get a 3000 chip instead of the 2700x?

long geyser
#

"Are you happy with what you have now? If not then are you going to be happy with what you're buying? If so then buy it"
Generally a quote used by many youtubers

somber trench
#

i happy with everything but CPU i5 6500, but also it's getting by just fine for now, but if i try to stream doesn't work well

gritty meadow
#

the rumour/info about 4000 series will potentially be verified in 2 weeks time at CES 2020. So, if you can wait to purchase anything, i would advice you to check back in with us after CES :)

#

@somber trench

somber trench
#

Thanks @gritty meadow i can wait, not a big deal.

gritty meadow
#

you are very welcome :)

sharp blaze
#

Ya I have decided my 2700x will last me until the 4000 cpus come out

versed apex
#

Anyone know how to fix a weird audio issue I have? My audio crackles, almost sounds like a loose connection which I have checked and verified that that is not the issue. I have done a bios update, chipset drivers update, graphics drivers update to no avail. The issue only happens when playing a game. I just upgraded from fx on boxing day and was very happy with the performance increase but then got extremely bummed that I can't enjoy the performance due to the audio.

naive pendant
#

Set the sample rate to 44.1, or 48khz 16 bit. Both in/output.

versed apex
#

Tried that

naive pendant
#

Ah, maybe it's a hardware acceleration setting on in discord, chrome etc that's causing problems?

versed apex
#

I think the issue is hardware related. Before I upgraded I had 0 issues but as soon as I put the new parts together I got this issue

#

In the morning I'll run latencymon to see what it says

grim grove
#

i have 16gb ddr4 ram xmp enabled to 2700mhz. now if i upgrade to 32gb as i have 2 more slots left will i stay on the same xmp profile or will my xmp profile be# updated to a higher mhz

elfin warren
#

It will only be as fast as your fastest ram

grim grove
#

does another 16gb ram improve fps/preformance ingame? @elfin warren

elfin warren
#

Depends. Is your system using all the ram it has now?

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Typically quantity does not but ram speed does.

#

FPS is determined by CPU/GPU mostly

grim grove
#

aah alright

#

I upgraded from a i7-3770 and 16gb ddr3 ram to i7-6700k (overclocked to 4.2ghz) and 16gb ddr4 corsair venegance. the cpu is being cooler by a 2 fan water cooler cooler master and 2-3 more other case fan's also

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got a new motherboard also - maximus viii hero

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and upgraded to a 700w psu

#

@elfin warren

elfin warren
#

Ok, what gpu then?

grim grove
#

i still am using my 1050ti

#

thats 4gb GDDR5 i believe

#

but I am upgrading to: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Ventus XS 6GB

#

Apparently its the best GPU to increase preformance

elfin warren
#

Honestly, that upgrade was more of a lateral move

grim grove
#

Thats what I am buying ^

#

What do you mean, a lateral move?

elfin warren
#

It wasn't much of an upgrade

grim grove
#

What wasnt much of an upgrade

#

Me upgrading my GPU??

elfin warren
#

The CPU and DDR4. Same core count, slightly faster core speed, slightly faster ram

#

Did you just upgrade recently?

grim grove
#

Yes

#

But when I upgrade my GPU, it will feel more like an upgrade.

#

I had a new case and everything

elfin warren
#

GPU will help for sure

grim grove
#

Will it increase the preformance/fps of my game

elfin warren
#

It should at 1080p yes

grim grove
#

Everyone i spoke to has said yes

#

i use all low settings

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no motion blur

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no vsync

#

like do you know roughly how much more fps i will get at 1080p low settings.

#

I am currently getting 180fps all game.

#

Looking for like 200+

#

Consistent all game.

elfin warren
#

Why so high FPS?

grim grove
#

Cuz I got a 240hz monitor

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And I have spare money

elfin warren
#

K. 1660 super is almost twice the perf of the 1050ti

grim grove
#

alright perfect

#

so like double fps roughly?

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lmao

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since i wanna reach at least 240 fps

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and im getting 180 atm

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final question btw ^

elfin warren
#

hard to say, depends on the game

pliant sandal
#

Eh

#

I've never heard of a 1660s being used for 240hz

#

But yeah, depends on the game

naive pendant
#

question, how much ram does each ddr4 slot support in the prime b450m-a?

gritty meadow
#

32gigs

south walrus
#

Hey I have a ryzen 7 2700x and I plan to upgrade to third gen in the future does anyone know a good board that works for both

elfin warren
#

X570 if you're going to keep it for a while

#

Get some of that PCI-E gen 4 goodness

south walrus
#

What's the difference between these

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

What is that, VRM temps?

naive pendant
#

This is an absolute worst case thermal load with no airflow on the vrm heat sinks - but the trend is still interesting

elfin warren
#

I have the TUF Gaming Wifi myself

south walrus
#

Can y'all answer my question lol

pastel monolith
#

1 more rgb header on edge and newer bluetooth on carbon.... pretty similar though

south walrus
#

Oh okay

#

But like extreme difference?

pastel monolith
#

nope

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no extreme differences

elfin warren
#

Except for VRM temps per the above chart. I'd go ASUS according tot hat for the same money

pastel monolith
#

yeah but he asked between those two MSI boards

naive pendant
#

I didn't realize one of the boards he mentioned wasn't on that chart.

pastel monolith
#

the asrock one looks to be best bang for buck

naive pendant
#

Yet the answer is the same since you can see the gaming edge is probably best avoided even on a less power hungry chip - unless it has features, pricing, or aesthetics to justify

pastel monolith
#

I go cheap on mobos myself lol

#

money better spent on the rest of the system imo

south walrus
#

I have everything but the mobo and psu

#

And I only have like $300

pastel monolith
#

$150 PSU and $150 Mobo would be how I would look at it

elfin warren
#

Asus TUF gaming WiFi and then $100 for a PSU

pastel monolith
#

but yeah dont spend any more than $200 on the mobo

naive pendant
#

Around there - $80-120 can get a nice psu for 750w plat or something, aorus elite/pro are similar, ultra/master have better build quality+ OC features on the master

pastel monolith
#

and that tuf board does have a good price and looks good on those charts

south walrus
#

That's what I have so far

#

Minus the psu

#

So I need a mono and a psu and I have $250 on Amazon and just a little in my bank

pastel monolith
#

that PSU should be fine

south walrus
#

Or should I get a 850

pastel monolith
#

nah

south walrus
#

For upgrade stuff and overclock

elfin warren
#

750 is more than enough for even a 2080TI

south walrus
#

Okay

elfin warren
#

No need to go bigger

pastel monolith
#

agreed its plenty

south walrus
#

Okay

elfin warren
#

$188

pastel monolith
#

I like it

south walrus
#

I don't like the yellow lol it messes up my build

#

It's white black and blue

pastel monolith
#

its pretty low key on the yellow

south walrus
#

Still

elfin warren
#

Lemme get you a shot of one in a case

#

You literally can't see yellow

south walrus
#

And is there a good psu on Amazon

versed apex
#

my b450 board actually has pcie gen 4

elfin warren
#

Don't mind the dust.......... 😉

south walrus
#

I know but what's the difference from that and the gaming edge one

versed apex
south walrus
#

@elfin warren cuz I like the look of the carbon one better and the ports seem nicer

elfin warren
#

VRM temps

pastel monolith
#

better vrm temps

south walrus
#

Oh

#

Hmm

pastel monolith
#

you could paint those couple yellow things blue 😉

elfin warren
#

Lemme look for a mobo....

pastel monolith
#

can even hit with a blue sharpie in the mean time

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

There's this one

south walrus
#

Sorry I don't understand communist temperature

pastel monolith
#

this one looks cool and blue

south walrus
#

OOO

pastel monolith
#

$230 though 😦

south walrus
#

Can I have the link haha

gritty meadow
#

@versed apex my b450 board actually has pcie gen 4 <- that was patched out iirc.

pastel monolith
naive pendant
#

TBH - vrm is likely fine regardless - nothing wrong with choosing the aesthetic option

elfin warren
#

That ASRock is a good board too

pastel monolith
#

yeah I mean mine fails everyone of those charts and yet I sit at 5.3ghz stable on all cores.... so it is what it is

south walrus
#

Hmm

#

Okay

pastel monolith
#

8700k though not an amd dont take yours up there lol

elfin warren
#

Uh

#

Those are AMD boards

#

NOt Intel

gritty meadow
#

then it cannot "fail everyone of those charts" @pastel monolith [edit moved "]

south walrus
#

Wait so

#

750 psu is okay

elfin warren
#

Yes

south walrus
#

And

#

How much shod I spend on it

pastel monolith
#

@gritty meadow I have this board GIGABYTE Z370P D3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z370

#

its not looking good on any chart ive ever seen for its vrms

gritty meadow
#

and how are the charts you looked at, related to the amd board charts linked here?

pastel monolith
#

we were talking about vrms in general and whether it really matters that much

south walrus
elfin warren
#

Nothing wrong with the one in your PartPicker?

south walrus
#

But it's not

#

ASTETIC

pastel monolith
#

nothing wrong with that one either

south walrus
#

aesthetic

#

Same word

#

This ay?

pastel monolith
#

sure I think you will be fine

quaint current
#

What cpu?

pastel monolith
#

think it was a 2600

long geyser
#

@south walrus pretty bad x570 mobo tho

#

MSI done a 💩 job on a lot of their x570 mobos

#

Comparitive to others

south walrus
#

@long geyser I had three people telling me it was good

#

What do you suggest then almighty one

long geyser
#

It's okay for what you need

#

However

#

Waste of money given competition

south walrus
#

Then what do you suggest!

long geyser
#

First off what do you need?

elfin warren
#

Eh, no one said it was good lol. You threw out everything else based on looks

south walrus
#

Ehh

#

Shhh

long geyser
#

WiFi I assume, what looks?

south walrus
#

My colors are like white blue and blue

#

And I have a ryzen 7 2700x but want to upgrade to a 3rd gen in the future

long geyser
#

Why x570 tho? Lots of older boards support 3xxx

south walrus
#

Idk! Tell me a better one then!

long geyser
#

x570 is nice for PCIe gen 4 which will be probably used by consumers like 4+ years in the future. Need that?

south walrus
#

That had all the parts I have

#

Exept the mobo and psu

long geyser
#

I'd only suggest x570 if you need the PCIe gen4 or if you're going to a 3950x. What's your current mobo?

south walrus
#

I don't have one

long geyser
#

Want RGB?

south walrus
#

Yes haha

long geyser
#

RGB LEDs on the mobo itself. Like not the actual headers (headers are easy to find, actual built in LEDs aren't so easy)

south walrus
#

Idk what that meansssss

long geyser
#

Or maybe have a mobo with RGB built into the heatsinks

south walrus
#

So like idk I like the one in the picture

#

Also id like a built in sheild

long geyser
#

So you like that one but with a shield? Also, it is sometimes cheaper to go for a non WiFi board and get a PCIe add in WiFi board. Willing to do that if that happens to be the case?

south walrus
#

Sure idk

#

As I said I have like $250 on Amazon and a little bit in my bank

long geyser
#

So also Amazon only, alright

subtle bear
#

Yo my cpu has recently been going up to 100% playing Fortnite at low and was playing at around 60% before

long geyser
south walrus
#

Hmm

#

Okay

#

Can you tell me why it's better @long geyser

azure fractal
#

@subtle bear what are your specs

subtle bear
#

I5 9400f, 8gigs of ram, 1660, 512gig m.2, and some kind of hp omen motherboard

#

@azure fractal

azure fractal
#

Can you check the physical cpu to see if it’s an i5

#

Bc my i3-8100 runs fortnite on high

#

What gigs of vram does your graphics card have also

subtle bear
#

Pretty sure it’s just an intel stock 2.9 gigahertz with the graphics card having 6 gigs of vram

azure fractal
#

Ok I have no idea

#

@elfin warren

#

I need sum help

#

Because your pc should run fortnite on Max settings

south walrus
#

@long geyser

#

Can you tell my why that ones better

long geyser
#

VRMs, LED debug screen, clear CMOS button, more PCIe 16x slots, SLI, more SATA ports, less USB 2.0 for more 3.0, has a 3.1 front panel header, fan headers are 2a instead of 1a so more fans can run off a splitter

stiff kraken
#

if my motherboard supports 3466MHz RAM but not 3600MHz, can i run 3600MHz modules at 3466MHz?

weak hamlet
#

yes @stiff kraken

#

it'll downclock to whatever the mobo can max.

stiff kraken
#

it supports 3466 and 3733 but not 3600

#

sad

naive pendant
#

Not with that attitude 🙂

weak hamlet
#

haha

#

oc the 3600 to 3733.

solar spindle
#

is the MSI prestige x570 better than the MSI godlike x570? or vice versa?

#

prestige haas more ports?

long geyser
#

@solar spindle Godlike has better memory VRMs, better SOC VRMs, bios flashback, more 16x PCIe ports, less 1x PCIe ports, same amount of SATA ports, one more M2 port, one more ethernet port, lot less USB ports,

#

built in DAC

junior dove
#

Does anyone know if there is a way to see what mobo revision Newegg is currently selling? Tyring to find an Epyc 7002 compatible mobo and I am having trouble.

static otter
#

hello im loking for good ddr4 ram from 3200mhz to 3600mhz any recomendations?

weak hamlet
#

Corsair

#

Trident Z

#

balistix

naive pendant
#

Whats the big difference besides price on the amd ryzen 7 2700 vs 3700?

#

2700 just looks like its $100 cheaper but consumes a bit more wattage

static otter
#

tnx egg but maybe a bit more specific for exampel Trident Z cuz they have lower letency or do others have the same cuz ive seen difrent informations abaut letencys and cant find the lowest letency of them all tri. z have 15 bur others have seen like 16 or 17 is it shuch a big diferenc betven them?

#

they are werydierent

#

the 3700x have beter ipc shomwhere like 15% and beter boost clock and beter ram memory suport but if zou finde the 2700x on sale then in therms of dolor per performanc its beter

#

Life Line: Last one down and a boom boom.

ember patio
static otter
#

ARGB 4-1 Pin chek your motherboard description of it suports

#

and how many it suports

grave burrow
elfin warren
#

NVME sticker, probably removed to add a heatsink

grave burrow
#

@elfin warren that's from a RAM stick

elfin warren
#

Oh, you're right

grave burrow
#

1GB DDR2

#

It's all good lol

elfin warren
#

Wait, are those chips stuck to it or cooling pads?

grave burrow
#

Chips

elfin warren
#

I see it now

#

OOF lol

grave burrow
#

Yeah

inner oar
#

I'm wanting to go minimal on the RGB for my build, what would be good brands of RAM to go with that offer an RGB free version?

elfin warren
#

G skill

inner oar
#

So something like ripjaws?

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

I have it with the red heat spreader

inner oar
#

👍

elfin warren
#

I thikn they all make non-RGB versions though

inner oar
#

My desk doesn't have space for the computer, so it sits on the floor.

elfin warren
#

Ah

#

understood

#

I just don't like RGB lol

inner oar
#

Figure there's no need for RGB, and like you, I'm not the biggest fan of it. Don't get me wrong, it can look cool if done right, but just not my cup of tea.

elfin warren
#

Right. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean other people can't

#

I mean, my KB and Mouse light up but I have them set to red to match my case color

#

That's the extent of my RGB

inner oar
#

RGB backlight in the keyboard makes since for visibility.

elfin warren
#

Agreed

naive pendant
#

so i have my new pc fully setup with windows installed. how do i change my memory speeds

elfin warren
#

BIOS

naive pendant
#

so just open the bios when i start my computer?

elfin warren
#

Well, what are you trying to change?

#

Is it running slower than advertised and you want to use XMP?

naive pendant
#

it is 3600 speed but is 2166 by default so i want to use xmp

elfin warren
#

Yes, in the BIOS

#

If this is an AMD board it may be called DOCP

naive pendant
#

nah its intel
thank you

elfin warren
#

Welcome!

naive pendant
#

it worked

crude path
#

I did that and it kept blue screening

elfin warren
#

Did what?

crude path
#

Docp to make my ram go to what it’s advertised at

elfin warren
#

What RAM?

crude path
#

Balistix 8gb ddr4 3200

#

1 stick

elfin warren
#

Crucial? Now that's honestly surprising as well

#

BIOS up to date?

crude path
#

idk what you mean by crucial

#

but yes bios is up to date

elfin warren
#

Crucial Ballistix is the brand

#

Might be a bum stick, can RMA possibly?

crude path
#

uh its by micron

#

its this one

elfin warren
#

Yeahy, Crucial is the maker. micron is the maker of the individual chips

#

well

#

That's only 3000 mhz ram

#

Not 3200

crude path
#

oh woops the one i have is 3200

elfin warren
#

Ok, just checking

crude path
#

yeah i got the box right in front of me lol

#

this is the one i have https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1456775-REG/ballistix_bls8g4d32aesbk_sport_lt_8gb_single.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAiA3abwBRBqEiwAKwICA1h29ePjf8pmn0sftfsEM6C2v5ZVZ6dxjqwvM1VUyggikikp2bkZxhoCOK0QAvD_BwE

Ballistix 8GB Sport LT Series DDR4 3200 MHz SR UDIMM Memory Module...

Buy Ballistix 8GB Sport LT Series DDR4 3200 MHz SR UDIMM Memory Module (Gray) featuring 8GB Storage Capacity, 3200 MHz Clock Speed, PC4-25600, 288-Pin DIMM, 1.35V, 16-18-18 Timings, Plug-and-Play Installation. Review Ballistix LT

elfin warren
#

Oooh, interesting note there

#

XMP 2.0 systems, not XMP

#

what motherboard?

crude path
#

also i didnt set it specifically to 3200 i set it to detect and it put it there autmoatically. i did try to manually do it earlier with the same results.

also not only does it bluescreen but my bios will freeze constantly so i gotta be quick to change it back

#

PRIME b450M-A

elfin warren
#

Yeah, I would consider RMA'ing that for a new stick

crude path
#

i cant at this point really lol

#

i didnt buy it

elfin warren
#

Oh

#

well then

crude path
#

come tax return ill buy new sticks. but why am i RMAing it?

elfin warren
#

Because it won't clock to advertised speeds

#

Id' return it if possible but you can't

crude path
#

id have to get my cousin to do it and i dont think we're within the return policy date

#

i have another question for ya tho

#

Im trying to do the AMD storeMI, and its telling me that my boot disc is split between 2 drives. Theres local disc C and then system reserved, however im pretty sure system reserve is attached to a different drive because i installed windows with only one drive in place and it didnt show up til i attached the other drives.

#

how can i go about making that not a thing

#

woah wait i have system reserved F and system reserved G wtf

elfin warren
#

System reserve is for Windows 10. It's almost never on a different drive

crude path
elfin warren
#

You can find out by right clicking the drive and choosing Properties, then a hard disk, then Properties again. Click on Volume then Populate. It will tell you what partitions are on what drives

#

If your boot disc is partitioned, according to the OS it is two drives

crude path
#

okay so windows is C and F

#

and the other one is coming from my podcast drive

#

now would i need to merge C and F to make store mi work?

elfin warren
#

I'm not sure. Need to read about it becuase i have no experience there

#

Do both drives have partitions on them?

crude path
#

i believe so

#

i just got rid of one

#

not on the boot disc im trying it out with the other disk

elfin warren
#

Yeah, if there's one drive you don't care about, get rid of the partitions

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The one for WIndows contains all the boot information

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So don't touch that one

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That's what the System Reserved is

crude path
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well im hoping by getting rid of the fake system reserves that will solve my issue but if not i might have to merge F (system reserves) and C (windows) i think. or is that bad

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nope deleting the other system reserved worked! 😄

elfin warren
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nice!

crude path
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so is @dusk oracle available cause hes the one who told me about this

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im trying to figure out which should be fast tier and which should be slow tier between the SSD boot drive and HDD storage drive

dusk oracle
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Did you run it as admin?

crude path
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yeah its working

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but its asking me to choose 2 drives, which will be the SSD and HDD to merge, but one has to be fast tier and one has to be slow

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the hdd im merging has 2tb so should i set that to fast?

uncut hull
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anyone familiar with trident z rgb ram?

dusk oracle
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I would look back on the video i posted

uncut hull
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cause i just got the neo's and for some reason the software doesnt change the color of the ram but asus aura does?

dusk oracle
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cause he explains what to do in the video

crude path
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see the storemi version i have is a lot different than his

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oh ok i figured it out

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drive has combined size of 476 which is greater than 2048

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uhhhhhh no

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ok i figured out the problem. my ssd is to big lol

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ill have to buy a smaller one later

elfin warren
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Huh

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that's interesting

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Why are you trying to do this anyway if you already have an SSD?

uncut hull
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anyone familiar with ram and its timings?

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and whats a good mhz for a certain cpu

elfin warren
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What CPU?

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@uncut hull

uncut hull
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ryzen 3 1200

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i have the gskill neo 3600mhz

elfin warren
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Oh wow, that's a little overkill

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But yeah

uncut hull
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will it run well with a cas latency of 18 also will it slow things down because it is running so fast? and i got it because i am going to upgrade later

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@elfin warren

elfin warren
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Yes, it will run at slower timings

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but according to what I see it's CL14 ram

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It's not going to slow things down

uncut hull
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so running it at 3600mhz wont slow like "bottleneck" anything since it is such a slower cpu?

elfin warren
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let me check CPU specs

uncut hull
elfin warren
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Ah, that's CL 18 ram then yes

stiff kraken
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anyone know if MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX supports MSI mystic light? google has mixed answers

elfin warren
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No, it's not going to slow anything down

uncut hull
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well i heard the ram is as fast as a cas 16 3200

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also idk why gskill rgb software cant change the color of the ram?

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i have to use asus aura

elfin warren
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RIght

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because it's dependent on your motherboard software

uncut hull
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well i have a msi b350 pc mate but even msi mystic light doesnt find it only asus aura does for some reason

elfin warren
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Oh now that's interesting

uncut hull
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yeah it only shows my mobo audio lights in the software for some reason

stiff kraken
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product pages on retailers say it supports MSI mystic light but MSI page itself doesn't

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i'm confused

elfin warren
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Well, if you have multiple RGB software installed, that can cause issues

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SHould only have one at a time

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I would use Revo Uninstaller to nuke them all and start again with Mystic Light only

uncut hull
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yeah i uninstalled them all installed gskill and still nothing so idk

elfin warren
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Gotta use something like Revo Uninstaller

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Regular uninstaller leaves behind bits and pieces that can conflict

true wadi
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Guys, I just bought and put together a ryzen 7 3700X system with an Aorus x570 elite mother board and trydent-z neo 3600 ram

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but after putting it all together I get no post

elfin warren
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B450 Gaming Plus Max doesn't have RGB?

true wadi
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is it possible that my ram being 3600mhz is causing this?

stiff kraken
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that's what i'm trying to figure out

elfin warren
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Your motherboard doesn't have RGB

stiff kraken
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amazon says it supports mystic light

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msi says it doesn't

elfin warren
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Well, it doesn't have RGB so I'd go with no

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@true wadi no

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But having it in the wrong slots might

stiff kraken
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any recommendations for a similar motherboard that supports mystic light?

elfin warren
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B450 Tomahawk

true wadi
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u.u

elfin warren
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3600mhz is the proper ram speed for that processor

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That motherboard should also have POST lights, anything lit up?

true wadi
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I have no clue what the issue is then

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everything turns on

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and my graphics card works in my other pc

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so it's not the issue

elfin warren
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No diagnostic lights lit?

true wadi
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noup

stiff kraken
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hmm it's $15 more expensive

elfin warren
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Different output on the GPU to try?

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some are picky which you use

true wadi
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I tried HDM

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and display port

elfin warren
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ALl fans are spinning, all lights are on, no diagnostic lights?

true wadi
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yeah

elfin warren
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Reset the CMOS and try again?

true wadi
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CMOS?

elfin warren
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BIOS

true wadi
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oh

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yeah

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I tried

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by pressing the button

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but still no post

elfin warren
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Tried with just one stick of ram?

true wadi
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yeah

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and in every slot

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both ram sticks

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I'll just take it to a technician tomorrow I guess

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u.u

elfin warren
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Sounds like a video out put issue

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How long do you wait?

true wadi
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2-3 mins?

elfin warren
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All power is plugged in?

true wadi
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yeah

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8 pin and 24 pin in the MOBO

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all fans and GPU turns on

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just no post

elfin warren
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Tried a different GPU slot?

true wadi
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yeah

elfin warren
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Well, if no diagnostic lights are on

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odds are it's posting

true wadi
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16 and 4x

elfin warren
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you cjust can't see it

true wadi
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I'll keep trying

elfin warren
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I'm reading your manual now

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Wait, your clear CMOS isn't a button

true wadi
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it has a butto

elfin warren
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That's to flash the BIOS

true wadi
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for bios update

elfin warren
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QFLASH

true wadi
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OH

elfin warren
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CMOS reset is a pair of pins

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Or remove the battery

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Unplug from the wall and reset the CMOS

true wadi
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ok

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I'll try that

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just remove the battery?

elfin warren
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ye

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for a minute or two

true wadi
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kk

stiff kraken
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okay, i cancelled my order for the B450 GAMING PLUS MAX and ordered a B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

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thanks

elfin warren
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YW, that one has RGB and will work with Mystic light

oak sand
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Are all MOBOs iCue compatible?

stiff kraken
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im not a huge huge fan of rgb like must have it, but i found some fantastic sales on some things that happened to have rgb so i might as well actually be able to use them properly

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+$15 is ok

oak sand
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@stiff kraken I agree

stiff kraken
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too bad it pushes my total build price above $1000

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i was sitting at $995

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now $1010

elfin warren
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I mean, the RGB is only on the edge anwyway

stiff kraken
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oh no i mean other components with rgb

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that i want to be able to control

elfin warren
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ah

stiff kraken
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from what ive seen the actual built in rgb on the tomahawk max is pretty unimpressive

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but hey.. it's there lol

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OLOy WarHawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 was on sale for $68

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and i got a corsair strafe rgb keyboard for $54

elfin warren
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Yeah, I see you need the RGB headers mnore than anything else

stiff kraken
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if i have RGB stuff then i might as well put it to proper use

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im impressed that amazon could cancel an order that was arriving in 28 hours

uncut hull
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@elfin warren thanks for the advice ill have to try sometime

crude path
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@elfin warren my ssd is 500 gb but my hard drive is 2tb and I can give my hard drive ssd speed without buying an ssd

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I can do it with my ssd but I have to partition it off into sections where the boot is no larger than like 250gb

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I’m going to try that tomorrow

versed coral
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I have a 7700k atm, looking to upgrade over time. if i upgrade the mobo can i get a 7900k later with out fitment issues?

elfin warren
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Not much of an upgrade there

versed coral
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I know

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i just dont have the budget to go new mobo and cpu atm

elfin warren
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Well, what I meant was that the processor isn't worth the upgrade

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AFAIk, the 7900k will work in the same mobo as the 7900k

versed coral
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do you have any insight on if the 10th gen will remain the same socket?

elfin warren
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Supposedly a new LGA1200 socket

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Buuuutttt

versed coral
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RIP

elfin warren
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those are leaks/assumptions

versed coral
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my problem is the mobo i have now is the main thing holding back my PC

elfin warren
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Why>?

gritty meadow
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this is a new reason. Do tell us more :)

fossil bridge
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^

sharp blaze
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7700k was the last cpu official supported on the first gen 1151 boards. there is no upgrade path beyond that without some hacks and trickery

versed coral
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im mobo was abused before i got it

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parts are starting to fall off

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but hey I cost me $20 to get going

sharp blaze
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your 7700k also will not work on any motherboard that supports a newer cpu

versed coral
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so i cant get something like a new x570 board and put the 7700k on it?

sharp blaze
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x570 is amd

versed coral
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oh

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my b

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i was looking at AMD side earlier

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since performance equality and cheaper