#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 84

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:19 AM

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I have talked myself out of buying an expensive z390 board hundreds of times lol

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:20 AM

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https://valid.x86.fr/2p850q

Intel Core i7 9700K @ 5000 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[2p850q] Validated Dump by testboi111 (2019-06-02 23:30:14) - MB: Asus ROG MAXIMUS X APEX - RAM: 16384 MB

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No memory oc on that one, but 4133c17 easy

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:22 AM

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is that a z270?

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bios flash magics

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:24 AM

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ya, it's easy enough these days because of the community contributions, tools, guides etc that I don't heasitate as much recommending it as a side option to z390 etc

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:24 AM

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thats awesome

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:29 AM

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$2400+ in GPU's , why not go x299?

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Better time than ever

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:31 AM

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I hate x299 boards

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those stupid bristles on the motherboard

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Hey guys, I could use some tech advice

urban ferry Dec 7, 2019, 3:44 AM

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ask away

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I bought a new MB from Asrock for an eventual Ryzen 9 upgrade, but I have a Gigabyte board atm.

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if I swap the boards out, will there be any issues with the bios or anything I should know ahead of time?

waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:47 AM

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there shouldn't be though you may have some off the old drivers still on your drives

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Oh okay,

waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:47 AM

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you may want to make sure that the motherboard is set up with the bios for the generation off ryzen that you get

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:48 AM

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it should be fine since I have a R5 2600X atm

waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yea you should be good

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iis the ryzen 9 2nd or 3rd gen?

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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3rd gen. I wanted to get a nicer looking board

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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2nd

waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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ok

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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that's a bit odd to call it 2nd gen

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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sorry saw the other one and just jumped in with wrong answers ignore me

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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ah lol it's fine

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hol up a sec and I'll get pics

waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:50 AM

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ok

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this may be off use to you

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regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:55 AM

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eh good enough. My current board is a Gigabyte Aurous X470. It was giving me some issues.

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waxen gate Dec 7, 2019, 3:56 AM

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fair

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 3:59 AM

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and my upgrade is a Asrock X570 Extreme

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pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:01 AM

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the red dragon logo does look cool dont tell @hoary valve I said that though

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:01 AM

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powercolor makes some good cards

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:01 AM

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ngl a small part of my decision was because the board matches my case XD.
but from the reviews I've seen it's a good board

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Yeah they've left a strong first impression on me

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If I ever upgrade my GPU, it'll probably be their 5700X Red Devil

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:02 AM

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good choice

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that or the sapphire nitro+ are the best two 5700xt's

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personally I'm running a sapphire pulse rx 5700 atm

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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yeah that's a good option too

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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both top tier manufacturers

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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oh really? How's that going?

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Cool and quiet

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does my VR just fine

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a bit worried it might not keep up for half life alyx though

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but I'll just lower settings if it doesn't

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I am excited about that

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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It should be fine

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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well above minspec

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I checked the specs and it recommended a 1070 equivilent

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and a 5700 outperforms a 1070

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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yeah, 1060/rx 580 are minspec

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I thought it was a 970.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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If its even close to as good as lone echo it will be awesome

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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for half life alyx

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specifically

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:05 AM

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ah guess I missread

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:05 AM

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970 is like a 1060 3gb

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:06 AM

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ah Visi was right

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I did indeed misread it

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just checked

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OOOOOOOOOO

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I just remembered Halo Reach is out

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:08 AM

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oh has it been 10 years already lol

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:08 AM

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HAH

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But ngl I've been really excited for the port

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I'm waiting for the remake of final fantasy VII to hit the consoles so that someday they will release it on the pc so I cant fault you

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Honestly it's likely. They did port 15 and other than the benchmark controversy it's doing well.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:10 AM

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oh they will in like 5 years

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:11 AM

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~~FFXIV~~

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honestly like every final fantasy game is on PC so

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:11 AM

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lol I'll give it 2 after the game releases

hoary valve Dec 7, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was even before that

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:11 AM

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yeah I mean it was barely a year for 15.

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ngl though I'm procrastinating putting my new board in XD

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Because it's gonna be such a royal pain to unplug everything and put in the CPU

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and remount the Liquid cooler

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and everything else

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:13 AM

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custom loop or aio?

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:13 AM

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aio

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:13 AM

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well thats not so bad

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:13 AM

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God help the poor soul who remounts a custom loop

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I dread touching anything in my PC after the custom loop went in

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:14 AM

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ohhhhhhhhhh

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did you do hard or soft tubing?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:14 AM

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hard

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acrylic

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 4:14 AM

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nice

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one day I will swap to that

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I wish you the best of luck whenever you have to upgrade

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:15 AM

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its just a process

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:15 AM

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ngl if I did a custom loop I'd just do a soft tubing loop from Corsair's new stuff

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:16 AM

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next time I'm putting the resevoir outside the case I never move it anyway lol

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:16 AM

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I can see that working

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:17 AM

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I've only had to flush it twice but it was a pain

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:18 AM

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alright I'm gonna turn off my PC in a sec so give me a bit to go on mobile

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There we go

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Here's a gritty pic of my setup

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pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I like the blue theme headphones controller and case

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Yeah. It's almost like I lean towards a certain color for my style XD

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In all seriousness I really like blue

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Okay, so is it still relavent to post progrss pics of a MB swap or nah?

lunar coral Dec 7, 2019, 4:39 AM

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are there any rumors if the upcoming zen 3 will be compatible with X470?

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Oh Zen 3 should be since it's only a 7+nm architecture

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If anything, worst case is that it'll have an experimental bios like how x370 and b350 have it for Zen 2 atm.

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Everything's swapped onto the new board now. Now let's screw this sucker in

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Okay so this is a curious question. Should I plug in all 12 pins on my CPU connector or no for my 2600x? Like will it be bad for it, or can I plug it in now for the eventual Ryzen 9 upgrade?

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I'll leave it unplugged for now

gritty bobcat Dec 7, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Imagine using intel

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Can't wait to give knight's landing a try

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Lol

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I'm still plugging stuff in

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I wish for the sweet release from this torment

modest citrus Dec 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Managed to get a 3900x while theyre in stock. Cant wait

daring root Dec 7, 2019, 7:47 AM

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I got a bonus at work, so I'm going on newegg to buy the Ryzen 9 3900x

modest citrus Dec 7, 2019, 7:55 AM

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weird if you look it up it say sold out. But if you click on its page it says its still in stock.

daring root Dec 7, 2019, 7:56 AM

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I have the app so it is showing in stock for me

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 7:56 AM

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IT LIVESSS

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and with no issue

long geyser Dec 7, 2019, 7:59 AM

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@regal obsidian 12 pins for CPU? Like 8 + 4 pin? That's overkill for literally any consumer CPU. A single 8 pin delivers like 280w - 300w. Even the 9900k takes 250w

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3950x takes like 180w - 200w I believe

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Odd, then why would there be an 8+4 connector in a x570?

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cuz it's there

long geyser Dec 7, 2019, 8:00 AM

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for advertising

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"Oh hey we have more power delivery and therefore are better than other boards"

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 8:01 AM

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This I literally did not see until now. I imagine there's some actual benefit to it.

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Maybe for more stable power delivery to the 3900x or 3950?

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Well I must've scrolled pass the goddamn advertising XD

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It's there in the advertising, and I've concluded that I'm as blind as a bat. I'll just leave it unplugged until I get a 3900x or 3950x.

long geyser Dec 7, 2019, 8:29 AM

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No, it literally is useless for consumer CPUs. They say it's for cleaner power but it really doesnt do anything. May do someting with LN2 OCing however... You arent doing that I assume

regal obsidian Dec 7, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Eh not on a Ryzen 5, but it does seem tempting on either a Ryzen 7 or 9

restive wedge Dec 7, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Anyone got an opinion on whether the x570 is worth the extra price for more future-proofing over the next 5 or so years compared to getting the cheaper x470?

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 12:36 PM

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more recent is usually better.

humble acorn Dec 7, 2019, 12:40 PM

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I upgraded to a 3700x and went with a X470 board, currently there isn't much reason to need an x570 board unless you wanna be on the bleeding edge of NVMe speeds. An X470 will easily last you if you wanna skip a few generation between upgrades

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But if you are gonna do year over year upgrades better to get an X570 probably

safe gale Dec 7, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Can anyone please tell me which TPM modules are better? I need to install them on two separate motherboards but I'm not sure which ones are better.

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Am I better off buying the same brand as my mobo?

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Anyone know why I'm not able to restart into flash mode? Trying to update bios on b350m bazooka but it's not cooperating.

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I just get black monitor with blinking power light like no signal.

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Is a Ryzen 7 3700X able to handle an RX 5700XT?

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 2:52 PM

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5700XT?

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:53 PM

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yah

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wait i messed up lmao

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@weak hamlet

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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of course it can handle it 🙂

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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yes

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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3700x is a beast

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could pair 2080ti with it

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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the ryzen 5 3600 can

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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can i oc the 3700x?

weak hamlet Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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if you have proper cooling sure

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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exactly

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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ohk

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my coolings good

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h100i from Corsair

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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finally someone who has the passion for AMD like i do

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 PM

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y e s

lunar jungle Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 PM

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box loves AMD

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I do too.

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 PM

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AMD is the new intel but good

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 PM

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yah

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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more performance at less than half the price

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I love AMD, Nice and affordable with nice beefy processors and GPUs

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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as long as you know what you're getting lol mine's being a pain

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Same...

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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that is why intel will cease to exist at the very most 50 years but i think in 30

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:57 PM

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'wHat wE dId aT inteL iS mAde tHe cPus wOrse tHaN lAst gEn aNd uPped tHe prIce'

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Sometimes my monitors do not cut on with the PC and do not detect a display.

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I'm not sure what that is

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After a few minutes it comes back on, but still.

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i think im fine with corsair vengeance 3600 MHZ

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:58 PM

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i mean come intel gpu's only have on advantage which is hiring someone who worked on radeon gpu's

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:59 PM

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LMAO

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 2:59 PM

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corsair is one of my more preferred brands... if i had the money

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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trying to upgrade to 3200 ram on mine, but it's not going well XD

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is what you get for budget

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i still game on an rx 570

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Oof

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?

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'INTEL HD GRAPHICS IS SUPERIOR'
-56 year old neckbeard

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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but will soon upgrade to an rx 5700xt

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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@sturdy lion get a sapphire one

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or power colour

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sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:01 PM

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getting a power color one cause it's hecka beefy

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:01 PM

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wish I could afford that upgrade atm, but rx580 is good for what I tend to play

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it's my 8gb of ram that's killing me

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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ironic how the T H I C C one is the worst

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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i can barely afford that's why i'm still saving

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Should have made it dummy thicc

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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lol yes

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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**EXTRA *T H I C C* **

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lmao

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Is there a such thing as To much RAM?

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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to be honest though i wish i could something from team green (nvidia)

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no

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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what are u using ur rig for

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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16 min

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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there is overkill

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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8 sideways max

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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lmao

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why the bump

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WTF ASUS AND AMD

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I HAVE OCD

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I'm trying to up mine to 16gb 3200 for the 2nd time, but ryzen 5 1400 and b350m bazooka seem to be a picky pair

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:05 PM

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pc building simulator is a game i recommend build powerful pc's and don't go broke

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:06 PM

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try to get a 3600 ram

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sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:06 PM

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3rd gen ryzen update just came out for it

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:06 PM

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i don't have a build im going to build

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Video Editing/Gaming is what its used for.

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Well rendering too

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I can't go that high on mine...there's only a few that can go over 3200 for me on the MSI compatibility list

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:07 PM

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try to get 8 or 16 more gigs

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I bought some this past weekend that is compatible, but it doesn't boot with it

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so I'm trying to update bios, but the mobo won't restart into flash mode

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:07 PM

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How much RAM can it take?

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Its a 64 bit board.

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:08 PM

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I think 32

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:09 PM

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32 is great for video editing

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Okay so two more 8 sticks

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yah

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Ty

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i mean im not the best with pcs

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:10 PM

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ALL THE STIX

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🤣🤣🤣

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:10 PM

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compare my knowledge with other people's

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:10 PM

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my build's an asrock b450m pro4f ryzen 3600 with stock cooler from 2700x an rx 570 armor edition asus tuf alliance silverstone 750w psu 2 dollar wireless adapter adata 118 gb ssd seasonic 3tb hdd and some cooler master fans plus 16gb of 3000hz chinese ram

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:10 PM

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how much thermal paste do i need for an amd cpu

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:10 PM

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oh sorry, yours can do 64gb

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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because all the videos ive seen use intel

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This is all goid information to me I just kinda slapped whatever I could afford in a pre built computer... I essentially rebuilt a pre built rig ...

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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like a grain rice but if it was kind of like super rice

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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ohk

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ill just the verge it

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jk

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no

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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which is still pretty small amount

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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i wont verge it

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lmao

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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like a pinkie tip

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I need to just buy new cpu and mobo

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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only half

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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ohk

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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a pinkie tip

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yah

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thx

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:13 PM

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one more time half a pinkie tip

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I have 16gb of crucial vengeance lpx 3200 and g skill ripjaw V 3200, and neither work with this pair

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Pea size

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Like ya making some tiny thermal pea soup

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Is the soup Extra Thicc?

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Never mix Ram 🙈

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Too much thermal paste makes real bad soup

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We don’t want wasabi

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We want nice soup

sturdy lion Dec 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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well it's time for me to game so seeya

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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bai

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Baibtch

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:17 PM

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yeah I'm not mixing, I just have 2 different 2x8's that I tried to get to work

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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If you put them in the microwave for 30 seconds it helps

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I've heard

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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If that doesn’t work bake them at 425 degrees for 25 minutes

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Let cool to 125 degrees then install

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Always works like a charm

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:20 PM

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salt?

clever magnet Dec 7, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Season to taste

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I usually do salt, pepper with a little onion powder

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Some like it extra salty tho

north steppe Dec 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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oh well, I give up for today, need sleep

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followed all directions for updating bios, and there's no issue in the process. it just won't restart into flash mode for me to actually update it

hidden drum Dec 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Got a question. A friend a of mine wants to stream, do vr, and game. Should I go with a 9700 or 3700x

quaint current Dec 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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If going 9700 get the overclockable 9700k

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Excess thermal paste only causes mess if it's non conductive and non capacitive. An x with dots or two lines down the center are my preference for ryzen, Intel respectively

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:09 PM

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And dont add paste if there is already paste on the AIO/Fan already 😉

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:50 PM

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so i got ddr3 mobo and a e5 1650 v2 and i wanna upgrade to a mobo with a am4 socket and cheap but good mobos than i should get?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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an e5 1650 v2 is a nice little cpu

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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yea but i dont want ddr3 ram and my motherboard isnt a consumer one its a server motherobard that can hold up to 128gb of ram

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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what AMD cpu are you thinking

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Budget?, expected usecase?

valid karma Dec 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Best Mobo for an i7?

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On a budget

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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same question as the one i asked above @valid karma

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@valid karma what i7?

valid karma Dec 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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9700k

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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any specific requirements in regards to ports etc?

valid karma Dec 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Just normal good overclocking support m.2 NVMe

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:55 PM

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@pastel monolith im thinking of getting the ryzen 3200g

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ryzen 3

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@valid karma Gigabyte z390 UD is a good board for not much

valid karma Dec 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Cheers

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@twilit iris that is a ryzen 2 cpu. (yes, i know, the model number is in the 3000 series. it is however a zen+ cpu in there)

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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@twilit iris and for you I like the Asus x570 Tuf gaming

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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jeez that mobo is expensive

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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@twilit iris /what budget are you on?

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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im in canadian dollars btw and not looking to spend for than 300-400 dollars on cpu mobo and ram

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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you already got a GPU or is it on purpose that you are going for the APU series?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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MSI b450 tomahawk is on sale at the moment and its a decent board

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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naedd i got a gtx 980 rn

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and its working fine for me

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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then i would recommend that you skip out on getting any of the xxxxG cpu's

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you would be paying for a GPU on the cpu that you wont be using :)

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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true

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any other cpus i should get?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:00 PM

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maybe like a 3600

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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well, if you had looked at a 3200G and the performance levels seemed fine for you. Then there is the option of going with something from the lower end of the 2000 stack

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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what about a ryzen 5 2600

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what about a ryzen 5 2600

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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well, if you had looked at a 3200G and the performance levels seemed fine for you. Then there is the option of going with something from the lower end of the 2000 stack

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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that one is pretty expensive aswell

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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let us look at what you potentially actually want.

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How much ram would you like?

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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16gb i already got the one i want

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or the ones i do want

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i mean i found the ones i want not got them

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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And considering you listed a budget with ram included, could you list the price of the modules?

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so that we can take that into account when talking about it :)

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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they were 80 bucks i believe

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80-90

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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ok

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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forgot it was Canadian

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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so there is 220-320 left in the budget for a cpu+mobo

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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I say go as low on the motherboard as you can getting the features you need and spend most on the cpu

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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3600Mhz Patriot Viper Blackout or Steel, what's better. CL17 both

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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i found these aswell Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666 MHz DDR4 DRAM

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90 bucks exactly

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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@light viper blackout appears to have better timings

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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But I already have Blackout 3000 Mhz managed to oc it to 3400 CL15

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@pastel monolith They have same timings

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@twilit iris https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/v4f66s <- this throws you middle of the budget you mentioned.

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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USA?

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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the mainboard is bottom of the barrel thou. So be warned.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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@light viper all the steels I can find are 19-21-21-41

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Naed im going to be getting everything off amazon

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since im going to be getting gifcards

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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PVS416G360C7K

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Poke / then on the current list, the mainboard would go up 15 cad. (with that in mind, let me just have a look again)

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I dont think there would be much of a difference then same manufacturer same speeds and timings

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@twilit iris i would go for the one i listed before. Because the boards that are cheaper, only have 2 ram sockets. Which might be annoying when you are doing budget builds.

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(also, you would "only" be saving 5 cad)

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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@pastel monolith Diff ram modules

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One is Hynix, other one is Nanya

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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so i should get the ones on pc part picker?

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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@twilit iris so to sum it up: Mainboard: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FWVJSHC?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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could i overclock my cpu to like 3.8?

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07B41WS48?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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that is the cpu

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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yea

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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@light viper I think those are both reputable semiconductor manufacturers and I dont think one is better than the other

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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as for OC'ing, just get the system up and running first. Then decide IF you need to OC it.

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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@pastel monolith Nanya is a ghost

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People never heard of it, just came out of nowhere with DDR4

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Legit 0 info on the internet about it

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but overclocks kinda well

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😂

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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idk i still want to get the 3200g just because its 30 dollars cheaper and i could get a better board with that money

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and its actually a little bettr

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better*

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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3200g is a zen+ core, remember

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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better?

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it is "not" better.

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it is the exact same CPU core.

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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but its still cheaper

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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only, 2 less of them.

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yes, because it is a slower model :)

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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oh

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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the 3200G is a 4 core cpu

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@light viper maybe go for Hynix then I've heard of Nanya though they are in Singapore with plants in Hong Kong and they are better than Micron

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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the 2600 is a 6 core.

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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@pastel monolith 😂 Blackout is a newer series

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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for your budget @twilit iris, the most value for money you can get, with the restrictions you have set. The 2600 is the most logical choice.

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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"Better technology"

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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alright so i should get the ryzen 5 2600, the GIGABYTE B450M DS3H and Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666 MHz DDR4 DRAM

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I wouldn't pick on memory vendor alone, if you link the sticks, I can likely give better input - e.g. Hynix cjr / Micron Rev.E both have competitive offerings in the budget/mid range. Samsung still rules high end with it's b-die.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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would be better if Samsung made the modules

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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let me add up the prices

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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cpu+mainboard = 270 + ram price

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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but im going to get this stuff on boxing day so shouldi see if this stuff reduces prices first?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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@light viper going in a ryzen pc?

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Even high bin Micron Rev.E at the 3600c16, 4000c18 XMP ratings can compete with b-die , though can't tighten tRTL/tCD or tREFI/tRFC as much

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@twilit iris realistically, any advice given (in regards to pricing) is null and void after 1 week

light viper Dec 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@pastel monolith ye

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3600

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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but its probably going to be on sale realistically

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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@twilit iris wishfull thinking does not warp reality :)

twilit iris Dec 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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well imma risk it

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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I use ballistix elite 3600 16 18 18 38 in the machine I'm typing from, but only because it was on sale at the time. 2x8 3200c14 is $115 now, but was $100 for a week/2

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Pretty sure samung makes the modules in my Trident Z's but it didnt play into my purchase choice but I have an intel lol

mild jackal Dec 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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This list sorted by lowest price ranged from Hynix CJR to low bin b-die.
The Samsung is the only IC that'll do 16 16 16 38 XMP @3600

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600006072 601203950 600528730&Order=PRICE

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This list sorted by lowest price ranged from Hynix CJR to Micron Rev.E to Samsung low bin b-die.
The Samsung is the only IC that'll do 16 16 16 38 XMP @3600

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@mild jackal you're the man thats awesome

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@twilit iris any other questions?

flat vale Dec 7, 2019, 9:41 PM

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if i were just changing motherboards, do i need to uninstall drivers from my old mobo? all the other parts are the same, i'm going from a micro atx to an atx board. (upgrading from ASUS H110M-A to an MSI Z270 Gaming Plus)

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 10:08 PM

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No but I would recommend doing a clean windows install

forest sigil Dec 8, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Regarding RAM. If I have 4 sticks of ram totalling 24gb (2 x 4gb) stock at 1600 Mhz and and (2 x 8gb) corsair ram at 1600 Mhz will I have any compatibility issues

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 1:40 AM

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most likely no

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that said RAM kits can be finicky

forest sigil Dec 8, 2019, 1:41 AM

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so as long as speed is the same i should be able to mix other brands

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 1:41 AM

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"should" yes

forest sigil Dec 8, 2019, 1:42 AM

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would you say that if i do have problems just remove the old

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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yep and just have 16gb

forest sigil Dec 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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alright

wraith karma Dec 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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opinions on ryzen 7 3700x, 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 Mhz G skill memory & X570 Aorus Pro Wifi

fair vessel Dec 8, 2019, 2:34 AM

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I have the 3700x and x570 Aorus Pro Wifi

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Processor is good

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Mobo software is pretty bad

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F10 BIOS is stable

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I tried F6b BIOS and I couldn't see drives anymore, but that's fixed now

wraith karma Dec 8, 2019, 2:37 AM

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I mean the only complaint I have is boot times

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 2:50 AM

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IT IS NOT BAD FATAL

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TAKE THAT BACK

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how long does it take you to boot up @wraith karma

wraith karma Dec 8, 2019, 2:51 AM

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full boot is like 15-12 seconds with a fast ssd

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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call me old, but 15seconds not bad versus back in the day, when it was minutes 😄

wraith karma Dec 8, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I mean Ik I used to use a I5-4470K and a really old 1TB hard drive

green mason Dec 8, 2019, 3:22 AM

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📎 SmartSelect_20191207-220954_Chrome.jpg

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Anyone know the difference between these 2 things?

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Google decided not to be super helpful

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I bought ddr4 3200 ram and I'm not really sure if it works because what it looks like to me is it's not supported and supported at the same time 😂

naive pendant Dec 8, 2019, 3:28 AM

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first time builder here, any suggestions between MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi and ASRock X570 STEEL LEGEND WIFI

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or any x570 wifi mobos

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 4:03 AM

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@green mason any ddr4 ram technically has a base clock of 2133, if it's 3200, that means it is certified to overclock to that speed. The memory will work just fine, and accoring to the motherboard, it is certified to handle memory overclock speeds of up to 3200.

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@naive pendant literally, if it's an x570 motherboard, and you aren't planning on extreme overclocking, it doesn't matter at all. Get what's cheapest or looks best to you.

naive pendant Dec 8, 2019, 4:31 AM

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ok thanks

azure fractal Dec 8, 2019, 4:19 PM

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is it normal for an i3 to be throttling when booting minecraft?

misty belfry Dec 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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CPU cooler? the default intel?

azure fractal Dec 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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the stock

misty belfry Dec 8, 2019, 4:30 PM

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it should be fine, that is a good cooler

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:30 PM

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when the last time you cleaned it

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Too be fair the new stock intel cooler they started including with the i3's isnt terrible. And its an i3....so its not getting that hot

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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what series i3 :p

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I think 8th series is when they changed the cooler

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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no I mean jacks

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@azure fractal what type of i3

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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that's why I was asking, what generation 🙂

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my daughter has the i3-6100 and that thing is a little tank

delicate bolt Dec 8, 2019, 4:34 PM

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is i3 even still a supported and produced processor?

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:34 PM

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she runs all sorts of games.

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no issues

delicate bolt Dec 8, 2019, 4:34 PM

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what gpu tho

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:34 PM

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1050ti

delicate bolt Dec 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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nice

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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sounds like my laptop...

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LOL

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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16gb 2133mhz

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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is the i3 she has 2 or 4 cores?

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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dunno

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it's been a whiile

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lol

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lemmem check my newegg history

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:36 PM

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just checked

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2c/4t

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:36 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-6th-gen-core-i3-6100/p/2MN-0004-00002?Item=2MN-0004-00002

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5 eggies

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:37 PM

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brb rating it 1 egg because its not performing well with a 2080tu

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I got it, mmsi b150m and 8gb stick of ram for 213 dollars

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:37 PM

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ti*

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:37 PM

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mind you this was back in 2016

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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i wanna put something in that case i have laying around but idk what id use it for so it would just be a waste of money angrycry

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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OH WOW

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I just found boxjrs build

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haha

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📎 unknown.png

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still uses it to this day.

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:44 PM

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what processor and gpu?

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:48 PM

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the one linds sent me

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I'm going to guess an A10

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

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nah its FX

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

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than I change my guess to a 6300

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

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8350 I think

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wrong again lol

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

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swing away merril

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

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h50 corsair aio., stays around 12-18c lol

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750ti gpu 😦

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which is more than enough for a 5 year old.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

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lol

weak hamlet Dec 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

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I have a lot of computers here.

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lolol

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one for each human.

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just realized I have 8 monitors.

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er 9, one isn't being used.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:52 PM

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not even sure how many monitors/Tv's I have there is a storage room in the basement where I shove all the stuff I dont use...

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 4:52 PM

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one for each day of the week box

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clubpenguin_dance

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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I still have some CRT monitors and tube tvs

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got a 24" CRT that weighs like 100 lbs

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and I used to bring that thing to lan parties. Dropped it and broke my toe trying to catch it once

misty belfry Dec 8, 2019, 4:59 PM

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LAN parties need to see a resurgence

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you have the friend with the biggest house host it

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 4:59 PM

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I tried to revive it in VR and attended a couple and they were neat but not the same

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The bigscreen community hosts them quite often

azure fractal Dec 8, 2019, 6:28 PM

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ok for the earlier ping i have an i3- 8100

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 6:47 PM

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it does have the updated stock fan then.

valid karma Dec 8, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Best pair for the 2070 super?

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And the best cpu to pair with 5700 xt

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:17 PM

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define best?

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I mean an 8700k would be great for both

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but a 3600 would only be $200 and not run into too many bottlenecks

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:20 PM

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8700k and the 3600 are neck and neck gaming performance wise

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same core/thread count

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just go with whichever one is cheapest

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:20 PM

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yeah but single core clock can go much higher on the 8700k like mine at 5.3ghz

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:21 PM

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thats true, but the 3600 can boost a core infinitly

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at a lower speed, but it doesnt stop boosting like intel

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:22 PM

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but if all my cores are at 5.3ghz what can it boost to max with water cooling?

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:22 PM

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depends on the die ig

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heat isnt always the overclocking ceiling

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anyway when it comes to gaming between the 8700k and the 3600, i would choose the 3600 for cost reasons

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thats it

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:23 PM

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true I mean the 8700k is going to cost almost twice as much

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thats why I recommended the 3600 😉

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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i misread lol, i though you were saying the 3600 WOULD run into too many bottlenecks

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I havent messed with them too much any big difference 3600 vs 3600x are they binned better?

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LOL no problem

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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not really

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ive heared that they dont OC very well to begin with

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I was like man hes really defensive about this I did say to get one to save money lol

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:25 PM

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both procs at stock speeds perform about the same

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basically

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:26 PM

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thats what I thought so usually dont go x unless its somehow cheaper

main pulsar Dec 8, 2019, 10:26 PM

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as far as binning goes, idk

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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@main pulsar how is the 8700k double? Maaaybe 1.5 depending on the motherboard. My 8700k and Asus tuf board were the same as my buddies 3700x and motherboard

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It's not that big of a cost difference.

urban ferry Dec 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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i have an 8700, its close

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its pretty good

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Mine works great for me

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My 2080 is usually my bottleneck. But I should have bought a 2080ti

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:40 PM

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right now 3600 is like 199 and 8700k is like 379 I think

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Hmm.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

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$354.00 is best I can find for 8700k

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granted I bought my 8700k forever ago and only paid 339.00

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Mine was from when the rtx series was released... I think it was 330$ at the time.. the ram was like 155 for 16gb kit though. It was terrible. I doubled up for 65$ a few months ago

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Asus tuf board for 130$

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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3600 is just silly cheap right now

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Ah gotcha.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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its 194.99 or something ridiculous

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I wish I had grabbed a 3900x for resale when they hit 330 last week

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It may have been the 3800x..

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I'm a bit fuzzy. I have to deal with hardware all the time. Usually a few generation old Intel stuff

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I'm not upgrading until they make something I can OC higher than what I have since I mostly game

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Same!

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I have mine at 5G all cores.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I mean I run CAD for work but I dont need any serious processing power for that lol

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5.3ghz on all cores after I delidded

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I haven't decided yet

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And my thermal compound isn't too notch, I would need to mess with my voltage before going further.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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And even if I went out and bought a 9900ks right now there is no guarantee I could get it to 5.3gz on all cores and most likely couldnt

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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My silicon lottery wasn't the best. At 5.2 it wasn't stanle

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Stable**

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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needs a delid

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mine could only do 5.0 before delid 5.3 after

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I sent it off super scary style for $50 and had it done

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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When the warranty is out I might 😁

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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it was totally worth it sent mine after my wifes got back with same results

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Did you of your ram too? Tighten up your timing?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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no i havent messed with ram timing

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have 64gb trident z rgb 4266

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Corsair vengeance 4x 8gb sticks . I think they are 3000 cl16

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That's really really expensive ram. Was it worth it?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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timings are pretty good as is..... and I dont really know anything about messing with it lol

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it is not really a noticable difference from the aegis gskill 3200 to be perfectly honest

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thats what i had in there before I upgraded and it seems like a slight improvement in games but not much

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Have you ever used half that much gaming?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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nope not even close

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I've capped out at like 18gb in xplane 10.. with infinite load on

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Had a buffer overflow attack hit 48gb last week. Survived using my ssd for extra cache

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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33gb was my record in Star Citizen because it was leaking memory

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Damn. I haven't run into ram leak in a game

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I wouldnt really call star citizen a "game"

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Oops. Can't believe auto warning didn't hit me for that

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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lol that is funny

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Some dude had a y and a t together and it hit him every time. I don't even know what it meansn

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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star citizen is more of a ponsy scheme that released a beta demo

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Ahh

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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but too be fair had I not had that extra gig to spare star citizen might have crashed but it didnt LOL

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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XD

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Love it when a build is so overkill stupid doesn't even crash it

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I think my worst problem was figuring out why my cables were not getting me to 144hz on all 3 screens.. and a failed install for a graphics driver causing it to shut off for some reason

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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I will say I think I would see a much bigger improvement with the RAM from what I've read if I had a slower hard drive my 970pro could probably beat some ddr3 in a race

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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I had to buy 3x do 1.4 cables... So annoyed when I figured that out

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:05 PM

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I have bought so many expensive cables 😫

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I also went through many TVs trying to get one to push 120hz through an hdmi port

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Lmao.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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4k mind you

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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My buddy is doing that right now.. he's stuck at 30

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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I did find one all Q80 samsungs and above of the 2019 model have a 2.1 hdmi port

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I bought like 5 tvs trying to get this right and just kept returning them to best buy

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I figured that was the answer. I'm running 3x Asus 144hz 1080p as one giant monitor.. 5750x1080 is tough to drive on AAA titles

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5760x1080**

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I can imagine 3840x2160 is rough on my 2080ti

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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That's about 25% more pixels

quaint current Dec 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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4k would be harder to run than 5760x1080

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Said the same thing differently. 🤣

quaint current Dec 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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yeah

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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He's running 2x to 390s

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Struggle bus

quaint current Dec 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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i was trying to see what res would be close to it but gave up

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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me too I thought about doing the math but then i was like nah

quaint current Dec 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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at least they're decently good cards, if they were like 760's or something that would be much worse

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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They were like 980tis? Ish

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They did much better with 4k content than most cards of that erw

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Era**

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I'm so tired I just realized there are 2 people responding to me...

misty belfry Dec 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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i'm likely to get a 1440p display or a 1080p ultrawide display

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and i have a GTX 1650 😄

steady oasis Dec 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Much easier to drive. Depending on distance from the screen and screen size a much better experience as well

misty belfry Dec 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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will likely have to use dynamic resolution

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Does anyone know if you Can you mix and match diffirent ram ex: g.skill ripjaws v and (insert other ram)

delicate bolt Dec 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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i believe you can, but it's just not a great idea, especially with a pre-built

cobalt pike Dec 9, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Also especially not a good idea if you plan on running dual-channel with different ram

wraith karma Dec 9, 2019, 2:34 AM

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@misty belfry bro you can play the best like that

steady oasis Dec 9, 2019, 4:04 AM

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@wraith karma trollllllling lol

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It's never a great idea to mix and match ram...

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 4:12 AM

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you can do it and it might work you just shouldnt because it might not

hoary valve Dec 9, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Anyone have any good recommendations for low profile ram? Looking to downsize my case to a node 202

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Flarex, or remove heat spreader/buy OEM b-die

knotty sierra Dec 9, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Anyone know if this RAM is compatible with an i7-6600U? https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232156?Item=N82E16820232156

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Intel ARK lists 2133mhz DDR4 - but my current 8GB stick of RAM is a DDR4 2400T module...

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I assume RAM has different speed profiles embedded, and must be running at the 2133 that the CPU wants? Would the Ripjaws do the same?

cobalt pike Dec 9, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Anyone know if it is possible to control the RGB ring around the stock AMD cooler?

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(please ping me so I see your response)

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 12:24 PM

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@cobalt pike which cooler

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prismm?

cobalt pike Dec 9, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Wraith prism

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 12:24 PM

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https://landing.coolermaster.com/pages/amd-ryzen-wraith-prism-rgb-software/

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download that 😉

cobalt pike Dec 9, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Ok, I'm at school rn but will download later

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Anyone know if the WiFi/Bluetooth module on the MSI X470 Gaming M7 Ac is removable or if it can be physically disabled? I really want this board but don't like or want integrated WiFi or Bluetooth.

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Then don't use it

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A board having it doesn't mean you have to use it

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I got an ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC that also has em, doesn't mean I use them

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You can just turn them off

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:25 PM

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I would but I'm concerned about security issues with having it all integrated. I like being able to remove it if possible

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Then turn them off...

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Or get a different board

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

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I only want this one because it's one of the best boards out there for overclocking capabilities

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

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You can turn off any onboard radio devices in windows

grim grove Dec 9, 2019, 1:29 PM

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hI guys

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Yes but there's lots of nasty male ware out there that can re enable it if infected.

grim grove Dec 9, 2019, 1:30 PM

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i7-6700k good for gaming?

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Wow... Want a tinfoil hat aswell? Get a good anti-virus and don't watch free snu-snu

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It's easy

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:30 PM

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My Moms laptop was hijacked by such a virus and it would turn itself on and connect by itself

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Lol

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:32 PM

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As long as you are smart about what you do online and what you download there is almost no chance you will get such malware

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I usually am but I do slip up once in s while and click on a bad link while not paying attention

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For example

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:34 PM

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And that's what having a good anti-virus/Internet security is for

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I use bit defender

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Yeah anti virus usually does the trick but I just guess I sm paranoid lol

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am

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I have a friend that removes viruses for a living and he tells me some really crazy stories about randsomware snd uefi root kits

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He probably tells me too much

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lol

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Yea, I do the same at a repair shop, but people who get them usually do stupid things to get them

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Mostly boomers who don't know how the internet works

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And kids who don't know yet

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Haha makes sense

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I'm pretty good at building pc's and physically repairing them but I would never want to do virus removal. Sounds like too much of a headache to me

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Between bit defender and good practices on the internet no virus has touched my new computer :)

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Unscrew drive, remove, replace with new drive

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Tada

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Virus removal

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But what RyokuHasu said

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I have done manual removal of ransomware before, that was a chore

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Lmao I wish it was that easy

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I got a search engine thingy once on Chrome

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Yeah my friend said it took him many 16 hour days to help a client hr had

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Exlee is what it was called

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:45 PM

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At the repair shop we do data backups then clean installs of windows most of the time

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Cause it's easier than actual virus removal and most people want that

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:45 PM

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I rarely get viruses but it sucks when it happens.

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Makes sense

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Anyway no need to be paranoid about the wifi and Bluetooth in the board unless you take it to McDonalds and someone has a pineapple XD

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

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My mom's WinXP computer has a virus, or so I've heard...so it was tucked away indefinitely

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Ok maybe I will get it then. Just need to have my friends telling me about their day lol

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Pineapples are the real enemy of wifi

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But those are deployed in public places not your home XD

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Usually reinstall works if nothing else. But when I learned about uefi root kits and how they work sent chills down my spine

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Haha Pineapples :)

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Yea funny name for a wifi spoofer

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:50 PM

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I know they're rare but still

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Just crazy how do much more advanced maleware is nowadays

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Scams on the otherhand...

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Scammers are just plain evil

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Fo anything to get your money

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 1:54 PM

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scammers have no soul.

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:54 PM

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do*

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I like watching the videos where scammers get scammed

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Like deleting all their files or taking their money

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:55 PM

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That would be so sweet to watch

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Search "Deleting Scammer Files" you should find something fun

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Hackers that deploy ransomware are scammers

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I'm definitely going to. Will brighten my day

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I made a fake BSOD in Java, it has a delayed launch so you run it on an co-worker's computer then leave

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It's just a full screen png XD

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Oof

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Lol

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 1:58 PM

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@humble acorn kitboga 😉 ❤️

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friggin legend that guy.

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Yep lol

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 1:59 PM

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My wife got scammed at work, it was terrible.

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Putting fake BSODs on people's computers is funny, especially putting it in their startup queue

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I once switched my co workers desktop screen to display upside down. Took him a long time to figure out how to change it back

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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she worked in the jewerlydept at walmart, someone called pretending to being from Home Office.

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saying they someone was having issue with getting a giftcard to go through

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I don't know much about coding yet but I want to learn cool stuff like that

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Oh wow... That sucks

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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they knew her register codes.

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inside and out

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mind you this was right before xmas, and she was over worked.

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she didn't think about it. helped the guy out, (was 1,000 dollars GC)

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soon as she hung up she realized what happened.

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fired on the spot

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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If they knew register codes then it was probably a fired employee

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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nah

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Man that's horrible

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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cause they hit like 3 other walmarts that day

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Ah

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:01 PM

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yeah it sucked. she felt terrible

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she worked so hard to get that supervisor spot.

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then bam

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we are ok now, but yeah.. .that was trying times for awhile

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right before xmas, no job.

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starting over.

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a career ...

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🖕 scammers.

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Yea scamming his not OK, but light pranking is ;)

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 PM

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A couple years ago I received a phone call from some stranger telling me he worked for Microsoft and that he needed to access my pc to fix a non existent virus. Told him to go F himself

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 PM

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and thats whhat I thought at first Ryoku, I said if they knew your registry... it had to be someone there

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familiar with it

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the codes to punch in, everything

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it could'

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've very well been an ex-walmart employee, but not from that store

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walmart doesn't do much about change their system how it's setup

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she got 'debriefed' about that situation when she first started... but they don't ever refresh them about it.

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Scammers think their crimes are victimless but it's just the opposite

humble acorn Dec 9, 2019, 2:06 PM

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No scammers definitely know the victims exist, they just don't care

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They are modern grifters

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Never thought of it that way

grim grove Dec 9, 2019, 2:07 PM

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d

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d

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oops

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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yeah like i said, soul less

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they put us in a bind for a few months

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since i'm unable to work, rely on her for income 😦

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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They really need to get a real life and stop victimizing honest hard working people

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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2 kids to feed

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:09 PM

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You got that right

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:09 PM

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crummy crummy people.

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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I believe in karma. I think people like that get what they deserve in one way or another

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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yeah.

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we look at it as a gift, she honestly hated walmart

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now she is at lowes, making about twice as much

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Don't blame her at all

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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😄

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plus the beni's are wwwwwwwwaaay better

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Lol

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Lowes treats employees better than walmart

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I've heard that too

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

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they do a lot for the community

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during disasters

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people enroll in a program, can go help clean up, while being

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'clocked in' so to speak

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:12 PM

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That's really cool

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:12 PM

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it's really amazing

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:12 PM

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All local businesses should do that

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:13 PM

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or they bring people from other stores to help at another store close to disaster area.

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like we had a bad hurricane not along ago, bunch of people from Georgia stores came up to help out

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with the overwhelming demand of material being sold at the store

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they pay for hotel arrangements / food

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all that mess

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Most Big business just take and take from communities and never give back

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:15 PM

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:cough: walmart :cough:

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:15 PM

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There was a Fema center that was put into a Sears when the wildfire hit here

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:15 PM

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:)

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:15 PM

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But the Sears was vacant and of course Sears had nothing to do with it

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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They don't even exist anymore do they?

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Sears?

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Yeah

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I thought they went bankrupt

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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they closed massive stores

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I know that much

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Sears is closing 96 more Sears and Kmart stores in the US by February, a press release from the retailers' parent company announced Thursday. The closings consist of 51 Sears stores and 45 Kmart stores. Only 182 Sears and Kmart stores will be left after these closings.Nov 7, 2019

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Oh that's right, forgot they owned Kmart. Still one or two of those around. That was my favorite store when I was a kid

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No one ever heard of Walmart yet back then

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As much as I'm guilty of shopping at Walmart and Amazon, it's really sad so many classic stores have either gone bankrupt or are on the verge

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:25 PM

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it's the life we live now

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digital

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Yeah good in some ways, sad in others

weak hamlet Dec 9, 2019, 2:26 PM

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yeah

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I have so many smart devices I'm afraid one day they might become self aware and enslave me lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Xd

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I remember back when phones were mounted on the wall, had cords and no screens. Boy that makes me feel old.

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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14.4K dial up

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Oregon Trail on Apple IIs

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Haha I remember that

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Orange screen IBM's

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I loved that game! Played it for endless hours

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I've got two rotary phones in my room

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Whoa, haven't seen one of those in a hot minute

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I hve my Batmobile phone from the 80's still but no land line

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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You could probably sell it as an antique now lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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My mom has a candlestick phone NYEHE

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Should be about 100 years old one of these days

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Yeah my parents had the brick mobile phones back in the day

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They were huge

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Literally like holding a brick to your ear

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Imagine the pc you could put in that thing nowadays

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Tiny but enough room for a few pcbs

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Ikr

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I read that even after smart phones were becoming popular, people were still activating old school car phones cause they had such insane strong signals you could make calls in the desert. Then Service providers banned them

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:50 PM

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😔

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I bet you could still use Satellite service phones from the car

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Satellite phones are cool but it always sounds like the caller is calling from a tin can

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Tbh so do terrestrial phones because of vocoding

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:55 PM

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What's vocoding?

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Compression tech for audio signals

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Developed in the 1940s, is used in cell phone communications today

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Why do they compress it? Decrease bandwidth usage?

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Yes

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Makes sense

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I don't know nearly as much about cell phones as I do pc's

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Same with digital broadcast tv

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Except dtv uncompressed would use a lot more than just phone

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And better quality can be achieved with dtv than phone

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I wonder what the old analog bands are used for now

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:01 PM

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🤔

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Good question

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Pirate TV lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Xd

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I know there are still Analog tv channels, from being in cheap motels, and even the tv at home

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But they're such bad quality, and with the antenna I have there's no way to adjust it

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Really? I thought all stations were supposed to switch

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Idk why there are still analog channels 😂

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All major stations did switch though yeah

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I want to hook up an old antenna now just to see

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Haha

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You could probably get better quality in a major metropolitan area, but Iive in the sticks

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I used to live in sn area where no. channels would ever come in clearly. Had to watch through the static

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Oof

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Yeah didn't live there for long thank goodness

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:10 PM

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The thing about dtv is instead of static there's artifacting and stuff

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So it's less intelligible than low signal analog

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yeah I think it's even more annoying than watching through static lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Half the time I can't even tell what people are saying 200Sad

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Haha! I know, it like they're holograms glitching out

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Or robots

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I would just go back to reading books or something

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Fr

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Hopefully someday those bands can be freed up for other purposes and broadcast television can be retired

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I hope so

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I can understand why people don't want to pay for cable. It's ridiculous what they charge

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Yeah

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Pirating is the future in a socialist world

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In a corporate world, you will see Disney+

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Lol! only Disney + and nothing else

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Yup xd

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I just wish all old things got public domain'd and removed from the sleazy hands of corporations

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I'm totally with you on that

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:24 PM

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And it would all be available at lossless quality on Archive.org

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If only 😔

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I think Sony keeps trying to own Beethoven NYEHE

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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That site is awesome. Stumbled across it about a year ago

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Lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Ikr

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Found tons of neat stuff on there

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Everything from Oregon Trail to old window company catalogs

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I gave up on anything being fair after after net neutrality law was not renewed.

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:27 PM

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200Sad

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I know, I pretty much did cry when that happened.

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Oo the tiny netbook I'm using has reached 0% disk usage miraculously

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Lol

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:30 PM

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No hard drive clattering akmost

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I need to give it an SSD

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I don't care for laptops. Way too expensive for what you get imo.

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Yeah same

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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I understand e everything is miniaturized but still

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Maybe used cheap and broken but otherwise I would rather slap a new thing into my tower

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Me too

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:34 PM

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My tower is such a good boy 💪

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Laptops do come in handy though. I was thinking of maybe buying an old refurb just for bookkeeping and stuff but I probably wouldn't use it too much

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I have a full atx tower. I hate trying to mess around with midtowers. Can never get my hands in anywhere to work on them

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Hehe

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Mine's micro atx

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Would be neat to have bigger

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With more drive connections

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Full atx is a dream to work on

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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But can't complain too much imo

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Man imagine one of the bigger mobo sizes

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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I swear a lot when working on mid towers or smaller. I never swear at all working on full atx

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Xd

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Time for me to head offline for a while. Thanks for the realy cool and interesting conversation @split copper

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 3:42 PM

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You too 😃

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Seeya then

safe gale Dec 9, 2019, 3:42 PM

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:)

wet bone Dec 9, 2019, 4:07 PM

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AMD or Intel

split copper Dec 9, 2019, 5:11 PM

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IBM

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 5:57 PM

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I'm thinking of upgrading from fx but don't know if I should get a r7 2700x or a r5 3600. I will be doing mostly gaming but might stream here and there.

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And will I really notice a difference with a 1070Ti?

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Between those two, 3600 is slightly faster.

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Current GPU?

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Currently have a 1070Ti

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Might notice an FPX increase, yeah, especially at 1080p

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1080 tends to be more CPU based, higher resolutions GPU based

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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It's just a hard decision because the 2700x is $50 less

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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The 3600 is good for 5-8% performance increase

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If you aren't streaming, get the 2700x

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Honestly it would be just fine

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Ok thanks for your help

elfin warren Dec 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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YW

velvet galleon Dec 9, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Or just a thred ripper

visual bramble Dec 9, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Hello, I have a question.
Is it possible with the recent AM4 codebase unification to have a X570 mobo that doesn't recognize a 3000 series Ryzen CPU?

I have a 3800X that was in a board when it got the new AGESA update but when I put my CPU back in it's usual board I get CPU beeps now

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I'm holding out for 10th gen desktop to build a new pc with

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Could anyone recommend a cheap zen2 motherboard in the UK, I'm looking at the x470 prime right now which I could get for something like 80 pounds but what should I be looking out for generally, ideally it would be sli compatible and that's really about it

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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80 pounds seems reasonable I like to make sure I have at least 2 m.2 sockets and really dont care about SLI

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I don't have much cash and my limit is about 600-650, I'm happy with one as long as I can chuck in some slower healer data ssds later on

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:44 PM

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IMO the time of SLI has come to an end by the time you consider a 2nd card you might as well buy a newer card that would be better than 2 of what you had

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@versed apex @elfin warren isn't the 2700x actually better at certain games? Even if it was honestly iirc it was only a few frames anyway, I think it ultimately depends on what you want, personally I'd go with the 2700x because I have the attention span of a toddler and multitask a lot more than most I think

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I think 2700 and 2700x are really similair in terms of fps in games almost identical if you overclock

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:46 PM

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@pastel monolith that's true but I plan to put my build up for sale and it doesn't look as impressive, I'm getting another 1070 with my next paycheck just for that

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Also I think they were talking about 3600vs2700x

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:46 PM

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that makes at least some sense ok

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ah

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3600 is really cheap in the US right now

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:47 PM

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The 2700x here on Facebook at least goes for an average of 140gbp

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:47 PM

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in canada its $259 and the 2700x is the exact same price

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Is that cad

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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3600 would outperform the 2700x by like 8-10% in most games

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Also

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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yes it is cad

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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What is up with your meat prices wtf

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:49 PM

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3600 189.99 in the US

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:49 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191209-214905_YouTube.png

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@pastel monolith why is there such a difference?

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Wouldn't they just smuggle them in?

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Order to us post box

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Drive over border

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Sell for cheaper

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:49 PM

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not sure

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:50 PM

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what gpu is that benchmark using? i have a 1070TI

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:50 PM

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@versed apex rtx2080

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Probably a bit more noticeable

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On lower cards

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:51 PM

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so would i notice less of a difference or would it still be the same performance increase?

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oh nevermind

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:51 PM

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No expert

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I'm just thinking outloud more or less

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Let me see

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Well there seems to be a very marginal difference in favor of the 3600 with a 5700 xt which I would say is somewhere in that league

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are you getting a really nice deal on that 1070 or something?

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Me?

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yeah

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170 pounds

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Used though

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how much is a 5700xt for you?

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About 220-230

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oh, yeah that's not bad then

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:55 PM

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not bad thats really good

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Sometimes cheaper but people buy and less here and there's just a lot less of them on Facebook marketplace

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Less competition higher price I guess

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:55 PM

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ok i guess ill go with a 2700x then

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:56 PM

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i sold some guy my 980ti for $200usd a year ago when i got my 2080ti, i think he did pretty good for the time lol

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You can always upgrade whenever, I always get an earlier gen CPU when they're cheap and upgrade again the other year when the next gen CPUs become old and get cheaper too

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honestly most people would be fine with the mid-range CPUs and taking the extra money and duping it into a better GPU or monitor

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presuming they don't need the extra cores

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:57 PM

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yeah. plus any upgrade from FX will be worth it

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:57 PM

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I hope zen 2+ and zen 3 are on the same socket

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:57 PM

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yes they are

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:57 PM

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they will be

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Is that confirmed

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as with zen -> zen2 it will probably just take a bios update

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Woah nice

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That's actually awesome

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 9:58 PM

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its been confirmed since their release. you can run ryzen 3000 on b350 if you need to

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2019, 9:58 PM

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just update it first while you still have a cpu in there that works 😉

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:59 PM

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@naive pendant I agree with this, but everyone still wants a better thing for less money if they can help it, even if they won't end up using it to the fullest

quaint current Dec 9, 2019, 9:59 PM

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hell you can run a 3950x on a a320 but i wouldn't recommend it

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I would get a threadripper if I had the cash just for the memes

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but what good does it do to spend $50 extra bucks on a cpu that will net you almost no fps gain when that $50 could jump you up a tier in a gpu where you will definitely see tangible increases

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I mean messing around with such stuff is just fun

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you said you like to multitask, and tbh, with my 6700k, i never felt underwhelemed and my multitasking consists of games with lots of stuff going on in background, lots of browser tabs, ect

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@quaint current would that not make your house burn down...

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

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speaking of which should i get a cheap x470 or a b450 tomahawk for 2700x?

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

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B450s seem to be cheaper

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And the 470 boards really don't seem too good

quaint current Dec 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@naive pendant yeah thats why i wouldn't recommend it :v

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

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470 boards are totally fine

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if you don't need pcie4 and are going zen 2, x470/b450 are plenty viable

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What is the advantage of them over a good b450 though

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Like gaming pro max or whatever MSI came out with

quaint current Dec 9, 2019, 10:01 PM

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better vrm's and io on the majority of boards

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 10:01 PM

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i'd have to look at individual boards but i presume x470 has a more fleshed out chipset/IO/USB3 or type c

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but functionally they are very similar

versed apex Dec 9, 2019, 10:01 PM

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its the vrms i worried about. many people say the tomahawk can handle a 3900x just fine

naive pendant Dec 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

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