#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 83

fair orbit Dec 1, 2019, 12:34 AM

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sweet, would you suggest tridentz 2x16gb 3000 mem for 120? I was gonna get these team 2x8gb sticks for $50

dusk oracle Dec 1, 2019, 12:40 AM

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go with team

fair orbit Dec 1, 2019, 3:27 AM

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I see that 2x16gb team mem is 103. Supposedly these things are better on an asus board..idk why that's a thing tho

grizzled holly Dec 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Would a RX 560 2GB bottleneck a 2700X?

fair orbit Dec 1, 2019, 5:06 AM

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If anyone could help me decide b/t Dark Z and DarkZa Team memory that'd be sweet. I know the Za are "tailored" for AMD, but I just wonder if it matters that much.

dusky swift Dec 1, 2019, 6:08 PM

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What SSD can go on this MB ( ASUS AMD AM4 ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, USB3.2 Gen 2, 2.5Gbps LAN, WiFi 6 ) Would like one for my Windows to be on. Thanks

weak hamlet Dec 1, 2019, 6:12 PM

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any 120gb ssd would be fine @dusky swift

bleak onyx Dec 1, 2019, 6:15 PM

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is there one that goes on the MB with out a cable? Sorry was not log on in above msg

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@weak hamlet can this go on that MB?? https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-2tb/p/N82E16820167461

weak hamlet Dec 1, 2019, 6:21 PM

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yes it has an m.2 slot

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it's under the heatshield

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so you'll have to unscrew that, install the m.2 ssd and put shield back on, and be good to go

bleak onyx Dec 1, 2019, 6:27 PM

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@weak hamlet Ok thank you

weak hamlet Dec 1, 2019, 6:28 PM

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NP.

copper solar Dec 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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did you get a good review yet @weak hamlet

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HikariEvil

weak hamlet Dec 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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yes

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5 ⭐

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:30 AM

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I'm having the hardest time trying to decide what cpu to get. even tho I bought memory for amd (I could cancel I think). I currently have 6700k. I'm trying to decide b/t 2700x, 3800x(only $30+ over 37) or i5 9600k

urban ferry Dec 2, 2019, 3:34 AM

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if the 3800x is $320 right now thats what i would get

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if youre going for a bit cheaper the 2700x is still a fantastic cpu

dense cedar Dec 2, 2019, 3:38 AM

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or 3600

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:38 AM

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i agree with that

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great cpu

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Depending on use case, 6700k could be very close/possibly better than even a 3800x, e.g. csgo with a gtx 1050 ti

BFV with a 2070 super? 3800x definitelly > 6700k.

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:43 AM

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cuz I think the 2700x is about 160 now and Idk if I can justify paying 170 more for like 15% perf diff

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:43 AM

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i think the 3600 is 185?

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:45 AM

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ohhh I didn't even think of that

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I see it for 199 on amazon and that's not bad. comes with a game.

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:50 AM

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mine auto overclocked to 4.2ghz

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:52 AM

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you have a 3600x? what board do you use?

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:55 AM

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i have the 3600

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@fair orbit this thing is awsome

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:57 AM

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nice ya there's not a huge diff b/t that and the X version

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:57 AM

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yea

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i wasnt going to spend the extra 50 on it

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:57 AM

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I wish I knew if the prices of the newer would drop again in a few months, but I gotta feeling they won't

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:58 AM

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what cpu do u have?

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@fair orbit

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 3:59 AM

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6700k

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 3:59 AM

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nice

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my old cpu is a 3770

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and a gtx 780

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 4:01 AM

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ya, i'd keep it but a friend wants to buy my old rig. I want soemthing that'll last 3-5 years. Also gotta find a new gpu, but not sure if I want to dish out the $$ for a top card

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 4:01 AM

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i got my 1070 for 192 shipped

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 4:01 AM

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oh wow special?

frigid talon Dec 2, 2019, 4:01 AM

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i got a 1070ti for less than 300

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 4:01 AM

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technically its used but literally for like 5 mins

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its the asus strix 1070

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and a x570 board with 1tb nvme 4.0 ssd

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 4:04 AM

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nice

civic ore Dec 2, 2019, 4:04 AM

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intel needs gen 4

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Is there a main diff b/t x470, b450, a320 boards? Is x for higher end, b for mid and a for starters or something?

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I read the 2700X supports up to 64 GiB of dual-channel DDR4-2933 memory, but then I'm seeing people talk about using 3200. I'm assuming I can use 3200 and enable xmp I think it's called?

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 5:32 AM

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@fair orbit for the regular consumer, the main difference between the chipsets are supported features (number of: usb ports, sata port) and what amount of pci-e lanes are split in what way.

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ask if you want more info :)

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as for memory support: look at your mainboard of choice. There will be a QVL list of memory sticks for your board. Some types of memory is only guaranteed to work at X speed with Y number of sticks

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@fair orbit here is an example for the MSI X570-A Pro (Board that a client will be using in a new build): https://puu.sh/EKS2L/f48925e19d.jpg

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 5:38 AM

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I picked up the 2700x for 150 (had promo credit) and am looking at the rog strix b450 f board for 104

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 5:39 AM

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https://www.asus.com/dk/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_QVL/

ASUS Danmark

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Memory / Device Support | Bundkort | ASUS...

Best AMD AM4 B450 Ryzen ATX gaming motherboard with advanced cooling, Aura Sync, SupremeFX, dual M.2, Intel LAN, and USB 3.1 Gen 2

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dont mind the DK part of the url. it wont effect the QVL list

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 5:40 AM

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the strix supports up to 3200 so i should be good. and since it has 4 with total 64gb, I'm guessing 2x16gb is fine

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 5:40 AM

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in theory yes.

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IF you want to be certain, look in the QVL list

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annoyingly ASUS dont have their QVL lists online on a site that is easy to lookup, instead they use PDF files for it

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 5:43 AM

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dang, not sure if this mem will work then. It just came out this month and is "tailored" to amds

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 5:43 AM

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the tailored part does not mean much in reality

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 5:44 AM

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i figured, but the price was good

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 5:45 AM

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IF you are truly worried about it (i would not be, it is only 2 sticks, 4 is where it gets weird)

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you could contact the support department at ASUS

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worst comes to, you can always sell it to someone :)

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and it used to be there was a ROG Community forum, so maybe look for something like that

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 7:39 AM

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@gritty meadow hey still around?

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:43 AM

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@fair orbit i am

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 7:45 AM

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the mem thing that's more board associated than cpu right?

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:46 AM

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yes and no

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its one of those "it is complicated" kind of answers

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IF your first/main priority is to get your system up and running with as little hassle as possible.

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you go with a kit from the QVL list.

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IF you want to OC the snot out of it, then it is a different matter.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:48 AM

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My new board is not happy with ram OC so far. Successful post and boot

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But

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The XMP that worked before...

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Does not now

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Nor am I having success with manually OCing

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 7:48 AM

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damn

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Bios just resets

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It's on the latest version

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 7:49 AM

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you said you use msi?

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:49 AM

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@glad stream it is one of those things/situations that might be fixed by a multitude of things.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:49 AM

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It's an AsRock board

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:50 AM

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a new bios might fix it, the same board + ram with a different cpu might fix it

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again, we are talking about an OC of ram.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:50 AM

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Both my old and new board are AsRock B450s

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:50 AM

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the amount of factors that play into it are many, and require a bunch of knowledge about your specific parts to comment on them in a meaningful way

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:51 AM

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The old board was successfully running these sticks at 3200

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Same CPU

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New one is not here yet

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:52 AM

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the only takeaway from that is that your old board+cpu combo worked well with it.

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that is all that that tells you.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Haha thanks

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:52 AM

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not trying to be snarky, just in case it is not clear.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Nah you're good

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Could I revert to an older bios?

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Because the older board was not running the latest

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:53 AM

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but people (in general) have a tendency to think that "it worked on this other thing that is outwards identical" means that it works on the replacement board (also outwardly identical)

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aye, you should be able to flash it just fine. Please check your OEM's support site for info on that :)

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Cool. I could also try the beta BIOS

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But idk

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I'll try the old one first

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:55 AM

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The "if it isnt broke, dont fix it" saying comes to mind.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Yeahhh

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But in my opinion

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It's currently broke

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:55 AM

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no, the RAM oc is broken

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:56 AM

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True

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I should see how destiny runs rn

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Before I go messing with BIOS versions

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But just windows tasks seem

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Sluggish

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Like how it was last board before OC

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 7:57 AM

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the only one that can decide on what to do is you.

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Yep yeppp

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So far seems good

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200+ frames in ye menus

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About to load in

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Wow

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High 90s mid 80s

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As opposed to low 80s high 70s on the old board

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But then there aren't many enemies here

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I mean I'm not gonna complain about this performance at all

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Can't wait for the new CPU

copper solar Dec 2, 2019, 1:04 PM

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fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:24 PM

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i need a sweet 570 mobo deal..like 200 off a cross

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:24 PM

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just seen one

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amd or intel @fair orbit

dense cedar Dec 2, 2019, 1:25 PM

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he said 570 mr bocks

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bocks omegalul

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box

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:25 PM

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ye he did didn't he

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I need more coffee.

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lol

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157884?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-157-884-_-Product

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109 after rebate

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145160R?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-145-160R-_-Product

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144 .. openbox

dense cedar Dec 2, 2019, 1:27 PM

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get the aorus one

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if you're going x570 treat yourself to something that looks and is nice

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Think $400 for the trx40 aorus pro will sell out?, the other 3 have

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:29 PM

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probably

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:29 PM

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crap my bad lol

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x570

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amd

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:30 PM

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links up there ^^

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:31 PM

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asus prime and tuf boards are poop?

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 1:31 PM

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prime and TUF x570 are good

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:31 PM

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all boards are poop

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depending on who you ask

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:33 PM

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lol true true

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i guess I should say what I have and what I wanna do with it? I picked up some team mem 16gbx2 (it was $114, seemed ok) 3200, might not do nvme yet, i got an adata 1tb ssd sata. Might go 2070 S or might go 1660 or less if possible. (currently 7850). I don't play anything super intensive. maybe as creed, no man's sky and possibly cyberpunk. I picked up a 3600x.

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:46 PM

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look at it as future proofing.

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get the 2070super, be set for a looooooooooooooooong time.

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:48 PM

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you don't thinke the 3k cards will be nuts?

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:49 PM

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probably

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and probably expensive

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 1:51 PM

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The will be. Eventually. But mainly for ML compute / RTX , kinda like 2080 ti vs 1080 ti.

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(my guess). 50% more gigarays /sec. Same 11GB memory layout but with 16Gbit IC's , more bandwidth on gddr6.

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:52 PM

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i wish 1070s were cheaper.

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 1:56 PM

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1070s?

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 1:59 PM

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1070's . damn wish i coulda got that msi ventus that sounds legit

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I keep looking at that msi 5700xt MECH

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 2:04 PM

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that's probably just as pricey as a 2060 or 2070 right?

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 2:05 PM

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ish yeah

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 2:06 PM

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if I could get that ventus for 189, would that be a good price?

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1660 ventus. kinda odd one site says ti other doesn't, but have same boost speeds

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Sub 200 is good for a 1660 - but would have to check reviews for said model. Ignore specs listed for base/boost mostly. Cooler will have more impact.

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 2:14 PM

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only con i've read is the fans are at minimum 44% (speed i'm assuming)

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 2:18 PM

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I like evga. Do you like evga?

fair orbit Dec 2, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Don't really know much about it. that's amd?

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last card I had was amd also current card and it's...olddddddddd

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 2:54 PM

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lol

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 3:04 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-mpg-z390-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-socket-lga1151-usb-3-1-gen-1-intel-motherboard/6319405.p?skuId=6319405

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Does this have built in wifi or do i need an adapter

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 3:09 PM

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built in

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Ty

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 3:10 PM

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glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 3:51 PM

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@copper solar did you post something about ram? Because I might still be able to cancel mine and order something that my new mobo will like more

copper solar Dec 2, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Check #tech-deals @glad stream

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Double check if the promo works with a product you're interested in before canceling your order

glad stream Dec 2, 2019, 3:52 PM

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I just realized they're already out for delivery

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So looks like I'll have them today

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Hopefully I can figure out how to get them to OC

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I ordered two more of the sticks I had because they were doing well in the b450 I had. I guess at least I know I ought to check QVL now.

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Worse comes to worse I could just wait until I have enough $ to just buy new and use them in my old board. Maybe get another of it and do another build using them.

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Lol I wish I had mondo $$

copper solar Dec 2, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Same

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 8:52 PM

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hey team

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Sup

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 8:53 PM

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what do you think of this?

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10th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-10710U, 12 MB Cache, 6 Core, up to 4.70 GHz

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i am looking to buy a laptop for programming

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looking at this ?

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https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-7390-laptop/cax13w10p1c606csu?view=configurations&configurationid=04441ea4-f9f7-4e9a-9552-ff3f1ae2d31d

Dell

XPS 13 Inch 10th Gen 4K Laptop | Dell USA

Check out new 33 cm XPS 13 7390 laptop featuring innovative HD webcam located on the top of the InfinityEdge display and next generation Dell Cinema.

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worth it?

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I'm not big into laptop and programming sadly, but I'm sure someone will chime in that does 🙂

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Richard Stallman uses a T420 thinkpad.

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 8:57 PM

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that has a windows operating system

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I think he runs an open source bios/bootloader like libreboot and probably debian or something

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 8:58 PM

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i am looking for ubuntu or mac

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OS

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yea but i rather have a machine that comes with linux

dusk oracle Dec 2, 2019, 8:59 PM

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You can always replace windows with Ubuntu or dual boot

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 8:59 PM

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when you run linux like that

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than you run into problems of having driver support and other stuff

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so i rather have something that comes with ubuntu

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also god damn

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that lenovo looks thick

dusk oracle Dec 2, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Last time i checked Ubuntu is free

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I do not suggest you choose a t420 for a main laptop unless already a thinkpad fan. That said, the newer models like the x1 carbon 6th gen are comparable to Dell's XPS 13 (can actually be bought with ubuntu - maybe better driver compatibility simply due to inertia of consensus) , or HP's spectre elite

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These are all 13" 2lb or so machines. There are of course larger, more capable, more powerful models.

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Why would you suggest that

dusk oracle Dec 2, 2019, 9:03 PM

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he mentioned programing and coding

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:03 PM

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nvm, ya, that makes sense

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yea thanks ecks

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that makes sense

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just not a fan of the size

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I mean - now I understand. But no, don't get that lol, that's of 0 use for his use case as described so far.

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:04 PM

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and looks so heavy

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so the xps 13 that i posted above

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is useless?

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not good enough for coding?

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like idk

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web development

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front end

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and back end

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and a bit of data science

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what do you think

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:05 PM

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To clarify -ecks answered my question as to why he would suggest a P series.

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:05 PM

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yes yes

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that was clear

dusk oracle Dec 2, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Well all i core laptop processors ending with U are extreme low powered processors as well

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:06 PM

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I mean, do you compile much on the local machine? Or is it just a thin client basically

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:07 PM

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i do compile a bit

dusk oracle Dec 2, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Normally when i see someone looking for something that would require what he asked first thing that pops in my head is a Xeon and a Quadro

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I'm curious about your use case, sounds like you're currrently on windows/MacOS and would like to move to a unix environment for both work/general use?

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:09 PM

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windows user....have been testing ubuntu and macOS developement at work and i have to say its so much easier

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in windows there are always so many extra steps

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:11 PM

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So like, full stack, react, node js, rust elixr, klotin w/e ?

weak hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 9:11 PM

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you don't like extra steps?! 😛

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:11 PM

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yes exactly

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lately i have been getting involved with data science

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but i am mainly in full stack web development

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i was looking at the macbook pro

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but idk

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too expensive

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Well, I like thinkpads like the x1c - form factor towards the portable end of laptops. But I can't say I know a single full stack SDE or PM who has to crunch a lot of compiling, or even GPU compute on their portable machine.

TL;DR Pick based on preference focusing on ergonomics, QoL, but google around or otherwise investgate a bit further to ensure your usage profile isn't an edge case requiring a specific feature set - or just more of a desktop replacement kind of "laptop"

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Fwiw - MS gives every intern a surface book pro with a 1070 and some 6600hq or something (~2ish yaars ago) which is a 15" 3?-4 lb "middle ground" of form factor. But more than overkill for any actual developer work. Once again, it'll comme down to preference imo.

jovial arch Dec 2, 2019, 9:24 PM

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thanks for your input

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 10:55 PM

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if i were to upgrade from my r5 2600 what would be the best option. nothing brand new and top price around 175 ish

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:01 PM

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What is the rest of your system looking like @rapid mortar ?

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:01 PM

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going to be a 5700xt soon and mobo is a b350m

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Hello,
I just bought 4x16gb of G Skill Trident Z Neo 3600mhz ram from Newegg , I should receive it by the end of the week. I tried asking MSI, but they are vague. I have an x470 gaming pro carbon motherboard, it says the board will take up to 3466mhz ram. If I plug in the 3600 Mhz ram I just bought, will it run at all, or will it run but at slower speeds. Just trying to figure out if I need to return that and get slower ram, or keep it as is. Thanks
Dan

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:02 PM

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2sec Dan

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:02 PM

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yes it will run but only 3466mhz

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:03 PM

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@marble epoch can you link me the exact model (of ram) you have purchased?

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the product page at newegg is fine

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:04 PM

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i am right, right? it should only run at what the mobo can put out

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:04 PM

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@rapid mortar are you using a SSD at the moment, and if you are, which one?

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM

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no ssd right now

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM

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then that is your biggest upgrade right now

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM

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i know that lol

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id get an ssd before cpu

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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then why are you asking here? :)

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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im just wondering what what be a good upgrade in the near future lol

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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ask when you are closer to purchasing

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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OK, cool, I appreciate the fast reply. OK hold on

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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i suppose that would've been smart lmao

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-32GTZN https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16820232867?m_ver=1

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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i say that because it gives us (people here and elsewhere) a better (up to date) foundation to answer you from @rapid mortar :)

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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okay true

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prices do change i suppose lmao

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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yes, and new sku's get introduced

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etc etc

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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yeah

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i plan on getting a 500gb ssd and the 5700xt very soon

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:08 PM

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@marble epoch dont expect that kit to go above 3200

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:09 PM

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OK, thanks again, at least it will work until I upgrade the mobo

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:09 PM

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i am not guaranteeing anything @marble epoch, just to be clear.

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it should work. but there is no guarantee

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO-CARBON#support-mem-14 <- this is the QVL for your board

Support For X470 GAMING PRO CARBON | Motherboard - The world leade...

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:10 PM

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No worries, I appreciate the input. Msi, wouldn't give me a straight answer

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:11 PM

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aye, because they just look at the QVL like i do

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because that is all they can realistically do.

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there are simply too many "weird" memory kits around

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and you are very welcome :)

marble epoch Dec 2, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Thanks again.

naive pendant Dec 2, 2019, 11:16 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cdjpnk/ryzen_3xxx_series_ram_overclocking_community_sheet/

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:18 PM

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im loosing it lmao. my mobo only supports 2 fans what is the name of the piece that allows me to use more than just 2 fans?

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i literally forget

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 PM

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fan splitter

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 PM

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thank you

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 PM

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keep in mind, it can be either 3 or 4 pin

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 PM

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omg i could not for the life of me remember lmao

gritty meadow Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 PM

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so make certain you order the right one.

rapid mortar Dec 2, 2019, 11:20 PM

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yeah definitely

grizzled holly Dec 2, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Could anyone recommend me a good AM4 B450/X470 motherboard under 100$? Thanks!

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 AM

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b450 gaming plus max, b450 tomahawk max

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:41 AM

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@naive pendant Is the B450-A Pro Max good?

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:41 AM

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no

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:41 AM

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how come?

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?

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Do you have further questions about the links/articles/build guides I've sent you?

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:47 AM

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wait you sent me those?

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:48 AM

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type that into search, then search again the other way around, - only because my recommendations and reasoning hasn't really changed haha.

weak hamlet Dec 3, 2019, 12:48 AM

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lul

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:48 AM

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okay thanks! 😀

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what about the b450 F?

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Not trying to be terse - they're just really good resources to learn how to figure out what parts make the best build for you - the user.

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 AM

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all good!

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 AM

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lacks flashback, nothing else redeeming

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 AM

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oh

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how about the asRock B450 Steel Legend?

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I'm attempting to stay under 100$

quaint current Dec 3, 2019, 12:52 AM

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what cpu?

grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 12:58 AM

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@quaint current a 2700X

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 1:04 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX-Socket-AM4-AMD-B450-SATAIII-USB3-2-Gen2-ATX-Motherboard/323928280646?hash=item4b6ba14e46:g:3RYAAOSw271djALr

eBay

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grizzled holly Dec 3, 2019, 1:41 AM

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oh thanks 😀

solemn raven Dec 3, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Hey all, I'm doing a new build. I have a Fractal Design R6 USB-C case and ASRock x570 Steel Legend mobo. I'm having an issue with the USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable from the case. I dont see a port for that on the mobo. Is there an adapter I could use or am I SOL?

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2019, 3:48 AM

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@solemn raven based on the board info, there is only Gen1 connectors there.

solemn raven Dec 3, 2019, 3:51 AM

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@gritty meadow looks like 2 Gen1's but no Gen2

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2019, 3:55 AM

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yes. as i said. Based on the board info. the Board only has Gen 1 connectors.

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and you need gen 2

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 AM

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@solemn raven https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=871&area=en

SilverStone INTRODUCTION：CP14

Designed for cases with front USB Type-C ports that utilizes the 20-pin Key A connector, the SilverStone’s CP14 adapter can convert motherboard’s older USB 3.0 19-pin internal header to be compatible with 20-pin Key A connectors. It is easy to add and there is no driver i...

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 AM

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i need help

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 AM

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you can use something like that as an adapter, but they are pricey

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and still going to be limited to gen 1 speed

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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@sharp blaze can you help me

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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what do you need

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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whats a good ssd

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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m.2 or sata

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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affordable/good

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how do i determine which is compatible?

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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what motherboard do you have

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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im pretty sure its sata

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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sata is standard

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:17 AM

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0VYXHD

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it was a prebuilt dell inspiron

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im upgrading the gpu to a 2060 super

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:21 AM

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what is the model number of the dell

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:22 AM

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i5676

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i5676-A696Blu

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:24 AM

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looking it up now

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ok, so it looks like you system can use either m.2 drives or sata drives. depending on the config you may already have a combination of sata and m.2 drives in the system

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:28 AM

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hmmm

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sata is better tho right

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:29 AM

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m.2 nvme is faster, but for a storage drive or loading games you may never notice the difference and sata is usually a bit cheaper

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what size ssd are you interested in buying

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:30 AM

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1 tb

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again its just im buying a new gpu

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i want faster load speeds and i want to be cost efficient

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trying to stay around or under 100

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 5:33 AM

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If the system is using a B450 board (if i am seeing the right model for it using a Ryzen 7) there is StoreMI which merges a smaller size SSD with a large HDD

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:33 AM

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ryzen 7 2700 yes

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so i can use both?

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:35 AM

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yes

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:35 AM

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how will that work for gaming?

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like i would want games on the ssd

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to run faster

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:36 AM

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you would just select the new drive as the install location

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:36 AM

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i see

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do you think this will put pressure on my cpu

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 5:36 AM

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There is this you can look into if you would like https://youtu.be/cn8qXIPOdCM

YouTube

Gear Seekers

What Is AMD StoreMI And How Does It Work?

There has a been a little bit of confusion as to what StoreMI is and how it works. AMD asked us to explain it to you guys in our very "Gear Seekerish" way to...

▶ Play video

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:36 AM

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and most launchers allow you to easily move games to a different drive

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:38 AM

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okay i see

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which ssd should i get

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:38 AM

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this would have been an easier choice before today with the black friday sales, at the $100 price point it limits you to a few drives

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:38 AM

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honesty now knowing i can have two

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i could probably do with a 500 gb ssd

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because i would have 1.5 tb total

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i dont do that heavy gaming

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:43 AM

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@naive pendant what do you think, you are usually on top of the ssd game

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best deal I am seeing in the 1TB range on newegg right now is a WD blue for under $100

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-1tb/p/N82E16820250092

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:45 AM

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hmm

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:45 AM

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there is a deal on the 660p, but I have never bought anything from the seller

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:45 AM

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How much media / non i/o intensive data , how much game/program (i/o intensive data) and what's your current C:/ drive filled size

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:45 AM

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i might go with a 500gb instead

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knowing i can keep the HDD which is 1 TB already

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i have maybe like 500 GB used

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maybe half of that is games

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so lets say 250 gb is games

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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so 2700 misc b450 board, you already have 1 single 500 GB hdd for os and everythin?

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best to link a pcpartpicker, or list components

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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i have a 1 TB HDD

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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its a dell

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Gotit, so currently everything on 1 TB hdd?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:47 AM

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pcparkpicker doesnt have my motherboard

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Budget $100 but flexible?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:47 AM

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yes right now everything on 1 TB HDD but i want an ssd for my games

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:48 AM

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from the reviews the board has 2 m.2 slots, 2 3.5 slots, and 1 2.5 slot,

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stock sata power cable can do 3 drives

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Without knowing too much about the dell, or even if I did, safe bet recommendation fromme would be buy an 860 evo or whatever the best deal for your budget is at 1Tb 2.5" ssd not m.2 and clean install windows to that. Follow the 10forums guide I can link later to take ownership of old drive, use for media storage

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Oh, so a recent dell

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A userbenchmark will also tell us everything we need to know

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:49 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4GkTwW63vs

YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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thats a video review

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:49 AM

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that is the one i have

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but i have the 4 GB

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which is also why im getting a 2060 s

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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userbench will list very part number including mobo andbios

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/

Home - UserBenchmark

Top Market Research & Genuine Product Insight from our Users. Quickly find category leading products with UserBenchmark.

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run that post a link

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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sec

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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You plan to put a 2060s into a dell?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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ye

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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to get a 2060 in there you may have to remove that bracket that holds the gpu in place

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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i know there in the back

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u have to slide em out

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im downloading that thing

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i think im going to go with a 500 gb ssd

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/samsung-860-evo-series-500gb/p/N82E16820147674?Item=N82E16820147674&Description=samsung evo ssd&cm_re=samsung_evo_ssd-_-20-147-674-_-Product

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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not bad

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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These are quality drives, but backordered right now. you can go ahead and order it I think and it will ship when its in stock

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I have one of those and its been good

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-500GB-Internal-MZ-76E500B-AM/dp/B0781Z7Y3S/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=860+evo+500gb&qid=1575352620&sr=8-1

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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But the drives do not come with a sata data cable so you will also need to order one of those

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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i have prime to

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i need a cable?

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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for those you will need the data cable

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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can u find me one

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i thought i can just put both of these in

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-3-Pack-Degree-Right/dp/B018Y2LEBE/ref=sr_1_3?crid=WH4NV0KHCDF9&keywords=sata+3.0+cable&qid=1575352694&sprefix=sata+3%2Caps%2C360&sr=8-3

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Not bad deal, tbh I might buy some of those at 250/500

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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something like that is cheap enough and will give you some spares if you want to add another drive later

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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how do i use those cables

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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So, windows is staying on the hdd? or?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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yes

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windows hdd

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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one end with the 90 degree will plug into the ssd, the other will plug into the motherboard

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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well

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hmmm

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i think i will keep windows on hdd

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gotcha

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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or vise versa depending on the case

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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the way your case is designed I am pretty sure you need the 90 on the ssd side

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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All of mine mounts behind so i can't use the L part lol

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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but they can flip

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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So, the mobo has 2 m.2 slots?

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Ya, one near the cpu, and another under the gpu

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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This is what i mean for behind and this is from my case https://i.gyazo.com/45d2888c0a8f6a5b750e776e9414dff7.png

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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with b450 I would assume the top one is direct to the cpu, and the other is pch

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Wouldhave to check the manual, but even the worst implementation would be warp 9 vs current "feel" of windows on hdd

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The crosshair 6H x370 for example has that weird sharing config with the top m.2 and pcie 1

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Windows on a HDD is so slow

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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okay so now ima have a ryzen 7 2700, rtx 2060s, 1tb hdd, and 500gb ssd

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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one other thing I cant tell from the video's or pictures is how the ssd will mount. Dell sometimes uses pressure fit clips to hold drives in place, sometimes its screws

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Sounds like a problem for the zip ties to figure out

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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My wife might kill me, but that 500gb is cheap right now

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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the 860?

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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ya

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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it lowkey is

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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its been about a year since I bought mine, but I think I paid close to $100 for it

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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ssds are 500 mbps compared to hdds at 100 right

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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so intender if you buy that does that mean we have to wake you up on new years lol

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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giving it a faster load speed

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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only if you dig up my grave

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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I bought two 1TB of those 167 each in 2018, Loving these cheap storage and ram prices

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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ill have zack help out then he could use the work out 😛

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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TBH - the price of a indistinguishibly faster computer is really continuing to shrink

sharp blaze Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Now if you ever want to add more drives, plan on getting m.2 drives. with them they dont need any cabled, they just slot into the motherboard.

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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i hope Dell put the M.2 screw

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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IMO - if you have 2060 super budget, I'd drop a $100ish 1TB NVME in there , clean install windows, if needed keep hdd on retianer for storage, or better yet, for backup only.

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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my budget is 400 total for this upgrade

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im already at 420 with gift cards i earn from work and a $60 credit

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Hmm, ya, would have to cut down on gpu. Nice card tho

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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hmm

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Half the fun is chasing the next upgrade imo

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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so maybe instead of the 2060 s

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what u have in mind?

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1660 ti?

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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i'd have to look at what GPU's are on sale compared to your current expected expenditure for the 2060 super upgrade. But I'd absolutely make room for $50-120 of nvme boot.

Though - the unknowns that remain are how amenable/interested you are in resinstalling windows,
dropping down on gpu, trying new stuff etc

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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i mean

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if the cost is around the same

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i dont play with super high graphics

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was just doing the better gpu for a longer term investment

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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is your monitor 1080p 60hz?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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yes

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Well, that makes it much, much easier for us to confidently recommend dropping down a tier on gpu for a cutting edge ssd

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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hmm

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Side note , userbenchmark takes about 3 mins and gives all of this information haha

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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do i just copy from the website?

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UserBenchmarks: Game 42%, Desk 53%, Work 51%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 - 71.9%
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580 - 41.2%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB (2016) - 66%
RAM: Samsung M378A1K43BB2-CRC 2x8GB - 75.8%
MBD: Dell Inspiron 5676

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lmao

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Download the exe, run it, whenit's done, it'll show you a web page. link us the page, or I can try pick through that and findit manually lol

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22290237

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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didn't know you were coming from a 580, not enough horsepower for your gaming?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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the 580 is okay

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graphics could be a little better and load times a bit slow

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like for good graphics it struggles

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Wanna see a userbench comparing my ssd's to an hdd?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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sure

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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2 major things i can see holding back your system is the drive and the memory being at 2400MHz

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Hmm, only one I have with an hdd bench is this, a spinpoint F4 2TB
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20019814

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So, ignore the percents, but look at the HDD random 4k read, write and mixed. it's .7, 2.3, and .7

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That 830 evo is a $100 drive I bought in literally 2012 and it does 24, 60 and 25

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Point is, I think you'll very much enjoy this upgrade.

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:26 AM

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ok lets do the 1 tb ssd

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but i need a lower tier gpu

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then the 2060 s

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:28 AM

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btw, that's not my normal system config, I went to some lengths there to see how many generations of drives could run at once lol.

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Anyway, $400 total for system overall?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:28 AM

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$400 for new gpu and ssd

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:28 AM

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What games do yo play

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Lower than a 2060S is a 2060 or a 1660 Ti

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:29 AM

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i play dead by daylight

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world of warcraft

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runescape, sometimes ark

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csgo, overwatch

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:29 AM

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How competitive are you with csgo/overwatch

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Well read not hear lol

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:30 AM

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not very ive actually been getting off those games and going to MMOs more

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Are you playing on 1080p or higher?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:30 AM

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1080

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:30 AM

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hate to push you into yet another parts suggestion, but i'd upgrade monitor + ssd only. lol

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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upgrade my monitor?

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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i am assuming he means like 1440p

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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from 60 hz to 144. Though, maybe just one step at a time here

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It's a 1080p 60hz monitor, yes?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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lemme check sed

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sec

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75 hz

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1080

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:32 AM

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75hz is pretty good right now

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:33 AM

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i want better performance not looks

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:33 AM

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For simplicity sake, how about I just send a recommendation for gpu/ssd, you can make the call from there - if you do want to go 144 monitor, always feel free to ask

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:33 AM

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sure!

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:33 AM

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I mean, I've played on all of these configs

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:34 AM

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im thinkin 1660ti tbh

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:34 AM

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I've had a 580 and played games onit + a i3 2120 , I've played years on 1080p60, also on 2400 hz ram, hdd boots, to 2.5" ssd ,

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:35 AM

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You don't play any demanding like MMO's?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:35 AM

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black desert online, world or warcraft, not many others

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looking into ff14

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rust but its eh on this

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takes a while to load when moving fast

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i play gta5

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:37 AM

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open world games like Rust it would load better with a SSD

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Lol ya, rust is even hard for me to max out with low frametime dips

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:37 AM

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rust is a tuff one

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:37 AM

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I didn't bother to play that game cause of all the grieving i have seen

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like logging out to only find out the next day you've been robbed

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:38 AM

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true

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-Internal-MZ-76E1T0B-AM/dp/B078DPCY3T/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=860+evo&qid=1575355108&s=electronics&sr=1-1

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hmm

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anyone know the difference in the msi 1660 ti (armor vs gaming x vs ventus>

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:40 AM

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If going with Nvidia i would honestly suggest going with EVGA

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:40 AM

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u think so?

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:41 AM

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They do tend to have better customer support

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:41 AM

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i might stick with msi

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ive used them before

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:42 AM

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and with MSI cards from what i have experienced can be hit or miss meaning i had a 1050 Ti from MSI and the area around the fans was a little small which i had to sand it down

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:42 AM

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oof

low flume Dec 3, 2019, 6:42 AM

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hello?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:42 AM

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hey

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can you find one on amazon>

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a 1660 ti

low flume Dec 3, 2019, 6:43 AM

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got a question about getting a new monitor

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:43 AM

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whats up

low flume Dec 3, 2019, 6:44 AM

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I built a gaming pc with msi motherboard, 17 intel cpu, 32 gig ram, 1080 ti fe video card

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how high of a monitor can I run? as far as 144hz or more...and true hd or 2k or 4k

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:45 AM

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you mean i7

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Also you can do 1440p 144hz without any issues really

low flume Dec 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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is the 1440 2k or 4k?

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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2K

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Ultra-Gaming-06G-P4-1667-KR/dp/B07RJGK1PW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=1660+ti&qid=1575355589&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-3

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whhat u think bout this ecks

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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That is a pretty good card

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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this will fit in my motherboard right

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:48 AM

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and i believe that is the length that would fit your system

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:48 AM

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system*

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:48 AM

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was looking at the XC but that seemed to be too long

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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i think the xc is a bit to long yea

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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This is the GPU i am using now https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-06g-p4-1161-kr/p/N82E16814487437

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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here, also 5% off https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-1267-KR&associatecode=29OR9CPT20N35CI

EVGA

EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti XC ULTRA GAMING, 06G-P4-1267-KR, 6GB GDDR...

The EVGA GeForce GTX 16-Series Graphics Cards are powered by the all-new NVIDIA Turing architecture to give you incredible new levels of gaming realism, speed, power efficiency, and immersion. With the EVGA GeForce GTX 16-Series gaming cards you get the best gaming experience...

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:50 AM

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This is why he linked the SC 😛

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:50 AM

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the ultra to long i think

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yea

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:51 AM

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https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-1263-KR&associatecode=29OR9CPT20N35CI

EVGA

EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti XC, OVERCLOCKED, 2.75 Slot Extreme Cool, ...

The EVGA GeForce GTX 16-Series Graphics Cards are powered by the all-new NVIDIA Turing architecture to give you incredible new levels of gaming realism, speed, power efficiency, and immersion. With the EVGA GeForce GTX 16-Series gaming cards you get the best gaming experience...

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Ya that triple slot card like mine lol

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But ya with the 1660 i am using i was able to get way over 80fps playing WoW

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at 1080p for games like Overwatch you will get more than 100 frames

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:53 AM

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EVGA cards are black > sc > XC >ftw3 > kingpin

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:53 AM

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For games like Rust and Ark i can't say anything about it cause Rust i don't own and Ark i haven't installed ever since i got my card

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:53 AM

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ima do the sc

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so

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hmm

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Oh, I did that backwards

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:55 AM

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@next mica Do you ever plan on playing at 1440p?

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:55 AM

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no

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maybe actually

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Black is the lowest, locked clocks / power card, sc/xc usually have reference pcb, ftw3 and kingpin are custom pcb + higher power limits

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:55 AM

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If not you could maybe take it down a notch and go with the 1660 Super instead

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:56 AM

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1660 super is better than the 1660 ti

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right>

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?

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Well i wouldn't say better but a lot cheaper on the cost

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 6:56 AM

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p sure the ti is cheaper

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 6:57 AM

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and i think it is about a 10% difference and @naive pendant you can back me up if i am right on that

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Ti is more than the Super

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 6:58 AM

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I would google around for benchmarks for current GPU's and find the cards of concern on said benchmarks for comparison

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GPU drivers/windows updates/gamepatches constantly change ranking, as such - I recommend just looking at whatever card got reviewed last.

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 7:02 AM

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This is like a month and half old now but gives a right idea between the 1660, 1660S and 1660 Ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkcZJpL_7AQ

YouTube

Testing Games

GTX 1660 vs GTX 1660 SUPER vs GTX 1660 Ti Test in 9 Games

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 vs GTX 1660 SUPER vs GTX 1660 Ti l 1080p l Buy GTX 1660 SUPER - http://bit.ly/2rRg52K Games : Assassin's Creed Odyssey PUBG - 01:08 F...

▶ Play video

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Good choice of benchmark video.

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now... the thing is, a 580 isn't much behind a 1660 lol.

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Unless you stream, then it's head and shoulders above because Turing's NVENC

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 7:07 AM

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i stream on twitch \

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im going to go with the gtx 1660 ti

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with the 1 tb ssd

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i think the ryzen 7 2700 will do me justice for a bit longer

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 7:09 AM

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Good pick. I recommend the last one linked from evga - but best option is aesthetic preference. Hope the upgrade goes well.

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 7:09 AM

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and this will be a nice upgrade to storage, load times and graphics

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ima go with the evga

naive pendant Dec 3, 2019, 7:09 AM

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2700 will last you as long as you stay on 1080p 60hz

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 7:09 AM

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and the 860 evo

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Order total: $346.85

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOBVb2l7tAE

YouTube

Geralt

RX 580 vs GTX 1660 Ti | Test in 7 GAMES

RX 580 vs GTX 1660 Ti | Test in 7 GAMES I know it's an unfair test, but it was requested by a lot of subs. Battlefield V: 0:00 Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 0:5...

▶ Play video

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Ya that video is a lot older

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cause right now the 1650 Super gives on average 70fps on battlefield 5

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 7:14 AM

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outdated?

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ah

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Guaranteed delivery date: Dec. 6, 2019

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i hope nothing goes wrong with the cpu

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 7:15 AM

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You wont have any issues

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i know cause i have a 1660 and a Ryzen 5 2600

next mica Dec 3, 2019, 7:24 AM

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ahh

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okay bet

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i placed my order ima go to sleep thanks for all the help guys

dusk oracle Dec 3, 2019, 7:37 AM

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np

autumn stream Dec 3, 2019, 9:57 AM

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I just installed my 1660TI in my old x58 rig to play WOW... 99FPS everything maxed

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I'm actually quite pleased with the GPU

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upgraded from i7 920 to Xeon W3680 as well

solemn raven Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@sharp blaze perfect.....thank you!!

naive pendant Dec 4, 2019, 1:31 AM

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New amd releases are killer lol

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Might need to redo my workstation plans

high igloo Dec 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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When is the B550 motherboards coming out?

wraith karma Dec 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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No idea

violet stratus Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I just got all the parts for my Black Friday build except for the Ryzen 9 3900x Any word on when they're going back in stock?

indigo aspen Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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No clue

quaint current Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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2900x doesnt exist. are you talking about the 3900x?

violet stratus Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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My bad, it was a typo

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Yeah 3900x

limpid pelican Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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so i have a bit of a problem, i have a "ryzen 7 2700" on a "asus b450-f motherboard" and "16gb of corsair vengeance rgb pro ram", the ram is only running at 2133Mhz when it should be at 3200, I tried changing my bios settings to DOCP but my system wont boot when its selected. How can i get my ram to run at 3200mhz

meager onyx Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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i bought a ryzen 7 2700X for streaming

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is it a good choice, considering its nearly 2020?

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you can @ me

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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yeah

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they are still good cpus thatsok

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But to be honest, it would of been better to get a 3600x. @meager onyx

rancid delta Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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^

meager onyx Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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i got the 2700X for 169€ xD

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Better single core performance, faster and more energy efficient due to it being 7nm instead of 12nm so better to cool especially as i presume you're going to overclock it

rancid delta Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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It's not a bad choice, but I wouldn't put my money on it, while I won't get as many cores as the 2700x, the difference between that and the R5 3600 is almost minimal

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Like Rock said, it is still a good CPU, but it will be less valuable than the 3600 in the oncoming years

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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u def need a 10980xe for minimal streaming

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doubles as a heater too

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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hmmm

rancid delta Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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you can plan a BBQ on it

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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have a dedicated core 2 quad array for bbq

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@meager onyx Nice. I snagged mine for $160. Today is the delivery day but it's behind. Lol

meager onyx Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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xD

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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thats pretty cheap

meager onyx Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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paid 85e tho

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€*

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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from where tho

rancid delta Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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~~paid an arm and a leg for mine~~

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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any of yall cop zen 3rd gen from micro center

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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thonkang

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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they had decent discounts at launch fr fr

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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never heard of that

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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ryzen i mean lmao

rancid delta Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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@meager onyx Another advantage of going directly to 3rd gen is PCI 4.0, although it is a gimmick to me, it will be worthwhile when it comes to using capture cards

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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no i mean microcenter

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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do u live in us?

high crystal Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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nop

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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ah thats why

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i got my 3700x for like 250$ and 5700xt for 350$

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I managed to grab this used xfx 460 for $10 as a temporary card until I can afford an up to date one haha. I won’t be doing any heavy gaming so I’m good for now.

lament fern Dec 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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at launch so it was crazy

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lmao i used to have a 470 good times

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Bet

meager onyx Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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paid 85€ for it cus my gf paid half as a gift xD

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Well, I guess I paid $0 then because a friend paid for everything. Lol

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 10:59 PM

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For my first build I just want basic components so I chose a, AMD Ryzen 5 2600. Is this good for a start or could I get something a little better within that price range?

shell pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I'm actually curious about what the fastest BUS transfer speed is that newegg offers on motherboards.

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:02 PM

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What do you mean bus transfer speed

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:04 PM

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What's your budget and plans to do with the PC? @candid spire

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:05 PM

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£750 max, I've already bought the MoBo. And it's just for basic gaming for the time, but I was thinking about looking into streaming too.

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Which mobo did you get?

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@candid spire

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Tuf b450m-plus gaming

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I have an amazon basket of stuff. But I'm always looking to see if I could change things

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:09 PM

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3600, a nice psu from this list
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
maybe a 1660ti , unsure what current sales would be best

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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The mobo only supports 2nd gen AMD.

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Ah okay. So is that bad ?

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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No it supports 3rd gen with the correct bios.

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:12 PM

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^

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:12 PM

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You may need to apply for a loaner kit (free) from amd to flash the bios to one that is 3rd gen compatible.

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Also ^

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The 2600 isn't bad for how cheap it is.

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Okay then, thanks. I'll look into that to get a better understanding so I don't buy the wrong parts

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Are you using pcpartpicker? @candid spire

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I tried it before and when I put all the stuff in I plan to get it said everything was compatible

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I highly recommend the msi b450 gaming plus max, or tomahawk max for a budget AMD 3600 build. Higher, you could go with one of the cheaper x570's like the Asus TUF for 160.

glacial niche Dec 5, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Yeah, the tomahawk max is a fantastic board.

candid spire Dec 5, 2019, 11:16 PM

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If only I joined before I bought this one

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:16 PM

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dads

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZwRCdm would the ram and mobo work good on that

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?

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the mobo doesnt say 3600, but im wondering since it says 3733 if it would work or not

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Two different 2x8 kits?

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM

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oh

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM

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That's a decent 3600c16 kit for plug and play.

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM

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forgot to remove gskil

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8RtkJb

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without trident z i mean

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just wondering if that 3600 would work even tho the mobo doesnt 3600mhz ram

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:19 PM

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It will

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Oh, switch the mobo to the b450 gaming plus, it's only $100

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:20 PM

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but i need micro atx and i need it to be ryzen 3000 compatiable out of box

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:20 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9C97YJ/msi-b450m-gaming-plus-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-gaming-plus

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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does it come ryzen 3000 compatible or do i have to update bios?

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Supports flashback https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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also price isnt much diff ill just stick with one i have

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its easier

naive pendant Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Should work either way

languid sapphire Dec 5, 2019, 11:22 PM

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eh, price isnt much diff

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ill just go with what i have

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ty tho

dusk oracle Dec 6, 2019, 12:14 AM

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@naive pendant There is also this option as well now https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kRTzK8/msi-b450m-pro-vdh-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-vdh-max

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and there is a Tomahawk version for the Max series

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 12:20 AM

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ok

north kelp Dec 6, 2019, 12:20 AM

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mortar max

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that's the one you want if you can get it

thick trail Dec 6, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Hey guys so i currently have a Geforce 1660 and im nopt quite sure what CPU i should go with, with my current CPU (I5 6400T) i bottle neck in nearly every game and im planning on getting a ryzen 5 2600 but im not too sure if i should go with something else
any suggestions?

weak hamlet Dec 6, 2019, 1:04 AM

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budget?

thick trail Dec 6, 2019, 1:19 AM

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400 AUD?

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the ryzen i was looking at is currently 200

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so yeah

wraith karma Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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@thick trail i'd say like 3600x for speed

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and future proof

long geyser Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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just 3600 non x

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3600 and 3600x perform more or less the same with PBO

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or with PB2

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or both?

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idk with which tech. But it's basically the same now

wraith karma Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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i guess

dusk oracle Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Most of the time when i see people wanting the X versions i would only recommend it if the person doesn't overclock but if they do want to overclock to just stick with the non X versions

long geyser Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Even if you dont really OC it's basically the same as going into BIOS and enabling XMP

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just do the same except for PBO

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PB2 should be automatically enabled I think

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 3:54 AM

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If the cooler on the 3600x was the prism, that'd be nice.

forest sigil Dec 6, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Would it be a problem if a mixed brands of memory?
I ask this because atm I have 8gb stock and want to get 16gb more. Both what I have and what I want to get are the same speeds. My motherboard supports up to 32gb

split copper Dec 6, 2019, 5:28 AM

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might work fine without problems, but don't count on that being the case

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my brother's old computer currently has 2x2gb ddr3 Kingston and 2x2gb ddr3 Corsair

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1600MHz and 1333MHz respectively

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my guess is the Kingston is clocked down to 1333

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I don't know why it's so mixed when there was 4 of the Corsair DIMMs anyway ^^'

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Howdy guys was wondering what cpu cooler recommendations I could get. I'm ganna be running intel I7 9800k on an asus prime z370 a mobo the rest of the cast and hardware will be plenty cooled with fans but I feel like cpu cooler is necessary for the i7

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 10:06 AM

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Hi

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I need help with ram questions

sturdy horizon Dec 6, 2019, 10:09 AM

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i might be able to help @naive pendant

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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guys

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If I get this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1XCKWW/?th=1

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and I have a ryzen 5 3500x

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is it bottle necking the cpu?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I think more speed would be better

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unless you really like the rgb

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https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-PC4-28800-3600MHz-F4-3600C19D-16GVRB/dp/B07KTC3TBM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=3600&qid=1575627874&s=pc&sr=1-1

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like this around the same price same timing and faster

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 10:32 AM

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aight

eager hollow Dec 6, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@naive pendant @pastel monolith The Corsair vengeance pro has better timings. It's CL16 3200mhz vs CL19 3600mhz. Your best bet is to look at your motherboards comparability list and look for RAM on there. The speed difference between these two kits is negligible, however if it has been tested by the manufacturer for the motherboard and a timings profile loaded then that will work better.

wanton path Dec 6, 2019, 12:19 PM

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I have a CL15 kit but I can't get it past 2133MHz on my mobo

weak hamlet Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 PM

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what mobo

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 PM

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i9 with 390-f and 32 gb 3000 mhz should fit fine, right?

eager hollow Dec 6, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Intel doesn't sync as well as AMD with high frequency RAM, does it match the mobo supported kits?

graceful rain Dec 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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yo guys i set my ram to 2800 mhz but cpuz is only showing 1657mhz

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anyone?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 1:08 PM

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@eager hollow sorry took a minute eating breakfast. I didnt see the timing difference. But the speed isnt negligible with a ryzen cpu it needs the faster frequency

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and I would go for higher frequency over better timings for a ryzen cpu

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but yeah for my intel I see no difference between 3200, 3600, 4266

eager hollow Dec 6, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Theres been a lot of comparisons, but it's speed + timings. I think gamersnexus has a great video on the subject that is worth watching. I originally was going for CL18 3600mhz, but instead went for CL16 3200mhz. The reason was at my budget I could get 32gb rather than 16gb, and I had been doing more work with Unreal Engine recently.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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@graceful rain CPUZ only shows single ram speed so double it

eager hollow Dec 6, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Overall, 3600mhz CL19 may be slightly faster, but timings are important. The most important factor is the motherboard support

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 1:15 PM

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@eager hollow yeah thats probably true I dont work with many AMD systems as of late. I did upgrade my gskill aegis 3200 to gskill tridentz 4266 and saw almost no difference in performance but I have an 8700k intel so speed doesnt seem to matter much

stoic nexus Dec 6, 2019, 1:18 PM

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u might get some points on benchmarks but thats it

eager hollow Dec 6, 2019, 1:20 PM

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I'll see if I find the Gamersnexus video on Ryzen RAM. It is true that speed upto 3866mhz is a boost to performance, but if you're running really poor timings then you won't get that performance. It's the combination of timings plus speed that really make the difference. I'd probably say CL14 3200mhz will beat CL18 3600mhz. Honestly the performance boost to the price will not matter to most people. You would be better off putting that money into a better CPU. Best way to garrentee good performance tho is to match a good ram kit with the motherboard.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I'm not sure how much timing really affects things either since my timings decreased also but didnt really seem to add any performance went from16-18-18-38 to 15-15-15-36 not a huge difference either I guess

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dont have any super RAM that can do 13 or 14 timings

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Anyone know much about cpu and ram overclocking?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 1:59 PM

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AMD or intel?

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I would just watch a gamers nexus video on whichever you are overclocking they have some great informative videos on youtube and you may even be able to find your specific motherboard/cpu

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Intel 9700k msi mobo

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Some mail boards have an auto overclocking feature that does ok with it

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MSI***

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Afterburner I believe is the software/hardware

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Otherwise, there should be TONS of forums dedicated to oc of a 9700k

weak hamlet Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 PM

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this

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I have that for my gpu, but I've went into bios and enabled xmp any when boots it fails same with the cpu oc genie in bios. Fails too

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 PM

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give it some more power

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what type of ram Xmp shouldnt fail

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Back it back to stock clocks and run the OC genie again

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https://www.msi.com/blog/intel-9th-cpu-overclocking-5ghz-with-z390-motherboards

How can you overclock your Intel 9th Gen CPU up to 5GHz with MSI Z...

MSI has introduced 9 models of Z390 motherboards for the new 9th Gen processors. Here we show you how to overclock Core i9-9900K to 5.0GHz+. This overclocking guide works for all MSI Z390 series. It is also perfect for entry-level overclockers. You can pe

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 PM

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hit us with some more info what kind of powersupply and memory

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could be dirty power, not enough power, ram incompatibility

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Are you using a UPS?

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Ram is adata 3000mhz showing up as just 2666mhz and power supply is thermaltake 600watt

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 PM

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what country are you in?

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Usa

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 PM

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so power should be clean

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what gpu

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Msi 2070

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 PM

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@grim niche when you use the auto overclock a lot of times it messes with your ram timing.

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You will probably have to manually set them back to factory spec, as well as check the power for the spec and correct that as well

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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yeah I agree most likely that ram doesnt have an xmp profile

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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I had that problem when running the auto overclock on my asus board and 8700k

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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When I do xmp it increases power for ram to 1.35v and does change all the timing for it also

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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yeah its supposed to but it is supposed to get those instructions from the ram if they have them if not it guesses

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Ok. So I need to google and find the stock timing for it when I change to 3000mhz?

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When I enabled xmp I have like 6 options to choose from for ram speed though

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From 3000-4200 I believe

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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have you tried only enabling xmp for the ram and leaving the cpu alone?

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Stick to the 3000 that's you've stated was stock to get it stable

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@pastel monolith good point. Was it ever stable or did it always cut off after you used the xmp and auto overclock?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 PM

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also another thing to do would be update the bios on the board as the 9700k is relatively new

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 PM

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What specific MSI board?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 PM

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If I was a betting man I think I would bet that a bios update/flash will solve this issue

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also why I stopped buying msi boards 🤫

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Msi z390 pro

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@steady oasis ram is advertised as 3000mhz but has only ever been 2666mhz. Also simply enabling xmp still caused it to fail

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:33 PM

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update the bios

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I have to flash it with thumb drive?

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xpg z1 ddr4 3000mhz this the ram I have

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:34 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z390-A-PRO

Support For Z390-A PRO | Motherboard - The world leader in motherb...

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yes

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thumb drive

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https://storage-asset.msi.com/file/pdf/How_to_flash_the_BIOS.pdf

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Go with beta or non beta?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:35 PM

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instructions

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I would go beta

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7B98v181(Beta version)

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Ok. I'll try that in a few hours when I get home

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I bet it fixes it right away just go through normal steps for xmp after its updated

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 PM

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hey 1 thing. i have an i3-8100 cpu, and it runs a bit hot. should i pay $60 for a watercooler?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 PM

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whats a bit hot?

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its an intel so it can take up to 100c

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and you cant overclock it...

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I would say no maybe get another case fan if concerned

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Jack are you running stock?

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 PM

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yes

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Then I highly recommend getting the cooler for $60

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 PM

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it runs at abt 55 degrees

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 PM

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While the cpu CAN handle higher temps it will lower the life of the cpu over time

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Cooler is always better.

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:45 PM

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yes

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:45 PM

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However if you have the space you may want to consider a high quality air cooler over a 120mm AIO

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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i dont

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thats the issue

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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120mm AIO is definitely the choice then

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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i have a cdrom drive and it gets in the way

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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How often do you use the drive?

azure fractal Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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pretty often

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:46 PM

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55c is really cold for a cpu

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Cool, 120mm AIU is a great choice

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:47 PM

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who would water cool a cpu thats only hitting 55c.....

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nobody thats who

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its an intel for gods sake

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max temp is 100c

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Noise alone is a reason to upgrade. And cooler is always better.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I guarantee that a 120mm rad and fan will not be quieter

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I assumed the 55c was at mild workload. Browsing etc.

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Or he wouldn’t have been looking for a cooler to begin with.

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And 120mm cooling solution is almost always going to be quieter than the intel stock cooler.

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Per joule of thermal transfer.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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so intel changed their stock coolers for the specific cpu and they arent really that loud anymore

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most intels dont come with coolers anymore

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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A cpu cooler is one of the best bang for buck upgrades you can make in your pc assuming that your GPU isn’t already maxed out.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I disagree

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that cpu isnt going to benefit one iota from more cooling

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I will give you maybe a slight decrease in noise

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it is an i3 8100 running at 3.6 with 65 watts of power

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to be honest it would probably run just fine with passive cooling

coarse bay Dec 6, 2019, 3:17 PM

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anyone can give me a clear answer wether i still need to update bios on this mainboard for the 3600X ? https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC

MSI Deutschland

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC gaming motherboard supports AMD® RYZEN™ Processors for Socket AM4, DDR4-3466+(OC) Memory; Mystic Light and Mystic Light Sync can setup 16.8 million colors / 17 effects in one click.

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@coarse bay yes you will need to update the bios to the beta version

coarse bay Dec 6, 2019, 3:29 PM

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@pastel monolith okay i hope the mainboard update which i ordered with my pc will fixthat issue

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 3:30 PM

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it should although I hope it didnt cost too much that literally takes seconds to do on your own

coarse bay Dec 6, 2019, 3:33 PM

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just wanted to be sure ^^

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 3:33 PM

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is it a prebuilt?

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@coarse bay If it doesnt work its because they updated to the most recent stable version and didnt install the beta (which is required for that cpu and board) and then you will have to do it yourself

coarse bay Dec 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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well the mainboard has usb flash if i remember correctly so i should be fine, right ?

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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yep just need a thumbdrive

coarse bay Dec 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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and no i picked the parts myself

pastel monolith Dec 6, 2019, 3:36 PM

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gotcha I only asked because I've never hear of anyone offering a motherboard update with a sale

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I'm pretty anti-warranty and all that though so its possible i just skip over it

modern blade Dec 6, 2019, 3:39 PM

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AMD also has an upgrade program where they will ship you an older Ryzen chip compatible with the 450 chipset that allows you to boot and upgrade the bios through UEFI as a worst-case option.

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@pastel monolith @steady oasis just flashed bios. Now simply enabling xmp works and am running 3000mhz on my ram now

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Glad to hear it!

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Which motherboards have RGB software that doesnt trip off anticheats?

brazen wedge Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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i have a now in the box asrock z170 oc formula just sitting in the box unused if someone is interested in buying then dm me

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170 OC Formula/index.asp

ASRock > Z170 OC Formula

ASRock Super Alloy; OC Formula Kit : Power / Connector / Cooling / Monitor; Supports 7th and 6th Generation Intel Core™ Processors (Socket 1151)*8th Gen Intel Core™ desktop processors are supported with Intel 300 Series chipset motherboards only; Digi Power, 18 Power Phas...

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new*

glossy sphinx Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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can i run 2200g with rx 570 for med/high settinngs 60 fps

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Hey, as great of an overclocking board that is, let's keep buy/sell/trade posts out of the public text channels, it helps the server stay unbiased and cuts down on clutter.

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:27 PM

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@steady oasis also enabled oc genie and it put me up to 4.7 from 3.6. Will cinebench be a good test mark?

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:29 PM

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That's a good one

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Sure, it's a relatively light load vs p95 etc, but can still give meaningful data.

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@steady oasis so my temp hit 98 at load. How do I fix that

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@naive pendant prime 95 will definitely get it hot. Good stress test to hold and see if it's stable.

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What cooler do you have? Is it stock?

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 PM

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No, it's an aio cooler

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Wait that doesn't come with a stock cooler

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Um, what kind of aio? What kind of thermal compound did you apply?

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Was pre installed. Just know it's a 120mm aio

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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That's probably not enough to keep a 9700k cool. I'd suggest at least a 240mm.

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Unless you're at stock clocks

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Ok. Well no CPU OC for me atm then

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Thanks for the help

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:37 PM

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9700k puts out ~150W ish at 1.3 vcore 5.0 0avx on p95 IME. I used a d15s with good results.

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:38 PM

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I'm running a h115i on my 8700k with 5.0gh of and she stays no higher than 50s F

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I'll definitely be getting a new aio then

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:40 PM

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delid?

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Sorry to hear what you have isn't enough bro. But tbh, unless you're really bottlenecked at your cpu, do you need the higher core clocks?

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:41 PM

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I'm not an AIO fan, but h115 /h150i pro or the x62 would be my pick if I did.

rancid delta Dec 6, 2019, 7:41 PM

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['Jurassic Park' Theme plays in the distance]

📎 IMG_20191206_104138.jpg

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Yours?

rancid delta Dec 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Old hardware at work, AM2 era Mobos and some ddr2 chips

dim coral Dec 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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How times have changed for the better

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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@steady oasis just wanted to get them few extra frames

dim coral Dec 6, 2019, 7:43 PM

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How times have changed for the better

grim niche Dec 6, 2019, 7:43 PM

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@steady oasis just wanted to get them few extra frames

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Nice, glad to see old/classic hardware posts. LTT should mention us more often haha.

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I brought an old one into the office not long sgo

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Ummm ...

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https://linustechtips.com/main/profile/571666-psychopathe/

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My top post

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Nice custom loop. What flight sim? Also - I like luke's psu tier list, I link it here to users often haha. - saw his comment on the pic

steady oasis Dec 6, 2019, 7:46 PM

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IBM 5150. That was a fun lunch break playing Yahtzee

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Ohhh. We have 11 FRASCA devices

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3 ftd5 Skyhawks. 1 ftd5 Piper Seminole. 1 Piper arrow aatd. And 7 rtds

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12 total..***

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Then some random batds

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I'm the chief sim tech for Liberty University

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The custom loop of we did was for my boss. We have 3 vr PCs as well here that are pretty sick

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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I used to play a lot of x-plane 8, still have a saitek aviator somewhere.
Microsoft flight sim multiplayer seems from from airforceproud95's videos

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Hey guys wanted some recommendations

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Howdy guys was wondering what cpu cooler recommendations I could get. I'm ganna be running intel I7 9800k on an asus prime z370 a mobo the rest of the cast and hardware will be plenty cooled with fans but I feel like cpu cooler is necessary for the i7

naive pendant Dec 6, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Noctua D15s are popular.

eternal crypt Dec 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Depends on how much your willing to spend on a cooler and if it's air or liquid

long geyser Dec 6, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Mugen Rev. B
Windale 6
Le Grand Macho RT
D15s
DRP4

rancid delta Dec 6, 2019, 9:46 PM

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@naive pendant AMD Sempron 3400 and AMD Sempron 3200 from left to right

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📎 IMG_20191206_132749.jpg 📎 IMG_20191206_132731.jpg

jaunty nimbus Dec 6, 2019, 11:54 PM

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noice

rocky flame Dec 7, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I didn't know if I should put this in the gaming channel or not: I am playing modern warfare and I see that the cpu (3900x) is at 22% and gpu is around 9%. The game is very cpu heavy. It maxed my i7 8700 when I had it. The observation that I am trying to figure out is that my fps is around 100. Thats fine, but my i7 was putting me at 130,lol. I can go much higher than 100 with the 3900x. Anyone know why it isn't going at full speed ahead?

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 2:44 AM

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i have 8600k with a z370 msi tomahawk. looking for a z390 motherboard that has a good bios, bluetooth, and maybe wifi. what do yall recommend?

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 2:50 AM

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well first of all I would recommend not upgrading if you dont need something you dont currently have but there are some good options

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I like the ASUS TUF Z390M

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and the GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 2:54 AM

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i need a usb header i have a usb c connector for my case thats not being used

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being picky but its whatever

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I have actually been looking myself as I have a z370 board with my 8700k and a not very expensive one its like a gigabyte h3d or something like that but my point is that there is nothing wrong with it and I have decided to hold off. I would like a few more m.2 slots and few other things

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And thats not a problem I almost just said the hell with and bought one too so I know where you are coming from

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 2:55 AM

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If you want a fun project - grab a Z270 Apex or similar for $100 ebay and hardwaremod+ flash z370 bios with coffee lake micro code for 8th/9th gen.

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Z390 aorus boards are really nice though.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 2:56 AM

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and of course if its all about that usb header you could grab a pci usb header card

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just make sure you have the right amount of pins for your cases usb cord or get an adapter

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 3:05 AM

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yeah but i also do want to be able to do good for a better cpu down the line

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i mean my tomahawk board does well now but if i want to do 9900k i doubt my boards vrm can do that well but i could be wrong

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:07 AM

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you would be wrong about the vrms on that board at least

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it should be fine to overclock a 9900k

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My below $100 gigabyte h3p thing can hold my 8700k overclock to 5.3 on all cores perfectly stable

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:08 AM

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https://www.overclock.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=99745

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 3:08 AM

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thats what i was kinda figuring but not alot of people talk about my board lol

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yooo thanks

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:09 AM

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see my board didnt even get numbers but your board looks great

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 3:09 AM

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yeah no kidding

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for a 100 board when i got it im impressed lol

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 AM

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A user in another OCN discord tested the 9900k / msi gaming pro carbon today and 150W load put the VRM mosfets to 109C

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:11 AM

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ouch

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@naive pendant are boards similair enough across the board to do random single board tests like that?

dim coral Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 AM

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yeah the pro carbon isnt that great

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I never could understand how my VRMs dont heat up like the tests show they should

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Yes, with few exceptions, the M10 Hero , for example, had two different configs. One with doublers, one with 4x2 power stages

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I am in a 62 f ambient location

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Few MOSFETS/power stages have accurate internal temp measurement features , even when they do, it's stil up to the software to read and display correctly

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The IR 3555 , an asus favorite, is supposed to read pretty accurately

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:16 AM

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everyone told me this board would be terrible at overclocking but then when it worked without issues and made it through the stress tests I was like well I guess I'll keep it. I was 2080ti poor when I got it lol

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and I am at 5.3!!!

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granted my 8700k is delidded

naive pendant Dec 7, 2019, 3:17 AM

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People wayyy overestimate or misattribute the extent and to what effect higher end mobo features can provide.

pastel monolith Dec 7, 2019, 3:18 AM

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thats kind of been my take on it