#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 79

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Strange, does your PSU have a tester?

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It'll be a small black clip that fits over the 24 pin

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:16 AM

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No I dont

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Is the JBAT1 jumper set to keep data

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:23 AM

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That's not connected

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:27 AM

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It should be set to keep data, is that the same setting?

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:30 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190826_203008.jpg

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How would I change it if it wasn't?

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oh, ya open is keep data.

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:33 AM

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So the only thing left to try is plugging in that 4 pin. But I would need a 6pin to 4 pin

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:34 AM

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You could probably get away with a 8/4+4 to 8 + 4 adapter.

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:34 AM

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And those don't exist to my knowledge lol

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:35 AM

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You can get a 6+2 to EPS12V 8 pin adapter, but the plugs themselves are normally reversed polarity.

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Nvm I do need an 8/4

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8 to 4 sorry

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I've tried so many different things

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When I got the cpu, some of the prongs were messed up. But that shouldn't matter cuz it still fit in

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

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It might just be a dead board, could be a very unconventional requirement for 8+4 12V

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Oh, do any of the debug leds light up or anything?

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

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No

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I guess I'll message newegg. See if I can get the board again. And send this one back or something.

vague lava Aug 27, 2019, 12:48 AM

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some of the pins were messed up? did you straighten them? di the cpu drop in or did it take force?

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Hard to say if it's bent pins, DOA board, psu, cpu, etc. But ya, could just be a problem out of your control.

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Yeah I bent them back. I could look to see if some of them got messed up during installation

vague lava Aug 27, 2019, 12:50 AM

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its something to check....

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Okay. So I have a pin missing...

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When I took off the cpu, and tried to turn it on. I got a click and nothing lese

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Else*

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Had the LEDs connected too and it didn't work

main turret Aug 27, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Switching to mini itx for college. suggestions?

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I'm looking to run a 1060 or a 1070 as my gpu

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Going budget

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Before the amd freaks start screaming "BUY A 1600 AND AN RX 580" , I'm just looking at options at the moment

quaint current Aug 27, 2019, 1:44 AM

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uhh the 2600 is like $130 rn, good price and u can get a board for like $100 or less

urban ferry Aug 27, 2019, 1:48 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-gv-n2060ixoc-6gd/p/N82E16814932117?Item=N82E16814932117

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@main turret ^

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I was hoping for someone asking for a used intel build recommendation

urban ferry Aug 27, 2019, 1:50 AM

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getfishslapped that card is probably ur best choice imo

oblique steeple Aug 27, 2019, 2:01 AM

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You should probably state your budget

urban ferry Aug 27, 2019, 2:02 AM

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that card i linked was cheaper than the itx 1070s and around the itx 1060s

naive pendant Aug 27, 2019, 2:30 AM

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@naive pendant Hey, what model laptop?

quaint current Aug 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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@main turret what case/budget, cause some cases can support decent sized ones

grizzled holly Aug 27, 2019, 10:09 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-00AA-00010?Item=9SIAE869VK0687

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Is that CPU cooler okay for a 2600?

dusk oracle Aug 27, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Id stick with the stock cooler instead of an unknown

sand glen Aug 27, 2019, 5:16 PM

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P2 of the my adventure for anyone that cares lol. Got a replacement set for the motherboard and CPU. Bought a new power supply as well just in case. Let's hope all goes well lol.

grizzled holly Aug 27, 2019, 5:53 PM

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900KF-vs-Intel-Atom-Z520/m764533vsm4161

UserBenchmark: Intel Atom Z520 vs Core i9-9900KF

Based on 1,488 user benchmarks for the Intel Atom Z520 and the Core i9-9900KF, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,182 CPUs.

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https://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/GSKILL-Ripjaws-4-DDR4-2400-C14-8x16GB-vs-GSKILL-RipjawsX-DDR3-1600-C10-1x8GB/3567vsm89412

UserBenchmark: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 DDR4 2400 C14 8x16GB vs RipjawsX ...

Based on 2,803 user benchmarks for the G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 DDR4 2400 C14 8x16GB and the RipjawsX DDR3 1600 C10 1x8GB, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 108 RAMs.

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😂

sand agate Aug 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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would a ASUS ROG Strix X470-F be better than the GIGABYTE B450 AORUS Elite

urban ferry Aug 27, 2019, 8:52 PM

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yes

quaint current Aug 27, 2019, 9:10 PM

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usually the better ones has a higher second number

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like 70>50

sand agate Aug 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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ok, thanks

civic narwhal Aug 28, 2019, 4:32 PM

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That's not true

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X470 is a completely different chipset, comes with more features, etc

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The rog Mobo will be significantly better

quaint current Aug 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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yeah x470 is better than b450

urban ferry Aug 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

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good to hear, lol i go switch to my radeon hd 4670

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dog_Laugh

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its like, 3620 better than my 1050ti

quaint current Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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that’s a gpu silly :l

cinder sierra Aug 28, 2019, 9:24 PM

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What would be a good x570 board with 4 fan headers

urban ferry Aug 28, 2019, 9:28 PM

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just get this

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https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-fh-04-black/p/1W8-00JK-00026

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or even this

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811990016

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looks better (so long as ur case isnt glass on the right side) and you dont have to worry about getting a board with x amount of fan headers

cinder sierra Aug 28, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Sweet that works too, thanks!

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Thoughts on gigabyte x570 gaming x?

sharp blaze Aug 29, 2019, 2:02 AM

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The gaming x is a good board if you are looking for basic functionality.

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if you want to step up any higher in price the next best board would be the msi gaming edge at $210

grizzled holly Aug 29, 2019, 7:24 AM

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So if by any chance my parents let me get a 600$ upgrade

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6W7Hvn

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Should I get that or a 3600?

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Because I will be streaming a lot

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Streaming games

naive pendant Aug 29, 2019, 10:32 AM

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I'd definitely recommend the Asus Tuf / Aorus elite for $200 level, if you want better memory compatibility and on-board audio, check out the aorus pro. $300+ each vendor has a pretty competitive offering.

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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@grizzled holly for the purposes of streaming the 2700x will top the 3600

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moar cores (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

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moar threads (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

naive pendant Aug 29, 2019, 3:42 PM

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The VRM on the M9A is one of the very few z270's that would be suitable for a 9700k, or worse yet a 9900k. 150 Amps was about 60C according to Asus EC. I didn't measure manually. https://puu.sh/E9I7j/2d750eb092.jpg

grizzled holly Aug 29, 2019, 10:05 PM

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@urban ferry since I'm getting a 1070 and a 1700x, should I stream GPU or CPU?

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And if I stream GPU, should I switch to the 2600X?

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 10:05 PM

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wdym by 'stream gpu'

grizzled holly Aug 29, 2019, 10:07 PM

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stream using gpu

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the encoder

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 10:17 PM

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stream on the gpu using nvnec

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credit to matt for that response, i honestly had no clue

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and also the 1700x is fine

naive pendant Aug 29, 2019, 10:19 PM

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3600, maybe 3700x. Is the 1700x $100 or something? Why is it being considered vs the 3600

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 10:20 PM

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hes comparing it to the 2600x

dusk jay Aug 29, 2019, 10:24 PM

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What is the difference between x470 and b450

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 10:27 PM

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better power delivery basically

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better for overclocking

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you can still overclock on b450 but x470 has better potential

naive pendant Aug 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit

urban ferry Aug 29, 2019, 10:30 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-small-paper-text-community-gif-5297402

Tenor

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LOL

naive pendant Aug 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Not having a middle click in 2019

ember locust Aug 30, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Guys look at her

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Took me a bit to be able to afford it and get such a good deal on it so yeah

urban ferry Aug 30, 2019, 3:28 AM

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nice!

ember locust Aug 30, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Thanks

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I got it for 330

urban ferry Aug 30, 2019, 3:30 AM

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asus is a very premium brand

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lol

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great products tho

ember locust Aug 30, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Yeah i know it's premium and I'm lowkey mad at the slides about them being better than the competition kinda annoyed me

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But their motherboards are v good

untold marsh Aug 30, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Just got mine in the mail today, but i didn't go with wifi

ember locust Aug 30, 2019, 3:55 AM

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oh nice

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do you have a wifi card?

clever imp Aug 30, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Hey has anyone bought the corsair dominator (2x16gb) and needed to expand by getting the same kit

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But upon doing some research there are multiple version of the same kit and some numbers of people listing issue of bsod from using different version

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What are you suggestion

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Your

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I did shoot newegg a message and they told me to consult corsair specifically

little hound Aug 30, 2019, 12:49 PM

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im building a new desktop pc but id like to use an amd ryzen 5 3400 G processor with a ASrock x570 steel legend WIFI ax motherboard ,Gskill trident z rgb 16GB DDR4 3200 memory and a samsung860 evo SSD .Problemis the onboard grphics drivers are not for linux,mint 19.1 or robolinux. Advice?

oblique steeple Aug 30, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Maybe an X470 or B450 board if you're only using a 3400G and don't plan on upgrading CPU and getting a dGPU later. It'd save you like $100 for not a big difference. Just make sure the board is Ryzen 3000 ready.

little hound Aug 30, 2019, 1:35 PM

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i was looking at the B450 but a person from amd said i would have to change bios and wouldnt be a plug and play . And i do plan on upgrading ,possibly, but the linux issue remains. The graphics drivers for linux using the onboard vega 11

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arent from amd and i dont want to screw up. i could go intel and asus for 50 bucks more ,just thought id give amd a chance

dusk jay Aug 30, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Like @oblique steeple said you can try and wait for a pre updated b450 or x470 board or you can just get a x570 board which is plug and play and idk what linux will do with the Vega 11 graphics

little hound Aug 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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intel build- intel core i-5 9600K ,asus prime z390-a,gskill trident z RGB 16GB,3600 DDR4 memory and a samsung 860 evo sata 6 storage

oblique steeple Aug 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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There's a list of compatible non X570 motherboards

dusk jay Aug 30, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Yeah I saw a list of the best b450 and x470 board for 3000 ryzen

little hound Aug 30, 2019, 1:46 PM

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yes my amd build wad to be with the amd Ryzen 5 3400G but vega graphics dont work with linux . Id like to get the ASrock x570 so i can upgrade later but im unclear about using the vega graphics with linux

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without using a seperate graphics card

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so if i want to have linux mint or robolinux would it be best to go intel ,run a linux os have windows 10 in vm?

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Or how do i get the correct linux drivers from a reputable 3rd party.

oblique steeple Aug 30, 2019, 2:00 PM

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You can still upgrade from X470 of B450, but if you're wanting to try overclocking X570 would be better long run

regal herald Aug 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Heyy, any tips for me? Im considering the Gigabyte Z390 pro, ultra or elite. Which Should I buy?

amber forum Aug 31, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I was looking at purchasing a B450 AUROS PRO WIFI motherboard and an AMD ryzen 5 3600 CPU, and I have been finding conflicting information on compatibility. The gigabyte website says that the mobo can handle the 3rd gen CPU, but I have read online that you might need a BIOS update...? If I'm building a computer from scratch how would I do that?

quaint current Aug 31, 2019, 1:36 AM

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yeah, you would need to update the bios

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:09 AM

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hey guys

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quick quesiton

dusk jay Aug 31, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Yea

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:09 AM

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will MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING X TRIO have proper clearance on
ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:09 AM

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what do you mean proper clearance?

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like will it fit???

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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when mounted into the pci slot will it hiut naything on hte mobo

dusk jay Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Yea I'm confused too

hasty marsh Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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do you mean will it fit on there or something?

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almost all gpus will fit on almost any mb

dusk jay Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Yeah why would it not

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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All GPU's will fit on your motherboard it depends more on your case

dusk jay Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Yeah

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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there is a fan taht vents the m.2 slots taht the card would be right above

hasty marsh Aug 31, 2019, 2:11 AM

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most things regarding size depends on your pc case end of discussion

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:11 AM

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im concerned the GPU would hit the fgan housing

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im putting this into a huge case probably lian li

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or nzxt

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:13 AM

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You know that is deep in the board right

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:13 AM

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what the fan housing?

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im debating between the 2080 or the 2070 super

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:16 AM

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That choice is up to you really

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think what you will be playing in the future and go by that

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:17 AM

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which is more furuter proof

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future

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:18 AM

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2080 is more future proof but really if you are playing at 1080p/1440p any of those cards will do you good

signal lark Aug 31, 2019, 2:18 AM

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4k stream 720p

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will the 5700xt pulse compete with the 2080

celest cradle Aug 31, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Hi everyone, I have question about memory kits. I am currently running a ryzen 7 2700x in an ASRock X470 Master Sli/ac and I am wonder what 2x8 gig 3200Mhz kit will actually run smoothly at the rated speed. I just recently had a Corsair vengeance rgb pro that would run at the speed for a while and then would consistently lead to BSOD. I ran the memory diagnostic on it and it didn't show any issues when I backed the speed down to 3000 but at 3200 it displayed that there were problems right away. Any Ideas? Thanks.

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Consult your motherboard manufacture to see what they tested and works great

celest cradle Aug 31, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I've looked on the manufacture website and it said that, that kit should've worked just fine which is why I am kind of disappointed. I could be that it is just a bad kit.

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Honestly for memory you should always check first with the manufacture for the motherboard if you're unsure

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470 Master SLI/index.asp#MemoryPR

ASRock X470 Master SLI

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen Series CPUs (Matisse, Summit Ridge, Raven Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge); Supports DDR4 3466+ (OC); 2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1; NVIDIA Quad SLI™, AMD Quad CrossFireX™; Graphics Output: HDMI; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Nichico...

celest cradle Aug 31, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Right, I'm just wondering if anyone has a similar set up and would be able to share what they use

lethal belfry Aug 31, 2019, 3:17 AM

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3700X or 9700K?

urban ferry Aug 31, 2019, 3:22 AM

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3700x

quaint current Aug 31, 2019, 3:30 AM

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^

humble heath Aug 31, 2019, 5:58 AM

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@sharp blaze what’s the best board for the i7-7700k

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?

sharp blaze Aug 31, 2019, 6:35 AM

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probably the prime z270-a

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aorus z270 gaming 7

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the maximus 9 is probably the best board, but its a lot of money

naive pendant Aug 31, 2019, 8:44 AM

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M9A is a great board for a 7700k up to 9700k. They go on sale for $60 to $90. I have two.

inland fulcrum Aug 31, 2019, 12:13 PM

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nyone know why when my cpu is idle it runs at the base speed but if i open anything it drops significantly even when i play games too

oblique steeple Aug 31, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I have aorus z270 gaming k7 :D

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Can anyone recommend a good "bang for your buck" mom motherboard for the ryzen 7 2700x?

oblique steeple Aug 31, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Mom motherboard?

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B450 tomahawk would be a good, cheap option

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Motherboard* idk how "mom" got slipped into there lol

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What about a mid price range, around the $125-$150 area

oblique steeple Aug 31, 2019, 6:23 PM

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X470 aorus ultra?

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B450 tomahawk is about $115

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Ultrais like $120-140

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I'll check them out and read reviews on them, thank you!

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 6:26 PM

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You can also look into this if you like RGB https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157868

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lot of people i know uses that one and in a few months i will as well

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:28 PM

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That one looks nice too

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 6:29 PM

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There are always options and also if you don't like micro ATX boards they have a standard ATX one as well

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if you click on the one without the M you will see it

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Gotcha, thanks for the help I'll look into each one a little further

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Oh for the ASRock one i looked into it deep enough that is why i am going to swap my board for it

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can handle overclocking better than what i am using now 😛

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:34 PM

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You said there was an ATX version of that motherboard?

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 6:34 PM

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ya on the link you will see it says B450 Steel Legend

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you click that and it will show the ATX model

harsh plank Aug 31, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Yup, found it. Thanks

dusk oracle Aug 31, 2019, 6:37 PM

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np

naive pendant Aug 31, 2019, 7:12 PM

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is the GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 some sort of replacement for the aorus z270 gaming 7?

regal herald Aug 31, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Anyone here able to help me out with my CPU and motherboard?

knotty helm Aug 31, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@regal herald sup?

regal herald Aug 31, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Hii

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Im dont know if I Should go for the I7-8700k or 9700k

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The 8700 has more threads but less cores

knotty helm Aug 31, 2019, 8:27 PM

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depends on your needs, if you think about streaming, heavy multi tasking, autocad or simple gaming

regal herald Aug 31, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Well its heavy multi tasking, Gaming and editting

knotty helm Aug 31, 2019, 8:31 PM

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id go for the 8700k and just oc it for needs, should be cheaper too i believe yet still fits on the newest mobo gens.

regal herald Aug 31, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Aiight thanks!

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 1:34 AM

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hey guys what is the sweet spot memroy speed for 3700x 3200 or 3600

oblique steeple Sep 1, 2019, 3:14 AM

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3600 CL16

vague lava Sep 1, 2019, 3:55 AM

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ryzen seems to do better with higher speed ram. Linus did a map recently take a look

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:16 AM

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For all of zen2, it depends if you want out of the box XMP performance, or buy cheap Micron Rev.E and OC to 3600 c16

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If you want stuff that can OC to 3600c16 under safe daily voltages / settings, go https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164107

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If you want high bin b-die that can OC to literally anything you'd want in zen2, pick from here https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600006072&Order=PRICE

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:26 AM

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@naive pendant how much memory should i get running a 3700x with 2070 super

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i will be gaming and streaming same time

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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2x8

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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so 32gb overkill?

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Personally, I'd pick up 3200c14 b-die, clock it to 3600c14 ez ez. For $120

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:28 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-TridentZ-3600Mhz-PC4-28800-Channel/dp/B07FKTWKMK/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=3200c14+b-die&qid=1567312115&s=gateway&sr=8-10 ?

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Maybe, hard to say, you could always grab another 2x8 kit. Even if the board's layout follows a "daisy chain" memory topology (favoring 2 sticks vs 4) current AMD mobo memory profiles are porrly optimized according to buildzoid

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:29 AM

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mv, that is 3600

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Is that the memory you plan to get?

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:30 AM

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nto sure i ahve everythign else order

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memory is drivign me nuts

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3700x/2070 super/msi mpg x570 carbon

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Why that board, just curious

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:31 AM

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200.00

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i couldn't finda batter x570

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better

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:32 AM

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x570 aorus elite or x570 TUF, a grade up, aorus ultra,

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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i thought the msi mpg carbon had better reviews

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asus tuff is 199.00

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the aorus is 239.00

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:34 AM

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The x570 gaming pro carbon's 74% and 21% 5/4 egg ratins are indeed impressive

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:35 AM

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so should i stay with tha or look at the ultra

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:36 AM

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I think it'll come down to features, and current user satisfaction with the bios. A lot of GB boards had awful launch bios's. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504 is a good resource to compare features like audio, lan, pcie pots, etc

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:36 AM

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the ultra has 3 m2 slots which is noce

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Check out what's on combo https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos?Item=19-113-567&SubCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=10&page=1

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TBH, most of these options are so close, a $40 discount on a combo can be what steers the decision one way or another

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:42 AM

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i already ahve the proc a firned gave it to me or i would be doinga 9900k build

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Looking for mem + MB then?

signal lark Sep 1, 2019, 4:45 AM

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yeah

naive pendant Sep 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Anything here but the first neo kit is good. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600006072 601203950 600528730&Order=PRICE

narrow iris Sep 1, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Anyone know why my idle temps are at 75c I’m not overclocking either

quaint current Sep 1, 2019, 1:38 PM

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what cpu/cooler? @narrow iris

narrow iris Sep 1, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I got it to work turns out the cooler wasn’t making contact with the cpu @quaint current

quaint current Sep 1, 2019, 3:15 PM

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oh lol

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good thing you found that out

brave cave Sep 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I'm looking for Mobos that are Ryzen 5 3600 compatible out of the box. Anyone know where I can find some?

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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this one is the one i think is the best https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813119197?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-119-197-_-Product

brave cave Sep 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Have you used this Mobo before with 3rd gen Ryzens?

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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no i have a FX cpu lol but it is not to expensive and is good

brave cave Sep 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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No issues with the BIOS?

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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why?

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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that board will not have any bios issues

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it is ready with the 3600 out of the box

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:38 PM

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i just realized on my pc build i didnt account for tax

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i did big dumb

brave cave Sep 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I'm sorry I really need a peace of mind. I heard some people were saying to go for a B450 instead of a X570 if I am not using the PCI e slots, but B450s are not Ryzen 3rd gen compatible right out of the box

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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yeah i think x570 is the best thing since shrimp fried rice

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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just needs a bios update

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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x570 is the easiest method

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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and most expensive too

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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not necessarialy

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there are boards for $160

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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not good ones lol

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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they are plenty good

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:41 PM

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its really good and has cool VRM's

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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only board im interested in is the x570 strix and its 300 lol

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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hold on

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144261?Description=x570 gaming edge wifi&cm_re=x570_gaming_edge_wifi-_-13-144-261-_-Product

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:43 PM

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that is a good board

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:43 PM

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omg the lack of vrms lol

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:43 PM

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whaaatttt

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:44 PM

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my crappy asrock gaming x x370 has 12 phase lol

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and its 135

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im a overclocker so gotta have atleast 10 phase

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will most likely wait for 10th gen intel and get the new stuff

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:45 PM

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imma show up first day of school with this shirt https://bitwit.tech/store/ah-rgb-everything-black-t-shirt

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urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:45 PM

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well when youre looking for a pc with a tight budget, you cant really be too picky about that kinda stuff

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:45 PM

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my favorite system was when i had a i7 4770k

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:45 PM

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yeah sometimes you can get all the RGB lol

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i usually just save up my money like ima do for my 2560 x 1080 ultrawide

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either that or a 2560 x 1440 32''

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:47 PM

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yeah ultrawide is cool

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:47 PM

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i had an ultrawide, and hated it D:

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i just prefer the more conventional 16:9

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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yeah some people dont like them idk if i would cause i have never gamed on one

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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theyre great for productivity and all

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but i dont do productivity

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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lol for gaming i only want 1920 by 1080 no lower no higher

jovial iris Sep 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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they're good for simracing

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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1440p would be nice, but eh

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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i dont like 1440 or 4k

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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why

jovial iris Sep 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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1440p is good

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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i push 3k when i play vr so theres that coolandgood

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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i want to be able to not totaly see the pixels but not have them be too small so i use 1920 by 1080

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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whaaatttt

thorny gate Sep 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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my ps4 pro looks awesome on my tv at 4k

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wish i had a 144hz 4k monitoir tho

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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i can see all my pixels on my 1080p monitor

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i also sit like 3 ft away froim it

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from*

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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PhilSwiftBigHeadmin

urban ferry Sep 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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and thats without my contacts in

dusk jay Sep 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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i have terrible eye sight but no glasses

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made my new emoji philswiftmin

cinder sierra Sep 1, 2019, 8:39 PM

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So i installed my tuf x570 pro, and while posting it gets stuck on vga

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Nevermind lol, fixed it

limber warren Sep 2, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Anybody know when the red devil 5700 xt is gonna be back in stock?

coral bear Sep 2, 2019, 4:52 AM

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you have a microcenter near you? i got mine from there when it wasnt available online

limber warren Sep 2, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Not really but there’s one in New Jersey I think

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Thanks

limber warren Sep 2, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Nevermind, there’s one in sunset, that’s perfect

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*Sunset park

past ibex Sep 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Hi, pretty frustrated here trying to find a ryzen 3000 motherboard for my build. It wouldn't make sense to purchase a mobo that's more expensive than my cpu, which is a 3200g , so I was wondering if you guys could recommend any budget mobos to use. I don't have an old cpu to update bios and newegg says that they cannot flash bios for me. Thank you.

oblique steeple Sep 3, 2019, 6:23 AM

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B450M DS3H

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@naive pendant

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@past ibex https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-b450m-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144195

full folio Sep 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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I would question that one since it only has 2 memory slots, but you could dump 32gb in there and it wouldn't care so I guess it doesn't matter than much

oblique steeple Sep 3, 2019, 6:31 AM

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when you're looking for a sub $100 board that doesn't need to be flashed, it's hard

past ibex Sep 3, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Ty zovyra, can you confirm that it doesn't need to be flashed? Like I can pop in a new cpu and it'll work fine?

oblique steeple Sep 3, 2019, 6:33 AM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

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i think so

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not sure, ask someone like @sterile flicker

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😛

past ibex Sep 3, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Ok, tyvm!

full folio Sep 3, 2019, 6:34 AM

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so is this as good as i think it is or is it a POS?
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157869?Item=N82E16813157869

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 6:52 AM

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b450 gaming plus / b450 tomahawk are very popular and feature bios flashback.

rich sun Sep 3, 2019, 8:49 AM

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I have a question, I have a 3200Mhz 2x16GB kit of ram, but in windows task manager says it's only 2400Mhz speed

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Both at idle and Load it gives me the same 2400Mhz

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Enable XMP.

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is it 3200c16 ballistix sport? And what cpu/mobo

fair idol Sep 3, 2019, 9:13 AM

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yeah you have to enable XMP in BIOS

rich sun Sep 3, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Ahhh

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I'm using a Ryzen 5 3600 with an Aorus B450 Elite mobo

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And yeah it's a ballistix sport kit

rich sun Sep 3, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Alright, I was able to set it to XMP

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Thanks for the help!

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Never use the ds3h

oblique steeple Sep 3, 2019, 5:27 PM

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@naive pendant elaborate

devout mothBOT Sep 3, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Señor_Shingle#9658 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Uts a terrible board it's so terrible that I refuse to help anyone who has it because of how much of a headache it is

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I've seen that board reject xmp, as well as have like 50% of the bios settings just straight up missing

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In the 4 experiences I've had with that board, I've come to the conclusion that it was literally made by satan

hazy oxide Sep 3, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I like the new X570s

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Eh

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 7:16 PM

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the best x570 is the crosshair viii impact

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to be released later this month

hazy oxide Sep 3, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Yeah

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ASrock x570 Taichi is good aswell in my opinion

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJ8vLJ this is my third custom pc

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Sold my last 2 to get money for it

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 7:52 PM

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did you build it already

hazy oxide Sep 3, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Nah

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Still need some $

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Gotta start collectin

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 8:17 PM

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go for the impact if its bios is good

naive pendant Sep 3, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Don't troll

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Haha $1k build right?

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Nice picks all around, but I'd go with different memory. Decide if you want $120 "can do anything you want it to" or "$75what everyone (including senor and I - and buildzoid )say to use with ryzen on budget builds.
Good stuff
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164125

Great stuff
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600006072&Order=PRICE

dusk elk Sep 4, 2019, 12:04 AM

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my mobo has 8pin and 4pin for cpu can i use two 4+4s by using half of one of the 4+4s?

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Yes

blissful dragon Sep 4, 2019, 12:54 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsT1ghY7By8

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▶ Play video

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im confused

shy wyvern Sep 4, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I'm kinda new to post '95 hardware, is it normal for overclocks to become unstable over time?

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 1:06 AM

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No, but some users choose to run their chip near its limits knowing that the $250-$500 cost for thousands, maybe tens of thousands of hours of effective use are acceptable to them.

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Well, actually there are many reasons , say dust accumulates - cpu gets hot- crash.

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:08 AM

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hmm so any RAM recommendations for a 3900X? should i try to find some 3200mhz b die and overclock it to ~3600 or just find something already at 3600 like trident z neo?

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preferably RGB because i'm that kind of person...

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@copper solar no intel :l

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:10 AM

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your loss cool_and_good

copper solar Sep 4, 2019, 1:10 AM

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SataniaEvil

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:17 AM

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low cas 3200 like you said or just like a cl16 3600. personally I would do Cl16 3600 and tighten timings

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@shadow seal Why would you choose 3600c16 vs 3200c .. 14? or ? It's much more difficult and less likely to yield stable results.

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:33 AM

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really depends how much work you wanan put in to the overclock

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so I leave it up to that person. I dont really care for overclocking much anymore

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time vs results

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:34 AM

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i can spend time tuning it

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:35 AM

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well, cl 14 3200 ram is almost always going to be b-die. cl 16 3600 could be hynix. if its hynix you will mostly likely not get any more out of the ram.

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but not all b-die is epic. mine will go to about 3600 at xmp settings but I cant get the timings any tighter than 16-16-16 without some serious voltage.

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even at 3200 it wont go tighter than cl 16 without 1.45v

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:38 AM

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so should i get a 3200 14 and up it to 3600?

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:38 AM

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how much work you wanna put into it

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if alot than 3200

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if little 3600

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:38 AM

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hmm

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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or just blow the budget and get some 4000

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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lmao

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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5000 or bust

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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no, not for ryzen

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hes putting a 3900x on it

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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she

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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oh my bad

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I run my 4000 at 3600 cl 14

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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sorry

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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it's fine lol

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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cries in 2400mhz

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:40 AM

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xD that's what i have rn

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:40 AM

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theo_cat_arms

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:40 AM

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tweak that 2400

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:41 AM

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id overclock it if i didnt have a laptop

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:41 AM

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I feel like from what ive seen fiddling with ram on ryzen is really..negligible performance gains between 3200 to 3600

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:41 AM

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I have some cheap micron 2400 that will do 3000

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depends on what you are benching

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cinebench wont change much

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some games love it, some games could care less if you have 3000 or 4000

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:42 AM

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i'll probably go with 3600 16, a bit more expensive but less hassle i guess

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:43 AM

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whats the general consensus of 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 memory?

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I might get some of the new aorus 3600mhz ram when it come out

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:43 AM

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oh yummy

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:43 AM

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i didnt know gigabyte was making ram

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:43 AM

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aorus ram looks so cool

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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i might depending on the cost

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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got a picture?

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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i'm doing a mostly aorus build

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I have the 3200 now, thats the b die

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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📎 2018070211185838_big.png

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Its not been released in any pictures or even any announcements that I know of yet, but it is coming.

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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StarEgg

limber mango Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Sexy ram

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:44 AM

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its on amazon it looks like

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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whats nice with the aorus ram is that they have 2 dummy sticks with rgb on top to make it look like a complete set

📎 71BuBCHTjdL.png

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I actually like its design. neat 😄

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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the latest bios for the z390 and x570 boards support Aorus memory boost which will bump your ram from 3600 to 3733 on an aorus board

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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yeah it is nice

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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for example if you buy 2x8gb, they will include 2 extra sticks in the package to make it look like a complete set

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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ooo even better

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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but the dummy sticks have no function other than pretty brainlet

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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212 for a 16 gig kit. ouch

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:46 AM

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but only with the aorus ram which isnt available yet

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:46 AM

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i'm planning to do a x570 master and 3900x or 3950x if i'm feeling like shelling out an extra $300, so maybe i'll get that aorus 3600

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zack shush

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"intel!"

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:47 AM

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youll have 4 times the core count as i do if you go with the 3950x lol

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:47 AM

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well the initial release was overpriced and since they didn't make a lot of it, it didnt drop in price when the rest of the ram came down. hopefully the new stuff will be a bit more comparable

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And the master is a great board

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I love mine

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:47 AM

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yeah i've heard a lot of good things about it

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:48 AM

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master so pretty

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 1:48 AM

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when Royals are cheaper than aorus ram o.o

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:48 AM

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trident z royal is so ugly D:< you cant change my mind

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:48 AM

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only wish it had the 90 degree connectors like the xtreme, but its hard to make that fit on a standard atx board

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and $800 is a lot to spend on a motherboard

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:49 AM

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yikes 😬

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I think if I was going to spend that much I would just do a threadripper build

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or x299

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:50 AM

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speaking of which

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144225?Description=x299 creation&cm_re=x299_creation-_-13-144-225-_-Product

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what do you think about that board?

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:51 AM

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it reminds me of something from an anime

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but I cant think of which one

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:51 AM

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LOL

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lets ask theo

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:52 AM

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i was a guy that could attack with crystals out of the ground

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:52 AM

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@copper solar what anime would this motherboard be from

📎 unknown.png

dusk oracle Sep 4, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Infinite Stratos

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:53 AM

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kinda makes me think of suzaku's mech from code geass

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idk

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but that's too colorful

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:54 AM

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might have been sailor moon

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I havnt watched that in like 20 years

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:57 AM

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ive never watched any anime

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lol

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:57 AM

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🙀

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https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

Tenor

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:57 AM

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oh well

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:58 AM

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hmm

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anime is good if you watch good anime

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:58 AM

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you havn't lived until you have watched all of bleach, including the filler episodes

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:58 AM

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bleach ew

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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its like 400 hours of your life, what else are you going to do with all that time

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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study

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graduate college

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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MINECRAFT

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MINECRAFT

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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those can wait until you finish all the anime

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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MINECRAFT

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:D

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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no spamming

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:00 AM

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D:<

copper solar Sep 4, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Idk I don't watch anime

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:01 AM

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brainlet

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:01 AM

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you have to experience all of Tenchi's adventures

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 2:01 AM

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i need to continue konosuba xD

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:02 AM

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There is so much anime, and so much bad anime. Its hard to pick something to watch sometimes

limber mango Sep 4, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Honestly I've just been reading what everyone was saying without saying anything

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:03 AM

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I keep telling myself I need to finish Inuyasha, but its been like 10 years since I stopped watching it and I just dont have the time to invest watching it from the beginning

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:03 AM

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D:< i cant use r twice

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haha i still need to finish super mario galaxy but i dont have time to start from the beginning

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Last time I watched a long anime was bleach. I had knee surgery about 7 years ago and wasnt allowed to bend my knee or drive for 11 weeks so I binged all the episodes that were out since I was pretty much stuck at home.

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after about 100 episodes I was bored but felt to invested to stop

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:06 AM

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ouch

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ive only ever had surgery on my tonsils because they were swelling or something and i couldnt breathe D:<

limber mango Sep 4, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I got mine removed when I was like 1 year old

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I had mine out the summer after 6th grade, I think I was 12.

limber mango Sep 4, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Sounds about right

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:08 AM

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i dont remember when mine were

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all i remember is that i never want to have to get an IV ever again

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that thing scared the crap outt me

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outta*

oblique steeple Sep 4, 2019, 2:08 AM

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i hate needles

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:08 AM

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same

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i hate them so so much

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I was afraid of needles until I became a diabetic

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after that you have no choice

limber mango Sep 4, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I hate the fear that it might accidentally killing me

copper solar Sep 4, 2019, 2:09 AM

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squirtle

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:09 AM

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its all built up in my head, i know it isnt that bad when it actually happens but i still bellyache about it anyway

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MOOOOMMMMMM I DONT CARE IF I GET THE FLU I DONT WANT A SHOT

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although this one time they had a flu shot replacement where you just basically sniffed up this nasal spray, and that was a lot easier

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:11 AM

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I didnt want to give myself my insulin and my mom jammed the needle in the side of my arm as hard as she could and told me to get over it or she would do it that way until I started doing it myself. I was 18 at the time so I was old enough to no be afraid of a shot.

urban ferry Sep 4, 2019, 2:11 AM

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😬

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:12 AM

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I find i usually get sick more when I get a flu shot

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if I dont ever get a flu shot i never get sick

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:13 AM

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90% of it is anxiety from the anticipation that its going to hurt.

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:14 AM

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best way is to just look away. and breath out as they stick you. you wont feel it because your concentrated on breathing out

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:14 AM

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the first few times I gave my shots I couldnt look, but by the 3rd or 4th day I was over it

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:16 AM

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on a 3600x with pbo enabled, should i still be getting temps upwards of 50c with a drp4

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:17 AM

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seems good to me, my 2700x goes up in the 60's on a custom loop

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:17 AM

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interesting. ok cool. i was just curious because on my 2600x it was getting 30-40

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on idle

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:18 AM

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50C at idle?

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:18 AM

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43 right now

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:18 AM

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are your voltages and core speeds dropping down when idling

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:19 AM

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yeah, ryzen master says its around 2 ghz but over 1.4 volts?

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1.43 constantly

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:20 AM

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you have one of the b450 aorus boards right?

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:20 AM

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i got a x570 with the 36000x

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3600*

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the asus tuf plus

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:20 AM

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auto settings?

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:20 AM

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what do you mean "autp"

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i didnt do any manual overclocking, just enabled some things

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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yea. its gonna volt higher on automatic overclocking

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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when you idle the voltage should drop to around .7 or .8 volts

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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the voltage is the same

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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are you on balanced or performance in windows?

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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performance

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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performance will force your clocks higher longer

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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but its idling?

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:22 AM

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doesnt matter

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thats what performance does, keeps it in a higher state at all times

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:23 AM

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i dropped all the way back to best energy saving and the voltage hasnt dropped at all

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:23 AM

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is it using like 1 core at a high clock?

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:23 AM

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temps are down to 40c, but its also only 4% utilized

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no they are all in the mid 100's and occasionally one or two wont be running at all

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:25 AM

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unfortunately I dont know enough about the new x570's to know what to toggle to remedy that

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:25 AM

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alright, thanks for trying

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ill go look in the bios

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:25 AM

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thats my guess

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that or it got stuck. that happens sometimes

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put the load to balance afterwards and see if it normalizes if everything looks fine in bios

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:28 AM

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the voltage is locked at 1.43 in bios but it says its on auto

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:29 AM

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damn

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:29 AM

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i know right

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"auto" XD

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:29 AM

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usually auto will flux but thats alot

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Yeah

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:30 AM

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1.43 is normal for load on a ryzen cpu, but something is keeping it from idling properly

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:31 AM

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i still think performance mode got stuck

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and wasnt allowing voltage to drop back down

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or try toggling off auto and putting it back to auto

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in the bios

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Toggle what

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:32 AM

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do you have an option for cool and quiet in the bios

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:33 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190903_203327.jpg

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Cool and quiet?

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:36 AM

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I dono Im stumped. im past my knowledge of how to fix it until next year when i get a x570 board

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Hmm

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:37 AM

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but try the balanced mode in windows and see if the voltage drops

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having performance mode on and changing it sometimes doesnt change the setting right away

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:38 AM

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seems to be an issue with the bios on those boards

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:39 AM

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its that or having to manual volt to see whats stable =\

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:39 AM

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found a thread on reddit and seeing other people having that problem

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quotes from the thread

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jep, mine is under load and idle @1,4xxxV and the clocks of my 3600 droped down form 1002 (4,2) to 1003ab (4,125) to 1003abb (4,075). Thanks AMD!

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voltage once again is stuck around 1.43 to 1.47v all the time.

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I have the same issue with my 3700X. Voltages around the same range from 1.43 - 1.46. Cores sleeping on and off in Ryzen Master and my core speed is always around 4.2 GHz according to CPU-Z. Latest chipset drivers and power plan set to Ryzen Balanced.

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:40 AM

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so bios glitch

sharp blaze Sep 4, 2019, 2:40 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cpgt73/new_bios_for_asus_tuf_gaming_x570_plus_wifi/

r/Amd - New BIOS for Asus TUF Gaming x570 PLUS (WI-FI)

28 votes and 46 comments so far on Reddit

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a few people said updating to the new chipset driver from amd fixed the idle temps

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:52 AM

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No, chipset driver didnt fix it

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Dang

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 2:53 AM

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bummer 😦

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notes to stick with Gigabyte

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 2:59 AM

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i thought about getting the aorus pro, shoulda XD

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I guess keep a look out for bios updates from asus and other updates

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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yup

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Im sure it will get ironed out eventually

cinder sierra Sep 4, 2019, 3:04 AM

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yeah, hopefully soon

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thanks guys!

shadow seal Sep 4, 2019, 3:04 AM

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np man

normal bison Sep 4, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Welp I'm a dumbass

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Protip: Don't assume X570 will have USB-C front panel, that's far too much to expect on a $200 motherboard

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Could somone help me with motherboard issues?

arctic dome Sep 4, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@wooden dawn GET IT, GIRL

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I kinda unplugged wires and have no idea where they go

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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check your motherboaard manual

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I was curious and board and didnt take pictures

arctic dome Sep 4, 2019, 8:23 PM

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LOL

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that's a bummer, yo

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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kekbomb

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Dont understand it

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📎 20190904_163519.jpg

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📎 Screenshot_20190904-163754_OneDrive.jpg

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@arctic dome btw if ur still up to help me.

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:41 PM

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📎 unknown.png

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Yes

arctic dome Sep 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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the cable connectors should have labels

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Power led+

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Power led-

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:45 PM

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what do you mean

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theres more than just those 2

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:45 PM

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H.H.D -+

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:46 PM

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look at the picture i posted

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wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Done those 2

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:46 PM

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then your computer will turn on

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the rest aren't really necesary tbh

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:47 PM

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But H.H.D -+

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:47 PM

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what about it

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Id like them there for sake of mind

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Where do I put it?

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Ty

naive pendant Sep 4, 2019, 8:49 PM

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its literally labelled right there on the board dude

dusk oracle Sep 4, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Even if it wasn't the manufacture website will have a pin layout manual

wary solar Sep 4, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I have bad eye sight

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Srry

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Also dumb

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Bad eye sight+being dumb=?

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 2:53 AM

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If you're currently using that machine, wanna run a userbenchmark.com and send us the link? @stark perch It'll streamline the help process

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 2:54 AM

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im currently on my msi laptop..

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 2:56 AM

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No problem, what's the motherboard model? The memory sticks have speed, timing, and voltage settings stored on their own internal memory, the motherboard will read that and run them as such.

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 2:56 AM

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i just needed to know if i completely remove the tridents for all new ram, is timing motherboard specific

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its an msi mpg z390 gaming plus

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Probably not, but timing can vary between two sets of "trident z" since there are 30?+ countless varieties of trident z

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 2:58 AM

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literally everything on the laptop is corsair except the video card and motherboard, those are msi

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 2:58 AM

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That said, if you have two 2x8 kits with different speed and timings, you often can run all 4 - the board will just clock the faster ram down to the lower ram's specs. Same for timings, but it might take some playing with bios settings.

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 2:58 AM

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i might get corsair cards

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why i was asking

frail furnace Sep 5, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Hey peeps. You guys know of a relatively straight forward way to search for boards which have the front I/O for a USB 3.1(aka 2) Gen 2? My google skills are failing me

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 2:59 AM

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oh na i would remove the tridentZ cards i have now and add 4 corsair cards

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my ocd needs corsair haha

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ordered an msi gaming monitor/corsair keyboard also. sooooo the g skills are thowing me off haha

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:00 AM

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This is just a pedantic difference in terminology, but people usually call RAM sticks "DIMMs" , "sticks", "memory modules" , etc GPU's and other cards = cards

quaint current Sep 5, 2019, 3:00 AM

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they would run at the slower speed if you combined kits

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unless they are the same timings

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:01 AM

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no combining kits sir

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or ma'am

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4 corsair cards

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all corsair

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new

quaint current Sep 5, 2019, 3:01 AM

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then they would run at the same speed and what they are rated at

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:01 AM

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As for a recommendation for what 4 dimms to get for a z390 gaming plus, what budget, use case, any other preference other than corsair?
what cpu? the userbenchmark thing will help us give a recommendation

quaint current Sep 5, 2019, 3:02 AM

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unless ur oc’ing them, and you have to enable xmp to get them at rated speed

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:02 AM

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i9-9900k, no budget

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i ran it on system requirements lab and it said its top of the line lol. in all the extreme and enthusiast categories

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:03 AM

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TBH, I'd just recommend some 3200c14 4x8 or 4x16 depending on your choice.

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:03 AM

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im not sure what ill do with it.. i game, have designing software and im starting to think about writing code

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would 3200c be a noticable upgrade from 3000?

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:04 AM

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no

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32gb of ram should be more than enough for most usages, i would get rgb ram like trident for asthetics

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What model trident z do you have

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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ddr4-3000 8gbx2

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cl16-18-18-38 1.35v

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i ordered two more of them last night off of newegg

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i love the rgb, but like i said, my ocd is killllllin me haha

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Got it. Yes 3200c14 sticks are far superior - you can overclock all you want - like 4133c17 etc, but 3200c14 is very good on it's XMP

But - "Will the difference be noticeable?" maybe, That's up to you.

quaint current Sep 5, 2019, 3:08 AM

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^

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:10 AM

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📎 image0.png

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pic quality is crappy

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im just one of those "i want the good stuff" kinda ppl lol

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Pick your aesthetic preference from this, can't really go wrong https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600083963&Order=PRICE

stark perch Sep 5, 2019, 3:13 AM

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just trying to figure out if its worth getting an rma and returning the cards i just ordered and selling my buddy the 8gbx2's that i have for some sweet led corsairs ha

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oh wow but those g skill royals

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ah man

shadow seal Sep 5, 2019, 3:32 AM

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so is there no word on gigabyte releasing a 3600 kit of their ram?

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 4:46 AM

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3600 with what timings? Are you planning on getting it?

shadow seal Sep 5, 2019, 4:48 AM

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well we spoke about the gigabyte kit. idealy a 3600 cl 16 kit. But I havent found anything about it, just the 3200 cl 16 b die kit

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Ah, I just saw your earlier reply. If the goal is to run at 3600c14, I'd definitely buy 3200c14 and OC vs 3600c16 and try to set manual timings. 3600c16's IC can be one of 4 or 5 different memory chips. 3200c14 is almost always high bin b-die.

shadow seal Sep 5, 2019, 5:33 AM

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I mean. gigabyte doesnt have a c14 kit...so

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c16 or bust

dusk oracle Sep 5, 2019, 6:20 AM

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@naive pendant Which one should i get this one https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331284
or this one https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331026

naive pendant Sep 5, 2019, 7:03 AM

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If you have to pick between those, pick what looks best to you. They're probably using identical memory IC's inside.

dusk oracle Sep 5, 2019, 7:16 AM

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I like them both that is the problem

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also it is for when i replace my motherboard with the ASRock Steel Legend

sharp blaze Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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the Aorus 3600 kit hasn't been officially announced yet. It could be a few months away still

tepid zinc Sep 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Sup

proud widget Sep 6, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Yo

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:10 PM

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ok, so I have a small problem (it's not MY PC, mine's wonderful) I am gettin a CPU spike to 100% loading firefox. but memory is only at about 70% is there a way to fix the CPU spike?

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:18 PM

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what cpu do you have

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:20 PM

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lemme check, it's a mono-core though

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I don't know that exact model off the top of my head

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AMD Sempron 140 http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Sempron 140 - SDX140HBK13GQ (SDX140HBGQBOX).html

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@cinder sierra ^

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yeah that is a mono core single threaded processor. what does it idle at?

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:27 PM

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between 9 and 24%

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:29 PM

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what does it idle at with firefox open

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:30 PM

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that is with FF open

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:30 PM

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what os?

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:30 PM

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7

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:31 PM

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i have noticed when i open applications it will spike up a bit and then settle back down

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so i believe its ok, is it throttling at all?

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I have too, but never a 100% spike tnad no it was just turneed on, I could take my monitoring tools to the PC, but I don't know what the motherboard supports as far as sensors

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:37 PM

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no, but the ipc on that is probably not the best and its a single core, single thread, so it runs the os and launches every app, its proabbly going to bottleneck

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:43 PM

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no likely way to mitigate that in some way other than waiting?

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:45 PM

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my recommendation would be to get a better cpu, you can get a dual-core for around 60 bucks and i would at least go with that

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:46 PM

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the owner doesn't way to change anything, tbh. I offered my old i3 and got declined

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:46 PM

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they dont want to change anything?

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:46 PM

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no, she's a bit pesky (it's a family member's pc)

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:47 PM

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ah ok. well... so she just wants a cheap fix without sacrificing something?

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she could try overclocking depending on the mobo and cooling, and if the cpu can even overclock

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it wont help a ton, it is a really basic processor

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=am3+processor+dual+core

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like i said, i think its time to upgrade.

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:49 PM

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"While the Sempron has only one core, it's in fact a dual-core Athlon II processor with one core disabled" <interesting...

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I'm gonna tinker some in the bios LMAO

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:50 PM

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lol go for it

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i dont know much of anything that far back

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I'm betting that some features are enabled by default I can disable and fix too lol

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:51 PM

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its definitely possibole

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:51 PM

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it's a good thng I come to talk, I learmn new stuff every timer I wander into the "I need help" realm LMAO

azure yarrow Sep 6, 2019, 6:56 PM

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FML @cinder sierra

📎 JPEG_20190906_135536.jpg

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:56 PM

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it's the most basic Bullshite bios

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:57 PM

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yuuuup XD

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oof

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 6:57 PM

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well.. so much for that LMAO

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it's not even got QNQ on the bios

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 6:59 PM

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XD

clear locust Sep 6, 2019, 7:09 PM

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it's all yer fault @cinder sierra

cinder sierra Sep 6, 2019, 7:11 PM

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XD yuuuup

urban ferry Sep 6, 2019, 7:30 PM

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@azure yarrow my laptop has that bios too dog_Laugh

dusk elk Sep 6, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Can I oc this ram to 3800, 16-16-16-32 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232856?Item=N82E16820232856&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FMFdrxr%2Fgskill-trident-z-neo-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c14d-16gtzn&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-DgfYNtOHdlOkKuzHgCGqpA

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:11 AM

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On what system? on a 3900x / x570 crosshair 8 hero or x570 master or better?

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:11 AM

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it's the x570 crosshair

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Likely not, but that's just hard to do on any system.

Rather - yes you could, but not at safe voltages, and definitely not on AMD at ambient temp + safe voltges

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Explain everything I'd ever need to know when building a pc

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please

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:13 AM

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/s?

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:13 AM

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?

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whats that mean

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no

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no sarcasm

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:14 AM

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What's your currentparts list looking like

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLWfMZ

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I'll mostly be gaming and doing school work

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:15 AM

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first off you need a cpu

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:15 AM

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im awarre

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3950x isn't out yet

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:16 AM

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why do you need a 3k build for school wuuut

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:17 AM

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i dont, but i'll play games too

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the school work is primarily for my business practicum

oblique steeple Sep 7, 2019, 2:18 AM

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😁

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Oh. Business.

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I’d say drop the ram to b die 3200mhz cl14 and just increase the voltage

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for like half the price

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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but does the same potential

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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yeah within 1%

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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ok, and the temps

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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higher speed ram is usually just binned better and higher volts

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:20 AM

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This was the build I had recommended based on the info @dusk elk provided me about their preferences and use case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/BigEndianEnergy/saved/v68whM
Key point - just my personal recommendation -
a few components are 100% up to preference like case, RGB etc

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:20 AM

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u shouldn’t have to worry about ram temps

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:20 AM

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ive heard it affects ryzen 3000

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:20 AM

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only ram speeds

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and it makes less than a few percent faster and like a frame or two faster

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Ram temps matter, but it's easy to keep them cool enough unless you live in the desert and are allergic to good case airflow

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Ram speed *can matter - a lot
It can also have < margin of error impact

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It depends on use case

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But it's wrong to make a blanket statement stating either

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Just like certain users parroting things like "Ryzen likes fast memory" or "240hz monitors aren't worth it, you can't get framerates that high"

quaint current Sep 7, 2019, 2:22 AM

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for gaming and school I’d say not a lot

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compared to rendering and productivity

oblique steeple Sep 7, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Is that targeted at me @naive pendant

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:23 AM

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adobe premiere, photoshop are included in my school work

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:23 AM

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@oblique steeple No, why?

oblique steeple Sep 7, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Nuffin xD

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Move along

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I do 3d rendering aswell for my 3d printer

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Elaboate about the type of school work, what program for 3d rendering, e.g. "solidworks projects with 2300 parts , sometimes near 5000"

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1000 parts is a good point for 32GB

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:26 AM

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then 32gb it is

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:30 AM

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The crosshair Viii Hero - C8H is a daisy chain board - and while it does favor a 2 stick config, either 2x16, 4x8, or 2x16 now - 4x16 later should all be fine. I'd personally go 2x16 3200c14, clock to 3600 , for 1:1 and call it a day.

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Key point - many chips struggle to hold >1800MHz FCLK on <1.1V SOC

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It's my understanding that current x570 bioses have poor memory profile support for 2x16 kits, but that should only improve.

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Alright

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:39 AM

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2x16 might struggle on x570, but it will be more stable than 4x8 in almost all situations

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on a daisy chain x570

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:39 AM

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what is a daisy chain x570

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how do i even know if my board is

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:40 AM

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daisy chain is the way the memory is wired

strong wadi Sep 7, 2019, 2:40 AM

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It's wired in a ring, right?

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:40 AM

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daisy chain preferes 2 slots, t topology prefers 4

strong wadi Sep 7, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Ah

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:42 AM

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There are plenty, but the C8H they intend to get is daisy along with every Asus and GB x570

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:42 AM

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the ch7 was, but I haven't really looked too much into the x570's to see if any are

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:42 AM

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MSI and Asrock have T top boards - I think, but if so, not many

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I still want to know everything on pc's, anywhere i can go

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Anyway, while happy to explain my thoughts on the nuances of all this, much of it is not critical when just picking parts for the type of build you described.

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:44 AM

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I have never owned a t topology board.

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I just want to know as much as possible

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:46 AM

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all of my boards I have been limited by the memory controller on the cpu so it wouldnt matter anyway

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:46 AM

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For general PC hardware reading, check out both forums and tech review sites like
Displays : sites: rtings, tftcentral forums:blurbusters
Overclocking : forums: overclock.net , hwbot,

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modding: both the EVGA and ROG forums, Aorus and MSI as well - but many more for in depth - higher level stuff
bios modding: winraid,

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:48 AM

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My most recent intel cpu's are 6th and 7th gen and both wont go past 4000mhz, and struggle beyond 3800. And my ryzen builds are both 2000 series so they aren't getting that high either

dusk elk Sep 7, 2019, 2:48 AM

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cool, i'm gonna go and absorb what i can

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Most z390 Intel boards are T top. Two of my z270 and my only z390 are only dual DIMM boards lol so 🎉

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:49 AM

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maybe whenever I get a 3900x I can push my ram

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:49 AM

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For PSU reviews: Anything by this guy https://www.tomshardware.com/articles/?author_name=Aris Mpitziopoulos

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There are a ton of sites, and reviews on sites (even like toms hardware) where the individual reviewer for x product like a PSU , memory kit, or mobo isn't nearly enough of an expert to test the product in meaingful ways

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:51 AM

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I like johnny guru for psu testing

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:52 AM

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He's good, IME Aris is better

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:52 AM

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but johnny guru sometimes goes weeks or months without a review

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I want GAN FET totem pole topology to come to 750W-1200W range PSU's.

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:54 AM

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buildzoid is great, but he can get a little too in depth for the average joe

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Sometimes I have to pause his videos and look stuff up

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:55 AM

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The tech wasn't available when the 1600T2, and it's siblings were designed, but I'm still an EVGA fan.
Hope the 1600T2's next gen wil

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:57 AM

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I have a G2L. Couldn't afford a platinum or titanium at the time I was building a few years ago. Its turned out to be a great power supply though

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 2:58 AM

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I like BZ as well, talk to him semi often

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G2L?

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 2:58 AM

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I don't forsee me needing beyond 850W anytime soon

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evga 850 G2L

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its a rebadged superflower

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Leadex with the weird clear connectors

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Must be new, the old G2's were all Leadex

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Gold, GT , GTX, plat etc

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I have had it for almost 3 years

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Oh, same unit as the 850G2 + LEDs?

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:02 AM

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https://www.evga.com/articles/01050/evga-850-750-g2l-power-supplies/

EVGA

EVGA - Articles - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 and 750 G2L Power Supplies

The unbeatable performance of the EVGA SuperNOVA G2 power supply line is now available with LED lighting in the new G2L versions. These units feature 80 Plus Gold rate efficiency, and clean continuous power to every component. The ECO Control Fan system offers fan modes to pr...

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I think its the same internals, but they literally just put their own housing on the superflower design instead of using the black modular connectors

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:04 AM

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A ton of EVGA PSU's use the same cabling pin-out - GQ is one of the exceptions, though the CPU power cable is the same

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I'm using T2, G3, and GQ cables in my current bench setup lol

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I have a GQ as well

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Its a 750W I think, but its powering a pentium and a 1050ti so its a little overkill

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I don't, but I have the cable because Amazon warehouse T2 850 came with a "variety pack" of cables

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Unlike the current dogma, I think there can be valid reasons to buy an "overkill" PSU

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I bought it on sale to have as an extra

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ended up swapping it into my itx build since my case can fit a full atx psu

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:08 AM

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https://puu.sh/Eb5rX/9cf1fff994.jpg

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I also have one of the rosewill hive power supplies and its not horrible so far

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:09 AM

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The new refresh of that , also branded from microcenter, isn't nearly as bad as the old one

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Par for a budget psu afaik

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:10 AM

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not sure which revision it is. I got it on a newegg sale

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https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-hive-series-hive-750s-750w/p/N82E16817182133?Item=N82E16817182133

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the cables are not as nice as my other power supplies, but its good enough for my 6600k

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:12 AM

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That's the newer one, same as the Highpower Direct12 Bronze II it's good normal LLC DC-DC

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:12 AM

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It was on sale for soemthing like $40 on a daily deal so I impulse bought it

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:12 AM

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None of that group regulated fire hazard suprise party

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I have done the power supply fire party before, its not fun

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 3:15 AM

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I bought an 850 G3 used - ex miner cheap off ebay to play around with and test, I want to show what can go wrong when people cheap out on PSU or mobo for certain setups

sharp blaze Sep 7, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Mine was a cheap chinese 1000W power supply. I ordered it from tiger direct many years ago when i was still running my core 2 quad and sli gtx 470s

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I didn't plan on running it for long since I was going to build a new system, but ended up using it for a while. It had 3 12v rails and this was back when 5v and 3.3v still accounted for a decent amount of the total power. I just dont think any of the 12v rails were quality enough to run those 2 gpus.

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I had them on seperate rails, but the voltage would dip down under 11v under a heavy load, then one day flames and magic smoke came out

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lost the motherboard and a stick of ram and a hdd

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But I saw it coming and was too busy with work at the time to use my PC much so I just never bothered to do anything about it.

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Wolfdale era I bought and still have a Corsair HX620 that has some god awful problems now and dimms the lights when I run it. Need to look into that

harsh plank Sep 7, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Ryzen 5 3600 vs ryzen 7 2700x? Mainly for gaming, maybe a stream every once in a while, thoughts?

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 5:11 AM

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3600 by a mile

harsh plank Sep 7, 2019, 5:28 AM

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And a b450 tomahawk for the mobo?

regal herald Sep 7, 2019, 12:47 PM

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Hii. Any suggestions for ram for a Z390 motherboard in combination with Intel i7-9700k?

limber warren Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@harsh plank if ur gonna do any overclocking it might make more sense to go with a newer more expensive board, I’m not sure with the new bios updates (which I’m honestly not even sure there were) but I believe Ryzen 3000 processors tend to undershoot their boost clock a bit on older or lower end boards

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@regal herald do u already have the 9700k?

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Anything on the top list would be great if you don't know what to get, especially if you want to OC
That second link is just a good deal for any build, can also OC well
$120+ https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600006072&Order=PRICE
$72 https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164125

harsh plank Sep 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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@limber warren I don't plan on doing any overclocking, but I've been seeing that the tomahawk and ryzen 3000 series have some issues with the bios updates

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Also what's a good x470 board that I can match up with the ryzen 5 3600?

nocturne heath Sep 7, 2019, 8:58 PM

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@harsh plank if you don't need wifi or all the bells and whistles, the MSI x470 Gaming Pro is pretty solid. Not 100% sure if it's compatible w/3000 series though

versed charm Sep 7, 2019, 9:21 PM

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can anyone here help me out? I am looking to upgrade my cpu because on my streams and games my frames are unconsistant and I believe that my cpu is cauing me to botteneck my computer

harsh plank Sep 7, 2019, 9:21 PM

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@nocturne heath I'll take a look at it, thank you

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Wanna run a userbenchmark? Helps show you got running now

versed charm Sep 7, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Ive ran a Benchmark actually

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anyone ?

naive pendant Sep 7, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Sure

nocturne heath Sep 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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@harsh plank happy to help, hope the build turns out how you want it

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 12:40 AM

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so

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motherboard

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for a 9900k

urban ferry Sep 8, 2019, 12:43 AM

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dog_Laugh

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dog_Laugh

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evil_kermit do it https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119156?Item=N82E16813119156

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 12:45 AM

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firethink

urban ferry Sep 8, 2019, 12:48 AM

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or maybe this one

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145089?Item=N82E16813145089

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Z390 Master?

urban ferry Sep 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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lol im just recommending expensive boards

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fit for the 9900k theo_evil

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 12:57 AM

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z390 ultra/master would be my pick. The $500 boards are worth it if you really like overclocking.

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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hmm

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i'll probably just go with master

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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The ROG boards are fine if you don't plan to OC much or just bios preference

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 5:14 AM

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hmm so what would be some good memory to pair with 9900k

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Anything here https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600006072&Order=PRICE

copper solar Sep 8, 2019, 5:22 AM

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3400 @oblique steeple

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02YAY

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 5:23 AM

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@dawn bronze any more details?

copper solar Sep 8, 2019, 5:25 AM

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GWvictoriaMeguFace

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 5:26 AM

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3400 is an awkward speed, not many kits set there on XMP, 3600c15 is a very high bin though.

copper solar Sep 8, 2019, 5:26 AM

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4200!

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DO IT!

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9_Yay

oblique steeple Sep 8, 2019, 5:27 AM

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3

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3MHz

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 5:28 AM

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4300!
https://puu.sh/EeILW/651ef3d5b1.png

tidal marsh Sep 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Ryzen 5 2600 with ASUS X470-F Gaming Motherboard, Opinions or Suggestions?

naive pendant Sep 8, 2019, 6:39 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157885 easy

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Or go b450 gaming plus / tomahawk like the rest

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If you want more upgrade headroom go aorus pro,
better yet, here's the list
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos?Item=19-113-569&SubCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=10&fromcs=0&bcmTag=0&Page=1

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:13 PM

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So I have a 2x8 kit of 3200 ram and it runs fine with xmp profile 1. But sometimes (not every reboot) my ram will reset to 2400...

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I can fix it by rebooting and manually setting it, but that's super annoying

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:16 PM

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My computer straight up doesn't even turn on sometimes, unless I reset the CMOS

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:16 PM

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should i try that?

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i may as well

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Reset your CMOS?

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It might help

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:16 PM

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yeah

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:17 PM

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What's your PSU?

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:17 PM

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600w corsair cx from 2017

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I mean, it may even be possible that you need a better PSU?

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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like, wattage?

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Yeah, I have a 750

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Nah that's definitely not the problem

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the ram works at 3200, but it keeps resetting to the default 2400

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:19 PM

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What's your mobo?

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming x470

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Could be a BIOS issue... maybe check if Gigabyte has any BIOS flashes that fix compatibility or issues with certain processor combinations

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Because that's certainly a possibility

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:21 PM

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it's the most recent bios

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Did you try rolling back?

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Was it working fine when it was out of box?

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I'm not sure because I didn't check with ryzen master like I am now

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It's new ram from HyperX

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from after my mother board was released, so maybe there's not compatibility issues? idk

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Did you try running it at lower speed?

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Tuning the ram to XMP profile 2 and clocking it at 3000 MHz

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XMP profile 2 should be what allows the RAM to OC to 3200 MHz, but if you bring it down to 3000 and it's stable and doesn't change by itself, that may be as far as your processor can handle

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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it is stable though

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I've done gaming and rendering, everything and it's fine

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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If the BIOS is forcing default values it may not be

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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it's just resetting

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but it's forcing default values on certain reboots not all

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and if it's not stable that's stupid cuz they're brand new and meant for 3200 xD

devout mothBOT Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Zelkin#1736 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Well, Ryzen processors kind of have bad memory controllers

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So that's a thing too

urban ferry Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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whaaatttt

glad turret Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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idk much about the memory controllers on 3rd gen

civic narwhal Sep 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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it's 2nd gen

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2600x

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 12:06 AM

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tl;dr what kit did you recommend?

hasty marsh Sep 9, 2019, 12:19 AM

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lmao

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Oh, hey what's up kenny, didn't notice since I have compact view on, doesn't show pictures.
When the ram resets to 2400, does anything else reset in the bios? Rare, but could be a cmos battery issue.
Could replace that.

More likely, I'd guess random bios issue specific to one or more versions, I'd start by checking the OCN and Aorus forum threads for "x board owners thread" , additionally the Aorus discord.

proud widget Sep 9, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I've always wondered what Cores felt like.

lucid lagoon Sep 9, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Which CPU would have the best smell?

proud widget Sep 9, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Id imagine that AMD would smell like cinnamon while Intel smells like peppermint

upbeat creek Sep 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Is the 8700k worth it on 2019, I can get it for $280?!

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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its still a good cpu

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:05 PM

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new?

vivid dagger Sep 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Does anyone have any insight into the differences between Corsair Vengeance RAM and G.Skill Trident 7 RAM? I've only ever really looked at buying corsair ram, but I'm wondering if G.Skill offers more bang for my buck.

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I personally like Gskill as a company

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as far as any huge difference is debatable

vivid dagger Sep 9, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Ok. I'm looking at getting either the Trident Z DDR4-3000 or the Vengeance RGP Pro DDR4-3200. Both have a CL of 16

urban ferry Sep 9, 2019, 11:18 PM

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vengeance rgb pro would be better

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in terms of performance

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i think

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 PM

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only thing to look at is type of chip maker

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like who produced the memory modules

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as far as speeds. the 3200 would be better

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 PM

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What cpu/mobo/gpu? If the build is at least $1500 the best choice is likely the 3200c14 kit of your preference

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

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arent c14 kits expensive though

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Ya, $72 gets your great 3000c15 Rev E, b-die is $120 2x8 these days

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I post deals quite often, maybe we'll look into deleting or archiving some of the clutter chat in there

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:21 PM

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oh. I thought maybe 20% higher..nope almost 2x the price XD

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Ya, even on a $600 system I'd try to get the 3000c15 ballistix sport kit + 3600 + $80 b450 and hope for the best.

vivid dagger Sep 9, 2019, 11:24 PM

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@naive pendant I have an I7-9700K, MSI z390 gaming edge, and a GTX 960

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:24 PM

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just grab the 3200 imo

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I agree. I actually daily'd a 9700k with 3200c14 flarex the last few months. 9700k's IMC isn't usually as good as those on the 9900k, but at XMP settings, it's irrelevant.

vivid dagger Sep 9, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Idk what IMC or XMP is.

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:26 PM

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memory controller and XMP is extreme memory profile I think

vivid dagger Sep 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

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I'm not fully fluent in tech talk lol

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

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at stock ram settings once set to 3200 xmp you wont see anything major

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

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XMP is like an "auto" memory overclock. It's safe and universally recommended unless you have compatibility issues.

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Which on that setup, would be improbably.

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:28 PM

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they should rename xmp...its not really extreme anymore

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Intel's affinity for "extreme" branding doesn't bother me a bit compared to ROG.

vivid elm Sep 9, 2019, 11:35 PM

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AORUS Xtreme anyone? 😛

naive pendant Sep 9, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Haha that kind of stuff makes it harder to search for said product on ebay/craigslist among other things. I bought a z390 aorus xtreme cheap on ebay auction , my bet is that most searched for "extreme"

shadow seal Sep 9, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Mega RGB overdrive memory profile

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though their extreme stuff isnt so extreme anymore XD

empty mantle Sep 11, 2019, 3:35 AM

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popping in because my MOBO took a crap on me, anyone got a recommendation for a mobo that is compatible with a ryzen 7 and ddr4 ram?

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 3:40 AM

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ASRock B450 Steel Legend

empty mantle Sep 11, 2019, 3:42 AM

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appreciate it.

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

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@naive pendant Let's move this here.

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