#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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little jasper
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That's a lot of damage

urban ferry
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there we go

quaint current
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but that case is like twice the price

urban ferry
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oh he likes full towers

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keep in mind we are doing a full custom loop

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gpu and cpu

quaint current
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yeah that could fit a 420 and 360

urban ferry
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hed do ram too if thermaltake made their water ram in the capacity and speeds he wants

quaint current
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ok no thats stupid

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it doesnt help

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people have tested it

urban ferry
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yes but he doesnt care

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it looks cool brainlet

quaint current
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see all the tt cases are like $200

urban ferry
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and

quaint current
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the o11 did everything that they can do for half the price

little jasper
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I still think what your dad is doing is slightly beyond the realm of some custom built home pc...

urban ferry
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that wont stop him

little jasper
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Build a 2k gaming computer, use the other 3k for AWS server costs

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He'll be so much better off

quaint current
urban ferry
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but just imagine

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TT custom loop water cooling inside a TT case

quaint current
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:l

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just use ek

little jasper
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This frightens me a bit lol

urban ferry
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but

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looks so good

quaint current
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just put it in the o11

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its not that hard

urban ferry
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the o11 is so boxy

quaint current
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its a case

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:v

urban ferry
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its gonna be under his desk keep in mind

quaint current
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ok then you pick the case

urban ferry
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ill still consider the o11 dynamic

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but it seems just so generic

quaint current
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thats not a bad thing

urban ferry
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oh another concern is hard drives

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he has like 4 i think

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yeahhh, the o11 only can fit 3

quaint current
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:l

urban ferry
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second one

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unless youre just gaming

lethal belfry
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im doing 3d renders of autocad and gaming so prob the 3700x

urban ferry
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yep

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3700x is the way to go

quaint current
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^

lethal belfry
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i just pulled the 3600 because i was able to fit a better mobo and cooler

urban ferry
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just dont overclock

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the stock cooler for both of those do a great job

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unless you want to overclock

lethal belfry
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alright ill get the 3700X one then

urban ferry
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just dont forget to add thermal paste

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to the list

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i saw the ryzen 5 list had it

lethal belfry
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Thats because the cosair cooler does not have thermal paste already on

quaint current
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7 3.5" slots and can fit 2 420's

lethal belfry
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but most if not all ryzen stock coolers have it pre applied

urban ferry
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the stock coolant on the stock coolers isnt really all that great

lethal belfry
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i mean why not

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its only six bucks so

urban ferry
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yeah

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nice find @quaint current

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ill probably go with that one

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its practical and looks good too

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oh wait that thing is friggin expensive lol

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still a good case theo_smelling_fingers

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lmao it has a wireless charger built in

timber jungle
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Corsair dominator Vs Trident zskill.... GO

naive pendant
lucid root
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what is a good amd cpu for streaming for under 120

agile mason
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I’d go for the newest generation of amd chips if I were you, just whichever matches your budget best

naive pendant
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Used 1600

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Best idea, get a $200 3600 + something and get $20 off combo

agile mason
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I agree

lucid root
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oik

agile mason
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But btw if you’re really serious about streaming you’re gonna want to spend the extra $ on a ryzen 7 cpu

naive pendant
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3700x certainly gives a bit more benfit over the 3600, it's really just 8 cores vs 6, the max single tread is a few percent, a few more percent with a big cooler.

timber jungle
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Best of each... against best of each

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3000+

naive pendant
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Budget? Also, cpu, mobo? Lastly, do you want something that's very plug and play, no fiddling with settings? Or top of the line stuff that can be tweaked for peformance

timber jungle
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No budget...

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And for me... i9-9900k and ASUS z390-e

naive pendant
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Do you need 16 or 32 GB total? 32 won't be able to clock as fast, but not a huge issue.

timber jungle
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Need... 16... going with 32.... because why not

naive pendant
timber jungle
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Just trying to spark more conversations...

naive pendant
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4133c17 is pretty chill though, I can push 4000 c13 for bench, or 4000c14 for daily

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Haha what do you mean

copper solar
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i wish 4000+ was cheaper

naive pendant
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Buying 4000+ is usually kinda silly

copper solar
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BuT ItS FaStEr

naive pendant
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The thing is, the highest bin samsung sells is 3200c14 for b-die, other companies can bin themselves though.

timber jungle
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Anything over 3200 is really ehhhh

naive pendant
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Do you mean the ram as sold by it's XMP rating? Or actual clock in use

timber jungle
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Actual use..

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I have 3000 right now... and don’t see the need to upgrade... yet... lol

naive pendant
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probably not worth it, what latency kit?

cinder sierra
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ive heard c16 is pretty good, is that correct?

quaint current
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@naive pendant what kinda voltage u got those running at?

naive pendant
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Which? I run 1.45 daily, but could probably go lower. I'm on a frankenstein build rn though, on the z390 dark, 1.4v easy for 4133 17 18 18 28 1T 2x8

cinder sierra
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So i got that dr4p on my 2600x, am getting around 40c at idle. that sound reasonable? i was previously getting 50s and 60s with the spire

naive pendant
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@cinder sierra Yes.

cinder sierra
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awesome. now to see what it looks like on prime95 lol

naive pendant
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Prime 95 AVX and or small fft is an absolute worst case scenario tewst

jolly gust
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Any word on the Tomahawk MAX release date for MSI? I'm planning on getting that and a Ryzen 3600... But if it's gonna take too long I might just go with the Tomahawk and a 2600

naive pendant
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Which is fine, but you need to interpret the results as such

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e.g. if I get 95C in prime 95 AVX, then I know I'll hit maybe 80C max in themost demanding of games, which is fine. It's the upper limit for my setup and preference, but fine.

cinder sierra
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what would be a more ideal test if i will be gaming on 1440p

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gaming benchmarks?

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@naive pendant

naive pendant
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Prime 95 is fine. I use aida64

cinder sierra
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ok cool. i remember hitting 91c on the spire

shadow seal
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So i wonder how long its going to take for stock vs demand of the 3900x's to normalize so it doesnt sell out in 3 hours each time theres a shipment

timber jungle
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2-3 more months

fair mantle
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so im trying to buy ram off of newegg im not sure what the difference is between the sdram and dram?

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aight thanks

naive pendant
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SDRAM is old stuff. You're probably looking for DDR4.

fair mantle
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well yeah ddr4 but theres one that says just dram and one that is sdram

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no difference in price or anything just that name

naive pendant
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The name on that page is the only difference. Wouldn't worry about it.

fair mantle
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so should I go with the DRAM then?

naive pendant
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Post the link.

naive pendant
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Or the link to your build and description of your use csae if you want a memory recommendation

naive pendant
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Yep, those are the same kit CMW32GX4M4Z3200C16

copper solar
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hah i have the same board

fair mantle
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ok weird with the naming

naive pendant
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Important part is 4x8 3200 c16 Corsair vengeance - that's what you'd usually call it

fair mantle
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Thanks man been trying to figure out what the difference is and it got me all confused

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@copper solar How do u like the board?

naive pendant
fair mantle
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Im pairing it with the i9-9900k, any issues with that, that I would be looking at?

naive pendant
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If you want better, you can get better, but otherwise, no

fair mantle
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Everyone wants better lol but I can only stretch my budget so far

naive pendant
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Definitely. If you're just gaming I'd go 2x8

fair mantle
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I'm planning on doing gaming and some video editing as well

naive pendant
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The board is wired T topology to 4x8 is fine too.

shadow seal
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if video editing I would go 32

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its not really much more expensive to go with 32 gigs now

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as long as its not like c14 or Royal ram

naive pendant
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That is a very cheap 4x8 , probably because it's on sale

fair mantle
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Yeah that is cheaper, 80 dollars for rgb basically im a sucker for rgb plz dont judge lol

naive pendant
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Nothing wrong with that at all. The kit you linked seems great to me if you want RGB.

shadow seal
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dont look up c14 trident royal 32 gig kits with 4 sticks than >.>

fair mantle
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lol

naive pendant
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Royal's heat spreader just looks dumb imo

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Even I would maybe buy some trident z rgb

shadow seal
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its rgb effect is probably the best out there though

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the new Neo is cool for ryzen though

naive pendant
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Why for ryzen?

shadow seal
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its tuned specially for ryzen

naive pendant
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How?

shadow seal
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they have a special kit thats like c14 3800 that keeps the 1:1 infinity fabric timings

fair mantle
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oh man that looks crazy

shadow seal
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bascially unheard of. Normally you can only keep 1:1 with 3600

naive pendant
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Lol, that still means fclk has to run 1900MHz

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Which is very hard to do on 1.1V SOC, have to get lucky, even with a 3900x

shadow seal
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the performance numbers on the neo are pretty crazy good

naive pendant
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Oh, 3800c14 is definitely super high bin memory, I don't doubt that at all

shadow seal
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ill stick with my silver royal c16 cuz thats expensive and looks cool XD

fair mantle
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so these 3200 corsair on my board do i have to overclock them to run at that speed or is that something it does stock

naive pendant
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Just enable XMP and they should run 3200 c16 no problem

shadow seal
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nah. there should be a XMP profile that will auto the timings for you

fair mantle
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ok thats good to know cuz if i had to do the timings manually that would be a problem

shadow seal
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its not the tightest timings, so there more performance to squeeze but its the best out of the box

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might be a calculator out there somewhere

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for intel

naive pendant
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Can't be worse than the ryzen dram calc

fair mantle
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now I just need to decide on a GPU

shadow seal
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cant go wrong with a 2080 super or 2070 super. depends on your resolution your running

copper solar
fair mantle
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i want to game and video edit in 4k

shadow seal
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4k is tough. your looking at the two highest skews than

fair mantle
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the 2080 tis are crazy expensive

shadow seal
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yeeep. such is the cost of gaming at 4k with decent frames

fair mantle
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are those basically the only cards that can game at 4k? 2070 dont?

shadow seal
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2070 I can only recommend for 1440p

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2080 might be ok

naive pendant
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What monitor? If you're just doing 4k 60 you can get by with less. Even more so, what games?

fair mantle
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I dont care much so for the frames as long as I get 60 at least

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I play mainly Destiny 2, some sport games

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Tomb raider as well

shadow seal
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hmmn. well 2070 super might be okay. i dono how future titles would fare

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2080 super would be fairly safe

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we probably have like 2 more gens of graphics cards till 4k becomes what 1440p is now

fair mantle
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yeah that sounds about right i guess, well i guess I can sleep on it and decide in the morning lol

shadow seal
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i just dont wanna shoot too low and scre you over on cards for the next like 2-3 years

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er games

fair mantle
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yeah no I understand I when u spend so much on one item u want it to be future proof for a bit

shadow seal
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and Im thinking about the next gen consoles could bump graphics again

fair mantle
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I just want something that I wont have to switch out in the next 3 or 4 years if im paying over 500 for a gpu

shadow seal
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willing to bet a 2080 super would be safe than honestly

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specially if they improve DLSS r w/e it is that down res and sharpens to improve frames and not lose quality with the RTX series

fair mantle
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yeah I was thinking super as well. I read that ps5 will be about as powerful as the rtx 2080

shadow seal
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interesting

fair mantle
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clocking the gpu at 2ghz

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thats the rumor at least

shadow seal
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than yea. probably super would be safe XD

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might as well since they are phasing the standard 2080's out

fair mantle
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alright man, thanks for the help everyone who chimed in, I am going to go to bed.

shadow seal
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yep yep. sleep well, happy to help

young blade
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So

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Itx

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Am4

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USB 3.2 type c (type E connector)

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Anyone?

arctic dome
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I don't think you're gonna find any 3.2 headers right now. I haven't really looked but I don't think adoption is very high currently.

urban ferry
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beardy speaks mouth

arctic dome
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LOL mod trainee.

urban ferry
urban ferry
quaint current
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o I’ve got that mobo

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Doesn’t have a 5v 3 pin header tho

shy wyvern
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Do people actually seek out good motherboards? Most of them do the same thing. I've never put much thought into my motherboards

sharp blaze
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depends on the features you need/want

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I usually buy something close to the top end

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more I/O, usually better sound, more fan headers, more m.2 slots. and if you are into overclocking then better vrm and pcb design.

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the average user probably doesnt need it though

coral charm
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I have always gone for the better of motherboards, unless on a super tight budget build, the motherboard is often your key to upgrades too. If you plan to have your machine for awhile, get a motherboard you know will be able to support what you want to do.

cinder sierra
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so i have the aorus b450 pro wifi and i was wondering if i got a 3600/x would it be able to supply the power it needs to automatically overclock itself?

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i dont mind the bios update

sharp blaze
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yes

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the b450 pro should be good up to about a stock 3900x. A 3600x should be no problem at all.

cinder sierra
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so it would be ok with xmp enabled with the 3600x?

sharp blaze
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xmp is for the memory, do you mean precision boost and xfr

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either way the answer is yes, pretty much all the b450 boards use a 4 phase vrm design. I think there is one asus and maybe 1 or 2 msi boards that arent 4 phase. The vrm on the b450 pro should be good especially if you have an air cooler on the cpu that will keep some air moving around the vrm

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it was fully capable of running a 2700x @ 4.2ghz in the tweaktown review, and a 3600x is much more efficient than a 2700x

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most of the reviews I have seen show the 3600x with pbo only drawing around 80W

cinder sierra
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Awesome! thank you

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thats my future upgrade

sharp blaze
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here is a handy guide for reference

cinder sierra
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oh yeah i should be more than ok

sharp blaze
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if you look at the very top the catagory that the b450 pro wifi falls into for overclocking would be a 3800x/3700x

naive pendant
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That chart overestimates the capability of some x570 boards IMO, but it's extremely hard to make a tier list that long "perfect"

cinder sierra
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yeah so im more than ok, sweet

sharp blaze
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ya I questioned some of the 4 phase asus boards

naive pendant
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Eh, 4 phases in itself doesn't automatically mean bad VRM

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Like, the entire Asus z390 line other than the Apex, Extreme, gene are all 4 phase I think

sharp blaze
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I know its basically an 8 phase but still not sure it would be good with an overclocked 3950

naive pendant
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They just run two power stages in parallel to each output on the voltage controller

sharp blaze
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and I havnt looked at all the msi boards so I dont know much about them

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and only seen a few reviews on the asus boards like the strix f and the hero

naive pendant
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B450 pro 4 for a 3600x?
edit, nvm, aorus

cinder sierra
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huh?

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@naive pendant

urban ferry
naive pendant
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You plan to put a 3600x in your b450 aorus pro, right? seems fine to me

urban ferry
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(ive been wanting to use that emoji lol)

cinder sierra
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yeah

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thats the plan

naive pendant
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Is there a big difference between a xeon x3440 and x3450 to where one would work in a mb, but not the other?

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No, but knowing intel, they could just firmware lock it.
The chips are nearly physically identical.
Would have to check board/bios qvl

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Ah ok, thanks. I was a bit disapointed when a new budget rig of mine didn't fire up. Cpu-upgrade lists a 3450 compatible, but not a 3440

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first gen i7's are a ton more expensive and don't overclock as well i'm told

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But that'd be obvious

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I appreciate you taking a look. I went ahead and ordered a 3450 and i'll cross my fingers. It was only $15, but i was jw so i thought i'd ask

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Gotta love ebay.

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absolutley!

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the gigabyte mb i got for this build came in looking brand new

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What'd you get again?

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Gigabyte ga-p55a-ud3.

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i was going to do an overkill build with a 1080ti and 9700k but i kept losing auctions at the last second lol. so this sounded like a fun project

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Retro-ish builds are interesting. You should post progress pics.

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i have a few pictures

pliant lantern
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i don't mean to interrupt but i need help

naive pendant
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shall i dump them here, or is there a section?

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The build pics channel is kinda just for the stream showcase, I'd just do it in this section

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ok

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Or build chat, ?

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ill stick 'em here i guess, just a couple

pliant lantern
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i just got an asus b450 mb can someone tell me how to update the BIOS?

naive pendant
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Sry don, i'm not ignoring u, I'm not sure. I'd just look around youtube, but im not a lot of help with amd stuff

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PSU is a little sketch, no?

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I did cheap out there 😂

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You bought that new? haha

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i looked around for a decent 600w one for the gtx 770 and overclock. found that thermaltake with decent reviews

pliant lantern
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i went there and it gave me a CAP file now what lol

naive pendant
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yeah i didn't trust any of the garbage psus i have laying around. old oem ones

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its thermaltake. $45 on amazon

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You're probably fine, the reviews aren't that bad. Nothing in there sucks a ton of power.

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oh darn. "do not buy"

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😬

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I prefer PSU's to have color coded cables honestly. Makes it harder to make mistakes.

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yea i mean the reviews were ok. i am trying to cut costs on this old build

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A nice 7 year warranty, no worries at all PSU could be as low as 60 AR

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yeah. oh also this doens't have an 80+ cert. lol

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500W is all you need, even 450

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ah alright. the guy who gave me that 770 said get at least a 550w because its power hungry. but he's embellished before 😂

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The first and foremost priority is the quality of the unit itself.
You can get a more/less powerful unit than your rough target based off what's on sale.

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Ah, i see. So perhaps, for example, a seasonic focus+ 500w may provide more reliable power than a thermaltake tr2 600w ? lol

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reliable / more stable output

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Definitely, it's not that cheap units are overrated, they just often can't afford to
include features like over-temp protection, under-voltage, over power, etc.
e.g. even the cheapest of cars can go fast enough to make a crash hurt.

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lol yeah

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my problem is being cheap, and also doing a build based on saving money

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maybe when my house burns down i'll spend the extra on an 80+ gold. lol. kidding

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Haha ya, depends how much you value reliability and piece of mind.

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A cheap PSU can certainly cook the rest of the PC if the right diode shorts etc

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I hear what you're saying. Lately i've been ending up reselling my builds to try and form a "side-hustle" but it would be good to at least have an expensive psu to swap to my main rig as i go

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then again, I don't want to go too cheap on a psu and put anyone at risk. so far the 2 builds i've sold had a corsair cx750, and another which i don't remember (decent one)

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I bet you could get something for $60 or less that'd be far safer, could just return the TR

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if you know one off-hand, i'm interested. you don't have to go out of your way

naive pendant
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oh wow lol, a focus like i mentioned. i'll keep that one in mind for the next time. 450w should be ok for overclocking and a gtx 770?

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It's on the low side, but it's miles better than what you have according to some internet stranges

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nice xD thanks for helping me out

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770 takes about 250 w absolute max in furmark. CPU/mobo rest , probably <100

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ohh alright!

rich yarrow
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Hey, so I’m wanting to upgrade my CPU and mobo. I currently have a Threadripper 1900X CPU and a X399 Mobo, and I now realize I’ve basically wasted the money on Threadripper when I could have payed a but more for a much better performing Ryzen. Should I just hold off and purchase a 3900X later as well as a new Mobo? I do a fair bit of astrophotography and make compilations with hundreds of photos for a single scene... that and I also wouldn’t mind a boost in gaming performance on the side.

sudden coral
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What AMD CPU runs well with the RTX 2060?

copper solar
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2600-3900x

sudden coral
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ah okay

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AMD is cheaper so wuuut

timber jungle
naive pendant
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64 threads. jeez 😂

young blade
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so

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I'm shifting form factor down to itx

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and I'm looking at the h210

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which has a "type e" connector

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and I currently have a 7700k

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and my choices are either to get a used strix z270i off of ebay and hope

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or

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go with the 3700x and potentially way overpay for the Impact VIII, which is the only sff amd mobo with that connector

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your thoughts?

ancient whale
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Or any other ITX AM4 mobo. Do you need/want the type-c port?

copper solar
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@naive pendant figured out what caused it to under perform, turning off asus multicore enhancement and switching to xmp 2 instead of 1. my programs opening immediately now instead of a few seconds.

shy wyvern
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Ew asus multicore enhancement

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I'mma barf

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🤢

arctic dome
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Shouldn't have used asus.

copper solar
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@arctic dome please shutupchris

arctic dome
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HATE SPEECH

dusk jay
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no not really

arctic dome
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Oh thanks for clarifying, big brain.

dusk jay
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i was only stating a fact

urban ferry
arctic dome
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And now I remember why I don't come here. Self important white Knights.

dusk jay
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i find this a very helpful server and love it very much

arctic dome
urban ferry
copper solar
urban ferry
arctic dome
dusk jay
cinder sierra
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lol bought my drp4 and my 2600x was already boosting to its max XD so it did nothing for performance

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just runs cooler

wise gulch
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Is the b360m mortar for Msi any good?

pliant lantern
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can anyone tell me why my MOBO is only running my ram at 2133 and not 3000?

dusk jay
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omg i have had 3 people with the same problem this week

pliant lantern
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i have a rog strix b450f gaming MOBO and i updated everything even the BIOS and when i set it higher than 2133 it becomes unstable

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any ideas what the problem is?

dusk jay
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sorry

naive pendant
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Have you enabled XMP in bios?

jolly gust
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Might be a dumb question but can the rgb headers be used for case fans?

trim whale
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So let’s say with my budget I’m not able to get the Ryzen 2700X? What would be some other options?

copper solar
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@trim whale 3600 is like 9% faster than the 2700X and cheaper.

trim whale
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Like right out the box or after over-clocking?

dusk oracle
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Right out of the box

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OC could be like 15% faster

copper solar
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out of the box.

devout mirage
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So have you guys ever had a bad motherboard where it will turn on and runa game for like 30mins and then shut the whole computer down?

copper solar
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thermal shut down sounds like it @devout mirage

devout mirage
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Ok, I got a new psu, and it still happened. Everything immediately shuts down with now reset or anything, just black screens, and the boots back up like 6 seconds later

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I have 5 fans in my pc, I have the cams software and my cpu and gpu both run at a steady 40-50 degrees C @copper solar

copper solar
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hmm @devout mirage

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specs/part info?

devout mirage
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would it be to my advantage to take it to a computer repair place (not geek squad) and have them run a diagnostic?

copper solar
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you could prob diagnose this yourself

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i'd run a stress test to see if it does it again on load

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mobo sensors could also be messing up and doing emergency shut down if cpu temps spiked up randomly

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bios update may fix it? may not.

devout mirage
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intel i5 9400 F
MSI MAG Z390 Tomahawk mobo
Corsair CM750X PSU
MSI 1050 TI GPU
Master Coooler EVO 212 CPU fan
and Corsair Crystal Series case x570

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I already did a Bios update and it didn't fix it. how do I run a stress test?

copper solar
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well for cpu, prime95 is pretty good at heating up cpu

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it's free too

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for gpu that's free uhhhhh

timber jungle
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Not usually

copper solar
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heaven benchmark is okay, furmark is okay, i like the paid 3dmark stuff

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prime95 is pretty good at heating up if you wait a while

timber jungle
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Office Depot is in trouble right now because they showed fake viruses on your PC for your free checkup

copper solar
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also since you said it does shut down after about 30 min

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nothing is overclocked or altered right?

timber jungle
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30 min shut down... overheating? OC?

copper solar
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i'd say run optimized defaults in bios and hope for best if you did change anything

timber jungle
#

Reseat ram, double check all plugs... with a new PSU, make sure the plugs are in right.. and What Theo said... reset bio to default

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Bios default fixes a lot of crap

copper solar
#

does the pc freeze before the restart?

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like looping sound and frozen screen or is it just a complete shut down

devout mirage
#

Its a complete shutdown

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no warning or anything

copper solar
#

well you can try cpu stress test and monitoring temps

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gpu stress tests too

#

i'd reset cmos on motherboard to make sure there are no weird settings

devout mirage
#

ok for sure, I ran a CPU stress test and nothing happened

copper solar
#

make sure to re-enable xmp for your memory tho

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it takes a while run it for like 20 min

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and watch the temps

devout mirage
#

nothing is oc'd either, it's all stock

copper solar
#

not exactly sure what to tell you D:

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if cpu stress test doesnt crash you after 20 min then its prob not cpu

#

same with gpu

#

you could try repairing windows

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but i doubt its that

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sfc /scannow in admin command prompt

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if cpu and gpu and repair doesn't fail it its one of the older components of your pc

#

like you said, may be your mobo

#

this could usually tell you whats under performing and show signs of degradation

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by comparing performance average

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just make sure you're not running anything else

devout mirage
#

Ok I will after gpu stress test. Nothing yet and its running at 67C as the highest

copper solar
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prime95?

devout mirage
#

Yes and the FurMark test too

copper solar
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hmm

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is it ONLY during games ?

devout mirage
#

Well, it happens sometimes during video editing or something that causes a lot of stress on the pc

copper solar
#

could be faulty memory too

devout mirage
#

but the stress tests aren't doing anything to it :/

timber jungle
#

Reseat ram...

copper solar
#

if you press start and type memory test it should pop up the windows diagnostic

timber jungle
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Test 1 stick at a time

copper solar
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and it will restart your pc

devout mirage
#

ok I can do that through furmark?

copper solar
#

huh??

devout mirage
#

Ok I’m running the test on the memory now

copper solar
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ok good luck

devout mirage
#

Honestly I hope it ends up being this because this is honestly the most annoying thing ever.. especially since it’s so hard to pinpoint what it could be 😦

copper solar
#

yeahhhh its a tough thing to troubleshoot

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if you're using a surge protector or multi-outlet type deal you could try changing it or trying a diff outlet to see if that helps

devout mirage
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Ya especially since this is my first pc build so it’s all really new to me since I originally gamed on PS4 and switched to pc 4 months ago

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I do use a surge protector and tried plugging it straight into the wall outlet and it didn’t fix the problem

copper solar
#

mmk

devout mirage
#

Could it be that I don’t have windows activated on my pc?

copper solar
#

D:

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maybe

dusk oracle
#

If you're using 10 i doubt that would be the problem

devout mirage
#

I have windows 10 but for some reason it keeps telling me I need to activate some windows thing and when I try to it says I need to buy it for $110 off the store D:

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Well, the only old things on my pc is the gpu and the psu so I’m not sure if the gpu could be causing the shitting down problem if it’s not overheating. And I know the psu is good

fallow spire
#

Did you buy a key from Microsoft/official retail store that gave you a disc?

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If you bought it off eBay or such it may be invalid

devout mirage
#

No, that’s what I’m saying I don’t have. Could that really be the problem for it randomly shutting down though? And no, I have never bought a key so there’s nothing to even be invalid

fallow spire
#

All it does is lock personalization features currently and put a water mark, but if it bothers you that much but it

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No

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Not 10

devout mirage
#

Ok, well then that’s not the problem. It doesn’t bother me that much tbh.

fallow spire
#

How's it randomly shutting down?

devout mirage
#

I’ve done a sfc/scannow in admin and nothing came up

fallow spire
#

Like, doing something and freeze, blacks screens, bsod, normal shutdown where it closes apps out?

devout mirage
#

It’s literally just shutting down, black screening, with no warning or anything

timber jungle
#

Did you take out 1 stick of ram? Try 1 at a time

fallow spire
#

Could be anything

copper solar
#

did the memory test come up with anything

fallow spire
#

Ram is a great place to start

#

A mem test may not do anything

devout mirage
#

I’m still waiting for the memory scan to get done. It’s at 60% with no problems of memory detected

fallow spire
#

But it may also be a faulty cpu

#

If a CPU is damaged it may at first boot and do stuff

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Same with a bad motherboard

devout mirage
#

I will try ram next. And ya I’ve come to the terms that it’s probably faulty cpu, it doesn’t do anything at boot screen that I know of.

fallow spire
#

Well if a core is damaged it can still boot

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It may also be a faulty disk drive or ssd

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But not likely

devout mirage
#

Ya, I have an m2 and a hard drive and they work and function fine. Honestly, my last resort is the cpu and mono

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Mobo

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Right so I possibly could be, but is there any other way to see if there is a damaged core other than buying a new one?

dusk oracle
#

For your CPU are you using the stock cooler?

devout mirage
#

No I have a master cooler eco 212

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Evo

dusk oracle
#

Cooler Master you mean

devout mirage
#

Ya lol

dusk oracle
#

did you apply the right amount of thermal paste and applied the cooler on properly?

devout mirage
#

yup, everything is the way it should be

dusk oracle
#

And also when you placed the cooler did you do it inside or outside the case

devout mirage
#

outside of the case because there are mounts that require you to take the mobo out of the case to put in

dusk oracle
#

Well most cases have a cut out on the other side so you can use back plates

devout mirage
#

Ya, I mean I could have done that, but we decided since we originally thought it was my CPU overheating because I was using the original cpu fan. so we decided to unplug eberything to also rule out the maybe something wasn't plugged in correctly.

dusk oracle
#

Should just check all connections as a just in case

devout mirage
#

ok so, I looked through my event log in my pc and it is showing an event where my pc randomly shuts down. It keeps giving me a Kernel-power (event ID 41) error. I looked online and its saying that it has to do with a power issue. I'm not sure what kind of power issue it could be, considering I've already tried to change out the psu

timber jungle
#

I still say Ram....

shadow seal
#

will the r9 3900x ever be back in stock. Find out next time on CP-U Zeeeee

dusk oracle
#

I prefer Dragon Ball P 😛

cinder sierra
#

Would the x570 aorus pro wifi be a good motherboard for overclocking ram past 3200 mhz?

fair mantle
#

ROg Maximus XI Hero (wifi) MOBO, which slot is best to put a m.2 drive?

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@copper solar

copper solar
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best? uhhhh the top one first

fair mantle
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so the one closer to the pcie?

copper solar
#

i just put it there because its designated first m.2 slot

fair mantle
#

oh u have same board?

copper solar
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yes

fair mantle
#

nice

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so is there 3 m.2 slots or 2

copper solar
#

2

fair mantle
#

whats the other thing by the pcie ports looks like another slot

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oh nvm i was looking at the wrong thing

quaint current
fair mantle
#

One more Q. This Mobo has onboard memory do I have to go into bios and disable it maually when i install the GPU

copper solar
#

No

fair mantle
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Ah nice graph, thanks. what if I want to put another one later on is it gonna run slower in b?

copper solar
#

It will auto shut it off it detects gpu

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No

fair mantle
#

Awesome. sorry for the newbie questions its been 8 years since I built a PC

#

Thanks for the helps

copper solar
#

It will disable sata port if you install an m.2 sata drive though

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So make sure it's nvme if you don't want that to happen

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Read the manual

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:0

fair mantle
#

Which sata port, is that used for a hard drive?

copper solar
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I don't remember

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It's all in the manual

fair mantle
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got it.

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yeah im installing the 970 pro its nvme

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Definetly gonna read the manual im getting the mobo tomorrow just trying to get a head start

copper solar
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Mobo is on Asus support site for download

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Manual*

fair mantle
#

kool thanks

oblique steeple
#

3950x + X570 Master?

naive pendant
#

Perfectly fine.

copper solar
#

no @oblique steeple

oblique steeple
#

@copper solar intel shill

timber jungle
dusk jay
jolly gust
#

Anyone know how to get the screws to reach? I took the heat sync off after installation to check a cpu error now I cant get it back on

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Ryzen 5 2600x

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Also, have the mobo in the case still. Do I need to take it out to reinstall?

copper solar
#

lossen the other screws then make sure every other screw is at least grabbing the back plate before tightening @jolly gust

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might need to push the back plate more against the mobo to actually have it flush against it

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so that the screws can grab them

jolly gust
#

I'll try to take it out and reinstall

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No screws can reach it

warm barn
#

I'm lookin to add some more ram to what i have. the sticks i have all dont end with a K but i can only find ones online that end with a K is this still oK?

hasty marsh
#

what

#

what do you mean by "K?" Could you specify

warm barn
#

the model numbers i have for the ram i have all end with a K but the ones I see online don't end with K

copper solar
#

double check their cas latency and timings

#

they may be different

naive pendant
#

Send us a pic of the model number. If it ends in K, it might be a higher bin kit of b-die G-skill ripjaws , vs non K. e.g. 3200c14 vs 3200c16

jolly gust
#

Already reseated the CPU and everything

#

I think it's the CPU led but idk what it could be.

split garnet
#

@jolly gust it may be the ram led from the position. If you have already reseated those as well then try disconnecting all power to the computer for about a minute and try again. I have that happen to me once in a while and that's usually all it takes to get it back running.

jolly gust
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Should I reseat them to slots a1 and b1 @split garnet

split garnet
#

Wouldn't hurt to try. That could be the problem since you are only running 2 sticks instead of 4. When running only 2 most mobo want them in those spots.

naive pendant
#

Usually A2 B2 are the convention. Some T Toplogy boards don't specify.

jolly gust
#

There's asterisks beside a2 and b2

naive pendant
#

But I agree, re-seating them can't hurt. I'd try one stick at a time in each slot if that's what it takes.

jolly gust
#

Ok I put it in a1 and now the light is orange

#

Which is dram

naive pendant
#

I have a guess - the cooler didn't mount well because the CPU has one or more bent pins which are a common cause for not only failure to post but, in minor cases, dead memory channels.

jolly gust
#

I didn't see any bent pins when I checked it the 2nd time

naive pendant
#

I'd at least try each stick in one A and one B channel, then repeat with the other stick. Thermal problems aside, I can't imagine it's likely you'll cause more damage unless you set bios voltages manually.

#

Didn't you mention something about non-matching memory SKU's?

jolly gust
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Not sure what that is but I don't think so

naive pendant
#

Show us this part

jolly gust
naive pendant
#

Perfect, love it.

#

They're both identical?

jolly gust
#

Ye

#

I have a Ryzen 2600x and a, Asus rog strix 450

naive pendant
#

You lucked out, it's samsung b, since it's ver 4.32

jolly gust
#

Maybe if I try to switch the 8 pin CPU connector around?

naive pendant
#

Can't hurt to snap us a few pics of the insides

sharp blaze
#

I am excited about getting a new cpu

#

I want to see how far I can overclock my existing ram before I make a decision

naive pendant
#

I want to ditch x570 for x299, probably a dark , maybe the R6EE

jolly gust
#

YO

naive pendant
#

And go quad 63xx for the AMD build

jolly gust
#

I GOT IT TO WORK

#

I took out a fan that was connected to the aio pump

naive pendant
#

Nice, if you want to be 100% sure, I will gladly glance over some pics

#

Ah

jolly gust
#

But now my exhaust fan doesn't work lok

naive pendant
#

Random, if any of you all want to edit that POST screen to say funny stuff, hmu

#

What's going on down here? jrfp1 / 2, hd audio out? and... a wifi card?

jolly gust
#

Wdym audio out?

#

And yeah I can't reach the PC with ethernet

naive pendant
#

Low priority, but may I suggest moving that top fan one slot towards the rear?

#

Should pull less hottish GPU air into the CPU. This is very much nitpicking btw.

jolly gust
#

Good idea. I had a fan behind it but it was plugged up to the wrong thing

naive pendant
#

I kinda have to keep my advice in check with that I think will leave the consumer fairly satisfied, but also without closing any doors for them in the future.

#

Why recommend slot A? just curious, I'm often asked that question.

#

@quaint current

dusk oracle
#

Doesn't that guys case have cable management?

naive pendant
#

Koala's? I'm the wrong one to ask

quaint current
#

cause A would be the slot for the main one, so you would put it in their

timber jungle
#

One set shows 18-20-20
Other is 16-18-18 also the JDEC is lower on the one set

proven trail
#

What's up guys? Wanted to ask for a suggestion. I've finally decided on a CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) after receiving my case. Next purchase I'll be making is a motherboard. I was going to go with a x570. I'll have approximately $200 budgeted for that. Any suggestions on which would be best closest to that price range? Open to suggestions on alternative motherboards as well.

timber jungle
#

Everything look ok? Some of the numbers are just not matching..makes me wonder

naive pendant
#

It's running at 3000c16

trail vapor
#

Hey

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Oh, we’re flexing our PC rigs? Well, I have a potato. Checkmate!

fair mantle
#

Do I need to plug something in those 2 slots? I have the ATX rog maximus xi hero

copper solar
#

what two slots

fair mantle
copper solar
#

thats the eps/cpu 12 volt

#

you can use either the 8 pin

#

or the 8pin+4pin

#

not JUST 4pin

#

8+4 is for extreme overclocking

#

8 is fine for most people

fair mantle
#

Would that be the cable I use?

naive pendant
#

Yes, assuming you're holding both ends of the same cable.

fair mantle
#

Yes I am one of the ends is split into 4s though

naive pendant
#

Just align the clip on each 4 with the clip on the 8 pin input on the MB

fair mantle
#

Alright sounds good. Thanks for the help

copper solar
dusk jay
dusk oracle
#

3200MHz is still the sweet spot and affordable

dusk jay
#

but will it take 3600?

coral bear
#

isnt the x570 a new motherboard that just came out?

dusk jay
#

yeah

coral bear
#

prob a bad site to use

shadow seal
#

so newegg got a new shipment of 3900x's in today. Any idea how long it lasted before it sold out?

quaint current
#

uhh i think under 10 minutes

#

they sell out super fast

shadow seal
#

jeez. These things are becomming a cpu of legend only. Nearly impossible to get

quaint current
#

just set a autonotify

shadow seal
#

whats shipment rate?

quaint current
#

no clue

shadow seal
#

I did, by the time I woke up they were gone

quaint current
#

yeah also might want to check r/amd or r/buildapcsales they might have posts when they're back in stock

timber jungle
#

Really worth 80$ for the timing difference?

urban ferry
#

id do it

timber jungle
#

You don’t even have a PC... lol

urban ferry
#

ok

timber jungle
#

😘😘😘

#

Have to give you crap

shadow seal
#

thats hard to say. I would try to find c16 or c17 personally

#

18 and 19 is bottom of the barrel binning

sharp blaze
#

I guess it could end up coming with hynix chips on the worse timing sticks, but at that speed and timing for either I have a hard time believing that it would make much difference

shadow seal
#

is it for a intel build or a ryzen? if its ryzen I would pay a little more for the faster ram

timber jungle
#

Intel

shadow seal
#

than it wouldnt matter as much

timber jungle
#

I9-9900k

urban ferry
#

cheaper ram will be good then.

shadow seal
#

might be able to find cheaper twin 16's if you dont care about populating all slots

#

that are faster CAS

timber jungle
#

I want pretty lights... lol.

shadow seal
#

ah than yea, your gonna pay for it than

urban ferry
#

may i recommend 3200mhz instead

#

cheaper for the pretty lights

#

and still plenty fast

shadow seal
#

I think even 3400 cas 16 would be faster

urban ferry
#

imagine having fast ram

#

2400mhz

shadow seal
#

or would be really close unless you need a memory specific tasks

urban ferry
#

aaaaaa

#

i also apparently have a memory leak

#

and cant fix it

shadow seal
#

how are you using so mcuh ram

urban ferry
#

good question

timber jungle
#

Have 3000 now, and it’s plenty fast... but always like going bigger... May step down to 3200 or so

shadow seal
#

reformat your pc

urban ferry
#

look at the bottom, thats all i have open

naive pendant
#

standbylist cleaner? Valgrind is my jam - unrelated

timber jungle
#

I still say you have a virus

urban ferry
#

i did a virus scan

#

no virus

shadow seal
#

I think you do have a virus or malware or something

timber jungle
#

So?

shadow seal
#

if its a broken program even. Reformat and try again

devout mothBOT
#
Tazman1982#7729 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

urban ferry
#

language please

#

if i had a virus i think it would be attacking other parts of my computer, instead of just filling my ram

timber jungle
#

Oops... was supposed to say Shut... lol

shadow seal
#

unlikely

naive pendant
#

i downloaded ram and got this "virus" thing

shadow seal
#

the whole idea of a good virus is to not make it super obvious to the user

naive pendant
#

did it work

timber jungle
#

Fist thing a Virus does is shuts down the antivirus so it can’t find it

shadow seal
#

so you either have a virus/malware. Or you have a broken/corrupt program leeching resources at an alarming rate

#

either way its going to harm your performance drasticly till its fixed

timber jungle
#

That’s why I use defender as my normal... and have Malwarebytes on a drive so it’s not affected

shadow seal
#

Ignoring it doesnt make it go away

urban ferry
#

or i have a memory leak.

shadow seal
#

back up your stuff on a known clean drive and reformat

urban ferry
#

i havent downloaded anything in a long time

shadow seal
#

boi...that doesnt mean anything

urban ferry
#

and i have antivirus that scans every web page i go to

timber jungle
#

Have you been online?? BOOM... potential virus

shadow seal
#

that still means nothing

urban ferry
#

im confident that my antivirus is doing its job

shadow seal
#

than find and fix your leak

#

if you cannot

#

than reformat and start fresh, monitoring the installs till you find whats causing the issue

timber jungle
#

👆👆👆👆

shadow seal
#

saying "I have a leak" doesnt fix the problem

#

fixing the problem fixes the problem

timber jungle
#

I removed SOOOOO many virus working at Office Depot and Staples... and they all had virus defenders too

urban ferry
#

im fixing the problem

naive pendant
#

Just use windows defender

#

If not, try that tron thing

urban ferry
#

im explaining that ive been trying to fix the problem, and i think the issue is i have a memory leak

#

but i cant figure out how to fox it

#

fix*

shadow seal
#

than reformat

naive pendant
#

ez fix

urban ferry
#

but it hasnt been bothering me since ive been busy with school

timber jungle
#

They just told you how..

shadow seal
#

cuz it can easily be something corrupt within a working program or windows

urban ferry
#

i dont wanna reformat personally

timber jungle
#

Then suffer with poor ram

#

Lol

urban ferry
#

mk imma just leave for now

shadow seal
#

reformating now takes litterally like 30 minutes

#

and maybe 2 hours to reintall programs

naive pendant
#

Do you guys like tech trivia?

shadow seal
#

hmmn, this makes me question why I use avast when windows defender does the job XD

#

avast is borderline spamware at this point with its pointless "buy my stuff" bs

timber jungle
#

Defender does a decent job...

naive pendant
#

What drive being reformatted? Interested in input?

timber jungle
#

Really only had 1 virus... and it was my fault.

shadow seal
#

Ive had many false flags, but never an actual virus

urban ferry
#

seeing if this works before i do the complicated fixes

shadow seal
#

how many tabs did you have open in chrome. what other taskbar processes did you have running

urban ferry
#

2 tabs in chrome

#

discord

#

task manager

#

not a lot of background stuff

shadow seal
#

yea than somethings big time broke. I got like 3 game launchers, 25 tabs, discord. steam, graphics overclocking stuff and only using 8.5

urban ferry
#

must be nice

#

:(

shadow seal
#

whens the last time you reformatted?

urban ferry
#

never

shadow seal
#

I do it every year

urban ferry
#

too much data for me

#

dont wanna reset

shadow seal
#

good idea for future stuff is 2 seperate drives. One for games and such and one for other stuff. Main try to keep clean for easy formatting

urban ferry
#

i have 2 drives

#

just dont wanna format either

shadow seal
#

I only format the main drive with the OS and deep scan the other 2

urban ferry
#

i have a laptop so if anything went wrong thats a no no

#

kinda laptop thats hard to open up too

shadow seal
#

oor theres always partitions

naive pendant
#

@shadow seal fast storage is great these days. What kind of build you running?

shadow seal
#

an old setup im looking to replace at the end/eginning of the this/next year. 6700k, gigabyte gaming 7 z170. 24 gigs ram because a single stick died at 2400. Haf X case, twin 1070 FTW's 1,000 Watt G2 supernova, thermaltake 240 rgb aio. WD black HD (main) 1TB, 1.5 TB blue, and a Samsung evo SSD 500 gig

#

overhauling most this rig is gonna cost me like 2 grand when im done

royal pecan
#

I feel your pain zack. cleaning up my laptop today too

naive pendant
#

Nice attention to detail, I usually just have peple run a userbench because it's a ton of info in 2 minuts.

urban ferry
#

i tried cleaning my google drive, but the site is too slow

#

cant do it

#

chromebooks garbage

naive pendant
#

When do you get new pc

urban ferry
#

hopefully in the next couple months

shadow seal
#

uh hoping that 3900x availability improves by the end of the year. thats kind of the wall atm. I should have my credit cards cleared by then

#

3900x, 32 gigs Trident Z royals, x570 Auorus master, 1 tb blue SSD (main) 1tb NVME (games) and 500 gig secondary SSD with the 1.5 tb as a backup. H500M case, swapping my AIO over since it still works fine. Then when Nvidias next gen 3080Ti or w/e its called hits ill get that to replace my 1070's

#

then ill rebuild my old PC and sell it, and the cycle will continue

urban ferry
#

anger intensifies

#

so apparently it was supposed to say the results of the memory diagnostic test after i logged back in

#

i logged in and nothing happened

naive pendant
#

It's not in event viewer?

urban ferry
#

nope

royal pecan
#

thats not event viewer

urban ferry
#

i know

#

but im posting that anyway

royal pecan
#

my mistake

urban ferry
#

nah ur fine

#

im too tired rn

#

ill try to fix it again tomorrow

royal pecan
#

it should be in Event Viewer>Windows Logs>System then select ‘memory diagnostic results’.

grizzled holly
#

Hey can anyone help me?

timber jungle
#

Think you are beyond help... lol

urban ferry
#

ill take a look @royal pecan

#

thx for the help

#

if it doesnt work imma just wait till i get my new computer which will have 64gb of ram cool_and_good

royal pecan
#

Get your hw done before tackling the memory leak first

urban ferry
#

its already done

royal pecan
#

Do you have killer network app?

urban ferry
#

never heard of it

royal pecan
#

its an ethernet thing. A software packaged with drivers. The app itself does nothing but cause issues. I’m investigating that as the cause of my high memory usage.

urban ferry
#

hm

urban ferry
#

@royal pecan

#

where is it now?

royal pecan
#

was there anything in the details tab?

#

it’s supposed to be right there

urban ferry
#

my dad is making me get off the computer

#

ill check when i can get back on

dusk oracle
#

I got a feeling you didn't do your homework 😛

shy wyvern
#

Alright. I think my 8600k is either dying or my psu is causing extreme stuttering

dusk oracle
#

Or maybe your motherboard?

shy wyvern
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I just tested my spare 8400 in it

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It's not stuttering

dusk oracle
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Did you overclock your 8600K

shy wyvern
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Yeah but even under locked it stutters.

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I am running that and a 2060 on a 450 watt psu with both of them overclocked.

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I have a suspicion that it's my power delivery

vague lava
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id tend to agree you may be right a the edge of the psu

dusk oracle
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You pretty much would of needed at least a 550w

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i always say go a little higher over what is recommended for your system

shy wyvern
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My system recommends 550 watts.

devout mothBOT
shy wyvern
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Should probably be 600 watgs

dusk oracle
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If it recommends 550w why are you using a 450w

shy wyvern
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I replaced components and couldn't afford a stronger psu

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Oh great

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How TF is this thing running

urban ferry
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you could seriously damage things, be careful

shy wyvern
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My roommates wattage tester says 535 watt power draw on stress test. Why is my psu letting that run

dusk oracle
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Put the 8400 back in for now until you have a better PSU

shy wyvern
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I've had the 8600k in there for like 4 months. If I don't overclock either I go down to 430 watts.

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I ordered a 600 watt from best buy.

dusk oracle
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🤦

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cheaper to get from an actual PC store or on Newegg

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The only thing i would buy at a bestbuy is a new TV i wouldn't even bother buying any computer hardware from there

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@shy wyvern Tell me how much did you pay on bestbuy and which PSU did you get

shy wyvern
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Evga 600 watt bronze 80+. My current one is the 450 watt model and has served me for 4 years.

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And I paid only 45 cause I had a 40% off birthday coupon

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Well actually it was like 47.8something. free shipping

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Originally $80

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It's the modular one

warm berry
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What

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$80?!!?!! For that??!??!

hasty marsh
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lmao

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i paid like 70 bucks for a semi modular 80+ 650 W psu

shy wyvern
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It's 75 on Newegg

warm berry
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Wow

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What!!!!

hasty marsh
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whats so surprising

shy wyvern
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It's not bad for under $50

hasty marsh
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you can find decent psus for like 50 bucks

shy wyvern
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Like I think that's psu for under $50 is not a bad feal

hasty marsh
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i just had a bit of extra money left to spare

shy wyvern
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Is that EVGA 600 watt bq 80+ a good deal for $48?

hasty marsh
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ye

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i was gonna get evga

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but i saw reviews and there were some bad reviews about it

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so i just noped outta there

shy wyvern
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Everyone says avoid them but like

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I've used them for 9 years.

hasty marsh
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for me, there were enough bad reviews to UNconvince me of that psu

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so i went with corsair

shy wyvern
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I've had great success with EVGA. First power supply was a 500 watt with a 3 year warranty, it lasted for 5.

hasty marsh
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i didnt say it was bad

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i just didnt want to take any chances with my first ever build

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so i was a bit paranoid

shy wyvern
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My dad's computer got fried from a Corsair psu.

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He plugged it in and his computer instantly fried. His board blew some capacitors. Smelled awful.

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Just some units are bad, it's a risk you take with all components.

hasty marsh
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oof

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ig its a risk for any part

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never know

shy wyvern
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Corsairs customer service pissed me off too. Told my dad "it sounds like a bad motherboard" and don't honor the warranty

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He used that motherboard for 4 months prior

hasty marsh
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dang that sucks

shy wyvern
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He has a 9900k and a 1080 in there. Both just fried

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Had*

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He's using the 7700k and 950 he upgraded from now.

naive pendant
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Both Corsair and EVGA use a variety of PSU manufacturers. I prefer EVGA/s warranty policy and customer support.

shy wyvern
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^

hasty marsh
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lol we just sparked a psu convo

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noiCE

shy wyvern
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They offered me a %20 off coupon when I called customer service when my 500 watt psu fried. It was 2 years out of warranty

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Used it to buy my current 450 watt one

naive pendant
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I like a good PSU convo

shy wyvern
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They're overlooked parts tbh

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I might put this 450 watt to good use! Build my sister a gaming PC with the 8400 and 1060

hasty marsh
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not bad

shy wyvern
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It's play games on ultra settings still.

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I just got greedy and jumped on a $220 + $30 shipping rtx 2060

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Only reason why I don't use the 1060 anymore. 450 watts is more than enough for that card

hasty marsh
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dang

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you got a really good deal man

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lucky

shy wyvern
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Eh

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Not that good of a deal, is it? 😝 It was used 2 days beforehand

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Just for 2 days

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It's the ventus oc model which has terrible cooling. Runs at 87° at full load slightly overclocked even with the premium thermal grizzly stuff used.

hasty marsh
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still lucky

naive pendant
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Kryonaut?

shy wyvern
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Yes

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Checked my Amazon order history

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I didn't want liquid metal since I have mild dyspraxia and liquid metal + motor skills deficiency = dead components.

naive pendant
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Kryonaut is more than fine for that type of use. Don't bother with LM unless you want to overclock/mod for fun's sake.

shy wyvern
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I was trying to push my i5 8600k to 5.3 GHz but I was hitting 93 degree temps

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Liquid metal would be nice

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That chip is legit the definition of the silicon lottery. 1.4 volts and 5.3 ghz stable. Just extremely hot.

naive pendant
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I de-lidded my 7700k and used conductonaut under the IHS. Good results, but I did so for fun, not because I needed 300MHz haha.

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What AVX offset?

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8600k shouldn't be too bad since, it's the HT on the 8700k that pushes many to de-lid and LM for a 2-300 MHz gain.

shy wyvern
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I had to set it to 2 I believe

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I had to put it back because 93 degrees is too hot. That cpu would die pretty fast

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It jumping up to 93-95 degrees and back down to 40-50 when gaming will start to cause issues

naive pendant
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What was the thermal load though? Temps are meaningless without giving watts, e.g. package power etc

urban ferry
royal pecan
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what did you do?

urban ferry
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minecraft server

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also i checked the details but idk what it means

royal pecan
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was there any indication everything came out normal or was it one of those where it was all hex

naive pendant
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@hardy prairie @naive pendant Easier here

hardy prairie
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Alright

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So I should go for that ram you said? It’s the best possible for my setup?

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@naive pendant

naive pendant
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What's the budget again? Including monitor

dusk oracle
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His budget is 2 grand

hardy prairie
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Not for monitor

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I have $2600 (or more) for pc and monitor @naive pendant

naive pendant
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Oh, nice

hardy prairie
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Alright I’ll add that on my list

dusk oracle
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Those are more compatible for Intel

hardy prairie
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I heard it was good for amd

naive pendant
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Idk, most people just buy 3200c14 b-die and OC to whatever they want. I'd never buy 4000c19 or something.

sand glen
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My msi gaming edge x570 is not getting power. Anyone got any ideas what's wrong?

dusk oracle
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Did you connect the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors?

sand glen
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Yes

dusk oracle
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the 2x4 connector

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or 4+4

sand glen
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For the cpu?

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Yes I did

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Power supply switch is in the right place

dusk oracle
sand glen
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I have a 750w

dusk oracle
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Do you have all those connected in

naive pendant
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If you're interested in sharing some pictures of the build and where the cables are routed, we'd be happy to take a look.

sand glen
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Does it need the cpu to power it?

dusk oracle
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Take a picture of inside your system

sand glen
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Okay

naive pendant
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Unless you're using the BIOS flashback capability, yes, you'd have to have the CPU installed to power on.

dusk oracle
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@naive pendant Doesn't he need to fill in that 4 pin as well?

naive pendant
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Almost always no, but I think I remember reading that specific manual saying you do. TBH it shouldn't matter, but might as well check everything else in the processs

dusk oracle
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Well if it is not booting i would assume that is the cause of it all

sand glen
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I'll see what I can do real quick

naive pendant
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Could you show the complete connection between each cable end

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Also the pins that you're using to pwr_sw

dusk oracle
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so there is CPU pwr 1 and 2

sand glen
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I guess I need to buy a 2x4

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Or a 2x2

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Because i have a cord that connects 2 2x2s to make a 4x4

naive pendant
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I mean, there are still a lot of possible reasons for failure to power on. But it couldn't hurt to get an adapter as long as you're careful.

sand glen
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I eliminated some ram roo

dusk oracle
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This is why if i plan on going for the 3000 series i want there to be a B550 board

sand glen
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Too

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The manual states you only need to connect the 8

naive pendant
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The more you can describe or show about what's going on the better we can guess

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If there's no reaction from the power switch at all, it's likely that the PSU isn't connected properly, the power switch is inthe wrong spot etc

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Even if you had a dead short, there'd be a click and you'd see tha fans spin

sand glen
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Well I plugged them into the same spots as the manual says and in the same spots as my old board and ingot power

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Could it be a defect board?

naive pendant
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ingot power?

sand glen
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I got*

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Sorry lol

naive pendant
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No worries, I thought that was the name of PSU or something

sand glen
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So it's not the power switch

naive pendant
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It could be a defuct board, but unlikely.

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Could you show a closeup of the power switch connection

sand glen
naive pendant
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JFP1 is for the power switch, the uper right two

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Looks right to me

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Any other connections between the board/PSU?

sand glen
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No. Just the power supply and board are connected

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I had everything set up in the case

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Then power didn't start so I had to take it out