#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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there we go
yeah that could fit a 420 and 360
hed do ram too if thermaltake made their water ram in the capacity and speeds he wants
see all the tt cases are like $200
and
the o11 did everything that they can do for half the price
I still think what your dad is doing is slightly beyond the realm of some custom built home pc...
that wont stop him
Build a 2k gaming computer, use the other 3k for AWS server costs
He'll be so much better off
see look at how much you can fit in a o11 https://i.imgur.com/vzkSYHl.jpg
This frightens me a bit lol
the o11 is so boxy
its gonna be under his desk keep in mind
ok then you pick the case
oh another concern is hard drives
he has like 4 i think
yeahhh, the o11 only can fit 3
:l
im doing 3d renders of autocad and gaming so prob the 3700x
^
i just pulled the 3600 because i was able to fit a better mobo and cooler
just dont overclock
the stock cooler for both of those do a great job
unless you want to overclock
alright ill get the 3700X one then
Thats because the cosair cooler does not have thermal paste already on
7 3.5" slots and can fit 2 420's
but most if not all ryzen stock coolers have it pre applied
the stock coolant on the stock coolers isnt really all that great
yeah
nice find @quaint current
ill probably go with that one
its practical and looks good too
oh wait that thing is friggin expensive lol
still a good case 
lmao it has a wireless charger built in
Corsair dominator Vs Trident zskill.... GO
@timber jungle
Apples vs oranges, they're both tasty fruit but each can come in a range of quality.
You can have a nice Fuji or Honeycrisp Apple
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820236514 3200c14 kit
or a Red Delicious / Granny Smith that's best fed to my compost bin
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820233850 2666MHz cl15
what is a good amd cpu for streaming for under 120
I’d go for the newest generation of amd chips if I were you, just whichever matches your budget best
I agree
oik
But btw if you’re really serious about streaming you’re gonna want to spend the extra $ on a ryzen 7 cpu
3700x certainly gives a bit more benfit over the 3600, it's really just 8 cores vs 6, the max single tread is a few percent, a few more percent with a big cooler.
Budget? Also, cpu, mobo? Lastly, do you want something that's very plug and play, no fiddling with settings? Or top of the line stuff that can be tweaked for peformance
Do you need 16 or 32 GB total? 32 won't be able to clock as fast, but not a huge issue.
Need... 16... going with 32.... because why not
For example, here's my 3200c14 kit clocked to 4133c17 on the right https://puu.sh/DXVhd.png
Just trying to spark more conversations...
4133c17 is pretty chill though, I can push 4000 c13 for bench, or 4000c14 for daily
Haha what do you mean
i wish 4000+ was cheaper
Buying 4000+ is usually kinda silly
BuT ItS FaStEr
The thing is, the highest bin samsung sells is 3200c14 for b-die, other companies can bin themselves though.
Anything over 3200 is really ehhhh
Do you mean the ram as sold by it's XMP rating? Or actual clock in use
Actual use..
I have 3000 right now... and don’t see the need to upgrade... yet... lol
probably not worth it, what latency kit?
ive heard c16 is pretty good, is that correct?
@naive pendant what kinda voltage u got those running at?
Which? I run 1.45 daily, but could probably go lower. I'm on a frankenstein build rn though, on the z390 dark, 1.4v easy for 4133 17 18 18 28 1T 2x8
So i got that dr4p on my 2600x, am getting around 40c at idle. that sound reasonable? i was previously getting 50s and 60s with the spire
@cinder sierra Yes.
awesome. now to see what it looks like on prime95 lol
Prime 95 AVX and or small fft is an absolute worst case scenario tewst
Any word on the Tomahawk MAX release date for MSI? I'm planning on getting that and a Ryzen 3600... But if it's gonna take too long I might just go with the Tomahawk and a 2600
Which is fine, but you need to interpret the results as such
e.g. if I get 95C in prime 95 AVX, then I know I'll hit maybe 80C max in themost demanding of games, which is fine. It's the upper limit for my setup and preference, but fine.
what would be a more ideal test if i will be gaming on 1440p
gaming benchmarks?
@naive pendant
Prime 95 is fine. I use aida64
ok cool. i remember hitting 91c on the spire
So i wonder how long its going to take for stock vs demand of the 3900x's to normalize so it doesnt sell out in 3 hours each time theres a shipment
2-3 more months
so im trying to buy ram off of newegg im not sure what the difference is between the sdram and dram?
aight thanks
SDRAM is old stuff. You're probably looking for DDR4.
well yeah ddr4 but theres one that says just dram and one that is sdram
no difference in price or anything just that name
The name on that page is the only difference. Wouldn't worry about it.
so should I go with the DRAM then?
Post the link.
Or the link to your build and description of your use csae if you want a memory recommendation
Yep, those are the same kit CMW32GX4M4Z3200C16
ok weird with the naming
Important part is 4x8 3200 c16 Corsair vengeance - that's what you'd usually call it
Thanks man been trying to figure out what the difference is and it got me all confused
@copper solar How do u like the board?
It's a low bin b-die kit https://file1.hkepc.net/2018/08/source/0616220525601101411.png
Im pairing it with the i9-9900k, any issues with that, that I would be looking at?
If you want better, you can get better, but otherwise, no
Everyone wants better lol but I can only stretch my budget so far
Definitely. If you're just gaming I'd go 2x8
I'm planning on doing gaming and some video editing as well
The board is wired T topology to 4x8 is fine too.
if video editing I would go 32
its not really much more expensive to go with 32 gigs now
as long as its not like c14 or Royal ram
If you want to save, and you don't care about rgb, go https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164144 That's micron rev E, can overclock well for the cost
That is a very cheap 4x8 , probably because it's on sale
Yeah that is cheaper, 80 dollars for rgb basically im a sucker for rgb plz dont judge lol
Nothing wrong with that at all. The kit you linked seems great to me if you want RGB.
dont look up c14 trident royal 32 gig kits with 4 sticks than >.>
lol
Royal's heat spreader just looks dumb imo
Even I would maybe buy some trident z rgb
its rgb effect is probably the best out there though
the new Neo is cool for ryzen though
Why for ryzen?
its tuned specially for ryzen
How?
they have a special kit thats like c14 3800 that keeps the 1:1 infinity fabric timings
oh man that looks crazy
bascially unheard of. Normally you can only keep 1:1 with 3600
Lol, that still means fclk has to run 1900MHz
Which is very hard to do on 1.1V SOC, have to get lucky, even with a 3900x
the performance numbers on the neo are pretty crazy good
Oh, 3800c14 is definitely super high bin memory, I don't doubt that at all
ill stick with my silver royal c16 cuz thats expensive and looks cool XD
so these 3200 corsair on my board do i have to overclock them to run at that speed or is that something it does stock
Just enable XMP and they should run 3200 c16 no problem
nah. there should be a XMP profile that will auto the timings for you
ok thats good to know cuz if i had to do the timings manually that would be a problem
its not the tightest timings, so there more performance to squeeze but its the best out of the box
might be a calculator out there somewhere
for intel
Can't be worse than the ryzen dram calc
now I just need to decide on a GPU
cant go wrong with a 2080 super or 2070 super. depends on your resolution your running

i want to game and video edit in 4k
4k is tough. your looking at the two highest skews than
the 2080 tis are crazy expensive
yeeep. such is the cost of gaming at 4k with decent frames
are those basically the only cards that can game at 4k? 2070 dont?
What monitor? If you're just doing 4k 60 you can get by with less. Even more so, what games?
I dont care much so for the frames as long as I get 60 at least
I play mainly Destiny 2, some sport games
Tomb raider as well
hmmn. well 2070 super might be okay. i dono how future titles would fare
2080 super would be fairly safe
we probably have like 2 more gens of graphics cards till 4k becomes what 1440p is now
yeah that sounds about right i guess, well i guess I can sleep on it and decide in the morning lol
i just dont wanna shoot too low and scre you over on cards for the next like 2-3 years
er games
yeah no I understand I when u spend so much on one item u want it to be future proof for a bit
and Im thinking about the next gen consoles could bump graphics again
I just want something that I wont have to switch out in the next 3 or 4 years if im paying over 500 for a gpu
willing to bet a 2080 super would be safe than honestly
specially if they improve DLSS r w/e it is that down res and sharpens to improve frames and not lose quality with the RTX series
yeah I was thinking super as well. I read that ps5 will be about as powerful as the rtx 2080
interesting
than yea. probably super would be safe XD
might as well since they are phasing the standard 2080's out
alright man, thanks for the help everyone who chimed in, I am going to go to bed.
yep yep. sleep well, happy to help
I don't think you're gonna find any 3.2 headers right now. I haven't really looked but I don't think adoption is very high currently.
beardy speaks 
mod trainee.


@young blade so the only one I could fine with usb 3.2 Gen2 Type C would have been this spendy Aorus one, granted you dont usually want to skimp on a mobo so depends on your price limit https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145159?item=N82E16813145159&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813145159&gclid=CjwKCAjwqNnqBRATEiwAkHm2BDtOxtp0YroDAfKY4xX_zoMRxytYwMaf6wOHgc35mgm8-zUVDVik7BoCOOcQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Also another spendy one, but an asusu board if you want aura or just simply prefer Asus, idk https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-X570-F-Motherboard-Heatsinks/dp/B07SXDR2LJ/ref=asc_df_B07SXDR2LJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366288502003&hvpos=1o17&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6888442242601643950&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033597&hvtargid=pla-785017987673&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=74513439485&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366288502003&hvpos=1o17&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6888442242601643950&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033597&hvtargid=pla-785017987673
This one has USB 3.1 gen1 type C? its also only $100 which is a lot better compared to the other two. https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-13-119-141&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-9B-13-119-141&gclid=CjwKCAjwqNnqBRATEiwAkHm2BNbbK84_fWFoRSPl7aOn7NwMaugrfV4E5JnyPjLxhCXc81_8B-mR3BoCka0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Do people actually seek out good motherboards? Most of them do the same thing. I've never put much thought into my motherboards
depends on the features you need/want
I usually buy something close to the top end
more I/O, usually better sound, more fan headers, more m.2 slots. and if you are into overclocking then better vrm and pcb design.
the average user probably doesnt need it though
I have always gone for the better of motherboards, unless on a super tight budget build, the motherboard is often your key to upgrades too. If you plan to have your machine for awhile, get a motherboard you know will be able to support what you want to do.
so i have the aorus b450 pro wifi and i was wondering if i got a 3600/x would it be able to supply the power it needs to automatically overclock itself?
i dont mind the bios update
yes
the b450 pro should be good up to about a stock 3900x. A 3600x should be no problem at all.
so it would be ok with xmp enabled with the 3600x?
xmp is for the memory, do you mean precision boost and xfr
either way the answer is yes, pretty much all the b450 boards use a 4 phase vrm design. I think there is one asus and maybe 1 or 2 msi boards that arent 4 phase. The vrm on the b450 pro should be good especially if you have an air cooler on the cpu that will keep some air moving around the vrm
it was fully capable of running a 2700x @ 4.2ghz in the tweaktown review, and a 3600x is much more efficient than a 2700x
most of the reviews I have seen show the 3600x with pbo only drawing around 80W
oh yeah i should be more than ok
if you look at the very top the catagory that the b450 pro wifi falls into for overclocking would be a 3800x/3700x
That chart overestimates the capability of some x570 boards IMO, but it's extremely hard to make a tier list that long "perfect"
yeah so im more than ok, sweet
ya I questioned some of the 4 phase asus boards
Eh, 4 phases in itself doesn't automatically mean bad VRM
Like, the entire Asus z390 line other than the Apex, Extreme, gene are all 4 phase I think
I know its basically an 8 phase but still not sure it would be good with an overclocked 3950
They just run two power stages in parallel to each output on the voltage controller
and I havnt looked at all the msi boards so I dont know much about them
and only seen a few reviews on the asus boards like the strix f and the hero
B450 pro 4 for a 3600x?
edit, nvm, aorus

You plan to put a 3600x in your b450 aorus pro, right? seems fine to me
(ive been wanting to use that emoji lol)
Is there a big difference between a xeon x3440 and x3450 to where one would work in a mb, but not the other?
No, but knowing intel, they could just firmware lock it.
The chips are nearly physically identical.
Would have to check board/bios qvl
Ah ok, thanks. I was a bit disapointed when a new budget rig of mine didn't fire up. Cpu-upgrade lists a 3450 compatible, but not a 3440
first gen i7's are a ton more expensive and don't overclock as well i'm told
I guess one has embedded options? https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=42928,42929
Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.
But that'd be obvious
I appreciate you taking a look. I went ahead and ordered a 3450 and i'll cross my fingers. It was only $15, but i was jw so i thought i'd ask
Gotta love ebay.
absolutley!
Who wants to join club x299 https://www.ebay.com/itm/293179784230
the gigabyte mb i got for this build came in looking brand new
What'd you get again?
Gigabyte ga-p55a-ud3.
i was going to do an overkill build with a 1080ti and 9700k but i kept losing auctions at the last second lol. so this sounded like a fun project
Retro-ish builds are interesting. You should post progress pics.
i have a few pictures
i don't mean to interrupt but i need help
shall i dump them here, or is there a section?
The build pics channel is kinda just for the stream showcase, I'd just do it in this section
ok
Or build chat, ?
ill stick 'em here i guess, just a couple
i just got an asus b450 mb can someone tell me how to update the BIOS?
Sry don, i'm not ignoring u, I'm not sure. I'd just look around youtube, but im not a lot of help with amd stuff
@pliant lantern https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/AMD-platform-Products/
PSU is a little sketch, no?
I did cheap out there 😂
You bought that new? haha
i looked around for a decent 600w one for the gtx 770 and overclock. found that thermaltake with decent reviews
i went there and it gave me a CAP file now what lol
yeah i didn't trust any of the garbage psus i have laying around. old oem ones
its thermaltake. $45 on amazon
You're probably fine, the reviews aren't that bad. Nothing in there sucks a ton of power.
oh darn. "do not buy"
😬
I prefer PSU's to have color coded cables honestly. Makes it harder to make mistakes.
yea i mean the reviews were ok. i am trying to cut costs on this old build
A nice 7 year warranty, no worries at all PSU could be as low as 60 AR
yeah. oh also this doens't have an 80+ cert. lol
500W is all you need, even 450
ah alright. the guy who gave me that 770 said get at least a 550w because its power hungry. but he's embellished before 😂
The first and foremost priority is the quality of the unit itself.
You can get a more/less powerful unit than your rough target based off what's on sale.
Ah, i see. So perhaps, for example, a seasonic focus+ 500w may provide more reliable power than a thermaltake tr2 600w ? lol
reliable / more stable output
Definitely, it's not that cheap units are overrated, they just often can't afford to
include features like over-temp protection, under-voltage, over power, etc.
e.g. even the cheapest of cars can go fast enough to make a crash hurt.
lol yeah
my problem is being cheap, and also doing a build based on saving money
maybe when my house burns down i'll spend the extra on an 80+ gold. lol. kidding
Haha ya, depends how much you value reliability and piece of mind.
A cheap PSU can certainly cook the rest of the PC if the right diode shorts etc
I hear what you're saying. Lately i've been ending up reselling my builds to try and form a "side-hustle" but it would be good to at least have an expensive psu to swap to my main rig as i go
then again, I don't want to go too cheap on a psu and put anyone at risk. so far the 2 builds i've sold had a corsair cx750, and another which i don't remember (decent one)
I bet you could get something for $60 or less that'd be far safer, could just return the TR
if you know one off-hand, i'm interested. you don't have to go out of your way
oh wow lol, a focus like i mentioned. i'll keep that one in mind for the next time. 450w should be ok for overclocking and a gtx 770?
It's on the low side, but it's miles better than what you have according to some internet stranges
nice xD thanks for helping me out
770 takes about 250 w absolute max in furmark. CPU/mobo rest , probably <100
ohh alright!
Hey, so I’m wanting to upgrade my CPU and mobo. I currently have a Threadripper 1900X CPU and a X399 Mobo, and I now realize I’ve basically wasted the money on Threadripper when I could have payed a but more for a much better performing Ryzen. Should I just hold off and purchase a 3900X later as well as a new Mobo? I do a fair bit of astrophotography and make compilations with hundreds of photos for a single scene... that and I also wouldn’t mind a boost in gaming performance on the side.
What AMD CPU runs well with the RTX 2060?
https://apple.news/ANSSaF1qCOiio-BjMa8WpvA that seems interesting
64 threads. jeez 😂
so
I'm shifting form factor down to itx
and I'm looking at the h210
which has a "type e" connector
and I currently have a 7700k
and my choices are either to get a used strix z270i off of ebay and hope
or
go with the 3700x and potentially way overpay for the Impact VIII, which is the only sff amd mobo with that connector
your thoughts?
You could just do an h200 with this: https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x470-i-gaming/p/N82E16813119101?Description=x470 itx&cm_re=x470_itx-_-13-119-101-_-Product
Or any other ITX AM4 mobo. Do you need/want the type-c port?
@naive pendant figured out what caused it to under perform, turning off asus multicore enhancement and switching to xmp 2 instead of 1. my programs opening immediately now instead of a few seconds.
Shouldn't have used asus.
@arctic dome please 
HATE SPEECH
no not really
Oh thanks for clarifying, big brain.
i was only stating a fact

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lol bought my drp4 and my 2600x was already boosting to its max XD so it did nothing for performance
just runs cooler
Is the b360m mortar for Msi any good?
can anyone tell me why my MOBO is only running my ram at 2133 and not 3000?
omg i have had 3 people with the same problem this week
i have a rog strix b450f gaming MOBO and i updated everything even the BIOS and when i set it higher than 2133 it becomes unstable
any ideas what the problem is?
So, I was diagnosing my unexpected lag spikes while moving my mouse. That was when I realized that task manager said my Ram was at 2133 Mhz. It is 3000Mhz ram. Link: PcPartpicker Link I have it in the first two DIMMs(my friend said that was how my motherboard said to do it, b...
sorry
Have you enabled XMP in bios?
Might be a dumb question but can the rgb headers be used for case fans?
So let’s say with my budget I’m not able to get the Ryzen 2700X? What would be some other options?
@trim whale 3600 is like 9% faster than the 2700X and cheaper.
Like right out the box or after over-clocking?
out of the box.
So have you guys ever had a bad motherboard where it will turn on and runa game for like 30mins and then shut the whole computer down?
thermal shut down sounds like it @devout mirage
Ok, I got a new psu, and it still happened. Everything immediately shuts down with now reset or anything, just black screens, and the boots back up like 6 seconds later
I have 5 fans in my pc, I have the cams software and my cpu and gpu both run at a steady 40-50 degrees C @copper solar
would it be to my advantage to take it to a computer repair place (not geek squad) and have them run a diagnostic?
you could prob diagnose this yourself
i'd run a stress test to see if it does it again on load
mobo sensors could also be messing up and doing emergency shut down if cpu temps spiked up randomly
bios update may fix it? may not.
intel i5 9400 F
MSI MAG Z390 Tomahawk mobo
Corsair CM750X PSU
MSI 1050 TI GPU
Master Coooler EVO 212 CPU fan
and Corsair Crystal Series case x570
I already did a Bios update and it didn't fix it. how do I run a stress test?
well for cpu, prime95 is pretty good at heating up cpu
it's free too
for gpu that's free uhhhhh
Not usually
heaven benchmark is okay, furmark is okay, i like the paid 3dmark stuff
prime95 is pretty good at heating up if you wait a while
Office Depot is in trouble right now because they showed fake viruses on your PC for your free checkup
also since you said it does shut down after about 30 min
nothing is overclocked or altered right?
30 min shut down... overheating? OC?
i'd say run optimized defaults in bios and hope for best if you did change anything
Reseat ram, double check all plugs... with a new PSU, make sure the plugs are in right.. and What Theo said... reset bio to default
Bios default fixes a lot of crap
does the pc freeze before the restart?
like looping sound and frozen screen or is it just a complete shut down
well you can try cpu stress test and monitoring temps
gpu stress tests too
i'd reset cmos on motherboard to make sure there are no weird settings
ok for sure, I ran a CPU stress test and nothing happened
make sure to re-enable xmp for your memory tho
it takes a while run it for like 20 min
and watch the temps
nothing is oc'd either, it's all stock
not exactly sure what to tell you D:
if cpu stress test doesnt crash you after 20 min then its prob not cpu
same with gpu
you could try repairing windows
but i doubt its that
sfc /scannow in admin command prompt
if cpu and gpu and repair doesn't fail it its one of the older components of your pc
like you said, may be your mobo
this could usually tell you whats under performing and show signs of degradation
by comparing performance average
just make sure you're not running anything else
Ok I will after gpu stress test. Nothing yet and its running at 67C as the highest
prime95?
Yes and the FurMark test too
Well, it happens sometimes during video editing or something that causes a lot of stress on the pc
could be faulty memory too
but the stress tests aren't doing anything to it :/
Reseat ram...
if you press start and type memory test it should pop up the windows diagnostic
Test 1 stick at a time
and it will restart your pc
ok I can do that through furmark?
Ok I’m running the test on the memory now
ok good luck
Honestly I hope it ends up being this because this is honestly the most annoying thing ever.. especially since it’s so hard to pinpoint what it could be 😦
yeahhhh its a tough thing to troubleshoot
if you're using a surge protector or multi-outlet type deal you could try changing it or trying a diff outlet to see if that helps
Ya especially since this is my first pc build so it’s all really new to me since I originally gamed on PS4 and switched to pc 4 months ago
I do use a surge protector and tried plugging it straight into the wall outlet and it didn’t fix the problem
mmk
Could it be that I don’t have windows activated on my pc?
If you're using 10 i doubt that would be the problem
I have windows 10 but for some reason it keeps telling me I need to activate some windows thing and when I try to it says I need to buy it for $110 off the store D:
Well, the only old things on my pc is the gpu and the psu so I’m not sure if the gpu could be causing the shitting down problem if it’s not overheating. And I know the psu is good
Did you buy a key from Microsoft/official retail store that gave you a disc?
If you bought it off eBay or such it may be invalid
No, that’s what I’m saying I don’t have. Could that really be the problem for it randomly shutting down though? And no, I have never bought a key so there’s nothing to even be invalid
All it does is lock personalization features currently and put a water mark, but if it bothers you that much but it
No
Not 10
Ok, well then that’s not the problem. It doesn’t bother me that much tbh.
How's it randomly shutting down?
I’ve done a sfc/scannow in admin and nothing came up
Like, doing something and freeze, blacks screens, bsod, normal shutdown where it closes apps out?
It’s literally just shutting down, black screening, with no warning or anything
Did you take out 1 stick of ram? Try 1 at a time
Could be anything
did the memory test come up with anything
I’m still waiting for the memory scan to get done. It’s at 60% with no problems of memory detected
But it may also be a faulty cpu
If a CPU is damaged it may at first boot and do stuff
Same with a bad motherboard
I will try ram next. And ya I’ve come to the terms that it’s probably faulty cpu, it doesn’t do anything at boot screen that I know of.
Well if a core is damaged it can still boot
It may also be a faulty disk drive or ssd
But not likely
Ya, I have an m2 and a hard drive and they work and function fine. Honestly, my last resort is the cpu and mono
Mobo
Right so I possibly could be, but is there any other way to see if there is a damaged core other than buying a new one?
For your CPU are you using the stock cooler?
Cooler Master you mean
Ya lol
did you apply the right amount of thermal paste and applied the cooler on properly?
yup, everything is the way it should be
And also when you placed the cooler did you do it inside or outside the case
outside of the case because there are mounts that require you to take the mobo out of the case to put in
Well most cases have a cut out on the other side so you can use back plates
Ya, I mean I could have done that, but we decided since we originally thought it was my CPU overheating because I was using the original cpu fan. so we decided to unplug eberything to also rule out the maybe something wasn't plugged in correctly.
Should just check all connections as a just in case
ok so, I looked through my event log in my pc and it is showing an event where my pc randomly shuts down. It keeps giving me a Kernel-power (event ID 41) error. I looked online and its saying that it has to do with a power issue. I'm not sure what kind of power issue it could be, considering I've already tried to change out the psu
I still say Ram....
will the r9 3900x ever be back in stock. Find out next time on CP-U Zeeeee
I prefer Dragon Ball P 😛
Would the x570 aorus pro wifi be a good motherboard for overclocking ram past 3200 mhz?
ROg Maximus XI Hero (wifi) MOBO, which slot is best to put a m.2 drive?
@copper solar
best? uhhhh the top one first
so the one closer to the pcie?
i just put it there because its designated first m.2 slot
oh u have same board?
yes
2
whats the other thing by the pcie ports looks like another slot
oh nvm i was looking at the wrong thing
Put it in A
One more Q. This Mobo has onboard memory do I have to go into bios and disable it maually when i install the GPU
No
Ah nice graph, thanks. what if I want to put another one later on is it gonna run slower in b?
Awesome. sorry for the newbie questions its been 8 years since I built a PC
Thanks for the helps
It will disable sata port if you install an m.2 sata drive though
So make sure it's nvme if you don't want that to happen
Read the manual
:0
Which sata port, is that used for a hard drive?
got it.
yeah im installing the 970 pro its nvme
Definetly gonna read the manual im getting the mobo tomorrow just trying to get a head start
kool thanks
3950x + X570 Master?
Perfectly fine.
@copper solar intel shill


Anyone know how to get the screws to reach? I took the heat sync off after installation to check a cpu error now I cant get it back on
Ryzen 5 2600x
Also, have the mobo in the case still. Do I need to take it out to reinstall?
lossen the other screws then make sure every other screw is at least grabbing the back plate before tightening @jolly gust
might need to push the back plate more against the mobo to actually have it flush against it
so that the screws can grab them
I'm lookin to add some more ram to what i have. the sticks i have all dont end with a K but i can only find ones online that end with a K is this still oK?
the model numbers i have for the ram i have all end with a K but the ones I see online don't end with K
Send us a pic of the model number. If it ends in K, it might be a higher bin kit of b-die G-skill ripjaws , vs non K. e.g. 3200c14 vs 3200c16
Anyone know what this means when I start my Mobo ? Fans work. Computer doesn't bout
Already reseated the CPU and everything
I think it's the CPU led but idk what it could be.
@jolly gust it may be the ram led from the position. If you have already reseated those as well then try disconnecting all power to the computer for about a minute and try again. I have that happen to me once in a while and that's usually all it takes to get it back running.
Should I reseat them to slots a1 and b1 @split garnet
Wouldn't hurt to try. That could be the problem since you are only running 2 sticks instead of 4. When running only 2 most mobo want them in those spots.
Usually A2 B2 are the convention. Some T Toplogy boards don't specify.
There's asterisks beside a2 and b2
But I agree, re-seating them can't hurt. I'd try one stick at a time in each slot if that's what it takes.
I have a guess - the cooler didn't mount well because the CPU has one or more bent pins which are a common cause for not only failure to post but, in minor cases, dead memory channels.
I didn't see any bent pins when I checked it the 2nd time
I'd at least try each stick in one A and one B channel, then repeat with the other stick. Thermal problems aside, I can't imagine it's likely you'll cause more damage unless you set bios voltages manually.
Didn't you mention something about non-matching memory SKU's?
Not sure what that is but I don't think so
You lucked out, it's samsung b, since it's ver 4.32
Maybe if I try to switch the 8 pin CPU connector around?
Can't hurt to snap us a few pics of the insides
I am excited about getting a new cpu
I want to see how far I can overclock my existing ram before I make a decision
I want to ditch x570 for x299, probably a dark , maybe the R6EE
YO
And go quad 63xx for the AMD build
Random, if any of you all want to edit that POST screen to say funny stuff, hmu
What's going on down here? jrfp1 / 2, hd audio out? and... a wifi card?
Low priority, but may I suggest moving that top fan one slot towards the rear?
Should pull less hottish GPU air into the CPU. This is very much nitpicking btw.
Good idea. I had a fan behind it but it was plugged up to the wrong thing
I kinda have to keep my advice in check with that I think will leave the consumer fairly satisfied, but also without closing any doors for them in the future.
Why recommend slot A? just curious, I'm often asked that question.
@quaint current
Doesn't that guys case have cable management?
Koala's? I'm the wrong one to ask
cause A would be the slot for the main one, so you would put it in their
What's up guys? Wanted to ask for a suggestion. I've finally decided on a CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) after receiving my case. Next purchase I'll be making is a motherboard. I was going to go with a x570. I'll have approximately $200 budgeted for that. Any suggestions on which would be best closest to that price range? Open to suggestions on alternative motherboards as well.
It's running at 3000c16
Do I need to plug something in those 2 slots? I have the ATX rog maximus xi hero
what two slots
thats the eps/cpu 12 volt
you can use either the 8 pin
or the 8pin+4pin
not JUST 4pin
8+4 is for extreme overclocking
8 is fine for most people
Yes, assuming you're holding both ends of the same cable.
Yes I am one of the ends is split into 4s though
Just align the clip on each 4 with the clip on the 8 pin input on the MB
Alright sounds good. Thanks for the help

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813119197 does this mobo support DDR4-3600
3200MHz is still the sweet spot and affordable
but will it take 3600?
isnt the x570 a new motherboard that just came out?
yeah
i dunno i tried using http://www.pc-specs.com but they didnt have it
Computer system hardware comparison and compatibility reports and news
prob a bad site to use
so newegg got a new shipment of 3900x's in today. Any idea how long it lasted before it sold out?
jeez. These things are becomming a cpu of legend only. Nearly impossible to get
just set a autonotify
whats shipment rate?
no clue
I did, by the time I woke up they were gone
yeah also might want to check r/amd or r/buildapcsales they might have posts when they're back in stock
id do it
You don’t even have a PC... lol
ok
thats hard to say. I would try to find c16 or c17 personally
18 and 19 is bottom of the barrel binning
I guess it could end up coming with hynix chips on the worse timing sticks, but at that speed and timing for either I have a hard time believing that it would make much difference
is it for a intel build or a ryzen? if its ryzen I would pay a little more for the faster ram
Intel
than it wouldnt matter as much
I9-9900k
cheaper ram will be good then.
might be able to find cheaper twin 16's if you dont care about populating all slots
that are faster CAS
I want pretty lights... lol.
ah than yea, your gonna pay for it than
may i recommend 3200mhz instead
cheaper for the pretty lights
and still plenty fast
I think even 3400 cas 16 would be faster
or would be really close unless you need a memory specific tasks
how are you using so mcuh ram
good question
Have 3000 now, and it’s plenty fast... but always like going bigger... May step down to 3200 or so
reformat your pc
look at the bottom, thats all i have open
standbylist cleaner? Valgrind is my jam - unrelated
I still say you have a virus
I think you do have a virus or malware or something
So?
if its a broken program even. Reformat and try again
Reason: Bad word usage
language please
if i had a virus i think it would be attacking other parts of my computer, instead of just filling my ram
Oops... was supposed to say Shut... lol
unlikely
i downloaded ram and got this "virus" thing
the whole idea of a good virus is to not make it super obvious to the user
did it work
Fist thing a Virus does is shuts down the antivirus so it can’t find it
so you either have a virus/malware. Or you have a broken/corrupt program leeching resources at an alarming rate
either way its going to harm your performance drasticly till its fixed
That’s why I use defender as my normal... and have Malwarebytes on a drive so it’s not affected
Ignoring it doesnt make it go away
or i have a memory leak.
back up your stuff on a known clean drive and reformat
i havent downloaded anything in a long time
boi...that doesnt mean anything
and i have antivirus that scans every web page i go to
Have you been online?? BOOM... potential virus
that still means nothing
im confident that my antivirus is doing its job
than find and fix your leak
if you cannot
than reformat and start fresh, monitoring the installs till you find whats causing the issue
👆👆👆👆
I removed SOOOOO many virus working at Office Depot and Staples... and they all had virus defenders too
im fixing the problem
im explaining that ive been trying to fix the problem, and i think the issue is i have a memory leak
but i cant figure out how to fox it
fix*
than reformat
ez fix
but it hasnt been bothering me since ive been busy with school
They just told you how..
cuz it can easily be something corrupt within a working program or windows
i dont wanna reformat personally
imma just leave for now
reformating now takes litterally like 30 minutes
and maybe 2 hours to reintall programs
Do you guys like tech trivia?
hmmn, this makes me question why I use avast when windows defender does the job XD
avast is borderline spamware at this point with its pointless "buy my stuff" bs
Defender does a decent job...
What drive being reformatted? Interested in input?
Really only had 1 virus... and it was my fault.
Ive had many false flags, but never an actual virus
how many tabs did you have open in chrome. what other taskbar processes did you have running
yea than somethings big time broke. I got like 3 game launchers, 25 tabs, discord. steam, graphics overclocking stuff and only using 8.5
whens the last time you reformatted?
never
I do it every year
good idea for future stuff is 2 seperate drives. One for games and such and one for other stuff. Main try to keep clean for easy formatting
I only format the main drive with the OS and deep scan the other 2
i have a laptop so if anything went wrong thats a no no
kinda laptop thats hard to open up too
oor theres always partitions
@shadow seal fast storage is great these days. What kind of build you running?
an old setup im looking to replace at the end/eginning of the this/next year. 6700k, gigabyte gaming 7 z170. 24 gigs ram because a single stick died at 2400. Haf X case, twin 1070 FTW's 1,000 Watt G2 supernova, thermaltake 240 rgb aio. WD black HD (main) 1TB, 1.5 TB blue, and a Samsung evo SSD 500 gig
overhauling most this rig is gonna cost me like 2 grand when im done
I feel your pain zack. cleaning up my laptop today too
Nice attention to detail, I usually just have peple run a userbench because it's a ton of info in 2 minuts.
i tried cleaning my google drive, but the site is too slow
cant do it
chromebooks garbage
When do you get new pc
hopefully in the next couple months
uh hoping that 3900x availability improves by the end of the year. thats kind of the wall atm. I should have my credit cards cleared by then
3900x, 32 gigs Trident Z royals, x570 Auorus master, 1 tb blue SSD (main) 1tb NVME (games) and 500 gig secondary SSD with the 1.5 tb as a backup. H500M case, swapping my AIO over since it still works fine. Then when Nvidias next gen 3080Ti or w/e its called hits ill get that to replace my 1070's
then ill rebuild my old PC and sell it, and the cycle will continue
anger intensifies
so apparently it was supposed to say the results of the memory diagnostic test after i logged back in
i logged in and nothing happened
It's not in event viewer?
thats not event viewer
my mistake
it should be in Event Viewer>Windows Logs>System then select ‘memory diagnostic results’.
Hey can anyone help me?
Think you are beyond help... lol
ill take a look @royal pecan
thx for the help
if it doesnt work imma just wait till i get my new computer which will have 64gb of ram 
Get your hw done before tackling the memory leak first
its already done
Do you have killer network app?
never heard of it
its an ethernet thing. A software packaged with drivers. The app itself does nothing but cause issues. I’m investigating that as the cause of my high memory usage.
hm
I got a feeling you didn't do your homework 😛
Alright. I think my 8600k is either dying or my psu is causing extreme stuttering
Or maybe your motherboard?
Did you overclock your 8600K
Yeah but even under locked it stutters.
I am running that and a 2060 on a 450 watt psu with both of them overclocked.
I have a suspicion that it's my power delivery
id tend to agree you may be right a the edge of the psu
You pretty much would of needed at least a 550w
i always say go a little higher over what is recommended for your system
My system recommends 550 watts.
Should probably be 600 watgs
If it recommends 550w why are you using a 450w
I replaced components and couldn't afford a stronger psu
Oh great
How TF is this thing running
you could seriously damage things, be careful
My roommates wattage tester says 535 watt power draw on stress test. Why is my psu letting that run
Put the 8400 back in for now until you have a better PSU
I've had the 8600k in there for like 4 months. If I don't overclock either I go down to 430 watts.
I ordered a 600 watt from best buy.
🤦
cheaper to get from an actual PC store or on Newegg
The only thing i would buy at a bestbuy is a new TV i wouldn't even bother buying any computer hardware from there
@shy wyvern Tell me how much did you pay on bestbuy and which PSU did you get
Evga 600 watt bronze 80+. My current one is the 450 watt model and has served me for 4 years.
And I paid only 45 cause I had a 40% off birthday coupon
Well actually it was like 47.8something. free shipping
Originally $80
It's the modular one
It's 75 on Newegg
whats so surprising
It's not bad for under $50
you can find decent psus for like 50 bucks
Like I think that's psu for under $50 is not a bad feal
i just had a bit of extra money left to spare
Is that EVGA 600 watt bq 80+ a good deal for $48?
ye
i was gonna get evga
but i saw reviews and there were some bad reviews about it
so i just noped outta there
for me, there were enough bad reviews to UNconvince me of that psu
so i went with corsair
I've had great success with EVGA. First power supply was a 500 watt with a 3 year warranty, it lasted for 5.
i didnt say it was bad
i just didnt want to take any chances with my first ever build
so i was a bit paranoid
My dad's computer got fried from a Corsair psu.
He plugged it in and his computer instantly fried. His board blew some capacitors. Smelled awful.
Just some units are bad, it's a risk you take with all components.
Corsairs customer service pissed me off too. Told my dad "it sounds like a bad motherboard" and don't honor the warranty
He used that motherboard for 4 months prior
dang that sucks
He has a 9900k and a 1080 in there. Both just fried
Had*
He's using the 7700k and 950 he upgraded from now.
Both Corsair and EVGA use a variety of PSU manufacturers. I prefer EVGA/s warranty policy and customer support.
^
They offered me a %20 off coupon when I called customer service when my 500 watt psu fried. It was 2 years out of warranty
Used it to buy my current 450 watt one
I like a good PSU convo
They're overlooked parts tbh
I might put this 450 watt to good use! Build my sister a gaming PC with the 8400 and 1060
not bad
It's play games on ultra settings still.
I just got greedy and jumped on a $220 + $30 shipping rtx 2060
Only reason why I don't use the 1060 anymore. 450 watts is more than enough for that card
Eh
Not that good of a deal, is it? 😝 It was used 2 days beforehand
Just for 2 days
It's the ventus oc model which has terrible cooling. Runs at 87° at full load slightly overclocked even with the premium thermal grizzly stuff used.
still lucky
Kryonaut?
Yes
Checked my Amazon order history
I didn't want liquid metal since I have mild dyspraxia and liquid metal + motor skills deficiency = dead components.
Kryonaut is more than fine for that type of use. Don't bother with LM unless you want to overclock/mod for fun's sake.
I was trying to push my i5 8600k to 5.3 GHz but I was hitting 93 degree temps
Liquid metal would be nice
That chip is legit the definition of the silicon lottery. 1.4 volts and 5.3 ghz stable. Just extremely hot.
I de-lidded my 7700k and used conductonaut under the IHS. Good results, but I did so for fun, not because I needed 300MHz haha.
What AVX offset?
8600k shouldn't be too bad since, it's the HT on the 8700k that pushes many to de-lid and LM for a 2-300 MHz gain.
I had to set it to 2 I believe
I had to put it back because 93 degrees is too hot. That cpu would die pretty fast
It jumping up to 93-95 degrees and back down to 40-50 when gaming will start to cause issues
What was the thermal load though? Temps are meaningless without giving watts, e.g. package power etc
what did you do?
was there any indication everything came out normal or was it one of those where it was all hex
@hardy prairie @naive pendant Easier here
Alright
So I should go for that ram you said? It’s the best possible for my setup?
@naive pendant
What's the budget again? Including monitor
His budget is 2 grand
Oh, nice
But ya, if budget isn't really a concern, this is great, but really hard to justify the price.
Rare kit, unsure if it'll run as intended. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820232306
Alright I’ll add that on my list
Those are more compatible for Intel
I heard it was good for amd
Idk, most people just buy 3200c14 b-die and OC to whatever they want. I'd never buy 4000c19 or something.
My msi gaming edge x570 is not getting power. Anyone got any ideas what's wrong?
Did you connect the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors?
Yes
You need more juice https://i.gyazo.com/4ee5a44fa651c9964dd43f050c734978.png
I have a 750w
Do you have all those connected in
If you're interested in sharing some pictures of the build and where the cables are routed, we'd be happy to take a look.
Does it need the cpu to power it?
Take a picture of inside your system
Okay
Unless you're using the BIOS flashback capability, yes, you'd have to have the CPU installed to power on.
@naive pendant Doesn't he need to fill in that 4 pin as well?
Almost always no, but I think I remember reading that specific manual saying you do. TBH it shouldn't matter, but might as well check everything else in the processs
Well if it is not booting i would assume that is the cause of it all
I'll see what I can do real quick
Could you show the complete connection between each cable end
Also the pins that you're using to pwr_sw
so there is CPU pwr 1 and 2
I guess I need to buy a 2x4
Or a 2x2
Because i have a cord that connects 2 2x2s to make a 4x4
I mean, there are still a lot of possible reasons for failure to power on. But it couldn't hurt to get an adapter as long as you're careful.
I eliminated some ram roo
This is why if i plan on going for the 3000 series i want there to be a B550 board
The more you can describe or show about what's going on the better we can guess
If there's no reaction from the power switch at all, it's likely that the PSU isn't connected properly, the power switch is inthe wrong spot etc
Even if you had a dead short, there'd be a click and you'd see tha fans spin
Well I plugged them into the same spots as the manual says and in the same spots as my old board and ingot power
Could it be a defect board?
ingot power?
No worries, I thought that was the name of PSU or something
So it's not the power switch
It could be a defuct board, but unlikely.
Could you show a closeup of the power switch connection





