#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 76

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Does smaller really matter?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Only for cost. Larger SSDs are almost always faster

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:23 AM

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I mean if u don’t need more storage why spend the extra money

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Oh that’s true

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Especially if you have a budget drive like the $85 1TB 660p

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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I just have 2x 250GB SATA SSDs rn

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So I'm thinking about dumping $460 into a 2TB Aorus M.2

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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ye

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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But idk

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Get a used 900p for $250 😃

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Hmmmmm

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:25 AM

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https://puu.sh/DUhMV/ad54156995.png
https://puu.sh/DUhEt/9959e8a892.png

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One is a 970 pro, the other is a 905p

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See how they're very similar except for 4k random read at low queue dept 1 thread?

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Btw @maiden shell if ur willing to drop a little more there’s this with the godlike

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AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8 GHz (4.6 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000023BOX Desktop Processor, MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE AM4 AMD X570 AMD Motherboard https://m.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?m_ver=1&ItemList=Combo.3920808

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Oh, also, if you already have the aorus drive, it's perfectly good for a windows boot

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:29 AM

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What mobo would u take for a 3600x

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Building my friend a pc

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The ASRock x570 steel legend is $190 rn

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I'd say either go 3600 or 3700x

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But ya, there are a lot of good options, might come down to whatever has the best combo. Like say there was a $40 discount on the aorus pro/ultra + 3700x. That's a great match for a gaming PC.

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The elite has the same powerful VRM as those two but has a crappy on board audio

devout mothBOT Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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entropy#0705 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Deal

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oof

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oops

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Frick u MEE6

shy wyvern Jul 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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$135 ryzen 2600 on Newegg with free Xbox gamepass for pc

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That's a good deal.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Not bad. Though, the 2700 was just on sale for 150

proud widget Jul 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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MEE6 takes no prisoners. lol

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Well said

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Bored

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Is that boredom?

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Cus me too

tulip flint Jul 24, 2019, 7:15 AM

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So I recently learned that my 2 16 gig kits off dominator platinum ram don't play nice with each other leading to crashing, so debating swapping them for gskill trident rgb 3200 kit, any opinions on that?

fair iron Jul 24, 2019, 11:49 AM

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I like G Skills stuff, did you confirm its def your ram

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I wonder when they are going to restock 3900x's to where they don't go out of stock lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 PM

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What are the speed/timings on each kit? Both dominator platinum and trident z come in such a wide range of performance ratings.

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Also what CPU/MB?

upbeat kraken Jul 24, 2019, 2:02 PM

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the PCI-e 4.0 NVMe SSDs are much faster than gen 3 in everything, not just the sequential, but in many use cases you still won't feel much diff is the thing, because it already isn't the main bottleneck even with a regular PCI-e 3.0 NVMe

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Really? They have significantly faster QD1 4k random read? 50MB/s is about par for a high end NVME 500GB drive

upbeat kraken Jul 24, 2019, 2:05 PM

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OK, maybe not that particular metric, I'm not sure, but, they are pretty much caught up to Optane 900p in most tests

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:05 PM

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just get you a nice 970 EVO Plus and you will be happy

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fair iron Jul 24, 2019, 2:08 PM

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+1 to what Austin said

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All you need is an Evo plus 500gb for like 110$ and your good

upbeat kraken Jul 24, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I'm feeling like I want to try and stick to 1tb minimum size going forward

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:09 PM

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905p left, 970 pro 500 right https://puu.sh/DWN3m/9aa23591b8.png

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:09 PM

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less the 200MBs

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The 1TB EVOs go on sale all the time

upbeat kraken Jul 24, 2019, 2:10 PM

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I feel like a Mushkin Enhanced Pilot 1tb for example, is still fast enough to feel more or less the same as a nice Samsung

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:10 PM

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if you can get it for 200-220 you are golden

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Ya, that 970 evo 1TB for 170 or something was a very good option for a lot of users imo

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Highish end builds at least

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:10 PM

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yeah, I will probably grab one the next time they get that cheap

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Just for simplicity sake. No fuss with trying to keep downloads, temp, whatever elsewhere

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Yeah the heatcover for my board is keeping the temps pretty low during read/write cycles

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:11 PM

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And unless you have slow internet that would prohibit downloading/deleting steam games as needed, very feasible to just keep all progams on the boot as well

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haha I'll try make my 970 pro throttle

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Yeah I have my OS and the major games on the EVO, everything else is on the 2 TB WD Blue

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Still faster than a HDD but I dont mind a little slower load times on those games

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Battlefield V takes like no time to load on the EVO

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coming from a 5400RPM HDD

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Ya, honestly NVME vs sata is pretty miniscule load time difference. That kind of stuff is pretty single core CPU limited, but somewhat random read 4k QD1 performance

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Yeah the 860s are nice as well

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I have always got really good performance out of my Samsung ssds

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but I had to get off* the 128GB one

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can fit windows and like 3 games on it lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I've had an 830 128, 850 256, two 860 1TB, 250/500 960 evo, 3 970 pro, definitely a samsung addict haha

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Yeah, I am just waiting until black friday before I go ham again

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I have spent way too much on this build already lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Before that 5-8 or something 1TB samsung F3 Satas, two F4 2TB's. Lots of those Sata's failed though

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But not a single ssd.

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Yeah, my original Samsung is now like 7 years old and still running solid

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always overprovisioned it and it just keeps on kicking lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Magician has always been clean looking and bug free since I started using it

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Cough, EVGA PX1

tulip flint Jul 24, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@fair iron @naive pendant both the kits are 3000 mhz, cas15, but they're different version numbers, I contacted corsair about it and they said that they don't recommend mixing version numbers because they can cause stability issues

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And I have Asus rog maximus hero x mobo, and 8700k

fair iron Jul 24, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Interesting

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:11 PM

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What model numbers on the dimms, picture would be easiest maybe

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Regardless, ya maybe they use different secondary timings etc

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Does anyone know if it's possible to change core cpu voltage on an MSI H81m-e33 mono? I'm trying to oc and I see no setting for that.

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:39 PM

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not off the top of my head but let me see what I can find

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:39 PM

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mobo*

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Thank you

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Do you have a K series processor?

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For overclocking you need a motherboard from Z series. Matched with procesor that has K suffix.
H and B series are not overclockable.

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Yes i7 4790k

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:40 PM

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=284993.0

can the H81M-E33 overclock

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Thats from a Global mod on MSI's forums

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Ok I read in another forum that they did eventually make the 81 chipset overclockable

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Looks like you would have to use 3rd party tuning software but that is going to give small OC options

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What is your BIOS version?

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You may just need to update to the latest to enable it

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Just updated to 6.7

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:42 PM

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got yah

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If that's the latest BIOS revision you would be able to see it in the BIOS if it was available

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I use Intel extreme tuning but core voltage is grayed out and it fails to unlock the cpu

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Yeah most likely the board doesn't support it then

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Vcore isn't in the BIOS. And I said I can change the core/uncore ratios but not the voltage. BIOS manual confirms there are no voltage settings. It's the most up to date version; i reflashed it recently even though I already had it up to date, just to make sure it wasn't funky.

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Hmm maybe I will look closer. I literally just updated it minutes ago

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:44 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/4bvoij/can_i_overclock_an_i54690k_on_an_h81mp33_board/

r/overclocking - Can I overclock an i5-4690k on an H81M-P33 board?

3 votes and 32 comments so far on Reddit

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this was 3 years ago though

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Ok I see

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Thanks

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:45 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT0JMlUSCGo

YouTube

RandomGaminginHD

Intel Pentium G3258 + MSI H81M-P33 Overclocking Guide - The Simple Way

How to overclock the Intel Pentium G3258 the simple way using the MSI H81M-P33 motherboard. It just takes two minutes to turn this great little CPU into a li...

▶ Play video

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Evenif the bios let you, let's pretend we flash a modded bios, you probably wouldn't want to that much due to the board's likely heatsink-less VRM's ensuing cookoff

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I know "ermagerd not enough VRM" is kinda overblown, but like most cases of too little vrm, you'd have to really *try to screw something up haha

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Lol

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:47 PM

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yeah, if they can't handle the heat then most likely they are not going to let you overclock 😛

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dont need VRMs bursting

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:47 PM

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So far I'm able to oc to 4.4ghz. Any higher and bsd

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Likely the MOS would burn up and fail short, PSU OCP should shut it down (hopefully)

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Guess I need to get a new board

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Nothing wrong with not overclocking the extra margin you'd gain from upgrading board

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Yeah just seeing how far I can push it

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:49 PM

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TBH, upgrading to x570+3600 or if you prefer some z370 used + a 9700KF for close to $300 wouldn't be bad at all

safe gale Jul 24, 2019, 5:50 PM

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That sounds great. I think I'll look into that

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Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it. I'm new at overclocking

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:50 PM

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What is the best X570 motherboard I can get for around $300? I'm looking at the Taichi, the Strix-E, and the Aorus Master.

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I've heard lots of conflicting things about the Taichi, like chipset fan is blocked, etc.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Taichi is nice if you want 4 memory sticks, master is better for 2

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I went with the Strix-f

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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but then I've heard that it doesn't matter

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I have 4 sticks of 8GB for memory

tulip flint Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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doesn't the 9700KF need a z390 board?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Crosshair 8 hero and Master are pretty similar. There are 4-5 regulars here with masters, we have a group chat haha

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I think Z370 works for it too @tulip flint

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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z370 can run 9700k

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I run a 9700k in a z270 lol

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:52 PM

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@naive pendant I do really like the master but I haven't found a huge "aha! yes! I need this over x" yet to yield the $60 more pricetag over the taichi for example.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:52 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IY6W6YhyjnzSvi8BqEqiK1xykSiTDF2Lt1FO8cNhI6I/edit?usp=sharing

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:53 PM

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except for maybe the fact that it's true 12 phase over 6x2 with doublers.

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I'm getting a 3900X if that makes a difference.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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If you go cheaper, the aorus pro/ultra have a better audio chip than the elite, though all three have enough vrm for whatever you want

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119195?Item=N82E16813119195

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Thats the one I went with for my 3900x

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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I looked at that and also the Strix X570-E.

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I think the E has built-in wifi

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Yup

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Wasn't something I needed so the -f worked for me

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Ah gotcha.

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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its also has the BIOS reset button as well

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I wouldn't get anything asus for the 3900x under the C8H which is kinda overkill unless you want the extra overclocking features

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I hear bad things about Asus's QC/RMA process, correct me if I'm wrong.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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which the Master has as well

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Asus is kinda hit or miss with both Q/C and customer service these days

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Yeah..

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:57 PM

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From someone who owns 4 asus intel boards haha

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:57 PM

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I do like the Master but again I just can't see the $60 more being worth it for me.

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And I'm still waiting for Micro Center to restock the 3900X ugh

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:57 PM

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heard that

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I bought mine direct from AMD and still got it sooner than any stores around me

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I think the Taichi looks pretty good for me.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Ya, the $350 premium that the master and crosshair hero sit at is partly due to the robust VRM, but largely because of the overclocking friendly features like that debug LED

burnt plinth Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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They are pretty good boards

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Taichi has the debug too, yeah.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Go taichi for 4 memory dimms, crosshair or master for 2

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I have 4x8GB for RAM.

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I play Cities: Skylines lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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What ram

vital edge Jul 24, 2019, 5:59 PM

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ballistix LT 2666 that i have oc'd to 3000

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i didn't get to play with it anymore because resetting CMOS on my current board is a bad time

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Oops, pasted the wrong one earlier.
VRM tierlist https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png
AM4 motherboard master list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o

sullen plinth Jul 25, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I have no idea what to look for in a motherboard, quite frankly.
Trying for an AM4.

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HssCfH

Any compatible mobo suggestions?

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I'm aware there's literally a list right above this message

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But there's so many, what do I go for?

sullen plinth Jul 25, 2019, 3:57 PM

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If you don't overclock, every board is fine.
Need PCI4 go for x570
Need SLI go for x470
All else b450```
Is what concluded from my research

worn night Jul 25, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I have an ASRock B450 ITX board and it seems to do the job for me

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Last 2 builds I did for friends was an ASUS ROG B450 and Gigabyte B350 and they seemed to hold up well

limber warren Jul 25, 2019, 5:40 PM

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@sullen plinth What cpu do u have/will u get

sullen plinth Jul 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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3700x, but I've decided on the asus tuf x570 plus, thanks!

limber warren Jul 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Nice, np

earnest zinc Jul 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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the 3900x was finally available on AMD's website today, so I grabbed it while I could. My entire build is just sitting around waiting for it, lol. To add to the convo I went with the ASRock x570 Phantom Gaming X mobo.

naive pendant Jul 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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On the bright sight, Asrock's bios hiccups might be ironed out before build day.

limber warren Jul 25, 2019, 7:37 PM

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AMD is making some f*cking bank aren’t they

earnest zinc Jul 25, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yea, good for them. 😃 My two intel builds were great, but I'm glad to be back on board with them since my first gaming PC was AMD

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9850? I forget. Ran Super hot.

thorny gate Jul 25, 2019, 8:06 PM

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what exactly is a open box product?

naive pendant Jul 25, 2019, 8:11 PM

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@thorny gate Typically, open-box items are goods returned by customers, inspected by the retailer, found to be in working order, and re-sold at a discount, rather than returned to the manufacturer.

thorny gate Jul 25, 2019, 8:14 PM

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are they ok to buy as a motherboard? looking to get a x470 asus strix cant afford the x570

naive pendant Jul 25, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@thorny gate That x470 is fine, you may have to update the BIOS when you get it though to work with the new 3000 series CPU's unless you happen to get one that has the newest BIOS. I guess you'll find out when you get it if you get it.

thorny gate Jul 25, 2019, 9:19 PM

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i plan on going 3000 but atm im using a asrock x370 fatality gaming x

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i have a 1700

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gonna get the x470-f strix then ill get 3700x later but yea i always update all my bios

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wondering if ill get a better overclock currently running 3.8ghz 1.375v

oblique steeple Jul 25, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Hmm do what CPU should I get to go with my RX 5700 XT

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3900x or 3800x?

weak hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 9:51 PM

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9900k :p

naive pendant Jul 25, 2019, 9:51 PM

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What's your build timeline like? I think the 3600, 3700x, and 3900x have the best performance per dollar with the 3700x fitting the 5700xt best. Do you plan to get a reference cooler? Or do you plan to wait for the partner cards scheduled to release soon.

oblique steeple Jul 25, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I already have a 5700 XT anniversary

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I plan to upgrade CPU, Mobo and RAM by around Cyber Monday if anything good goes on sale.

weak hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 9:57 PM

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i'd go 3900x

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why not

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if you can budget it

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though bigger isn't always better.

oblique steeple Jul 25, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Yeah

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Mostly just a gaming and streaming at 1440p build

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3900x + X570 aorus master?

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I just don't wanna pay too much for a CPU I don't use fully

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But budget isn't really an issue

naive pendant Jul 25, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I think the 3900x is an easy choice if you already own a suitable motherboard with sufficient VRM capacity. But some of the lower end x570 boards like the ITX Gigabyte have been measured to hit 80C on the MOSFETs . The x570 Master is a great option for any chip imo. I have one myself.

oblique steeple Jul 25, 2019, 10:08 PM

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So 3900x then

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When it comes back in stock...

weak hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 10:13 PM

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if

oblique steeple Jul 25, 2019, 11:23 PM

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When

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:14 AM

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do i need a high end board better than a asus x470-f strix to overclock 3700x?

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using 3200mhz gskill trident z rgb

oblique steeple Jul 26, 2019, 2:15 AM

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I think you just need a BIOS update

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If you have a Mobo below x570

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:15 AM

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yea but will the vrm be ebough or will i need x570

sullen plinth Jul 26, 2019, 2:16 AM

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If you don't overclock, every board is fine.
Need PCI4 go for x570
Need SLI go for x470
All else b450

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granted, it depends WHICH x470

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but thats the general rule of thumb I came across

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:16 AM

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im talking asus strix rog x470-f

livid seal Jul 26, 2019, 2:16 AM

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yo guys i got a question

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:17 AM

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atm im using a r7 1700 so not an issue atm

sullen plinth Jul 26, 2019, 2:17 AM

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It should be pretty good

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:17 AM

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currently using asrock fatality x370 gaming x motherboard

sullen plinth Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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asus x470-f strix should be more than fine to OC on 3700x

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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could i get higher overclock using that new board?

livid seal Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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so i have a 1050ti and a i5 7600k and 8gb of ddr4 and for some reason more recently rainbow six siege has been blasting my cpu and it killing my fps why and what can i do to fix other than getting a new cpu because im planning on that later

heavy lintel Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Still going at it eh

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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im currently at 3.8ghz 1.375

sullen plinth Jul 26, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Not in a way that matters I believe

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if you could oc more I'd wager it'd be minimal in comparison to cost

thorny gate Jul 26, 2019, 2:19 AM

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was waiting on strix to push higher since it has AI overclocking to try and get max

atomic onyx Jul 26, 2019, 7:22 PM

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@livid seal I have a i5 7600k with 16gb of DDR4 with a GTX 1060 6gb, I have not noticed any performance drops recently. How long has it been since you did a fresh install of your OS?

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Hya, was wondering if anyone can help me out with a problem. Built my new pc i9 9900k, Rog Maximus Hero XI mobo, 3600mhz 4x8gb ddr corsair ram. Every time I swap my ram to a higher than auto speed my pc goes into a restart loop. Any suggestions what it could be? Thanks in advance. If needed I'll provide more info

empty oracle Jul 27, 2019, 1:59 AM

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i dunno

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have you tried reseating the ram?

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i know thats pretty much the solution to most build problems

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 2:00 AM

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I will need to do that tomorrow, since it's a bit late now and I need to reseat the rgb connector since the boards rgb isn't on at all. :/

empty oracle Jul 27, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Mobo rgb isn't on?

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that sounds like a minor problem

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and by minor

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i mean serious

gentle lintel Jul 27, 2019, 2:01 AM

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he said connector though

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So i'm assuming its a connector to his board.

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Nah I think it might be the connector under the shield IO it's working fine otherwise

empty oracle Jul 27, 2019, 2:02 AM

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ok

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bc thats kinda bad news

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 2:03 AM

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If it is gone I'll just rma it since it's a part I bought 2-3 days ago but only got all parts to build the pc today

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 2:09 AM

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What do you mean by higher than auto? screenshots of the dram timing settings menu would help, also check out the screenshot to flash drive feature on ROG boards. I got one too, one of the best bios's imo.

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 2:11 AM

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When you go into bios DRAM frequency is set to auto if I change it to 3600mhz it just goes into a restart loop when I save and restart. I'll post screens and a clip tomorrow since it's late.

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Have you tried setting ai overclock tuner to XMP?

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If not, try that and don't touch the rest, should work

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Pardon if I misread and that is what you did

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 2:12 AM

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I'll give it a go. New to the ROG mobos, haven't built a system in a while. 😄

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 2:12 AM

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No problem. I got a few of them so ask away haha.

empty oracle Jul 27, 2019, 2:12 AM

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hey

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can anyone help me make sure im ready to build?

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wanna make sure i need something and then find out tommorrow that i don;t have

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Hey I need some help, I am trying to enable XMP in my bios I have an ASUS Prime B450 Plus and some Patriot DDR4 3000. I am trying to get it to run @ 3000, but it wont for some reason. I cannot find the XMP settings in my bios, and even through while in the BIOS it says my ram is running @ 3000 mHz, I run CPUz and it says that it is running at 1066. Can someone please help me?

vivid elm Jul 27, 2019, 3:24 AM

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can you send a screenshot of your CPUZ screen?

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:26 AM

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which page?

vivid elm Jul 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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memory or the SPD for one slot

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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k

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vivid elm Jul 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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you're all good

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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It's working as intended

vivid elm Jul 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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double the frequency and you get ~3000

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Technically we should say 3000MT/s since the DRAM clock running at 1500MHz transfers data on both the rise and fall of the clock edge.

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But that's pedantic

vivid elm Jul 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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but we need to make people think things are better than they are :7

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Ok I guess I am just not seeing it

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however if you guys say I am good, then I will trust you, if the guys on Newegg don't know what they are talking about, then who does? 😃 😃 😃

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thanks guys

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 AM

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@naive pendant I sorted it out, found the XMP profiles and loaded XMP 1 up and it works fine now. And the RGB on the board is working it's just dim so I need to fiddle with it in the software. Now I need to figure out why MSI MysticLight doesn't work, so I can change my 2070 Super RGB from rainbow to solid. Thanks for the help.

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 AM

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😃

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Now the main question how far do you think I can push the 9900k on a beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4? retroHMM

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 9:24 AM

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@pearl flume depends

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What motherboard?

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Btw i have a 9900k so

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And ive overclocked memory too

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 9:46 AM

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?

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 12:17 PM

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ROG Maximus Hero XI

timber jungle Jul 27, 2019, 4:53 PM

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That board and chip have the highest scores for that chip... the OC capacity is huge on that MOBO

pearl flume Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Yeah I knew there is a lot of headroom just don't know how high can I go with an air cooler (beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4)

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Depends on how lucky of a chip you got. But 5.0 all core -2AVX on 1.3V vcore under load is about par

limber warren Jul 27, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Should I invest in a 3900x for inventor pro? And I think I’ll get 32gb but can somebody double check that reasoning

naive pendant Jul 27, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Autodesk Inventor is heavily dependent on single thread performance so unless budget isn't a concern, the 3900x shouldn't be necessary. 16GB memory is fine for assemblies up to 500/1000 parts IME.

That being said, I wonder if by some chance the 3900x's larger L2 and L3 cache give a significant advantage. I'll test it out with the Invtentor benchmark tool on 3700x vs 9900k

https://apps.autodesk.com/INVNTOR/en/Detail/Index?id=3667345248776204460&appLang=en&os=Win32_64

limber warren Jul 27, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Wow thx so much

lean breach Jul 28, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Anybody know what a good upgrade from a i7 4770 would if I have a gtx 1070

proper scarab Jul 28, 2019, 12:43 AM

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i have an fx 8350. in order to upgrade i will need a new mother board a new cpu and new ram. any suggestions of where to look first?

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 12:49 AM

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@lean breach What's your budget? You could find a 4770k/4790k, but I'd recommend a new cpu/mobo/ram/NVME ssd.

@proper scarab What's your budget and intended use?

proper scarab Jul 28, 2019, 1:51 AM

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@naive pendant best value for midrange

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 2:58 AM

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If I set my ram to xmp, I fail to boot. I set it manually it boots, loads into windows fine. I can then power down. Then on boot bios and everything seems ok then windows encounters a blue screen with a stop code error and then gets stuck in a cannot repair windows loop. I can then set ram back to default, Everything is back to normal. Can't find any faults in the ram or windows.

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Why would it boot and load fine when the ram is set manually the 1st time and the 1st time only.?It's stable, through stress tests and everything but on powerup after that first shutdown windows is like no...

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 2:59 AM

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@gentle lintel When you set it manually, are you setting it to the specs that it is made for? It should say on the package btw.

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:00 AM

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yes

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It's odd to me as it boots and windows loads fine till restart.

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:02 AM

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@gentle lintel Try a RAM test with the RAM timings set to the factory settings - control panel, then system and security, then administrative tools then "windows memory diagnostic" and select "restart now and check for problems" and just wait and see if it finds errors.

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:03 AM

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by factory you mean setting them where it initially loads and then run wmd?

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:04 AM

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set them to the frequency and timings listed on the box

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:04 AM

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ok

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I've ran that with the settings set to auto which is 2133 and came up with nothing

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I haven't tried setting it and then running it

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:05 AM

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i would for the hell of it

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I just find it odd windows freaks out, after being perfectly fine the first time

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:06 AM

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let us know how the test goes?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:06 AM

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will do. give me a couple of minutes

timber jungle Jul 28, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Because it’s windows.... lol

sharp blaze Jul 28, 2019, 3:16 AM

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@copper solar its meeeee

copper solar Jul 28, 2019, 3:16 AM

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DeadInside

sharp blaze Jul 28, 2019, 3:21 AM

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gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Yeah, I'm really getting the because it's windows vibe lol.

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Well the tests can back with nothing found and windows booted up perfectly fine out of the tests

timber jungle Jul 28, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Make sure it’s all up to date... that fixes most issues

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Which is odd, unless running windows memory diag changes how windows loads.

timber jungle Jul 28, 2019, 3:33 AM

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All else fails, set all settings back to factory and change one thing at a time.

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:33 AM

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As i'm willing to bet windows fails to load if I do a normal restart

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Can't come with any google searches that sound like my problem. Everyone seems to either not have windows load at all or fails to post. Mine does an in between/

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Windows fails if my ram is set to anything but 2133 after second restart

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Why second restart?

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Why is everything ok the first time?

timber jungle Jul 28, 2019, 3:36 AM

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That is odd

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:36 AM

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It benches and stress tests great with the timings and everything set manually

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just can't power down or restart or windows bluescreens.

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It's just illogical and I'm not sure if it's to do with the ram or windows.

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Like if there was something critically wrong, a mem test would show something and windows would fail to load entirely or something along those lines.

shy wyvern Jul 28, 2019, 3:40 AM

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My 8600k is taking 113 watts, is that abnormal?

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:41 AM

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@gentle lintel What is the blue screen error message anyways? "whocrashed" can help show more about the error btw, you can download it here: https://www.resplendence.com/downloads when you install it you can do "analyze" and copy paste the results here.

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gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:42 AM

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stop code error

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then goes into a bootloop where the computer restarts, and then windows try to diagnose problem and refuses to load up.

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:44 AM

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yeah but there should be more info than just "stop code error". @gentle lintel

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:46 AM

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There should be as when I google theres more to the error on other peoples videos and stuff

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Mine literally just stop code error and nothing else after it

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Anyways going to restart and see what happens

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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@gentle lintel That's why you should try "whocrashed". It may be able to give more info.

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:48 AM

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hmmm, I got recommendation on a different thread for windows launch issues. and now I appear to be loading fine

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But now I really want to understand why lol

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Basically, Turned off windows fast boot in the power options.

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I understand it has to do with loading windows, But how is it connected to my ram frequency?

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 3:53 AM

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@gentle lintel Is this problem after a RAM upgrade or is it a new build?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 3:53 AM

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new build

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:02 AM

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@gentle lintel Earlier when you said "I can then set ram back to default, Everything is back to normal" did you mean that you do not get a blue screen at all when you do that?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:03 AM

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yep.

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Then I can set them. And will post and windows will load normally

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And everything appears great.

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On windows shutdown and power up, it bluescreens till set back.

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:04 AM

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so really what you're saying is that no matter what you do with RAM settings, you get a blue screen eventually, right?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:04 AM

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yep other than basic settings. As long as I don't shutdown windows its fine.

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:05 AM

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What is the exact RAM you have?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Corsair rgb pro 3200

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:05 AM

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what timings?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:06 AM

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https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance-PRO-RGB-Black/p/CMW16GX4M2C3200C16#tab-tech-specs

VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Ki...

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 overclocked memory lights up your PC with mesmerizing dynamic multi-zone RGB lighting, while delivering the best in DDR4 performance. Compatible with CORSAIR iCUE

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that 16 16 was a typo, didnt catch it, figured id post the corsair specs

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:09 AM

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considering the RAM passed the WMD test and no matter what RAM settings you use you still get a blue screen, why do you think it's a RAM problem at all and not something else?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:10 AM

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I'm not sure on the ram problem. I just know that the 2133 spd timings don't get a bluescreen.

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Anything other than that,windows loads fine, passes all memtests again and then on the next powerup windows bluescreens and then bootloops till set back

timber jungle Jul 28, 2019, 4:12 AM

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In Bios, I would use the Reset to default... if your trying to change the XMP setting... even with the MOBO setting it as auto... can fail.

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. Doing a bios refresh tends to fix any issues I have screwed with. Lol...

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:14 AM

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xmp fails to post, So i've already defaulted back. But setting ram timings/voltage manually works. Just windows after shutdown goes berserk

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@gentle lintel What is your exact mobo?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:15 AM

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asrock x470 master

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:15 AM

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do you know the bios version?

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:16 AM

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3.40

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Hmm your problem might be that your RAM is not in the compatibility list : https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X470 Master SLIac/index.asp#Memory

ASRock X470 Master SLI/ac

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen Series CPUs (Matisse, Summit Ridge, Raven Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge); Supports DDR4 3466+ (OC); 2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1; NVIDIA Quad SLI™, AMD Quad CrossFireX™; Graphics Output: HDMI; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Nichico...

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You might be able to get something to work though...you could try running your RAM at 3,000mhz

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@gentle lintel ^

gentle lintel Jul 28, 2019, 4:26 AM

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hmm it's on the list

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You have to look through the different AMD generations The higher cpu generation it appears on the list basically

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:28 AM

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What cpu, mobo and ram SKU?

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dsu9K1Nt_7apHBdiy0MWVPcYjf6nOlr9CtkkfN78tSo/edit?usp=sharing

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 8:11 AM

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📎 ram_timings.PNG

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so ive got these timings so far for 4000mhz, the yellow boxed ones are the ones ive set manually and im looking to edit more of the secondary timings like TFAW etc but would like some advice as im not so sure when it comes to these speeds, i currently have 4000mhz with dram at 1.42v and vccio/sa at 1.2v, i could potentially lower them just havent tested it i set them high to ensure i was able to anyway then do voltages last.

weak hamlet Jul 28, 2019, 3:53 PM

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is all that even necessary

naive pendant Jul 28, 2019, 4:24 PM

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@weak hamlet is all what?

fair iron Jul 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Input on x570 boards in the 350 range for a 3900x build?

stray quartz Jul 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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ok have a question. I have a i7 4790k with a gaming 7 gigabyte z97, and 16 gb ddr3 corsair vengeance ram. is upgrading to a amd 3600x and a x570 aorus pro wifi, 16gb ddr4 gskill ripjaw 3000 cl15 a good upgrade for gaming?

winter sundial Jul 29, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Depends on your graphics card but that looks like an awesome upgrade

naive pendant Jul 29, 2019, 1:02 AM

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I'd suggest getting a 3600 vs the 3600x for more value, the board seems fine, check for combo deals to save money.

3000c15 is about $65, people have reported good compatibility using Crucial Ballistix sport Micron E-die kits like this
I have one myself to test with a 3700x.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820164113

There's a lot of debate on whether faster ram matters, but if you want faster and don't mind paying $130, I'd recommend this.
3200c14 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820313712

quaint current Jul 29, 2019, 2:02 AM

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B die only improves FPS by like 2 tho over 3200cl16 e die for twice the price

naive pendant Jul 29, 2019, 2:37 AM

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I agree that there are diminishing gains when it comes to faster/tighter ram, especially on zen2.
I think 3000c15 and 3200c16 are good options for ryzen 3600 builds, most of those kits can OC anyway if they want more speed later.

I mention 3200c14 because some people don't mind paying a $60 premium on their $800 or more build if having b-die makes them happy.
I find that in some very specific cases, it can be the difference between a 100 fps and 120 fps 1%ile low on a 140fps cap.

In general I try to recommend 3200c16 or equivalent options on most builds, but also tell them that if they want to spend more, they can get more.

rapid cave Jul 29, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Hey I actually am having a bit of trouble here. I got a ROG STRIX 470 and popped a 3700x into it. Everything lit up; however the CPU fan failed to spin and the DRAM Lit up. I tried different RAM (Ripjaw 3000) but no beeps were sounding even when I totally removed them. I then attempted to remove the CPU (stock wraith cooler) to find that the thermal paste had formed a sticky bond with the CPU, bending a few prongs on its removal. I was lucky enough to get a return for the 3700x but the board isn’t giving me any indication that it works otherwise. When I put all the components back in with the CPU (moderately repaired, but I’m not exactly holdingout that it would work) nothing would light up anymore - the on-button being completely unresponsive. The RGB lighting along the edges of the MB still work but nothing else, reacts.

gentle lintel Jul 30, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Does your motherboard have a speaker built into it?

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If it doesnt @rapid cave you need to attach one. other wise it wont beep.

rapid cave Jul 30, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Ah, I’m not sure if it has one attached - I don’t believe so. I appreciate it!

graceful flame Jul 31, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Was the 3900x in stock on Newegg today?? My auto-notify reset the request day to today and I am very concerned that I missed out on it... again....

lean lodge Jul 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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i need some advis e here

graceful flame Jul 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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?

ripe fulcrum Jul 31, 2019, 8:55 AM

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@rapid cave you know he gotkicked off the show for fighting with a producer?

rapid cave Jul 31, 2019, 6:27 PM

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I was sure it was because he punched a writer, but yeah. Big sad

full flame Jul 31, 2019, 8:52 PM

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I got a MSI X570 ACE coming... Should I get the new G.Skill NEO memory for it? Or nah?

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 8:52 PM

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g.skill neo is great

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in specs

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in looks, well 🤢

full flame Jul 31, 2019, 8:53 PM

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in specs, yes lol but the Flare X works too...

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I'm looking at the 4x8gb set

sour estuary Jul 31, 2019, 9:44 PM

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so i decided to go and wait till there is a sale and buy 32gb of ram full set but i'm confused on the asus wording

does it support max of DDR 1866 or 1066?

📎 supports1.JPG

slender fossil Jul 31, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Max of 32 gbs

sour estuary Jul 31, 2019, 9:46 PM

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well do know that amount but the hz part i'm confused about

i hita discord bug can enter brings downa new line but
o wait never mind ``amd 100supports up to 1066``` no i was just confused why they add that.

pearl flume Jul 31, 2019, 9:46 PM

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It just lists the ones it supports, that's what it looks like to me

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But then that last bit is a bit weirdly worded. XD

quaint current Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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@urban ferry what neo looks hella nice

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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compared to regular trident z rgb i hate it

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well

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not hate

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but i dont like the white

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black matches better with my setup

quaint current Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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It’s SiLvEr REEEEEEE

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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be quiet BanHammer

quaint current Jul 31, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I’ve got the trident z white and it looks pretty nice with my h500

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:42 PM

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I would recommend CL 14 ram. Its b-die

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I dont think Neo is b-die

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I got 32GB of CL14 3200mhz

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:43 PM

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how much did it cost tho

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:45 PM

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A lot of money, and i really dont care because I can push it to 4266 if i want

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Its some of the best ram for ryzen

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:46 PM

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no doubt that it is

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its just the price that gets me

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:47 PM

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But heres the kicker

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Its not a 4 stick kit

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Its 2

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:48 PM

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still

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the price

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lol

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:50 PM

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It was 270

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But considering its 32GBs its only a little overpriced

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Gotta have good ram for a 3900X

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I can always upgrade tho

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:51 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091?Item=N82E16820232091

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theo_retarded

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Timing 16-18-18-38

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What a joke

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That high of a latency and still only 3200

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Its recommended by AMD to buy CL16 3600

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:53 PM

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16-18-18-38 is like standard

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:53 PM

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And also lets not forget to mention thats the first CAS timing, the others are all extremely high. Im willing to pay the price premium for Samsung memory.

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No?!?

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:54 PM

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hm most of the ram i find thats 3200mhz is usually 16-18-18-36 or 16-18-18-38

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:55 PM

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I see a lot of 16-16-16-36 thats quite nice and fast

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High end 3200mhz 16-16-16-36

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:56 PM

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are 36 and 38 all that different

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o wait

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i read ur message wrong

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my bad

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Just use AMDs recommended standard for Ryzen 2

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Matisse benefits from fast ram but also from low cas ram

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https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/16-16-16-36-vs-16-18-18-38.3044358/

Tom's Hardware Forum

16-16-16-36 vs 16-18-18-38

Hi
I found some G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 with the timings of 16-18-18-38 at 130 euro.
The same online shops sells G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 with timings of 16-16-16-36 at 140 euro.
I know the first number is the Latency, but not sure about the others. Is it worth spending more?
t...

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For anyone wondering

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:58 PM

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idk 16-18-18-38 is fine for me

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mostly because i could get a 3200mhz 64gb (4x16) 16-18-18-38 for free

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Yea well coming from DDR3, im not going to overlook it

urban ferry Jul 31, 2019, 11:59 PM

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i have ddr4 2400 rn

naive pendant Jul 31, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Hah

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:00 AM

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😐

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:00 AM

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I still have some of the best DDR3 G.Skill ever made and my friends all have faster RAM than me because they have DDR4.

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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ok

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Your new to this

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But RAM is always something to invest a little more in

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It can make the difference between 59 and 60 frames or the difference between 143 and 144

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I suggest CL16 3600 for the money and speed

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Ryzen doesnt get much gain outside of 3733 and higher

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Otherwise keep between 3200-3600. Lower CAS timings are recommended but if you cannot afford CAS 14 3200 get CAS 16 3600. Size is based on workload too. Dont get too much RAM if your only gonna play games

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:04 AM

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ehhh imma get a 2070 and my monitors only 75hz so i dont see the value in going crazy

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Spend the extra 20$ on the CL16 3600 is all im saying

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:05 AM

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see the thing is im getting free ram so im not gonna be picky lol

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Good luck

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https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

B-Die Finder

Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.

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Helpful tool

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:07 AM

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heres the ram im getting for free

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232747?Item=N82E16820232747

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Ok

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What CPU are you gonna get

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:08 AM

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im hoping the 3700x

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 AM

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You dont need that much ram for a 3700X 😂😂 just make another computer with the 32gb and make profit

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Youll never even get past 32 ever

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Unless you are gonna have a 1000 chrome tabs open

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:09 AM

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its

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free

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ram

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Make

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Profit

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2

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Computers

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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no

shy wyvern Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Is 64 gb 4200mhz ram over kill for a Intel Celeron G4900?

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Pretty much

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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not at all

shy wyvern Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Good. I need to update my part build

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Ok man

shy wyvern Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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With the latest technology

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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wait youre joking right

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dont pair that with a celeron lmao

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Of course he is

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Im gonna upgrade to 64gb later in the future and make a workstation but until then its 32gb for the 3900X

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Nice, what ram/board? Seems like people are having good results with both the usual b-die and now micron rev E.

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I haven't seen too many 4x16 builds though, I think MSI and Asrock both have T topology boards. Asus/GB are all daisy chain on x570 afaik.

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 3:13 PM

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@naive pendant im sure asrock is daisy

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because on my asrock board the ram qvl shows 2 sticks mostly at the top

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On x570? I think most are T topology

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z390

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z390 is so i assume their x570 series would be daisy

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Don't assume

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Asrock has both types on x570, I think MSI is either mostly or all daisy chain.

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 3:42 PM

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oh

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interesting, so i have a gpu that works but sometimes not all the times i get graphics bugs in game, since i thought it was the gpu and it being used on ebay i wanted to return it for a refund, i disputed with paypal and got my money back but apparently they dont want the gpu back

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interesting

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there was me waiting to send it back

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@naive pendant

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Did you buy it as working on ebay?

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If it didn't cost that much, it could've just been not worth the effort to dispute on their end.

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 4:07 PM

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@naive pendant the seller said he is getting rid due to upgrade nothing about it being broken at all

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didnt cost much??

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yeah

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err

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lol

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Hard to say without testing the GPU more on another system or something.

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 6:34 PM

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@naive pendant

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should i trade my gpu in and get an rtx 2070 super, rtx 2080 or keep my 1080, it will be watercooled in a loop

urban ferry Aug 1, 2019, 6:37 PM

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1080 is still a fantastic card mouth

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 6:37 PM

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What games do you play? From all of your posts it seems like you're most interested in overclocking and benchmarking. Nothing wrong with that, I basically do the same along with folding @home / some tensorflow.

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flight simulators (very gpu heavy), skyrim modded, mc etc, plan to go maybe 1440p 144hz/120

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Given that you seem to value both CPU and memory OC, I'd keep the GPU on its own loop or ad at least another 360 rad, honestly maybe more.

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Ah, I forgot about the flight sim stuff.

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my cpu can be cool on the slim rad as it is

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i can do all cores 4.8ghz and 4.5 cache at around 1.23v and my idle temps like 34c

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Your 1080 ti can put out 250+ watts, I just meant don't put it in the same loop you have now without adding more rad and expect the same CPU/memory OC (IMC doesn't like hot).

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what 1080ti?

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1080?

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yes

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i feel like i wanna go to 1440p 120/144hz

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maybe

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not sure

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That'd be my recommendation for your use case. $300 to $500 can get you a nice range of monitors there.

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im on a 1080p 144hz now and i hate the quality

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is 1440p way much noticeably better?

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over 1080p

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What monitor model?

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aoc g2460pf

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Glancing at reviews, ya I bet you could see a noticeable improvement

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i just want a gpu more than capable of 1440p 144hz

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What if you got the monitor, then decided on a GPU upgrade

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idk much about monitors besides res and refresh rates, i want a good price one with decent image quality

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i hate my current 1080p i can see the pixels looking a bit meh more noticable on darker colours and my desktop background for example

quaint current Aug 1, 2019, 6:49 PM

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IPS or TN?

naive pendant Aug 1, 2019, 10:29 PM

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not sure, tn i think

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@quaint current

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If your budget is $300, TN, $500+, IPS is a good starting point for reading reviews. For 1440p 27" 144Hz VRR

quaint current Aug 1, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Doesn’t pixio make a ips 27” ips 1440p 95hz for like 260

jovial iris Aug 2, 2019, 3:15 AM

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what

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95hz?

sudden coral Aug 2, 2019, 3:52 AM

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I have a 16gb 2133mhz xD

vital edge Aug 2, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Is the X570-E a good board? My micro center ran out of Taichis so I'd like to have a backup plan if they don't come back in stock.

quaint current Aug 2, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Pretty expensive boards tho

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Hey how is it that I see all of the really nice setups with RGB and the LED's are synced up, but when I research it for my MOBO, an ASUS Prime B450-Plus, which has an RGB header, it only says that the header is for RGB strips and nothing else? Also, the header is a 4 pin connector and the connector cable I have to connect my TT cooler to my RGB header is only a 3 pin. I still get the RGB because the AIO has a controller, but I cannot sync up the LED's. I have looked at higher end boards as well and the problem that I am having is the same. Am I missing something here, or does TT just happen to be the only AIO on the planet that only connects to a MOBO with a 3 pin connector cable?

weak hamlet Aug 2, 2019, 1:49 PM

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well there are two types of rgb headers.

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rgb (4 pin 12v) / ARGB (3pin 5v)

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:03 PM

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@weak hamlet really............ -_-

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@weak hamlet If you can show me an AMD AM4 motherboard that has an RGB header that is 3 pin or will work with my sync-able hardware that I already have, I will buy the damn thing today have it shipped overnight and put it in my build stream tomorrow in your honor

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:15 PM

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monkaS

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Or anyone else for that matter

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:16 PM

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im pretty sure the motherboard i was looking at had 2

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:16 PM

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is it an AM4 socket?

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:17 PM

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yeah

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x570

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:17 PM

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can you dm me the link?

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:17 PM

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idk if it will work with what you have but i'll link it

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I will look

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:18 PM

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MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Socket AM4 AMD X570 USB3.2 Gen2 ATX Motherboard https://m.newegg.com/product/9SIAH369P39949?m_ver=1

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im gonna wait till newegg has it in stock themselves

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:26 PM

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doesnt work for me, thanks though

urban ferry Aug 2, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

o

weak hamlet Aug 2, 2019, 4:32 PM

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gigabyte x570 gaming

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has both 3 pin and 4 pin rgb headers.

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Ok

naive pendant Aug 2, 2019, 4:49 PM

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They still say only for LED strips

tiny stone Aug 3, 2019, 3:21 PM

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what cooler am I looking at for a 9700k?

sand agate Aug 3, 2019, 8:50 PM

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hey is the ryzen 7 2700x worth the higher price than the 7 2700

copper solar Aug 3, 2019, 8:52 PM

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if you don't overclock, no @sand agate

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@tiny stone most quality coolers will cool the 9700K just fine, just dont' cheap out and get one with bad heatsink and one fan.

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unless you plan to overclock, might want to invest in a 240mm aio set up

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if thats the case

sand agate Aug 3, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Ok thank you

naive pendant Aug 3, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Large air cooler > most AIO for performance/dollar at the same noise level. If you want aesthetics like a cleaner look and RGB, go AIO.

urban ferry Aug 3, 2019, 9:48 PM

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dont forget

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with air coolers you have to worry about ram clearance

naive pendant Aug 3, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Almost always a non-issue with the D15/D15s, Dark Rock 4 Pro is usually fine.

urban ferry Aug 3, 2019, 9:50 PM

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yeah, just saying its something to look out for

limber warren Aug 3, 2019, 11:29 PM

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what exactly is the performance gain from trident z neo to other modules?

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is it worth the extra money?

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 2:07 AM

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There are a few neo SKU's. Do you mean the 3600 c14 or something?

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:11 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232858?Description=g.skill trident z neo&cm_re=g.skill_trident_z_neo-_-20-232-858-_-Product

or

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232863?Description=g.skill trident z neo&cm_re=g.skill_trident_z_neo-_-20-232-863-_-Product

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hmm

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 2:16 AM

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both

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lirikGREAT

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:17 AM

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oh

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or just this

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232860?Description=g.skill trident z neo&cm_re=g.skill_trident_z_neo-_-20-232-860-_-Product

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i'll probably pick this

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when it's back in stock

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 2:17 AM

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tighter timings too, better for ryzen

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:18 AM

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2x16GB, 16-16-16-36, $290

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and most importantly

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...

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RGB

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 2:18 AM

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kappapride

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 2:19 AM

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What mobo for the 2x16?

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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X570 Master

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 2:21 AM

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If it's any x570 asus or GB that's (the 2x16 3600c16) a very good pick for a no hassle option.
If you want more flexibility for tweaking/OC you can spend more for nicer/faster stuff, but that's not everyone's priority given the diminishing returns and higher price.

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 2:24 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232803

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AiGasm

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:25 AM

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ooo pretty

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 2:25 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232806

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GudaNomsBarbatos

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Do you like the royal or the Neo look better?

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 2:28 AM

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neo

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i don't think royal would match very well

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 2:32 AM

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I like the neo look tbh. The best deal rn is this ugly duckling haha I guess I could glue some other heat spreaders to it.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820232217

limber warren Aug 4, 2019, 3:30 AM

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agreed, royal is too gaudy

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Got my new motherboard and processor

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Ryzen 3600X

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Though it’s motherboard has an 8 pin and a 4 pin CPU power port

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My PSU only has two four pins

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Should get a 4 to 8 pin converter tomorrow

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📎 image0.jpg

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Motherboard is an MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I'm surprised that kind of converter exists, also you don't need it

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I’ve heard just using the two fours does work in some instances, but in others the pins melt

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 4:01 AM

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What psu model?

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:02 AM

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EVGA Supernova NEX750B

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Semi Modular

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Model number 120-PB-0750-KR? Looks like it has 4 separate +12V rails

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Might have to be careful spreading out load

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:26 AM

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The converter works on 12V and is general purpose

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Link me. What GPU? Have you powered that GPU with that PSU before?

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Yes I have

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Vega 56

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Should be fine as long as you balance load over each rail.

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:37 AM

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The CPU power cables currently with it are not modular

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Still, thank you for the warning

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I still need to educate myself on PSUs a bit more

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The most I have done that’s power related so far was get an 800W amazon basics UPS

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Brown outs in the area were making the computer freeze in sleep mode

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OOMIAK 2 Pack 4-Pin Female to 8-Pin Male ATX EPS 12V Motherboard CPU Power Supply P4 Converter Cable - 8inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R132S5K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6hMrDb7CEAG8F

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I was trying to find these cables locally but of the 6 computer repair shops I called that sell parts and cables too, none of them had it

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None had even heard of it

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Looking at your mb manual, I don't think it specifically says you can use only the 8 pin, but I'm 99% sure it's fine.
Also, that adapter is fine too, not expensive anyway.

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But ya, seems like that PSU, although old, is a decent unit. Just have to make sure load on each +12V <= 20A

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Yeah it’s never given me any grief

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I plan on upgrading to a 850W when I get a second Vega 56

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Actually the manual does say both 8 and 4 pin CPU 12V are needed, weird.

#

Crossfire? Or for compute

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Crossfire gaming

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And eventually compute

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Would of gone for raytracing but the bad reviews on the RTX card majority made me nervous

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Also having all of the RAM that I do helps with virtualization and adding extra VRAM

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I am upgrading from a Core i5 7600K and a STRIX z270E Gaming mobo

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 5:46 AM

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i just upgraded from a i7-7700k an z270e also

#

squirtle

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Yes

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Can't wait for Intel i11-11111kk CPUs

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Icy Lake details have come out

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Not that it matters

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Wdym

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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but you're AMD @oblique steeple

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Unless you plan on buying a laptop

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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your skin will burn if you touch intel

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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@copper solar am AMD

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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HikariEvil

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/5d0feed08a76b3e069bf143963032e53/tenor.gif

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Team Red

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:52 AM

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I wonder when NVIDIA will go further beyond

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The only processors they make are cell phone processors

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I predict either PCI-e 5 or 6

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They will come out with their own version of hybrid crossfire

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 5:55 AM

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But PCIe 4 just came out

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Read it on maximum pc

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I get the digital subscription

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Hold on, will post the info here

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📎 image0.jpg

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 6:05 AM

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I'd recommend not going dual GPU for SLI/crossfire gaming. Dual GPU can be fine for computer if you know your use case's requirements well.

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Slow down dudes

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If you can make PCIe 6.0 so quickly why not put a little more time into making 5.0 better?

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If it's not even released yet

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 6:14 AM

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PCIe 5.0 (2019): 32.0 GT/s transfer rate, ~128GB/s x16 bandwidth
PCIe 6.0 (2021): 64.0 GT/s transfer rate, ~256GB/s x16 bandwidth

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PCIe 4.0 (2017): 16.0 GT/s transfer rate, ~64GB/s x16 bandwidth

#

Should mention the dates are the years of each standard’s finalized ratification

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Ah

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So basically a 2 year delay

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Yep

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"Continuing the trend we set with the PCIe 5.0 specification, the PCIe 6.0 specification is on a fast timeline," said Al Yanes, PCI-SIG chairman and president. "Due to the continued commitment of our member companies, we are on pace to double the bandwidth yet again in a time frame that will meet industry demand for throughput."

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Few devices benefit from >PCIe 3.0 speeds right now, for use cases needing >16 lanes we have x299/x399 or equivalent platforms.

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Yeah the only thing that really benefits from 4.0 is gen4 M.2 SSDs

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Maybe future PCIe 4.0/5.0 cards designed with that spec from the ground up could utilize ti more.

oblique steeple Aug 4, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Barely anything uses it to its full potential

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Kinda ya, but those PCIe 4.0 drives really only shine (for their price/perfromance) in instances like when you have two drives sharing 4 PCIe lanes or something.

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I think there's a ton to be gained in the ssd market from improving single thread, low queue depth random read performance

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Are the new Navi GPUs compatible?

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I missed that part of the keynote speech

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Yes, they are native PCIe 4.0

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Alright

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Instead of crossfire I will go for that

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Unless Intels new gous come first

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Though given their estimated 2020 release that is unlikely

#

ThinkingEgg

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Welp, here’s hoping my cable gets delivered tomorrow

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Time for bed

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Goodnight everyone

quaint current Aug 4, 2019, 12:04 PM

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@verbal mural intel said they would have the same architecture for all their first gpus, so I wouldn’t buy them unless they are really good cause it would hold back the better cards

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Like what happened to amd in the early years

sterile isle Aug 4, 2019, 12:08 PM

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hello , i would like to ask if MSI PERFORMANCE GAMING B450 GAMING PLUS AM4 Motherboard + Ballistix Sport AT 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) + AMD RYZEN 5 3400G 4-Core 3.7 GHz will work together well? thanks!

quaint current Aug 4, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Yeah, but you would have to flash the bios for the cpu @sterile isle

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 1:52 PM

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The b450 gaming plus has bios flashback, so if going b450 for zen2, that feature certainly makes things easier.
https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/

sterile isle Aug 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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thank you , how is the memory for the price?

quaint current Aug 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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ballistix sport is pretty good for the price

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make sure its cl16 tho dont want b die at that price level

sterile isle Aug 4, 2019, 3:00 PM

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yea looks like its cl16

quaint current Aug 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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👍

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Get ballistix sport with "AES" somewhere towards the end of the SKU if you want something that's known to work well with zen2

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<https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cdjpnk/ryzen_3xxx_series_ram_overclocking_community_sheet/?

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 3:24 PM

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The pin adapter arrived at the post office early this morning

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And unfortunately it arrived too late to be included in today’s batch

verbal mural Aug 4, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Well the changed their mind

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It’s coming today

vagrant mason Aug 4, 2019, 6:46 PM

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What is the best mobo I can get for an i7 8700k for under or 100?

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 7:50 PM

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there are no Z370 motherboards for under 100, @vagrant mason

naive pendant Aug 4, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@vagrant mason You can get something used off ebay, do you already have the 8700k ?

copper solar Aug 4, 2019, 8:28 PM

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b-but the warranty @naive pendant !!

orchid lark Aug 4, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Really wish I lived near Duluth GA the MC there had 10+ 3900x's this morning and now they are down to 4 😦

#

So, if anyone is trying to get a 3900x near Duluth they have a few

brittle surge Aug 5, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Need a bit of assistance, looking to get a new cpu. Currently have this mobo and I was wondering if I could get some suggestions on what would be the best cpu I could get with this board, I've got a budget of 450 bucks, would appreciate the help! https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157746?Item=N82E16813157746

oblique steeple Aug 5, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@brittle surge i7-7700k?

copper solar Aug 5, 2019, 3:02 AM

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i7-7700K would be it

brittle surge Aug 5, 2019, 3:04 AM

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any links?

naive pendant Aug 5, 2019, 3:05 AM

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What do you currently have in that board?

brittle surge Aug 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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15-6400

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shes a little dated.

#

i5*

copper solar Aug 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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all the 7700K are overpriced af because its 2 generations ago

#

😓

brittle surge Aug 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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ikr

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thats why i have a 450 budget lol

copper solar Aug 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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i have one on sale

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lulWut

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but not allowed to sell here

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gudaLurk

naive pendant Aug 5, 2019, 3:09 AM

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@brittle surge I'd sell the z270 board and look into a ryzen 3600 build. 7700k isn't a bad chip, but unless you get a great deal, it's hard to recommend in July 2019.

#

You'd likely be able to keep your gpu/ram/everything else

brittle surge Aug 5, 2019, 3:11 AM

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currently have a GTX 1070ti and DDR4 so hopeefully lol

#

that was a hefty chunk o change

naive pendant Aug 5, 2019, 3:11 AM

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We can give a better recommendation if you have a link to a full parts list

#

To clarify, people were having some issues pasting the complete like e.g. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/7FBx6h

sand agate Aug 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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i have a link that has two motherboards on it, can iput that here to get an opinion on which one is better?

naive pendant Aug 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Yep!

sand agate Aug 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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ok

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/ASUS_Prime_X470-Pro_AM4_ATX_Motherboard_vs_MSI_B450M_Tomahawk_AM4_ATX_Motherboard/BHitems/1403986-REG_1422989-REG

Compare ASUS Prime X470-Pro AM4 ATX Motherboard vs MSI B450 Tomaha...

Compare ASUS Prime X470-Pro AM4 ATX Motherboard vs MSI B450 Tomahawk AM4 ATX Motherboard

naive pendant Aug 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Probably the tomahawk

#

One of the most convenient features that it has while the tomahawk does not is bios flashback.

#

And it's got a more rebust VRM power delivery package so you have a bit more headroom if airflow and thermal conduction to the VRM heatsinks aren't what they used to he 5 years ago.

sand agate Aug 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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ok, thank you

pulsar bramble Aug 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Hey all quick question, does new egg provide a bios update service for Zen 2-compatible motherboards? Or will I need to use AMD's boot kit?

glad socket Aug 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Hi @pulsar bramble , we do not offer that service currently. We suggest contacting AMD directly.

pulsar bramble Aug 5, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Ah, thanks for the info!

weak hamlet Aug 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Newegg Services lurking again.

#

😐

glad socket Aug 5, 2019, 10:58 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-hide-gif-4983317

Tenor

weak hamlet Aug 5, 2019, 11:29 PM

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lol

copper solar Aug 5, 2019, 11:49 PM

#

IntelRounded

oblique steeple Aug 5, 2019, 11:52 PM

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AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD

#

🗡 🗡 🗡 🗡 🗡

#

https://media.tenor.com/images/0174008652040dce6d49d119afabbc96/tenor.gif

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Ok I have a question

#

I'm going to upgrade to either a 9700k or a 3700x

#

I mostly play games, but I'm I huge heavy user

#

And run a lot of stuff in the background

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 12:05 AM

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3700x

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 12:05 AM

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That's what I thought

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 12:06 AM

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double the threads

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 12:06 AM

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My friend said that I still should still get the Intel

#

I will probably get the 3700x anyways

#

Thanks

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 12:07 AM

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yeah

quaint current Aug 6, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Also those tests were run so the cpu was the bottleneck, with a rtx 2080ti at 1080p

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Can you overclock on a Ryzen 5 3600?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:01 AM

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i think you can

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Do you know what to?

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@naive pendant told me the 3600X isn't worth it

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Unless you have some 40$ discount on it

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He said I should either get the 3600 or 3700X

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No middle (3600X)

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:03 AM

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id go for the 3700x if it fits your budget and you dont have to sacrifice other components

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:03 AM

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1100~ is my budget

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(if you can't really see, the line next to 1100 is a squiggly line)

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:04 AM

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just gaming?

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I am trying to put together a pcpartpicker list for gaming and streaming on 1 PC for 1K to 1100$

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No

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:04 AM

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oh streaming

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yeah youre gonna want a 3700x

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:04 AM

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and recording and editing

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Is it okay if you put a list together for me?

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under 1100

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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yeah i can try

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do you have ethernet?

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Thanks!

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no

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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ok

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so you need wireless

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I'm gonna get like a 100 feet cable soon

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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oh ok

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I have a USB wireless adapter

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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alright

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perfect

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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My internet is 5GHz

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So internet is fine I believe

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:06 AM

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5ghz doesnt necessarily mean its good

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:06 AM

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oh

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it's fiber optics

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is that good?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:07 AM

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yes

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how much storage do you need?

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Right now I'd go with the 660p 1TB

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for 95$

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:08 AM

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would you rather go like a 512gb ssd + a 2tb hard drive

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or even a 256gb ssd

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:08 AM

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What SSD is it?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:08 AM

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660p for the 512gb

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:08 AM

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oh okay

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fine with me

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:09 AM

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ok

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R2tBsZ

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1660ti is best for that range

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also i have the case i put in that list and i love it so far

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havent built in it het

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yet*

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but it looks fantastic

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Oh thanks!

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:20 AM

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yeah np

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just a note the side panel on the case is acrylic but it looks like tempered glass cool_and_good

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oh wait @grizzled holly youre also gonna have to put some fans in it

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https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Intelligent-Addressable-Motherboard-Adjustable/dp/B07HKB1NT3/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=uphere+pwm&qid=1565065256&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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i recommend these

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or if you want cheaper you could get non-pwm fans but like ehhh

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Oh okay!

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And what is the difference betweeen acrylic and tempered glass?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HK7YRCD/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07HK7YRCD&pd_rd_w=jIYre&pf_rd_p=8a8f3917-7900-4ce8-ad90-adf0d53c0985&pd_rd_wg=ho5BN&pf_rd_r=V8PREY9B1KE81DP31H2J&pd_rd_r=fd68e62c-b7c9-43c6-a7c8-531059752f3e&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExS1FMVDdRR0taMzI2JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDQzOTUxNlpJR1pWQlRLVklZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxMzMyOTZQOEs4QjlHNjgyNEUmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

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how about those?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:28 AM

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for the extra $6 i would get the pwm ones i linked

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theyre exactly the same but the other ones are pwm

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:29 AM

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what is pwm?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:29 AM

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so when you system isnt working hard they spin slower to make less noise

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and when it works harder they spin faster

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:40 AM

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I read a review saying the pwm mode has a little bit of noise

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:40 AM

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mmm well

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the non pwm you linked is set at 1200rpm

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the ones i linked can go anywhere from 600 to 1700

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:41 AM

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oh

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so if there is a range

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that means it is better?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:41 AM

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well if youre doing things like web browsing or word processing the fans will spin slower because youre components wont be as hot

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aka less noise

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:41 AM

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ohhh

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:42 AM

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but when youre gaming the fans will ramp up

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or anything that makes your components hot

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:42 AM

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you learn something new everyday!

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thanks!

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and oh

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oh

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idk if this is better

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but I made some changes

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ctXGsZ

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:44 AM

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mmmm

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id go with mine

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the link you just put has slower ram and less ssd storage

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:44 AM

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yeah but look at the gpu

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:44 AM

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also its probably just me but i dont like asrock ;p

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:44 AM

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and I can OC the RAM

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oh but people say that bios software has an easy intercae

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interfacew

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interace*

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fudge

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and since it'll be my first time building

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:46 AM

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📎 maxresdefault.png

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this is the gigabyte bios

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you can use your mouse

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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but isn't that not the x570 one?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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bios is the least of your worries trust me

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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can you use your mouse on asrock?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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the one in my part list was x570

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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no the picture you sent me

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:47 AM

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oh that was just a picture of a bios for a gigabyte board

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:48 AM

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oh

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:48 AM

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seriously all modern motherboards have easy bios

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:48 AM

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isn't the x570 mobo from gigabyte on your list have a different bios?

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oh

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:49 AM

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like

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seriously dont worry about the bios lo

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lol*

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:49 AM

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ok

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but the asrock mobo i listed is cheaper

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:49 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i wouldnt even be intimidated if the bios looked like this lmao

📎 phoenix-bios-setup-utility-5a0b5e1cda271500370cf924.png

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:50 AM

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lmao

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LMAO

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that is how my bios looks like 😦

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and in your opinion

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would this be a huge step up

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since I run 2x4GB 8GB 1333MHz RAm

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RAM*

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RX 560 2GB

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and FX 6300

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:50 AM

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yes

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large upgrade

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:50 AM

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yay

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:51 AM

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i have a laptop so my bios looks like that too theo_adhd

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:51 AM

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lmao

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is your discord photo you irl?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 4:52 AM

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no thats someone random i found on google images theo_sips2

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yes its me

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 4:52 AM

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lmao

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 5:17 AM

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but yeah

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ctXGsZ are the changes good?

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ik the ram and ssd storage are smaller and ram is slower

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but I can always upgrade in the future

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and upgrading the ram and ssd space is cheaper than the GPU

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:19 AM

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yeah i guess thats fine then

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 8:08 AM

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@urban ferry https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-RF120M-Compatible-Controlled-Motherboard/dp/B07HN199YJ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=PWM+FANS&qid=1565078888&s=electronics&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQzRPN1VCSU9TRlBUJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDE2OTE2MVRSRUJDSDc0TDZPWSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTE0Nzc0MUpPQU0yTElTVTRUQyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= how about those?

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are those PWM?

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 8:39 AM

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@urban ferry https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKgxD2 how about that? I know it's over 1100$, 20-50$ over is okay

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 9:01 AM

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zack?

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 9:19 AM

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and

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk does that have a 5v 3 pin connector?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190806-083815.png

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I find this funny for some reason

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For the value & statement is an identity sign

grizzled holly Aug 6, 2019, 5:24 PM

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@urban ferry you there?

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:29 PM

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no im not

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https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-hide-gif-4983317

Tenor

naive pendant Aug 6, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I said the 3600x isn't worth it over the 3600.

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No x

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The 3700x, and 3900x, however are solid picks if a user values the extra multi-threaded performance.

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 9:13 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144260 vs https://pcpartpicker.com/product/svdxFT/msi-x470-gaming-pro-carbon-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-pro-carbon

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Was told not to get x570. But the price difference between the boards would be even after I would have to update the bios to support my 3900x

quaint current Aug 6, 2019, 9:49 PM

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If ur gonna go 3900x go for x570

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 9:54 PM

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puts 3950x in b450 board

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Found a really good b450 board under $200, with flash bios lol

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I'm going 3700x on x470

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Are you updating it yourself?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Yes

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What board should I get

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Find something with Flash BIOS if you're updating yourself. Eliminates have to buy another AMD CPU to upgrade it or to send it into a computer shop to update

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Adamus, what specs were on the laptop?

naive pendant Aug 6, 2019, 9:59 PM

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No I’m saying is it possible to find a 7i- and 16g ram on a laptop

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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For $800?

cinder sierra Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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if not, you can usually find an 8gb one then add another stick

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i7 isnt too hard to find

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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It's that extra 8gb stick for under 800$

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Any recommendations under $200

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:01 PM

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For the Mobo?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Mobo?

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Motherboard

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Yes

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Would you go up a tiny bit from $200?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Maybe

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:08 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144261

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Perfect
Except it has a bit of red

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But I can work with that

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:11 PM

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What GPU are you running?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:12 PM

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1070 8G

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Have a link?

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If I can see the size, I can tell you if it'll hide the red from view

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I already have it

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Ah, okay

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Y'know the model?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Oh

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The only Evga blower 1070

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yeah, you won't really be able to notice it

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:19 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-gaming-08g-p4-5170-kr/p/N82E16814487277

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It just the back plate

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That bothers me

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:20 PM

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So you see how it'll take up two slots on the case?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:20 PM

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But its a io plate

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I rarely see it anyways

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And it has flash bios

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:21 PM

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The little red lettering on the mobo would be blocked by the second pin on the card

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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That link will bring everyone to their current build on pcpartpicker

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QBJvn

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Wrong link

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

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📎 unknown.png

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I already have a case storage and gpu

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And it needs to be under $1000

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Got the actual link?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:32 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QBJvn

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Mind if I edit it a little bit?

ivory sun Aug 6, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Sure

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:36 PM

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You wouldn't be worth having 3600mhz. 3rd gen works best with 3200.

urban ferry Aug 6, 2019, 10:39 PM

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some people swear my 3600

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3200 is plenty

topaz perch Aug 6, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Even saved you $100

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XjPW29

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I've watched Gamer Nexcus and listened to a lot of people

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Nexus*