#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 75

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I tried to play with bios settings, and if I disable one thing, it drops to 1.003 volts

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I can't get it to do custom voltage to save my life.

upbeat creek Jul 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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@naive pendant thanks for the help. The other thing was the Z370 Boards were meant for only 6 core but the 9700k has 8 cores. Do you think i'd be okay or will it run to hot/crash?!

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

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if I can get it to 1.30 I'd be happy.

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:42 PM

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@upbeat creek Gigabyte right? It shows up on the cpu support list on their site, I'd think it should run just fine. I would just make sure to have the latest BIOS.

upbeat creek Jul 14, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Ya, your right, it probably can I just wanted to make sure. I was just nervous since the heat sinks on the MD are so small lol. I really appreciate the help, thanks!!!

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:54 PM

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@upbeat creek No problem. 🙂

vague bolt Jul 15, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Should I pair 3200 mhz CL16 RAM with a 3700X or 3600 mhz with a CL of 19

naive pendant Jul 15, 2019, 1:05 AM

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3600mhz @vague bolt

vague bolt Jul 15, 2019, 1:06 AM

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k tu

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ty**

upbeat creek Jul 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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look at how cheap this TR is...

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floral wagon Jul 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e9609f24120b11cc852c42384ad344da/tenor.gif

naive pendant Jul 15, 2019, 2:30 AM

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lol how old is that? AMD hasn't had a green logo in a long time.

south wind Jul 15, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Mother board is asrock

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Kinda wanna upgrade

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Man I wish I built my own pc

idle jasper Jul 15, 2019, 4:50 AM

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same PepeLaugh

south wind Jul 15, 2019, 6:11 AM

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wuuut

boreal wedge Jul 15, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Question : putting together my PC and my liquid cooler a NZXT kraken M22. the pump power cable fan is supposed to a plug in (3pin) to a Cpu_opt, PUMP, or aio_pump connector (4 pin) on the motherboard. My mobo doesn’t have this connector. Would I have to get a different mobo in order to use my liquid cooler ?

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Here’s the manual describing what I’m supposed to do * First sentence

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weak hamlet Jul 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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which mobo @boreal wedge

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also, 3pin is ok .. that just mean pump will be 100% power all time

boreal wedge Jul 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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MSI b-450m bazooka v2

weak hamlet Jul 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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4pin means you will be able to adjust the power.

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just like you would a fan.

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just plug it into the CPU_FAN

boreal wedge Jul 15, 2019, 1:44 PM

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It’ll run properly plugged into that spot ?

thorny gate Jul 15, 2019, 3:53 PM

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is there any difference between the 3700x and 3800x besides base clock speeds? do they overclock the same? ill be overclocking it btw.

gentle lintel Jul 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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from some reviewers, 3800x oc is a bit better.

hoary ingot Jul 15, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Gskill trident z rgb or gskill trident z royal

urban ferry Jul 15, 2019, 5:28 PM

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trident z rgb

hoary ingot Jul 15, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I feel like the normal ones look more clean than the royal

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I'm deciding between either the trident z rgb 3600 OR trident z royal 3200

naive pendant Jul 15, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I'd go 3600.

hoary ingot Jul 15, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Ok!

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They're both the same price right now so gotta decide

naive pendant Jul 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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@hoary ingot The 3600 is faster, so for more performance and future-proofing purposes, you should go with that one.

glacial cliff Jul 15, 2019, 7:31 PM

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What are the case latency on those?

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*latencies

naive pendant Jul 15, 2019, 7:39 PM

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What's your budget? There are multiple tridentz rgb kits at 3200, 3600, etc. List the speed, latency , and config e.g. "Trident Z RGB 3200c14 2x8GB"

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Correct me if wrong, but I think a benefit to running 3600 regardless of timing, say c16, is that you can keep IF at 1:1 (both at 1800 MHz) and not have to use an asynchronous fclk/dram config which causes some additional latency.

pseudo pivot Jul 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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if i get the msi b450 tomahawk and use the bios flashback to update the bios to the latest available, will it be compatible with the Ryzen 5 3600?

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or should i upgrade to x470 chipset?

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

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@sharp blaze I am thinking on buying a core i5 9400 with a b360 board, should they be a good match?

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@naive pendant ^

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sorry for the pings.

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:14 AM

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It would probably require a bios update before you can run the 9th gen cpu in the board.

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unless you can confirm from the retailer that it has the supported bios on the board already

naive pendant Jul 16, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@humble heath ^

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thanks, Intender

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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I think the b365 boards might support 9th gen out of the box, but I would have to look that up first

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and of course z390 supports them

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you might run into an issue with an RO stepping cpu, but I really dont think those have entered the marketplace outside of K sku cpu's

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So for a budget option that is guaranteed to work out of the box, b365 board with the 9400.

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I'm buying it from amazon, if it sells it. @sharp blaze will it have the bios update in it already? Also, bios updates aren't difficult, right?

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Thing is I have a pentium gold in my pc right now.

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don't feel like buying a new board AND a new chip

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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if the board does not support the cpu, you would have to have an older 8th generation cpu to flash the bios

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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how would I knwo if it doesn't support it?

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know.*

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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which pentium do you have

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and which motherboard

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if you already have the b360 board, you can update the bios before you get the cpu

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and if you already have a gpu you could get the 9400F and save some money

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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I have the pentium g5400

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and

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the

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b360 ds3h

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:30 AM

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gigabyte board

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:30 AM

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yessir

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And what are you talking ab gpu?

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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You would have to update the bios to at least F14, But F15 is the newest

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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sorry, little lost

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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do you have a graphics card or do you use the one built into the cpu

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bios download page is here https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B360M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

GIGABYTE

B360M DS3H (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

Intel B360 Ultra Durable motherboard with GIGABYTE 8118 Gaming LAN, PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2, 7 colors RGB LED strips support, Anti-Sulfur Resistor, Smart Fan 5, Du...

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:33 AM

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I do have a graphics card in

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:35 AM

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If you get the 9400F it doesnt have the graphics built into the cpu and I think its about $150 right now

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We are not supposed to post amazon links on here, but on newegg, the 9400 is about $30 more expensive than the 9400F

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=i5+9400

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other than the built in graphics they are the same cpu

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:38 AM

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wtf

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did intel drop its cpu prices

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Wym

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Alright @sharp blaze so the pentium gold g5400 is the same as the 9400f?

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:39 AM

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it runs on the same motherboard

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but you would need to update your bios before your motherboard will boot with the new cpu

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:43 AM

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alright, thanks.

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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do you know how to update the bios

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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@sharp blaze wAIT, final question. So if I update all the bios updates and buy the 9400f will it run faster then my pentium?

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yea, isn’t it just going on the giga website then

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looking up my board

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Then updating and downloading

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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i used a flash drive for mine makes it easy using the flash

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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the safest way is to use a flash drive formatted as fat32, download the bios and unzip it to the flash drive

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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i did mine yesterday

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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can anyone suggest any ram for Ryzen?

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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will take me 2 months to get money for my 3700x

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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when the computer is booting, for gigabyte boards you need to press the end key to load the bios flash utility

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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i use trident z rgb 16gb 2x8 3200 mhz

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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how much was it

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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its on sale atm give me 1 sec

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232498?Item=N82E16820232498

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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once it loads you pick the file you want to flash from the drive and follow the prompts

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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this one good too https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232787?Item=N82E16820232787

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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its it for ryzen Otroud

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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the royal costs 20 more

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Oh I have to do it AFTER I insert the 9400f?

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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idk havent looked 1 sec

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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gotcha.

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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if you have any trouble with the bios flash or after, let me know. I moderate for Aorus and can help you out in more detail there or in a PM

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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mine is but looks to be sold out 1 min

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Do you do video calls?

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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No update before the cpu. The computer will not boot with the new cpu

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Oh, I understand now.

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Gotcha.

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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this one for ryzen but its 94 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232751?Item=N82E16820232751

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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what you use talking about?

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Me?

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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ye

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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About upgrading my cpu

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Like, will it be compatible

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with my motherboard

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Thanks Otroud

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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bruh I’m still confused it’ll run faster?

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Sjjerjfjensjdj

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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its 6 cores at 4.1ghz, it should run better unless you have a horrible graphics card

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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no problem

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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I have the 1030 😎

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don’t judge

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LOL

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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yikes

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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I’m upgrading to a 590

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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you wont see much improvement

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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want me to give you my old 1050ti?

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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eh, we will see

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uh

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you’ll do that?

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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with the 590 you will

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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im getting rtx 2060 super

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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gotcha, thanks bud

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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2060 s =1080

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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I run a pentium 4560 with a 1050ti in my kids computer its good enough for basic stuff

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simple games like minecraft run great

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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like roblox?

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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yep

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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the 2060 super can do 1440p

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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but my monitor cant 😦

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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ah

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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I mean, will the 9400f boot up my apps faster?

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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then ull get better frames at 1080p lol

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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i over payed for it 😦

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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perhaps slightly, but that is more about the speed of your hdd or ssd

humble heath Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Gotcha.

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thanks

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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i need to move my files and os to my ssd but don;t know how to

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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macrium reflex works, but most people dont suggest cloning an OS

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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i have

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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are open boxes any good to buy?

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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i dont get macrium

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its confusing

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I have used macrium and own acronis, but acronis is expensive unless you use it a lot

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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like say open box motherboards

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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isnt that like buys refurbished items?

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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I have always been pretty lucky with open box stuff from newegg. Only ever got one bad graphics card and that was probably 10 years ago

thorny gate Jul 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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this isnt a bad deal for 167 https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x470-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119099R?Description=asus x470 strix&cm_re=asus_x470_strix-_-13-119-099R-_-Product

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dont think ill need x570 for the 3700x

sharp blaze Jul 16, 2019, 5:04 AM

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If you accept that its probably going to be a little scratched up or missing cables and stuff it can be a good way to get a deal

south wind Jul 16, 2019, 5:09 AM

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nah thats my worst fear

split heart Jul 16, 2019, 8:04 AM

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The latest mobos actually have issues with the new Ryzen processors, you need an older one to flash the bios.

tulip flint Jul 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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I think you got that backwards. It's the older mobos that have issues with new ryzen, and neew and older cpu to flash bios

winter relic Jul 16, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Can I use my RX 590 with am intel Z370 Chipset motherboard?? Intel 8th Generation Core i7 (i7-8700), 3.2GHz Clock Speed (4.6GHz Max Turbo Boost) 750W PSU

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Should be enough right? I wouldn't wanna burn anything

floral jetty Jul 16, 2019, 8:48 PM

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you can use any graphics card with any motherboard for the most part

shy wyvern Jul 16, 2019, 8:49 PM

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More than enough on your psu.

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All mother boards support all pcie graphics cards.

winter relic Jul 16, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Awesome thanks!

light bane Jul 16, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Would anyone happen to know what length of an SLI bridge when using 2x 1080 TIs on a Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula mobo? 1slot? or higher?

naive pendant Jul 16, 2019, 11:43 PM

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@light bane This is straight out of a forum with someone who had the same question: "The Maximus X Formula includes an HB SLI bridge in the box, in the same compartment as the CPU installation bracket clip thing and the wifi/bt antenna. It is very short so I'm guessing it is 2 slot "

vale adder Jul 16, 2019, 11:59 PM

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So I have a asrock b450 pro4 with a 1600 ryzen ,I am upgrading to eaither 2700x or 3600 ,I heard the 3600 might not run the best on the b450 the 3600 amd 2700x cost the same

floral wagon Jul 17, 2019, 12:02 AM

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It would cost more to get a motherboard + the 3600 so just stick with 2700x @vale adder

naive pendant Jul 17, 2019, 12:04 AM

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@vale adder I also suggest the 2700x. The new Ryzen's 3000's have been having issues with older mobo's.

vale adder Jul 17, 2019, 12:04 AM

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The main reason I'm upgrading before ppl say it's stupid is I have a 2080ti and I'm getting a bottleneck

timber jungle Jul 17, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Can bottleneck depends on the CPU..

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Are you really is the next thing

vale adder Jul 17, 2019, 12:10 AM

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well like i said before i have a ryzen r5 1600

solar cliff Jul 17, 2019, 12:10 AM

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I don't belong here

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With my sorry excuse of a computer

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Being a laptop that is ancient

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Windows 7

cursive galleon Jul 17, 2019, 12:12 AM

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oof

vale adder Jul 17, 2019, 12:24 AM

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omg i uupgraded my ram to 3000mhz and i run i ryzen 1600 and apparently the pressossor can only support 2666

timber jungle Jul 17, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Then you do need a new processor... lol

turbid sluice Jul 17, 2019, 2:06 AM

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I think it’s limited by the motherboard, not the CPU

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But I’m not sure

naive pendant Jul 17, 2019, 2:35 AM

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@vale adder You still get the benefit of faster RAM though. I have a 1500x and run 3,000mhz RAM and still get better performance than I would with 2,800mhz for instance. If you upgraded the RAM and mean that your PC won't work then maybe you got a bad stick or need a BIOS update.

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:40 AM

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i have a i5 4570 which is a 4th gen cpu and i bought a 8th gen motherboard is it time to upgrade the cpu?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:42 AM

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so you bought a more expensive LGA 1150 board?

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:43 AM

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1151 and no my old one had something wrong it was going into a boot loop

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and i have no idea why

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so i decided ill try a new motherboard cause its about time anyway

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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but

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the 4570 is an 1150 CPU

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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no?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75043/intel-core-i5-4570-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html

Intel® Core™ i5-4570 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) Produ...

Intel® Core™ i5-4570 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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ill go double check i could be wrong

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:44 AM

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yes

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:45 AM

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yes i am wrong it is a 1150 thats my mistake

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so if i had gotten a 1150 motherboard that is a 8th gen would my cpu have fitted it?

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cpu is a 4th gen?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:46 AM

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if you had gotten an 1151 board, the CPU would not fit

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:46 AM

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thats what happened but if the generations are different does that matter?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:47 AM

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it's about what socket supports it

nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 4:48 AM

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can u explain?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 4:48 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rShVLBIR2VA

YouTube

Techquickie

CPU Sockets as Fast As Possible

LGA 1151, AM3+, LGA 2011-3, FM2...it can be difficult to keep track of all the different modern CPU sockets! Here's what you need to know about them. Massdro...

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nimble vine Jul 17, 2019, 8:59 AM

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so theres a cpu been sold with a motherboard its the i7 5820k and hes selling them both together, he goes on to say that it wont post and that its a "error 53" does anyone know if its the motherboard or the cpu thats doing this?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 3:16 PM

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that's likely a memory error

modest grove Jul 17, 2019, 7:25 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821170 is this good ram?

austere tree Jul 17, 2019, 8:08 PM

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never heard of the brand tbh

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and the timing is kinda poop

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let me see if i can find you something better

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236497?Item=N82E16820236497&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2F7Y3H99%2Fcorsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmt16gx4m2c3600c18&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-mg9s2EyPLHJ.5G0CdWCeNw

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236485?Item=N82E16820236485&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FVG97YJ%2Fcorsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw16gx4m2k3600c16&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-C9.6ysDvSMsf6MOTTRWcJw

graceful ocean Jul 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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@modest grove yea

modest grove Jul 17, 2019, 8:59 PM

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aight thanks

fierce nimbus Jul 18, 2019, 1:49 AM

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which channel would be best place to ask about thermal pads, here or cooling?

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tryingto figure out if price difference between 11.0w/mk pads versus 17.0w/mk pads would be enough to justifying the difference in cost

fair iron Jul 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Has anyone done any testing with ram and new x570 boards? I'm pretty split on what I should get speed / brand wise but I am definitely set on 32gb

Building two rigs one for me and one for my buddy with diff boards
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145155
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145159

tulip flint Jul 18, 2019, 3:27 PM

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over $200 for a mini-itx board?

fair iron Jul 18, 2019, 3:27 PM

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lol

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Yeah well

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New comes with a price

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And I really want a small Desktop

naive pendant Jul 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Depends on your budget, but Micron E-die is currently the fan favorite for best value e.g. those Crucial 3000c15 kits. Nothing wrong with going 2x16GB, it's the same load on the IMC as 4x8 single rank anyway.

fair iron Jul 18, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah I was thinking 3200mhz. I dont mind spending 150ish on 2x16gb

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The whole Die thing is new to me idk why I never researched it in my years of building

naive pendant Jul 18, 2019, 3:33 PM

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It was more of an issue with 1st/2nd gen ryzen having a tough time getting ram to run at rated speeds/timings.

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B-die was $200+ for 2x8 back then too. 3rd gen's improved IMC, better bios optimization, and more matured memory trace designs on the boards all contribute to better compatibility now... I think.

fair iron Jul 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Hopefully

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Im doing 2x x570 builds with 2 3900x's

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and two 5700xt

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lol

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SO I was like well might as well not skimp on the Ram and get 32gb of 3200Mhz

quaint current Jul 18, 2019, 3:48 PM

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don’t buy the blower models please

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wait for custom cards

tulip flint Jul 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I heard the 5700xt responds to water cooling very well

fair iron Jul 18, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Yeah but

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I want the 50th Anniversary edition :c

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The other issue here in lies we are doing the builds together at this new house on the 9th of Aug which requires travel so kinda pressed for time.

upbeat creek Jul 18, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I have a dell computer which looks like trash, Would it be stupid to buy a new 6th motherboard for my 6700 and the h500 case and just move all my parts in there?

naive pendant Jul 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

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@upbeat creek That idea sounds fine if you plan on keeping the 6700 for a couple more years.

fierce nimbus Jul 19, 2019, 12:42 AM

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erp

blissful harness Jul 19, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Hey everyone, question: what's the likelihood of actually needing to use BIOS flashback in a realistic scenario?

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I think someone in general-chat could use some Bios flashback rn

blissful harness Jul 19, 2019, 12:55 AM

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RIP. Thats what im worried about.. like how likely am I to brick my pc with a bad bios update that ill need flashback?

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 1:38 AM

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@blissful harness Sometimes mobo's need a BIOS update. If you read the directions word for word and do exactly as they say, you should be fine.

blissful harness Jul 19, 2019, 1:44 AM

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thanks for your input!

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was debating between 2 x570 Mobos, one with and one without flashback with a $70 price hike for the one with

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 1:46 AM

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If you're in the US, I'd give these a look through https://www.newegg.com/d/Special/Combo?Subcategory=0&Brand=0&SaveCompare=0&SaveAmount=&kwd=x570&ListType=Combo&action=search&item=

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A lot of the popular boards are sold out, but $50 would be a nice discount if you're getting that board anyway

blissful harness Jul 19, 2019, 1:49 AM

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thanks, will definitely look through it!

shy wyvern Jul 19, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Is 4.9 GHz at 74° max load bad?

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For an 8600k

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I was seeing if pushing it to 5 would be a bad idea

floral jetty Jul 19, 2019, 8:20 AM

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long as it doesn't go over 90 so far as I know

pseudo pivot Jul 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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With an updated bios, will an MSI b450 tomahawk work with a ryzen 5 3600?

austere tree Jul 19, 2019, 12:40 PM

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supposed to

craggy wyvern Jul 19, 2019, 2:43 PM

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They are coming out with a MAX version of their b450 and x470 motherboards that will come with the new gen ryzen support out of the box

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Heard mixed release dates of end of july - mid august

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Should be around the same price as well

vale adder Jul 19, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I've always been told motherboards dont rlly matter, I have a asrock b450 pro4 would I notice anything if I went to a x570

weak hamlet Jul 19, 2019, 3:07 PM

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motherboards do in fact matter.

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lol

timber jungle Jul 19, 2019, 3:22 PM

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They are the backbone of the system... with a bad MOBO you can’t upgrade later, or they won’t last long.. CPU, MOBO, in my opinion are the 2 items not to skimp on.. Most Ram is to par with each other, GPUS are pretty even when it comes to brand vs price.. power supplies from 1-2 companies suck... most are decent.

vale adder Jul 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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So I would benefit from getting a better board? I k ow some have wifi and bluetooth which would be nice

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 3:26 PM

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You should not skimp on anything but power supplies are most important. A bad PSU for instance from a bad brand, could die and fry your whole system.

vale adder Jul 19, 2019, 3:27 PM

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@naive pendant I have a cx 750 cosair I think I'm ok in that area

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@vale adder you would benefit from that board upgrade with better overclocking, SLI support and has better VRM's on the mobo.

vale adder Jul 19, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I dont need to worry about sli I have a rtx 2080ti and a ryzen 1600 so ,I need a processor upgrade before I buy another 1k$ graphics card

naive pendant Jul 19, 2019, 3:48 PM

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@vale adder This will give you some good info and keep in mind that B450 is a lesser chipset than even x470: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3482-amd-x570-vs-x470-x370-chipset-comparison.

south wind Jul 19, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i cant make up my mine on ram :((

timber jungle Jul 19, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Get a goat.... rams are mean

true yarrow Jul 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

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All 4 sticks of my RAM are lighting up but according to bios it only detects one

empty oracle Jul 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

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try plugging them in one by one

true yarrow Jul 19, 2019, 10:48 PM

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@empty oracle thanks, I realized that it wasn’t completed seated

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I had to push really hard to hear two clicks

empty oracle Jul 19, 2019, 10:48 PM

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aight

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i haven't built or anything, it's just advice you should always follow

true yarrow Jul 19, 2019, 10:54 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821162?item=N82E16820821162 anyone know if this RAM can sync it’s RGB?

blissful dragon Jul 19, 2019, 10:55 PM

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idk but it would look pretty nice in a whiteout build

neat crest Jul 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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I am doing a build for someone and I was wondering if there are any "Compatibility" issues with these items? according to Gigabytes website, the B450M DS3H will support the Ryzen 5 3400G, and also supports Corsair Vengence LPX 16gb (2x 8gb) sticks. The ram is listed under Pinnacle though, and the 3400G is a Picasso. Does this matter at all? Links below :

Ram : https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233970
Mobo : https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145083?Item=N82E16813145083
CPU : https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3400g/p/N82E16819113570?reviews=all&Item=N82E16819113570

Supported CPU List : https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-cpu

Supported RAM list : http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450m-ds3h_pinnacle.pdf [ Ram # CMK16GX4M2A2400C16 ]

I just wanted to make sure before submitting my order for them.

GIGABYTE

B450M DS3H (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

AMD B450 Ultra Durable Motherboard with Realtek® GbE LAN with cFosSpeed, PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2, 7-colors RGB LED Strips Support, Anti-Sulfur Resistor, CEC 2019 r...

thorny gate Jul 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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they will need a bios update to use the 3000 series since its a 2000 series board

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unless it come from factory with the new bios

neat crest Jul 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Gotcha. If I set it up would it even post to where I could flash the bios right away? I have a USB for just flashing the bios available.

coral bear Jul 20, 2019, 1:01 AM

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3600 seems more future proof with 6cores

hasty marsh Jul 20, 2019, 2:36 AM

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most decent cpus have 6 cores or more

shy wyvern Jul 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Do not worry if you need a bios update, amd is super helpful and if you show them proof of purchase they'll lend you a 2200G to update your bios, then you send it back to them.

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It's a very clever solution to backwards compatibility

timber jungle Jul 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Such a pain in the end.... lets send chips out that can’t work in MOBOs....

gentle lintel Jul 20, 2019, 7:52 PM

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I'm curious if all those prebuilt PC's using x470s with 3000's which prebuilder is going to screw up first and forget to bios upgrade before sending.

tulip flint Jul 20, 2019, 9:20 PM

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well in their defense, I'm pretty sure all the x570 will natively support the 3k series ryzen

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it's only the older generation motherboards that need the bios updates, which is still way better than what intel does with requiring a new motherboard with each generation

austere tree Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 PM

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AM4 has been fantastic for compatibility

tulip flint Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 PM

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also I'm pretty sure all prebuilt PC's are supposed to be tested before sending to customer, if a company doesn't do the tests, then they don't really deserve your money

shy wyvern Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Even if they don't and refuse to fix it, AMD will help you. I may not like the ryzen chips themselves very much but I'm absolutely all for amds customer service.

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They have gone out of their way to make their consumers happy, while Intel honestly is the opposite. I've found me having to make myself happy with some of their ideals.

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Like locking so many chips so they can't overclock when they're perfectly capable

split heart Jul 21, 2019, 12:29 AM

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AMD actually sent dummy CPUs in the past to help flash people's bios, relying on people to send the board back so that they could send it to more people.

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A really kind gesture.

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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What're everyone's thoughts on the longevity of 12-thread CPUs for gaming? How long until games start requiring more than 6c/12t and said CPUs begin to show their limitations? Doing my first build and debating whether i should get one of the Zen2 R5s or the 3700X and would like input from people more knowledgeable than me. Thanks in advance!

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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My ram got delivered today StarEgg

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📎 20190720_210421.jpg

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Celebration

shy wyvern Jul 21, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Fancy ram!

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I can start building soon !!! The last piece is the graphics card :)

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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nice! im still picking parts, hopefully ill decide everything before sept.

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Good luck! I kept changing mine up for like 2 months

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I was never set on what to buy ROFLEgg ROFLEgg

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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thank you, just curious... whatre your specs? maybe itll help me on my build lol

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:11 AM

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For sure, I'll send the build I'm doing now

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JuciaPucia/saved/#view=33bykL

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The case is actually different. I bought a thermaltake h200 rgb snow

shy wyvern Jul 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Rich affff

naive pendant Jul 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@blissful harness I would guess that it would be another 6-10 years before games start requiring more than a 6core CPU and the same time frame before 6 cores start showing their limitations. For better future proofing purposes though it would be a good idea to buy an 8 core or even higher if you can afford it.

shy wyvern Jul 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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I see that 2080

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Lol

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Still haven't bought it DizzyEgg

shy wyvern Jul 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I'm just jelly, I have a 1060 in mine because I broke

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I have a really poopy pc for gaming right now so I just wanna get some good stuff

naive pendant Jul 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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@hoary ingot Nice ram Nice

hoary ingot Jul 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Nice

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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ooh nice! GL building it! and thanks for your input @naive pendant

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@naive pendant so you don't expect next-gen games to start optimizing for 8-cores? I believe the next iteration of consoles are expected to have 8c/16t.

naive pendant Jul 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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@blissful harness 🤔 If you plan on upgrading again in a few years though you might as well only go with an 8 core.

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@blissful harness Well they can utilize 8 cores sure but NEEDING 8 or more cores is a different story.

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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gotcha. so ideally get an 8c cpu now and not have to worry about upgrading for good long while

naive pendant Jul 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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yup

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More specifically a newer 8 core. I would stay away from something like the old AMD FX 8xxx series, they were pretty slow in comparison to the newest line. @blissful harness

blissful harness Jul 21, 2019, 3:27 AM

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👍

dapper flax Jul 21, 2019, 10:22 AM

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cant wait to get that bundle with the ryzen 7 3700x and aorus x570-i aorus pro mobo

neat kiln Jul 21, 2019, 1:37 PM

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I hope Ryzen 5 3600X is worth it

fair iron Jul 21, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@dapper flax Thats the ITX one right? I am doing the same with the 3900x in a NZXT i200 (i210 I hope actually) in like 3 weeks.

thorny gate Jul 21, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@blissful harness you do realize ps4 pro has a 8 core right?

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https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/explore/ps4/tech-specs/

Playstation

Tech specs

See what's under the hood of PS4 and PS4 Pro.

thorny gate Jul 21, 2019, 3:16 PM

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also the ps5 will have the ryzen 3000 series so it will have 8 core 16 thread, ssd's, ray tracing, 8k graphics, custom navi gpu its gonna be great.

gentle lintel Jul 21, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Yeah ps5 is looking decent on the amd front. Wonder what 3000 though.

quaint current Jul 21, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@thorny gate if can be able to run 8k, but probably super low settings 30fps, and it’s probably gonna be $500+

dapper flax Jul 21, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@fair iron yea it’s the only itx one that’s for sale rn

fair iron Jul 21, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@dapper flax Let me know how you like it. What case and card are you using?

dapper flax Jul 21, 2019, 6:00 PM

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@fair iron I have a phanteks evolv shift and a gtx 1080 right now. I still have to buy the cpu and mobo

fair iron Jul 21, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Nice

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Cool man, good luck with it

dapper flax Jul 21, 2019, 6:01 PM

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u2 bro

fair iron Jul 21, 2019, 6:05 PM

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That Evolv Shift is AMAZING

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Has me rethinking my H200/210

naive pendant Jul 22, 2019, 3:16 AM

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📎 357vfn.jpg

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:04 AM

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I'm building a PC for the first time does anyone know the fundamental difference between :
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard &
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS XTREME LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI THUNDERBOLT 3 USB 3.1 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard what accounts for the big price difference ?

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145103?item=N82E16813145103&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+intel-_-N82E16813145103&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvdXpBRCoARIsAMJSKqKeTxOHAve3uSL8cmUAD0yE_Lr6kK6UnGQH7Y_DimcRBHgJyUS5kn8aAkxFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145091?Description=Z390 AORUS LGA1151&cm_re=Z390_AORUS_LGA1151-_-13-145-091-_-Product

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:17 AM

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The z390 elite, pro, ultra and master are all about the same performance wise, pick among them based on features, price, looks, whatever you value. What CPU?

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:24 AM

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intel core i9 unlocked

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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So, 9900k(f)?

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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yes

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3.6 ghz 16mb cache

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I see that one has thunderbolt and the other does not but they are $300 different

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the extreme is sold out so i settled for the cheaper one ... but I hope i didn't make a mistake

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I wouldn't recommend you get the extreme unless you're interested in serious overclocking. What's your total budget?

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:30 AM

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i need to make Caches for Houidini simulations and playback for simulations .. my other needs are Rendering in Octane which is GPU ... but I use Arnold which is CPU so ... its nice to have both working well

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for the entire build 3,000

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thanks for your help @naive pendant

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Have you considered an AMD x570 build with something like a 3900X? I think both options have their pros/cons. If you know you won't use the integrated graphics on the 9900k (including the hardware acceleration features like quicksync for things like Premier) then you can get a 9900KF for $420 on amazon rn.

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I have not - thank you for the heads up.. I will look into those ... I have all the parts to build but b/c they were out of the mobo I wanted i purchased the cheaper one ... buyers remorse

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Do you think an Aorus X570 Master would be good for overclocking?

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Not gonna spend $700 on a mobo...

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Plus it has 3x m.2 slots

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:41 AM

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but rgb

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thats the best thing to get in a mobo

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:41 AM

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RGB is the best

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:41 AM

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id spend $1600 on a mobo if it had rgb

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:41 AM

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What is the advantage of overclocking - I'm not informed on overclocking ?

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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overclocking essentially allows you to take your cpu and make it a better cpu

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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better for big calculations ....? speed?

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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faster

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Pretty much increases performance

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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do you want a detailed explanation?

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:42 AM

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At higher power cost

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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i can go into more depth

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I'm unsure which mobo to get

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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but if thats satisfactory, i can leave it at that

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I mean im rendering 3D and doing simulations in Houdini - so speed would help with those

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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so

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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But I do like aorus logo and RGB :l

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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eh

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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but it depends on the type of speed

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:43 AM

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i personally prefer asus rgb

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anyway, @gleaming pendant

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cpu companies sell you a cpu with an advertised base and boost clock speed

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this cpu, however, is not being maximized, and driven to maximum performance

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Any idea which one does overclock better though? CPU, RAM. I can't really find much on it.

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:44 AM

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ahhhh okay good to know

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:44 AM

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instead, it is designed to take into effect thermal output, power draw, stability, and control

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but

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lets say you need a little bit more performance, or just want it

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cpu companies let people like us experiment with the cpu a little bit.

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:45 AM

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okay that makes sense

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:45 AM

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yeah

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:45 AM

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thanks thats way clearer now

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:45 AM

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it just speeds up cpu performance

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:46 AM

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when overclocking do you have to use more power for cooling

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:46 AM

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well

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cooling doesn't really use up that much power

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but the cpu begins to suck up more power

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:48 AM

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hmmm thats interesting ill have to look into overclocking

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whats RGB

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:48 AM

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red green blue lighting

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it's controllable leds

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:48 AM

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ohhhhhh

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:48 AM

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that allow you to make things look nicer

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30000% performance boost when a part has rgb

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its just an asthetic thing

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:49 AM

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^^^

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:49 AM

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i didn't even want to say Red Green Blue

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Remember

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Red RGB and case make your PC faster

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But blue RGB and white case make it cool better

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:49 AM

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yeah

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and then green rgb reduces power consumption

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we're just kidding, please don't take us seriously

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yeah please don't

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:50 AM

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yes I know LOL

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:50 AM

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i know

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but there are kids i know

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btw

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ima pull a sneaky

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im gonna go on craigslist

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and sell the build im currently doing

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its my first one,btw

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:51 AM

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@empty oracle @oblique steeple Ya'll are awesome ! Thanks for the update

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:51 AM

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BUT

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ima put Ninja, fortnite, and framerate, + RGB in the section

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sell it for $1000

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it costed me

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by the way

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i have an rgb psu

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low key brag

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Yah so... Tie breaker between Aorus X570 Master and Asus X570 Crosshair VIII?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:52 AM

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@oblique steeple The x570 boards at $300-$350 ish are pretty even spec/feature wise. I went with the x570 master myself as did @JWM1611#0474

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:52 AM

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id go with the asus

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simply because of that rgb

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:53 AM

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But Aorus has a swol Eagle logo

gleaming pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:53 AM

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lol

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:53 AM

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aight

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heres the thing

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Ya, I was split between the master and the C8H myself, but I only went with GB just to give GB a try.

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:53 AM

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im personally biased towards asus, simply because they know what they are doing, and have one of the best reputations in the gaming industry

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but gigabyte has a strong showing

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Ya, I love my M9A asus boards, fantastic for OC. And the Crosshair 6 and 7 are popular for Ryzen 3000 for a reason.

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I mean the waterblock on the ASUS $700 X570 is worthless tho

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:54 AM

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but

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rgb

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and the vrm coolingf

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aight

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Hmm

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:55 AM

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asus has a slightly better IO

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if im not mistaken

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I need to figure this out

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:55 AM

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id just go with the asus

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i mean

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the crosshair lineup is their flagship boards

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outside of like, the wild wild realm of waterblocked mobos

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but honestly, you can't go wrong with either

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 1:57 AM

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What CPU/budget btw?

empty oracle Jul 23, 2019, 1:58 AM

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both boards are identical in price

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do you want to hear my cynical side?

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both boards are great

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but no matter which one you choose

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 1:59 AM

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I don't really have a budget

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3900x or 3950x when it comes out

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:03 AM

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My asrock b450 pro4 is rating my 3000mhz ddr4 ballistix ram down to 1400mhz I did a memory test and both sticks passed could it be the motherboard or bios update needed ? I have a ryzen 1600 if that matters

copper solar Jul 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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IntelRounded

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Reading the "C8H owners thread" on overclock.net might give helpful insight. Same goes for pretty much everything.

hasty marsh Jul 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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theo over here just sayin INT3L

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Mad lad

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Any ideas?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:09 AM

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1400 is weird, are you looking at that in task manager/cpu-z?

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Cpuz

dry coral Jul 23, 2019, 2:09 AM

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what would be the best cpu to pair with a gtx 1660 ti?

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I kinda wish I'd gotten C8H now since only Asus boards have full sensor support in Linux, with the rest having no ETA at all

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I was just too unfamiliar with the AMD side after all this time

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:12 AM

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So, when we say 3000MHz c15 etc, we actually mean 1500MHz , 3000MT/s since DDR4 transfers data on the rise and fall of the clock signal.

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:12 AM

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but apart from Linux support, so far X570 Aorus Master is doing fine for me

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:12 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190722_201245.jpg

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:13 AM

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right, that throws off newer folks, what @naive pendant said, multiply that number by two to get the effective clock rate

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Looks like you're running at the advertised XMP speed. It shows single channel though, do you have two sticks, or one?

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Two

weak hamlet Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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need to change the dimm slots

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do you have them side by side

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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yeah sounds like they are side by side right now

weak hamlet Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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A1 B1

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Farthest and 3rd farthest from the CPU are usually the best for 2 sticks, 4 slots.

weak hamlet Jul 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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or A2 or B2

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:17 AM

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A2 B2 is convention, but honestly, most of the time it doesn't matter as long as slots alternate.

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:17 AM

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I think on my board the first two slots occupied need to be A2 and B2

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:17 AM

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So u think that would help my speed a bit?

weak hamlet Jul 23, 2019, 2:17 AM

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uh yeah

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:18 AM

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double

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Seems to lag on ram intensive games and I have 16 gb so that's why I was comfused

weak hamlet Jul 23, 2019, 2:18 AM

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ya just shutdown and change slots. should be good to go then

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:19 AM

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@vale adder Your current memory clock is correct. Re-configuring the sticks for dual channel might show a noticeable improvement, hard to say.

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No reason not to though.

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Regardless, task manager will read 3000MHz and CPU-z (the best way to check this) should show close to 1500MHz for your memory. e.g. 1494 or something is close enough, don't worry about it.

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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is there any quick solutions you can tell me to bring down my cpu usage while i play games?

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190722_202305.jpg

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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i have a ryzen 5 2600 overclocked to 4.0 and a evga gtx 1070

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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That better?

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I didn't realize that the infinity fabric is truly decoupled on Ryzen 3k, kinda strange TBH. I thought it was just adding a 1:2 strap is all. But you can run them out of sync if you want, but you don't want to though because of the latency hit, except maybe for extremely bandwidth sensitive stuff at very high memory speeds? I wonder.

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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They were side by side

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:25 AM

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It looks like you have the RAM in the wrong 2 slots, but honestly, it probably won't matter. Especially if your board is T Topology. The main thing is to use alternating slots.

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Run a https://www.userbenchmark.com , easiest catch-all test imo

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Any pics of the aorus master vs the Asus hero RGB? :s

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Because I'm all about that RGB

hasty marsh Jul 23, 2019, 2:42 AM

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google

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I did

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Nothing except those stock photos

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I mean of anyone who owns one

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Go on pcpartpicker and search completed builds for each. Great way to check compatibility too.

hasty marsh Jul 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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you can probably find pictures that people posted online

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Alrighty

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Either the pics on pcpartpicker are unflattering or they both have crappy RGB

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:58 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190722_205801.jpg

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After I switched the sticks

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@vale adder Yikes, how are they installed again? In the farthest, and 3rd farthest from the CPU? i.e. A2 and B2?

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Then check to see if XMP is enabled in bios

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Xmp is enabled

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📎 JPEG_20190722_205943.jpg

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📎 JPEG_20190722_210045.jpg

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:06 AM

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It shows you still have them in A1 and B1, maybe A2 B2 would give better stability.

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I did have a1 and a2 before so try a2 and b2?

upbeat kraken Jul 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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@vale adder yes use a2 and b2

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Found The issue

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📎 JPEG_20190722_211156.jpg

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Had to down clock the ram in dual channel

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:21 AM

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@naive pendant You mean farthest and 2nd farthest.

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@naive pendant Wouldn't that be B2 and B1?

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You don't put only 2 RAM sticks right next to each other when there is 4 slots.

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Yes, that's why I said A2, B2 or farthest + 3rd farthest

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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put them in the pcie slot 😌

slender fossil Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Put them in m.2 slot

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Or on the cpu

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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actually ive always been confused does it go A1 A2 B1 B2 or A1 B1 A2 B2

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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"farthest etc" is admittingly kinda confusing, A2, B2 etc is clearier imo

slender fossil Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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I just say say 1st 2nd or 3rd or 4th

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Wouldn't 4th farthest be A1? i.e. the closest?

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I'd assume the farthest would be (more) far than the 4th farthest

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Regardless, I think we agree. Alternating slots for dual channel 2 sticks in 4 slots.

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:25 AM

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I have the ram on the 1st slot and 3 rd slot and had to down clock it

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:26 AM

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@vale adder You have the sticks in A1 and B1 from what I can see. A2 and B2 should be ideal

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haha now I have to delete my messages too so i don't look like I'm talking to myself @naive pendant

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Jokes aside, the "x farthest" has tripped me up before at least once

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:30 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190722_213011.jpg

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Well farthest and 2nd farthest from CPU then.

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@vale adder Alright, let us know if it works?

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Haha what, no, farthest + 2nd farthest would be the B1+B2 right? @naive pendant

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it would be 4th slot away and 2nd slot away

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Better, put ram here https://puu.sh/DWe8U/2ff9b69bc7.jpg

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:34 AM

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I think ima just leave it and upgrade as soon. As I get my check I didnt realize I needed a upgrade to use it correctly

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:34 AM

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@vale adder Yeah your RAM needs to get moved to those slots ^

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Seems like 3000 (also with tighter timings) does indeed work on that mobo, lilturbo's BIOS is a more recent version too so I'd imagine 3000c(something) is fine https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9sv0s1/3000mhz_ram_on_asrock_b450/

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:36 AM

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As I see it 2667 is the max it supports ,correct?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Ignore that for now.

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:38 AM

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And the link u said was a 2600 which maxes at 2933 ,I have a 1600 so 2667 correct?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:39 AM

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I mean, from your screenshots, you were previously running 3000MHz single channel to begin with.

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Yes but i was getting blue screens every once in a while I'm guessing from the clock speed

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 3:42 AM

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TBH, you probably won't notice a substantial difference having it at XMP vs something <3000, but if you want to do it the "right" way, put the ram in slots A2 and B2 and try enabling XMP to run the memory at 3000MHz (1500MHz DRAM frequency as seen by cpu-z)

vale adder Jul 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I'll try that

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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does anyone have a suggestion for a ryzen cpu i should get to minimize cpu usage?

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i have a ryzen 5 2600 right now

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:18 AM

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@cursive egret CPU usage in a certain program or game or what?

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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in a game... i have a lot of cpu usage in games like fortnite, rocket league, and rainbow six siege

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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@cursive egret what other programs are you running while you're running a game?

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Does this high usage cause problems directly? Define "high"

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Well, i sometimes crash and i check task manager and my cpu usage is very high (around 80% to 100%) so i think the crashes are because of that

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my other programs are discord, i close my corsair icue software but it still runs in the backround, and evga precision x1

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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High cpu usage alone is not the cause of the crashes. By crashes, do you mean blue screens? Or the game itself crashes to desktop and windows behaves as normal.

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@cursive egret Well high usage should not crash anything, what will crash things is high temp.

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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i have an aio and my temps dont go that high...

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well i'll look into my temps, thanks!

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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@cursive egret Have you monitored both your CPU and GPU temps while gaming?

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Running hwinfo64 during a gaming session and checking max cpu, gpu etc temps is a great way to check

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:24 AM

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ok ill do that right now, thanks!

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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userbenchmark.com could show a lot of helpful info as well if you want to run one and post it

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

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i used a little software and i was playing for about 13 minutes and i got a 35c minimum and a 54c maximum

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📎 Desktop_Screenshot_2019.07.22_-_21.38.48.41.png

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you cant make the program bigger sadly so you may not be able to see it

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:43 AM

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@cursive egret Max temp of 54C for the CPU is pretty good but what about the GPU while gaming?

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

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keep it around 65-70

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with an oc

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pretty good fan curve

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

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So more than 1 game is crashing?

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

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fortnite and rocket league

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i think i'll leave it and if it happens again i'll pm u if thats fine

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

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@cursive egret I have PM's off but you can ping me here with a @naive pendant

cursive egret Jul 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

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ok thanks!

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

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good luck

shy wyvern Jul 23, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I wanna just make sure, would an i5-8600k @ 5ghz bottle neck an rtx 2060?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@shy wyvern No.

shy wyvern Jul 23, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Making sure. I don't play many games so I'm not sure if the resource usage ratios

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:37 PM

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3200 or 3600 ram for 3900x / x570 build?

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Still can't make the decision

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:40 PM

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@fair iron 3600 for sure.

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Prob gonna get the Royals than

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Oh good lordy, they released the Neos

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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I'd pick up some 3200c14 since it's available for $120 2x8 again

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Doing 32gb setup

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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What board?

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Im doing an Aorus I X570

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My buddy is doing the Master

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The Neos are 32gb at 3600 CL 16 for 210

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Nice, I kinda wanted to get that board, ended up with the master. Neos are in stock?

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That's not a bad price

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Are we allowed to link?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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It's not the fastest you can get, but 32GB 3200c16 for 210 is great

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ya

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 10:00 PM

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haha damn, that's already sold out

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Yeah I just refreshed

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And it sold out

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:c

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I dont need it for a few weeks so

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 10:04 PM

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There are two 3200c14 2x16GB kits for $238, not bad https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600561668 600546709 600327642&Order=PRICE

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Yeah not bad at all

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I'll prob wait until next week and see what the deal is and pull the trigged. im happy they released the NEOs

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Do you like the looks of the neo?

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Yeah

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Much better than Royals

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 10:07 PM

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TBH I thought it'd be far more absudly expensive

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Haha I hate the look of royals

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 10:07 PM

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They pretty tacky

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lol

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Especially when it's some 2x8 3200c16 kit or something, , if you're going to dress like that, have some b-die under the heat spreader

fair iron Jul 23, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Yeah lol

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:11 PM

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What would be some good memory (RGB!!!) to go with X570 and 3900x?

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:12 PM

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i got you

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lemme go get a link

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@oblique steeple how much ram do you want

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16 is standard for gaming

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:14 PM

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32GB

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:14 PM

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alright

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:15 PM

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But 16GB works too

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:15 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232752?Item=N82E16820232752

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that ones 32gb and will work great with x570 and a 3900x

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but if you wanna save a bit of money you could go with 16gb instead

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232751?Item=N82E16820232751

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actually wait

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:16 PM

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i think the 3900x also is supposed to go best with ddr4 3600 at CAS 16

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:16 PM

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well 3200 is fine i think

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i mean 3600 would be better but they get so expensive

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imo the g.skill ones look the best

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but

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236417?Item=N82E16820236417

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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true

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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theres this one for cheaper and is better spec wise

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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3600 C16?

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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brb

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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that performs best but it can be more expensive

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although recently its only been like $5 more expensive for 3600

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Do you have any links? 😮

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The trident z 16GB 3600 c16 is like $500

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:21 PM

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actually wait infinity fabric is at 3733 MHz so that would be beswt case scenario but thats a little rare

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woah

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really?

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Yeah

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:23 PM

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wait r u looking for 16gb or 32?

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:23 PM

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2x8 is $500

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:23 PM

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i found it for $104

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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You have to manuall clock IF to 3733

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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What the heck

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Higher is just unstable

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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oh ya theres that too

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i mean they sell 3733 but its rare and expensive

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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That being said, if you're not into overclocking for fun, just get 3600c(anything) and you probably won't notice the difference, it'll still run 1:1

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:25 PM

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ya

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:25 PM

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If you wanna tweak, get some 3200c14, 3600c14/16 or micron E die if budget and aim for 3733c14

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Of course that means OC IF to 1866? and dram to 3733 manually with something like 1.1V SOC

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:26 PM

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oh my bad the 3600 i found wasnt c16

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for that its about 150

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3200 c14 goes well with the 3700x

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:27 PM

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I wouldn't stress out about ram choice/speed unless you want to OC for the fun of it or you're confident your use case will benefit enough to justify the effort

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3200c14 goes well with anything

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Alrighty

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So 3200c14 or 3600c18 isn't much of a difference if you aren't crazy messing around?

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:28 PM

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ya true its a difference of less than 1 fps

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

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personally i recommend 3200 16-18-18-36 or 3200 16-18-18-38 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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plenty fast

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

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i mean ryzen has always been sensitive to memory in a good way but still its really not a huge difference or barely one at all

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

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It (can) definitely be more, but we've see so few instances on zen2 specifically where it's like "wow"

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

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and common and doesnt break the bank

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

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ya

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to both

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Nothing wrong with 3200c16 in builds with an appropriate budget

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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3200c16 is high end

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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But if someone with a 3900x/2080 ti asked "what ram" I'd recommend something a bit more

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3200c16 is $65 for 2x8GB

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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does he have a 2080ti?

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I'm probably gonna do 3900x and RX 5700 XT

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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hm

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Guess not

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Who

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:31 PM

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still, 3200 is plenty fast for gaming but whatever

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Alrighty

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If I wanna resell later might get 3600 to get a higher price

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XD

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Just kidding

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:32 PM

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theres this

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232856

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3600 and 14-15-15-35

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:32 PM

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wait when did they release the neo

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:32 PM

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but its very expensive

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:32 PM

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oh man i was waiting for that

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WHOOO thats expensive

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Oh lawd

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Overpriced lol. But not a bad option for someone with money who doesn't want to spend time screwing with a ram overclock

urban ferry Jul 23, 2019, 11:33 PM

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then theres this, which is even better looking

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476

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and is still extremely fast

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or even this

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236417?Item=N82E16820236417

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even faster

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and cheaper

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I recommend 3200c14 to those who are interesting in tweaking because you clock it to 3733c14 4x8 1T easily on ryzen 3rd gen

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Even moreso on intel for >4000MHz

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:34 PM

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ive always loved the trident z rgb series

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oh wow

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:34 PM

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All of those 3200c16 kids are overpriced

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:35 PM

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ya

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Either spend $130 for 3200c14 2x8, $240 for 2x16, or $65 for 3200c16 2x8 haha

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:35 PM

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So 3200c14

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I think I'll do 3200c14

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RGB!!!

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Has anyone seen a benchmark where something other than a benchmark really benefits a lot from 3733 and tight timings on zen2?

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:39 PM

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no but ill look around

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232560

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So would this be a good pick?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:46 PM

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What mobo?

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:46 PM

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X570 aorus master

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:46 PM

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ooh nice

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:46 PM

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yep. also same haha

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I would stick to only using 2 slots until you want to play around with tweaking more. 4 will probably run just fine but who knows

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3200c14 16GB dimms are dual rank

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Well, those are

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I think we're just now seeing 16GB single rank dimms

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Hey peeps can I get some help pertaining to the new aorus nvme gen4 ssd to my asus hero viii?

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:47 PM

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actually for a ~$1700 build with 3700x what mobo should i get

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sure whats up

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:48 PM

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X570 or x470?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:48 PM

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@limber warren Given we're in the newegg discord, I'd assume it's an option? I'd check out the 370x combo deals

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:48 PM

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I think you only get the best out of it with a PCIe 4.0

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:48 PM

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So I was told since this new m.2 and how quickly the read and write speeds are that I won't actually get the 5000mb/s as promised since this is such a new technology and my mobo is pretty outdated.

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:49 PM

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So i think I have my RAM pick

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Thanks

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❤

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

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oh ya i forgot about combos, thx

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I'm hoping to get better boot speeds for games and load times. I have a 950 pro currently.

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

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@oblique steeple I'll send you a pic of my 3700x/aorus master with 3200c14 2x8 running at 3733c14 when I get the CPU haha

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Ooo awesome

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:51 PM

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950 pro is a very fast drive as is. How full is it? Do you run the windows optimize utility regularly?

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:51 PM

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i liked the asrock steel legend does anybody have anything to say about it?

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actually wait

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no i think im gonna get the aorus master actually

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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@naive pendant since we'll have similar mobos and ram wanna help me get mine OCed when I order my parts?

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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wait which should i get

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Aorus master will be overkill for a 3700x unless you really like overclocking.

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Have you seen the new gen4 ssd by aorus? It has sequential write speeds of 5000mb/s and I ran my Samsung magician and I've lost a quite but of performance only around 2700mb/s

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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In which case it has some nice features, much like the corsshair 8 hero

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Gotta get that juicy 3950x

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Can anyone help me with this? I just want to make sure before I open it that I can actually get the read and write speeds promised with my current mobo.

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:53 PM

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I've seen that SSD

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:53 PM

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@maiden shell 2700MB/s is fantastic for a drive that old. While the 950 pro won't be as fast as newer drives like the 970 pro, HP ex920, or WD black, sequential read / write speed matters very little for stuff like that

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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All you guys amd fan boys?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I don't mean to discourage you from buying a nice new drive, but you'll be disappointed if you think it'll cut your boot time in half

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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not fanboy just fan

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Well it is a 1tb drive.

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Fangirl

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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This is my first AMD system ever haha

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Other than a dual opteron server

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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That's cool. I've been looking into upgrading to Intel.

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To amd sorry

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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i mean, im a fanboy but if they pull an intel ill give up on them

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I had a few AMD GPUs before but no CPU so this'll be my first full AMD rig

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I've had Intel for 10+ years but the new hardware looks amazing and at the price you can't best it.

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:55 PM

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u know?

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:55 PM

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So @naive pendant stick with the 950 pro?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:55 PM

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@maiden shell This is really unconventional, but if money isn't a concern, and you truly value fast boot and a "snappy" feel to windows, pick up an optane 905p m.2 380 GB for boot

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But that's a very niche pick

oblique steeple Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Super expensive

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Most would say it's a stupidly low performance per dollar

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Yeah the optane 905p is super expensive for me.

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Ah, ya, if cost is still in the equation, 905p is probably out

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I've started buy more aorus hardware and I like their warranty. Just picked up the new 2080ti xtreme yesterday.

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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What's your budget again?

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Me?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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yes

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Well my computer is already built and I'm doing upgrades. I've sent about 2k so far.

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Everything but the mobo and cpu currently.

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I've also had intel since 2007 haha, glad to see others making the jump as well

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Ah, nice

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Maybe you guys can sell me on amd haha

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Well, for a new system, if it's got a 2080 ti, I'd recommend something like a 970 pro or 970 evo plus for windows, 1TB

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And just install everything on that drive

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:58 PM

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So clone my previous m.2 correct?

naive pendant Jul 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I would not clone anything, just use the windows media creation tool to fresh install

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If you need a key, pm me

limber warren Jul 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

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ive been intel for a while, still am actually, but at this point amd has better performance for the same price and similar performance for ~$200 less

maiden shell Jul 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Okay im on my phone let me jump on my computer so we can discuss more @naive pendant haha

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:00 AM

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btw can i friend u guys this is a great convo lol

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Yeah sure

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Sure.

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:01 AM

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okay i am on my pc

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Start a group chat for club x570 master lol

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@upbeat kraken already has his and a 3900x

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:02 AM

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so you want me to do a fresh install of windows on my new m.2?

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@naive pendant

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:02 AM

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@maiden shell Yes. I think most people would recommend that as well.

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:02 AM

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gotcha

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I actually never had the 950, I went from an 850 for boot to a 960 evo

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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thats easy enough right? Just put the windows image on a usb and boot from it and have it install on my m.2???

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Sounds like you've done this before haha. Pretty much, just a few details

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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very nice. Have you seen the new aorus nvme gen4?

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I still have a z270 aorus k7 tho

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Yep

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I can't join the club yet

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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ive built a few pcs in my day haha

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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lol me neither i gotta get a job first

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I'm holding out until Cyber Monday

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I considered a new pcie 4.0 NVME drive but I value i/o performance over maximum sequential r/w

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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To see if there are any good sales

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Also for that much money I could just get another 905p

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-aorus-1tb/p/N82E16820009012?&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-DSA-_-CategoryPages-_-NA&gclid=CjwKCAjw4NrpBRBsEiwAUcLcDJCkU2d24GRuu1MxMmDJGJmFp0Y2AonZbUTJUBoYfhKzTxGFMGxOrRoCdC0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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thats what i gotr

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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That thing looks insane

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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haha tbh, I'm building this 3700x/x570 master system knowing it'll be slower than my current PCs for pretty much anything but highly multi-threaded apps like blender, premier renders etc

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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yeah the quickest r/w speeds currentlyt

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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actually should i even go to x570 for ryzen 3000? im not gonna be using pcie gen4

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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makes sense @naive pendant

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I'll get a decent upgrade tbh. i7-7700k to 3900x.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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SSD sequential read/write is like a car's top speed

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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ya same

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I'd rather have a car that "only" tops out at 150mpg but can pull over 1G in a corner

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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PCIe 4.0 iš only worth it for those OP M.2 SSDs

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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actually im going from i7 7700hq to 3700x

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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like the 970 pro @naive pendant

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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that metaphor was cringe, but you get the idea

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Haha ya, I have 3 of those lol

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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jesus my upgrade is gonna be so nice

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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sooo it's still an m.2 nvme but is an ssd too? I am super confused

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I just have a 860 sata SSD .-.

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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m.2 is the slot, sata/NVME are the host interfaces / protocols, SSD is the term for any solid state disk

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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i literally have a laptop with a 7700hq and a broken 1050 ti not to mention the shittiest hdd ever created to 3700x 5700xt, itel 660p and 970 evo

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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okay so what is the difference between the 970 pro and the new aorus nvme ssd??

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lol

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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My 860 evo 2.5" ssd is a SATA ssd, my 970 pro is an m.2 NVME ssd

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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so its the same thing?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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The aorus can operate at 4.0 speeds

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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nvme is an interface

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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NVME is not an interface

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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ssd is a type of drive

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no?

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oh

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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NVME is a host interface

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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ooooh

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thx

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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m.2 is the connector specification

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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ill remember that

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i thought m.2 was form factor

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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NVME is like saying sata

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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m.2 is a form factror

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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m.2 2280 is a form factor

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But ya

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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oh i get it

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thx

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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okay so to get an answer to my first question lol! Will i get the r/w speeds on this new ssd with my outdated intel asus hero viii z170

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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That's nitpicking on my part tbh. I agree m.2 colloquially means m.2 2280 99% of the time

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No

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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damn

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reason being?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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z170 hero 8?

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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m.2 is awesome, pcie x 16 is best form factor for storage

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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correct

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Oh ya that's right

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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also t-bag idk where u came from but im in a good mood so if u dont mind ill friend u too

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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asus hero viii

floral wagon Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Bruh

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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its more reliable and has a higher read write through the Bus

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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it does have an m.2 slot

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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friend me @limber warren

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Let's make an X570 Master chat

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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z170 is a solid platform

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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reach out if you ever need any help on PC. im 29 and i have been pc gaming since 1993

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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for sure i got the 6700k oc to 4.6ghz

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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what do you mean pcie is the best form factor for storag lol

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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since castle wolfenstien

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days

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i just dont know if now is the time to upgrade everything lo

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mobo and cpu

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ive never done that kind of upgrade just always built new

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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I have 3 z270 boards and one z390 haha

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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@naive pendant there is a storage that you can install in the PCIEx16 slot

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they are very expensive

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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i like the new z390 boards

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but i might go amd this go around

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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but very reliable and read and write very fast

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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@thorny hull I'm aware haha. That form factor is called half/full height AIC

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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is that another term for them?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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An example would be the 900p, 905p both AIC , and a bunch of enterprise ssds

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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is that a duplex term?

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read and write at same time?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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NVME can read and write at the same time

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As can SAS

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SATA is really the only protocol that can't

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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cool to know

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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oh, AIC just means add in card haha

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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ahhh ok

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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@naive pendant give me a amd build for around 1k for mobo and cpu if you got the time

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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But you're thinking of the optane drives which use 3d x point

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e.g. the 900p/906p

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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ill do it rn

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i assume u have peripherals?

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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i also want a gigabyte mobo

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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@maiden shell Easy, $500 3900x, but you have to find one in stock, mobo is flexible, could spend between $250 to 350

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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i just need the mobo and cpu both for around 1,000$

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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That is, aorus pro/ultra, or the master at $350

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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so the 3900x cpu???

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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oh wait just cpu and mobo?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Then I'd pick up a new 970 pro, maybe an evo plus with the remains

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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3900x is STILL out of stock

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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oh thats easy ya

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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correct i have eveyrthing else

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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But I think AMD site sells it now

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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AMD is out of stock too

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Shiiit

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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I check often, it goes back into stock occasionally

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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What the hell

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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why would some one want to get the newest cpu?

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jw

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is it because of cores threads and clock rate?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Another option, get a 3700x now, and the 3950x later

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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if u wanna wait theres always the 3950x for $750 in september

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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or just clock rate and cache?

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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ya

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Yeah ik

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I'm gonna wait

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I might go with the 3950x

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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im just curious

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because most games dont use all cores and threads

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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true

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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those are more for multi tasking and VM

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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links please lol

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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but once amd becomes the standard that'll change

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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i was born into amd

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I was born for this

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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AMD is best ure right

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thats right Z

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3920824&Description=3700x

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si

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?

timber jungle Jul 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

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INTEL!!!

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

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id give it like a year or 2 before devs start making games that really use upwards of 8 cores

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

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intel is using ddr6 and ddr6 x right now?

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Unpopular opinion, get a z390 aorus master + 9900KF for $650 on sale, fill it with 4x8GB 3200c14, clock those bois to 4000c14 and the cpu to 5.0

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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AMD!

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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AMD BB

naive pendant Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Intel is supposedly launching ddr5 and pcie 5.0 q1 2021

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD AMD

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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:amd:

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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So I'm going back to Intel @naive pendant

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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AMD

devout mothBOT Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Zovyra#6452 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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lame

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Dang it

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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it has to be caps

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 AM

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The heck will PCIe 5.0 do

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM

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:amd: =/ AMD

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM

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I said the f word and bot got angry :l

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM

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me6 bot?

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Yeep

thorny hull Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM

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ahh my admin uses that on our chat too

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bout to go hop on CSGO

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gl hf

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:19 AM

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thx u too

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also there are probably better but @maiden shell https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3920810&Description=3900x

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:19 AM

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$500 mobo

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:20 AM

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I've always wanted the godlike mobo. That's a sweet deal too.

limber warren Jul 24, 2019, 12:20 AM

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ya

maiden shell Jul 24, 2019, 12:22 AM

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I might wait a bit. I did just drop quite a bit for the new 2080ti and ram and storage. Just trying to decide if I want to keep the aorus m.2

oblique steeple Jul 24, 2019, 12:22 AM

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I have the aorus m.2 in my pcpartpicker

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Though I should probably go for something smaller for my boot drive