#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 74

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:14 PM

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me

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I've waited

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6 years

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and by waited I mean I've been broke PepeCool

gentle lintel Jul 7, 2019, 11:15 PM

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same, and I'm not broke this time around 😛

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I'm just really OCD about decisions and took way to long to pick what ram and everything else based on reviews lol

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:15 PM

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gonna be semi hard to not bankrupt myself just to flex on some people tbh

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I need help choosing a motherboard for a 3900X, my budget is around $200

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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$200?

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go by best selling

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done

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Should I get X470 or X570

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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do you need pcie 4?

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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are you going to use a hyper super omega ssd?

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if not

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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No

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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then no

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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then look for a solid x470

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I found a decent x470 for $140

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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How do I know if a motherboard will be updated for Zen 2?

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 PM

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with 30 dollar mail in rebate

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they've said it'll work on all the x470s didn't they?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:17 PM

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I would suggest checking out this chart: https://i.redd.it/jns90zhx3o731.png

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from the hardware sub reddit

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Don’t they need an update like the X370 for Zen+?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:17 PM

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get something with a decent VRM

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if going for 3900x

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:18 PM

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@tulip patio any suggestions?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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well I have both the x470 ultra gaming and the gaming 7 from gigabyte

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the ultra gaming has a weak VRM

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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I was looking at the Gaming 5

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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the gaming 7 is amazing

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Or Asus X470F

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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gaming 5 has the same VRM as the ultra gaming

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with a better VRM cooler

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Then not that one

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:20 PM

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wouldn't be my first choice

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Maybe the X470 prices will drop?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:20 PM

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maybe

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do you like MSI?

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or Asus?

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I don’t really care about brand

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But I need an ARGB header

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:21 PM

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MSI has some decent options......x470 gaming pro carbon AC

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not sure about pricing on it

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only thing it doesn't have is a negative voltage offset, I don't think

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B450 tomahawk is also pretty decent but might be borderline on the 3900x for overclocking

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it is better than the gaming 5

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VRM and Bios wise

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from Asus you can look at the ROG Strix x470-F

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Well, my Budget for the mobo is $200

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 PM

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it has a 6 phase with 60 Amp power stages

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 PM

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USD

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 PM

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let me check pricing

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:24 PM

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And which brand has better RGB control?

floral jetty Jul 7, 2019, 11:25 PM

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beggars can't be choosers

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:25 PM

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???

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:25 PM

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They are all probably pretty good

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the x470 ROG strix F is 196

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the MSI gaming pro carbon is 179

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I’ve read that the Gigabyte software doesn’t have addressable RGB support

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I am not really sure 😃

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I overclock on mine but don't really touch its RGB capabilities

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you could always get a controller if you needed too

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the headers are there........does that count?

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Between the gaming pro carbon and x470 f which is better?

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I suppose

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:27 PM

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guess that depends on your use case

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the asus probably has the better bios and software

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but is more expensive

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both have decent physical MB quality

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:28 PM

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And the hardware?

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For overclocking?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

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the MSI does have the better IO

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Overclocking probably goes to the ASUS

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

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And will there be any benefit in overclocking the new CPUs?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

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not by much though

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I you plan on PBO overclocking get the ASUS

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Sorry, what is PBO?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Precision boost overdrive

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its a feature with Ryzen processors

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Like auto clock boost?

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

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basically its set to Auto but if enabled the processor will overclock itself higher but usually runs a crazy amount of voltage thru it

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that is where the negative voltage offset comes in handy

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you can enable PBO

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then start tweaking a negative offset to run less voltage thru it

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tweaking that can take a while

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I prefer static overclocks myself so I don't bother with it

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Ryzen does a pretty good job of boosting on its own

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Thank you very much for your help

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:33 PM

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anytime sir

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just check out the chart I linked in here

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Yeah, I’ll save it to my phone

tulip patio Jul 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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there are some boards in your price range....just find the one you like

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sweet

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good luck! 😃

turbid sluice Jul 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Thanks!

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Hey so I have been looking to build a computer and I’m leaning towards going with a ryzen CPU but I’m not sure how much I should spend on a motherboard because a lot are quite expensive can anyone guide me down the right path?

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Look for the features you want

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The ones YOU want

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Then make a decision.

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Oh ok

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So it isn’t really a subjective thing?

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Completely subjective

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Objective *

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Depends on the features

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That you want

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Then go from there

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Personally I'm over gigabyte boards as of late

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Had a bad experience with their rma service.

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With my current board

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Ok I have also heard to stay away from ASRock? Are they something I should be avoiding also

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Once again depends on the features.

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Ok

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Supermicro can be good.

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:47 AM

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That just seems really weird because it seems like just about everything else in PC building is objective lol

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Same with Asus and msi

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Correct

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Mobo and psu are subjective

livid kestrel Jul 8, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Good to know

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Everything else is specs + looks

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:51 AM

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IMO motherboards and monitors are the hardest to choose

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 3:51 AM

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yes

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:52 AM

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I still haven’t found a monitor with the specs I want at a reasonable price

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And there are so many mobo choices

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Makes it hard to choose

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Yup

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Tend to have better experience with supermicro, Asus, MSI

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Latest experience with gigabyte blew...

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I hadn’t seen supermicro boards until today

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:55 AM

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;)

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 3:55 AM

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I'd have to have enough money to dabble in it

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but I would be pretty interested in making a micro-atx

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Like the concept is just really cool to me

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:56 AM

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@keen blaze The price is $199 and this would have been the correct channel to ask in

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I would like to make an HTPC in the Node 202

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I’ve always liked that case

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Should I go with i7 9700K or R7 3700X???

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Probably 3700X

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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probably

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Depends on what you do

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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All benchmarks favor i7 but 3700x has better price-to-performance

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I want to game and stream

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Even if you only play videogames the majority of the time, thinking about it, if you even dabble in anything that isn't that, a ryzen will be preferred

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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If you don't want to overclock atm the 3k is beating it atm

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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then

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DEFINITELY ryzen

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Yes

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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ok. plus the wraith prism is sick

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Yeah, it’s nice

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 4:00 AM

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There are not a lot of budget small RGB coolers

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so I was super happy when they announced that the 3rd gen ryzens are coming with the wraith

hallow canyon Jul 8, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Meh

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 4:01 AM

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If you want RGB then it’s good

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Especially since it is included

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 4:01 AM

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yeah

jovial iris Jul 8, 2019, 4:17 AM

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ADATA XPG RAMS ARE THE BEST PRICE-PERFOMANCE

open idol Jul 8, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Yo I want the 3900X

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Dying for it

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I currently use a 2400G

true yarrow Jul 8, 2019, 5:53 AM

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I just picked up a 3600 today 😄

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microcenter had a $50 off deal if paired with a mobo

final walrus Jul 8, 2019, 6:04 AM

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i have a first gen 1600, pretty happy with it. paird it with a rtx 2060

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might pick up a 2600 tomorrow though.

deft pagoda Jul 8, 2019, 8:09 AM

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hey im fairly new to building a pc and im certainly really new to the AMD CPU's and i decide i want a 3900x along with a x570 but i have no idea which x570 and what memory is good with that

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most likely going to be getting a 2080s or 2080

jovial iris Jul 8, 2019, 9:20 AM

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@deft pagoda Maybe an X570 Godlike? or an ASRock? Idk, any of them are good to run 3900X, get ADATA XPG rams they fully compatible and stable on Ryzen 3000, tested myself.

2080s

wraith plover Jul 8, 2019, 10:46 AM

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lol

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"tested them myself"...when?

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btw it's typically the motherboard that determines the RAM compatibility, not the CPU itself lol

ripe fulcrum Jul 8, 2019, 10:53 AM

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I don't think I've ever seen a case where the CPU determines the ram compatibility

wraith plover Jul 8, 2019, 10:55 AM

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that is why motherboards have a QVL

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lol

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loves bull****ers

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:14 AM

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heh

untold laurel Jul 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Anyone know what's up with the ryzen 7 3800x, no reviews yet and all the other processors seem to have already gotten some YouTube video or another.

quaint current Jul 8, 2019, 1:31 PM

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amd only sent the 3700 and 3900 to reviewers

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 1:31 PM

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lol

wraith plover Jul 8, 2019, 1:32 PM

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it's essentially the same chip as the 3700X, just slightly faster and 30W higher TDP

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everything else is the same, cache size etc

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 1:40 PM

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that tdp is like weird

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it goes from 65 to 105

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with a little bump in speed

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 1:41 PM

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yeah but you gotta look at the core/thread count

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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theyre both 8/16

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right?

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between the 3700x and 3800x

wraith plover Jul 8, 2019, 1:43 PM

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yep

untold laurel Jul 8, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@wraith plover think the single core performance is pretty much the same?

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Does the Asus X470 F support USB BIOS updates?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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it does download the update as a .cap file, so i would assume so

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I'm thinking about getting this bundle and selling the CPU

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3921037

vague bolt Jul 8, 2019, 3:07 PM

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thats not a bad idea

turbid sluice Jul 8, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Oh, it can't be updated by USB

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But I can use that CPU to update it

untold laurel Jul 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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You could just keep the cpu for a backup

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Not sure what my cpu purchase should be. I have a 2700x currently and need a cpu for my backup pc. Both have x470 motherboards. Debating either one of the new i7s to upgrade too and move over my 2700x to the backup or keeping it in my main rig and just getting a zen2 i5.

hasty marsh Jul 8, 2019, 5:33 PM

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there is no i7 to upgrade nowadays

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not with amd's third gen lol

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it's better phrased

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Sorry meant ryzen 7

hasty marsh Jul 8, 2019, 5:33 PM

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"upgrading to one of the third gens"

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Yep

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That is the internal debate

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 5:55 PM

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3700x or 3800x are pretty tempting.....need to talk to my inside self

untold laurel Jul 8, 2019, 5:59 PM

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3800x if ya have the budget

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However, no idea when they are going to be back in stock

graceful flame Jul 8, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Does the 105w TDP of the 3800x give it any more stability in over clocking than the 3700x?

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Have no idea how the 3800x performs relative to the 3700x. Any reviews of the 3800x yet?

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I would assume the higher clocks and tdp would keep the chip at higher clocks but since zen2 seems to hit a voltage wall at 4.3 ghz IDK

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Does anyone know how to update your bios without a CPU

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Only certain motherboards support that kind of feature

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ones like the b450 tomahawk and gaming pro carbon

tulip patio Jul 8, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Need a motherboard with bios flashback I think

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:34 PM

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will this motherboard be able to update the bios from a usb https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119140?Description=amd b450-f&cm_re=amd_b450-f-_-13-119-140-_-Product

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 8:44 PM

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@dusk jay Yes. There's multiple ways to update it as seen here: https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1012815

Official Support | ASUS USA

[Motherboard] ASUS EZ Flash 3 - Introduction | Official Support | ...

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That was in the FAQ section on this page: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/HelpDesk/

ASUS USA

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING FAQ | Motherboards | ASUS USA

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming Motherboard - Next-level performance: 2nd gen. AMD processors, 5-Way Optimization, Fan Xpert 4, Aura Sync. POWER.

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:46 PM

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do I need I processor to update it online

sharp blaze Jul 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I dont think you can update the bios on that board without a supported cpu

arctic dome Jul 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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if you use flashback you can.

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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do you know any mobo's that have out of the box support with 3rd gen ryzen that are under 200 and if not is it worth just getting a 2nd gen

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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gigabyte aorus elite is probs ur best option

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its $199.99 lol

sharp blaze Jul 8, 2019, 8:49 PM

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last time I checked only the crosshair boards support flashback

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:49 PM

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but it looks good, has bluetooth and wifi, and its an x570 board

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:49 PM

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fancy

arctic dome Jul 8, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I think all of the asus boards support flashback.

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:50 PM

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i have a asus m5a78l-m PLUS/USB3 so that will a big upgrade

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@dusk jay
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE AMD Ryzen 3000 PCIe 4.0 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 AMD X570 ATX Motherboard https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16813145160?m_ver=1

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never heard of that board but if youre doing ryzen 3000 then if get an x570 board but thats just me

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id*

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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my board is AM3+

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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oh

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it wont work

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it needs an AM4 socket

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that will be a huge upgrade

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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yeah i dont expect it to work

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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well maybe not huge

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but yeah

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:52 PM

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should i just get a ryzen 7 2700X or 2600?

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:52 PM

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ehhhh

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if ur gonna go 2nd gen get the 2700x

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but i strongly recommend the 3000 series

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 8:52 PM

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the 2600 is fine

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:52 PM

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lol

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:53 PM

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you dont need an x570 board for 3000 series but its the best choice in terms of functionality

hasty marsh Jul 8, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yeah

sharp blaze Jul 8, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I have both and the 2600 is a great cpu for the money

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yeah the 2600 is still good

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:53 PM

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i have a FX-8350 and I am running well but I just want to be able to play forza horizon 4 on ultra graphics

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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oh

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then a 2600 will be fine im pretty sure

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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yeah I will go for the 2700X tho if my wallet will have it

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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if thats all ur doing, (gaming) then i wouldnt get the 2700x

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not worth the cost since youre not doing streaming or video editing

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for a 2600 or 2700x get a x470 or b450 board

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:55 PM

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i actually may do such a thing

hasty marsh Jul 8, 2019, 8:56 PM

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"such a thing"

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lol

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:57 PM

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yeah I think I might video edit on my PC

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and streaming

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 8:58 PM

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2700x is the way to go

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if you plan on doing that often

ripe fulcrum Jul 8, 2019, 8:59 PM

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pick the 3600

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it outperforms

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 8:59 PM

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no the 3600 is not that noticably better @ripe fulcrum

ripe fulcrum Jul 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3958vs4040

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs 7 2700X

Based on 138,009 user benchmarks for the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and the Ryzen 7 2700X, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,162 CPUs.

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and a few videos I've seen

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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as you can see from the link you sent it is not noticeable

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 9:01 PM

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like 3% better

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it is cheaper tho

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:02 PM

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wait will that cpu stream and edit just fine because editing is an 8 core job usually

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:02 PM

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yes, it'll do that fine

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the 3000 series is the productivity king

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the 3700X and the 3950X stomp the 9900k in productivity

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:03 PM

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sry if im being a bother but do you guys have any hypothetical pc builds of a 3000 build and a 2000 build?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:04 PM

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1 sec

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:04 PM

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no prob

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:04 PM

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what's your total budget?

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:04 PM

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idk like 1300 CAD

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:04 PM

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alright

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:05 PM

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sry for the currency trouble i can convert if you give me usd if it is a problem

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:09 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sbYVJ8

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that's a R5 3600 build

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:10 PM

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oh yeah i already have a RX 570 can I just use that?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:10 PM

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for sure

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:10 PM

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im still on the fence of getting a 2700X

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or the 3600

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:11 PM

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the 3600 is $100 cheaper in Canada

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:11 PM

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you mean more expensive?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:12 PM

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nope

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:12 PM

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our money is worth less tho

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 9:12 PM

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R7 2700X is $359, the 3600 is $269

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and that's in canadian rupees

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:13 PM

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oh i get it i was miss reading it

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is the MSI X570-A PRO a good choice?

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@dusk jay Yes

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Thanks for you help @naive pendant @austere tree @urban ferry @ripe fulcrum @hasty marsh

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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sure

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ur welcome :D

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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You're welcome

hasty marsh Jul 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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no problem

arctic dome Jul 8, 2019, 9:40 PM

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YOU'RE WELCOME KRYPTIX

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 9:42 PM

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OOF

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:05 PM

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do u think i need an aftermarket cooler or is stock good for a 3600 build?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:11 PM

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stock should be fine for 3600 if you don't plan on overclocking further

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:11 PM

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oh no I never ever overclock

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:12 PM

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then yeah it's all preference

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:13 PM

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also I am looking at becoming a nitro booster if you are is it easier to receive the role of techie?

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:15 PM

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how comfortable are you with all types of computer parts?

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:15 PM

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pretty good you wanna test me lol

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:16 PM

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nah, just be a genuinely helpful, knowledgeable person around the server and you'll get there eventually

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:17 PM

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yeah i need to study up on my intel chipset names but besides that and the really nitty gritty stuff I am techie (like what circuits do what on a mobo)

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:19 PM

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you'll get there

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:25 PM

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yeah i wanna become a nitro boost to support this server because its way better then tom's Hardware where everyone tells you your pc is bad and to buy the newest best one

austere tree Jul 8, 2019, 10:26 PM

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that's completely up to you if you want to

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we'd appreciate it

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we're close to level 2

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:26 PM

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i know you need two more people

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Hi guys do you think the Intel Core i5-9400F Desktop Processor 6 Cores 4.1 GHz Turbo its good for gaming and streaming? i am thinking of paired it with a GTX 1660 Ti OC

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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gimme one sec

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yes that should do the job a i5 9400F with a 1660 TI

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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oh okay thanks, what about a 2x8GB RAM with 2666 Mhz will be good too?

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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yes

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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oh yeah thats good

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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there is a kit for 3,000mhz right now

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65 bucks

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16gb

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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ohh thats litty

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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yeah

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corsair lpx

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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No

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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can i see it?

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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sec lemme find link

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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The link is broken

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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eh?

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Ur a box u cant send links

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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You can't troll good either.

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so there is that.

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Wtf

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233852

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doesn't get any better than that.

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Listen here buddy. I have a box cutter and I'm not afraid to use it.

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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damm

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lol

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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That is solid ram.

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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do you guys think the MSI Performance GAMING Intel Coffee Lake H310 LGA 1151 DDR4 Onboard Graphics (H310M GAMING PLUS) its any good/

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I have no idea, but I don't think any onoboard graphics are ok

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unless its from ryzen vega

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Onboard graphics are always bad if you wanna play demanding games

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But then again it depends what games you plan to play

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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no i mean like will the i5 9400f and the GTX 1660 Ti will not fried it?

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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no youre fine

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when you install the graphics card, the onboard graphics shutoff.

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just remember to plug into the gpu, not the mother board

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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oh okay i see.

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is water cooling efficient? or its better to have a fan cooler

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i mean like for temperature wise

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i am just trying to build a 800 dollars PC which i know a little bit about computer but i am not trying to fry my parts 😦

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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well INTEL stock coolers are crap.

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AMD Ryzen is the best bet if you want an affordable gaming rig.

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they've got really great bundles out right now.

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Ryzen stock coolers work amazing.

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so another money saver.

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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oh i see good info

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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ryzen stock coolers also look great

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especially the wraith prisim

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3885223&Description=Ryzen bundle

naive pendant Jul 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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AMD is lame Intel 4 life

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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comes with that ram I linked

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2600 6-Core

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GIGABYTE B450M

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GREAT starter buiild.

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you can still have your 1660ti

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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now that is a deal

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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that is a solid build.

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=Ryzen+bundle

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shop around.

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3846354&Description=Ryzen bundle

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amazing.

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I use that mobo.

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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i was literally gonna build that second link

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but the ryzen 3000 came around

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then*

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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it's still viable.

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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but

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ryzen 3000

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:D

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lol

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:13 PM

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-_-

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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itd a good build

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i just want the latest and greatest because i wont be getting a new pc for awhile

thorny gate Jul 8, 2019, 11:14 PM

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not sure if i wanna build a zen 2 system or wait for intel 10 series lol

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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which one do you guys think is the best GTX 1660 Ti model out there

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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evga probably

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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msi i think

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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evga

weak hamlet Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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but try and match with what MOBO you get

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in my honest opinion

urban ferry Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

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brand loyalty :D

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-gtx-1660-ti-ventus-xs-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137392?Description=1660 ti&cm_re=1660_ti-_-14-137-392-_-Product

uncut void Jul 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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what about the GTX 1660 TI Ventus XS 6G OC

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lol thats the same

dusk jay Jul 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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yeah that is msi

floral jetty Jul 8, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I got the armor

next mauve Jul 8, 2019, 11:53 PM

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🤐 Msi normally has the better overall pushed higher clock speeds on their graphics cards... as to who gives better customer service and warrantys i'll leave that to your research... Personally I value customer service and warranty length over a slightly boosted clock speed...

thorny gate Jul 9, 2019, 12:01 AM

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I use EVGA

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Will this mobo support 3600mhz ram? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157887

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 12:29 AM

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📎 unknown.png

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I'm confused by that tho.. I don't know how to tell if that supports 3600mhz because it doesn't explicitly say so

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 1:01 AM

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It will. Even if you buy 4200mhz RAM and put it in, it will work at stock speed. I certain of this because on my x370 mobo it supports up to 3200(OC) and my 3200mhz RAM works in it at 3200mhz. So it only makes sense that 3600mhz will work fine in a mobo that supports up to 4200(OC). That being said a specific brand of that speed may not work until later bios updates that support it. Some mobo's have limited support for awhile until further updates. For instance a mobo that supports Corsair 3200mhz ddr4 15CAS may not support Gskill 3200mhz ddr4 CAS15 yet. It's always good to look at the supported RAM list when buying a mobo, it should be listed on the mobo makers site when you navigate to that board's support section. @graceful flame

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Hey does anyone know if the m.2 comes with the screw to lock it into place or is it with the mobo?

thorny gate Jul 9, 2019, 2:18 AM

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its usually the motherboard. if you need them im sure you can find some on newegg

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Yeah it should be on the mainboard. Mine is.

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Thanks also do you think the new R7 3700X I can just use stock cooler or will I need after maket and I don’t plan on over locking

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 2:21 AM

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stock should be fine

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:21 AM

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the stock cooler should be plenty yea

ripe fulcrum Jul 9, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Ryzen stock fans are solid

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intel ones

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not so much

vivid elm Jul 9, 2019, 2:23 AM

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If you don’t plan on overclocking, the stock cooler should be fine for any gen 2 or 3 ryzen cpus

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:23 AM

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So I'm stuck on something; I want to build a Micro-ATX computer with an X570 mobo, but there is literally not a single mobo available right now to do that. I do not want to put a Mini-ITX mobo in a Micro-ATX case either... Any thoughts?

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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what you mean

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there's a mobo that's x570 and micro atx

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157887?item=N82E16813157887&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157887&gclid=CjwKCAjw04vpBRB3EiwA0IiealEUTtCP7OUtDQXIp79BK74enmCLuqQv6Il5qadFvaPGvDStgNCubRoCTzgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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You may have to use a b450 board and plate it

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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on newegg, ikr, my first newegg link

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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If that is true

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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that link right there

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is literally an x570 micro atx mobo releasing soon.

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though it's expensive.

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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There's ONE mobo; and it doesn't ship for another like 10 days...

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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which one

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i linked the asrock x570m pro4

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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The link you had was the only one I found too

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yea

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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yep

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lol kinx

vivid elm Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Not a lot of x570 are out yet. They literally released yesterday. For more options you might have to wait a few weeks/months to get non-“average” builds

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 AM

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jinX

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:26 AM

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I mean, are there any ways that I can find out who might be releasing Micro-ATX X570 mobos and when?

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Yeah pretty good for being only relieved yesterday as you said @vivid elm

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Are there any potential Micro-ATX mobos to be released by Asus or MSI?

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Probably

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Does anyone know the best deal on a good 1080P monitor

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:31 AM

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does it matter with the refresh rate

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Anything above 60 is good

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:33 AM

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but you would be fine with 60?

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Maybe 75

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:33 AM

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ok

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Right now I have 75

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:34 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/aoc-22v2h-21-5-full-hd/p/N82E16824160374?Description=1080p monitor 75hz&cm_re=1080p_monitor_75hz-_-24-160-374-_-Product

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that's a good one

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Yeah also do you think I should use a WD m.2 ssd or a 2.5 Samsung ssd

thorny gate Jul 9, 2019, 2:37 AM

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for gaming?

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i use m.2

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:37 AM

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m.2 faster

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:37 AM

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I just don’t trust the wd m.2

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 2:37 AM

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they're both good

thorny gate Jul 9, 2019, 2:40 AM

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i use intel 760p its 3200/1600 i believe

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Will Asus release more x570 boards than what they have so far?

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 2:47 AM

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I have a 760p, I dont think its quite that fast

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unless you have a larger drive, mine is only 256gb

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Ok I think I may go with a 2.5 thanks y’all 😉

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 2:54 AM

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@dusk jay This is a pretty good deal on a great SSD: https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-1tb/p/N82E16820156174

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 2:54 AM

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keep in mind that NVMe M.2 SSDs are at least 3x faster than 2.5" SATA or even M.2 SATA drives

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and they're not that much more expensive

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Yeah Idk tho my budget is already tight

turbid sluice Jul 9, 2019, 2:57 AM

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@hasty marsh M.2 is just the form factor, they are not always faster, although NVMe drives use M.2

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 2:58 AM

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sata ssds are still the same speed as 2.5 inch ssds, correct?

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 2:58 AM

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and that is why i specifically separated NVMe M.2 and SATA M.2

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 2:58 AM

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nvme ssds are the fast ones

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well

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super fast

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 2:58 AM

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actually

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SATA M.2 runs at the same speed as a SATA 2.5"

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because it's the same controller

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 2:59 AM

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How does a sata m.2 work

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Can you send an example

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 2:59 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opwON-7J_wI

YouTube

Techquickie

M.2 As Fast As Possible

Drives always seem to be getting smaller and faster. How can the new M.2 interface help your PC work more quickly? Squarespace link: Visit http://squarespace...

▶ Play video

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 2:59 AM

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it uses the same bandwidth as the sata ports which go up to 6gbps

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the NVME ssds use PCIE bandwidth which is a lot bigger

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:00 AM

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yeah

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PCI-E 3.0 drives can hit 5GB/s transfers

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Oh I have never seen a m.2 plug in through sata tho

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:01 AM

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it doesn't

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the same port is for SATA M.2 and NVMe M.2

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it just uses the SATA controller, which is part of the chipset

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then the NVMe drives use the PCI-E bus

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Oh I see the nvme is like the more expensive one that uses the pci e bus and the sata is the cheaper one that uses the sata chipset

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:04 AM

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it's not that much more expensive

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:04 AM

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It’s a bit

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Right now I have a 480 Kingston drive

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SSD

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:05 AM

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SATA M.2: https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-500gb/p/N82E16820156177?Description=SATA M.2 500GB&cm_re=SATA_M.2_500GB-_-20-156-177-_-Product

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NVMe M.2: https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-500gb/p/N82E16820156200?Description=NVMe 500GB&cm_re=NVMe_500GB-_-20-156-200-_-Product

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both the same size

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and the NVMe is 4x faster

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Should I get a sata or nvme

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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if you have an M.2 slot, NVMe every time

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I will have to get a 256 bf

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Go

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Gg

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 3:07 AM

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i also have 256 boy friends

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Wow ok

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Now now

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Should I get the 500 gb Samsung one or a 256 nvme

turbid sluice Jul 9, 2019, 3:29 AM

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256GB will fill up very quick

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 3:30 AM

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id only get 256 if i was using it as a boot drive

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:39 AM

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256 is good for the OS and maybe 2 or 3 games ideally

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it doesnt last long at all

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My boot drive is a 256gb drive and with just windows 10 and about 2 years worth of downloads I have 90gb free

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yeah, a 240 or 256GB is really cutting it close these days

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:52 AM

#

Hey is a AMD Radeon 560 series good for mining bitcoin or any other crypto currency?

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:52 AM

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GPUs haven't been the go-to for coin for a while now

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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True

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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you cant mine enough bitcoin with a gpu to ever make money

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you can mine other coins and trade for bitcoin

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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get an ASIC

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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I know but some cards may help

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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or use nicehash and it pays out in bitcoin

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 AM

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okay.

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Wait but how much is the server?

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:54 AM

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with nicehash it mines coins on your computer and pays you for the coins you mine in bitcoin

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Oh.

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How much?

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:54 AM

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but they take some of the money

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you can look it up on their site

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:54 AM

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How much %

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Oh

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aight thanks

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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you wont make much

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Oof I need money

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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is your electricity free

keen hazel Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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thats why i'm doing iy

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it*

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Indeed

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:57 AM

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do research before you invest anything. your client will take a percentage whether thats nicehash, minergate, or you use a cli miner with your own wallet. Then transfering coins will take a percentage, and then cashing it out for cash takes a percentage

#

if you cashout with paypal they take a percentage

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if you arent careful with how you move your coins around its easy to lose 20-30% before it is cash in your pocket

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

#

Hey do you guys know if you can put a first or second gen Ryzen in an x570 board?

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 12:59 PM

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@dusk jay i hope this will answer your question

📎 AMD-X570-Support.jpg

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22 year PC technician here. Let me know if you have questions. I'll be glad to help

turbid sluice Jul 9, 2019, 1:35 PM

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@dusk jay you can use a second gen CPU but not first gen

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 3:27 PM

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bristol ridge apu's will also not work

untold laurel Jul 9, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Anyone know when the ryzen 7 3800x or the MSI super is going to be back in stock?

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:46 PM

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heh

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I'd be surprised

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if anyone besides maybe @vague haven responded with an answer to that

weak hamlet Jul 9, 2019, 5:48 PM

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best thing to do is put yourself on the auto-notify list.

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:48 PM

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yep

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Any release date for the 3950X?

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:48 PM

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sept I think

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not sure exact date

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Yeah, I heard the same, thought someone else might have new info, idk, was worth a shot

weak hamlet Jul 9, 2019, 5:49 PM

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yeah sept time frame

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📎 unknown.png

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:49 PM

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I held back on getting the 3700X because the 3950X looks too crazy to pass up on

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Also, already running a 2700X

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:50 PM

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yeah I'm sticking with my 2700X for now

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:50 PM

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It's a good processor, for sure

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:50 PM

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yep no complaints about it

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Same

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 5:51 PM

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3700X DID look pretty amazing though, admittedly

glad turret Jul 9, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Well, it outclasses Intel's current offering

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And the 3950X obliterates everything Intel

#

It's an interesting time for processor R&D lol

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Oof for intel -.- and oof for me I just got the 9900k like 3 weeks ago

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Fml

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 6:23 PM

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it's a good chip

#

3900X is the same price

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I know -.-

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I goofed bro haha

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I shoulda waited

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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not imo

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but I understand

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Really? I mean I got my CPU to 5.0 stable so

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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if the 3900X was only $400, I'd agree with you lol

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but being same price, the performance is not THAT far apart on them

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x570 has the newer pci-e4.0 but unless you get a new gen4 nvme it's not going to do a whole lot

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Whew....ok well thanks for calming me down a bit just like F**K WHAT A WASTE OF MY MONEY 😂

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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so I wouldn't be too mad if I were you, but I like both intel and AMD

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haha

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yeah you've got a darn good chip there

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Yeah me too? I like both, I’m not biased at all

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It’s like when people ask me do I like foot ball? Sure whatever team is kicking whoever’s ass I’ll go with them 😂

wraith plover Jul 9, 2019, 6:27 PM

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haha

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I was impressed by the improvements made in the 3700X over the 2700X as much as anything else

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I'm running a 2700X now and I'm not upgrading now, but it was tempting lol

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faster, better performance and IPC, lower TDP

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same release price as last gen too

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was a nice jump

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 6:39 PM

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it's super tempting to upgrade my 7700k to a 3700x

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or even the 3900x and the 3950x

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however i'm afraid that those CPUs especially the 9's will bottleneck with my rtx 2060

untold laurel Jul 9, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@languid flame dont worry, I have my i7 9700K still in the box for my new build and yet I have no idea when the ryzen 7 3800x is going to go back in stock, I have 16 days left before returns run out on all my parts

quaint current Jul 9, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Live near a micro center?

untold laurel Jul 9, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Nah, I wish

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I would wait but if my parts return runs out and I have DOA parts...

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Damn

floral jetty Jul 9, 2019, 7:29 PM

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didn't know there were ones below the 3600

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for laptops?

languid flame Jul 9, 2019, 7:35 PM

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@untold laurel eh actually man that 9700k is still a friggin beast too

round crest Jul 9, 2019, 8:16 PM

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checking

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whats the max supported RAM speed on that board @cyan nebula

floral jetty Jul 9, 2019, 8:42 PM

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wow it really doesn't say, I've heard something about AMD not liking super high clocks so 3200 and below should be safe

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take that with a grain of salt

sharp blaze Jul 9, 2019, 8:43 PM

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3000 series cpus have been easily doing up to 4000mhz ram.

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At least in the reviews I have seen

floral jetty Jul 9, 2019, 8:51 PM

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does it make a difference for productivity

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cuz I know it's a minimal one for gaming

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Is this a good ram timing? 14-14-14-34

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:16 PM

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yes

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very good

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but very expensive

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maybe a bit unnecessary even

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Please explain to me why the last number is super high and how that makes it decent ram. I'm dumb lol

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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well

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I see the 14's as good yea, but the 34 confuses me

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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the more standard ram timing is 16-18-18-38

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Ahhhh gotcha

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:18 PM

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the last number is always bigger

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no need to worry about that really

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Okay

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:20 PM

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yeah but tbh youre gonna have to pay more for that 14-14-14-34 timing

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id go for a 16-18-18-38 one if youre wanting to cut back on costs

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Okay, I'm currently trying to find G.Skill tridentZ (doesn't matter if RGB) with a decent timing at 3600mhz and 2 16gb sticks

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:22 PM

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lemme go see if i can find that

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Awesome, thanks much!

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:22 PM

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sure

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gimme a minute

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this is directly from g.skills website

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i wouldnt get the royal series

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but anyways

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thats all the trident z they have in 3200mhz

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3600*

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Yea, I'm not interested in the royals lol

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:25 PM

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ok good lol

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since the ram speed is higher, the timings have a bit of headway

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like

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since the speed of the ram is so high the timings can be a bit longer since it finishes stuff faster

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:26 PM

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alrighty lol, it's confusing but i get it yea

urban ferry Jul 9, 2019, 9:26 PM

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heres a link if u wanna see the website for yourself https://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=31&series=0&prop_4=0&prop_2=32GB+(16GBx2)&prop_3=3600MHz

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 9:28 PM

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When I search the silver one (F4-3600C17D-32GTZSW) on newegg, it brings me to one listing but it's 3200mhz

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rip

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Honestly tho, what is the sweet spot of ram speed for a 3700X?

brazen marten Jul 9, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Anyone know if the x470 f gaming is any good compaired to the b450 tomahawk not compairing price

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 9:46 PM

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x470 is better than a B450. It has better overclocking features and better VRM @brazen marten

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also x470 supports SLI if you're into that

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

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sli?

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x470 is am4 dude

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you talking about crossfire?

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yeah lol the x470 dont support sli, only crossfire

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I flippin hate trying to find ram that I want

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:09 PM

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whats wrong

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:10 PM

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hey ya'll what do you think would be a better option for me? Keeping my rx 570 and not getting an NVMe M.2 or a 1080p 75HZ monitor or getting a 500 gb 2.5 inch ssd instead of the m.2 and getting a rx 590

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:11 PM

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do you need space

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 PM

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what do you mean

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 PM

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do you need more storage

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Lol; I'm just frustrated at finding ram. After looking for about an hour now, I came up with the two following options...

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232575?Item=N82E16820232575

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232484?Item=N82E16820232484

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 PM

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no i have 1tb hdd and a 480 gb kingston and i dont have many games

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:13 PM

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My goal is to get 32gb of 3600mhz ram with pretty decent timings

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:13 PM

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32 gb ram is un needed

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:13 PM

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then either get the 75hz monitor or the rx 590

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unless you do a lot on your pc

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:13 PM

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i cant get both as i explained

slender fossil Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I have 128 gbs of ram i have 2845 tabs on chrome open markFlannel

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I mean, why should I stay with only 16gb of RAM

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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ok.

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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^^

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Chrome eats ram up like none other

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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because you will never need 32 gb

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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still 16gb is a good amount

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@dusk jay some people do if they have a workstation

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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and I like my unorganized chrome tabs (insert less disgusting emoji here)

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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spit*

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disgusting

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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thats what I was gonna mention @hasty marsh is that if you are proffesionally editing videos and doing a ton of stuff on your pc it is maybe needed

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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yeah

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that's it

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end of conversation

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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rip

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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but is the monitor a better idea or the graphics cards @hasty marsh

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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get monitor first

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because you're only getting 60 even if you buy the rx 590 anyways

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get a better refresh rate monitor

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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really you think 570 is enough

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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but even if you stick with rx570, you wont need the rx590

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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its the same specs as my current monitor btw

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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because you can only get 75 frames anyways

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unless you're getting a 144hz monitor in the near future, just get the 75hz first

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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ok so i should not get the 590

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Get the 59p

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590

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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@dusk jay when will you be getting a 144hz monitor at least?

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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You will prob regret it later but that's life

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:22 PM

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never @hasty marsh

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:24 PM

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why not

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less than 200 dollars

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:31 PM

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cause idc about going above 60FPS

hasty marsh Jul 9, 2019, 10:31 PM

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oh nvm

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then dont get the rx 590

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get the monitor

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then get your storage and you'll be done

dusk jay Jul 9, 2019, 10:32 PM

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what do you mean by ill be done

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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@hasty marsh "MULTI-GPU: With Steel Armor PCI-E slots. Supports NVIDIA SLI™ & AMD Crossfire™" https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/X470-GAMING-M7-AC

X470 GAMING M7 AC | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboard ...

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That's just one example of a x470 mobo with SLI support

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Can someone please help me find where this RAM (https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3600c16d-16gtzkw) is for sale; new

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It's on sale on newegg but by a third party and its price is spiked up

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728?Item=N82E16820232728&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2F6jBTwP%2Fgskill-trident-z-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-16gtzrx&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-48Y3_AYFKcibGJy4z_Bibg

graceful flame Jul 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

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That's a different timing

austere tree Jul 9, 2019, 10:54 PM

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yeah, literally no one has that RAM with that timing for sale right now

naive pendant Jul 9, 2019, 10:55 PM

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this is the rgb version: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491

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same CAS of 16

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@graceful flame ^

true yarrow Jul 10, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Does anyone know if the ROG Strix thing underneath the GPU is supposed to be RGB? Mines not lighting up

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If it is, did I forget to plug something in?

weak hamlet Jul 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

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no doesn't light up

naive pendant Jul 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

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How good is the Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Elite

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Would be using a i7 9700k

proven topaz Jul 10, 2019, 1:44 AM

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ok

naive pendant Jul 10, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Or suggest a better one for sub 200$?

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I/o ports is somewhat of a thing with me

brittle swallow Jul 10, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I need the keystrokes of a HP Flyer Red laptop when activating downloading windows from a flash drive

ebon verge Jul 10, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Can the bios of the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon be updated without a cpu. I saw this in a video with a different MSI mobo and was wondering if mine can do it

graceful flame Jul 10, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Can someone please explain the differences between these MSI mobos that constitutes their prices? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=13-144-261%2C13-144-260%2C13-144-259

austere tree Jul 10, 2019, 2:54 AM

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one has RGB

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and better VRMs

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then the $369 one has a ton more features

graceful flame Jul 10, 2019, 2:55 AM

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What are the most important features in the most expensive one that makes it so expensive?

austere tree Jul 10, 2019, 2:57 AM

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scroll down to Features

split heart Jul 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Also the more expensive ones can handle more in general, and have speedier plugs.

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It's often not that much of a speed increase, but it's still something if you want the fastest of the faaast.

floral jetty Jul 10, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Better Vrm, better onboard sound, better built-in wifi/bluetooth, more thunderbolt ports, etc, etc

tulip patio Jul 10, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Anyone seen a review yet of the ryzen 7 3800x? Curious to see how it compares to the 3700x.

graceful flame Jul 10, 2019, 7:15 PM

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I'm also curious about the 3800x yea

austere tree Jul 10, 2019, 7:21 PM

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no one has reviewed it yet

floral jetty Jul 10, 2019, 7:22 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OXbhgnHvXQ

YouTube

TheSpyHood

Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 5 3600X vs Ryzen 7 3700X vs Ryzen 7 3800X vs...

Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 5 3600X vs Ryzen 7 3700X vs Ryzen 7 3800X vs Ryzen 9 3900X | Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB | 1080p 1440p Benchmark #Ryzen53600 #Ryzen53600X #Ry...

▶ Play video

glossy kettle Jul 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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even if i snag an x570, do you think it'd be worth it to get a gen 4 ssd or or wait till the prices drop? i'd be using it in a streaming/editing/light gaming rig

floral jetty Jul 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Wait

glossy kettle Jul 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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bet. i was looking at the asus prime x470 pro -- but i feel like i should upgrade to the x570 pro. purely for gen 4 when prices come down

floral jetty Jul 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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the cheapest x570s are about the same as average x470s

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so I say why not, then no bios updating tomfoolery

glossy kettle Jul 10, 2019, 8:41 PM

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yes! that was my thought as well. and the asus prime x570 is quite the attractive mobo. Thanks for helping me with this decision haha

jade matrix Jul 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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whats a good processor intel or ryzen for around 230?

naive pendant Jul 11, 2019, 12:03 AM

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@jade matrix https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568 as AMD has the better price/performance ratio.

turbid sluice Jul 11, 2019, 4:22 PM

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What motherboard should I get for a Ryzen 3900X with a budget of $300

quaint current Jul 11, 2019, 4:25 PM

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uhhh any decent x570

austere tree Jul 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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that depends if you want like mITX or ATX

turbid sluice Jul 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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ATX

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But not EATX, that doesn't fit in my case

austere tree Jul 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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i mean the best for that would probably be the Aorus Ultra

turbid sluice Jul 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Thanks, I'll check it out

brazen token Jul 11, 2019, 5:11 PM

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@vague haven I'm confused why a 5 year old CPU is "on sale" for more than it cost at release. This just a mix up?

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austere tree Jul 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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because it's not sold by Newegg

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brazen token Jul 11, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Odd, good to know. I didn't think about other sellers being listed in the promo newsletters.

tulip flint Jul 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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This happens all the time with outdated hardware that's out of production still showing for sale for an excessive amount

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That's why I hate a lot of 2nd hand sales where people think their 5 year old computer is worth $2,000 because they looked up their parts and saw the prices high

sleek crystal Jul 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Hi, is the Corsair Vengeance memory is compatible with the new iMac 2019 (5K display, 27") ?

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance®-Series-64GB-(4x16GB)-DDR4-SODIMM-2666MHz-CL18-Memory-Kit/p/CMSX64GX4M4A2666C18

Vengeance® Series 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 SODIMM 2666MHz CL18 Memory Kit

Corsair Vengeance Series DDR4 SODIMM memory modules are designed for high performance on 6th generation Intel Core systems. No configuration is required to take advantage of the higher speed – just plug it in and go.

gentle lintel Jul 12, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Which is why I dislike a lot of the marketplace aspect of things. So many random prices out of nowhere.

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:46 AM

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yeah, if i want older parts like that i'mma just go to Ebay tbh

hasty marsh Jul 12, 2019, 3:47 AM

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that's a lot what the heLk

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:47 AM

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i've seen people on Amazon and other marketplaces still selling older GPUs for sky-high prices and listing mining as a benefit

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Hah

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:48 AM

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like, i just want an older GPU to put in a secondary rig

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i don't wanna pay new prices for it

gentle lintel Jul 12, 2019, 3:49 AM

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What are you looking for older gpu and price range?

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:50 AM

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The first GPU I had goes for about twice what it cost new on amazon right now...

hasty marsh Jul 12, 2019, 3:50 AM

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"yes, finally, ive been scowering the internet for old and used cards that were mined 2 years ago and are irrvelevant, MY TIME HAS COME"

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:51 AM

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yeah, i need to put a better GPU in my sister's rig

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i think i'll just get a 570

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Ya, that’s what’s in my backup/more mobile rig

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:51 AM

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it would be a big upgrade from her 550Ti

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LUL

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:52 AM

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O.o

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:52 AM

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she doesn't game all that much

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:52 AM

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She do any editing or 3D work?

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:52 AM

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nah, it's more of a light gaming/school work/ web browsing sort of a thing

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which is why it's fine with its Q8350 and 550Ti

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Ah, the kind of stuff you can use onboard graphics for 😛

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:53 AM

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yeah, but you can't 600fps in a point and click hidden items game with onboard graphics from 2008

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Is that a challenge?

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:54 AM

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peeposcared

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maybe

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Hmm, what is the absolute best mobo from 2008

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:54 AM

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ASRock G41C-GS LGA 775 G41 DDR2+DRR3 8GB Micro ATX Motherboard

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that one apparently

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Oh yeah. This isn’t happening

hasty marsh Jul 12, 2019, 3:56 AM

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lol

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:56 AM

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my guy forgot LGA 775 was a thing

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what an awkward time for motherboards

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Also, DDR2 oof 1066 squad up in here

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 3:57 AM

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i ran a Q6600 from 2007 to like

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2013

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Dang that’s a good lifespan. Especially compared to how fast tech is improving nowadays.

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Processors are outdated way before they’re dead

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 4:00 AM

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yeah, which is a real shame

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my 3770 still does just fine

vivid elm Jul 12, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I might sell/give my 2600x to a friend and go back to my fx 8320 just because

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Feels rude to just have it sitting around

naive pendant Jul 12, 2019, 4:03 AM

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@vivid elm That sounds like a really nice thing to do.

turbid sluice Jul 12, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Why not give your friend the fx @vivid elm

modest grove Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

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im looking for a zen 2 supported mobo thats around the price range of $150-$200 dollars

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

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okay, just a sec

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any specific features you need like WiFi?

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cheaper option: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144262?Item=N82E16813144262&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2Fq4Dkcf%2Fmsi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-plus&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-PlrzqGDjylNP3jMibUDGZg

$200 option: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145160?Item=N82E16813145160&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FnHxbt6%2Fgigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-KF7lQot6a_I2vF2mI2KBkA

$209 with WiFi and Bluetooth option : https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144261?Item=N82E16813144261&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FgwPgXL%2Fmsi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Oh5e_fhBY0sjwqNm9P.4HQ

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that last one is technically $200 after a 10 mail in rebate card

untold laurel Jul 12, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Hey my mobo says 3200 OC, I have 2133 ram rated for 3200, do I have to overclock my mobo after I enable the xmp profile or can I just change the frequency and be done?

floral jetty Jul 12, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Just enable XMP and see what happens

austere tree Jul 12, 2019, 8:33 PM

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yep

floral jetty Jul 12, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I know for my ram it was defaulting to 1333 I enabled xmp and it went to proper 1600 (ddr3)

lean agate Jul 12, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Ello i was thinking of upgrading my ram into something faster (rn i got 16gb hyperx @2400mhz on aorus wifi 7 mobo and r5 2600x) and im here a bit confused what would be the best choice...any sugestions guys(for gaming mostly 😂)

floral jetty Jul 12, 2019, 10:36 PM

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if it's for gaming

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don't.

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I don't know if you already have ddr4 it might be worth it to wait for ddr5? I'm not sure

lean agate Jul 12, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Ddr4

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Im not in a hurry tho indeed 😅

hasty marsh Jul 12, 2019, 10:58 PM

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get some 3000mhz or faster

lean agate Jul 12, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Was thinking about 3200 or maybe eaven more

floral jetty Jul 12, 2019, 11:07 PM

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you can find good deals on 3200 16gb for like 55-70 bucks

lean agate Jul 12, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Yea was just listing newegg 🤭 will figure something out feel like 3200 is sweet spot

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Ty for tips guys

quaint current Jul 12, 2019, 11:22 PM

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ddr5 ram is supposed to hit the market at the soonest 2020 @floral jetty

floral jetty Jul 12, 2019, 11:23 PM

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wait for it then yeeeeet

lean agate Jul 12, 2019, 11:33 PM

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And will cost as 2080 lol 🤭 idn if im rdy for that hart attack 😂

untold laurel Jul 13, 2019, 12:49 AM

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@floral jetty apparently I have to set a profile so I'll have to change the frequency manually, not as simple as just enabling, dont think I'll have to set the voltage or timings right?

floral jetty Jul 13, 2019, 12:50 AM

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no clue I've never tried to overclock ram

coarse frigate Jul 13, 2019, 12:55 AM

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The two blue thing are ram. 8gb in total. This all in one pc is like an eternity years old

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floral jetty Jul 13, 2019, 1:08 AM

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there's something fun about upgrading stuff though

desert parrot Jul 13, 2019, 2:03 AM

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@coarse frigate that looks cool tbh

naive pendant Jul 13, 2019, 2:13 AM

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@untold laurel It's probably like most motherboards you get these days where you have to manually set speed and timings, possibly even voltage. Just go by the exact specs on the RAM packaging you got and you should be fine.

untold laurel Jul 13, 2019, 2:31 AM

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@naive pendant I appreciate it, another friend just told me to change the frequency but last time I trusted him with OC ne fried my graphics card

naive pendant Jul 13, 2019, 2:32 AM

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@untold laurel Yikes. Well good luck with the RAM settings, let us know how it goes?

untold laurel Jul 13, 2019, 4:45 AM

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@naive pendant will do, still considering it!

shy wyvern Jul 13, 2019, 8:06 AM

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How much of a difference is 4.7 vs 5ghz on an i5-8600k?

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When I push 5 my CPU hits 88-90 with my cooler and I don't know if that's healthy, 4.7 is a nice 72 on max load

tulip flint Jul 13, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I would not be comfortable with my CPU running at over 80C for extended periods of time

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However I must also note that with that generation of intel CPUs, you can benefit a lot with a delid and liquid metal, my 8700k dropped an average of 15-20C

shy wyvern Jul 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I might delid then. I'm using the thermal grizzly stuff, it dropped my temps a bit without delidding

tulip flint Jul 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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what cooler do you use?

jovial iris Jul 14, 2019, 3:05 AM

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@shy wyvern conductonaut is the right one

shy wyvern Jul 14, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I'm not sure the exact model, but it's this blue led one from deep cool

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Matches my black and blue case theme

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 4:52 AM

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would i ask for info in here, or in the #old-cooling channel about making sure i liquid metal cool my cpu and gpu properly?

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well mulitiple questions actually, one coming soon, and reference for a few months down the line to do similar on a tower rather than my aw 17 r4

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 4:57 AM

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what do you want to know?

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 4:59 AM

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ive got some conductonaut here already, and some 422B silicone conformsl coming next week. and was reading about using kapton tape as extra layer over top

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would i brush on the conformal around the die andlet it sit, and maybe give it a 2nd pass and cure, or apply kapton tape over While it's curing for a bond?

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LTT's video was little cringe just using regular electricsl tape 😛

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:01 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-NY5x7ymg

YouTube

Actually Hardcore Overclocking

How to safely apply liquid metal to things.

AHOC Patreon/Shirts/Paypal/Junkyard:http://cxzoid.blogspot.co.uk/p/support-fail.html The Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/buildzoid The blog: http://cxzoid.blogs...

▶ Play video

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here's a proper video

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:01 AM

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and iUnlock's picture guide madde no mention of even using any pcb

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actually sorta windering if adding the kapton tape, would the width of it matter so much as just an extra line of defense?

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qtip 😛 i actually ordered the pouch with the tight wound black q tips and the little applicator for it to not shoot everywhere 😃

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:04 AM

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some people recommend liquid electrical tape

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:05 AM

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ive actually got that on order right now for around the die

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:05 AM

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nice choice

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:07 AM

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was more asking about the extra precautioning (since this IS a laptop and wont be flat at all times) if kapton tape would be better choice AFTER applying the coating

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since wouldnt it be more heast resistant than the glue on electricsl tape?

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:08 AM

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it is more heat resistant

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and personally, i would

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with liquid metal, take all the precautions

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:09 AM

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black electrical tape will slide off of whatever its touching when it gets hot enough

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it would be find in a test bench laying flat for a few days

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:10 AM

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so how about When to apply it then? once there's a nice cure'd coating of conformal on everything? or tape over it as it's curing? or cure it once, and apply 2nd coat and tape over That coat as it's curing?

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yeah this is in an aw 17 r4 so not always idle or flat

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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I have never really heard of kapton tape coming loose

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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same

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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I have pulled apart some old computers especially old psu's and the tape is still stuck

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:12 AM

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nice 😃

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i kow electricsl taoe melts

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just look at any contractor work someone's done outside yoru house thattehy wrapped with electrical tape

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big gooy mess 😐

austere tree Jul 14, 2019, 5:13 AM

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yeah

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:13 AM

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ya, I have been in some attics that got up to around 150F in the summer and the glue on electrical tape had almost liquified at that temp

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better tape will hold up better, but even that just isnt designed for that application

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:13 AM

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yeah or it just pulls right off like wrapping paper from the glue drying up 😐

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:14 AM

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ya, thats usually the cheap vinyl tape

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I have never felt the need to use liquid metal on anything

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I would worry too much about it eating away at the copper

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:16 AM

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would the width of he tape overhanging the board itself the die is actually on, matter?

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dont menlike hanging an inch or 2 orr, but maybe over hnging the edges some

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*off

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:17 AM

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should be fine, trim it after its stuck down if you need to

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:17 AM

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figrued as much, just confirming 😃

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:17 AM

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I would cover the area around the cpu on the mainboard as well just incase any comes out

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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theonly other working laptop i got is a toshibe satellite that can barely run ubuntu....so i'd Like to not fry this one lol

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at lest until i csn finish building my tower

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399058433619394580/599818388390412318/JPEG_20190629_101304.jpg

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so just a wee bit around the edges just to be safe?

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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My best laptop has an amd a8 4555 in it. I think its about 6 years old now

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it was cheap when I bought it

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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i got this thinkn like maybe a year ago

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it'll get up to 90, 91, 91c at times

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so i Gotta fix that bs

hasty marsh Jul 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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perfect temp

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oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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while you are at it, you can use some of the kapton tape around the area where the heatsink vents to seal it up and make sure the air from the fan is actually going through the heatsink. On mine a lot of the air was going around it and back into the case

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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ohhh yeeeaaaah.....when you open a game and set a tier for 2 minutes

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then screen covers in artifacts and windows blue screens

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that's ferfect running temp, right?

sharp blaze Jul 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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I'm off to play overwatch. good luck with the liquid metal

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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ive actually got a brand new fan and heatsink assembly inthe mail too 😃

devout mothBOT Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Tophat Jones#0437 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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oops..didnt know, sry 😃

hasty marsh Jul 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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cant say bad poopy no no words

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kids are watching

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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they say worse things than adults 😛

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all good, just didnt realize i coudlnt say 💩

hasty marsh Jul 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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say poopy

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say "REALLY BAD NO NO ANTI KID WORD for poop"

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that's good

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yeee

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:26 AM

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i was almost waiting for another warning for 💩 emote lol

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that'd actually be sorta funny though

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oh...any suggestions on any brands of kapton tape being better than others?

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 5:27 AM

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So what cpu you guys running?

hasty marsh Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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rye san frive 2600x

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Noice

hasty marsh Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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cant forget the X

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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i7-7820hk

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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I got ryz 7 2700

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X

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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2.9 but came clocked from factory at like 3.6

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Don’t really like intel that much

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 5:29 AM

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omg i just realized my last windows reinstall i never put hwinfo or zcpu back on here

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so all of this shouldnt be much different at all for an i9-9900k, and an 3tx 2080 ti black, eh

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is rockit 88 the only delid for lga 1151?

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maybe not Right Away, but ima wanna remove intel's toothpaste in there and put something useful 😃

fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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ooooo wait...for de-de-lidding i9 9900k, would that work or any reco's for somehiing better?

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fierce nimbus Jul 14, 2019, 7:07 AM

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oh wow amazon

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https://gyazo.com/f589a9263f1d4890fd05b4cff3f29089

Gyazo

dense cloud Jul 14, 2019, 7:18 AM

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stright from china

gleaming marsh Jul 14, 2019, 7:47 AM

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So i'm looking at getting the Ryzen 3600 for a new build soon. I'm wanting some information on thermals and what to expect as far as temps go. I like to try and keep temperatures low on components of the computer. I know they're made to handle high heat but I still like to try and keep temperatures away from their max operating temperatures. My FX processor that I currently use (yes It's a bit old) will usually top out around 130fF(54C) after running under full load for a while. I'm hoping to keep temperatures low here as well. Does anyone have information on the new 3600, and whether it might be better to go water cooled this time?

ripe fulcrum Jul 14, 2019, 9:06 AM

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In my opinion (without facts to back it up)

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You shouldn't ever really need water cooling but its definitely a nice thing to have

floral jetty Jul 14, 2019, 1:39 PM

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If you overclock, it's good for that

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If your PC is in a less than ideal temperature spot, it's good for that

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(I don't have AC for example)

tulip flint Jul 14, 2019, 4:31 PM

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are you aiming for temperatures that low under normal use, or under a stress test?

gleaming marsh Jul 14, 2019, 6:21 PM

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At idle, as well as under load. I'm hoping to still be able to use an air cooler.

thorny gate Jul 14, 2019, 6:23 PM

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anyone knows if theyre gonna release a new intel cpu this year before christmas?

gleaming marsh Jul 14, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I think I heard some rumors about a new cpu from intel but I don't know any details or when it would be released (AMD fan here :p)

floral jetty Jul 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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there are 10nm rumors afoot

gleaming marsh Jul 14, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I don't think they'll be anything released this year. I could be wrong on that though

thorny gate Jul 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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hmmmm

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cause im running a r7 1700

gleaming marsh Jul 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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You should get a ryzen 3600 :p

thorny gate Jul 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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and if i overclock it wont downclock at all just stays at say 4ghz all day and im used to intel downclocking

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was thinking of getting a 3700x but my question is do they downclock

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if i get a new motherboard ill be getting x570 asus rog strix

odd estuary Jul 14, 2019, 8:51 PM

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So any idea when the Zen 2 stuff will be restocked? My old i7-860 and Gigabyte 7790c need to be replaced asap.

lunar jungle Jul 14, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Best thing to do, is to sign up to be notified when it comes back in stock

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 9:16 PM

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^^

hoary ingot Jul 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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So the trident z rgb 3600 is on sale for $100 and the 3200 is also $100. Would it be worth getting the 3600 version or is there no point since i just have a 2700x

lunar jungle Jul 14, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Especially with them being the same price, why wouldn't you go with the 3600?

upbeat creek Jul 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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need some help with picking a cpu

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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@hoary ingot I'd go with the 3600.

upbeat creek Jul 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I truly would if i already hadn't spent my money on an intel motherboard i7 9700k or the 8700k, I have Z370 D3 MB

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I was saying that to Jucia.

upbeat creek Jul 14, 2019, 10:29 PM

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oh lol

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Can some one show me that 3600 ram

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

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@upbeat creek out of those 2 cpu's? There's only like a $14 difference, might as well go with the newer 9700K which is also a little faster.

hoary ingot Jul 14, 2019, 10:50 PM

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if i go with the 3600, it won't run at 3600 right?

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i'll probs go with it, just wondering

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 10:52 PM

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@hoary ingot That depends, what mobo are you using?

hoary ingot Jul 14, 2019, 10:52 PM

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rog b450-f

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 10:54 PM

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@hoary ingot Well it should work but your mobo may down clock it to 3200mhz as that is what ASUS says your max speed is.

hoary ingot Jul 14, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Alrighty, thanks for the info

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Probs still worth going for 3600 then?

south wind Jul 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Do you think my motherboard can run that speed

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My mother board is AB350M

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:31 PM

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depends

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who made it

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@hoary ingot thats a great mobo, I have the same one :p

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

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@hoary ingot It may support more than 3200, maybe after BIOS updates. My MSI mobo specs on their site says my mobo only handles 3200(OS) but in my BIOS I can use up to 4200.

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@weak hamlet How's your new cpu working out for ya, Box?

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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alright

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still trying to figure out the voltage

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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oh you overclocked it already?

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I don't like it running 1.45v

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no

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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oh

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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that is stock

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stock 1.45..

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 PM

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why don't you like it running at that?

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 PM

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cause not used to it lol

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idling between 50-60c

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doesn't stay

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always bouncing

naive pendant Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 PM

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stock cooler?

weak hamlet Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 PM

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lol no

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water.