graphics-cards

[burnt parcel]

they get partners to sell it for them

[topaz furnace]

And amd gets the $?

[ripe ivy]

That's how AMD distributes their reference cards

Yeah of course

They're partners, they share profits

[topaz furnace]

Ohh

So the exact same right?

[burnt parcel]

looks like i gotta get a 5600xt 😦

[ripe ivy]

Pretty much, from the looks of it AMD has the nicer packaging

Based on the unboxing videos from yesterday

[topaz furnace]

What time best buy come out?

[burnt parcel]

no clue

[rare tangle]

so whats the deal with best buy rn

[burnt parcel]

no clue

[ripe ivy]

Where did the 11AM thing come from?

[burnt parcel]

some dude said it

[west ginkgo]

yeah I didn't see a confirmation via link

[burnt parcel]

for the processors they sold it 1 hour after the release

[west ginkgo]

just a comment that it should be 11am

[burnt parcel]

so it was probable

[rare tangle]

yeah idk someone said it was when they open

[ripe ivy]

Eh it'll probably be in the next few hours then

[rare tangle]

i got it in my cart but every time i check out the order doesnt go through and i dont even get a message saying it doesnt go through

[fathom cliff]

Best buys open at 10AM local time. Last few Launches that is when they posted.

[sweet scaffold]

@rare tangle if you make it to the page 1/3 it says that it's OOS and to remove from your cart

[ripe ivy]

It's online only so it literally could be whenever

[sweet scaffold]

happened to me too. got excited in check out to be disappointed

[dreamy dragon]

Sam_#4963 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fathom cliff]

I know, but that is what happened for all NVIDIA GPU and the ryzen 5000

[rare tangle]

i mean if anyone did manage to get ryzen 5000, the performance for a ryzen chip and a 5700xt is almost as comparable to an i9 10900k and a 2080s

[fathom cliff]

They released at either 9AM or 10AM CST. As of RN it still says coming soon so I have no idea.

[random pebble]

What gaming benchmark would equate best to performance in destiny 2?

[limpid latch]

um destiny 2 will run good on a 1080ti

at 4k

so anything above that is fine

[rare tangle]

honestly im tempted to just pick up a 5700xt

[potent rampart]

Destiny is pretty old at this point anything will run it well. the update did knock performance a bit.

I've been running it since launch on a 1060 lol

[limpid latch]

i cant get back into destiny.. esp w/ the nerfing and even more nerf w/ sunsetting

[worn torrent]

guys is the 6800 releasing on bestbuy todau

[potent rampart]

We're stronger in PvE than we have ever been Piranha

[fringe mural]

honestly im tempted to just pick up a 5700xt
@rare tangle I currently have the Rog strix version, pretty good performance for 1080p.

[worn torrent]

imo destiny franchise died to me when d2 came out

[potent rampart]

i have 2600+ hours so trust me lol

[limpid latch]

im sure, but i liked killing things bymyself w/ skull of dire

[worn torrent]

bought founders edition and everything

was disappointed

had like 4 months on d1

[potent rampart]

Launch sucked, forsaken onward has been pretty good, the new model is a lot dryer, but i like the loop now

[rare tangle]

@fringe mural I was gonna pair it with a 5800x. that would make a really good 1440p competitor

[fringe mural]

@rare tangle with 5700XT: CoDMW at High 1080p: 85-100fps

[worn torrent]

i only did speedrunning

d2 speedrunning is dead to me

[fringe mural]

@rare tangle for sure. I use it with 3900X

[stable gorge]

best buy is really coming soon™ today

[worn torrent]

okay

[limpid latch]

forsaken was the best part.. then they got lazy and tried changing game back to d1

[worn torrent]

so dumb fr thi

[fading shard]

When and how do you know that @stable gorge

[worn torrent]

tho

[fringe mural]

@rare tangle I have 1440p monitor, so for some games I use it at 1440p no problem. I downgrade to 1080p for online FPS games only. just for the extra FPSs

[stable gorge]

heard it from a guy here lol

[worn torrent]

they came out with a new game a shoulda stuck to it

[rare tangle]

and im pretty sure the 3900x is like 20% slower or so than the 5800x so i think thats what im using

[worn torrent]

they fr suck

[topaz furnace]

Any news on best buy?

They got msi and xfx

Reference

[rare tangle]

nope and i dont think im even waiting for it

[dreamy dragon]

Sam_#4963 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[worn torrent]

also 11AM pst or EST?

so like rn or in 3 hrs

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[rare tangle]

it was supposed to be 10am cst

[fading shard]

At this point we do not know

[fringe mural]

bestbuy on "comming soon"... "soon" = today or tomorrow or next year.. xD

[worn torrent]

ive been refreshing since 6:00

[fading shard]

Someone call Best Buy up

[worn torrent]

its 8:21

havent stopped

[untold veldt]

there are two 3070 that have coming soon

[fringe mural]

my F5 key will break today

[topaz furnace]

What does f5 do?

[fading shard]

Refresh

[burnt parcel]

refresh

[fringe mural]

refresh

xD

[fading shard]

Lmao

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[worn torrent]

last time i called i got put on hold and 30 mins later the call auto canceled saying there are no agents on the line

[thorny topaz]

quick question, atm i'm rocking a RTX 970 as GPU.
what whould you buy between these 2 choises?
the 3070 or the 6800?
pls help

[keen notch]

is this a good build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dh4qHz

[limpid latch]

if 3080 somethings gotta drop today i suspect 3090 had some ftw3 w/ amazon

[worn torrent]

any one you could get LOL

any of the two you get first tbh

[burnt parcel]

i heard someone say that 3080s are gonna be on bestbuy at 12 est

so the amd cards might be then as well

again no real confirmation

[keen notch]

quick question, atm i'm rocking a RTX 970 as GPU.
what whould you buy between these 2 choises?
the 3070 or the 6800?
pls help
@thorny topaz 3070 is better if you want ray tracing if u don't care about it then 6800

[rose adder]

rip amd doesn't have dlss

no mc rtx

[worn torrent]

yeah in the future tho

[lone pond]

whens the next 3070 drop

[fading shard]

@thorny topaz yes anything you can get

[rare tangle]

im just gonna pick up a 5700xt ultra thicc 3

[topaz furnace]

What do you guys think of better, 6800xt or 3080?

[burnt parcel]

im going 5600xt

[worn torrent]

no one knows when next 3070 drop is

[ripe ivy]

Sildur's Vibrant Shaders still better than Minecraft RTX

[rose adder]

depends on what you play

[thorny topaz]

@keen notch i don't know, i have been playing for 4 years on a 970 so i gues it looks good but i don't pay attantion to it really. it's mostly about the grafhics to me i thnk

[lone pond]

honestly they need to limit it to one address

[fading shard]

@topaz furnace equal

[thorny topaz]

@fading shard why that xD

[rare tangle]

bro im running a 970 and a i5 2400. i just wanna start streaming again

[worn torrent]

tbh if you buy a new graphics card make sure at whatever resolution you play at is at least 144hz

[ripe ivy]

Wow

[worn torrent]

or fos

fps

cause its worlds apart

[ripe ivy]

Sandy Bridge i5, I'll tell you right now you'll improve your overall performance easy on the latest platforms

[topaz furnace]

Yea, out of the box amd is better than NV but when you turn on Dlss and ray tracing nv is better

[thorny topaz]

@jovial temple 970 with a i5 8400 here

[worn torrent]

60fps gaming at any resolution is dead to me

[rose adder]

so I need a 3090 for minecraft rtx?

there's no way I'm droping 1.5k on a video card

[worn torrent]

yes

it might not even run it properly tho

maybe 6 fps

[rose adder]

the experience is not worth that much to me

[ripe ivy]

Full Pathtracing is a dream right now dude

That's years down the line

[worn torrent]

what is that

im not a techie my bad

i wanna know tho

[ripe ivy]

It's pretty much what Minecraft RTX does

It path traces all the lighting and calculates how it casts shadows

[rose adder]

Imma stick with my 2070 super 😎

[dusk ivy]

What do you guys think of better, 6800xt or 3080?
@topaz furnace
6800xt

[ripe ivy]

And how it reflects off certain surfaces

[topaz furnace]

@topaz furnace
6800xt
@dusk ivy
Y tho

[rose adder]

if you are doing work on your computer I would say nvidia

[worn torrent]

6800xt better for everything including price

[ripe ivy]

A game like Minecraft or 25 year old game like Quake 2

[worn torrent]

except dlss

and raytracing

[topaz furnace]

True $50 less

[ripe ivy]

Those are literally the only games that support full path tracing because that's the best current hardware can do

[worn torrent]

and those may come to amd in future

[rose adder]

and CUDA...

[worn torrent]

plus tax btw

so more like 65 dollar difference ish

[wary anvil]

cuda

[fringe mural]

exactly.. 6800xt vs 3080... depends your build and on some variables like SAM/DLSS/RTX and what are you going to do with the card...

[ripe ivy]

Cuda is a hurdle for AMD, software developers don't care about OpenCL at all

[rose adder]

yeah if you are doing anything remotely related to ml nvidia has a monopoly

the parallel computing class at my university is literally taught in CUDA

[ripe ivy]

Its not like it's bad, it's just objectively worse

[rose adder]

because it's the industry standard

[wary anvil]

Nvidia will be adding their version of SAM and AMD will be adding their version of DLSS over the next months

[worn torrent]

forgive me if im dumb but isnt that what amds cdna cards are for

[ripe ivy]

They're for compute performance

[wary anvil]

They are, but they still don't have cuda

[ripe ivy]

Yeah like I said

Cuda is a big hurdle

[limpid latch]

streaming, extra features, up to 4k - nvidia.. cheaper lower than 4k and cheaper monitor options since no need for gsync - amd

[worn torrent]

ive been refreshing nonstop for 2.5 hours

[ripe ivy]

AMD would have to smash raw performance to compete

[worn torrent]

god damn

[rose adder]

tensorflow support would be a step in the right direction, but so much is written for CUDA right now in terms of research and supercomputing

[wary anvil]

AMD will probably never be able to support cuda natively. There are somne cross compilers that will compile cuda code to openCL binariesm but that requires the source code to be available and has a hit on performance and featureset

tensorflow has support for AMD GPUs now

[limpid latch]

if you have a 2018/19 samsung 49 inch which is only freesync get amd lol

[rose adder]

pretty sure nvidia gpus work with freesync

in most cases

[limpid latch]

chance of flicker

[median dragon]

So apparently you can buy more than 1 card at microcenter.

[ripe ivy]

The displays have to be certified don't it?

[median dragon]

Were any of you at the Georgia one?

When the 6800 series was released?

[wary anvil]

They will both work with just general frame sync

[ripe ivy]

Otherwise the compatibility is shaky

[limpid latch]

not need certify but if they are certified supposed to not have flicker

[median dragon]

Anyone see that guy buy two sapphires?

[viral elbow]

How are you guys getting the 2070 super? They’re mostly out of stock because the production stopped long ago or its price is so high

[rose adder]

I got mine from evga b stock for $360

[limpid latch]

microcenter shouldnt let ppl buy more than 1 at a time that has to be false

[viral elbow]

The one from yesterday?

[median dragon]

I looked on Ebay mans has 2

I'm gonna kill him

[rose adder]

I got it a few weeks ago

[viral elbow]

I see

[limpid latch]

could have had someone with him

[median dragon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX-6800-Sealed-Never-Opened-In-Hand-Ships-Now/193756043720

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-Sealed-Never-Opened-In-Hand-Ships-Now-Overnight/193756030740

[rose adder]

ok maybe this is a hot take but people selling gpu's on ebay is no different from people buying supreme cloths early and reselling

[median dragon]

same seller.

[rose adder]

like it sucks for the end user but at the end of the day they can do whatever they want with the product they purchased

[limpid latch]

yea but he would have gone with a brother or something

[wary anvil]

2070 super you'll probably need to buy used. There's probably still some back stock being rolled out, but not much since the founderies for the dies stopped

[median dragon]

So they're siblings, excellent was anyone there.

[rose adder]

this is a luxury product, they are not hording toilet paper or cleaning supplies

[median dragon]

I need details on what they look like.

[night vault]

2070super is a great deal used

[limpid latch]

nothing on offerup or facebook marketplace yet

[rose adder]

2070 super is where it's at

[night vault]

If you can get under 380$ I’d say

[viral elbow]

I see, I’ve been reading you guys talking about the 2070s being better than 5700xt

[night vault]

5700xt if u can’t get for less than 380

It isn’t

But better used value

I live in a very populous area and not many 5700xt used listings

So I got my new

Many 2070supers though

Saw one go for 300$

[rose adder]

there will probably black friday sales to get rid of the old gpu inventory

[night vault]

FE but still

[viral elbow]

Me neither and I could only go EVGA b stock. For that

[rose adder]

I would set up a web alert for evga b stock

they sell out fast

but very good value

[lone pond]

so question

[viral elbow]

I’ve been just so tempted by this gigabyte rx5700xt too since it’s one “sale”

[exotic vine]

DAMN

[lone pond]

wait for the 3060 to come out or 2070s now

[viral elbow]

I would set up a web alert for evga b stock
Nice idea

[exotic vine]

ITS STILL COMING SON

[limpid latch]

note tho, any used, refurbished, open box, or bstock will not qualify for their stepup program.. for future reference

[night vault]

The three Dan one?

Fan*

[lone pond]

@lone pond 1440p
@fiery falcon yeah buy the 500$ 2080 ti

[rose adder]

I don't understand step up

[exotic vine]

WAIT WHERE ARE YOU GETTING A 500 2080TI

[night vault]

500$ 2080ti is a great price wtf

[rose adder]

when would you upgrade within 90 days

[potent rampart]

they mean 3070

dingus

lol

[rose adder]

I want to keep my hardware much longer than that

[night vault]

Oh

I get it

[potent rampart]

that's the meme

[night vault]

I’m dumb

[rose adder]

unless you buy it exclusively to step up

[potent rampart]

[limpid latch]

um like 3080ti you can upgrade most likely

[lone pond]

@potent rampart no i mean the 2080 ti

[exotic vine]

ok can we just talk abouthow bestbuy considers soon as 2 and a half hours

[lone pond]

they guy found a 500$ 2080 ti deal

idk where

but h e found one

[rose adder]

dang

[lone pond]

they're the same exact card except for RTX

so

[limpid latch]

there was a 400 kingpin 2080ti a month ago on ebay

[rose adder]

that's pretty gamer

[viral elbow]

Good for him tho

[fading shard]

Best Buy launch at all today?

[burnt parcel]

nope

im checking in 20 mins

[exotic vine]

is a rtx 2080 for 400 a good deal?

[worn torrent]

yes

actually idk

[viral elbow]

Lol

[worn torrent]

i thought u said 2080 ti for a sec

if its new then i think so

[exotic vine]

its barley used

[lone pond]

is a rtx 2080 for 400 a good deal?
@exotic vine yeah

very good deal

[burnt parcel]

barley

[exotic vine]

bruh did you take time out of your day to look up a pic of barley to make a joke

[lone pond]

if you want a NEW card i would recommend a 5700 xt

unless you wanna play on 1440p

[rose adder]

looks like a stock photo

[exotic vine]

i am playing on 1440p

[lone pond]

because then DLSS would increase the crap out of ur FPS

yeah buy the 2080

DLSS increases FPS so much

[rose adder]

DLSS is a big value add

like some people say it's "cheating" but at the end of the day it's something people actually use and it works pretty well

[exotic vine]

wait what is dlss

[burnt parcel]

is that on the 20 series?

[rose adder]

deep learning super sampling

[exotic vine]

sorry im not great with this stiff

[rose adder]

it upscales games that are rendered at lower resolution

[fringe mural]

yea i dont care if is cheating... i prefer the FPS

[exotic vine]

how would you set that up?

[rose adder]

it would be a setting in your game

on supported games and gpus

it increases fps a lot without that much loss in visual fidelity

[exotic vine]

is it in apex legends? i just want to run apex/cod 144+fps on comp or low settings at 1440p

[lone pond]

is that on the 20 series?
@burnt parcel yes 20 series and up

[night vault]

Uhh

Idk if a 2070s will do that

[exotic vine]

of course other stuff, but those are the main ones

[night vault]

Apex also likes cpu

From what I’ve seen

[rose adder]

ryzen 5000 time

[lone pond]

is it in apex legends? i just want to run apex/cod 144+fps on comp or low settings at 1440p
@exotic vine cold war or warzone

cold war i know for a fact has it

idk if warzone does

[night vault]

I don’t think a 2070s will allow for 144+fps at 1440p

Unless it supports dlss

[lone pond]

on cod and apex?

yes it will

[exotic vine]

i dont like warzone lmfao

[topaz furnace]

So the partners reference is exactly the same as amd themselves reference?

[exotic vine]

warzone is made for campers

[rose adder]

yep

idk why they bother letting partners sell reference designs

[exotic vine]

i have a ryzen 7 3700x

[topaz furnace]

Yea

[lone pond]

yeah apex doesn't have DLSS

3700x is fine

[night vault]

I would doubt it hits 1440p 144fps

I will look at benchmarks from reviewed

[lone pond]

on apex?

the 2080 hits like 120

max settings

80 is the lowest it gets on the hard to load areaas

most of the time like 100

EVERY single setting isn't gonna be max due to disadvantages so it probably will be hitting 144

@exotic vine so yeah for 400$ buy that 2080

[exotic vine]

im looking at a 3070 for 650 rn

[lone pond]

on cold war my friend with 2080 gets 100 FPS On 1440p with high and RTX on

[night vault]

400$ for a 2080 is a good deal

[rose adder]

^

[lone pond]

unless you're playing ONLY triple A games no point

card will still hold its value until you wanna upgrade

after you don't want it sell for like 300 boom

and the games coming out are gonna almost always support DLSS so expect to keep the same FPS you're getting now

[rose adder]

I can't wait for fall break when I can go home and actually build the computer with all the parts I purchased

[night vault]

@lone pond that’s a lie

Your buddies capping

2080SUPER gets 80fps average at 1440p ultra rtx on + DLSS

On Cold War

[exotic vine]

i just messaged a guy through facebook marketplace, maybe getting a 3070 for 650

its the lowest price ive seen

[night vault]

Gotta love scalpers

[exotic vine]

yup

but i need a gpu man

im sick of waiting

sick and tired and depressed

[night vault]

If it’s worth it to you I’d definetly get it, but if you can snag a used 2080ti for less it might be worth it

[rare tangle]

any word on best buy

[burnt parcel]

no

[rare tangle]

great

[exotic vine]

still "coming soon"

[lone pond]

2080SUPER gets 80fps average at 1440p ultra rtx on + DLSS
@night vault so do you realise where you typed ULTRA?

lmao

[night vault]

Yeah I also watched one on high

[rare tangle]

im gonna just buy a used 2080 ti or an rx 5700xt

[exotic vine]

this dude is selling a piece of paper with a 3070 on it for 500$ lmao

[night vault]

The 2080super high got 97 avg

On miami

Paired with a 9900k

[lone pond]

yet hes getting 100 fps

[exotic vine]

miami is garbage i wont be playing that map anyway

[night vault]

Doesn’t mean sub stained..

[lone pond]

was your video on the campaign or the multiplayer

[night vault]

Multiplayer

[lone pond]

lulw

pretty sure you're not gonna be using RTX on multiplayer

[night vault]

Why would a person play competetive singeplayer

[lone pond]

why would a person use rtx on multiplayer???

[night vault]

You told someone who was asking about multiplayer fps about your buddy who plays simfleplayee

Single player

[exotic vine]

bro people still be selling fe 2080tis for more than 700

like what

[topaz furnace]

2 min till maybe best buy has thme

[night vault]

So I assumed you where talking about multiplayer bc it was irrelevant if it was singeplayer

[lone pond]

he isn't gonna be using RTX on multiplayer?????

it was for reference

[night vault]

Obviously

It was a useless reference

[lone pond]

No

[night vault]

It was in a totally different game mode with totoally unrealistic settings

[lone pond]

hes likely still gonna wanna do a playthrough of singleplayer

[night vault]

Yeah but he said competitive swttings 💀

[lone pond]

do you have common sense

like at all

its not a useless reference

[night vault]

Obviously you don’t so I’m not going to argue with a caveman

[stable gorge]

best buy coming soon???

[exotic vine]

its still coming soon bois

f i nchat

f

[topaz furnace]

Best buy not yet

[exotic vine]

best buy is actually disappointing

like tbh

[stable gorge]

best buy workers are all asleep today

[exotic vine]

hahaha its not that

[lone pond]

@exotic vine when do you plan to upgrade after buying a gpu

[exotic vine]

at least 2 years

[lone pond]

2080

[exotic vine]

talking with certain people abt 3070 for 650$

is that good?

[lone pond]

No

thats 150$ on top of the MSRP

[hazy trout]

its worth w/e you want to pay for it

[exotic vine]

haha funny meme

ig ill pay for it

im just sick of waiting lmao

[lone pond]

welp

just got back from my 75 mile there and 75 mile back trip to microcenter

to get nothing :\

[exotic vine]

dang

best buy is still "coming soon"

[little slate]

yeah I don't think best buy got any stock like b&h

[rare tangle]

just picked up a 2080ti for $510

[fervent obsidian]

nice

[humble hemlock]

used?

[marsh charm]

I saw a video online that said probably the best AIB card for cooling and not crashing was the ASUS TUF?

True?

[ripe ivy]

I'm pretty sure they solved the crashing issues, it was a driver bug

[rare tangle]

yep used

[ripe ivy]

And to a certain extent boost clocks on AIB cards being too high

[marsh charm]

Yeah the 3080 doesn't have a ton of room to OC, these cards when they first came out were crashing at 2 GHz

[deft lake]

Dang my new pc no graphic card about 2 months

[lone pond]

$250 a good deal for a 5700 xt?

[marsh charm]

Where'd you find that listing

[burnt parcel]

good question

because yes

[lone pond]

craigslist lmao

[burnt parcel]

i think

[ripe ivy]

$250 is pretty good yeah

[marsh charm]

That's if it's real

[ripe ivy]

I guess be warry of its condition

[lone pond]

thats what I'm thinking

[ripe ivy]

Is it a reference model?

[plush portal]

hi, can someone recommend a video card that can run 4 monitors? Do I also need a display hub? Will AMD 5700 XT do the job? thanks

[lone pond]

it is an Asrock Phantom

[ripe ivy]

I mean sure it has 4 ports, 3 display port and 1 hdmi. It's capable of it

[marsh charm]

@plush portal

[plush portal]

Tks El Demonio

[torn scroll]

:))

[topaz furnace]

Next hour best buy?

What you guys think

[marsh charm]

Maybe.

Been rethinking the 6800XT after I saw some online benchmarks

[plush portal]

I thought 6800s are all out of stock?

[exotic vine]

they havent dropped on best buy yet

[marsh charm]

They are, Best Buy hasn't released yet though

[exotic vine]

they havent sold any

we dont kn ow if best buy even has any

[marsh charm]

Might be like B&H

[lone pond]

What’s a decent GPU that goes well with Ryzen 3 2200G? I was think about a GT 710 since it has really good reviews on Amazon

[ripe ivy]

Listing them with no stock though?

[exotic vine]

im not sure

that def wouldnt make sense but what are they waiting for yk?

[topaz furnace]

The rtx 3080 doesn't have a big enough lead to justify waiting for it to go back in stock over the 6800xt, if it goes in stock on best buy and its available to you before either 3080 you should get it and vice versa tbh

This what bitwit said

[lone pond]

@lone pond I started out with the rx460 and it did great. It all depends on what your looking to get

[deft lake]

Hey everyone can for me review about this card GIGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX 5700 XT DirectX 12 GV-R57XTAORUS-8GD rev. 2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card

[plush portal]

my big bro wants me to build him a 4+ monitor trading PC

he wanted to buy from Dell and I said HELL NO

[exotic vine]

especialy after the recent ltt series lmfao

[ripe ivy]

I've only seen reviews of the Gigabyte Gaming OC, which is pretty decent I assume Aorus is marginally better?

[limpid latch]

aorus master has display on cooler shows stats, and also bigger cooler

gaming oc has a good power oc to it

[opaque stratus]

is the premiun brand of Gigabyte, supposedly have better cooling, look nicer, and it's better for oc

[limpid latch]

aorus master and up have higher starting oc

aorus master is last 2x8pin

[fluid star]

calm down

[limpid latch]

they have extreme aorus as well and hybrid/waterblock ones coming

[muted isle]

The rtx 3080 doesn't have a big enough lead to justify waiting for it to go back in stock over the 6800xt, if it goes in stock on best buy and its available to you before either 3080 you should get it and vice versa tbh
@topaz furnace The sad part is that even the 3080 has a bigger stock than RX 6000 by this point

Another paper launch, great

[viral elbow]

lol and i still can;t get either

[lone pond]

@topaz furnace The sad part is that even the 3080 has a bigger stock than RX 6000 by this point
@muted isle its because its been out longer?

[topaz furnace]

@topaz furnace The sad part is that even the 3080 has a bigger stock than RX 6000 by this point
@muted isle
Well yea bc they been out since September

YeA

[potent rampart]

AMD cards arent gonna help nvidia card stock either

Nvidia definitely still the better purchase

[ripe ivy]

Even though they've been out since September, the stock is still super thin. If the same applies to AMD by January then we can definitively say they're about as bad if not worse

[topaz furnace]

Yepp

Dude these are multi billion dollar company's howww can they not handle this

[untold veldt]

no matter what it was gonna get sold out quick but i think them being sold out in less than a min is ridiculous

[topaz furnace]

Yes, very

But keeping up with stock and demand shouldn't be too hard

[rare tangle]

let's hope that best buy starts selling at 12 cst

[ripe ivy]

They just need to meet 10% demand by the end of the month

[topaz furnace]

1 min for best buy Maybee

[viral elbow]

just gonna pull the trigger to buy old parts for my sanity, I've been waiting long enough

[marsh charm]

At this point, people are getting their hands on anything that they can get and AMD has to be making cards for the new consoles. The amount of money NVIDIA could pull in right now just by dropping production on other cards to make the 3000 series for a little bit would be crazy

[lone pond]

i heard somebody said their buddy contacted customer service and it wasn't available until the 27th (rx cards)

[fierce hawk]

They’re all sourcing their constituent silicon from the same factory.

[viral elbow]

companies will always have something to blame so their stocks don't dip

[lone pond]

Covid barely affects taiwan they have no reason to blame it

[topaz furnace]

No best buy?

[untold veldt]

not for me

[viral elbow]

exactly

[topaz furnace]

Lol

[viral elbow]

whatever I'll get the 3080 2 years later

[lone pond]

nvidia stock after admitting they only originallymade 20 3070's to sell
📉
@lone pond i've seen like a hundred shipments of 3070's across amazon asus and best buy over the past week

[viral elbow]

[lone pond]

each one is probably about 100 3070s

thats not "only"

when it comes in 2-3 shipments it usually lasts 5-10 minutes

[muted isle]

Even though they've been out since September, the stock is still super thin. If the same applies to AMD by January then we can definitively say they're about as bad if not worse
@ripe ivy yes, the RTX 3070 stock and 3090 stock has been solved here in Brazil, but still little stock for the 3080

[topaz furnace]

And it doesn't matter if you get the msi or xfx reference, right. Even though they are distributed by different partners the reference is the same?

[lone pond]

@ripe ivy yes, the RTX 3070 stock and 3090 stock has been solved here in Brazil, but still little stock for the 3080
@muted isle so does it stay in stock

[viral elbow]

that's really quick in Brazil

[lone pond]

yeah 3080 is expected

no where near as much 3070 production

[ripe ivy]

I think they're saving their 102 silicon for 3090s and 3080Tis

[stable gorge]

I messaged best buy guy and they have no idea when cards are going to be available online

[worn torrent]

when is the 6800 coming out on best buy

i thought rn

[topaz furnace]

And it doesn't matter if you get the msi or xfx reference, right. Even though they are distributed by different partners the reference is the same?

[worn torrent]

oh

[lone pond]

I think they're saving their 102 silicon for 3090s and 3080Tis
@ripe ivy i had a stroke reading the original sentence

[worn torrent]

i looked and the msi clock is faster?

[ripe ivy]

So did I

[topaz furnace]

No not the aib

[muted isle]

@muted isle so does it stay in stock
@lone pond here yes all hardware shops have them in stock

[topaz furnace]

Bc msi and xfx on best buy are selling the reference model

[worn torrent]

ive been sitting here refreshing for the past 4 hours

ever since 6 am

holy sht

[topaz furnace]

Lol

[ripe ivy]

How many cards are we talking though?

[topaz furnace]

At 6am I tried getting one but nopee

[ripe ivy]

Like do they have dozens?

[worn torrent]

i reallllly wanted a 6800 after i messed up on the 3070

the order canceled before shipping to to issues on my enx

end

rip

[lone pond]

@lone pond here yes all hardware shops have them in stock
@muted isle so i convince somebody in brazil to buy 3070 for me and ship it here

ez

[muted isle]

lmao I wouldnt recommend that

[worn torrent]

when brazil has more stock than us lol

[muted isle]

prices in Brazil are higher by default

[lone pond]

RX 6000 series past 1080p ResidentSleeper

[small sphinx]

REEEEEEEE

[limpid latch]

well first amd card i see on offerup guy posted 6800 for 850

[muted isle]

because we have to pay the imports tariff which is 60% of the product's price

[worn torrent]

its been like yhat

did it come out just now?

[lone pond]

REEEEEEEE
@small sphinx well yeah its the FE

[limpid latch]

must have gotten it from microcenter and didnt get a xt, prob was way low stock

[worn torrent]

wait did it come out again?

[muted isle]

when brazil has more stock than us lol
@worn torrent over there you guys dont have RTX 3070 or 3090 in stock?

[worn torrent]

just now?

[lone pond]

at best buy the GIGABYTE 3070 Gaming OC is the best choice for you

[topaz furnace]

Where

[lone pond]

@worn torrent over there you guys dont have RTX 3070 or 3090 in stock?
@muted isle 3090 lasts a considerable amount of time but the 3070

nope

[worn torrent]

3070 reztock on best buy just now?

[lone pond]

3070 reztock on best buy just now?
@worn torrent No

[worn torrent]

wait what no

oh ok

[muted isle]

I'm not kidding even the small hardware shop in my town is getting 4 RTX 3070 next week

[worn torrent]

thank god

[muted isle]

and I live in a 70k people town

[worn torrent]

the only one

?

[lone pond]

i have an auto-notify for every 6000 series card, 30 series and the 5000 series CPUs

so i would know

[topaz furnace]

Amd?

[worn torrent]

lol

[topaz furnace]

Or where?

What website did u set that up in?

[muted isle]

@muted isle 3090 lasts a considerable amount of time but the 3070
@lone pond oof I guess much more people want to buy them over there

[small sphinx]

uptimerobot.com

[lone pond]

i didn't set it up but its set up for asus best buy amazon newegg Microcenter and BHphotovideo

and i don't use uptime

cringe

[exotic vine]

well what do you use

can you have a text noti set up?

[muted isle]

I'm just waiting for more stock for the RTX 3080 over here so I can grab one

[lone pond]

no its a discord i don't think im allowed to share it since its a referral thing

[exotic vine]

oh

well

[lone pond]

it also sells a newegg auto buy bot too so

[exotic vine]

"coming soon"

il be gone for a bit

someone vc noti me if best buy comes out finally

[lone pond]

yeah i haven't seen a 3070 FE go in stock at like any website in like a week

best bet is the gigabyte 3070 gaming oc like i said

[topaz furnace]

@lone pond where did you set up the auto notifications when available?

[lone pond]

I didn't

read

[topaz furnace]

Oh

Well everyone who missed the initial release is relying on best buy rn

[lone pond]

Don't

[muted isle]

But didn't they cease production of the founder edition cards?

[deft lake]

what is the best custom for rx 5700xt?

[topaz furnace]

Why

[lone pond]

amazon and newegg is your best bet

[topaz furnace]

Why?

[lone pond]

best buy only ever gets PS5 stock right now

[topaz furnace]

No bedt buy still hasn't released them

Best*

Still says "Coming Soon"

[lone pond]

RX cards?

[topaz furnace]

Yep

6000

[lone pond]

last i heard they're not getting in stock at best buy until the 27th

and its gonna be like the 30 series

they're gonna order some one time

then go back to only PS5s

[topaz furnace]

Where did you get that from?

[lone pond]

a guy contacted customer service in the notification discord and thats what they told him

[topaz furnace]

Newegg out of stock, Amazon idek

[lone pond]

might not be accurate

[topaz furnace]

Ohh

When do you think newegg will get them?

[lone pond]

the second they get stock afaik

[topaz furnace]

Yea, stupid bots

[lone pond]

just buy on mobile with Apple pay

gives you an equal chance against them

[stark hatch]

does anyone know if the radeon 5600xt causes a blue screen bc i built a pc and periodically it bluescreens but doesn't break my computer

[burnt parcel]

guys i did a bad

[worn torrent]

wait so no rx 6000 on best buy for today?

@lone pond

best buy

[lone pond]

best buy or amazon

best buy afaik No

[worn torrent]

whaat

[daring tusk]

amazon had but it went out of stock in seconds

[topaz furnace]

Best buy

[worn torrent]

wait so it is or it isnt

fosho

i just needa know if it comes out today

or another day

[topaz furnace]

Yes today, I spoke with the best buy support chat thingy

[worn torrent]

ok

cause ive been sitting here since 6 am refreshing

so imma be mad

if it doesnt

[topaz furnace]

Lol

[burnt parcel]

i got this crap

[urban elbow]

is it worth upgrading gpu from 1060 6gb to a 3070 when i have an i5 8600k cpu?

[viral elbow]

bottlenecking

not saying it will for certain but there is a possibility

[lone pond]

like i said

its inaccurate

[urban elbow]

i do have an 2560*1440 display that why i am thinking about it

not quite 4 k but

[dawn plover]

@urban elbow its nice if you're staying with 1440

[viral elbow]

3070 can't really do 4k tbh

[dawn plover]

not a crap ton of bottlenceck tbh

[lone pond]

it was designed to be 1080p-1440p card

3080 and 3090 are 1440p cards

8600k would have like a 10% bottleneck with a 3070

on 1080p

but yeah @urban elbow

what hz 1440

[dawn plover]

i mean a 3070 could play in 4k with playable frames

[urban elbow]

i am waiting until they are in stock to make a decission but not sure if it would be worth

[weary flax]

3090 is a 4k card

[urban elbow]

144 hz display

[lone pond]

3090 is a 4k card
@weary flax No

[dawn plover]

it jus depends what game you play and the detail lin it

lmao a 3090 could let you play comfortably in 8k

[urban elbow]

and i do prefer to play on higher settings not just max fps settings

[weary flax]

we're talking about ray tracing tho

and max settings

[dawn plover]

it still gives you playable frames

[lone pond]

thats like 60-90 FPS depending on the game

[exotic vine]

wait, so the 6800 does come out on best buy today?

[lone pond]

not 8k

thats like 20-30 fps

wait, so the 6800 does come out on best buy today?
@exotic vine nobody knows

the customer service is inaccurate

[exotic vine]

great

[lone pond]

they giving yes/no answers

and i do prefer to play on higher settings not just max fps settings
@urban elbow 3070 would be a good choice

[mortal snow]

when have you known CS to know anything?

[urban elbow]

@urban elbow 3070 would be a good choice
@lone pond that what i was thinking but just wanted to get some advice cause all the info online not really clear

[golden scaffold]

y'all have any links to the 6800?

[lone pond]

3080 would be a better option if you wanted a FPS closer to 144 but the bottleneck would probably be actually noticeable at that point

[exotic vine]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-radeon-rx-6800-16g-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black-black/6441020.p?skuId=6441020

[golden scaffold]

ur the man

[urban elbow]

should i wait on 3060 drop to make a decission?

[exotic vine]

thanx

[dawn plover]

thats like 20-30 fps
@lone pond bruh i saw a vid of sum guy playing doom with balls to the walls settings in 8k and was getting avg 60

[lone pond]

Thats doom bro

Doom

[dawn plover]

yes doom

[golden scaffold]

doom is the best optimized

[muted isle]

should i wait on 3060 drop to make a decission?
@urban elbow your call, prices wont change by now

[lone pond]

its not hard to run

[golden scaffold]

game out there

[dawn plover]

it depends what game you play as well

[urban elbow]

where u getting a 8k screen bruh

[muted isle]

where u getting a 8k screen bruh
@urban elbow 30k TVs

[urban elbow]

if u can afford an 8k screen u can afford a 3090 no?

[lone pond]

@urban elbow my guess it would be like 2080 super performance so if you mainly played games with DLSS would still be a good option

not an 8k screen

8k TV would be your best bet

[muted isle]

but those TVs are priced at least at 10k dollars

[lone pond]

so are the monitors lol

[urban elbow]

that's what i thought

[topaz furnace]

14 min till best buy maybe releases

[muted isle]

when the TV is FIVE times the cost of your PC

[topaz furnace]

Lol

[lone pond]

atleast you can still watch TV comfortably on it lol

[muted isle]

true lol

[lone pond]

i ain't moving my 8k monitor everytime i go in bed

[dawn plover]

eh i wouldn't even think of getting either cuz where's the real benefit

[granite hawk]

so

i have changed my mind and nnow am wanting a 3080

:D

[dawn plover]

sweet

[granite hawk]

thank

now i just gotta hope they restock

[dawn plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVGL7aAYgY&t=407s <-- theres that video if you're still doubting yourself

[analog hawk]

does nvidia also plan on utilizing SAM software and will it be in the near future?

[burnt parcel]

they are making something like it yes

[analog hawk]

cause i know SAM doesnt really make a huge difference in MOST games but sometimes it puts amd over the edge of nvidia

[lone pond]

do what have any eta on bestbuy, other than "soon" yet?

[burnt parcel]

just check every hour

so in 5 minutes

[analog hawk]

man idk anymore i was kinda sure of the 3080 but some of the 6800xt benchmarks look good they trade blows

[burnt parcel]

it just depends on what you play

and what resolution

amd kills 1080 and 1440

and does pretty good at 4k

but if you want raytracing then go nvidia

[lone pond]

whats the point in 1440p if u dont use rtxs

rtx

cringe

[dawn plover]

cringe

[analog hawk]

well i wanna play triple a games at 4k and esports titles/fps at 1440p another thing im considering is software

[burnt parcel]

Bruh still no best buy

[dawn plover]

thx for letting us know

[quiet oxide]

Best buy only has AIB cards which aren't launching today

[burnt parcel]

They are reference cards

Sold by aib

It just reference cards in their special boxes

[lone pond]

well i wanna play triple a games at 4k and esports titles/fps at 1440p another thing im considering is software
@analog hawk Nvidia

especially if you use RTX

DLSS is a huge thing for you too

[exotic vine]

"coming soon"

[analog hawk]

yeah

[fathom bear]

How was the amd experience today?

[analog hawk]

and if im playing esports titles/fps like cod and valorant at 1440P i probably wont have problems at that resolution

[limpid latch]

and streaming

[fathom bear]

Anyone get a card?

[burnt parcel]

Like 2 people

It was terrible

[analog hawk]

yeah

[burnt parcel]

Sold out before it even said it was in stock

[analog hawk]

its only gonna get worst i believe cause of miners

[fathom bear]

They said they would continuously trickle in

[limpid latch]

and 2 cards are on offerup so far

[fringe mural]

the fail on amd was the stock... all they have to do was keep a big stock (maybe not easy task in this times) but well... now people start considering 3000 series...

[limpid latch]

they had more time to do so as well but failed at stock hah

[lone pond]

and if im playing esports titles/fps like cod and valorant at 1440P i probably wont have problems at that resolution
@analog hawk COD maybe but valorant you'll be fine

i get like 160 FPS On a 1060 at 1440p

[dawn plover]

im honestly fine with people buying cards, as long as they use them to game/mine, not stupid scalpers that sell them for stupid prices

[analog hawk]

well the target fps is just 144

[lone pond]

on val

[fathom bear]

Honestly intel could come out with a 3080 competitor (as incredibly impossible that is) and they would still sell out

[analog hawk]

for vod

cod

[raven fog]

nah screw amd and nvidia gpus it's all about that intel gpu

[dawn plover]

lmao

[fathom bear]

Intel gpu is more for laptops anyway

[raven fog]

lol yeah

[analog hawk]

INTEL GPU

why is pogu green oh god

[lone pond]

Intel won't have good desktop GPUs until a couple generations in

unless they have been developing it for an unusual amount of time

[analog hawk]

i cant wait to play on some INTEL RAYTRACING

[fringe mural]

yea maybe in 5 years... will be a thing

[granite hawk]

wuhan we have like the same purposes

lol

[analog hawk]

lmao

[granite hawk]

im getting the 3080 when it's restocked

[analog hawk]

yeah thats my play tbh

[granite hawk]

cause it should give me like 144 fps and 1440p

[analog hawk]

what monitor you getting?

[granite hawk]

144 hz 1440p

i can get the lin one sec

[analog hawk]

im planning on the 950 and then just decreasing the res to 1440p when i play an fps

or like league or something

[hollow zephyr]

league lmao

[fringe mural]

bye amd... now im switching to rog strix 3080 (when available )

[lone pond]

you would get like 1500 fps on league lol

[analog hawk]

1500? thats an understatement

[lone pond]

its 1440p so

like 6k on 1080p

[analog hawk]

you can run that game on anything in the past 10 years

[lone pond]

i barely get like 150 on my 1060

on 1440

[analog hawk]

you can run it on an overclocked potato

and have a good experience

[lone pond]

it still won't reach unrealistic frames

it gets limited at a certain point

[granite hawk]

probs this one @analog hawk https://www.pixiogaming.com/px277-prime

[analog hawk]

thats like an engine limit right

[granite hawk]

as my main

[lone pond]

idk

[analog hawk]

i think my friend has that monitor

[lone pond]

probs this one @analog hawk https://www.pixiogaming.com/px277-prime
@granite hawk Buy the Acer nitro one with the IPS and freesync

its whati bought

its a hell of a deal when its on sale

[granite hawk]

is it 2k 165hz?

[lone pond]

144

[granite hawk]

oo

[lone pond]

i've literally never heard of pixio so

[granite hawk]

btw is 5ms response time ok if ur using it for like art and stuff

[analog hawk]

ms doesnt matter for art i think

response times dont for the most part right

like for art that is

[lone pond]

1ms vs 5ms is like nothing

[granite hawk]

k

[raven fog]

what i have learned from the past is that VA panels are garbage. they are more prone to break when tapping or touching the screen and the response time is doodoo

[lone pond]

unless ur ping was at a constant 5 ms

[granite hawk]

i was thinking of getting a 4k side monitor

[hollow heath]

The new Radeon cards are disappointing

[granite hawk]

they are

[lone pond]

i thought IPS monitors were fragile but i test punched it for some reason and it was sturdier than my TN

[fiery falcon]

Get yourself a 5ms IPS monitor

[granite hawk]

LOL

[raven fog]

i thought IPS monitors were fragile but i test punched it for some reason and it was sturdier than my TN
@lone pond yes exactly

[granite hawk]

@fiery falcon yeah for the 4k one?

[analog hawk]

i was just gonna get one 4k 144hz and then decrease res since i have a 1080p side one

[burnt parcel]

the radeon cards brought exactly what they said they would

nothing more

[granite hawk]

i found a $200 4k 5 ms ips monitor

[raven fog]

u could literally drill a hole in ips panels and they still look fine (jk)

[analog hawk]

also WHY

i thought IPS monitors were fragile but i test punched it for some reason and it was sturdier than my TN
@lone pond

[lone pond]

idk

[analog hawk]

LMAO

[granite hawk]

noice

[fiery falcon]

@granite hawk refresh rate?

[lone pond]

i also rubbed the pins on a cpu and even licked it

people really too scared of bending pins

[granite hawk]

@fiery falcon 5ms

[analog hawk]

WHY

[lone pond]

didn't even bend them

[hazy glacier]

Hm.

[analog hawk]

BUT WHY

[lone pond]

idk

[hazy glacier]

Mm

[granite hawk]

mando

u need to not

LMAO

[hazy glacier]

Licking the CPU

Hot

[analog hawk]

this is gonna be turend into a meme now

[hazy glacier]

Yes

[granite hawk]

hold up

[raven fog]

lol

[toxic quartz]

does a gt710 run fork knife

[hazy glacier]

It runs DOOM

Superior

[granite hawk]

u guys know any g-sync 1440p 144hz monitors? @lone pond

[lone pond]

idk

[granite hawk]

one that isn't 400$

[analog hawk]

asus vg27aq i think is gsync

oh

nvm

LMAO

[dusk oasis]

do you recommend me buy the Acer XF250Q 240hz ?? it is 269.99

[remote cargo]

is 3070 ti a rumor or confirmed?

[ripe ivy]

Um it's been rumored that there will be a 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti, the latter which is allegedly launching in January so the 3070 Ti might shortly follow?

[muted isle]

I would guess next week they would be announced by Nvidia

And launched perhaps mid to end of December?

[remote cargo]

I’m just wishing that I can get an nvidia card for $600 that’s between 3070 and 3080

cuz I really want the ray tracing performance

[muted isle]

well AMD's launch played right into Nvidia's interest

so I don't know if they would be quite generous with the pricing

the 3060 ti may be out for sale for 600 dollars

3070 ti*

but I think the 3080 ti would be 800 dollars perhaps?

[remote cargo]

most likely

[raven fog]

but I think the 3080 ti would be 800 dollars perhaps?
@muted isle 900

[muted isle]

@muted isle 900
@raven fog that sounds more like Nvidia true

unless the RX 6900XT is truly as good as they said

[ripe ivy]

I don't see why it wouldn't be 999 or more

[muted isle]

but after seeing how it turned out for the others, I'm doubting that as well

[raven fog]

bruh the 6800xt stands no chance against the 3080 cause the 3080 got dlss and 2nd gen ray tracing

im just saying

[muted isle]

The benchmarks showed that

[raven fog]

yup

[muted isle]

that's why the hype disappointed yet another AMD launch

[raven fog]

so ig the amd gpu sucks

lol

[remote cargo]

yesn’t

[raven fog]

correct

[gilded hawk]

3080 wont last as long though

[ripe ivy]

It doesn't suck, but it is lacking for the time being

[raven fog]

3080 wont last as long though
@gilded hawk wdym

[gilded hawk]

only 10gb of vram on 3080

card will last for 3 years max

[muted isle]

It doesn't suck, but it is lacking for the time being :phaSheva:
@ripe ivy it is much more competitive than say the 5700XT true

[raven fog]

yeh but who needs more than 8 gb

[gilded hawk]

4k gamers

max settings

[remote cargo]

nvidia is just has better features that outweighs and right now

[rigid crag]

card will last for 3 years max
@gilded hawk doubt lol

[raven fog]

yes but u got ur handy dandy regular ram

[ripe ivy]

Which is far slower than Vram

[rigid crag]

Obviously it won't be the best in three years like it is now but thats to be expected

[raven fog]

Which is far slower than Vram
@ripe ivy true true

bruh im still waiting for the 3080 to be on stock

what a loser i am

[remote cargo]

I’m waiting for 3070

[ripe ivy]

Are you in desperate need of better performance?

[raven fog]

yes

i have a 780

ti

[muted isle]

Wait 2 or 3 months lads

[remote cargo]

so I’m most likely gonna try and see if there will be a 3070 ti

[muted isle]

then there should be plenty of stock for those cards

at much better prices

[twin sigil]

Yeah January's going to be huge.

[raven fog]

then there should be plenty of stock for those cards
@muted isle yup i have hopes

[muted isle]

Right now you'll only be able to buy RX 6000 and RTX 3000 at overpriced values since there's no stock

[raven fog]

it's so funny cause in order to get the scalping bots u need a scalp bot urself to get one cause they be high in demand

[ripe ivy]

780 Kepler didn't age well

[twin sigil]

I did manage to grab a 3080 combo deal mainly because I saw an instock alert within 17 seconds...

[raven fog]

I did manage to grab a 3080 combo deal mainly because I saw an instock alert within 17 seconds...
@twin sigil what combo deal and from where?

like the gpu and psu combo?

in newegg

[twin sigil]

From Newegg. Got a Gigabyte 3080 and a 850w PSU

[raven fog]

yeh

[twin sigil]

Didn't need the PSU but oh well.

[raven fog]

sell it then

get ur "money back"

[twin sigil]

I'm just keeping it as a spare.

[muted isle]

But what I truly wasn't expecting from AMD was low stock of Ryzen 5000 processors

You can't find anything other than Ryzen 5 5600X on stores

No Ryzen 9 5900X

[raven fog]

But what I truly wasn't expecting from AMD was low stock of Ryzen 5000 processors
@muted isle it wasn't really "high in demand" compared to the gpus so a lot of people were able to get them

[muted isle]

Ryzen 7 5800X

But there's no stock of them otherwise I would be able to buy them

[twin sigil]

Not that the 5800x gives you notably better performance vs the 5600x

[muted isle]

Multi-core there's a difference

a noticeable one

[twin sigil]

Yeah but for gaming that's like 5%

[raven fog]

yep

[muted isle]

I am aware, but I'm not building a PC for gaming

Engineering softwares

[raven fog]

ahh that's cool

[umbral patio]

hey guys

[twin sigil]

Oh, you're doing those other things a PC is used for

[umbral patio]

i have a question

[muted isle]

I'll game on the PC of course

[umbral patio]

is a 1660 super worth it?

[muted isle]

but the focus is work

[umbral patio]

or should i go for ray tracing

[raven fog]

but the focus is work
@muted isle that's good mentality

[twin sigil]

I'd hold off on a 1660 Super. A 3060's going to be better than a 2080

Most likely

[hollow heath]

Soo 3070 > RX 6800?

[umbral patio]

okay

thx

[ripe ivy]

Yeah it'll be around 2080 performance I would say

[lone pond]

Soo 3070 > RX 6800?
@hollow heath Depends

[hollow heath]

The 3070 is faster

And cheaper

[raven fog]

yup

cause of dlss

[hollow heath]

And better in workloads

[raven fog]

amd tried so hard to make it seem like the gpu is better but it's trash compared to the 3k series

im just saying

[lone pond]

It is better on normal benchmarks

[hollow heath]

I'm disappointed I really thought Radeon would "demolish" Nvidia like everyone said

[uneven portal]

???

[ripe ivy]

Calling it trash is a huge stretch

[lone pond]

nvidia just has had a longer time to develop stuff

2nd gen tensor cores etc

AMDs stuff is first gen

[raven fog]

It is better on normal benchmarks
@lone pond yes that's true but u ain't getting these gpus to open chrome. u get them to play intensive games

[hollow heath]

Well that's AMD's fault tho

[twin sigil]

For Raytracing stuff, sure

[lone pond]

@lone pond yes that's true but u ain't getting these gpus to open chrome. u get them to play intensive games
@raven fog not every game has RTX and DLSS

[uneven portal]

Plebs think upscaling better than native ofc

[twin sigil]

For just rasterization, AMD is very competitive.

[raven fog]

yeh true but the performance difference is not there

[twin sigil]

Which is also the majority of games.

[ripe ivy]

What's their fault? Should they have worked on raytracing acceleration for last year on the 5700?

[raven fog]

although if u have an amd cpu then the amd gpu will work well together

i think

[ripe ivy]

Well that's what SAM is about, but yet again that's marketing to sell the two together

[twin sigil]

More that nobody's had to develop games for raytracing outside of Nvidia's implimentation so far

[uneven portal]

That's about to change in a big way

[raven fog]

anyways i think the 3080 is still better in performance and price

[ripe ivy]

It does need time to mature

[uneven portal]

How can you think it's better in price when the 6800xt is litterally 50$ cheaper? It can be measured in dollars

[ripe ivy]

Waving it off because it's not great now is rather short sighted

[fossil talon]

Couldn't get AMD so kept with the 3070FE

[raven fog]

oh damn nice

[twin sigil]

Well $100 cheaper since you can't get a MSRP 3080 at all.

[ripe ivy]

Can't get either for any amount of money anyway

[raven fog]

the 3070 is pretty good (i just think the 3070 is a literal 2080 ti but way cheaper)

[ripe ivy]

At least not reliably