Yeah that's trolls
#graphics-cards
ripe ivy
vivid pond
Best buy come out at 10 or 11 Eastern time or Pacific @rare tangle
hazy trout
i also didnt get a confirmation e-mail but they did charge my CC already
ripe ivy
They're bidding massive ammounts to mess with the people reselling
raven fog
yep
crisp girder
AMD site sold out
thick skiff
anything from best buy?
paper echo
Smh
lone pond
is that est?
marsh charm
Doubt it
runic bolt
i thought those cards were next week
thick skiff
source?
marsh charm
Best Buy probably has like 10 cards
zinc wraith
2*
thick skiff
those are aib cards
viral elbow
Lol yea that’s being optimistic
runic bolt
yea those dont drop til next week right
hearty osprey
i think imanaged to grab a 6800
thick skiff
yeah
crisp girder
guess spending 750 on a 3070
ripe ivy
No AIB cards yet
crisp girder
tired of waiting
topaz furnace
amd website no crash on phone
thick skiff
but reference cards are rn
burnt parcel
those are reference cards sold by aib's
stiff jackal
So partner cards drop next week then?
sterile nova
6000 series already out?
hazy trout
i have both LOL
lone pond
this launch was insulting
thick skiff
but no
topaz furnace
i wanted the reference tho bc I dont wanna pay more for an aib
ripe ivy
This isn't surprising though
sterile nova
damn i didnt get a chance to buy one
granite hawk
good
sinful crater
They already sell out?
granite hawk
u would have been heart broken
static fossil
damn i really got to my payment info just to get into an access denied screen
lone pond
at least we had some sort of chance when the 3070 was hitting
vivid pond
@hazy trout want to sell to me lmao
ripe ivy
Best Buy still don't have them available yet
hazy glacier
Hm.
ripe ivy
So it isn't over right? 
granite hawk
lmao
mighty lion
imma wait on bestbuy
granite hawk
i just want an apolgy
hazy glacier
Reference 😔
granite hawk
from newegg
topaz furnace
same
burnt parcel
LIKE I SAID
daring tusk
bestbuy better come in clutch with that 5 stock
marsh charm
“Nice guys always finish last should’ve known that”
granite hawk
they rlly came here giving us false hope
burnt parcel
THE ONES ON NEWEGG AND BESTBUY ARE REFERENCE CARDS SOLD BY AIB
thick skiff
isnt the xfx the reference
daring tusk
that makes sense
topaz furnace
why are partners saying its theirs put shows a pic of reference
fringe mural
People are bulling scalpers on ebay.. hjahahahhahaa. overbidding on the 6800xt is over $50,000... they will not pay then.
quaint adder
they are all reference cards that went on sale today
daring tusk
^^^
ripe ivy
The partners sell the reference model
pure stump
my wife just said " you cant even pretend to want it, because it's never even here, no proof it exists"
burnt parcel
YES
ripe ivy
This is nothing new regarding AMD
topaz furnace
even if they say reference
lone pond
yeah they still say "coming soon" on bestbuy
daring tusk
@pure stump why do you hurt us in this way
crisp girder
newegg sold out instantly
daring tusk
yeah
granite hawk
newegg didn't even load
eternal locust
All these sites must be makin so much money
ripe ivy
Yes it's all reference
crisp girder
i saw 7 different cards on new egg
eternal locust
AMD and Nvidia swimming in the money rn
crisp girder
then boom all sold out..
daring tusk
i had one in my cart on amazon for like a whole minute but it wouldnt let me check out
deft lake
no hope
grizzled glen
im banned off bestbuy ;-;
burnt parcel
WHAT
night vault
y
eternal locust
@daring tusk then it disapeared from your cart i bet
grizzled glen
"access denied" 😦
granite hawk
gone
hoary forge
newegg seems to be keep adding new models and SKUs for them
daring tusk
same
warm mesa
i got 503'd in checkout ::(
granite hawk
^
night vault
You using a VPN?
eternal locust
another shopper has yoinked the card from you
topaz furnace
yea swimming the money and forgetting to make what made them the money
deft lake
i got in cart 2 times but cant check out
grizzled glen
no lmao
crisp girder
theyll be in all the prebuilts later today haha
viral elbow
raven fog
lol bestbuy still says coming soon
little slate
did amazon US ever even show any cards?
burnt parcel
check bestbuy at 10
crisp girder
no
burnt parcel
no @little slate
grizzled glen
turbo whats the bestbuy link?
night vault
I just realized that they had to provide the gpus for all the ps5s and xboxes
little slate
B&H website straight up had a notice posted that they haven't actually gotten any cards yet, so they're not going to let people pre-order until they have some in stock
night vault
Do not only are they having to sell their cards, but have their silicon in all the ps5 and xboxes
grizzled glen
yikes
pure stump
LOL AMD took al of the cards and the NEW cpus down
daring tusk
oof
topaz furnace
it shows that for the amd site
night vault
Maybe preparing for a restock ? :)
daring tusk
no lol
marsh charm
You already know I’m gonna bully every PS5 and XBox kid until I can get my card
hazy trout
getting the card was 10x easier then trying to get a ps5
night vault
You’re just jealous they have big navi:))
fierce hawk
Just being honest, after watching a few reviews, the 3080 is a way better buy. Especially once Nvidia does a software update to allow base register access (SAM).
vivid pond
Lmao
daring tusk
just bu ya ps5 or xbox and take the gpu out duh
marsh charm
LMAO
hexed belfry
@daring tusk yessss
daring tusk
wait wherr
night vault
But is that useful for people who are gaming?
grizzled glen
how do I get unbanned from bestbuy? lol
lone pond
yeah hats off to b&h for actually being honest about their stock
burnt parcel
its gone on amd
kind dragon
will happen in like 1 hr
night vault
I doubt you’re banned wdym rando
runic bolt
for some reason
vivid pond
Sent a guy and offer that was 649 when he had it up on 2,299
runic bolt
im legit at place order
topaz furnace
i dont wanna buy a reference model from partners
runic bolt
with capcha
topaz furnace
where?
hearty osprey
lol
runic bolt
i cry
lone pond
everyone else is just putting their listings up without anything to actually ship
runic bolt
yoinked
fierce hawk
It's the 6800 not the 6800XT -- that's why I didn't do mine.
topaz furnace
I just wanted a graphics card
vivid pond
^^
static fossil
^^
lone pond
honestly tempted to just wait til spring
topaz furnace
probs when they back in stock
raven fog
bruh bestbuy be cappin. i be on that page since 6:13 and they still got the "coming soon" nonsense
viral elbow
Dude just get a 5700xt I guess idk
little slate
I apparently had a 6800 in my cart on AMD website, good thing that it never let me actually see my card and check out
lone pond
looks like best buy's taking an extra hour to roll out
little slate
now I've got a notice
runic bolt
BEST BUY IS DROPPING AIBS U KEKS
shadow barn
Buying a used gpu what are the most things i need to look for
granite hawk
AND YOINK
runic bolt
THATS NEXT WEEK
warm mesa
same justins
marsh charm
These $500 60FPS machines legit took all of our silicon
topaz furnace
maybe ill get an aib but was looking to only spend $650 and dont wanna pay $50-$80 extra (come out next week)
little slate
static fossil
@granite hawk exactly what happened to me
raven fog
welp time to go back to sleep
elfin barn
fierce hawk
Ya, PS5s and Xbox being sync'd up, plus there basically only being one chip manufacturer EVERYONE is using is pretty dumbbbbb.
granite hawk
and it sent me back to home screen
little slate
tbh I didn't even want a 6800, it must've gone in my cart when I was trying to get anything on their website to work
hoary forge
Yup AMD's website is absolute trash
pure stump
@shadow barn if a god is too good to be true, it is not a good deal. just check prices and ask the selling questions like "did you bitcoin mine with this" and "why type of system was this in?"
guys. AMD has none, the are all gone
fierce hawk
Check your email, dude.
granite hawk
no email
runic bolt
i cry
static fossil
probably cucked
fierce hawk
Some people were getting emails hours later on 5000 series launch
mighty lion
yup gonna buy a 5700xt and wait a few months :/
vestal raft
I got all the way to captcha on AMD's site then it crashed and I lost it
little slate
watching linus review makes me not too disappointed though
runic bolt
same
granite hawk
i didn't crash tho
runic bolt
literally was pressing place order
raven fog
bruh amd says i could input my info and be done yet i can't buy it
little slate
I only wanted to upgrade my 1080ti for ray tracing titles
granite hawk
i got 503 error and refreshed a few times
runic bolt
like tapping tf out of place order lmfao
fierce hawk
Check your credit card or paypal, and check the email.
night vault
That’s what I’m doing marshi
granite hawk
then it sent me to amd's home screen
little slate
and it doesn't look like AMD has delivered ray tracing performance
runic bolt
im checking right now
granite hawk
and boom
runic bolt
just hoping it went through
granite hawk
^
mighty lion
@night vault which one you gonna get?
granite hawk
im not gonna do it again
marsh charm
@little slate are the reviews saying the ray tracing is bad?
ripe ivy
I don't think anyone was expecting raytracing to be on par with Nvidia
granite hawk
cause i don't wanna accidently buy 2
hoary forge
Yea RT on the 6800 and xt is poo
static fossil
Ill gladly take one off yo hands
shadow barn
@shadow barn if a god is too good to be true, it is not a good deal. just check prices and ask the selling questions like "did you bitcoin mine with this" and "why type of system was this in?"
@pure stump what do you mean in what type of system was this in
ripe ivy
Even with Ampere it's not all that great
fierce hawk
You can't do it again. They already changed the site. Just showing 3900 and 3950s again.
vivid pond
Genius idea: get a decent gpu rn, return before it’s extended date, go buy another from another retailer, use and return before it’s date, rinse and repeat until it’s spring
ripe ivy
Raytracing just isn't worth it yet
thick skiff
that's what im doing lol
granite hawk
@fierce hawk it's still in my cart lol
runic bolt
if u are ONLY wanting RAYTRACING buy a fking CONSOLE
its not gonna perform rn
on pc
viral elbow
With raytracing and max it’s only 30fps tho like why
fierce hawk
That probably means your order didn't go through, but I dunno. Their site is jacked.
runic bolt
even console its pretty dog
little slate
@runic bolt that makes literally no sense
marsh charm
I will never buy another console. No chance
runic bolt
it does
little slate
a 3080 can do ray tracing at 1440p just fine
viral elbow
little slate
yes just fine I say
mighty lion
that asrock 5700xt that looks like gigabyte's card, is that one good on cooling?
gilded matrix
I'm still trying to place order on AMD website, it kept taking forever to load
ripe ivy
Uh what?
burnt parcel
its sold out
night vault
@mighty lion I have the XFC THICC II but I cant reccomend it as the thermals aren’t great
It’s a FAT card but it just doesn’t seem to dissipate heat well
I would go and look at reviewers 5700xt videos on thermals
granite hawk
idk if it went through
fierce hawk
3080 @ only $50 more, and with their version of SAM coming with a software enable for Intel and AMD (assuming they don't try to block it, which would probably be an antitrust violation), just makes the 3080 the better buy.
sweet scaffold
amd is sold out. it'll tell you at the top when you're checking out that you ahve to remove the item from your cart becasue it's OOS
marsh charm
How high is the demand for the 3080s right now? I know lots of people are just buying whatever they see
ripe ivy
It won't work with Intel until Intel actually has PCI gen 4
lone pond
what are the chances AIB cards are not instantly sold out?
jolly sandal
Me: Gets on Newegg at 6:50 AM
Me: Keeps refreshing Newegg and checking other sites
Me at 7:10 AM: Still checking Newegg and Newegg saying no results
Me at 7:40 AM: Newegg says everything is out of stock
little slate
@marsh charm they've literally been sold out everywhere since launch, so the demand is pretty high
ripe ivy
The chances are pretty low
little slate
I was able to see the cards show up on newegg about 10 min past launch, all sold out though
static fossil
i wonder who is gonna restock faster nvidia or amd
night vault
@mighty lion
granite hawk
LOL
night vault
granite hawk
fax
deft lake
time to sleep guys
granite hawk
nah
night vault
I would watch this, very helpful
night vault
I’m not a good person to talk to as I just bought whatever best but had
marsh charm
Who knows, NVIDIA cards have higher demand and probably more made but AMD is supplying those damn 60FPS machines
vivid pond
Me: Gets on Newegg at 6:50 AM
Me: Keeps refreshing Newegg and checking other sites
Me at 7:10 AM: Still checking Newegg and Newegg saying no results
Me at 7:40 AM: Newegg says everything is out of stock
@jolly sandal dead ass how it was :/
night vault
That’s how the cookie crumbles
granite hawk
let's just pray the people who did the check out process get the card
like me and @runic bolt
LOL
mighty lion
so bestbuy for me opens in an hour. Ik its only online, so ig in an hour ill see if their site still says coming soon
static fossil
when you only get 4 hours of sleep just to not get the gpu
deft lake
Who get it today? nobody?
jolly sandal
%
dreamy dragonBOT
Buggy#1333 has been warned
hazy trout
<----------
jolly sandal
Oops
runic bolt
@static fossil dude im on 22 hours
jolly sandal
Damn
ripe ivy
Some people here got it apparently
runic bolt
im rekt rn
burnt parcel
like 2 people
static fossil
yeesh
ripe ivy
Best Buy has yet to make the cards available though
runic bolt
i mean i got to clicking place order
so i guess i just wait to see if it goes through
but idk
granite hawk
^
runic bolt
prolly unlikely
rare tangle
best buy was my last resort with ryzen
stable gorge
best buy is our last hope
deft lake
this time sold out faster than rtx 3070
runic bolt
the best buy cards come next week
rare tangle
so maybe ill get one with best buy again
sweet scaffold
did anyone get an amd email confirmation?
marsh charm
It's gonna be like 1 million people fighting over maybe 20 cards
ripe ivy
Did Best Buy say they're launching next week?
burnt parcel
no
runic bolt
i highly doubt the aibs will be comgin today aswell
burnt parcel
he thinks those arent reference cards
hearty osprey
wait for best buy or go to sleep
ripe ivy
They are reference cards
runic bolt
wait
burnt parcel
i know
runic bolt
deadass
hazy trout
their server is prolly rekt rn, im going to call them to confirm my order
burnt parcel
THEY ARE REFERENCE CARDS SOLD BY AIB
little slate
microcenter basically confirmed that this was a paper launch too
jolly sandal
I search up RX 6800 on Best Buy and laptop chargers and batteries show up, nice
ripe ivy
Some microcenter stores got like 10 cards total
night vault
I search it and I get the Nvidia 6800xt lmdao
marsh charm
yeah
ripe ivy
Yo the Nvidia 6800XT that's a good meme
granite hawk
microcenter basically confirmed that this was a paper launch too
@little slate meaning?
what's a paper launch
lmao
night vault
Some dude left a bad review saying it wasn’t an amd 6800xt
runic bolt
u not getting it unless u pick up
granite hawk
bruh
little slate
meaning they had pretty much no stock to sell
night vault
As in it’s more for show not for stock
granite hawk
bruh
runic bolt
likew idk how ppl gonan get this shi without picking it up
quiet oxide
Paper launch is when they say a new product is available and it never comes in stock
light mesa
Quick questiom
marsh charm
There's no way there is a larger profit margin supplying consoles than these $650 cards
granite hawk
this is the fattest bs i've ever seen
little slate
so it got launched on paper, but they had almost no cards to actually sell
light mesa
Will the new rx6800 be worth it
granite hawk
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUH
ripe ivy
Technically a paper launch is when all we have is specs, and there is literally no way to get it
hazy trout
they take a loss on consoles
static fossil
i swear they make 2 gpu's total for the whole world
hazy trout
but they get money back buy %
ripe ivy
But I guess you can say it's thin like paper cause there isn't nearly enough to even meet 10% of the demand
hazy trout
so they lose on concolse gpu pricing but gain on game sales
quiet oxide
the fact that there is cards available and people walked in a stored and got them... this isn't a paper launch.
6800XT shares the same 3rd party fab with Ryzen 3000/ 5000. They are allocated so much silcon by that fab and have to split it up between them all
granite hawk
had newegg not crassed
ripe ivy
If they can meet 10% of the demand in the next few weeks, that would be pretty standard actually
night vault
3070>6800 but I’d try to get either if you’re desperate
granite hawk
oh
quiet oxide
Newegg fumbled for sure here... they tried to push the listing live and broke everything.
ripe ivy
Sure, just wait. Do you have no GPU at all?
granite hawk
nope
runic bolt
just to comfirm one more time .... the BEST BUY 6800s that on COMING SOON are not releasing today
granite hawk
laptop atm
runic bolt
or is there a chance
night vault
Not performance wise but value wise
hazy trout
i have both 3070 and 6800, im waiting for benchmarks to come out to see which one i keep
marsh charm
I feel like AMD is working themselves into the ground. They've technically released 4 products in the past 2 weeks
burnt parcel
theres a chance
ripe ivy
Eh slum it with a cheap 580 I'd say
burnt parcel
in 8 mins
runic bolt
ok
ripe ivy
It'll do 1080p
granite hawk
im trying to get the 5600x
sweet scaffold
best buy doesn't release on launch time. they delay
granite hawk
so that's why im going for the rx 6800
vivid pond
If you sell to me I’d cry 🙏🏻🙏🏻 @hazy trout
granite hawk
LOL
hazy trout
lol i got like 15 dms for people trying to buy
burnt parcel
bruh
granite hawk
LMAO
vivid pond
I figured lmao
runic bolt
i was gonna do the 6800 xt but imma just hope me doing the 6800 gives me atleast a chance lmfao
granite hawk
i didn't dm i
cause like
ur gonna want to make profit
and not sell it for stock
vivid pond
I had to take my shot
static fossil
we are THIRSTY for a gpu right now
night vault
Which is completely understandable
topaz furnace
Nvidia is still looking better according to ltt
fathom cliff
I just am going to go back to Switch and Pokemon at this rate.
hazy trout
i honestly wanted the 6800, i bought the 3070 as a just in case i dont get a 6800 and need to complete this build, but somehow i got lucky and have both so now i get to kinda choose waht i wanna do
ripe ivy
I'm waiting for either a cheap 5700XT or the 6700 cards to come out
vivid pond
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take- Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott
granite hawk
6700?
topaz furnace
Nvidia is still looking better according to ltt
hazy trout
did ltt release the bench?
quiet oxide
These retailers need to do what EVGA did. Don't sell direct, put the person on a list and when a card is available give them a link that is good for 8hours that garuntees a purchase. I'd go a step further and tie it to a gov't issued ID
topaz furnace
Yepp
night vault
My 5700xt is a confused man. Some days I spend hours emulating game boy, and the next day I shove the guy into godfall on max and he cries
marsh charm
How much better did LTT say 3080 is?
night vault
Compared to?
topaz furnace
3080 vs 6800xt 3080 looks better
hazy trout
jayz just put out a video
topaz furnace
When you enable FLSS
little slate
the 6800 xt beats the 3080 in normal operation for most titles
little slate
but if you introduce ray tracing or DLSS, 3080 destroys the 6800xt
granite hawk
@topaz furnace can u link ltt review here
night vault
Not imo
little slate
it's not nvidia optimized, it literally belongs to nvidia
you can't use dlss on amd
ripe ivy
I wouldn't say destroy, but yeah it's better
night vault
A personal thing
topaz furnace
But when you enable DLSS and rtx it trounced readeon even with smart access mem
night vault
So you can’t put it against amd
marsh charm
Did the LTT benchmakrs use SAM?
exotic vine
gusy the 6800 hasnt dropped on best buy yet
little slate
but AMD doesn't have anything to compete against DLSS
vagrant phoenix
I just woke up yawn Did no one here get one?
uneven portal
Are we just going to pretend that DLSS isn't some scrub upscaling tech?
topaz furnace
little slate
@ripe ivy with ray tracing the 3080 absolutely destroyed the 6800xt
fierce hawk
IT doesn't really. It's very tight, but it doesn't start to overtake unless you have a 5000 series CPU for SAM functionality. And the 6800 gets absolutely demolished for anything that has to do with production.
ripe ivy
Just like Nvidia is gonna add resizable BAR support, AMD will add AI upscaling
meager phoenix
No 6800XT. Guess I'll just keep the RTX 3090 FE
ripe ivy
We'll see how they'll compare in a years time
exotic vine
be happy you have one what the hecc
mighty lion
im buying a gigabyte 5700xt with a $40 off promo + free godfall lol
little slate
yeah but we're talking about now, not future potential
mighty lion
neat deal
ripe ivy
Absolutely now now is and I get that
But not even considering potential is short sighted
night vault
Not gonna cap
limpid latch
If you 4k in most cases nvidia wins, if you stream and like the extra features nvidia is the better choice
analog hawk
how do you guys think amds version of dlss will do compared to nvidia
static fossil
rip
exotic vine
does notbody care that best buy hasnt dropped the 6800
ripe ivy
No idea, probably won't be as good
limpid latch
Best bang for buck though 6800xt n cheaper monitors with freesync
rare tangle
They dont drop until their store opens
little slate
to me RTX voice is a huge selling factor too, I was willing to sacrifice it if AMD delivered comparable ray tracing performance
but they don't...
daring tusk
doesnt nvidida gpus also support fresync?
little slate
most freesync monitors now work with nvidia too
exotic vine
its 10 am et for me your telling me they havent opened??
runic bolt
idk why ppl are so geeked about raytracing rn
granite hawk
so
analog hawk
RT perf isnt great because of dlss for the most part right
ripe ivy
I didn't expect them to even compete with raytracing 
limpid latch
Yes but can get flickering
granite hawk
RX 6800< RTX 3070
shrewd harbor
knowing next gen consoles are using AMD processors and graphics (tho Zen2), with series X using RDNA2 it should not disappoint
rare tangle
Dont they open at 11am est
ripe ivy
But it's good enough tbh, it's still a gimmick and it doesn't matter
granite hawk
gone at 9:00.000001
rare tangle
Yeah but best buy opens at 10am cst
little slate
the PS4 and xbone both used AMD processors and graphics too, and that didn't do us much good back then
wait 10 am cst? Not est?
quiet oxide
DisplayPort has adaptive sync built into the standard. AMD rebranded that as FreeSync. NVIDIA added onto it with hardware in the monitor and called it 'GSync'. GYSYNC is compatible with AdaptiveSync because its a superset
limpid latch
You can save on not buying a gsync compatible or gsync monitor tho
vagrant phoenix
@granite hawk Isn’t that what I said last night?
exotic vine
i have class
granite hawk
what a shat release
night vault
What I was gonna sayy
vagrant phoenix
I’m going to change my name to The Grand Swami
quiet oxide
'GSync Compatible' monitors work on Adaptive / FreeSync standard
limpid latch
Either way save money on amd less features better 1080p
ripe ivy
Well tbf, The PS4 and Xbone using those really weak Jaguar cores obviously wouldn't do much
night vault
Was that idk ab any of you but I couldn’t care less about upscaling as I play on 1080p
ripe ivy
They were pretty much trounced by Intel's i7s of the time
static fossil
guys amd's website died
mighty lion
I just bought this. It's fine cause Im going to build my lil brother a pc in the future anyway, so once i can get an rx6800xt down the road, I can stick this 5700xt into his pc
limpid latch
Yes but you dont understand there is a chance for flickering with no real compatibility with gsync
eternal locust
pretty nice card for your lil bro
night vault
Yea it’s a pretty good card
ripe ivy
That has Black Friday price protection too, so if it gets a further discount you'll get it later
quiet oxide
I bought the 5700XT for my brother's birthday last year, not a bad card
night vault
Just make sure to stay on “stable” labeled drivers
marsh charm
Im not even 5 minutes into the LTT benchmarks and I'm considering getting a 3080 now. The raytracing on the 6800XT is a joke
night vault
Or you won’t have a fun time
quiet oxide
I had one too... but sold it because of the drivers were bad at that time
ripe ivy
Do you guys really care about ray tracing that much?
night vault
I don’t
marsh charm
I'd like to have good raytracing
lone pond
still no eta on the bestbuy cards?
mighty lion
@marsh charm you werent aware the 6000s cards were going to have lack luster rtx?
night vault
But still gonna go green
granite hawk
@marsh charm same or a 3070 just to save a bit more money
stable gorge
best buy is still coming soon
ripe ivy
But why though?
night vault
For nvenc
analog hawk
i enable raytracing when possible
marsh charm
I'm trying to get into more open world story games
runic bolt
raytracing is legit brain washing u ppl
limpid latch
Nvidia needs to make smart decisions next gpu models though or they may get stomped
ripe ivy
I can other stand the other software options
runic bolt
lmfao
runic bolt
^
eternal locust
@ripe ivy you expect that card will drop even more in price since its on price protection?
analog hawk
because it looks pretty cool in terms of reflections and something i can gush over
night vault
Ray tracing is just lowering performance on the 10 games it works on
From what I’ve seen
limpid latch
Dlss and ray tracing and streaming encoding go nvidia
ripe ivy
I'm fine with fake light rays and reflections
spiral charm
who needs rat tracign anyways...
ripe ivy
It won't be worth it until full path tracing is viable
night vault
But to be fair only one does
ripe ivy
That will be like 2 or 3 gens out
night vault
I’m going Nvidia for nvenc personally
granite hawk
im probs gonna get a 3080 or 3070 now
night vault
And more stable drivers as my 5700xt is mega annoying
civic harbor
Where can you get founders edition cards?
limpid latch
Wait for 3080 ti
ripe ivy
I don't even see the appeal in Nvenc
runic bolt
ppl see RTX and bust a load because icecandy
night vault
Amss site
ripe ivy
CPU encoding is good enough imo
limpid latch
CPU encoding will lower ur performance
vivid pond
So those Best Buy cards
night vault
I completely agree, my opinion might change if the 6700xt rivals the 3060ti
granite hawk
only reason i'd get a rx 6800 is cause i might get a 5600x
ripe ivy
And GPU encoding doesn't?
limpid latch
GPU encoding barely uses 3% of gpu power
halcyon python
@civic harbor bestbuy for fe
night vault
I’m gonna go for either 5600 w 3060ti or a 6700xt
vagrant phoenix
@runic bolt Some people want their games to look great. What’s wrong with that?
night vault
We shall see
hoary forge
For my Canadian RX buyers:
limpid latch
Nvidia will get it's on sam setup
runic bolt
because itll still look good lmfao
vivid pond
These guys are ridiculous
ripe ivy
It's marginally better visuals
runic bolt
your losing performance for legit nothingthat will comepletely change the game
ripe ivy
Which isn't worth the performance loss I think
night vault
My buddy’s 2070super with ray tracing on barely looks better than my 5700xt but gets way less frames due to it
little slate
it's meant for single player games
ripe ivy
Really this is just Hair Works again
runic bolt
it looks better but at the cost of performance which in return lowers the wquality
limpid latch
Then u add dlss
analog hawk
for some games it might be tbh where 60fps is very much playable and kinda the target
little slate
if I can have my single player adventure game look pretty at 60 fps, over looking less pretty at 120 fps, I'll take the 60 fps
limpid latch
And looks better and better performance
little slate
high refresh rate is only important in games like fps and online competitive games
night vault
@granite hawk
runic bolt
have fun with ur 8-10 rtx titles
ripe ivy
I'll take a cheaper card if I'm gonna settle for 60
vagrant phoenix
Depends on what type of game yoh are playing though. Not everything requires 200fps twitch skill Adderall fueled speed
analog hawk
and im not gonna be playing comp titles at 4k
runic bolt
why buy a monitor thats higher then 60hz to just run at 60fps
night vault
The Minecraft rtx isn’t even better than a good shaderpack/texture pack combo
runic bolt
ur brains are so tiiny
limpid latch
Either way its every9nes money so do what makes you happy and dont complain or try n argue. Each has its benefit
runic bolt
theres actually benefit to 1440p in comp
ripe ivy
Honestly the minecraft RTX is kinda overated
runic bolt
i played esports with winnings on a 1440p monitor
ripe ivy
Using Silder's vibrant shaders on Java minecraft looks better imo
analog hawk
i play 1440p for comp titles and 4k for titles that are fine at 60fps
ripe ivy
That doesn't even do path tracing, it has good volumetric lighting and vibrant colors
Looks very appealing
fluid star
whos won ?
limpid latch
AMD if you want cheaper bang for buck less features and nvidia with you stream and want more seasoned features or 4k. Simple end of discussion
ripe ivy
Nice
quiet oxide
Newegg's search is still broken
granite hawk
idk what's better now
limpid latch
Ppl on here are as toxic as trump vs biden hah
little slate
@runic bolt man you sure do have one entitled opinion, where anyone that wants to do anything different is wrong
granite hawk
all i see is tht if ur getting a rx card u might as well get the XT
runic bolt
@little slate its not that, people just say things like its factual then get upset when someone does it back lmfao
hazy trout
honestly i think if your doing RT then nvidia if your not doing RT then Radeon
ripe ivy
Pick your poison
limpid latch
Yes Justin's amd xt if you dont care about extra features and not streaming
hearty osprey
guess I am waiting til december for BIG boy
little slate
I literally explained how there's a difference in what's important between a single player adventure game and an online fps
runic bolt
@little slate legit just showing u guys what ur doing towards others and the second someone does it to u u cry
hazy trout
also the benchemarks are without the amd cpu gpu combo smart memory crap
little slate
so I want my eye candy when I play something like cyberpunk when it comes out
runic bolt
lil snow flakes lmfao
little slate
and I want my high fps when I play online fps
runic bolt
its the internet if u cant handle it theres a leave button
ripe ivy
AMD vaguely mentioned improving their encoder, I'd like to know more about that but they didn't go into detail at all
little slate
you're not showing us anything
you're just complaining about people that want something different from their games
vagrant phoenix
Sightz is salty about something lol
limpid latch
More than just eye candy, if your streaming and trying to make money doing that nvidia will be the better option as well
granite hawk
Yes Justin's amd xt if you dont care about extra features and not streaming
@limpid latch yea and i do want to stream so
i think i changed my mind
LMAO
fluid star
bro amds insane
little slate
you didn't hit us with anything
runic bolt
u the one @signal inlet me first bud
vagrant phoenix
WTF does simpin mean?
fading shard
Honestly why make this a toxic environment @runic bolt like this is supposed to be a fun environment to talk about pc’s and parts and be nerds with other nerds
granite hawk
LOL
runic bolt
ALMFOa
granite hawk
i saw a comment
daring tusk
lol
runic bolt
bruh im weak af
little slate
we were just having a discussion about different things we want from our GPUs
wary anvil
Quick question: does the 2060 ko perform better with DLSS than the 2060 non-ko?
little slate
you're out here calling people dumb for no reason
runic bolt
me saying that raytracing isnt worth it
ripe ivy
Never heard of that
runic bolt
and saying i think its dumb
little slate
that's your opinion
runic bolt
is being toxic
little slate
no, you calling people smoothbrain for wanting ray tracing is being toxic
runic bolt
lmfao
daring tusk
what you sent one message about raytraing then proceeded to call people dumb
runic bolt
bruh
are u new to the internet
if someone says small brain u gonna tell ur parents?
like grow up
its not that serious
wary anvil
Sightz that's enough
burnt parcel
bro idk what card to get now
fluid star
6800xt not for 4k but definatly for 2k
vagrant phoenix
Go smoke a bowl Sightz and come back after you calm down...good Lord 😂
civic harbor
@burnt parcel same
fluid star
even better than 3090with 2k
stable gorge
lol I just want card at all
runic bolt
im checking out the 3080 fe or gonan jsut wait for the 6 800 xt
stable gorge
did best buy forget to open their stores today
untold veldt
i got all the way to secure order and then it told me it sold out
daring tusk
if you anything extra like straming the 3000 sereies seems the best
runic bolt
my best buy opens in 3 hours
wary anvil
im checking out the 3080 fe or gonan jsut wait for the 6 800 xt
@runic bolt "lol you play esports small brain why yous getting an expensive card dummy"
untold veldt
they say it's online only is that true? for best buy
daring tusk
yes
daring tusk
lol
runic bolt
yea that wont work bud lmfao
wary anvil
Currently AMD seems to be performing better for rasterization based rendering, especially at lower resolutions
runic bolt
tells me to stop then @s me when i stop and try to change the subject lmfao
fluid star
@wary anvil where are u from
dense prairie
what the hell is happening right now
ripe ivy
Yeah that's something I figured would happen because it was clear Nvidia was having diminishing returns under 4k
runic bolt
anyway
daring tusk
anyone else part of laptop GTX 970m gang
vagrant phoenix
Sightz is having a conniption fit
runic bolt
imma check to see what 3080 fe i can snag near me
wary anvil
That said, both are more than enough to max out even the best monitor on most esports, so I'd just go with the cheaper one
crisp ocean
not even microcenter has some damn
wary anvil
You probably won't be able to find one
dusk ivy
6800xt not for 4k but definatly for 2k
@fluid star 6800xt have you seen the leaked benchm? Slaps 3080/3090 @4k
untold veldt
any where i can go in Florida to actually buy the amd new GPU and CPU
little slate
you're talking about scalper cards everywhere?
ripe ivy
2060 Super performance is pretty much maxing out esports games for high refresh at 1080p, so really you don't need to spend a whole lot
runic bolt
yep
wary anvil
If you want cheaper, go for the 3070
burnt parcel
Anyone know what card i should get with this as a placeholder?
i want it to be good still
wary anvil
Or even just wait for the 3060
ripe ivy
Good for what?
wary anvil
Or 6700
ripe ivy
At 1440p?
burnt parcel
1080 will do fine
ripe ivy
Then you can do that easy with an RX 580
keen notch
placeholder for what
burnt parcel
since im going 1080, how about high settings
fiery falcon
@fiery falcon what res
@lone pond 1440p
burnt parcel
i see
keen notch
or 2060 if u like raytracing
ripe ivy
Probably on sale though huh
fiery falcon
Yeah go AMD for anything above a 2060
Because prices for the other 2000 series GPUs are so skewed
viral elbow
Like 700 something plus
viral elbow
Yea...it’s half a month worth of salary and two months of groceries
viral elbow
Lol guess ramen noodle will be the choice for the next few months
burnt parcel
im tempted to get a bestbuy bot
fiery falcon
People sometimes forget how expensive it can be
burnt parcel
but then i would be the problem
vivid pond
Tru
burnt parcel
morals vs good card
mighty lion
r5 3600 good cpu for the 5700xt?
clear frigate
It's not a problem if you aren't scalping it
vivid pond
They say it’s a dog eat dog world mane
runic bolt
@burnt parcel tbh bro do it if u think itll help at this point
burnt parcel
theres literally a bestbuy bot for 70 bucks
runic bolt
i mean do what u gut tells u boss
wary anvil
There are probably also a good number of other people with bots at this point, so there's no real guaruntee that it'll land you a card
exotic vine
best buy still wont take the 6800 of "coming soon"
dusk ivy
Links for Canadian BB say sold out
exotic vine
i might just give up
dusk ivy
Same with newegg
exotic vine
why is it still "comin soon"
wary anvil
Maybe they're waiting for partner models?
wary anvil
Odd
ripe ivy
Maybe they're trying to avoid a massive influx, cause they knew everyone and their mother was gonna be on trying to get a card at this time
exotic vine
ive been waiting for months to get this card
my build is sitting unfinished for weeks now
i give up
i had a 3070 in my cart, i thought it would be reserved
wary anvil
Possibly. If they stagger the launches a bit it would decrease the load on the server, and also make it harder for some bots
exotic vine
they were supposed to drop at 9 am et for me, its now 10:40
hearty osprey
what do you guys think of 5900x
little slate
best buy supposedly won't update until 10 am central
exotic vine
what
fading shard
Where’d you here that
exotic vine
yeah
untold veldt
can't wait for it to also be sold out within seconds
potent rampart
well if they didnt drop at 9 am est, then it's gotta somehow be 11 am est
topaz furnace
Any stock on 3080?
exotic vine
whats the point of living if you spend 30% of your life in a prison like state to live a better future, and then somepeople arent even gaurenteed to make it that long
untold veldt
btw if you guys need a full new system iBuyPower looks pretty good
wary anvil
None available for purchase that I know of
exotic vine
best buy supposedly won't update until 10 am central
@little slate where did you hear that?
topaz furnace
When is 3000 series NV gonna be back in stock?
tulip sapphire
so how quick did the gpus go?
exotic vine
we dont know
untold veldt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDyXRT i buy powers has that for 1,745
exotic vine
best buy hasnt even dropped yet
wary anvil
It'll be back in stock when they think they have enough
burnt parcel
on amd the site crashed like 2 people here got one
fading shard
I was able to press confirm order on amd
exotic vine
best buy hasnt sold any, it says coming soon
fading shard
But no confirmation email yet
topaz furnace
NV still looks better tho
vestal raft
@fading shard same here
burnt parcel
b&h says they aint selling them until they actually get them
wary anvil
@untold veldt You could save some money on that list
exotic vine
idc i just want a gpu at this point
tulip sapphire
So about on average with everything this year then. Oh well; happy hunting to those looking today.
burnt parcel
amazon never showed up
fading shard
Yeah
exotic vine
it was hard to find them on any website, even before launch
wary anvil
Also keep in mind that iBP is able to get bulk rate licenses from windows
topaz furnace
What do you guys think
exotic vine
ive been refreshing best buy for almost 2 hrs now and it hasnt changed from "coming soon"
vivid pond
^^
burnt parcel
wait 14 minutes
untold veldt
just another option for people here and the 1050 w power supply is there because going from 850 - 1050w gold +80 is a 20$ diff
verbal dirge
What a launch day!
stable gorge
best buy workers are slow
topaz furnace
NV looks better with DLSS and ray tracing but amd looks better out of the box. Smart access mem doesn't really make a difference with l
Dlss and Ray tracing
rose adder
LOL top comment on gamer's nexus review "rage mode activated for people trying to buy this card"
wary anvil
Less than 60
exotic vine
WHY WAIT 14 IS IT ACTUALLY COMING OUT AT 11 EST
wary anvil
It's more like five bucks a pop
burnt parcel
thats what i heard
topaz furnace
Yea
exotic vine
these companies are embarassing
wary anvil
The ram there is also complete garbage
exotic vine
worth hundreds of millions and they cant suport orders for more than 3 mins
rose adder
TSMC is the bottleneck
verbal dirge
Looking at the reviews im now set on just waiting for restock of the 3080. I feel like for the price and range of what I want from a card thats the best out of the bunch
rose adder
They build equipment years and years ahead of time and could not have possibly anticipated the increased demand dur to pandemic
rare tangle
The dlss is really dissapointing. Like minecraft's performance is max 16 fps. I think maybe with a bit of patching and such it's gonna be a bit better hopefully
Yeah
It's awful
thick skiff
maybe 3070 is the way to go
vivid pond
Y’all
rare tangle
But luckily im not gonna be using that much at all.
lone pond
So how are the new cards looking guys?
Saw the benchmarks I don't know what to think they're so inconsistent
ripe ivy
Isn't Minecraft like one of the few games that's actually fully path traced?
rare tangle
Plus i think shaders look better anyway
thick skiff
it's only the vram of the 3070 that's worrying me
vivid pond
Next warehouse shows that 3070s will be 150 with an eta of 11/30
verbal dirge
Until then I have a 2060 super still not opened so I guess Ill use that until then
grim edge
Have they drop on best buy yet
exotic vine
I DONT EVEN HAVE A GPU RN
potent rampart
isnt 3070 vram the same as 3080?
vivid pond
But
exotic vine
THE REST OF MY BUILD IS DONE
vivid pond
It’s 649
ripe ivy
No it isn't
vivid pond
Mega down side
ripe ivy
It has 8
potent rampart
oh yea 8 on 3070 right
vivid pond
@exotic vine
rare tangle
Bruh im running an i5 2400 and a 970 dude. Im just tryna upgrade my pc
thick skiff
i recommend you buy a gpu from best buy
vivid pond
Bro! Do what I’m doing
grim edge
Who else is waiting on best buy
little slate
watching j2c video on the 6800xt makes it seem like a pretty bad value atm unless you have a ryzen 5000 series CPU and don't want ray tracing or all the extra nvidia features
thick skiff
as a place holder
potent rampart
yea but at 1440p you'll never need more than 8
untold veldt
im trying to get one for my brother
thick skiff
there's this holiday return deal
exotic vine
whats up bearjew
topaz furnace
6800xt looks a bit disappointing
hearty osprey
so 5900X are in back order at CDW but til 25th possibly. Not to mention that if you live in cali it comes out too $ 659....
thick skiff
you can return it before jan 6 or something
exotic vine
ive been trying to get a gpu for so long
grim edge
With my 3080 on amazon i got hit with 80 in tax
limpid latch
@topaz furnace for price isnt bad if you dont want the extra features
thick skiff
try to grab a 6000 or 3000 within that time span
exotic vine
then i see scalpers talking about how they have 4 3070s
topaz furnace
I think after trying to get a 6800xt and looking at the reviews ima just go with 3080 tbh
vivid pond
@exotic vine buy a 1660 off of best buy and you can return like Jan 16 and be ok
Use it as a placeholder
ripe ivy
They should have been $499 and $599 respectively
exotic vine
like bruh i will invert your ribcage and fill your sinuses with the jelly from your moms eyes
topaz furnace
Should I got with NV?
limpid latch
watch once ppl get home from microcenter they will post the cards online
vital gale
every time i see giancarlo esposito's face i imagine he just bought everything im trying to buy
topaz furnace
Or get next weeks 6800xt aibs?
untold veldt
honestly the 6800 XT is a good 1080p high settings RTX off card
wary anvil
@untold veldt Here's a better but cheaper list with the same basic specs:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tQbXRT
ripe ivy
Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong either way
ripe ivy
It's easy to say it's disappointing when you look at benchmark graphs
limpid latch
amd if you wanna spend less, nvidia if you stream, want dlss, raytracing
thats what it comes down to
exotic vine
i might just buy the 1660 but im using 1440p
ripe ivy
I think the 3070 is dead in the water with that Vram
limpid latch
get nvidia 1660 and do stepup to ti 3080
exotic vine
i would be better off with the 3070 too but im sick of god damn waiting
ripe ivy
The 3060 is allegedly gonna have a 12gb option
keen notch
yea
vivid pond
I am too @exotic vine , I’m grinding a 3950x on a 1660 super because my whole pc was built and I needed to at least use it during this time
grim edge
What should I keep 3070 msi or my 3080 evga $200 difference
rare tangle
its supposed to beat the 2080s
ripe ivy
Well yeah I would imagine
exotic vine
thats an f in chat
ripe ivy
And the 3060 will be like 2070 Super - 2080 performance
vivid pond
You sell one to me lmao @grim edge
wary anvil
It's got 8gb. That's a decent amount if you're not doing 8k ultra, which the 3070 isn't designed to do
ripe ivy
I think it'll start to show its age soon enough though
grim edge
Just use Telegram
viral elbow
How are you guys even getting 2070 super nowadays tho
limpid latch
@grim edge keep evga 3080, register it and do stepup when it shows ti it may show up on for it.. sell the 3070 or return it
wary anvil
Let's be honest here, the cards are already showing their age
limpid latch
@grim edge is it ftw3
vivid pond
In case anyone missed this, but Nextwarehouse has 3070s for 649
Just a psa
And a lot of them
grim edge
@limpid latch sadly no
wary anvil
That's 150 over the msrp
ripe ivy
$649 for a 3070 
exotic vine
I refuse to buy from a scalper
limpid latch
@grim edge xc3?
exotic vine
i refuse
royal copper
dont say my 2070 nshow age 
wary anvil
We know there are scalpers out there
exotic vine
if you are a scalper you deserve to go to hell
grim edge
@limpid latch ya
wary anvil
Also, they're not 649
rare tangle
i really hope that the rx series is the same as the ryzen series on best buy. they had it in stock and out of stock on purpose every couple minutes so people had a chance to buy them
untold veldt
honestly though there are a lot of 5000 series CPU
lone pond
best buy cards comming soon still.... in a couple mins?
wary anvil
IMPORTANT PSA: avoid the nextwarehouse site for now
burnt parcel
hope so
untold veldt
gl EVERYONE
buoyant stone
Gl
rare tangle
gl boys
vestal raft
rip
sweet scaffold
nothing
wary anvil
They start using https once you get to checkout, but it's still really bad for them not to be using it for every page
rare tangle
tf what is this
topaz furnace
I just want a gpu
rare tangle
it still says coming soon
exotic vine
*same
ripe ivy
I'm defaulted to https
exotic vine
like bruhg
rose adder
Why does ssl matter before checkout
topaz furnace
Best buy out?
wary anvil
ssl should just be present at all times at this point
lone pond
lmao coming soon
ripe ivy
It's probably fine for 1080p I'd say
burnt parcel
seppuku time
grim edge
Any one play GTA 5 RP
burnt parcel
i give up
stiff jackal
“When will then be now?”
“Soon!”
ripe ivy
sOoN
exotic vine
ITS BEEN SOON FOR 2 HOURS
wary anvil
They have an ssl certificate, but it's improperly configured. A "leading Information Technology (IT) and Industrial Operational Technology (IOT) system integrator/ distributor" should know how to configure a cert
exotic vine
Yes
ripe ivy
I think it will be fine for the most part
topaz furnace
Is there a difference between the amd reference and the partners reference?
dusty charm
Best buy is still showing as coming soon?
ripe ivy
No there is no difference
burnt parcel
yes
vivid pond
Yup
ripe ivy
The partners are simply selling the reference card
burnt parcel
^
ripe ivy
With their own branded box
topaz furnace
Why are they selling them?
ripe ivy
That's how AMD does it
fathom cliff
They didn't have time or stock to make their own?
ripe ivy
This isn't a new thing, they've done this for ages
topaz furnace
Why do the partners sell the exact same one as amd with their boxing?
burnt parcel
because thats how amd does it
topaz furnace
Wym?