I’m a first time builder and have failed to get a card for all of the three different 30 series launches and don’t know if I will get one with the 6000 series amd cards
#graphics-cards
fading shard
Just sucks that people use bots and it ruins people’s experience like me because I haven’t been able to build my pc yet because of not knowing how to make a bot so I have a very hard time getting a card
lone pond
unless you were on it 24/7 you likely still wouldn't of gotten one people are still reselling by h and just because they know they can make a ton of money
best buy and newegg r the 2 most botted websites
fading shard
Would anyone be willing to help me try to get a card tomorrow?
Or just like give me tips on the best way to try to get one
shell mesa
do people think that availability of the 3000 series cards from nvidia will be more available if the bench marks show that the radeon gpus can compete
eternal locust
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-xt-mech-oc/p/N82E16814137465 is this a good card or not? i know we not supposed to dwell on reviews but there's alot of crappy ones for this product on newegg which makes me wonder
copper mason
Just sucks that people use bots and it ruins people’s experience like me because I haven’t been able to build my pc yet because of not knowing how to make a bot so I have a very hard time getting a card
@fading shard Just get a decently priced card that's powerful enough to run what you want to run. Use youtube benchmark / reviews to judge getting the right card. Get one you can sell 2nd hand on the site of choice for a reasonable price when you find a better / newer card, if you don't want to lose much in the process. Then you can get a newer card when you can FIND one, and then you still get to have fun in the process. Sorry PC building doesn't seem fun for you - but this can be the same experience with consoles during release and mobile phones, too. This has even happened with limited edition cars in the past - heck even Honda Accords when they came out in the mid and late 80's with the updates to the platform were selling with THOUSANDS of dollars in markups.
rose adder
I got a 5900x on launch so I have a bit of experience. I really don't think a bot would help much with Newegg, and I say that as someone who has written bots for many web scraping tasks (not related to PC hardware)
you just gotta find the url and keep refreshing
rose adder
people like to blame bots as the reason they didn't get one but in reality they just weren't fast enough
copper mason
@eternal locust A lot of bugs plaguing the AMD drivers which caused a lot of bad reviews a year or so ago were fixed. Look up youtube reviews by Gamer's Nexus and Hardware Unboxed, there was even a stinker-of-an-Asus card in the bunch. Usually MSI is pretty decent when it comes to video cards, for the record. Not perfect, but usually okay.
ripe ivy
Looks like that Mech OC card is bad thermally actually
rose adder
Amazon is really easy to write bots for, I think that is kinda a lost cause unless you want to write your own bot
eternal locust
Yeah Nexus said thermally it's impaired i was more so worried about the driver glitches and black screens
ripe ivy
fading shard
@copper mason I mean I already know Ill either get the 6800xt or 3080 but failed getting the 3080 when it launched and might not get the 6800xt because of low stock and high demand im just worried I won’t get it and want to find the best way to try to get it
ripe ivy
That one has a $40 off promo right now
rose adder
Newegg mitigated bot purchases by not listing the 5000 series on the search bar, so the only way to get it was the direct linkl
ripe ivy
Hmm not the price I'm looking for unfortunately, gonna wait for serious discounts in the next quarter probably 
rose adder
so if you are serious about getting new releases you should make a burner email account and sign up for all the newegg newsletter lists you can, and before launch sift through them for the direct links
by the time it shows up in the app and on search it is too late
eternal locust
@ripe ivy I feel that
copper mason
@fading shard Hey, if both the 3080 and the 6800xt are out, there's only so much money for hardware to go around, so you'll get one eventually. Keep an eye out for open box items too, if you're a week after release and still don't have one. Just find something that's available for purchase, or grab a similarly performing last-gen model new or used. If you get one that performs similar, and can deal with slightly less ray tracing performance, you really haven't lost anything.
fading shard
Alright we’ll see thanks
hazy glacier
The 3080 and 6800XT should be performing better than any last gen tho
shell mesa
what about titans
hazy glacier
Maybe not by so much
copper mason
Yeah waiting around for stock and failing over and over is not a good feeling. Though getting one is definitely worth the reward, there's not much the last-gen cards can't do, even if they're slightly slower.
hazy glacier
Last RTX Titan is a 2080 Ti with more vram
shell mesa
oh
ripe ivy
It has more shaders too doesn't it?
hazy glacier
Too expensive too, still 2000$ or 40000 or whatever it is lmfao
ripe ivy
And also full memory bus
hazy glacier
ig so ye
shell mesa
it was just a suggestion
ripe ivy
It's literally like maybe 5% more performance tops, but yeah
shell mesa
i just want a new ryzen cpu
copper mason
It was different 12 years ago when you needed the absolute best SLI machine to run Fallout New Vegas at 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 at a reasonably smooth FPS on max detail. Those days have passed, and if you can deal with 5~10% less performance (while possibly disheartening a bit), it shouldn't foul your game at any rate. Ray Tracing performance difference is a little more drastic of a difference, but few games support it currently.
For those wanting an Nvidia card if moving from AMD Polaris cards, due to driver issues (I had a number of issues myself on Polaris), don't go running to Nvidia for better drivers. Been there done-that, Nvidia 2070 Super, and still get driver issues just as often. That's on Studio Ready (read: supposedly more stable) drivers too. Sheesh!
Both AMD and Nvidia are to be considered for argument sake on a level playing field with drivers currently, though to be honest I cannot speak for the unreleased 6xxx Radeon card series, for obvious reasons. One should always expect a hiccup or two on any new hardware. Then if there's no issue you're only nicely surprised.
hazy glacier
Speaking of RTX, it’s funny how I’m not seeing it so much easily
I can get a comparison from Nvidia but if I play it, can’t see difference too well lmao
ripe ivy
Seems to differ from person to person
hazy glacier
Probably just playing games that I won’t see it so easily
Or just that I put in RTX first and I won’t really notice so much cause I see it as default
ripe ivy
It's probably also the implmentation
Like most of the games are utilizing like one effect really well, like reflections, or global illumination
hazy glacier
So if I were to have used DX11/12 for a good while, a week maybe and then RTX, I could probably see a difference easily
copper mason
Aside of Quake II RTX, I don't own anything game-wise that even has RTX in it as an option, let alone a requirement. Quake II RTX was a blast (but I'm also almost 40), but only because I like the old-school games (so if you like those old games from the 90's, check it out). Seriously, just get something that has the performance you NEED and is a decent price. Going beyond the point of diminishing returns (unless you have LOADS of cash) isn't always advisable - though this is a PC enthusiast forum - so who's to tell any of us that - not that we'd listen...
hazy glacier
I tried that, was p impressive. Got like 40-45FPS with it too surprisingly
copper mason
Now productivity wise, Maya, Blender, Substance Designer, those all can use RTX natively. Yes it's fast, even a 2070 Super is several times faster than a stock 3950x CPU with 3000mhz cl-15 dual-rank memory.
hazy glacier
Used a 7700K with 2070 Super
ripe ivy
For a lot of people, Cuda is a pretty important thing for lots of programs now. Radeon doesn't have much of an answer to it unfortunately for them
copper mason
@ripe ivy yeah, that's honestly under-served by the game review community, they don't mention enough of 'well if you also use your PC to MAKE games or content, or do work'.
I make content, for my Los Injurus City Map project for Beamng Drive, a game that will actually USE all your CPU cores. I also made the Roane County TN USA mod for that game. I like making maps for a driving simulator on here because it hones skills and such, and also fits in with the for-hire workflow apps I already have on here.
I went to render a 1.5~2 million triangle tunnel on here and to my size it came up in a few seconds - like one or two max. I was SHOCKED. Even the CPU wasn't too shabby at less than 10 seconds IIRC.
In this increasingly work-at-home society, my PC parts not only have to pull their weight, and earn a bit of cash - but other's PC's are increasingly doing the same.
ripe ivy
I think to a certain extent, it's also program developers just focusing on Cuda because of the market majority favoring Nvidia
OpenCL is kinda old so it lagging heavily behind is no surprise there
copper mason
Most of the stuff I use doesn't use CUDA though, it's using the RTX portion of the instruction set. That's what surprised me actually. I have ONE game with it - Quake II RTX - but at-least 3 of my productivity apps supported RTX the day I got the card almost a year ago. I bought this 2070 Thuper card first week of December last year when the Radeon Polaris driver bugs made me want to throw the PC out the side of the house. I figured spending 572$ was the better of two evils.
hazy glacier
Confused me a moment with the Thuper kek
ripe ivy
The driver bugs I experienced was occasional black screens with games and stuff like that, solved with a reset. Oh and certain games crashing like Nioh cause that game wasn't working nicely with the drivers at all more of a game dev problem there though
eternal locust
Wait you both seem like you're well versed on the topic, are most of the VR engines also still heavily optimized for Nvidia cards?
ripe ivy
I have no knowledge of VR optimization
copper mason
The Polaris driver bugs I was getting (only on Windows 10 btw), were shared by many others with Polaris. It acted like the card was defective. Here the card was clocking ABOVE it's stock factory clocks. It would have been fine if it was a better chip - but mine wasn't much of an overclocker. The card runs fine on an older Z97 Haswell PC with a 4790k in it and Windows 7 Pro. It would boost over it's clock speed max and become full of hitching and driver resets / crash to desktop issues and even once scrambled the desktop. That was without any overclocking (again, this is a production PC), without any overclocking apps (I installed monitoring software). Tried a bunch of different drivers, reported it on AMD's Reddit bugs page, no avail.
hazy glacier
Yeah, check out pc vr gaming if you can do that ig
ripe ivy
Though I do know Radeon is including USB-C on their new cards, and that's helpful for VR I guess?
copper mason
@hazy glacier Yeah I jokingly refer to it with a lisp as the '2070 Thuper' because the super part of the name is literally A STICKER on the cooler, and on the box. The rest of it is silk-screened or painted, however they put the letters on these days.
@eternal locust I have no knowledge on VR, only that some headsets now require FACEBOOK logins, and only one eye that reliably works, so I'm out of the VR demographic entirely.
@ripe ivy Yes, that supposedly for VR, and to keep up with competition by offering the same features (ports out).
hazy glacier
The Facebook thing iirc can be bypassed lol
hazy glacier
Some guy made some installable software for that
eternal locust
Stupid facebook
ripe ivy
I say forget it and get an Index or Vive
eternal locust
always tryna control everything
ripe ivy
They're probably better anyway
hazy glacier
Fingers, mm
copper mason
For offline mode the headset still has 'reduced functionality' but WILL function without Tracebook - I mean face book. Heh. They're really pushing this, and they're (Trace book) desperately trying to stay relevant... Couldn't pay me enough to make a login for that site or any social networking. Absolutely nothing good comes of that stuff. It's actually shown to make folks depressed.
So the new USB C ports on the AMD cards are there mostly 'because the competition is offering them' basically, and not much else. VR is a small subset of the demographic that buys video cards - even with enthusiasts. VR hasn't seemed to gain much market traction - nothing like 3DFX and PowerVR cards (not head sets) did back in 97~99 or so.
hazy glacier
Lol mining
copper mason
I believe the demographic that wants to use / user base that owns RTX and owns RTX cards is larger than VR demographic (user-base or those that want to use), by quite a bit - though don't quote me on that topic - there's a pretty big difference if everything I hear is correct.
copper mason
@hazy glacier Mining comes and goes. Dedicated cards for it came out and stifled a little bit of the demand, long after the damage was already done, sadly. A lot of Titan cards are people who don't want to get rid of it and people who use it for WORK and Play.
hazy glacier
The majority of it was for Linus’ 8x8 monitor setup or something
copper mason
Mining is somewhat coming back a bit, with the release of more compute-centric GPU cores, it always sees a bit of demand more due to ease of mining (power used / time used VS cost of a coin). Titan market-share always will be a fraction of 1% of gamers. It's just the cost alone, not necessarily the rarity of such a good GPU die yield.
Then when the mining market reflects the NEW cost / ease of making a coin / market saturation of miners wanting these cards, there's no longer a big win with going with mining, so that demand dies out not just due to saturation of the miner market but also due to the fact it's no longer as profitable now... all while the supply is going full throttle, so suddenly - as if overnight - it goes from no cards on the market new - to everyone having some.
So if a new GPU release comes out and it suddenly takes less time and power to mine a single coin in X amount of time, well that's a bit lucrative, much more than it was the week or month before. Eventually enough people get mining and the price adjusts with more and more people using new cards to do it. Then suddenly once the price is adjusted, it's now less lucrative / attractive to buy an expensive new card to do it. So then they're available again in typical retailer/e-tailer channels for the rest of us - Sometimes even with the scalpers sitting on inventory like a bunch of mother hens hoping their spoiled egg will hatch.
daring tusk
I love you too
eternal locust
same
copper mason
There's an upside to all that though. All those miner cards end up on the used market long out of warranty, for those who cannot afford a new card (or are in a market where income VS hardware costs is prohibitively out-of-reach for most folks). So for folks on the used or refurb channels, they can often game on the cheap (current examples are the plentiful amount of AMD Polaris cards floating around the market, scoring an 8gb-equpped still-fairly-competent 1080p card for a pittance).
The glut of used hardware has to go SOMEWHERE... but still, I don't appreciate the miners, bots, or scalpers snapping up all the new inventory when I'm looking to replace a card with "a driver that hated me" like I did last year. That's okay, replacing the card still came full circle in under a year with different driver issues but still the same end-result. Hopefully with intel entering the discrete GPU market, the other two get their act together. I've managed to work-around some of the crashes for the time-being.
limpid latch
alot with bios flash seam to be amd cards since price per performance
pulsar jasper
I have a noob question about graphics cards: Would I have to upgrade my CPU from an i5-6400 if I were to upgrade to say an 3060 (when it comes out) or a 3070 from a 1060?
keen notch
it would be good too but i don't think u have too
pulsar jasper
I have a pre-build machine but I just haven't upgrade anything before. I know you usually have to swap motherboards for cpus but I only have the budget for a new graphics card. :/
limpid latch
how old prebuilt
gotta see how the case is and fitment if you do upgrade cpu/motherboard
pulsar jasper
I've had it for 4 years now.
lone pond
You guys think the 6800xt will bottleneck with the 9600k
worn ivy
Does anyone know if the ROG Strix 6800xt will be releasing tomorrow?
pseudo gale
Likely not
limpid latch
believe its only the founders type model
arctic phoenix
@pulsar jasper what psu tho
hollow heath
Would I be able to OC my EVGA 2070 XC Ultra?
fluid star
fervent sedge
I passed a chance to get an aorus 3070 because I put in a back order for the MSI 3070.
pulsar jasper
@arctic phoenix 750W
humble hemlock
anyone knows when AMD goes live?
hollow heath
You tell me @stuck token
hazy glacier
Why not have taken both and gave the other to fren? @fervent sedge
Both had some sort of fee like shipping?
fervent sedge
I had to pay for the aorus
hazy glacier
Ah
hazy glacier
Oh?
fervent sedge
so yeah
and uh
they're only getting EVGA's
because they're the most popular
so they're getting more
so more people are ordering them, therefore they're getting more
wicked hound
only getting EVGA cuz popularity is pretty meh
fluid star
6800xt better than 3080 ?
dawn plover
yeah essentially
dawn plover
eh, i'd rather wait for reviews and such
lone pond
Hello, I have a motherboard A320M-HDV R4.0, with a AMD Ryzen 5 1400, and I want to upgrade my GPU from Radeon RX 570 Series, would you be able to recommend a graphic card that supports 144 hz monitors and it could be good for playing and streaming?
So what are we guessing for release time? Midnight tonight or 9am tomrorow like the CPUs did?
humble hemlock
will BB have in-store stock?
uneven flare
im looking at getting a 2060 right, and theres one thats a shorter one fan gpu for likr 300 and then a dual fan one for like 350. why is the dual fan more expensive is it going to have better performance or thermals?
hollow heath
Hm
night vault
@misty moss yes
Source: I own one
Just make sure to stay on a stable bios
And only update to a stable bios
I mean drivers
naive pebble
is the 2060 6gb okay to get 144fps on fortnite
chilly falcon
what resolution?
vivid sand
Hey can someone help recommend a new gpu to get. I have a asus strix rog 1080, was gonna look for a 3080(not happening as we all know) and im not sure where to go
opaque stratus
you can try get a 6800xt o wait for restock or keep watching ebay sometimes appear a nice good selling 30 series on retail prices
little slate
Anyone know if there will be any versions of 6800xt at launch with a waterblock preinstalled?
marsh charm
Doubt it
little slate
yes
little slate
not interested in an AiO
little slate
like how powercolor had the 5700 xt liquid devil
vivid sand
Idk if i should wait to get a 3080 or just try for the 6800xt
topaz furnace
Yea the asus rog strix comes with a pre water cooled installed version
Idk if i should wait to get a 3080 or just try for the 6800xt
@vivid sand
I was first going to go for the 3080 but once I saw the RDNA 2 launch and think ima go from the 6800xt
little slate
I can only find their AiO cooled version, I'm just looking for a card I can add to my waterloop
topaz furnace
I think you can strip the founders edition and find a eater block
vivid sand
whats RDNA 2 im sorry im still relatively fresh to this stuff
topaz furnace
The new gpu architecture
vivid sand
ok
topaz furnace
For amd
vivid sand
does amd have anything like the rtx noise shit?
topaz furnace
Wym?
little slate
I was hoping to avoid having to do that, like EVGA has a 3080 and 3090 coming with a water block already installed, and it's only $50 more than a regular version
topaz furnace
I think stock its already relatively quiet
topaz furnace
Also 6800 and 6800xt is coming out tmr
little slate
but it only works with nvidia cards
vivid sand
damn
little slate
well it's supposed to only work with RTX cards, but there's a way around that
not going to lie, I completely forgot about rtx voice, I use it all the time because it filters out my mechanical keyboard noise
topaz furnace
@little slate correct me if I'm wrong but (never done custom water cooling) you have to strip your gpu if it doesn't come with a water block right, and then buy your own?
vivid sand
I stream and i wanna eliminate the keyboard
little slate
@little slate correct me if I'm wrong but (never done custom water cooling) you have to strip your gpu if it doesn't come with a water block right, and then buy your own?
@topaz furnace That's correct
vivid sand
also it bugs out my buddy has it and he joins the discord and his mic is at max peak
topaz furnace
Epic
hazy glacier
Wish some would use it cause yeah, mech keyboard is loud as hell
little slate
I would highly suggest trying rtx voice if you use discord while gaming a lot
it was honestly mindblowing when I first tried it
and I use it with a 1080ti
vivid sand
I have a 1080
little slate
supposedly it's better with an RTX card, or more that it doesn't take as much of a performance hit on your card
vivid sand
I need a new card
little slate
you have to "modify" the rtx voice slightly to use it with a non RTX card
but it's super simple to do
remote cargo
if i have a 5600x will a 6800 work better?
hazy glacier
Yeah
little slate
according to AMD yes
remote cargo
k
hazy glacier
Any Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000) CPU with RX 6000 GPUs are supposed to be pretty good when you have the features on
Like RAGE mode and uhhhhh
idk what else lmao I forgot
topaz furnace
Ryzen cpu with radeon gpu have like 13% better performance
With smart access memory
vivid sand
So should i just try for a card tomorrow?
little slate
I'm running a heavily overclocked 8700k, so I don't think I'll be switching to AMD just yet
topaz furnace
Do you have a ryzen cpu?
vivid sand
ryzen 7 3700x
hazy glacier
I have a 2070 Super, so I probably will see myself upgrading to the 6800XT
topaz furnace
Then yea I would try to get an amd card tmr
little slate
what do you play senko, and at what resolution?
topaz furnace
Bc 3000 series Nvidia won't restock for a while
vivid sand
yeah
remote cargo
i see that a lot of people are upgrading to a 6800xt, why?
vivid sand
im pissed i wanted a strix 3080 bad i didnt think they would be gone like that
little slate
because nvidia can't keep their cards in stock, and supposedly the 6800xt will be better than a 3080 for the same price
hazy glacier
I'm planning to grab a 1440p 144hz as soon as possible I guess, so yeah lol
what I play, kinda not sure
remote cargo
is it worth me getting a 6800
misty moss
So with all them driver updates still the 5700xt be as good as a 3070 in the future?
little slate
a 2070 super is plenty for 1440p 144hz though
hazy glacier
Warzone seems to be the interest atm ig
remote cargo
i wanted a 3070
misty moss
Or can it only go so far
hazy glacier
Yeah, just that it's tempting
topaz furnace
Actually idk if 3rd gen ryzen supports smart access memory
little slate
there's no way in hell a 5700xt will be as good as a 3070
a 3070 performs on par with 2080ti
vivid sand
idk what any of that means
topaz furnace
Actually idk if 3rd gen ryzen supports smart access memory @vivid sand
misty moss
I want a 3070 but yk
topaz furnace
Doubt it
topaz furnace
Yea sorry
vivid sand
so should i not get it?
topaz furnace
So
misty moss
Do you think they will be in stock by Christmas tho
topaz furnace
Nvidia won't get back in stock till next year
little slate
what do you currently have @vivid sand
topaz furnace
This what they said I think
hazy glacier
All the new features you've seen from AMD recently are only available for Zen 3 and the RX 6000 series
topaz furnace
Yea i see
vivid sand
Asus strix rog 1080, ryzen 7 3700x @little slate
little slate
so a 6800xt should be a pretty big upgrade for you
hazy glacier
Yeah
little slate
but it's really your choice whether you want to upgrade yet or not
vivid sand
Im overdue
hazy glacier
Get it if the GTX 1080 isn't doing well anymore for you
topaz furnace
Rx 6000 series competes with Nvidia with the 6800xt and 6900xt and they are cheaper and consume less power (20w) lezs
little slate
we also don't have any real world benchmarks for the 6800xt
dreamy dragonBOT
Samgwee#7951 has been warned
little slate
I'd say the biggest worry for me with AMD is their drivers
vivid sand
why
little slate
the 5700xt should've killed the 2070/2070 super
little slate
but in the real world its performance was inconsistent
and drivers were poor
yeah but how long did it take them?
hazy glacier
But I hear they're still not that good for some people, but that's prob cause they haven't removed the older driver versions
topaz furnace
Rx 6000 series is cheaper except for the 6800 and compete with Nvidia and sometimes beat them (they trade wins) at 20w less power consumption
little slate
and how will the drivers do with the 6k series being brand new, and way different
vivid sand
imma just wait then screw it
hazy glacier
They're having it on the PS5 and Xbox Series X, so they've got to be good with the drivers
little slate
if you aren't dying for an upgrade, it's a safe option to wait for reviews
but then you risk them being out of stock like nvidia cards
senko they've had AMD GPUs in consoles for several generations now
hazy glacier
Eh, I think AMD won't have that problem with low stock high demand too much
vivid sand
i dont wanna drop how ever much it is for it to have driver issues
stoic folio
Cyberpunk 2077 
hazy glacier
Release date: 2077
hazy glacier
7/7/77
topaz furnace
@vivid sand idk amd is looking really good and the 6800xt is $50 cheaper than the 3080 and competes and beats it sometimes (trade wins) also at less power consumption. Up to u tbh. Also amd got Ray tracing
vivid sand
fair
daring tusk
but wht is the 6800 competung against
daring tusk
seems odd
hazy glacier
Probably 3070 or a 3070 Ti
hazy glacier
Might just be like between 3070 and 3080 perf idk
Eh, honestly the price ain't so bad for its performance so w/e
remote cargo
its suposedly crushes the 3070
daring tusk
not for the same price tho
remote cargo
yeah
daring tusk
so not direct competitor
remote cargo
ye
hazy glacier
Maybe it's just for like lower res, and 6800XT is for a higher res like widescreens such as G9
vivid sand
Anyone know if the third party cards are coming out tomorrow along side founders?
@topaz furnace @little slate
night vault
I would say so
id hope they would figure out stock
if anything id rather then push release a couple weeks past planned for us to have stock
remote cargo
they legit postposed 3070 launch date and still couldnt fix the stock issies
night vault
im currently using the 5700xt and can tell you that it is a weird card. its all good aslong as you get a decent model with thermals and stay on a stable bios
topaz furnace
@topaz furnace @little slate
@vivid sand
Yes?
night vault
but im on the current stable bios and cannot launch civ 6 in dx12 mode without it crashing
vivid sand
Anyone know if the third party cards are coming out tomorrow along side founders? @topaz furnace
vivid sand
-_-
topaz furnace
But other aib's will be out i think
Idk for sure about asus tho
I either want the asus strix (air cooled) or the msi gaming x trio if out of stock, if those are gone ill just go with founders edition
vivid sand
founders is my last resort i really wanna get a third party
watch with my luck my ips will take a dump on me tomorrow
buoyant stone
What is the 6800 supposedly compared to. What other graphics card?
ripe ivy
It sits solidly between both in performance and price the 3070 and 3080, at least based on what's out there right now
Allegedly it's capable of overclocking to 2.5Ghz, it's closer to the 3080 than the 3070 knowing that and assuming it's true
civic harbor
Does anybody have any idea if AMD or Nvidia is planning to release any 200-300 dollar cards.
night vault
id assume a 6600 6500 and 6700 line will come out
with their xt variants
i have no clue about nvidia though
night vault
im going to buy a 3060ti if/when it comes out for like 400-450$
or however much its going to be
civic harbor
Yeah if nothing cheaper comes out I might get that
winged granite
1k at this rate
ripe ivy
Um don't know when it's "launching" but I would guess a 3060 might be like $300 or so
civic harbor
Yeah thats what i was originally thinking until AMD announced how good theirs would be
toxic topaz
is ryzen 5 2600 good?
ripe ivy
I would say so as someone that uses one, but at this point it would greatly depend on the price if it's worth it
limpid latch
So who's all waiting at micro centers
I bet theres lines
Kid I know sent me this pic ugh kinda upsets me he flips cards
It makes me mad hah
humble hemlock
heard micro is limiting to in store and one per household now, should help campers a little lol
red leaf
yo guys quick question which combo is better 3600 1660 super or 3100 rtx 2060 non super
these r the only 2 i can afford i’m not lookin for suggestions on other parts just need to know which is better
pseudo gale
I’d recommend 3600 1660 super
analog field
red leaf
@pseudo gale is there a reason i’m just tryna know
cuz like i agree too but it’s cuz everyone is telling me that
pseudo gale
6 cores is a good sweet spot
red leaf
it’s also better for future upgrades right?
pseudo gale
And 1660 super isn’t that mich worse than the 2060
And yes
Way better for future upgraded
red leaf
ok good thanks 😊
steel smelt
Is the 1660 Super solid for Ultra 1080 gaming? Was looking at that or the 5600xt
red leaf
5600xt is better but i personally like the 1660 super cuz it’s cheaper and i’m nvidia typa guy
1660 super i saw benchmarks it should be able to handle most games at ultra with 60 fps
really depends on the game
pseudo gale
I like nvida’s software more but if the hardware performance was good enough i’d go amd
fervent sedge
@limpid latch I honestly could've done the same today as I was offered an aorus 3070 instead of my MSI gaming x trio 3070. But it's not worth it and it's a risky business
clear pier
I just want a 3070 or 3080 of any kind for a build and I would even be fine paying 100 above msrp
I really want it over the 2070
steel smelt
The 5600xt and the 1660 supers that I have been looking at all float around 300 which is my budget. Not sure If I should snatch one up or cross my fingers that a 2060 goes on sale next week
tepid bough
@steel smelt I doubt they will do anything substantial. They have been sold out as well.
dapper sundial
@steel smelt the rx 5600xt is similar to rtx 2060 in games. There is sale for $240ish i think
jovial goblet
youre better off getting a 5600xt instead of a 1660 super
lone matrix
What’s a good card for a 750 USD budget?
dapper sundial
@lone matrix rx 5600xt will be around $250 so that leaves you with $500 for other parts
steel smelt
@dapper sundial mind if I ask you where that sale is at?
lone matrix
I was leaning more Nvidia @dapper sundial
fervent obsidian
750 total budget for pc? probably like 1660s or something
dapper sundial
@lone matrix if you have a decent population in your town you might be able to get a used 1070 for $200 which is the same performance as a 1660super
lone matrix
Nah I just like the features better
dense prairie
anyone know of any good deals on cards right now
dapper sundial
amd has a features to to clip my brother has amd and he can record clips
night vault
yea radeon has all the same things and arguebly better as it has much more indepth performance metrics at the tip of oyur fingers
ive used nividia for a the 960 and my 1060 and i have an AMD now
lone matrix
Doesn’t AMD have a lot of driver problems?
night vault
and i enjoy it much better
dense prairie
they used to
dapper sundial
@lone matrix i have add 2 amd and one nvidia card and never had any issues
night vault
they used to but i havent had driver issues aslong as i've stayed on a stable version, which they will tell you
just saying that the only real benefit to nividias 1660s vs 5600xt is nvenc encoder
dense prairie
guys do you know of any good deals on graphics cards
night vault
#675035372253741092 often has some
dapper sundial
@dense prairie the $350 rx 5700xt is good deal
dense prairie
i do not have that much money
i'm trying to upgrade my 1660
but i don't think i could sell it
pseudo gale
Graphics cards are way over priced rn
dense prairie
true
pseudo gale
I personally am going to wait a few months for prices to regulate
Plus new low end cards will come out
Leaks show a 3060 ti matching a 2080 super for $300 or less
Though not confirmed
dense prairie
yeah but those will get scalped, right?
pseudo gale
Oh my bad
brisk flame
i thought it was gonna be 400
450 is bad price, because then you have the cost of third party cards that are more than 50 dollars over msrp competing with the 3070
and thats just weird
night vault
yea i agree, i was going off some old pcgamer article
havent looked at recent leaks
399 is sick then
limpid latch
All will scalp I'm sure esp if limited quantities
fossil talon
I have bots ready for tomorrow, watch them not work
fervent sedge
This question is for people that purchased the MSI 3070 gaming x trio. How long did it take for it to arrive via backorder for you?
dense prairie
@fossil talon you are a bad person.
serene spoke
hi guys do you know if newegg have say the time when the AMD Radeon 6800 will be available for buy?
fossil talon
Not scalping, only getting one card for personal usage
There's honestly no other way to compete online for it without bots, there's several discord servers developing and sharing bots
dense prairie
link
bright widget
fight fire w/ fire
fossil talon
All will scalp I'm sure esp if limited quantities
@limpid latch
Rumors are pointing out less stock than 3080 release
fight fire w/ fire
@bright widget
Honestly true at this point
serene spoke
oh damn i hope not
dense prairie
@fossil talon link
fossil talon
Oh for the bot discord?
dense prairie
yes
dreamy dragonBOT
mcg_mm8#6969 has been warned
dense prairie
bruh
fossil talon
Oh Ill dm
dense prairie
ok
fossil talon
There's plenty more servers just search them online or go onto GitHub to find some
Note bots will have a large chance of failing on Newegg (ik it's ironic saying this on this server)
steel smelt
any news on if Newegg is using s special link for the 6800's tomorrow?
like with then 5600's?
fossil talon
Waiting for that as well
limpid latch
lol well last time they had special link those didnt even load
fossil talon
Waiting for my family friend to tell me the stock in my local store
limpid latch
im sure the microcenters have it all setup already for tomorrow
and people are probably already camped out
limpid latch
online only
random spruce
I’m in Canada it’s so bad here
limpid latch
they prob will drop ship from their warehouse
fossil talon
Best Buy Canada is likely online. I'm waiting for Memory Express to tell me
random spruce
True
limpid latch
microcenter atleast for usa will be only walk in
fossil talon
Canada Computers will also be in person (no online)
random spruce
Oh fr
limpid latch
you may need to go camp out there sunbreaker
fossil talon
Likely similar to the 3070 release
limpid latch
like hrs ago
random spruce
Heck nah
fossil talon
It's -15°C where I am rn
limpid latch
when will we get real reviews
fossil talon
And snowing
limpid latch
lol well better get cozy n a fire started
fossil talon
I'm close to Memory Express main distribution centre in Canada
fossil talon
Hence I know some stock supplies
random spruce
Heck noooo
limpid latch
was 5th in line on a sunday and they had 5 asus tuf 3080, wouldnt sell 5th held it for a customer defect exchange
fossil talon
Oof
random spruce
Wwwwow
limpid latch
id have told them to send it to asus blah
fossil talon
So for best buy Canada, they open the website a min before actual sales, you just need to refresh at the perfect moment (that's how I got the 3070FE)
fossil talon
Newegg will likely crash with all the bots and visitors
random spruce
They’re releasing
random spruce
@ Newegg do better
fossil talon
Oh nvm 9AM EST
random spruce
Omg
fossil talon
Newegg and AMD apparently twitted it
abstract seal
Best Buy kept crashing on me for 3080 and 3070 releases. I dunno if I even care to try again
random spruce
I’m gonna stay up just to not be able u to get it
limpid latch
yep
fossil talon
Vancouver?
random spruce
YEP
fossil talon
Rip time zones
random spruce
😭😭
abstract seal
Yeah lol am I gonna wake up 2 hours before work to be sad?
limpid latch
or ppl can wait till dec for hydrocopper and hybrid 3000
random spruce
I’ve literally had all my parts for 2 months +
fossil talon
Best Buy kept crashing on me for 3080 and 3070 releases. I dunno if I even care to try again
@abstract seal
US best buy had multiple troubles. Best Buy Canada was actually running smoothly
random spruce
Been waiting for a stupiiid gpu
fossil talon
or ppl can wait till dec for hydrocopper and hybrid 3000
@limpid latch
True or the RTX 30s Tis
abstract seal
@fossil talon I am sad American
limpid latch
yea ti's too
fossil talon
I heard stories, best of luck @abstract seal
abstract seal
I'm in WA, maybe I can have it shipped to the boarder lmao
limpid latch
im stuck w/ a 3090 soo cant go back now lol
fossil talon
I'm in WA, maybe I can have it shipped to the boarder lmao
@abstract seal
Lol VATS, and other fees given the value of the cards makes shipping actually expensive
abstract seal
dam, no hope for me. my 970 will have to keep on chuggin
limpid latch
id prob drop down to a 3080 unless i get my dang waterblock shipped
lone pond
you literally think we need to camp?
i plan to drive to microcenter in the morning 2 hours before they open
limpid latch
yea u need to camp liite
i bet you anything if i drive by one thats 15min away ppl are waiting
fossil talon
Yep
limpid latch
either way tho, i dont believe the hype and numbers, i wanna see real reviews prob wont be till like what 6am
fossil talon
There's probably people camping overnight
Taking the risk and buying it. In the end, both the 3070 and RX 6800/6800XT are super rare, I can easily resell the one I'm not using
rose adder
lol people will buy it before watching the review
it will be sold out before you can actually interpret the benchmarks
steel smelt
The thing is though that, IMO, the 6800 non XT should have been 500 at 580 it's worth just spending the extra cash to get the 6800xt. They are less than $100 from each other for a big differance (apparently).
lone pond
i dunno
im slightly discouraged with seeing people camp out
you think it will be on sale at amazon ?
i want a sapphire 6800xt 😐
fossil talon
I agree, they should of created a much greater price gap between non XT and XT
fossil talon
It will be on sale on Amazon, just don't know when
And yes Amazon is targeted with bots
dreamy dragonBOT
Captain_Sisko#2185 has been warned
rose adder
amazon literally doesn't care about bots
to them this launch is barely a drop in the bucket
fossil talon
9AM EST
lone pond
and no reason to wake up at 6 am to make it to micro at 7 just to be waiting 2 hours for them to open
damn
online as well ?
eternal locust
What's gonna be everyone's best bet for tmrw? Best buy?
rose adder
newegg usually releases before best buy
deft lake
dont bestbuy
steel smelt
I'm going Newegg if they have a link like for the 5600's
lone pond
welp
deft lake
they web will be shutdown soon
lone pond
iv decided not to drive to microcenter
lone pond
discouraged 😐
eternal locust
Best buy has a que system
rose adder
at the end of the day even with bot protection most people won't get one
simply because of the demand
steel smelt
true, but half the fun is trying
steel smelt
might try the manufacture sites
eternal locust
Yeah whole lotta fun
rose adder
and it's important to keep perspective that gaming gpu's are a luxury product
eternal locust
Literally it's all an expensive hobby
random spruce
What about Best Buy Canada
eternal locust
Or a side hustle
deft lake
what time? 6 am ?
rose adder
6am PT
lone pond
I dunno
steel smelt
9am EST
lone pond
microcenter wont pick up the damn phone
eternal locust
Tbh the 6800 lil outta my price range but imma try for one tmrw with the expectation of not getting it
lone pond
i just wanted to ask if people were outfront yet lol
rose adder
@eternal locust don't impulse buy just because it is in high demand
eternal locust
I mean it's still a good card I'd like to have one
steel smelt
@eternal locust if you get one I'll take get it off you and pay for shipping lol
eternal locust
Yeah? I'd be okay with that @steel smelt
fossil talon
Best Buy Canada, you have a chance
Newegg and Amazon I won't count on it, but still try
rose adder
im not a mod or anything but I think ur not supposed to buy/sell on this server
eternal locust
It'd be private
jovial goblet
rule 9 my guy
fossil talon
Yep^
rose adder
I'm just saying if you get scammed on this server there is no recourse
fossil talon
Honestly, I don't know why people try selling on servers, it's alot more safe and reliable within local privates
steel smelt
lads, we're just chatting hence the lol 🙂
I'm working on my new rig and it's a sleeper build inside a late 90's IBM case. Already grabbed everything I need including a 5600x, just hoping to top it off with 6800 series
rose adder
if you wanted to do it safely you could list it on ebay and sell it through there, although you would end up paying some transaction fees
eternal locust
Lmao yoooo a 90 ibm case that really is a sleeper how's the air flow tho?
fossil talon
eBay is still sketchy, I have friends getting screwed over by the buyer via PayPal
Best is e-transfer locally
Also some sellers runnaway with the money despite eBay money back guaranteed
fossil talon
Yea before its honestly fine. However, given the latest hype and popularity, scams are more prominent
steel smelt
@eternal locust the only thing I need to do is make room for a 92mm exhaust fan. The front is actuall pretty good for it. Plus im hidding 2 60mm fans where the flappy should be and a 3 stack of 40mm where the dvd writer would be. All the fans are going to be hidden though and Noctua, including the CPU cooler, to keep it nice and quiet.
stuck pollen
From my understanding yes it would be worth spending the extra 70$ if you're able to afford it
fossil talon
Yes go for the XT
burnt parcel
im so scared
the thought of seeing the buy now button and then it vanishing in .2 seconds
i hope so
limpid latch
have sites ready logged in
limpid latch
make sure everything is setup already so you can quick checkout
burnt parcel
i managed to snag a 5800x processor on the b&h preorder
fossil talon
Nice
burnt parcel
so hopefully i get the same luck
8
lol
better than the 4 cores i have now
yes
i do that on this one
im using an old i7 4770
fossil talon
My local store is the distribution centre for a company in Canada, they had so many yet so little amounts of Ryzen 5000 series. By the time I was there, there were only 25 out of 100 R5 5600x left
burnt parcel
im guessing you got it
fossil talon
Yes I have it in hand
eternal locust
@steel smelt interesting hey if it keeps it all cool then that's what matters
fossil talon
I have everything for my PC build except ram and storage
fossil talon
I7 4770 stills runs today
burnt parcel
its like 200 still
fossil talon
It's not like old technology is bad
burnt parcel
but it could be better
fossil talon
There's been a misconception that you should have the best of the best technology
In reality, you are spending more money than you need to
burnt parcel
whats the best application to look at whats in your system
steel smelt
well price to performance is a big thing though. With the 6800 being on 70 less than the 6800xt, and the 6800 being 80 more than the 3070, it's hard to see why to get one. I think anyway.
burnt parcel
cause i didnt exactly build my current one, its an old office computer with an upgraded power supply and graphics card
hollow heath
Lol
fossil talon
Pour some liquid nitrogen and see how far you can push it 🤣
Do I hear 3.5 and smoke
burnt parcel
i7-4770
Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC LP
2x6gb DDR3 1600
so not terrible
runs pretty much anything
yeah thats the one thing i added
besides a better power supply
its got some random motherboard
Lenovo Sharkbay
mmmm
Intel Q87 (Lynx Point)
thats the chipset
i guess
raven fog
where could i find the 6800xt because i can't find it in bestbuy, newegg, etc
raven fog
yeh but there should be a listing out tho
like the 3070
to show where it is on the website
fossil talon
They haven't leaked it yet. I assume within the next 1-3 hrs they will
raven fog
alright
sounds good
do you know what i should search up to find it?
yeah it's not there
fossil talon
Honestly reddit
hoary forge
T-11hrs 15 mins till 6800 launch!!! #Hypee
fossil talon
There's people who probably spends hours searching for them already
ripe ivy
They'll be listed by 9AM EST
raven fog
i live 10 minutes away from a microcenter but my parents won't let me camp there
fossil talon
My Build is either this Saturday or Next week depending if I get the RX series. If not I'll keep my 3070FE
hoary forge
@fossil talon I’ve spent many hours on Reddit Twitter and more looking for anything on the new cards
hoary forge
Surprised how well amd has been able to keep this one quiet tbh
burnt parcel
raven fog
yeah lol
raven fog
hopefully
burnt parcel
i have a different one in there as a placeholder
hoary forge
I just wanna know the confirmed Canadian pricing lol
raven fog
bruh scalpers gonna go for the 6800xt more than the 3080 now and im happy
noctua is good
burnt parcel
noctua is good
ive heard great things
i asked about air cooling on the pc part picker forums and i was told this was a good recommended one
noctua is a good like 40 bucks more tho is it not?
fossil talon
I just wanna know the confirmed Canadian pricing lol
@hoary forge
Probably $10-20 more than US-CAD conversion
hoary forge
Yea I expect it to be 779.99 ish cad for the 6800
high magnet
Hi everyone. Any idea at what time the amd gpus launching?
ripe ivy
Yes
fossil talon
Yea I expect it to be 779.99 ish cad for the 6800
@hoary forge
I would say the same
burnt parcel
but idk
high magnet
9 am est
@burnt parcel
Thanks!
fossil talon
If you have the money and your mobo supports, why not have have 4400mhz lol
fossil talon
OC Ram is so useful
burnt parcel
no, but theres a discord chat for it
fossil talon
If you know how to
burnt parcel
i know
fossil talon
Have you guys seen the pricing for 5000mhz ram
burnt parcel
if i did go down i would get 3800
fossil talon
It's insane
fossil talon
You don't want to know even 😂
burnt parcel
whats the point of that
fossil talon
Graphics card or ram hmmmmmmm
dreamy dragonBOT
meteor not kirby#9213 has been warned
raven fog
i mean bestbuy's got that "Please Wait" thing to prevent scalpers from buying it too quick
oh shoot wrong chat lol
fossil talon
Or get 3200mhz, heatsinks, and active cooling and OC to 5000 😂
Actually I never got the Please wait thing from best buy
It immediately went to my cart and I bought it within a min
fossil talon
For boot drives, I recommended Samsung Evo or Evo Pro and WD Black SN750
burnt parcel
love how the gpu just says 6800
fossil talon
Are arctic sold out everywhere at this point
I've been searching everywhere for regular msrp
fossil talon
Gamer Nexus and other YouTubers have been promoting them afterall
When the only arctic product you own is the Arctic MX-4
burnt parcel
im using the sk hynix as my boot drive tho
fossil talon
I don't remember if team has dram cache
burnt parcel
lol
brisk flame
kicks ass for the price
fossil talon
Oh nice I totally forgot about this one. Totally recommend
brisk flame
am yello
brisk flame
5600x is solid, the LF2 is a real good AIO
warm venture
Anyone looking for a 3070 FE?
burnt parcel
id recommend you guys check b&h photo from like 12-2 est for the new graphics cards
brisk flame
3600 CL16 is standard for Zen 2, but we dont know much about how Zen 3 likes its memory speeds
fossil talon
Say hi
burnt parcel
big daddy
hoary forge
@lone pond I’d not get a B series motherboard
fossil talon
My hands are greasy, the plastic cover is dirty(my bad)
brisk flame
according to amd tho, they are saying that FCLK will be able to clock to 2000mhz with future agesa updates
brisk flame
so theres a chance that 3800 or 4000 may be the move
ripe ivy
So 4000Mhz RAM is good to go basically
brisk flame
however, it totally depends on the price
fossil talon
I'm just going 3600 and ocing
brisk flame
as of now, 3600 is ideal
burnt parcel
yes
ripe ivy
That'll be the best price/performance pretty much
burnt parcel
or you can join me @lone pond
brisk flame
however amd is on record saying that FCLK should be able to go farther in the future with agesa updates
fossil talon
Tomorrow will decide the fate of this card
burnt parcel
kick it
ripe ivy
YEET
fossil talon
Good luck everyone on the RX 6800/6800XT tomorrow
brisk flame
4400 is definetly too much
burnt parcel
placeholder
brisk flame
4000 is gonna be the supposed max, but as of right now, 3600 is still the ideal max
burnt parcel
im going 6800xt bb
The Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1.35 V+7% (1.444 V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.35 V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum. 👀
hazy glacier
Nah
stoic folio
430£ good for a 2070s
hazy glacier
3600MHz CAS16 is like 10ms
brisk flame
if you wanna get 4000 and temporarily downclock then you can
hazy glacier
Why 4GHz tho
Eh
Yeah fair enough
Nah, I think that's just for like, getting the most out of the CPU
It can start to drop off at much faster speeds though
hazy glacier
Like not increase, but just go lower in performance iirc
But I mean, 4Ghz is fine ig
ripe ivy
It's called a diminishing return 
hazy glacier
Yeah, I can't remember words
burnt parcel
@brisk flame The Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1.35 V+7% (1.444 V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.35 V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum. 👀
little slate
ugh it's so frustrating that the benchmark NDA is launch of the cards...
ripe ivy
That's how it always is unfortunately
brisk flame
the DDR4 spec voltage range is from 1.2 to like 1.5
stoic folio
430£ good for a 2070s
brisk flame
so any voltage in that range is fine
warm venture
If someone out there "settled" for a 6800XT because they couldn't get an Nvidia card, I'd trade them my 3070 😆
brisk flame
also, 4400 mt/s ram is not good for ryzen
burnt parcel
i plan on lowering it @brisk flame
warm venture
some people only like nvidia, so for someone out there, anything AMD might be settling (hence the quote marks)
brisk flame
fyi, the 6800xt is only 80 dollars more than the 6800
hazy glacier
70$ ish or something
burnt parcel
thought it was 70 more
brisk flame
580 to 650?
hazy glacier
Price never stays the same tho
stoic folio
I have 600£ but I live in Uk 
@lone pond
brisk flame
im just dum in the head
hazy glacier
😔
warm venture
650 is base price. Mark my words, some retailers will have it listed for more.
brisk flame
not all third party cards will be more than msrp
hazy glacier
^
hazy glacier
Don't all the RTX 3000 go twice the price cause lol?
550$ for 3070 ain't that bad imo
stoic folio
Pc World does not have any 3070 in stock since they launch and the prices jack up
spiral charm
when are 6800xt dropping tmrw
like what time
hazy glacier
I mean, you need board to support speed, good VRM
Etc.
Not a 200$ X570
Doesn't let my RAM go past 3333Mhz
Could be RAM itself idk
brisk flame
so, april is like 5 months from now, literally anything can happen, any list you make will be outdated very quickly
steel smelt
do B&H Photo charge you when you pre-order or when product is shipped?
brisk flame
i would say just dont think about it
hazy glacier
^
burnt parcel
when you preorder @steel smelt
steel smelt
lmae
brisk flame
then like whenever youre ready to buy, planning takes like literally less than half an hour
hazy glacier
imo just get normal 3600Mhz CAS15 with 5800X and 6800XT
stoic folio
And also if I did get a rtx3070 or rx 6800 I would have to upgrade my cpu and ram and maybe my psu
steel smelt
Yeah, wait till atleast march to see what the market is like. Prices are going all over the place right now, and are going to only get more out of whack with these new cards.
burnt parcel
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
hazy glacier
I have ASUS TUF lole
stoic folio
And I have no gpu right now
hazy glacier
Like I said, past 3333MHz is a joke to my RAM
So I'm stuck in 3200MHz CAS16
If you're gonna go for 4GHz RAM, get a more expensive board
One that has good VRM
I have it
My RAM won't go past 3333MHz
:)
It could be just a bad board or RAM
But idk yet
Ye, ik
yeah RAM could be a lol
Supposed to have been good, should be good enough for me to at least go 3600MHz CAS16
But yeah lol
dreamy dragonBOT
Scorptic#1329 has been warned
compact grail
What is a good graphics card
fossil talon
My RAM won't go past 3333MHz
@hazy glacier
Disable XMP, and see if you can clock your ram via bios
hazy glacier
What resolution and refresh rate @compact grail
stoic folio
But hopefully Black Friday or cyber Monday Juicy deals
fossil talon
I wish, Black Friday in the US are actual sales. Canadian black Friday is ok
burnt parcel
im only doing 144hz 1080p👀
fossil talon
......keep borders closed for a bit. Let's try to reduce or handle this pandemic
burnt parcel
lmao
hazy glacier
Nah you dislike US people lole
fossil talon
I mean yeah, the amount of cases are scary ngl
stoic folio
I’m uk
fossil talon
#1
burnt parcel
NUMBER 1 NUMBER 1
hazy glacier
We're also #1 in best prices
hazy glacier
Very cool
topaz furnace
Hey guys, do you know what time the amd 6000 series come out tmr?
brisk flame
yall gotta remember no politikin here
burnt parcel
9 am
hazy glacier
I've no money for an RX 6000 or even a 1440p 144hz IPS
burnt parcel
i had enough money
topaz furnace
Only the founders edition?
topaz furnace
Or some aibs?
burnt parcel
so i had to get a loan from my dad lmao
ripe ivy
AIBs are rolling out in the next week
stoic folio
But I don’t think am going to buy newer parts for now maybe it till next year or in 2
topaz furnace
ALL aibs?
fossil talon
....watch me Jerry rig a 3070/RX 6800XT build 😂
ripe ivy
The only thing launching are Reference AMD models
Not all, but that's when they're starting
fossil talon
I wish Gigabyte would make a vision model of the RX 6000s
topaz furnace
So some aibs come out tmr?
ripe ivy
Forget all that, Sapphire Toxic is where it's at 
ripe ivy
Starting November 25
rose adder
I'm not getting a gpu
hazy glacier
Coming to theatres nov 25
rose adder
happy with my 2070 super
ripe ivy
That's when some of the AIB cards will be available
rose adder
wishing eveyrone here luck
fossil talon
there's a 32 inch 1440p 144 monitor that's flat then there's a 27 inch 1440 144 that's curved
@lone pond
Depends on the width of your desk. Buy a monitor that's not to big nor too small for you desk
topaz furnace
Do you guys know which AIBS some out tmr?
ripe ivy
Honestly though the reference design looks good, it won't be a bad choice. Might even be better than some of the AIB options
hazy glacier
^
fossil talon
Oh lol
topaz furnace
Will it be as good as the asus strix (air cooled) or the msi gaming x trio?
fossil talon
Hmmm are they the same price, the monitors
topaz furnace
Those r the ones I'm looking at
ripe ivy
Have you seen it?
topaz furnace
Yes
fossil talon
Like curve is easier on your eyes and flat is larger
fossil talon
That's a hard decision ngl