were you guys upset at the 2080ti when you spent 1000 - 1500 for it ?
#graphics-cards
orchid plume
SirUnsaintly... Ok, thanks.... will my i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 cores, 8 processors run a 5700xt ?
hasty shore
was the 3080 back in stock at all since drop date
steel smelt
@lone pond you in line on a Monday?
fossil talon
was the 3080 back in stock at all since drop date
@hasty shore
Periodically
hasty shore
ok
fossil talon
Just keep being in wait lists
fossil talon
Some cards are being pulled off the network due to extremely scarce supply. Check EVGA website
hasty shore
?
lone pond
I am going to go there at like 6 am maybe on wednesday
hasty shore
where
lone pond
micro
hasty shore
noice
fossil talon
The FEs are honestly impossible at this point unless you pay scalper pricing
hasty shore
why
gusty cave
Will the 3rd party amd cards release on the 18th?
fossil talon
Nvidia didn't make enough, and production are still down due to the pandemic
hasty shore
true
fossil talon
Yes the RX 6800/6800 XT are coming out this Wednesday
fossil talon
Honestly there so many factors deciding either, I can't really tell you either
lone pond
Im getting that 6800xt for sure
never will i support nvidia pricing
ever :/
I want the 6900xt but i cant wait til the 8th
lol
hasty shore
i want a 3080
fossil talon
Like I'm still deciding on whether to sell my 3070FE at this point. If I get the 6800/6800XT, then maybe
fossil talon
I know that this release will be as hard as the Nvidia release
hasty shore
i dont hvae a gpuu
lone pond
on both setups
fossil talon
Super competitive and millions of bots
hasty shore
yes
lone pond
you think if i stand inline at lke 7 or 8 am on wednesday at microcenter
i can get one ?
hasty shore
they should try and block bots if thats even possible
fossil talon
More like overnight
hasty shore
yeah
lone pond
Damn you think it will be that busy
fossil talon
The 3070/3080/3090 had overnight lines
hasty shore
the micro center by me people slept over night
fossil talon
The RXs series won't be different
eager saffron
Like I'm still deciding on whether to sell my 3070FE at this point. If I get the 6800/6800XT, then maybe
@fossil talon did you use a bot to get it
lone pond
damnit
fossil talon
they should try and block bots if thats even possible
@hasty shore
Yea, the thing is there's always a backend door for programmers
lone pond
i dont wanan stand out there at night
hasty shore
i was talking to one of the employes that was there on launch day and someone made a fire
lone pond
LOL
fossil talon
Oh no, my bots failed actually. I got the 3070FE manually within 30s of release on best buy
opaque stratus
5700xt doens't come with ray tracing, yes?
hasty shore
i think
fossil talon
I created my own using python
hasty shore
nice
weary flax
@fossil talon uh yea so what pisses me off is that I literally had it in my cart when it just said "whelp you're not getting one"
lone pond
yeah
barren fern
can I put 2 MSI Radeon RX 5600 XT on a ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-E
dawn plover
idk if they’ll be able to run on cross fire, or whatever amd called it
lemme search it up rq
weary flax
crossfire and SLI are dead
round crown
ur dead
fluid star
dawn plover
i searches it up and it said that navi cards don’t support but ofc there’s ppl on reddit who did it so idk of you want to head towards that road
hasty shore
yes
stuck token
price?
lone pond
512€
hasty shore
like 700 usd
stuck token
hmm
hasty shore
maybe 600
lone pond
like 700 usd
@hasty shore incorrect
stuck token
usually i would stray from msi cards but
lone pond
605$
stuck token
if thats the only one
hasty shore
i got the 3080 and3070 messed up
stuck token
if its the only one available
hasty shore
srry
dawn plover
smh
lone pond
is there better ones?
lone pond
could u send me a link
frozen seal
i would reccomend getting a diff one, ye
the TUF is generally considered the best one
lone pond
can you guys send link of a better one?
hasty shore
yeah
lone pond
but will it fit a iCue 200t case?
hasty shore
it is all sold out and will be for a while
lone pond
ik but what website could I get it from
lone pond
does nvidia have an EU store tho?
lone pond
but if I order it from there will it ship out from the US?
hasty shore
idk
lone pond
bruh
hasty shore
r ubuilding a pc
lone pond
yes
round crown
bruh
there is basically no difference between brands
check the specs like the number of dp ports or whatever
dawn plover
lemme jus check what the import pricings are from us to eu
lone pond
but the thing is I am pretty sure I need to get a 2x OC to fit the iCue 200T case right?
dawn plover
well the gpu you're gonna choose
lone pond
this is my list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JYNmDc
and ppl say the GPU i put isnt good
dawn plover
its pretty good
round crown
check ur case specs
lone pond
ok
round crown
dont ask other ppl to do everything
hasty shore
itwill i think
dawn plover
the case has 300mm of clearence
lone pond
oh
dawn plover
lemme check on the card
hasty shore
i have the 220t and i have some room
lone pond
dont ask other ppl to do everything
@round crown bruh because I dont know how to check
round crown
go to pcpp
click on ur case
scroll down
on the left there is "max video card length"
remember the number
and compare to ur graphics card length
if the graphics card is bigger it wont fit
if its not
it will
dawn plover
it won't
lone pond
so what card do I get
hasty shore
the 2x oc
lone pond
any good 2x oc 3070s?
hasty shore
the msi, auros, zotac
round crown
msi
lone pond
so should I get that?
hasty shore
yeah
hasty shore
yes
lone pond
lmao
lone pond
oh
fluid star
fossil talon
My current build with the 3070 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgYGPV
dawn plover
looks cool
golden scaffold
Do y'all know if Aorus is the only brand that has lcd edge view on gpus?
lone pond
is that cooler good? @fossil talon
fossil talon
Not going to OC the R5 so yes its fine for regular cooling. Beats the stock cooler
glad sigil
Get a 10850k
round crown
EW NO
dawn plover
sumthing like a 3600 is a good budget priced cpu that could pair well with a 3070
dawn plover
even if amd weren't around i wouldn't get a 10850k
remote cargo
6800 vs 3070 this is gonna kill me
hasty shore
lol
remote cargo
either i save 80 bucks or i get a better card
but either way i need to wait till like January
the thing is I want rtx
copper mason
The 5600x, if available, is the best bang-for-buck gaming processor after the 3600/3600x/2600x (depending on the price). The 5600x when paired with a 500-series chip set motherboard and a Radeon 6xxx GPU will provide you with an extra boost in FPS by using 'extra' other-wise unused VRAM as additional fast-access system memory with 'Smart Access Memory' feature.
If you are not wanting to go AMD, get a i5-10400 to i5 10600k, just keep in mind you cannot use memory above stock frequency on intel unless you have a Z-series chip set motherboard.
The AMD 5600x does not need to be overclocked to get good performance, and the stock cooler is competent. You can overclock it for a little extra, but I wouldn't recommend it on the stock cooler as it does not leave a lot of room to spare. If you have another cooler laying around for it, it might be a good idea to use it if you want to overclock.
hasty shore
pls move to cpu chat not to be rude
copper mason
RTX is good, but it shouldn't be a deal-breaker, unless you really really love fancy puddle reflections. I own an RTX 2070 Super and I've had it about a year now. It cost too much, and 8gb of VRAM for the price is really the biggest let down beyond the fact that NOTHING USES RTX except a few games.
OK OK, I WAS fed up with my Polaris drivers acting up on me, and I really wanted to try Quake II RTX, but it's NOT worth paying a ton for let me tell you - unless - unless - unless - you do productivity rendering work with it (which I also do, and yes, a 2070 Super will shame a 3950x even in rendering work if the GPU is supported as an option and it usually always is).
karmic quail
hasty shore
wegg
copper mason
@hasty shore I get what you're saying but my comment about processors also had to do with GPU features on AMD side of 'Smart Access Memory', which in an enthusiast forum here, affects performance enough to not be scoffed at.
@karmic quail Consider writing Newegg about that. Maybe if enough people mention it, they'll do something about it.
hasty shore
@copper mason im srry i thought the convo was just cpus
copper mason
It's 100% alright, I entirely try to respect not derailing the topic or blocking out those with legit GPU questions or discussions.
It's tough at times with features such as SAM (smart access memory) and can often be detrimental to the user's ability to be informed to split some things between different channels on here. It's a very tough line to walk - and enforce.
For those who don't know by the way, Smart Access Memory is not required to have support coded in by the game developers (to my best knowledge), unlike RTX. It's supported at the driver and hardware level by the system drivers, processor / BIOS firmware and the video drivers. Provided the game doesn't request ALL the video RAM you have for models and textures (yes, models too!), and depending on the amount of surplus video RAM you have and speed of system RAM to begin with, you can gain a 5~10% boost on FPS. I believe Nvidia is also rolling out support now (via Gamer's Nexus video tip) for the same thing, as it's a PCI-Express 4.0 feature regardless of motherboard brand, chipset brand, and video card brand. It is just up to the hardware manufacturer and chip set developers to implement proper support for it in both hardware and software. So don't take it as a given, make sure your system hardware will support it IF you're interested in it.
ripe ivy
I'm still not sure it's the same thing, they're saying it's Resizable BAR support. But everything regarding SAM suggests it's more than just Resizable BAR, it's the CPU being able to utilize the graphics card's VRAM as well
remote cargo
so many words i dont understand
copper mason
@ripe ivy Resizable BAR is a PCI-E 4.0 feature, however, there's some extension of this feature through AMD hardware and software, to allow for various patenting of a feature subset / IP. More information will become available via reviewers and such as embargoes lift. I would add more, but there's no 100% promise what I'd add will see the light of day for the average user, or is not confirmed.
It is up to nvidia if they wish to make value-adds and extra features to their GPU line-ups in the future, and I'm sure they're working on it. They'll just have to get past the GDDR6 shortages first (it's getting better, slowly).
@remote cargo Well, wikipedia is your friend! I read it too, even after 25+ years in PC hardware since the 486 days and 512kb video cards using 'VLB' slots (predates PCI slots and facilitated more-direct cpu access). There's so much to learn, if you like to read or watch video on it, you will never be bored.
Feel free to list some terms if you are unfamiliar with them, someone - or even a bunch of us - will explain it surely (especially if things are slow).
remote cargo
im just getting into pc building, i wanted to build one myself to learn about pc's and because it would be fun. I understand the basics but i have a lot to learn lol
random pebble
Will eat a doughnut for release of asus dark hero
fossil talon
6800 vs 3070 this is gonna kill me
@remote cargo IKR
verbal marsh
I'm in a computer architecture class for school this semester and its lining up really well with the new ryzen launch, makes me all the more impressed with what companies are doing to increase performance
remote cargo
none of them will be in stock
random pebble
@fossil talon how is it going to kill you..... easy choice...
remote cargo
i have the budget for either
random pebble
6800xt = faster than 3080.... so simple answer.
random pebble
Oh I would just save up the few extra dollars and get the xt
Just no reason not to at the price point....
dawn plover
i mean, i'll wait till reviews are out, to see if amd claims were correct
random pebble
- your chances of getting the card in next month is stuuuuupid.
They are @dawn plover.
remote cargo
its like 100$ more right?
random pebble
I think so.
and you got a couple months before you can reasonably expect to have one.
- its amd... so the drivers may not be "working as intended" for a couple months.
but at least amd dosnt do things to phase out older cards in there drivers.
cause i can spell today
aka the 5700xt got a update few months ago that put it in actual competition with 2080ti...
limpid latch
6800ones will but its not onboard cores they will use software based i believe
already shown in "leaks" to be weaker performance
kind owl
I need to do ray tracing based rendering in my build
so if it doesn't
sadly I will have to get an rtx 30 card
which is even lower possibility
limpid latch
well wait for 3080ti jan
or get a evga card for now like 2070/1660 and stepup to 3080ti when its on the site to do so
those as example 1660 is lowest to allow stepup i believe
kind owl
yeah 1660 is good
limpid latch
cant be openbox, or refurbished, needs to be a new card and 1st register
kind owl
Yeah
limpid latch
something to tide you over
past crown
kind owl
I won't be doing a budget build
limpid latch
then stepup, wait and pay difference in price/tax/shipping and send in your card
kind owl
it might be around thanksgiving when I build it
limpid latch
hes asking about video card
kind owl
evga bstock?
limpid latch
@random pebble i dont believe that though, 5700 is in line with 2080/s /1080ti/ not the 2080ti
past crown
yep
limpid latch
nope
kind owl
ooooh
limpid latch
stepup is only new new
limpid latch
and you get 90 days to stepup
kind owl
thats good
limpid latch
well signup for it
kind owl
yeah I would
limpid latch
after that its just whenever card is fulfiled
kind owl
it is a good deal for me
limpid latch
alot of ppl seamed to have done this when couldnt get 3080
kind owl
good choice for me
limpid latch
microcenter 2080 and below all got sold fast
kind owl
guess I am not getting a gaming trio
random pebble
go buy them and bench them.. red dragon 5700xt is not == to but sub like 5-8%
kind owl
but this is still very good
magic prism
Can someone make a 3080 or 6900xt appear in my hands
random pebble
BUT that being said... that is SUBSTANTIAL gains via drivers.
past crown
i gotchu
limpid latch
which msi 3080 or 3090
magic prism
Leesssgoooooo
limpid latch
msi cards run kinda hot
random pebble
I wouldnt even THINK about paying money for a 80 atm.
random pebble
the 80ti is out in under 60days... with same core count as 3090... and 20g of ram.
past crown
limpid latch
i got 3090 ventus and it gets toasty low 70 w/ flahsed bios
past crown
toasty?
kind owl
cant imagine gaming trio then
limpid latch
asus is the best to be honest
random pebble
@ 999....
kind owl
yeah asus is real good too
rog specifically
I am getting asus for my motherboard
asus rog crosshairr VIII formula
past crown
limpid latch
if you can snag a asus tuf they oc decent and are cool and quiet
random pebble
so all 90 owners basicly are paying 100$ per 1gig ram they will NEVER EVER USE! lolololol cause well by time its useable card will be old AF
limpid latch
i wish i kept my overpaid one
limpid latch
what area do you live in
kind owl
bay area
limpid latch
microcenter by you?
limpid latch
well get a 1660 and register it, and wait for stepup and use the 2060 till you can get card
placid falcon
I just got an EVGA RTX 3080 yesterday, direct from EVGA
placid falcon
release day
limpid latch
hmm the 3090s are up to early last month i saw
limpid latch
3080ftw isnt bad, all silicon lottery, i got a good overclock on one, ram didnt tho, its a hella beefy card
all these hydrocopper ones are showing up soon
/hybrid
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placid falcon
yep, and of course I went and spent $30 for overnight
limpid latch
lol
remote cargo
i was thinking of 3070, i might get a 6800 now
kind owl
lol
limpid latch
3070 eh woudlnt be worth it
kind owl
yeah I wanted 6900xt
limpid latch
1440p pushing it on mem
kind owl
I will push 1440p 240hz
remote cargo
i play a lot of mc so raytracing was kinda important to me
kind owl
I will do ray tracing rendering
limpid latch
thats something id wait for real benchmark reviews
kind owl
I am working on a psychological horror game
limpid latch
both amd and nvidia over hyped benchmarks
kind owl
I thought ray tracing would make it spookier
placid falcon
3080 hasn't really been able to perform with ray tracing on. Ray tracing off, DLSS performance on, I easily hit 4K120 on many games.
kind owl
yeah
limpid latch
ill take it w/ a grain of salt for real numbers
placid falcon
but even the HDMI 2.1 firmware is a disaster
kind owl
my max graphics plan is: 1440p 240hz without ray tracing 1080p 144hz with ray tracing
limpid latch
samsung odyssey g7 32 inch..
fossil talon
@fossil talon how is it going to kill you..... easy choice...
@random pebble
Stock is deciding the deal. If I manage to get the RX I'll sell the 3070
kind owl
yeah
limpid latch
they fixed flicker
kind owl
I will get that monitor
kind owl
I wish
placid falcon
What should I do with my 2080 Super that I pulled out. It is only 6 months old and I have the 2 year replacement warranty that is transferable at micro center.
kind owl
g9 would be an absolute dream
limpid latch
i love my odyssey g7.. was upset obviously having flicker
kind owl
even 3090 cant run g9 to its maximum
limpid latch
its a million less pixels than 4k it will will run good
limpid latch
i had the 2018/19 49 inch the only thing i didnt like was if a game couldnt play on it fully then your stuck at 27 inch blah
so im good w/ g7
random pebble
@fossil talon I am just older and wiser than i used to be man.... no reason to EVER buy round 1 of a nvidia product... they will have the one they actually give a flying F about out in 4 months after they make rip money clean out the pocket of the gen z'rs and below ... then they get them to buy 2 cards cause the TI is so much more powerfull.
random pebble
just good business. Why make 1 sale when you can make 2.
People buying a 90 should NOT be gamers but programmers and the like... but they are supposed to be smart and realize that the titan will drop on feb 16th with stupid levels of crazy.
(lets just say its really really really fast and it just feeeeeeds Jetbrains builder... oh id veary niiiiice
limpid latch
5120x1440 49 inch is 7,372,800 pixels 4k is 8,294,400 so will be easier to run
ripe ivy
Considering the 3090 isn't even getting the same kind of professional support Titans normally do, it's obviously meant for the gamers with more money than sense. Though speaking of which since it was mentioned, is a new Titan rumored to launch in Feb?
limpid latch
well its round 1 for new architecture but round 2 for raytracing
ripe ivy
I didn't hear anything about that
remote cargo
will 6800 have ray tracing?
random pebble
intell 9900 quad sli 2080 ti build time 19 hours... tR3X + quad 2080ti = 1.75 hour build time... projecting builds in under half hour.
ripe ivy
Yes the 6800 has ray tracing
random pebble
Yes Kryso... RTX is not a nvidia exclusive thing... same as SAM is not AMD exclusive.
(even though they both claim each of them are exclusive)
remote cargo
whats SAM
fossil talon
Smart Access memory
dawn plover
smart access memory
random pebble
smart access mem
ripe ivy
Well I'm still not entirely sure about that until we get the details on how SAM works exactly
remote cargo
like what does it do
random pebble
IF is exclusive... but SAM is not.
fossil talon
Basically AMD CPU shares VRAM with GPU
random pebble
Allows direct cpu / ram access.
fossil talon
Yep
random pebble
allows a MUCH faster transport between ram and ram.
fossil talon
Since I have the R5 5600x it is already compatible. However Nvidia can easily enable that through a bios update
random pebble
@limpid latch yes it does... please go see pcb breakdown.
limpid latch
oh i thought it didnt, its still weaker though 1st try n all
random pebble
it is not as fast as nvidia's.
ripe ivy
They can enable resizable BAR, but I really don't know if that's even the same thing
hasty shore
what is bar
dreamy dragonBOT
Reviir#3335 has been warned
random pebble
my biggest gripe with amd is that ryzen master requires core virtualization turned off.....
fossil talon
We'll see how the RX series performs soon in the coming days
random pebble
grrrrrr.
limpid latch
it will definitely run better on amd cpus
fossil talon
In the mean time, I'll try to get the RXs series this Wednesday and keep my 3070FE sealed for the time being
remote cargo
the thing is i dont want to wait for reviews after launch cuz if its good, i wont be able to get one cuz it will be out of stock
limpid latch
oh it will be out of stock in minutes
remote cargo
yeah
limpid latch
just like everything else
fossil talon
I'm still buying before reviews
random pebble
@remote cargo they are way more invested in raytracing because it is a byproduct of some of the super sweet new tricks of UITesting... and they make there money off clowns like me that use Server racks of GPU's
limpid latch
either wait outside a microcenter or spam refresh on sites
fossil talon
Or double your bot programs
ripe ivy
Good luck, I'm settling for a cheap 5700XT in the coming months personally, or a 6700 card whenever those roll out next quarter 
random pebble
My company pays nvidia almost half a mill a month in data processing.
fossil talon
Bots are going to crash Newegg and other sites like the Nvidia launch ngl
random pebble
LOL if a bot can crash them sites that would be a thing... its like yall dont understand kernal hardening at all. 🙂
ripe ivy
AIB cards are rolling out on the 25th, so really you'll at least have two chances this month
random pebble
or... just pay your local best buy buddie 200 bucks and have him hide a card for ya.
remote cargo
lol
random pebble
its what I do to scalp the crap outa these 3k series.
limpid latch
lol all those places ppl will lose their jobs
ripe ivy
Scalp yourself 
remote cargo
i wish i lived near microcenter
fossil talon
Lowkey did that but I managed to get the 3070FE. They reserved me a 3070 MSI Gaming Trio X
remote cargo
i would rather call best buy and ask them if they can reserve a card for me
limpid latch
alot of ppl got 3070's by me, the chicago microcenter was closed on launch, and westmont one got their shipment 200 3070's were there
random pebble
Meh... economics 101... I got them people want them... no one has them... therefor worth a crap ton....
unless your saying Van Gogh's are worth like 11.36 USD
@remote cargo they will not reserve cards... i would be supprised if they even let you in to buy one atm.
limpid latch
all bestbuy i thought are website only
random pebble
they did not allow in store purchase of ps5 or xbox.
fossil talon
Welcome to internal connections
fossil talon
There are definitely people in the distribution chain that are gathering GPUs before it hits stores
limpid latch
alot dont even receive in the stores... so lucky if they get one inside
fluid star
Cmon
dreamy dragonBOT
Geforce GT 710#6935 has been warned
fluid star
😦
fossil talon
In Canada, specifically in Canada Computers, there are people that have been caught scalping and manipulating the supply chain
random pebble
@fossil talon ... money makes the world work.
fossil talon
Ik, it's simple supply and demand
fluid star
some rumors saying 6800xt so close with 3090 wise of performance
fossil talon
No matter the case, people are spending and making money
remote cargo
msi has been caught scalping before
fluid star
less 500$
remote cargo
id personally choose for 6800 just for the performance:price
random pebble
Yep... kids dont understand that lol... I get sooooo much hate mail every Tuesday and Thursday from posting cards on FB market for Ludacris prices its unreal
fossil talon
Ik, I did too when I posted my 3070FE and 2070S in the past
limpid latch
now that is dying down a bit, ppl mainly get their profit from 3080 but w/ amd paper launch around the corner lol
fossil talon
Like I got tons of ridiculous offers as well as threats
vagrant phoenix
I just got back from Microcenter in Houston and there are 30 people camped outside the front door for 30 series shipments.
limpid latch
they never get that many
random pebble
Oh yea most of the "idiots" have spent the stupid prices for crap already...
limpid latch
they camping out for tomorrow jeez
random pebble
BUT at least they bought me my new tR3X PRO machine 🙂
vagrant phoenix
@limpid latch The MC guys said it is like that every day.
limpid latch
honestly tho this reviir guy is on here has a card and a scalper? why is he even in newegg discord?
vagrant phoenix
I was floored. All I have left to get for my new build is a GPU. I am getting a 3090. But I sure as hell am not camping outside of a store to get one.
fossil talon
It's all luck now I guess
limpid latch
3090 easier to get than 3080 since its so expensive
fossil talon
True, but people are still buying tons to resell
vagrant phoenix
"Easier" is definitely relative. The only time I have seen the words "In Stock" was on Newegg Canada and I cannot order from there. 😦
limpid latch
unless its a strix or gigabyte aorus noones buying 3090's maybe tuf
fossil talon
Oh @vagrant phoenix you're also from Canada. Umm MemX gets another restock in a week I think
random pebble
Honestly like omg... economics 🙂 scalping is not price gouging... cause its not a NEED its a WANT...
vagrant phoenix
No I am not from Canada, hence I cannot buy from Newegg Canada lol
fossil talon
Oh sorry I didn't read that properly
random pebble
@vagrant phoenix order though a proxy shipper... there is TONS of them around. I used to get RX that way.
fossil talon
I could buy some and import to the US, but again due to the price of goods, I have to pay several VATs and other fees
copper mason
intell 9900 quad sli 2080 ti build time 19 hours... tR3X + quad 2080ti = 1.75 hour build time... projecting builds in under half hour.
@random pebble This is back in time / late reply but, I must ask: What is the SLI machine for? There isn't much game support. Are you mining/doing compute or renders with this for professional rendering, need the VRAM pools, or other use?
vagrant phoenix
Nah I'll wait. Only about 75 ahead of me in the EVGA queue at the moment.
fossil talon
Oh that's fine, hopefully you get lucky @vagrant phoenix
limpid latch
they get fulfilled w/ queue just keep an eye on email and not sleep through day/all night never know when it comes
fossil talon
EVGA isn't doing that bad rn, at least they have waitlists and are somewhat more transparent
copper mason
Seeing where you are on a wait list is a lot better than just seeing 'back ordered' or 'out of stock, notify me'.
random pebble
@copper mason I am a programmer the SLI / tR3 machines are build servers.
limpid latch
would be nice to see preorder/list for the waterblock/hybrid ones
fossil talon
Yep they are coming this week
vagrant phoenix
They had one for the intial stock but they were claimed within about 7 minutes.
Last week
limpid latch
oh really, didnt see any show up for resale lol
random pebble
with jenkins / incredi / jetbrains / octo use can use the gpu's tensorcores as cpumodules allowing you do get some truly unbelievable times for builds... and time is money.
vagrant phoenix
They haven't shipped yet. FIrst week of Dec.
limpid latch
the price isnt even that bad either w/ a block
cheaper than getting an ek block yourself
fossil talon
I was thinking of custom waterloops in the future
vagrant phoenix
Yeah, you figure the waterblock is about $50 more than the air cooler.
limpid latch
you go n buy one its like 256 w/ shipping cause you gotta buy backplate as well
and yet im still waiting for a block for my msi ventis
blah
fossil talon
Wait are people legit reselling the RTX 30s series boxes......
vagrant phoenix
Yeah for sure. I have so much money sunk into this new build it is stupid lol. What's another $250
limpid latch
well if you get one directly for cost and w/ a block or aio
you end up spending less hah
gigabyte has extreme waterforce, and asus has them coming too
fossil talon
Gigabyte extremes are a little too much imo
vagrant phoenix
True. But I have been waiting years to build a new rig...and now two months for a GPU. If I get an air cooled one to put a block on, great. If I can get a Hydrocopper before the air cooled one, great. 🙂
limpid latch
also innoat
well the extremes are just under kingpin
so second fastests out of the box
fossil talon
Oh my friend just got his 3080 Gigabyte Vision right now, stocks are still small but cards are still coming
vagrant phoenix
Nope
vagrant phoenix
Hydrocopper is a single slot FTW3 Ultra. Jacob already said no stepup to HC.
vagrant phoenix
The card price is the same, the block just costs $50 more than the air cooler.
limpid latch
actually the 1799 was ftw3 hydrocopper is 50 more lol
thats stupid tho, was gonna say id tell the microcenter kid i want my 3090 back and trade him w/ cash n stepup lol
or just wait for my corsair block in the coming weeks
Hi xX_Dmytro_Xx,
Yes, a Hydro Copper, would be able to Step Up to an air cooled GPU.
Regards,
Peter N
thats a evga response to someone
vagrant phoenix
Wait what? You can step up from HC to air cooled?
vagrant phoenix
Where did you see that? Jacob told someone no last week.
vagrant phoenix
That's froma 2080
limpid latch
as long as its on the list doesnt matter
vagrant phoenix
I thought you meant from an air cooled 3090 lol
limpid latch
ill just look like i said i have the 3090 ftw3 on account still we were seeing if stepup
but then would cost me more money to get the 3090 back than it would having waterblock on msi ventus
vagrant phoenix
yah
limpid latch
if the kid will trade back in the first place 😛
but kingpin maybe on stepup as well who knows
i can get 2100mhz on my card easily just the temps are the issue keeping it there
vagrant phoenix
Looks like a no on Kingpin as well
limpid latch
kingpin they showed like 2300mhz or more i think right lol
those are truly binned cards
vagrant phoenix
Someone posted a screen from Vince showing 2590, I assume on LN2
vagrant phoenix
Yeah, just a marketing hype video. Unboxing is so stupid. Though that watercooling kit EK sent him in a rifle case was awesome.
vagrant phoenix
It did look a little thin
vagrant phoenix
For Radeon's sake they better hope it lives up to the hype. Otherwise, it could get real bad for them.
remote cargo
i like the performance for 6800 but i like the nvidia looks more
limpid latch
it will be good i dont think as good as they say, and drivers will prob suck
vagrant phoenix
That's what I mean...they need to knock it out of the park right off the bat on everything.
The 5000s were an embarassment.
vagrant phoenix
Yep, dropped a display port and added type C. That'll go well for VR folks.
snow nest
Forgive me for I'm about to sin. Gonna buy a 3080 off an ebay scalper. 
vagrant phoenix
Gotta run for a bit. Nice chatting with you all.
copper mason
@snow nest do a best offer and put 20~50$ over the MSRP of it.
gusty cave
Don’t buy on eBay yet
limpid latch
its stupid on a already tax'd purchase
gusty cave
Wait till January stock will be normal
copper mason
it will be good i dont think as good as they say, and drivers will prob suck
@limpid latch BOTH Nvidia and AMD have driver issues, none is better than the other currently. I went from last year's Radeon to the 2070 Super and using 'Studio Ready' drivers and they're still taking a big steaming dump all over my productivity / work flow on here.
limpid latch
amd was prepared for waterblocks
snow nest
They're asking 1299 for the gigabyte vision oc. I specifically need this one because it fits my build theme. I tried to knock down the price but they basically replied with a f*** you.
limpid latch
nvidia i never had issues w/ their drivers
snow nest
I can't wait until 2021
gusty cave
What websites offer bots so I can’t get a 6800xt
limpid latch
oh the white one?
copper mason
My Polaris AMD card didn't know how to stay stable, and my Studio Ready Nvidia drivers like to get crash-tastic.
Two different PC's and two different OS's
gusty cave
Do you know of any bot sites @limpid latch
limpid latch
i just searched
copper mason
@snow nest Just get a can of paint, and paint the cooler (not the fans!). Buy whatever one works.
random pebble
@limpid latch AMD = up front issues... Nvidia slows down your card on purpose over time 😛 pick your poison... excruciating pain from work arounds till you get to a doctor... or go to a earth healing crystal doctor and die slowly.....
copper mason
Just don't paint the fins if you can help it, and don't paint the fans.
snow nest
I'm not feeling that DIY. I don't really feel like taking apart a GPU just to paint the cooler. I'm not that good with paint. I have the money I just feel bad about purchasing from these a**holes.
limpid latch
crazy how they sent a waterblock to jayz2cents already..
copper mason
A can of Krylon paint goes far 🙂 Can paint a lot of PC stuff with that. Did a red / white case a while back, looked SWEET. Maybe go on EVGA website or whatever brand's web site and see if you can buy through them before buying a scalper's inventory. Something to consider. Even going to Micro Center would be better than going to a scalper. However, if you can't help yourself there, you may have no choice. There's a price to everything.
gusty cave
What’s the best way to try buying a 6800xt online tomorrow
remote cargo
it launches tomorrow?
gusty cave
18th sorry
copper mason
You can always call newegg and see when inventory is coming in or email them, too. If it comes in soon - then you might not have much of a wait.
remote cargo
i wanted to try and get a 6800
remote cargo
for the 5000 cpus newegg did a twitter post
gusty cave
So any sites where I can get a bot
snow nest
I live in the northeast. We don't have microcenters here. Just a single best buy in the entire state. I mean the nvidia CEO said that stock will be extremely low until 2021. Given that black friday and christmas is coming, the chances of getting a card from any reputable online retailer is slim to none.
@copper mason
rose adder
I was able to get a 5900x by refreshing the page quickly
gusty cave
What website?
snow nest
You should buy a lottery ticket with that amount of luck @rose adder
remote cargo
i was able to get a 5600x from paul hardware;s twitter
rose adder
also I have a really low latency fiber connection
remote cargo
he posted links to amazons page for the cpus
limpid latch
if you got an apple and use the app apple pay is instant
rose adder
the newegg links for the 5000 series were posted in an obscure email
the newegg app did not work
limpid latch
my friend got a few 3080 and sold them doing that
snow nest
I need a 5900x but I'm probably gonna have to go the ebay route for that too
rose adder
I even tried going to url directly
the 5000 series was sold out well before the app even let you open the product page
limpid latch
you dont neeed a 5900x that badly, they will show dont pay more for it
snow nest
Literally 20 seconds
rose adder
kinda a mess but at least the website didn't crash
gusty cave
Yeah cpus aren’t as bad as GPUs
snow nest
Fastest CPU sale in history
rose adder
they is still a supply shortage for sure
rose adder
I haven't tried this because I have super fast internet but if you don't have fiber you could try using something like https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces
if you want a gpu on launch day
remote cargo
imma stick to my 600mbps internet and 13cps
rose adder
cps?
round crown
clicks per second
rose adder
latency matters more than bandwidth
hollow heath
Lol I should've tried that
rose adder
in this case
being in an amazon datacenter right next to newegg's servers would give you a leg up I think
hollow heath
Any idea when the 3070 is gonna restock?
daring tusk
do we have a time when the radeon 6000 will launch on the 18th? and which retailers/websites will be selling them?
loud flax
I got a 3070 from Newegg even though I wanted a 3080 but oh well
shadow horizon
Waiting for 3070 to be in stock
rose adder
I would guess newegg stocks it 6am PT
that's what it's been for previous launches
typically newegg launches before BB
last time the app and search on newegg didn't work, the only way to get one was direct link
remote cargo
Newegg Twitter will have the links when they have stock
kind wigeon
exotic vine
fax like what?
how much would you sell one for?
surely you dont need 4 for your own use
grim edge
6800xt
vital gale
shell mesa
do yall think that availability of the new radeon gpus will make the new nvidia GPUs cheaper
misty shoal
no
lone pond
anyone have a better card than the rx 5600 xt at the same price as it
because im planning on getting the rx 5600 xt unless there is a better value card
ripe ivy
It competes with the 2060 performance wise, so if you can find a similarly priced 2060 then that's not really better technically unless you prefer the software options Nvidia offers. Last I checked though most 2060s cost notably more though
ripe ivy
Scroll up slightly
hollow heath
How did he do that
fathom bear
Having a lot of free time?
hollow heath
Wait is he a scalper lol
exotic vine
prob
complaining about a 1070? im on integrate intel 620 graphics over here
*integrated
ripe ivy
I'm on an RX 580 and perfectly fine with biding my time for stock or a good deal
exotic vine
i cant run regular minecraft over 30 fps consistently
it always dips, and stutters
even with optifine lmao, but at least then i can get around 70-90 fps
hollow heath
I want a 3070 too
hollow heath
Ehhhhh
hazy glacier
Just wait and see how things turn out. If there's nothing good at launch and shortly afterwards, then you could just get whatever you feel is good at that point
exotic vine
im sorta new, but will the 3070 have better shaders than a 6800? i havent looked into it much but thats what ive heard
remote cargo
imma just order 6800 on launch day if i can and wait for reviews
exotic vine
not better shaders, but would it be better at processing shade?
remote cargo
if its bad i'll return it and wait for 3070 to come back in stock
hazy glacier
I think most of the RTX 3000 just doesn't do well with lower resolutions as I've heard
remote cargo
for minecraft?
hazy glacier
Mostly the 3080 and above
exotic vine
yeah probably same @remote cargo
i dont really care that much, as long as i can play at high fps
remote cargo
cuz most companies areee doing a extended return policy
exotic vine
i have a 1440p 144hz monitor ill be fine right?
remote cargo
720p ig
exotic vine
eesh, thats really low quality for me idk if thats being spoiled or sum
hazy glacier
The 6800XT was said to have done well compared to the 3070 or 3080 whatever it was against in rasterization
remote cargo
nowadays with tech so advanced it makes sense
hazy glacier
Due to using the Zen 3 + Radeon 6000 benefits
hollow heath
How you get a zen 3 CPU lmaoooo
remote cargo
i woke up 5 am onm a skool night
dreamy dragonBOT
Senko-kun#9951 has been warned
hazy glacier
Seriously?
exotic vine
wait whats zen 3 cpus?? sorry im new
hazy glacier
Zen 3 = Ryzen 5000
exotic vine
oh
exotic vine
ok, i know what that is i guess i just didnt get the memo it was the same as the new 5000 series
i got my r7 3700x like 2 days before release of zen 3
hazy glacier
Oof
remote cargo
in fact you have more c/t count
exotic vine
no its def a good cpu, with the cores and threads
hazy glacier
And if you're already doing more FPS than the monitor's refresh rate, no point
remote cargo
yeah
exotic vine
yeah true, imma be playing like apex, cod and stuff at 1440p competitive settings so
i should get around like 200 fps for apex at that
hazy glacier
I know I definitely am for every game 😎 please give me a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor
remote cargo
imma mostly try and take advantage of rtx
hazy glacier
I tried RTX, kinda cool ig
remote cargo
so minecraft, cyberpunk, etc
exotic vine
i cant do rtx, sitting on intel integrated graphics
hazy glacier
f
exotic vine
major f
remote cargo
im a competetive minecraft player so graphics are kinda important, but frames are still top protity
hazy glacier
It runs payday 2 at 10FPS though, don't it?
exotic vine
what, me?
hazy glacier
I used to have a PC using integrated, ran Payday 2 at 10FPS
hazy glacier
I don't know how it ran Payday 2, but I had fun with it, bought DLCs for it despite bad 10FPS
I saw 60FPS in loading screen and was like "god damn"
Now I just look at 60FPS and can notice the unstable 60FPS 😔 I really need to get a 144hz monitor or maybe even a 240Hz if I feel like it, like the G7 for instance
Anyways, you're pretty good with a 6700XT/6800/6800XT or 3070
exotic vine
def
hazy glacier
Best recommend 6700XT tbf, 5700XT did 1440p 144hz well enough for people, it should do much better
exotic vine
idk which one that is, but im def going to try and get the 6800 reg on release
hazy glacier
That's Radeon 6700XT, the next tier below 6800
exotic vine
okokok, i havent even heard of that yet
ripe ivy
Uh yeah we don't actually know exact details of it yet
solid pier
whats the best brand 1660 super
hazy glacier
Yeah, that's true
I keep forgetting that the RX 6000 isn't even close to release yet
ripe ivy
We have leaks saying that it will have a 192-bit memory bus, 12gb of vram
exotic vine
wym? it comes out the 18th doesnt it?
hazy glacier
That's p neat
burnt zodiac
For the RX 580 in the Radeon Software for gpu? What max should I put my fans at for rpm?
hazy glacier
RX 6000 comes December
zinc wraith
Rx 6000 releases in 2 days-
ripe ivy
That's the 6900XT
exotic vine
the higher end one comes later
hazy glacier
Funky NVIDIA vs AMD release dates
exotic vine
but the one closest to the 3070 comes out in 2 days
hazy glacier
NVIDIA is like "Here's a high end you would never be able to afford, wait for the lower end later" while AMD is just like "Here's the lowest end, have fun"
exotic vine
lmao
zinc wraith
I'm going for a 6800xt, I got talked out of a 6900xt
hazy glacier
6900XT is not really a good buy
exotic vine
im honestly done with nvidia
remote cargo
im going for 6800 cuz at first i wanted 3070
hazy glacier
It's cool with a 1000$ price tag in USD, but still dumb expensive for anyone except for like 4K purposes or as a workstation GPU I guess
exotic vine
i wouldnt be surprised if they sold 3070 to scalpers and allowed them to resell for such high prices, and then got a small share of that price as well
hazy glacier
Anyways, I'll see myself out
Bet that the whole scalper thing happens all over again lmao
exotic vine
like cant they say no resale until a certain date after release?
hazy glacier
I think they'll avoid AMD for the most part tbh
exotic vine
so all the scalpers are out of luck
hazy glacier
NVIDIA is like the superior one as seen by most of the public
ripe ivy
Well when you have someone under MSI putting the cards on Ebay for double the MSRP stuff starts looking bad for everyone involved
hazy glacier
loler
exotic vine
still, they need to get it together or people are def switching to radeon and amd
look what happened to intel
hazy glacier
Ok I'm gonna go play something now have fun with discussion I guess lol
exotic vine
see ya around, i gotta go too
burnt zodiac
Anyone know good fan tuning for RX 580? Really need some help doing it.
Going for low temps ^
ripe ivy
Did you undervolt and underclock the card?
burnt zodiac
yeah
ripe ivy
It's a significant underclock, why is it running at 72 degrees then? I have mine with a slight overclock over an already factory overclock and it gets about that hot when running particularly heavy games
With the stock 0rpm fan curve
burnt zodiac
Well do you know if its find undervolting it even more?
The 72 C is when im in games.
But at idle or when just on discord or youtube I get at about 63
Would it have to be something about the min acoustic limit?
I have it at 910
ripe ivy
That's shockingly hot, like what sort of airflow is going on in your case?
Mine idles at 40 - 50 at 0rpm
burnt zodiac
Honestly, could be just the weather of how hot it was since the sun faces my window. Other than that it could just be how bad the case is (Prebuilt dont flame 😦 ) But I'm getting ready to build a pc since I can buy a case this month.
ripe ivy
Do you know what the case is?
burnt zodiac
One of them prebuilt brands one. Like an acer one.
ripe ivy
Oh um how long have you had the computer?
hazy glacier
Non prebuilts are good as well. Check out some other cases before going for the cases that are in prebuilds just in case
sullen panther
@burnt zodiac you can possibly give it some love and care and give the gpu some new thermal paste, clean the dust If there is some, etc
Or watercolor that mofo
vast zephyr
Anybody know why a 2080ti would run at 300-450 mhz when running games and crashing the game?
austere minnow
What gpu would you guys suggest for a 1440p 144hz build with a Ryzen 5 3600
ripe ivy
Sounds like the 2080Ti might be overheating significantly
jovial goblet
What gpu would you guys suggest for a 1440p 144hz build with a Ryzen 5 3600
@austere minnow 5700xt or a rtx super gpu
fervent obsidian
3070
night vault
my 5700xt wont hit 144fps 144hz on anytghing other than competetive shooters, but you can get like maybe 90hz with it
ripe ivy
It'll do 100 - 120 no problem for a lot of games I'm sure
But yeah it probably averages around 90 probably
jovial goblet
cpu bottleneck?
sullen panther
What's the cheapest gpu I can use to get into 4k 60 fps?
ripe ivy
4k 60 at what?
sullen panther
Medium or better
jovial goblet
r7 or i7
austere minnow
Is there something better than the 5700xt that isn’t crazy expensive?
ripe ivy
Not yet
jovial goblet
nope
night vault
@ripe ivy on tomshardware and review videos with like 9900k's etc
ripe ivy
Well actually
ripe ivy
Define crazy expensive
ripe ivy
Like how high does it get to the point where you think to yourself "I would never pay that."
austere minnow
What about like a 2070 super or a 2080 super
fervent obsidian
5700xt are under 400 and are like 2070s perf
austere minnow
How much is the 3070
eternal locust
499
fervent obsidian
499
ripe ivy
The 2070 Super and 5700XT are pretty much trading blows
night vault
id agree with that if you can get the 2070s for less than 50$ more
river hill
5600 xt or 2060
fervent obsidian
iirc 5600xt is a tiny bit better
austere minnow
Okay thx
If I wanted a graphics card that can reach 144hz on 1440 p though what should I go for
Or should I upgrade cpu as well
river hill
mainly for cod and fortnite lol
eternal locust
The funny thing is most of us play games in 1080-1440
austere minnow
I just rlly want a 1440p 144hz build
eternal locust
most people dont have 4k gaming monitors to even enjoy cards like 3080 to the full extent
night vault
@austere minnow
fervent obsidian
james what is your budget for the pc?
night vault
your ideal 1440p 144hz gpu would be 3070 imo
night vault
ah
fervent obsidian
you can easily do a 3070
night vault
3070 can be easily put into that
fervent obsidian
wait lemme check
night vault
it can dwella
ripe ivy
If you can get a 3070 for a reasonable price, that is the best one yeah
night vault
ive made dozens of canadian lists for people on r/buildapcforme
austere minnow
I can only find it for like 650
fervent obsidian
you could do a 3080
austere minnow
1440p, not 4K
austere minnow
I cannot afford a 4K monitor
night vault
yea 3070 presents the best value
fervent obsidian
i'd run a 3080 on 1440p its not like you NEED 4k
austere minnow
Can I send my build that I have?
hazy glacier
A 3080 on 1440p is alright ig
austere minnow
Like that I’m looking to get
night vault
yes ofcourse
hazy glacier
Good enough to do heavy ray tracing games
Course, there's DLSS coming into the gaming more and more over time
Kinda find it weird that I still stuttered a little in Bright Memory with DLSS on though
hazy glacier
I have a 2070 Super, did 120FPS, but the lows must have been pretty bad
austere minnow
i have a lot of aesthetic stuff with it too
hazy glacier
Or the game is just not really a stable one idk
austere minnow
2200 total with monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc
hazy glacier
Don't spend on RGB RAM if you can find non RGB for same price but CAS16 instead of 18
And imo, RGB RAM isn't too worth it
hazy glacier
It's good as long as it's 3200-3600MHz CAS16
ripe ivy
If you're willing to spend that amount on rgb ram, instead of that look for a 3200 kit at CL14
night vault
5600x and 3070 should be able to fit in a 2000$ cad budget i think
hazy glacier
R5 3600 or R5 5600(This I recommend more lole), RX 6700XT
ripe ivy
That's always going to be Samsung B-die
hazy glacier
For the Rx 6700XT, just watch what the GPUs are like, so you can see if a 6700XT is good enough tbh
ripe ivy
Eh I think it's coming out in next quarter
hazy glacier
5700XT does 1440p 144hz well enough for competitive and low