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dawn plover
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sadness

warped osprey
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so i took screenshots

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sorry if this counts as spam

dawn plover
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nice

warped osprey
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i managed to squeeze 16 things to that price

lone pond
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nice

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lol

dawn plover
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screenshots are gone

warped osprey
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i did not mean to do that

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should i post them again?

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im posting them again in case someone wants to see

dawn plover
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bruh no nvme drive smh

hardy wind
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no mobo people c'mon

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you couldnt see that

dawn plover
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there is a mobo you fool

hardy wind
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no mobo people c'mon
@hardy wind im blind

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holy crap im blind

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i looked at it 3 times befor sending that

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and after sending it i saw it

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wow

dawn plover
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lmao

hardy wind
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i wanna die rn

warped osprey
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bruh

lone pond
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Should i get a 1050 Ti?

jovial goblet
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nope, might as well get a 1650 super or a 1660 super because its a few dollars more

eager timber
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the gigabyte itx vers of those are good pricing

tame canopy
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I got a 1050 for $40

eager timber
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how?

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was it a mining gpu

novel kestrel
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Three more days until 6800x

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Hopefully can order one in time, no Idea when they'd go live to orde

fluid star
eager timber
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anything more to setup now that i have a 1660 oc?

acoustic crest
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Hopefully can order one in time, no Idea when they'd go live to orde
@novel kestrel 6am pst / 9am est is probably most likely

novel kestrel
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2pm UK time then

acoustic crest
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yeah

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that's when zen 3 came out and when they've release other things in the past

novel kestrel
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Sweet

ancient crystal
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@acoustic crest nice industrial music pioneer/luminary nick

acoustic crest
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@ancient crystal that reference is rarely caught thanks ha

glad saffron
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Who are all the Partners that make AMD cards, I wanna be sitting on one of their sites come Wednesday to nab a 6800xt

jovial goblet
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sapphire, asus, gigabyte, msi, powercolor

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there are other ones, forgot the names

fluid star
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asus enough

glad saffron
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So camp out asus website, gotcha

Or are we talking amazon/bestbuy

ripe ivy
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I would recommend maybe avoiding Asus Radeon cards, at least not without a review first. History has shown them dropping the ball on the Radeon side phaWesker

fluid star
ripe ivy
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See the 5700(XT) debacle with both their TUF and ROG models, the TUF model didn't have adequate memory cooling and the ROG model didn't have proper mounting pressure.

jovial goblet
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So camp out asus website, gotcha

Or are we talking amazon/bestbuy
@glad saffron bestbuy

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also try micro center

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and maybe b&h

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amd as of recent has been dropping their stocks on micro center and best buy

ripe ivy
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Oh, I just remembered. AIB partner cards aren't even coming out on launch. They're coming out 2 weeks later

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So you technically have 2 chances to get one

hidden carbon
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@warped osprey you should spend ATLEAST half if not 3/4 of your budget on CPU and GPU

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also that ryzen 3 is on the weak side and wont allow any future GPU upgrades without upgrading It itself

lone pond
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lmao who buys from only amazon

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u can save money by just getting each part from the cheapest sites

empty mountain
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how much is a used 1080 ti?

lone pond
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Anywhere from 350 to 500 usd

empty mountain
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thx

fluid star
midnight pollen
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What is a good gpu for 400 dollars ish

strong comet
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Rx 5700 xt sapphire pulse?

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Might be what you're looking for

midnight pollen
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Ok

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Thanks

prisma snow
dim wraith
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I bought the ASUS tuf z390 mother board. I have no display. I get the three short beeps when starting computer. I have tried plugging up display port and hdmi, but nothing. Looking for suggestions. I have updated the bios. I managed to plug in a MSI Graphics board.

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I am trying to run multiple monitors and getting frustrated

prisma snow
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idk man

lone pond
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what cpu?

dim wraith
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intel 1151 - i5

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it will come up, but not with the onboard

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i think i just figured out my problem

hidden carbon
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@dim wraith most likely a RAM problem

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try 1 stick at a time

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in the second slot from the right first

dawn plover
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yeah those three beeps indicate something

hidden carbon
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sorry Left*

dawn plover
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get ur mobo’s manual

valid sundial
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@dim wraith most likely a RAM problem
@hidden carbon doubt it

lone pond
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@dim wraith remove gpu and put it back in

lone pond
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Is the 6800 non xt > the 5700 xt? Gaming on a 27 inch 1440p @144

worn pumice
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In theory yes

fringe quest
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Whats the best graphics card worse than the 3070 im curious

burnt parcel
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probably 2080 ti right?

fringe quest
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Idk

tired scroll
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the 2080 ti and 3070 are very similar in performance

lone pond
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3070 still better tho

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By a slight bit

main rapids
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The 3070 has an upgraded Ray Tracing core, so that might be better even at the same speeds...

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I am now waiting for the 30X0 TI series... January timeframe... I have a 2070 Super now so I can wait...

bitter jungle
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Is the 1070 TI duke a good model of 1070 TI?

vital meadow
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Can someone tell me if this is a good gpu as I know nothing about computers but I have this graphics card, that I somehow will have to build myself lol

ripe ivy
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You have it, like did you buy it or what?

vital meadow
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Yes it’s a present

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@ripe ivy

ripe ivy
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So someone bought it for you, well yeah it's a pretty good card. Do you have the rest of the computer to pair it with?

vital meadow
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Yes I have a i5-10400 processor though

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😐

ripe ivy
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I mean it's fine, you know. For the money it's not a bad option

vital meadow
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@ripe ivy is I5-10400 a good processor or not really

ripe ivy
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Yeah it works well

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It isn't a screamer, but it's fine

vital meadow
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Will I be able to play highest settings and get good FPS on 1080p with that build do you think?

ripe ivy
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Actually that graphics card is well suited for 1440p

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So yeah, absolutely it will do really well at 1080p

vital meadow
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No I mean like for frames per second

ripe ivy
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Um I guess a point of concern might be RAM speeds

vital meadow
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On 1080

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My ram is 2666mhz

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But my friend told me because of the I5-10400 Intel card you don’t need 3000mhz

ripe ivy
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Unfortunately that's what the CPU is limited to on the B460 chipset

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Actually on Z490 you can get RAM that fast, and it does benefit the CPU

vital meadow
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Ye but I got told just to get a lower motherboard as I only need 2666mhz

ripe ivy
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It's only limited to 2666 on any chipset other than Z490, but yeah that's the only limiting factor

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Intel shafting budget options pretty much

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It can't be helped, but it won't hold things back by a lot or anything

vital meadow
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He said that if I got a amd cpu I would have to get 3000mhz

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For it to work well

ripe ivy
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There's really no tangible cost difference between 2666 and 3000

vital meadow
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@ripe ivy what do you mean by chipset

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What is a chipset

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The cpu?

ripe ivy
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The motherboard chipset

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B460, Z490 that's what's called the chipset

vital meadow
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So you mean my cpu can’t get 3000mhz unless it’s a z490 motherboard

ripe ivy
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Correct, Intel limits i5s to 2666 and i7s and higher to 2933 on anything lower than Z490

vital meadow
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Ok

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@ripe ivy I have a AOC 24”G2U 1080P 144Hz tv also. Do you think this is a good monitor as someone in discord recommended it and convinced me to buy it

ripe ivy
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Looks pretty good, better than what I have phaWesker

vital meadow
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What do you have

ripe ivy
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Acer 1080p IPS 75Hz, I got a couple of em for $100 each

vital meadow
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That sounds good too I think that’s better than mine

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Acer

ripe ivy
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Nah the refresh rate is like half, so it's not as good

vital meadow
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Oh

ripe ivy
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144Hz is good, it's what let's you see the high framerates

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Well perceive the high framerate

vital meadow
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Ok so I can see 144fps

ripe ivy
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Yeah if you can manage a framerate that high consistently, it'll be a smooth experience as long as games are running above 100fps

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And uh yeah the 5700XT will do that well at 1080p

vital meadow
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Does my cpu matter in fps?

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That I get in games

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Or just my graphics card

ripe ivy
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Yeah sort of, it's gotten to the point where 1080p is sort of limited by CPU performance

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So a faster CPU will benefit for higher framerates a lot of the time

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But that doesn't matter too much for say AAA games at max settings

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Like even with a 10400 you'll see probably over 200FPS in certain e-sports games if you play any of those

vital meadow
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I’m hoping I can play cyberpunk at max settings when it comes out with over 100fps that sounds good

ripe ivy
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I guess we'll find out if or when it comes out? phaWesker

vital meadow
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What graphics card and processor do you have

ripe ivy
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Ryzen 5 2600 and Radeon RX 580

vital meadow
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Is that better than mine

ripe ivy
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Uh I would say no

vital meadow
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I think your graphics card is better than mine

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More performance

ripe ivy
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Nah it can't be, it's older

vital meadow
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Some older cards can be better than new ones can’t they?

ripe ivy
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Sure, but that's if you're comparing a lower end newer card to a higher end older card or something like that

vital meadow
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Is your processor better than I5-10400?

ripe ivy
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RX 580 is giving high end performance from like 2014 or something

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Just barely enough to do alright at 1080p

vital meadow
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What do you mean ?

ripe ivy
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And uh depends honestly

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Probably not though

vital meadow
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So my processor is just enough for 1080p

ripe ivy
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No

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Processor is only relevant at 1080p, if you were going for a higher resolution like 1440p it actually matters less

vital meadow
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Oh

ripe ivy
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When I said barely enough to do alright at 1080 I was referring to my graphics card

vital meadow
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Li was going to buy a 1440p monitor but I don’t think I’ll get over 100fps

ripe ivy
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Eh turning down settings can do wonders

vital meadow
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Ye true

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Do you have a gaming headset

ripe ivy
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Nah, I use regular headphones

vital meadow
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I got a gaming one but I used to use regular apple headphones

opaque stratus
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5700 xt vs 2060 s who's better?

vital meadow
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That’s what I have

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I don’t know though sorry

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@opaque stratus If you get a 5700xt make sure it’s Gaming X that’s what someone told me

ripe ivy
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5700XT is steadily beating the 2060 Super on average, even competing with the 2070 Super

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It comes down to if you need Cuda, Nvenc or I dunno want RTX?

opaque stratus
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My 5700 xt broke so i change it for a 2060 s

ripe ivy
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Features sell

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You couldn't RMA it?

opaque stratus
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i did that xd

frozen seal
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thats a rough exchange

vital meadow
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@opaque stratus get a rtx 3090 that’s the best one

ripe ivy
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Oh okay, did you opt for your money back or?

opaque stratus
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i changed it mostly for the RTX i think cyberpunk will run better on a 2060 s ,no?

ripe ivy
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It'll run, and you'll have RTX sure

vital meadow
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I used to have a rtx 2060 and it was amazing

ripe ivy
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I don't think it will be better though

vital meadow
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I59600kf and rtx 2060 I had

frozen seal
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but you'll have to have it a prolly medium setting at 1080 for rtx

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with the 2060S that is

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and thats for 50-60 fps most likely

opaque stratus
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i dunno i just got mad because the 5700 xt broke on a week so i changed to nvidia again xd

ripe ivy
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What was it specifically?

frozen seal
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how exactly did it break?

bold hemlock
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HIi

opaque stratus
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i just install it normaly and the sometimes black screen of death

ripe ivy
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Oh did you have an nvidia card before then?

opaque stratus
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i tried fix it by my self with drivers and that but on a week got bored so i sent it for warranty

bold hemlock
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It was probably a driver problem

opaque stratus
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@ripe ivy yeah i had nvidia before

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It wasn't driver problem

ripe ivy
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Oh uh what did you do driver wise?

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DDU, fresh install and all that?

bold hemlock
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Anyways i am using a 5700xt right now and it doesn't give any problem

opaque stratus
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i sent it for warranty and they told me that when they test it, the GPU never gave image

ripe ivy
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Oh, a lemon

opaque stratus
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yeah it was a hardware problem

ripe ivy
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It can happen phaSheva

opaque stratus
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I just got mad for nothing xd

ripe ivy
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Who was the brand?

bold hemlock
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so it had some problems but it doesn't mean that all the amd 5700xt have it

opaque stratus
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8 GIGAS.GIGABYTE.AMD.RADEON RX 5700XT.OC.GAMING

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This was the card

bold hemlock
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Not bad

ripe ivy
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Oh okay Gigabyte, they've been doing pretty well on the cooler side of things lately

opaque stratus
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@bold hemlock i know i just got mad because i waited so much and pay a lot for that

ripe ivy
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For Radeon the best brands are Sapphire and Powercolor I would say

bold hemlock
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It isn't cheap but defenitely cheaper than the nvidia par

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part

pine rapids
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red devil, nitro+ and gaming x are top 3 best cards imo

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cooling and aesthetic wise

bold hemlock
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for the same performance

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what nvidia did you buy to replace it?

opaque stratus
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yeah i know, i just pay like $50 of difference for being mad, but i dunno if i did a good choice

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2060super

bold hemlock
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Considering that the 5700xt is almost a 2080 but without the rtx

opaque stratus
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slowdonw cowboy the 5700 xt is good but not thatttt god

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xd

bold hemlock
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it wasn't bad for the price, maybe you should have bought another one, hoping for no hardware problems haha

ripe ivy
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It actually is pretty close to that level of performance

bold hemlock
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It is, i tested it myself

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and you can also look for benchmarks on youtube

ripe ivy
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At stock it's easily on par with a 1080Ti

opaque stratus
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i dunno, i just can trust on the bencmark

pine rapids
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yea

ripe ivy
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With a little OC you're pushing pretty close

opaque stratus
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With OC i think it can be close but on stock i dunno

bold hemlock
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on stock it is basically a 2070 super

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little more

pine rapids
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if the game is optimized, its better

opaque stratus
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Stop making me feel bad for my choices xd

bold hemlock
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if amd starts using ray tracing with the directx 12, there would be no reasons to buy a nvidia card at all

pine rapids
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dlss is the only reason imo

bold hemlock
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if i remember right AMD has a similar filter

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let me check

ripe ivy
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Eh I mean even with DLSS on the table, the fact that it's proprietary and limited to games at the developer's discretion it's still not a selling point

pine rapids
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yea for their new cards

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they have a dlss alternative

ripe ivy
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They don't have one yet, but they're working on something

bold hemlock
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talking about the 5000 series, amd was still winning for the prices imo

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for the 6000 series they're trynna win with everything, they already have more power

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imagine if they make a smiliar ray tracing / dlss

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at that prices they said

ripe ivy
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From leaked benchmarks, the 6800 is already faster than the 3070 at raytracing when DLSS isn't the factor, though once you flip it on the 3070 takes the lead. So yeah they need an equivalent

pine rapids
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but once they make one

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6000 cards are gonna stomp in ray tracing

brisk flame
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the 6800 is also 80 dollars more than the 3070

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so it had better perform better overall

pine rapids
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i mean

ripe ivy
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If MSRP was even realistic

pine rapids
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ye

ripe ivy
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Have you seen a 3070 at MSRP?

brisk flame
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give it time

ripe ivy
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I think with time AMD will bring the price down anyway

brisk flame
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as of now, the 6800 will be the only option due to availability, yes

pine rapids
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do you guys know how the evga queue works

brisk flame
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but once the 3070+ moves to TSMC, they sould be much more available

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i highly doubt AMD will adjust msrp

ripe ivy
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Yeah I doubt they're going to be moving things to TSMC

brisk flame
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highly

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they are tho

ripe ivy
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They will for like a refresh of some kind

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But at that point, it's not going to be the same cards

brisk flame
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thats what i would expect, do a super/ti variant on tsmc, gives them an opportunity to combat amds pricing

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but ampere availability in general should be much better

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by then

ripe ivy
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I wouldn't expect that, they're going to use what they have from Samsung because they have no choice to for the time being

brisk flame
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yes, for now

ripe ivy
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An Ampere refresh will happen I think

sinful crater
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No budget, i need a gpu that can do 1080p 144hz high settings on most games

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No overkill tho

frozen seal
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rtx or no rtx

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thats basically just the difference between a 3070/3080 and a 6800xt

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3070 for no rtx

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3080/6800xt for rtx

limpid latch
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is it6800 stomp in ray tracing as in suck,yes! lol

sinful crater
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Rtx 😈😈😈

hollow heath
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Hello

daring tusk
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so does that mean a 3070 wouldnt perform well with RTX in 1080p 144Hz?

limpid latch
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id suspect it would perform similar to a 2080ti w/ ray tracing?

frozen seal
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better with ray tracing

hollow heath
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Is the 2080TI still better than a 3070?

frozen seal
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slightly

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not with ray tracing tho

spice prawn
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raster performance is currently better

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and if the vram matters

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there is that part too

limpid latch
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give or take takes blows at eachother but like naed said

sinful crater
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hmmm

hollow heath
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So if I find a 2080TI for 500 it's pretty much the same thing?

spice prawn
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if you dont need/want the RT improvements? basically yes

hollow heath
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Damn I wanna find one but for 500 it's like almost impossible

limpid latch
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check ebay saw a week ago someone w/ a kingpin 2080ti w/ radiator for 400

hollow heath
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Fr?

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I see 700 the cheapest

ripe ivy
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For a used card?

hollow heath
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Yeah

rose adder
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evga b stock is pretty good value

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2070 super $360

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idk how much the 2080 ti's are going for tho

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you also get 1 year warrenty

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gotta setup a web alert to check when they restock or else you will miss it though, they sell out in like ~30 mins or so

jovial goblet
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idk how much the 2080 ti's are going for tho
@rose adder last time they were in bstock, they sold for around 650-750 depending on the kind of shroud it had

rose adder
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yike that's too expensive

limpid latch
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still no stepup tho

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better off getting a moderate 2000 and stepup and wait for 3080ti

glass briar
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You guys think I will get 100 FPS on fortnite with the 3090? I got it yesterday

sinful crater
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nahh

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you need sli

dawn plover
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^^

sinful crater
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will a 2070 super get 144 fps in 1080p high settings paired with my 3700x non oc

ripe ivy
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144fps at what though?

dawn plover
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^^

hybrid kettle
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Csgo? Yes it will

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Crysis? No

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Maybe jk i don’t know anything about crysis except that it’s a meme

lone pond
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I bought this graphics card for $145

weary halo
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sooo what is it?

coarse spindle
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RTX 3080 in stock at CDW

hollow heath
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Should I back order a 3070?

daring tusk
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i thought there werent any 3070 back orders?

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who is doing the back order?

hollow heath
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CDW

daring tusk
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dont they are selling them over priced

hollow heath
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603 isn't too bad

daring tusk
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the pny revel one is at bestbuy for $539.99

ripe ivy
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600 for a 3070 is bad though phaSip

daring tusk
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the zotac one is 569.99 on newegg

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dont over pay just for a backorder

hollow heath
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Idkkkk

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I want one

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I could technically sell both my GPUs and get one

crisp ocean
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Zotac gpu is hopefully gonna be good

daring tusk
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the only reason i would justify overpaying is if you absolutely need one like if your current one is broken and you have to use a pc for work and you dont have another pc to use

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but if you did you wouldnt be back ordering

hollow heath
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Damn you got the 5600X and 3070? rip

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I can't catch a break

ripe ivy
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I understand the urgency, but like if you're graphics card that you're using now isn't literally dying; well then this shouldn't be urgent actually phaWesker

daring tusk
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exactly

hollow heath
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Yeah true

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I'm trynna sell my old GPU and nobody wants to buy it lol

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How much you think I can get for it

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It's an MSI 1070 TI AERO it's a blower card

dawn plover
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bruh you're still selling that thing

hollow heath
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Yes lmao

dawn plover
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haha

hollow heath
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I literally have it for sale at 250

dawn plover
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bring the price down to 200

hollow heath
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I might sell my old Mobo too

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B450 Tomahawk Max

dawn plover
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sheesh

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that still sells at like 100 bucks lmao

hollow heath
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Lol fr?

ripe ivy
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Well it came out last year, and it's still a very relevant budget board

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I guess the chipset is two years old

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But the Max designation let's it work for a while

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Like Zen 3 should be no problem to get working on it

hollow heath
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Jk jk

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The RTX 3070 will never be in stock lmaoo

dawn plover
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smh

hollow heath
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I did buy a 2070 tho

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EVGA 2070 XC Ultra

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What's the price on that?

crisp ocean
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The RTX 3070 will never be in stock lmaoo
@hollow heath try a microcenter if you have one near you

hollow heath
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I do not lol I'm in FLorida

dawn plover
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bruh i live in the silicon valley and like, there's no microcenter here smh the closest one is in tustin

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but yeah microcenters are a better if you want a higher guarantee rate of getting a card

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sorry if i worded that wrong im tired

frigid crypt
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I got to the Tustin one all the time lol

dawn plover
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you live by there?

frigid crypt
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Yeah, it’s always full. Seriously

dawn plover
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what a lucky individual

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if i wanted to go there i'd have to drive like 4-5 hours or so and at that point, i'd say it wouldn't be worth it lmao

frigid crypt
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They kinda suck when it comes to graphics cards. 1650 and smaller cards. I had to go to Best Buy online to get a gtx 1660 super.

frozen seal
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canada computers do be better tho

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they let you reserve a back-ordered card

dawn plover
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dang

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best buy only has a small corner of pc components

frigid crypt
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Yeah, Best Buy is an every person store, frys is in between and Microcenter is more niche

frozen seal
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frys?

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what?

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the US has a computer store named after its second favourite food?

dawn plover
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😳

frigid crypt
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Frys is an electronic store as well. They are a Best Buy but a little more nerdy. Not as much as micro center. Look them up. Frys computer or electronic store

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I actually got my first graphics card upgrade there years ago. Gtx 1050. Ah i remember it well. Didn’t have a clue what I was doing. Installed the card on the carpet!

dawn plover
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😳

ripe ivy
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Fry's is barely afloat from what I've been hearing

toxic bay
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hey can you guys help me out eith my gpu

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my rx460 4gb keeps on crashing it dosent over heat my temps are under 60 and when my gpu crashes the fa still spins

frozen seal
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whats your PSU?

toxic bay
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evga 450 watt bt 80 plus bronze non mondulare

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when ever i got my gpu it still was the same problem

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cause my psu my uncle gave it to me and before he did he used a rx 580 with my psu rn

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i have alredy but it did the same thing it just crashed

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cause my gpu rn is a gtx 760

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ik

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lmao

ripe ivy
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GTX 760, RX 460?

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Which is it?

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Okay, well you've cleaned the drivers between installations right?

toxic bay
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yea i did

ripe ivy
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Hmm what a shame phaSheva

toxic bay
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yea ik lmao

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lmao

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gonna go for a 1050 for 30 bucks lmao

ripe ivy
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Look for a Rx 470 or 480

toxic bay
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for crismas i might just ask for a new gpu

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yea im gonna go for nvida 30 series

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jk lmao im too broke to get tht

ripe ivy
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Well even if you could ~450w PSU phaWesker

toxic bay
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lmao

arctic phoenix
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oh no

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if u get a 1050 for 30$

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that things gonna be a gtx 430 with a modded vbios

hollow heath
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Lmao

brazen rune
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anyone know what the amd equivalent will be to the rtx 3060ti?

lone pond
limpid latch
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already got a 3090

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harder to sell now not worth higher prices

hollow heath
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Lol true

hollow heath
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He was scamming

flat cedar
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Hey I could use some advice on graphics cards. Right now I have a RTX 2060 and can run Assassin's Creed at 1440p at around 60-70 fps on medium, but want to be able to run it on a higher setting with better frames, what do you think would be adequate?

hollow heath
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Well what’s your budget

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And how much more fps? @flat cedar

flat cedar
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Budget isn't an issue, something in the 100 range hopefully, I have a 144hz monitor but am not expecting to maintain that all the time.

hollow heath
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Well you could go for a 2070 super or wait for the 3070

hollow zephyr
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should my friend get a 5700xt paired with r5 3600xt?

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or a prebuilt with a 10700f and 2060s

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he doesnt want to wait for the new cards being that he's still in hs so his christmas break is pretty limited

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so pretty much out of the question

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but go team red or team blue?

hollow heath
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Well

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Can I see the specs for both?

hollow zephyr
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mmm hol up

hollow heath
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Bet

steel smelt
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I'd say this is more about going team green or team red

hollow zephyr
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you mean blue lmao

steel smelt
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No, the graphics cards

hollow zephyr
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i also forgot to mention that 3600xt will have a b550 mb

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ohh lmao

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i was worried about the futureproofing of the machine itself

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not so much ab the graphics

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either option is nice either way

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his budget is exactly $1000

steel smelt
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Oh okay. For furture proofing the AMD is better because you can always upgrade to the 5000 series on the same board

hollow heath
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True

hollow zephyr
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yeah really the only benefit imo

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i wanted to use something with at least 6 cores

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wait another option has arrived

steel smelt
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was there a reason you wanted the 3600xt over the 3600x or 3600?

hollow zephyr
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its less expensive lmao

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all the prices have skyrocketed

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trust me i wouldve picked the 3600 if it was cheaper

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i have a cooler for him so its not a problem that it doesnt ship with one

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this is the building route

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the 5700xt is $420 rn has an extra $40 off

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more room for some storage

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possibly even a pcie 4.0 drive

steel smelt
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If you wait until black friday, or maybe before then, you should be able to find a 3600 for much less. Either way though, the AMD system is more future proofed, and you could buy a 2060 for 350-450

hollow zephyr
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u sure about the 3600

jovial goblet
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get a 3600xt instead

hollow zephyr
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im more than sure they're going to stop production

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and the xt is priced just right

jovial goblet
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it will be just as cheap when black friday comes

hollow zephyr
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but that other prebuilt comes with a 3700x and a 2060s

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just no b550 mb

jovial goblet
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thats a good deal

hollow zephyr
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ikr

jovial goblet
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but needs a mobo upgrade

hollow zephyr
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not necessarily

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he wouldnt need to until he upgrades the processor

steel smelt
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If you're comfortable with the price then go for it. I'm building a similar rig for my roomie, I had the same debate. I'm going to risk seeing if they pop back up. A week ago you could get a 3600x for 199.99

jovial goblet
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if you were to upgrade to a 5600x in the future

hollow zephyr
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which he wouldnt be doing

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hes not lmao

hollow heath
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Lol

jovial goblet
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that build is solid for the price

hollow zephyr
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yeah i'd rather build it myself

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have a beefier psu

jovial goblet
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theres a seasonic focus gold

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its 79

hollow zephyr
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whats the wattage

jovial goblet
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550w gold 80+ for 79 is a good deal

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semi modular

hollow zephyr
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wanna go minimum 650W tho

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for upgradability

jovial goblet
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3070?

hollow zephyr
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the gpu he might wanna upgrade

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yeah

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or future cards within the next year

steel smelt
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That motherboard can run a 5000 series CPU for future proofing, I have a B550M MORTAR with a 5600x in it.

hollow zephyr
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you got one???

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lucky

steel smelt
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But with the graphics card.

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I would say either is a solid pick-up, just depends on the price you can grab them for.

hollow zephyr
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yeah no doubt

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he plays really similar games to what i play

jovial goblet
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i made a list for a friend 3 weeks before the 5600x dropped

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it had a 3700x

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now hes waiting for a 3080

hollow zephyr
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and i run everything pretty much maxed at 1440p

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too long of a wait for my friend Sick

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he got like 2 weeks off for school

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hs vibes lmao

jovial goblet
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also felt bad for my friend since he waited for the 3070 drop but he didnt get one

hollow zephyr
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rip

steel smelt
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One thing you can do right now is pick up your parts from places like NewEgg or MicroCenter with Black Friday price guarantees. That way if things go cheaper you'll get a refund.

hollow zephyr
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true

steel smelt
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SirU that sucks man

jovial goblet
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oh

hollow zephyr
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yeah i'll have him start picking up stuff rn then

jovial goblet
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try evga bstock for psus @hollow zephyr

hollow zephyr
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that too

jovial goblet
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there are tons there for sale at 80+ gold efficiency

hollow zephyr
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nah i saw a sick deal on a 2080s for like $450

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sold out tho

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apparently this is on sale for 90

jovial goblet
hollow zephyr
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wait thats actually sick

jovial goblet
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kek the one on bstock is cheaper

hollow zephyr
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yeah ill have him start buying tomorrow

jovial goblet
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i think bstock restocks every sunday or monday

hollow zephyr
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sum like that

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i'll have him look for stuff on mid-week madness too

steel smelt
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Yeah, I'd go with the above over what you have listed. Nice find @jovial goblet

jovial goblet
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i like checking bstock

hollow zephyr
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me too whenever im looking for someone lmao

jovial goblet
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they have a gtx titan for 350

hollow zephyr
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helped some kid the other day at bestbuy

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he almost bought into all the rgb and not the specs ROFLEgg

jovial goblet
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id rather have rgb just on my fans than anywhere else

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and id rather have it on white or purple than going rainbow

hollow zephyr
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yeah thats the only place they had it charging $800 for single channel 8gb ram clocked at prolly 2133mhz

jovial goblet
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damn

hollow zephyr
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frfr

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they almost scammed my man

jovial goblet
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thats not worth it

hollow zephyr
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gave him my discord

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yeah that'd be an awful feeling

jovial goblet
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last time i went to best buy to buy pc stuff, the salesman thought he knew more than me and tried downselling me

hollow zephyr
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buying what would be a midrange priced pc and you get garbage

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yeah i educated that kid and his mom on everything

jovial goblet
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i also wouldnt recommend buying pcs on the phone with sales rep for certain brands

hollow zephyr
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i wouldnt even think of doing that lmao

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so we're going the building route i suppose?

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am i waiting for the 3600 or 3600x to go on sale or just cop the 3600xt

jovial goblet
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ibuypower, cyberpower, origin, and nzxt are good pc builders

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just get the 3600xt

hollow zephyr
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im giving him my wraith prism if i end up getting an aio

jovial goblet
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at least they dont use proprietary motherboards with only 2 ram channels

steel smelt
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I'd say get the 3600xt withg the price right now, but if you see a 3600x for 199.99 or a 3600 for 150 grab that instead.

hollow zephyr
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so i buy the 5700xt at 380 i assume?

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idk i'll ask him and see what he wants

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he doesnt know much

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but just having the option of waiting

steel smelt
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is there a reason that you're leaning towards a 5700xt over a 2060?

jovial goblet
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the 5700xt is better

hollow zephyr
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5700xt is better

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for only 80 more its worth the jump

steel smelt
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true

hollow zephyr
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and drivers arent an issue anymore

steel smelt
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Personally I just have a hard time looking at spending 400 plus on a card right now knowing that the next gen will be aorund that price for a bunch more performance

hollow zephyr
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exactlyyy

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but he doesnt want to spend his whole christmas break doing nothing

steel smelt
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that's a fair point

hollow zephyr
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i told him he wouldnt be able to get his hands on the new gen consoles for a minute either

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so he's stuck waiting egardless

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*regardless

steel smelt
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yeah, unless he wants to camp out a store on release lol

hollow zephyr
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lmao nah

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i prefer 1440p at 144hz over 4k 60

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pretty sure he would too

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just a better experience

steel smelt
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I'm comfy at 1440p. Just want me some good raytracing 😛

hollow zephyr
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yeah same

next swan
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I have an Rex 1660ti

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Rex

hollow zephyr
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im waiting till like feb to cop one

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possibly a 6900xt if money is good

lone pond
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what do you think about the 6800?

steel smelt
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if all you want is 1440 with ray tracing you'll be good with a 3070 or 6800

hollow zephyr
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i think its nice for the money

fervent obsidian
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can't think much until we see reviews

lone pond
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ok thank you

hollow zephyr
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^^^6

lone pond
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what

hollow zephyr
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looking for a good 1080p machine tho

lone pond
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i not good with part picking

hollow zephyr
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lmao rip

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nah i just need help on telling my friend why pc is still better than console

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he just needs to experience it for himself ig

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he's stuck on the original xbox one

lone pond
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upgradablity
ray trasing

hollow zephyr
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i've never had to blink so many times trying to render what is going on

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literal garbage

lone pond
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cusimizability rgb

hollow zephyr
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lmao

steel smelt
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Right now, It's a really hard to make that point though. A PS5 or the new Xbox cost the same as just a 3070 and they run great at 1440p

lone pond
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true

hollow zephyr
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yeah but no tv runs 1440p

steel smelt
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I still prefer my PC over a console, it's just a hard point to make right now

lone pond
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but a pc can be used for many things

fervent obsidian
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anyone with a brain would never go back to console

hollow zephyr
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and a good amount of 4k tvs dont support 120hz

lone pond
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unless you boot linux on an xbox if you can

hollow zephyr
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and he only has a 32" tv for his console rn

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literally no point of getting the new consoles

lone pond
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oh that is kinda small

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yea i guess

steel smelt
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Lads I'm with you. I love my PC and only play a PS4 for exclusives. I was just saying it's hard to tell non PC gamers this with the quality of the new consoles .

hollow zephyr
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creating a solid 1080p 144hz is so much better than the ne consoles imo

lone pond
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yea

hollow zephyr
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he doesnt care about exclusives either lmao

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maybe the new halo

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and even then thats on pc now

steel smelt
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Halo will be on PC though

hollow zephyr
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ik i just said lmao

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he only ever plays cod

lone pond
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if i was going to stay on pc i would also stick with the switch

hollow zephyr
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not even utilizing the specs of the new consoles

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if hes not on a 4k tv

lone pond
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yea

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i still have a 1080 60hz tv for my xbox

hollow zephyr
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idk when hes gonna upgrade tho

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i have an old pc lying around might throw some new stuff in there

lone pond
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he might upgrade if he has the money

hollow zephyr
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and some of my current stuff when i upgrade

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yeah

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just need him to come over and experience what it like to not lag from rendering

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and it actually look good

lone pond
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yea

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that is a big part about pcs

hollow zephyr
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yeah

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they're nice

lone pond
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i have not made one myself but i have heard alot of great things

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and i need to get better at typing

hollow zephyr
#

same here

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trying to get up to 100wpm

warped osprey
#

msi's 1660 super ventus is at a pretty good value

hollow zephyr
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i'd rather wait

warped osprey
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for what?

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a better gpu?

viral elbow
#

By the time the 3070 and 3080 stock becomes normal, a new gpu would probably be announced

warped osprey
#

and with pricing logic the price of the 3070 and 3080 would probably have lowered by that time

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i see

viral elbow
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True

warped osprey
#

but what if you need a pc right now and just can't wait another 3 or 4 years for a new gpu

viral elbow
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Yea so get the 1660 s now

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So by the time you need an upgrade it would be justified

fossil talon
#

Black Friday probably has a better deal for the 1660

viral elbow
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Exactly

fossil talon
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Like go for the 1660ti or super (basically same model)

warped osprey
#

would b.f apply to online shopping too?

fossil talon
#

B.f ?

warped osprey
#

actually i never really knew the difference between ti models and super models

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black friday

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i call it b.f for short

viral elbow
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From what I’ve watched I think there aren’t much difference to worth the price difference on msrp

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I could be wrong

fossil talon
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For the 1660, ti and super are practically the same. They are just more vram and higher clocked than the regular 1660.

warped osprey
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i think the super models are like a wanna-be ti

fossil talon
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The rest of the line up though is different. The ti is generally better than super.

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i think the super models are like a wanna-be ti
@warped osprey
Pretty much 👌

viral elbow
#

Honestly I was hoping to get the 3000, and then the stock situation happened, and now I’ve lost hope for the amd cards too, so might as well just get the 5700xt on Black Friday

fossil talon
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You could try getting the RX 6000s this Wednesday

viral elbow
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Oh right it’s Wednesday

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Almost forgot

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Do you happen to know the launch time?

fossil talon
#

Yep, I swear it's going to be as hard or worse than the RTX 3000s releases

warped osprey
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hopefully stocks are gonne be at least better than Nvidia's crash

fossil talon
#

I'm not sure actually. I don't think AMD has a release time yet

viral elbow
#

That would suck, I guess I’ll just wake up early

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Or stay up, I gotta finish an essay anyway

fossil talon
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Or design python bots....well that failed for me

viral elbow
#

Yea it’s rough out there

warped osprey
#

imagine camping in front of a micro center or local computer store and realize you couldn't even get it

viral elbow
#

That would suck majorly

fossil talon
#

Ngl, at least those people are more civilized than the election protests

viral elbow
#

I would probably have a breakdown

warped osprey
#

lol

fossil talon
#

Like they have roll calls and line ups

warped osprey
#

have you seen bitwit's vid on it?

fossil talon
#

I've seen Austin Evans, Bitwit and several other youtubers

viral elbow
#

I stopped watching bitwit after that racist video

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💀that’s just me

warped osprey
#

ouf

fossil talon
#

Oh........

warped osprey
#

i mean he cool now i guess

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that perspective differs to each person

fossil talon
#

Isn't this absurd

viral elbow
#

Objectively speaking From what I remember he did have some resourceful video tho

warped osprey
#

lemme guess stock bad

fossil talon
#

Price stonks

viral elbow
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Lmao, stockx wants a piece of that pie too

fossil talon
#

Lol ikr

viral elbow
#

Sneaker scalping isn’t enough for them and now pc tech too

fossil talon
#

I'm honestly debating about selling mine. If I get the RX 6800 or XT, I'll sell my 3070, if not I'll keep it.

hollow heath
#

Fr

warped osprey
hollow heath
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Lol please don’t sell and if you do sell it

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I’ll buy it for retail lol

viral elbow
#

I mean, it’s a crappy thing to do, but then, capitalism do be like that

warped osprey
#

put it on a shelf and put a sticky note beside it and write, biggest disappointment

fossil talon
#

Ik, I want to be ethical but then people are offering insane prices

viral elbow
#

It kind of feel justified, and almost stupid when you’re not participating

fossil talon
#

Basically alot of unnecessary stress

warped osprey
#

i mean the performance of the 6000 series gpus is insane

fossil talon
#

Ikr

viral elbow
#

kekw and cheaper

warped osprey
#

and at half or third of the price ye

fossil talon
#

Welcome to competition

viral elbow
#

It’s a great time to be a gamer

warped osprey
#

welcome to this shiz is now overpriced luxurious golden turd

fossil talon
#

Golden turd......hmmmmm Trident Z Royals

warped osprey
viral elbow
#

peepoSadSip back when $500 was the top dog price range

fossil talon
#

Paying $$ for fake gem RGB ram

warped osprey
#

ye paying some top dollar for bad ram lol

hollow heath
#

Lol

viral elbow
fossil talon
#

I'm planning to buy white corsair vengeance pro 32gb 3600mhz on B.R

warped osprey
wheat wharf
#

lmao

#

the only thing that is getting better these days is tech

fossil talon
#

Honestly true

#

Tech has saved 2020

warped osprey
#

i beg to differ

#

sometimes it gets overpriced

wheat wharf
#

ye the 3070 is 750$ here

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and it's not even an oc

fossil talon
#

$715 in Canada

warped osprey
#

pricing on tech really is all over the place huh

wheat wharf
#

$715 in Canada
@fossil talon which dollar

#

canadian or us

fossil talon
#

CAD

warped osprey
#

Canadian dollar

wheat wharf
#

im talking abt us

fossil talon
#

So $675 plus GST

wheat wharf
#

750 us

hollow heath
#

Rip

warped osprey
#

but wouldn't it cost more in Canada

fossil talon
#

Wait it can't be $750 USD, are you talking about current market pricing

wheat wharf
#

in my country it's 750

fossil talon
#

Like it should be $500 USD MSRP

wheat wharf
#

nope

#

750

#

here

fossil talon
#

Rip

wheat wharf
#

yep

warped osprey
#

what kinda state are u in

wheat wharf
#

i bought an rtx 2060 super

warped osprey
#

thats a good value card tbh

wheat wharf
#

what kinda state are u in
@warped osprey well i wish i went to the us this year

fossil talon
#

Yep dw, still performs amazingly

wheat wharf
#

i needed a pc fast

#

for school

warped osprey
#

its a perfect card for most cpus

fossil talon
#

Yes^^^

wheat wharf
#

i just game

#

and it gives me a great amount of frames

#

so im good

hollow heath
#

Isn’t a 2070 about the same as a 2060 super

warped osprey
#

i love the "for school" thing people say when they try to convince someone

wheat wharf
#

Isn’t a 2070 about the same as a 2060 super
@hollow heath ye

fossil talon
#

I do alot of SolidWorks, so I needed the boost in cpu/GPU performance

wheat wharf
#

i love the "for school" thing people say when they try to convince someone
@warped osprey nope i mean it

hollow heath
#

I just got a 2070

wheat wharf
#

for how much

fossil talon
#

@warped osprey nope i mean it
@wheat wharf
Engineering student. I actually need it for autocad and programs

warped osprey
#

Isn’t a 2070 about the same as a 2060 super
@hollow heath and thats why we have something called bargains

fossil talon
#

And I also game, hence RTX vs Quadro

wheat wharf
#

@wheat wharf
Engineering student. I actually need it for autocad and programs
@fossil talon my old pc broke a month before school started so i had time to get a new one

warped osprey
#

i feel like gpus have peaked

wheat wharf
#

is the 1080 still worth it

#

just asking

warped osprey
#

yes

fossil talon
#

Yes

warped osprey
#

well

wheat wharf
#

how much is it

warped osprey
#

kinda

fossil talon
#

Not many things can run 4k smoothly yet

warped osprey
#

it beats 2060

fossil talon
#

And 8K is terribly far

wheat wharf
#

Not many things can run 4k smoothly yet
@fossil talon 3080

warped osprey
#

ahem 6000 series gpus

wheat wharf
#

that thing runs it pretty nice

#

ahem 6000 series gpus
@warped osprey never was an amd gpu fan

fossil talon
#

I don't mean graphics cards, I mean displays and programs that can handle it

wheat wharf
#

oh ok

warped osprey
#

8k tv with 144hz or 75hz

fossil talon
#

Realistically, the average consumer uses 1080-1440p

wheat wharf
#

ye

warped osprey
#

but our tech is big bad so we have 60hz xap

wheat wharf
#

i use 1080p lmao 😩

warped osprey
#

cap*

fossil talon
#

Like who has a 8k or 4K ultra hdr 144hz display

warped osprey
#

rich people

hollow heath
#

Lol 2070 for 347

warped osprey
#

duh

wheat wharf
#

lmao

hollow heath
#

Good price?

wheat wharf
#

Lol 2070 for 347
@hollow heath for 347$

hollow heath
#

USD

wheat wharf
#

woah

#

great price

#

wtf

fossil talon
#

Damn that's sweet

wheat wharf
#

like actually

warped osprey
#

thats some big boi dollars in canada

wheat wharf
#

i got my 2060 super for 500

hollow heath
#

I bought it from a canadian that bought a 3090

wheat wharf
#

and he got a 2070 for 350

#

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I bought it from a canadian that bought a 3090
@hollow heath so used?

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still great

hollow heath
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It’s an EVGA 2070 XC Ultra

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Yeah

warped osprey
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cheapest 2060 super (on amazon in canada) is like 450

wheat wharf
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cheapest 2060 super (on amazon in canada) is like 450
@warped osprey lmao

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is it a zotac mini

warped osprey
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evga has some good deals sometimes

fossil talon
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Yea, CAD pricing isn't that bad. Sometimes we are exactly the conversion pricing or $15-20 more. Also I've seen some cases where we were cheaper than the US

warped osprey
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msi

wheat wharf
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oh

warped osprey
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actually its not 450

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the one in my cart is 360

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msi 1660 super ventus

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always low stock cuz of the price

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usually 5 to 20 are in atock

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stock*

hollow heath
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Hm

wheat wharf
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my friend bought a 1660 ti with a 10700 isnt that a bit overkill for th gpu

fossil talon
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Oh that's right, Nvidia limited its suppliers for other cards just for the release of the 3000s cards

warped osprey
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bruh

fossil talon
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my friend bought a 1660 ti with a 10700 isnt that a bit overkill for th gpu
@wheat wharf
Are they only gaming?

warped osprey
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probably streaming

wheat wharf
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yes

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only gaming

fossil talon
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Yep a bit overkill

warped osprey
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bruh with that cpu i thought they would be streaming

wheat wharf
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lmao

fossil talon
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It's fine honestly, they just future proof themselves

wheat wharf
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well ima head out for now

warped osprey
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isnt there some sort of major bottleneck tho

wheat wharf
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idk

viral elbow
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Is that overkill tho?

fossil talon
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Oh wow specs are close

hollow heath
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Damn

warped osprey
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its a 10th gen i7 if im correct

wheat wharf
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yep

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not the k tho

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he got the locked

viral elbow
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I mean idk but that’s interesting

warped osprey
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(10gen){700model} got it

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doesnt k also have integrated graphics

fossil talon
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Yep^^

warped osprey
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intel integrated graphics

wheat wharf
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i used to get 60 fps on mc br

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and get frame dips

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😂

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java wasnt playable

warped osprey
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i used to get 60 fps on mc br
@wheat wharf mc br hmm, Minecraft battle royale lol

wheat wharf
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no bedrock

warped osprey
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ik il

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ik

wheat wharf
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lmao

warped osprey
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oh shiz my battery at 1 cya later peoples

clear goblet
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how to use rtx 3090 as egpu?

warped osprey
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what

viral elbow
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Minecraft hunger games were the OG battle royals games along side with H1Z1 and Arma III mods

warped osprey
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yes

fossil talon
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how to use rtx 3090 as egpu?
@clear goblet
With a Razer Core or other egpu case

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Like I don't think the 3090 fits any egpu case

warped osprey
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whats an egpu?

wheat wharf
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external

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gpu

warped osprey
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ah ok

fossil talon
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External gpu that connects to your PC/laptop through thunderbolt

clear goblet
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@clear goblet
With a Razer Core or other egpu case
@fossil talon How much that cost usually?

warped osprey
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big bucks maybe

viral elbow
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^

dreamy dragonBOT
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hchilazi2#3123 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wheat wharf
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for god sake

fossil talon
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Oops long link

warped osprey
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my guy say the good good

fossil talon
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But I doubt the 3090 will fit it. It's legit the chunkiest GPU you can buy

warped osprey
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big chonker

fossil talon
warped osprey
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the tri fan 3090 be like: no case can hold me

fossil talon
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Also another option for the 3000s EGPUs

warped osprey
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have u ever seen a quad fan gpu

fossil talon
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Yes lol

warped osprey
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bruh u have a link to one?

hollow heath
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Have y’all seen the Rtx 3080 extreme

fossil talon
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My friend made a case mod

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Have y’all seen the Rtx 3080 extreme
@hollow heath
Literally has a LCD display in it

warped osprey
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ikr

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that stuff is sick

wheat wharf
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lmao

warped osprey
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wish i had the money to buy it

hollow heath
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@fossil talon and it’s THICCCCC

wheat wharf
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my wallet has umm wow a butterfly flew out

warped osprey
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its literally half the price of my pc

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my wallet is on life support

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if i wake up late then i dont have to make breakfast

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money saved

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lol

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or i could just live off of ramen noodle cups for a few weeks

fossil talon
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I'm willing to spend another $500-800CAD for the RX 6000s

hollow heath
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Chonk

warped osprey
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im willing to spend reasonably

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how does 50 bucks sound

wheat wharf
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LMAO

warped osprey
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i mean best i can do is 80 dollars

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damn silent treatment, alright fine I'll give you 100 for it

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lol

hollow heath
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Lmao

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Sunbreaker if you get a RX 6000 pleaseee sell me your 3070

warped osprey
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imagine someone selling that card used

fossil talon
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Brand New and sealed lol

hollow heath
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Damn

warped osprey
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put it on a shelf or something and put a sticky note and write "biggest disappointment"

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"do not open you will be disappointed"

fossil talon
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I swear Linus has the rest of the stock in Canada

hollow heath
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Linus controls all the tech in Canada

warped osprey
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lol

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my phone died so im using my chromebook lol

hollow heath
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Rip

warped osprey
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the reason i have a chromebook and not a fire hazard of a "gaming" laptop is because i dont really game on a laptop, mostly productivity

wheat wharf
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is the 3070 bad

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cuz like y would u wanna sell it

hollow heath
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It’s not

wheat wharf
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ye ik

lone pond
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The 3070 will be performing around the 2080 ti level but better performance

wheat wharf
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but he's gonna sell it for some reason

hollow heath
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He said he might if he gets a RX 6000 gpu

wheat wharf
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oh ok

hollow heath
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Yeah

fossil talon
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Pretty much^^^

hollow heath
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You should sell me it I’ve been dying to get one lol

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I was there at launch and couldn’t get one cuz websites suck

jovial goblet
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rule 9?

hollow heath
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It’s not like he’s selling it rn or even mentioned selling it

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He said he might

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And I said if he does he should sell me it

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There’s no selling happening right now

vagrant light
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im thicc

lone pond
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Hey guys, I’m looking to buy a gpu in the price range of 300-350, maybe even a little more if it makes sense to over spend a little, and im a newbie and don’t really know what The best gpu that money can get me. Any recommendations?

fading shard
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Willing to spend about 200 more and get a rlly good gpu for your money?

lone pond
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5700 xt

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200 more is a stretch

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50 more is much more achievable

fading shard
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A stretch but if willing then it is good

lone pond
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yeah but a 5700 xt would last just as on especially on 1080p]

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its mainly cpu based

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buy me rtx 3070 i give 1 diamond minecraft no skem

fading shard
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No way really??????

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That’s a steal

lone pond
fluid star
orchid plume
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I'm trying to upgrade an Alienware Aurora R5 that was built with an Nvidia GTX 970 and 460W power supply. I have a new 850W EVGA power supply, & now looking for replacement for the 970 - but having trouble finding one. Computer case limits me to about 10.5 inches in length. Any help appreciated.

jovial goblet
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there are 5700xt gpus under 266mm (converted it from in to mm)

lone pond
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why is everyone upset at the 3070 ?

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Its 600 dollars