graphics-cards

[quasi geyser]

I haven't actually been paying attention to the 3070 launch, did they push it back indefinitely or something

[plucky fossil]

For bots im assuming

[quasi geyser]

After the 3080 disaster I wouldn't blame them

[fathom bear]

Yeah probably so they don’t get the page ids etc

[plucky fossil]

It's coming out tommorow

[quasi geyser]

OH

[clear frigate]

harder to tell a bot to watch a page if it isnt publicly know yet

[plucky fossil]

I want to buy

[quasi geyser]

Yeah definitely for bots then

[plucky fossil]

I hope I don't have to have fast hands to get a card

[fathom bear]

You absolutely do

My suggestion is to try the app

[plucky fossil]

Why the app?

[clear frigate]

guess im waking up at 6 since thats what newegg posted

and people and the companies said people on the app were getting their hands on them easier i believe

[fathom bear]

Newegg said half the buyers used the app

[plucky fossil]

Oh wow

[agile parrot]

microcenter and best buy are the only ones for fe cards if thats what you want

[clear frigate]

got me that bestbuy and newegg app

[plucky fossil]

I want the asus dual oc

[lone pond]

microcenter is like nowhere

[pliant verge]

ikr

[plucky fossil]

I have one like 30 minutes from me

[lone pond]

they only have like 20 stores

[pliant verge]

how many of you trying to get 3070

[plucky fossil]

Me

[normal hawk]

These new AMD GPU's So worth the wait

[clear frigate]

aye

[pliant verge]

i have one 5 hours away

[normal hawk]

Oh I moved my GPU's around, time to update my Specs

[fathom bear]

If you’re not already at microcenter

You’re not getting one

[pliant verge]

ik

[dusk oasis]

do you recommend me buy PNY dual fan 3070?

[pliant verge]

i have no money so i cant buy the 3070 yet 😦

[normal hawk]

Much better

[agile parrot]

if you can get an asus or FE one do it

[normal hawk]

Imma get me that 6900XT for sure

[agile parrot]

if they release one

[stoic folio]

So want do I get 3070 or rx 6800

[agile parrot]

3070 is $80 cheaper

has dlss and rtx to offer as well

i know alot of people have builds off of the actual card and the 6000 series is ugly as hell

[normal hawk]

Psssh its not ugly

[agile parrot]

compared to the FE 3000 series it is

[humble hemlock]

FE is deff classier looking

[agile parrot]

its all metal and its new fan setup is gorgeous

[normal hawk]

FE was discontinued for the 3080 already though wasn't it?

[agile parrot]

no

its being sold through best buy

and the 70 fe will be through best buy and microcenter

[normal hawk]

Ah, they stopped on their own store

[humble hemlock]

i wonder if a 6800xt will run well with Ryzen 7

[agile parrot]

you cant say the FE doesnt look beautiful

[humble hemlock]

it does

[normal hawk]

Never said it didn't, but the 6000 series doesn't look ugly

[agile parrot]

in comparison to the fe it does

[humble hemlock]

i think at this point you cant go wrong with either they are both 50% better that previous models

[agile parrot]

oh yeah its down to choice really

but no rtx and dlss for radeon is the kicker tbh

[normal hawk]

Price, preference, and what you are doing.

[quasi geyser]

the extra $80 is the kicker for me

I'll stick with the 3070

[shell mesa]

Do we know if there is going to be something like a 6600xt or should i wait to see if it wont come out

[quasi geyser]

If I can find one

[humble hemlock]

good luck

[normal hawk]

I'm gonna try to get the 6900XT but I doubt I'll be able to get it, Will be in Kuwait when it drops.

[quasi geyser]

I don't plan on building my new rig for another few months anyway

Waiting on my tax refund

[fathom bear]

If you can wait, that's almost always a good idea

I'm running ultrawide on a 1060, so I'd really like a new gpu

[quasi geyser]

I bought all my parts for my current build during that period where everything was super expensive

[clear frigate]

I just wanna have a card by december so I am willing to risk it and wait to see more benchmarks and stuff

[fathom bear]

I mean even if 3070 sells out, you can still try and get an amd card

[rich oasis]

@agile parrot delete

No selljng

[fathom bear]

Finally! a list!

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shop/geforce/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX 3070&gpu_filter=RTX 3090~13,RTX 3080~18,RTX 3070~27,RTX 2080 SUPER~16,RTX 2080~6,RTX 2070 SUPER~23,RTX 2070~18,RTX 2060 SUPER~2,RTX 2060~40,GTX 1660 Ti~28,GTX 1660 SUPER~2,GTX 1660~11,GTX 1650 Ti~7,GTX 1650 SUPER~7,GTX 1650~34

[clear frigate]

a list oooh

i do wish they had the cost for each on that list

[fathom bear]

No kidding

[humble hemlock]

dont know if thats a good thing gives bots a better chance at scooping them up\

[fathom bear]

Nvidia isn't selling them directly. It doesn't really matter

[clear frigate]

depends if it updates with a sellers list

[humble hemlock]

true

[clear frigate]

if its just showing the cards and some specs it wont be to bad if it has a chance to later add a where to buy when they go live then yes bad imo

[lone pond]

Should I wait for the new amd gpus or just pick up my 3080 in a couple weeks

[agile parrot]

up to you really but im happy i went with 3080 for the extra features nvidia offers

[spice prawn]

and what are those extra features (in your mind)?

[agile parrot]

Rtx, dlss

[spice prawn]

rtx = that is on the amd side too

[agile parrot]

Radeon uses directx raytracing which is garbage

[spice prawn]

so thats a wash

[lone pond]

What do you think ned

[agile parrot]

Not a wash

[spice prawn]

hahahahaha

[agile parrot]

Directx raytracing is in warzone

[spice prawn]

you do know that RTX is based on right?

[agile parrot]

Yes

[spice prawn]

as in, what is the actual spec its running right?

[lone pond]

:(

[agile parrot]

Still no dlss

[spice prawn]

DXR is the standard

so what you are calling garbage is what nvidia is using.

but, sure, lets leave that one to the side for now

[agile parrot]

Rtx is the better version of that

[spice prawn]

no, its not

[agile parrot]

Then why doesn't it actually raytrace like with minecraft or bfv

[spice prawn]

its just a name for the "implementation" that nvidia uses

which "it" are you talking about there?

[agile parrot]

The directx raytracing in warzone

Why doesn't that have the same results as in minecraft or bfv

[spice prawn]

different implementations

[agile parrot]

Or control

Or cold war

[spice prawn]

again, same.

[agile parrot]

So what's with dlss

[spice prawn]

that is a feature that amd does not have. (dont know if they are working on their take on it, but i imagine they are)

[agile parrot]

I imagine they are too, but dlss2.0 is already in games and it's going to be implemented in more

Nvidia shader settings in game, Nvidia broadcast, nvidia reflex

Nvidia GeForce now

[spice prawn]

and try and take a good hard long look at that list, because so far, the adaptation on DLSS has not exactly been good (for any of the versions of it, which btw nvidia efffed up royally on reporting clearly )

reflex = antilag is same-ish tech (not saying its a replacement, just saying its their take on it)

also, did you just call Geforce Now a feature for the GPU's?

[crisp ocean]

lol

[agile parrot]

Ok so not counting that

What about the shader settings in game

I personally use them quite a bit in warzone

Makes the game less bleak and gray and helps control shadows better

[spice prawn]

you mean, the enable/disable shaders in a game?

[agile parrot]

Yes

[spice prawn]

it should be there too

dont see why not

[agile parrot]

https://youtu.be/Ag-UeMq6YZk

The geforce experience thats what it's called

[spice prawn]

geforce experience is the tool for handling the settings for the gpu both in game and out of game.

[agile parrot]

Does radeon have that or something similar to it

[spice prawn]

never dealt with that game directly. So i have bugger all idea about that :)

but i dont see why it would not be there.

[agile parrot]

Check out the video

He explains it and shows it off better than I can explain

Because it makes the game look so much better and you can control all the settings for what you want your game to look like

[crisp ocean]

I think the 3070 > 6800, 3080 = 6800XT, and 3090 < 6900XT

[spice prawn]

that is imo a hack of what the game is supposed to look like.

[agile parrot]

A hack?

Lol

I haven't been banned yet then

[spice prawn]

you misunderstand.

[agile parrot]

That I don't want my game to boring and gray and I have full control of it?

[spice prawn]

what he suggests (and what you say you are playing with) is not a setting that is available IN the game.

[agile parrot]

yes but its nvidia only

radeon doesnt have that software to do it

[spice prawn]

so, what he does is a "hack" of the visuals of the game

[agile parrot]

ok i get what you are saying, but i would much rather be able to control what i see and get the better advantage

[spice prawn]

that part of it is a different talk all together :)

[agile parrot]

if you were to go radeon you lose that feature

[spice prawn]

and i am not saying that you cannot feel that

[wanton burrow]

if you're arguing with naed, you will lose

or he will go to bed

[spice prawn]

@wanton burrow no argument, just a debate

[agile parrot]

im not arguing im saying amd radeon doesnt have that feature

[wanton burrow]

that is literally the same thing

[agile parrot]

and its a big advantage to control the colors and shadows and sharpness like that

[spice prawn]

nah, he has a viewpoint, i have one. we are talking about the intersections of them.

[wanton burrow]

ok

[spice prawn]

its called having a talk about a subject.

[wanton burrow]

ok

see

i lost

[agile parrot]

i have a friend who is color blind and cant make out things in shadows, and warzone is full of some pretty horrible shading

[spice prawn]

@agile parrot i am very much not a fan of "not done by the game itself" modifications.

[agile parrot]

but with geforce experience he can tune the game to his advantage so he can see basically through dark shadows and corneres

[spice prawn]

because i am very much of the opinion that the DEV of the game should be the one to fix that

[agile parrot]

right they should fix it

[spice prawn]

if a dev cannot be bothered to fix that... im sorry, but they deserve a good solid slap to the head

[agile parrot]

lol

[spice prawn]

(and a kick between the legs)

because as i said, i am not trying to say you should not have the option

BUT

i have seen the history of the slippery slope that this leads to

its just MUCH simpler for everyone if the DEVS either enable or disable this

(as in, the ability for adjusting this in-game)

[stone raft]

did anyone else laugh when AMD guy was like "I loved using this videocard on LoL" as if that was gonna make us go "OMG SOOO COOOLL"

[spice prawn]

@agile parrot but, back to the GPU features :)

[agile parrot]

heat transfer

[spice prawn]

hm?

[agile parrot]

FE 3080 and 3090 have the new fan setup and heatsinks surrounding the card

that was one of the big things was the FE was the coolest card they have made

but not a mention of thermals with amd

[spice prawn]

so, if i put a jet engine fan on the COOLER of the gpu, that is a feature of the GPU?

[agile parrot]

if you offer it as a feature then its a feature right

[spice prawn]

its a side effect of the cooler design

for the FE model

[agile parrot]

which in turn makes it a feature because its something it utilizes and is only found in one model

[spice prawn]

which is using the type of cooler that none of the other manufacturers are.

[agile parrot]

the usage of the amd 5000 series to unlock the full features of the amd is also isolating its users

[spice prawn]

need i remind you of G-sync?

[agile parrot]

g sync is widely available now

and freesync compatible can do gsync

[spice prawn]

or any of the other tech that nvidia has limited to their hardware with their exclusive lock-in?

on that front. nvidia has NOT been a good thing for the gaming community

[agile parrot]

im saying now, in light of covid

there will be less cpus and gpus

and you need both

and a new mobo

[spice prawn]

where are the 3080 cards?

[stone raft]

^

[spice prawn]

(by the logic you are using)

(which i dont agree with at all)

[agile parrot]

by the same logic there will be less amd gpus

because they have to focus on cpu and gpu production

[spice prawn]

the current supply problem for nvidia stems from their choice of Samsung as the foundry

amd is using TSMC as foundry

[agile parrot]

and so is apple on the new iphone 12s

they are tied back as well

[spice prawn]

different fabrication process

meaning, different machines

[agile parrot]

yes but still they have less workers right now due to covid

less production

[spice prawn]

not saying we cannot talk about this, but unless you know a lot about foundries, you are going to get in trouble

[agile parrot]

ok well i dont lol

[spice prawn]

:)

[agile parrot]

but still the point stands

[lone pond]

I might unsubscribe from linus and jay. Clickbait titles like this. What am I supposed to do now, cancel my 3080 order and wait another month?

[agile parrot]

cpu and gpu and new mobo to fully use your new gpu

stick with the 3080

[spice prawn]

please just take my word for it. the public "oh noes! there will be less production" is WAY WAY overrated by the same public.

the people IN the foundries have been some of the safest people on the planet

[lone pond]

there has to be a limit. I've been waiting for new releases for months now

[spice prawn]

they are working in CLEAN rooms

[agile parrot]

they are basically same performance between the two cards

stick with the 3080, if the amd is better resell the 3080

[spice prawn]

@lone pond jay certainly aint earning himself any favours

but to walk it all the way back

[agile parrot]

there will be less 3080s until next year because of shortage, so you can resell for most likely at retail

[stone raft]

I might unsubscribe from linus and jay. Clickbait titles like this. What am I supposed to do now, cancel my 3080 order and wait another month?
@lone pond You waiting a month either way probably

[kind wigeon]

lol it isn't their fault nvidia released their GPUs months ago and eevrybody got hype

srsly

all the reasons I used to say nvidia over amd for gpu just vanished

ray tracing, their own version of dlss (i think)...

it's-

[spice prawn]

DLSS, Broadcast (and other features that leverage the software work that Nvidia has done in regards/relation to the NVenc block) <- those are things that yes, amd does not have.

no doubt about that.

[royal copper]

All of yt is basically clickbait lol

[agile parrot]

what pcie gen is amd

the radeon cards

[spice prawn]

4.0

[copper fern]

guys duel 970's sli or 1050 ti?

[spice prawn]

not something that matters as such @agile parrot

@copper fern neither.

[agile parrot]

i know i was just wondering

[kind wigeon]

1050 ti

for gaming

[copper fern]

i have a 1050 an was offered duel 970s

[kind wigeon]

actually

[agile parrot]

how much is the 1050ti

[kind wigeon]

no

neither

[copper fern]

200 some?

[spice prawn]

@copper fern there will be no driver support from january 2021

[agile parrot]

2060

[copper fern]

ahh

[kind wigeon]

@copper fern get rx 580 8 gb

for 180$

[copper fern]

everyone telling me to get that

but fs

[kind wigeon]

everybody says that for a reason

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD

smh

some people...

[agile parrot]

yeah do it

its better price and performance than 1660ti and 2060

[kind wigeon]

??

that's false

the 2060 is much better than an rx 580

[copper fern]

yaa

[agile parrot]

PRICE

[kind wigeon]

...

[agile parrot]

the 2060 is $40 more expensive

[kind wigeon]

it's not better than a 2060

the 2060 is much better

[copper fern]

no its a lil more

[kind wigeon]

price isn't a factor here

[copper fern]

well for me it is lol

[kind wigeon]

it's whatever fits in the budget

[agile parrot]

yeah

[kind wigeon]

not 'oh this is best price to performance'

[copper fern]

ill get money its ok

[kind wigeon]

bruh it's fine- whatever ur budget is, stick to that

[copper fern]

you're just saying whats better in general?

[kind wigeon]

rx 580 is best gpu for under 200 yea

but don't talk abt price when comparing gpus

just talk about whatever is in the budget

[agile parrot]

price is a big factor for some lol

[kind wigeon]

if it isn't in the budget, don't include it in the conversation

bruhhh

don't talk about it

[agile parrot]

he never said his budget

[kind wigeon]

if it isn't relevant

200 some?
@copper fern

budget ^^

[agile parrot]

and the 2060 is over

[kind wigeon]

it's not

@agile parrot you need to do some research lmao

[agile parrot]

anyway

@spice prawn anything else

[spice prawn]

nah, i was just curious what your take was. Because it seemed quite tilted towards one side, with a fair deal of misunderstandings mixed in

[agile parrot]

oh yeah, thanks for pointing out the other ups

[copper fern]

thx guys

[agile parrot]

and teaching me instead of the downtalk like someone else

[copper fern]

fr

people will do that due to my average knowledge of pc's

[spice prawn]

@agile parrot thank you for being openminded :) and you are very welcome :)

[agile parrot]

ill be back when the cards drop hehehe

[spice prawn]

:)

going to be interesting to see what happens first

amd cards arriving on shelves or nvidia cards

[fluid star]

What did amd today ?

Released 3080 killer?

[agile parrot]

i wouldnt say killer

but 3090 killer yes

[fluid star]

How :)

[lone pond]

What are the prices

[agile parrot]

the 3070 equivalent is $80 more on amd side

[wanton burrow]

what's happening

[agile parrot]

3080 equivalent is $50 cheaper on amd side

[fluid star]

Big navi 3090 killer ?

Performance ?

[agile parrot]

3090 equivalent is $400 cheaper on amd side

[fluid star]

Opps

[wanton burrow]

500

not 400

[fluid star]

Huge differant

Omg

[agile parrot]

my bad yeah

[fluid star]

500 ?

[wanton burrow]

3090 is still very viable for people who actually need the 24 GB of VRAM smh

[fluid star]

Wtf

[spice prawn]

relax on the hyping of yourself people.

[lone pond]

Yeah
I guess that's cool but if you're not gaming 4k then...

[wanton burrow]

ty man

[agile parrot]

performance of the games seems to be around even so far

[wanton burrow]

wait for 3rd person party reviews ffs

dude

wait for 3rd person party reviews ffs

[spice prawn]

no need for that language @wanton burrow

[lone pond]

fun police has arrived 🚨

[wanton burrow]

sorry

[agile parrot]

but yeah we wont know until the reviews drop

[wanton burrow]

^

ty

it could be good on paper but still have driver issues

or it could preform worse in real scenarios

[fluid star]

Why did u say not for 4k

[spice prawn]

also, it does not serve anyone to hype it up to silly levels :)

[lone pond]

all this hardware stuff is just hurry up and wait

[agile parrot]

yes i was bringing @fluid star up to speed since he asked what they showed

[spice prawn]

aye aye :)

[lone pond]

Wait for reviews wait for launch wait for reveal

[wanton burrow]

mhmm

[fluid star]

Whats the launced time

[fathom bear]

Release dates and times

RTX 3080: Sep. 17th 6am PT
RTX 3090: Sep. 24th 6am PT
RTX 3070: Oct 29th 6am PT

[spice prawn]

@fathom bear people dont read the pins

[fluid star]

Amd one

[faint kindle]

[fathom bear]

You didn't specify

[fluid star]

Yeah i meant

Np ty anyway

[faint kindle]

Is there a significant difference in gddr6 and r6x?

[fluid star]

7nm 16 gb pretty enough for gamers i think

[agile parrot]

While GDDR6 has a burst length of 16 bytes (BL16), GDDR6X is limited to BL8 or 8 bytes, but because of PAM4 signaling, each of its 16-bit channels will also deliver 32 bytes per operation. Therefore, most of the improvement in bandwidth has come from higher operating frequency on GDDR6X.

heres the source https://www.hardwaretimes.com/whats-the-difference-between-ddr4-vs-gddr5-vs-gddr6-vs-gddr6x/#:~:text=While GDDR6 has a burst,higher operating frequency on GDDR6X.

[spice prawn]

it boils down to differences in what the specific GPU architectures "need"

[agile parrot]

does amd have the same type of thing as direct storage for 30 series

i know its not available yet on the 30 series cards

nvmd, its through the games themselves being developed to use it

but still does amd have something like that?

[spice prawn]

aye

DirectStorage is a part of the directx "package/system/family"

basically, anything the new consoles can do, the 6000 series can do (with more bells and whistles)

[agile parrot]

ok thx

[normal hawk]

Auto HDR? :O

[proper jungle]

Just need a 3070 🤞

[fathom bear]

Did you get a 9700k?

From microcenter?

[upper mural]

[fluid star]

[stoic folio]

Will I be fine with a 650 power supply with a rx 6800

[dreamy dragon]

jaidenis#6614 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fading shard]

😦

[spice prawn]

@stoic folio in theory, yes

but we really really dont know details

[shell mesa]

isnt it jsut better to over speck anyways

[spice prawn]

to some degree, yes

a lot of the builds that come through here (that people post/ask about) are however over spec in a way that makes no logical sense

example: pay 150usd for a board that is good/decent at overclocking, in a machine that will be used for browsing the web and nothing else?

that is just a silly choice

[fathom bear]

but it's rgb

everybody gotta have rgb

[dusk oasis]

someone knows what’s the best under 100$, air cooling for ryzen 5 5000 series ?

[fathom bear]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1557428-REG/noctua_153767_nh_d15_cpu_cooler.html/?ap=y&smp=y

[spice prawn]

holy link paste @fathom bear :)

https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Dark-Rock-BK022-Cooler/dp/B07BY6F8D9 <- we prefer the links like this instead :)

[fathom bear]

Sorry my link exploded lol

[spice prawn]

:)

[crisp ocean]

Anything noctua will be good, even the inbox cooler isnt bad depending on what you're doing

[fathom bear]

I have the U12S and I can vouch that it's extremely quiet and a decent cooler for my i7

The NH-D15 cools more effectively, but it's larger.

[lone pond]

😄

[crisp ocean]

😄

[lone pond]

[crisp ocean]

[quasi geyser]

❓ 😄
wait for benchmarks 🙂

[lone pond]

nah just plug it in and hope

[quasi geyser]

lmao

[brittle root]

DOES anyone know when is the rtx 2070 starting to sell, since there's only the date

[crisp ocean]

I personally think that it doesn't matter which you choose, at this point its basically preference. I just prefer nvidia programs and drivers

[quasi geyser]

I would assume 6 am EST?

[crisp ocean]

its 6 am PST, 9 am EST

[lone pond]

fallen, im an nvidia fanboy

[quasi geyser]

@crisp ocean My thoughts exactly. Also rn it doesn't look like the extra $80 is worth the performance boost

[crisp ocean]

For which card? the 6800XT?

oh the 6800, gotcha lol

[quasi geyser]

Comparing the 6800 to the 3070 in price, and the 2080 ti in performance

[lone pond]

i dont think it matters how much of a fan u are of ether, bottom line is.. good luck purchasing somthing that hardly exists?

so those of you looking to get a 3070, are you just going to use yourself and no bots?

[quasi geyser]

Probably

[crisp ocean]

I think nvidia is still far ahead in the drivers game, and Im trying to snipe one by hand not bots

[quasi geyser]

I plan on getting mine a couple months from now anyway lol

[lone pond]

im gonna do it wothout bots cause i cant program

[crisp ocean]

im building my pc in december, the GPU is the only part Im buying soon because the lack of stock

[quasi geyser]

The only bot you can really use is one that manually refreshes the page

[lone pond]

i manually refreash the page. am i the bot

[quasi geyser]

@crisp ocean I'm building mine around February (I get my tax refund), I feel like the stock will be more stable by then

[lone pond]

everyone always talks about nvidia and there drivers, i had a 2s5850 then a 2s7850 then 2x290 then my 1080ti, i dident have any less software issues with amd (not counting cf issues) other than nvidia and my 1080ti

[crisp ocean]

Congrays on leveling up

@crisp ocean I'm building mine around February (I get my tax refund), I feel like the stock will be more stable by then
@quasi geyser Thats understandable

[lone pond]

i dont have a pc so i want to build mine as fast as possible

[quasi geyser]

That's exactly how I felt when I built my first rig

I hardly did any research. The mobo died within like six months

[crisp ocean]

Im just used to nvidia and thats what I like, I don't have an issue paying premium for brands I know are good and have used and had positive experiences with

I also think that spending a bit more moeny for rgb is fine because I want the system im building to look good

[lone pond]

what is a mobo?

[crisp ocean]

motherboard

[quasi geyser]

Motherboard

[lone pond]

oh

[quasi geyser]

Stay away from Asrock, especially their cheaper boards

[lone pond]

i bit the bullet and bought a x570

i mean.. nvidia is to much secrete sauce these days tbh

[crisp ocean]

I buy from corsair, asus, and msi mainly

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BpYV68 this could def be cheaper but im willing to pay extra for brands im cofortable with

[quasi geyser]

The mobo for my new build is actually kind of a dilemma
I can go for either a mid-range X570 or a high-end B550
TUF vs. ROG Strix

[fervent obsidian]

okay atleast don't pay $100 for windows

[crisp ocean]

I won't lol

[lone pond]

what alternates for windows are there?

[crisp ocean]

ill buy a code or transfer my license from my laptop to my pc

[quasi geyser]

Who pays for windows lmao

[fervent obsidian]

windows is free kitsune

[crisp ocean]

code from 3rd party*

[fervent obsidian]

can activate it for like 2 bucks with an ebay key

[lone pond]

im debating weather 6900xt or 6800xt + upgrading to new ryzen 5000 from my 3900x

yea u can get windows 10 pro keys for 10 dollars all over the place

[crisp ocean]

Whats a good website for a key?

[lone pond]

e-bay like dwella said im guessing

[quasi geyser]

The only one I know is Kinguin but I've heard it's absolute garbage
I've never used it

[crisp ocean]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-WINDOWS-10-PRO-PROFESSIONAL-32-64-BIT-1PC-KEY-INSTANT-DELIVERY/402519727218?hash=item5db80b9c72:g:WakAAOSwraNfmdZ7 no way thIS is legit lmaoo

[lone pond]

https://www.g2a.com/en-us/microsoft-windows-10-pro-microsoft-key-global-i10000083916004

gta works also

is it secure?

[crisp ocean]

I might buy an ebay key just for the lols

g2a is, I trust g2a

[lone pond]

g2a is not a scetchy site

scetchy site prices are 10 dollars or less

[quasi geyser]

"100% FAST DELIVERY"

[crisp ocean]

for $3 i might just pity them and buy

The stock market has been TANKING today

[raven fog]

just got one

but they out of stock now

[frigid loom]

how long u think gonna take till 3070 gonna get on stock ?
after tomorrow

[quasi geyser]

Goes on sale 6 am Pacific time

[frigid loom]

yea im saying after tomorrow

[quasi geyser]

Oh god who knows

[swift glade]

i will be on my phone spamming add to cart

[frigid loom]

lol

[swift glade]

while in school

lol

all i gotta do is remember my parents credit card info

spam add to cart

and order

[quasi geyser]

I don't plan to buy my 3070 for a couple months so I'm just gonna sit back and watch the chaos unfold

[raven fog]

lol

[frigid loom]

oof im getting really confused with my credit card
cause its mastercard
but in israel
so idk if newegg gonna support that 😦

[swift glade]

newegg?

[quasi geyser]

It should

[swift glade]

im ordering off of best buy

well

try to

[raven fog]

i bet u the 3070 ain't ever gonna be "actually" in stock until mid 2021

for the msrp

[frigid loom]

nah

thats too much

[swift glade]

can i get the newegg link @frigid loom

[fervent obsidian]

early 2021 things should be fine

[lone pond]

imagine you get one and it doesnt ship till mid 2021

[quasi geyser]

Don't worry, you'll always have scalpers selling it for the low low price of your left kidney

[dreamy dragon]

TurboSoggy#7610 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

how about my right kidney?

[quasi geyser]

That works too

[raven fog]

bruh

[fervent obsidian]

you'll get the gpu you want in the end folks

[quasi geyser]

^

[raven fog]

the end?

when is that

next year

[lone pond]

yes

[raven fog]

when the 4k comes out

lmao

[swift glade]

you'll get the gpu you want in the end folks
@fervent obsidian what does that mean

[raven fog]

nvidia just gonna rush it

[swift glade]

also when you add to cart does that SECURE your order

[frigid loom]

the msrp of 3070 is 500$ right?

[fervent obsidian]

what do you think it means

[frigid loom]

or im wrong

[raven fog]

no

[lone pond]

it doesnt

[raven fog]

it doesnt

yes

[lone pond]

you need to buy it

[swift glade]

oh so you have to rush through checkout

[frigid loom]

how much then?

[swift glade]

oh ok

[raven fog]

u have to press checkout

[fervent obsidian]

3070 is 499 msrp

[raven fog]

to actually have it

[frigid loom]

bruh

[lone pond]

yeah. kinda problematic

[frigid loom]

1$ difference lol

[swift glade]

also if i dont get the 3070 ill try for the 6800

but didnt amd have problems with their gpus?

[lone pond]

its coming down to preference really. We dont know if there is any problems till reviews

[swift glade]

aight

[quasi geyser]

Which, conveniently, are sparse for the 3070 and nonexistent for the 6800 (obviously)

[lone pond]

from what i watched, the 3070 doesnt do well with overclocking but it performs well on 1440p. Im not going to overclock it bc im not that hardcore, i just hope i could get a working one.

[fathom bear]

3070 is a good 1440p or ultra wide card it seems

[swift glade]

should i spam add to cart or just click add to cart once?

[fathom bear]

Use the app

[lone pond]

im gonna do it once

[swift glade]

ik im using the app

[lone pond]

as to not glitch it

[fathom bear]

Add to cart usually isn’t the problem

It’s the checkout

[swift glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azl-XhuT0u4

as to not glitch it
@lone pond facts

[fathom bear]

Idk if I would follow that

[swift glade]

yeah

ik

im

not

im just hoping that i can get one

[fathom bear]

you can hope, but I wouldn't expect to get one until early next year

[swift glade]

geeze

[fathom bear]

For the 3080, even though they sold out in "minutes" the servers were so inundated you couldn't even do anything

[swift glade]

if i dont get one

ill just figure out another card

[fathom bear]

Do you absolutely need one right now?

[swift glade]

i was only hoping this one because of the price point and its my REAL first build

yeah

by christmas time

[lone pond]

i wanted to get one bc its my first build

[swift glade]

i have the worst pc rn

[fathom bear]

Man first build with a 3070 xD

[lone pond]

and if im going to spend 500 then id try my chances at a 3070

[fathom bear]

I hope you appreciate how crazy the tech is

[spice prawn]

@swift glade "by xmas" <- go and enjoy life for a couple of weeks and then come back and look at things :)

[swift glade]

huh?

[kind wigeon]

don't put together a list now

[spice prawn]

availability is just going to be silly now

[kind wigeon]

prices will change, parts will go and come from stock

[swift glade]

bruh

[kind wigeon]

do the list a few weeks b4 the build

not now

[swift glade]

im just looking to get one tomorrow

thats all im worried about rn

[fathom bear]

You can try

But again, I wouldn't count on it

[kind wigeon]

by christmas time
@swift glade ??

[swift glade]

IK THAT

[lone pond]

the only thing we can do

[kind wigeon]

then what r u talking about 'tmrw' xD

[fathom bear]

Another thing you can try is get on ebay and take a look at used listings

[kind wigeon]

do it all together.

[swift glade]

THE 3070 RELEASE

[kind wigeon]

?? HAHAHHAA

that's funny

[quasi geyser]

He just wants to secure the bag

[fathom bear]

When people get 3070s, they will sell their old gpus

[kind wigeon]

lmaooooo

ur not getting a 3070 tmrw

[swift glade]

ok

[kind wigeon]

that's hilarious bruh

[fathom bear]

Remember, pics or not real

😄

[kind wigeon]

no

[quasi geyser]

I believe in you 👍

[kind wigeon]

never support scalpers

[fathom bear]

I didn't say send us your ebay tracking

[swift glade]

also what do you think is gonna be the most clicked on

like the asus

or fe

[kind wigeon]

??

[swift glade]

or any others

[quasi geyser]

fe probably

[kind wigeon]

all of them

[fathom bear]

FE

[quasi geyser]

but they'll all go

[swift glade]

BRO SHUT UP ANTAGO

[fathom bear]

It's the only card with reviews

[quasi geyser]

fe will just go first

[swift glade]

aight

[kind wigeon]

@swift glade calm. down.

[swift glade]

no

[kind wigeon]

xD I know what i'm talking about, in case you don't know

[swift glade]

i think everyone knows what your saying

its not secret information

[royal copper]

Just use Apple Pay

[kind wigeon]

i'm telling you- every one of them is going to be clicked the same amount. it doesn't matter- use apple pay if you want it first

[swift glade]

i already have my credit card and adress for default

[kind wigeon]

lol

that's not enough

[fathom bear]

Amazon oneclick

[kind wigeon]

ur not getting one xDDDD

[fervent obsidian]

i'm not even going to try and look at 3070s until like two weeks- a month later lmao

[royal copper]

3070 is going to be a bit better stock wise I should think

[quasi geyser]

I agree

[kind wigeon]

@fathom bear they aren't on amazon, are they

[fathom bear]

They will be

[kind wigeon]

send a link

i'll pick up a couple

[fathom bear]

I said they will be

I didn't say they are

[quasi geyser]

???? how is he supposed to send a link if they will be

[kind wigeon]

well not on launch they won't be

[fathom bear]

????

[kind wigeon]

tmrw- there will not be a 3070, on the launch day

on amazon

like-

[fathom bear]

There probably will be, but they likely won't release it at the same time as everyone else

Amazon is smart

[kind wigeon]

bruh

i hope u realize amazon doesn't actually sell other products right?

[quasi geyser]

source: guys trust me

[fathom bear]

https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/rtx3080/full_history.php

[lone pond]

"this store does not sell things"

[quasi geyser]

Right, Amazon exclusively sells Amazon Basics products

[fathom bear]

Actually it doesn't look like they sold any

Except for "preorders"

That were probably reversed

[quasi geyser]

On launch day?

Looks like they did, unless I'm reading the list wrong

https://www.nowinstock.net/full_historydetails/1482/53082/

[kind wigeon]

??

that's a resell

scalped

[quasi geyser]

on... launch day?
On Amazon?

[kind wigeon]

do you understand how amazon works?

anybody. can sell anything. on amazon.

[quasi geyser]

lol imagine getting heated in a pc parts discord server

[kind wigeon]

someone bought the card on the launch date. and resold it on amazon.

[quasi geyser]

Like I'll just call you out dude, cut the holier-than-thou attitude

[kind wigeon]

honestly and I thought general chat was dumb

[fathom bear]

Ladies you're all getting a graphics card at some point

It's ok

[spice prawn]

both of you should consider taking a deep breath and calming down

and there is NO excuse for talking like that.

[kind wigeon]

says u naed xD

[spice prawn]

behave like decent human beings and others will behave too

[kind wigeon]

says u naed

[spice prawn]

I dont ever call people names

[lone pond]

Antago but Angery

[spice prawn]

i help if people ask.

[lone pond]

So what should i have as a backup for when i cant get a 3070?

[fathom bear]

Wait or buy something else?

[quasi geyser]

Honestly, I would just wait

[fathom bear]

Those are your options

AMD is just around the corner, and the used market will get better too.

[swift glade]

So what should i have as a backup for when i cant get a 3070?
@lone pond facts

[zinc galleon]

Should I wait for the 6800 or just get the 3070?? I was planing on getting it anyway but I don’t know weather to change my mind and wait

[fathom bear]

Do you already have a monitor?

[zinc galleon]

Yea

[quasi geyser]

I would wait for the benchmarks personally

[fathom bear]

Resolution? Gsync? Freesync?

[zinc galleon]

1440 p

Free sync

No gsync sadly

[fathom bear]

8gb is plenty of VRAM for 1440p

[viral fossil]

hey guys whats the best graphics car dto pair with i7 7700k?

[zinc galleon]

Ok

[fathom bear]

But it's really up to you

[zinc galleon]

K do you really think AMDs 6800 is much better than the 3070

??

[fathom bear]

@viral fossil Current or upcoming?

[zinc galleon]

I was wondering

[fathom bear]

I don't know. That's speculation. I think they've got an advantage using their 5000 series cpus

[zinc galleon]

Yea

[viral fossil]

current

please

[fathom bear]

And your monitor?

[viral fossil]

1080p 144hz

[fathom bear]

5700XT or RTX 2070

He said current

[viral fossil]

well 1000 would be my budget

for a graphics card

[zinc galleon]

I’m planning to get that too but idk I’ma try and get a 3070 tmrw and if I don’t get it I’ll get the Radeon

[viral fossil]

?

[zinc galleon]

?

[viral fossil]

meh

[fathom bear]

3070 launches tomorrow. You probably won't get one, but that would be a good pairing

[zinc galleon]

Yea

[viral fossil]

tell that to rtx 2080ti and 3080

[zinc galleon]

Thx for the help

[fathom bear]

https://youtu.be/knPHhzEdpeo?t=611

For 7700k benchmarks

[spice prawn]

no, it doesnt.

[fathom bear]

This is the gpu channel, suggest you go over to the build channel

[viral fossil]

@narrow ledge just try to build one urself its cheaper just make sure u have supervision'

[spice prawn]

but have patience, and someone will get to you sooner or later

[woeful pawn]

build channel I'm think

[viral fossil]

is 1080ti still any good now days?

[fathom bear]

1080ti is great

[muted crystal]

I could get a pc... if I had money

[fathom bear]

If you get it for the right price

[viral fossil]

what would be the "right price"

[spice prawn]

@narrow ledge then ask again in 1½ month

[viral fossil]

and would it game well at 1440p 70fps?

[fathom bear]

Less than $400 maybe

[viral fossil]

oh

hm'

i been looking on amazon 🤣

[fathom bear]

It's similar to 2070 super with more vram

[viral fossil]

hm

i do want to buy it new

not used or refurb

[fathom bear]

Then don't buy 1080ti

[viral fossil]

...

ok

welp

[woeful pawn]

for new either 1660ti or stuck with 2000 series, or get lucky on a 3070

[viral fossil]

1000?

thats my budget

and 1660 is well below

ti

[fathom bear]

2080 super or 30 series

[kind wigeon]

@fathom bear did u build your PC?

[viral fossil]

ik

[fathom bear]

@kind wigeon yes

[viral fossil]

how close in terms of performance are the 2080 super and ti?

[kind wigeon]

@kind wigeon yes
@fathom bear no judgement, just curious, but why did you pair a 1060 with a 9700k? and a 3 gb one, for that matter

is it a placeholder?

[viral fossil]

dont ask what im pairing with my 7700k please

[high patio]

What did you pair

[viral fossil]

im very embarrassed about it

[high patio]

@viral fossil

[viral fossil]

gtx 1050

;-;

[kind wigeon]

?

so

[high patio]

Not bad, still better then integrated

[kind wigeon]

that's an ok pair

[viral fossil]

...

[high patio]

Yeahh

[kind wigeon]

for a cpu that old, it's fine

[viral fossil]

not for my uses

[kind wigeon]

??

@fathom bear question above

[viral fossil]

i also recently threw in a 1000watt psu and 32gb of ram

ik overkill

but whatevs

[high patio]

Damnnn niceee

[fathom bear]

@kind wigeon I originally had a 7600k

I prefer to upgrade parts one at a time

[high patio]

I7-7700 with a rtx 2070, gotta upgrade my CPU to an 11th gen I9 when it comes out

[viral fossil]

im upgrading my pc piece by piece because i want to actually be a content creator

[high patio]

Ohh nice!

[woeful pawn]

went from a 3570k to a 9900k 3 months ago 😛

[kind wigeon]

@high patio why not get 4th gen ryzen?

[viral fossil]

but i dont want to make money off of it i just want to make people smile

[kind wigeon]

u have to swap mobo anyways

[viral fossil]

it gives me joy when people smile

[high patio]

I don't know, I'll have to wait and see the performance to price difference

[kind wigeon]

mk

[high patio]

Cause I don't really need good multi threading performance all that much and if the 11900k has a better IPC or better single thread performance, then that's the one I'll get but I can't wait to see what AMD is gonna have to offer

[kind wigeon]

bruh -_-

as of right now

4th gen ryzen is the best at gaming

gaming is ALL ABOUT single threaded performance

[quasi geyser]

^

Most games only use a few threads

[kind wigeon]

honestly

[high patio]

They say, but is it backed up? Was there actual benchmarks from reviewers and did we see anything about 11th gen intel gaming performance? Nope

[kind wigeon]

there's no benefit to buying an intel cpu right now

11th gen intel isn't coming out for another 16 months

[high patio]

Yeah no that's why I'm not getting the 10900K

[kind wigeon]

11th gen intel isn't coming out for another 16 months
@kind wigeon

[wicked hound]

"I don't really need good multi threading performance" then why are you getting an i9?

[high patio]

Yeah that's what I mean, I'm not upgrading this year

[fathom bear]

I bought 9700k for single thread

[high patio]

Future proof

[kind wigeon]

@wicked hound bc 'it's the best at gaming' even tho there aren't benchmarks

[fathom bear]

And it was cheap

[kind wigeon]

xD

bc u just know how a future cpu is gonna do

[fathom bear]

Supposedly 5600x is going to have a rocking single core though

[kind wigeon]

it is

[quasi geyser]

According to passmark it is

[kind wigeon]

wait till it releases -_-

[high patio]

@kind wigeon What CPU do you have?

[kind wigeon]

and linus to review

@high patio 10980xe

[fathom bear]

I can’t watch Linus lol

[kind wigeon]

10980xe is my favorite cpu

[quasi geyser]

I watch Linus when I wanna laugh at cheap wish.com parts

[kind wigeon]

i 10980xe

honestly

[high patio]

Okk but why do you guys hate intel that much, everyone knows that the 10th gen was only a place filler/holder

[kind wigeon]

??

it wasn't

that was the whole flagship thing

and nobody hates 10th gen intel

everybody hates their digusting business practices and lack of respect for customers

[high patio]

Okk you got a good point for their business practices tho

[kind wigeon]

don't get me wrong, intel makes good cpus

[atomic tangle]

Does anyone know exactly what time the 3070 can be purchased

[kind wigeon]

but their crappy cheapouts, and almost monopoloptic behavior is gross

[quasi geyser]

Beginning at 6 am Pacific time

@atomic tangle

[kind wigeon]

9 AM EST

[quasi geyser]

Intel acts like a monopoly when they’re far from it

[fathom bear]

@kind wigeon AMD would do the same thing

[kind wigeon]

@kind wigeon AMD would do the same thing
@fathom bear how so

amd decided to keep the same socket for 5 years

[fathom bear]

A single company owns the market

They can do whatever they want

[kind wigeon]

amd decided to INCLUDE a GOOD cooler, helping budget customers

they don't 'own the market'

very far from it

[fathom bear]

AMD did anything they could to offset performance of intel

[kind wigeon]

that's called competition

[atomic tangle]

Kk im also undecided on if i should wait to get a 6800 or a 3080 just hate waiting hah

[kind wigeon]

and competition is good, it drives down prices and increases performance

[fathom bear]

They won’t keep the same socket for another 5 years. They own the market.

They don’t have to.

[kind wigeon]

do you know what 'own the market' means?

[quasi geyser]

@atomic tangle Waiting is hard, but it’s best. Third party benchmarks are key

[atomic tangle]

I know sold my 2080 and now im like ugghhh

[kind wigeon]

it means that the majority of purchases is coming from a single company. That isn't the case. the FTC classifies all laptop AND desktop CPUs as one category. INtel still very much so dominates the prebuilt desktop and laptop industry.

amd is far from monopolistic

[quasi geyser]

The 3080 looks good by AMD’s specs, because of course you won’t show off garbage specs at your launch event

6800*

[fathom bear]

Tell me what prebuilt or laptop consumer cares about the socket

Or the cooler

It’s a different market.

[kind wigeon]

@fathom bear most prebuilts use the stock cooler. Consumers care about the socket

by definition, amd isn't even close to 'owning the market'

just because it's more popular with enthusiasts doesn't mean it's a monopoly

[fathom bear]

Let me rephrase then. The large majority of new cpus used in new builds are AMD cpus, and they have a new launch on the horizon.

[kind wigeon]

so?

that's good

[fathom bear]

If you want a new cpu, you are buying AMD.

[kind wigeon]

do you want them to... stop making and improving cpus?

[fathom bear]

You have one option

[kind wigeon]

that's false

most laptops use intel

most prebuilt non gaming and a large portion of gaming ones use intel chips

[fathom bear]

I’m done rambling. All I’m saying is that I don’t care who’s making the cpus. Monopolies don’t benefit the consumer.

[kind wigeon]

no. but they aren't a monopoly

they are a competing business

and competition is the best thing for the consumer

[spice prawn]

@fathom bear the segment you are looking at currently is only consumer

both amd and intel are so much more than that

[fathom bear]

They’re losing server market share too.

[spice prawn]

yes yes

intel wont buckle for a number of years, even IF they dont have anything on the horizon.

[kind wigeon]

Just because a company is starting to edge out competetion, doesn't make them a monopoly

[quasi geyser]

Intel lost the supercomputer market too. The United States’ next supercomputer is slated to use AMD iirc

[kind wigeon]

intel still dominates the laptop industry. by a lot. gl finding a laptop under 500$ without an intel cpu

[quasi geyser]

I can see why, change is the enemy of prebuilt/laptop manufacturers

[kind wigeon]

not just that

intel is actually way cheaper than amd on the laptop scale

[quasi geyser]

Oh I didn’t know that

[kind wigeon]

they offer skues of their CPUs that are much cheaper

and is stil incredibly new to the laptop game

[fathom bear]

Their laptop cpus are pretty bad tbh

[kind wigeon]

but cheaper

[spice prawn]

@quasi geyser intel didnt loose the market, they didnt hold their side of the bargain on the Aurora.

(i think that was the name of it at least)

(super computer names are silly)

[quasi geyser]

Still, a big hit

[spice prawn]

meh

[kind wigeon]

not really

it was probably like what

40 million?

50 million?

[spice prawn]

its a big hit in the eyes of people that dont have any influence over it really

[kind wigeon]

not a lot compared to the sales they lose to ryzen

[quasi geyser]

But now you give them the experience of AMD
And if the Department of Energy prefers AMD, you have a problem

Not the biggest chunk outta their revenue

But not good either

[kind wigeon]

it's really small...

it's not a big problem there

again

[fathom bear]

Personally I’m waiting for someone to break into the professional gpu market

Nvidia has been overpricing Quadros for years

[spice prawn]

not really

market regulates itself on that front too

would you like to know why we have something like a 1500usd card being marketed to gamers?

because people have proven time and time again that they are willing to pay that amount

its the same exact thing in the professional market

[fathom bear]

That’s true too.

[quasi geyser]

AIB quadros when? Lol

[spice prawn]

PNY does a number of them

[vale tide]

Im wondering, Is it worth upgrading from my rtx 2060 to a 3070?

[spice prawn]

very different performance segments

[lone pond]

Do yall know if there’s gonna be any 3080s tomorrow?

Or is it only the 3070?

[fathom bear]

We don’t know

Thursday has been a common drop for 3080 though

[lone pond]

3080 dropped at bestbuy today as well

But of course it’s all gone

Cause i was planning to go to microcenter tomorrow

To get 3080s

Seems like im not going anymore

[proper jungle]

@fathom bear yes it’s from micro center

Who’s gettin the new Radeon 6000 series

[quasi geyser]

I’ll consider the 6800

I want to see third party benchmarks first though

[ripe elk]

depends on ray tracing performance/price

[turbid crag]

Is the 1060 6gb better than the rx 580 8gb

Which card is better between the gtx 1650 4gb, 1060 6gb, or the rx 580 8gb

[quasi geyser]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-580/3639vs3923

Based on benchmarks, the 1060 6gb and rx 580 are pretty much tied performance wise.

The 580 has a much lower MSRP, too.

So it comes down to personal preference and price

The 1650 lags behind both by a considerable amount, but it’s also a little cheaper

[stoic folio]

Would it be stupid to buy a rtx 3070

[fathom bear]

So much for msrp

Newegg posted their cards

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=3070&N=100007709&isdeptsrh=1

[spice prawn]

this is imo VERY VERY bad form from nvidia

and yes, i know, the links are not updated with stock yet

but cards before reviews?

not cool

[fathom bear]

Reviews will probably drop an hour before launch tomorrow

By that time people will have made their minds up anyway

[spice prawn]

yes, quite likely (re: review timeline)

and imo, that is not in the best interest of the consumers

[quasi geyser]

Any chance those price hikes are just temporary in an attempt to throw off scalpers?

[fathom bear]

It looks like it's just b and h

Newegg is cheaper for those same cards

Man I know nothing about these brands smh

Strix is almost as much as 3080

[clear frigate]

Dang

[quasi geyser]

I’m sure that’ll drop eventually

Bc at that point just get a 3080

[fathom bear]

Maybe. But you can't get a strix 3080 for $700 either.

[spice prawn]

except, where is the availability?

and that question is going to be heard/seen a LOT from now on

[clear frigate]

imagine them actually being transparent about availability i could only dream

[fathom bear]

"Last one!"

[quasi geyser]

Supply vs demand, of course
The fact that they’re priced that high makes me think they don’t have too many of them

I mean who expected them to anyway lmao

[fathom bear]

There's no one click for best buy is there?

[clear frigate]

which ones neweggs prices seem pretty normal with the exception of a few

[agile parrot]

B & h was like that with the 3080s as well

[fathom bear]

Yeah I'm not sure why they listed cards more than once. Different boost clocks maybe?

[agile parrot]

Idk why they have the prices higher

But they were all backorder for 3080 at launch, so maybe it's the same

[fathom bear]

lol @ this

[inner falcon]

o_o

they ment to put 3080 right lol

[quasi geyser]

Can these scalpers not wait for it to drop lmao

[fathom bear]

No those are 3070s

[quasi geyser]

Who’s gonna buy a preorder?

[inner falcon]

ik

[quasi geyser]

No guarantee it’s actually gonna be filled

[inner falcon]

someone bid 10k please

teach them a lesson

[agile parrot]

I hate bots

[fathom bear]

I don't think bots will be as much of an issue, but who knows.