graphics-cards

[lone pond]

IDK

[languid knot]

The Best Buy I go to wasn’t allowed any cards, yet some in other places got a few

[lone pond]

I think Nvidia did it on purpose

[limpid latch]

bestbuy dropships them from warehouse

so once they get them to theirs they send from there maybe even

its never at the actual store

[languid knot]

Not the 3080s, but other cards are in store like the 5700xt and 2070 supers

[lone pond]

...........

I hope you're right Flcn

so I can have a chance to get 3070

[languid knot]

Well I would hope Best Buy changes cause they have had some of the worst issues with online sales

[lone pond]

...........

changes like what

Either

Nvidia procude more card

than they did on 3080

or it's gonna be all over again

[restive grove]

the 3070 is gonna be drop kicked to the scalpers..

[stone raft]

I wonder how fast the machines make cards. Like 3k a day?

It seems like it

[restive grove]

making them sure, testing and boxing them is another story

[lone pond]

if they make 3k a day

.............

then we wouldn't have a problem to get one

tbh

[languid knot]

I doubt people will scalp the 3070 as bad as the 3080

[thick pasture]

What AMD CPU should I pair with a RTX 3090?

[dense flicker]

cpu you mean?

[thick pasture]

Yeah got mixed up for a sec sorry.

[proper dragon]

Would a 5 2600 be good with a 2060

[restive grove]

@thick pasture I'd say a 3800XT, 3900X,etc

@languid knot Actually I no longer believe the scalpers are in it for just the resell value, they are targeting Nvidia 3000 series to shake up the market.

@languid knot in which case the retail value has nothing to do with removing Nvidia out of buyers reach, there is more to it now....

[thick pasture]

Why would they shakeup the market?

[lone pond]

3060 ti confirmed hahah

should i just get a 2060 since a 1660 is literally the same price rn

[sharp sapphire]

uhm'

sure?

[lone pond]

how about wait

for new GPU

new gpu comes out

old gpu might drop price

[restive grove]

to@thick pasture It clearly benefits AMD's Navi.

[lone pond]

be patient like me

too many issues with the 30 series rn

[sharp sapphire]

My 3080 runs fine

[lone pond]

and i need the encoder from the nvidia gpu's so amd isn't it rn

[sharp sapphire]

except it has coil whine

[restive grove]

nvidia capacitors are overheating when over clocked

[rapid herald]

anyone get a 3080 from nvidia yesterday

[lone pond]

lol

if you're bot

no

you won't get one

[rapid herald]

dang

i know some people did get one

[lone pond]

3080 is wack rn, had a friend buy one and it performs worse than his 2080ti

[rapid herald]

Thats impossible

what cpu does he have

could have a MAJOR bottleneck

[lone pond]

ryzen 9 9something something

[sharp sapphire]

but I mean it still wouldn't be worse

[rapid herald]

oh wow....i find that really hard to believe

[lone pond]

he gets like 130-170 fps on warzone with low settings and stuff

he has everything set to performance

and it just isn't performing like it should

[rapid herald]

FE?

[lone pond]

ye

[restive grove]

its a driver issue

[lone pond]

you sure?

[rapid herald]

yea

[sharp sapphire]

mine already runs way better than any other card I had

[lone pond]

i mean ill tell him but idk if he's updated the drivers or not

[rapid herald]

he hasnt. I gaurantee it

[lone pond]

well

it's the 1st 2nd launch

don't expect much

well i told him but idk

he's spend multiple days trying to fix it

............

well

Bad luck

I guess

maybe, even his goxlr that he bought was faulty so maybe his luck just sucks

..........

say ty to ur friend

to give me more reason to wait more couple months

for giving*

im gonna do the same thing if i ever get a 30 series card

i mean if the 3060 is around the 300-400 then i might get it

I hope I have strength to wait more couple month

3060 probably around 300-400

3060 ti btw

I think Nvidia is scared that AMD would compete them at lower price

probably

3060ti would not more than 500$

i have to wait anyways cause im rebuilding my pc entirely

def

[terse bloom]

30 series are fine if you don't overclock, right? With the so called performance on a 30 series, don't really need to overclock for anything right now.

[lone pond]

why would you overclock something

ye probably'

that you don't have to ?

30 series would give you >60fps

why would someone overclock

tbh

people are greedy

[terse bloom]

Well, the whole issue and problem with the 30 series overheating, crashing to desktop, that's mostly from overclocking, I think.

[lone pond]

Yeay

overheating probably from the damn overclocking

[terse bloom]

People trying to get "more" or "the most" of what they can get.

[lone pond]

ye

the driver is the real issue btw

but I heard they fixed it

[restive grove]

https://youtu.be/nAWQQySKZGQ

[lone pond]

ye hopefully thats it cause its def not any of the other issues

R7 3700x

[terse bloom]

Yeah, they sent a new driver update, reducing clock speeds to prevent the crashing issues.

[lone pond]

is the bezt bet for 5 years

[proper dragon]

Would a 5 2600 be good with a 2060

[lone pond]

monitor ?

what's ur monitor ?

[restive grove]

think of drivers as a software ui, it can be optimized for say dx11 games but not dx9.

[lone pond]

1080p ? 144hz ?

[terse bloom]

My friend managed to get a 3080 MSI OC TUF, mixed capacitors with 5 large and 1 small array. Doesn't try to overclock it himself, just plugs it in and uses it. No issue at all so far.

[lone pond]

oh shjt

[restive grove]

or it could be written for Tomb Raider but do bad running Assassin's Creed

[lone pond]

ur friend it a bot man

watch out

well

People are greedy af

so I would not surprised 30 series are overheat

[terse bloom]

Not really. One friend got lucky on Best Buy. Managed to snag one. Didn't really want it. Was only helping. Gave it to our other friend as soon as it was delivered.

[lone pond]

.............

ur friend is a bot and angel

[terse bloom]

There's about 5 of us. We still need 3 more. We all trying. Agreed if we can snag one and don't want it, give it to the other. Or if we managed to find/get an extra. One of us lives in VA. One in MI. One in NV. And 2 in PA. So we all checking our local microcenters too.

[lone pond]

man people don't appreciate what they have so they overclocking to get few fps meanwhile I can't even play low 20fps almost everygame

[restive grove]

lol I could have got a MSI off newegg before driving to Best Buy, but I already knew that card would never fit in my case

[lone pond]

Nice strategy

btw

5 more people higher chance

[terse bloom]

Yep. Gaming clan. We work together.

[restive grove]

brb looking for a ups truck

[lone pond]

...........

I just wish I had a pc play every game >60fps

[terse bloom]

We also work at different times and shifts, so if one of us is at work and can't check sites, it helps to know have a friend to cover.

[lone pond]

man

IDK if I should wait 3070

[rain sand]

any news on the AMD gpu?

[lone pond]

or couple month after 3070

amd gpu

28th octoper my friend

[rain sand]

reveal or release?

[lone pond]

IDK it says

it's coming 28th Octo

..............

nothing more

[rapid herald]

annoucment the 28th

[rain sand]

oh ok thank u

Idk what to get if 3070 or 3080 or wait for amd

[lone pond]

if you have a decent pc

then wait

[rain sand]

I wanna upgrade from my 1070 ti mini

[lone pond]

if you don't even have a pc like me

might look at 3070

AMD hmmmmm

last time took them a while to make 5700xt almost the same 2070S

sooooo

IDK

[trim citrus]

They may compete who knows

[rain sand]

Ig I have a high end or close to high end pc

[trim citrus]

Honestly I would wait for RDNA 2 to make the final decision

[lone pond]

what do you mean final decision ?

[rapid herald]

yeah but it will be november

[trim citrus]

?

[lone pond]

3060ti just confirmed btw

[rapid herald]

@lone pond final decision on what to buy.....

cmon man lol

[lone pond]

late Octo

or November

oh

[rain sand]

I mean I still cant find a 30s at retail price lmao

[lone pond]

LOL

[rain sand]

resellers are 1k+

[lone pond]

to find 30s now

is hard af

[dreamy dragon]

Mrs.I'mNotGay#3716 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

Nvidia is a jerk

they did it on purpose

[rain sand]

I mean first bash is always trash

with every single thing in this world not just gpu, whether is phones, shoes or anything first bash is the worst

[lone pond]

1st launch u meant ?

[rain sand]

yes

[lone pond]

IDK

Iphone can launch 2 milion phones around the US

U think Nvidia is small company can't even produce that much

[restive grove]

I have a Asus x570 Tuf Wifi and I am feeling stupid...

[lone pond]

I don't think so

[rain sand]

thats where all the issues come to light and that when they start fixing

[restive grove]

capacitors overheating when over clocked

[rain sand]

i dont mean in numbers, i mean by the issues in hardware

@restive grove I have the same motherboard but y would u overclock?

[restive grove]

I wouldn't but would be hardcore gamers would

@rain sand https://videocardz.com/newz/manufacturers-respond-to-geforce-rtx-3080-3090-crash-to-desktop-issues

[rain sand]

not really, if u have a good pc u don't have too.

whats that?

[restive grove]

example, my nephews kid, gave him a 1500x, a b450, 16gb dd4, and a gtx 1160 super.

[terse bloom]

It's one of, if not the main reason, for nVidia's crashes with the new 30 series.

[restive grove]

1st thing he does is youtube oc to increase his fortnite fps

dl's some stupid fps app that forces his fps and blue screens

[rain sand]

I get it with does specs, but with the one u showed, y would u overclock?

the specs on the picture are already good tbh

[terse bloom]

We just talked about this. SOME people are just greedy and want "more" or the "most" they can get.

Especially "Hardcore Competitive Gamers" who want every single slight advantage they can get by having better specs than anyone else.

[restive grove]

I am saying that not all users run their systems with default settings. until i wiped his system and reset win10 his system sounded like a hoover vacuum

[lone pond]

yeay

I hate those people

give me their GPU

[rain sand]

I rather upgrade than overclock, but is up to everyone's choice, idk much about overclocking just what i have heard

[lone pond]

and I would be more appreciated more

[terse bloom]

It's a type. Some prefer stock, some prefer modified. Same with cars, honestly.

That's why there's stock car racing, formula racing, and street racing.

[restive grove]

thats where the liquid coolers, dram coolers, and other none sense come into market

vga liquid coolers included'

[lone pond]

Liquid cooller

suck ass

..............

[trim citrus]

Everything is all good till it starts leaking

[restive grove]

all i want in gaming is clarity, to see and react to everything

[rain sand]

I don't overclock and i have won against people who have a better rig than mine as it is already and they still overclock

overclocking has nothing to do with advantages in gaming, is all in the skills

[lone pond]

all I want in gaming is I can play ............ and that's it

my laptop can't even game

[rain sand]

@lone pond I feel ya. mine is already in the garbage

[restive grove]

i remember back in the day of mmo pvping, life and death was a matter of fast or slow pc. costom built vs retail desktops

[rain sand]

I was still a console player by then😂

R6 got me into pc

[restive grove]

i still own very very very, very old consoles

this sits ontop of my genesis

so i can play even older sega carts

[rain sand]

yea I was born in 2002, but i got to play from ps1-ps4, xbox live-xb1, nintendo 64-nintendo switch.

Once I got into pc, it change my whole view of gaming systems. Only reason y I would buy a console is to play with friends. But most games are going to be crossplay by next gen

[languid knot]

I had a pc a few years ago then all my friends got the Xbox one, so I switched, and now they’re all back to pc so I’m getting one

[rain sand]

lmao, i am making all my friends get pc😂

[static zinc]

@restive grove Ive never seen that but I had the sega channel where you attach a coax cable to cartridge and get access to a bunch of games

[rain sand]

With the 3000s launch I told them that gpu will be cheap

[languid knot]

My roommate is the one I play games with the most and he got a prebuilt and loves it

[lone pond]

prebuilt

.............

suck ass

expensive

ur friend is my brother told me pre-built is much cheaper than build one by yourself

[languid knot]

Okay he got a r5 3600 with a 2070 super for $1100

And he doesn’t know how to build a pc

So no it doesn’t suck

[lone pond]

.............

I'm telling u this

I'm R-tarded

and I find building a pc is not hard

I know literraly nothing when I research PC component

I don't even know how to connect wifi to pc through LAN

[languid knot]

Okay and for what he got it would have been the same price and he saved time and effort

[lone pond]

It must be

[static zinc]

Some people just want a prebuilt and thats ok

[lone pond]

because old

r5 3600 170$ bucks

2070 super 400$

[languid knot]

Okay man

[lone pond]

570 + everything no more than 900

I guess

...............

[languid knot]

2070 super 6 months ago was $500

[lone pond]

wait

2070

s

my bad

500

then 1000$

100$ building labor

<(")

1100 + not include tax

[restive grove]

@static zinc now thats old, i still have working master system, genesis system carts, saturn and dreamcast cds

[languid knot]

No it was $1100. Total. With tax.

[lone pond]

670 GPU + CPU 330$ left to buy another stuff

okay almost the same

just 50 100 $ for builder

fair

[languid knot]

The time savings for building. And not having to get a windows code. Just because YOU know how to build a pc doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea to buy a prebuilt.

[static zinc]

@restive grove sadly the genesis was the only sega system i ever owned

[lone pond]

Yeay

fair

some pre-built is an a**hole

like my brother pre-built pc

they don't even include the name of mobo or psu

cyberpower btw

gonna be honest

if pre-built have 3070

I would buy if the price is fair like what ur friend paid

[rain sand]

ur friend is my brother told me pre-built is much cheaper than build one by yourself
@lone pond depends from whom u get it from I got a pre build and I saved $200 from actually building it

[lone pond]

well

from friend

Of course save money

but since I don't have friend

so no

[rain sand]

I didn't do it from friend lol

I can send u his Instagram if u want

[lone pond]

why ?

wait

then who sold you the pre-built ?

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?ref=upd

this pre-built cost 2k3 .............

when I do the math only 1700 maximum

legit ?

[rain sand]

I wouldn't buy from does companies bc they over price

[lone pond]

your is personal builder ?

[rain sand]

Yes is legit I send u the link via DMs

I'm just one of his customers

[lone pond]

oh okay

ty for the tip

[rain sand]

yea, I was kinda worried at first but yea his legit

np

It has really good prices, but building it your self is an experience u don't wanna miss

[lone pond]

Yeay who wanna miss to mess up your first build right

[rain sand]

I mean after watching a lot of videos is easy

is not really that hard, the manual is easy to read. And the cables are easy to located where they go.

[lone pond]

Plz you underestimate my re-tardedness sir

[rain sand]

Im more of a R-tard than u

Im not even kidding

[lone pond]

Just kiding

I'm not afraid to build one

[rain sand]

but fr is not hard

[lone pond]

because flcn

brought up the pre-built

[rain sand]

flcn?

[lone pond]

so I'm kinda curious to find one

with good price

@languid knot

this guys

guy*

[rain sand]

oh lol

[lone pond]

IDK

[rain sand]

but yea that guy i sent u, his 100% legit

[lone pond]

My first build's estimated around 1500$ include tax and Monitor 1440p 144hz

[rain sand]

if u wanna do pre build I 1000000% recommend him

[lone pond]

stronger than my my brother 2000$ pc

IDK

[bitter jungle]

youre not gonna build yourself? D:

[lone pond]

I'm a paranoid person

[bitter jungle]

its just like building legos

[lone pond]

Yams no one said that

..........

I was joking with him

[bitter jungle]

if u wanna do pre build I 1000000% recommend him

oh

good

[lone pond]

I hate u

[rain sand]

Just tell him ur pc budget, not the final cost with the monitor etc. tell wim what u are willing to spend out of the 1.5k

[lone pond]

so

[bitter jungle]

I hate u

[lone pond]

Xavi

[rain sand]

huh?

[lone pond]

how much did you pay for your last pc

[rain sand]

1,250

[lone pond]

pc component ?

gpu cpu ?

how much he charged to build one ?

I would not hesistate to pay 50 100$ for labor

[bitter jungle]

usually its $50-100 for labor for the smaller pc builders

but there are some people who charge like $200 🙄

[rain sand]

well my gpu isn't manufacture anymore so people are selling it for $700, he lower me the price of that tho

[bitter jungle]

what gpu is it

[rain sand]

my pc was about 1,150-1,200

[lone pond]

what kind of GPU is that ?

[rain sand]

1070ti mini

[lone pond]

2070 s ?

oh

1070ti

well

[bitter jungle]

1070 TI is like $200 on the used market -_-

[tired wind]

Anybody here seen the white Gigagbyte RTX 3080? It looks like the Radeon VII with 3 fans. Looks so clean IMO.

[rain sand]

it waas new

[lone pond]

@tired wind dude IDC about the look the good 3080 is the one you can touch my dude

[rain sand]

he didnt sold it to me for 700, he did it for like 200

[bitter jungle]

he coulda just gotten a 2060 for $320...

200 sounds like used price

[rain sand]

true but i ask 1070ti mini

He doesnt sell use parts

[bitter jungle]

2060 can be mini and it performs better...

whatever

ima eat lunch now

[tired wind]

@lone pond true, but I can get any at all either.

[lone pond]

send me some

[tired wind]

can't*

[lone pond]

@tired wind just kiding I don't even have enough money for my first build

[faint kindle]

Yeah, it looks alright

[restive grove]

@bitter jungle

[rain sand]

I wanted the 1070ti tho, bc it was cheaper @bitter jungle

[lone pond]

well

the importatnt thing is

[rain sand]

200 for a brand new one sounds good. plus it performers really good. ima change it to the 3070 or 3080 tho

[lone pond]

he didn't overcharge you

so it's a good thing

we're not taking which one is better

[rain sand]

I was gonna buy at digital storm 😂 😂

[lone pond]

we're talking about the way your builder charges

[rain sand]

I think he charges like 100 maybe less

u can ask him and if u like the price cool if not thats cool too, is up to u

[lone pond]

100$ to remove the nuisance

is a good price to me

so does he install all the drivers

or just connect all the cable ?

[rain sand]

I believe so. He tests it before sending it to u. When u boot it up is gonna have like 4 programs install for benchmarking and all that

Mine came with all the gpu drivers up to date. U just gotta update whenever a new comes up

[lone pond]

Well

[rain sand]

Is up to u, u can contact him if u have any other question

He can answer with more clarity than I can

[stone raft]

I like that white card

[rapid herald]

@faint kindle when does that come out

[faint kindle]

I’m not sure. Just says coming soon

[rapid herald]

oh ok

[lone pond]

LOL

@rain sand he must thought me a troll or something

I asked him does he take 30 series nvidia gpu or not

he did respondse

didn't

Anyone living in Canada have an old gpu i can use to test my pc lol

............

😅

[rain sand]

Ima tell him it was u😂 @lone pond

[restive grove]

hiddy ho

[lone pond]

Nah

He just responded

well I have to wait him to build on to see the price

[blazing geyser]

What are your guy's thoughts on integrated graphics

[rain sand]

@lone pond awesome

@blazing geyser I have never tried it, but what are ur thoughts

[lone pond]

My thought is

What the heck is that

[rain sand]

Same here lmao

[blazing geyser]

@blazing geyser I have never tried it, but what are ur thoughts
@rain sand I dont have a pc

Poor mobile gamer here

I'm trying to save up for a pc

Should I save money by not getting a gpu

[rain sand]

oh lol, well idk 💩 about integrated gpu

[clear plover]

[high nimbus]

what do you mean?

In what way? I don't believe you'd have bottleneck issues with either card.

I think it depends on how quickly you want the card, what you would be using it for, ect.

[clear plover]

You asked as if you actually had a choice, get the one that you can grab first

[high nimbus]

Both should be fine. We don't have benchmakrs in the 3070, but I would assume you'd get more performance per dollar out of the 3070.

[clear plover]

[stone raft]

That new star wars game came out...who bought it?

[restive grove]

its out?

squadrons?

hmmm, thats a problem

[limpid latch]

yea

dunno though watch reviews of game maybe looks ok not spectacular though

[lone pond]

Damn 3080

The temptation tells me to get pc now, I have to resist god damn it

[gray narwhal]

Guys so my friend has a 960 and he’s tryna upgrade I had a 580 about 6 months ago vefore upgradinf to a 1070, and how well is the 580/590 holding up for abt 150$ for the xfx fat boy 8gb

Pls ping bc I’m not online often lol

[lone pond]

@gray narwhal gaming coding work ?

@gray narwhal purpose ?

[gray narwhal]

Gaming lol

[lone pond]

.............

I think you should go

1660 super

around 200$

[gray narwhal]

Where bro lol

I can’t find a single 1660s at that price

[bitter jungle]

1660 super do be like 130

*230

[gray narwhal]

That’s what it worth but like

[lone pond]

IDK

with modern game

1660 super is decent GPU

with your 580 590

I guess you're using 1080p

2060 super is solid for 1080p

400$

but I would get RX 5700xt 400$, and 5700XT almost as fast as 2700 super btw

[gray narwhal]

Lol yea but like budget is about 150 thas the problem

And yes 1080

[tropic bloom]

hi, i'm on a tight budget (like $120 max) for a gaming gpu. can i have some help loking? thx

[bitter jungle]

used RX 570 or 580

or GTX 970

[lone pond]

save more money man

I'm saving up for my 1st build too

[arctic phoenix]

or 1650 super

for 120$ if good deal

[umbral wraith]

I can’t send pics

Rip

[spice prawn]

@umbral wraith what do you need to send a pic of?

[umbral wraith]

A gpu

I wanted to send a pic and ask if it’s worth it

[spice prawn]

send it to me as a pm

and i will post for you

[umbral wraith]

Ok

@spice prawn I can’t pm u

[spice prawn]

aye, we have a settings conflict

post a model name instead

[umbral wraith]

It’s a evga ko 2070 super

For $400

Like new

But used

[spice prawn]

depending on when you need the card, and what state it is in

that is not bad, but it is not good either

[umbral wraith]

Why is it not good?

[spice prawn]

because of the new cards that are out, and what is coming out in the next month

[tired wind]

I agree.. the RTX 3070 for 499 with a 2080ti performance is worth waiting for.

[languid knot]

Even longer to wait now

[lone pond]

IDK

IDK about RTX 3070 is same 2080ti

or almost the same

I just hope I can grab one

that's all I hope

[languid knot]

it will be just with less ram

[lone pond]

wait

that's illegal

[languid knot]

lmao no

[lone pond]

oh

I thought u said they're gonna lower the ram than it's supposed to be like they said

Oh nvm

but ram in gpu is not important right ?

[languid knot]

No. The 3070 will have similar performance to the 2080ti but the 2080ti has 10gb of ram and the 3070 will have 8gb

It is for more intensive games

[lone pond]

does ram in gpu important ?

[spice prawn]

yes, to a certain extent it is

[lone pond]

I've heard that the heaviest game takes 8gb of GPU

[spice prawn]

yes/no/ish

can you push it higher? yes

do a lot of users overestimate how much ram they actually need? yes

[limpid latch]

star citizen uses alllllot of ram in the stat it is in so more vram the better lol

[spice prawn]

can we as users predict how the games of tomorrow will evolve (in regards to ram use)? No

[limpid latch]

1440p should be fine tho 8 to 10gigs

[spice prawn]

@limpid latch again, "can you push it higher? yes"

[limpid latch]

lol always but i wouldnt expect 1440p to push too high unless its somethign with mods you add assets to the games

[spice prawn]

also, depending on where you read "ram use" it is not actually ram being "used"

[limpid latch]

yea

[spice prawn]

(ram = gpu vram in this case)

[lone pond]

star citizen

I'm not interested into that game

so I'm good

[spice prawn]

my personal take is that anything below 8 gig is not a smart thing to buy

and i would prefer 10+

[lone pond]

..............

Are you saying my 3070 is trash my dude

............

[spice prawn]

considering you dont have one yet

[lone pond]

Hey

[spice prawn]

you dont know if it is bad or good yet

for me, it would make no logical sense to buy a card with below 10gig

[lone pond]

why though

most game

[languid knot]

Because it gives extra headroom

[lone pond]

okay

..............

[limpid latch]

im just waiting to see when asus strix card will be actually for sale

[spice prawn]

for what i do, it makes sense

[lone pond]

man

[spice prawn]

simulation work loves ram :)

[lone pond]

...........

[limpid latch]

could have gotten a evga xc3 oc for 1k but nah not gonna do that

[dreamy dragon]

Piranha#4487 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

I don't know what to buy anymore

...........

[spice prawn]

whatever you want @lone pond

what i said above is what i personally want

[limpid latch]

asus tuf atleast id say

[spice prawn]

it is NOT a recommendation for what is best for you :)

[stone raft]

Any strix releases?

[lone pond]

Naed I hate u so much

<(")

[languid knot]

if you dont need 10gb, 8 is fine.

[lone pond]

how do I even know

if I need how many gb

tbh

[spice prawn]

by reading reviews @lone pond

and if that it all it takes for you to hate someone, a lot of people will envy you for your easy life :)

[lone pond]

@spice prawn take it ez budday I'm teasing you

[spice prawn]

see the smiley:)

[lone pond]

alright

Fingercrossed

[river moss]

Im getting a Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard , do I need to also get a graphics card?

[spice prawn]

depends on what cpu you are putting in that mainboard?

[river moss]

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

[languid knot]

yes you will

[spice prawn]

yes, then you need a GPU

[wicked hound]

there is also the question of why that board? Very overkill and waste of money for most people

can easily put that money elsewhere in the budget

[languid knot]

Yeah I went from wanting x570 to getting the aorus b550 pro. Still kinda overkill but much less money

[lone pond]

x570 is compatible with old CPU ( not too old ) and also it's gonna support new GPU too, I think that's why it's much more expensive

[languid knot]

b550 does as well....

[lone pond]

B550 only support currently older CPU is no no

[languid knot]

b550 is newer than x570

[lone pond]

is support current CPU

,but older cpu *

[wicked hound]

blanket statements dont always work for b550

[river moss]

which ones should I be looking at

[wicked hound]

fairly sure one or two b550 has Zen+ support

[lone pond]

I would take b550

[wicked hound]

majority dont

[languid knot]

B550 is only somewhat different to the x570 platform because it doesnt have as many pcie4 slots

[lone pond]

Pcie4 doesn't help a lot in FPS btw

[wicked hound]

If you're on such a tight budget to not get Zen2 anyways, you wouldnt be getting b550 anyways

[languid knot]

yes but b550 still has it.

[lone pond]

b450

budget

is okay

if you're not planning upgrade in 4 or 5 years

then B450

[wicked hound]

or rather, get whatever cheapest board that has all the features and quality of life things that you'll use

[lone pond]

B550 is safe bet here

but b450 is okay

[wicked hound]

if not for stock issues, some b450 boards still wouldnt be bad tbf

[spice prawn]

IO is much much more important than chipset

[lone pond]

B450 is for budget for sure

cheaper

flexible

[spice prawn]

because 99.9999999% of users wont notice they are using one chipset over another

[lone pond]

100$ mobo is decent

[raven ledge]

So I have a question about the GTX 9xx series or anything similar

What would pair well with an FX 8150

Without a massive bottleneck

Or would an RX 4xx/5xx be better

[restive grove]

I wanna cry

It's okay I've already abandoned my post

[lone pond]

Wait B&H has good service is true ?

Good luck baby

[amber crystal]

3070 delayed til the 29th. Built my whole pc around that card. I'm gonna cry

[lone pond]

LOL

why would u cry man

3070 comes out around AMD card

you have more options at that time

I'm the one who should be crying man

I don't even have PC

my laptop can't even run low setting 20fps

[dreamy dragon]

rizlfoshizl#7029 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[amber crystal]

It's my first build. For refrence, my 10 y/o Mac can barely run among us

[rain sand]

@lone pond yo so what happen?

[lone pond]

@rain sand eh ?

LOL

okay

you got me that one @amber crystal

I still can run Among Us

[rain sand]

@lone pond what happen with the pre build?

[lone pond]

He said he need to wait to get one

so I think I'd better off to build one by myself

[amber crystal]

@lone pond tried to run that Magic The Gathering game people are playing right now and my laptop overheated lmao

[lone pond]

okay you have worse computer than me

[proven coyote]

Im building an office computer for a family member, do i need a video card or will integrated graphics be enough?

[lone pond]

no gaming

then no need GPU

just ssd to make load fast

[proven coyote]

Thanks

[terse bloom]

Yeah, unless they're trying to do CAD work, pretty sure integrated graphics is enough.

[rain sand]

@lone pond if u want a 30s wait for the restock bc reseller aren't going to sell it for retail price

[lone pond]

?

@rain sand what do you mean reseller ?

Nah

If I can't get 3700

3070

I would just get 3080

because in November I would have enough $ to get 3080 if I want to

[languid knot]

3080 FTW3 on Newegg

[worthy prawn]

did asus tuf go up

[restive grove]

I've abandoned all hope, starting another pc to forget my loss.

take care guys and happy hunting

[stone raft]

3080 FTW3 on Newegg
@languid knot gone in a instant

[languid knot]

I figured

Just saw a tweet and wanted to let y’all know

[hushed wolf]

Any 2080 or 2080 supers for cheap? Assuming that price will go under 600 bucks when 3080 comes back in stock

[languid knot]

It’ll probably be a few months unless you look used

[dense cobalt]

I’m glad I didn’t hit the checkout button. Was so tempted to but I really want a 3090. I was pretty confident in snagging a 3080 but I’ll wait for strix or xtreme/master 3090s

[lone pond]

Well

[naive kelp]

wtf

newegg crashed?

[lean flicker]

Should i get asus tuf 3080

Or evga xc3 3080

[faint kindle]

Either are pretty good from what I know

[worthy prawn]

today was the best restock so far, alot of people got them ( though its still a small amount )

[faint kindle]

[round mason]

IT CAME IN STOCK

THEN ITS GONE

[faint kindle]

[worthy prawn]

sayign its the best so far is not saying much, instead of 2 people getting it, 5 people got it

[round mason]

wtf

i got the notification from newegg

but it was newegg canada...

[lean flicker]

Also imma place a 80mm fan under the gpu so it cools better

Should i or no

[faint kindle]

sure

couldn’t hurt

[lean flicker]

Ok

[rain sand]

@rain sand what do you mean reseller ?
@lone pond what I mean reseller is people who got it on release and are selling it for a higher price. higher than its original price

[spice prawn]

@rain sand name for that is scalper

[lean flicker]

pretty sure jayz2cents did it and he got like from 60c to 50c load

[faint kindle]

GN pointed a fan at it and it helped a good bit too

[lean flicker]

Its gonna be 80mm and imma put it like max rpm which is like 3000

is there any problems i should be worried about

Like can i just put it on the bottom of case under gpu and it’ll be fine

or do i put it on something so it catches air better

[rain sand]

@rain sand name for that is scalper
@spice prawn I forgot about that. thank u tho

[lean flicker]

omg im 5head

i can angle it

So it takes cool air from case fan and blows at gpu

[crystal saffron]

[lean flicker]

[stone raft]

^ that looks dirty

Lol

[lean flicker]

true

My ideas good right @faint kindle

Wait if im pointing a fan at it im getting fe

Cuz it takes air from bottom

not sure about aftermarket

[naive kelp]

man

I kinda hope asus does like an under 10 minute shoutout as to when their cardlines are released

the mighty wegg crashed and then a few mins l8r boom stock out

do hope actual people got their few this time round

[languid knot]

Ngl it’s sad how few customers have been able to get a 30 series

[stone raft]

Uber sad

[terse bloom]

I was in the middle of a fleet match on the new star wars game when I got the notification. And even when I did try to open the site up, got an error message anyway.

[frigid anvil]

[stone raft]

I was in the middle of a fleet match on the new star wars game when I got the notification. And even when I did try to open the site up, got an error message anyway.
@terse bloom how you like the game? Is it good?

[lone pond]

..............

[terse bloom]

Yeah, I like it. Its been fun. Kinda reminds me of being a little kid and going to the arcade to play the star wars game. Except its all starship battles. And you switch being imperial or rebel, instead of rebel all the time.

Multi-player has 2 modes from what I can tell. Dogfight which is a straight up team deathmatch. First team to 30 kills win. And fleet battles, which is more objective base as you try to destroy each other's battleship, with some ai ally/enemy elements too.

[stone raft]

Lmfao

[terse bloom]

My friend has been complaining about frame stuttering tho. Not sure if its cause he needs to upgrade his GPU, or cause he's streaming.

[stone raft]

Aite

I'ma buy it

[terse bloom]

Star Wars Squadron? It's also on console, and does support cross-play as well. Though my friends and I have been playing on PC. Unless you're used to it or really good with KB/M, it's recommended to use a controller, since it is a flight sim game. I am a little curious to play it with a flight sim joystick, but I don't have one.

[lone pond]

<(")

[proper dragon]

Will the 5 2600 be good with a 2060

[rugged crater]

whats a good entry level 1080p nvidia gpu?

Will the 5 2600 be good with a 2060
@proper dragon yes

[proper dragon]

Ok cool

[rapid herald]

What time does Best buy release enw cards

cuz i see the Gig. white one comes out the 9th

[lone pond]

whats the highest quality a factory overclocked rx 580 can do at a stable fps

[stone raft]

Star Wars Squadron? It's also on console, and does support cross-play as well. Though my friends and I have been playing on PC. Unless you're used to it or really good with KB/M, it's recommended to use a controller, since it is a flight sim game. I am a little curious to play it with a flight sim joystick, but I don't have one.
@terse bloom was thinking about buying a joystick

[agile vine]

Does anyone know why gpus are suddenly increasing in price

[spice prawn]

because of demand

[agile vine]

Why they do this to me

I was gona get a 2070s when 3000 series came out 😭

I cry

[fervent obsidian]

look for used

[lone pond]

2070s price has changed anything

What are you talking about dude

Also why would you get 2070s if 3070 is faster same price

Be patient

[spice prawn]

@lone pond the US is not the only market :)

the 2070 super has dropped by about 20% here in denmark over the last month

[lone pond]

@agile vine 3070 will come out 28th this month, I think you should wait since 2070s price just increasingly

3070 is worth waiting for

Also high chance to get than 3080 since low price low chance scalpers would want to mess it up

Just my 2 cents about it

[spice prawn]

also, keep in mind, amd cards will be launching just before then

which could change things up too

[limpid latch]

Apparently gigabyte aorus listed on newegg n sold out hah

[ancient crystal]

specific cards

er

i was scrolled up

[faint kindle]

^

lots of upset people.

lmao

that's awful man. this launch has been the biggest cluster i've ever witnessed

[lean flicker]

welp corona kinda cucked it

[round mason]

Meh kind of

Nvidia themselves manufacture in the US

[faint kindle]

It’s unfortunate because it seems like they never really give a heads up when restocking will occur

Just gotta be in the right place at the right time

[lone pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfKc8U4iwg

[lean flicker]

🍞

[round mason]

[terse bloom]

I feel like Newegg loves teasing me.

Cause I have the 3080s bookmarked. And so I like to randomly check from time to time..

Just makes me want to click "Add to Cart", but cart total is still 0.00 and it's still out of stock.. And I never got a notification from NowInStock either..

[lone pond]

I’m waiting for 3070 GOD DANG IT THE SELF BOT IS IN EVERY CHANNEL

[lime kelp]

Got a question is it possible to SLI a GeForce GTX 970 from MSI and another GeForce GTX 970 from ASUS?

There clocking isnt exactly the same but their RAM is

[violet dock]

yes. it will just clock sync to the slowest card

[near igloo]

The aib dosent matter it just has to be the same card

[stone raft]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75460/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt-will-challenge-rtx-3080-16gb-for-549-699/index.html

[languid knot]

Still not a huge fan of the look but that’s not bad

[lone pond]

............

I mean

we buy perfomance

not to look at it right

6900xt

550$

[lime kelp]

Whats really the best card for upcomming games like Halo Infinite and Cyberpunk 2077?

[lone pond]

will make Nvidia go crazy

3090

...............

IDK if u have the money

then you're good

[languid knot]

I mean I buy partially for looks once it gets to a higher threshold of price. If it was $300 or so I wouldn’t care so much. But then again I haven’t see any AIB cards

[stone raft]

I need to see when the release is. Might be a bit to later for me

[lone pond]

late octo

28th 30th octo

for AMD and 3070

[stone raft]

I thought the announcement was the 28th

[lone pond]

what is the highest quality a 3070 do?

28th for amd

30th for Jensen leather jacket

3070

can do 4k

and best on 1440p

3080

best at 4k

8k

IDK

why would you even go 8k

overall 3080 is the best

3070 is economically best

3090 this guy hmmm

freaking monster

[round crown]

Can 3070 do 1440p 144hz and like 1000 fps on mc with low settings

[lone pond]

2070s can do 1440p pretty easily

at >50 fps

ultra setting

and

3070

the same perfomance 2080ti

soooo

it's a piece of cake

1000fps

............

[stone raft]

If amd handles the bots and does a good job of launch, I might get it

[lone pond]

IDK

I've learnt from a person in here

that amd

doesn't have ray tracing

sooooooo

up to u

also remember

Nvidia is not dump like Intel

if the 3070 launch is okay

then it's hard for amd to take back the throne

[round crown]

Yeah ikr

But intel is dead

[lone pond]

LOL

I still remember

Intel said

"We will increase the price of our CPU because the lack of material "

LOL

[stone raft]

Lol

Intel can suck a mean sausage

[spice prawn]

@lone pond eh? was that person talking about the current cards or the cards being launched later this month?

[brisk flame]

also

can you

stop

talking

like this

?

its

really annoying

[lone pond]

why

not

[brisk flame]

and hard to read

ok fivehead

[lone pond]

hahaha

[spice prawn]

its considered spam.

but, please answer the question above

[lone pond]

@stone raft IDK if Intel ever recovers from this let's see

[spice prawn]

@lone pond i will ask again. Which cards do not have raytracing on the amd side?

[lone pond]

he told me yester new AMD doesn't have raytracing @languid knot

[spice prawn]

he is politely put, very wrong.

[lone pond]

alright

[spice prawn]

consider the following

the xbox series X and the ps5 both have raytracing

those both use the upcoming GPU chip family that AMD will be launching later this month on the desktop

[languid knot]

I did not say that.

I said the previous gen didn’t.

[spice prawn]

@languid knot good, that means you are not completely silly :)

it would be appreciated if you didnt spread FUD like that @lone pond

[lone pond]

............

alright

[spice prawn]

reason: there are people that will believe it

and there is already enough misinformation about things like this

[stone raft]

https://media.tenor.com/images/7b26fa4e4ed0f152c81fe8c2f3345abe/tenor.gif

Lmao

[lone pond]

Lmao

[spice prawn]

more of it does not do anything but hurt the general competition between companies.

[round crown]

Trump is fake news

He got covid

[lone pond]

Well

[spice prawn]

@stone raft please keep jokes like that in #general-chat where they belong

[lone pond]

I want to talk about politic

but let's keep that

out of here

[round crown]

Yea sry bout that naed

[stone raft]

Lol sorry sorry

[lone pond]

<(")

Rx 6900 xt 16gb = 549$-699$ vs rtx 3080 16gb = 699$

<(")

[stone raft]

So I am wondering

[spice prawn]

except the 3080 is NOT 16gigs

[stone raft]

Ya it is 10

Maybe 20 later

[lone pond]

3080 10gb

hmmmm interesting

3080 20gb double the ram maybe 800-1000$

I guess

[stone raft]

@spice prawn so it is actually coming out the 28th or is it just being announced? Because we don't know the full specs or price

[spice prawn]

we dont know @stone raft

they have an event there for RDNA2

[stone raft]

If that 20gb 3080 is around that price, I may as well get the 3090

[spice prawn]

we dont know if they will be doing a hard launch

hard launch = cards available "right away"

we will know more as we get closer to that date

because its currently still too far away for retailers to have started receiving stock IF its a hard launch

[lone pond]

LOL if 3070 1st launch failed one more time

that would be interesting

[spice prawn]

there was no "fail" about the 3070 launch

that was 100% a marketing decision

the "oh we need to build up stock" excuse? that is imo pure BS

[lone pond]

well

[spice prawn]

the only way they are NOT running out of stock is IF the amd cards are hard launched and they are competitive

[dreamy dragon]

emokun#7411 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

Jensen

calculated

<(")

[stone raft]

Bots will get that crap too anyway

[spice prawn]

He calculated that people have bugs for brains and the attention span of goldfish on a good day

because from a tech POV, i find their delay to be fairly insulting

because its just silly

[lone pond]

@stone raft well not this 3070

maybe

but low chance

people who want to buy 3070 mostly doesn't have money to strech more than that

[spice prawn]

IF people get themselves as hyped as they did for the 3080/3090 ofc the bots will be rolled out again

[lone pond]

if they could why would they even want 3070 to begin with

[spice prawn]

because there is profit to be made

its as simple as that

[lone pond]

like sell 500$ for 1000$ ?

[spice prawn]

just sell for 100-200 above

[lone pond]

then why won't they get 3080 ?

[spice prawn]

because availability

[lone pond]

if person can strech more than 200$

why would they choose 3070 ?

doesn't make sense

[spice prawn]

hype as a "concept" does not make sense

[lone pond]

IDK if bot wanna mess up

the 3070

go ahead

[spice prawn]

so ofc the "reason" does not make sense either

[lone pond]

3070 customers probably won't pay 700 800$ for 3070

they would just get 3080

[spice prawn]

want to bet on that?

lets say the market looks like this:

there is no 3080 available

[lone pond]

so 3070

.............

if 3070 avaviable then there's no scalper

[spice prawn]

if there is no 3080, do you honestly think that people will NOT be willing to pay silly amounts extra for the 3070?

[lone pond]

people who buys 3070 because it's affordable don't want to strech more than 500$

scalper get it sell 700$

no 3070

no 3080

normal people

[stone raft]

at that point, you should just try to get the AMD instead of the 3070

[lone pond]

would not pay 3070 700$

they would just wait 3080

if they can pay 700$ 3070

why would they even want to get 3070 in the first place

@stone raft I hope AMD would mess Nvidia up this time

so they stop being a jerk

[spice prawn]

why did people pay 1000 for the 3080?

[lone pond]

and Jensen jacket

we're getting nowhere

so I will stop

@stone raft are you getting amd or nvidia ?

[stone raft]

Depends on which one gets to my hands first...I really want to see the spec of the amd before buying it

[spice prawn]

wait for reviews of both imo :)

[stone raft]

ya, probably gonna do that...Waiting for that NDA to be up so the reviews can come out

[main panther]

is there a difference between hdmi and display port? not sure if the money is worth an extra hdmi on the graphics card if i can get away with an adapter

[lone pond]

according to most people

display port is better

I mean

nvm

[stone raft]

DisplayPort has typically offered higher maximum bandwidth than HDMI as well, and while HDMI 2.1 does beat DisplayPort 1.4, DisplayPort 2.0 regains the lead. ... DisplayPort 1.2 introduced HBR2, doubled the maximum data bit rate to 17.28 Gbps and is compatible with standard HBR DisplayPort cables

[lone pond]

if you're looking at expensive monitor

then DP HDMI is important

but if you're gonna buy affordable monitor like me

mostly DP 1.2

and HDMI 1.4 I guess

[rugged crater]

Is a 1650 worth it for $150?

[kind wigeon]

@rugged crater ehhhhhhhhh for 170-175 u can get a rx 580 8 gb....

I mean

that is the value of the card

but like

175

8 gb gpu

[rugged crater]

@rugged crater ehhhhhhhhh for 170-175 u can get a rx 580 8 gb....
@kind wigeon I’d prefer to stick with nvidia