@maiden plinth still drops frames. Just not nearly as bad. I’m sure with a few updates they can make it be even less. But it’s gonna take time
#graphics-cards
vale forge
maiden plinth
After Witcher 3, I would trust them with my nards my good sir
And true but the relevant frames, especially for non-competitive games. I don’t sweat that
lone pond
the rtx cyperbunk demo is way to 
RTX ON and released right in line with a paper launch..
vale forge
Of course. If they’re playing to be visually stunned. Then it definitely is worth it. I typically play competitive games. But it is nice to play visually pleasing games
maiden plinth
Look at every reputable source, wasnt a paper launch. Companies screwed up with bots but there were cards. Honestly we’re speculating at this point but it’s still exciting. Like I’m coming from a 1070
lone pond
nvidias website
grave vapor
Hi
lone pond
was paper
100%
aibs, newegg? nah.. but nvidia = 100%
the only way it could go from notify to sold out that fast, is if someone actually was manipulating orders directly into the db all at once, there is just no fkin way
grave vapor
Can’t wait to finally game again after waiting 3 weeks
vale forge
Allot of sites where paper, Amazon/BB. A few may of had them. The crazy thing is I keep seeing posts about Vietnam having dozens left lol
languid knot
It wasn’t paper. They didn’t limit purchases so bots could get 10+
maiden plinth
I’m waiting for his leather jacket to turn into a part of Qanon
languid knot
Which is a huge duck up
lone pond
if a bunch of packet replay and forge bots along with a bunch of post/get script bots hammer the site nvidia right, right at time to sell.. the site would of lagged and lagged, like how zotacs store was the other day.. never allowing u to add to cart
vale forge
Defiantly should be a lottery launch
lone pond
the only way it would go notify directly to sold out, is direct db hacking or, they never even where gonna sell anyway and it was a lie.
vale forge
Lol
proper jungle
I would use a 3070 and one question... would the mobo look tacky with all that black? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ryguy21/saved/#view=3y3sLk
Any other recommendations too
shy kernel
nice zuckles pfp btw
proper jungle
lol thanks
shy kernel
and yeah mobo would look out of place with that build imo
lone pond
the nvidia ceo is just a realy 
though.. its all just a scam to get more ppl buying 3090s on the 24th.. watch. no offical benchmarks - pre reviews alowed.. leaks show its only 10% faster than a 3080 for twice the cash.. lul. ppl gonna be so mad they cant get 3080, 3090 gonna be in stock at nvidia.com.. just u wait and se.
shy kernel
people are gonna buy it
regardless
im doing a 3070 build but im worried they're immediately gonna sell out everywhere
lone pond
that and 3070 ti will be released before christmas
😄
3070 is gonna be massivly purchased for sure though
shy kernel
;-;
proper jungle
Yeah for sure
shy kernel
im getting the dual fan zotac one
lone pond
3070 gonna make ps3 release look like casual shopping day
lone pond
2080ti for 400 bucks lol..
i bet u some where, there is gonna be 100+ ppl camping outside best buy
proper jungle
Will micro center carry them
lone pond
so many ppl playing cod on like 1070s 1060s or less
grave vapor
2080ti for 400 bucks lol..
@lone pond damn where u finding those??
shy kernel
used on ebay prolly
grave vapor
Nope 👎
shy kernel
o?
grave vapor
Still all costing 700+
grave vapor
The price atleast went down like 300 bucks tho
shy kernel
i saw a couple for 450 a week ago
grave vapor
In ebay??
grave vapor
Was it on a bid?
shy kernel
yeah but thats what it ended on
lone pond
no was talking about the 3070 lol
shy kernel
like one guy bid
lone pond
when it gos on sale for 400 bucks (2080ti for 400)
grave vapor
I could not find one
I found a zotac 2080ti for sale but it’s broken apparently
Says the fans spin and stuff but no signal
shy kernel
yikes
rapid herald
has anyone in here acutaly gotten a 3080?
grave vapor
What if it was just a bad display cable 
shy kernel
which one?
grave vapor
Uh a 
2080 super for 420
shy kernel
nicee
lone pond
gpu with fan spining and no signal but computer that keeps running without constant rebooting = very very dead gpu 😛
grave vapor
It’s gonna be a temporary card tho till I can get my hands on a 3070
shy kernel
you could prolly sell it for more than you paid for it tbh
grave vapor
Probably.
But eh. I plan to use it till stocks are stable in the 3070 then I’ll sell it
shy kernel
smart
sharp bear
The 3080 strix webpage got updated to include the bundle
round mason
limpid latch
those ppl should have sold or not even gotten 2080ti n waited
sold much sooner
my friend did that half year ago i was like u got 1080ti just wait
arctic bone
rapid herald
anyone in here actually get a 3080?
tropic ember
Yup
rapid herald
@high nimbus oh u get one too!?
does anyone have an extra one? Im willing to pay extra
high nimbus
Ya. No extras sorry mate, it was hard enough getting one hahah.
stuck swan
Anyone having issues with shipping after purchasing a 3080?
high nimbus
Mine is out for delivery but I have seen some reddit posts about that
Rona still messing up shipping
stuck swan
Mine has sat for 3 days now in baldwin park, ca
high nimbus
Who’s the shipper
stuck swan
UPS
stuck swan
No permissions, but it is saying it left baldwin park, but after paying for expedited shipping id like to think it would take roughly 3 days
high nimbus
Pm it
tropic ember
Mine is Thursday 😦
tropic ember
Saw that as well
vale forge
Trolling again. Asus Tuf
sharp bear
Did the strix come out?
On newegg it says sold out now and doesn't say pre release anymore
grave vapor
Yeah it released yesterday
terse bloom
I thought they said it wouldn't release until the week of the 28th? According to JJ on his stream/video
rapid herald
Am i stupid? Im on amazon typing in rtx 3080 and it just keeps showing me 20 series cards
grave vapor
On the app?
rapid herald
my pc
terse bloom
Nah pretty sure thats everyone. Its cause theres none in stock, so they're trying to apply substitutes
grave vapor
Yep
rapid herald
oh wow
grave vapor
They restocked this week?
rapid herald
i wonder when Nvidia and EVGA are doing their other restocks this week
rapid herald
r u talking about the 3080 ro 3090?
sharp bear
The strix 3080
rapid herald
thats when there restocking GPUs?
sharp bear
That's when the strix comes out
rapid herald
oh
sharp bear
Sometime after the 24th or on the 24th
grave vapor
I’m pretty sure they said it was delayed till 21st
rapid herald
I dont want that one tbh
grave vapor
Whattt??
sharp bear
They said that was the tuf oc
rapid herald
the strix was?
grave vapor
The strix is prolly the best looking one out of all of them 
rapid herald
wait im confused/
grave vapor
Aorous design was underwhelming
sharp bear
Someone was on the website when it was "stocked"
The price went up and they had no option to add it to cart then the price just disappeared
rapid herald
im going to Microcenter tomorrow cuz my local one has a truck coming. Hopefully they have a 3080
sharp bear
Which microcenter
rapid herald
where do you live? Cuz i aint tell ya if you live in my state cuz i dont want ya to go try to get one
lol
lolol
sharp bear
Tustin is the closest one to me
rapid herald
oh...im in Illinois
sharp bear
I wouldn't be able to go because I have school work
sharp bear
Unless I wanted to leave and have over 5 hours of school work to do later than maybe
sharp bear
The strix is 850
rapid herald
dang
im hoping they have one of the asus Tufffs. I like those designs personally. hopefully they have something tommorrow
languid knot
It’s probably safe to say when RDNA 2 is announced and the 3090 is released the 3080 will be more available
vale forge
@rapid herald lemme know if they got any in stock. I live in Chicago too. But took a camping trip out west till Thursday 😂😭
languid knot
There was stock at Newegg today. Very shortly
rapid herald
@vale forge ok. I live closer to the one in westmont. So thats the one ill be going too
sharp bear
Turns out newegg just updated the webpage for the strix
rapid herald
@languid knot yeah that was the EVGA thing right?
vale forge
I’d take the trip down south if need be 😂 pretty sure they only get like 5 at a time.
rapid herald
this week they said'
languid knot
Don’t count on it tho
rapid herald
why not?
languid knot
They can say this week and always change
Keep checking, but don’t be disappointed if they don’t
languid knot
I agree lol but a lot of people seem to think it was a paper launch so I’m just saying things happen
sharp bear
Isn't he working overtime now just to respond to people's questions
languid knot
Yes
I know.... I’m saying that’s what people said showing that people don’t know what’s going on at all times....
I think EVGA will but we will see. Idk why they won’t stock it up a lot everywhere tho with how many people want to give them the money
rapid herald
@languid knot you said EVGA isnt restocking at all today, correct?
languid knot
I dont believe today. they said sometime this week as far as I understand
languid knot
rapid herald
im just waiting for a twitter update or something
i wonder what thousands is though
1000 or 20,000. ya know?
languid knot
tens of thousands if I would guess
rapid herald
ok good
languid knot
Im thinking these next few weeks nvidia will be pushing hard before RDNA 2
languid knot
I think RDNA 2 can beat out the 3070 so I believe that they want the higher priced cards to sell as much as they can
rich oasis
Just 
languid knot
but thats going off of how the 5700xt performed slightly better than the 2070s in some areas once the drivers were fixed. at $100 less too
So Im thinking that AMD might beat Nvidia out at the sweet spot this time around
rich oasis
just
languid knot
But dont listen to me cause Im a college student who likes tech
high nimbus
Jacob freeman said he’ll update us later today, but not likely to have a restock.
languid knot
all sites seem to be updating for bots tho. I dont think that is related
spice prawn
fun detail for people to (hopefully) think about: You, as the consumer, cannot tell if a site has (effective) bot protection or not
terse bloom
spice prawn
the only thing that list tells you is this: Sometime between now and way later there will be cards
languid knot
yay
spice prawn
things that use hardware accel
trim crown
so turn that off with discord and steam?
trim crown
no browsers open
spice prawn
okay :) browsers are normally the source of it
but yeah, just try and close the things you suspect are using it
trim crown
spice prawn
that one cannot "know" the full number
trim crown
i see...
spice prawn
because that is the "currently" being used amount
it cannot see if the process in question has dumped a mess on 5 other gigs of vram
trim crown
ive tried turning gpu accel off, nothing changed
how can i check where its using all this extra vram?
spice prawn
well, "something" has left a mess
restart your machine and keep an eye on things
fx, i know that firefox has a habit of leaving a mess behind if i read comics in that
trim crown
I use chrome
spice prawn
the above was the answer to "how"
here is an example from my system
firefox was open
firefox closed
spice prawn
also, keep the following in mind
vram, just like regular ram is there to be used
as long as you dont encounter situations where you are getting limited by things
trim crown
steam is running, no issues...
spice prawn
then it can use 99% for all you need to care about it
trim crown
my problem is i had stuttering and decreased frames playing destiny 2
because of my vram going haywire
im about to open chrome...
i have no clue now.....
wtf
spice prawn
generally, it is not when you open something that it jumps
its over time
the firefox example i gave earlier.
spice prawn
you certain it was shutdown and not in hibernation?
trim crown
i always shut down
and i didnt do anything crazy other than open chrome, close it, play destiny
spice prawn
try and open destiny now
trim crown
Loading
Thanks for the help as always btw
Im going to a hub world and checking there
my gpu is very strange....
spice prawn
you are very welcome
quasi cobalt
Same, my GT 720 been smokin lately
spice prawn
and from the POV of a consumer, how a gpu works is basically magic, so dont beat yourself up about it @trim crown
trim crown
I know just want to know whats wrong and help my gpu feel better 
normal hawk
Everyone's waiting for RDNA2 while I'm sitting here waiting for the Intel GPU's
normal hawk
What
spice prawn
technically, the tech is available for you to read about @normal hawk
anandtech has a article on Tiger Lake that uses that arch.
normal hawk
Yes. But no benchmarks or info on the performance targets. I know they are workstation gpu's rather than gaming but that's about it. Supposed to be expensive and powerful in that sense
spice prawn
you might have gotten things mixed up there @normal hawk
there are a number of different Xe "versions/implementations"
the workstation one is XE [hp]
and the more consumer focused one is the hpg one
normal hawk
Yes and the XE LP is the integrated
normal hawk
HPC is "super computer". I don't see a mention of hpg on Tom's hardware but maybe it's out of date
normal hawk
"Intel has talked about three broad classifications of Xe Graphics: Xe LP for low power / low performance devices, Xe HP for high performance solutions, and Xe HPC for data center applications." Is what I was looking at on Tom's hardware
spice prawn
aye, that was before the hot chips conference
(and if that article was posted after? that is just the writer being either lazy or uninformed)
normal hawk
Well I'm curious as to where the gaming gpu's will fall in line now
spice prawn
see the tiger lake article i mentioned
gives you an idea about where it could be strong/weak etc
normal hawk
I'm clueless as to the tech side of gpu's. But I see Raytracing, DirectX12 ultimate support is likely, gddr6, and they want it for gaming enthusiasts.
I'd guess they'll try to match Nvidia in terms of pricing rather than cutting costs to match AMD.
spice prawn
try the tiger lake article Ian and Andrei dont go too technical in that one
so it might be quite informative for you
and Ian does do some speculation in there on potential
re: cost?: i doubt they are going to aim that high for the HPG chips
halcyon python
I got a notification saying that the Zotac trinity 3080 went back on sale on Newegg but by the time I clicked the link it was already out of stock again smh
feral estuary
dam it eveytime
dang i cant upload photos but i had it in my card
I had the evga one and the gigabyte but they sold before I could buy them
high nimbus
newegg has stock come in of 3080 as we speak
feral estuary
Yea there site crashed about 3 mins ago
high nimbus
it's back up and down
feral estuary
Yea
static zinc
seems every 5-10 minutes a few more get released
spice prawn
yes, normal logistics management at play there @static zinc
static zinc
almost had one at 5:10 and 5:30
feral estuary
Same i've almost got one twice now
high nimbus
trying to get one for my friend
placed one order that got canceled
got another order placed right now
static zinc
unfortunately the only FE and XC3 black will fit my case
broken wharf
is the website down rn
high nimbus
Was for me so I gave up for now
One pending order they have not cancelled yet for xc3 black
magic prism
Which
round mason
oc
edition
its gone now
XD
evga and the gigabyte ones were restocked and now are gone
feral estuary
i've had 3 3080 in my cart and so far have only managed to buy a psu by accident that was in a 3080 bundle.
high nimbus
Exactly why I’m stepping up for my friend lol
I work from home. He’s constantly on the road when working.
It’s a sacrifice I am willing to make
feral estuary
I got lucky and today was the only day that i've been off for the last 10 days
high nimbus
Did you get one?
feral estuary
No but i'm hoping to
high nimbus
Wishing you best of luck!
clear plover
I am considering just buying a bot
Screw the economy, its not like ill be upgrading in the next decade
🤡
feral estuary
hmm a bot that spends my money for me, na im good enough at that myself
light sphinx
high nimbus
No cancellation yet 😮
feral estuary
can an item still be bought out from under you like when its in your cart and your on the payment screen?
untold void
yep
feral estuary
Well that sucks because newegg is making me verify my full card number before every purchase
halcyon python
Same
untold void
I mean even if you do checkout.. high chance they will cancel your order 😦
feral estuary
Have they been doing that?
untold void
Happened to me and a lot of other people.
clear plover
feral estuary
dam that sucks
tawdry niche
rich oasis
feral estuary
its already out of stock
green harness
It looks like it's in stock to me as well
feral estuary
it told me it was out once i got to paytment and now newegg crashed
halcyon python
In stock for me but also it looks the ugliest lol
feral estuary
ive been trying
round mason
its gone
newegg
crashing
i was already
checking out with paypal
and the stock poofed
and now its crashing
rich oasis
lmao 3080 just crashed the site
feral estuary
oh come on newegg give me a chance my poor pc is gpu less lol
halcyon python
same lol
gilded hawk
Is jt gone?
feral estuary
my rx580 died 2 weeks ago and ive just been waiting for this 3080
civic harbor
Does the rx570 suck for an entry level 1080p pc
rich oasis
no
civic harbor
Epic
gilded hawk
Did it get out of stock?
feral estuary
I think so
gilded hawk
Damnt
halcyon python
I just refreshed and it says out for me
civic harbor
*pulls out used 2080ti
shrewd cloak
Thank you for visiting Newegg.com. We are truly sorry for any inconvenience but we are currently experiencing problems on our server. Please try again at a later time.
Amazing
brittle raven
brittle raven
Site crashed during checkout
shrewd cloak
same
brittle raven
second time it happened to me today
shrewd cloak
one click away
shrewd cloak
NOOO
feral estuary
Same here
round mason
u sure?
round mason
and your proof?
brittle raven
The amount of traffic to down an entire site like Newegg the instant a listing pops up
wouldn't likely be generated by humans
spice prawn
@brittle raven you are underestimating a bunch of things there :)
round mason
i mean
shrewd cloak
Oh look the shopping cart works now
brittle raven
RTX 3080 got yeeted from cart
shrewd cloak
^^
round mason
and that bish went down real quick
i was already checked out with paypal
and it said stock was gone
shrewd cloak
its ok its working now in case you want to buy a 2080ti
marble lagoon
I had a 3080 in my cart hit the checkout button and it says it's out of stock nice going newegg
brittle raven
Yup
I had an RTX 3080 in the checkout phase and then the entire website got rekt
and then when it reloaded, it removed the card from my cart
shrewd cloak
I'm sure it will pop on ebay for $2000 please look forward to it
round mason
yes
brittle raven
round mason
no captcha
"bot protection in place"
actually
sometimes the captcha be catching me
spice prawn
i find it fascinating that "captcha" is the only thing you believe is needed.
spice prawn
bot protection is way more complex than that
brittle raven
It's similar to DDoS attack protection
spice prawn
yes/no/kinda/not-really
feral estuary
I mean a captcha would at least slow the bot at the start but once they code a captcha solver into the bot for newegg then we will be the slow ones.
brittle raven
It's always going to be a cat-and-mouse game
between security and bot developers
as with any other security measure
magic prism
MSI 3080 was in my cart and I hit checkout for the transaction
Newegg site died
;-;
brittle raven
same
brittle raven
Only the bots got 'em
spice prawn
@magic prism if that is all it takes, i think a lot of people would love to trade places with you:)
its just a gpu
have patience
you will get it sooner or later
spice prawn
does not change the point of what i said :)
magic prism
But I need to push more frames on my PC for comp
magic prism
^
stone raft
I like seeing people in as much pain as I am...
magic prism
lol
brittle raven
If you are a human not using an automated program to buy these cards, then you're probably not going to get one
That's the reality of it now
Until stock normalizes
Which might take months
magic prism
and if you are using a bot, you don't deserve these cards because chances are you apply a 200-300% mark up and slam it on ebay
stone raft
ugh...pay $75 to use those script
magic prism
Nah
dreamy dragonBOT
emokun#7411 has been warned
spice prawn
IF all the people that have set their pants on fire, could just take a cold shower and show some patience
it would be solved by itself
it is THAT simple.
magic prism
Lol
stone raft
This piece meal crap by newegg is killing me
magic prism
That doesn't void the LARGE demand there is for these cards
stone raft
but I will stalk the site
spice prawn
cards can only get here "so" fast
magic prism
Ok yeah in Mutliple months they will catch up
spice prawn
again. its just a card.
dreamy dragonBOT
Rithvl#5842 has been warned
brittle raven
Just wait for two years when people start panic-selling them for the new Hopper cards
magic prism
"Again it's just a card"
brittle raven
"The ultimate play"
magic prism
Say it one more time
spice prawn
considering people seem to have a hard time understanding it, sometimes repetition helps @magic prism
magic prism
Lol
round mason
man im in my virtual classroom
round mason
and me and my classmate are just looking for 3080's
brittle raven
Just wait 10 years for them to be $20 in a garage sale
spice prawn
read again.
brittle raven
spice prawn
and it would appear you can also make wild assumptions about intent.
magic prism
I can also make wild assumptions about other things too
stone raft
man I got a 790, I need a new video card for my new build
magic prism
yikes
stone raft
I was gonna buy the 2080ti but this card was a week away
magic prism
Good idea that you didn't
Because you would've thrown away quite a bit of money because of devaluation of 2080ti
stone raft
ya...Would have lost money then trash the card in anger
magic prism
Not a good move
stone raft
FTW3 should be released this week
magic prism
?
stone raft
Evga FTW3
magic prism
ah
brittle raven
EVGA is also doing small drip-feed releases on their website this week
magic prism
sitting on my auto notifications waiting for anything
brittle raven
none today, but they say they have more later this week
stone raft
they did it for the xc like 2 day ago
brittle raven
"thousands"
stone raft
got it in the cart...almost paid
magic prism
Prolly is thousands just over time
stone raft
Crash
brittle raven
Supposedly they were releasing them over the course of an hour yesterday
stone raft
What is nvidia doing? why is all the other guys releasing stuff but they aren't?
brittle raven
Nvidia isn't making many of their FE cards
stone raft
want to starve us to get the 3090?
magic prism
I mean they make money off of any card
brittle raven
the FE costs too much to make
stone raft
orly?
stone raft
guess I will stop even looking at their Website then
spice prawn
@feral estuary
restive grove
How gows the RTX congaline today?
magic prism
bad
feral estuary
so far its been a sad day, had it in my cart 3 times.
magic prism
twice for me
stone raft
I had the crash happen to me like 7 times since this card came out
magic prism
right to be emo
brittle raven
stone raft
always when it is time to pay
magic prism
They dont want your money
restive grove
I can only fit one of four models in my case anyway
stone raft
then I go on ebay and cry
restive grove
Founders, Asus Tuf, PNY, and EVGA
magic prism
One of my buddies has a case that literally can't fit any except 1 model
restive grove
Oh a new Cougar MX410
stone raft
I bought the Lian li Lancool II
restive grove
only 300mm cards in that shorty, its wide however for big cpu coolers
stone raft
It better fit any card I want
restive grove
lol
magic prism
Do you have fans/radiator on the front?
restive grove
naw just led rings
i left all my rgb in my dirty Fractal Focus case
Newegg isn't here?
dreamy dragonBOT
emokun#7411 has been warned
feral estuary
Dam this makes the 4th one that I got into my cart. I wish once it was in your cart it was secured and you can buy iy
dreamy dragonBOT
Rithvl#5842 has been warned
terse bloom
Same, Creaky
Had it in my cart, but won't let me use paypal checkout, and secure checkout, won't let me log in.
stone raft
if this thing asks me for a password one more time
not even signed out but it wants me to put in a password everytime I try to purchase
spice prawn
remember that bot protection you wanted? that is part of that.
stone raft
is it? Welp...That is nice I guess
spice prawn
so is the staggered rollout of stock
round mason
rip newegg canada
💔
huh
why does newegg work in other browsers but not in chrom
trim citrus
errant spade
Ugh, I got order confirmation on an RTX 3080 and then newegg voided because of stock. =| That sucks a lot
umbral moss
which 3080?
errant spade
EVGA black
umbral moss
ah yeah exact same thing happened to me
drowsy bramble
they told me that they voided both of yours and gave it to me because i am more important and need two.
stone raft
that sucks
errant spade
Yeah, I was so excited
umbral moss
this must be the power of anti-bot measures
errant spade
Yeah but... I am not a bot. =P
drowsy bramble
that sucks though, i haven't gotten past add to cart. then it says your welcome we removed from cart because we wanted to.
umbral moss
yeah it's been rough tonight
in all this craziness i havent heard one story of someone successfully checking out an MSI. is it really the case that they're staggering the stock as an anti bot measure?
terse bloom
A friend of mine managed to snag a MSI Ventus 3080 from Best Buy on release.
He just got the notification today that it's being shipped .
umbral moss
i mean tonight right now on newegg
spice prawn
@umbral moss staggered stock is normal procedure for high demand items. Its been like this for the last 20 years at least (in logistics)
terse bloom
I dunno then. I was trying to get the MSI Gaming X Trios. Just couldn't get paypal checkout to work, or log in. Kept getting errors when I tried.
umbral moss
i dunno i just feel like if any of this anti bot stuff were actually working there would be at least one guy in here who managed to pull it off
it's gone up like four times and i only see people getting the same errors
drowsy bramble
i think you dont realize how many people are actually trying to get one vs how many are available
umbral moss
yeah you're probably right haha
spice prawn
@umbral moss the people in here are so far below 1% of the people that shop on newegg, that it is not remotely funny :)
stone raft
2 available 1000s trying to get it lol
high nimbus
When they cancel your order after 2 hours of having an order confirmation 🤕
high nimbus
Not enough stock
stone raft
just send a email saying we will get you the next one
rapid yoke
Does anyone know if anywhere will have any more stock added
high nimbus
🤷♂️
stone raft
Evga tomorrow, thurs, or friday
rapid yoke
I am tired of adding to cart and not being able to even checkout. I wish i could find a legit place. I refuse to pay a scalper
umbral moss
they said something about how if they cant fulfil the order within two days of it being placed they just void it. they dont do backorders
stone raft
but it will be this week
high nimbus
That’s probably why it took so long to verify @umbral moss not a good sign for restocks.
stone raft
last time they did it...the site was hammered
spice prawn
consider this:
If they say: we will have stock
people will demand a number of units
and they will NOT consider that other people might be faster than them at getting it
stone raft
lol, they already demanding stats on who were human and who were bots
spice prawn
which frankly newegg only cares about because people are asking
a sale is a sale
and that is NOT exclusive to newegg
that is all vendors
high nimbus
Naed is right. They want to increase their bottom line. Implementing some sophisticated bot prevention software does not help with that.
mellow minnow
They just need to make more cards before selling
languid knot
Well EVGA is holding back on launching cards to put bot prevention in place and get more cards
at least thats what they have said
stone raft
im trying hard to get their card...I love their pr...Jacob has been mad helpful
stone raft
same
languid knot
Im willing to wait until november for one of the two, past that point I might not care tho\
but I feel cards will be able to be picked up in october with RDNA 2 coming out as well as the 3090 and 3070
terse bloom
Honestly, I have a MSI build going on. Case, Mobo, CPU cooler. I'd like to get an MSI GPU to match.
restive grove
I originally planned on buying a 3070 to keep within a budget build pairing it with a 3600XT, but the 3070 isn't out until October so......
terse bloom
Is "SHI" a reliable retailer? I was checking out MSI's website, and it says you can pre-order from them.
stone raft
never heard of them
stone raft
they have a out of stock but have a add to cart button
terse bloom
Yeah, for pre-orders. It's just.. No idea when stock comes in, and when the pre-order will be fulfilled. Why I'm skeptic.
stone raft
don't like they are charging 100 bucks more
terse bloom
I noticed that too.
stone raft
They are BSing us by saying the MSRP is $853 and they are giving us a discount to $810
terse bloom
Oh yeah. I saw that they said MSRP for the MSI Gaming X Trios was $799.99 and selling it for $868. When the price on Newegg and Micro Center is like $759.99
drowsy bramble
In February 2017, SHI was named to a $13.7 million contract option to support the Defense Logistics Agency’s Microsoft software.[26]
In 2015, SHI was named to two NASA Solutions for Enterprise-Wide Procurement (SEWP) V federal buying contracts for groups A and D.[
yes SHI should be fine
(i have never used them and who knows when it will get in stock
but it should be safe
umbral moss
what do people here think of zotac cards? are they good?
stone raft
No idea...No one I know has a opinion of them. They are just there...
high nimbus
my understanding is they make fine cards. Just kinda like the ugly duckling of the bunch that's not that bad, but ignored.
frigid anvil
Probably just not updated.
round mason
hate to say but i hate the gigabyte cards more than the zotac card
languid knot
Its a good card and it looks okay, not the top choice tho
round mason
get the tuf
restive grove
I've owned two Zodiac gpu's, they are built sturdy but no fancy bells and whistles
round mason
it looks pretty good and performs really well and great price
terse bloom
I have a friend who likes the zotac card best. For him, it's the best looking. I think ASUS Strix is best looking personally.
round mason
^ agreed altho the strix is a bit pricey
umbral moss
i've heard a lot about gigabyte lol. someone mentioned how their 3080 has a similar cooling system to their 2080 ti and it's really bad.
terse bloom
It is, but at the same time, ASUS Strix is also supposedly the record holder for OCing right now.
hard wren
The reference card looks nice
terse bloom
So for best looks, best OCing, then I guess the price for the ASUS Strix might be justified. Can't say anything about cooling tho.
restive grove
Asus Tuf beats Founders cards hands down on cooling, others haven't be tested however
stone raft
how many fans should the case have? I got like 3, plus the heatsink/ fan for the cpu then there is the 3 fans for the gpu
stone raft
I heard it was only 10% better than the 3080
hard wren
3 case fans sounds good to me
stone raft
let me find the article
hard wren
its about 20% faster average
merry siren
oh huh-- yeah hopefully it gets better
hard wren
the big difference is that 24g vs 10g ram
lone pond
the 20gb 3080 soundin pretty good rn
stone raft
is that real?
hard wren
they will release that right after I buy the 3090 to spite me
hard wren
Linus said they could go as high as a 42g 3080 but he was joking kind of..
stone raft
I would get big navi but I was burned to badly by AMD video card software
lone pond
arent people saying its like 16gb of vram
stone raft
I still have memories of updating the card and lost all the sound
languid knot
Would a normal 10g 3080 be fine for 1440p gaming then? Why would I need to 20gb?
lone pond
yeah it should be great
hard wren
16gvram on a top tier nvidia card vs a top tier amd card isnt really the same thing
lone pond
anybody who renders or anything else vram intensive could take use of the 20gb
it may not be useful to you but it may be required for others
languid knot
Ah okay thanks. Yeah I’m still between a 2080 super or 3080 but that helps to know
hard wren
3080 is much more future proof
lone pond
true true
hard wren
but there are going to be a lot of used 2080S and 2080tis on the market after this launch
languid knot
Which is why I’m leaning towards it. I need the computer by mid to late November tho so that’s why I might go with the super
hard wren
I myself will probably be selling 2 2080tis
lone pond
i think you will get a 3080 by then
october is going to reach an all time high of resupply so everyone should be able to get their hands on one
languid knot
Yeah I’ve been checking everyday and I’ve been close to a few of the more expensive ones but stopped myself from buying ones I don’t need
lone pond
yeah today i just barely missed the gaming trio on newegg
drowsy bramble
:0
lone pond
sold out in 5 minutes i think
spice prawn
@stone raft Zotac are who you can "thank" for factory OC cards
spice prawn
iirc that is
lone pond
nice, but i dont want to backorder
stone raft
that a backorder?
drowsy bramble
Yea I now can stop looking though
languid knot
Idc about back orders, they’ll still come by mid October
drowsy bramble
Said October 12th probably
lone pond
thats optimistic 👍
languid knot
That sounds right
lone pond
let me know though
stuck rivet
bitwit and awesome hardware is talking about 3090
drowsy bramble
I am guessing mid October
lone pond
yeah
stone raft
Link me
drowsy bramble
Or worse
languid knot
3090 will be nice
lone pond
but by mid october i hope supply will plateau
languid knot
I think RDNA 2 might beat Nvidia out at the lower end and maybe the top end but not the 3080
lone pond
maybe maybe
languid knot
Cause once stable the 5700xt was a great card at $400
hard wren
I dont think they are shooting for 3080/3090 but hopefully it will be on par or better than a 3070
drowsy bramble
@stone raft https://m.cdw.com/search/?key=MSI+3080
stone raft
I wonder if I should just backorder and stop stalking the websites
hard wren
I dont think so they havent in the past
lone pond
I wonder if I should just backorder and stop stalking the websites
@stone raft the cool thing about cdw is the dont charge your card until it is sent or something
drowsy bramble
That’s why I did it emokun now I don’t have to look at all
lone pond
so if you get your hands on one before they ship you can get your money back
drowsy bramble
Can just know it will show up whenever it shows up
stone raft
the MSI is 828?
lone pond
yeah cause they are backordering so you are paying the "wait on a list" premium
stone raft
lowest one is the zotac at 785
hmmm
Hey @drowsy bramble , do the cards still come with free games or nah?
lone pond
you mean like legion
drowsy bramble
no clue, didnt really care
stone raft
ya
drowsy bramble
yea hes asking about from cdw, says nothing on the CDW page
lone pond
yeah one sec i can check
stone raft
lol PNY card was just on sale on bestbuy
lone pond
if all the leaks are correct, im pretty sure they are going for better than 3080, thats why nvidia made 3090 and dident call it a titan ;/
no 1 would be like, well big navi is smashed by titan card
but they will say, meh 3090 crushes it and its mainstream
drowsy bramble
only if you want to bee
languid knot
Pny card good?
lone pond
nah not really
drowsy bramble
https://www.cdw.com/product/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-gddr6-10gb/6257639 this one says ships 0-2 days
rapid herald
do you think EVGA will drop more stock tomorrow?
rapid herald
they better
drowsy bramble
or else?
lone pond
just based off of freeman's twitter
languid knot
Pny card gone
lone pond
yeah it was gone instantly
languid knot
Not for me
rapid herald
yeah. Im running to Micro center tomiorrow. they said there having a truck come in so im hoping there is a 3080 on it
drowsy bramble
good luck
lone pond
i wish i had a microcenter near me
languid knot
I had it in my cart and all just didn’t buy it
lone pond
wtf
languid knot
But I was instantly on it
drowsy bramble
in cart doesnt mean it was able to check out thouhg
lone pond
you shouldve bought it
@lone pond you think 3090 will be good?
lmao
bamranch
remember me?
huh
yeah i think so..
stone raft
@rapid herald which microcenter?
lone pond
refresh my brain tho
languid knot
I’m waiting for the card I want I’m also not going to scalp so I won’t buy I card I don’t like
lone pond
@lone pond for triple 4k monitor setups or 8k yea, anything less its not worth it and most likely bottlenecked
rapid herald
@stone raft Westmont Illinois
stone raft
hmm
lone pond
kk well i was going to go for a 3090 but now that i see leaked benchmarks i changed my mind ( for now) so i may go for a 3080 or just w8 even more
stone raft
I should call my local microcenter
rapid herald
@stone raft wheres yours at?
stone raft
lancaster PA
lone pond
single 4k monitor or less, 3090 is 100% not worth it
i have 3 1440p 144hz monitos
so 3080?
rapid herald
@stone raftTherse is one in PA?
lone pond
meh i would get a 3090 for that
stone raft
I was surprised too
rapid herald
dang lol
stone raft
I didn't know it existed
lone pond
u reguarly game across all 3 1440p monitors?
dreamy dragonBOT
Zectrin#0684 has been warned
rapid herald
Besides brick and mortar stores, whats the best way to get a card online?
lone pond
refresh honestly
i would say triple 1440p monitors would want a 3090 yes, or the 3080ti with more mem
rapid herald
Ive been uto freshing 4 browers and i havent seen anything
lone pond
unlucky ig
best buy had a card like 10 minutes ago
evga had cards yesterday
there was an msi card on newegg around 5
Triple monitor 1440p is in the neighborhood of 11 megapixels, while 4k is 8.3 @lone pond
rapid herald
yeah i know bout EVGA. I was working, I know Nvidia is supposed to drop thousands this week as well
lone pond
kk
but 3090 for more then 2x price of 3080 at only 10% better idk
so yea a 3090 might scale on triple 1440p better than the 10% on 4k vs a 3080
can we hop in vc though
that 10% better is single monitor 4k res zec
ahh'
yeah i think the 3090 could be worth for you
its a 8k card
upscaled
but true
hmmm
so 30% better if i get 3090 on all 3 monitors?
dreamy dragonBOT
Ocoom#2547 has been warned
lone pond
with*
lmao who knows
would depend on the game, and who knows
mabye leaks were fake even
when do reviews come out for the 3090
thursday
fallen folio
o
lone pond
was just wating bitwit stream and somone asked
and it sucks
what type of games do u plan to triple monitor? all of them? lol
cause if u wanna w8 for reviews then u may not be able to even get the card
i dont think 3090 is gonna be in short supply
tbh
not as much as the 3080.. not many ppl gonna pay double for 10 percent...
honest, i have a 1050 rn only thing i need to upgrade, i got monitors for rly good deal and now that a good gpu is out im ready to do a big upgrade so none yet
maiden plinth
The 3090 leaks were based around it being tested like a 3080. You have to use it in a way where it's maxed out CPUs, top tier monitors, all that fancy stuff. It's built for way more than the 3080 can do, and those comparisons aren't from accurate testing
lone pond
yea untill actuall 8k becnhmarks or insane multi mon setups get benched on the 3090 there is no real way to know
but, its safe to say with the leaks.. it is probably most likely cpu bottelnecked in single 4k setups acrros most games
maiden plinth
Exactly. The problem is people are saying it's only 10% better in comparison to what the 3080 can do, but the reason it exists in the first place is to do things that the 3080 really can't even be tested to do
lone pond
also, it seems the cards are super power limited...
@lone pond so you think i should w8 for reviews then mabye hit up best buy and cop one if any good?
languid knot
Yes
lone pond
if ur thinking of buying a 1600 dollar gpu
dreamy dragonBOT
wallabi#8489 has been warned
maiden plinth
I'm personally not getting one (I backordered a MSI TRIO 3080 off CDW), but it's one of those things where you want people to accurately assess it rather than jump on inaccurate benchmarks
lone pond
and 1500
im waiting for navi or 3080ti
what ever i can purchase first
should i w8 for 3080ti tho
languid knot
I’m wondering if a 750w psu will be enough for the 3080...
lone pond
for sure
i just copped a 850watt and installed 2day lol
is it gold?
u need a really good psu some ppl say
what?
the lower the watts, the better the psu better be
languid knot
J2c has said his 1200w and threadripper with the 3080 has had issues
languid knot
I’m getting a 750w gold but idk
lone pond
there a reviews that show setups with the 3080 with 600 watts
maiden plinth
the 3080 ti is gonna be out of my price range most likely but i also don't think i'd get the monitors that would need it. at least not before the next gen of cheaper cards come out that would make it more practical in fourish years
lone pond
750w gold will do just fine
lone pond
it will
yea i wouldent try it on like a 650 bronze
as long as it not some wacky brand
800 bronze
bronze just means it is less power efficient
languid knot
Minimum is 650 but Nvidia says 750 is fine
stone raft
850W coolmaster
lone pond
they dont put expensive caps in bronze psus
@lone pond check dm
sure but if it is 80+ it is probably a reputable brand so youre fine anyways
languid knot
Psu is important to not skimp on. And all good brands are similarly priced
So it’s not too hard
lone pond
yep
but im saying you dont need a 1200w psu
750w is perfect so they dont need to be worried unless they are running a car battery off tehir psu
languid knot
I’m getting a 3700x which is a decently efficient cpu
maiden plinth
that reminds me, anyone heard any news on the 1usmus AMD overclock software? that should help everyone with any potential cap issues with the new cards *update: it comes out on the 29th. Anyone with an AMD CPU should check that out for getting the best performance from overclocks and make it more friendly to your new 3080
gray narwhal
Hey guys I saw a 1070 for a hundred bucks it show up on windows but won’t display and it shows up on gpuz could it just be a mining bios?
Oh and it’s saying asus error code 43
high nimbus
Where does the 3080xc3 exhaust the hot air? Out the top?
spice prawn
all sides
normal hawk
^
spice prawn
its a finstack with fans on top
normal hawk
Wonder if they'll bring back blowers
rapid herald
I wonder if theyll being back the 3080
normal hawk
is there a blower for the 3080?
spice prawn
not that i have noticed yet
but by the logic of there being a 3090 blower style ....
rapid herald
no im being sarcastic because Im desperate for a 3080
spice prawn
there will also be a 3080 blower style
normal hawk
3090 with a blower is ridiculous tbh.
spice prawn
not really
it fits nicely in a rack
which is what the card is made for anyway (imo)
normal hawk
True
celest wave
All those gamer AIB models make you forget it's a Titan replacement
spice prawn
it sure isnt intended for gamers as such
normal hawk
definitely for content creation.
celest wave
Just has the funky regular card designs
lone pond
?
stone raft
ya
drowsy bramble
Fail
lone pond
hahaha i just watched msi 3080 come in stock on newegg then sell out 10 seconds later
drowsy bramble
Less than that
drowsy bramble
Was checking out less than 5sec and didn’t get it
split zodiac
so demoralizing
lone pond
dont stress
lone pond
you will for sure get one within 2 weeks
split zodiac
tired of this bullshit. it's happened like 3 times already
terse bloom
It's terrible. Even in cart, can't even hit checkout without "Sorry, we're having trouble, please try again later"