I hate their thinkpads
#graphics-cards
quick pawn
I’m talking about from a consumer / marketing perspective how would that even effect pricing for a card with 16gbs of VRAM in comparison to the 3080 which has 10gb
Not asking for a direct answer it’s clearly a question up for discussion
spice prawn
and how exactly are we supposed to guess that is what you wanted to know?
sonic mural
Dave we dont know if their even is a super or ti yet
spice prawn
because you asked how the two will compare :)
quick pawn
So you just decided it give you the right of way to be a dick?
Nah man just calm down lmfao
sonic mural
He just means we know nothing more about this than you do
We cant just guess without info
spice prawn
re: consumer/marketing perspective: IF it is like any other "now with extra memory" card in GPU history, it will lead to a slight up tick in card price. and that is it. It might perform better, it might perform the same.
also, do keep in mind, we cannot read your mind
i have said, countless times, there are no stupid question, only silly answers
your original question deserved a silly answer
quick pawn
I get that; but there was many ways to go about answering that without being extremely condescending about the situation
spice prawn
because it was NOT what you actually meant.
as for being condescending. That is your take friend, because i have no ill will towards you or your question.
IF i did. i would not answer at all.
spice prawn
i recommend a sippy cup mate
spare relic
stains?
spice prawn
makes things much cleaner
lone pond
Ned's a grump what else is new
granite juniper
naed why do u just randomly show up and answer like every single question people have and then go sleep for a few days lol
spare relic
Naed is pc question answering god
spice prawn
because i have a life away from the machine too @granite juniper
granite juniper
is that an answer or a personal attack
spice prawn
i dont believe in personal attacks unless i can connect with my shoe to a sensitive area on the other party
:P
granite juniper
idk ur kinda giving off different vibes 
lone pond
How can you have a life away from the machine if we're living in a simulation
spare relic
real questions
trim crown
Im the one living in this simulation, you are all just ai programs keeping me company
arctic phoenix
monke
severe basin
Which one of you is the fly in my room rn
spare relic
Joe is
arctic phoenix
oh
pliant pasture
Who else got the 2080ti recently...
I screwed up
I am getting the 3080 now tho.
Not quite in the budget for the 3090
plush otter
hi does anyone have know good cheap graphics card
pliant pasture
Yeah
3070
Only 500$
CRAZY specs for the price
That’s what my little brother is getting
plush otter
cool where can i find it
pliant pasture
Yeah that’s cool
I’m rebuilding one my little brother made and I have him mine
Gave*
spice prawn
wrong date @pliant pasture
pliant pasture
14th?
plush otter
i play video games on my dads laptop😆
pliant pasture
Sorry
plush otter
cool
spice prawn
but do NOT preorder. wait for reviews
plush otter
so the countdown begins
pliant pasture
Oh yeah baby
Stats like never before
At crazy prices
How the heck did they pull it of?
Idk
plush otter
i might have to get it if my dad will let me
pliant pasture
Like 500 dollars for a gpu twice as good as a 1000 dollar one
plush otter
wow
spice prawn
@pliant pasture please dont throw around hype like it is facts
plush otter
do u think there is a one that is cheaper but still has spec similar to those
spice prawn
we have one, ONE single graph that is vague as all heck, that talks about performance
plush otter
we probably just have to wait and see
lone pond
Ah so the NDA is lifted a couple days before release.
I was worried it would be like on the same day and by the time you figure out if you want the card they're all gone
past laurel
granite juniper
id suggest the extra $100 for a 3070
pliant pasture
Sorry... referring to posts further above
pliant pasture
It does seem really good, idk, I’ll wait for a Newegg stats test
Oh lol this is the Newegg server isn’t it haha
granite juniper
yeah
granite wraith
does anyone know why overclocking my card doesn't work with these new Radeon drivers
I had been using an old version for a long time with no problem
but when I hit apply settings with these new ones, it instantly resets the sliders to default
rigid crag
Ofc I'm making the right choice, who needs 8k 60fps
lone pond
People who use a damned TV as their monitor I guess
pliant pasture
GARLIC BREAD FOR MELLENIA
faint kindle
I wouldn’t preorder if I didn’t need a gpu asap 
Sitting on my 1060, and it’s pretty garbage now
agile vine
Whats a good 1660/ other 200$ gpu?
faint kindle
I’ll tell you guys whether it’s worth or not 
1660 is good
Market is janky rn though
You could probably get a better gpu used in like a month or so
agile vine
But like brand new
agile vine
So if i chose 1660 which company gpu would be the best?
faint kindle
Ooooh I see
Woops my bad
I thought you were asking 1660 or other card that was as good
agile vine
Woahhhhh ur green now
agile vine
I c thanks 🙂
wise wing
Hello, y'all. My 2nd time at Discord... So, I apologize in advance for taking it slowly
I've got a question for anyone who would know. I recently got a Radeon RX580 Sapphire Nitro+ 8gb . . . looks good. BUT, what cables do I need to install to GPU? Looks like two: an 8 pin and a 6 pin. Is that correct?
viscid sable
probably
dawn cedar
@wise wing if thats what your card has then yes. make sure theyre pcie cables and not cpu cables. they look similar but pcie will be 6+2 and cpu is 4+4. they should also be labeled. the end that splits goes into your card and the solid end into the psu
naive echo
rtx 3070 gang
wise wing
Ok, Thanks McCluts... thought I'd check with someone who knew before trying to find a cable. The PSU has 2 PCIe marked and both are 8-pin. The Radeon has a 6-pin and an 8-pin. I think I need a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter. Does that sound correct?
Gad. This is my first build in maybe 15+ years. Do think things have changed? I'm nervous.
spice prawn
the GPU power cables are 6+2, so you dont need a separate adapater
wise wing
Thanks, Need. But, I've got only one cable. It looks like it needs two.
ancient crystal
it goes toe to toe with the 2060 super, edging on it
spice prawn
@wise wing what model of PSU do you have?
wise wing
Corsair CX850M but not all the cables ...
dawn cedar
is the cable not daisy chained? if it only came with one i woukd think it would be
lone pond
I have a question, how long do you think the 3080 will be out of stock after the first day? As in, if it sells out the first day, how long will it be till they restock?
ancient crystal
well there will probably be limited stocks so it will sell quickly if not the first day
dawn cedar
we have no way of knowing
wise wing
shoot . . . no, not daisy chained.
lone pond
True, but per estimate, when will they have more in stock? (estimate-wise)
ancient crystal
while we technically have no way of knowing
spice prawn
there is zero point in guessing @lone pond
dawn cedar
we cant make accurate estimates before the first couple cycles. new manufacturers means new times
ancient crystal
i think the cooler of the new nvidia cards is the most interesting part
spice prawn
@wise wing why do you NOT have all the cables?
because that PSU should have 4 gpu power connectors.
and IF your GPU power cable is NOT a daisy cable ... something is wrong
wise wing
is the cable not daisy chained? if it only came with one i woukd think it would be
@dawn cedar I bought used . . . only 4 cables and only one PCIe
dawn cedar
ah gotcha
spice prawn
because the original cable is a daisy cable.
dawn cedar
well u can try finding one on ebay or something. or u can just buy a new cable
spice prawn
dawn cedar
theyre more expensive than they should be tho
spice prawn
@wise wing also, for future reference do NOT buy a PSU used. especially IF you are NOT very very certain about what you are doing.
dawn cedar
@wise wing https://www.ebay.com/itm/113717943552
wise wing
Uh oh... I thought the PSUs would be fairly stable and workable used
spice prawn
its your parts
its only the heart and lifeblood of the system that you are potentially effing around with
wise wing
Oops, sorry, Naed! I misspelled your name earlier
wise wing
Ok, thanks McClutz
dawn cedar
np. i suggest buying new psus in the future tho
runic trail
im just worried the 3600 will bottleneck the 3070, do you guys think it would?
wise wing
gotcha
dawn cedar
@runic trail no
not for gaming at least
generally cpu bottlenecks occur in low res high fps gaming if any
ancient crystal
i would not worry too much about the idea of bottlenecking too much
bottlenecking is a meme
wise wing
Wish I wudda found this place b 4 I started to put this build together! I'm intemidated!
Shoot, I used to build computers back before any of you were probably born! SCSi, Windows 3.0 (fir darn sake!), huge HDD of 50mb!
wise wing
lol
ancient crystal
i wanted to build PCs back in 1995 but i couldn't afford those lian-li cases and those supermicro motherboards and 486DX4/100 CPUs
wise wing
I'm almost 2x yer age.
runic trail
i'll be playing in 1080p
ancient crystal
let alone the 24 SIMMs you needed to install to get your target RAM
i am exaggerating
it was a lot though
dawn cedar
back in the day when i was born all we had were color tvs and whatnot
ancient crystal
i had black and white as a kid
dawn cedar
the dawn on the century
ancient crystal
i played atari on it because that's how i was educated in gaming
dawn cedar
im only 19 lol
ancient crystal
atari had a black and white switch
that made the graphics look good on black and white TVs
so it was fine
wise wing
heh, heh... the last backup I made on one of my computers I still have - for posterity. It is a CASE of floppy disks - 50 of them! April 1987. You could use a monkey wrench to fix connections!
ancient crystal
lol
see, i don't remember pre-ethernet connections
but that's only because i was poor
and we didn't have nice things
wise wing
yeah... use a monkey wrench and then throw the damn wrench through the monitor and watch it explode.
Those were the days.
But, y
ancient crystal
i have seen a coaxial network in action though, with some bloody old Sun machines on it
that was wild
token ring or something
was not allowed to touch
i wanted to touch
wise wing
🙂
But, y'know. There are people - many people - who don't have even a working smartphone. I teach them.
We can be thankful for what we have today.
wise wing
Ok... sorry to take up so many pixels. Y'all intimidate me. Really.
ancient crystal
it's the slowest and weakest possible
you shouldn't be intimidated
this is a cool tech place, someone like yourself should feel welcomed, though there could be new stuff
wise wing
midnight ledge
yall think i should sell my 2070S for the 3070. Built my pc about a month or month and a half ago and i wasnt aware that new gpus were coming out. i feel scammed. opinions?
ancient crystal
make sure to go without a GPU
lone pond
but u prob wont get a good price
ancient crystal
surely this will not be a problem
lone pond
but its really ur choice
ancient crystal
just use your smartphone forever
midnight ledge
ord idk if i should just wait a year or 2, since theyll probably end up releasing something like a 3070 S or something anyways. Im just hoping my pc build will be on par with the next gen consoles.
wise wing
Ok... thanks everyone... I appreciate your help... I'll keep you posted. My dogs are seriously begging me to go out! It's past their pee time.
ancient crystal
i'm just grabbing a 5600 XT because i'm behind the curve
:3
i play 1080p anyway
hollow zephyr
works p nice for 1440p
lone pond
Why are RX 580s so power hungry?
wicked hound
Isnt it 75w?
spice prawn
@lone pond re: rx580: because they are pushed beyond their sweet spot on the voltage curve
wicked hound
Actually wait no that's 1650 non S is 75w max nvm
lone pond
Fun
spare relic
Yepyep
lone pond
Ima save for the 3070 tho its looking pretty hot rn
faint kindle
@wise wing best of luck to you! Just built my first pc. It’s fun, but a lot goes into it. I commend you for getting back into it!
sacred stone
violet dock
kinda eh in terms of display
lone pond
Will it be possible to buy regular after market cards and not just these huge super clocked beasts that are double the price
Like I just want a gigabyte 3080 or smth
cold stream
wait
violet dock
it will. we dont have details on when. kinda looking like first wave for everything is the 17th on 3080's so far
lone pond
Yeah just hope we get normal cards released at the same time
severe basin
I really like how the new 3080 fe looks, which kinda sucks.
Because either the FE will leave performance on the table and be inferior or it will be in high demand and never available
dawn cedar
@severe basin
severe basin
Yeah I don't be able to jump in on that, looking to do a new build between December-February.
dawn cedar
thats a big window. u should be fine. when ur ready to build hit the notify button and grab the next one available
severe basin
I hope they perform well compared to the aib cards, because I actually do like the look of them. I guess if the partner cards are significantly better I could go with one of the evga hybrid cards, those look pretty cool too.
slim ingot
lone pond
does zotac make good gpus
brisk flame
yes
rigid crag
granite juniper
spice prawn
@rigid crag i vote that we get that pic made even smaller
lone pond
Does the Msi gtx 1650 Ventus Xs need an external power source?
rigid crag
Agreed, its too easy to read
spice prawn
@lone pond does the card have a pci-e power plug on it?
lone pond
As far as I can tell no
spice prawn
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1650-VENTUS-XS-4G-OC/Specification <- IF that is the variant
then no, it is just using the pci-e slot for power :)
lone pond
are yalling going to sell the 3070s
spice prawn
we, the people here, are just community people, we dont deal with that part of things @lone pond
no
weak dune
Yup, looked it up, sorry
spice prawn
@weak dune check the specs for the particular blocks, and the "flag style" pcb of the FE makes things "interesting" this time around :)
lone pond
can anyone help me with something? whenever I am doing something graphically intensive, my computer just reboots
shuts off completely.
grave vapor
OLED display on the gpu?
lone pond
wdym
grave vapor
aorous
lone pond
It's an msi rtx 2070 armor
grave vapor
no the 30 series aorus
lone pond
oh you're not talking about this
yeah I ran kombustor
gpu temps at max 55c
cpu temps in 40s
but then all the sudden it just shuts off
black screen
frigid sapphire
question: i currently have a 1700x for my cpu, i probably will have to upgrade it if i want to get a 3080 or a 3070 right?
lone pond
reboots to windows login screen
anyone know what it could be?
I'm pretty sure it's a faulty gpu
@spice prawn
I think a RTX 2050 is coming
buoyant stone
What cpu and gpu and psu @lone pond
buoyant stone
Any overclocking?
lone pond
I did minimal, but didn't even use it all the time
just boosted core clock by 50 and mem clock by 100
nothing massive
@buoyant stone the temps run fine, I believe it's something wrong with the gpu itself
buoyant stone
Got a spare gpu by chance
lone pond
My brother’s in his pc
Parents are concerned that what happened to mine will happen to his if we plug it in
Just instantly did it when I launched kompressor
Kombustor I meaj
Mean
weak dune
So. I bought into the FE 2080 due to running a Sapphire R9 270 for years, slightly disappointed due to RTX performance. If I'm able to save up the $, would 30x be worth buying into, or should I wait until 40x or 50x?
ancient crystal
are there 1650s that utilize extra power for cooling, for example? (and i question why this would be necessary)
oh i was scrolled up
buoyant stone
@lone pond I’m not sure. Maybe try uninstalling kombustor
buoyant stone
Drivers up to date?
lone pond
yep and I even reinstalled windows
buoyant stone
When did it start? Do you just install a program and it did it?
lone pond
it just started one day
it said Windows update scheduled on my pc
which should do nothing to it
I was in the middle of a game
and it shut off
buoyant stone
I’m not sure then. Maybe someone else here can help. Try asking your question again. Someone with more knowledge will answer
spice prawn
@lone pond i was busy in a different channel. What PSU do you have?
lone pond
corsair cx550m
spice prawn
his gpu is the same as yours?
spice prawn
what PSU does he have?
spice prawn
hmm
spice prawn
"Parents are concerned that what happened to mine will happen to his if we plug it in" <- this is nothing to worry about IF your GPU is moved to another system
spice prawn
as in, IF you take your 2070 and put it into his machine, you can test IF the gpu behaves as it should in HIS machine
no. do NOT plug something into your mainboard.
lone pond
okay
spice prawn
you, currently, dont know logically what part of your machine is potentially behaving oddly
spice prawn
yes, its safer to go the other way around imo
violet dock
i mean if its some sort of short. could damage his stuff
lone pond
well first I'm going to just swap slots
spice prawn
its not a short @violet dock
lone pond
I have a video of it doing this
violet dock
im saying in general. bad idea..nvm
lone pond
uploaded it
as you can see, my temps are fine
@spice prawn
if I just swap pcie slots, would it show
if the gpu is the problem
spice prawn
try and run the logic on what you just asked :)
violet dock
short answer no
dreamy dragonBOT
MattDaSlayer#1163 has been warned
lone pond
it's messed up
lone pond
I checked all connections, they are all secure'
so you think it's the gpu?
or
make sure your mb and it's bios has fully support for this video card and the mb bios has the latest version. make sure at least 650watt of power supply has been used. Verify the PCI-E Slot on the mb with another known working video card since the problem might be caused by the defective PCI-E Slot or defective PCI-E video card. Also, verify the MSI video card into another known working system/pc with known working PCI-E Slot as well to determine the root cause of the problem. If the MSI card is defective then please refer to our website for manufacturer warranty request for the video card: https://service.msicomputer.com/msi_user/support/rma_form.aspx
this is what MSI told me
I do not need at least 650W, they are capping
spice prawn
you could also just do what i said earlier.
instead of running around doing other things.
lone pond
and test mine in my brother's pc
spice prawn
its not like i have any experience with this or anything...
lone pond
yep
spice prawn
we cannot decide for you what you have to do
lone pond
they are gonna try to not give me a replacement
spice prawn
you are the one that has to stop running around in circles, and decide what to do.
violet dock
@lone pond honestly, you can try testing your card in his system. unless you see physical damage its unlike to harm anything
MSI's testing list is valid. such as trying another pci-e slot incase for some reason your power delivery is screwed up
spice prawn
@lone pond that is an amazing amount of words for saying nothing.
violet dock
unlikely but slots do get damaged
lone pond
Yes
trim citrus
Any news on a 3060 apparently there is an SKU That has been leaked
sacred stone
Official news? No
trim citrus
Well leaked
sacred stone
Sure, tons of new articles today. Look it up
spice prawn
@trim citrus leaks are like drops of rain, plenty of them in a downpour
they dont tell you much aside from "we get you wet"
trim citrus
Well the same guy that leaked the specs of the 30 series has leaked the 3060
lone pond
3060's, 3070 ti's 3080 ti's all probably near big navi...
raven hull
Which is more value for the money a RX 570 or a GTX 1650 Super?
lone pond
1650 super
languid flower
noice
icy cove
where to buy 3rd party 3000 series gpu? etailer?
lone pond
Umm, Newegg.com
icy cove
ya
i saw the launch dates, planning on getting a 3080
but thinking of buying one from msi or asus
not sure where they sell them, trying to get them for retail price if possible
spice prawn
what brand you want to buy does not change the place you can buy it.
icy cove
i’ll definitely check on newegg!
dawn cedar
for the first time ever i feel like founders is the way to go for cooling. still gonna wait for reviews tho
spice prawn
i am very much looking forward to seeing fullblock designs for the FE's
as in, water fullblock
dawn cedar
imagine having an open air rad on the waterblock just to fill the wedge gap
spice prawn
just place the pump there,, inline on the tubes
like that pump
could also mitigate some vibration with it being on the tube like that.
versed current
What graphics card is best for around $300
versed current
new or used?
versed current
Do u know where I should look for one?
dawn cedar
ebay will have a money back guarantee but if u check fb marketplace u can probably find it cheaper locally. if buying in cash make sure u test it before u let them go with the money
have them drop it off and plug it into gpu-z and then do a quick stress test
if all goes well u just got a super cheap 2080
trim crown
Alot of hassel for big payoff
versed current
Sick thanks for the help
dawn cedar
np
rich oasis
@frigid sapphire well zen was that great for gaming so I would
sullen linden
blazing merlin
heck around and find out
spice prawn
wait for reviews to see what they say about the new cards
burnt ermine
Totally gonna buy a 3070...
light echo
i cant wait for them 3000s
I'm the guy that's gonna buy a 2070 from someone that gets a 3000s lol
so keep me in mind whenever yall upgrade
mighty pine
Imma wait for 3080ti
lone pond
wait but didnt they get rid of the ti naming scheme?
mighty pine
They didn't say anything about ti series
But there are rumors about 3070ti and 3080ti
lone pond
mkay
mighty pine
and 3060 series rumor came out yesterday
lone pond
huh
spice prawn
there are rumous for everything, because people are willing to click on anything
sinful crater
3060 super ti OC
sacred stone
Somebody gonna mess around and say there's a 3040
lone pond
Will I bottleneck on red dead with 3070 and i59600k
I have no idea what cpu intensive games there is
green drift
I need a graphics card that isn't over $300
green drift
A 2060 really?
analog hawk
quick question do you guys think i should get FE or a card from another company for rtx 3000 been debating no clue
rapid pilot
prob FE, i dont see why not
analog hawk
only concern is lack of stock
upbeat pond
@green drift if you are comfortable shopping used you might be able to snag a 2070 super or 1080TI for about mid $300. Pretty sure the day of the nvidia news event a couple people already sold and probably becoming the trend.
but there are also rumors of a 3060 for $400 now too shrug rumors....
sweet finch
Lol
Personally I'd say the new video cards are far more powerful than what you need for gaming. A 1000 dollar setup will likely last you several years, and by that point you will have saved enough to build a better rig all together. In fact, unless you are doing video editing, cg rendering or something of the like, you can handle any game with a 1070ti.
spice prawn
depends on what you want resolution and framerate wise.
lone pond
tf is a psu
rich oasis
Power supply unit
rich oasis
in which budget
lone pond
my laptop has a 1650 which sucks
thing is i know about pcs basically and ik all the parts
ive built one
im just dumb you know
rich oasis
hei
wicked hound
FE will have a lower PL (power limit) and thus reduce OC, potentially be a fair bit if you compare to the triple 8 pin GPUs. If you are more on the high end of PCs where you go liquid cooling and flash an XOC vBIOS on the GPU to increase PL a large degree, Nvidia will also lock down flashing a lot making hard for users on FE to do that. @analog hawk
wicked hound
I mean it wasnt entirely directed at you, but you're welcome?
wicked hound
nah dont worry about it
lone pond
I thought you were taking about the gtx 1060
wicked hound
I've been blind before too
mighty pine
1060 used to be the ultimate money worth gpu when it came out
wicked hound
I wouldnt say it's "good", but rather "okay"
lone pond
basically every game
mighty pine
Even now, if you look at steam, majority of people still uses 1060
lone pond
do u think the 20 series will be cheaper now
lone pond
right
wicked hound
it already was an "okay" GPU when 1650 Super came out
lone pond
But i saw the price for a 3080
mighty pine
Used 20 series will definitely be cheaper
lone pond
and its NOT that expensive
Like the msi gaming trio 2080 super was more than a base 3080
mighty pine
But new 20 series, you gonna have hard time buying them
lone pond
Yeah
lone pond
I was thinking of getting a 20 series
wicked hound
2080S I think is semi dead (in stock)
mighty pine
What's your budget?
mighty pine
Rn, 3070 is the best budget imo
wicked hound
A used 2080Ti with a heavy OC might do very well compared to 30 series
rich oasis
Maybe in gaming but In compute it should be better
lone pond
cheaper than the 2080S again
mighty pine
Msrp wise yeah 3070 is 499
mighty pine
And according to nvidia, 3070 is faster than 2080ti
lone pond
damn
spice prawn
wait for reviews.
lone pond
just no ray tracing>
mighty pine
Yeah wait for review
wicked hound
@rich oasis it might, but a good AiB card can get 15% perf over FE, remove PL with a good cooler (liquid cooling) that's another 15%. Full on 2080Ti OC is very great
lone pond
Ill do that
mighty pine
Overall faster than 2080ti
spice prawn
@lone pond it does have raytracing
mighty pine
But wait for review and driver stability
spice prawn
all 20 and 30 series cards have it.
lone pond
thought so
mighty pine
And there are rumors about 3060 also
spice prawn
but yes, reviews are what we are all waiting for. They should be here at the 14th of september at the latest
wicked hound
If you like RT 30 series will be worth it. Rasterization (standard rendering) perf is unknown
spice prawn
until then, everything you read is just rumours (and most of them are completely baseless)
lone pond
ok
spice prawn
so ... "joy" or something :)
mighty pine
So people can decide by the 17th
rich oasis
when does nda for 3070 end?
spice prawn
we dont know
mighty pine
There is a 3080 benchmark from digital foundry that they got from nvidia
If you want, check that out
spice prawn
@mighty pine its a vendor controlled run ultimately.
wicked hound
That DF vid is kinda sketch
spice prawn
and its completely useless
and imo, its a blemish on the reputation that DF had before this.
mighty pine
Yeah so wait for actual reviews
spice prawn
because all that DF did was add more useless info to the hype train of silly that Nvidia themselves started with their stream
mighty pine
I'm gonna wait for gamersnexus
spice prawn
and yes, in case it isnt clear, i am NOT a fan of the marketing approach :)
wicked hound
not to mention it feels like that 2080 was underclocked
perf seemed.... eh from what I remember
mighty pine
Probably
spice prawn
there are SO many things wrong that i have chosen to just ignore it completely
mighty pine
Oh and also big navi is coming soon also so
spice prawn
from a tech POV this fall is looking might fine :)
wicked hound
AMD GPUs always gets so much hype then drops the ball with it. Hope they dont do that this time, but who knows
mighty pine
Ye, 2020 finally getting a bit of joy
Yeah I don't trust amd gpu
But if its good, its always better for consumers
lone pond
i really like the rtx products so unless AMD provides similar stuff to like rtx voice or to-be-coming rtx broadcast I think I'm sticking with nvidia
spice prawn
i have a habit of ending up with ATI (now AMD cards) because of habit from when multi monitor was hell on the nvidia cards
but then again, i am not much a gamer anymore either :)
green bay
hey, does anyone know when Newegg is gonna list the 3090 for pre order?
mighty pine
There's gonna be no pre-order iirc
spice prawn
do you honestly believe that all the vendors on the market will obey that?
mighty pine
Probably not, but at least on nvidia website there's gonna be no pre order
ancient crystal
imagine everyone just obeying nvidia's whims
lone pond
is xfx a good brand
green harness
lone pond
XFX Radeon RX 570 4 GB RS XXX Video Card
spice prawn
thats a solid enough card. just note that it is fairly old by now @lone pond
lone pond
ok
wind sierra
Rtx 3060 when
green harness
Likely sometime after the 3070 release which is in October
lone pond
rtx 2060 with ryzen 7 3800X or with intel core i7-8700K, or it doesnt matter
is i7-7700k with gigabyte gtx 1070 and 16gb ddr4 3200mghz ram, 1tb hdd, and a gigabyte z270p motherboard a good deal for $500
^^ and its game ready and has os installed already
hoary jasper
should i get a 1660 for my budget build
lone pond
It's holding up for me and I play some rather demanding titles
I do have pretty heavy overclock on it and use my small desk fan which I don't really use (as a desk fan) anymore to help dissipate heat
spice prawn
@cerulean rover elaborate on what you talked about in #general-chat ?
cerulean rover
hai
spice prawn
because its a mad house up there at the moment, so its easier to ask you here what you meant
cerulean rover
I was talking about announcement date in relation to release/shipping date
spice prawn
ah
that
following is just my speculation/take on it
the AMD dates have been set in stone for a long while, because they are most likely tied to the consoles in some way too
at least the RDNA2 part is
and the Zen 3 part there isnt any pressure from intel on them for that one, so... yeah
and because of the tie to the consoles, amd has, in a fashion, been idling for a bit now. Hence why i have been saying for a while now that they are stockpiling chips
another way of looking at it is this: Now that nvidia has semi committed to things, Amd has decided to make things "annoying" for nvidia with potential changes to prices etc
because IF nvidia are to stick to their official launch dates for their chips
they have to show their hand first
basically, no matter which path is true or if both are wrong. This fall is going to be interesting :)
severe basin
So who else is gonna win a new video card from Nvidia? I'm definitely gonna get win one.
lone pond
@lone pond xfx is the best brand for ati/amd if u ask me... as evga is arguably for nvidia.. they also are very cool with the RMA proccess.. ive done rma with them a few times, sent in 2 5850's and got 2 7850's back once 😄
Wow nice
yee, they had gotten dammaged from prolonged sagging... what i think did them in.. would glitch out all the time, insta pc off and blue screens.. 1 of them the fan had died a long time ago and i put a after market on ( the zalman ) when i rma'd it, i broke 1 of the memory chips taking the glued heatsink off, they still rma'd it for me.. 🙂
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solemn panther
Anyone with experience in painting cards?
hollow patio
@ancient plank 5700 xt is gonna be more powerful, 2060 super is gonna have you access to ray tracing as well as other rtx programs
if youre looking for power 5700 xt is better choice, 2060 super will give you more beautiful graphics
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hollow patio
between MSI or GIGABYTE
lost fern
I have msi 2070s
rich oasis
gigabyte on top
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dawn cedar
cool it better then
lost fern
How much money are you willing to spend on gpu?
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unkempt frigate
I have the 5700XT sapphire pulse and it runs solid for me
hollow patio
do you care about game graphics or do you want power for blender?
dawn cedar
if u just wanna play those games go 5700xt
lost fern
2060s
hollow patio
if ur doing more blender do 5700xt, 2060 super for better game graphics espically if ur gonna play newer games
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rich oasis
don't amd cards have worse compute times
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dawn cedar
@hollow patio no. 5700xt will give u better graphics. if ur talking about ray tracing, 2060 cant handle that very well
rich oasis
yes it can
hollow patio
i got 2060 and it handles ray tracing well
rich oasis
a 2060 super can
hollow patio
i havent had a problem with it
rich oasis
a 2060 not as much
lost fern
I heard complaints about 5700xt
hollow patio
i mean ray tracing adds a layer of graphics ontop of normal graphics
rich oasis
@lost fern from?
hollow patio
2060 s is best deal
lost fern
Reviews
rich oasis
no it is not
lost fern
And YouTube
rich oasis
The reviews were before drivers
the drivers at launch we really bad
amd got their act together tho
hollow patio
ay man im speaking from what i can see 2060 does ray tracing well and can handle well without problems
lost fern
Well true I honestly don’t know about it right now
hollow patio
rtx got dlss 2.0 which helped alot
rich oasis
which games are you playing with ray tracing?
hollow patio
control
wolfenstein youngblood
both did really well no overheating at high graphics with 16gb ram and ryzen 5 2600x
rich oasis
welp idk how graphically demanding those are, but I would say the 5700xt is the best choice
as it has the gaming peformance of a 2070s
But as I say if you can just wait for
hollow patio
ya if u can wait get 3070
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rich oasis
just 
hollow patio
@ancient plank if ray tracing dont matter to you do 5700xt if u dont wanna wait for 3070
west kayak
depends on what kind of games youre gonna play
if youre gonna play games like overwatch, fortnite, minecraft, ray tracing doesnt matter
fervent obsidian
3080ftw
dawn cedar
ftw3?
ruby solstice
what's the general verdict on MSI's Sea Hawk versions of GPUs?
upper mural
I have been keeping my eye on them for a while.. They where discontinued early in their life cycle so very rare. But they basiclly seem same as the EVGA Hybrid
ancient crystal
okay this needs to be said: whether ray tracing matters is completely up to what the individual wants
it is not an argument to be made
trim crown
@ancient plank be careful which custom card u get is all i got to tell you if your going with 5700xt, dont get this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwczmQNHVfo
this card was $30 off one time a month ago
its a trap
boreal sphinx
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MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti DirectX 12 GTX 1660 TI GAMING X 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
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west kayak
looks good to me
granite juniper
@trim crown they fixed the cooler for that
grave vapor
yup
trim crown
@granite juniper they did?
spice prawn
@boreal sphinx what are you multiplexing the outputs with?
grave vapor
yes
granite juniper
@trim crown yes https://www.techpowerup.com/260696/xfx-revises-rx-5700-xt-thicc-ii-cooler-offers-replacements-to-current-owners
grave vapor
the only 5700xt that i heard thats bad is the ASUS TUF 5700xt
trim crown
havnt heard about that one
granite juniper
asus isnt really held in high regard for amd cards in general
strix had an issue with mounting pressure idk if they fixed it
spice prawn
Nachos for the 57xx's yes
granite juniper
their vega cards werent great either
grave vapor
they forgot to add memory cooling to the tuf 5700xt lmaooo
spice prawn
correct. however their generation before that was Nachos.
grave vapor
and hasnt been fixed as far i know
granite juniper
true
spice prawn
and asus vega cards was not the same level of "silly" that the 57xx's
grave vapor
radeon vii
spice prawn
the VII was lovely if you had the need for what it offered.
ruby solstice
the thing about the Sea Hawk is I'm worried that no info has been released on it. the MSI Gaming X 3090 is too big for my case, and the Ventus should just barely fit. The 2080 Sea Hawk was a lot shorter than the 2080 Gaming X, but I don't know if I should wait and bank on MSI releasing a Sea Hawk 3090.
faint kindle
Just make sure the 360mm radiator can fit in your mid tower case, wouldn’t fit in mine
Should’ve checked beforehand but didn’t
@boreal sphinx ^
lost fern
I like msi brand
lethal knot
I have an msi 1080, good stuff desu
lone pond
Quick question, when it's the day that the 3090 is coming out, do you think it'll come out at midnight on the 24th?
faint kindle
I’ve heard so many different times Necro, who knows
Maybe they’re just not gonna say a time so all the sites don’t crash
I imagine I’ll wake up and itll be like “sorry all sold out :)”
brave jolt
3080 FE or AIB?
brisk flame
its all preference
if the estimated FE cooler cost is anything to go by, the low end 3080 cards could be cheaper than MSRP of the 3080 FE
but not my much
thats only speculation, of course
brisk delta
They put up some pages today but I just wish they’d tell us what time. This constant checking the internet sucks
hollow zephyr
big navi gang
unkempt frigate
Do I return my 5700XT ($420) and get a 2080 super for around the same price?
pallid sequoia
I need some guidance, should i buy a 2070 super now for 350$ or wait for the 3000 series and have the after market prices go down?
hollow zephyr
@unkempt frigate yes then return it when the new stuff comes out 
@pallid sequoia how much money you willing to spend
pallid sequoia
400, maybe 500 if i pick up a few extra shifts
hollow zephyr
that 3070 is sounding very promising rn
especially since it'll be $500
that's assuming you're able to get your hands on it
that the hardest part
pallid sequoia
yeah, but thats a ways away for me, i have no substitute for the pc, so i wouldnt have a pc
its my first build, i have a laptop rn
i have every part other than the gpu
hollow zephyr
well they'll be releasing pretty soon so i'd wait
$1200 performance for $500 is nutty
i would say you'd regret your decision but like
so much extra performance is left on the table
pallid sequoia
yeah but my power supply is only 650w so idk how that will hold up, also im not super interested in the 3070, because of how competitive it would be to get one and how well its actually been tested, i remember hearing about how there were a bunch of duds when they released the 2080ti
hollow zephyr
650 will be enough
pallid sequoia
i could wait a week and see what after market prices go down, because at that point, the 3080 will be released
hollow zephyr
yeah your psu is barely making it by but if its a good one you'll be fine
pallid sequoia
all im doing is playing apex and possibly streaming it, idk if i need that much
its 80+ bronze
hollow zephyr
ya not really
just futureproofing yourself at this point
and mine is the same kind of psu lmao
pallid sequoia
i might just go for something older now, then when the 3000 supers come out, i might upgrade
hollow zephyr
thats if those come out
pallid sequoia
but at the same time, i cant help but think that i'll be missing out
hollow zephyr
exactly
its like if you spent $500 rn on a 2080s
you could get better perf out of a 3070 for the same price
hollow zephyr
nehh
pallid sequoia
why?
hollow zephyr
if it dies on you you're out $500
like im more than sure it was kept in good condition but just a what if
pallid sequoia
:/
hollow zephyr
i just wouldnt risk it with the most expensive part
pallid sequoia
this guy on fb marketplace is selling a 2070 super that he never even put in the pc for 350
if he's telling the truth, i doubt it would die
hollow zephyr
great deal, but like i said just extra performance left on the table
its your choice really
but most would day just to wait
and deals like that are going to pop up even more when the new cards come out if you're not able to snatch one up for yourself
pallid sequoia
the thing is, is that i've been saving for a pc for 2 years and im sick of waiting, i want to get rid of this trash laptop
pallid sequoia
what did you end up with?
hollow zephyr
i had just bought it and the next month the 10 series came out
i had a gtx950 8gb 2133mhz single channel ram
and a i5-6400
but i wasnt informed at the time
but i am now
pallid sequoia
ah
hollow zephyr
i would've waited had i not had the whole summer to do nothing
pallid sequoia
got a new pc? or planning on building one?
hollow zephyr
but i had the whole summer to play so i started buying things in april
and finished in june
so i've been sitting on this 5600xt for like 3 months
pallid sequoia
i started buying the parts a few weeks ago, before the 30 lineup was announced
hollow zephyr
im just gonna buy a new card sometime early next year and put my current parts in my old rig
yeah i feel
i've been saving up for years i guess too
pallid sequoia
im glad i didnt buy a new 2070 super at the time, never thought i would be happy i didnt have money at the time XD
hollow zephyr
i could've poured at least $2,000 into a last gen pc cause i just had the mony
*money
looking back im glad
cause for like $1000 less im able to get the same or better performance
and 1440p 144hz monitors have gotten cheaper too so i've saved a good amount of money
pallid sequoia
true
hollow zephyr
and since im letting someone use my current rig i'll be upgrading their experience as well
pallid sequoia
i never understood 1440p or 4k, ive seen a 4k monitor and never really noticed anything
hollow zephyr
he can't really afford one and so it feels good to let him use it since were roomates in a big city with great internet
the resolutions all depend on distance and size
pallid sequoia
good guy kisuske helpin out the less fortunate ❤️
hollow zephyr
a very clear difference between a 1440p at 27" and 1080 at 27"
thx ❤️
ya he's my best friend and all he has is a switch
getting a lot of my friend into pc gaming actually
pallid sequoia
im selling my laptop to a friend ive known for over a decade for less than half its worth
hollow zephyr
thats good
pallid sequoia
its not enough for me and what i want to do, but its more than enough for what she wants to do
pallid sequoia
dang
hollow zephyr
then he got a switch but we doin' it big now
and i've always had more than him, but never enough to like give him a whole rig up until now
although it's outdated at least he has a computer in general
pallid sequoia
the second i saw the switch, i started saving up, took me 2 years then i got it on launch day, one of my best memories
hollow zephyr
he's only ever owned a chromebook as far as computing goes
ya my cousin had 2 for he let me buy his second one for $200
i don't play it very often
but like i have it
pallid sequoia
it doesnt have very many games with insane replay ability
pallid sequoia
but the games it does have are amazing, like botw and odyssey
hollow zephyr
im not a big single player guy
pallid sequoia
i wasnt either, but botw is 100000% worth it
hollow zephyr
yeah i've been thinking about it but im not sure
hollow zephyr
i've been trying to decide on getting digital or physical copies of games
uhh like battle royales and overwatch
mostly competitive with online mulitplayer
hollow zephyr
ya
the same case with my old pc
have a lot of stutters
but not its no problem
so im happy
and here recently i've been doing a lot more school work and going to work so i just listen to music really
so im investing in more audio gear
pallid sequoia
yeah, i have to invest in a webcam since i wont have one anymore because its built into the laptop, also maybe a better mic because i might stream
hollow zephyr
ya same here
im moving into town so i'll have better internet
so im getting an xlr mic
and a webcam later
pallid sequoia
i got an ehternet cable a little bit ago to fix lag issues, and the port on my laptop ended up being worse than my wifi
hollow zephyr
depends on what kind of cable you got
pallid sequoia
no, the port on the laptop was only like 1 gigabit
pallid sequoia
what if i got a super cheap gpu just so i could use the computer at all, then just switch it out later when the better cards come out
pallid sequoia
like a 1650 maybe, that might be a bit expensive
hollow zephyr
ya might have to go down and get a used rx570 or 580
pallid sequoia
yeh
hollow zephyr
there'd be no point in getting a cheap but almost on the verge of not worth card just for it to depreciate in a couple of weeks
and lose just that much more money lmao
not unless you find one for less than $100
hollow zephyr
W
pallid sequoia
nah, i think im gonna wait a week, or see if i can haggle down that 350 price on the 2070 super XD
hollow zephyr
yeah $300 for the next gen card would probably be equivalent to a 2070s if not woorse
*worse
pallid sequoia
ok, well I'll leave you to do hw, good talking and I appreciate the advice ❤️
hollow zephyr
good talk and no problem <33
unkempt frigate
How much is a 2070 super going for?
hollow zephyr
pretty cheap
unkempt frigate
I can’t find one for cheap 😦
hollow zephyr
pain
trim hollow
No pain No gain
unkempt frigate
And since i live on Maui nobody sells computer parts on Facebook market place .. only surfboards 😭
humble lynx
will aorus gpus will be available on newegg? 
royal root
smoky rose
no
brisk flame
goos
unborn spire
Lol can someone help with a amd driver issue
It doesn’t want to boot after drivers installed 😂
lone pond
Is 6gb if ram enough for 1080p and 1440p gaming on the 1660s?
is it good card for gaming and how many fps should i get
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 WindForce 2X OC 6GB GDDR6
Yea it's a good card but for a little more money in a bit you might be able to get one of the 30 series with a little saving
@lone pond how?
and which model for example
Damn ignored
@lone pond i cant answer im new
Well 3060 so far looks to be better than a 2080 ti and that's just the Fe for around $499
It's coming out around September 17 in America if you are in another country idk when it's coming
sharp timber
the 3070 doesnt come until october thats the $499 one
3080 is $699 and thats the only one that comes out on Sep 17th
lone pond
i can only pay 400$ for a card 😦
lone pond
so i am buying rtx 2060
ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGoOfpyp8GA&ab_channel=KARZPA
in this video
it looks soooo smoth
smooth
If you choose to save for the 3080 it will be well worth it
sharp timber
at that point if you can spend $400 but you cant do 500, find a 2080 super
that too\
what fox said
WAY more worth it than any 20 series
for just 100 more
lone pond
how rtx2080 is cheaper than rtx2060
fervent obsidian
used
lone pond
rtx2060 costs 400$
fervent obsidian
2060 is 300 usd
lone pond
in my country 400$
plucky pilot
just wait for rtx 3060
spice prawn
@lone pond polish?
plucky pilot
its like 400-500
sharp timber
good point
plucky pilot
yeah
plucky pilot
it comes out in a week