graphics-cards

[severe basin]

If you wanna save the money then the pulse and red dragon are both pretty good

But it didn't seem like a huge price difference

[granite juniper]

or spend $10 cad more and get the nitro+ cause thats one of the top cards (and looks way better than red devil :v)

[lone pond]

https://www.newegg.ca/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-100416nt-8gsr/p/N82E16814202351

this one?

[severe basin]

Yeah that one

[granite juniper]

yus

[severe basin]

I have one and it's awesome

[lone pond]

ok

whats better

[severe basin]

Kinda big but I think all 5700xt are pretty big

[lone pond]

red dragon on this one

https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?N=100007708 601341484 50001561

these are all the sapphire 5700xt cards

on newegg.ca

[granite juniper]

ive gtg sorry

[lone pond]

ok bye

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=14-202-351%2C14-202-358

between these 2

which is better

oh both these cards cant do 8k

the gigabyte card could

but whatever

i dont use 8k

[severe basin]

You have an 8k display??

Oh

[lone pond]

no

i dont

if i did

[severe basin]

I think those are the same card...

[lone pond]

i would be getting a 2080ti

they look the same

[severe basin]

Maybe they released a new revision or something

[lone pond]

but the more expensive one has a higher base speed

and max speed

but not worth the 100 bucks more

price

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=14-932-208%2C14-202-351%2C14-202-358

teh 2 nitros

the*

and the gigabyte card

oh

[severe basin]

Yeah I wouldn't pay that much difference

[lone pond]

and the more expensive nitro has a higher effective clock speed

from the 5700xt base of 14000

to 14400

brb

[severe basin]

That's not a huge difference, you could just set your clocks a bit higher in the trixx software and get the same speeds

The fans are good enough to clear a significant amount of heat if you decide you want to mess with OC.

[lone pond]

ok

[ember cairn]

I am thinking of buying a GT 1030, is it any good for the price?

[rich oasis]

@ember cairn its a pretty bad card

Whats your budget for a card

[arctic phoenix]

unless you need a cheap LP card prob a bad idea

[ember cairn]

I am looking for a card under $100

[rich oasis]

Rx570 usrd

[lone pond]

wouldn’t just a good cpu with built in graphics be better

bc a 1030 is really dog

[rich oasis]

No

A rx 570 is much better lmao

[ember cairn]

Ok, I will look into it. I have heard that an RX 570 is better but is really power hungry.

[rich oasis]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=rx570&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15 @ember cairn

[lone pond]

if you’re paying for your build i’d say just save up for a little longer like a month or two and just go big, but if you’re not then that’s chill

[ember cairn]

I am paying for the build, I have been meaning to upgrade for a while.

[rich oasis]

Whats ur current card

[ember cairn]

I have an old GT 730 built on the fermi architecture.

[lone pond]

yeah like that’s what i’m doing instead of being on a tight budget i’m just saving up for an extra month to get some great parts

[rich oasis]

Psu?

[lone pond]

wym

[rich oasis]

And cpu?

@ember cairn

[ember cairn]

I have a 290w PSU

[rich oasis]

Oof

[ember cairn]

Upgrading that too

[rich oasis]

Cpu?

[ember cairn]

CPU is Intel I5 4950

[rich oasis]

Ok pretty decent cpu

Ya a rx570 will do well

[lone pond]

my dad has a left over 2060ti super bc he accidentally ordered 2 so i’m getting a gpu for free

which is kinda chill

[ember cairn]

Ok thanks for the help, have to go.

[lone pond]

lmao JHRR

[rich oasis]

Ah yes 2060ti super

The fabled card

That legend told of

[severe basin]

For the very specific between $350 and $400 price niche.

[lapis zephyr]

@rich oasis for some reason I feel like there is a 2060 super and do they even make a 2060 ti? I don’t know a whole bunch but.... ti super makes my eye twitch ... it sounds wrong lol

[severe basin]

They don't make a 60ti

Especially not a 60 super ti

[granite juniper]

^

[lapis zephyr]

That’s what I was figuring . Thank u @severe basin

@granite juniper I had nachos for lunch thanks to u dude!

[granite juniper]

they have the 2060, 2060 tu104, 2060 super, 2070, 2070 super, 2080, 2080 super, and 2080 ti

nice i should go to our mexican place soon hm

[lapis zephyr]

Yeah I made poor people nachos

... k that sounded wrong

[lone pond]

How many poor people does that recipe call for?

[lapis zephyr]

1 can!:)

[severe basin]

man I love nachos.

heck

that's what I want for dinner

[cold stream]

ok yeah it turns out for that particular performance bracket, a 5700xt is a better deal than a 2060 super

or even a 2070

[celest wave]

i mean a 2060 super is pretty much 2070 performance

[cold stream]

what was everyone complaining about the 5700 before though, did it run too hot?

[lone pond]

no

[celest wave]

i mean the navi ones just had an especially bad time with drivers

[lone pond]

we were asking which card was better

[cold stream]

now that the drivers seem sorted out, this honestly shows great promise for AMD

as it's going neck and neck with a 2070, at a lower clock speed

[royal copper]

Ye mostly drivers and heat

[celest wave]

yeah really its only in a select few games that nvidia might win

[royal copper]

There are still the normal amd driver issues but not everyone has issue with that

[cold stream]

do you think they'll ever do a trade-in program when the 3000 series comes out

[celest wave]

yeah its just this newer stuff got pretty bad

[cold stream]

I want what will end up being the 3070 and if I could just directly trade in my current card that'd be great

[celest wave]

do trade ins like that exist with pc parts?

honestly 3000 series is soon enough for me

but i want to pair it with 4000 series ryzen, and AMD has been unusually tight lipped

so its driving me insane

[rich oasis]

@lapis zephyr i was making a joke

Because it doesn’t exist

[dusk nexus]

Will a 1060 6gb be able to run at 60hz?

[rich oasis]

Which games

[severe basin]

And what resolution

[dusk nexus]

Lol yea res would be helpful

1440p and games like risk of rain 2, darkest dungeon, poe, escape from tarkov

I'll be upgrading it soon but was looking to get my hands on the monitor now, if I have to turn down the settings alot thsts fine

[severe basin]

I think you should be able to do it on lowered settings

If you're planning to upgrade you could also OC your card to get the most out of it now

Since longevity isn't your goal necessarily

[dusk nexus]

Idk how to OC the card, ill be building a new system and passing the current one to my gf

[tawdry sorrel]

Msi afterburner

[cold stream]

from what i can tell resolutions higher than 1080p are still a bit of a meme

for anyone who doesn't want to spend more than $600 on a graphics card, that is

[clear marsh]

I need help , looking for a laptop for my son someone recommend chrome book for student and college , with space maybe icore7 or 5 . Any recommendations

[ripe elk]

@clear marsh not really meant for this channel, but dont get a chomebook. Get like an acer aspire 5

[lone pond]

Tarkov is a pain to run
Very processor intensive

[clear marsh]

Thank you 🙂 I will check it out now sorry thx

[dusk nexus]

@tawdry sorrel sorry was out, but will afterburner work with non MSI products?

[tawdry sorrel]

@dusk nexus yes it works with Nvidia cards

[dusk nexus]

Ok cool ty

[deft bone]

is a r9 290 good for running forza horizon 4

me dum

[void copper]

Which is better msi Rx 580 or Rx 570??

[sour lintel]

580

[lone pond]

running a 1660 rn but it's not enough to run good minecraft shaders at above even 30 fps, and running other games even w/ gpu overclocked is really struggling to stay above a decent framerate and I got this 1440p monitor from my friend when he upgraded. Should I try getting a 2nd hand 2080s or wait for 3000 and big navi to come out?

I think everyone here would say wait unless you need you stuff right away

guess il wait lol

[spare relic]

wait

[floral wigeon]

hello can someone help me please, I’m looking for a decent gpu around $250-$400. I’m currently looking at ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GDDR5 192-bit.

[fervent obsidian]

2060super, 2070, and rx 5700xt are all on the $400 end of that range

[floral wigeon]

okey i see thank you

[lucid thorn]

so i have an amd rx 580 graphics card and an intel i3-9100f cpu and i am getting some frame drops from time to time, do you thing that the cpu is bottlenecking the graphics card and causing the frame drops.

[celest wave]

isn't the 9100f a straight up quad core with no hyperthreading?

[spare relic]

I thought it was HT

[celest wave]

thought the 9 series intel werent

yeah no just 4 cores

what crack was intel on

[spare relic]

yeah u rite

basically a core i5 of olde

[celest wave]

ik

thank god for competition

well thank AMD

i think the problem is less that can it keep up with the gpu than it is can 4 cores keep up with anything in 2020

3100 and 3300x can keep up fine in games but theyre 8 threads

[spare relic]

it's probably fine

not great but fine

[celest wave]

think it might be the game wants more than 4 cores

[spare relic]

mayb

dang the i3-4370 out here with a 3.8GHz clock speed

[celest wave]

man remember when people said you don't need all these cores

[spare relic]

also what the hell was the i3-7360X lol

massive TDP, 4.3GHz with only two cores

[celest wave]

its was no competition intel

[spare relic]

7350K is 100MHz slower, but half the TDP

the obvious choice given only those two as choices

just browsing all the i3s that TechPowerUp has in their database for the highest end of each generation

[lone pond]

older gen intel is bruh

[spare relic]

except i7-4790 😎

i7-4790 pogger

[lucid fern]

Hello there... I have some questions... I live in the NY area and I've spotted this offers over FB, they are attractive but sketchy... I'd like to ask for your opinion and any suggestions to know if they might be fake or not

And this one....

[dawn cedar]

oh yeah thats sketchy

i sold my 2080ti a couple weeks ago for $1700. that cannot be real

[lucid fern]

I knew it

Lol

[wicked hound]

You see 2080Tis for $700 - $800 a fair few times

[lucid fern]

Thank God I didn't contacted them

[wicked hound]

seems a bit unreal, but tbh given the occasional very low ones it doesnt seem that unreal

[dawn cedar]

well if u sell a 2080ti rn for that cheap youre nuts

[lucid fern]

There are a couple of 2080ti with a price tag of 900 dollars

[wicked hound]

if you buy a $1700 2080Ti you're nuts tho

so either or

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lucid fern]

I feel you ..

[dawn cedar]

yeah well im happy to profit off the mentally disabled

[lucid fern]

Well tha is for your opinion, I appreciate your time

Lmao

[granite juniper]

kinda look likes he just copy pasted the description

[fringe igloo]

If you can't afford that, try getting a GTX1050 or a GTX1060

[orchid loom]

i sold my 2080ti a couple weeks ago for $1700. that cannot be real
@dawn cedar ummm I saw some for $700 and $800

[hushed sluice]

Is this pc good
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, A 7nm architecture , 8 core, 16 threads with a base clock speed of 3.6 Ghz and Overclocked Speeds of upto 4.4 Ghz, With default TDP of 65W and Max temp of 95°C.
Graphics card Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super, 8 Gb of VRAM and 3 Fans
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H100i RGB PLATINUM 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
ROM Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
PSU Corsair RM (2019) 750 W, 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Case Corsair iCUE 220T, RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White

[trim crown]

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/nvidias-rtx-3080-and-3090-graphics-cards-are-leaked-with-pics-and-reported-specs

These cards look so sexy

Too bad they'll be insanely expensive

I already broke the bank recently so I wont be upgrading anytime soon, Ill have to hope i get one through luck of giveaways...

[lone pond]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEgtIYeA2oQ/?igshid=18z5e7a3cafik

pcmasterrace_official

Finally! With this Asus RTX 3090, we'll finally be able to run Flight Simulator 2020 at 4k, 144, max settings!⁠
⁠
(This is obviously a joke. It's sad that I have to say it, but you'd be surprised at the amount of people who would think this is real)

Instagram

Lol

[spare relic]

;o

[trim crown]

Lol

It wouldnt fit in any case

[spare relic]

easy

[trim crown]

no pun intended

[spare relic]

no front panel

[trim crown]

.....

Might as well be open case

Cut three of those fans off and it would be more believeable

the first four fan card?

[lone pond]

nice

[torpid garden]

https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1753844-how-nvidia-neutered-rtx-2080-ti-intrusive-power-limits.html

[analog shore]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5
Can this handle dual monitors?

[arctic phoenix]

yes

but i wouldnt get it

[spare relic]

price bad

[low niche]

so i have a gtx 1050 on my laptop but i relize that minecraft runs at 20fps so i open task manger and its using my intergranted graphics to play video games not my acutal gpu how do i disable the intergrated graphics and use my real gpu

[spare relic]

Lol

Laptops be garbage like that

[low niche]

ya i dont know how to diable it

[spare relic]

There's a setting in Nvidia Control Panel to choose your preferred GPU

nah I guess not

hmm

[low niche]

ok it was on auto select

i changed it to high preformance gpu

[spare relic]

try setting the computer's power mode to high performance

[low niche]

ok

ya it didnt work

[spare relic]

welp

https://forums.tomsguide.com/threads/laptop-using-igpu-instead-of-dgpu-dedicated-and-integrated.431299/

@low niche

see if both GPUs are in that little drop down

this one too

[prime ferry]

anyone know where to buy a good used RTX 2080 ti?

[rich oasis]

Dont

Wait gor rtx3000

[spare relic]

nom nom gfuel time

[rich oasis]

Ye

[ancient crystal]

So, with the caveat that I don't have money for anything else, I am considering an RX 570/580 8GB to hold me over for the next half a year or so until I can really afford something like a 2060 KO, maybe longer? so i'm really trying to figure out if: it's worth money saving on a 570, or: the 580 is a large margin better, and also: are these cards worth buying when i have a GTX 1650?

the saving money on a 570 is also motivated by the fact that i don't particularly want to spend the extra $25 if i don't have to given that this is a GPU with a 6 month lifecycle (also)

[celest wave]

Uh idk if it's really worth grabbing the RX rn if you got a 1650

Looking at gameplay the 570 is better

But spending that money for 6 months of using it seems like a waste

If you save that money you could get something better when you are ready to buy something more expensive

By then the 3060 will probably have launched and that should be a good amount better than a 2060 (all speculation though because I don't have specs or benchmarks, just going back off trends)

[ancient crystal]

yeah, the 1650 is lacking in a lot of areas though

and, it could be more than six months. six months is speculation and could be wrong.

especially if the GPU pleases me

then i will just keep using it until it doesn't

heh

i'll mull it over based on what you said anyway, thanks

[frosty phoenix]

shall I wait for the 3000 series to released?

or not

[ancient crystal]

well

here's my take

not the take everyone here is gonna have

wait and wait and wait for new hardware and you're always waiting unless you're just on the cycle when it's just come out

[frosty phoenix]

oh ok

thank you

[ancient crystal]

the 3000 series is gonna outperform the 2000 series for sure

but at the same time, everything is about waiting and i don't really subscribe to that thought process

[frosty phoenix]

[ancient crystal]

yes, i can get a 2060 KO relatively soon

so i am definitely mulling over my decision

because a 2060 KO would be rather nice to have

i also of course must weigh it against the RX 5600 XT/RX 5700

which are both cards in the same ballpark

[upbeat shale]

would it be a good idea to get a 2070 super and use it for a little until the 3000 series drop and just sell the 2070 and replace it with a new gpu

[dense flicker]

@upbeat shale

we are a day and a half away

i think it would be best to wait

[upbeat shale]

Thank you for your guidance @dense flicker

[dense flicker]

sure

[ancient crystal]

oh well it was that close

i hope the 3060 is around $300

[lone pond]

When's the release date

[ancient crystal]

(if you can get one.)

that's not clear yet

[lone pond]

I see

[ancient crystal]

you need to watch the keynote or whatever

[lilac lodge]

I'm prtty sure they alraedy said 3060 is 399

will not be 300

[gentle plover]

aye

its bout to drop

[ancient crystal]

399, oof

too rich for my blood

i'll just enjoy paying low costs for a 2060 KO

or maybe an RX 5600 XT

i'll make sure to get one that has had a BIOS update if i get one of those

[severe basin]

399 699 999 1399

I'll be real annoyed but not shocked

[quick pawn]

2-SLI 2070s or cop out for 3070?

[rich oasis]

@quick pawn you know sli is dead and useless

And 3070 is 1 day away

And 2 2070s is 1k

[split prism]

@quick pawn a 3000 series gpu

most games dont offer support for two gpus

and it is mad useless overall

at the price of 2 2070s you can likely get a 3090

[rich oasis]

What

No lmao

2 2070s is 1k

[split prism]

yeah around 1100 1000 dollars?

[quick pawn]

If you already have a 2070 super with possible price drops in the future it’ll probably only cost me like $400-$500

[rich oasis]

A 3090 is 1200-1400

[quick pawn]

3090 is $1400

[split prism]

i think you can get a 3090 right? assuming it costs the same as a 2080s

oh rlly

scratch taht

you can get a 3080

[rich oasis]

What?

Lmao whered u here this

[split prism]

yeah for 1000 dollars you can def get a 3080

my friend lol

but just no for the double 2070

[rich oasis]

Ur friend no brakn

[split prism]

true...

[quick pawn]

Idek what the wattage for the 3000 series is

You think I’ll be fine with 850W?

[split prism]

yes

it should be fine

[rich oasis]

Yed

Yes

[split prism]

got that right, huh

[quick pawn]

Have the confirmed benchmarks /specs yet?

[rich oasis]

No

[quick pawn]

Oof

[rich oasis]

Idk why people think sli is good lmao

Is dog

[ancient crystal]

SLI lol

"let's get a gaming-targeted platform that isn't particularly good for gaming and doesn't work with many games"

[quick pawn]

My 2070 super is at a solid 34 degrees rn and can do prett much whatever I want atm under 60 degrees for 3-4 hours

Wonder how different it would be with the behemoths of the 3000 series

[woeful loom]

This isnt something i should be concerned about right?

[severe basin]

What are you playing that uses 12gb of vram

[woeful loom]

hoi 4 is i guess. But i dont have 12 gb. thats whats the most concerning here

[severe basin]

You have 8

But 150% of 8 is 12

[woeful loom]

I think it was just Radeon software

[severe basin]

Huh.

I guess I usually close that before I start playing games.

[woeful loom]

I leave it open one time and it does this

[rapid herald]

Will the 3080 need the mininum of 850 watt psu?

[arctic phoenix]

we don't know

[pine bane]

haha

Psu's gonna be dying

😦

[lone pond]

lol

[lone pond]

psu's getting yeeted left and right

[dreamy dragon]

Frous#4068 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

I'm regular

fricking bot

@mods please make f word not an insult

[rugged seal]

Just wondering what should i pair with a i7 3770k

[lone pond]

idk what you mean with that

[rugged seal]

Gpu

[lone pond]

you can use any gpu with almost any cpu

the psu is the problem most of the time

so I'd say it depends on your budget more than anything

[rugged seal]

Well i dont want to upgrade every thing

And ive got like 500 usd

[lone pond]

what is your build?

[rugged seal]

It a i7 3770k AsRock z77 oc Formula 24g ram

[lone pond]

damn

[rugged seal]

Wat

[lone pond]

I'm just researching

[rugged seal]

Oh

[lone pond]

seems like many gpus will slightly bottleneck but I think you could do with a 1660 super, I'd suggest waiting for ampere rtx 3000 series cards to drop though

that may save you some money or straight up get you a newer, better performing card

[rugged seal]

I cant

My gpu died

[lone pond]

as rtx 3060 is semi-confirmed to be $400 USD

does your pc not have integrated?

[rugged seal]

i kinda need a card this week

[lone pond]

literally the rtx 3000 cards drop this week tho

technically from today/tomorrow they should be out

[rugged seal]

So no to 2060 super

Get 1660 super

[lone pond]

probably yeah

[rugged seal]

What about 1660 ti

[lone pond]

with $500 you could get a 3060 tho

they perform about the same but if you want to get a 1660 ti it should do good

[rugged seal]

Ok

That what am probably get

[verbal stump]

The 1660ti is a great card. I used one for quite some time till I upgraded

[craggy hornet]

Might I suggest an AMD 5600XT?

[lone pond]

5600XT is also a good card

technically better than 1660ti

[unkempt frigate]

5700xt is cherry

[granite juniper]

1660 ti isnt really good value rn with 1660 super and 5600 xt

[lone pond]

^

the reason I suggested 1660 super

[lean flicker]

Tommorow

[trim crown]

5700 xt is sweet spot for me

[craggy hornet]

There is also the option of the 2060 KO

[spice prawn]

2060 and the 2060 KO are the same for games.

[craggy hornet]

Did not know this

[spice prawn]

the KO model only makes a difference for workstation related things

[craggy hornet]

But it is cheaper

[spice prawn]

sometimes yes

[arctic phoenix]

uhh he has a 3770k why are you recommending him the 2060 and the 5700xt

[lone pond]

alright gonna recommend them an older card that will get obsolete

[arctic phoenix]

all you'd need is something like a gtx 970

or 980

[trim crown]

He hasn't said anything about what hes doing with his system so its kinda up in the air still, i just popped in to say the 5700 is a good card sweet spot between longevity and performance...

If hes worried about bottlenecking than get a lower end card, if he can save for a better cpu all the better

[lone pond]

bottlenecking is not a big deal imo, the objective is to get a good gpu, not to adapt the gpu to an old cpu

[trim crown]

8 year old cpu tho...

[lone pond]

yeah

tbh to just upgrade they can pick up a ryzen 3 3100 but that'd require a new mobo

[trim crown]

Yee

[round jolt]

With the coming RTX 3000 will lower end graphics cards be getting a price decrease?

[woven phoenix]

would a 2060 be overkill for 1080p 144hz

generally

[arctic phoenix]

nah

max settings

[woven phoenix]

would 1440p 144hz be better for 2060

[rich oasis]

no

I don't think a 2060 can handle 1440p at 144fps

[lone pond]

almost no gpu is overkill for 1080p 144Hz get your facts right

[rain cave]

I run a 2060S at 1440p 144hz, I haven't seen 144fps outside of Minecraft or other games with lowered settings

[arctic phoenix]

have a 1070ti, max settings 1080p, sometimes even dips for triple A games.

honestly max settings + 1080p > low settings + 1440p

[rain cave]

I run all my games on max settings but I don't hit the 144fps on my monitor, doesn't bother me that much

[sacred stirrup]

hey everyone, are the 5700xt's still having problems with the drivers and all that?

or is it safe to buy a 5700xt these days

[arctic phoenix]

its safe now

but

wait

[sacred stirrup]

yeh i dont mind waiting, i dont have the money anyways loll, gonna take me forever to build a pc

have a case and some ram sof ar

but may i ask, why wait? and for what

[green harness]

New Nvidia cards are being announced tomorrow

Also I think it's usually best to buy everything at once if you can swing it

[arctic phoenix]

also new amd/intel chips sometime this year

i hope

[green harness]

Yeah, I am hoping to build a new PC this winter, so I've just been saving for it

[arctic phoenix]

intel 11th gen and ryzen 4th gen

[green harness]

I'm hoping to go with some combination of a new gen processor and GPU, but have to wait

[graceful quail]

soooo i have a 2070 super and this boio is running warm at 81 degrees when im playing games any recommendations to cool it down i usually have the fans set pretty high as well

[severe basin]

I set fan curves to be 100% at 70° C

If you're still seeing temps climb with 100% fans then you may want to try to reduce the power level... This will decrease performance slightly but you won't get the high temps

[graceful quail]

at 80% im seeing 75 c

roughly

[severe basin]

Well why you being stingy with the top 20%

[graceful quail]

that ~!@# loud as hell

[severe basin]

It's got to move a lot of air

If you're fine with it running that hot then go for it, that's within Nvidia's recommended operating temp I think

I don't like my stuff to get much over 70-75c which is why I ramp my fans up to be 100% at 70. I usually play with headphones on or with loud desktop speakers so the fan noise doesn't bother me much

[graceful quail]

truth well thank you

[wicked hound]

You wont notice any degradation of the lifespan at 80c tbh

No point in worrying to keep it at <70c

Other then minor perf increase from GPU boost

[royal copper]

laughs in 90C cpu

[wicked hound]

Ha, I was 100c before selling my desktop

get rekt scrub

[royal copper]

i only see my cpu reach 100c once, couldnt believe it didn't crash or throttle

[wicked hound]

Just thrashing my GPU with like 25% CPU usage got it to 100c. Mind you, it was a 520w GPU, but eh.

74c GPU, smth like 60c water temp, still lots of headroom if not terrible TIM

[mild ivy]

Hello there need some help can I just upgrade my graphics card on my ryzen 3 2300x thanks for the help

[static zinc]

@mild ivy if your psu has the right pcie cables yes

[mild ivy]

My graphics card is 1030 right now and I'm trying to upgrade to 1660 how can I find out the right psu I'm new to this pc thing thanks for your help

[trim crown]

Im surprised the 2070s gets so hawt compared to the 5700

[rich oasis]

my 2070s gets to 60c

80c is fairly hot for a 2 fan 2070s

[trim crown]

Mine hits 60° edge at 60% fan curve

Im using a gigabyte card

Three fans is ultra coool

[severe basin]

2070 is a lot smaller than 5700

More compact usually means more heat

[trim crown]

True

I thought they looked longer than they actually are

Why do i get the feeling the prices on gpus are going to stay the same, regardless of 3000 series release...?

[static zinc]

@mild ivy you need 1 6pin cable to power it is all

[severe basin]

@trim crown I think that too

I think the 30 series cards are gonna be more expensive than everyone is expecting

But also

[trim crown]

I already bought my whole system last month so too late @severe basin

Was tired of Waiting

[rich oasis]

@trim crown did you pay 1200 for that system?

[trim crown]

Around that

[rich oasis]

oof

you over paid

[trim crown]

Less than $1300

More than $1200

Maybe

Will see

I thought i got a good deal with the 3600, ram, ssd

I know i overpaid on the psu

[rich oasis]

3600 and 5700xt is 1k build after tax

[trim crown]

Welp i have 32 gb 3600 mghz ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bY9jTC

[dawn cedar]

well thats excessive

[trim crown]

Heres the list just so i dont have to say anymore

I couldve cut corners in some places but i wanted to splurge alittle

[celest wave]

Uh isn't 32 gb like a lil over 100?

That shouldn't really push 1k to 1.2+

[trim crown]

The mobo is $200

Brand new series or something

[celest wave]

I mean yeah

Why did you go for something so expensive?

I mean it looks nice

[trim crown]

Needed built in wifi and a reliable board, i was thinking about getting an x570.

[celest wave]

Seems like a lil much, but I'm a super price for performance person so that's probably it

[trim crown]

Didnt know too much about mobas at the time

[naive kelp]

Didn't they confirm the 3090 to be around 1100-1400?

idk, would be kind of a rude move if nvidia hit everyone over the head and put the 3080 and 90 at like 1400+ ea

[severe basin]

I think you'll be happy with that Sherm

I spent a little extra money buying by going with a more expensive mobo, cooler, psu, case than I needed

but I've been happier with this build than I have with other budget oriented builds I've done in the past.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jvmkhg

[trim crown]

Thanks for the vote of confidence

[severe basin]

pretty sure I only paid like $115 for that psu, but I definitely paid more for the RAM back in 2019

And i got the x52 rev 2, not the x53 but pcpapi didn't have a price for it

[trim crown]

Even if i cut down on the stuff i know i couldve lived without and if psus werent so expensive at the moment. My bill would still come to $1122

[severe basin]

yeah to me the $100-$200 on QoL and aesthetic options was absolutely worth it

who wants their system sitting in a cheap punched tin case with crap materials and junk cables inside it?

[trim crown]

My psu has rgb.... I just needed a reliable one

Too bad i never see it since its placed down against the floor....

[severe basin]

gasp

it's not on your desk where you can punch it with your mouse hand if you try to turn 270 degrees too fast?

[trim crown]

Oof no, my desk has a book case that blocks it... I probably couldve gotten a better case

[severe basin]

that might be just a me problem. But I can't have anything to the right of my mouse pad or it gets yeeted

[trim crown]

I have it to my left so no issues, I thought about getting the h500m from cooler master

Two giant 200 mm fans seems nice

[severe basin]

I like the top mount radiator option on the h500m

hate that it's missing in the p400. seems like it should be an option but they nerfed it to sell a more premium sku

[trim crown]

My issue with the case was if one of those fans broke............

Yeah i dont understand that either

[severe basin]

i feel like i'd trust phanteks QC over coolermaster

I really wanted an evolv case

[trim crown]

I got the p400 for the airflow

Not much else

[severe basin]

but I couldn't justify spending $1600+ on my build and NOT having a 2070s / 2080 in it at the time

[trim crown]

oh and the rgb...

[severe basin]

I like RGB personally.

[trim crown]

I like the grill it has, keeps dust out and looks nice

[severe basin]

I know a lot of people think it's silly, but I remember when color coordinating your build was necessary to get featured anywhere

so it's cool that all these companies made it easier for everyone.

[trim crown]

Yeah bless them for gearing us for rainbow pony puke all over my system.... kek

[balmy magnet]

so laptop GPU question: is a 1650 alright, or would you suggest spending the extra couple hundred for a 1660ti or even more for the 2060 option?

[odd rover]

I love 500 case

[ornate turret]

guys should i upgrade my 1070 to a 2070 super? i have an i7 8700k so idk how well it would go

[odd rover]

I would wake the 3000 series will be out before long

wait

[lone pond]

yea

its trw

the announcement

[odd rover]

I got the 2080super only cause i was in desperate need asap and have money set aside already for the 3080 super

Will end up giving my 2080super to my buddy for his rig

Its only 2 weeks old lmaoo

[ornate turret]

ah ok

and you dont think it would be a bottleneck?

[cloud wadi]

Hey guys I have a Radeon 390 Sapphire 8GB and the fans are not spinning and I'm not getting a display, before any of that happened the screen would go black at random times. any ideas thanks!

[dusk nexus]

Are the new gen graphics cards expected to consistently hit 1440p 144hz pretty easily for most games?

[spice prawn]

we dont know.

[green harness]

Just wait

[hollow linden]

Do you guys think there will be a price drop on the 20 series graphics card anytime soon?

[lone pond]

when the 30 series comes out it probably will

[granite juniper]

i wouldnt bet on it being large

[hollow linden]

They come out tomorrow?

[granite juniper]

annoucement

[lone pond]

^

some people predict the 20 series will drop to 200 but they're pretty crazy

[hollow linden]

I was gonna get the asus 2080 super white edition untill i saw something about the new 30 series cards coming out so i kinda just been waiting on that to see what happens

Its expensive though

[lone pond]

yeah, i'd just wait

[hollow linden]

Its been hard to wait lol im doing my first build and a little excited and nervous

[lone pond]

i wanna do my first build cause i have an old cheap prebuilt but im broke right now, plus my headset broke so i have to get that first

[hollow linden]

It will be my first ever pc, and im building it

[drowsy raft]

Guys i have a question , do i have to buy a different power supply for the new 3090 ,i already have an old Corsair 1000w

[spare relic]

Maybe

You'll have to wait for official specs

[drowsy raft]

Okay let's see

[green harness]

The rumors so far iirc refer to there being an adapter, but rumors are just rumors. Gotta wait as Maniac said

[arctic phoenix]

probably 1000w enough tho

[green harness]

Yeah, that's a lot of watts

[fading sun]

Thoughts on the ASUS TUF gaming X3 radeon rx 5700 xt directx 12 TUF 3rx5700xt-o8g-EVO-Gaming video card, figure i type it all out to prevent confusion

[ancient crystal]

to all those saying wait for 3000 series, they are gonna be at least $100 more per card due to pandemic and other reasons

it won't be the same as last year

so all i've got to say is that 3060 better be at least 30% better than the 2060

or i wouldn't really consider it worth the 30% extra

[unkempt frigate]

i guess we are gonna have to wait and see! the waiting is what's killing everyone XD

[rich oasis]

@ancient crystal wait and stop acting like you know no one does

[lone pond]

Today's the day boys

[faint kindle]

Man

I’m an idiot

Just bought a 2080 super earlier this month

Wondering when the 3000 series will actually drop, like will it be before the end of the year or

may could return it, but I’d have to go back to the 1060 I had beforehand and it definitely wasn’t the best

kinda doubt they’d take it back tho

[unkempt frigate]

thats what i might end up doing. i just got my 5700Xt card but if the 3060$ is a solid price and i can get my hands on it. might return for sure

[lone pond]

My vega 56 finally died after 3 years i think it might just be one of the capacitors/resisters does anyone know where i should started with it/any link to the standart resistance between all the possible short circuits

[ancient crystal]

Not waiting, not sorry

What we're talking about is an incremental improvement for $100 more - anyway I am not invested in AMD or nvidya, I just get the right GPU at the right time for me

[faint kindle]

The 3090 is an insane jump

But also potentially $1400 lmao

From what I’ve seen it could potentially be upwards of like 78% better than the 2080ti

Guess we’ll see how true all the rumors are later today

[ancient crystal]

yeah the costs are the thing

that's why i'm not waiting over here with all my money in hand

i can afford $300. that's it.

i can't save for months for some super high end GPU because inevitably when you're poor, there is always somewhere better for that money to go so if you want something nice for yourself you gotta buy it

it doesn't mean i'm lacking because i bought a GPU

it just means that inevitably, when you don't have much money, that happens

[spare relic]

I'm not interested in super high nd GPUs, I just want me some high quality 1080p gameplay, 1650S will get me that easy

[ancient crystal]

i'm not either

i mean i'll end up buying a sapphire pulse 5600 XT (we know about the drivers, they're better now, we also know about the BIOS thing, that's resolved now) or a 2060 KO

leaning toward the 5600 XT of course because it's a bit cheaper and they're on the same level really

i'm looking for 1080p but i mean, i also have a 144Hz display

i have yet to find something that will drive it

[spare relic]

ah

fastest display I have is 75Hz

and I'm not using it atm 🙃

[ancient crystal]

lol

i bought this 144Hz display thinking i'd get to play some older games at 144Hz

apparently it takes a lot of power to drive a display at 144Hz

and get that kind of framerate

only stuff from some years ago would have a very high framerate unless i turned it down

which i did

i turn FFXIV down so i can get that sweet 120fps

[lone pond]

Yeah best most people will be able to afford is a 3060 or 3070
And honestly how much of a jump can that be

[void copper]

which is better ASUS Radeon RX 580 or MSI Radeon RX 580? (8gb)

[lone pond]

tbh when 3000 drops wouldn't it be better to look for 2nd hand 2080supers/ti for cheaper

[lone pond]

if rx 580s go up is it better to pick up a rx 5500xt?

the XFX GTS XXX edition is basically $200 but the rx 5500xt asrock phantom gaming is also $200 with a free $60 bundle

😔

[spare relic]

why tho

1650 Super for 170 or something

[lone pond]

I don't want it

I want the 8GB as I'm not only gaming

even though it's like 10% or so better I don't really care abt it

I was getting the gigabyte rx 580 gaming oc for less than a 1650 but then they sold out

so now I'm just settling for better value

[placid flicker]

I have a 6-7 yr old gpu and i waited for the 30X0 series to drop and so far i am pretty pleased with the rumors. I really wanna see the benchmarks but i think im gonna go for the 3060 to make my entrance into the 2k 144hz realm

[ancient crystal]

3060 is gonna be a beast

i will be investing in either a 5600 XT or a 2060 KO

these are really similar GPUs

so it's not a big deal which, save a little money or see the neat ray tracing demos like quake II (a 2060 can't really do ray tracing in a game

[rich oasis]

@unkempt frigate 3070 is 500

better than 2080ti

[unkempt frigate]

That’s exactly what I was about to type haha beat me to it

[rich oasis]

pog

[unkempt frigate]

But sad thing is gotta wait another month .. pretty sure he said it comes out it October

[rich oasis]

@severe basin hahaha u were wrong

3080 is also 700

[unkempt frigate]

I’m like going back and fourth. If I should get the 3070 for $500 or spend the 700$ on the 3080

[sage elk]

3080 FTW

[unkempt frigate]

But that’s a $200 gap and might be very similar 🤷‍♂️ we won’t know till we actually try or see reviews on it

[upbeat cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRELnNBYeBc

[severe basin]

I was wrong, thought 3080 would be more and 3090 would be less

[rich oasis]

lmao the 3070 is better than 2080ti

[unkempt frigate]

And for a crazy price 🤡 they really fooled us all

[severe basin]

they must know AMD has something serious

[unkempt frigate]

AMD is watching the video shivering 🥶

[severe basin]

doubt it

[weary kayak]

ah

I see you guys saw it too

[spice prawn]

"lmao the 3070 is better than 2080ti" <- in what?

[lone pond]

Graphics carding

[trim crown]

Welp 2070 super is gonna drop $100 for sure

[spice prawn]

we currently have a graph, with no idea about what is actually being compared

[weary kayak]

3070 seems to match the 2080ti in performance at a much lower cost

yeah Naed they say its better

dunno in what way

[granite juniper]

@spice prawn it said something about 4k games w i9 and thats all

[spice prawn]

yes, which is about as useful as screaming "leeroy jenkins"

[weary kayak]

i9-10900k with rtx 3090 and 64gb ddr4

a true beast

an expensive beast

[weary kayak]

you guys have fun discussing

[unkempt frigate]

I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re going for. Matching the 2080 ti in performance at a way cheaper price. Cause from 1,200 to 700$. That’s a $500 gap

[lone pond]

10700k + 3070 baby

Nvidia bringing their A game

[spice prawn]

now, look at the current market, why would they do that @unkempt frigate ?

[rain cave]

AMD has some serious Competition now

[spice prawn]

nvidia seems to think its the other way around @rain cave

[rain cave]

they always do

[spice prawn]

no. Turing was a clear indicator that they didnt believe they had competition.

[unkempt frigate]

The current market is all over the place. Not like people can afford 2080 ti off the wide due to this pandemic. I’m pretty sure they knew this and decided their price accordingly

[granite juniper]

people can

[spice prawn]

do you actually believe that @unkempt frigate ?

[rain cave]

This is going to be a fun year for Graphics Cards

[supple holly]

very excited for AMD releases

[rain cave]

Wouldn't be surprised if they just had to adjust pricing

[unkempt frigate]

It might not exactly be the pandemic but they have to compete with the ps5 and xbox. Obviously we know that pc will always be superior but people seem to buy them anyway and so if NVIDIA can get people to switch over by providing crazy good graphics at the same price as the consoles. That’s a win for sure.

[supple holly]

im rooting for the rx 6000 series to come in swinging

[buoyant stone]

^

[rain cave]

they're going to have to

[unkempt frigate]

They better be swinging left or right or else they’re in trouble

[spice prawn]

think about the following: most of what they announced are DXR specs

guess what the next gen consoles gpu's are built towards?

[supple holly]

im hoping that my 5700 xt still can like live.. but still going to root for rx 6000

[rain cave]

I kinda hope that it doesn't, 5700XT getting destroyed would be a good thing for competition

[supple holly]

i mean... per generation it can still hold blows with 2070s

[rain cave]

5700XT still wasnt lined up with 2000 Series

that was a flagship card, couldn't even touch a 2080 ti let alone a Titan

[ancient crystal]

the AMD GPUs matched performance on a dollar by dollar basis

that was their aim

not to be the very best of the best

they couldn't do that yet

they might not be able to this time, either

[rain cave]

hopefully this year they can

[supple holly]

i know im going to get a lot of time out of this 5700 XT.... its currently being choked by a 2600

[severe basin]

and when they first released them they smashed price/performance of the nvidia cards

[ancient crystal]

i think they are less interested in that market and more in the lucrative "high-middle end" and "mid-end"

[unkempt frigate]

^

[buoyant stone]

Anyone have the release dates of the new cards?

[rain cave]

They owned that market, Nvidia had to release new cards and cut cost to compete

October for the 3070

[supple holly]

i believe 3080 is later this month

[severe basin]

I think they said the 3080 was 9/17 or something like that

[trim crown]

@severe basin im crying bro

[unkempt frigate]

Yeah ^ and the 3070 didn’t have an exact date but October

[dreamy dragon]

ShermanTank93#1026 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[trim crown]

[lone pond]

Check general chat for gpu specs

So the 3070 which most people are going to buy is getting released the latest lol

[severe basin]

we don't have a timeline on 3060, so I'm guessing they might line that up with the new consoles or early '21

[rain cave]

They didn't say anything about Ti skews yet did they?

[severe basin]

most people are going to buy the 3060/50

[lone pond]

there's no 3050 or 60

[severe basin]

yet

[lone pond]

maybe.

[severe basin]

but they'll release lower end cards

[rain cave]

IDK, im thinking the 70 is going to be the better seller

[spice prawn]

@lone pond no need to copy paste spam.

[buoyant stone]

Want your opinions. Would it be logical to buy the 3080 when it comes out?

[severe basin]

amongst the top 3-4% of gamers the 70 will sell better

[spice prawn]

thank you :)

[lone pond]

@spice prawn sorry.

[unkempt frigate]

If it doesn’t sell out @buoyant stone

[supple holly]

Feel like the 3060 might stretch low and not get much traction

[severe basin]

but most people don't have the money for that, no matter how much performance it offers

[buoyant stone]

Money for what?

[zinc robin]

So with the new Green Team GPU's, how will they affect the prices of current gpu's?

[severe basin]

a $500 gpu

[lone pond]

I might get the 3070.

[rain cave]

3070 is 100 more than 2060S for 2080 Ti performace

[severe basin]

just look any other day here, people want to know the best gpu for $300 or less

[unkempt frigate]

Well everyone’s saying that on eBay etc the 2070 etc are only $100+ 🤨

[rain cave]

are they the full card or just the shroud

[severe basin]

the majority of gamers out there don't have more than about $250-300 to spend on a GPU.

[floral sandal]

Woot 3080 only 700

:))

[zinc robin]

yea, I only have like $250 for a gpu, and am wondering if the 3000 series will increase the prices of current gpu's

[unkempt frigate]

Pretty sure they full cards. Everyone’s gonna be wanting to sell their old cards to make way for the new bad boiz In town

[rain cave]

why would they increase

[floral sandal]

I think they might lower the old one

But might as well get the 3080

Cheap price

[rain cave]

they should go down by a lot

[floral sandal]

3090 at 1400

3080 only 700

[rain cave]

that thing is massive

[floral sandal]

Including tax around 800max

[sage elk]

3080 10GB WoW 🤩

No Tax Here LOL

[floral sandal]

Lol

[rain cave]

have any board partners announced anything

[floral sandal]

Where the hell do you live lol with no tax?

[severe basin]

gainward and zotac had product image leaks

[sage elk]

@floral sandal Kuwait 😊

[severe basin]

but i think that's all we have for now

[floral sandal]

Ima using b550 for the 3080

:))

[unkempt frigate]

My tax is only 4% here in Hawaii.

[floral sandal]

Ah i see

Cali is 8something percent

💩💩

[zinc robin]

how many gb is the 3070?

[sage elk]

8GB GDDR6

[floral sandal]

8gb

3080 is 10

3070 is like 500
3080 700

[rain cave]

3090

[floral sandal]

12

[zinc robin]

ok. so I heard there is a 3060, but won't be announced until later

[rich oasis]

3070 pog

[floral sandal]

Or 16 iforgot

[rich oasis]

pog

[lone pond]

Wow 500 gb

[rain cave]

3090-9/24 3080-9/17 3070- October

[floral sandal]

So technically 3070 is 8gb with 500
3080 is 10gb 700 add another 200 to get extra 2gb lol

🤣🤣🤣

[rich oasis]

The people who use the laughing crying emojis hurt me

[royal copper]

[unkempt frigate]

So what’s the ideal build to support the new graphics card ? I don’t think my 2600 cpu and b450 mb will survive

[floral sandal]

Well im not sure but i think mine b550should be work for the 3080

[unkempt frigate]

Does that mean I gotta buy a whole new system (cpu and mother board) to support the graphics card o.O

[floral sandal]

Guess so

[spice prawn]

no

[digital edge]

This is why you never cheap out on a mobo

should've gotten an X570

[severe basin]

X570 may not have been available when he built his 2600 system

[lone pond]

if you're looking for upgrading overextending a little doesn't hurt

and can save you in the long run

[severe basin]

Also $200+ for a motherboard isn't usually something that fits in a budget build

[lone pond]

^

[digital edge]

You shouldn't be looking at 3000 series cards if ur doing a budget build

[fervent obsidian]

well 1k is a budget

2k is a budget

[floral sandal]

2300 is my budget

[fervent obsidian]

3000 series cards are affordable enough

[floral sandal]

I think i can go for the 3080

[fervent obsidian]

yeah you can easily

[lofty oar]

I think I’ll buy the 3080. Not sure if it’s going to be compatible with my Z390-A Mobo though.

[floral sandal]

I dont think z390 beable to handle it

[severe basin]

Why wouldn't a motherboard be able to handle it

[digital edge]

Power draw and transfer speeds

[unkempt frigate]

I built my cutie system like 2 years ago. Obviously I plan on upgrading but haven’t gotten to it but I was just wondering what the ideal mb would be able to handle the 3080

[severe basin]

It's a PCIe card, PCIe has been pretty standard for a couple decades at this point

[digital edge]

not to mention how heavy the new cards are, probably going to break a few cheaper pcie slots

[lofty oar]

Z390 is pcie 3 and the 30 series uses pcie 4 though

[spice prawn]

@digital edge "power draw and transfer speeds" <- that makes no logical sense.

[severe basin]

Does it use 16 lanes of PCIe 4?

[spice prawn]

we dont know.

[dawn cedar]

krem u wont break a pcie thru power draw. thats why there is supplemental power

bc it maxes out

[severe basin]

Pcie4 power is still 75w

[spice prawn]

correct @severe basin

[digital edge]

I didnt say it would break from power draw I said it would break from weight

[severe basin]

Well get a GPU holder

[digital edge]

How many of you are rocking non reinforced pcie slots

[dawn cedar]

mounting screws and brackets much?

[dawn cedar]

oof

[digital edge]

lol sick screenshot bud

[lofty oar]

Lol

[digital edge]

out of context andy

[lofty oar]

Gotem

[spice prawn]

please dont spread FUD like that

[lofty oar]

I appreciate the help. This will be my first build and I’m really looking forward to that 3080

[unkempt frigate]

That’s exactly why @spice prawn has a Champion on his tag 🏷

[severe basin]

PCIe 4 x16 would need 32 lanes of PCIe 3 to match the throughput

But the card will still work with 16 lanes of PCIe 3 I am sure of it

[spice prawn]

correct @severe basin

[dreamy dragon]

Kremkow#2994 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[severe basin]

This would be the first product on the market to use pcie4x16 as well

[spice prawn]

by "use" do you mean "need"?

[severe basin]

Well first consumer product, I don't know about special cases

[lofty oar]

That’s valuable info thanks John

[spice prawn]

because the 5700/xt was the first consumer pci-e 4.0 cards iirc

[severe basin]

Thought the AMD cards only ran at pcie4x8

[spice prawn]

that was the 5600xt

[severe basin]

Oop

[spice prawn]

and you still had to go looking (with the 5700/xt) for cases where 3.0 vs 4.0 mattered

[severe basin]

Either way, 8 lanes was all it really needed, the draw of PCIe 4 was more for reduced GPU and increased storage on PCIe

[unkempt frigate]

So what mb and cpu would be ideal to handle the 3080. Minimum? Because seems like it’s gonna take a lot to handle

[spice prawn]

yes, you could find a benchmark where there was a difference, but finding a case where it actually mattered to the performance was not something that was really done.

we dont know @unkempt frigate

[dawn cedar]

pcie gen 4 overrated

[spice prawn]

it might bring a 3600 to its knees, we simply dont know

(the above is NOT likely)

[unkempt frigate]

So I’m assuming anything above 3600 could work. But like you said nobody knows 👀

[digital edge]

How long til the Titan RTX cards fall to below $1000?

[severe basin]

I mean you can drop a 2080ti in with a celeron processor I don't see why a 3080 wouldn't work the same way

[spice prawn]

aye, it will technically work

[lone pond]

Will the cards come with the marble game

[spice prawn]

not a problem

[unkempt frigate]

It better @lone pond

[zenith saffron]

we do know

[severe basin]

If you're worried about bottlenecking then at some point you will not get much benefit from putting a better GPU with an older slower processor

[zenith saffron]

i can't send the link lol

[severe basin]

But it will still work

[unkempt frigate]

@zenith saffron coming in clutch with the link! But can’t send it.. 😔

[zenith saffron]

nvidia com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/?nvid=nv-int-gfhm-10484#cid=_nv-int-gfhm_en-us

take that, meebot

[lofty oar]

I just bought my motherboard so if I have to return it, it’s no big deal. It’d just be nice if I didn’t have to haha

[unkempt frigate]

Actually i think it has defeated you once again... because I can’t seem to copy and paste the link. It just sends me to an unknown address o.O

[lofty oar]

Gotta add the . ^

[severe basin]

Well a 10900k with a z490 board would probably take better advantage of a 3080 than a b450 with a 2600

Nvidia com

Sneaky

[unkempt frigate]

Yeah for sure. But I just don’t want to upgrade if I really really don’t have too. Or at least not yet o.o the government knows too much

[severe basin]

But a 2600 can handle high enough frame rates at 1440 and 4k to pair with a 3080 I think

1080p might be to the point where you're not seeing much performance gain over a 2080 super/ 2080ti

[lofty oar]

Maybe I need to rethink this build 😫

[ruby solstice]

anyone have thoughts on the founders edition cooling situation?

it sounds good but

[spice prawn]

we dont know

it looks interesting

but that is about as much as we know

[ruby solstice]

when do we usually get reviews?

[spice prawn]

we dont know

the tech sites i have seen talk about it, dont have a date for that yet

[severe basin]

What do you have now boho, including monitor resolution and refresh rate

[dawn cedar]

cards are usually sent to reviewers early with specific non disclosure agreements outlining when exactly they can say anything. we dont know when

[lofty oar]

Haven’t bought a monitor yet. Want to see how the build shakes out. Can I send you my build specs John?

[severe basin]

Just CPU and GPU really

But then again I guess you'd need a ~850w PSU for the 3080 and that's not a common wattage for lower end systems

[lofty oar]

Was thinking I’d do i7-9700 with the 3080

[severe basin]

I would do a i5 10600k over the i7 9700 all day

[lofty oar]

Wow really?

[severe basin]

And it would probably be cheaper

Yeah the 10600k is hyper threaded

So 6c 12t

The 9700 is 8c only, no hyper threading

Unless you currently have a z390 board or 9700 I don't see any reason to not go with the newer stuff.

[lofty oar]

I do already have the board but I just bought it. I can return it.

It’s a Z390

[ancient crystal]

HT does not substitute for actual cores: HT is fine but you should always take more hardware cores

[severe basin]

Price to performance on the 9700k never made sense to me really, since I'm sure the 10600k can perform right there with it for $100 less

[zenith saffron]

ryzen 5 3600 can take advantage of a 3070 without too much waste, ya think?

[severe basin]

I would think that would be fine yeah

But at 1080p Intel will give you more frames still, I don't think AMD ever caught them on that

[ruby solstice]

i have a 10600K w 750W PSU, apparently my estimated TDP should be around 611W with a 3090, do y'all think i need to get a 850W?

[severe basin]

750 x .8 (80+ gold certification) is 600w

[ruby solstice]

fork

[severe basin]

It might be okay

But Nvidia pretty much came out and said these cards would need 850w PSU didn't they

[lone pond]

Wait really? I thought the gold just meant it costed more power from your wall than 750w and is less efficient, but you still get 750 from the psu

[severe basin]

80% efficiency at 750w draw

Unless I have that wrong and it's 750 is 80% efficient and you're drawing 950 or whatever from the wall

Would be worth popping over to PSUs and asking or googling I guess

[green harness]

According to the wrap up thread I am looking at they recommended 750w psu for the 3090, but I didn't watch the video to confirm

[zenith saffron]

3070 is 650w; 80 and 90 are 750w according to the page I linked from nvidia's website

@green harness

[green harness]

Still will be good to see real reviews as a company's marketing may not bear out in each case

[white pebble]

According to Nvidia website, recommended PSU is 750W for both 3090 and 3080

For 3090

[granite juniper]

2080 ti was 650w so 100w increase

probably can run it decently off 550w

[lofty oar]

Can someone explain the pcie pins? For example my mobo has 2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots. Does that work?

[lone pond]

Cool so 750w should be enough for my 10700k and a 3070

[severe basin]

Should be

Just saw a picture of the Asus strix 3080 with 3 8 pin connectors... That means it could possibly draw 525w by itself

[granite juniper]

@lofty oar you mean the power connectors on that photo?

[lofty oar]

Yes

[severe basin]

So boho the PCIe power standard is 6 pin 75w, 8 pin 150w, with 75w from the motherboard slot

But the power pins have more to do with your power supply than motherboard.

[granite juniper]

thats not the pcie slots, its a cable from the psu that looks like this

a gpu just needs a single pcie slot

[lofty oar]

Oh okay!

So they’re pretty universally compatible in that regard then

[granite juniper]

yes

[severe basin]

Yep

[lofty oar]

Dope!

[severe basin]

I think it may have even said the system they got the performance graph from was a 9900k?

[lofty oar]

That makes way more sense. The wheels are turning

[severe basin]

Which would mean z390

[ruby solstice]

fuck, guess i gotta upgrade my PSU

[lofty oar]

Which is what I have. Excellent

[severe basin]

They said 750w would be okay I think @ruby solstice

[ruby solstice]

i have a z490

10600k

hm

wait that should in theory draw less than a 9900 right

[severe basin]

I would think

[ruby solstice]

although i do plan on getting a tigerlake i9 so when i do that, i'd probably have to upgrade my PSU

[severe basin]

Now that Asus strix partner card might not work.

But the Nvidia FE is designed for 2x8 pin or 375w

[ruby solstice]

in terms of AIB, is EVGA generally seen as the best?

[severe basin]

The Asus strix has 3x8 pin for possibly 525w

Best is too subjective

I will say I will only buy EVGA from now on

I bought a 2070 b-stock and it didn't work, the RMA process was so easy and simple and even though the replacement they sent didn't with either, they shipped me a 2080 super to make up for it.

[ruby solstice]

damn alright

[severe basin]

Although if EVGA comes out with a dog ugly card I would consider that highly in my decision.

[dreamy dragon]

Meepergon#1126 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ruby solstice]

wait what

[granite juniper]

lol

[severe basin]

The D word earlier

Maybe?

[lofty oar]

Than dang d word

That*

[ruby solstice]

no i typed out a message about MSI vs EVGA lol

[lone pond]

This is a christian server

[ruby solstice]

i don't even remember what i said now lol

[lone pond]

God does

[ruby solstice]

but uh

[severe basin]

I wouldn't go with MSI unless they made the absolute most gorgeous card on the market

[ruby solstice]

yeah, i have a MSI mobo and i don't want to have several programs to control my mobo/RAM lighting and GPU lighting

why's that?

[severe basin]

I dunno I don't hold them in high regard

[dusk nexus]

Yall see that GPU reveal? I wasn't even thinking about an nvidia card this time but that 3080 looks pretty sick for 700

[severe basin]

And as far as programs go, I have 5 different lightning programs