Or the ports specifically
#graphics-cards
severe basin
To me that would indicate that you blew up your GPU outputs
severe basin
If you're lucky you're fallen monitor landed on another cable and you just messed the cables up
lone pond
The monitor is a small TV
Broke the stand awhile back and it's perfectly fine
The second one is like 200 pounds so that's going no where
But yeah
I'll need to find a cheap one
dreamy dragonBOT
johnrob#9279 has been warned
lone pond
Oof
severe basin
Uh what
I dunno why that happened. I had a whole list of trouble shooting steps for you
lone pond
Honestly
I got 2 more weeks before my check
And just ask a local computer place to test my PC parts to see if they actually work
severe basin
Yeah just try your video cables in different ports including your Mobo onboard if applicable.
severe basin
What kinda CPU do you have
severe basin
Yeah there's no integrated graphics with the Ryzen chips unless you get one of the "u" branded ones I think
lone pond
Dont know about that but all I can say is it's a Ryzen 7 3400
3700*
Probably isn't, but thanks for your help
I had an idea that I short circuited the ports
Wasnt a 100% sure
severe basin
I'm not either fwiw
lone pond
What I can do is scrap a part from something and call it good as long as its 30 bucks
severe basin
But it's a possibility. Can't know for sure without troubleshooting every possibility. Try changing power outlets, testing the displays with another video source, different cables, anything
lone pond
Changed the power outlets
Tried different cables
And sadly the other monitor I have is buried and what I can say is that my PS4 works with it
Honestly this CPU is probably not even 150 USD
GPU%
All it really is, is a Geforce Nvidia 1030
severe basin
I've never heard of that happening... Blowing up the outputs by dropping a monitor. Sorry that's pretty unlucky
lone pond
I'm a little mad but not really
I expected it to last till when my next check comes in
unkempt frigate
recommendations on gpu? buget at 400$?
celest wave
2070, 2060 super and 5700xt is around that price
That's if you really need it right now
twin prairie
i have question, my rx 580 gpu fan will off if it reaches 78 degree and after getting hot it will off suddenly, do I need to replace fan or it's gpu problem?
ocean herald
I'm not sure I understand, most GPU fan's will shut off at lower temps. I don't know what the max throttle temp of a 580 is but 78c does not sound very high, though should be high enough for fan action.
Looks like the max safe operational temperature is 85-90c. (not that you want it to be that hot)... there should be fan on though... I think msi afterburner works with RX, or another tool like it might be able to look at the fan curve and you can adjust it to something better and see what's going on
boreal forge
I wish the GTX 1650 super had more than 2 dp/hdmi ports
spare relic
Fair
GPUs are pretty much expected to have like 5 aren't they
I won't need any more than 2 I don't think
maiden wraith
my rx580 has 3 dp and an hdmi
lone pond
I haven't looked int this myself, so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
But how does the 16 series stand between the 10 and 20 series?
uncut cloud
whats the cheapest and best gpu for fortnite
because i want to run 240 frames consistent
rigid crag
And "cheapest" depends on the overall budget
white sedge
Is RTX 2070 Super Good for 1080p gamer peeps
wide anvil
Yes
faint steeple
240 fps on what games tho? like CSGO?
lone pond
Microsoft flight sim(2020)
willow anvil
Im about to get that game, is it good?
lone pond
IDK.
Seems like it
Do you get to have 3 macro keyboards to actually simulate the cockpit?
acoustic ginkgo
Is it just me... or is Microsoft Flight Sim (2020) slowly turning into the modern equivalent of the old "Can it run Crysis?" from back in the day.
lone pond
lol
You only need 4 NVlink 3090 gpus
And dual Threaddripper 2
Hey, 512 gb of ddr5-4400 Ram aint that bad either
All to run a 100gig game
acoustic ginkgo
Yeah, I'm old and I remember when "Can it run Crysis" was a serious question and not a meme
mighty island
it wouldn't be safe to put something made of plastic on top of a gpu backplate right?
lone pond
depends on the plastic type
faint steeple
the real question is... can you download flight sim?
lone pond
ABS might be fine
faint steeple
Ive tried downloading flight sim twice to have it crash while downloading and lose all progress
mighty island
this little figure
probably not gonna have room to put her there after i get my 3080ti/3090
but i dont think it would be a good idea to put on top of the gpu either
i could put her in the space in front of the psu shroud but would be less visible
not sure what material is used exactly
or its temperature rating
or how hot a 3080ti/3090 backplate will get
i know aio tubing is rated to take some heat but this is probably not
sudden merlin
Is a amd radeon rx5700 xt better then rtx 2060 super?
severe basin
Most would say yes Tyrone
sudden merlin
oh ok thx
severe basin
Unless you absolutely have to have the rtx cores for Ray tracing, the 5700xt will perform better in games
severe basin
But Ray tracing isn't very good on a 2060 anyway, you really need a 2080 or higher to get good fps while using it.
sudden merlin
ok 👍
severe basin
Maybe I'm prematurely judging it against the price:performance ratio of the 30xx cards. Always seemed to me like the 20xx cards were a stepping stone
maiden wraith
I do know that on LTT's RTX minecraft video, the 2060's ray tracing capabilities were stuttery and not entirely efficient.
lone pond
Isn't that second gen ray tracing though?
Plus, you can make it ork by making some sacrifices.
magic prism
Anyone's predictions on the 20 series cards prices once the 30s are dropped and in decent supply?
lone pond
Look at what happened to the 10 series
spice prawn
@magic prism depends entirely on the price for the new parts.
as the market is right now, there is no reason for nvidia to slash prices.
and them introducing new cards, has not ever been reason enough for them to slash their own prices.
magic prism
I mean they stopped production on the 20s and the TI's gained a solid 200-800 dollar jump
(for the TI's atleast)
Im just wondering to see if I can steal a 2080 ti for not a lot and or cheaper than what they were
lone pond
Does anyone actually use a radeon vega 64?
Cause it looks like even basic cards are better
granite juniper
wdym basic cards
celest wave
Man I hope the next gen has a sizable leap in performance
lone pond
@granite juniper 1660, 5500XT, cards like that
granite juniper
vega 64 is like 1080 levels of performance, it just was kinda expensive and ran hot so not many people bought it
lone pond
Yeah, I saw. It was slow but like $600+
granite juniper
msrp was 500 on it but the mining crazy hit pretty hard+low stock so yeah prices were really messed up
unborn sedge
Is $400 good for a 2070 (non-S)?
lone pond
what is the most optimal rx 580 model from all manufacturers that doesn't pass the 180$?
and yes suncat
I also recommend you check out the rx 5700XT if you're not interesting in only graphics oriented gaming
lone pond
and streaming
unborn sedge
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4029vs4045 @lone pond idk looks to be crushing it
severe basin
I wouldn't pay $400 for a used or refurb 2070 I don't think. For a new one I guess it's an okay deal just make sure it's got a warranty or from a place with a good return policy.
lone pond
you can get a 2070 new for $400-420
also the performance is about equal
it'd be for sure better value than a 2060 super tho
shell mesa
Team red has better value gpus
lone pond
btw anyone know if XFX rx 580 is a good gpu?
spice prawn
generally, a 2060 that is above 300 needs to bring some serious value to the market
void copper
is msi rx 580 8g armor good?
woven phoenix
what does that mean? @spice prawn
spice prawn
the 2060 baseline price is 300 or below
IF you are paying more than 300 for a given model
spice prawn
it has to bring something of fairly great value to the table, for it to be a viable purchase :)
viable: as in, make sense logically from a value POV
woven phoenix
alright thanks alot sir
spice prawn
so, it is just a case of comparing things and deciding if you are okay with a given price :)
and you are very welcome
void copper
is msi rx 580 8g armor good?
spice prawn
@void copper have some patience. There is no need to repeat yourself.
unborn sedge
It's from the EVGA b-stock, with 1 year warranty. The $399 ones are gone now tho ;_; https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+20+Series+Family
Will have to get the $459 one...
rigid crag
At this point you might as well for 3000 series and get a 3060 or smth
severe basin
EVGA does price drops for midweek madness sales, and they took VERY good care of me when I ordered a refurb card that didn't work.
So despite the fact that I ended up waiting about 5 weeks and had to RMA two separate GPUs with issues, their customer service team was awesome and they more than made up for it in the end.
unborn sedge
What if I went AMD, this looks pretty good: https://www.amazon.fr/XFX-Thicc-jusquà-2025MHz-Graphique/dp/B086PZGTHZ/
unborn sedge
According to user benchmark and my possible switch to Linux in the future, that'd be a better deal than the 2070.
dawn cedar
wait a week then see
new nvidia gpus launch on the first and there will be price drops
severe basin
*we hope there will be price drops
unborn sedge
bought the 5700XT
spice prawn
@dawn cedar i absolutely would LOVE to hear how you make that statement work logically.
because currently, there is no competition for a number of their parts
why would they even think about lowering prices?
dawn cedar
if they run out of the new stuff i have no doubt they will raise the old prices back up just to suck the most money they can possibly get out if people
spice prawn
that does not answer the question
dawn cedar
they cant sell the old cards for the same as the new ones with worse performance
and they cant upcharge a ton for the new ones bc theyre scared of smd
granite juniper
who says they cant?
spice prawn
until the cards are out (from the competition) they are alone.
dawn cedar
yes but people are more aware than you think
spice prawn
you are seriously overestimating how many people are "aware"
tame iris
mhm
severe basin
I really think the new cars will be +$200 from the 20 series.
I am expecting a $700 3070
That is clearly not supposed to be a telephone number
And if the performance jump is as good as we're hearing rumors about, they'll get away with it without too much backlash
sharp imp
what is the best card for under 200$
severe basin
Probably a used 980ti
unkempt frigate
best card for a 300-400$?
unkempt frigate
nah i dont really care for rtx just want some solid performance while pounding out warzone
lone pond
then the 5600xt or 5700xt
severe basin
5700xt is pretty good for it. I had one and enjoyed it
unkempt frigate
any preferred 5700xt yall recommend since of course there's so many ?
severe basin
I had the sapphire nitro+ but it might be more than you're willing to pay
I really wanted cool RGB lights though, if you're fine without that I think the xfx thicc is a lot cheaper.
lone pond
what is the best high end gpu u can get with a i5 9600k
severe basin
Uh you could get a Titan rtx if you wanted to
severe basin
I'd say a 5700xt or a 2070 from EVGA B-stock
lone pond
ok ty
rich oasis
@severe basin
I would say stop advising people to buy this gen cards because of the price
Ing of the next gen card
severe basin
We don't know the pricing of the next gen cards
rich oasis
You are telling people to buy off rumors that you dont know are true and amd has their own cards
severe basin
If someone wants the best $300-400 then I'll tell them my opinion based on what's available
rich oasis
I doubt that nivida will launch these cards eith a 200 dollar price increase
When they have a competition that is known to give a more bang for the buck card
If you are paying 200 for the nvec
severe basin
I also doubt that they will drop the price of the 2070 super to the $300-400 price range
rich oasis
Then idk what your doing
I think the used market will
Even so
Just wait and see
Tell people to wait
severe basin
Well you can find a 1080ti in that range now and I'd recommend that over any of the options discussed so far
But lots of people don't wanna buy used, and lots of people don't want to wait
rich oasis
They are waiting like 1 month at most
severe basin
And we're assuming they will release the 3090, 3080, and 3070 at the same time but they may just bring the 90 and 80 to market
green harness
Yeah, if someone can wait a week there's very little reason not to wait at the moment
dreamy panther
how much could i sell a used 1050 ti for
severe basin
There's no limit to what you can put in it really. It's dictated more by your budget
wanton grove
So you're telling me... it can run ANYTHING.. as long as it's powerful enough to match my CPU..
severe basin
Yeah I mean you can run SLI Titan Rtx cards if you want to
It's unlikely that you would spend $5000 on GPUs with a $200 CPU though
At no point does a higher end GPU give you less performance because of the CPU you have.
You might get better performance on a 9900k than an R5 3600, but a 2080 will beat a 2070 on any CPU
wanton grove
How does an RTX 2060 Super Founder's Edition GPU sound
severe basin
I'd take a 5700xt over it unless you're sold on the Ray tracing
Or wait
I'll get scolded if I don't to you to wait for the new Nvidia cards being released soon
green harness
It likely is a good idea, if you can manage, to just wait until the announcement
So much is unknown about what is going to be released, and it'd be a shame to regret a GPU purchase so quickly
wanton grove
think the 2080 GPUs will flood the market for cheap?
severe basin
Possibly cheaper but I don't see them going under $550-650
But we really don't know
If the 3070 beats it and they sell it for $500 then we'll see the 2080 drop
merry rune
if the rumored 3090 prices are accurate, 2080ti prices won't drop much because people who want the best are gonna want to get as much return as possible
and if they're shelling out $1400 for a 3090, they aren't gonna let their 2080ti go for $500
wanton grove
what about the prices of the 2060s, or 2070s
merry rune
for those, i think it will really depend on the performance of the 3060/3070
if they're going for $400/600 respectively as per the rumors, and it's a genuine big perf gain, 2060/2070 prices will probably drop
the pricing rumors btw, are 3060 - $400, 3070 - $600, 3080 - $800, and 3090 - $1400
wanton grove
3060 for $400?
merry rune
i heard it on the latest WAN Show, but they had a link to the place that first posted it
severe basin
I think you may have to wait on the 3060 though, they don't typically release the 60 at launch
dusky jacinth
Is it true that we have to buy an extender for the 3080 graphics cards?
Or adapter*
wanton grove
how powerful are the lowest end 30 series GPUs projected to be
merry rune
that part i'm not sure, i haven't followed the 30 series stuff quite closely enough to hear anything about that
severe basin
I've heard it will be a pretty big jump in rendering performance and a huge jump in Ray tracing performance
wanton grove
how big, exactly..
wanton grove
that's quite a big jump ngl..
severe basin
Yeah 4k / 144hz is the goal I think. The new consoles are basically guaranteeing 4k 60hz so anything Nvidia and AMD release in the enthusiast area has to be able to beat them.
frigid anvil
small yoke
what is the best gpu for a 450$ budget
frigid anvil
2060 KO
granite juniper
u could have a 2070 or 5700 xt
arctic phoenix
used 1080ti 
severe basin
Also just wait for the next Nvidia release
hallow sun
arctic phoenix
2060 super
hollow linden
Is a 1080ti gpu better than a 2080 super?
rich oasis
No
junior willow
polar bronze
a 1080ti is very close to a 2070 super
severe basin
Yeah you put a 1080ti, 5700xt and 2070 super in a benchmark test and they'll trade blows all day. 1080ti might be slightly better at high resolution purely because of the 11gb.
But I would buy the cheapest of the three I could get if that's the performance level I was after.
granite juniper
1080 ti trades blows and edges out the cards but the newer cards will get closer overtime cause of optimization
severe basin
Yeah I agree there, the one I could figure out how to buy for $350-$400 is the one I'd buy
rustic pulsar
What is better, a GTX 1650, or GTX 1060?
lone pond
rustic pulsar
I got a 1060 with max q in my laptop which is nice
lone pond
gtx 1650 is a disappointment
like 10$ more and you have a much superior card with the 1650 super
livid yoke
Anyone know why my graphics card isn't working?
thin cosmos
Bois I need some help i think I’m gonna start upgrading my pc and I’m starting with my cpu and gpu, I’m thinking about getting the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core as a cpu and a AMD Radeon RED Dragon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 1 x DL as a gpu
Also idk which chat to put this in cus one is gpu and the other is cpu
Also my budget is limited and I’m not super recht
Techy*
lone pond
probably better in build chat
severe basin
So $1400 for a 3090, Nvidia expected to announce a 3080 as well
Do we think there will be a 3080ti between the two? I feel like the 3080 is gonna be $1000
Does anyone think it's possible to see $1000 3080ti and $700/$500 for 3080 and 3070?
spice prawn
looks like we are getting interesting pcb design @cerulean rover
re: pcb design: look at the top picture
cerulean rover
Oh yea, this was really interesting
a bit different than the ohio-state-flag-shaped PCB that was on the rendered leak
(their state flag if you were wondering)
cerulean rover
I'll have a look at that soon, saw it in feed yesterday, haven't watched it yet
granite juniper
were so famous nvidia shaped their pcb after our flag
cerulean rover
@spice prawn actually, is it safe to say now the max tdp possible is 375w due to what the connectors are rated for?
spice prawn
-ish
cerulean rover
And do you know what the sense pins on the 6+2pins are that aren't present on the 12pin?
spice prawn
re: pins: nope, not thought about it as such @cerulean rover
cerulean rover
(I understand the "they can push a lot more power through" part, but Nvidia shouldn't be pushing the edge of what the connectors are rated for, right?)
spice prawn
correct
the following is 100% "what if" territory
what if that 12pin is not the only one on the board
(and yes, i know what the leaked renders/mech drawings etc show)
cerulean rover
That was what I was thinking actually, do you know what the connector looking thing on the right side of the image?
Is that like SLI 2.0 kinda thing, or maybe another power connector? Or is it just not a connector and I mistaken it for one
spice prawn
<- that?
cerulean rover
Ya
spice prawn
related to power delivery in some way, but not a input
cerulean rover
I don't really look at GPU PCBs too often so I don't know anything lol
Fair enough, just looked kinda like a port
spice prawn
remember what i said a while back about being very curious about their "magic"?
cerulean rover
Yea?
spice prawn
this (the video) makes me a LOT more curious
because what they are hinting at here, is a BIG deal in pcb design
cerulean rover
I want to watch it a lot more now :(
I'll have time to watch it either when I eat lunch or my free time in like 3 hours
spice prawn
:)
granite juniper
the 12 pin is only supposed to be for the fe cards right?
cerulean rover
Theoretically
spice prawn
does not sound like that is the case Nachos.
granite juniper
hm
cerulean rover
We haven't gotten any aib PCB sneak peaks yet
spice prawn
but again, that is also me being "giddy" at the thought of interesting pcb design
a reason for that might be that nvidia is saying: tough luck aib's. You use OUR design or nothing.
and then at the same time limiting access
i fully expect this weekend to be silly levels of "silly season" in regards to rumours about all of this
cerulean rover
Yes
spice prawn
https://abload.de/img/11ljlv.png <- that is interesting
brisk flame
thats a really cool heatsink
spice prawn
if you didnt, check the video i linked earlier @brisk flame
spice prawn
so we know the "opposing sides" fan setup will be stock-ish.
question is: will it be all cards?
granite juniper
i think some aib partners will have different designs
spice prawn
the question is: does the board design allow it?
granite juniper
thats what i dont know
spice prawn
as in, is it actually remotely close to efficient
aye, me neither :) but as mentioned before, i am officially very curious now
granite juniper
as you say wait :)
but yeah this is shaping up to be a exiting launch
spice prawn
mind, the curious part of me is entirely the techie
brisk flame
what interests me are the two smaller fin stacks in the middle of the card
it doesnt seem that they get direct airflow
so i wonder if theyre there just for added heatsoak?
spice prawn
pass through from one fan to the other
keep in mind, the render might not be completely accurrate (the one that showed a something blocking things off)
brisk flame
yeah, its also hard to see whats going on in the heatsink image
granite juniper
ya
cerulean rover
@spice prawn when they talk about "more power than a pcie power connector", does it mean it supplys more power than 2x8 or more than 1x8
brisk flame
the 12 pin card comes with a 2x8pin to 12pin
so i guess they're talking about a single 8pin?
cerulean rover
I'm guessing too, but maybe somehow the 12pin standard can supply more, but just not utilized on the 30xx series?
maiden wraith
Hey, is anyone having trouble on their Radeon RX 580 graphics cards if they have them?
severe basin
2x 8 pin can pull 300w plus 75 from the slot, would be kinda nuts if they made it pull more than that
spice prawn
that is based on the other manufacturers standards
the 12pin is a custom nvidia design (it looks like at least)
severe basin
But I'm guessing the 12 pin is 6 +12v and 6 ground with the adapter combining the grounds from pins 4-8 on each of the 8 pin connectors. Could send pins 4+8 from each connector to their own "Sense" pin as well.
Sounds like it could good up someone's coordinated cable sleeving though lol
Goof up*
spice prawn
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silent wyvern
Hey
cerulean rover
Hey
frigid pasture
So... How bout them new GPUs? Big Navi anyone?
rigid crag
spare relic
Heavy spam dude
rich oasis
@frigid rune no ebegging and no one ever will
lone pond
Hey guys I have the RTX 2070 and it’s a seriously huge card. I am concerned about it sagging and damaging the PCIe slot on my Mobo. Does anyone have recommendations for a GPU brace?
spare relic
You could, temporarily, put something like a wooden dowel between the card and the case, or set the case on its side
Then research for braces
granite juniper
yeah i just have 2 legos propping mine up and it works fine
wicked hound
lego PC is great
lone pond
you can do anything with lego
spare relic
For the LDD builds
severe basin
lone pond
Thanks guys. I might use LEGO’s and then get the bracket eventually
unkempt frigate
So I just received my 5700XT sapphire pulse and it seems to be causing me more lag 👀. No clue what I’m doing wrong 🤣
dawn cedar
using amd
unkempt frigate
Everyone recommended the sapphire pulse 🤨🧐 🤦♂️
dawn cedar
^
unkempt frigate
I got a ryzen 5 2600 and for ram it’s a 2x8Gb 3000mhz
rigid crag
What type of lag is it?
unkempt frigate
Not exactly sure just when I’m tryna pound out call of duty and isn’t running to its potential
dawn cedar
u gotta be more specific
rigid crag
What kinda performance are you getting that your not happy with?
dawn cedar
i know that poor internet connection in mw translates to fps drops for some reason
if youre getting those 3 cascading orange tiles on the left side as an error code that could be due to both/either gpu stress or just internet lag
dont know why they designed it that way but thats just how it is
celest wave
Also MW and warzone are just really wonky to run
Personally I feel like I've only lost fps as new updates come out with little actually changing in the game
@unkempt frigatehave you tried following some of the fps improvement videos those actually help quite a bit
Like some settings in cod are really odd
Most games won't improve fps as fov increases
But cod does for some reason
unkempt frigate
I'm currently doing so, thank you guys for all the help. appreciate it !
celest wave
Also sometimes and drivers are just not good
AMD*
But I'd try the guides before writing off the drivers
Is cod like an outlier for you or is it most of your games
dire gate
I plan on getting a 3080 when they launch, does anyone have a guess at how fast theyll sell out? Or know how fast RTX 2080s sold out at launch?
dawn cedar
board partners are supposed to launch at the same time so it probably wont sell out super quickly
i wouldnt be worried about selling out in 2 min but id be cautious
dire gate
Alright, Thank you! Do you know if they also launched on Amazon last time?
lone pond
Is a 1650 super OC the best gpu for under $200?
spare relic
Honestly ignore factory overclocks
Unless it's like the same price as any other 1650 Super
Otherwise yeah just about, unless you want to go for RX580 or whatever
lone pond
I’m looking to run the new cod Cold War so that’s why I’m looking to upgrade my 570 8gb
Which would be the better upgrade
I have a r5 2600
spare relic
Might not be a very big upgrade
lone pond
What would you recommend?
spare relic
I'd probably save up for a 1660 Super
lone pond
I’m willing to push the budget for something worth while
How much is that card usually?
lone pond
Okay thanks!
spare relic
Looks like they're retailing for 240+ USD
lone pond
And that wouldn’t bottleneck my r5 2600 too much?
spare relic
Nah you should be good I think
There's probably people out there with a 2070S with their Ryzen 5 1600
unkempt frigate
I have the 5700XT with a r5 2600 and it’s running cod Mw smooth and juicy
unkempt frigate
I’m also debating on getting the Cold War. Been going back and forth XD
lone pond
Yeah, that 1600af is super popular, my ideal build for cod would be r5 2600, 1660 super, and 16gb ram 3000mhz any idea if that would run the new cod well? The recommended specs for Cold War are CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K or AMD Ryzen R7 1700X Processor
RAM: 12 GB
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 6GB or AMD Radeon R9 390X
Pixel Shader: 5.1
Vertex Shader: 5.1
Dedicated Video RAM: 4 GB
Is that good enough to be able to enjoy the new cod or should I upgrade some more stuff
spare relic
Sounds good to me
lone pond
Okay, thanks for the help. Is there anyway i can like leave a vouch or review for you?
novel girder
How does the amount of ram effect your graphics card?
rich oasis
@novel girder vram or system ram
rich oasis
Not at all
novel girder
What about vram?
rich oasis
Vram is the ram in the gpu
novel girder
My friend went off about how the ram should always be triple the amount the graphics card has
daring mirage
How well does a 2060 super handle ray tracing?
rich oasis
@daring mirage decent wait till rtx 3000 in like a week
@novel girder don't know what the fk hes on about
you can have a 8gb vram and 16gb of system ram and they will perfom the same in games with the same gpu and 32 gbs of system ram
daring mirage
Too bad I already got a 2060S just wondering how it will handle Ray tracing, wont even use it that much tho
rich oasis
Fine
maybe 80fps ish
someplaces in cod it struggles with ray tracing
other places its fine
unkempt frigate
So what’s the dealio with the 3060. Is it supposed to be top notch or what
lone pond
400$
replacement of 2060 super probs
or the better counterpart
and making the price of 2060 super drop
unborn sedge
Peck this is not great. I ordered a 5700XT on Amazon two days ago, and a 5600XT just arrived in the mail...
Turns out the title and all the pictures said 5700XT, but there was a "size" option that defaulted to 5600XT, and the 5700XT option was greyed out.
Gonna have fun with Amazon on the phone ig :/
lone pond
yikes
unborn sedge
Cheapest 5700XT I found is 398€, which is 94€ more than I paid for the 5600XT.
Yes, the price was surprisingly low, but it did say 5700XT the entire time I was buying it.
unborn sedge
I'm in baguette land.
lone pond
you can find some for $380 in us afaik
unborn sedge
If I go on the used market it's around that price.
lone pond
used shouldn't be too bad
unborn sedge
Just would rather have it come with warranty and stuff.
unborn sedge
tdp?
lone pond
I got the asus rog strix rx 5600 xt 6-gb recently and it’s awesome
The amd image sharpening really just makes everything look more vibrant
My friend wants a 1660s but he doesn't want to have to upgrade it once he builds it for a while should he go for the 1660s or the 1660 ti?
dusk nexus
Anyone know if a gtx 1060 6gb will be able to handle 1440p display? Planning to upgrade my system and the monitor I want just dropped 100$
sinful crater
Yes
dusk nexus
Ight cool ty, ill pick it up then
lone pond
@novel girder whats funny is hes gonna need 64GB if he gets a 3080 ti
@lone pond 2070 super when 30 series comes out
used
Hmm ight
How much u think it'll drop to?
lone pond
it's anyways good carl
the card will struggle on some games just a little and the monitor will keep up with many games decently
of course the 2060 OC
just find benchmarks
if it'd be a 1660 super vs 2060 it'd be harder to discern
6GBs of Virtual RAM
which basically affectss how much your card can store in the graphics at the moment
severe basin
I thought vram was video RAM
lone pond
the memory bandwith in the 2060 is also better
I think it's the same but idk
I'm still kinda new to the terms
wait there is????
tf
severe basin
Well it is memory modules that are on the same PCB as the graphics processor. So it's not virtual in that sense, it's physically there.
Typically more VRAM is better at handling higher resolution textures.
At 1080p 6gb is probably perfectly adequate
Frequencies and raster (cuda) cores make more difference than memory capacity at 1080p, but typically all of those things scale as you go from the low end to the high end
Meaning you won't typically see a 6gb card outperform an 8+ GB card because it also doesn't have as many cores or as fast a clock speed.
Depends on the game and settings honestly. My 2080 super won't even run horizon zero dawn at 120 fps on max.
lone pond
2060 6GB OC with some setting maybe turned down
like AA settings and such
those lag a good bunch
pfft of course it will
severe basin
I think you could easily expect at least 150-200 fps from all the competitive games on medium to high settings
CSGO, rainbow 6, overwatch, etc.
AAA games turned up to ultra will be much lower, probably hovering around 60.
lone pond
ye
severe basin
The competitive games have been optimized for years to run on very high refresh monitors, so they are super smooth
AAA games are just made to look good typically
You can probably get CSGO up over 300 fps depending on your CPU.
dark elk
What’s a good gpu for me to put in my first computer if I wanna spend 150 on one max
rich oasis
Gpu only or ehole pc
dark elk
Just gpu
rich oasis
Streaminn?
dark elk
Possibly I prob won’t tho at first so let’s go with no
rich oasis
Used rx580 for like 100 off rbay
severe basin
You can get pretty good stuff used for under $150
dark elk
Ok thanks
severe basin
First pc though, I could understand you wanting a new part.
dark elk
Imma build it but imma prob build on it more after so I’m just talking around
lone pond
if you'd have like $20 more you could get a new 1650 super, idk how are they running on the used market
severe basin
There's just not a lot of value at that price point I don't think. It's a very competitive market from $200-$300, but less so down at $150
dark elk
Ok thanks
severe basin
However I think you could find a 980, a 1060 6gb, maybe a 980ti, or an RX 580 for less than $150. Those are all pretty good cards still.
lone pond
ye
arctic phoenix
980 is prob the best you'll get at that price point
dusk nexus
@lone pond ight cool ty, I was trying to decide between that and a 27inch gigabyte 1440p 165hz but that sale ended last night. I'm gonna be upgrading my GPU when the new releases come out
lone pond
also you might not need to get a new monitor any time soon with that one 👌
glad to be helpful
dusk nexus
Yea thats the hope!
severe basin
240hz 1440p should be out in the next month or so. Looking to snag one of those
lone pond
just wait for 3060 tbh
and depends on the game
triple A games will most likely not run at 144 fps average
but competitive games yeah
woven phoenix
but the 3060 will be expensive wont it
spice prawn
we dont know.
granite juniper
woven phoenix
atleast more than 2060?
severe basin
I don't think 3060 will be available until later
But, I guess we should all really wait until at least Tuesday, because no one knows for sure
But typically Nvidia releases the 80 and the 70 then follows up with the 60, 50 and the 80ti
spice prawn
except for the times when they dont :)
severe basin
Though I think last time they released the 2080ti, 80, and 70 all at once
severe basin
That is a mess
spice prawn
launch dates are a rolling deployment
woven phoenix
what does it mean rtx 2060 came out twice
spice prawn
2 different die versions
granite juniper
is that the ko one?
woven phoenix
no idea what I'm looking at
woven phoenix
so is that better
woven phoenix
do I have to worry about which one I get?
spice prawn
depends on your workload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFRBnJdx3Y <- have a look here
that explains it much quicker than i can do here :)
granite juniper
tldr the tu104 is better at some workstation tasks
unkempt frigate
My 5700XT runs cod super smooth and juicy. But if I can get my hands on a 3060. Might return and make the switch who knows 🤷♂️
upper mural
Im just gonna let the market stabalize.. my 5700xt is a beast
lone pond
Whats the estimate price for a 3060?
severe basin
$300-$600 lol
Tbh we just don't know yet
It will be effected by what AMD brings with big Navi though, that much I do know.
lone pond
Yeah
viscid meadow
Anyone who would like to help picking out my GPU?
I know the 30 series is about to release, but I am in a bit of a rush sadly
I was thinking of going for a RX5700XT or an RTX 2070
fervent obsidian
could just get a cheaper placeholder
spice prawn
how much of a rush are you in?
fervent obsidian
a cheaper gpu to hold you over until the new ones come out
viscid meadow
how much of a rush are you in?
@spice prawn Need it for next week
spice prawn
when in next week?
viscid meadow
Thursday
spice prawn
hm, tight fit
we will know about the next gens on tuesday
so, personally, i would wait IF you can.
severe basin
Yeah just go with the 5700xt I think man. I don't think the 2070 super is gonna drop to your price range for at least a month
wicked hound
Do you need the powerful GPU on Thursday? Or can you get a very cheap RX570 to hold off until new release?
severe basin
The normal 2070 isn't as good as the 5700xt UNLESS you want mediocre ray tracing performance.
Keep in mind a $150 GPU now will take out of his total budget (probably)
viscid meadow
Keep in mind a $150 GPU now will take out of his total budget (probably)
@severe basin It would
wicked hound
Possible to get the GPU and resell it
spice prawn
hence why i suggested to wait.
viscid meadow
I could postpone an extra week (Big IF)
spice prawn
here are the reasons that makes me say wait:
We cannot predict what Nvidia are actually planning.
we cannot predict WHEN amd responds (we know they will, its just a question of when).
and we are currently into a weekend of "extra silly", because we are so very close to the announcement tuesday. SO, if there are any last minute stunts happening, it will most likely be either tomorrow (friday) or we will know about it (via rumours) IF they are coming monday
i hope the above makes sense :)
viscid meadow
But still, prices wouldn't change for say a month?
spice prawn
we dont know
and it is really hard to actually predict anything right now, because rumours are in the "moon is made of cheese" kind right now
it is, as i said above "extra silly"
spice prawn
but please keep in mind, ultimately, it is your choice :)
you are very welcome :)
i would still personally find a LOT of amusement from Nvidia announcing something completely different.
severe basin
as we get closer to the announcement the amount of "i don't know" is gonna go way up I think.
viscid meadow
The GPU prices in my country are going crazy
Cards are changing prices from $600 to $300 in days
unkempt frigate
3060$$
upbeat cloud
i mean i got a GTX 1650 for $220
rich oasis
@upbeat cloud thats very vrry bad
severe basin
not sure i'm familiar with that term
infact i'm sure that I'm NOT familiar with it.
upbeat cloud
@rich oasis how is a gtx 1650 bad? it's 1080p gaming
split prism
220 is the cheapest price you'll find for a 1660
upbeat cloud
yea
rich oasis
A 1650s
rich oasis
Is 159 usd the same as a the one u got
split prism
rlly
fervent obsidian
where are u shopping lol
split prism
im pretty sure an msi one is like 250 bucks
upbeat cloud
i used canada computers lol
split prism
where i live
wicked hound
CC isn't always bad you know
upbeat cloud
well i already have my pc done lol
spice prawn
@split prism they are not always good in canada
unkempt frigate
Use Hawaii computers
rich oasis
Yes lmao
split prism
nice
upbeat cloud
1920x1080
wicked hound
But, I would return it and buy a 1650 Super
rich oasis
And a 1650s is better than a 1650 at the same price
split prism
yeah
wicked hound
Maybe, idk if 10% restocking fee
wicked hound
They use to have that, then changed it
upbeat cloud
i didn't want to spend too much on a graphics card lol
rich oasis
You realize a better card is the same prixe
wicked hound
1650S and 1650 are basically same price
rich oasis
^
split prism
the graphics card and cpu is what you should be spending ur money on
wicked hound
See if you can return it without a restocking fee
wicked hound
Then buy a 1650S
upbeat cloud
:/
split prism
@upbeat cloud then you shouldve gotten a 1650s or 1660
wicked hound
Still could probs return it
split prism
thats gonna get all the juice outta ur cpu
upbeat cloud
eh
wicked hound
They only dislike returns for used headphones
upbeat cloud
it depends on the games you play
wicked hound
But you can make games look better, and it'll last longer without an upgrade
upbeat cloud
lol
split prism
just saying if you can return it return it and get a 1650s
upbeat cloud
¯_(ツ)_/¯
brazen sedge
hey im wondering if there will be difference between 2060 KO ultra ($330) vs ASUS DUAL GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER EVO V2 OC Edition ($410) in performance because right im seeing the ultra boost clock is higher then asus 2060s so ill like some advice if you guys can help
rich oasis
For gaming the 2060s is better
split prism
but if you're on a tighter budget get the KO
rich oasis
For work station tasks the 2060ko is better
brazen sedge
playing to light stream
and also need a card to support my monitor with dvi connection for 144hz
brazen sedge
me LOL
upbeat cloud
i just use hdmi
brazen sedge
it'll support 144hz right?
rich oasis
Maybe
split prism
not sure
brazen sedge
HMMMM
split prism
you'll have to do some research
upbeat cloud
i had to buy a hdmi splitter cause my second monitor is vga and not hdmi lol
wicked hound
It works with 1080@144
split prism
bruh
brazen sedge
so at 1080p dvi to hdmi will support 144hz correct?
split prism
no really sure
brazen sedge
well i'll just get asus card and use it as in between card until whenever 3000 Super Series from Nvidia comes out ill switch out my monitor and gpu
thanks for the help
rich oasis
@brazen sedge rtx 3000 comes out in like a week
split prism
yes
unkempt frigate
I wanna get my hands on the 3060 series
rich oasis
Someone link him the ultimate countdown
split prism
i dont think i can post links
brazen sedge
trying to remember when i get paid xd
brazen sedge
throw it at my pc LMAO
split prism
who said anything about prebuilts
upbeat cloud
lol
unkempt frigate
He’s lying to you. Spend all your money on pre builds. What could go weong
upbeat cloud
lol
lone pond
what are some good deals on rtx 2060 super or rtx 2070 supers?
bleak slate
Yes please wait 4 days
daring mirage
Does anyone have a 2060 Super? Is it a good card?
unkempt frigate
2060 or 5700Xt for gaming
woven phoenix
doenst a 5700xt outperform a normal 2060
cold stream
by a little but pretty sure they cost a smidge more as well
woven phoenix
oh yeah for sure
cold stream
yeah xt is more expensive by a significant margin
for that much you could get a 2060 super... and outperform it
spice prawn
huh? since when does the 2060S beat the 5700xt?
ah, i cannot read today :)
no, wait a sec. @cold stream where are you getting the result of the 2060S being faster than the 5700xt from ?
severe basin
Unless they meant that a 5700xt performs better than a 2060 super even though there cost the same ish
spice prawn
shrugs
severe basin
Yes
Which is why I can't see why someone would recommend a 2060 S over it, unless the 2060 was cheaper or RT was a must
celest wave
Which if you have no driver or hardware issues is quite impressive for the price
I feel like the nice AIB 2060S are more expensive than a decent 5700xt
severe basin
I got my 5700xt in November and haven't had a single issue with it, although there's a Shader in border lands 3 that made me think my card was gonna blow up
celest wave
I haven't seen the testing specifically but I assume the sapphire version is up there in quality
severe basin
For whatever reason they included weird sparkle snow artifacts as art in their shader
celest wave
They're usually the best one for radeon
severe basin
Had to find a YouTube video of people playing that part on different hardware to confirm that it was supposed to be there lol
severe basin
Yeah I've got a Sapphire Nitro+
celest wave
Sapphire is usually what I'd trust to make a decent radeon card cooler
Maybe gigabyte next
MSI has been pretty spotty for me these days
spice prawn
fun fact: Sapphire used to (dont know if it is the case anymore) be the reference card maker for ATI and later on AMD
severe basin
None of the MSI design concepts really speak to me
celest wave
Kinda like how EVGA had a thing with Nvidia?
severe basin
And haven't for quite a while, at least with GPUs. I've always kinda liked the carbon line of motherboards from them though
celest wave
Yeah idk I like that black and red cooler they had
But that was like 400series
The armor doesn't really do it for me
spice prawn
i cannot remember who is the reference card maker for nvidia, sorry.
celest wave
Well at least Nvidia is stepping up their game
In founders edition design
God you don't think the founders edition tax will return
Because of all the money they spent on the new cooler
Huh videocardz is pretty reliable right?
spice prawn
eh reliable click bait? yes
celest wave
Oh really?
spice prawn
yes
celest wave
Damn what is good now?
spice prawn
there are no "good" rumour sites
celest wave
Oof
spice prawn
IF you go round and read sites like that, the best i can offer you is this: Make up your own mind based on everything you read
spice prawn
Time will tell
celest wave
Feelsbad if 8gb 3070 is true
spice prawn
all ram tech is not equal
both amd and nvidia have patents for "interesting" stuff in regards to compression and how it can impact bandwidth and how much a given amount of ram is "worth"
if that makes sense?
celest wave
I guess but if it is true they also gave bandwidth, bus, and ram type
And for the 80 & 90 pretty much everything
spice prawn
Time will tell
celest wave
Wouldn't mind a 220w tdp on 3070 though
lone pond
How much do 545’s sell for these days
Nvidia GeForce
why is a gigabyte 5600 xt triple fan cost 270 dollars
or 280*
whats the best 5600 xt brand
lapis zephyr
Backplate and everything I seriously never though computer stuff would be sexy as hell... but this is sexy
I could of got a 2080 but... with this being my first build I mess up even this imma be heart broken
lapis zephyr
Any technology I try wait cause there’s always snags , I don’t know on comp components but technology has soon screws loose and I rather wait
Trust me I was thinking of waiting
Cause from what their saying the 3070 will be cheaper than this card and better
lapis zephyr
And their announcing the cards sept 1st not releasing them the 3090 is more than likely this month and I do not have that month
Money not month lol
fringe igloo
mine has a gtx1060 3gb
split prism
nice?
bitter jungle
2070 super is super close to 2080 (non super non ti) in performance. If you can get an overclock on a 2070 super it can easily get to 2080 performance iirc
lapis zephyr
@fringe igloo I have a 1060 6gb and been actually using this 970 ti my bro gave me out of his old comp cause it’s still a nice card that runs better than the 1060 6gb at some points
@bitter jungle yeah I’m so excited to build it this Sunday this gpu is a beast! I’ve been wanting to put the 2070 in my rig I have right now... but I’m waiting! Lol
autumn osprey
Anybody with hd 2000 graphics for competition...??
lone pond
severe basin
A lot of people saying wait on the new GPUs but I don't think we get a 3060/budget card until at least November
autumn osprey
Nope... I meant an i3 2120 with the hd 2000 graphics and 4 gb ddr3 1333 mhz ram....
Now anybody for competition
lone pond
intel uhd graphics is still garbage
lone pond
wut no
autumn osprey
Ultra low **
dreamy dragonBOT
PhoeniX#1756 has been warned
autumn osprey
😂
autumn osprey
Bri idk abou8 radeon vega graphics but on uhd 2000 the fps for lowest setting is 25 to 35 fps max
I have radeon vega 10 graphic in my laptop.... those give 75 to 80 fps on valorant high presets
autumn osprey
And 100 to 125 fps on csgo
lone pond
even more performance crush
autumn osprey
With ryzen 7 3700x
lone pond
3700x doesn't have an iGPU tho?
autumn osprey
3700 u I meant... its the notebook variant and has 3 gb igpu support
With vega 10 graphics 4 gb
arctic phoenix
damn
rich oasis
The emojis though
autumn osprey
Its good to joke on your fps and pc specs but deep inside is the pain only that I feel
@bitter bear if u want u can provide me with all the pc stuff for free... except a Hdd I carry my own hdd 
I wouldn't mind it @bitter bear
I hope u deliver stuff to india for free
😃 
rigid crag
granite juniper
asus makes terrible amd cards fyi @lone pond
lone pond
wait rly
severe basin
Nitro+ is nice but you could probably get away with a cheaper one.
lone pond
5700xt
not even the rog strix version?
i heard asus 2080 super cards are really good
granite juniper
ya even strix
granite juniper
even vega cards had issues, overpriced, bad coolers, low mounting pressure, overall arent great picks
xfx is decent
granite juniper
the gigabyte triple fan is pretty good for the price
granite juniper
yes thats a decent card, red devil is too
lone pond
i found a gigabyte card
but the reviews were pretty bad
gigabyte makes good amd cards from what I've seen
severe basin
Red devil is supposed to be good but I hate the design
lone pond
xfx I've seen has quite the complaints on the 500 series cards but haven't seen the 5000 series
there reviews weren't that great
granite juniper
a lot are from the earlier drivers from what i see
lone pond
yeah
ok
they're much better now
amazon ones are 1 star higher average review
LOL
is this card good
then
nachos
granite juniper
the gigabyte one?
severe basin
I would go with the nitro+ for $570 or the power color for $520
lone pond
ok
severe basin
Nitro+ and red devil are two of the best and are both around $570 CAD
granite juniper
yeah its a good model, if you want to save a little money red dragon is a good card