#graphics-cards

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little sleet
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just in general

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^

buoyant stone
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Should I wait for 3000 series or get a 2070 super?

merry rune
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i would wait, but if you want the 2070s, now is probably the time to get it. rumors that nvidia is halting production of the 2070, 2070s, 2080s, and 2080ti, in order to ramp up ampere production

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so supply could possibly be affected

lone pond
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@merry rune when will the 2080 come out?

merry rune
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you mean the 3080? no release date, but supposed to be this year

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my guess is late Q3

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maybe early Q4

fleet egret
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Is the Nvida geforce rtx 2080 ti better then the gtx 2080 ti?

merry rune
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there is no such thing as a 'gtx' 2080ti, there is only the rtx

buoyant stone
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😂

coarse garnet
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well, you don't usually use ray tracing anyway

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so most of the time it's actually gtx ROFLEgg

tired sparrow
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Anyone with an opinion on the EVGA 2080 super hybrid card? With half aio

foggy nymph
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Hello

drifting quarry
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Estimated RTX 3000 release date time frame? Go

granite juniper
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september

cerulean latch
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@foggy nymph yes, that card should be able to handle almost anything you could throw at it

foggy nymph
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@cerulean latch thx

unborn spire
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novemeber december may june july augest september

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idk lol just rumors for september or augest i would say black friday

dense bison
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hey my friend messed his gpu using afterburner

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this is what he said

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"I was at the msi afterburner app. then I turned every setting for overclocking to the max then the screen went white, then it went black. when I try to open my pc it gives me a black screen with a blue box. i'v had this issue before, so I just click ctrl+alt+del and it lets me in. now that I do it it just turnes black and gives me that message again"
his english isnt great

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he's got a 1070 and his drivers r up 2 date

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@ me if you know anything

royal copper
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well you shouldn't put all settings max

granite juniper
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yeah even insanely good silicon probably cant be stable just maxing out the sliders

buoyant stone
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Maybe enter safe mode and uninstall msi afterburner then try booting it? @dense bison

dense bison
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ok thnx guys

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so maxing setting can mess things up even with msi's safeguards?

buoyant stone
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Yeah

dense bison
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ok

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aight if that doesn't work i'll just tell him to go through the recommended trouble shooting steps

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oh and luckily he has an intel cpu so he's got an igpu

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so the system isnt completely useless even if the gpu is actually broken

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aight I gtg thnx

charred talon
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Does having a second monitor decrease (a lot) the GPU usage in games?

royal copper
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depends what's on the second screen, if there is nothing there should be no difference

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or perhaps very very very little, unnoticeable

charred talon
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Usually Discord, MSI Afterburner, GPU-Z and Quick CPU only

royal copper
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those shouldn't decrease performance unless they are taking a lot of cpu

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me having discord open like 24/7 i see no difference with it on my 2nd monitor

charred talon
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Hmmm then I don't understand why during gaming my GPU only has 50-75% usage

royal copper
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could be an easy to run game, could be limited by a frame cap or something. or if something like the cpu is pinned at 100% while gaming

charred talon
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Like for GTA V I have no frame cap yet it runs at average 57% usage

royal copper
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what's your specs

charred talon
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For just the GPU it's a 5700 XT and CPU is a 8700k

royal copper
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57% cpu or gpu?

charred talon
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GPU

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Like I can understand low load in AC: Odyssey because I limit the frame rate to 60 fps but it drops to 44 fps but still maintaining about 50-60% usage

royal copper
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that pair should be fine, if you feel you don't get the fps you should be getting i'd google it and see if others have the same issue, with that said gta isn't a very optimized game and has it's issues

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you don't do and underclocking/volting right?

charred talon
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Well I did undervolt not long ago, but this issue was already there when I bought the GPU

royal copper
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could always try a driver update

charred talon
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It's at the latest

royal copper
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you check that it's not overheating right? or if you lowered the temp limit and it is hitting now

charred talon
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Nope, temps are fine

royal copper
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im running out of ideas lol, it could be the game not being very optimized tho

charred talon
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Prolly. Thanks for the help anyways.

royal copper
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np, feel free to let me know if you found anything if there was an issue 🙂

charred talon
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Gotcha

wicked hound
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You'd want per core CPU usage, CPU clock speed, CPU temp, RAM usage, VRAM usage, GPU usage, GPU clockspeed, VRAM clockspeed, GPU temp, framerate, frametime

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also at like 250/500ms polling rate

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@charred talon

vital zephyr
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Aight, would the CX550 power a GTX 1070 lads

wicked hound
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most likely, depends on rest of system

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like CPU, amount of drives

charred talon
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@wicked hound I don't understand?

vital zephyr
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2 HDDs, 1 Samsung 860, Ryzen 3 3100

wicked hound
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then CX550 is fine

vital zephyr
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Sick

wicked hound
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@charred talon MSI afterburner, you want to check all of those

vital zephyr
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Thanks Hei

wicked hound
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np

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ideally would be easier to use Rivatuner

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to get that overlay on your games

charred talon
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I do check a majority of those. Per core (CPU) is about 50% - 65%. CPU is at 4.7 Ghz usually around 60-65C. Ram is around 8-9 GB. GPU usage, as said before, around 50-75%. Clock is max at 2000 Mhz with VRAM clock at 1750 Mhz. GPU is running at 57-65C. Framerate is depending on game and idk polling rate and frametime

faint steeple
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I keep task manager on my other screen in case the game decides to freeze or something stupid/cant altf4

wicked hound
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polling rate is how fast it scans for the hardware stuff. default is 1000ms which can be hard to see spikes in CPU usage. Notice that when I moved polling rate down to 500ms instead I could see per core easily stay around 80% instead of the sub 60%

lone pond
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?

rigid crag
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Paying for brand basically. The evga might have a slightly higher core clock or people might just like the way it looks better

lone pond
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Screw that

atomic gust
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and the XC has a beefier heatsing @lone pond

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and the XC is a good 2070s variant

bitter jungle
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Is it worth the extra $70 though?

atomic gust
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yeh just because of the cooling potential on it

bitter jungle
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But if founders edition cooler works fine then why get the other one

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I mean it’s got that little clock boost but that doesn’t help performance that much right?

lone pond
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can someone tell me the best driver for a 2070 super?

fallen schooner
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451.67

wicked hound
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No, it's not worth the extra $70. What is worth the extra is XOC potential. Smth like the Strix 2080Ti vs the rest of the 2080Tis due to VRM. Slap a 500w BIOS on there and don't have to worry about VRMs as much when on custom cooling. Other then XOC stuff, no card should really be worried about. Just get the cheapest okay cooler and configure the voltage/clocks/fan curve to be more efficient

pure pond
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ping me if you know please

lone pond
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How do I find a vertical mount for my card

jovial ferry
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See if your case manufacture has one for your case. Otherwise look at something like the cablemod one, which I think has pretty wide compatibility.

lone pond
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Whats the best amd gpu currently out?

bitter jungle
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Radeon VII

lone pond
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Competitive with the newer 2000 series rtx's?

bitter jungle
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not really

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Radeon VII is basically a 5700 XT with more VRAM

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It's not that good for the price if you're gaming

rigid crag
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Ya, 5700xt is a better pick for the average gamer

lone pond
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Ah. More suited to a r5 or 7?

graceful marsh
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I have a genuine question related to Newegg: Does anyone know what character this is? It can only be found on https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-11265-05-20g/p/N82E16814202362 and I'm searching the entire WEB with no luck. I'm guessing it's one of those "Boxcover Visuals" that Sapphire Tech. had created for this particular RX 580 card, but I just wanted to be sure if she's not from a game that I don't know about.

Any information is greatly appreciated!

brisk flame
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yeah, most products use fake game images so they dont have to pay royalty fees on it, its definitely fake

graceful marsh
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I see, I see.

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Thanks!

wicked hound
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Also ew. Periods on the first two "sentences" but not the last one? At least stay consistent

rigid crag
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Lol

bitter jungle
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@lone pond depends. A Ryzen 5 3600 would be better than a Ryzen 7 1700 in gaming performance, so it depends on your two CPU choices.
A Ryzen 5 3600 works great with it. A 3700x works even better.

sour lintel
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anyone running nitro rx5700xt?

hollow zephyr
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no but a sex-c card

wicked hound
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That... Might be considered to be breaking the rules @hollow zephyr

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Taken out of context can been seen as filter avoiding kinda

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More of the three letter word filter avoidance

lone pond
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@bitter jungle What about a higher tier r7? Like uhhh idk the names but the higher ones beyes Paired with a 5700XT

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Actually would a r5 bottleneck the gpu?

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For like med/heavy gaming

sour lintel
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have 8gb rx580 now just want upgrade

wicked hound
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Barely. 3600 to 3700x is like probs 3 - 8 FPS better on average

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@sour lintel used 1070/1660 Super or better. I'd say get a bit better so it isn't too close to the side grade where perf is only a little bit better. More worth your money

lone pond
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How would a 5700XT compare to like a gtx 930 or a 1660?

sour lintel
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would go rx5600 but like the 8gb memory....

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according to benchmarks... 580 is bottleneck now have m2 ssd getting OS install..

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would likely go 2060 but for those prices why not nitro rx5700xt

wary anvil
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It would be far better than the 930 and I believe is also better than the 1660

lone pond
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Compared to a 1080ti?

kind wigeon
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1080 ti... interesting card

wary anvil
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Maybe about the same as a 1080ti

kind wigeon
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it's got gr8 performance but is an older card, and tbh, I would just get a 2070... same price, better performance

lone pond
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Yeah true

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Hmm

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r5 3600 and a rx580 or similar for a micro atx?

kind wigeon
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it's weird seeing such a top notch card be at it's stage

wary anvil
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That would work great

lone pond
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That would work great
@wary anvil The r5 and rx580?

wary anvil
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Yup

desert igloo
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Hey idk if this is the proper place to ask questions but I was wondering if the 5700 XT has the proper drivers now? Last I heard was that the drivers were hurting the card

granite juniper
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yeah theyre pretty solid rn

lone pond
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Will it do it’s job well?

granite juniper
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seems decent but idk much about riser cables

torn echo
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Anyone know someone who can help with fps issues? Got a 1080ti and it drops in some games way to low, pasta changed, everything updated.

bitter jungle
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Like is it just dips every now and then or is it constant low FPS?

thick dagger
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Hello

bitter jungle
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Hi?

brisk flame
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cool

thick dagger
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the Newegg support chat told me to come in here to get assistance ,
the GPU came with 'OC BIOS' selected and it is working fine.

but, when I change it to 'SILENT BIOS', none of the monitors are working.

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is it a faulty GPU or should I change some settings in the MB BIOS?

brisk flame
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when do you change it to silent bios? is it while the system is on, or after the system is unplugged?

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is this a physical switch or no

thick dagger
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I turned off the pc and then I switched it.
it is a physical button pin

brisk flame
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does the system appear to turn on normally, aside from the monitors not displaying anything?

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like, does your keyboard and mouse light up

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do the fans spin

thick dagger
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yes, windows loads up normally (I can see the teamviewer app is online)

brisk flame
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ok

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what cpu does the system have?

thick dagger
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3900x

brisk flame
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ok, with the system powered on with the gpu set to silent bios, unplug all display cables from the gpu, plug in only one DP monitor, then power the system down

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then start it back up with only the one DP cable plugged in

thick dagger
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ok, will try that

brisk flame
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if that doesnt work, then i dont really know what the issue could be. the silent bios is working properly if windows is able to boot, so just run the card using the oc bios and change the fan curves to what you want them to be

thick dagger
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thanks for trying, nothing helps...
also tried to connect the GPU to another machine, results are the same

rapid herald
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am i gonna have to buy a whole new psu for the new 3000series GPU like im hearing?

static zinc
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nah

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as long as its got enough power and the correct pcie cables youre fine

rapid herald
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so basically the ones that come with the power supply?

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and i have a 750watt

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80+gold

static zinc
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thats fine

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i assume you are refering to the 12pin cable that was shown a few days ago?

rapid herald
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Yeah. Those come with the PSUs right?

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12pin

shadow veldt
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so i am having a problem trying to replace my gpu i have watched videos and do what is says but it won’t come out and was wondering if someone could help and walk me through it

bitter jungle
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It’s quite simple

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You might be over complicating it

shadow veldt
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i know the vids r like 1 min long and seems simple but idk

bitter jungle
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You just unscrew the old one, pull it out, put the new one in, attach power connectors if needed, then download drivers

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I’ll record a vid of me doing it if you want

shadow veldt
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i unscrew the undo the latch thing and then it won’t come out there seems to be something in back top left corner of it that is holding it in

bitter jungle
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Wdym

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Elaborate on that

shadow veldt
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so there is a tiny tiny little screw like on the top backside of the gpu that seems to be locking but no vids had to and it is in like the worst spot and impossible to unscrew

bitter jungle
shadow veldt
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no

bitter jungle
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Those are the only ones you need to unscrew

shadow veldt
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i would take pic if i knew how

bitter jungle
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Top backside of the gpu ThinkingEgg

shadow veldt
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how to i put pic on here

buoyant stone
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On phone or are you on pc @shadow veldt

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?

shadow veldt
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on my phone

bitter jungle
shadow veldt
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yes on the top but left

bitter jungle
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You can’t post pics in here unless you’re level 3. You can DM them to me and I’ll post them if you want

buoyant stone
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Ahh that true

shadow veldt
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it sounds wierd but can i screen share for u on a call @bitter jungle

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to show u

bitter jungle
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Just DM me a pic

shadow veldt
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j

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ok

shadow veldt
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it’s that small screw in left

bitter jungle
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That shouldn’t be holding the GPU down. That’s connected to the GPUs backplate

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But the PCIe slot might be holding it down

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There might be something like this holding it in place. You have to move it to get the GPU out

shadow veldt
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i sent more photos

bitter jungle
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Problem solved in DMs

buoyant stone
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What was it?

bitter jungle
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Some other screws on the case basically

royal root
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hey do u guys reccommend a ryzen or nvidia card for the $300 price range

split lichen
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Looking for a gpu to pair with a Ryzen 5 2600. Kinda rushed to get my gpu because I was on a budget. Currently I have a 570.

rigid crag
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whats your budget? @split lichen

split lichen
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Nothing extremely expensive but I wouldn’t want to spend more than 300

rigid crag
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Just gaming? Or are you planning on streaming too

split lichen
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Just gaming

sour lintel
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5600xt

hollow zephyr
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^^^

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Or 1660S

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@royal root you streaming or just gaming

pure pond
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How much do you think a RTX 2070 would loose price in like a year or two

hexed forge
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not much probably

bitter jungle
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@royal root Ryzen is CPU, not GPU. Radeon is GPU just by the way.
Anyways for $300 you can get an RX 5600 XT on AMD’s side, or you can get a GTX 1660 super or possibly an RTX 2060 ko on Nvidia’s side. I believe 5600 XT has better pure performance in gaming, but if you want to do anything other than gaming like live-streaming or video editing then Nvidia is the way to go

hexed forge
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if i recall, theres a rumor that production on the 2000 series is about to stop which will apparently cause a slight increase in price at least until the 3000 series comes out. not sure how true the production rumors are tho

acoustic ginkgo
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I doubt Nvidia is going to cease production on the entire 2000 line before the entire 3000 line is out. I could see them ending production of the non-Supers, might even kill the 2080 Super and 2080ti once the high end 3000 cards roll out (because apparently those are releasing first).

hollow zephyr
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yeah i heard the same thing about them stopping for 2000 series cards

acoustic ginkgo
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Of course, it's a rumor. This is the time when the bullcrap rumors spread fast.

static zinc
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classic pebkac issue

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so do yall think the nvidia 3000 series cards will all use that double sides fan design

wary anvil
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No

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Almost definitely not

lone pond
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^ like our buddy here says, it's simply illogical to use those on the lower heat producing cards (aka the 3070s) and below

royal root
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@royal root Ryzen is CPU, not GPU. Radeon is GPU just by the way.
Anyways for $300 you can get an RX 5600 XT on AMD’s side, or you can get a GTX 1660 super or possibly an RTX 2060 ko on Nvidia’s side. I believe 5600 XT has better pure performance in gaming, but if you want to do anything other than gaming like live-streaming or video editing then Nvidia is the way to go
@bitter jungle Thank you Radeon is the right one

static zinc
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Im just hoping theres a design that works for sff cases, ive got a few applications that will use as much processing as i can throw at them

velvet stirrup
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Anyone around who could help me with some GPU advice?

hollow zephyr
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@velvet stirrup what you need

wet pebble
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should i get the rx 5700xt, 2060s, or 2070s?

tired sparrow
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If you want to spend another hundred dollars essentially for ray tracing and 5 frames go 2070s because that's the best card there.

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If you don't really care about ray tracing. Go 5700xt because the drivers are great now and it's the best price for performance

lone pond
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the ray tracing is okay @velvet stirrup but i recommend the 5700xt and just save up for the rtx 3000s because the ray tracing is not too good on current rtx cards

hollow zephyr
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^^

bitter jungle
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Can you undervolt Nvidia 600 series cards? If so, how?

lyric forge
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@wet pebble like Mav said the 2070s is the best card there, but it depends if you’re going for just gaming, or if you want ray tracing and the ability to stream and edit. The 5700xt is your best bet for just gaming, but for anything else and another 100 bucks I’d go with the 2070s or even just the 2070

wet pebble
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are you guys sure about the drivers

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i might just go 2060s

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because it will be risk free

rigid crag
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Drivers are pretty solid rn, shouldn't have any issues

sonic mural
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I have a 5700xt and it's worked flawless for me

limber summit
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good graphics card for 90 hit me

wary anvil
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90 USD?

limber summit
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yes

wary anvil
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Define "Good"

limber summit
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can run gta or Warzone at least 60 fps at 720 or low 1080p

wary anvil
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What CPU do you have?

limber summit
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ryzen 3 1200

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and its overclocked

wary anvil
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How much over 90 can you go?

limber summit
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about 30 bucks

wary anvil
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Okay

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120 will be a lot more doable than 90

limber summit
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lol itll just take me a few weeks to get

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thats why i said 90

wary anvil
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How do you feel about buying used?

limber summit
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i dont really care

wary anvil
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Cool

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Gonna be buying used then 🙂

limber summit
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as long as the graphics card doesnt need to be flashed forgot what that means or has unreliable drivers

wary anvil
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You should be able to find a used rx 570 for around that price

limber summit
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is the rx570 better than the gtx 1050 ?

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by any chance

wary anvil
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I believe so, let me check some specs

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Is the 1050 what you have now?

limber summit
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yeah

wary anvil
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Normal or ti?

limber summit
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normal 2 gb

wary anvil
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Okay

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Are you planning on selling it with the update?

limber summit
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what do you mean by update

wary anvil
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You're getting a new GPU

limber summit
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oh yeah

wary anvil
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Looks like an expected perforance increase of 50 to 75%

limber summit
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thats signifcant

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the rx570 is a 4gb right??

wary anvil
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There's a 4GB and an 8GB option

limber summit
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oh okay thanks for the informatioon

wary anvil
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np

lone pond
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im looking for a new gpu for overwatch pc version. i have an i5 6500 and 16 gigs corsair dominator memory. maybe $200 $300 price range? i currently have a
MSI GAMING GTX 970 GAMING

bitter jungle
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I'd say upgrade CPU first probably

lone pond
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ok ty

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i run overwatch on competition low settings im getting 300 fps now....

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render scale 75%

bitter jungle
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I don't think you need any more than that, especialy if you only have a 60-165Hz monitor

lone pond
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massive fps boost

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ok

bitter jungle
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up render scale a bit, I think it'll look better and you don't need over 144 fps anyways imo

lone pond
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ok

bitter jungle
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What's ur monitor's refresh rate? @lone pond

lone pond
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i believe its at 60mz right now

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hz*

bitter jungle
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Then you'll only be able to see 60 fps

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you can't see anything over that becuase your monitor limits it

lone pond
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i understand that, but higher anyways could get me an edge in a 1 on 1 dual in the game?

bitter jungle
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Technically yes

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But still, 300 fps isn't worth it for the game's image quality you're sacrificing if you ask me

lone pond
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ok ok , i have vsync off

bitter jungle
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okay...?

lone pond
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oh nm

bitter jungle
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Yeah lol if Vsync was on you wouldn't go over 60 fps anyways :P

lone pond
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correct, hehehe

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i want to drop in a gpu without upgrading i5 6500, can only afford gpu right now

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or should i jus leave it for another year?

bitter jungle
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Upgrading motherboard + CPU to a newer Ryzen (Like a 3600 or 3100 or 3300X or something) can fit into your budget

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Cheap B450+ Ryzen 3600 is only like $250

lone pond
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hmmm i have not been amd since the ole amd rules the nest days, they made big comeback, would be big makeover for me

wicked hound
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the server isnt running at 300Hz. maybe 128Hz if you're lucky

lone pond
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interesting

bitter jungle
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GTX 970 still is a pretty good mid range card

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But your CPU is gonna start showing it's age

lone pond
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ok its very nice its an msi gaming series gtx 970, nice nice

wicked hound
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You'll notice input response time differences until like 120Hz on a 60Hz panel

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beyond that, no real need for extra FPS until you get a monitor upgrade

lone pond
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ok ty, thats a big one also,

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i knew a little bout that, need to keep that in mind bigtime

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welp i guess i will be getting a monitor first.......let the hunting begin........

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afk be back at 8pm est

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im shocked the 6500 is outdated, i thought it was still good muscle....

wicked hound
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well, low core/thread count and meh per core performance

wet pebble
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sapphire nitro+ or 2070s?

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which ones better?

wicked hound
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Nitro+ RX580? Nitro+ 5700XT? Smth else? Nitro+ doesnt refer to the actual GPU, just a brand model

wet pebble
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rx 5700xt nitro+

lone pond
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the 5700xt

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is better for bang for buck

wet pebble
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it is like a 60 difference for money

lone pond
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if i were you i would save for rtx 3000s

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the 2070s is okay

wet pebble
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thats going to be insanely expensive

lone pond
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there gonna be the same price

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as the rtx cards now

wet pebble
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then ill hve to get other good parts so i wont bottleneck

lone pond
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and the rtx cards now will lower down in price

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you wont

wet pebble
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really

lone pond
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whats your specs

wet pebble
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?

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im thinking of buiding one

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dont have one yet

lone pond
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oh ok

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well for that i would use a amd ryzen 7 3700x or if you have the budget a ryzen 9 3900x

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my specs are a 5700xt

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and a ryzen 7 3700x

wet pebble
#

thats good

lone pond
#

and i am gonna upgrade to ryzen 9 next year

#

so i think the 5700xt will be better off for you

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what do you intend to do with it

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like are you gonna use ray tracing is that a big thing for you

wet pebble
#

mostly gaming, a bit of graphic design, some editing, and maybe streaming

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idk about ray tracing, ill try it if i get a nvidia carf

lone pond
#

ok then the ryzen 9 would be better for you

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and if you really need more get the ryzen 9 3950x but i think you are gonna be good with the 9 3900x

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and a 5700xt

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cause the gaming is overall better and for streaming

wet pebble
#

i have two lists an intel one and a ryzen one

lone pond
#

and its WAYYYYYYYYYY better

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for video editing and streaming

wet pebble
#

whats way better?

lone pond
#

because amd is more towards the content creator side rtx is gaming

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whats way better?
@wet pebble 5700xt

wet pebble
#

than the 2070s?

lone pond
#

yup

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amd gpus are better for content creation

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but if your looking for gaming

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get a a 2070s

#

the 5700xt is good in gaming and everything

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so dont think the 5700xt is bad for gaming

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also dont get Intel pls

wet pebble
#

i really dont know what to go for. intel or ryzen and an amd or nvidia gou

lone pond
#

its gonna be way more costly

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and way less power

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a ryzen card will get you more

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because Intel cards are better for gaming by 10% than Ryzen

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while Ryzen is better in everything

wet pebble
#

but the intel cpu has better core and boost clock

lone pond
#

for one core

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ryzen its for all cores

#

also ryzen is better in EVERYTHING

wet pebble
#

huh?

lone pond
#

every sector its better than intel

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and cheaper

#

the only place Intel beats Ryzen is if you have a mid range or lower GPU than you get 10 % more

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but your getting a 5700xt or a 2070s

arctic phoenix
#

or in high tier gaming systems

lone pond
#

it wont matter the 10%

arctic phoenix
#

where did u get the mid/low range gpu theory?

lone pond
#

its not a theory

arctic phoenix
#

3300x/3100 is better than intel

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for low/mid tier gpus

lone pond
#

i mean you really see it in low range

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the extra gaming

#

but in high range

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if your at 240 your not gonna notice a extra 10 frames

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or even if your above 120

wet pebble
#

ill send my intel and ryzen list

arctic phoenix
#

no i mean amd beats intel in terms of gaming

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for the same price point

lone pond
#

oh yea

#

yea thats true

arctic phoenix
#

intel is not budget friendly unless you find something used

lone pond
#

and some time if your lucky for even less price

wet pebble
#

o wait i cant send a pcpart link

lone pond
#

because AMD is almost alway on sale

arctic phoenix
#

@wet pebble dont put the https

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or put a space

lone pond
#

and the starting price is cheaper

wet pebble
#

:/pcpartpicker.com/list/648LZf

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thats intel

arctic phoenix
upper mural
#

Achieved a 1090 undervolt on my 5700xt Nitro. Dropped my temps by over 15c.

lone pond
#

nice

upper mural
#

I thought I had 1050 for a while. Till I crashed in games. Heaven benchmark was great for this

lone pond
#

@wet pebble the amd build

upper mural
#

But my Ram is a disaster. Anything over stock flickers

wet pebble
#

i could go ryzen 7 3700x

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which is better

lone pond
#

yea that would be better

wet pebble
#

the ryzen

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7?

lone pond
#

ryzen is cheaper

upper mural
#

3800x is 4.5 boost

lone pond
#

and it will give you better performance

wet pebble
#

but then its around the same price for ryzen and intel

upper mural
#

It’s little ya. But it’s their

wet pebble
#

so which has better performance

upper mural
#

Games. Intel. Productivity. AMD

lone pond
#

in games if you have a good gpu like the one your buying

wet pebble
#

what about if i do mostly games but some productivity

upper mural
#

But. The gaming gap is only 5-10%. The productivity is like 30%

lone pond
#

then it doesn't matter if you have ryzen or intel

#

however if you are getting a mid or lower gpu

wet pebble
#

so just go whats cheaper?

lone pond
#

than the 5-10% will matter

arctic phoenix
#

just know

#

its around 30 frame diff

lone pond
#

@wet pebble ryzen 7 is cheaper

wet pebble
#

thats huge

arctic phoenix
#

between 10700k and 3800x

wet pebble
#

30 frames

lone pond
#

the 30 frames will only matter if you are getting a lower end gpu

#

but ur getting a 5700xt

#

which is a high end gpu

wet pebble
#

or 2070s

lone pond
#

so it wont be 30 frames

arctic phoenix
#

literally just watch a youtube video

lone pond
#

yea or 2070s

upper mural
#

Frames are mostly dependent on cpu

arctic phoenix
#

?

#

what

lone pond
#

no

arctic phoenix
#

are you talking about

#

?

upper mural
#

Especially when you get above 144

arctic phoenix
#

most games have gpu bottleneck but ok

wet pebble
#

@arctic phoenix so between a ryzen 7 3800x and an intel 10600k theres a huge fps difference?

lone pond
#

no

wet pebble
#

3700x

lone pond
#

only if your getting a low end gpu

arctic phoenix
#

10600k and 3700x is around 10-15 frames

lone pond
#

but ur not

upper mural
#

You reduce graphics anyway if you want competitive. You max ur frames

arctic phoenix
#

10700k is the best one basically

lone pond
#

for gaming for lower end gpus

wet pebble
#

is it worth the price tho?

lone pond
#

what

arctic phoenix
#

you decide

wet pebble
#

Ok thanks

arctic phoenix
#

is it worth paying for an aftermarket cooler

lone pond
#

no cause ur getting a 2070s or 5700xt

#

the intel one is not gonna make a difference

arctic phoenix
#

bruh

#

it will

#

no matter what gpu u get

#

its around 15 frames on average

upper mural
#

AMD is generally “good enough”. But if you insist on best gaming cpu then you have to go Intel

lone pond
#

yea but in a higher end

arctic phoenix
#

in higher end gaming systems

lone pond
#

it really wont if your at 240 and you can get 255 with intel

#

its not really gonna matter

#

25 frames

arctic phoenix
#

its around 165 vs 150

#

but that means less frame drops

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less spikes

upper mural
#

^

lone pond
#

see in lower end it matters

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like you showed

arctic phoenix
#

?

lone pond
#

165 vs 150

#

but really in higher end it doesn't too much

arctic phoenix
#

ok but thats not low end

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in demanding games

lone pond
#

also he said he wants to do a little gaming, video editing and streaming

arctic phoenix
#

do you think the 2070 super can get 240 frames in most games?

wet pebble
#

no

lone pond
#

so ur not gonna do all of that

wet pebble
#

mostly gaming, and a little graphic design and some editing and maybe streaming

lone pond
#

ok

arctic phoenix
#

those are all maybes

#

and intel isnt exceptionally bad in any of those

#

yes AMD is better

#

but mainly you'd use it for gaming

lone pond
#

what is your monitor @wet pebble

wet pebble
#

idk which one im going to get yet

#

definetly 144hz tho

lone pond
#

i think you will be better off with AMD

arctic phoenix
#

whats your budget again?

lone pond
#

@wet pebble whats your budget

wet pebble
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around 1300

lone pond
#

usd

wet pebble
#

yes

lone pond
#

ok

wet pebble
#

im leaning towards ryzen

lone pond
#

yea

wet pebble
#

its like a 10fps difference

lone pond
#

because Intel will cost you more

#

and prob go out of your budget

#

and it will cost even more to oc

wet pebble
#

y

lone pond
#

cause in Intel

#

if your CPU doesn't end in a k

#

you can overclock

#

you have to buy a CPU with a k which cost more

#

75 bucks and up

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more

wet pebble
#

i have a k in my list

lone pond
#

yea so its gonna cost more

wet pebble
#

no

lone pond
#

like you will be very tight

#

cause ur budget is 1300

wicked hound
#

With Intel you pay extra for the K CPU, the CPU cooler, and the mobo

lone pond
#

and your getting k

#

yea

wet pebble
#

the k is unlocked no?

lone pond
#

yes it is

wicked hound
#

Do not get an Intel CPU for gaming unless you have a 2080S or 2080Ti

lone pond
#

he is getting a 2070s

#

or 5700xt

wet pebble
#

yes

wicked hound
#

can get a better GPU instead of CPU

lone pond
#

cause your budget is very tight

#

if you get a k and a 2070s, and then you have to buy a afterarket cooler

wet pebble
#

my ryzen list is around the same price as intel

lone pond
#

and pay more for a mobo

wet pebble
#

if i go 7 3700x

lone pond
#

your gonna go out ur budget

#

send me the link for both of those again

wet pebble
#

i can do 100 more

#

its fine if that happens

lone pond
#

there is no point like Hei said

#

cause your are not getting a 2080s or 2080ti

#

if you do

#

its gonna be wayy out of your budget

wicked hound
lone pond
#

thats a 3600

#

he wants a 3700x

#

i rather get a good cpu and gpu

#

like go down on the gpu to get a better cpu

#

instead getting a really good gpu and a meh cpu

#

or getting a really good cpu and a meh gpu

wet pebble
#

isnt that bottlenecking?

lone pond
#

kinda

wet pebble
#

for 2080s and 5 3600

granite juniper
#

no

wet pebble
#

i have no idea what to get 😂

lone pond
#

get a ryzen 7 3700x

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and a 5700xt

#

but if you want ray tracing and your main focus is not content creation but gaming, get a 2070s

#

@wet pebble

wet pebble
#

ill probably go 2070s

#

ill just pay extra for a tiny bit more performance and ill try out ray tracing

lone pond
#

ok

#

then ryzen 7

#

and 2070s

wet pebble
#

its 100 less than intel

#

is it worth paying the extra 100

#

like 130

arctic phoenix
#

not really then

#

but change your hdd to a 2tb one it

#

its literally 2 times the storage

#

for 7 more dollars

wet pebble
#

Ok

bitter jungle
#

Is it possible to undervolt Nvidia 600 series GPUs? If so, how? I have an EVGA GTX 670 FTW id like to undervolt.

wicked hound
#

voltage control seemed to at least use to be possible before. Does it not work now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVQtKmOL30U

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In this video, we take a look at how to unlock the voltage limiter and flash a modified or custom BIOS on your Kepler based GPUs. This should work on GTX 660, 660ti, 670, 680 video...

▶ Play video
#

It's 680, but should be basically same as 670 I'd assume

bitter jungle
#

Nah I can't open up the graphics card as a screw is stripped on it and it's running at a nice and toasty 93 degrees so I need to get some better thermals @wicked hound

wicked hound
#

I didn't look at the video other then like 30 sec, but that is for voltage. Do you need to open the card for voltage stuff at 600 series? @bitter jungle

bitter jungle
#

No you asked "Does it not work now?"

#

And it does

#

But I can;t open it to clean it and replace paste

#

so that's why i need to undervolt.

#

Am I not understnading @wicked hound?

#

*understanding

wicked hound
#

You asked for how to undervolt it which I thought you already undervolted some cards before. With the fact you are asking that and for 600 series I assumed that 600 series was locked down in some wierd way.

bitter jungle
#

Oh lol no I've never undervolted

wicked hound
#

Welp, talk to too many people I guess. Maybe it was 1111. Idk now

bitter jungle
#

So i just follow that video and I should be good?

wicked hound
#

I think. I didn't check the video for it and assumed Jayz would get it at least mostly right

#

UI might be a bit different due to age

bitter jungle
#

aight. I'll try it out and see what I can do

wet pebble
rigid crag
#

Looks like a very capable list

#

Just FYI, that mobo is not in stock on bestbuy but it is on newegg

bitter jungle
#

Hey @wicked hound is there any way to reduce temps without undervolt? Like reducing power limit or something? I’ve heard from a bunch of sites that 600 series can’t be undervolted, I think that video is just for overclocking or something.

pale talon
#

RX 480 vs RX 570?

#

Assuming same price.

#

Unfortunately I'm finding a lot of conflicting information

bitter jungle
#

Probably 570. I believe performance is like almost the same but 570 is newer. Also some older 480s like to draw more power from the slot then they should @pale talon

pale talon
#

ok

#

hmmm

#

trying to win auctions on 470/480/570/580 atm

#

if you see a BIN price of $90 would you take it and run

bitter jungle
#

Nope

#

Highest I’ve gone is a 470 for $80 a little while ago. That’s because I literally couldn’t find anything better. You can get better prices

pale talon
#

unfortunately uh

#

there was a 480 for $75 this morning

#

but I forgot to bid on it

#

...

bitter jungle
#

Forgot

pale talon
#

wait actually I mean

bitter jungle
#

Bruh

pale talon
#

I forgot to wake up for it

#

to bid in the last 10 min

bitter jungle
#

Smhmh

pale talon
bitter jungle
#

Deals > sleep

pale talon
#

smh

#

wednesday couldn't come soon

#

sooner

#

need my $40 970

#

@royal copper stop ghosting

#

smh

#

yes I am discriminating

royal copper
pale talon
#

imagine being this seller and wondering why your auction has 0 bids

bitter jungle
#

I got a 470 4gb for $50

pale talon
#

was that truly recent

bitter jungle
#

Lol I’ve seen that one hyper

pale talon
#

feels like prices gone up

bitter jungle
#

Yes it was like a week ago

pale talon
#

oof

bitter jungle
#

And it was in crazy good condition

pale talon
#

guess I need to be a bit more patient then

bitter jungle
#

Didn’t even have to clean or anything

pale talon
#

also what do these listings that say "seller refurbished" even mean

#

I will bet all my money

#

half these guys don't even know what a thermal paste swap is

wicked hound
#

@bitter jungle if you can increase vcore you should be able to decrease it I'd assume

bitter jungle
#

Hmmmmb

#

Ok

pale talon
#

hey yams

#

buy my 670

#

/s

wicked hound
#

if using afterburner you'd need to do a custom voltage curve

bitter jungle
#

Just did another stress test without any cleaning and it gets to like 95 degrees :P

#

@pale talon how much

#

@wicked hound how to use afterburner for voltage

wicked hound
#

rule no. 9 intensifies

#

I think that'd be all you need for voltage control

#

if not reference design best to change it

bitter jungle
#

@wicked hound there’s reference, standard MSI, extended MSI, and third party. Which one?

pale talon
#

smh my head

#

I said /s

#

for a reason

wicked hound
bitter jungle
#

So I should choose 3rd party since I have EVGA?

wicked hound
#

is it a ref PCB tho?

bitter jungle
#

Uhh

#

Idk blower style

#

It’s the FTW variant

wicked hound
#

FTW was blower style back then?

bitter jungle
wicked hound
#

blower style makes me assume ref, but FTW makes me think otherwise

bitter jungle
#

So...

#

If I choose the wrong one will that damage it?

wicked hound
#

shouldnt. Never heard of that happening before

bitter jungle
#

Mmk I’m gonna try reference

wicked hound
#

either ref or third party I guess. Probs ref first

#

just do a small vcore increase and see if it works

#

before the fun UV

bitter jungle
#

+1 core voltage :P

#

+1 mV?

wicked hound
#

It's % based

bitter jungle
#

Err

pale talon
#

+50% core voltage

bitter jungle
pale talon
#

ah yes

#

% mV

wicked hound
#

wait nani? Yours is mV?

#

wierd, anyways, 600 series has a cap so dont need to worry about damaging it

bitter jungle
#

Wait uuuh the screen just turned off no signal o_0

#

I didn’t even do anything

pale talon
#

Yams

#

you broke it

#

congration

wicked hound
#

should be software OC rn, so should be fine

pale talon
bitter jungle
#

Bro power button won’t turn PC off...

#

I’m scared

#

I’m scared

#

Wtv if I need to I’ll sell this GPU as for parts and just get new one :P

pale talon
#

yams

#

did you

bitter jungle
#

Hyper

pale talon
#

hold it for 5 seconds

bitter jungle
#

Yes

pale talon
#

okay

#

pull the tail out

#

wait

#

I mean the power cord

bitter jungle
#

Oh wait it work now?

#

Hngrrrr

pale talon
#

nani

bitter jungle
#

This is wacky

pale talon
wicked hound
#

this stuff will softlock your PC a lot if not in correct settings

bitter jungle
wicked hound
#

ha

#

get updated

bitter jungle
#

What happen

pale talon
#

Yams knowledge of pc parts is being updated

wicked hound
#

system postponed update until next boot

bitter jungle
#

I have that basic wide range knowledge but idk about this kinda stuff hngrr

pale talon
#

yams

#

eat a snickers

bitter jungle
#

Why

#

I don’t have any ;(

pale talon
#

You're not you when you're hngrr

bitter jungle
pale talon
#

not hngrr enough

#

0/10

bitter jungle
#

I guess I should start spelling “hrngh” right

pale talon
#

no

#

go eat soup

bitter jungle
#

But I already ate dinner

#

And am work on this GPU

#

This PC is full of problems

pale talon
#

eeeeeeeeeeet

bitter jungle
#

It’s got CPU fan issue stripped GPU screw and dumb front fan >:|

pale talon
#

also wait how exactly does 970 stack up to the other stuff

bitter jungle
#

970 is like RX 580 level performance

#

Very very similar

pale talon
#

time to youtube

bitter jungle
#

You know what I’m taking this GPU out and trying again to clean it

#

Let’s see if I strip another screw smhmh

past mantle
#

hey, anyone here that may be able to help me figure something out about nzxt g12?

pale talon
#

okay well uh

#

it definitely appears to be a bit better than 570

#

and that's all I needed to know

#

but it does seem a bit slower than 580

#

or maybe I'm not watching enough benchmarks

past mantle
#

thx

pale talon
#

@bitter jungle 980 @$75

#

I think I'm gonna

#

jump at it

#

BIN

bitter jungle
#

What’s the catch?

#

Probably has problems

pale talon
#

pulled from prebuilt

#

seller doesn't know about tech

bitter jungle
#

Hm

#

I guess go for it

pale talon
#

Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Video Graphics Card - 4 GB GDDR5 - USED. Condition is Used.

This was pulled from a pre-built compact ASUS gaming PC that I purchased new. It was used for a streaming device with light VR gaming in our living room until the graphics card was suddenly no longer detected. I am not an expert and do not know what is wrong with it, if anything, hence the low price. It has absolutely no physical damage or anything that would suggest that it's not working properly. If you know how to fix it, it is a steal at this price. I am selling it AS IS because it was not working for me and I don't know if it was the graphics card or something else or if it can even be fixed, so please keep that in mind! Thanks for looking! 🙂Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Video Graphics Card - 4 GB GDDR5 - USED. Condition is Used.

This was pulled from a pre-built compact ASUS gaming PC that I purchased new. It was used for a streaming device with light VR gaming in our living room until the graphics card was suddenly no longer detected. I am not an expert and do not know what is wrong with it, if anything, hence the low price. It has absolutely no physical damage or anything that would suggest that it's not working properly. If you know how to fix it, it is a steal at this price. I am selling it AS IS because it was not working for me and I don't know if it was the graphics card or something else or if it can even be fixed, so please keep that in mind! Thanks for looking! 🙂

bitter jungle
#

If ur PSU can handle it

pale talon
#

wait

#

no longer detected

#

HECK

#

nvm

bitter jungle
#

Oh man sold?

pale talon
#

this should be listed as Not Working

#

or For Parts

#

false alarm sorry

bitter jungle
#

Oh dang called it

#

Ha

pale talon
#

7950

#

these HD cards are weird

#

oof benchmarks look poop nvm

bitter jungle
#

Omg omg OMG

#

I can unscrew a different part of the GPU

#

Idk if it’ll come off but it’s worth a shot

pale talon
#

good luck

bitter jungle
#

YESSSSSSS

#

I am so thankful

#

No need to undervolt anymore!

pale talon
#

wait what are you doing again

bitter jungle
#

Cleaning the GPU

#

Trying to reduce temps

#

And now I can finally finish this built :D

#

Words cannot describe how happy I am

pale talon
#

oh

#

😮

bitter jungle
#

Thank you thank you

#

This concludes the episode of “Yams asks a question in which he doesn’t understand the response given to him so he tries something else and it works and it’s just a waste of time and frustrates everyone”

#

New episode every two weeks

pale talon
#

You also made me cry once

#

in a bad way

#

but we can gloss over that

bitter jungle
#

Wait what

#

Oh no

pale talon
bitter jungle
#

Can we like not gloss over that

#

What did I do

pale talon
#

lol

bitter jungle
#

No actually

pale talon
#
  1. it was a joke
#
  1. it was in dms
#

smh my head

bitter jungle
#

Okay phew

#

Oh I get it now lol

pale talon
#

still hate you though

bitter jungle
#

I didn’t mean it like that :(

pale talon
#

tell that to the billion shards of my heart on the floor

wary anvil
#

I also hate yams

#

too starchy

pale talon
#

hi five

bitter jungle
pale talon
bitter jungle
#

I’m leaving this server since obviously I’m not appreciated 😭

pale talon
bitter jungle
#

Jk I wouldn’t do that

#

You’re gonna have to deal with me :)

pale talon
#

guys

#

seller doesn't know what the hell this card is

#

let's do some sleuthing

#

and maybe snipe it

bitter jungle
#

Looks like a 660

#

Or 760

#

Or 960

pale talon
#

so in other words

bitter jungle
#

Sure...?

pale talon
#

sorry

#

I forgot that's politically incorrect

#

I meant to say e-waste

#

okay but seriously though

bitter jungle
#

Still don’t get it

pale talon
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the name of the emote is trash

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smh my head

bitter jungle
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Gtx 660 is still decent super-budget card

pale talon
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it is

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that one actually looks exactly like my 670

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but with a single 6-pin

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instead of double 6-pin

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so I guess that supports them being from the same gen

bitter jungle
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Gtx 960 uses single 6 pin

pale talon
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yes but aren't the 700-series onwards reference models made with silvery shrouds

bitter jungle
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Are you sure?

pale talon
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I don't know

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That's why I am asking you

bitter jungle
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Oh lol

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Uh

pale talon
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time to pcp

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or google again

bitter jungle
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MSI GTX 960 looks liek that

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*like

pale talon
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so apparently

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this seller did exactly zero leave-it-in-the-pc-and-turn-it-on to see what it is

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sadness

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I wanna reach through my screen and give him a slap

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a light one

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but hard enough to make him feel bad

bitter jungle
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I feel that

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That’s another Hyper quote I’m saving to my collection

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So far I have 2

pale talon
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how many

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o---

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oh

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"New ListingGIGABYTE AORUS GeForce GTX 1060 (rev 2.0) 6GB Graphics Card"

bitter jungle
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The only other one is “greetings and salutations my confederate fleshlings”

pale talon
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I see in chat history that you have borrowed it a couple times

bitter jungle
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I have

pale talon
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My heart brims with pride

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or whatever is left of it

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after you shattered it

bitter jungle
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It should

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Want me to help you super glue the pieces back together

pale talon
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no

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glue is made from cow bones and I am vegan

bitter jungle
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I’ll use tape?

pale talon
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still a non-vegan adhesive

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a blowtorch would suffice

bitter jungle
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Ok

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Want me to use that then?

pale talon
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yes

bitter jungle
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Ok

wary anvil
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super glue is vegan

bitter jungle
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I have 10 super glues I can use

pale talon
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no

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I will not tolerate chemicals in my bod

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peace

bitter jungle
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Ok blowtorch it is

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Goodbye

pale talon
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goodbye cruel world

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oh this is a conveniently placed cliff

wary anvil
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peace
@pale talon
Dihydrogen monoxide okay with you?

pale talon
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Yes I drink two gallons of it every day

bitter jungle
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Good for you

wary anvil
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but.... chemical....

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Also you must visit the necessary a lot

pale talon
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nah

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I store it all somewhere

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hey yams

bitter jungle
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Do you drink the two gallons at once or...

pale talon
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RX 570 MSI Gaming X or RX 570 Gigabyte Gaming

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cooler-wise

bitter jungle
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Like do you take sips throughout the day

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I had a Gigabyte RX 470 and it was loud and didn’t cool that well. I had the MSI version and it cooled well and was quiet

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So it’s a no brainer

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MSI

pale talon
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copy that

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the current Gaming X coolers all seem great

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so I'm guessing it's similar

bitter jungle
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You’re talking about the red and black one right?

pale talon
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yes

bitter jungle
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Ok just making sure

pale talon
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yeah

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it's definitely not the armor one

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lmao

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I hear that blows

bitter jungle
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So many armor models are being sold used :P

merry rune
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yeah the armor ones have crummy cooling from everything i've heard

pale talon
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"runs fortnite at 100+ fps"

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press X to doubt

bitter jungle
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Maybe at 240p...

pale talon
bitter jungle
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Possibly 480p

pale talon
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we 2010 bois

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sorry 2000

bitter jungle
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And wait isn’t it only a DX10 card?

merry rune
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bruh, the HD4830 has like...512MB vram iirc

bitter jungle
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Fortnite is only DX11 I think. Or does it support DX10?

pale talon
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anyway there's a BIN MSI Gaming X RX 570 for $90 and I am wondering at this point if I should just take it

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I mean

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I can definitely get better deals

merry rune
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if it's the 8GB, the gamign X is a solid card

pale talon
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but how much longer am I gonna spend waiting around for auctions

merry rune
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i'd say worth it

bitter jungle
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@pale talon that’s been up there for so long. I’m suprised it hasn’t sold.

pale talon
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You've seen it too?

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...

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Actually

bitter jungle
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Yeah like a month ago

pale talon
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Considering the number of people

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who shark ebay

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for graphics cards

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of course you've seen it

bitter jungle
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Lol

pale talon
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"surprised it hasn't sold"

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Is that to say you think it's a good deal

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or just an okay enough one