well currently I only have a 4K discount TV that does 30FPS, but eyeah, i guess those are the options as they stand
#graphics-cards
lone pond
plucky cedar
whats a good around 250-300$ card?
rich oasis
@plucky cedar streaming or no?
plucky cedar
probably not
rich oasis
Then get a 5700
rich oasis
If you want to save a buck you can get a 5600xt
plucky cedar
sadly all out of around 300$ 5700 😦 ill keep auto notify on thanks again
are 6 pin to 8 pin adapters ok to use for graphic cards?
pale talon
don't use power adapters on any of the power connections in your system
least of all for the component that can suck the most power from your power supply
if a PSU is built to handle 8-pin stuff, it will have 8-pin heads
otherwise, it won't
@plucky cedar
plucky cedar
oh ok, soo what 6 pin gpu would you recommend?
spare relic
1650 Super is good, only 160 USD at B&H, but not at the level of 5700
What GPU do you use?
plucky cedar
im using a 660ti from a pc i found at flea market =p
spare relic
Hehe
plucky cedar
a friend is letting me buy his pc for like 200 he said just needs a card since the one inside isnt made for gaming
plucky cedar
so 1650 super is what i should aim for than?
spare relic
I'm not sure if the 1660 Super has a 6 pin power connector...if it does, you might be able to go for that. Otherwise, the 1650 Super would be a great GPU
plucky cedar
awesome thanks
frank hedge
Hi guys I wanted to know if I'm better to go with an AMD rx5700 xt or and RTX 2070/2080 I know that they're both good GPU but I'm not sure so if someone can maybe help me a little bit, thanks!
bitter jungle
RTX 2080
thick mango
i have a question to anyone knowledgable about gpus: would it be beneficial for me to get a quadro rtx 4000 or wait for rtx 3080TI? i want to mainly have it for rendering but gaming on the side
torpid garden
Check out some benchmarks specific to your use case. https://www.pugetsystems.com/all_articles.php
thick mango
my problem right now is i really dont want to be paying 1500 or more for gpu
i have a feeling the 3080TI is NOT going to be less than 1500
at most probably 2 grand
bitter jungle
Well the quadros weren’t meant for gaming so I don’t know if Yoyo could do much of that with a Quadro
thick mango
honestly dude my gaming days are almost behind me cause i have been getting bored with games and i only play games now if i need a break on doing art
bitter jungle
What games you play
bitter jungle
Like...?
thick mango
for example baldurs gate, command & conquer, pillars of eternity, skyrim, etc
bitter jungle
Hm
I think it’s up to you
3080 ti will definitely be more gaming based
Quadro is workstation based
bitter jungle
Possibly
I know you can still play some games in quadros just not well usually
*on
thick mango
honestly i just need a better card than my 1080TI cause its not cutting it anymore
bitter jungle
Wow 1080 TI is still a very very good card
thick mango
daz studio sucks up my power for my 1080TI
and then starts sucking up my ram
the program has yet to be fixed
and this has been going on for years
sigh
does anyone know what good gpu i can get for rendering i mean PURE rendering. if i have to buy 2 to get a good rendering speed i will
dm me if anyone does
torpid garden
Did you read the puget systems link
bitter jungle
RX 550 little better than GT 1030
pale talon
is it?
bitter jungle
But definitely defintely not worth $80
pale talon
darn it
bitter jungle
Yeah LowSpecGamer did a comparison video between the two
runic trail
As an estimate/prediction, when do you guys think GPU prices will go back down/come back in stock?
wary anvil
maybe a few months?
runic trail
Alright
Because I'm thinking of just as a replacement for the time I wait, I get like a 580 or like 5500
bitter jungle
Don’t get a 5500
runic trail
Oh alright
bitter jungle
Bad value
runic trail
I was also debating liker a 580, 1060 6gb, 980
bitter jungle
980 has like GTX 1660 performance iirc
Or in between 1650 s and 1660
1060 6gb bad bad value imo
And aren’t you gonna get a 5700 XT?
brisk flame
GTX 980 is still a solid card tbh
runic trail
5700
brisk flame
if you can get it for a good price, that is
bitter jungle
Just wait for 5700
Getting a Mediocre GPU before your Better one is a waste
Of money
runic trail
Oh alright.
I think it was ghost that said a 5600XT has similar performance to a 1660S
Is that true?
runic trail
Well, I'll be streaming like 40% of the time
bitter jungle
Wait if you’re streaming you might want an Nvidia card Hadwee
runic trail
On B&H, the 5700 I was looking at is said to come back in stock between 7-14 days
brisk flame
ya
bitter jungle
RTX 2060 (ko?) maybe
runic trail
Because if I get the 1660s, I can probably fit in a case.
I was going to get the 2060KO until it went outta stock
bitter jungle
Ah dang
runic trail
And the 5700 is too
But I'm thinking about the 1660s now since if I get that, I can get a new case too.
bitter jungle
I say wait
brisk flame
used GTX 980s are only ~150, so thats pretty cool
bitter jungle
Waiting seems like the better play for performance
runic trail
Wait for the 5700 or 2060KO?
brisk flame
2060
bitter jungle
@brisk flame someone I know found a 980 for $90
runic trail
Alright
brisk flame
thats a great deal
runic trail
How long should I wait before deciding to get a 1660S?
brisk flame
its worth the wait
bitter jungle
Definitely
brisk flame
the 2060 is a fair bit better for only 70 more
bitter jungle
I’d say so
bitter jungle
A few months will get you good performance at a good price
brisk flame
itll end up in stock
runic trail
Oh wait..
arctic phoenix
i got a delidded 4790k with the board and ram for 180 :))
runic trail
A 2060 for a pretty good price is in stock right now
arctic phoenix
what gpu with it?
runic trail
Should I spend an extra 15$ to get it now or wait until the 2060KO comes back in stock for 300$
runic trail
The 2060 I linked gives a 25$ coupon and a 20$ mail in rebate card
runic trail
Just in case, I'll wait for july 4th sales since it's not too far from now
brisk flame
i mean, 295 isnt bad, if you plan to follow through with the rebate
runic trail
Yeah
Would you guys say it's a good plan to wait until July 4th to see if there's any sales?
brisk flame
sure
arctic phoenix
what gpu to combo with a 4790k?
runic trail
Depends what you're gonna be doin with the system
brisk flame
GTX 1080
arctic phoenix
gaming
brisk flame
because it would look cool
arctic phoenix
tru
brisk flame
and be time period correct
runic trail
And thanks guys, I'll make sure to send a picture when I order the GPU 🙂
Also, what's your budget meep?
arctic phoenix
idk i just want to have as little bottleneck as possible
brisk flame
bottleneck isnt really as cut and dry as people make it out to be
you can run a 2080ti off that cpu
arctic phoenix
brisk flame
if youre playing anno 1800, maybe not
runic trail
If you have no budget, get a 2080 ti 
brisk flame
if youre playing a game like doom 2016, youre fine
runic trail
i'm joking meep
brisk flame
if youre playing minecraft, youre screwed lmao
runic trail
don't do what i said
arctic phoenix
i was thinking either a 970 or a 1060 6GB
brisk flame
i mean, if you had the money to get a 2080s, then upgrade the rest of the system within the next month or so, but you probably arent
arctic phoenix
something balanced
runic trail
Don't get the 1060
arctic phoenix
nomegalul
brisk flame
1060 has bad driver support nowadays
arctic phoenix
so 1650 supers?
arctic phoenix
im hoping to get something used
brisk flame
whatever you got in your budget
arctic phoenix
and 1060s come up a lot more than 1650 supers
runic trail
It's because 1650 supers are a lot more newer.
And the 1060 is a few years old
4 years old
sheesh
brisk flame
yeah, if youre going 10 series, you want a 1070ti or better, otherwise, snag an RX 580 or a brand new card
runic trail
I'd say if you are little more tight on the budget and can't get a 1660s, get a 1660
Or you can probably find a 1070 used for around 200$
brisk flame
but, if youre really trying to spend as little as possible, then a used RX 580 is actually quite good
bitter jungle
No 1660 has too small of a performance jump to justify its price
runic trail
I've seen 580's in the used market for a really good price
bitter jungle
If you’re getting a 1660 is should be a super
runic trail
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153651402320 a 1070 for 225$ if you'd like
brisk flame
1070 is definetly a 5600xt level of perf tho
runic trail
If you do want to go new though, for 5$ more is a 1660S
brisk flame
most used cards really are too expensive right now, they still need to come down in price
runic trail
Yeah, that 1070 when I was looking for it a few months ago was only 199.99$
Now it's 225$
brisk flame
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gtx-1650-super-ph-gtx1650s-o4g/p/N82E16814126357
ok, so thoughts on this?
runic trail
In my opinion, I'd go for atleast a 2 fan card
brisk flame
why tho
runic trail
There's also the TUF version of ASUS's 1650S
brisk flame
its also backorder, actually
runic trail
damn
Why is the 1660S one of the main ones that are still in stock and barely changed prices?
waxen orchid
so i have a computer on the way that i had built it has a ryzen 7 3700x processor and an evga geforce rtx 2060 super graphics card in it. i have 16 gig or 3200 mhz ram as well what would be the best settings for me to play games on to still get 60+fps on most titles?
runic trail
In a lot of titles, I'd say max settings
wary anvil
That will give 120+ in a lot of titles
hollow pewter
Which RTX 2080 super model is the best?
waxen orchid
nice thanks
runic trail
@hollow pewter They all are good
But I did hear that the FE card for the 2080 Super has some specs that are better than other models sold by ASUS, etc..
So if the FE model is available for you and a reasonable price, I'd go with it
runic trail
That one's also good, heard good things about it
But in the end, any 2080 Super is great, whatever fits your choice/budget 🙂
analog slate
Anyone have problems with asus gpu tweak and nzxt cam not seeing gpu but the gpu is perfectly fine
lone pond
is the msi gaming x 1660 super ok for vr?
waxen orchid
you should be able to do some vr with that card its probably one of the lowest end ones that you can get thats vr capable
if im incorrect on that forgive me im just getting into pc and learning as i go
lone pond
bc currently I'm running the msi gaming x 1650 with vr and it somehow works on low
waxen orchid
yea the 1660 super adds and extra 2 gig of vram from 4 on the 1650 to 6 on the 1660 super so that alone will help
jade tinsel
GT 730 gang
mellow kiln
gt 210 gang
arctic phoenix
i just got a GT 640 for 30$
just to realize that there aren't any new ports (hdmi/dp)
which means hi newegg pls ship the converter
spare relic
GT 730 gang
runic trail
@lone pond @waxen orchid The 1660S is perfect for VR.
If you have something like the Oculus Rift S, something as old as a GTX 1060/RX 480 (a few years old) is the recommended
The 1660S beats both of them by a good amount.
So yes, the GPU you're talking about is perfect for VR.
Also, anyone 1660S is good, the MSI one you're talking about is one of the ones that are at the top of the line.
Also, the 1660S is not even close to the low end cards for VR
The 1650 I'd say, is.
@waxen orchid And it's alright, we all started off like that.
@lone pond Hope you enjoy the new 1660S! 🙂
waxen orchid
@runic trail no hard feelings I appreciate the help 😄 I’ve got my first pc hopefully arriving in a few days and it has a rtx 2060 super in it so I’m definitely trying to get acclimated to all the cards to try and help out and educate myself at the same time
runic trail
@waxen orchid Sounds like a plan! Wish you good luck in the future! And enjoy that PC 😄
lone pond
the 1660s is for a friend that is getting vr
I'm a little bit poor to go any higher with my pc. ryzen 3 2200g, gtx 1650, 16gb ram
sadly, I got it before the ryzen 3 3100 came out
in november, my birthday hits, and 1 month after that is christmas, so I'll be able to get new parts then.
waxen orchid
Depending on how long Nvidia waits to drop their rtx 3000 GPUs you may get lucky and get a price drop on some stuff between now and then
tired anchor
When are they thinking of dropping the new GPUs @waxen orchid
waxen orchid
@tired anchor I haven’t heard I know the benchmarks got leaked a few days ago but haven’t heard anything official since then
lone pond
about my pc, the prices were lower at the time for holidays, and I got the ram from a friend
tired anchor
So best time to build a pc is cyber Monday?
wary anvil
Is this an already built build?
lone pond
no, but he plans on buying it soon
wary anvil
Okay, there are a few things to change then
First off, scrap the SSD. It's basically one of the worst ones available and can be out-performed by harddrives
For the cpu, either get the 1600af or the 3600. 1600af is pretty much exactly the same as the 2600, just a bit cheaper. The 3600 has huge performance improvements
The cooler isn't necessary, AMD's stock cooler will work well enough
The case is also an issue. It has really bad airflow and is honestly kinda cliche at this point
lone pond
@wary anvil is this ssd ok then? https:// pcpartpicker.com/product/xpYLrH/crucial-p1-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500p1ssd8
updated it, it's now a few bucks more, but it now has an m.2 and a ryzen 5 3600
wary anvil
The main things with ssds is that you want to make sure they have dram
jovial ferry
@lone pond I would go for the mp34. The P1 is alright, but it's like $6 more for a much faster drive
And the mp34 is tlc, so it will have better durability
lone pond
alright
jovial ferry
good psu tho
lone pond
thank you for the help, and if you're wondering why I kept the case, it's because he looked through them and this is the one he liked for 100
jovial ferry
Solid build, but I think there is cheaper rgb ram at the same spec
Unless you want corsair specifically
lone pond
I trust corsair more, since a friend uses parts that are mostly corsair. They look nice, and have been working perfectly for him.
jovial ferry
That's fair. I like them too, but gskill makes good rgb stuff too
It's only like $5, so whatevs: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr
wicked hound
RAM is overpriced by a fair bit. You can get better speced RAM for cheaper, let alone same speced RAM being much cheaper
Also that case is overpriced by a fair bit as well
NZXT CAM isnt worth the extra amount
plucky cedar
yesterday I asked if a 6 to 8 pin adapter was ok to use for a gpu someone said no but what about a molex to 8 pin adapter?
hollow zephyr
molex poopy
plucky cedar
👍
mystic shadow
Yes, but I’m guessing not in the budget market. The RNDA 2 supports ray tracing, and i think that won’t be coming to to budget market anytime soon @lone pond
humble charm
Would a ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck a 2080?
twin crown
The card I want (GTX 1650 SUPER VENTUS OC) Is backordered right now, how long does back order usually take?
wary anvil
Maybe a week
sonic mural
I am still trying to decide if I want to go team red or team green here.... The rx5700xt pulse sounds like a good deal. Anyone know if driver issues still plague these cards?
waxen orchid
@sonic mural im pretty sure amd released driver updates that fixed the issues with the 5700xt you should be fine if you get it
sonic mural
Ok thanks
pine gulch
why are Pc wheel and pedal sets cost so much money?
sinful fractal
2060ko or 5600xt?
wary anvil
@sinful fractal What are you going to be doing?
wary anvil
What sorts of editing?
rich quail
2060 super
sinful fractal
vegas pro
wary anvil
I'd just go with the 2060 super then
rigid crag
He said 2060ko but still I would go with that
dark maple
I’m looking for a graphics card to go with my Ryzen 5 3400. Any suggestions? (Looking for GPUs that can run some decent games but don’t go over the $350 range)
coarse garnet
sinful fractal
sapphire pulse or gaming x?
dark maple
@coarse garnet appreciate the help mate
desert nest
What graphics cards are good for ryzen 5 1600 af or 3600? I’m planning about $320 is about estimate budget but I would be fine if $20 - $30 more
Also if it can be in Australian currency because you know
waxen orchid
@desert nest the Radeon rx 590 is right in your budget your wanting at around 300 Australian dollars. And it will work fine with either of those processors
high hollow
How do I figure out what size sli bridge I need?
brisk flame
it depends on if you need to actually sli your cards, because i know youre not gaming
but sli bridges are measured in slots, so a 3 slot bridge is the minimum
sli pins, gap, sli pins of second card
versed osprey
any rtx 2070 super deals???
fleet egret
Hello there Hi there,
I need a graphcis card
or what\
kind of graphisc card
for
Microsoft Flight Simulatotr
2020
reef heath
Guys which is better for gpu paste? Pads or paste? And what kind. For gigabyte 5700xt.
reef heath
thanks
since my temp is jumping to 90-100 :/
idle is 55-56
full load on 60-70 but now its on 90-100 😄
bitter jungle
anytime. Take care fellow human
lone pond
what’s a good gpu for 3600x for cod
rich oasis
@lone pond don't get a 3600x
get a 3600 there is little benifit and its more expensive
but any gpu lower than a 2080s is good
reef heath
ARGB OR RGB? Whats better?
bitter jungle
They're different
ARGB means adressable RGB
RGB just means RGB
You can google it
jovial ferry
RGB doesn't always mean it's not ARGB tho
twin crown
I ordered a 1660 SUPER today, I feel accomplished.
dark copper
I got the same one a few months ago
sinful fractal
can someone confirm the length of a sapphire pulse 5600xt? just making sure it fits in my case
latent gale
@sinful fractal That Graphics card is 254mm (10 inches) in length.
sinful fractal
perfect, amazon was saying otherwise so i got kinda worried
latent gale
Yeah, that's odd.
spice pilot
Looking for a GPU for stream and light video editing but on a budget.
next whale
This is clearly an MSI 1080 ti for cheap
This guy clearly is showing the right model.
spice pilot
Looking at GPU now thank you.
spice pilot
I'm still looking so it all good
next whale
Okay.
spare relic
Lmao
faint steeple
should I spend $70 on a used GTX 1060 3GB (from a friend) for a low end build or should I make a bit more budget and get a slightly better card or what other options would I have around that price range?
runic trail
What's the equivalent on AMD's side to a 1660 Super and that's in the new market, not used.
faint steeple
RX590 I think
wary anvil
@runic trail lmgtfy...
runic trail
Alright, thanks Jake and Bob.
faint steeple
im not for sure @runic trail but doing some research rn
runic trail
Oh alright, thanks
wary anvil
rx 5500xt is apparently about the same specs, but there's no reason to buy it
Ah, wait, I'm looking at 1660
Oops
faint steeple
do you only want amd and not nvidia?
wary anvil
So 5600xt from the new line up
runic trail
Yeah, only AMD
wary anvil
The nvidia equivalent of the 1660s is the 1660s, I can tell you that 🙂
runic trail
Because if there's nothing around that price that's new, I'm going with the 1660s
faint steeple
how much is the 1660s u are looking at?
faint steeple
then I would recommend the 1660 Super because it would be better for streaming
faint steeple
nvidia nvenc is super good
runic trail
yeah, i've heard a lot about it
runic trail
See, I'd love to go with like the Gigabyte 1660S that is 3 fans and goes for 240$ except it's out of stock.
torpid garden
cries in open cl
runic trail
So I'm going with the MSI Gaming X variant
torpid garden
JK, opencl performance can be great
faint steeple
is it a two fan?
torpid garden
When support exists
runic trail
Yeah the MSi one is 2 fans
torpid garden
Gaming x coolers are some of the best IME
wary anvil
OpenCL is okay, it just feels clumsy to work with
runic trail
it is jake buuuut it's 260$
and 240$ for gigabyte's 3 fan variant
And does anyone know of some good tech deals under 75$?
faint steeple
you could get Linus Tech Tips
his channel gives free tech tips
id say thats a deal
mellow kiln
leenus teech teeps
faint steeple
lol
mellow kiln
For a good monitor, $100 is really the min
That's what I would I upgrade first, keyboard and mouse dont really matter if you're staring at a blurry image
sonic mural
Costco had a big sale on lg 1080p 144hz ultragears
mellow kiln
That would require some clever eBay bidding
sonic mural
I think they sold out tho
faint steeple
how much did cost @sonic mural
mellow kiln
There's a 75hz freesync panel that alot of manufacturers use (Asus, Acer, Phillips)
sonic mural
It was 250
faint steeple
still my friend got a used 1080p 144hz 24inch for $50
mellow kiln
I got two of them for $85 each
Calibrate them right and you can have a pretty sick experience
sonic mural
But the costco one was 27 inch and had a 4 year warranty so.....
faint steeple
1080p looks weird on 27 inch monitors imo
mellow kiln
27in is way too big for me
faint steeple
I have a 27 inch but its 1440p
mellow kiln
Prefer 2 24in
faint steeple
looks like a whole lotta darkness
mellow kiln
If it's your only monitor, sure
sonic mural
That's at 0 percent brightness too lol
faint steeple
I meant that your room is dark
sonic mural
I know
runic trail
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2881315361892261/ should I save up for 2 of those?
lone pond
This a good card?
lone pond
For light stuffs
lone pond
Well, can it play Minecraft and some steam games?
jovial ferry
Yeah
But like you can cash out for a $5k rig and meh performance in Minecraft lol
Shaders and ultra settings are rough
foggy remnant
looking for a sub $120 used
royal copper
Should be able to find something on the lines of a rx 580, 1060, 980 maybe
You can try looking at local used markets or eBay, r/hardwareswap, etc
foggy remnant
thx
analog acorn
Is there any way to find PCIe 4.0 compatible motherboards on the newegg site? I cannot figure it out..
wary anvil
@analog acorn b550 and x570 are pcie 4.0 compatible
analog acorn
And they're all AMDs. So there aren't any Intell PCIe 4.0 options?
That could explain it?
wary anvil
Intel doesn't support PCIe 4.0 yet
jovial ferry
^
analog acorn
Got ya. Thanks for the help 🙂 I guess I'd best look at some AMD processors.
wary anvil
I think that the next gen of intel will have pcie 4.0. What are you looking at it for?
analog acorn
Mainly to use this https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462?Item=N82E16820167462
But I guess that isn't going to work with amd...
Crazy fast ssd
Hmmm, that is 3.0
I have made a mistake
jovial ferry
Yep
You probably don't need 4.0 anyways
Also that ssd is QLC, not a great value.
If you want 4.0, look at the sabrent rocket 4.0. If you want a normal nvme that is still very fast, mp34
analog acorn
The read/write appears to be much faster? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=20-167-462%2C20-236-578%2C20-242-401%2C0D9-002V-003Y7
jovial ferry
That is solid. Just remember, a pcle 3.0 drive is the same price for double the storage
wary anvil
Also, random read/writes are about the same from gen3 to gen4, so it's not that much of an advantage
jovial ferry
Wait, rookies can post links now?
analog acorn
That's a great point. It'd really be only useful for large data files
dreamy dragonBOT
You don't understand! I coulda had FPS. I coulda been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bot, which is what I am.
wary anvil
Huh
jovial ferry
What lol
wary anvil
Maybe they whitelisted links from wegg
torpid garden
They should be, if any get accidentally bot-deleted, lmk
jovial ferry
Would be nice to have pcpp links whitelisted too
torpid garden
newegg and pcpp are the two sites that should be whitelisted
jovial ferry
Okie, sweet
wicked hound
pcpp is whitelisted now? Neat
wispy pike
Can Nvme even saturate pci3.0 bus anyway?
wary anvil
@wispy pike Yes
uncut relic
Anyone know the average price for asus rog 2060
torpid garden
x4 pcie 3.0 can do ~4GB/s full duplex
lethal pulsar
Hello
faint steeple
GT730 for $20 or should I get a GTX 1060 3GB for $70
nocturne dagger
or just get a 1060 6gb for $100
faint steeple
My friend would be selling the 1060 3gb to me
For $70 prolly could talk him down some
nocturne dagger
i got my 1060 6gb for $100 guy only used it 3 times he turned on his computer lol
and i mean $70 just ehhh the 1060 3gb isnt that great
faint steeple
Ig
arctic phoenix
.o.
nocturne dagger
but its odd that people are trying to get $200 for a 1060 6gb its stupid
nocturne dagger
at that point get a 1660super
faint steeple
I don’t really wanna buy off eBay or anything like that
royal copper
1060 is a popular pick rn and is a bit hard to find
i was trying to look for one a week ago but only ended up with a 980 for 120 which is ok i guess
arctic phoenix
970 is under 100
faint steeple
O
royal copper
ye i found a 970 for 70usd local last week
arctic phoenix
got mine from hwswap a couple weeks back for 85
faint steeple
I found a 980ti for $150
arctic phoenix
take it
arctic phoenix
clean
faint steeple
This a good variant?
Or maybe this one 😳
Should I get that $45 970 or should I be worried that he’s selling it at that price for a reason?
He said in description it works fine
rich oasis
@faint steeple I would make sure they work
faint steeple
Yea I’ll prolly ask for a video of it working in a pc
Cuz I’d have it shipped
It’s rather far
vale crow
how well does the gtx 1650 hold up
spare relic
Well enough
Decent for 1080p high settings in games probably
For 10 or 20 USD more you can get 1650 Super, which performs even better
150 for 1650 and 160 for 1650 Super
hollow zephyr
^^
1650s is the way to go
but you could spend more on a card with more vram for futureproofing
spare relic
384 more pixel shaders in the 1650 Super
Go to TechPowerup, look at their GPU database and take a look at each GPU's specs
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1650.c3366
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1650-super.c3411
It's enough of a difference to go for the 1650 Super when choosing which one to buy, but imo if you have the regular 1650 you might as well keep it and upgrade to something higher, like the 1660 Super, or something in the 20xx series
5600XT or higher even maybe
I have a GT 730, so I want to upgrade to the GTX 1650 Super
vale crow
i mean i just bought it
i can return it tho
i just need to know if its worth the $20 upgrade and hassle
im kinda new so
spare relic
It could be
Do you want to go through the trouble for 384 more cores, 34 more TMUs, higher clocks, better memory?
vale crow
tbh idk what that stuff mean lmao
spare relic
More performance 
They are numerous items which affect performance of a card
Look each of them up on Wikipedia if you want to know what each of them are ;)
pale talon
@bitter jungle
it's here
it's so gosh darn quiet
it's actually kind of creepy
royal copper
No nitro sad
spare relic
MSI fat card 😳
reef heath
which one is better graphics wise 2070s or 5700xt
spare relic
Yes
reef heath
...
spare relic
It's true
icy phoenix
is the jump from 1080 ti to 2080 ti worth it, or should I wait for the 3000 series?
torpid garden
yes
tired sparrow
@reef heath truthfully 2070s but a 5700xt can be overclocked to the same level if you dont consider raytracing which is hardly used in games rn.
drifting quarry
@icy phoenix Its worth it. You could wait if you wanted to but if you always wait for the next gen of something, you will always be waiting because new stuff comes out so often
reef heath
@tired sparrow how about the dlss 2.0?
tired sparrow
@reef heath I dont think it's a noticable difference at 1080 or 1440p but maybe at 4k do you intend to game at 4k?
tired sparrow
Then truthfully a 5700xt is more than fine for steady frames at 1440p for even brand new games.
I game at 1440p with a 5700xt.
reef heath
hmm i see, thanks 🙂
its just having a temp 80-90 on gpu is a problem and fans going loud
tired sparrow
@reef heath that depends on the aftermarket unit you go with. I run a msi gaming x 5700xt and never go above like 67c and my fans are not even noticeable ofc I also game with headphones.
reef heath
@tired sparrow i use gigabyte which i didnt run into this problem till now. But il just give it a while, maybe its just want some love.
tired sparrow
I would double check my settings and give it a bit of love lol 5700xt isn't a bad card by any means especially at 1440p but I wont tell you the 2070s isn't better because it easily is like 5-10 frames better. For an huge price difference.
compact bison
1080 ti or 2070 super
heavy compass
2070s
bitter jungle
@pale talon
spare relic
Yes
arctic phoenix
I just bought a GTX 980 ti MSI
And the temps are reaching 90 degrees
uhh
How fix
brisk flame
change fan curves
bitter jungle
Thermal paste
sharp trellis
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/707014508446482442/728356273212358758/unknown.png
so my girl just brought this card today, should this card be okay with 75hz monitor? I really dont think she should get 120hz monitor
brisk flame
lmao, that'll do 1080p 240hz ez
bitter jungle
Oh for sure 120/144Hz. At least at 1080p
brisk flame
depending on cpu
sharp trellis
her cpu is ryzen 5 3600
brisk flame
oh yeah, 1080p 240hz is solid
i would say you could get most games that benefit from high refresh rate to hit that
so like csgo and r6s
sharp trellis
you didnt answer my question
bitter jungle
It would be okay with a 75Hz monitor but would be a waste of power
brisk flame
yeah, why bother with 75hz, just get 4k 60 if those are the kinds of games youre looking to play
sharp trellis
She's not a comp, she's casual gamer
brisk flame
then why mention 120hz
sharp trellis
and I dont think she'll really care too much about picture details
bitter jungle
Well why not get 144Hz since your card can handle it?
For 75Hz just get a 1650 super or 1660 super and be over with it. It’s a waste with a 2060
brisk flame
144hz is just a nice to have in general
sharp trellis
well I mentioned 120hz because I think 2060ko would have a issue on 75hz
brisk flame
not at all
bitter jungle
Why would it
sharp trellis
okay thank you guys 🙂
brisk flame
np
bitter jungle
For sure
merry tide
anyone have a 1660 they could recommend not sure if there is a huge difference between the super and the ti (not looking for an rtx card for this build)
bitter jungle
@merry tide get a super. The 1660 is overpriced, and the TI gains very little performance for the price compared to a 1660s.
merry tide
that is what i had seen
building a computer for sibling and about the most advance thing they play is like terraria, so i figured one of those would do fine
merry tide
well she is getting into more games now so i figured it might be safe to get the better card now, plus she does a lot of artwork design
daring linden
hey so i got this rx590 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-590-gv-rx590gaming-8gd-rev-2-0/p/N82E16814932222R?Item=N82E16814932222R and it seems to over heat when the radeon fan profile is set to automatic i set it to manual and for the most part it stays on manual and doesnt overheat but sometimes it goes back to automatic i have 5 case fans is this normal beh and i need more/better case fans or is it defective or software or something? the rest of the build is: ryzen 5 3600, 12gb of ram, and ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus pls pm me i have notifications turned off
buoyant stone
Evga or gigabyte 2070 s?
torpid garden
faint steeple
bitter jungle
tired sparrow
Msi gaming 2080s or evga?
rigid crag
Evga
drifting quarry
S-tier
pale talon
Y'all sure?
EVGA has amazing customer support ngl
But the techpowerup reviews on 2080/Super/Ti cards makes me less than confident about EVGA unless you get the hybrid kits
wicked hound
Pretty sure MSI is quite locked down BIOS wise. Never really heard of MSI being truly good, which is A tier. They're just B for a premium. Unless you plan on XOC BIOS with OC, just get cheap EVGA
drifting quarry
Yes, 100% sure EVGA is god tier
kind wigeon
crude dust
Just dont go EVGA 2080s Black, any of their other 2080s cards should be ok
tardy tapir
wait what about EVGA 2080s? I just bought one for $200 granted the person broke the lock mechanism
Also cant test it considering im slowy getting parts to build a PC but i figured it was worth the risk at that price. Worse case scenerio is I will buy 1 full price on Amazon and sneakily switch out the S/N sticker, and do a return.
brisk flame
offer 60
faint steeple
Ok I’ll try lol
lunar dirge
anybody have a moment to help?
I am upgrading from a 1070 black to a ROG Strix 2080 super, and when I install it, my PC won't boot. The debug code for my MB is 62, which is related to the PCH runtime service. Does this card require both 6+2 power cables to be plugged in?
wary anvil
Yes
lunar dirge
Thanks I will try that
royal copper
You can find a 970 for 70usd
versed osprey
any deals on 2070super?
wary anvil
@versed osprey newegg has deals fairly often
versed osprey
hmmm ok ill go check
royal copper
Deals are hard to find this coronacation
drifting quarry
If you order from newegg, expect to wait a long time before your package is even packaged. I ordered fastest shipping option and my stuff has been in packaging for over a week
arctic phoenix
i ordered an ssd on monday and got it yesterday
maybe you ordered from one of the third party sellers
drifting quarry
"Sold and Shipped by Newegg"
arctic phoenix
hmm then idk
drifting quarry
$2000+ order so maybe the prize has something to do with it, idk
drifting quarry
Coronavirus making it slow maybe idk, Amazon delivers on the date it gives and mine was supposed to arrive a week ago
arctic phoenix
lol Amazon took a month for me
to get me my compressed air
but newegg shipped a day faster than expected
individual sellers idk
lone pond
Was it back-ordered?
drifting quarry
No
drifting quarry
They passed verification and says the products are being collected for packaging, but its said this for the past week
lone pond
Maybe send NeweggService a DM here
drifting quarry
I did
lone pond
Have you tried the LiveChat?
drifting quarry
Yeah, they both said they emailed the IT department to see what is taking so long
lone pond
Maybe IT dept. is ded. Hmm
drifting quarry
Zombie outbreak prolly got the warehouse
I think its something to do with the population fear control coronavirus. But I haven't ordered from Newegg in a while. I know Amazon delivers on time but they also have like, way more employees
lone pond
The way things are going, I would not be surprised if the news suddenly announce a ZO
I usually get stuff from NE sooner than expected. So this sort of stumps me.
drifting quarry
Yeah my last order was fast too but that was a year ago
I wouldn't be asking if they would of shown a prompted message saying orders will be slow AS I put in the order, not after already buying it. And you can't cancel the order to get your money back either, so you're forced to wait. That sucks
sour lintel
wasn't GPU but i made two orders today and both have already shipped, 100% newegg did great
buoyant stone
😂 ordered a gpu took like a week to process... still haven’t gotten it. 3 weeks later
drifting quarry
Order off newegg because product arrives earlier than any other retail store would. Pay for fastest shipping possible. End up waiting twice as long than it would of been ordering off the other retailer with free shipping
@buoyant stone Same boat?
buoyant stone
Yeah pretty much.
lone pond
What GPUs did you both order?
drifting quarry
Got my brother a 2080 ti
buoyant stone
2070 super
drifting quarry
I think the gpu gnome is hoarding gpus in the warehouse
buoyant stone
Lol
drifting quarry
They have to lay out a trap with CUDA cores at night to catch it
lone pond
I wonder if an incoming shipment of GPUs got delayed or something.\
Can you imagine working in a warehouse, surrounded by all these amazing parts?
obtuse sierra
im plannin on building a vr/ streaming pc, im thinking about getting a ryzen 7 3700x, im unsure what graphics card to get though, any suggestions
drifting quarry
At first it would be so amazing but I guess you would get used to being around them
Get a 2070 super I would say
buoyant stone
I would recommend a 2070s or above
obtuse sierra
okay, i was originally looking at aa 2080s anyways but is their a major performance over price difference between the two?
between 2080s and 2070s
drifting quarry
Not really you can use a 2080 with a ryzen 7 3700x
buoyant stone
lone pond
2070 Super would be my recommendation. The priced jump up to a 2080 isn't worth the performance difference, imo
obtuse sierra
thanks for the info!
drifting quarry
Depends on what games you play too
obtuse sierra
i mainly am gonna stick with beat saber
and i plan on overclocking with liquid cooling anyways
buoyant stone
2080s is more looked at for 4K too
drifting quarry
@buoyant stone So you ordered the gpu 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't arrived. Did it pass the "packaging" stage yet though
Mine is still on packaging
buoyant stone
No lol. Had to cancel the order. Took so long to process by the time it did they were out of stock of that 2070s.
Canceled today and will probably buy off of eBay
drifting quarry
How tf did you cancel, mine says ineligible to cancel
Did they tell you that it went out of stock and it let you cancel or what happened
buoyant stone
Never went into shipping/packaging I guess. Also decided to call
drifting quarry
Did they tell you it went out of stock on the phone
buoyant stone
No. I saw it was out of stock on the app/website
drifting quarry
Weird, I ordered other stuff that was IN stock and they haven't arrived either so idk wtf is going on
runic trail
2060S or 2070
arctic phoenix
2060s and upgrade later
hollow zephyr
^^^
runic trail
how come later? @arctic phoenix
hollow zephyr
the new 3000 series is coming out in like sept.
visual roost
Bruh i was playing to get a 2080
lone pond
Worth upgrading from 2070 super to 2080ti?
wary anvil
Wait for next gen @lone pond
drifting quarry
Don't wait for next gen, get upgrade now and also get next gen after seeing benchmarks and reviews on it
hollow zephyr
????
cap
wait for next gen
literally the most cap thing i've heard all day
all these leaks are brazy
plucky cedar
i keep hearing that i should wait until the 30 series comes out before buying a 20 series card, do some prices drop when a new series card comes out?
drifting quarry
If you wait for next gen and buy next gen on day 1, you're insane
If money isn't a problem for you just get an upgrade now, if you're strapped for cash then just wait if you REALLY can wait. If you have money then the only thing in your way is taking the 5 min to swap out the new GPU
marble moth
i havent read anything about the 30 series, is it significantly better than the 20 series?
wary anvil
Looks like it will be
marble moth
what is the price looking like?
plucky cedar
i just want a 2060 yo, but if it will be cheaper in like 3 or so months because a newer card comes out i would rather wait
marble moth
i might have a friend that would want my 1070ti or maybe my brother idk i just need to find it a good home before i replace it
hollow zephyr
@plucky cedar if you feel like waiting then i'd wait but if you can't then try evga mid-week madness
marble moth
what is that @hollow zephyr ?
hollow zephyr
evga has a sale every wednesday where they sell refurbished or returned parts for a nice price
plucky cedar
oh cool never knew about the evga mid week madness, thanks for the heads up. yeah im always waiting or looking for deals so ill wait if it ends up that i will get it cheaper.
hollow zephyr
and they come with a 1-3 years warranty
drifting quarry
@plucky cedar Trust me, don't bother waiting
marble moth
i would do that but i am loyal to msi lol
drifting quarry
S-tier
drifting quarry
Zip ties make the cables bearable to look at
1 single tie and it all comes together
lone pond
msi, the mid-tier company
marble moth
i just shoved all the cables behind everything
drifting quarry
Free advertisement
marble moth
amd>intel
drifting quarry
I'm switching back to AMD soon
marble moth
i will say though... getting a ryzen 9 was a waste of money
drifting quarry
ill always choose Nvidia GPUs over AMD though
drifting quarry
Imagine having a super whale build though, where its like 4 RTX titans and some high end CPU that isn't even on the market and costs like 3 grand
Where you get like 300 fps at 8k but only the 1% has it
drifting quarry
100% companies have tech lined up years ahead, they just pretend to just discover the tech for it. I bet they already have 5 gens of GPUs already lined up
more profit that way
Just little crumbs one at a time
marble moth
yeah im pretty sure everyone does it, from nvidia to the us military lmfao
i actually know 2 people who work at intel so maybe i should ask them lol
drifting quarry
Gonna be talking about 4000 the minute 3000 drops
"leaked" image, but its actually the nvidia CEO taking the pic and leaking it for free advertisement lmao
marble moth
how future proof do you think a 2080 super is?
drifting quarry
Depends on if you want to constantly be playing new titles at 4k ultra on max. If not that, then a pretty long while
long enough to where you can buy the next GPU that NEEDS upgraded
Games still run perfect on 1070s and even under that
polar bronze
My issue is I'm eyeing the samsung Odyssey G9
drifting quarry
Its the same deal with phones. You COULD just buy every single new drop, but its useless
I only got the 2080 ti just because I could, I don't even play games at 4k on ultra most of the time
marble moth
hmm i think ill probably wait until a bit after the 3000 drops, cause honestly the only thing my 1070ti is struggling is overwatch at 1440p
marble moth
and tbh i have no idea why overwatch is screwing my gpu lol
polar bronze
I'll probably get 2 3080tis or whatever the top card is
drifting quarry
Video game companies shadow push hardware requirements in a secret deal with GPU makers to force people into buying new hardware
I heard 3000 series is mostly making improvements to ray tracing
paper isle
hmm
royal copper
Lol
narrow barn
*True Ray Tracing is newer technology, I'd imagine developers are taking time to get it optimized for games.
narrow barn
Haven't seen it in video games prior to like, 2017?
wary anvil
There where games using it experimentally before that, and the technique has been around for longer
narrow barn
Name me a few games prior to 2010 that use Ray Tracing?
wary anvil
I don't know of any games that used it, but games are not the whole world
narrow barn
I'm speaking specifically about video games.
wary anvil
Then say "True hardware ray tracing is new for video games"
narrow barn
So in that regard.. it is new
wary anvil
Yeah, because it came out with RTX cards
Though there were games and applications that used software raytracing before that
And most games have had some amount of reverse ray tracing for quite some time
narrow barn
I'd imagine 3D rendering applications or anything of that nature have used Ray-Tracing, I'm certain.
And reverse ray-tracing?
wary anvil
Basically you start the rays from the players view port and project outwards from there. It's a lot more efficient to render in software than true ray tracing
Basically any older game with decent shadows would likely have been using it
royal copper
Ray/path tracing has been used for years, mostly can be found in movies. But now is the closest we have gotten to doing it in real time enabling us to use it in games. Doing this is real-time is more recent and will take time before it would ever be fully implemented in games, but this can also speed up workflow for creators that use ray/path tracing
normal hawk
hasn't Raytracing also been used for projectiles in games? correct me if i'm wrong
wary anvil
Yeah, a lot of games will use raytracing for projectiles
I'm making a top down space shooter right now, and I have little arrows that point to off screen ships that i place using raytracing
normal hawk
"Until 2013, large scale global illumination was faked with additional lighting for major films. The 2013 Pixar film Monsters University was the first animated film to use ray tracing for all lighting and shading. "
brisk flame
interesting
pale talon
what does it mean if my graphics card makes a buzzing noise while I play games
but it stops as soon as I alt tab to desktop
arctic phoenix
overheating?
pale talon
it would have to be a very specific part of the PCB
the GPU itself sits under 60 at all times
runic trail
do you guys think a 500w psu would be able to hold up a 2700X and 2080 Ti?
wary anvil
It might
You might need to undervolt a bit to make it work
It would probably be best to upgrade the PSU though
runic trail
is 750w overkill for it?
wary anvil
Probably, but nothing wrong with overkill if it's about the same price as non-overkill
wary anvil
Should be
brisk flame
yeah 650w good
wary anvil
It will depend a bit on the rest of the system, but with normal configs, that will be great
brisk flame
3700x and 2080s and the rest of the system uses 500w
peak
slap another 40w for the 2080ti
normal hawk
2700x has bad power usage though
runic trail
because https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KrayyonHD/saved/xkhW3C i'm probably gonna go with that
or would it be better if I removed the HDD, lowered the PSU to 650W to save an extra 20$ and lower the cost of the 1TB SSD and add a CPU cooler
brisk flame
A80 are not as good as they used to be apparently
wary anvil
Heat output will always be less than or equal to power usage
brisk flame
runic trail
oh alright sassy
so should I do what I said or just keep it as the list sassy linked
brisk flame
650w psu is fine
wary anvil
Any reason for that particualt 2080ti?
brisk flame
it just depends on what you can get your hands on when you actually buy things
normal hawk
big upgrade from a 560 to a 2080 ti, I hope it goes well for ya :3
runic trail
thanks percent 😄
and bob, it's because I plan to stream ray tracing
on games like metro exodus
mw
wary anvil
But why that model
normal hawk
2070 Super would be good enough for that tbh.
runic trail
the FE edition?
wary anvil
yeah
runic trail
i forgot what it was but there were some things to be said that is better in the fe edition rather than the partners
and sassy, does it have a warranty?
runic trail
damn newegg is great for deals
wary anvil
I'm not a fan of the FE looks
runic trail
I'm mainly going for the specs
wary anvil
2 fan is a little iffy, but should be fine, right?
brisk flame
you can return it in 30 days, 1 year warranty
if its still working after 1 year, itll keep going for 5 more
as long as you treat it right
runic trail
hmm
wary anvil
Almost 500 from the FE price
runic trail
what will I be losing for going with that one excluding the fact that it's not new
brisk flame
ive been using random used cards from random people on ebay
normal hawk
whats a good software to check my cpu temps?
wary anvil
You will lose nothing
brisk flame
they all still work
runic trail
like all the accessories it'd normally come with will be there in the box?
wary anvil
There are no accesories
brisk flame
yeah, all of the 0 accessories you get with a gpu
runic trail
@normal hawk I use the RTSS that comes with MSI afterburner
does it come with the original box?
wary anvil
You also get RGB
brisk flame
look, you get the card, you have 30 days to overclock and stress test
runic trail
https://www.ebay.com/itm/383533739458 that one's a little more expensive yet it has 3 fans and a 2 year warranty
should I go with that or stick with the evga one
runic trail
yessir
brisk flame
its kinda large tho
wary anvil
Yeah
brisk flame
make sure it fit
wary anvil
I like the gigabyte better
brisk flame
i like buying from wegg anyway
brisk flame
i think the evga one is still the better option
runic trail
how come?
runic trail
wegg
runic trail
alright fine you sold me
brisk flame
thats a big one
runic trail
damn you guys are good at this
brisk flame
wegg is easier to deal with than a random ebay seller over warrenty
wary anvil
wegg
runic trail
you guys are too good at negotiating..
brisk flame
lmao
normal hawk
wait @runic trail this is only for the GPU or at least I don't see the CPU on it lol
wary anvil
No negotiate. Just WEGG
runic trail
this is just an upgrade for me @normal hawk
normal hawk
No I mean MSI afterburner
wary anvil
Who needs a CPU