pretty sure the shaders are also path traced
#graphics-cards
granite juniper
wicked hound
Java is PT without any RTX acceleration
Bedrock is PT with RTX acceleration
granite juniper
o
wary anvil
I think SEUS is adding RTX acceleration
granite juniper
probably but that might take a while
wary anvil
Runs about 50 fps
This is on a 1660s
I think it's scheduled to be ready in a few weeks
bitter jungle
Can I run it on my 650 TI tho? 😳
granite juniper
is that with optifine?
wary anvil
Maybe on lower settings. Yes, with optifine
granite juniper
ic
wary anvil
Who plays minecraft without optifine?
granite juniper
dunno
bitter jungle
Uh
wary anvil
Also a render distance of 32 chunks
wicked hound
Havent tested PT shaders yet. Are they better perf then the ones before?
bitter jungle
Yeah I’m gonna get optifine real quick
wary anvil
yeah, if you have a 650 ti you wanna do that
Optifine can run on a 8650u at 60fps
no dGPU
wicked hound
iirc with my 650Ti boost I never went more then internal shaders with 2x res scaling or smth
actual shaders was too harsh
wary anvil
Banners have a problem right now. Besides that performance is okay
I go from about 300fps to 60fps though at a decent render distance
wicked hound
For me MC just decides to be annoying. No 100% single core usage... or even more then like 70% and no GPU usage at 70%+ either
works fine in other games
So FPS gets a bit worse then I want
wary anvil
I don't usually having it running this pretty. I prefer FPS over the looks
Yeah
It's fun sometimes to turn everything on though
jovial ferry
I normally agree... but it's minecraft
Like who wants 300 FPS in minecraft
30 is fine 🙂
Sildures Extreme Shaders man
wary anvil
I usually have enough shader stuff on that it runs at about 100
wicked hound
no... Input latency is bad on MC
wary anvil
Slidurs doesn't do textures very well though
wicked hound
even on a 60Hz monitor you can still tell the difference between 60fps and 100fps easily
wary anvil
Here's the last screenshot with slidurs
granite juniper
^
wary anvil
Give me a server with some cool stuff built on it for comparisons
jovial ferry
wary anvil
lone pond
dam thats a nice shader
jovial ferry
ikr
wary anvil
Slidurs for the first one, SEUS_Renewed for the second
jovial ferry
thx
wary anvil
jovial ferry
What texture packs you have?
wary anvil
You'll have to make sure the settings in the shader are right for the texture pack
The main reason I use it is the heightmapped textures
It also does the reflections better imo
jovial ferry
Yh
wary anvil
jovial ferry
I like the stone look
formal garnet
What 1660 super should I buy
royal copper
I like evga
arctic bloom
I just bought and installed a 5700xt thicc iii and it's running hot as a mf
anything I can do to reduce that?
granite juniper
the junction or overall?
granite juniper
as long as it has decent ventilation it should be fine
granite juniper
what rpm are the fans at? they might be low and that could cause high temps
granite juniper
it might, but hwinfo64 should tell you. Also was this under gaming/workload or just idle? Cause idle would be pretty bad
i don’t have a amd gpu so dunno, iirc it does
arctic bloom
this was in game
with everything cranked to ultra and no frame cap
so I guess it kinda makes sense
granite juniper
yeah that’s probably pretty demanding, 82 isn’t harmful but not great, you could probably decrease that easily with a fan speed increase or undervolting
rigid crag
That might do it lol
arctic bloom
ok
wary anvil
@formal garnet I have a 1660 super from EVGA. I like it
spare relic
yes
lone pond
We’re you responding to me?
spare relic
yes
spare relic
yes
humble niche
what card is a upgrade from the rx 580? I have been having issues with games crashing
spare relic
I doubt that's a GPU issue
kind wigeon
@humble niche even if it's not and u want to upgrade, what's the budget
spare relic
but if there's evidence then
granite juniper
probably a driver issue
spare relic
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fleet egret
I NEED HELP
I bought this asus rog strix gpu and it needs a power connection to my psu
And I dont know what cable is it
Can someone respond a.s.a.p
granite juniper
should be either a 6 pin, 8 pin, or a combination of them
fleet egret
The connection of gpu is 8 pin
granite juniper
then there should be a cable with 8 pins that came with the psu
fleet egret
There's not
granite juniper
is ur psu modular?
fleet egret
?
granite juniper
can you disconnect the cables from the psu or no
granite juniper
do you know the model or brand of the psu at all?
granite juniper
yeah
fleet egret
K
granite juniper
fleet egret
No its different
arctic bloom
did you figure it out?
merry rune
the 2600 can handle pretty much anything, but budget wise, i probably wouldn't go any higher than like..a 2060 super/5700XT level card
if you just want gaming performance and you don't want to spend a ton, i'd probably go with like a 5600XT or something
quiet jay
ok thanks
merry rune
but if you want to stream as well, nvidia is the better option
kind wigeon
idk if im being stupid here lmao but I know there are aios for cpu cooling, are there any GPUs with liquid cooling built in
granite juniper
yea, and some are just a waterblock for custom loops
and you can grab an g12 and a compatible aio and make your own
merry rune
i know evga had their hybrid gaming cards
with everything already attached
you just mount the rad somewhere
granite juniper
ye
they have their hydro copper line and some other companies like the gigabyte waterforce wb that have the waterblock pre attached
merry rune
yeah, zotac has those too, the arcticstorm line i think
comes with a waterblock out of the box
crude dust
Adding an aftermarket water block is easy as well
granite juniper
yuh the arcticstorm mini was the best for me, looks great and can fit in itx cases
crude dust
I had never added a water block to a video card and took me ~30 mins to take apart and put back together. Should of ran the card first to warm the paste as the heat sink did not want to come off. Once off was amazed at how much paste EVGA had put on. I bet I spent half my time cleaning it up.
humble niche
is a 5600xt a decent card to pair with my cpu?
merry rune
definitely
crude dust
Can see where I couldn’t get their damn paste off
torpid garden
Don't need to clean the paste off of those.
If you really want to, use some alcohol and a toothbrush.
crude dust
That was after a lot of alcohol. They must have used 5oz of paste. Wish I had taken a picture before I cleaned it off
torpid garden
I've done the same on a similar card, it's a lot lol.
real pelican
i really regret buying a 5700xt
giant waste of money, crashes every half hour in-game. have not done driver-only install but I doubt it'll help
hope the rtx 3000 line comes out soon
real pelican
it has been today
sometimes I can go a good few days without crashes, no matter how much gaming I do
other times
it's this
hollow zephyr
rip
limber flax
F
spare relic
grave vapor
@real pelican which rx5700xt did u get?
real pelican
I got the non-aorus gigabyte one. I'll get an exact model in a second
Gv-R57XTGAMINGOC-8GB
@grave vapor
charred spade
You may want to try the driver install, I haven't had any stability issues with mine since the first couple months after launch
Plus it's important to eliminate anything that could potentially be causing the issue no matter how small it may seem
crude dust
@torpid garden why would you wear ppe for taking apart a card it’s not going to prevent static discharge
rare moat
Which RTX card would be best between $450-$600? Im debating 2060S or 2070S but I just want some outside opinions
rare moat
im not really interested in the new 3000s. it will be 4 years before games catch up to them anyway. my 1650 pooped out after we lost power in a rainstorm
torpid garden
So I don't get my grimy hand sweat all over it.
crude dust
Ah lol makes sense
fast axle
im not really interested in the new 3000s. it will be 4 years before games catch up to them anyway. my 1650 pooped out after we lost power in a rainstorm
@rare moat damn... Did you have a UPS?
wanton storm
ooph, i dont know if i would trust the filtering on that PSU at that point. Id open it up and look around at least
typically you probably wouldnt see anything but a power surges is liable to smoke the psu rails or a vrm on the Mobo
bitter marsh
I need help
I have a friend who is having problems with his gpu outputting a signal
The fans spin I had him take out the gpu and put it back in and nothing came from that
The cable works, tv is ok the right input, he used it earlier in the day, and he’s reseated the RAM
@me when someone had a suggestion or DM me
fast axle
Do you have a multimeter?
lone pond
How do i know which graphics card is right for my computer?
wary anvil
What are the rest of the specs? You want to have a GPU thats about the same specs level as the rest of the system
lone pond
I wanted to upgrade the graphics card to handle games better the specs are copied from the website
Processor Type Core™ i5
Processor Model i5-9400
Processor Core Hexa-core (6 Core™)
Processor Speed 2.90 GHz
wary anvil
Can you paste a link to the site? Just take the http part off the front
lone pond
yeah sure sorry
lone pond
Ah okay
wary anvil
Are you okay with getting a new power supply too?
lone pond
yeah
wary anvil
Cool
You might be able to use the one you have right now. We'll see
What sort of a budget do you have?
lone pond
right now around $51 but im trying to work overtime to get more cash
wary anvil
Okay. I'd aim for around 150
lone pond
I'm trying to get a price on the stuff i need to buy
wary anvil
@cerulean rover Would you agree that maybe a 1650 or a 580 would work well here?
The 580 might need a new PSU to go with it though
cerulean rover
wary anvil
The system has a 300W PSU, so too high power and that will need to be replaced
lone pond
Okay I appreciate all the help
wary anvil
NP
wary anvil
Anyone have any idea why there's GPU usage when there's nothing being run on the GPU?
kind wigeon
@wary anvil not sure, I had this problem tho a few months ago, reinstalling java seemed to work
bleak rapids
i have a question, is the rtx 2060 ko the better version of the 2060
which is better
wary anvil
2060 ko is the better version for some things
granite juniper
the 2060 ko has a worse cooler than pretty much every other card, but for workstation tasks its better than the other 2060's
bleak rapids
im all gaming
wary anvil
Then just do 2060
granite juniper
yeah i'd just find the cheapest model available
merry rune
PNY has been around forever, and everything i've had from them has been solid
bleak rapids
oh damn
merry rune
it's probably a sale price
pcpp doesn't show you if it's a sale or not
and it looks like it boosts higher out of the box than some of the others
granite juniper
its a single fan but it shouldnt be bad, probably pretty close thermals to other dual fan cards
merry rune
and the PNY fan is huge
bleak rapids
it looks so damn ugly 
wary anvil
Go for it
Big fan = big airflow
Who cares about looks? Performance is the most important thing
wary anvil
Nah
bleak rapids
id assume the bigger it is the more it has
merry rune
no it looks like they specifically used a bigger fan to move more air, because single fan designs are usually hindered by worse airflow
but single fan with bigger fan = comparable to dual, smaller fans
bleak rapids
and ive never heard of the brand
what if the sale or wtv it is goes off
oh damn nvm its not even on sale
its 240 flat
bestbuy
merry rune
make sure it's the 2060, they also have a 1660S with a similar design for sale at best buy
but PNY has been around since like, the 80s
and they also supply a lot of cards to OEMs like dell, HP, etc
merry rune
so if you get an OEM branded card in your alienware system or whatever, there's a chance that it's just a PNY with out their branding on it
bleak rapids
ok now that i have that should i settle for a r5 3600
merry rune
the 3600 is pretty much the sweet spot right now for ryzen as far as price/performance goes. if you don't NEED anything that's more of a heavy hitter, the 3600 will do you really well
bleak rapids
its not overkill?
merry rune
i just built my system with a 2600 in october of last year and i'm thinking about swapping in a 3600 lol, just to push the eventual big upgrade further out
no, it's not overkill at all
merry rune
yeah the 3600 will last you a while if you're coming from an FX system
bleak rapids
suprisingly no complaints, just want 144 hertz
merry rune
i was on an FX-8350 before and i went to the 2600, but at that point last year, the 3600 was a lot more expensive
with it coming down to where it is now, it's the one to get
merry rune
nope, asking questions is part of how you learn a lot of this stuff
and then next time someone else asks, you can help answer 😛
bleak rapids
im the worst at being decisive and smart on choices
ill just go into differnt categories lmao
thanks
bleak rapids
im still speculating on getting this gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZprYcf/pny-geforce-rtx-2060-6-gb-xlr8-gaming-overclocked-edition-video-card-vcg20606sfppb-o
theres like no reviews
rich oasis
@bleak rapids https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fb6d7T
rich oasis
The 2060 is alot worse than a 5700xt if you don't stream
bleak rapids
alot?
bleak rapids
yes golden
rich oasis
sorry yes 5700 is better than the 2060
bleak rapids
its cuz its also 100+ dollars
rigid crag
If you want it to catch on fire its 40
bleak rapids
oh ik
rich oasis
anyone have the blown up psu photo
rich oasis
ye ussally 100 is normal
bleak rapids
jesus
and btw im not a high quality gamer
im more competitive more frames less input lag etc
and according to this video
its not much of a difference
especially for like 70 dollars
rich oasis
That might before the driver updates
bleak rapids
and this is what my list is looking like atm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqzRtp
any changes?
real pelican
mm, look up reviews for that power supply to make sure it's good but it looks fine
as far as my issues with my 5700xt, i extracted the installer to install the drivers via device manager. d2 is the game I've been having the most crashes in lately so I'm testing there
still wanna get a 3080 or something though
if only for that sick stock cooler
opaque heath
Use driver 20.2.2 for your card.
upper mural
3080 likely will be like 1500$
Ill be happy to move up to a 2080 super when they drop
narrow barn
warped sable
1500?!
wicked hound
GT 3030 should be $15,000 USD. It's just standard inflation.... 100% standard inflation and nothing else
spare relic
charred tree
delicate osprey
Does anyone have positive feedback on Radeon RX590 Fatboy? 8GB
torpid garden
nope
orchid loom
I have a 570 4GBs
lone pond
Should i get the 5700xt or 2070super im only debating because the 5700xt is $100 cheaper
rich oasis
@lone pond if ur streaming go nividia if not go amd
austere monolith
@lone pond Try UserBenchmark to decide which is best for you at this moment.
rancid flint
@lone pond If you're just gonna be gaming and not streaming and you don't need ray tracing for anything then go amd
dim gorge
What graphics card do I need if I am going to be playing mainly games?
And it’s about €200
summer crane
used or new?
dim gorge
New
summer crane
if new rx580
dim gorge
Alright thanks
summer crane
k
dim gorge
Ok building PCs are cheaper than pre built
summer crane
ys
kind wigeon
@dim gorge that's generally the case, but you can find some nice prebuilts that would actually be more expensive to buy: 2 years ago, I got a iBuyPower prebuilt, RTX 2080, i7-8700k, win 10 pro, 32 GB ram, etc etc, whole system was 1350
dim gorge
oh
dim gorge
That was a hell of a deal
lone pond
Especially since the 2080 was only released 20 months ago.
final palm
I need a better pc so bad
solemn panther
Don't we all
normal hawk
Lol
arctic phoenix
amzon
ember remnant
Can The 3700x handle the new GPU’s coming out ? Like the 3080
normal hawk
Yes
Only ones I think would be iffy would be 1st Gen ryzens. And the quad cores aside from the 3300x for the 3080. (Unless you're only playing at 1080p)
Not to familiar with Intel though
neon sparrow
I need help, so I’m building a pc and I’m planning on getting a gpu with ray tracing which is the most affordable/cheapest one I can get?
normal hawk
Well the 1060 and up support raytracing, just without the dedicated RT cores.
I'd suggest the 2060 super if you can't wait for October when the new gpu's will probably drop.
If you can wait, I'd suggest getting the 1660 super now. And waiting for the new gpu's to worry about the dedicated RT cores
neon sparrow
Ok thank you so much I was also planning on getting a ryzen 5 1600 cpu bc I’m kinda on a budget
Do you suggest I get something better
normal hawk
What's your budget? And when are you ordering?
neon sparrow
I can order anytime but my budget for now is like 600 - $700
normal hawk
Yea, I'd get the 1600.
neon sparrow
Ok thanks man I also am planning on getting 16 gigs of ram but want a motherboard that can support 4 sticks so like the b450 tomahawk or the b450m pro4 so I can up it since I do video editing but those motherboards upped so much in price
crude dust
If you can wait for the new motherboards to come out demand will go down on the b450 series and prices should go back more towards normal
normal hawk
I got a msi b450m pro m2 max for like 70$ on Amazon warehouse deals to build my brothers pc.
Was an open box unused due to warehouse error lol
crude dust
Thats a great deal
neon sparrow
Oh damn that’s actually a hella good deal
crude dust
If you live in the US check Microcenters website they often have open box items quite cheap
neon sparrow
Ok thanks for the info I actually didn’t know that
crude dust
Can find some cool stuff since they sell more than just pc stuff, we got a 48" 4k tv there open box 3 years ago for $350
Before covid I would just go there often to walk around and look, but it is very dangerous on the wallet being that close to so many pc deals
They had a 2080ti evga copper hydro for 1199 and I was very tempted to buy it but I resisted to wait for a 3080ti
neon sparrow
That’s a smart move I also wanna just wait on my brother to upgrade his psu and gpu just so I can take his but he keeps telling me that he does and doesn’t wanna upgrade lol he’s kinda bipolar when it comes to his pc
crude dust
I will hand my gpu down to my wife when I upgrade, she doesn't really play anything super demanding so a 1660ti in her stimulus build worked good for her
lone pond
yo whats better, a 1660ti or 2060 super
dire epoch
@lone pond For Gaming or Rendering?
lone pond
gaming
dire epoch
I'd go with th 2060 super, if you're able to. If not get the KO
lone pond
ok
dire epoch
KO is the best bang for your buck when it comes to 2060's
dire epoch
Ooof, I've also been looking into the 2070 super. I'd suggest the EVGA 08G-P4-2072-KR RTX 2070 Super KO
Again, best bang for your buck
mint dirge
Hi, I used PC Part Picker to put a build together and picked a PSU that was appropriate for the estimated wattage with some wiggle room (Estimate of ~337w, I went with a 500w). My Nvidia GTX 2060 super arrived today and I was checking out the bottom of the box and it said to use a minimum 550W psu. Is there a reason PPP's wattage estimate is off? WOuld my 500w PSU really be okay with a 550w-recommended GPU installed?
wary anvil
Got it in build chat
glad saffron
I know for performance the 2060 super would be best but for the sake of being paired with a ryzen 5 3600 should I do a 1660ti / 2060 / 2060 super?
Plz do a mention if you can give some help to this. I won't see it otherwise til like 530am due to being at work Thx!
crude dust
@glad saffron its very hard for me to justify suggesting anyone buy any RTX card right now when the next gen is going to drop very soon and not too many games using ray tracing right now that are really worth buying a RTX card for. I would get the 1660ti save the rest of my $ and then upgrade to the 3000 series when it drops in the next couple of months
glad saffron
Thx man. This build is gonna be my main thing for a while. When I get the money I'm going to do a overhaul with a new gen ryzen chip, a new mobo, and the new graphics card
@crude dust and I only asked for the suggestion cause I wasn't going to use the card for raytracing. I was looking for a good performing match up to go with my 3600
crude dust
1660ti is a good card my wife uses it with a 3600. She mainly plays Elder Scrolls Online and it handles all the other cheesy games she plays without issue.
glad saffron
Cool. Thx man
sonic holly
Hey guysss
I need some very quick help if anybody can?
Please ping me when your response <3
Nvm
prisma mesa
would a 1080 bottleneck a r5 2600x
summer crane
Ti?
wicked hound
Yes, also no. No matter what computer it is it'll have a bottleneck depending on the scenario
cosmic frigate
5700 XT or 2070?
Just gaming I would get a 5700XT but I want someone else’s thoughts
rigid crag
If your just gaming than ya, I'd get a 5700xt
upper mural
But man. If your going after a nicer 5700 that costs like 450$ then your better off just getting a 2070 super.
open crystal
upper mural
I was looking at the Gigabyte 2080 super Windforce today. Has anyone else noticed the white version is 100$ cheaper?
upper mural
Id love to see someone’s pics of a white card in a mostly black build
I’m really thinking of pulling the trigger
upper mural
Gigabyte b550 Aorus Pro, Be Quiet 500dx, red psu extensions, cooler master 240l v2. I got a whole cluster of RGB and conflicting stuff 😅
Hopefully all that will sync. I think it does so far
bitter jungle
Well some people like messy builds like that
upper mural
As far as I can tell I can match up the colors on every component I listed
bitter jungle
I did a build a long time ago with a green label PSU, a black case, blue LEDs, a brown motherboard, a silver cooler, a red GPU, ketchup and mustard cables... and it looked pretty good
upper mural
I’m just going for that gold 500dx look on black. That’s why I’m wondering if the white gpu would clash
Taichi would look epic......
bitter jungle
I guess it’s possible. If you have RGB fans/strips color from those will illuminate the graphics card so even if you get white you can make it look slightly like a different color
Taichi is such a cool looking lineup
lament stag
What’s the best vertical gpu mount for a 2070 super in a Thermaltake v200?
upper mural
Check to see if the case supports it first. Then get the one from the manufacturer if they sell one so you know it fits . My case doesn’t support it for instance
lament stag
Ok I’ll check thanks
bitter jungle
Okay so the GTX 670 I got for a really cheap PC flip is a blower model and getting to about 95c. I stripped a screw on it so i can't open it up. Is there a way to make is less hot? Undervolting it maybe?
I have a dell mobo too so anything I do can't be via the BIOS
split girder
@bitter jungle cut a slot in the screw with a dremel and get it out... chances are if it is stripped it's not in all the way and the heatsink is gapped...
split girder
if it's not a solid contact then you can't dissipate the heat and the card will fry anyway
does the heatsink get hot?
bitter jungle
Well 95c is a totally fine temperature. It's actually stable at about 93c. I'm gonna dust the blower fan real quick, I just wanted to know if there was a different way to get it a little less hot. Again, my temps are fine, I just wanted to know if there was a way
split girder
the only other thing you can do is to feed cold air into the machine
bitter jungle
I have one intake 120mm and one 80mm exhaust.
bitter jungle
Uh
Again, I know my temps are fine
Well 95c is a totally fine temperature. It's actually stable at about 93c. I'm gonna dust the blower fan real quick, I just wanted to know if there was a different way to get it a little less hot. Again, my temps are fine, I just wanted to know if there was a way
and the blower has some dust in it. I'm gonna take a can of compressed air to it and see if that helps.
split girder
did it cost 20$?
bitter jungle
Little more than that
split girder
what games do you play on it?
bitter jungle
It's for a PC flip
The temps reached that high when I was running a Furmark stress test
split girder
well, if you can't pull the blower out to clean it, then it's going to stay hot
bitter jungle
ah okay then
I'll see if there's another way to pull it off to clean it
cause this is a wack card to pull apart
split girder
ooo, blocks links... damn
that was a replacement blower, so you know what it looks like
on ebay item number 174194262095
bitter jungle
um what?
split girder
do you know what the blower looks like? it has to come out to clean the start of the airflow channels
that is what gets clogged with dirt/dust... is the start of the metal channels
split girder
if you can get eh shroud off, you can clean it... those might be single piece
bitter jungle
ik there are sdome screws on the side. I'll try those
*some
ah my screwdriver is just a little too big to unscrew them smhmh
it's my smallest screwdriver too
bitter jungle
Uh could I maybe undervolt it a little?
Anybody know how I could go about doing that?
Cause it's chilling at 94c now
warped carbon
can a EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 do rtx?
jovial ferry
Nope, it's not an RTX card, it's a GTX card
warped carbon
"DXR"
warped carbon
Ive got a 1060 3gb, and would go to a 1660 only if it does i guess "DXR"
jovial ferry
Looks like it's legit, but I wouldn't expect it to do it well
warped carbon
me neither... but minecraft rtx came out in beta and im excited
warped carbon
same! but... rtx
pretty sexy...
i think i dunno havent tried it yet with minecraft
welp anyways i found another link that listed the 1660. so yay!!
warped carbon
noooo...
the graphics card there i was gonna get has a picture with a quote saying "Minecraft RTX on a GTX 1660 Super? Sorry, no ray tracing for you!"
but then again?
dreamy dragonBOT
SaturnDestiny#3172 has been warned
wary anvil
Sometimes it picks up somestuff that it shouldn't
a a a a a a a a a a a
And sometimes it doesn't pick up duplicated text
dreamy dragonBOT
BobLaserShark#3820 has been warned
boreal turret
E e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
wary anvil
Don't know why
jovial ferry
https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/nvidia/148279-what-is-ray-tracing-and-what-hardware-and-games-support-it
@warped carbon as requested
warped carbon
big mcthankies!
faint portal
Anyone know where i could get a used gtx 1660 for around 150?
wary anvil
You can probably get a new one for that price if you wait for sales on newegg, I got my 1660s for ~190
faint portal
Oooo time to wait then
lone pond
Does anyone know where I can find a used rtx 2060 for a decent price
grave siren
microcenters prob
crude dust
Yeah if you have a local microcenter they have some on sale right now
You looking for 2060 vanilla, super or ti?
grave siren
but tbh u should wait for after corona to buy stuff
boreal turret
You looking for 2060 vanilla, super or ti?
@crude dust is 2060 ti a thing now?
crude dust
no lol just trying to get more info about what they want so I can find a cheap card
boreal turret
Oh ok
loud ledge
I looked at my EVGA card a little closer it had thermal paste on the backplate from the factory
crude dust
Yeah EVGA seems to apply a little too much thermal paste
after lots of rubbing alcohol couldn't get the contacts on the side ever clean, thanks EVGA
faint steeple
they are just being generous
crude dust
I wish I took a before pic but there was enough paste for 3 cards
torpid garden
It won't hurt anything
Adequate mounting pressure + non-conductive/capacitive TIM = non issue
Just a mess
loud ledge
:)
wary anvil
I have a card like that 🙂
loud ledge
Next step voodoo graphics
brisk flame
loud ledge
Lol you a egghead 🤣
My GeForce 4 had a cooler but the fan was screaming
Bearing was beyond toast
brisk flame
lol
crude dust
I know it won’t @torpid garden just annoys me to no end for it to not be clean
crude dust
Oh well that will be nice for the future. Have always used isopropyl alcohol.
torpid garden
Iso is fine, this stuff is just convenient and sprays out with enough pressure to clean off any gunk.
lone pond
Does anyone have a opinion on the 1650 super? I’m a first time builder and I ordered it a couple days ago just want to see what people think!
crude dust
@torpid garden I should of put some alcohol on and then turned the Datavac on that would of blown it off for sure :p
@lone pond its a good card for its price, what type of gaming do you do?
crude dust
Hmm haven't used that card myself but found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4BFMmFOurQ real fast, not sure what cpu he has but its 4 cores seems to be always 35fps with the settings he chose
normal shell
BRUH
near slate
I was gonna get a sapphire pulse but at that point i just got a gigbyte 2070 super windforce oc
crude dust
@orchid loom when you take it apart to put a water block on yes. Should never reuse thermal paste.
wanton storm
@crude dust if the residual thermal paste on those caps bothers you, use a qtip and goo-gone. it will take it right off. Then some rubing alcohol will get rid of the film goo gone leaves.
is that an evga 2080? it seems like its almost full of the power phases
crude dust
Yeah it’s an EVGA 2080s black gaming card.
wanton storm
sigh, well looks like ill be checking my card. thanks for the heads up!
unborn sedge
I have an nvidia quadro 4 from 2002 or so
Bought it for 2€ at a thrift store so I can say I own a Quadro.
unborn sedge
nope
kind wigeon
unborn sedge
I don't have anything to test it with.
kind wigeon
whats the interface?
unborn sedge
hm not sure. I can check when I get home in a few hours.
It says Quadro4 NVS and some number on the die
Quadro4 200 NVS
@kind wigeon
spare relic
looks like AGP
kind wigeon
*if you get any updates
unborn sedge
oh okay I was going to ask lol
spare relic
hey that thing has two fewer TMUs compared to my All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro4-200-nvs.c1458
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/all-in-wonder-radeon-7500.c863
unborn sedge
It's recommended for 1440p gaming, nice.
Should replace my 1660S with it.
1660S currently driving three monitors, 1080p@66Hz, 1080p@75Hz, and a CRT at 77Hz.
spare relic
unborn sedge
I'm sure the Quadro can do that and much more.
spare relic
unborn sedge
Anything I could do with it?
I have a bunch of old PCI cards like that.
There's an ATI one that came with a fan and has a DVI out.
unborn sedge
I meant for computing stuff lol
spare relic
Bitcoin
unborn sedge
I run a Minecraft server from an old laptop mobo.
gpu accelerated Minecraft server?
unborn sedge
lol with that GPU yeah
but it's a Quadro!!!!111
been thinking of modding the default mc server client to use multi cores
how hard could it be
spare relic
😳
wary anvil
It does already use multiple cores
unborn sedge
like two cores only
GPU acceleration is usually only when you can split a task into tons and tons of threads.
So a thread per ray on a raytracer, for example.
wary anvil
I've seen it running 20 or 30 threads. GPU also requires each thread to be doing roughly the same thing though
unborn sedge
not really afaik
At least what I've done in the past hasn't necessarily have had to have each thread do the same thing.
wary anvil
You don't need to, but the way the GPU is designed you get the best performance from having clusters of threads all executing the same instructions. Having individual threads each doing their own thing and you start running into divergence issues, and the utilization of the GPU tanks
unborn sedge
ah makes sense
slender sky
What's the difference between the 2060 ko and 2060 ko ultra
granite juniper
ko ultra has a slightly higher clock speed out of the box
granite juniper
they have the same cooler
torpid garden
Fahrenheit 
slender vigil
My dad changed that to it because he hates Celsius lmao
Anyways I got lucky with the chip and I'm still overclocking it
wary anvil
I though intel let you oc all 10th gen?
grave siren
is this a good pc parts list? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Bucklingxd/saved/CWWkXL
also i might change the cpu to amd ryzen 5 3600 and the gpu to a 2070 super
wary anvil
@grave siren You could maybe save a bit on the SSD and a lot on the motherboard. You don't really need the extra fans (The case comes with three)
Other than that, looks good
grave siren
ok
wary anvil
If you only do gaming, 3600+2070s will probably be your better bet
wary anvil
Yeah
wary anvil
2070s shoulf take most of the streaming load pretty easy
wary anvil
Yeah
grave siren
k
wary anvil
Most games won't benefit from the extra cores, but 2060s to 2070s is a big boost
grave siren
thx for all your help
wary anvil
You're welcome. Best of luck!
grave siren
last question sry but should i also include 2 top fans?
or just have one rear fans and 3 front fans?
wary anvil
The four fans it comes with should be good
wary anvil
Where?
torpid garden
Only one post per minute counts for levels.
boreal turret
Wait fr
wary anvil
Yup
grave siren
i dont think it does
wary anvil
One post per minute
boreal turret
So if I just set up a bot to say hi once a minute then I'm set?
grave siren
cause i spammed and after a few words i got like a few xp
wary anvil
Trust the mod and the documentation on mee6's site. One post a minute
grave siren
k
wary anvil
So if I just set up a bot to say hi once a minute then I'm set?
@boreal turret No
That is bad idea
boreal turret
merry rune
bob got his rank pulled because he did something kinda like that, don't be like bob 😛
grave siren
🍆 🤏 @boreal turret
torpid garden
Your rank never changes, but we can add/remove roles manually.
wary anvil
^
torpid garden
lol
wary anvil
I have gotten roles pulled I think three times so far
merry rune
sounds about right
boreal turret
Wait how come he gets to be all ranks at once but I can only be current rank and rookie
torpid garden
I just added them all to take a funny screenshot
boreal turret
Oh
wary anvil
Once for trying to level up with spam, once for an epyptian hyroglyph, and once for accidentally pinging theo
merry rune
i like being golden + rookie, it's like, i'm the best of the rookies
wary anvil
I'm an eggheaded rookie
boreal turret
I'm just regular 
faint steeple
@granite juniper by big cooler I meant the Ultra is just cooler than the regular lol
paper breach
Radeon rx 5500 vs GTX 1660 Super... is GTX worth the extra $50? Im completely clueless
hollow zephyr
yes
arctic phoenix
Yep
upper mural
thoughts on this bad boi?
crude dust
Why spend that and not get a 2080s? https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-08g-p4-2083-kr/p/N82E16814487498?item=N82E16814487498&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+card+-+nvidia-_-N82E16814487498&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkNTGipKF6gIVkobACh3LygDKEAQYASABEgJS6vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
dur I swear that said it was a 2070
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-rtx-2080-super-xc-hybrid/4 shows a similar evga has pretty good temps
Thats the evga but the same 120mm style cooler so thermals should be very close to that
upper mural
i mean. im ok with watching it a while and pulling the trigger in a few months.. I really like how the MSI looks. So if they have the same performance I would pick MSI
crude dust
Looking it up seems to be a pretty good 2080 board https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-rtx-2080-super-sea-hawk-x.b7385
upper mural
The reviews are awsome on both so far
misty vessel
im getting insane clock speeds on my strix 2080ti oc
misty vessel
2160MHz max, will sit around 2100
upper mural
thats 1200$ compared to 730$ u get maybe a 12% performance increase
misty vessel
yeah, i just finished tweaking it.. my scores were overwhelming today. Spent 3 hours on 3d mark
yeah, i bought it a year ago.
crude dust
lol post up a link lets see how your tuning did
merry rune
you level up as you chat, level 3 is where you can post links
merry rune
you can check levels in #ranks-and-levels or just when you see your name change color to bright teal, you've leveled up enough, just fyi
misty vessel
yeah i was looking at that earlier
upper mural
Im still running my I7-6700k with gtx 1070.. MSI Nightblade prebuilt.. Just started my first PC build. Hopeing i can still sell my old one for a gooder amount
misty vessel
hopefully!
upper mural
Its still damn good.. prolly still better then entry level stuff
misty vessel
I built this pc a year ago with the mind to not have to upgrade for a few years.
you can see my case if you scroll up in the build-pics page
upper mural
YA my current plan is B550 Aurous Pro, Ryzen 7 3700x, and then a good gpu. I really cant decide yet if i should just go with (good enough) in 2070 super, or future proof with 2080 super
misty vessel
hard choice,
upper mural
Im aiming for the 3 year lifspane
upper mural
well man... guys like me dont want to spend 1k plus.. but we want high end.. So my thought process of course runs will 2080s drop in price in October
I could see myself playing on a gtx 1070 until then just fine
misty vessel
hey man i was on a 1060 6gb for years before this, I understand you. Waiting until October is a great idea.
misty vessel
lol..
spare cipher
Anyone know if a RX550 would work on a Lenovo.i hurd Lenovo white lists graphics cards and im just wondering before i pick up one.
fluid valley
Anyone have suggestions of a GPU (Nvidia) to go with a Ryzen 5 2600?
I have a price range of about 200 dollars
wintry imp
1660/1660 super @fluid valley
would be the best I think
Anyone know if it’s worth it to get gpu warranties
?
fluid valley
Unless it’s cheap with a godlike chipset or really used, no
@wintry imp
Usually one isn’t needed since they almost always last longer than the warranty states
wintry imp
hm alright
loud ledge
Godlike chipset wdym
wintry imp
I’ve heard about people’s GPUs randomly powering off and never turning back on
Am I screwed of something like that happens
loud ledge
That never happened to me
wintry imp
hm alright
loud ledge
@wintry imp it's extremely rare
wintry imp
And you know if I’m able to post to bios without plugging in the cpu fan
Ok that’s really good to know
outer jetty
just plug in the cpu fan
dreamy dragonBOT
Alpaca#6105 has been warned
wintry imp
I got a b450m and if the bios is not updated
I gotta use the rent a cpu thing from amd
loud ledge
Huh
wintry imp
Ryzen cpus come with fans
and pre applied thermal paste
Oh wait I’m dumb
nvm
ignore what I asked
fluid valley
Godlike chipset wdym
@loud ledge Like an rtx 2080 ti for like 100 bucks
loud ledge
Godlike is a me is Quadro RTX, newer, TITAN RTX or any newer Titan
wide kernel
i cant wait for the 2090 graphics card
wicked hound
Pascal was 16nm and Turing was 12nm...
granite juniper
also just because its like half the manufacturing node size doesnt mean its going to be twice as powerful
wicked hound
Esp when manufacturing size isn't transistor size
strange depot
I mean you're not wrong, Pascal came with either 16 and 14nm. and Turing- excerpt from wiki "The RTX 20 series is based on the Turing microarchitecture and features real-time hardware ray tracing.[7] The cards are manufactured on an optimized 14 nm node from TSMC, named 12 nm FinFET NVIDIA (FFN)."
cosmic frigate
AMD runs on 10 NM for their GPUs though, right?
strange depot
the main problem with amd gpu are the software moreso than the hardware
fair venture
@fluid valley you could go for a used or refurbished Gtx 1070 for $200. faster than 1660 and 1660S by a decent amount, and cheaper.
@fluid valley A used Vega 56 is also nice for about the same price of $200; although sometimes you can get them cheaper. The Vega 56 is also a little faster than the 1070.
mellow kiln
Vega 56 is a lot faster than 1070, 1660s is about the same as 1070
cobalt summit
People are saying I wasted my money buying a rtx 2060 but I have a budget and that made its way through
mellow kiln
rtx 2060 is enough for 1080p high for next 5 years, I think at $300 it really is a steal
granite juniper
that’s just the ko model
hollow zephyr
ii just assumed he bought that one
cobalt summit
@hollow zephyr just some random people in a discord server because I was asking about a processor
hollow zephyr
they some losers
its a worthwhile investment
yeah the new parts may be wayyy better but you can run a lot of games on high settings with that gpu
cobalt summit
I had a budget like my parents made me pay for it
cobalt summit
so its not like I can go spend a lot
scenic glen
I've a question, for those with 20 series GeForce cards.
Have any of you had DisplayPort issues?
hollow zephyr
i run amd 
charred spade
@cobalt summit you made a fine choice man 2060 is a great card
Especially for mid range budget
cobalt summit
thanks
scenic glen
2060 Reg or Super?
scenic glen
Nice.
cobalt summit
I'm going to be upgrading after quarantine
scenic glen
From what to a what?
cobalt summit
AMD Radeon 240 R7
scenic glen
....It....hasn't been nice yet.
cobalt summit
Can you make any pc case water cooling
scenic glen
You 'can', but it might not be worth it.
rare moat
im debating 2060S or 2070S mostly do i spend the extra money for higher end gpu and run more games at higher fps or save money and be fine with most games at 100+ fps
scenic glen
The reason why I asked if anyone had a 20 series is because I'm having DisplayPort problems.
My 1050TI has no problems with my DisplayPort to HDMI cable, but my 2070S' DPs will only work during boot up.
scenic glen
Well, if you run dual monitor, and you arn't using DPs, then you might not want to buy a 2060 or a 2070.
rare moat
whats the big improvement over HDMI?
scenic glen
I've no idea. I guess it handles higher resolutions and framerates?
rare moat
ive only got 1 monitor
kind wigeon
@rare moat dp and usb-c transfer information faster than hdmi, so you can get higher res, frame rates, and also transfers information better: ex your monitor has usb ports, and you connect via usb-c: information travels faster.
rare moat
interesting
kind wigeon
for anything above 1080p120 higher, I'de reccomend usb-c or dp
for example, I have a 4k90 monitor, that a hdmi cable will not get above 57 hz... a dp won't get me more than 79, and usb-c gets me all the way to 90
but since most people run 1080p60, they would go hdmi
for a gamers res, 144 hz, 240, 300, @ 1080p you definitely have to go dp or usb-c
altho most displays don't support usb-c... yet
rare moat
im running 1080p75hz on hdmi
kind wigeon
ur fine
hdmi can do that ez unless its rlly crappy
the cable that is
the one that came with the monitor should do it
rare moat
would a DP cable do anything for me? or would there be no difference?
kind wigeon
and also, addressing your earlier scenario, if u have a 75hz monitor, u don't need to get over 75 fps
no difference probably
why do you want to switch?
is there a problem rn?
coarse garnet
freesync supports on all dp
kind wigeon
well I can actually give you some refernece @rare moat
coarse garnet
but only some monitors have freesync over hdmi
kind wigeon
go to display settings, check the hertz
if it's not @ 75, then you need a better cable, or its not a 75 hz monitor
coarse garnet
but freesync hdmi is becoming more common now
boreal turret
Whenever my fps drops to around 100 I can feel it even tho I have a 60hz monitor
rare moat
reading as 74hz
kind wigeon
g snyc gang
@boreal turret thats why people cap their fps, bc its not the actual resolution, its the sudden change of frames aligned with screen refresh
if u have a 60 hz monitor, cap it at 60 to avoid that
rare moat
im running the ASUS VP278 75hz 1080p 27" IPS monitor
boreal turret
No I mean like it feels worse when I cap it then when I let it be free
coarse garnet
ofc
because more frame = less input lag
even tho the fps is higher than your monitor's refresh rate
rare moat
eventually id like to get a 144hz monitor
boreal turret
Oh ok
coarse garnet
i'll call it hz from now on bc I'm lazy typing
rare moat
TN is preferred for gaming monitor wise right?
coarse garnet
no
TN is preferred for high fps gaming
but IPS nowaday can offer the same perf
with better color
kind wigeon
@boreal turret I meant cap it at your average fps, not your max hz sry
Anything you can do to keep fps steady, do that
boreal turret
Ok ty
kind wigeon
Bc it's the change in fps that screws you over, not the lack of frames
@boreal turret btw what specs r u running
boreal turret
Ty, tho I was pretty dumb ngl I spent like 1700 on that
I definitely went for form over function and I regret it
tame knoll
same here @boreal turret
i could have definitely spent it way differently on my first build
gilded pebble
faint steeple
@gilded pebble wait on 3000 series to drop and watch prices drop a lil bit
and I think unless u want to do 1440p gameplay I think the 2060S should be good enough
loud ledge
2070 super!!
faint steeple
yea the 2070 super is really good but I think the salt&vinegarchips should wait until the 3000 series drops for price drops
loud ledge
People keep telling me it released which that bunch of bs
faint steeple
nah its supposed to release in September or something like that
loud ledge
I hate trollers 😆
frigid hound
What is a good gpu for a budget build
faint steeple
@frigid hound the 1660 Super is great value
thats around $220-$270 USD
but if you are looking for lower budget, what is your budget?
desert nest
is there any gpu's better than asus strix 2060 super?
rapid basin
dreamy dragonBOT
! EMP Ξ ⌬ setato ⌬, that command is disabled in this channel.
coarse garnet
is there any gpu's better than asus strix 2060 super?
@desert nest gaming x version from msi
runic trail
Is the MSI Titanium model of the 1070 Ti good for over clocking?
lone pond
Is a 1650 super good enough for VR
jovial ferry
It wouldn't run very well
If you want a good experience on something like a vive headset I would go for a 1070 or higher
1660 ti would be the very minimum I would put in a VR rig
cerulean eagle
!rank
dreamy dragonBOT
cripstian, that command is disabled in this channel.
dense bison
@jovial ferry I would never recommend buying a 1660ti
the 5600xt is just better
also i'm pretty sure that a 1650s could run vr just not great
but i'm pretty sure that u will b able 2 hit 60fps
idk watch some benchmark vids
jovial ferry
It wouldn't run very well
Never said it wouldn't run, I just wouldn't advise it
And I'm still not super familiar with AMD GPUs, so fair enough
I would doubt that you could get 60 fps on a 1650 in and decent game on a good quality headset. Could be wrong, but I would be very surprised.
rich oasis
@jovial ferry didnt ltt do it in half life alex and said it was t half bad?
jovial ferry
That was with a 1650 ti and it barely hit the minimum specs in vrmark
He was asking about the super
Also I think that vive [I use a vive pro on a 1070 with OK performance] has higher resolution, so you may get by if you use a cheaper headset
buoyant stone
What brand of the 2070 super do you guys recommend?
loud ledge
EVGA 2070 Super Ultra is very good@buoyant stone
autumn abyss
EVGA step up takes the cake. Buy whatever card you can afford and if it isn't enough they give you 90 days to upgrade.
dry monolith
Guys what are the risks in buying a GTX 1070 that was mining for a year 
molten gust
hey guys is it worth to go from a 2060 to a 1080 ti for that extra bit of performance? or should i just wait for 30 series
lone pond
I'd wait
gilded roost
@lone pond I have an Oculus Rift S with a 1050 ti. It runs good enough for 90% of the games. The 1650 on specs is better than the 1050 ti so in theory you should be able to run more than 90% of all the games and have an enjoyable experience.
rich oasis
@jovial ferry Idk if anyone buys the non supers anymore your just getting extra perf for very little extra
I think it was the super though
No sorry they tested a 1060 and a 1650s is either comparable or better imo
lone pond
@gilded roost do you play FNAF VR by any chance?
gilded roost
No, we haven't. Sorry.
lone pond
It's my brother's oculus that he uses on my pc and that's the game he always plays
So he was gonna get one for himself for his b day
It's ok though I think I got a part list
fleet basin
boreal turret
Probably
drowsy kiln
think that could work
normal hawk
Hope it works well for you valorous
sage yew
ty @normal hawk
shell estuary
I have a EVGA 980 Ti but i just repaired a 240 Hz monitor and wanna get those frames. The only game i really play is DOTA 2 (pls dont roast me). What's my best bet? I was looking at 1660's but i figured why not just jump to a 2060 if i was gonna get that
limber flax
If you're on a budget, the 1660S is more worth it
A 2060 is essentially a 1660S that can do minimal ray tracing
And has cuda cores
For things like RTX Voice
buoyant stone
Difference between 1660 super and 2070 super
hexed forge
2070 super much more powerful and has ray tracing
coarse garnet
For things like RTX Voice
@limber flax RTX voice has been modded to run on any nvida card, regardless rtx or gtx
it's just an rtx promotion move from nvidia
royal copper
with rtx voice i just want to note that nvidia said it was a very early release and are aware of the mod to 10 series, it is unclear whether they will keep that bug there
wary anvil
It does better with the RTX cards from what I've seen. They want to run it entirely on the unused rtx/tensor cores
limber flax
I've been using it and it works pretty well
cloud mural
😭
royal copper
yeah it has less performance hit on rtx cards too