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hard wren
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I have never heard of anyone breaking a gpu with canned air

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but that doesnt mean its impossible

plucky ibex
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It only happened after i cleaned the gpu

hard wren
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did you take the gpu out when you cleaned it?

plucky ibex
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No

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My pc was just off

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Shutted it down

hard wren
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how long did you wait before powering it back up?

plucky ibex
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Like 30 mins

hard wren
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hmm thats sounds fine

plucky ibex
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Then what the heck then my gpu must be dying

hard wren
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I would try unseating it from the pci slot and reseating it

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then I would ddu the drivers and reinstall drivers

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if the reseating doesnt have any effect

plucky ibex
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I already did that but not the gpu drivers part and reseating didn’t fix it

hard wren
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yeah drivers would be my next step

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how old is the gpu?

plucky ibex
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Its a zotac gtx 1650 and i bought it like 3 months ago I think

hard wren
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overclocked?

plucky ibex
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No

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I just turned the pc off and didn’t disconnect the power supply

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When i was cleaning the gpu

hard wren
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I mean you should but I doubt that would cause an issue

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more likely you knocked something loose on the card with the air

plucky ibex
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That’s what i was thinking

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I was kinda spraying at a close distance at my mobo since it was dirty aswell did i do any harm to that? Pc is working fine rn just games look bad

hard wren
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might also have blown dust into somewhere in the gpu that it wasnt before that is now causing that part of the gpu to overheat

plucky ibex
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Temps are fine

hard wren
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that you know of

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there arent sensors everywhere

plucky ibex
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I was getting 60 in games

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Oh

hard wren
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like you could have blown dust somewhere the gpu manufacturer never thought dust could go so no sensor or anything

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could take it apart and wipe it down with some alcohol then let it dry

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unless you can return it

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then you might try that

plucky ibex
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Ill try i was thinking of just saving up

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But did you read what i said about my motherboard hopefully I didn’t damage that either i got no problems with it atm just the gpu when playing games

hard wren
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it seems unlikely if its just artifacting

plucky ibex
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Oh ok thanks

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Ill just buy a 1660 super

hard wren
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pretty much has to be a gpu problem and thats a much better card

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I would also try the ddu and reinstall drivers as it could solve your problems

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in the mean time

plucky ibex
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Ok thanks ill try that

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@hard wren thanks for the help atleast i know its my gpu I thought my other parts were damaged thanks!

hard lion
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Hello All!! I'm an old guy with and old computer problem.. Graphics card PNY Quadro 4000 VCQ4000-PB 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card. It seams to have pucked out. The motherboard gives a red light signal at startup for the video card and then sits there. I woould like to replace this with out overhauling the Windows 7 machine that I use for Photoshop and Lightroom operations. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....Thanks Gary

nocturne dagger
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Just get a used 1060gb card and plug it in. and also if i was you upgrade to windows 10 its free

wicked hound
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@hard lion That can still be another issue. Just means that the GPU couldnt be detected / started properly. Which can be due to the CPU, mobo, PSU, or obviously, the GPU

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Before going out to buy another GPU I suggest testing with another GPU. Also if you can test that Quadro in another PC

hard lion
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I was thinking similar. It starts sometimes and I've pulled the card out and reinstalled it to find it operational. I thought it was dirty contacts so did a cleaning. I has worked for a week and just did it again tonight. #@!%

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I don't have another computer to try it on.

torpid garden
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Does it crash during load? Or without rhyme or reason?

wicked hound
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Any friends / family for testing?

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oh god that sounded horrible

hard lion
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Durring the start up push of the button.

wicked hound
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Does it sometimes fail to start? Like say it fails two times in a row then work?

hard lion
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There has never been a mid session freeze up

wicked hound
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I've actually had a lemon GPU that failed to start sometimes. Usually would have to do some random hardware display change like unplug the HDMI cable for it to work again

hard lion
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Yes it sometimes fail and tonight, it is stubbern

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spelling??

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I've found that HDMI CABLE reconnect to have worked twice.

wicked hound
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Well if all else fails can try a GPU BIOS flash (not to be confused with mobo BIOS)

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but save that for a bit later

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Tho speaking of BIOS, can do a mobo BIOS update too

hard lion
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Hei, did the HDMI RE PLUGGING make the issue go away?

wicked hound
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not permanently. It'd fix it till some sort of update happened (Win update, GPU driver update, changing displays, etc) then it'd happen upon next boot

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ended up replacing it cuz warranty

spice prawn
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it might also be a psu age related issue @wicked hound

hard lion
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Sounds like where I'm headed. I really don't want to make it Windows10 because all software works. I'm looking trying to have Newegg give me a suggestion for a replacement card.

wicked hound
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It wasnt in my case. Situation followed itself to another PC

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I also used another GPU with a higher OC (was originally OEM 970, had another AIB 970 laying around) and it worked. Also something weird happened with my warranty. Was a prebuilt and upon getting getting it back I got a 1070 as a replacement, which also worked

torpid garden
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Do you need all the functionality that the quadro 4000 offered? We'd be happy to recommend a modern equivalent, but it'll be priced similarly to what the original card cost when you bought it.

If your needs can be met by something like a 1050 ti, 1660 ti/super, I'd go with one of those.

hard lion
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I think it gets a workout with my large image processing in photoshop. If it has a psu issue would it still fire up the motherboard and respond to a card issue?

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I get a 3beep tone at startup when this happens.

wicked hound
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PSUs are weird and complex, stuff like that can happen afaik. Also note for us to know post code errors and what they mean we'd need to know the mobo model too as post code errors differ from mobo to mobo

torpid garden
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3 beep tone is traditionally a RAM issue, can sometimes be motherboard or CPU related. Can* vary by motherboard model.

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PSU issues are hard to to troubleshoot and can present intermittently, causing all kinds of downstream problems.

hard lion
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the mobo is a ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel

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it gives a 3beep tone and a few seconds later a single beep

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a red light goes on near the graphics card slot for a short while as an initial investagation when working properly. When the issue happens, that light stays on but the screen is dead.

torpid garden
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Do you have another system with which to test the card?

hard lion
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the power supply is CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance ...

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Forks...I don't have another system.

torpid garden
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It was released in 2016 - so there are certainly new/faster - albeit more expensive options. Do you have a price range?

hard lion
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I was targeting the $200 range

torpid garden
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Do you need windows 7 compatibility? Another other programs than photoshop?

hard lion
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Yes windows7. the computer is dedicated to graphics work -image processing.

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I've got a good investment in 64gb sdram too

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My $200 is not written in stone and I've seen Newegg referbs lower that $100 in the catalog. It would be nice to work with a knowledgeable video man/woman.

torpid garden
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Either card will be 2-10x more "powerful" than what you're coming from, and may not even require an additional 6/8 pin pcie power cable.

hard lion
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Holy Spotlight Batman! Thanks for the info

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I can't find the $170ish price as listed. Can you give me a link to the lower priced units? Please

torpid garden
hard lion
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Many Thanks. I'm checking them out.

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Forks....I appreciate your help and time. Thanks, Gary

torpid garden
pallid kite
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What is the best bang for the buck gpu for 1080p 90-120fps

dense flicker
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RX570

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can be found on ebay for like $100-$120

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make sure to find a RX570 8gb tho

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@pallid kite

pallid kite
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@dense flicker thats not too out dated?

dense flicker
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nah

pallid kite
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Hmm interesting

wicked hound
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470/570 is like $90 or so
480/580 is like $100

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used market

wet tulip
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@dense flicker rx 570 gets around 70fps on most games

sudden storm
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I have the Nvidia 1060 6gb and its gets abt 120 fps on high settings at 1080p in Fortnite

upbeat rover
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What’s better value? 1650 super or RX 580

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I’m gonna OC which ever one I get but idk which one will OC better since the stock performance on both of them are very similar

mighty island
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i think RX 580 has better stock performance

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but 1650S is more power efficient

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so you'll have more thermal headroom

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but you can find a lot of used rx 580 for cheaper

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if you stream/record then the 1650S comes with NVENC

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imo go 1650S if you stream/record, rx 580 if gaming only

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@upbeat rover

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some 8gb rx 580 can be had for ~$100

twin crown
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Can you give me some links

wicked hound
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@upbeat rover 1650S is generally cheaper new then 580 new with same rasterization perf. It also comes with NVENC and consumes less power. So overall the 580 is worse due to being the same in some aspects and worse in others. Never really being better to make it worth it (few games here and t here would perform better on 580, but nothing really noticeable)

upbeat rover
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Ok. Thanks guys

wicked hound
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The only time a 580 makes sense is used market

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def some good value in used 580

thorn kestrel
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Is the geforce rtx 2060 ko good in terms of performance?

spice prawn
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the 2060ko in terms of gaming performance is just like any non-ko 2060

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the only place the KO model differs is in very special semi-professional workloads

thorn kestrel
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Oh

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So what graphics card would you recommend in a budget of $300

spice prawn
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whichever 2060 is cheapest

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if it is just for gaming, just about any of them will do

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Personally i would go for the ventus or the gigabyte oc

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because i like having bigger slower spinning fans

thorn kestrel
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Thank you

desert flare
rigid crag
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Pretty sure the evga performs better

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Could be wrong tho

desert flare
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I heard from other people that the dual oc was better, thought I would ask.

torpid garden
desert flare
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tysm Forks

plucky ibex
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Does DDU remove nvidia control panel and GeForce experience? getting a new gpu soon

hard wren
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I dont think so there used to be an option to but I think they took it off

plucky ibex
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Alright i don’t really need to remove them anyways right? Just dont want any errors

hard wren
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should be fine

plucky ibex
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Kk thanks

normal hawk
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I have a 2060 and a Ryzen 7 2700x, would it be okay upgrading to a used 2080 super for 4k and rendering? Or should I just get a 2070 super?

fallen schooner
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I'd think the 2080super would be better at that, but I have no experience in rendering.

hard wren
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@normal hawk depends on use case but the 2080S and 2070S are like identical in V-ray

lucid whale
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so i've got this guy who has the gigabyte rx 5600xt oc gaming card, and is willing to downsize to my rx 580 8gb + $70. is this a good trade? his card was purchased two weeks ago and is simply too big for his case

hexed forge
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seems fine to me if you trust him lol

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the 580 new is about 150 right now and the 5600 xt is about 250, so youd be getting a good deal.

granite juniper
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yea but 580's used are like 100, still a good deal

brisk flame
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poggers, deafkid techie 😮

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epic

spice prawn
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he has the advantage @brisk flame

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he can legit say that he doesnt hear what they are complaining about

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aint that right @hexed forge

hexed forge
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Who’s complaining about wha?

spice prawn
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close enough

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"what?" would have been a good response :D

brisk flame
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Lol

hexed forge
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thought about it but i genuinly didnt understand the context lol

spice prawn
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a techie aka techsupport (that cannot hear what the customers are saying) @hexed forge that is the joke/context

river wadi
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Hey so I am looking into upgrading a old dell optiplex it has a core 2 duo and I was wondering if a gt 710 would be a good upgrade for it

tired swan
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from what i assume to be integrated graphics?

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and what cpu is it?

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from what i can find online i dont think it will be much of an upgrade, if at all

river wadi
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I an not sure what type it is

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I do not think it has integrated graphics

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What would be the best budget gpu to use then

tired swan
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do you have a dedicated gpu?

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usually optiplexes use igpus

river wadi
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no there is no gpu installed

glad willow
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guys need help I got a Inspiron 560 I need a video card for this with at least 2 gig of on board ram is there such a thing for this model?? also running a ps 300 watts

river wadi
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are you trying to game on it

tired swan
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@river wadi what is your budget for a gpu?

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@glad willow and what is your budget for a gpu?

tropic sedge
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Would a ryzen 5 3600 keep up with an Rtx 2080S? Or would it not be worth the upgrade without first upgrading my CPU. Don't want my CPU to bottleneck

spice prawn
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what GPU do you have now @tropic sedge ?

tropic sedge
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1660 super

spice prawn
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it would imo be worth the upgrade

tropic sedge
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It's weird, ever since the most recent firmware update for the 1660, it's basically halved its performance

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Like games I had no problem getting 200 frames a second on in 1080p suddenly struggle to hit 60

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CPU usage is low, GPU usage is low, no memory bottleneck that I'm aware of, I think my cards fans are just dying

spice prawn
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that sounds more like a driver/setting issue

tropic sedge
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I think I'm hearing a small amount of grinding when they're revving up

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Haven't paid too much attention to temps but they haven't seemed awful

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But I was planning to upgrade anyway because I need support for a third monitor

spice prawn
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support for a third monitor should already be there on your current card

tropic sedge
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Yes it supports it, but all of my monitors get locked at 30 frames a second if I'm using display port and HDMI outputs at the same time

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Can't figure out why

spice prawn
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thats driver related

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and wasnt that fixed fairly recently

tropic sedge
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I can't say I've tried it in the past month or so, but it wasn't working in January

spice prawn
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i seem to recall reading about it being fixed

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but... yeah

tropic sedge
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I'll try it out tomorrow then, hopefully it works without any issues

spice prawn
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hopefully yes

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give a shout after you have tried testing it please

tropic sedge
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It all started with Doom q.q it forced me to update the drivers

spice prawn
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and i will devote some time to actually working/thinking seriously about it

tropic sedge
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Gotcha, I'll let you know how it goes

spice prawn
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thank you

lone pond
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best rx 5700xt for the money?

hard wren
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well for the money a 2060S is better

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but something like this should be ok

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I dont reccomend sapphire anymore after so many port issues

graceful frost
torpid garden
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I'd go with the EVGA, great warranty, cheaper, comes with a game.
The MSI cooler is a bit lacking even though it's dual fan, uses a cheapo cast/milled aluminum fin stack.

graceful frost
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I was leaning EVGA because I’ve always had good luck with their products.
Thanks for the advice!

rigid crag
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So I got kinda a weird question. In my first pre-built it had a 1060 6gb. I've changed literally everything in my system besides that gpu at this point. I'm curious tho because I don't know exactly what gpu it is. Like I cant find it for sale anywhere so I'm assuming its some kind of oem only model. Gpuz lookup also doesn't have any results btw. If anyone has any ideas id be happy to hear them

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Also because I'm lazy I don't have any pictures on it outta my system but heres a bad one of it in there

tropic sedge
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@spice prawn

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So I got it hooked up, things are working fairly normally except my primary monitor is 144 hz and it's being locked at 60

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other monitors working well at 60hz though

frigid moon
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ampere is supposed to launch in november, and zen 3 not long after that, should i wait for next gen cpus and gpus or buy a 2070s and a 3700x soon-ish

hard wren
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@rigid crag looks like an asus

rigid crag
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Well it was an asus prebuilt

hard wren
rigid crag
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Oh oh that's it

hard wren
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ta dah

rigid crag
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My fans dirty tho

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Is that yours

hard wren
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nah pulled pic online

rigid crag
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Ah lol

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That was quick

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Whats it listed as?

hard wren
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Asus OEM Blower Nvidia GTX 1060 Video Card 6GB Samsung-GDDR5-Memory Asus-OEM-B

rigid crag
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Thx

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Ik its a blower but its a pretty good one imo because my Temps NEVER pass 70

hard wren
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yeah at least its got the 6gb ram

rigid crag
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I do have good airflow in my case tho

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Yep that's all it's got 👌

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Thx for your help

hard wren
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np

rigid crag
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Lmao whys that guy selling it for $500

hard wren
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no idea

rigid crag
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Lol

rigid crag
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How do I clean my gpu's pcb

steel hamlet
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How much should a used rtx 2060 founders edition go for ? In usd

wet temple
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are you selling one or looking to buy

steel hamlet
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Looking to buy

wet temple
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ah

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well on a quick google search, there aren't a lot of listings

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can't find much still

steel hamlet
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Yeah, I plan on buying on Reddit hardware swap but I want to know what it goes for

wet temple
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i'd say, from the looks of it, you should just buy one new

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it doesn't appear you'll get many good deals on one

hexed forge
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im seeing em selling for around 280 to 350 used

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mostly the higher end of that

wet temple
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and how much are they brand new?

hexed forge
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new i believe is 400?

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lemme check

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yeah 399.99

wet temple
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seems like a steep price for one actually

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does it need to be a founders?

hexed forge
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other brands are still going at about 300 or more

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275 is best i've seen

wet temple
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still seems like a way better deal than any of the founder's

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what's the appeal with those anyway?

hexed forge
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iunno theyre not bad gpus

steel hamlet
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They look good lol

hexed forge
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just not good for RTX

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oh the founder specifically?

steel hamlet
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Ye

wet temple
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yes

hexed forge
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founders is made directly by nvidia. they usually keep the quality boards for themselves and ship the not as good ones to other manufacturers so they have to come up with more creative solutions to make them run better or something like that

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thats what someone else told me anyways.

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but also yeah some people like the way they look better too.

wet temple
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i thought nvidia only sold the licensing to make the boards

steel hamlet
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I really wanted to maximize asethetics without giving up too much cooling but I guess I'll go with a used gtx 1070or smth

hexed forge
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i believe they make and sell the boards. the heatsinks and fans and shroud is made by the other companies I think

steel hamlet
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I'm doing mini itx

hexed forge
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iunno i like some of the other cards. like i love evga cards

steel hamlet
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Nouvolo steck, 8.7L case

wet temple
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i have a zotac mini 2070 super

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i quite like it

hexed forge
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neat

royal copper
wet temple
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listen ghost

royal copper
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?

wet temple
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zotac better

royal copper
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xD

spare relic
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Why the founders edition so pretty

granite juniper
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@steel hamlet you could also go with something like a ventus, itx card, or zotac, they're all between 300 and 350 new

rigid crag
wicked hound
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There is GPU only kit there for $125 or so (meaning GPU block+pump+rad+res)

open crystal
wicked hound
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@open crystal That 2070 cooler is quite cheap. I'd go with a decent 2060S, probs something from EVGA

open crystal
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ok

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EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING?

rigid crag
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That kit looks good hei but I have next to no interest in custom loops because of the hassle to build and maintain. Not to mention the fear of ruining everything

wicked hound
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maintaining isnt much if just using water with some bio repellent. Replace the water every two years or so. Then to go on with a leakage, so long as you test it before turning on the PC beforehand then its likelyhood of leaking is decently close to an AIO

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As most custom leaks are from the beginning where you forgot to tighten smth or close smth

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but building hassle is a bit more, esp if hardline

rigid crag
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Leaking could also occur down the line if I knocked it over or something. Actually can constant vibrations cause that too?

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But regardless would you get better cooling performance from a custom loop?

torpid garden
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If your PC is vibrating with that much amplitude - you have other problems.

rigid crag
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Ok lol

wicked hound
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Oh also major note with GPU AIO, pump failure

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that'd be a hardcore pain to replace when warranty is over

rigid crag
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True

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Also if I'm going to go through that hassel I might as well buy a cpu block as well to replace my stock cooler

wicked hound
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generally afaik going past 240mm is diminishing returns per component for cooling perf. However noise normalized cooling still can win as you can do smth crazy like 480mm with passive cooling

torpid garden
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I wouldn't rely on any AIO to last more than 2-3 years at most without maintenance or failure.

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They're not really designed to last more than that since they most often use a propylene glycol based coolant.

rigid crag
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480m is like bigger than my case

torpid garden
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Like 70/30 water/PG

wicked hound
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2x 240mm

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tho

rigid crag
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Ah ok

wicked hound
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Im getting 240mm + 120mm just to keep that noise down. Tho my shippment was majorly delayed due to human malware

torpid garden
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In a custom loop, it's normal to use 99.9 something % distilled water + a small volume - 10-30ml of corrosion inhibitor + biocide concentrate.

rigid crag
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Ok

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In the event that I water cooled both my cpu and gpu would it be better to buy a card that has a waterblock on it already?

torpid garden
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Many of the AIO gpu cooler cards have all kinds of issues.

wicked hound
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As in a custom block preinstalled, or AIO?

torpid garden
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TBH - I'd either go with a GPU with a giant triple fan air cooler - or buy a reference/cheap card and just waterblock it.

rigid crag
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As in custom block preinstalled

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Like this

torpid garden
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A ton of people with 2080 ti's put NZXT G12 AIOs on them.

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Since samsung gddr6 likes to get hot and the vrm is so efficient it doesn't need much cooling

wicked hound
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Usually is fine, just need to look out for mixing metals and cost

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like that 2080S is $140 over MSRP

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which is a lot compared to the kit I recently gave out

rigid crag
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How much would just a gpu block cost?

wicked hound
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usually about $85 - $110 if on the cheap side

torpid garden
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What GPU? Usually around $120-200 for mainstream stuff.

rigid crag
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Probably a 2080s

torpid garden
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Reference pcb blocks are usually cheaper.

wicked hound
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I mean a full CPU/GPU custom loop kit is like $250 from the same seller

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for that kit I gave out

rigid crag
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Ok that would probably be the best option then

torpid garden
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But like I mentioned earlier - you can just stick an AIO on the gpu core, then affix heat sink fins to the VRM componentry with zip ties / something.

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And point a fan to it.

rigid crag
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Yes thats also an option

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I'd rather do a custom loop tho at that point

wicked hound
rigid crag
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Ok

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I think my plan will just be to get a standard 2080s 2 fan card and then when I have the money for a cpu upgrade I'll do a full custom loop

wicked hound
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If looking for the cheap side of things, stay at Bykski or Barrow. I wouldnt trust any other cheap brand. If mainstream then you got EK, Alphacool, Thermaltake, etc. Usually quite a bit pricier tho

rigid crag
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Ok good to know

torpid garden
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I think custom loops are best enjoyed as a hobby in themselves - not so much because you want to min/max your performance / (dollar + effort)

rigid crag
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Well whenever I'm not working on a build i always wish I was so I would be happy spending time on it

remote saffron
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Looking for a graphics card to upgrade to from a AMD Radeon Sapphire 7950. With PCI E 2.0. And requires a 12-16 pin connection. Any suggestions?

hexed forge
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any card should fit into that

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what is your cpu and psu

remote saffron
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I have a 6 core processor and 700 w power supply.

hexed forge
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which proccesor is it though

remote saffron
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Just a sec. Double checking my specs.

hexed forge
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ok

remote saffron
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Amd FX 6300 six core.

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3.50 GHz

hexed forge
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so all of the newer gpus will be bottlenecked by that cpu

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so you can get a newer GPU but you won't be able to get the full power out of it

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you would see an increase in performance probably by doing so but to utilize the newer gpus you'll probably need a new cpu and mobo and ram

remote saffron
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That's what I figured. Im just looking to get this thing replaced. had it for 8 years. and it's starting to crash my games on me.

hexed forge
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are you sure its the GPU?

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have you checked the temps under load?

wicked hound
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well, I mean would the monitor "bottleneck" the CPU cuz it can (maybe) achieve 60FPS?

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In which case can get a 1650S or used 570

remote saffron
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It was holding 50 C when I booted up .

hexed forge
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it will be low at boot

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you might be able to benefit from simply cleaning the thermal paste and reapply new paste and making sure to clean out all the dust

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idk when the last time paste was applied or when you last cleaned it, but heat can cause slowdowns and crashes

remote saffron
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on the card it's self?

hexed forge
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paste on the CPU and make sure theres no dust on any of it

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you can try to reapply the paste on the gpu but ive not done it and I've heard it can be hard to do right

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also @wicked hound is that a thing? a monitor bottlenecking something? i've never heard of that

remote saffron
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Sorry thinking here.

wicked hound
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Well, the GPU can do say 150FPS but the CPU "bottlenecks" it to 90FPS. Tho if on a 60Hz monitor, why worry?

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all example numbers btw

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dont know any specifics

hexed forge
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true, but like according to calculators online, something like a 1660 would get a massivveee bottleneck and the only one I foudn that was in range was like a 460 which is still kinda outdated.

wicked hound
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best to look at benchmarks of the CPU with a good GPU to see what it can achieve

remote saffron
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the weird part about it. is that when I'm playing suddenly I'll get vertical bars on my screen. and my other screen will go grey

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As so.

hexed forge
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oh that might be a dying gpu then but im unsure

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does like the game music continue?

remote saffron
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No.

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The whole thing locks up and music stops

hexed forge
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hmm im unsure. i've not seen that before

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how old is the computer?

remote saffron
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8 years. I've replaced a few parts on it so far.

hexed forge
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like what?

remote saffron
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Cooler and the PSU

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It might be my CPU

hexed forge
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well you can get a 580 on ebay for about a hundred used, or you might be able to find a 5600 xt for around 200-250 used

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and if that doesn't work, you can start working on upgrading

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hold on lemme check something

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ok i was checking if it had integrated graphics. It doesnt and i didnt think it would but i thought i'd check lol

cursive raven
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can RX 570 gpu is compatible with these mobo Fm2a55m-vg3

fallen schooner
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I wouldn't see why not.

wet temple
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^

fallen schooner
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fm2 is suuuuuuuuuuuper old tho

spare relic
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👀

fallen schooner
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so it's going to bottle neck the crap outta the gpu

spare relic
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I have a Lenovo OEM board

fallen schooner
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get out

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right now.

spare relic
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shhhhhhh

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no

fallen schooner
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I SED GIT!

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NAO!

spare relic
analog shore
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pfHfDx
Im looking for opinions on a GPU to match up with this CPU.
In the list i have linked are the basic components to the machine as it currently stands. The machine currently runs linux and will be used as a standard day to day station but i would like it to be able to run your average steam games. It might be used for doing recording stuff as well. If you need any other info please let me know, Thanks

System Builder
spare relic
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what resolution and framerate goal?

analog shore
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Ermmmmm. Couldnt say im sure tbh

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Oh i did forget to mention i wish for it to not be hugely pricey and im not fussed if its Radeon or Nvidia

spare relic
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GTX 1650 or 1650 Super would work

analog shore
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Any particular brand one you would recomend

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Im never really sure about that part either

spare relic
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no, I don't have any experience with any, but I want to get the Zotac mini twin fan 1650 Super

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nice and smol for fitting in poorly designed office micro atx cases

analog shore
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This case i have is just a mini machine that hides under my desk currently with some crummy GPU not capable of doing anything heavy duty. So gonna try get it going a little more with some better stuff

spare relic
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what size is the expansion slot? if it's a slim case it won't be able to fit much of anything

analog shore
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The zotac is a pretty chunky monkey. Might be a tight fit if i went with that one

spare relic
analog shore
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The thickness of it i mean

spare relic
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it is a dual slot card

analog shore
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I know. Thats my point

spare relic
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you could go with a GT 1030?

analog shore
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That's within the case right now

spare relic
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ouch

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not much clearance

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there seem to be single slot GTX 1050Tis

analog shore
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It doesnt show very well in my picture but the side panel there is an enturely ventilation section so the fans will be able to blow through

spare relic
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ah ok

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what gpu is that?

analog shore
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Thats the side of it. So probably a good amount of airflow to a degree

I have no idea in all honesty

spare relic
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xd

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a two slot card would probably be comfortable in there tbh

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you could find a used one locally and pick it up for a small amount to see how cool it stays in that case versus in a different case

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but it looks like it would stay nice and cool :p

analog shore
#

Market place stuff is all closed for second hand things right now because of covid. Prevent people going out and such

spare relic
#

yea makes sense

rigid crag
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There's always apps like letgo and offer up

spare relic
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though last time I checked people are still keeping on on LetGo lmao

rigid crag
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Lol ya they don't care

analog shore
#

Both those dont seem to be so huge in the UK from what im aware of

rigid crag
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Oh I didn't know you were in the uk. I don't really know anything about international markets

analog shore
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Its all good 😛 I never mentioned until now haha

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Well i guess thats the GPU ideas done for now. Next step is looking at a secondary monitor 😂

spare relic
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I need one of those too peepoSadSip

rigid crag
#

I need a primary monitor ROFLEgg

spare relic
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lol

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I was just second guessing if I could even put a GTX 1650 Super in my motherboard

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since it's a Lenovo OEM board from probably 2014

rigid crag
#

Why wouldn't u be able to

spare relic
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no idea

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the primary reason that I'm aware about is just a PSU not having PCIe power cables

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which I'm willing to replace

rigid crag
#

You don't have a gpu currently?

spare relic
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that would require a 24 to 14 pin board power adapter

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it runs off of PCIe bus power

rigid crag
#

Hmm

spare relic
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GT 730

rigid crag
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Ok

spare relic
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no pins

rigid crag
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Ok I get it now

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Is it a non modular psu?

spare relic
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non modular, mounted in a normal micro atx bracket

rigid crag
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Ok, and you've taken off both panels and examined the cables it has?

spare relic
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I don't think there's any such thing as a modular or semi modular psu in the OEM market, those things probably don't exist to these people

rigid crag
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Probably not

spare relic
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there's only one side panel that comes off on this case, and yeah there's just two cables for the board and CPu

rigid crag
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Hump...

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Is there a cache somewhere in the case where they stuffed all the extra wires?

spare relic
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nah, it's all out in the open

rigid crag
#

Wow thats weird lol

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You can always replace your psu

spare relic
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OEM parts give you nothing but the essentials for getting a computer running

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yeah I plan on that, it's only 280 watts anyway :p

rigid crag
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Ah ok 👌

spare relic
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I do wonder if I can use it in a different computer I have, maybe for a NAS computer that doesn't need huge watts, though it would require hard drive cables from the board

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I got a second non-working Lenovo computer for fricks and kibbles, it has similarly limited parts

royal copper
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depends what ryzen 3 but you can look it up, I was able to run beamng on a 2 core processor at semi playable fps at low with integrated graphics

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some larger vehicles did lag tho

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lol

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which ryzen 5

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like 1400, 1600?

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2500 is second gen haha

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maybe first gen apu

green harness
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The Ryzen laptop APUs are numbered differently than desktop parts

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💥

wicked hound
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(edit: for mobile CPUs) That's a bad way of saying it because Zen+ exists.
2000 = Zen
3000 = Zen+
4000 = Zen2

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But it almost sounds like you're saying mobile 4000 is Zen3

green harness
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Fair, thanks for the input on that. It's nice that they made this so straightforward!

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I edited to try to clarify @wicked hound, if that's still wrong let me know and I'll nuke it

wicked hound
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@green harness I thought this was about mobile. If it's APUs then for 3000 series you have 3200g/3400g being Zen+ and 3000g being Zen

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2200g/2400g is Zen

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Don't know that 4400g/etc will be

green harness
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Yeah, I'll just nuke it. I thought APU was the term used for the mobile processors with integrated graphics as well as desktop parts with integrated graphics, but perhaps I am mistaken?

royal copper
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originally this was about mobile apus yes

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I just wasn't sure if there was a 2nd gen 2500 chip as there is a 3rd gen 3500x

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desktop cpu that is

spice prawn
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the 3500 is a desktop cpu, oem/china only

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anything below that is 3000 series in name, but 2nd gen (zen+) in core architecture

wicked hound
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@green harness honestly just needed to say mobile APUs so that people won't get confused with desktop APUs

coarse frost
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5700 or 2060??

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which is better in performance?

spare relic
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5700

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driver history is sketchy though

coarse frost
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yep but they updated it?

spare relic
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I think so

coarse frost
#

how much time do u thinks that card will last?

spare relic
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plenty 👀

coarse frost
#

like run games on like med or high graphics on 1440

spare relic
#

I still have an AGP All In Wonder 64MB gpu and it still runs like a champ

coarse frost
#

like how many years?

spare relic
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not sure

coarse frost
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@spare relic holy sh*t😂

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@spare relic how are u using this bro

spare relic
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I'm certain it varies based on use, but like it's not going to be a long time before it kicks the bucket

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with Windows XP and old games :)

coarse frost
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iam so sad for u bro

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i hope u get some nice stuff

spare relic
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it runs NFS 5 at a pretty low framerate

coarse frost
#

by dway where r u from?

spare relic
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California

coarse frost
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iam from egypt

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nice 2 meet u

spare relic
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hi 😄

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I have slightly better gpus, like an HD5570 and a GT730

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but not much beyond that

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I manage with it, with some struggle xd

mystic shadow
#

Which is better, a gtx 1650 or a gtx 1060? Just wondering.

rigid crag
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Assuming its a 6gb 1060 then the 1060 wins

spare relic
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what about 1650 Super :>

rigid crag
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1060 still wins

wet temple
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1650 is especially limited not only in power but by vRAM

rigid crag
#

Its not that much more for a 1660 super tho

spare relic
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how much is the 1660 Super?

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220?

rigid crag
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About

spare relic
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160 is a good price for me

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so in my case, 1650 Super wins :>

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how much is the non Super 1660?

rigid crag
#

You have to get it used since its discontinued and that could be any price rly but I wouldn't imagine it be more than 200

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I see a couple going for like 115 ish used

spare relic
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that's not bad

rigid crag
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Not bad at all

spare relic
#

where would I find such prices, eBay?

rigid crag
#

Thats where I saw it

spare relic
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ah

rigid crag
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They were on auction tho so they'll probably go up a little more before they end

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Theres not many of them tbh

spare relic
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yeah I'm not too keen on auction

hexed forge
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theyre selling for about 180-200

rigid crag
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Oh rly that not so great then

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Just get a 1660super for 20 bucks more

spare relic
#

it's still good, but I'd rather do 1650 Super for 160

hexed forge
spare relic
#

jumping from a GT 730, I'll be happy with that lol

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I want to buy new, B&H looks to be the best for Zotac GTX 1650 Super Twin Fan

rigid crag
#

I think a 3400g would be a upgrade from a gt 730ROFLEgg

spare relic
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lol

hexed forge
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thats the only one anywhere near that low though. 1660s are going for 180ish or higher, 1660 supers are going for 240-280, and 1660 tis are selling for between 185-270 (dont know why some tis are going so much lower)

spare relic
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I have an i7-4790 tho, not in need of a new system

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the Zotac is tiny and I love it

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perfect to fit in my poorly designed Lenovo case

hard rain
#

Alright this is probably the best place to ask this. I'm relatively new to graphics cards and how gpu's work with drivers, and I've been having a bit of a problem. My config is a msi GS65 8SE (i7-8750h rtx 2060 16x1 gb) My rtx 2060 handles every game I play perfectly except Minecraft, which is super confusing to me. I've watched benchmarks on youtube and the results they are getting are around 500-1000 fps. I'm only getting 50 to 100 frames for some reason. I supposed there might be software holding the gpu back, but I have no idea where to start looking.

dense flicker
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@hard rain thats a common problem with laptops

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one second

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go to this file directory

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Minecraft Launcher

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right click MinecraftLauncher.exe

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and go to the dropdown that says "Run with graphics processor"

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and then choose your 2060 from the list

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also youre not gonna hit 500-1000fps on a 2060 unless you do like 2 render distance lol.

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anyways

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i think thats how youd fix it

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i havent used minecraft on a laptop in awhile

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when youre in the game, press F3

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look on the right

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it will either say UHD Graphics 630 or Nvidia 2060

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you obviously want the 2060.

hard rain
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Right

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Will try that rn

dense flicker
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let me know how it goes

hard rain
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👍

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tried that and I’m still getting 50-100 fps

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120* it varies

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also I’m on the lowest settings

hard wren
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come clean how many mods are you using? LOL

hard rain
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None! I'm playing completely vanilla lol

spare relic
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haha

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you say you have 1x16GB stick of memory?

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without shaders, the highest performance hit goes to the CPU in Minecraft

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maybe single channel memory is making the CPU unhappy?

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though I'm not acquainted with the nuances of memory channel performance impacts

hard wren
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dual channel ram would up the fps

dense flicker
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@hard rain

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did you hit F3

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and check if it was using the 2060?

hard rain
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Yes and it was

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@spare relic I’m not sure that single channel ram would cause that much of an fps game.

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drop**

spare relic
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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well, dual channel memory should bump framerate, and Optifine would help as well

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do you know if your CPU is running at turbo clock speeds, or base?

hard rain
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base speeds i suppose

hard wren
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should really only add 5-15 fps with dual channel

hard rain
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I don’t really know how to overclock my cpu. I downloaded msi afterburner and the area to change cpu clock speeds is inaccessible

hard wren
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intel non "k"

spare relic
#

it should be fine using stock turbo speeds

hard wren
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intel non "k"

hard rain
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? wdym

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how do i turn on stock turbo speeds

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and would that make a significant difference

spare relic
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well, as it is right now to see if it is running at turbo clock, you can open Minecraft and wander around loading in chunks and stuff

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and then open Task Manager to the Performance tab

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my processor has a base speed of 3.6GHz, and a turbo speed of 4.0GHz

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yours, an i7-8750H has a base of 2.2GHz, and a turbo of 4.1GHz

hard wren
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@hard rain by non "K" I meant only "K" intel CPUs can be easily overclocked like a 8700K where your 8750H is not meant to be OC-ed just the turbo

hard rain
spare relic
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it looks like it's doing well

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I see a large chunk of activity on the UHD graphics though

hard rain
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probably because i opened up my browser using intel graphics

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it showed no activity when just minecraft was opened

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Still I haven't found a solution

spare relic
#

ah

hard rain
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I am getting 140-150 fps now

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slightly better but nowhere near what it's supposed to be running

hard wren
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why is the UHD doing anything?

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disable it in bios

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that is taking all kinds of resources

spare relic
#

interesting

hard rain
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alright brb

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wait

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@spare relic Retract what I said chrome wasn't open when I took that sc

spare relic
#

o

hard wren
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bet that fixes it

hard rain
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Where do i disable uhd in bios?

hard wren
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what motherboard?

hard rain
#

u h

hard wren
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is it a laptop?

hard rain
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i have a msi gs65

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yes

spare relic
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might this be helpful?

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maybe not

hard wren
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yeah looks like you cant

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"Turns out this cannot be achieved in any way. I just called MSI support and they confirmed that a physical switch is required to transfer the HDMI output from the Intel chip to the NVIDIA GPU."

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thats a terrible way to make a gaming laptop

hard rain
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Welp I’m still stuck then

spare relic
#

that is bizarre

hard wren
#

looks like it. that is strange though cant believe they would make it like that

hard rain
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uhd activity during mc only

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dropoff is when i switched to task manager

spare relic
#

sneaky computer

hard rain
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wow lol

hard wren
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@spice prawn you know anything about this?

hard rain
#

its strange how this is seen most clearly on minecraft

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other games run as expected with an rtx 2060

hard wren
#

I agree its very strange

hard rain
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I don't understand why both gpus are being used

spice prawn
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would seem to be because of the code that is being run

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because other games work fine right @hard rain ?

hard rain
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Yup

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I'll go check right now to make sure

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to see the uhd activity

spice prawn
#

then i would ask the minecraft devs AND nvidia why their drivers work like that

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you might see "some" UHD activity no matter what

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you are effectively doing a passthrough after all

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depending on how task manager "looks" at things

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that could be enough to trigger "some" activity in the graphs

hard wren
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think its Java?

spice prawn
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that would be my guess yes

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but as i told Zack, i have no clue about minecraft as such

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as in, i know the original runs in Java

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but i honestly thought they had moved engine by now

hard rain
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wow yeah with splitgate running ultra settings uhd saw 30% use

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so minecraft just doesnt work because its minecraft?

spice prawn
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kinda-maybe-ish

hard wren
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I would maybe see if you can go into nvidia control panel > manage 3d settings> program settings > [add] > browse select java excecutable and change preferred gpu to high performance nvidia processor and see if that helps

spice prawn
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question: what is splitgate?

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good idea Nilboggen

hard wren
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its all I got left lol

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i think splitgate is a first person shooter game

hard rain
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splitgate is a first person shooter

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think halo and portal

hard wren
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its also a good name for the MSI blunder that uses a splitter to move from the integrated gpu to the nvidia gpu. I will call it Splitgate from now on

spice prawn
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@hard rain ah!, in that game, do you get the expected performance for your GPU?

hard rain
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I guess. Its a pretty graphically challenging game and i get 120-150 fps

spice prawn
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so, in other words. way beyond what the iGPU could be doing

hard rain
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theres no benchmarks i’ve found of splitgate so i have nothing to base it off of

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yes

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definitely

spice prawn
#

and more in line with what you would expect from the nvidia card

hard rain
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Yeah

spice prawn
#

that leads to the (not-final) conclusion that in the case of games that use "not java", the nvidia driver does what it is supposed to

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which leads to the observation that: Something is borked in regards to how the iGPU and Nvidia driver interact when it comes to games running Java

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but, as Nilboggen suggested, can you try and add it as a custom exe?

hard rain
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I’ll try that

hard wren
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@spice prawn thanks for taking a look with me I was baffled

spice prawn
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Anytime Nilboggen :)

spare relic
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we are all baffled in these trying times

spice prawn
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not really @spare relic we have you to do that for all of us

spare relic
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oh xd

spice prawn
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:P

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(sorry, that was way too tempting)

spare relic
#

haha

woven belfry
#

I have an Asus Z17DM-E D3 mother board, i would like to move the GPU down to the lower slot to make room too mount a radiator for a water cooler, will this affect the performance of the Graphics card being in the lower slot rather than the first slot? any help would be greatly appreciated, new to PC building.

spare relic
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Z170M-E D3?

woven belfry
#

yes sorry

spare relic
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the black x16 slot seems to be running at PCIe x4

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so the best slot for your gpu is the grey slot

woven belfry
#

ok so it would affect performance due to the black slot being x4

spare relic
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yes I think so

woven belfry
#

ok thank you so much,

spare relic
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you're welcome

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you could go with an air cooler if you want to overclock the CPU, there are many out there that can cool down a hot CPU with comparable performance with a good radiator

woven belfry
#

i do have a decent enermax air cooler i could put back in, just like the apperance and thought a water cooler would work better.

half ravine
#

i have a serious question for someone maybe with this graphics card, but i recently bought a new pc and i got the asus blower style card the PNY RTX 2080ti but seeings that its kinda generic should i be worried about the life of the card or should i just go get a name brand one?

torpid garden
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Nothing to worry about.

half ravine
#

really? sweet that's the only thing about my system i was worried about

torpid garden
#

Ya, same as any other component/pc - set up case fans for sufficient ventilation, check temps if you're concerned.

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You might see load temps as high as 80+C and the blower fan might get a bit loud if you really, really push the card - but few real world gaming uses will utilize the full 320W power limit on your card.

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More like 150w-200w average

half ravine
#

okay yeah i monitor it with msi afterburner and the only thing i was worried about is how long is this going to last, it is a pre-built sadly i couldnt build my own, so i have a warranty

torpid garden
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Nothing wrong with prebuilt, and ya Afterburner is great - nearly everyone uses it for overclocking stuff.

half ravine
#

sweet, thanks for the help really

hard rain
#

@spice prawn @hard wren I copied the program minecraft was running off of in task manager (Javaw) and took the file location (C:\Program Files (x86)\Minecraft Launcher\runtime\jre-x64\bin) and pasted it into "add" in nvidia control panel. I changed the preferred gpu for Javaw to High Performance Processor and there was still no change with fps. The uhd is showing more activity than my gpu

hard wren
#

oof

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It was a long shot

hard rain
#

Maybe there's a mod to utilize the gpu instead of the uhd?

rigid crag
#

Is there a way to just disable the uhd entirely?

royal copper
#

what is this, optimus?

hard rain
#

Msi uses optimus and there is no way to disable the uhd without i suppose a physical key or hacking the bios

wicked hound
#

@hard rain if you open the f3 menu, does it show Intel UHD or dGPU?

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Don't remember how I did it. I mightve added the java exe itself to run as high performance rather then the MC exe

hard rain
#

It shows the dGPU

wicked hound
#

Then it's using dGPU to render MC. Tho all other basic programs open are still using iGPU (discord, chrome, etc) so there'll still be iGPU usage. This is all to save on battery life. For example with having a 1060 max q I get like 2 hours of battery life with dGPU only and 6 - 7 hours with iGPU only when doing basic stuff like word processing

rare sorrel
#

Hey is my system bottlenecked?
Ryzen 7 2700x
Rog strix radeon 580

wicked hound
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Yes, but also no. All computers have a bottleneck depending on perspective and use case

rare sorrel
#

What do you mean?

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on which cases should it depend?

wicked hound
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Gaming, workstation, Bitcoin mining, word processing, etc; all stuff considered to be a general type of workload. There there is specifics:
-gaming: what kind of game, res, desired settings
-workstation: video rendering, code compiling, photo editing, etc

hard rain
#

Then if that is the case and the igpu is not rendering mc, then why am I not getting the expected dGPU performance?

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Kind of just goes back to my original question

olive canopy
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Hey everyone. Lately I've noticed my 1660ti is idling at 1500mhz even when I'm doing nothing. Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?

royal copper
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check your usage and see if it is under any load and by what program

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if you are using folding@home it could do that also btw

wicked hound
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Also are you running shaders? If not then it's not GPU related

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Or quite unlikely to be, as MC without shaders is mostly CPU bound

hard rain
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I'm not using shaders. My cpu should be plenty powerful to run it too

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I have an i7 8750h

wicked hound
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Are you on battery or plugged in? Also did you uncap FPS and make sure no vsync is enabled via MC or Nvidia

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Also high performance on windows settings

young kettle
rigid crag
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Those dual dvis tho... 👀

lone pond
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Should i buy the K|ngp|n?
or the auros waterforce?

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guys?

spice prawn
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we cannot decide for you.

lone pond
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what is better?

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objectively?

spice prawn
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at the core, they are both clocked the same.

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so the question becomes, which do you like the most

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with the side question being: do you actually need either of them?

hard rain
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@wicked hound I’m plugged in, no fps cap with vsync off and I have high performance selected

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still only 50-120 fps

coarse frost
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5700 or 2070??

wicked hound
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How much RAM is allocated to it? @hard rain

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@coarse frost $330 (5700) vs $440 (2070)

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not an ideal comparison

coarse frost
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@wicked hound in my region they r d same

wicked hound
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What about the 2060 Super?

coarse frost
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bro i want to ask a question but it will take some time

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i want to buy a r5 3600 with an rx5700 and a b450

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what do u recommend me to upgrade?

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i got some extra bucks

brisk flame
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get a 5700 XT

coarse frost
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i was thinking about downgrading the cpu to 2600 and upgrading to 2070 @brisk flame

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bad idea?

wicked hound
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why would you downgrade? Arent the 2070 and 5700 the same price in your area?

coarse frost
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sorry i just saw the 2060 price and thought it was the 2070

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i just saw it rn and it is 50 60 dollars more

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😂

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my question here

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is what is worth to upgrade

wicked hound
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So in that case, then 5700 and unless you plan to stream, get a 2060/2070

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Also the 2060 Super is usually cheaper then the 2070

coarse frost
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no i just record gameplay

wicked hound
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then Nvidia, because you're still doing video encoding on the fly

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so 2060, 2060 Super, 2070, 2070 Super, etc

coarse frost
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so should i downgrade the cpu?

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cuz i think they give the same performance

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dont they?

wicked hound
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Well first off find the price of the 2060 Super

lone pond
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for me it is not about needing it

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I do intensive 3d modeling and rendering

coarse frost
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it is as same as the 2070 @wicked hound

lone pond
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I just bought a corsair 1000D and i want a fully watercooled rig

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i also play videos games at 3440 1440 at 144 htz

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i was just wondering mostly about which card would you think would last longest under constant load

wicked hound
coarse frost
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so is this enough for playing gta v on ultra and recording at the same time?

wicked hound
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probably

hard rain
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@wicked hound 16x1 gb for system, 6gb dedicated for dGPU

wicked hound
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@hard rain How much to MC tho? You specify an amount for MC to use up as well

hard rain
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Oh let me check

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2048 mb i think

wicked hound
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shouldn't be an issue, tho 4gb is generally ideal

hard rain
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Can I increase that?

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or would that even make a difference

wicked hound
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Unless 1.15 killed itself the difference shouldnt be major.
MC launcher>Installations (top middlish)>what ever installation you want to edit>more options>JVM Arguments... change -Xmx2G or -Xmx2048M to -Xmx4G. Make sure you arent changing -Xmn[some amount here]M as that is min RAM usage. You want to change max RAM usage

hard rain
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Yeah I did that and there wasn’t any difference

wicked hound
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is it just on that world?

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or any world?

hard wren
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the moral of the story here is dont buy an MSI gaming laptop in the future

lone pond
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hmm

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seriously can somebody give me a straight answer on which gpu is superior for constant workloads?

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Waterforce auros or K|ngp|n?

royal copper
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If you have the money, then kingpin

oak lake
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Is there any hope that when Nvidia allows GSync monitors to work with AMD GPU's some of the nicer monitors already on the market will enjoy this even though they said no currently available ones will?

unreal elm
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I believe newer GSync monitors support AMD cards however some older ones do not

oak lake
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Is it always just plug and play when they do or is software required?

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i looked at AW's website for my monitor and theres nothing there, I'm wondering if something third party works

spice prawn
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@lone pond which question is it you would like to have answered, because you have asked a couple of different ones by now

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there is the "which is objectively better" one, which is very much dependant on your own opinion and value set

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there is the "i do intensive 3d modelling and rendering" line

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which only has one answer: quadro

lone pond
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but i also do video games

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so that is off the table

spice prawn
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what is most important.

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as i said about the first question: your own opinion and value set

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we cannot read your mind :)

lone pond
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i would say which card will last me the longest under high load?

spice prawn
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either

lone pond
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hmm

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ok

spice prawn
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and just to be certain it is being pointed out, i am not being flippant here, but you are asking the wrong question.

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because you are asking a question that we cannot answer

lone pond
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im going with the waterforce because it has the sparkleys

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lol

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thnx for the help

spice prawn
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best of luck.

lone pond
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you too

little trail
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@hard rain Yo i had a similiar problem, i bought a lenovo laptop with gtx 1060 and i7 cpu. I ran minecraft and it was like only 40-60 fps. I thought that it was very weird because i didnt thought that minecraft is that heavy, but then after 4-6 months i decided to buy monitor (1440p, 75hz) just because sometimes im programming etc. so i need bigger monitor. So i connected the monitor throught mini display port cable to display port. I decided to run minecraft just to see how it looks on 2x bigger screen. And damn i was surprised. The game ran at atleast 400-800 fps without shaders. I was very surprised because i thought the higher res gonna eat my fps but it was actually boosting my fps. So yeah, if you want you can try doing this

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sorry 4 english lol

hard rain
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@little trail Thats interesting. My brother has a 4k monitor so i’ll test that too

rain drift
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Yo smh y’all use Nvidia smh

spice prawn
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@hard rain all you need to test what he is talking about, is ANY external monitor

hard rain
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Didn’t work

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Unless I did something wrong nothing changing

spice prawn
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then as we have been around before, seems to be the specific implementation

hard rain
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@little trail was it a laptop?

little trail
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Yeah, Lenovo legion y720

devout dove
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i need help

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so

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my graphics card isn’t connecting to my monitor

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and i got another graphics card to test

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it’s either my cable, monitor, or montherboard

royal copper
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have you had a problem before, do you have the cable plugged into the gpu and not the motherboard

devout dove
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no i haven’t

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and the cable is plugged into the gpu

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i have an AMD cpu

royal copper
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is there any signal at all(can you see backlight) or just no signal

devout dove
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it says no signal

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my monitor cycles through all the displays it can detect

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then it says no signal

royal copper
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can you see that the computer is one, like fans spinning, rgb lighting up. etc.

devout dove
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yea

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everything is lit

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but my peripherals aren’t lit

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like my keyboard and mouse

royal copper
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hmm

devout dove
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want to go in priv dms

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i can show you

royal copper
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you didn't have any errors before this happened, right?

devout dove
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yea

royal copper
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you said you have another gpu?

devout dove
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yea

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but

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i thought that the problem was the gpu

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which it might be

royal copper
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it could be something else

devout dove
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and i sent it or be repaired

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yea

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it is something else

gray vapor
devout dove
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it’s not the gpu for sure

royal copper
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the peripherals aren't lighting and usually that lights up when the system boots

devout dove
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well they light up for a second

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then turn off

royal copper
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have you tried to enter bios

devout dove
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i can’t

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there isn’t a display

royal copper
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make sure you have all the cables plugged in all the way and the ram is seated, sometimes it can go loose

devout dove
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all the cables are plugged

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and the ram is plugged in

royal copper
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I have to eat rn, but if no one else comes here to help ill try to come back

devout dove
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okay

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thanks

gray vapor
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I feel that pain

devout dove
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yes

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indeed

royal copper
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@devout dove what are your specs

devout dove
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@royal copper

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2070s

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ryzen 7 3800x

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32g 3200 ram

royal copper
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what mobo do you have

devout dove
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asus tuf gaming

royal copper
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which one, b450/x570, plus/pro

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also double check that the locks on the gpu and ram that it is secure @devout dove

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also maybe if you could send a pic of the pc

devout dove
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yea

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@royal copper i have the x570 plus wifi

crude patrol
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Is 3600x 16gb 3200 2070s good

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Planning to oc to 3600mhz

limber flax
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That should be good

half sapphire
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How would a RTX 2080 and a Ryzen 5 3600X run?

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Also, could you OC the RTX 2080 into a 2080 Super?

torpid garden
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Good
No

half sapphire
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shucks

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Does anyone know when EVGA Midweek Madness times are?

hard wren
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wednesdays every wednesday

half sapphire
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The exact time?

hard wren
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not sure think its all day subscribe to EVGAs emails and it will email you every wednesday to let you know

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they are still good now

half sapphire
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ok

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I might snag a PSU from there

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possibly a GPU once I get build started

hard wren
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pretty sure its all day every wednesday

spare relic
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Bruh

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Don't neglect the end slices of bread

wicked hound
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kinda late for that response

spare relic
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I'm not one to care for late response

limber flax
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Should have said 'time is relative'

spare relic
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Responses may vary

spice prawn
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this is just all kinda of silly

spare relic
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Odd, where's the lower end supers?

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And what's silly :p

spice prawn
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re: lower end supers: its the mobile versions, so what you see there, is the full list

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whats silly is the non-distinct SKU for the 1650 variants

acoustic ginkgo
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I'm currently thinking about snagging a 1660 Super for my build. I've decided as nice as a 2060 would be, it's just a bit out of reach right now.

spare relic
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Ah I see

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I personally want to buy a 1650 Super

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Today's low end beats 6 years ago low end, of which I have the Lenovo GT 730

spice prawn
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:)

acoustic ginkgo
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I have a 1060 right now. But since its in a laptop, I can't really remove it to reuse.

acoustic iris
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plus its a laptop version of the card...

rigid crag
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Whys your name white?

royal copper
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because they aren't in the server anymore...

rigid crag
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Lol they're parting words

royal copper
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farewell toko

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you will be missed

rigid crag
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Such a shame

royal copper
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xD

soft quarry
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I'm trying to find a good 2060S or 2070 but the prices keep going up and down- not to mention a normal 2060 is around $325 now

acoustic ginkgo
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I decided a 1660 Super was all I really needed, because I am not playing cutting edge games by any means.

outer juniper
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What would be a decent upgrade over an R9 390 for ~$250?

soft quarry
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@outer juniper a GTX 1660 Super would be a pretty good upgrade for that card for around $230, though if you can find a good deal and don't mind spending more you can sometimes get an RTX 2060 for around $275

graceful escarp
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Which rtx 2060 should i get

outer juniper
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@soft quarry Thanks!

soft quarry
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No problem

pallid musk
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2070 super starting to sag

mystic shadow
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Should I keep my gtx1650 Ventus 4gb or should I get a different one? I’m building a new system, 700 dollar budget

rigid crag
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Depends on what the rest of your stuff is

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I would keep it for a while and save for a 2070s or something

boreal turret
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Is painting my aio and GPU a bad idea

mystic shadow
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yEAh

boreal turret
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Is that sarcasm font?

wet temple
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no that's not sarcasm

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that's legit a god awful idea

boreal turret
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Why

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I'm not painting the PCB thing

royal copper
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painting can be difficult