graphics-cards

[lone pond]

the driver issues are honestly overstated and blown out of proportion

but if you need the encoding chip then sure

[wicked hound]

ew, that's a plastic backplate on it

[hexed forge]

my current gpu doesnt even have a backplate lol

[wicked hound]

I'd take none over a plastic

[hexed forge]

i could always remove it, but thats not a deal breaker to me

wont see it

although im not a huge fan of the looks of that card

i mean i gotta actually budget out to see if i can get a diff card or not, but 400 is a deal for a 2070 imo lol

especially if i can oc it enough

[lone pond]

meh

[wicked hound]

Eh, 2060S is $400 and the 2070 is basically 1% better then a 2060S

so not really a "deal" per say

[lone pond]

i think money is better spent on other things but if you absolutely need the encode it's fine

[hexed forge]

but then the 2070 is technically a better deal even at a 1% increase lol

[lone pond]

i have a 3900x so i don't even bother using the nvenc on my 2080ti but obviously if you're not running a beefy cpu you don't really have that option

they'll trade blows

splitting hairs

[hexed forge]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh look at mr money bags over here

i want a 2080 ti so bad lol

[lone pond]

i don't

i want my 3080ti

[hexed forge]

well yeah but thats not out yet

[lone pond]

i could honestly use 2-3x the gpu power i have now

and only then would i be satisfied

[gray vapor]

and they will start things off with a 3070 and 3080

3080 Ti's will be later

[lone pond]

i dunno

we'll see

what they did with turing makes me think they'll release them all at once seeing as how all the consumer aimed gpus are converging

[hexed forge]

just get 3 2080tis

problem solved

[lone pond]

i would do that if SLI scaling was not dumpster fire tier

[hexed forge]

do it for the flex

[lone pond]

i can think of like

100 things i'd rather spend $2500 on

like a new bong

[hexed forge]

oof

im just planning on getting a new gpu and vr headset

[ancient crystal]

the driver issue comes up every now and then but 90% of the time it's fine

i was scrolled up

you want to buy a $2500 bong wubs?

also i think talking about bongs is prohibited

[lone pond]

i have a 10k art insurance policy out on what i currently have

meh they can yell at me if they want, it's legal where i am

[ancient crystal]

jesus

well no it's because the server is PG13

[lone pond]

can we talk about beer?

[ancient crystal]

the server is PG13

[lone pond]

i get that but that's not what i asked

adults discussing beer in front of kids

[ancient crystal]

do you know what PG13 is? it's "suitable for 13 year olds"

[lone pond]

no, i obviously have no idea what pg13 means lol

[ancient crystal]

i'm just saying you should extrapolate from that

[hexed forge]

its been determined that talking about smoking and vaping is ok tho

[lone pond]

yeah i'm saying would they yell at a couple guys discussing beer on this server

cuz i fundamentally see no difference

[hexed forge]

cause seeing it happen is still considered pg13

so idk. i mean i see nothing wrong with it personally but im also not a mod

[ancient crystal]

they don't let you say the poopy no no words so i doubt they allow drugs/alcohol talk, that's just my understanding of the subject

[hexed forge]

i also just quoted silence of the lambs and noone called me out on that lol

maybe not lol

[lone pond]

i mean, they're tobacco pipes so

and yeah, i'm being intentionally obstinate lol

[ancient crystal]

screw it i don't really care myself, i just err on the side of prudish

i remember when i did that kind of stuff (can't now, it gives me panic attacks) i used to go into the shops and you'd have to be like CAN I SEE THIS TOBACCO WATER PIPE PLEASE

[lone pond]

yea even here in colorado you're not supposed to talk about it that way

[ancient crystal]

you had to specify tobacco in your language or you would get kicked out

[lone pond]

i figure if they had an issue they'd tell me to change my pfp

cuz i have been pmed by a couple mods for completely unrelated things and they've definitely seen it lol

[ancient crystal]

this was like the early 2000s though, where i lived in washington it is now legal

[stiff zodiac]

you live here a lot anni xD

gpu section

[ancient crystal]

yes

[stiff zodiac]

your fav room?

[ancient crystal]

i'm gonna change the subject on my part

i am not sure if it is my favorite channel but i often end up in here because people are like MEHHH MEHHH AMD DRIVERS or something silly like that and i end up just getting frustrated and having to say something

[lone pond]

yea, youtubers are cool but sometimes it spreads a lot of FUD

[ancient crystal]

AMD's drivers are usually okay

but admittedly sometimes they are not okay

[lone pond]

sure, i haven't used an AMD card since...2012? the 7950 was my last amd card

[ancient crystal]

and AMD needs to address that

[lone pond]

and i didn't even have issues then

but i am one person and i realize that's not a viable sample size

[ancient crystal]

i had a 7950 in like 2013

[lone pond]

but i have told lots of my friends to get 5700xts and other amd cards and never have i had one complain about driver issues

that was the last time AMD was on top of GPU things, how things have changed lol

[ancient crystal]

yeah because usually if there's a driver issue it's because they didn't account for one specific board with specific memory or something

[stiff zodiac]

they keep buying mech xD

[ancient crystal]

i think the 5600 XT is gonna be good

[lone pond]

it's definitely fine for what it is

[ancient crystal]

it's a good card for high framerate 1080p

[lone pond]

big navi is interesting but it'll get crushed by ampere

[ancient crystal]

well, AMD has their audience

[stiff zodiac]

we dont even know if ampere is for gaming lol xD

[ancient crystal]

and that's poor people

[lone pond]

like AMD releasing a card almost two years after and it just barely beats the 2080ti?

sure, they notch a win but

[hexed forge]

i mean ive also made that arguement. my cousin uses it and its just fine. i just like the power and nvenc that comes with nvidia lol

[lone pond]

what do you mean we don't know if ampere is for gaming?

[hexed forge]

also i like their software better. geforce experiece

[lone pond]

like they have turing consumer cards and turing professional cards

i.e. rtx 2080 vs rtx quadro

use the same architecture

[ancient crystal]

RTX quadro cards are double precision math and ECC RAM

[lone pond]

they will be building both gaming and professional cards off the ampere architecture

i get that, i am just saying claiming that we don't know if ampere is for gaming is not accurate

[ancient crystal]

oh well yeah

[lone pond]

cuz it will have gaming cards and professional cards

[ancient crystal]

ampere is the likely name for the new architecture

i get that

my card is like the lowest end Turing

lol

why i need a better GPU

i'm either getting a used 1080 or a new RX 5600 XT (which is gonna be a little bit less powerful in some areas but more powerful in others if you look at benchmarks)

[stiff zodiac]

5600 xt seems stable on linus vid he can turn all the way up all power , memory, clock,

without worrying about blackscreen xD

im still at 19.12.1 drivers .. my 5700 custom fan curve doesnt work on 2020

[hexed forge]

i would get the 5600 xt simply because new products mean you can rma it if something goes wrong lol

[ancient crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814131761

this is imo the best 5600 XT because the price is lower and the cooler is a nice small heatpipe cooler

[hexed forge]

but wait didnt you asy you cant use a card liek that?

oh wait no you're currently using a card like that

im dum

[ancient crystal]

yeah i'm gonna say screw it and use one anyway

[hexed forge]

lol

[ancient crystal]

as long as it's not too thicc

ha ha XFX

[lone pond]

@ancient crystal my pc is built

[hexed forge]

doesnt look to thicc

could always take a rotor saw to the psu to make room

[ancient crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5600-xt-axrx-5600xt-6gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131760 that red dragon though

[hexed forge]

what was your case again?

[ancient crystal]

it's a define nano S

[hexed forge]

oh thats nice looking actually

[ancient crystal]

fractal actually recommends blower cards

[hexed forge]

get that one

oh wait is that one to tall?

[ancient crystal]

but had said on a review that it shouldn't cause a problem

nah the define nano S is as w i d e as the define R6

so it'll take that extra inch

[hexed forge]

i have an idea

idk if you want to do it but

you COULD, possibly, get a pcie extender and attach it to that back wall

[ancient crystal]

velcro the backplate lmao

[hexed forge]

like to the right of mobo

nah screw through the slots

[ancient crystal]

screw the what now

i'd rather use velcro

[hexed forge]

i mean you could

[ancient crystal]

velcro is the best thing

it holds so tight

[hexed forge]

but the gpu has 4 mounting screws on the back too lol

[ancient crystal]

really

[hexed forge]

mine does

usually used to hold backplate on

but mine doesnt have a back plate

[ancient crystal]

mine would have one

[hexed forge]

these 4 screws

i think its for back plate iunno

[ancient crystal]

ooh this is the 7nm die shrink

also those are not really the right spacing for my case unfortunately

[hexed forge]

maybe drill new holes? lol

self tapping screws

[ancient crystal]

drill? oh god no no no

you're asking too much here

[hexed forge]

you're right

weld it to the frame

nah i realized in order to do that you'd also have to cut new hdmi and dp slots at the top too lol

[ancient crystal]

yes

displayport mainly

[hexed forge]

well yeah but id want all of em to be available at least lol

[ancient crystal]

because AMD is just like 3x display port and 1x HDMI

i love how they do it because displayport is the future and also is the present

[hexed forge]

id just cut a rectangle slot like the actual slot on back lol

[ancient crystal]

i'm just gonna put the card in my PCIe slot and go for it

[hexed forge]

i literally used DP for the first time 3 weeks ago lol

sounds like a plan xD

[ancient crystal]

i used it for the first time like 9 months ago

i now have a nylon braided heavy ass display port cable which doesn't have a latch so you can just pull it out and i love that

[hexed forge]

everyone swore by it but i was like nah i like my hdmi and get them expensive ssds away from me who needs em and who needs good games i have my nice lil radeon hd 5750 and my ddr3 rams

O: they have it without the latch? need

[ancient crystal]

let me show it to you

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T95JDWY/

i bought this one, there are others on amazon in different colors

[hexed forge]

i want but i dont do 4k lol

[ancient crystal]

i got the 10 foot because i was like yeah 10 feet perfect

you don't need to do 4K

it just states that 4K is possible

[hexed forge]

no i know im just sayin lol

i want a 4k monitor tho

[ancient crystal]

it's not like you pay extra for 4K displayport

you're paying extra for the construction on this one

aluminum housing, rubber sleeves around where the cable connects to the plug

nylon braided cord

[hexed forge]

ah cool. i needed a new tow rope

[ancient crystal]

lol

yeah

i saw that

[hexed forge]

lmao

who comes up with these things

i cant tell you how many of my friends literally ran over their phone cause otterbox

one friend was like "IT CAN PROTECT FROM ANYTHING" chunks it against the wall and destroys screen completely

[ancient crystal]

lol

sounds about right

lots of herping and derping in there

[hexed forge]

yep

alright ima head to bed. night

[mighty island]

anyone know why my 1080ti is suddenly running at 139 mhz

[lone pond]

Could be a reporting issue

Open up afterburner or x1 or whatever you use and check the clocks there

Does it stay at those clocks under load?

It is only getting .65v which makes me think it's doing the underclocking cuz it's not seeing a load

[mighty island]

i noticed i was getting really low frames while playing a game

i fixed it though

i googled and it said disable and enable in device manager

its supposed to idle at 1569 mhz

ok idk somethings still wrong

the clock speeds looked fine this time but its still barely getting any fps

[half arrow]

i ran out of cash when building my pc,,,didn't get a gpu

[tired swan]

... good job lol

[mighty island]

maybe it's confused cause I unplugged monitor 2

gonna restart pc

[half arrow]

was hoping to meet some good samaritan in here

[mighty island]

you were expecting someone to donate you a gpu...?

rule 9 btw

[half arrow]

affordable...scared of ebay

[lone pond]

Yeah sorry I doubt anyone is going to send you a GPU just cuz you can't budget

[tired swan]

there is a buyers protection on ebay right?

[lone pond]

Or at least no one will send you a worthwhile GPU

[half arrow]

guess i'll wait to stack up

[lone pond]

"I bought a car, but I can't afford insurance"

[half arrow]

i did that

lol

[lone pond]

Anything else I would say would not be helpful. So I'm just gonna say good luck lol

[mighty island]

I undid my GPU overclock and now my PC is just freezing in 3dmark

wtf

I'm so confused

[vital zephyr]

yes

[violet dock]

whats a fair price for a used 1070 ftw from evga?

buddy of mine wants to buy my 2nd sli card that basically doesnt get used almost ever

[mighty island]

well im back in the realm of sanity

now to see if i can get my oc back

[tired swan]

@violet dock where im at they seem to be going for around $200

maybe 175

[violet dock]

now the real question is it worth him buying it for 200 bucks or getting the newer and nicer 2060 KO?

or a 5600xt

[tired swan]

5600 xt is better

well they are both better

than the 1070

it depends if the extra $80 is worth it

actually where im at you can find 5700 XTs used for 250

[ancient crystal]

on ebay they go for new price

[stiff zodiac]

anni the vbios is there now xD

[fallow slate]

Going to look at some 1440p and 1080p monitors this weekend. If the difference is not meaningful enough for me, is it a waste to get something like the 2070s or 5700xt for 1080p 144 ghz gaming?

[granite juniper]

those are more 1440p 144hz cards, 2060s/5700/5600xt/2060 are more 1080p144hz cards

[fallow slate]

And those would have no issues running most games at higher settings?

[urban depot]

Msi or asus

2070 super

[tender mulch]

EVGA

[urban depot]

Lol

[tender mulch]

Yup.

EIther of those is fine

[cyan vault]

A 2060S is good enough for 1080p 144hz right?

[tender mulch]

Mmmm.....If you want 144 FPS on max settings, you'd need to step up to 2070 or 5700XT.

[cyan vault]

Is a 5700XT better?

I thought it was comparable

[tender mulch]

Will you be streaming?

[cyan vault]

Barely

[tender mulch]

5700XT is 2070/2070 super level

[cyan vault]

Oh

Its a lot cheaper too

[tender mulch]

But for streaming it's poopy, their encoder is not good

[cyan vault]

Couldnt you stream of the CPU?

And recommendation for 5700XT then?

[tender mulch]

You can stream off the CPU but it's a performance hit. If you want 144 FPS, it takes a lot of CPU to make that happen

1080p is more CPU bound than people realize

[cyan vault]

Hmmm

[tender mulch]

3700x/3800x might be OK

[cyan vault]

I could just get a capture card later then right?

Thats what they are gonna get

Or want to

[tender mulch]

Well, you can but how much is that? if it's more than $100, just get a 2070 super

[cyan vault]

I mean he doesnt wanna stream

That much

And if he did it would be minecraft or something

[tender mulch]

5700XT is fine

[cyan vault]

Red devil?

[tender mulch]

Yes

[cyan vault]

Aight

[granite juniper]

Red devil, gigabyte (windforce or something), nitro+, red dragon are all good cards

[cyan vault]

@light schooner what is that

[ancient crystal]

i figured out: i kept talking about wanting a blower card because of my case's orientation but my current card isn't a blower and it does just fine

so i am going to probably say screw it and get whatever

[light schooner]

@cyan vault 2070s gaming x trio

[ocean flint]

What’s a good graphics card for a 3800x

[tired swan]

for what?

gaming?

do you already have the 3800x?

[fallen schooner]

@vernal terrace please read the rules.

[lone pond]

i installed my nvidia drivers over the windows display driver should i have done a clean install of nvidia drivers from custom install

you just installed windows, and replaced the default windows drivers with the nvidia ones?

i selected express

oh, yeah

you are fine

nothing else to be done

ok i was worried

i was making sure you weren't going from like intel integrated graphics to a discrete video card

i dont do intel

but this damn bored has intel Ethernet port

well whatever your brand loyalty, i was just trying to understand what you meant

oh your good

nvidia 1660

those drivers are baked into windows

super

i don't even know if you can remove them

you cant

i am sure you can but it probably requires some finagling

probably

[spice prawn]

@lone pond you might curse at that intel lan chip, but just know that they make some of the best, if not the best lan controllers

[lone pond]

ive had some bad luck with them

[spice prawn]

normally, 99.999% of that is user caused

[lone pond]

or a bad board

[spice prawn]

a bad board should not cause you to curse a controller on the board

[lone pond]

but my speeds have been averaging 955-960

[spice prawn]

that is a separate issue all together

bad boards happens with the best and the worst components

that is a reality of manufacturing at scale

[bright glacier]

why doesn't my gpu perform well

[spare relic]

yes

[devout pawn]

Gonna need more info to answer that @bright glacier

[spare relic]

why does mine? because it's a GT 730

;-;

[devout pawn]

ooF

Rip man

I have a 1660 ti... completely irrelevant only ~5 months after purchase

[mighty island]

anyone know why my gpu is only reaching 60-65% usage even during benchmarks

[spare relic]

it's not bottlenecking?

[devout pawn]

What cpu do you have?

[mighty island]

R5 3600X and 1080Ti

[devout pawn]

Also, check msi afterburner for temps

[mighty island]

was hitting 100% usage fine yesterday

today it's only 65%

[devout pawn]

Might be thermal throttling

[mighty island]

temp is 66 at full load

idk what's going on lol

[devout pawn]

Hmm

[mighty island]

my benchmark scores are the same as yesterday when it showed 100% load

[devout pawn]

What memory and core frequency does it reach when under load?

[mighty island]

but when I played a game I had 15% gpu usage and 40% of my normal fps

[devout pawn]

Hmm. Maybe different settings on the benchmark software?

O

[mighty island]

1961.5mhz core, 6003mhz mem

[devout pawn]

That’s pretty drastic

[mighty island]

everything looks normal except gpu usage, power consumption, and temp

it wont go above 73% tdp

[devout pawn]

Shut down your system and reseat the gpu and power cables

[mighty island]

yeah i was thinking about doing that but im not sure why anything would have changed overnight

max readings

[devout pawn]

Idk man. My gpu suddenly started idling at 20° C higher than it used to after a new driver

[mighty island]

gonna shut it down and reseat everything rn

[devout pawn]

Alright, hope it works

[mighty island]

looks like it fixed my benchmark gpu load

haven't tested game yet

letting benchmark finish

[devout pawn]

Nice

[mighty island]

alright the issue is fixed in game 1

gonna try another game

alright nice 97% load in exodus

issue is fixed

ty for confirming my idea

wasnt sure if reseating would do anything

[stiff zodiac]

8ghz xD

[devout pawn]

Nice 👍

Glad your problem is fixed. Now I just gotta fix my own @mighty island

[ancient crystal]

i can't wait for my 5600 XT, I can order it in six days

i need to get paid

[tired swan]

nice. gonna be quite the upgrade from a 1650

[mighty island]

@devout pawn what issue are you having?

[devout pawn]

Gpu suddenly running at 45-50° C during idle

[hexed forge]

did you try cleaning it

[mighty island]

my gpu has always run at 50 C at idle

oop

[hexed forge]

thats not 50c

you lied to us

[mighty island]

thats minimum reading

[hexed forge]

how we supposed to help you if you dont tell the truth

liarrrrr

[mighty island]

[hexed forge]

shopped

what gpu do you have

[devout pawn]

No I haven’t tried cleaning it yet. But it looks clean

[mighty island]

1080ti

for whatever reason it's idling at 1569mhz core

[hexed forge]

if you can get a can of compressed aire id do that, but as long as it doesnt go over like 85-90 you should be fine

bleach your gpu might be ded

[mighty island]

it's new tho

[hexed forge]

im joking lol

[mighty island]

and the max temp is pretty good

[hexed forge]

yeah i mean it could just be poor airflow or taking in heat from gpu or other components

but its probably fine

[mighty island]

nah its just not downclocking to actual idle speed even when load is 1%

squiggles is your gpu downclocking?

clock speed at idle should be 100-200mhz

[devout pawn]

Hmm. I’ll try dusting and reseating my gpu when I can

[hexed forge]

also @devout pawn if you dont see any dust (assuming you can see in it well idk what gpu you have) then dont bother cleaning it for now, just watch max temps lol

but if you see any dust clean it

[devout pawn]

My front fans have slightly visible dust so maybe there is dust

[mighty island]

apparently if your gpu isn't downclocking you can fix it by uninstalling driver with DDU then reinstalling

[hexed forge]

iunno what else would cause temps to go up besides that, or poor airflow

[ancient crystal]

@tired swan it's pretty much exactly like the 5700, just a few frames down from it at the new factory overclock

[mighty island]

try it

[devout pawn]

Airflow should be fine

[mighty island]

im gonna try it too

[devout pawn]

I have 2 intake fans and 2 exhaust fans

[hexed forge]

@mighty island your gpu is just ded

[mighty island]

[hexed forge]

but where are they located

[devout pawn]

Front and back respectively

I have a focus G

[hexed forge]

directly on the front and back?

[devout pawn]

Well 1 exhaust is technically top mounted

[tired swan]

@ancient crystal ya its pretty good value

[hexed forge]

ok yeah that is fine lol

[tired swan]

especially since the 5700 was already decent value, at least compared to nvidia

[ancient crystal]

yeah

this is $70 cheaper though, and it'll push 1080p/144fps just fine on almost anything

[mighty island]

pog

[hexed forge]

it died

it died

[ancient crystal]

ded

what card is that @mighty island

[devout pawn]

He has a 1080 iirc

[mighty island]

air card undervolted to 0mhz @ 0mv

[devout pawn]

Uh

Rip

[mighty island]

lol

gpu-z was just confused cause I ran ddu

[tawny idol]

question, if the cpu does not have enough ram does it affect the gpu's performance

i have a single stick of DDR4 2400 at 8GB had to remove my 2nd one as it died XD

and my 2060 is showing some sketchy readings

lemme rephrase

its a 2060 Super OC

[ancient crystal]

it is not likely to affect the GPU's functionality

maybe slow things down a little

[tawny idol]

its on factory OC rn

you know you have an issue when its running the witcher 3 at 70-80% usage and only pulling 120-150fps on low settings

[ancient crystal]

the witcher 3 only runs like 40fps on my GTX 1650, it's amazing how you can take one big step and get awesome framerates

[tawny idol]

my 1060 could run witcher 3 on medium and at 60% usage

and still get 100-140fps

it makes no sense

[ancient crystal]

it's only worth it if you run it on ultra

the game is beautiful

i dunno about your GPU

that seems like it's bottlenecking way too much

[tawny idol]

i ran it ultra for a solid hour or so at 97% usage for most of it at 90-100fps

still decent

i have the Ryzen 7 2700 same as you

with a 750W 80+ gold to keep up with it all

[ancient crystal]

yeah i would suggest replacing RAM with 2x3200/cl16 since this is an opportunity

and then you can see what happens to gaming performance

RAM affects gaming performance

[tawny idol]

yeah i was gonna buy a dual ram kit for 3000-3200MHz

[ancient crystal]

2400 single channel is going to affect it negatively

3200, cl16

[tawny idol]

yeah

[ancient crystal]

that's what you need for a ryzen 2xxx series

keep up with the infinity fabric, get maximum performance

[tawny idol]

then again ryzen loves fast ram in dual channel configuration

[ancient crystal]

it does

also low latency

like you really need CAS 16

[tawny idol]

its weird how it hates quad channel XD

[ancient crystal]

it doesn't support quad

threadripper does i think

don't quote me

[tawny idol]

i wont XD

yeah so this is how minecraft is pulling on 20render fancy

then again minecraft is a heavily cpu based game

[ancient crystal]

i think you should just get some fast low latency RAM (3200/CAS latency 16) and watch your performance improve at least a little

[tawny idol]

i dont know what i did to my intel rig but that runs on a single 16GB stick and runs like a charm on anything

[ancient crystal]

it's because intel doesn't care as much about RAM speed

[tawny idol]

yeah but if intel went into the infinity fabric side of things all hell would break loose XD

[ancient crystal]

anyway, i am about to go to bed so i will wish you the best of luck, and recommend 3200/CAS latency 16 RAM

[tawny idol]

sleep well ^_^

[ancient crystal]

my RAM runs at 3200 and 17 CAS latency

thanks

it's 2400 base lol

and it's like two different sticks

i got lucky

[tawny idol]

yup

[round mason]

sooo apparently amd gpus had a vulnerability discovered

[spare relic]

they are very sensitive

be kind to them

[spice prawn]

@round mason nothing new about GPU's having that discovered about them

same goes for all the other parts in your system too

[round mason]

i mean ofc but thats a pretty general statement tho

[spice prawn]

as is your leading statement :)

[round mason]

well you coulda asked to elaborate :/

im not trynna slam amd

[spice prawn]

not saying you are

just adding the context for the lurkers that potentially dont know any better

[ancient crystal]

i'm still getting the RX 5600 XT, it's gonna be gud for high framerate 1080p

[peak jewel]

Though if your a game streamer than nvidia is ideal because of nvenc

[nocturne dagger]

@ancient crystal if you can get the 2060 KO and overclock it. the 5600xt with the new bios update was pretty much a overclock at its limits. the 2060 ko if overclock will gain over 10 fps to make it a better buy and also nvenc and other nice features as well and not any crappy drivers

[peak jewel]

yep

[nocturne dagger]

No one on youtube will do a overclocked 2060ko vs a bios update 5600xt on youtube though

[peak jewel]

Someone proabably will

eventually

[nocturne dagger]

so pretty much alot of people are blind to only stock performance which is dumb

[peak jewel]

I may or may not overclock

[nocturne dagger]

this is what i got on my 1070ti

stock fan speeds because of the icx cooling

[peak jewel]

thats some nice overclock

[nocturne dagger]

yeah gained 20 fps. and im pretty sure itll beat a 5600xt lol

[peak jewel]

Do you have 3 gpu fans

[nocturne dagger]

nope only 2

[peak jewel]

damn

[nocturne dagger]

its the evga 1070ti ftw2 its aircooled.

i love this card

[peak jewel]

Does EVGA even have triple fan cards

[nocturne dagger]

i game at 1440p maxed out perfectly fine

[peak jewel]

I will probably be getting the i5 9600kf and gtx 1660 super

so 1080p

[nocturne dagger]

1660 super is a nice card

my next upgrade for a gpu is probably gonna be a msi gaming x trio card

[peak jewel]

yeah I want the GDDR6 memory so Im getting the super

Hmm

let me look that up

[nocturne dagger]

those are sooo damn nice

[peak jewel]

those are sexy

[nocturne dagger]

but thatll be very far in the future until my 1070ti doesnt have the performance anymore

[peak jewel]

wow

why is the 1070 more expensive than the rtx 2070

[spice prawn]

because it is EOL

[nocturne dagger]

also highest temp on my card is 75 at 49% use lol

fan speed

and what naed said

[peak jewel]

ooh

[nocturne dagger]

buy one used on ebay for 250

[peak jewel]

that is about the same as a ryzen temp with a cooler

dont really want to do that

rather would get refurbished

[nocturne dagger]

most people clean them and will say in the description

[peak jewel]

yeah but refurbished means is was repaired

[peak jewel]

but there could be missing stuff

[nocturne dagger]

this is what mine looks like lol

[peak jewel]

Nice

evga rgb

[nocturne dagger]

i want to do a vertical mount to show it off a little bit

probably gonna do the cable mod vertical mount

[peak jewel]

Bad idea

vertical mount will lover speeds not just temps

thats yours

[nocturne dagger]

no it wont thats if its close to the case cable mod is very back of the case

[peak jewel]

oh

ok

[nocturne dagger]

and no thats a 2070 mines a 1070ti ftw2

[peak jewel]

ik

but that is the model gpu but I was lazy so I did the 2070

[nocturne dagger]

oh alrighty but yeah i have a big case i do a vertical mount itll fill it up doing that lol

[peak jewel]

at least it will work

[nocturne dagger]

yep i have the evga powerlink too because I got it for free lol

and the sli bridge

[peak jewel]

Gigabyte rtx 2070 is sexy tho

[nocturne dagger]

msi gaming x bro beats it lol

[peak jewel]

yeha

yeah*

[nocturne dagger]

i want a gaming x trio soo bad lol

[peak jewel]

but I like the look the card its sleek

[nocturne dagger]

oh yeah for sure lol

[peak jewel]

you might need a new cpu

unless your getting a 2070

[nocturne dagger]

they have the 2070 super

[peak jewel]

tyeah those are cool

[nocturne dagger]

they look amazing

i would overclock the hell out of it lol

[peak jewel]

lol

[nocturne dagger]

and a tasteful amount of rgb

not to crazy but enough to be satisfied

[peak jewel]

pretty cheap for this card

with rgb

[nocturne dagger]

550 aint really cheap lol

[peak jewel]

yeah true that

but for higher budget

its good

[nocturne dagger]

pcpartpicker doesnt even have a price link for it lol

oh yeah of course its longer and thicker than my 1070ti

[peak jewel]

bruh

[cyan vault]

OOf

[hexed forge]

i want

but i dont wanna spend

[cyan vault]

Same

[ancient crystal]

@nocturne dagger no need for nvenc, or slow ray tracing

as far as crappy drivers i don't believe the FUD

some cards have a problem in one driver update and everyone is up in arms about AMD DRIVERS BAD ALWAYS BAD

nobody talks about the vast majority of users who have no problem

why would you talk about them when you want to spread FUD about a perfectly good product

also the 2060 KO should be called a 2050, it requires an overclock to meet standard 2060 speeds

a standard 2060 at stock clocks and a 5600 XT at stock clocks are very similar in performance, trading blows

but with a standard non-KO 2060 there are significant price differences usually

[terse pine]

which drivers actually improve the graphics card itself generally? Nvidia drivers or amd drivers?

ive heard nvidia drivers had problems with the gtx 1060

generally speaking

[ancient crystal]

both companies release improvements in drivers

AMD had some problems years back with consistently bad drivers so every time there's a conflict of some kind now the FUD comes out

it was like the HD 4xxx period

around then the drivers were comically bad and consistently so

[terse pine]

ok

[ancient crystal]

there was no FUD about nvidia drivers though if they had problems

because they hadn't had serious problems 10 years ago

more than 10, actually

[nocturne dagger]

@coarse wigeon dude the 2060 ko is legit the same card but with a cheaper cooler and also a different die its not the tu106 die. gamers nexus did a video and it does better with benchmarking but same fps as a normal 2060 and thats without a overclock i would love to know where you get you need a overclock on it to get the same fps as the 2060

[ancient crystal]

information i read was that the KO was underclocked

[nocturne dagger]

no its not even underclocked watch gamers nexus video dude its not even the same die

[ancient crystal]

okay dude

[nocturne dagger]

its 2080s dies that didnt meet standards so they changed the name to a different one

[ancient crystal]

it is possible to read incorrect information

[nocturne dagger]

yeah whatever information you got is completely wrong

[ancient crystal]

i'm still not buying one though, so i dunno who you're selling to

[nocturne dagger]

if they didnt take off the cooler and read the gpu die itself you would know its not the tu106 that the normal 2060 comes with

i aint selling anything but spreading wrong information is not okay

[ancient crystal]

yeah, and i get that

[nocturne dagger]

i would love to know what website you got it off of or video

[ancient crystal]

you need to calm down though, i'm fine with rechecking my information

it's not important for you to know

that and i forgot

[nocturne dagger]

im okay i aint mad or anything its just wrong information is awful in this tech world

with noobs and everything they need to be told correct resources if not they get brain washed

[ancient crystal]

this video is incorrect

and yes noobs also get brainwashed by AMD driver FUD, it goes both ways

[nocturne dagger]

https://youtu.be/mUFRBnJdx3Y

there ya go

[ancient crystal]

watching the exact video now

i can google pretty handily

[nocturne dagger]

its for anyone else to watch as well about it lol

either way the 2060 ko is still better than the 5600xt

[ancient crystal]

getting a 5600 XT

[nocturne dagger]

i mean its your money i aint telling you what to get just spreading facts lol

[ancient crystal]

you're one of those people who only speaks facts, aren't you? one of those infallible people?

[nocturne dagger]

facts that are proven yes. I dont spread false information from wrongful websites or videos that are one sided

im not a nvidia fan boy either or intel ive worked with both

i give any company props that does the job right

[ancient crystal]

some reviewers get benchmarks that are better for the 5600 XT and some find the 2060 to be better

it seems they're just using different games and/or different workloads and they're roughly the same

unless the gaming performance of the KO is better

[spice prawn]

because the bios situation with reviewers was a mess for the launch of the 5600

[ancient crystal]

yeah

[spice prawn]

the game performance of the KO is the exact same as an equally clocked non-KO

it is the workstation-workload that behaves differently.

[ancient crystal]

so, of course we're just trading blows in terms of gaming

[spice prawn]

we?

[ancient crystal]

forgive my odd way of talking, i'm talking about nvidia's 2060 vs the 5600 XT, they just trade blows

[spice prawn]

yes. IF you have a card that has a new bios

that IF is the problem

[ancient crystal]

they just rolled out the new BIOS cards on newegg

[spice prawn]

and what got sold before that?

cards without that bios

[ancient crystal]

they only had the XFX cards to start with, then yesterday the rest of the stuff rolled in

it was the THICC card

[spice prawn]

and that is just for newegg

the are far from the only retailer

model does not matter for this. so no need to bring it up

also, i dont get why this server has not gotten the memo yet.

[ancient crystal]

yeah, but it means that i know I can personally count on the new BIOS for my own purposes

[spice prawn]

the KO price point is the pricepoint of bog standard 2060 going forward

nvidia slashed the price on the founders edition cards.

and those set the MSRP

[ancient crystal]

yeah, i knew that

but not everyone follows MSRP

[spice prawn]

not about that.

[nocturne dagger]

can also overclock the 2060 more as well and get 10 or more fps the 5600xt is at its limit because of the bios

[spice prawn]

people here have behaved as if the KO was the only card that was going to be at that price.

[ancient crystal]

also some KOs will be using Tu106

[spice prawn]

"either way the 2060 ko is still better than the 5600xt" <- and ofc it better be, considering it is card that is orignally positioned some 70 dollars above it

no, ALL KO's will be using TU104

[nocturne dagger]

yep sure will

[spice prawn]

because the KO is evga specific

[ancient crystal]

that i knew

[spice prawn]

this is their mess, and their mess alone in regards to the 104die

if you knew, why are you saying this? "also some KOs will be using Tu106"

[nocturne dagger]

well gotta get rid of dies that dont meet the requirements

[ancient crystal]

no, i ddidn't know that

let me find the site that is talking about Tu106

i think it was tom's hardware

[spice prawn]

whatever they are on, they are wrong.

[nocturne dagger]

i dont trust toms hardware lol

[ancient crystal]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-rtx-2060-ko-gaming-different-dies

[spice prawn]

not happening

[nocturne dagger]

thats tom hardware for ya lol

[spice prawn]

they will be sued from here to heckenfeldt and back

unless they call the 106die version KO-106

[nocturne dagger]

dude the amount of wrongful information they have put out idk how they still have a website

[ancient crystal]

because they have been established for a long time

[spice prawn]

yes and no

they have changed owners

[nocturne dagger]

yep to garbage lol

[spice prawn]

Igor, one of the originals, is running the german version. Which is still solid imo

[nocturne dagger]

either way I dont like rumors from websites until actual info is proven true and not false

from truthful resources

[spice prawn]

re: harvested dies: and yes, this is not something that is new, it has happended since the start of manufacturing really

[nocturne dagger]

thats also true

[ancient crystal]

watching gamersnexus' review on the 5600 XT, apparently you can update the VBIOS using amdflash so if you're more of a power user it's less of a problem

apparently lunar new year hit at the exact time VBIOS were supposed to be updated

which means newegg's new stock isn't likely to have it

[spice prawn]

https://puu.sh/F3Dt9/b28b153f0b.png

as i said

[ancient crystal]

yes, i understood that

maybe now i have less faith in newegg's stock

but the lunar new year thing could be an issue

i guess reviewers get samples where the local branch has already updated the BIOS

[spice prawn]

on the topic of repeating info that a person does not understand, but acting as if it is the truth/gospel. And then acting surprised that they get critique for it: The consumer IT space has a dire need for people to understand that just because they have 10 fingers does not mean they need to type 10 times as much as they see/listen/think.

and yes, that is a general statement

if people feel i am ruffling their feathers. That is on them.

but it is very very silly when people that are supposed to be aware of what they know and what they dont know behave in that way.

[ancient crystal]

there's entirely too much misinformation out there about things

trying to determine whether the misinformation is indeed such is difficult

i don't feel i have access to perfect information, but i wish i did

[spice prawn]

supplying context with what is posted goes a LONG way

[ancient crystal]

yes, you're correct there and I have been bad at that

so it seems like this is the deal: IF you get a good BIOS, the 5600 XT is competitive. if you don't, or aren't willing to update your own BIOS, it is not

competitive meaning in a price-matching situation

[spice prawn]

one of the things that is imo most interesting about the 5600 as a card series is that some of the vendors are using silly sized (as in huge) coolers from the 5700 series for them. Which ends up with cards that are very quiet

[ancient crystal]

that's something that's attractive to me

but i may consider the slightly more expensive 2060 if it's at 299.99 solid without any deviations

it's $10 more

[spice prawn]

time will tell how quick/slow the vendors are at letting that price through

[ancient crystal]

i won't spend $350 on one of them under any circumstances

the KO ones are $300

[spice prawn]

all of them are supposed to be from 299 and up

[ancient crystal]

all the others are 350 and up

[spice prawn]

as i said earlier, the FE has been adjusted down

[ancient crystal]

it has been yes

[spice prawn]

the FE is the msrp trendsetter.

[ancient crystal]

so you could get the founder's edition probably

but the rest of the cards are high

[spice prawn]

so, once again, the 2060 series are supposed to be from 299 and up

coupled with what i said about vendors a couple of minutes ago

time will tell.

but considering how many different cards you have had the "hots" for in the last couple of months

lets see which card you end up with when the time comes.

[ancient crystal]

i change my mind with new information

i'll be the first to admit that

the BIOS is readily available as well as the flashing tool for the card i want

so i think a 5600 XT wouldn't be a bad choice, for my purposes (even at default clocks)

[stiff zodiac]

yeah experience 144 fps in some esports game

[tired swan]

what gpu do you guys think should be able to hit 144 fps in gta 5 story mode?

1080p high settings

[cyan vault]

2060 ko or 2060s

MSAA?

[tired swan]

probably not

[cyan vault]

Probably a 2060 ko or 2060s then

[tired swan]

really?

wow

[cyan vault]

Maybe

2070 or 2070s for sure

[ancient crystal]

i reach peaks of 144fps with my card

it's not gonna require that much, 2060 or RX 5600 should do sustained

the reason to recommend the 2060 KO is right now it's cheaper on newegg than any of the 2060s they have

they don't have the founder's edition

[gray vapor]

@ancient crystal You know for most of the RX 5600 XT's right now without the Vbios flash the performance is pretty much up there with the 1660 Super/1660 Ti

and it was covered on that as well showing the difference between standard to with the vbios flashed

[ancient crystal]

you're right there

[gray vapor]

darn right i am 😛

[ancient crystal]

and arrogant, too!

[stiff zodiac]

🥳

[ancient crystal]

I plan to buy one and just flash the vbios myself

[gray vapor]

ya but not many people would want to run the risks

[ancient crystal]

yeah it's not really that risky

it's risky if you lose power

[gray vapor]

Gamer Nexus covered it and said there is a chance your system could start with with just a black screen

[ancient crystal]

oh they covered the actual flashing

[stiff zodiac]

flashing android is more risky than xD flashing gpu i guess

since it doesnt require a lot of steps

just cmd

and you can stil lflash it back

just backup your rom

[ancient crystal]

you use an AMD flashing tool provided by AMD

[stiff zodiac]

and its dual bios so

i never had dual bios card before

kinda nice to have those.

[gray vapor]

some cards has a dual bios not all

[ancient crystal]

most do because they have the performance and silent modes

and those are different bios

the sapphire pulse and the powercolor red dragon do iirc

i know at least the pulse does

[gray vapor]

XFX has it

[stiff zodiac]

the power draw rise because it added more ghz i guess

[ancient crystal]

THICC II

let'

let's get thicc

with what might be an unreliable cooler

dunno if anyone has reviewed the XFX models yet

but they have a bad track record with the thicc coolers

[gray vapor]

If i recall GN was using the XFX card which didn't look anything bad

[stiff zodiac]

if thicc design can hold more heat its fine i guess..

i open sidepanel and electric fan straight to it while playing

xD

[gray vapor]

Just use this case with the big fan blowing on the card http://us.coolermaster.com/images/product_list/en130823024886a6/PRDPIC/49_ee0a50a59c95b1e13d0594c8d7464bc6_1448054262.jpg

Pretty sure you can have the card on silent and still hit like a max of 73c

But still for a lot of people that doesn't know how to flash a GPU would have the performance of the 1660 Super which they would be paying more money and trust me while there are people that wouldn't have that problem there is still a lot that wouldn't take that risk

Also the annoying thing is if you want to RMA the card you have to flash it back which is a problem if the card isn't working anymore

[stiff zodiac]

its closer now on 2060 kinda nice

just wait like more months

its preinstalled

than doing it by yourself if you dont really wanna do it

[gray vapor]

ya but for all those people that would buy it already

[stiff zodiac]

just say its doa xD

[gray vapor]

The company would check the card and if there is nothing wrong they would send you back the same card

[stiff zodiac]

my 570 is shorted i i still rma it..

maybe it depends on store

[gray vapor]

They would have to still test it first just so you're not trying to scam them for a new card

[stiff zodiac]

xD good heart ^

[gray vapor]

Also they would know the difference between something natural and something you did

[stiff zodiac]

actualy they can fix it and resell it again as new.. if you buy on real retailer center..

but if they doing resell

[gray vapor]

They could also fix it and send it back to you

[stiff zodiac]

those people really needs to test

it was asus expedition 570.. and they receive a lot of returns on that card too.. i like the design tho big tube

xD

yes thats an option too

but when i return my card

they dont test it

i just say i think it was shorted

asus dont complain and take it..

i pay difference only thats why i had 5700 now.. that 570 is like 190$ when i bought .. xD

i though it has good thermal and stuff

thats why i bought it

[gray vapor]

Remember this as well the EVGA 2060 KO will perform in gaming as a 2060 but for everything else would perform similar to a 2080

[stiff zodiac]

just get the best from your price range.. like best overall.. depends on games what you are playing and activity.

[gray vapor]

1080p gaming and streaming i would still go for the 2060 KO

[stiff zodiac]

whenever we window shopping on gigabyte store.. they ask us what is your target frame.. they also had test pc benchmark inside very nice haha

and its on sale right?

[round mason]

the fact that 5600 needs a flash, amds notorious drivers. id just go spend a lil wit nvidia. they got nvenc and rt too

[stiff zodiac]

yup

i still hold my 5700 and wait xD

[round mason]

i was gonna get the 5700XT but the drivers just turned me off so i got a 2070s

[stiff zodiac]

nc

[round mason]

it was on sale too so that was a big factor as well lel

[gray vapor]

AMD actually did some fixing

[stiff zodiac]

aslong u can play ur games

on ur target frame

any gpu is fine

[gray vapor]

https://youtu.be/qdIPtCTqZS4?t=234

[round mason]

unless you are playing an unoptimized game like me XD

[stiff zodiac]

nope i like alan wake type of games.. or tales series

any that has story

[round mason]

im playing tarkov and damn i can go from 110fps which can dip to mid 50s

[stiff zodiac]

and it focus alot on story than graphics

[gray vapor]

i time stamped where he mentioned for the GPU fixes

[stiff zodiac]

takov that sounds like a guy from metro

[round mason]

ah you are thinking of metro

i played that as well

it ran great

[stiff zodiac]

amd release 3 drivers in 1 month

[round mason]

1440p RT on

ultra/high settings got me 90fps

[stiff zodiac]

because december 25.. adrenaline 2020 is fail

nc

disable fps overlay just play

i suggest to get some 3rd gen

to get more frames out of 2070

[torpid galleon]

I need help with uninstalling gpu drivers from an old gpu, and installing new gpu drivers -- may someone help me?

[gray vapor]

Use DDU

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/

[torpid galleon]

I have it

but I need help doing safe mode and stuff, plus I'd like the reassurance of someone being there to see if I'm doing it right.

[fallow condor]

is a 2060 and a ryzen 7 2700 a good match?

[tired swan]

i think the 5700 is better

and i think the 5600 XT is on par and its less

[fallow condor]

im not rlly planning on= going with a amd gpu

[tired swan]

but why?

do you need the nvenc?

do you plan on streaming?

[fallow condor]

yea

i want to try it out

[tired swan]

ok then that should be a fine pairing

[fallow condor]

i was orginally going with a 5 3600

but then saw that the 7 2700 was cheaper

and had more cores

so im planning on getting that

[tired swan]

ya that will be better for streaming

[ancient crystal]

i like my 2700

it won't overclock for some reason but that's okay

it's my special little CPU

[tired swan]

is the x version just a factory OC'd 2700?

[ancient crystal]

yes

and it's binned higher

so you can get better OCs overall

i actually ordered a 2600X

but was given a 2700

and i was like "merry christmas" because it was about that time

i'd rather have more cores because that's the future

[cyan vault]

Hey guys

So, whats up with the asus cards?

They arent appearing for me on pcp

[spice prawn]

hm?

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#m=8

[cyan vault]

For me there isnt a strix 2080ti, 5700XT, and more

[gray vapor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KDxbt6/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-strix-gaming-oc-video-card-rog-strix-rx5700xt-o8g-gaming

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xQG3C/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11gb-rog-strix-gaming-oc-video-card-rog-strix-rtx2080ti-o11g-gaming

[spice prawn]

@cyan vault check your filters

[cyan vault]

Hm weird

its back now

[dawn elbow]

what would be the best gpu for the price range of 100-200?

[gray vapor]

1650 Super

[cyan vault]

Between the 2060s and 2070s, besides the clock is there a difference

clock speed

[spice prawn]

https://puu.sh/F3UA8/d0b3d080c2.png

@cyan vault

[cyan vault]

Thanks

[spice prawn]

do you need more info?

[cyan vault]

Nope

[spice prawn]

good

[shy beacon]

everyone

[fierce tartan]

What

[lone pond]

Anyone know how to fix a code 43 on 1080 ?

[brisk flame]

Oof, you might have to ask Google that one

[royal copper]

Google is the key to all

[lone pond]

I've tried all google links. My heart is running out of hope with trying it all haha.

Might just be time to retire her

[brisk flame]

sad

[ancient crystal]

rip

if i decided to go nvidya does anyone know if (apart from statistics on UB) the 1080 or the 2060 KO is going to be a better option - one is older than dirt but the other i think might be a bit less powerful, 1080 is something like a 2070 i thought

[gentle lagoon]

I feel like my 1080 runs hot, most people say they idle around 40deg C, mine is always at least 50. Can anyone out there with a 1080 share their idle temps? Bonus if you've got a Gigabyte Windforce 3x OC (like me)

[vital zephyr]

That’s the 1080ti your thinking about

[ancient crystal]

what, you mean that matches the 2070?

[vital zephyr]

Yeah

It’s better performance than the 2060

[gentle lagoon]

yeah, I think the 1080ti and the 2070 are really close

[ancient crystal]

but a regular 1080 is still going to beat a 2060?

i know the 2060 KO performs like a 2080 for business type workloads

[vital zephyr]

I’m not sure

[ancient crystal]

but how much of that i'll be doing is probably limited

[vital zephyr]

You’re gonna have to look at some benchmarks for it

But I’d say

[gentle lagoon]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

[vital zephyr]

Normal 1080 worse

1080ti better

[gentle lagoon]

not sure about the quality of the data, but that one puts the 2060 a little bit ahead

12.8k over 12.4k for the 1080

[stiff zodiac]

aey 14k points rx 5700 x

[vital zephyr]

Yeeeee

[ancient crystal]

that's missing the regular 2060 i thought

welp foujnd it

nevermind

2060 being a little bit ahead is great because it gives me an excuse to buy a new card

[stiff zodiac]

buy buy buy

[ancient crystal]

this showing the 5600 XT as being like a Vega 56 is sad

because a vega 56 is a 200 dollar card

if you go on ebay

[stiff zodiac]

those cards discontinued

not even had 3rd party coolers

[ancient crystal]

yeah they did

gigabyte made one, so did sapphire and powercolor

so did others

[stiff zodiac]

ryo had Radeon VII beats titan xp

[ancient crystal]

that's because these are raw performance benchmarks, not real world gaming performace

[stiff zodiac]

ow

[ancient crystal]

if it was the 5600 XT would be a little bit below the 2060

like a couple tiers

and with new BIOS it would probably come close to matching it, if not match it

passmark isn't really an actual gaming benchmark

[wicked hound]

I mean V56 is a great raw compute card

[stiff zodiac]

1fps off

[ancient crystal]

V56 isn't all that bad for gaming if you've got one

but it's not spectacular

you could compare it to a 1660 Super for like $40 less money or something

huh

it looks like it doesn't matter if you get a 2060 or a 5600 XT

the 2060 is a couple frames ahead

[stiff zodiac]

yes

you can choose between anti lag vs rtx

[ancient crystal]

RTX isn't valid on 2060

it's too weak

[stiff zodiac]

xD

[ancient crystal]

also i dunno what anti-lag is

[stiff zodiac]

Quick Response Times i guess

[wicked hound]

Dont know much about AMD and how comparable it is to Nvidia's. Tho Nvidia's low lag input/"anti lag" is to reduce the number of pre rendered frames the CPU does to push to the GPU

[stiff zodiac]

i hope 2020 drivers are totally fixed now adrenaline 2020 offers

amd had integer scaling too ..
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radeon boost ( motion based dynamic resolution )
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