graphics-cards

[mental moat]

owh

[hexed forge]

oh snap nvm i had a 5750

yeah

my first gpu

still got it xD

[spice prawn]

aye, because the 5650 does not exist

[mental moat]

actually i dont have any knowledge about 5600xt really exist when i blurted "i believ 5600 xt exists?"

[hexed forge]

i misremembered the name lol

5600xt came out today

according to naed at least lol

[spice prawn]

the HD 57xx cards had a cult following here

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15422/the-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review

[hexed forge]

but it was an anticipated release cause its apparently going to compete really well

[spice prawn]

it does

it "forced" a pricedrop on the 2060

[hexed forge]

"ultimate 1080p gaming card"

which is nice

but i literally had a thing earlier where 2060s and 2070 are both 400 ._.

[mental moat]

i see

[hexed forge]

i dont get that

[spice prawn]

that is the "s" variant

[mental moat]

i guess naed told me to wait first because there will be a new gpu contender

[hexed forge]

no i know, but it still doesnt make sense lol

[spice prawn]

well, the 2060S does have a msrp of 399

[hexed forge]

2060 is going to be a nice even 300 soon

[mental moat]

i am looking at this radeon long list image, and spotted that 5700 then 5500 then 5600?

[spice prawn]

yes, as i said, launch order

[hexed forge]

but the 5600 xt is 289.99 on newegg

the 5700 is the most powerful card they offer right now

[mental moat]

lets say 5500 are more recent compared to 5700, which one would be better?

[spice prawn]

the one with the highest number

[hexed forge]

nvidia did something simlar. launched 2060 2070 and 2080, then launched 1650, 1660, 1660 s

which is a set of weaker cheaper variant

release order doesnt neccesarily mean newer is better lol

[mental moat]

but the rx5700 has slightly lower clock speed compared to rx5500?

[spice prawn]

release order = release order

that is all you can take away from it

@mental moat that is a completely different talk :)

https://puu.sh/F2ic5/db85d4dbda.jpg

that makes it a bit simpler to talk about

[mental moat]

hence it sparks my curiosity about trying to know radeon's card performance level

[spice prawn]

you can know the performance level by reading reviews

"X" number on a spec sheet doesnt really tell you all that much

because the vendors (nvidia + amd) does not call comparable things the same thing

[hexed forge]

Generally the higher the number series the better the performance

[mental moat]

i am sorry, i meant something like the overall performance level, like nvidia 1660 < rtx2060

[spice prawn]

higher number

just like amd

[hexed forge]

So like 5500<5600<5700

And 5700<5700xt

[mental moat]

ok

[spice prawn]

@mental moat aside from the "higher is better/faster" there is not anything relevant in the actual model name

[mental moat]

i think memory bandwidth plays an important role in raw performance here as well?

[spice prawn]

depends on a lot of things

which again is a different topic :)

[mental moat]

heheh

okay

[spice prawn]

i can highly recommend that you read some of the reviews on anandtech for GPU's

they write it fairly cleanly

[hexed forge]

Also keep in mind that number is better is not consistent across diff companies, 5700<2080

[spice prawn]

and they know what they are talking about

[mental moat]

i will try to read from anandtech but not sure if i will ever understand a lot of those jargons i think

[hexed forge]

it just takes some time. you get used to it and learn the stuff after a bit

i was in the same shoes about a month ago lol

[spice prawn]

that is why i suggest that you read anandtech, the writing is consistent

their comment section is on fire (in a bad way) thou

[mental moat]

why is that?

[spice prawn]

because people have opinions, no matter how little or much they understand of what they are reading

[mental moat]

i see

[hexed forge]

one of my favorite things about this chat is how few people there are like that

but there are some lol

absolutely adament that what you got is super terrible xD

[spice prawn]

people have opinions. they always do

very few stick to their statements thou

and with that said.

[mental moat]

that is humans i guess... hahah

[spice prawn]

i am turning in for the night :)

[mental moat]

i guess i am going off as well to bed

[spice prawn]

Best of luck Noovie :)

[hexed forge]

phew its early here lol

good night guys

[mental moat]

thank you naed

[spice prawn]

it is 22:15 here @hexed forge

[mental moat]

i think i might going to have a good time in this server

0517 here

hahah

[hexed forge]

what country is that?

oof

[spice prawn]

and i have to go and kick a server rack in 8 hours time

[hexed forge]

lmao

alright good night

[spice prawn]

likewise

[mental moat]

i think i need to reboot my head about pc hardware and stuffs again this year

[torpid garden]

Naed's a good one to listen to

[mental moat]

have a good day guys

[hexed forge]

naeds one of the best

actually i would say top 3 are naed spat and bek

[lone pond]

@wicked hound so get the 1650s

[wicked hound]

@lone pond idk whether Resolve uses the 580 or 1650S better. I just know that the 1650 non S is the one you mentioned and made sure that there wasnt any confusion between the two

[lone pond]

The 1650 is not worth it the 1650s is better

But Idk if it's better trying to figure it out @wicked hound

[wicked hound]

Depends on how much editing you're doing, what you're doing, etc. 1650S may perf better on some situations but due to lack of VRAM will be worse in others

[noble niche]

1650S most likely based on performance of higher models

[wicked hound]

@noble niche Talking about Davinci Resolve

seems like no one knows the answer as to 580 vs 1650S

[noble niche]

I am aware

It depends on what you're doing in Resolve

But for the most part, 1650S

[dreamy laurel]

is the 2060s a good 1440p gpu?

or is the 5700 better

[abstract monolith]

2060s is better than the 5700 non xt from what i remember

but its pricier

[magic pebble]

it really depends on the game and the resolution. At current prices the 5700 is selling for anywhere from $40-$70 cheaper.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1924-radeon-5700-vs-geforce-2060/

[wicked hound]

I mean... Why are we even comparing a 2060S to a 5700 non XT due to price differences?

5700 is $340 or so for a decent-ish card
2060S is $400

[magic pebble]

Thats what the person asked for

I wouldn't personally get a 2060S at its current price. I would spend a few more dollars and get a 2070

or get the 5700xt

[round mason]

getting a non S 2070 or 2080 is kinda dumb when the S is priced similarly for more power

@wicked hound that is a valid comparison cause on release the two companies pitted those cards againts each other.

similarly to the 2070S vs the 5700XT

[wicked hound]

last I checked 2060S and 2070 are same price, and the 2070 is more powerful (like 1%, but still)

[round mason]

you forget that the 2070 is discontinued

[wicked hound]

it was

until 2060S sale look like 💩 and nvidia was like "time to do 2070 again"

[round mason]

uh no

they dont make 2070 anymore

lmao

the only non super rtx card still in production is the 2060

[wicked hound]

Gamer's Nexus already looked at this. About maybe a month or two ago with the some reviews saying that the 2070 and 2080 are EOL. Then manufactures emailed them saying 2070 was being brought back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrSD-OgRF5k&t=857s

Checked a month ago, and 2070 prices were still 2060S prices. Now they arent anymore, $440 for a 2070 so production may have stopped again

[round mason]

lmao das crazy

but even if they did restarted it again no point buying non super variants

https://www.newegg.ca/p/1FT-0004-005B6?Description=2070&cm_re=2070-_-9SIACBD9P15003-_-Product

lmao look at this hahah

[wicked hound]

2060 KO is $300, not that bad of a deal tbh
2070 is now overpriced. But if it comes down again then it wouldnt be a bad buy as it is more powerful then a 2060S for what would be cheaper (again, that is if prices come down again)

[round mason]

i bought my 2070 super for 630 cad

[wicked hound]

Back when 1080Tis were still alive, I seen some being sold for 9k CAD, so like 6750 USD

[round mason]

my friend has sent in his 1080ti for repairs twice now xd. On his last year of warranty

[feral axle]

2070 super squad

[wicked hound]

My 1080Ti is still fine, so yay me

[spare relic]

these things should last a while

[round mason]

one way or another 2080ti will drop in price......and ill be there waiting to snag one

[feral axle]

ill just grab the 3080ti

[round mason]

for msrp?

[spare relic]

4160Ti

[feral axle]

sorry the nvidia 508080 ti ultra

[spare relic]

GRPLTX 6320Ti Super Duper Titan Quadro 💵

[round mason]

nvidia pricing:

i love em tho

where would we be without the R(amd) G(nvidia) B(Intel) of hardware

[spare relic]

[sad noises]

[hexed forge]

lmao

much further behind

[brisk flame]

gpu when?

[spare relic]

[hexed forge]

is ibm even still around

[brisk flame]

yeah theyre huge

they dont do laptops or pcs anymore

they do blockchain, cloud services, network infrastructure, and mainframes now

and a ton of other niche stuff

[hexed forge]

lame

[brisk flame]

not really

but it is 100% B2B

they literally dont sell anything to consumers anymore

[hexed forge]

b2b?

oh

[brisk flame]

business to business

[hexed forge]

business to business

[brisk flame]

yeh

[hexed forge]

lol

thats still lame. ibm coulda been yuge in the consumer market

[brisk flame]

yeah, but why waste time in the consumer market when all the money is in the business market

[hexed forge]

i mean, porque no los dos

[spare relic]

I want my IBM GPU

[wicked hound]

IBM would make a lot more money doing b2b then b2c

[severe bison]

what should i update this to?

[keen sentinel]

theres no channel for this so

Anyone knows a good network card that can connect to both 2.4ghz and 5ghz wifi

?

[coarse bison]

Hi. I'm very new to this server, but I wanted to ask something regarding used GPUs
So, I've been looking on eBay quite often and I often see somewhat cheap 1080 Ti's on there that are used of course
Does anyone have experience with buying used GPUs sort of like this one, and is it worth it to fork over 400 bucks for a used high end card?

[vital zephyr]

i mean

im poor so i cant tell you anything about high end cards

but all my pre owned cards have been in decent condition, and they havent died yet.

so id say it could be worth it, but just acknowledge there could be risks involved. @coarse bison

[coarse bison]

Yeah, I totally get that

[proud cypress]

any advice/tips for upgrading DDR3 gpu? kind of on a budget atm.

[spare relic]

what gpu

you could probably get a used one that's still significantly better than yours

if it's anything like my GT 730 😢

[wicked hound]

@coarse bison $400 or more for a 1080Ti is bad given the 5700XT and 2070S price

1080Ti is like 10% faster then 5700XT, so put theoretical new price at $440. Then Nvidia tax, so $480. Then 2070S, so back to $450 because the 1080Ti lacks features and can't be priced too close to a 2070S. You usually get 70% MSRP on a used card, not 90%

[hexed forge]

iunno a 1080 ti is more like 15-20% better but i wouldn't trust one at 400

[wicked hound]

No, on average is like 9-10%. Some games are significant tho

[hexed forge]

thats actually a neat tool

but idk i would say 1080ti is worth it at 400 but i wouldn't trust it at 400 either lol.

[spare relic]

what tool is that 👀

[wicked hound]

The tool of using reviewers who post it

https://www.techspot.com/review/1907-geforce-1080-ti-vs-rtx-2070-super-vs-radeon-5700-xt/

Techspot does a few of these kinds of graphs

[half sapphire]

Is the XFX 5700 XT THICC III Better now?

asking about its cooling solution mostly

[lone pond]

@half sapphire i would still avoid it even if xfx says its fix better bet is either getting powercolor or sapphire version

[half sapphire]

aight

Gigabyte is fine right?

[lone pond]

which version? @half sapphire

[half sapphire]

or should I just go for the OC version?

[lone pond]

i have not seen reviews on those versions but i do own sapphire nitro+ had no issues and aorus modal is about same pricing

[balmy cairn]

Random question but I have a gtx 1080 in my rig, will it be able to run at 1440p hitting 60fps? Thinking of upgrading my monitor but not sure if it can handle 1440p at a decent framerate

[lone pond]

after looking at reviews you cant really go wrong with first card gigabyte card its just matter of how much you want to spend @half sapphire

more pricier 5700xt just better clocks and such which can be achieved by manual ocing your gigabyte modal

yes the 1080 should easy hit 60fps on 1440p @balmy cairn

[balmy cairn]

@lone pond thanks, just needed some confirmation on that, thank you

[half sapphire]

Okay, Think I will just go with the normal Gigabyte version and ocing it a bit lol

I did get really lucky with an old 1060 3gb I had

clocked it pretty high

almost 300+

[lone pond]

@half sapphire just be careful on drivers part too

[coarse bison]

AFAIK, the Gigabyte card isn’t that bad of a card, so you can’t really go wrong With them

But on the other end, I’ve heard bad things about gigabyte in the past

Mostly as an OEM

[spice prawn]

they are all bad, they are all good

welcome to production at scale

[lone pond]

tbh i would be more worried on driver level than production quality

[granite juniper]

@half sapphire the aorus basically just has rgb and that’s it

[lone pond]

thats all they did wow

such cash grab

[cyan vault]

Yeah

[topaz plank]

i have the rx 5700 xt powercolor card and i love it

[lone pond]

I’m having trouble prioritizing my gpu over the integrated graphics, please help me

tbh 5700xt is good card its just AMD crap driver team thats need get fixed

@lone pond disable the integrated video in bios

Can you elaborate

I’m on a laptop

Uhh

How do I access bios

I'm not sure if you can do that as easily on laptops

Cuz most laptops will swap between integrated video and discrete video to save power

But it’s not even utilizing my card at all

Have proper drivers installed?

That might be the problem

Yeah it won't even be able to use it unless you have drivers installed

Yeah

@lone pond it worked, thanks for the help :)

[lone pond]

Glad that was all It took!

[ancient crystal]

why does nobody take advice about 5700XT as Nitro+ or Red Devil being the absolute best

[lone pond]

idk

[ancient crystal]

those are the best, the other OEMs are mediocre at best

[lone pond]

maybe do sapphire and powercolor not being known outside AMD cards

[ancient crystal]

yeah but they're great for AMD

they only do AMD

[lone pond]

yeah i have nitro+ as placeholder to big navi and love it

no issues

[dreamy dragon]

Vamps#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

Bad drivers

from amd tho

[ancient crystal]

eh it's not that bad

AMD happened to make a bad release

it's not like all their releases are universally bad

[lone pond]

yeah i don't hold it against them its new software so its always bad at first

[ancient crystal]

you can always roll back your drivers

DDU and get the previous version

[lone pond]

yeah my latest drivers been stable for me

[ancient crystal]

that adrenalin 2020 was pretty bad though

as i recall

[lone pond]

yeah it was

i just hope with Big navi we don't have any bad drivers

@ancient crystal you think AMD will go back to HBM for big navi?

I doubt it, it doesn't offer a lot for gaming with a big price increase

Rumor has big navi going over 300 plus wats

so it might be power saver to use HBM

[ancient crystal]

300 plus wats

wat

[lone pond]

It's going to have a high tdp if they actually expect it to compete

[ancient crystal]

they'll be using HBM

a new HBM most likely

[lone pond]

Node shrink or no, it's going to need to draw power to do its job

[ancient crystal]

it's their top tier card

[lone pond]

some tech tubers i been watching saying if use GDDR6 it be between 340-380w and they use HBM they can get it down to 320-300w

[ancient crystal]

that's like 4 8pins

380W

glad i can't afford it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone pond]

LOL

if they going use HBM than it proby HBM2E

[ancient crystal]

i'll probably have to save up for Big Navi instead of getting another GPU

i want the beast

[lone pond]

i have 5700xt as place holder but want HBM2E since i use compute power for work

[ancient crystal]

HBM2E is gonna be blindingly fast

wider than 2048-bit bus even

[lone pond]

i am hoping we see top card be 24gb

maybe 16gb at lowest

[ancient crystal]

24GB of HBM is probably gonna make the card 50% more than 16GB would

[main adder]

Anyone know what the best card for 1080p 144z gaming would be?

[ancient crystal]

RX 5700 unless you have to stream

then 2060S/2070

[hexed forge]

i stil dont get why you cant just use the cpu to stream. like isnt that how it was pre nvidia 1000 series?

or am i wrong

[lone pond]

less load on system for some

[ancient crystal]

yeah but NVENC helps out immensely

and you need a pretty beast CPU to encode 1080p60

my 2700 might be able to handle it

[lone pond]

i think only time nvenc loses it any say is when ryzen 9 and above

[hexed forge]

but if you got ryzen 9 money you probably have 2080 money

[lone pond]

true

i know how some people think its dumb how i have 5700xt with 3970x but since AMD cards are faster for computing workflows its better for me at least to big navi with 80 cu's

just hoping we see something at GDC for big navi

[main adder]

thanks

[lone pond]

Yeah I don't bother with nvenc cuz I have 3900x and play in 4k

So I have overhead to transcode to 1080/60

I think nvenc was on nvidia GPUs since 6xx series. I may be mistkaen

But my 980ti definitely had nvenc

Yea wiki says Kepler gpus had nvenc

[wicked hound]

@hexed forge even if you have a 3900x, the lows still get hit harder than just using NVENC

So stuttering is a bit more rough

Mind you it won't be that noticable comparing perf of a 3900x doing encoding vs a 2080 or smth

[lone pond]

depends on game

I get universally more stable performance with CPU encoding across all the games I tries streaming on my setup

[mellow dagger]

I wanted to buy a graphics card today this is what i was met with

MSI 5700 btw

[stiff zodiac]

nice

[half sapphire]

nice

[crude spear]

should i get https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tt7p99/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-dd-ultra-video-card-rx-57xl8lbd6 or a gtx 1660 super

[wicked hound]

1660S and a 5700 are completely different price ranges. $230 vs $310

[crude spear]

is that 5700 bad

cause the one you showed me yesterday was good but didnt match my build too well

so thats why im looking at the black one

[granite juniper]

not bad, but load

[royal copper]

=🔥

[karmic solar]

= 💯C

[stiff zodiac]

[spare relic]

if only microprocessors could be steam powered and work better the higher the temperature is

[violet forge]

HJAS ANYONE GOT A 1660TI IF SO WHAT IS IT KLIKE

[stiff zodiac]

its fine

[spare relic]

it's probably great

[stiff zodiac]

partner it 3rd gen if you want stedy 125-130fps on gta v

[tired swan]

get a 5600 xt instead

[spare relic]

oh heck

[tired swan]

yessir

[stiff zodiac]

any will do ..

watch benchmark

whole day

[spare relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4D1enUJYuU

[ancient crystal]

5600 XT isn't out yet is it?

[karmic solar]

Ok

[ancient crystal]

when it is i'm looking at dem benchmarks

[tired swan]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TS27SF?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

the shipping does say 1-2 weeks tho

[stiff zodiac]

sometimes its fast

[ancient crystal]

NEWEGG HAS THE 5600 XT

only XFX thicc II pro

and thicc III pro

[stiff zodiac]

thicc

is bios updated?

[ancient crystal]

dummy thicc

[stiff zodiac]

because amd promise bios update for that card more clocks and stuff..

[ancient crystal]

for the 5600 XT?

[stiff zodiac]

yes

[ancient crystal]

that's funny because that brings it closer to the 5700

why would they do that

[stiff zodiac]

yup

[ancient crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=XFX&N=100007709 601350459 the only 5600 XTs on

it is unknown whether they have been infused with this new bios update

perhaps other manufacturers are holding off on release until the bios update is released so they can flash their inventory

[stiff zodiac]

like few fps away from 5700 .. i hope they do same thing in 5700 too

since all 3 updates on xD jan amd drivers are all for fixing 5700 bugs

[ancient crystal]

and 5700 XT

[stiff zodiac]

yup

[ancient crystal]

which is effectively the same card just more stuff unlocked and faster stuff

[stiff zodiac]

yup because of its extra power x6 pin

just look how close it is

i dont know if im happy or not

haha

even vega 64 became obsolete xD

[spare relic]

*nervous sweating*

[stiff zodiac]

nice ^

[hexed forge]

best gpu on the block oer here

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-gif-8082140

[ancient crystal]

well butts it's not like i can grab a vega 64 anymore, i have to get the 5600 XT

[stiff zodiac]

yeah

[hexed forge]

wait why

[ancient crystal]

but maybe one that isn't as thicc (and expensive) as the XFX

the XFX is close in price to the 5700

[stiff zodiac]

gigabyte ones seems never raise a lot

[ancient crystal]

yeah but they also don't fit in my case

that thicc card would fit in my case and accept a good amount of airflow

[stiff zodiac]

i got my 5700 400$

[ancient crystal]

gigabutt is going to be a lot wider

[stiff zodiac]

yeah i need my little sis to hold it

i cant screw it vertically

[hexed forge]

just get whatever card you want and go broke watercooling it

[stiff zodiac]

so heavy

xD

[hexed forge]

easy

[ancient crystal]

that's not how it works u nerd

[hexed forge]

lmao

[stiff zodiac]

hahaha wrong contact = 100c

be carefull

xD

[hexed forge]

so wait is a new case out of the question? you could get a new case pretty cheap

[stiff zodiac]

oem case are cheaps

[ancient crystal]

new case is out of the question, i already have my PC built and have put a lot of time and effort into it

[stiff zodiac]

branded ones not

cases now adays is like mumble rap

[ancient crystal]

i also like the case, and am willing to deal with constraints

[stiff zodiac]

its kinda same xD

[hexed forge]

im never done with my pc lol

always something i wanna do to it xD

[spare relic]

computers be like that

[ancient crystal]

well i just mean i don't want to take everything out

[hexed forge]

no i meantioned the watercool cause i saw the evga gpu aio and it reminded me of your setup cause the card cover looks like a blower

no i get that lol

but then the price is almost 200 bucks

[stiff zodiac]

xD

[wicked hound]

lol, $200 for a GPU AIO

[ancient crystal]

seems pretty ridiculous

[stiff zodiac]

why not buy the water block edition instead. like Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Extreme Waterforce WB 11G

[wicked hound]

like $270 for a full custom loop

[hexed forge]

its like 179.99

[ancient crystal]

OH WELL THAT'S NOTHING

[hexed forge]

https://dealsguys.net/products/dg-evga-hybrid-kit-for-evganvidia-geforce-rtx-20802070-xcxc2fe-400-hy-1184-b1

[ancient crystal]

for evga/nvidya cards

[wicked hound]

I mean
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR&algo_pvid=783cb4ea-1639-4827-a307-a52670764bd7&algo_expid=783cb4ea-1639-4827-a307-a52670764bd7-19&btsid=a99ff845-d92b-428d-9189-cede1ac1d909&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_55

[stiff zodiac]

nice

[wicked hound]

There is your full custom loop for cheap

[stiff zodiac]

hows the temp

[hexed forge]

hei dont show me that i dont have the money to go broke rn

[stiff zodiac]

soggy tube vs hard tube

[brisk flame]

hush, ive already put 550 into my custom loop

[wicked hound]

about the only real issue is the soft tubing

[brisk flame]

soft tubing = best tubing

[hexed forge]

whats wrong with soft tubing

[brisk flame]

if you know what your doing

[stiff zodiac]

nothing wrong all tube matters xD

[wicked hound]

If you do lots of maintenance or dont want to deal with it. But hardline looks best

[brisk flame]

lmao, if I did hard tubing in my build, it wouldve cost an extra 150

[wicked hound]

dont think hard tubing would be that much

[brisk flame]

well, if you use enough fittings

[wicked hound]

unless tooling

oh yee

[brisk flame]

soft can look like hard

[wicked hound]

fittings

[brisk flame]

hard fittings cost more

also, hard tubing is like 4x more

and u need to be able to cut and bend it

[wicked hound]

Bykski/Barrow would probably be selling that stuff for decently cheap tho. Probs $75 more tbh.
Tooling would be expensive I feel like tho

[stiff zodiac]

the cost will be more if its already been bent?

or same

[brisk flame]

well, no one sells prebent tubes

[stiff zodiac]

because someone might fail and fail to bent

[ancient crystal]

you gotta hit it with a heat gun

and then bend it against a corner of something

[brisk flame]

you see, i have the heat gun, just nothing to cut a hard tube with

[ancient crystal]

and you gotta get perfect bends

[brisk flame]

kinks = bad

[dreamy dragon]

AnniAntipathy#7280 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brisk flame]

well, it just doesnt look as good

[ancient crystal]

oops

[brisk flame]

oof

[wicked hound]

fill it with some kind of foam, heat gun, then a special bender to get even pressure against the bend

[ancient crystal]

twice in the past couple days

what's my problem

went an entire month

[wicked hound]

Got pent up from the entire month and now you need to release it

[ancient crystal]

but i release it in other places and IRL also

so this is just the one place i can't release it

[brisk flame]

you can say hecc and frick tho

[hexed forge]

im suprised i havent done it yet lol

[ancient crystal]

i hate frick

[hexed forge]

my perfect record

[brisk flame]

i like hecc better

[wicked hound]

cant remember if I said 💩 or dumb but with an S

one of them

[brisk flame]

i personal favorite is:

i delete tho, cuz mods watch

[wicked hound]

mods can see deleted messages

[brisk flame]

maybe

oof

[stiff zodiac]

aw

[ancient crystal]

gj

[brisk flame]

lmao

[stiff zodiac]

xD

[spare relic]

smh

[stiff zodiac]

i dint see nothing

[wicked hound]

I am indeed happy thank you very much

[brisk flame]

i am 2

[spare relic]

jokes on all of us

[stiff zodiac]

oh

[spare relic]

none of us are happy

[stiff zodiac]

you are 2?

[ancient crystal]

i am indeed gay, thank you very much, but i am not happy

[brisk flame]

b happy

[stiff zodiac]

smile

[ancient crystal]

no, i don't feel happy

[wicked hound]

be unsad

unangry

[ancient crystal]

being happy requires feeling happy

[stiff zodiac]

hmm

what makes us happy

[brisk flame]

but if i feel tired

does that make me tired

wait

nvm

[wicked hound]

Yes, you go from Fish to Tired

[stiff zodiac]

what is happiness

what is life

xD

[hexed forge]

wait i didnt see

[wicked hound]

Your name is now Tired

[ancient crystal]

you guys should be therapists because that's basically all my therapist says to me is 300 ways of just saying "well you should be happy"

[wicked hound]

"Are you sad? Well just unsad."

[brisk flame]

tbh, happiness is just a chemical reaction

so it doesnt really matter

[stiff zodiac]

are you crying? then stop crying

[ancient crystal]

we don't need that kind of talk, emotions are real

[stiff zodiac]

xD

[ancient crystal]

we experience and perceive them

[stiff zodiac]

well i turn all my sadness into jokes..

[brisk flame]

and then at some point, we no longer experience and percieve them

[hexed forge]

unless you download your brain to a computer

[brisk flame]

making all previous experiences irrelevant

[stiff zodiac]

jokes is my escape

xD

[ancient crystal]

nothing is irrelevant, all has meaning if you wish to find it

if you wish for things to be irrelevant, then they are

[brisk flame]

wait

i have a meme for this

hol on

[stiff zodiac]

if body is modular.. disable feelings controller

xD

[ancient crystal]

that's actually how i feel mostly, is just no feelings

and anxiety

[brisk flame]

found it

[stiff zodiac]

let all feelings event return null ..

[hexed forge]

i apparently get anxiety attacks, but without the anxiety

[stiff zodiac]

you get attack then

[wicked hound]

Having something around you for a long time tends to make you feel numb to it, or not notice it. Being in a decent city and thinking of it as normal and nothing unusual, feeling a certain way for a long time will make you relatively numb to it, but it's still there a bit

[brisk flame]

mickeys first line is such a powerful statement

[stiff zodiac]

my chatting [00000000000000000]
speaking to mic [00--------------------]

[ancient crystal]

those are called panic attacks then because they are triggered by a panic response which is a physical response of the body chemicals @dull path

[wicked hound]

^ (*2) feel that sometimes

[hexed forge]

no like, i get this bad tightening in my chest and sometimes bad enough to feel like a heart attack, doc said its anxiety attack, but i never actually feel anxious. like im just kinda chillin doin my job listening to podcast, but if it gets to late, it starts. i dont feel like im anxious about it, but it happens. according to multiple doctors theyre anxiety attacks

[ancient crystal]

fight, flight, or freeze response we call it

[stiff zodiac]

new channel .. #therapy

[ancient crystal]

your body is just releasing adrenaline

and it's like ha ha ha how do you like this

[stiff zodiac]

i dint know theres a job that you pay someone to cuddle you xD

[ancient crystal]

i have the same

yeah

[wicked hound]

That job is the air

the air cuddles you

[stiff zodiac]

also you can rent family in japan

[wicked hound]

that sounds bad

[ancient crystal]

you rent people to pose as your family because you are estranged from them

[stiff zodiac]

kinda awkward if you dont play the roleplay also

[ancient crystal]

well japanese culture the interactions are different

so it's easy to roleplay it

[hexed forge]

roleplay has always felt super awkward to me

like i dont think its weird that people do it, but i cant do it lol

[stiff zodiac]

words inside the brain [00000000000000000000]
words being spoken [00---------------------------------]

[brisk flame]

^

[ancient crystal]

Tomie that's basically me

[wicked hound]

I mean, that is most people

most people dont speak most of what's in their head

[ancient crystal]

i don't speak much IRL at all

[wicked hound]

decent amount yes, but not a huge amount

[ancient crystal]

this is where i'm chatty, on the internet

[hexed forge]

same but thats cause i dont do well in social settings due to deafness xD

[wicked hound]

school is basically the only thing that keeps me from not talking physically

occasionally talking to friends

if not then I stay inside doing nothing

[spare relic]

life

society

it be like that sometimes

[brisk flame]

tbh, i feel like ive typed more words on a keyboard than actually spoken over the last few years

[stiff zodiac]

theres a certain lvl of closeness

before you can hear me talk

[wicked hound]

Like me and doing things with people, last year was the first time I planned to goto the movies with a friend (didnt happen lol), and im 18

[ancient crystal]

i don't do well in social situations due to being an autism, i thrive on being inside and away from people

[stiff zodiac]

irl

[wicked hound]

last year was also the first time I hung out with a friend and went around to do things for the first time in 2.5 - 3 years

[ancient crystal]

yeah recently i hung out with a bunch of people i hadn't seen in 3 years

i didn't talk much but my really good friend there who knows me and knows what i'm about was happy to see me and understands that i just don't talk much or if i do it doesn't add a lot to the conversation

[hexed forge]

i just wanna say that imo people talking doesnt have to add much to the convo most people just wanna talk lol. not saying you gotta force yourself to do so but yeh

i spend most of my time with my fiance and my cousin tho lol literally like noone else

[wicked hound]

I mainly stopped interacting with people when I realized that the only conversations that happened were ones that I initiated or ones where people needed me. Seemed like no one wanted to talk to me as a friend

[ancient crystal]

i just want to learn ASL for my friend who is deaf, i think i would be a lot more talkative in ASL because it's not verbal, i think we would have better conversations without me trying to get her to read my lips

[stiff zodiac]

i like being alone so it doesn't bother me.. i remember crying because im not used to being alone when my single mom is at work xD when i was a kid.. now i just found having me time is nice.

my me time is so severe.. the only place i know is home and school xD

[wicked hound]

same basically

use to as well for work, but then I started uni and had to move

so only school and res for me

I very, very rarely go off campus

think I could manage 3 weeks staying on campus, only to goto a store that is right next to the border of the campus

[stiff zodiac]

food inside campus is overpriced xD so i really have to go outside

[wicked hound]

I just got a eat whatever you want meal plan

limited hours cuz cafe is only open for so long, but can eat as much as you want

[ancient crystal]

i would be so fat

[wicked hound]

and whenever (so long as cafe is open)

I try to keep at least one decent/normal meal in a day, then just be semi unhealthy

[ancient crystal]

i'm already fat, but i'd be like uber fat

i have no self restraint

[wicked hound]

idk, im somehow lucky. Can eat decently unhealthy and do nothing for exercise and still look decently in shape

[ancient crystal]

probably just youth

[wicked hound]

probs I guess

[ancient crystal]

when i hit 30 i started packing it on

at around 25 i was a little bit chubby but nothing serious

then i lost like 60 pounds and i'm at an impasse

[wicked hound]

well by that age Ill probs be making my own food and buying it, so doubt ill be going too unhealthy

[ancient crystal]

yeah i need to start eating healthy

that'll take off a lot of weight right there

do keto for like a couple months and then gradually move to a diet that has whole grains (preferably high protein) as the only kind of grain

my problem is rice and potatoes

[wicked hound]

rice and potatoes are good foods

[ancient crystal]

they put weight on you though

i have some really delicious brown rice which is probably better but i also have like an 8kg bag of just medium grain white

7kg, sorry

[stiff zodiac]

my metabolism seems on peak .. xD i eat x1 rice 6:00 am.. x4 rice 12:00pm noon.. x4 rice again.. at night xD

rice rice rice xD

[ancient crystal]

lol

i will do that if i let myself

and just put different stuff on top of the rice

[stiff zodiac]

yup

[ancient crystal]

those little cans of korean spicy tuna, eggs, stir fried vegetables, leftover meat

[stiff zodiac]

now im hungry xD

hahaha

[ancient crystal]

the thing that's great about rice is that anything goes on rice

aside from dishes containing rice

[wicked hound]

hi hungry, im [INSERT PERSON NAME HERE]

old joke, but whatevs

[ancient crystal]

hi hungry, i'm dad

you make it the dad joke

[wicked hound]

I could, but that'd be boring

[ancient crystal]

feel when i'm just boring

[wicked hound]

like, change it up to mom jokes or smth. Make it bad, adequate, idk

[ancient crystal]

i'm pushing 37 and then i'll be pushing 40

boring is comforting

[wicked hound]

eh, boring is just boring to me

[wicked hound]

Also like how the topic changed so much. Gae to happiness to therapy to life/how lonely I am to food to jokes

on a GPU channel

[ancient crystal]

that's how the conversations here work for some reason

[spare relic]

mods are chill I hear 👀

[whole prism]

Ok

[alpine wave]

My PC fan's start spinning on start but VGA light is on with no post but if I reset it, it goes to a screen and actually works. This hasn't been a problem before

[cyan vault]

If I were to be playing at 1080p 144hz what gpu would be ideal

I'm not upgrading my monitor to 1440p ever btw

Just want max refresh rate

[cyan vault]

And would a 2700X bottleneck any rtx cards?

[fresh fjord]

@cyan vault wouldnt a 1660ti and up be good enough for gaming 1080p 144hz?

or atleast a 1060

[cyan vault]

Idk

Not on all titlea

Exclusing like metro exodus lol

[fresh fjord]

what games would you be playing?

[cyan vault]

R6, Civ 5, The most intensive game ever minecraft, and probably some AAA games

Just trying to find how to make it cheaper

[fresh fjord]

how much ram

[cyan vault]

I got 16gb

No more is needed tbh

Only gaming for me

3600 btw

https://youtu.be/mUFRBnJdx3Y

Uh oh

[fresh fjord]

what’s your budget

[cyan vault]

My total is 1600

For just the pc

[fresh fjord]

5600xt should be good then correct me if i’m wrong

i’ve been researching but i’m still a rookie to this stuff

[cyan vault]

Oh nike

EVGA said the 2060 KO will be back in stock this week

Id go for that if i were you

[fresh fjord]

so what i’m hearing is

it rivals the 2080?

[cyan vault]

Not in faming

Gaming

[fresh fjord]

editing?

[cyan vault]

In workstation like tasks

Yes

[fresh fjord]

ohhh

so i’m assuming blender would have a significant difference

from a regular 2060

[cyan vault]

Yes

[fresh fjord]

does it rival 2080 in recording as well?

[fresh fjord]

is it going to be $300?

or more

because right now i’m looking at it and it’s $350+

[cyan vault]

Yes

Thats the overpriced one

There is anither variant for 300

[fresh fjord]

and it’s coming back in stock next week?

[cyan vault]

This week

But will be in high demand

[fresh fjord]

because of the video

I was reading the comments and they said it will be changed

meaning the people who ordered it before it went out of stock have the advantages

[cyan vault]

Not just the video

Why do you think its out if stock in the first place?

[wicked hound]

Well if they change it then Nvidia would have lied, which becomes a major PR issue as they already said to Steve that it won't change

[maiden sun]

@plain sage

[plain sage]

Ok, thanks

I'll see if there are any used ones

Refurbished*

[wicked hound]

UB is pretty inaccurate

That % is much smaller on average cuz Polaris got really high on synthetics due to good raw compute

[final moss]

What’s the best graphic card to get for less the 500 and on a ryzen 7 x3900

[round mason]

2060S

im pre sure thats under 500

or the 5700XT

[ancient crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-56xt6dfd6/p/N82E16814150833 the only 5600 XT available right now on newegg are the THICC series

but it's less thicc than the originals

it's moderate thiccness

and it looks like it has more venting around the heatsink

i have to see a review of this before i think about it though

[gray vapor]

From what i saw you also have to flash the Vbios to get RTX 2060 quality performance

[ancient crystal]

you can flash it or just wait for preflashed ones to come out

or you can also just overclock it

a non-preflashed one was shown on LTT and it looks like 2060 performance (2060 edges it out when overclocked)

[fathom raft]

I have a 1080, should I wait until the 2100 series (Or whatever Nvidia calls their next gen) or get a 2080 super?

[lone pond]

Nah go for da amd

They are releasing next gen Navi series this year

ampere is going to crush big navi when it comes out, tbh

it's always going to be playing catch up

but i don't think a 2080 super is that worthwhile of an upgrade over a 1080

Any high end nvidia card is to e x p e n s i v e

he's talking about spending $800 on a card, i don't think he's worried about it too much

True

i would wait until ampere comes out to see if that's worth an upgrade, cuz at a minimum it will force amd to respond to it by (most likely) lowering prices on big navi

which may make big navi more compelling

Yees

cuz the uplift between a 1080 and a 2080s is not that huge

I’m happy with my 5700xt

[ancient crystal]

question: 1070? y/n

[lone pond]

if it's cheap

As an upgrade from 1650??

[ancient crystal]

yes

i'm looking at 1080s now

they're pretty good on ebay

you can get them for under $300

1080 is probably more powerful than the comparably priced vega 64/RX 5700

or more like RX 5600 XT

5700 is like $350-400

[acoustic rock]

man iv been looking everywhere for a solution to watercooling my 2060 besides going all janky

And its an asus a6g dual oc

gets kinda hot playing 1440p but its fine for what i play. Id like 30-50 temps tbh

[lone pond]

if i'm being frank, that seems like a tremendous amount of effort

like those cards are way within safe temps even with the crappiest air coolers

if you're doing some crazy overvolting or whatever then maybe, but i doubt you'd really be doing that on a 2060

but i wouldn't want to dissuade someone from doing a project just for fun

[mighty island]

[acoustic rock]

Ill have to check out that software. Does anyone know a waterblock that is compatable with Asus 2060 Advanced Overclocked Dual Fan EVO?

[lone pond]

i would use some more standard software for benchmarking

3dmark, ect

[green harness]

Water-cooling is mostly reserved for cards at the top end afaik

[mighty island]

that result is just from when it hanged on an unstable oc lol

i thought it was funny

[lone pond]

yea i really don't think it's worthwhile to watercool a 2060

[mighty island]

watching a 1080ti score in the bottom 8% of all gpus ever

[lone pond]

there are lots of waterblocks yes https://www.primochill.com/collections/rtx-2060

[acoustic rock]

There are waterblocks for 1660ti so im semi informed about the market.

Nice..

[lone pond]

ek probably makes a nicer waterblock but i don't see any at an immediate glacne

[mighty island]

why buy a $150 waterblock for a $300 gpu though

you'll get better results with a $450 gpu

[lone pond]

like i'm sure you understand that a loop just for a 2060 is going to cost more than the card right

[acoustic rock]

I think iv seen that one iv looked on several aftermarket highend sites for one that specifically fits. The thing is that i havent tore my specific card down yet to compare to other cards vrm wise and such.

[ancient crystal]

if your card is evga they make an AIO for it

[lone pond]

i think he said it was an asus blower card

[ancient crystal]

ah

[lone pond]

or maybe he said the twin fan card

[mighty island]

i feel like water cooling is for pushing a 2080ti to its limits

[acoustic rock]

No sites Say that they specifically carry that.

[mighty island]

not for a $300 card

[acoustic rock]

Im in a niche affordability range

[lone pond]

but you'll gain almost nothing watercooling

whatever you're considering spending on watercooling, if you sold your 2060 and upgraded to something more powerful would net you much better results

[mighty island]

you can get a 1080ti for $450 pretty sure that'll smack the water cooled 2060 way out of the park

[acoustic rock]

and i want to keep card for long time and i have a res,pipe,pump etc and just need a block.

[lone pond]

well if you have everthing already then it's an easier buy

[mighty island]

I got my 1080ti new for $400

[lone pond]

but i still think you're going to be let down with the results

[acoustic rock]

It gets 100 fps in fortnite jk

[lone pond]

i am still looking on EKs website for you so hang on

[ancient crystal]

i'm looking at a 1080

is there a huge difference between that and the 1080 ti?

[tender mulch]

Yes

[mighty island]

about 25%?

[ancient crystal]

or is it just like 20% or something

oh okay

[mighty island]

25-30 maybe

[ancient crystal]

that's not huge

[lone pond]

honestly

[tender mulch]

what

[acoustic rock]

So i do 1440p and the temps are 60 ish in eso but in frostpunk they get high with settings going into 70 ish ranges

[lone pond]

if you're looking at upgrading from your 1080

just wait til ampere

[ancient crystal]

i don't have a 1080

[lone pond]

imo

[mighty island]

idk about where you are, but where I am fb marketplace has 1080tis around $400-450 frequently

[ancient crystal]

i am looking to buy it

[lone pond]

oh yes that's right

well, it'll be a huge uplift over your 1650

[acoustic rock]

1080s i have seen for 200-300 range used easy

[ancient crystal]

gonna get one of those alienware pulls porbably

[acoustic rock]

1080 ti 400

[mighty island]

i was surprised to find a new 1080ti for 400

[lone pond]

i haven't seen any locally below 500 since turing release

[mighty island]

was going to settle on a 5700xt for 403 until i found that 1080ti for 400

[lone pond]

but i also don't check every single day or anything

[mighty island]

i like to check when i'm bored and don't feel like gaming

[lone pond]

yea a 1080ti at $400 is really attractive

[mighty island]

it's cool to see good deals on stuff even if i don't want it

or see people's poorly made and/or priced prebuilts

yeah according to everything ive tried so far my 1080ti is performing quite a bit over par for 1080tis

so thats pretty cool

[lone pond]

i had some guy trying to tell me an r280x powered pc with a ryzen 1700 was a 4k capable rig

[mighty island]

running +50 core +1000 mem

[lone pond]

i had to

[mighty island]

i saw a pc for sale on marketplace

[tender mulch]

It'll do 4K on the desktop

[mighty island]

i9-9900k, 32gb 3600mhz ram

256 gb ssd, rx 480

[lone pond]

it wouldn't even run CS:GO in 4k respectably

[mighty island]

why would you ever pair those parts in the same build

[lone pond]

what if it was something crazy like a prebuilt that had a 2080ti in it when they were impossible to get?

and then he pulled it and put it in another rig?

[mighty island]

maybe

[lone pond]

that's the only rational explanation i can think of and even that's a huge stretch

[mighty island]

iirc he was asking for like 2300 though

[lone pond]

whahauahahahhahahahah

[mighty island]

also that doesnt explain the 256gb ssd

and no hard drive

[lone pond]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-throw-our-heads-back-laughter-gif-4570373

[mighty island]

i did see one really nice deal on a prebuilt though

it was $1000 and had a 9700k and 2080

[lone pond]

also, sorry to whomever was looking for a 2060 waterblock, i don't see any on EKs website

and i would trust their blocks a lot more than the other blocks i linked

[acoustic rock]

https://www.primochill.com/collections/rtx-2060/products/bykski-asus-rtx-2060-full-coverage-gpu-block-clear-n-as2060si-x So im hoping this will be compatable with my card

[lone pond]

best bet is to message them directly cuz i have no idea

[mighty island]

i think 3dmark doesnt want to work anymore unless i buy it btw

[lone pond]

dunno anything about that brand

[mighty island]

any other benchmarks i should try

[lone pond]

just was what i found when you asked

you should be able to run it as many times as you want with the free version

but you can only do it in higher res with the paid version

[mighty island]

i'm running at 1080p

my monitor is 1080p so

yeah i thought it was unlimited runs then after like 10 tries i tried to run it again and it was like pls buy

so i uninstalled it

ill try reinstalling rn and see if i just did something wrong

i've only done passmark on this new OC so far so i wanna make sure its stable

[lone pond]

oh, hmm

i thought that was just a bother window, not an actual "you have to buy to keep using this"

[mighty island]

it was 5 am so im not sure lol

finished my build at 1am that night and was too excited to sleep

so spent the whole night tinkering

[lone pond]

first world pc gamer problems

[mighty island]

lol

i had to control myself on the budget for this build cause im still a poor student

[lone pond]

i wrote my last build off as a school expense

[mighty island]

$1000 for the tower and $200 for peripherals

ooh you know what i could actually try that

since i major in cs

[lone pond]

well

[mighty island]

it could be argued that i need a good pc for that

LOL

[lone pond]

the stipulation is that you're only supposed to write it off when it's an obligation to be in the class

like you can't write off most books because you aren't obligated and bound to have them to be in the class

[mighty island]

well it doesnt hurt to try

i will do that

xd

[lone pond]

but it's kind of hard to not do a CS class without a computer so

but again that's different than the class obligating one

i'm not a tax lawyer lol

i'm sure it's some grey area

[mighty island]

thanks for the idea tho

damn if i had this idea earlier

id order case/psu first and see if i can get those classified as education expenses

and if they pass just go ham on 2080ti and ryzen 9

i really doubt this will work but the chance is not 0

[mighty island]

so overclocking higher increased my fps in games as my passmark 3d score, but slightly lowered my timespy score

wonder why that is

[lone pond]

maybe it started throttling

[mighty island]

was like exactly 10000 before

[hexed forge]

what cpu

[mighty island]

R5 3600X

[hexed forge]

oh

uh

iunno then

[mighty island]

i didn't change anything on cpu or ram

[hexed forge]

what ram

[mighty island]

16gb 3733mhz 18-20-20-40

[wicked hound]

OCing what?

[mighty island]

gpu

[hexed forge]

no i know but i was wondering if it was being throttled by that lol

[wicked hound]

GPU core or memory?

[lone pond]

no

what i meant was

[hexed forge]

what are the temps

[lone pond]

is that if he overcloked it and it hit a power wall

it probably throttled back

[mighty island]

went from +50 cpu +250 mem to +50 cpu +1000 mem

[wicked hound]

lol yep

[mighty island]

cause i got better cooling

[wicked hound]

it's the mem

[mighty island]

everything saw large improvements except 3dmark tho

[wicked hound]

you cant OC mem 1000 and expect better perf

[lone pond]

try upclocking in a more granular fashion

[mighty island]

yeah i did it 250 at a time

[wicked hound]

you get more mem errors with such a high OC

[mighty island]

ah

[wicked hound]

GPU can fix it automatically so it is still stable

but slower

[mighty island]

so it's taking extra time to correct those errors

makes sense

[wicked hound]

which is why mem OC is so time consuming

cuz it isnt just stability tests, but actual perf tests too

[hexed forge]

you good with oc hei??

[mighty island]

i got a game invite but i'll dial it back down to 750 mem and benchmark again later

[wicked hound]

I have some knowledge I guess, but dont OC much

[hexed forge]

darn. ima try to OC my stuff a lil bit when i upgrade soon lol

but idk anything

[mighty island]

i thought oc was mostly about temps/voltage

didnt know higher vram clock could cause errors lowering performance

[lone pond]

there's literally hundreds of thousands of pages and/or youtube videos that walk you through everything you need

[mighty island]

yeah ive looked up plenty of oc guides and none of them mentioned vram error rates

maybe im just looking at the wrong guides

[wicked hound]

idk, I only hear it every now and then from people like GN

Did look into an system mem guide

and it mentioned it then

from Actually Hardcore Overclocking I think

[mighty island]

ya it makes sense

[hexed forge]

but is it possible to oc a 2070 to 2070 s levels

and still have it last for 5-8 years lol

[wicked hound]

I mean that depends on the model for cooling on the GPU die, mem, VRM, caps

usually GPU die and mem will degrade and caps may blow

[lone pond]

yea a lot of factors go into it but i ran my 980ti with a pretty high overclock for four years almost 24/7 and it was fine

[hexed forge]

recomendation to which one?

[lone pond]

now obviously i wasn't loading up the gpu all that time but

[wicked hound]

dont know much about models tbh

[lone pond]

there are so many hardware failsafes that it's honestly hard to mess up a GPU unless you're doing some shunting or power mods

that bypass those failsafes

[wicked hound]

EVGA Black is known to be good on 20 series, but idk if it does a good job on all

[lone pond]

the black cards are their "worst" cards

[wicked hound]

afaik best of the cheapest tho

[lone pond]

definitely worth it to get one of the XC models imo

well, sure, but the difference on most mid range gpus is like $20-30 and definitely worth it

unless you plan on ripping off the cooler and watercooling it

[hexed forge]

what if i get the absolute cheapest 2070, and just put my own fans on it

[lone pond]

but then if you're planning on watercooling it, you may be better suited by the high end cards (i.e., ftw or kingpin cards) because those are much beefier and designed to be ran at high overclocks their entire life

no

you're putting too much thought into it

[hexed forge]

ive never ocd before lol

[wicked hound]

I mean that technically can work. But cooler design still matters. Usually do that for noise factor rather then temps

[lone pond]

just go in msi afterburner and turn up the power and clocks until it's unstable

and you will be fine

like i cannot overemphasize how hard it is to damage hardware nowadays with all the failsafes

[hexed forge]

this is the one i was planning to get: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-gv-n2070wf2-8gd-rev-3-0/p/N82E16814932226?item=N82E16814932226&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+card+-+nvidia-_-N82E16814932226&gclid=Cj0KCQiApaXxBRDNARIsAGFdaB9KmBPu3bNAAqoT50wzQ9_I_hjC1mnDolPhnvWiyHDKlEQbQcnaR6EaAolXEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[lone pond]

if you bypass those you can and will probably run into problems

but if you're just doing basic overclocking there's very little that can go wrontg

worst case is you get an unstable OC and you just have to adjust your clocks

generally speaking

[wicked hound]

most concerned I'd be is the caps, if over a long time

want good caps that are well cooled

[lone pond]

honestly by the time those are reaching their EOL, it will be time for an upgrade anyway

[hexed forge]

on this card?

or like in general hei?

[lone pond]

do you have a fixation on nvidia or need the nvenc? cuz a 5700xt for like 20-30 more will be a better buy

[wicked hound]

in general
But also that card just seems to be extruded metal rather then actual fins for the cooler

try zooming in, cant see the PCB through the cooler

maybe im blind tho

[lone pond]

there are definitely tons of fins behind the fans

i don't get what you're saying

[wicked hound]

it looks kinda like this

[lone pond]

well, yeah

[wicked hound]

rather then actual fins with heatpipes, air that can actually hit and cool the PCB

[hexed forge]

i see heat pipes on it too tho

but yes i want nvidia

[lone pond]

it has heat pipes

i get that but i am asking why you have an affinity for nvidia

and/or why you feel you need it

because you'll get better raw gaming performance from the 5700xt

[hexed forge]

nvenc and better drivers lol

[wicked hound]

oh yee, that a plastic backplate?