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Ah, there ya go!
Welcome!
Ah, ZOtac is fine then
Then I will GO ZOtac, good evening.
Good choice and Happy New Year!
My cousin has a red devil rx580 which is a big boi but it’s also red and black. The outside casing looks like it separates into the board, red metal piece, and black metal piece. Is the red metal piece doing anything to disperse heat or if we use high heat paint to paint it will it be fine
Okay cool. He wants a full white build lol
Yeah, no issues with that.
Any reccomendations on what model of 2070 super i should get
k
lol @ amazonAIDS link
Yup
Are you going ti just game ir also stream?
red dragon less fans shorter heatsink so not as good temps but essentially the same card
But it looks cooler
oh well yeah the red devil looks way cooler
So quick question
Is Dell a credible merchant to buy graphics cards off of ?
Or am i better to get it off of Amazon
Uh, amazon. Dell is probably slightly overpriced
yes. I'm assuming it's not a Dell brand?
Yeah, it's fine then as long as they arne't overpriced
okie dokie
Hmm
Im kinda debating
Is it worth slapping on the 4 year warranty for 50 dollars for a 1660 ti
Would I need a g-sync monitor for a 2070s or do I just Get a 144hz 1440p monotor
Didn’t nvidia make it work on free sync monitors too
But gsync or freesync is only comparable with gtx 1000 series or above right
Gtx 10xx cards and above are compatible with fresynx
Fresynx
Bruh
Freesync
As well as rtx cards
Yep
Happy New Year guys.
Happy new year dude
I was thinking about upgrading my Radeon 7770 to a rx 580. The 580 is only 200 USD right now. Is it a good deal?
Is a used titan x sc for $290 worth it?
sure

looks like amd still having driver issues. one reason ill never leave nvidia lol
is this on all 5700xt or just the nitro+?
those drivers are sapphire's problem
getting the official AMD drivers which are going to be newer and less weird will solve that problem
same thing happened to me when i had a hd 7950 and battlefield 4 came out day1 they didnt make drivers for over 3 weeks kept crashing every round
as has been said before. There are no bad driver, nor are there good drivers
there is only drivers
there is way too high a variance in the level of competence both behind the screen and infront of it for anything more meaningful to be concluded.
Anyone has any tips or opinions about vertical mounting? 🙂
if you vertical mount with an air cooled card make sure you have a reasonable amount of clearance between the fans and the glass or your temps will actually go up. some cases have vertical mounts built in, but when you put a 2.75 slot width card or thicker the fans end up flat against the glass and will struggle to pull air in.
look at reviews and other peoples experience for the particular case you are looking at.
^
with an amd ryzen 5 2600 should i go with a rx 570 or a gtx 1660
What do you plan on doing with it, just gaming or streaming?
gaming and schoolwork mainly
my brother bought this
works perfectly
okay thanks 🙂
Alright I need some serious help. Idk if this is the right place to post this but I recently got a new psu and a rx 5700. I put the new parts in yesterday and it was working great... yesterday. Now, sometimes I randomly get stuck at 30fps in R6, my monitors turn black and say that there is no input, and the pc even restarts on its own in the middle of a game. Help would be greatly appreciated. Here’s the build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X94vjp
Did you get the latest drivers?
@lone pond well that's a bad PSU so I suggest returning and replacing
Most likely not the solution to the current problem tho. But it'll be better
Actually nvm
@peak pasture yes
It could be the issue
Ok. Could there be anything else causing this?
I didn't fully read. Just read 30fps sometimes and checked list. Random restarts with that PSU isn't surprising
@lone pond yes, there are plenty of other things that "could" cause this. However, the most likely cause is the PSU
FPS could be due to driver issues as well. But restarts I highly think is PSU
FPS could be power throttle
Cheapest decent one would be Corsair CX (nor CXM). 450w is fine, 550w is ideal for future upgrades
Note, wattage doesn't seem to be the issue with this build. Just the PSU quality
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is a power throttle?
also, IF you have the option, get yourself the missing stick of ram (This is not related to the problem)
basically the system not being able to go beyond X speed because there is not any power left to do so
(very very very simple way of putting it)
Wait, what is the PSU model. You said you also got the 5700XT but no 5700XT on list
I assumed the EVGA PSU was what you had
Thermaltake SMART 600W ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W
I got the non XT
why did you link a list with different parts in it then?
and to followup on that, what else on that list is not real?
ask Hei about the psu.
Is this your first build?
or is this an upgrade to an existing build?
@lone pond watch the language please
out of curiosity, did you ask anyone what they thought before you bought it?
mostly just watched reviews and asked on reddit a few times.
I was in the buildapc reddit discord once. It was the second most toxic place you could ever be in.
With those parts, what could be the problem?
not a problem as such.
i am just trying to understand the mindset
and as i said, ask Hei about the PSU
@wicked hound What do you think about the psu?
PSU is pretty bad
Lacks protections and is group regulated
Group regulation can certainly cause instability
So, replace the PSU?
Yeah. If somehow it isn't the issue you'd be best off without it anyways
how is it on the rails in regards to using it with the 5700?
Pretty sure it has enough wattage on 12v rail. But it's group regulated so 5v rail gets messed up when high 12v rail usage
Or vise versa
ok, thank you for the info Hei (dont personally want to deal with TT psu's)
Some TT PSUs aren't bad. But on average due to price I rarely can say TT PSUs are worth it
What should I get instead which is around the same price?
i have seen too many fried units
If you want to stay cheap the best PSU I can recommend that is good would be Corsair CX (not CXM). There is some TT PSU that was good with a mail in rebate but I havent checked in quite some time for that price and I don't remember the model unfortunately.
Will a gtx 1650 super get bottlenecked by an i3-9100f?
So get a CX450 or CX550. 550 lasting you for future upgrades
Alright. Thank you guys so much.
@cursive swallow probably by a small amount. But not much. 1650S would be a pretty decent buy
@lone pond also seriously look into buying the missing ram stick
okay thanks alot
@spice prawn Alright. Was planning on getting it about 2 months from now.
just dont forget
2060S or Radeon?
Depends on what you’re going to do with the cards. @lone pond
There are a lot of Radeon cards too
The NVENC feature from NVIDIA cards can help a lot if you’re streaming
But if you’re only gaming Radeon 5700 / (XT) cards are great value for their prices
@peak pasture i've been there before and it's the worst, people were hounding me about my choices and providing much more expensive CPUs and GPUs in pcpartpicker lists and demanding i take their advice, lest i be "ungrateful" or something like that

Omg is that for real?
it's the thing AMD needs to compete in the high end if it's true
it'll likely perform close to a "plain" 2080, but should deeply undercut it in price
as it is, the 5700 (non-XT) performs close to the 1080, so hitting the 2080 as a target shouldn't be very hard
the thing is, i don't see why not
the high end is all that AMD hasn't targeted
they've targeted low-end, low-mid-range, mid-range, and high mid-range
with their RDNA based GPUs
so the only thing left is high
Yeah theyve hinted at Navi 21 previously
The "nvidia killer"
So for sure smth high end is coming out
i think anything that keeps nvidia on their feet is good
Let's just hope those specs are the real specs
make them start competing price-wise
as of yet they simply do not compete price-wise and i understand they've got NVENC and ray tracing in hardware but AMD has hardware encoding./decoding too, just nobody is using it
and similarly ray tracing in DX12 will likely render the nvidia exclusive stuff obsolete by next gen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Core_Next this is a thing
Video Core Next is AMD's brand for its dedicated video encoding and decoding hardware core.
so i don't know why nobody is using it in the streaming space
it's been available since the first navi card (5700) was released
i figure by the time the ray tracing stuff goes obsolete streaming software will also use VCN 2.0
but by then AMD is gonna have to start releasing more powerful GPUs
because the 5700 will be where the 5600 XT is right now
its a minor downgrade of 5700 xD theres always a difference if it doesnt why would they release it xD
I would really hope that a 5900xt would outperform a 2080 super...
being worse than a 2080 would still put it in a crowded GPU space, and still will have no competition for nvidia at the high end
as someone using a 1080ti, I would really love some top end competition
If the specs are correct, it's clearly aimed at trading blows with a 2080ti
I would be very happy if that's true
But that seems too of a perfect world scenario
But you never know
Maybe it'll be faster even 
anything that challenges nvidia's ridiculous top end pricing would be a win
Indeed
I really hope that I won't have to spend over $1000 next time I upgrade my GPU, which probably be when the next generation cards come out
For 2k gaming does a 2060 do well?
Might wanna go 2070 if you stream or 5700xt if you don't.
Depends on your standards Perrin
It is what you asked. You asked if the 2060 was good at 2k
I provided options that are good
2060 is lower end 1440p
Come on im looking for big brain thoughts like how many franes i will get w no bittleneck etc... 
Basically he’s saying 2070 and 5700 are both good gpus for 2k and 5700 sucks for streaming
You can probably get close to 60 frames at 4k but it also depends on the games
Like I can run RuneScape at 4K with all the frames on my 970 but I can’t run like Witcher 3 at 4K
2K = 1440p
I have a 2060. It's lower end 1440p
If you want to max everything out, go 5700XT of if you strem go 2070
Yeah, the 2060 will be ~50-60 FPS in AAA titles
at 1440p
With DXR on it drops to 30-40
Overclocking to get 144 hz monitor to work well?
1440p 144hz?
If you have a 144hz 2k monitor go with 2070 or above
gonna need a 2070 super or 2080 super for that.
Thats lame those should do better.
Ill research it and overclock it and see what i get frame wise
Lol, I have the super
NOt super
RTX 2060
You aren't going to do 144 FPS at 1440p unless you're on low settings, even overclocked.
Doesnt make sense that i need the highest rated card to do a setting that isnt top of the line
Top of the line is 144hz at 4K which a 2080 super can barely handle
144hz yes 1 hz = once per second
Rainbow 6 siege benchmark
It can barely handle??
4K is still relatively new and processing a game at that resolution and rate is not easy
Noone has said that
You can get 144 FPS but not maxed out. Med-low settings with a 2060
While a 2070 super will do it maxed out
I should also mention those benchmarks don't have AA on either
I’m talking the newest triple a games at max everything at 4K 144hz is still tough on a stock 2080
Dam best cards cant even push max setting well lmao. Why do we give these companies so much money? Reminds me of beta testing but we have to pay.
As far as I’m aware at least
1440p has 2x the pixels of 1080p
I’m pretty sure monitors have always been slightly ahead of gpus
Always
100 fps is fine with me. 2060 can even do 4k avg fps 59!
6gb of vram isnt going to cut it though in 4 years or so.
vulcan is so nice though.
no kiddin
What major engines support vulkan right now, anyway?
guys what card is better:
rx 590 fatboy or gigabyte Radeon RX 590
1660 Super is closer to the price of the RX 590's and are a lot better
re: all the talk about streaming and the 5700/XT - the ASIC is there on the card, the software is just not taking advantage of it
Yup. The encoder is poo. It was thrown in last minute just so they could say they had it
ah
maybe they'll improve it on future iterations of RDNA
also they could've kept the old encoder/decoder
and just like added x265 to it
polaris and vega also have encoders
not quite how it works
Do all NVIDIA chip set graphics cards use NVENC encoding or is that limited to NVIDIA cards exclusively.
Where should I buy a 1660 Super card?
If possible overclockable.
Upgrading from a 1060 3GB for VR.
5700 XT or 5700 for my R5 1600 1080p?
I will probably wait for 4th gen to upgrade
1080p or 1440p gaming?
VR, for use with my Rift S headset.
Get an EVGA one
What is the difference between these two?
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1061-kr/p/N82E16814487484
Is it worth the higher price?
IMO, yes,
Is the difference in performance that big?
Not just performance but cooling also
So more OC?
Okay. I'll go w/ dual fan then. Thank you!
YW!
So I was here about a couple of weeks ago for coil wine in my red devil 5700 xt
Y’all suggested I get a better power supply as mine was under AMDs minimum requirement
I went the extra mile and got a 850W psu just cause it was on sale
But it’s still there
what psu
higher wattage does not automatically mean better
I asked about the psu in the other chat and people said it was good
RMx 2019? 2018?
@tender mulch the rmx is the one that Hei complains about all the time no?
ah, yes
Idk doesn’t say
Sapphire 5700XT?
That psu should be fine what’s wrong with it
Coil whine
Doing some reading
What is coil whine? A noise thing?
You can turn down the GPU frequency to like 30-35% and then faster when it's in game
Can you try that?
Yeh ok I’m deaf so noise doesn’t do anything for me lol
it's a high pitched whine or squeal from capacitors on the cards
Typically a power issue, poor filtering
Does that mean something is bad or is it just annoying?
Turned it down to 1300 MHz and still whining
Only happened in game
The second I close the game it stops
yeah, that seems to a be a thing with them
You can RMA
But the new one may have it also. Won't know until you try
Guess I’ll try while I still can
If a different PSU didn't fix it I'd say so. I mean, do you have a ton of fans or an AIO or anything?
Welp thx again guys
Possible? yes. Worth it? No....need an external power brick for it
Also, you'll need the GPU plus an enclosure which is $200-300
ah so im better off saveing to build a pc
1080p? 1440p? Max settings or just playable.
You could do something like this, change to 16GB of RAM and a better GPU. maybe, $600-700
man that memory price it is so cheap now
It's only 8 GB though
$500 build, gotta budget somewhere
could go with used and get a 4770k or an x3470 if you can find a bundle or motherboard.
people are stingy with those 4770k's
I keep looking for a used system with something similar for my nephew
that ryzen 5 do you know if tit come with its own cooler
Yes
all ive gott to pick now is the video card
what graphics card would you recommend
in that price range a 580
570 or 580
Yeah that’s right
Permission denied lol
the radeon wont come up do you know if it is compatible
The GPU will be compatible
Don’t worry
And yeah maybe you can find a faster memory kit for around the same price as the LPX 3000
like 20% performance
im in my final year of gcse computer science so i know a little
580 is usually the lowest priced GPU I recommend for modern gaming
580 will last you a few years I would say
570 will do it but its going to be struggling much quicker
theyre both closely priced so ill go with the 580
Whereas you might want to upgrade the 570 to another GPU when more demanding games are released
Yep good choice
Try and see if there are 16GB kits 3200mhz > 3000 btw
And they aren’t too expensive nowadays
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144264?Item=N82E16813144264 what video card will be best for this motherboard
so 1 stick of 16 or 2 8
2x8 is better
and what ram is best also
@lone pond what did you want to do with that card
i have $806 so far in my cart
@covert parcel 2*8 gigs is better yeh
im just using a monitor with dvi
i want one that can handle any game
idk
At what resolution
I feel like if you are going to spend $1500 on a gaming PC we are in 2070S territory
Yup
i have ram left to buy also
heres the ram size that will work 4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/
thats a great build he linked
^
32g is overkill but it fills all the slots and looks pretty
just which size should i get 4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/
any particular reason we need to get an MSI board because I wouldnt
which motherboard should i get that will work with this processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3800x/p/N82E16819113104?Item=9SIA85VA225165
and which ram
@tender mulch I dont recall the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 being that good for its price. Could be wrong on that tho
its only 139.99 right not
Nope
and the Asus Tuf one isnt on super sale anymore 😦
terrible value
will this work
for that 5500
because i use dvi
uck no
Your monitor doen't have HDMI at all?
nope
No GPU is PCI-E 4.0 yet
oh so go with this video card
Weird flex but ok
💪🏼
and what ram for my motherboard
DDR4 3600 CL16
that will work with this motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157884?Item=N82E16813157884
DDR4 3600 CL16
Any brand, any quantity to those specs
RGB, No RGB, Crucial, Oloy, G SKill, whatever you want
but that will work with this motherboard thats what im asking
Yez
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880 good price on this one
thanks
$1200 for my pc
cool Its a good card
i left consoles because of there trash support
@tender mulch yeah looked into the Asrock board. Trades blows with other decent cheap x570
I think the Prime P is also at that price point
poor MSI hope they do better next time
Look at the 5700's this time around. MSI flopped those and the X570 boards
Seems like their mobos took an eye for an eye. Simply amazing b450/x470 for bad x570
I feel bad constantly telling people not to get one. They still have that name recognition seems like everyone chooses an MSI board first lol
Ah yes, brand recognition. That's always real fun for PSUs
I had an msi a long time ago and it was fine but lately I've been all gigabyte
im doing liquid cooling also
I had one ASROCk board. It didn't die but it was super budget
what liquid cooler would be best
@hard wren i found a bundle with a motherboard and 16gb of ram for 150. They are out there you just have to be on top of them when they are posted. And you have to be willing to lowball their high price
RGB or non, doesn't matter
or Evga clc 280
I mean custom CPU only liquid cooling is $115
I do only use the evga 280 in my media pc now but I dont find that it ramps up very often but yeah if it does its loud
Yeah, that one
Corsair H100i
I have an EVGA CLC 260
But i put SIlent Wings fans on it
Custom loop, CPU kit only for $115 Aliexpress ftw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32918824371.html
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so use the one i select
The stock EVGA fans are simply obnoxious
but the fans do look really cool lol
@tender mulch thats a god tier aio
LMAO did you see the cooler Linus reviewd yesterday?
Yes!
yeah the double
no
That weird GPU CPU duo
yeah he sounded sick or like steve-o
OH yeah, sick for sure
Yeah
right and when they reseated it it worked just fine
that link i sent you should i buy that one
Yes
thanks
OH, he's a dork for sure
Being his employee would suck
they do make good videos though
thanks for helping me
Linus sounds like Steve-O on drugs.
Oh wait.
I also really want that all white pc with the lcd side panel kyle (bitwit) built
lmao
Dont understand why he does an asian person impression sometimes but
Kyle is okay, but lacks actual PC knowledge
He has some
He's built a lot though
I don't understand how people like that have so much money for those pc's
yet still recommends DRAM-less SSDs, 💩 PSUs, bad airflow cases
Pretty glad we got GN with good knowledge. Sometimes incorrect. Not like humans can be perfect tho
Well, GN needs to look a bit more into PSUs as well. Hope he gets into them soon. His recent guide used a not so great PSU as well unfortunately
I seem to only have a corsair PSU curse so I buy evga supernova usually
I know they dont make bad PSUs
I've got a thermaltake now, 700W, have for years
just unlucky with corsair
Supernova is kinda meh tho. Only good Supernova was the G2 which is overpriced now
P2 is quite good. Pretty sure P2 and T2 are the few decent 1400w+ PSUs
wife got the G+ not sure about that one
G+ has a bad price, but isnt 💩
thats good so far no issues
pretty sure it's like CX or CXM quality
but your Corsair Curse wont work well with that so
same time? Could've been a bad batch
I think so too because they have good reviews and I know people that have them with no issues. It was all during a 2-3 month period
My ultimate trooper PSU though is a 600w antec truepower that thing is at least 20 years old and still runs like the day I bought it
That is def before my time
It didnt like a 2080ti and 8700k though 😦 so I had to move it to another pc
well that and the ketchup mustardiness
I mean OCed 8700k and 2080Ti would pull like 525w - 575w alone
yeah it would black screen during games
yeah, with system wattage added and then age of PSU not being capable of doing full 600w probably
went 1000w for no real good reason 750w probably would be fine
Pretty sure that consume max of 650w. So 700w or more would be a good choice
yep spot on calculators said right around 649w
rule of thumb is 15-20% extra. PSU most efficient at 80% load or so
but now i have pump and rad fans plus I have another rad with fans that I plan on adding if I ever get the nerve up and buy a waterblock for my gpu
I also need to flash the bios on the gpu so it can draw more power apparently but im a 🐔
@tender mulch I wouldnt go for the efficiency point. It's a 2% difference usually from peak efficiency to 100% load efficiency. Just go for lifetime as PSUs tend to lose their max wattage over a long time
water block or bios flash?
everyone says you should flash the bios on the FE cards so they can draw a full 300w
Why not be scared of flashing mobo BIOS?
mobo = $100 gpu =$1500
yet so so scared about GPU BIOS as if failure rate is 200000% more
Because that is done directly in a USB port, not through sometimes glitchy software
👀
So long as you know what you're doing, failure rates shouldnt be much higher than mobo BIOS flash
I should do it right. I have been trying to get my nerve up and just do it
supposedly its safer now
Me and @tender mulch could just have hold over fears from the past
Is the 2060 super worth it over the 2060?
should probably get an RX 5700 for the same price as the 2060 and have performance like the 2060 Super - unless you need NVENC for streaming, in which case i'd say the 2060 S is worth it if you have the budget
well i dunno, i think the 5700 is cheaper, actually
It’s been a long time since I’ve used an ATI/AMD GPU, But I thought the latest generation models from them and nV all had live capable hardware encoding for both 264 and now HEVC?
AMD has it but apparently it's bad and it's not supported by abnything
Although, and I forget the other thing that would need to be used with nvenc, but I seem to recall that nVidia gpu’s can do encoding 100% non-cpu assisted
Kinda like purevideo(TM)? 😉
guys i have an ASUS Dual RX 580 O4G
is it possible to solder additional VRAM and flash the bios and make it an ASUS Dual RX580 O8G?
Well a few things
-you need a high end soldering kit to solder a bunch of really small contact points really close to each other
-you need the skill required to solder many small points close to each other
-I wouldnt be surprised if it was hardware locked on the GPU die as well
-Where you going to source the memory?
no it's just a question out of Curiosity
because every time when i see someone dissemble a GPU there will be some blank spot for VRAM
So the GTX 970 have 3.5GB of decent speed VRAM and .5GB of slow VRAM. iirc that was because of it being a cut down 980 with a bad memory module in the GPU die itself. So that memory module couldnt support the full bandwidth needed for that extra .5GB. Could be wrong about that tho
Anyways, could be similar with the 580
soldering vram upgrades has been done successfully with many different gpu’s, but it’s extremely delicate and sometimes requires firmware manipulation, realistically there’s very few circumstances when it would ever be worth the attempt,
I read or watched one recently where they made a nVidia card faster than any currently sold, and they killed the first <$1000 board they tried it with.
@wicked hound there was not a bad mem module. it was an intentional ROP/MC disable that lead to the segmented memory. However, the performance hit comes from access to one segment blocking access to the other (in that specific cycle)
5500xt or 1650s ?
1650super no doubt
if you can wait a day, i would highly recommend doing so. since CES is happening right now
and amd is rumoured to unveil the 5600 series at CES. IF that happens, it might move things around for you
1660 super is cool if you can stretch your budget...
2060 super is the best mid mid-range card
already leaked pics
yes, but we dont know the full details yet @hard wren launch date and price being the most interesting
oh I know just figure it has to be coming if we got pictures leaking now
oh yes, it is coming, but again, it could also be a month+ away (edit: added +)
true true
would not be the first time
the "leaks" are part of the "PR" battle between nvidia and amd (any vendor really)
Would a ASUS Prime X470-Pro AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard compatible with a 3600mhz RAM?
What processor?
Yes, it will work. Might need a BIOS update though
And also would the mobo be compatible with MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card sorry I ask a lot cuz I’m nervous for my build 😓
Thank you
Are you going to be streaming or just playing games?
Yea ima stream
Ok,l that will work
I would recommend a 2060 super though
If it will fit in your budget
Great thanks!
YW
@chrome sonnet if you are really nervous, why not link us the full build here?
Anyone know much about vertical mounting a gpu?
Looking into it for my 570x crystal case
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2bsK4
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($229.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($132.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($115.82 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Z Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
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@spice prawn
@chrome sonnet thank you. what jumps out is changing the 860evo for a sabrent rocket drive instead
and ask yourself if you REALLY need the HDD
because with a slight modification, you could grab a regular cheap ssd
@chrome sonnet https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zBNLyk <- i have left in the hdd and ssd you had. But added some other options that you can mix/match from. There are multiple ways to configure that.
Thanks!
heres what i changed https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hnrx9G
@granite juniper Isnt the 2700 (non X) like $100 cheaper on amazon in the US atm?
I saw some were on sale and some werent, Im assuming the 2700 was and 2700x isnt
the non x is much lower clocked, but yeah its like $70 cheaper
That 2060 is overpriced. Just $20 more gets you the super
@spice prawn yeah im not too worried about how close it will bebut i am worried on how im going to do it lol
I just got a 2060 super and its not performing as well as it should be, any suggestions?
step 1 make sure you have the latest drivers
I do
Define "not performing as well as it should"
my brother has a 1070ti and i have a 2060 super and overwatch and fortnite both get more frames on his pc then mine
by like 50
Processor? resolution?
Both of your video settings are EXACTLY the same?
yes
Same hz on the monitors?
no his is 180 and mine is 144
but if we do unlimited on fortnite i get 180 and he gets 210
obviosly im not seeing 180 but thats what it says
but i assume the 2060 super should do better then that
Honestly, need to compare apples to apples here.
Really hard to compare AMD to Intel and different GPU's on top of that
It's probably a setting that was missed somewhere
And, Intel still tends to be faster at games for various reasons
Ok Thanks
yeah amd and intel handle draw calls to the gpu a little differently and as far as a gpu pushing more frames than the monitor can display theres times where you want it to and times where it doesnt matter
stuff like fortnite tho if youre one of those super competitive players then let your gpu push as many frames as it can even if your monitor cant display them. you will only see 144 frames but with the gpu pushing more it actually cuts down on input lag
chicken tenders
guys can someone tell me why when i install gpu drive i get black screen
did you try putting it in rice
as always, taking leaks with a grain of salt,
just how plausible is it that this iGPU runs like a 1050Ti
anybody who actually knows more than I do
Scariest thing
did you throw a cpu cooler on your gpu@
Perhaps
that looks like a bath exhaust
Yuh 140, 120 is thiner
not gonna worth if its you cant make a decent contact beetween the die and vrm
It worked well till the ports bent
Your pc looks like top of the line
i know.. xD
How much did that cost!?!?
(Verge mode) well i wanna go all out so i spend 2000$
Oh yeah really high end if it cost 2k
xD
Mine costs like $6.00
maybe somewhere on the outerspace theres a material that gets cold when u heat it up
A hot pocket
in reverse xD
Easy
xD
Look in the mirror

you can see him right beside you
Shhhhh he right beside im scared
gpu with built in mirror when
My head when i close my eye when i shower
Heatkiller makes some parts in borosilicate haha
Anyone know of a good looking gpu bracket for this? Trying to get rid of the sag
couple different options
ooh
OR
you could get that
and get better looks and no sab
omg i didnt know that first one was a thing
sag*
my only problem with the first one is i have basically zero space between the GPU and pannel
ah
if i were you, id get the last one i posted
dont have to worry about sag ever, and it looks fantastic
vertical mount it?
how do you install that vertical kit? my pc already has the slot for the vertical mount and i dont think that'd work on mine
I used this one, works great and is cheap
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HSVSLR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IiOdEb2VC13NF
how close dose it sit to the glass on a case?
that bracket, not close at all
it would actually get it further away
more airspace
er
actually
nevermind
hold on
there was another design that had it a bit further away
ok so i wouldn't wanna use that
the whole point of me wanting to verticle mount is to open up all the other pcie slots lol
here is another question even through the vertical mount you posted was listed as universal
I'd get a stranded or best yet, twin-axial riser. Any recent, not super cheap riser should be fine tbh.
@hexed forge if you have a mount built in, just get a riser cable
its make by phantek, would that still work in my case i have an old outdated NZXT
But there's a big gap between the cheapest cheap vs decent riser cables.
so long as you have 7 pcie slots, yes
thats the plan. but i cant yet
yeah, its a NZXT S340, has the 7 PCIe, ill give it a shot
worst comes to worse you return it
another question, on most of the 450m or 570 boards, will the bottom most pcie x16 slot work fine for gpu or will i take a performance hit? or how can i check cause idk
how did you manage the wiring for the GPU, looks like it would clutter up with the 24 pin
PCIE 8x vs 16x doesnt make a difference for gpu performance
should be fine
i have mine plugged into 16x tho
they make different size cables tho, so you can get a long one and then still have other pcie extension cards plugged in
my gt 730 has a halfway covered pcie 16x connector
mine would be plugged into a 16x but i dont wanna use the top port that you'd typically plug a gpu into when i get the riser and new mobo (current one only has 1 16x port)
bottom-most on a b450 might give some annoying issues, depends on board and how the pcie/cpu/pch lanes are routed
heres mine
it's a teensy weensy thing
mine barely reaches lololol
ey wait what case is that
i have a Corsair Carbide 275r (i dont think they make it anymore, but they do make the 275r airflow which is the same except has a lot better airflow)
the one in my picture is a 1070
@torpid garden ok ill ask again once i know what mobo im getting just to be sure lol.
oh ok i thought it was a rosewill for a min
yeah, but it matters in the cards depth
mine takes up exactly 2 slots
the shroud for your gpu might take up like 2.4 or something
causing an issue for fitting it
see how it kinda goes over the 2 slots
look at this teensy weensy
mines more like this
fits perfectly
huh, I have a msi duke 1080 I just installed to test that amd + nvidia guy's problem lol. Mine's a reference pcb I think
Gaming x has a better cooler imo
i got a tinier nvidia card somewhere @spare relic
oo
came in an old e machine. like first or 2nd gen nvidia card lol
its that Twin Frozr Vi if it makes a diffrence, they labeled the fans as Torq fans and tryed to hop it up, all i know is it cost me $200 new 2 years ago at a black friday sale lol
the fan is like the size of a quarter
what would this even be considered? it's an x16 connector form factor, but it's only a bit more than halfway covered with pins
oof
Will just run at x8. people tape over pins someimtes for that reason.
what a man says he is vs what he actually is?
lmao
@dense flicker whats the specs on how wide your GPU is?
can i get what gigabyte 1070 it is to look up?
wanna compare size to see if it would look remotely the same
i know the lenth on your is longer
but i feel like mine is about another 1/4 the with of yours
ah
i found it
it is 280mm in length
if i didnt know what chat i was in, boy oh boy
so 280mm x 114mm x 41mm
yeeeaaahhh
1mm off 
damn, basically the same lenght
but another 30 mm wider
for verticle mounting i think the wider bit is fine
im just noticing in zacks picture
being only 1 mm wider in that other bit i dont think youll have an issue?
that his vertical mount was basically almost up to the bast the CPU lol
i have another 30 mm to worry about LOL
are you doing a full atx mobo?
ok do you have an AIO or a fan?
AIO
pics up in the chat
was looking for somthing to get the sag out the GPU
back at the 9:30 time stamp
well 9:30 PST
ok i scrolled, and looking at it, it might fit but it'd be a risk? i think your biggest obstacle is how bad you wanna see that AIO in full lol
IDC about that aio cooler
and im going to upgrade to a 200 series once i swap over to 9th gen
wait no im wrong cause the aio is roughly at the same height as the case fan so if you can get it low enough which idk how low you can actually go cause i havent used one of those, it might fit
but if you dont wanna go that route, go with one of the other things zack suggested
the case is a NZXT S340
the only nzxt im familiar with is the 510 and 510i
but those have built in vertical slots lol
This is the case the 500 series replaced lol
NZXT S340 No Power Supply ATX Mid Tower Case (White)
thats the case
just mines is black and blue
what gpu?
okay some from my point of view just by looks, its a super tight fit, but i wouldnt know for sure without measuring it ._.
plus, correct me if im wrong @dense flicker but doesnt that riser bracket require you to cut up the place you put it in at?
like if it goes in the pcie ports, theres bars between each port.
but it wont be easy to switch the video cables fast
did you?
id personally just get a support in some way or just deal til you get a smaller gpu. ive not had one that big and havent had any support issue. another thingyou can do to offset it is instead of running the gpu cables down, run them up. it helps support the card a lil bit
wait the case i have has a slot like that as well
wait nvm
not completely like that
wait so is the bottom one DP?
bottom is hdmi
o
top is dp
bottom is hdmi



