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tender mulch
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Left side there is a Startup line with a windows icon under it

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Click that

woven tartan
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wont let me? @tender mulch

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lemme try something

tender mulch
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Can't click it?

woven tartan
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yeah i figured it out

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had to unlock the save

tender mulch
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Ah, there ya go!

woven tartan
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then click then resave then lock haha

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thanks!!!

tender mulch
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Welcome!

buoyant basin
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I know about EVGA, but they don't sell in France.

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Sadly.

tender mulch
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Ah, ZOtac is fine then

buoyant basin
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Then I will GO ZOtac, good evening.

tender mulch
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Good choice and Happy New Year!

hexed forge
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My cousin has a red devil rx580 which is a big boi but it’s also red and black. The outside casing looks like it separates into the board, red metal piece, and black metal piece. Is the red metal piece doing anything to disperse heat or if we use high heat paint to paint it will it be fine

tender mulch
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Paint is fine

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only the heatsink affects heat

hexed forge
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Okay cool. He wants a full white build lol

tender mulch
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Yeah, no issues with that.

wispy totem
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Any reccomendations on what model of 2070 super i should get

tender mulch
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EVGA

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best cooling

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But honestly, most of them are all good

wispy totem
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k

dreamy haven
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lol @ amazonAIDS link

tender mulch
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Yup

wispy totem
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this look any good

bleak dagger
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Is the red devil worth the extra $ over the red dragon?

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id be paying like $30 more

cyan vault
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Are you going ti just game ir also stream?

hard wren
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red dragon less fans shorter heatsink so not as good temps but essentially the same card

cyan vault
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But it looks cooler

hard wren
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oh well yeah the red devil looks way cooler

bleak dagger
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just game

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I can afford but just wanna know if the extra $30 is justified :/

left folio
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So quick question

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Is Dell a credible merchant to buy graphics cards off of ?

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Or am i better to get it off of Amazon

tender mulch
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Uh, amazon. Dell is probably slightly overpriced

left folio
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Its the same price

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Is price the only concern?

tender mulch
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yes. I'm assuming it's not a Dell brand?

left folio
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nope

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msi

tender mulch
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Yeah, it's fine then as long as they arne't overpriced

left folio
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Alright

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But terms of quality

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Like chances of it being defective

tender mulch
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No difference

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That's all on MSI

left folio
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okie dokie

left folio
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Hmm

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Im kinda debating

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Is it worth slapping on the 4 year warranty for 50 dollars for a 1660 ti

woven tartan
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nah

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what all does it cover?

alpine wave
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Would I need a g-sync monitor for a 2070s or do I just Get a 144hz 1440p monotor

open crystal
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you dont need a g-sync monitor

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its just if you want one

hexed forge
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Didn’t nvidia make it work on free sync monitors too

cyan vault
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Sone

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It kinda works with all, but theres a list if 100% compatible ones

hexed forge
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But gsync or freesync is only comparable with gtx 1000 series or above right

sage mountain
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Gtx 10xx cards and above are compatible with fresynx

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Fresynx

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Bruh

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Freesync

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As well as rtx cards

cyan vault
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Yep

buoyant basin
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Happy New Year guys.

gilded fulcrum
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Happy new year dude

hallow pond
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I was thinking about upgrading my Radeon 7770 to a rx 580. The 580 is only 200 USD right now. Is it a good deal?

livid girder
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No

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in usd the rx580 can be as low as 140 new

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depends

faint harness
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Is a used titan x sc for $290 worth it?

lone pond
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1060 for 100 worth it? Or should I just get a 1660ti bew

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New*

ashen gulch
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sure

ashen gulch
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uh......

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i think its a visual bug?

livid girder
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well uh

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you shouldn't have said anything

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and buy it for that price evil_kermit

ashen gulch
worldly crow
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is this on all 5700xt or just the nitro+?

ancient crystal
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those drivers are sapphire's problem

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getting the official AMD drivers which are going to be newer and less weird will solve that problem

worldly crow
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same thing happened to me when i had a hd 7950 and battlefield 4 came out day1 they didnt make drivers for over 3 weeks kept crashing every round

spice prawn
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as has been said before. There are no bad driver, nor are there good drivers

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there is only drivers

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there is way too high a variance in the level of competence both behind the screen and infront of it for anything more meaningful to be concluded.

fathom seal
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Anyone has any tips or opinions about vertical mounting? 🙂

cyan vault
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Its better for temps and aesthetics(if you care)

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But honestly I think its useless

magic pebble
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if you vertical mount with an air cooled card make sure you have a reasonable amount of clearance between the fans and the glass or your temps will actually go up. some cases have vertical mounts built in, but when you put a 2.75 slot width card or thicker the fans end up flat against the glass and will struggle to pull air in.

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look at reviews and other peoples experience for the particular case you are looking at.

granite juniper
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^

cursive moss
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with an amd ryzen 5 2600 should i go with a rx 570 or a gtx 1660

peak pasture
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What do you plan on doing with it, just gaming or streaming?

cursive moss
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gaming and schoolwork mainly

dense flicker
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my brother bought this

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works perfectly

cursive moss
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okay thanks 🙂

dense flicker
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yeah, no problem

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i havent had experience with the 1660 though

cursive moss
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ill look around more to see what would mainly work for me

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or work better at least

lone pond
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Alright I need some serious help. Idk if this is the right place to post this but I recently got a new psu and a rx 5700. I put the new parts in yesterday and it was working great... yesterday. Now, sometimes I randomly get stuck at 30fps in R6, my monitors turn black and say that there is no input, and the pc even restarts on its own in the middle of a game. Help would be greatly appreciated. Here’s the build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X94vjp

peak pasture
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Did you get the latest drivers?

wicked hound
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@lone pond well that's a bad PSU so I suggest returning and replacing

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Most likely not the solution to the current problem tho. But it'll be better

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Actually nvm

lone pond
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@peak pasture yes

wicked hound
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It could be the issue

spice prawn
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that is one odd build

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and i agree with @wicked hound

lone pond
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Ok. Could there be anything else causing this?

wicked hound
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I didn't fully read. Just read 30fps sometimes and checked list. Random restarts with that PSU isn't surprising

spice prawn
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@lone pond yes, there are plenty of other things that "could" cause this. However, the most likely cause is the PSU

wicked hound
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FPS could be due to driver issues as well. But restarts I highly think is PSU

lone pond
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Alright, ill replace the PSU.

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What about the black screens?

spice prawn
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FPS could be power throttle

wicked hound
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Cheapest decent one would be Corsair CX (nor CXM). 450w is fine, 550w is ideal for future upgrades

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Note, wattage doesn't seem to be the issue with this build. Just the PSU quality

lone pond
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is a power throttle?

spice prawn
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also, IF you have the option, get yourself the missing stick of ram (This is not related to the problem)

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basically the system not being able to go beyond X speed because there is not any power left to do so

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(very very very simple way of putting it)

wicked hound
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Wait, what is the PSU model. You said you also got the 5700XT but no 5700XT on list

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I assumed the EVGA PSU was what you had

lone pond
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Thermaltake SMART 600W ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W

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I got the non XT

spice prawn
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why did you link a list with different parts in it then?

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and to followup on that, what else on that list is not real?

lone pond
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One sec

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It’s the same list with a 5700 and that psu

spice prawn
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ask Hei about the psu.

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Is this your first build?

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or is this an upgrade to an existing build?

lone pond
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upgrade to an existing build

dense flicker
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@lone pond watch the language please

spice prawn
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out of curiosity, did you ask anyone what they thought before you bought it?

lone pond
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mostly just watched reviews and asked on reddit a few times.

peak pasture
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I was in the buildapc reddit discord once. It was the second most toxic place you could ever be in.

lone pond
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With those parts, what could be the problem?

spice prawn
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not a problem as such.

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i am just trying to understand the mindset

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and as i said, ask Hei about the PSU

lone pond
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@wicked hound What do you think about the psu?

wicked hound
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PSU is pretty bad

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Lacks protections and is group regulated

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Group regulation can certainly cause instability

lone pond
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So, replace the PSU?

wicked hound
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Yeah. If somehow it isn't the issue you'd be best off without it anyways

spice prawn
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how is it on the rails in regards to using it with the 5700?

wicked hound
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Pretty sure it has enough wattage on 12v rail. But it's group regulated so 5v rail gets messed up when high 12v rail usage

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Or vise versa

spice prawn
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ok, thank you for the info Hei (dont personally want to deal with TT psu's)

wicked hound
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Some TT PSUs aren't bad. But on average due to price I rarely can say TT PSUs are worth it

lone pond
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What should I get instead which is around the same price?

spice prawn
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i have seen too many fried units

wicked hound
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If you want to stay cheap the best PSU I can recommend that is good would be Corsair CX (not CXM). There is some TT PSU that was good with a mail in rebate but I havent checked in quite some time for that price and I don't remember the model unfortunately.

cursive swallow
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Will a gtx 1650 super get bottlenecked by an i3-9100f?

wicked hound
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So get a CX450 or CX550. 550 lasting you for future upgrades

lone pond
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Alright. Thank you guys so much.

wicked hound
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@cursive swallow probably by a small amount. But not much. 1650S would be a pretty decent buy

spice prawn
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@lone pond also seriously look into buying the missing ram stick

cursive swallow
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okay thanks alot

lone pond
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@spice prawn Alright. Was planning on getting it about 2 months from now.

spice prawn
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just dont forget

lone pond
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2060S or Radeon?

verbal cairn
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Depends on what you’re going to do with the cards. @lone pond

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There are a lot of Radeon cards too

lone pond
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I’m probably not going to be using Ray Tracing.

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Radeon 5700.

verbal cairn
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The NVENC feature from NVIDIA cards can help a lot if you’re streaming

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But if you’re only gaming Radeon 5700 / (XT) cards are great value for their prices

ancient crystal
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@peak pasture i've been there before and it's the worst, people were hounding me about my choices and providing much more expensive CPUs and GPUs in pcpartpicker lists and demanding i take their advice, lest i be "ungrateful" or something like that

sage mountain
verbal cairn
little slate
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Omg is that for real?

ancient crystal
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it's the thing AMD needs to compete in the high end if it's true

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it'll likely perform close to a "plain" 2080, but should deeply undercut it in price

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as it is, the 5700 (non-XT) performs close to the 1080, so hitting the 2080 as a target shouldn't be very hard

sage mountain
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Yes it's real

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Well

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Not officially confirmed

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I'd just like it to be real :)

ancient crystal
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the thing is, i don't see why not

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the high end is all that AMD hasn't targeted

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they've targeted low-end, low-mid-range, mid-range, and high mid-range

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with their RDNA based GPUs

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so the only thing left is high

sage mountain
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Yeah theyve hinted at Navi 21 previously

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The "nvidia killer"

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So for sure smth high end is coming out

ancient crystal
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i think anything that keeps nvidia on their feet is good

sage mountain
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Let's just hope those specs are the real specs

ancient crystal
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make them start competing price-wise

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as of yet they simply do not compete price-wise and i understand they've got NVENC and ray tracing in hardware but AMD has hardware encoding./decoding too, just nobody is using it

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and similarly ray tracing in DX12 will likely render the nvidia exclusive stuff obsolete by next gen

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so i don't know why nobody is using it in the streaming space

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it's been available since the first navi card (5700) was released

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i figure by the time the ray tracing stuff goes obsolete streaming software will also use VCN 2.0

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but by then AMD is gonna have to start releasing more powerful GPUs

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because the 5700 will be where the 5600 XT is right now

stiff zodiac
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its a minor downgrade of 5700 xD theres always a difference if it doesnt why would they release it xD

little slate
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I would really hope that a 5900xt would outperform a 2080 super...

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being worse than a 2080 would still put it in a crowded GPU space, and still will have no competition for nvidia at the high end

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as someone using a 1080ti, I would really love some top end competition

sage mountain
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If the specs are correct, it's clearly aimed at trading blows with a 2080ti

little slate
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I would be very happy if that's true

sage mountain
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But that seems too of a perfect world scenario

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But you never know

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Maybe it'll be faster even shakepanda

little slate
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anything that challenges nvidia's ridiculous top end pricing would be a win

sage mountain
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Indeed

little slate
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I really hope that I won't have to spend over $1000 next time I upgrade my GPU, which probably be when the next generation cards come out

acoustic rock
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For 2k gaming does a 2060 do well?

tender mulch
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Might wanna go 2070 if you stream or 5700xt if you don't.

acoustic rock
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Thats not what i asked lol.

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But thx

verbal cairn
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Depends on your standards Perrin

tender mulch
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It is what you asked. You asked if the 2060 was good at 2k

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I provided options that are good

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2060 is lower end 1440p

acoustic rock
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Come on im looking for big brain thoughts like how many franes i will get w no bittleneck etc... wuuut

hexed forge
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Basically he’s saying 2070 and 5700 are both good gpus for 2k and 5700 sucks for streaming

acoustic rock
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I can see that

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With both eyes full of tears

hexed forge
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You can probably get close to 60 frames at 4k but it also depends on the games

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Like I can run RuneScape at 4K with all the frames on my 970 but I can’t run like Witcher 3 at 4K

acoustic rock
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2k not 4k

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2060

tender mulch
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2K = 1440p

acoustic rock
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Nons

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No s

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Right

tender mulch
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I have a 2060. It's lower end 1440p

acoustic rock
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Not the 2060 s the 2060 gets what kinda perf at 1440?

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Yeet tu

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Ty

tender mulch
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If you want to max everything out, go 5700XT of if you strem go 2070

acoustic rock
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Phones r lame for big thumb peepers

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Na just moving out of 1080p

tender mulch
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Yeah, the 2060 will be ~50-60 FPS in AAA titles

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at 1440p

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With DXR on it drops to 30-40

acoustic rock
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Overclocking to get 144 hz monitor to work well?

tender mulch
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1440p 144hz?

hexed forge
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If you have a 144hz 2k monitor go with 2070 or above

tender mulch
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gonna need a 2070 super or 2080 super for that.

acoustic rock
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Thats lame those should do better.

tender mulch
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144 hz = 144 FPS

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Tall order unless you're on med settings

acoustic rock
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Ill research it and overclock it and see what i get frame wise

tender mulch
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Lol, I have the super

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NOt super

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RTX 2060

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You aren't going to do 144 FPS at 1440p unless you're on low settings, even overclocked.

hexed forge
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I want a 2080 but I don’t think I have any use for it lol

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My monitor is 95hz 1080p

acoustic rock
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Doesnt make sense that i need the highest rated card to do a setting that isnt top of the line

tender mulch
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144 FPS?

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You know hertz = FPS right?

hexed forge
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Top of the line is 144hz at 4K which a 2080 super can barely handle

acoustic rock
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144hz yes 1 hz = once per second

tender mulch
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Rainbow 6 siege benchmark

acoustic rock
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It can barely handle??

hexed forge
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4K is still relatively new and processing a game at that resolution and rate is not easy

tender mulch
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101 FPS max at 1440p

acoustic rock
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Noone has said that

tender mulch
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You can get 144 FPS but not maxed out. Med-low settings with a 2060

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While a 2070 super will do it maxed out

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I should also mention those benchmarks don't have AA on either

hexed forge
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I’m talking the newest triple a games at max everything at 4K 144hz is still tough on a stock 2080

acoustic rock
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Dam best cards cant even push max setting well lmao. Why do we give these companies so much money? Reminds me of beta testing but we have to pay.

hexed forge
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As far as I’m aware at least

tender mulch
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1440p has 2x the pixels of 1080p

hexed forge
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I’m pretty sure monitors have always been slightly ahead of gpus

tender mulch
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Always

acoustic rock
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I do quick maths

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Makenthe chickens before the omelet yo

acoustic rock
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6gb of vram isnt going to cut it though in 4 years or so.

tender mulch
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Quake Champions, really??

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That's not a realistic mark

fallen schooner
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vulcan power.

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😄

tender mulch
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Exactly lol

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In other games it's ~40 FPS at 4K

fallen schooner
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vulcan is so nice though.

tender mulch
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OH it so is

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Wish everyone would use it

fallen schooner
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no kiddin

wise kiln
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What major engines support vulkan right now, anyway?

fiery nymph
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guys what card is better:
rx 590 fatboy or gigabyte Radeon RX 590

wicked hound
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Just go 1650S or 1660S tbh

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New 580 or 590 makes little sense

gray vapor
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1660 Super is closer to the price of the RX 590's and are a lot better

ancient crystal
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re: all the talk about streaming and the 5700/XT - the ASIC is there on the card, the software is just not taking advantage of it

tender mulch
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Yup. The encoder is poo. It was thrown in last minute just so they could say they had it

ancient crystal
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ah

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maybe they'll improve it on future iterations of RDNA

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also they could've kept the old encoder/decoder

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and just like added x265 to it

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polaris and vega also have encoders

spice prawn
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not quite how it works

magic forge
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Do all NVIDIA chip set graphics cards use NVENC encoding or is that limited to NVIDIA cards exclusively.

unborn sedge
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Where should I buy a 1660 Super card?

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If possible overclockable.

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Upgrading from a 1060 3GB for VR.

lone pond
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5700 XT or 5700 for my R5 1600 1080p?
I will probably wait for 4th gen to upgrade

tender mulch
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1080p or 1440p gaming?

unborn sedge
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VR, for use with my Rift S headset.

tender mulch
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Get an EVGA one

tender mulch
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Twin fan vs single fan

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Twi nfan has higher clocks also

unborn sedge
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Is it worth the higher price?

tender mulch
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IMO, yes,

unborn sedge
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Is the difference in performance that big?

tender mulch
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Not just performance but cooling also

unborn sedge
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So more OC?

tender mulch
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Potentially, yes.

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It already runs 100 mhz faster than the other card too

unborn sedge
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Okay. I'll go w/ dual fan then. Thank you!

tender mulch
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YW!

obsidian vine
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So I was here about a couple of weeks ago for coil wine in my red devil 5700 xt

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Y’all suggested I get a better power supply as mine was under AMDs minimum requirement

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I went the extra mile and got a 850W psu just cause it was on sale

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But it’s still there

tender mulch
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what psu

obsidian vine
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Corsair RMx 850W

spice prawn
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higher wattage does not automatically mean better

obsidian vine
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I asked about the psu in the other chat and people said it was good

tender mulch
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RMx 2019? 2018?

spice prawn
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@tender mulch the rmx is the one that Hei complains about all the time no?

tender mulch
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No

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the cx

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cxm

spice prawn
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ah, yes

obsidian vine
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Idk doesn’t say

tender mulch
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COrsair RMi and HXi/Platinum are Tier A

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Everything else is tier B

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BUt

obsidian vine
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It was this one

tender mulch
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Sapphire 5700XT?

obsidian vine
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Red devil 5700xt

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Should I get it exchanged at this point

hexed forge
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That psu should be fine what’s wrong with it

obsidian vine
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Coil whine

tender mulch
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Doing some reading

hexed forge
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What is coil whine? A noise thing?

tender mulch
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You can turn down the GPU frequency to like 30-35% and then faster when it's in game

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Can you try that?

hexed forge
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Yeh ok I’m deaf so noise doesn’t do anything for me lol

tender mulch
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it's a high pitched whine or squeal from capacitors on the cards

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Typically a power issue, poor filtering

hexed forge
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Does that mean something is bad or is it just annoying?

obsidian vine
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Turned it down to 1300 MHz and still whining

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Only happened in game

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The second I close the game it stops

tender mulch
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yeah, that seems to a be a thing with them

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You can RMA

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But the new one may have it also. Won't know until you try

obsidian vine
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Guess I’ll try while I still can

tender mulch
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If a different PSU didn't fix it I'd say so. I mean, do you have a ton of fans or an AIO or anything?

obsidian vine
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No

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I tried unplugging all the fans including the cpu cooler

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Still happened

tender mulch
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Ok, definitely the card then

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😦

covert parcel
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is it possible to get an external graphics card

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that plugs into a laptop

obsidian vine
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Welp thx again guys

tender mulch
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Possible? yes. Worth it? No....need an external power brick for it

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Also, you'll need the GPU plus an enclosure which is $200-300

covert parcel
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ah so im better off saveing to build a pc

tender mulch
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Yes

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There are Thunderbolt versions available but the box alone is $500

covert parcel
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how much would be minimum spend for decent

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build

tender mulch
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Define decent

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what do you want it to do?

covert parcel
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games

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warframe

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dauntless

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stuff like that

tender mulch
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1080p? 1440p? Max settings or just playable.

covert parcel
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mid settings

tender mulch
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You could do something like this, change to 16GB of RAM and a better GPU. maybe, $600-700

hard wren
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man that memory price it is so cheap now

tender mulch
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It's only 8 GB though

hard wren
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oh oops I thought that was 16g LOL

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been a while since I've seen 2x4 lol

tender mulch
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$500 build, gotta budget somewhere

obtuse pier
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could go with used and get a 4770k or an x3470 if you can find a bundle or motherboard.

hard wren
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people are stingy with those 4770k's

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I keep looking for a used system with something similar for my nephew

covert parcel
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that ryzen 5 do you know if tit come with its own cooler

tender mulch
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Yes

covert parcel
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all ive gott to pick now is the video card

covert parcel
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what graphics card would you recommend

hard wren
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in that price range a 580

verbal cairn
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570 or 580

covert parcel
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AMD Radeon RX 580

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is this what u mean

verbal cairn
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Yeah that’s right

covert parcel
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this is what i have so far

verbal cairn
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Permission denied lol

covert parcel
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gimmie a seec to screen shot

verbal cairn
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Yep

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Everything should work fine

covert parcel
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the radeon wont come up do you know if it is compatible

hard wren
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can you find faster ram for the same price or cheaper?

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like 3200

verbal cairn
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The GPU will be compatible

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Don’t worry

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And yeah maybe you can find a faster memory kit for around the same price as the LPX 3000

covert parcel
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whats the diff btween 580 and 570

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this is my first build

hard wren
#

like 20% performance

covert parcel
#

im in my final year of gcse computer science so i know a little

hard wren
#

580 is usually the lowest priced GPU I recommend for modern gaming

verbal cairn
#

580 will last you a few years I would say

hard wren
#

570 will do it but its going to be struggling much quicker

covert parcel
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theyre both closely priced so ill go with the 580

verbal cairn
#

Whereas you might want to upgrade the 570 to another GPU when more demanding games are released

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Yep good choice

covert parcel
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so now all thats left is menmory

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memory

verbal cairn
#

Try and see if there are 16GB kits 3200mhz > 3000 btw

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And they aren’t too expensive nowadays

lone pond
covert parcel
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so 1 stick of 16 or 2 8

median pagoda
#

2x8 is better

lone pond
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and what ram is best also

verbal cairn
#

@lone pond what did you want to do with that card

lone pond
#

pc gaming

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i have 1500 to work with

verbal cairn
#

1080p ?

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Entry level ?

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144 FPS ?

lone pond
#

i have $806 so far in my cart

verbal cairn
#

@covert parcel 2*8 gigs is better yeh

lone pond
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im just using a monitor with dvi

verbal cairn
#

Your GPU question is very vague though

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There are a lot of pc Games

lone pond
#

i want one that can handle any game

verbal cairn
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At what frame rate

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At what settings

lone pond
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idk

verbal cairn
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At what resolution

lone pond
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its been 2 years since ive been doing pc gaming

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1920*1080

hard wren
#

I feel like if you are going to spend $1500 on a gaming PC we are in 2070S territory

tender mulch
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Yup

lone pond
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i have ram left to buy also

tender mulch
#

Tweak it a bit

lone pond
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heres the ram size that will work 4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/

hard wren
#

thats a great build he linked

lone pond
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i already have my other stuff

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i just need help with video card and ram

hard wren
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3600mhz is fine

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at least 16g

granite juniper
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^

hard wren
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32g is overkill but it fills all the slots and looks pretty

lone pond
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it wont work with my motherboard

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4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/

hard wren
#

thats not a hard rule

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and what motherboard?

lone pond
#

just which size should i get 4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/

hard wren
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those are overclock settings

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3600mhz is fine like I said

hard wren
#

any particular reason we need to get an MSI board because I wouldnt

lone pond
hard wren
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this one

lone pond
#

and which ram

hard wren
wicked hound
#

@tender mulch I dont recall the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 being that good for its price. Could be wrong on that tho

hard wren
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its only 139.99 right not

tender mulch
#

PCMAg gives it 4.5/5 Excellent

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But them aside, it's a good board

tender mulch
#

Nope

hard wren
#

and the Asus Tuf one isnt on super sale anymore 😦

tender mulch
#

terrible value

lone pond
#

will this work

tender mulch
#

for that 5500

lone pond
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because i use dvi

hard wren
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uck no

tender mulch
#

Your monitor doen't have HDMI at all?

lone pond
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nope

hard wren
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there will be an adapter in every nvidia rtx card box

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cant say for AMD not sure

tender mulch
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That card will stomp the 5500

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and it has DVI

lone pond
#

it shows pci 3.0

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my motherboard shows pci 4.0

hard wren
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lol they all do

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even my 2080ti is pci 3.0

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4.0 is the future

tender mulch
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No GPU is PCI-E 4.0 yet

lone pond
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oh so go with this video card

cyan vault
#

Weird flex but ok

hard wren
#

💪🏼

lone pond
#

and what ram for my motherboard

tender mulch
#

DDR4 3600 CL16

lone pond
tender mulch
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DDR4 3600 CL16

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Any brand, any quantity to those specs

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RGB, No RGB, Crucial, Oloy, G SKill, whatever you want

lone pond
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but that will work with this motherboard thats what im asking

cyan vault
#

Yez

hard wren
lone pond
#

thanks

hard wren
lone pond
#

$1200 for my pc

hard wren
#

did you go with the 1660?

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gpu

lone pond
#

yes

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i did

hard wren
#

cool Its a good card

lone pond
#

i left consoles because of there trash support

wicked hound
#

@tender mulch yeah looked into the Asrock board. Trades blows with other decent cheap x570

tender mulch
#

I think the Prime P is also at that price point

wicked hound
#

yeah

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Some reason I remember the Asrock being like MSI quality

tender mulch
#

Once upon a time

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but all manus change

hard wren
#

poor MSI hope they do better next time

tender mulch
#

Look at the 5700's this time around. MSI flopped those and the X570 boards

wicked hound
#

Seems like their mobos took an eye for an eye. Simply amazing b450/x470 for bad x570

tender mulch
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Yup

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Maybe the 550 will be better

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I mean, with a stock heatsink their VRM is fine

hard wren
#

I feel bad constantly telling people not to get one. They still have that name recognition seems like everyone chooses an MSI board first lol

tender mulch
#

But watercooled is a no go

#

I've always been ASUS or Gigabyte

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never let me down

wicked hound
#

Ah yes, brand recognition. That's always real fun for PSUs

hard wren
#

I had an msi a long time ago and it was fine but lately I've been all gigabyte

lone pond
#

im doing liquid cooling also

tender mulch
#

I had one ASROCk board. It didn't die but it was super budget

lone pond
#

what liquid cooler would be best

tender mulch
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H100i

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for a 240mm

obtuse pier
#

@hard wren i found a bundle with a motherboard and 16gb of ram for 150. They are out there you just have to be on top of them when they are posted. And you have to be willing to lowball their high price

tender mulch
#

RGB or non, doesn't matter

hard wren
#

or Evga clc 280

tender mulch
#

Noisy fans

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But good cooler

lone pond
#

corsair has the best aios in my opinion

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send me links

wicked hound
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I mean custom CPU only liquid cooling is $115

lone pond
#

i was going to do this one

hard wren
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I do only use the evga 280 in my media pc now but I dont find that it ramps up very often but yeah if it does its loud

tender mulch
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Yeah, that one

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Corsair H100i

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I have an EVGA CLC 260

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But i put SIlent Wings fans on it

wicked hound
lone pond
#

so use the one i select

tender mulch
#

The stock EVGA fans are simply obnoxious

hard wren
#

but the fans do look really cool lol

lone pond
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@tender mulch thats a god tier aio

tender mulch
#

LMAO did you see the cooler Linus reviewd yesterday?

cyan vault
#

Yes!

hard wren
#

yeah the double

lone pond
#

no

tender mulch
#

Yeah

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I was amazed it actually workd

cyan vault
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That weird GPU CPU duo

obtuse pier
#

yeah he sounded sick or like steve-o

tender mulch
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OH yeah, sick for sure

cyan vault
#

Yeah

hard wren
#

right and when they reseated it it worked just fine

lone pond
#

that link i sent you should i buy that one

tender mulch
#

Yes

lone pond
#

thanks

cyan vault
#

No offense but i think linus is kinda annoying

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At times

tender mulch
#

OH, he's a dork for sure

cyan vault
#

Being his employee would suck

hard wren
#

they do make good videos though

lone pond
#

thanks for helping me

tender mulch
#

They do

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jayZ is a dork too

lone pond
#

Linus sounds like Steve-O on drugs.
Oh wait.

hard wren
#

I also really want that all white pc with the lcd side panel kyle (bitwit) built

cyan vault
#

Yeah

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Kyle seems like a much cooler person

lone pond
#

lmao

cyan vault
#

Dont understand why he does an asian person impression sometimes but

lone pond
#

i was busy watching other ltt videos

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that's why i couldnt want the chinese cooler one

wicked hound
#

Kyle is okay, but lacks actual PC knowledge

cyan vault
#

He has some

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He's built a lot though

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I don't understand how people like that have so much money for those pc's

wicked hound
#

yet still recommends DRAM-less SSDs, 💩 PSUs, bad airflow cases

tender mulch
#

DRAM less SSD

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No, just no

wicked hound
#

Pretty glad we got GN with good knowledge. Sometimes incorrect. Not like humans can be perfect tho

#

Well, GN needs to look a bit more into PSUs as well. Hope he gets into them soon. His recent guide used a not so great PSU as well unfortunately

hard wren
#

I seem to only have a corsair PSU curse so I buy evga supernova usually

#

I know they dont make bad PSUs

tender mulch
#

I've got a thermaltake now, 700W, have for years

hard wren
#

just unlucky with corsair

wicked hound
#

Supernova is kinda meh tho. Only good Supernova was the G2 which is overpriced now

hard wren
#

I got the P2 when it was on sale

#

still expensive though

wicked hound
#

P2 is quite good. Pretty sure P2 and T2 are the few decent 1400w+ PSUs

hard wren
#

wife got the G+ not sure about that one

wicked hound
#

G+ has a bad price, but isnt 💩

hard wren
#

thats good so far no issues

wicked hound
#

pretty sure it's like CX or CXM quality

#

but your Corsair Curse wont work well with that so

hard wren
#

lol IKR

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I went through three RM1000x's

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then I was like I'm done RMA-ing these

wicked hound
#

same time? Could've been a bad batch

hard wren
#

I think so too because they have good reviews and I know people that have them with no issues. It was all during a 2-3 month period

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My ultimate trooper PSU though is a 600w antec truepower that thing is at least 20 years old and still runs like the day I bought it

wicked hound
#

That is def before my time

hard wren
#

It didnt like a 2080ti and 8700k though 😦 so I had to move it to another pc

#

well that and the ketchup mustardiness

wicked hound
#

I mean OCed 8700k and 2080Ti would pull like 525w - 575w alone

hard wren
#

yeah it would black screen during games

wicked hound
#

yeah, with system wattage added and then age of PSU not being capable of doing full 600w probably

hard wren
#

went 1000w for no real good reason 750w probably would be fine

wicked hound
#

Pretty sure that consume max of 650w. So 700w or more would be a good choice

hard wren
#

yep spot on calculators said right around 649w

tender mulch
#

rule of thumb is 15-20% extra. PSU most efficient at 80% load or so

hard wren
#

but now i have pump and rad fans plus I have another rad with fans that I plan on adding if I ever get the nerve up and buy a waterblock for my gpu

#

I also need to flash the bios on the gpu so it can draw more power apparently but im a 🐔

wicked hound
#

@tender mulch I wouldnt go for the efficiency point. It's a 2% difference usually from peak efficiency to 100% load efficiency. Just go for lifetime as PSUs tend to lose their max wattage over a long time

tender mulch
#

F that

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It's not worth it

hard wren
#

water block or bios flash?

tender mulch
#

BIOS flash

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UNless card hs dual BIOS

wicked hound
#

I mean it is pretty hard to brick a GPU with BIOS

#

Like

hard wren
#

everyone says you should flash the bios on the FE cards so they can draw a full 300w

wicked hound
#

Why not be scared of flashing mobo BIOS?

hard wren
#

mobo = $100 gpu =$1500

wicked hound
#

yet so so scared about GPU BIOS as if failure rate is 200000% more

tender mulch
#

Because that is done directly in a USB port, not through sometimes glitchy software

hard wren
#

yeah I mean I have personally bricked a gpu messing with the bios....LOL

#

480gtx RIP

granite juniper
#

👀

wicked hound
#

So long as you know what you're doing, failure rates shouldnt be much higher than mobo BIOS flash

hard wren
#

I should do it right. I have been trying to get my nerve up and just do it

#

supposedly its safer now

#

Me and @tender mulch could just have hold over fears from the past

restive barn
#

Is the 2060 super worth it over the 2060?

ancient crystal
#

should probably get an RX 5700 for the same price as the 2060 and have performance like the 2060 Super - unless you need NVENC for streaming, in which case i'd say the 2060 S is worth it if you have the budget

#

well i dunno, i think the 5700 is cheaper, actually

lone pond
#

It’s been a long time since I’ve used an ATI/AMD GPU, But I thought the latest generation models from them and nV all had live capable hardware encoding for both 264 and now HEVC?

ancient crystal
#

AMD has it but apparently it's bad and it's not supported by abnything

lone pond
#

Although, and I forget the other thing that would need to be used with nvenc, but I seem to recall that nVidia gpu’s can do encoding 100% non-cpu assisted

#

Kinda like purevideo(TM)? 😉

granite moat
#

guys i have an ASUS Dual RX 580 O4G

#

is it possible to solder additional VRAM and flash the bios and make it an ASUS Dual RX580 O8G?

ancient crystal
#

this is not recommended

#

it's also beyond the expertise of anyone here probably

wicked hound
#

Well a few things
-you need a high end soldering kit to solder a bunch of really small contact points really close to each other
-you need the skill required to solder many small points close to each other
-I wouldnt be surprised if it was hardware locked on the GPU die as well
-Where you going to source the memory?

granite moat
#

no it's just a question out of Curiosity

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because every time when i see someone dissemble a GPU there will be some blank spot for VRAM

wicked hound
#

So the GTX 970 have 3.5GB of decent speed VRAM and .5GB of slow VRAM. iirc that was because of it being a cut down 980 with a bad memory module in the GPU die itself. So that memory module couldnt support the full bandwidth needed for that extra .5GB. Could be wrong about that tho

#

Anyways, could be similar with the 580

lone pond
#

soldering vram upgrades has been done successfully with many different gpu’s, but it’s extremely delicate and sometimes requires firmware manipulation, realistically there’s very few circumstances when it would ever be worth the attempt,

#

I read or watched one recently where they made a nVidia card faster than any currently sold, and they killed the first <$1000 board they tried it with.

spice prawn
#

@wicked hound there was not a bad mem module. it was an intentional ROP/MC disable that lead to the segmented memory. However, the performance hit comes from access to one segment blocking access to the other (in that specific cycle)

fiery nymph
#

5500xt or 1650s ?

vague surge
#

1650super no doubt

spice prawn
#

if you can wait a day, i would highly recommend doing so. since CES is happening right now

#

and amd is rumoured to unveil the 5600 series at CES. IF that happens, it might move things around for you

fiery nymph
#

oh

#

ty

spice prawn
#

np

#

basically, ask again in a couple of days

#

we should know a lot more by then :)

vague surge
#

1660 super is cool if you can stretch your budget...

#

2060 super is the best mid mid-range card

hard wren
spice prawn
#

yes, but we dont know the full details yet @hard wren launch date and price being the most interesting

hard wren
#

oh I know just figure it has to be coming if we got pictures leaking now

spice prawn
#

oh yes, it is coming, but again, it could also be a month+ away (edit: added +)

hard wren
#

true true

spice prawn
#

would not be the first time

#

the "leaks" are part of the "PR" battle between nvidia and amd (any vendor really)

chrome sonnet
#

Would a ASUS Prime X470-Pro AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard compatible with a 3600mhz RAM?

tender mulch
#

What processor?

chrome sonnet
#

Ryzen 5 2700x

#

7 I mean

tender mulch
#

Yes, it will work. Might need a BIOS update though

chrome sonnet
#

And also would the mobo be compatible with MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card sorry I ask a lot cuz I’m nervous for my build 😓

#

Thank you

tender mulch
#

Are you going to be streaming or just playing games?

chrome sonnet
#

Yea ima stream

tender mulch
#

Ok,l that will work

#

I would recommend a 2060 super though

#

If it will fit in your budget

chrome sonnet
#

Great thanks!

tender mulch
#

YW

spice prawn
#

@chrome sonnet if you are really nervous, why not link us the full build here?

teal bluff
#

Anyone know much about vertical mounting a gpu?

#

Looking into it for my 570x crystal case

hard wren
#

its fairly simple

#

riser gets plugged into the 16x pci slot gpu plugs into the riser

spice prawn
#

be aware of closeness to the sidepanel

#

@teal bluff

chrome sonnet
#

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2bsK4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($229.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($132.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($115.82 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Z Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1168.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 13:24 EST-0500

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@spice prawn

spice prawn
#

@chrome sonnet thank you. what jumps out is changing the 860evo for a sabrent rocket drive instead

#

and ask yourself if you REALLY need the HDD

#

because with a slight modification, you could grab a regular cheap ssd

#

@chrome sonnet https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zBNLyk <- i have left in the hdd and ssd you had. But added some other options that you can mix/match from. There are multiple ways to configure that.

chrome sonnet
#

Thanks!

spice prawn
#

np

#

please ask if you want to know more :)

granite juniper
peak pasture
#

@granite juniper Isnt the 2700 (non X) like $100 cheaper on amazon in the US atm?

#

I saw some were on sale and some werent, Im assuming the 2700 was and 2700x isnt

granite juniper
#

the non x is much lower clocked, but yeah its like $70 cheaper

wicked hound
#

That 2060 is overpriced. Just $20 more gets you the super

teal bluff
#

@spice prawn yeah im not too worried about how close it will bebut i am worried on how im going to do it lol

quiet marten
#

I just got a 2060 super and its not performing as well as it should be, any suggestions?

toxic ore
#

step 1 make sure you have the latest drivers

quiet marten
#

I do

tender mulch
#

Define "not performing as well as it should"

quiet marten
#

my brother has a 1070ti and i have a 2060 super and overwatch and fortnite both get more frames on his pc then mine

#

by like 50

tender mulch
#

Processor? resolution?

quiet marten
#

ryzen 2700x 1080p

#

and his is i5 8400 1080p

tender mulch
#

Both of your video settings are EXACTLY the same?

quiet marten
#

yes

fallow slate
#

Same hz on the monitors?

quiet marten
#

no his is 180 and mine is 144

#

but if we do unlimited on fortnite i get 180 and he gets 210

#

obviosly im not seeing 180 but thats what it says

#

but i assume the 2060 super should do better then that

tender mulch
#

Honestly, need to compare apples to apples here.

#

Really hard to compare AMD to Intel and different GPU's on top of that

#

It's probably a setting that was missed somewhere

#

And, Intel still tends to be faster at games for various reasons

quiet marten
#

Ok Thanks

toxic ore
#

yeah amd and intel handle draw calls to the gpu a little differently and as far as a gpu pushing more frames than the monitor can display theres times where you want it to and times where it doesnt matter

#

stuff like fortnite tho if youre one of those super competitive players then let your gpu push as many frames as it can even if your monitor cant display them. you will only see 144 frames but with the gpu pushing more it actually cuts down on input lag

somber meadow
#

chicken tenders

vale ocean
#

guys can someone tell me why when i install gpu drive i get black screen

carmine urchin
#

did you try putting it in rice

pale talon
#

as always, taking leaks with a grain of salt,

#

just how plausible is it that this iGPU runs like a 1050Ti

#

anybody who actually knows more than I do

lone pond
pale talon
#

wut

livid girder
#

did you throw a cpu cooler on your gpu@wuuut

lone pond
#

Perhaps

torpid garden
#

That looks like a gpu cooler with a 120mm? 140mm? zip tied to it

#

Love it

stiff zodiac
#

that looks like a bath exhaust

lone pond
#

Yuh 140, 120 is thiner

stiff zodiac
#

not gonna worth if its you cant make a decent contact beetween the die and vrm

lone pond
#

It worked well till the ports bent

stiff zodiac
#

xD

lone pond
#

Your pc looks like top of the line

stiff zodiac
#

i know.. xD

warped sable
#

How much did that cost!?!?

stiff zodiac
#

(Verge mode) well i wanna go all out so i spend 2000$

lone pond
#

Oh yeah really high end if it cost 2k

stiff zodiac
#

xD

warped sable
#

Mine costs like $6.00

stiff zodiac
#

maybe somewhere on the outerspace theres a material that gets cold when u heat it up

lone pond
#

A hot pocket

stiff zodiac
#

in reverse xD

pale talon
#

dammit

#

I was gonna ask how you managed to take a picture of my garage

lone pond
#

Easy

stiff zodiac
#

xD

lone pond
#

Look in the mirror

pale talon
stiff zodiac
#

you can see him right beside you

lone pond
#

Shhhhh he right beside im scared

pale talon
#

gpu with built in mirror when

lone pond
#

My head when i close my eye when i shower

stiff zodiac
#

xD

#

i think glass will crack in long run

#

heat cold heat cold

#

gets brittle xD

torpid garden
#

Heatkiller makes some parts in borosilicate haha

zenith kraken
hexed forge
#

omg i didnt know that first one was a thing

dense flicker
#

sag*

zenith kraken
#

my only problem with the first one is i have basically zero space between the GPU and pannel

dense flicker
#

ah

#

if i were you, id get the last one i posted

#

dont have to worry about sag ever, and it looks fantastic

zenith kraken
#

vertical mount it?

hexed forge
#

how do you install that vertical kit? my pc already has the slot for the vertical mount and i dont think that'd work on mine

desert topaz
dense flicker
#

take out all the PCIE covers

#

slide that in

#

tighten the screws

#

done

zenith kraken
#

how close dose it sit to the glass on a case?

dense flicker
#

that bracket, not close at all

#

it would actually get it further away

#

more airspace

#

er

#

actually

#

nevermind

#

hold on

#

there was another design that had it a bit further away

hexed forge
#

ok so i wouldn't wanna use that

dense flicker
#

hmmm

#

nvm

#

that phantecks one is the only one i could find

#

D:

hexed forge
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the whole point of me wanting to verticle mount is to open up all the other pcie slots lol

zenith kraken
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here is another question even through the vertical mount you posted was listed as universal

torpid garden
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I'd get a stranded or best yet, twin-axial riser. Any recent, not super cheap riser should be fine tbh.

dense flicker
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@hexed forge if you have a mount built in, just get a riser cable

zenith kraken
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its make by phantek, would that still work in my case i have an old outdated NZXT

torpid garden
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But there's a big gap between the cheapest cheap vs decent riser cables.

dense flicker
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so long as you have 7 pcie slots, yes

hexed forge
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thats the plan. but i cant yet

dense flicker
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just make sure that your GPU will fit

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dual slot

zenith kraken
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yeah, its a NZXT S340, has the 7 PCIe, ill give it a shot

dense flicker
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worst comes to worse you return it

hexed forge
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another question, on most of the 450m or 570 boards, will the bottom most pcie x16 slot work fine for gpu or will i take a performance hit? or how can i check cause idk

zenith kraken
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how did you manage the wiring for the GPU, looks like it would clutter up with the 24 pin

dense flicker
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PCIE 8x vs 16x doesnt make a difference for gpu performance

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should be fine

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i have mine plugged into 16x tho

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they make different size cables tho, so you can get a long one and then still have other pcie extension cards plugged in

spare relic
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my gt 730 has a halfway covered pcie 16x connector

hexed forge
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mine would be plugged into a 16x but i dont wanna use the top port that you'd typically plug a gpu into when i get the riser and new mobo (current one only has 1 16x port)

torpid garden
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bottom-most on a b450 might give some annoying issues, depends on board and how the pcie/cpu/pch lanes are routed

dense flicker
spare relic
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it's a teensy weensy thing

dense flicker
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mine barely reaches lololol

hexed forge
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ey wait what case is that

zenith kraken
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ah you have a bigger card

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im just on the MSI 1080

dense flicker
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i have a Corsair Carbide 275r (i dont think they make it anymore, but they do make the 275r airflow which is the same except has a lot better airflow)

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the one in my picture is a 1070

hexed forge
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@torpid garden ok ill ask again once i know what mobo im getting just to be sure lol.

zenith kraken
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mines a dual fan

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not tripple

hexed forge
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oh ok i thought it was a rosewill for a min

dense flicker
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yeah, but it matters in the cards depth

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mine takes up exactly 2 slots

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the shroud for your gpu might take up like 2.4 or something

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causing an issue for fitting it

hexed forge
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my cousins gpu takes up like, 2.5

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its a beast

zenith kraken
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well not sure the exact size specs

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its the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X

dense flicker
spare relic
dense flicker
spare relic
dense flicker
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fits perfectly

torpid garden
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huh, I have a msi duke 1080 I just installed to test that amd + nvidia guy's problem lol. Mine's a reference pcb I think

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Gaming x has a better cooler imo

hexed forge
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i got a tinier nvidia card somewhere @spare relic

spare relic
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oo

hexed forge
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came in an old e machine. like first or 2nd gen nvidia card lol

zenith kraken
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its that Twin Frozr Vi if it makes a diffrence, they labeled the fans as Torq fans and tryed to hop it up, all i know is it cost me $200 new 2 years ago at a black friday sale lol

hexed forge
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the fan is like the size of a quarter

spare relic
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what would this even be considered? it's an x16 connector form factor, but it's only a bit more than halfway covered with pins

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oof

torpid garden
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Will just run at x8. people tape over pins someimtes for that reason.

hexed forge
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what a man says he is vs what he actually is?

spare relic
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lmao

zenith kraken
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@dense flicker whats the specs on how wide your GPU is?

dense flicker
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dual slot

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oh

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you mean how long?

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i have no clue

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lolololol

zenith kraken
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can i get what gigabyte 1070 it is to look up?

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wanna compare size to see if it would look remotely the same

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i know the lenth on your is longer

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but i feel like mine is about another 1/4 the with of yours

dense flicker
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ah

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i found it

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it is 280mm in length

hexed forge
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if i didnt know what chat i was in, boy oh boy

zenith kraken
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so 280mm x 114mm x 41mm

dense flicker
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yeeeaaahhh

zenith kraken
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mines is

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279mm x 140mm x 42mm

livid girder
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1mm off theo_shakes

zenith kraken
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damn, basically the same lenght

dense flicker
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it depends on the case mydude

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lol

zenith kraken
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but another 30 mm wider

hexed forge
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for verticle mounting i think the wider bit is fine

zenith kraken
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im just noticing in zacks picture

hexed forge
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being only 1 mm wider in that other bit i dont think youll have an issue?

zenith kraken
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that his vertical mount was basically almost up to the bast the CPU lol

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i have another 30 mm to worry about LOL

hexed forge
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are you doing a full atx mobo?

zenith kraken
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thats whats in it

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its a MSI Z270-A Pro board

hexed forge
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ok do you have an AIO or a fan?

zenith kraken
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AIO

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pics up in the chat

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was looking for somthing to get the sag out the GPU

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back at the 9:30 time stamp

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well 9:30 PST

hexed forge
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ok i scrolled, and looking at it, it might fit but it'd be a risk? i think your biggest obstacle is how bad you wanna see that AIO in full lol

zenith kraken
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IDC about that aio cooler

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and im going to upgrade to a 200 series once i swap over to 9th gen

hexed forge
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wait no im wrong cause the aio is roughly at the same height as the case fan so if you can get it low enough which idk how low you can actually go cause i havent used one of those, it might fit

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but if you dont wanna go that route, go with one of the other things zack suggested

zenith kraken
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the case is a NZXT S340

hexed forge
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the only nzxt im familiar with is the 510 and 510i

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but those have built in vertical slots lol

zenith kraken
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This is the case the 500 series replaced lol

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thats the case

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just mines is black and blue

hexed forge
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what gpu?

zenith kraken
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MSI 1080 Gaming X

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the case has 7 PCIe's all the way down to the PSU cover.

hexed forge
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okay some from my point of view just by looks, its a super tight fit, but i wouldnt know for sure without measuring it ._.

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plus, correct me if im wrong @dense flicker but doesnt that riser bracket require you to cut up the place you put it in at?

dense flicker
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mmmmmmmm

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its not necessary

hexed forge
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like if it goes in the pcie ports, theres bars between each port.

dense flicker
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but it wont be easy to switch the video cables fast

hexed forge
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did you?

dense flicker
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since my case has the built in bracket, i dont need to

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very nice

hexed forge
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id personally just get a support in some way or just deal til you get a smaller gpu. ive not had one that big and havent had any support issue. another thingyou can do to offset it is instead of running the gpu cables down, run them up. it helps support the card a lil bit

zenith kraken
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wait the case i have has a slot like that as well

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wait nvm

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not completely like that

hexed forge
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for a minute i thought that blue cable was a vga cable lol

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take a pc

spare relic
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VGMI

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oh frick is that DP

dense flicker
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yeah

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displayport and hdmi

spare relic
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wait so is the bottom one DP?

hexed forge
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bottom is hdmi

spare relic
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o

hexed forge
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top is dp

dense flicker
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bottom is hdmi

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