#graphics-cards

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peak pasture
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I only stared at about 300 performance graphs for it.

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What's the cost of a decent 1tb m.2 in the US?

sage mountain
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Is the 660p decent

peak pasture
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Not really.

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It brought cheap m.2s into the game. Things like a 1tb sabrent rocket etc

sand sorrel
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there is this

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xpg sx8200 pro

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its cheap

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its 1 tb

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its fast

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but I think the sabrent is better than it?

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Dont know

lone pond
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new stuff always coming out though

sand sorrel
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Sabrent might be either better or same compared to the xpg

lone pond
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2080 super ROG O8G or 2080 super Aorus Waterforce

verbal cairn
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Doesn’t the The Gigabyte card have better clocks ? And it’s also a more recent card (if that matters) and it’s also a lot cheaper if I’m not mistaken

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Compared to the Asus one

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The Gigabyte card also has an extra DP, and an extra HDMI

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It is also slightly smaller if you are limited on case space that feature could be nice

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Si yeah I think I would opt for the Gigabyte Aorus 2080 Super if I had the money to buy it !

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@lone pond

lone pond
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@verbal cairn the clocks are higher on the ROG one

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ROG one iis 50 bucks cheaper too

ancient crystal
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$120

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re: M.2 costs

verbal cairn
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Oopsie my bad I checked the Windforce 2080

ancient crystal
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sabrent rocket is $120 but that XPG is good too

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and this has been gone over already

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discord is a real butt

verbal cairn
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Honestly the Aorus 2080 Super seems slightly better IMO. The nice design and watercooling are pluses. You’ll be able to OC it with ease normally (the website says it is built for extreme OCing) @lone pond

lone pond
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Well ROG is better on OCing than Gigabyte

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Plus that is only waterrcooled

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Not that that's a problem

ancient crystal
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watercooling is expensive

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unless you have an AIO loop

lone pond
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@ancient crystal That is on AiO

ancient crystal
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oh look it's the ROG bootup logo

lone pond
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It's the ROG logo

ancient crystal
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i used to have an ROG PC from like the Ivy Bridge era

verbal cairn
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I never had any gigabyte nor ROG cards, are the ROG cards better for OC ?

ancient crystal
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and it had that as the bootup gif for windows

lone pond
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ROG has always been king on OC

verbal cairn
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Oh ok

ancient crystal
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it was state of the art for its time, Z77 board and a GTX 660 3GB (apparently the larger 3GB were only for OEMs, so i lucked out)

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it also had a turbo button for the OC to kick in (I am not joking about this)

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i later got a GTX 950 for it, that was quite the GPU in its time

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which... wasn't that long ago

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but it wasn't cheap like the 1050s now are

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it was considered a mid-range

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GPUs are cheap now

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that 950 cost me $300

lone pond
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950 was never a mid-range card

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You payed too much for that gpu

ancient crystal
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that's how much it cost at the beginning

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or maybe it was $250?

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i know for sure it was more than $200 though

lone pond
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It was 160 dollars

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That's what Nvidia prices it

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You might've bought an expensive version of the card

ancient crystal
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maybe

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seems like something i would've done at the time

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at least 5 years ago, during which time i willingly bought a lot of bad AMD processors and motherboards and sold off builds to make new builds

lone pond
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Better than doing exactly that in 2019 🙃

ancient crystal
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we don't have bad AMD processors anymore, except the athlons, those are awful

spare relic
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yee haw Athlon gang 😎

ancient crystal
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the ryzen series will perform at least adequately even on the cheapest CPUs

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they got rid of the A series in favor of ryzen G series i think

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FM2+ was the worst thing i ever spent my money on

lone pond
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Oh AMD is thriving rn - I've just been buying too much obsolete Piledriver/Bulldozer K10 junk off ebay.

ancient crystal
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lol

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bulldozer (and the ensuing architectural "leaps") was just a disaster

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i bought into it at the beginning

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got an FX-8350

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and a state of the art HD7950 GPU

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all told if i was smart i would've kept that until it started to suck

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but i sold it for this intel ROG machine i was talking about with the real actual turbo button

lone pond
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Those are nice cards, I think buildzoid has 5 7970's haha

spice prawn
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the 79xx cards are lovely

woeful loom
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So. I’ve got a question. I transferred my build to a new case added fans and changed the psu. Now I can’t get an image to display. Is it possible I killed the card?

graceful frost
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Possible? Yes
Likely? No

woeful loom
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Ok. Well I have no idea what to do now. What should I do

ancient crystal
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reseat your GPU and make sure your power cables are tightly inserted

woeful loom
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Ok

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I’ll try soon and let you know if that worked

ancient crystal
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make sure there is no user error - I am prone to such user errors myself

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trying to build quickly and efficiently because i have little tolerance for frustration

woeful loom
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I was being slow but I will try just to make sure

ancient crystal
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i am a fast builder, but i am not error free

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this next time i'm gonna slow it down

woeful loom
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It worked with a reseat

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Thanks

ancient crystal
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np, sometimes that's all it takes

twin crown
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aNNI too smart

quaint cipher
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haiu

twin crown
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Anni out here helping people

quaint cipher
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finally there isnt a dead chat

twin crown
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Anni I want to see ur setup i bet its nice

quaint cipher
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oi kakashi dont ignore me

twin crown
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I will

quaint cipher
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;---;

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ok boomer

twin crown
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ok weeber

quaint cipher
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right back at ya

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kakashier

obtuse pier
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It's not just me then. That's a relief.

novel shoal
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k, i'll take the clickbait..literally nothing in that says what card is being reviewed..i can only guess the xfx 5700xt thicc?

bleak moss
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Dont buy the thicc its just a meme card from what I understand.

cobalt blaze
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guys, best 2070 super for price?

sage mountain
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"for price"

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What price

peak pasture
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Probably the price of a 2070 Super

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He's probably not basing his decision over the price of stocks in cucumber.

cobalt blaze
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yeah, thanks.

sage mountain
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What is "the price" of a 2070s, there's quite a range there

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Much more of a range than that of cucumber stocks

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U want best performance 2070s? Best value?

obtuse pier
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this was the powercolor red devil 5700xt

wicked hound
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@bleak moss thicc shouldn't be horrible now. XFX did a knida sort recall on them to fix them. Still aren't amazing but if they are on a good sale they are a decent buy

obtuse pier
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its crazy what youtube does for consumers right?

twin crown
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honestly dude

lone pond
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@wicked hound so should I get XFX thicc or spend 20 more bucks for a different company?

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like Sapphire

livid pine
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i need some GPU help

obtuse pier
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whatcha looking for?

livid pine
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well more tech supp more than anything

obtuse pier
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someone could assist im sure

livid pine
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i have a RX 560 that dosent display, but the pcs i put it in are fully functioning

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i have alreafy repasted and everything

obtuse pier
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is the card powered? did you get proper mounting pressure when putting the card back together?

livid pine
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its an msi areo itx. no external power needed, it wasnt working before i repasted and it still wont after i pasted it.

obtuse pier
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it might be dead? i dont have experience with repasting gpus

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im not the one to ask lol

livid pine
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thats ok, im trying to become a well rounded expert in tech. this is the first time i have ever had such a problem like this.

wicked hound
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@lone pond I mean I dont know the whole story on it. You may get an old one due to inventory and then have to contact XFX for a replacement which could be a hassle

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for the temperature fix

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But $20 more for a $330 or $380 thing isnt much

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Probably spend the extra bit for the Sapphire/Reddragon

unkempt crater
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@lone pond 30% of that shroud is plastic, it performs worse than the reference design. Other cards in that price range are fine, but that card is the definition of ✨marketing✨

wicked hound
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@unkempt crater There was a recall to fix it

unkempt crater
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Oh really?

wicked hound
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it isnt amazing, but it isnt super horrible

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So long as it's a decent sale I can recommend it. Tho $20 difference isnt much to really recommend it over Reddragon or Sapphire

unkempt crater
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True

fleet pine
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Looking for a good graphics card for games like rust and ark any sugestions?

hearty pasture
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What res do you want to run at and frames

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A 1660 or even a 2060 s would be fine

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for 1080, 60 fps

tender monolith
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5700xt or 2060 for gaming no streaming

ancient crystal
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2060 is for streaming

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5700XT is much more powerful than a 2060 i believe

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it lacks nvidia's NVENC

tender monolith
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ok thanks

pseudo spruce
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I want to get a 5700xt later this year but I'm not sure which brand yet. I like Asus but from what I've read they seem to have issues with overheating.

wicked hound
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Asus 5700XTs suck

pseudo spruce
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Yeah I'm thinking of going with Sapphire. Their 5700XT's look really good.

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Gigabyte 5700XT's are getting good reviews as well but I don't know if they're locked or not. I know past Gigabyte cards were not overclockable. I don't want a card I can't overclock.

ember imp
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The Powercolor Red Devil and Sapphire Nitro+ are the best card for the 5700xt

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The Sapphire pulse is a good one if your on a budget or space is a concern

zinc ether
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What place should I go for sound card assistance?

spice prawn
open hazel
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asus strix doesnt suck

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asus tuf does

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my friend got a sapphire and if i were me 4 months ago i would wait to get one

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i got the blower style sapphire

verbal cairn
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I struggle choosing the good manufacturer for cards

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What would be the best option between these cards ?

obtuse pier
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Imo EVGA.

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Get the b stock one. It's cheaper.

verbal cairn
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You mean the 1 Fan one ?

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So the EVGA one above is still decent and better than the 1Fan one isn’t it

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@obtuse pier

obtuse pier
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If you're on a budget it will do what you need it to.

magic pebble
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unless you are doing a small form factor build I would never suggest a single fan gpu

obtuse pier
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I use them all the time in budget builds. Single fan pny cards are usually cheap and do the job.

verbal cairn
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I’m actually trying to get the best 1660 super possible, and just had these cards in minds

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Thanks for your help, I think I’m going to go for the EVGA 2 Fan card though, if it’s a good choice !

verbal cairn
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I’ll check that out too, thanks a lot

heavy raft
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Hello my people

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I'm trying to make a decision

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2060 super

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And have money left over

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2070 super and have no money left over

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Or save up some more for a 2080 super

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HeLp

fickle sigil
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I'm waiting for the 3000 series

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also just get the 2060 super if you're going to have money issues

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It's great for 1080p gaming on a budget

heavy raft
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I would wait for a 3000 series if I had something like a 1660

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But right now I have a little 1050ti

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4gb vram gang

fickle sigil
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Hmm, up to you then I reccommend either the 2060 super or the 2070 super

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If you're going to be playing in 1440p or higher get the 2080 super

dreamy dragonBOT
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Mrs_Everyshot#1466 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

heavy raft
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Wait what

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Oh yeah you cant swear in this server

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Yeah frick it. I'll just go with the 2060 super. I don't need anything crazy for what I do. Plus for a 2070 super it's like another 100 ish bucks for an extra 5-7 fps

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Then I could also buy myself a new headset

fickle sigil
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Yep

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Only reason I got the 2070 super a little while ago was because I play games in 1440p

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It's going in my Gf's system later though when I get the top end 3000 series card muahaha

crimson echo
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Ryzen 9 3900x with RX 5700 XT, will it bottleneck?

tender mulch
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Nah

noble cave
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I'm in 1440p with an RX 590, it's all about what you play. Generally 100-200 FPS, depends on the games and settings, and I'm an FPS and RPG guy.
Firm believer in original textures without AA as it's a bandaid to lazy textures. I prefer jaggies

tender mulch
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That's why the FPS is so high then..........

wicked hound
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@magic pebble Bit late here but some single fans actually do quite well. Pretty sure some single fan 2060 get better thermals than dual fans due to thickness

magic pebble
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but given the choice I would never pick a single fan. I would find a nice dual fan with both decent thermals and acoustics.

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triple fan would be even better but not all cases can fit 3 fans. evga dual fan cards usually perform great and are relatively silent

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I am a gigabyte/aorus guy, but their dual fan solutions tend to be noisy.

dense flicker
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i have gigabyte graphics card

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my brother has gigabyte motherboard

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LOVE ME INTENDER

magic pebble
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I shall show you greater appreciation than most others I don't know IRL

heavy raft
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Aaaaand 2060s purchased

wraith pasture
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still waiting for that aorus ugly sweater to ship

heavy raft
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🍿

bleak dagger
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Anyone got a good deal on a rx 5700/xt?

heavy raft
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@bleak dagger

magic pebble
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theo, I think most of aorus is closed till after new years.

wraith pasture
bleak dagger
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or sapphire rx 5700xt for $385

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any suggestions?

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pule

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pulse

verbal cairn
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I heard Sapphire and Powercolor have the best RX 5700 XTs, but I haven’t owned one of those before, so maybe you should check out some reviews before buying.

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@bleak dagger

ancient crystal
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the sapphire and powercolor are what you should be going with

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the powercolor red devil if you have room in your system

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has 3 fans and a huge heatsink

gray vapor
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Don't go for MSI

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They're good for motherboards but decent enough for GPU's

wicked hound
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MSI 5700(XT) is decent if on a good sale (they fixed cooling issues but it still isnt amazing)

gray vapor
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Some of the times for the front molding for the fans aren't done that great cause myself as well as other people had issues with MSI cards with the fans hitting the sides

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and this is with brand new cards

inner bluff
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Can someone help me with a graphics card problem

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my screen randomly goes black and comes back

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it's mostly when im playing games

hard wren
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check the cables and try a different cable

mighty island
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how much difference in performance would a zotac 1080 ti AMP edition have vs. nvidia 1080 ti founders edition?

hard wren
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I wouldnt think very much

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I have the FE 2080ti

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so yeah I misread that and just noticed you said 1080ti

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The Zotac is like 3-5% better

mighty island
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okay, so if they're the same price i should go for the zotac?

verbal cairn
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Go for the Zotac IMO

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Good manufacturer cards > FE cards I think

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Plus FE cooling isn’t great

obtuse pier
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@inner bluff which card?

quasi flicker
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If I play Fortnite Chapter 2 at max settings, with a 144hz monitor, FPS capped at 144, and with a Red Devil 5700 XT will I be able to get 144 FPS almost steady?

dense flicker
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youre not gonna hit 144fps on any card at max settings

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def not with a 5700xt

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if you lower the settings to medium you could hit 144fps

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max settings is just a no no for high fps

quasi flicker
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What about just lower than max?

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@dense flicker

sage mountain
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Is this at 1080p?

quasi flicker
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Yes

dense flicker
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med to high could get 144

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but not max

sage mountain
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From what I'm reading a 5700xt will have no problem hitting 144 on max at 1080p

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Is epic quality "max"?

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Although there seem to be an abnormal amount of drops

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For any gpu

quasi flicker
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Yes

sage mountain
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Just seems like poor optimization

quasi flicker
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Yeah it's UE4 so that'll happen

sage mountain
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Low 1% lows all across the board

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Here's what I'm going off of

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Huh, my phone won't let me paste wtf

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There we go

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Nah I was just being dumb

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Lol

quasi flicker
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Oh lol

sage mountain
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Nothing new

quasi flicker
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Okay thanks btw

spice prawn
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so, foiled by your own traitor of a brain :)

sage mountain
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But yeah 144 with 5700xt seems doable

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Worst case scenario u drop a few settings and you're there

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The drops are just unlucky

quasi flicker
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Okay

north wolf
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Dose The Radeon RX 480 still good for 2020 or shall I upgrade?

tender mulch
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Upgrade if you can and have the CPU to support a new card

north wolf
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I have core i7 6700 but which gpu shall I buy, because I have freesync on my monitor I want a AMD that is under 300€

tender mulch
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That would be an nVidia card then at that price point. nVidia supports Freesync also

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1660 super or somewhere around there

ancient crystal
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nvidia doesn't support freesync, it supports a similar adaptive sync on some monitors, not all

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it's very dodgy

spice prawn
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wrong

tender mulch
spice prawn
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they do support freesync @ancient crystal

ancient crystal
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oh so they officially support it now?

fallen schooner
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Anni go back to sleep.

tender mulch
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Since January

spice prawn
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for a fair while now

fallen schooner
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it has to be a certain monitor to unlock it tho

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the g-sync capable/compatible

spice prawn
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because they are basically going about it with a semi-whitelist implementation iirc

ancient crystal
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that's what i was saying

spice prawn
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no. that was not what you said :)

ancient crystal
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i was trying to

fallen schooner
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Anni needs more naptime 😄

ancient crystal
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sometimes my words are not right

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i think i'm fine on sleep

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i'll get tired again later

fallen schooner
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box needs moar naptime

spice prawn
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but why? all you do is sit around all day :P

fallen schooner
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wow 😦

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you're right though... :\

spice prawn
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sorry not sorry :P

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it was a bit too tempting

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you being a box that takes it all etc etc

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:P

fallen schooner
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I mean yeah... that..

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.>

spice prawn
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:)

fallen schooner
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first one to redeem redeemer wins!

north wolf
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Nice so can u tell me in an easy way ,shall I buy the gtx 1660 or Radeon Vega 56?

tender mulch
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Those are neck and neck. Do you do any streaming?

north wolf
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Nope

tender mulch
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Then it's a toss up

fallen schooner
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who do you like more

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nvidia, or radeon.

north wolf
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I like mony

fallen schooner
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so then go with the cheaper of the two...

north wolf
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Actually I don't care about the brand but I only care about the preformens

ancient crystal
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a used vega 56 is $200, how does 1660 look in terms of pricing

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probably the same

tender mulch
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They're in the EU so hard to say

ancient crystal
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ah

fallen schooner
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I'd go with the 1660.

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cause it's newer.

north wolf
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That make sense to me

ancient crystal
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the 1660 is going to generate a lot less heat/use a lot less power as well

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i'm the weird person who would actually buy a vega, but not a 56

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but those things are power hogs

lucid walrus
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for my next build will a Ryzen 7 3700x bottleneck a RTX 2080? I'm a streamer so @ me

ancient crystal
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no

spice prawn
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@north wolf you in a hurry to get the card?

ancient crystal
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@lucid walrus a 3700x won't come close to bottlenecking that card

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it is a powerful CPU

tender mulch
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I has

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Can confirm

spice prawn
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never underestimate the user

north wolf
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@spice prawn not really

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But my card is probably broke and can't run new games

lucid walrus
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What about a 3600 non x overclocked? @spice prawn

north wolf
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Like the division 2

spice prawn
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@north wolf reason is the 5600 series that is rumoured to arrive in first quarter 2020.

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with details about it being presented at CES in 2 weeks

north wolf
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So if I wait a little longer a can get them cheaper?

spice prawn
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keep in mind, it is a rumour. there is no guarantee.

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it is a fact that the current lineup of cards from AMD is missing something between the 5500 and 5700 series

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fairly wide money gap there.

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the timeline is what is missing/uncertain.

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but it is the eternal trade-off when buying parts

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buy now? you get to play now.

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personally i would wait the 2 weeks if possible.

north wolf
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Actually I think I will wait

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If they release some good stuff I will suffer my money

spice prawn
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:)

north wolf
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So thank you all for help 🙏

spice prawn
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best of luck :)

ancient crystal
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i think AMD is also missing something above the XT

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like a 5800/5800XT

tender mulch
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The other thing is, GDDR6 prices are expected to go up next year. GPU's might not get any cheaper

spice prawn
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not likely to happen in the near future @ancient crystal

ancient crystal
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well i'm not the person to buy it, mind you

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it's just i noticed AMD was not really competitive in the higher ranks at all

tender mulch
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Nope, they are mid range right now

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They have no 2080 competition

spice prawn
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IF they are going to compete there, i dont think it will happen until Q2/3 at the earliest

ancient crystal
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like Radeon VII is kind of just an expensive Vega 64

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it costs about twice as much as a regular 5700 new

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and I think AMD are still making them

spice prawn
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considering what they are aimed at, the vega 64 and the VII are not in the same market at all

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vega 64 gaming chip

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VII ? not a gaming chip.

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yes, it can be used for it.

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but not the target market

ancient crystal
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it was still sold to the consumer market and the consumers bought them expecting a gaming chip

spice prawn
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and?

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consumers expect rainbows and unicorns when they fart.

ancient crystal
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my point was the marketing wasn't really clear

spice prawn
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marketing is not supposed to be clear (in this day and age)

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i would LOVE for it to be clear. but that is not the reality we live in

ancient crystal
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yeah, i don't think it ever was supposed to be

spice prawn
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and just in case it is not clear. that is all marketing.

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not just amd

ancient crystal
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money is all that matters really

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i don't actually know what the VII is "for"

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is it for compute?

spice prawn
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yes

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it is a 16gig card with a semi-unlocked double precision rate

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its basically their professional m20 card in consumer form

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IF you need a LOT of memory for compute, it is a really good card (if you dont need cuda)

ancient crystal
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it seems like on the consumer end it'd be thinly veiled marketing to miners

spice prawn
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again, that is on the consumers

ancient crystal
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and yet, here we are - it seems like the VII would be a better mining card than the vega 56/64 were

spice prawn
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shrugs

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that is for the miners to determine.

outer linden
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What is version 123?

ancient crystal
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the miners are kind of a blight on the GPU market i think, given how they drive prices up

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in what context, Durpy

outer linden
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Old 2hol

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Is that the last version with mammoths and nations?

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Was there a newer one?

ancient crystal
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what is 2hol

outer linden
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It's a game

ancient crystal
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i know it's a game

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but what is the actual name of it

outer linden
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Two hours one life

ancient crystal
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oh, i'm not familiar with it but it sounds interesting

outer linden
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I want to run it and dont knowing I can

ancient crystal
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you can probably run it on a complete potato

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i looked at the game briefly and yeah i'd be really surprised if you can't run it

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unless it's a CPU heavy game

obsidian vine
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Any of y’all know what this annoying buzz in my pc could be

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I think I’ve narrowed it down to the graphics card

ancient crystal
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it kind of sounds like coil whine

obsidian vine
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Cus I turned down the power limit in afterburner and the buzzing got quieter

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This is my first build idk what that is

ancient crystal
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in which case a GPU is most likely to be the culprit

tender mulch
#

That's coil whine in the GPU. Could be caused by the PSU

#

PSU with bad ripple will do that. What PSU is it?

obsidian vine
#

A Corsair TXM 550W

#

I just bought these parts. Should I return the psu and get a higher watt one

tender mulch
#

What GPU?

obsidian vine
#

Rx 5700 xt

tender mulch
#

K, let me look

#

Well, AMD recommends a minimum 600 watt PSU with 700 recommended

#

"• Minimum 600W (recommended 700W) PSU with up to an 8-pin + 6-pin PCI
Express Auxiliary connectors. This PSU recommendation is only for one Radeon
RX 5700 series GPU installed per system. "

obsidian vine
#

So return the psu

#

Got it

#

Might as well get a 750

tender mulch
#

I would bump up the wattage a bit yeah

#

650-700

obsidian vine
#

Welp thx for the help both of you

tender mulch
#

Welcome!

mighty island
#

a 1080 Ti shouldn't have any problems paired up with a 3600X right?

tender mulch
#

Nope

mighty island
#

thanks

#

my inner idiot is wondering how many fps i can reach with 1080 Ti playing league at 768p minimum settings 🤔

#

for "science"

ancient crystal
#

i'm betting 900 or something

#

but there are probably league players who do that

mighty island
#

my laptop 1050 is able to push 210 in a solo custom

tender mulch
#

most game engines have a hard FPS cap

#

So you'll get to that and stop

mighty island
#

do you know what the hard cap is for league

#

vanilla minecraft at minimum settings hmm

tender mulch
#

I think MC has a 300 FPS cap

mighty island
#

the best monitors out there are only 240hz anyways right?

tender mulch
#

Ya

mighty island
#

but big numbers cool!

ancient crystal
#

apparently 300-400fps in league is common

#

but at a certain point it just starts going wonky and lagging because the FPS is too high

#

guessing they probably now have it capped just below that

#

personally i use adaptive sync w/144Hz monitor

#

and i'm good with that

#

it's good because frame drops don't affect the experience negatively like they do without adaptive sync

#

they still suck but adaptive sync will keep the monitor sync to the framerate (and sometimes double frames at very low framerates) and it makes the experience smoother overall

mighty island
#

i'm using a notebook 1050 right now

#

and i get about 70 fps in busy teamfights

ancient crystal
#

i'm using a 1650 right now, and that won't change until february or march

mighty island
#

i intend to cap my fps at 144 anyways since that's what my monitor will be

#

i just wanna see big number for science shrug_idk

ancient crystal
#

all you have to do is turn on adaptive sync in your card settings

#

and like magic, it syncs to your framerate

mighty island
#

magic

#

@tender mulch my friend is at 1100 fps in minecraft right now with a 1050 Ti

#

minimum settings vanilla

tender mulch
#

1100 fps wut

mighty island
#

so no clue what the hard cap is then

tender mulch
#

Why is there a / in it?

#

Typically it's just XXX fps

#

Ah

#

Optifine

mighty island
#

no clue i haven't played minecraft in like 6 years

#

why is optifine doing that?

#

is it showing the fps that would be achieved without it

tender mulch
#

No

#

first number is FPS

#

Second is Minimum

mighty island
#

ah

#

makes sense

crimson echo
#

RX 5700 XT to RTX 2080 Ti, is it worth the price?

tender mulch
#

Depends

#

1440p or 4K gaming?

#

Streaming?

crimson echo
#

1440p gaming

#

no streaming

tender mulch
#

2080 super is $700

#

So....$300 more over the 5700 XT. IMO, not worth it unless you want bleeding edge with everything maxed out

#

What processor?

crimson echo
#

Ryzen 9 3900x

tender mulch
#

OH yeah, that's good

#

Performance can't be beat but if you already have a 5700XT i'd wait until the next generation

crimson echo
#

alright, thanks

wicked hound
#

You'd certainly get a decent boost in perf. 15% I think? However, that comes at a huge cost. Not worth unless you're rather rich

fleet rose
#

@north wolf vega 56 is 15% faster than the 1660, also better fps all around. Plus you can oc the Vega 56 increasing performance to equal the the Vega 64. Do some research. Don't let Green Team tell you what to buy. Just do some comparison research on the cards and make your own informed decision.

tender mulch
#

1660 super, not regular 1660

wicked hound
#

Was V56 close to 1070 or 1070Ti?

#

no BIOS mod

#

and no raw compute, actual game perf

tender mulch
#

1660 super and it are tied

#

stock for stock

spice prawn
#

meaning that is is close to the old 1070

tender mulch
#

Thereabouts

wicked hound
#

So sure you could do BIOS mod, but there is a small risk of bricking

tender mulch
#

And it's hot and power hungry

wicked hound
#

plus you have to go used which some people dislike.
Tho that can be fixed with UV

spice prawn
#

which only really truly works if you know what you are doing

#

(as in, it doesnt end up unstable etc etc)

#

which imo moves it outside the reach of most consumers

wicked hound
#

That's true

spice prawn
#

mind, i would love if that wasnt the case

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Crazyfox0707#9169 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
#

hey is there a hard test i could use to gauge how good my new GPU is?

tender mulch
#

Heaven Unengine benchmark

spice prawn
#

yes, load up your favorite game, see how long it takes for you to stop smiling :)

tender mulch
#

or any of the 3DMark apps

spice prawn
#

(and stop worrying about benchmarks :) )

tender mulch
#

Well, if you're trying to OC, need to benchmark

#

for stability

spice prawn
#

correct, missing info to determine if that is the case thou :)

#

for this particular usecase

raw falcon
#

Hey so ive been having some problems with my pc as of a couple of months ago

#

my psu had some issues so we got a new one

#

i put all the cables in and it seems all good

#

til i start downloading stuff or start playing games (destiny 2 or league of legends) for a long time

#

my screen freezes then it goes black

#

my fans are still going so im assuming everything is still going

#

but im not getting any video

#

this seems like my issue

#

but i dont know if its worth it to try

#

if anyone else has any tips please dm me

#

:3

#

@ancient crystal since i know you love me heres an issue ive been having :))))

raw falcon
#

i should also say before it crashes it turns off the internet then the sound bugs out

#

i tried the fix that they said in the post and it didnt work

#

so now im stumped

spice prawn
#

@raw falcon it is a fairly simple solution to try

#

be mindfull that some of the stuff that is mentioned in post #12 can fry the card

ancient crystal
#

it sounds like a software issue of some kind

wicked hound
#

buddy of mine is having fun issues with his PC. Graphical artifacts with shadows being weird and lagging. Dont know whether its driver or defective GPU. Tried DDU, mobo/GPU BIOS update, and win update. Already worked with other GPUs before. System specs are
-2600
-MSI x470 gaming plus
-5700XT

obtuse pier
#

what was the gpu they used before?

#

I was having issues with my 5700xt....i had 3 of them and kept having the same issues....I can't say what the issues were caused by but switching to the 2070S fixed the issues i was having

wicked hound
#

1060 3GB, 1070, and 2060S. I said that the 2060S wasnt worth it so he returned it for 5700XT

obtuse pier
#

now your friend is having those issues?

wicked hound
#

apparently I was wrong

#

yeah

obtuse pier
#

yeah its the card

#

ill just suggest not using the 5700xt RN

wicked hound
#

tho im wondering if its software or hardware rn. Whether you can change around settings or something of sorts

obtuse pier
#

some people haven't has any issues but others catastrophic issues

#

ive tried pcie 3.0 2.0 and 4.0 nothing

#

even talked to support and they couldnt tell me how to fix it

#

id assume software issue but it could be hardware. i mean i dont see how you get 3 faulty gpus in a row but its possible

wicked hound
#

yeah

woven tartan
#

5700 xt worth the hype?

wicked hound
#

most of the time. Except for when drivers say otherwise

ancient crystal
#

it's a combination of all the hardware in the system and all the drivers reacting together, this used to happen in the early 2000s all the time

#

you'd get new hardware and everything would go bonkers

#

the troubleshooting would go on forever

quasi flicker
#

So I want to save a little money on my card, it's a Red Devil 5700 XT and Amazon says in very good condition would it be bad to buy?

#

Oh you have to scroll down and tap/click on New/used

tender mulch
#

That's a good card. But buying used is always a risk.

verbal cairn
#

The card itself is really great

#

You see if you want to buy used, yeah.

heavy raft
#

Never even heard of powercolor

tender mulch
#

Really?

#

They've been around quite a while

#

Sinve the 90's anyway

heavy raft
#

I've only known of msi, evga, gigabyte, asus, zotac, and that's about it

#

And of course founders edition cards

tender mulch
#

No XFX?

#

They used to be more popular, not sure what happened

heavy raft
#

I think I've heard of them

tender mulch
#

They used to do lifetime warranties on cards

heavy raft
#

I wish other companies did that

tender mulch
#

they don't anymore. I think it was a decision that bit them

heavy raft
#

Oh I see

tender mulch
#

Now they're two years

heavy raft
#

XFX is mostly an AMD card company

tender mulch
#

Yep

heavy raft
#

Nvidia fan right here

tender mulch
#

Trying to remember which one of theirs I bought.

#

It was years ago.

#

I think it was a 4850?

#

4870?

heavy raft
#

I know AMD still has good cards, I'm just more familiar with nvidia cards

tender mulch
#

5700XT is their sweet spot right now

#

2070 performance for $100 less

heavy raft
#

Yea

tender mulch
#

But nVidia still rules the streaming world with NVENC

heavy raft
#

Oh yeah

tender mulch
#

AMD"s encoder is poo

heavy raft
tender mulch
#

They just threw it in and it's terrible

heavy raft
#

Yeah

#

Main reason I just bought a 2060s is because I want to start to get into streaming

#

Currently I have a 1050ti

tender mulch
#

But if you arne't going to stream, the 5700XT can't be beat for the money at 1440p and VR

#

Don't expect ray tracing on that card

#

I have one and the performance hit is oof

#

even at 1080p

heavy raft
#

3 games support it

#

Or like 5 do

#

Ray tracing isnt important to me

tender mulch
#

Good

#

Otherwise it's a great card for streaming

gray vapor
#

I tried hardware encoding with a RX 570 on Twitch once and boy was it a stuttering mess on the stream

heavy raft
#

Only game I would play with ray tracing is minecraft

gray vapor
#

and the game was Deadpool

heavy raft
tender mulch
#

i mean, the 5700 series streams OK but honestly the quality is garbage

#

when compared to NVENC

heavy raft
#

What's amd's encoder called

tender mulch
#

Dunno, it's part of the Adrenaline package

heavy raft
#

Ah

#

Welp service is about to drop

#

My flight just took off

gray vapor
#

It's called HEVC

heavy raft
#

Later plebs

tender mulch
#

Have fun!

heavy raft
#

Wait it's still here

#

Ok maybe like 4 minutes

gray vapor
#

?

heavy raft
#

Nevermind its dying

sage mountain
#

Remember when nvidia ceo said buying a gpu without Ray tracing in 2019 is crazy

#

Xd

tender mulch
#

They gambled and lost

#

Game support needs to mature first

spice prawn
#

@gray vapor the AMD encoder is not HEVC. it is VCE (video code engine)

#

HEVC is a codec

lone pond
#

i have a question, why does my new to me, old model have sudden 100% power spikes and sometimes during that it spikes 2 to 3 degrees Celsius

spice prawn
#

what model?

lone pond
#

it is an AMD radeon XFX 460

spice prawn
#

what are you using to read that info?

lone pond
#

AMD adrenaline 2020 (came with the driver)

spice prawn
#

ok

#

you have a browser open when it happens?

lone pond
#

no

spice prawn
#

hm.

#

logic dictates that it is "something" that activates

#

keep an eye on what is actually running when you notice it

lone pond
#

@ Naed is right on the HEVC/NVENC explanation

lone pond
#

ok

tender mulch
#

Two things: Any kind of a modern load is going to hammer that GPU. 2. Thermal paste is probably old and needs replaced.

lone pond
#

well i have really been testing hard with hard games (beamng and house flipper full throttle it has been just trucking through fine) i think it may be thermal paste

jaunty sluice
#

anyone know a place where someone will buy me a cheap graphics card? (i.e. GT 1030)

granite juniper
#

eBay

jaunty sluice
#

not buy one from me

tender mulch
#

No begging

jaunty sluice
#

i know

tender mulch
#

So you posted it in three different channels

jaunty sluice
#

hm?

#

i posted it in general but then found there was a graphics card channel

heavy raft
#

become friends with a rich kid @jaunty sluice

fallen schooner
round mason
#

So..... Will amd contend with nvidia dominiated high tier gpus this 2020 or nahh

granite juniper
#

nobody knows

devout pumice
#

Hey excuse me, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but
I have a base RX 5700 XT, and it has a static red LED, but im trying to change the color or hide it?
is there something like a side GPU plate? I know that backplates exist

ancient crystal
#

i don't think such a thing exists

gray vapor
#

Use the included program for the LED to change the color or turn it off

raw falcon
#

Ok so part 2 of my problem

#

i turned the power usage of my gpu down to -20% instead of a black screen i got a blue screen (DPC Watchdog Violation) any ideas on how i can fix this dm me if you need info on my pc :3

#

also if you text me here @ me so i can see it

gray vapor
karmic solar
#

So this sort of contains go GPUs,

When it comes to the chipset, is there really a difference between GPUs? As in isthere a difference between, say the founders edition of the 2080S vs one of Asus's version of it

round mason
#

no

#

@karmic solar cooling solution and ports are different

wicked hound
#

Dual BIOS support, easier to shunt mod, XOC BIOS support

amber birch
#

anyone know if gtx 1070 hybrid ftw is good gpu?

remote sequoia
#

It's ok OK GPU, but for the price you can get better performing GPUs for the price. Unless you get a really good deal on a used one. @amber birch

prisma siren
#

Could I get a recommendation for a graphics card that will work with a Tuf b450m-plus gaming motherboard please. I'm thinking of getting a MSI Rx 580 but I feel like there are others I could look into.

remote sequoia
#

The motherboard doesn't really have anything to do with the card you pick it can run a 2080Ti just as well as a 580

prisma siren
#

Ahh okay, thanks. It's just that it's going to be my first build so I wanted something decent and didnt want to overdo it right off the bat

remote sequoia
#

It's more about what your budget is

#

Kinda hard to overdo it if you can afford it ;)

prisma siren
#

True

#

Something around around £150-200 then. I just don't know much about it all though so unaware of what's best

karmic solar
#

Ryoku, I'm just sticking with rtx cards

verbal cairn
#

I'll try to find something BRB @prisma siren

remote sequoia
#

@prisma siren 580 and 1660 are the top $200 options

prisma siren
#

Thanks a lot <3

karmic solar
#

Honestly half the time I forget there's a 1600 series

#

Just like how there's a 590

remote sequoia
#

590 is a decent card for the price bump

karmic solar
#

But why does it exist

#

Nothing else goes past 80

karmic solar
#

I guess we had a lack of communication

#

I'm pretty sure he said it was a nvidia

#

Lemme check

verbal cairn
#

It's for useless yūutsu

remote sequoia
#

Lmao I didn't notice the budget was in pounds

karmic solar
#

It exists

#

BUT WHY

verbal cairn
#

ew 1 fan

karmic solar
#

There's a 2 can version

verbal cairn
#

o ok

karmic solar
#

Nope

#

Only one fan

#

And they're not even made or sold anywhere

prisma siren
#

Oo, thanks a lot

karmic solar
#

Not to mention they have a tdp of 365w ...

verbal cairn
#

In your price range I would cop a RX 590 or 1660S if one ever goes on sale @prisma siren

remote sequoia
#

^

#

Dumb sorry I didn't notice the currency

prisma siren
#

Lel

#

Is there a website that gives notifications for price drops?

remote sequoia
#

Honey

verbal cairn
#

I believe there's also a way to set notification alarms on PCPP

#

For when a part price drops

remote sequoia
#

Honey can notify of price drops ontop of applying discounts

prisma siren
#

Never knew that.

verbal cairn
#

yeah Honey's a nice chrome extension

#

easy discount codes

remote sequoia
#

Not that honey is needed for Newegg, they give you the codes right on the product pages

verbal cairn
prisma siren
#

It's so much for shipping though from newegg for me sad_laugh_orange

#

Originally I was going to buy my cpu off there then I saw +£50 shipping.

amber birch
#

ouch

remote sequoia
#

🤔 usually only the cases have shipping, unless it's a 3rd party seller on the site

#

But what do I know I live across the ocean from you Dumb

obtuse pier
#

£50 shipping. That's mental.

verbal cairn
#

I feel you, I get so much fees too living in SK.

deft plaza
#

yo

#

i need something better than a gt 1030 for perrfered under 400

#

pls dm me if you have a decent card recommendation i don't use this dis often

nocturne dagger
#

For $400 get a used 1080

#

Or can get a 2060/super

verbal cairn
#

Or even a 5700 or 5700 XT for better performance

#

For around 400 you get a decent 5700 XT

#

@deft plaza

#

I prefer sending the recommendations in the server itself rather than DMing, please understand.

tender mulch
#

Depends on if OP will be streaming or onot

#

For pure gaming, go 5700XT

#

For streaming, go nVidia with NVENC

verbal cairn
#

Streaming 2060S I guess

tender mulch
#

Yes. AMD has an encoder but for now the quality is sub par

verbal cairn
#

NVENC is a + for streamers for sure

deft plaza
#

Thx guys appreciate the help

#

I’ll look at those cards and get back to you

ancient crystal
#

lol did someone just figure out about fermi

#

burnin' up the dance floor

peak jewel
#

Do you guys think that a GTX 1660 is pretty good for mid range gaming?

tender mulch
#

Ye, for 1080p

#

1660 super

tame sorrel
#

Ti

peak jewel
#

Yeah bu tthe pc I am buying has just a 1660

tender mulch
#

For 1080p gaming at med-high settings it will work

spiral forum
#

It's a decent card

#

Especially for older games like GTA V

#

You can run off of very high-ultra and still have a fun experience at 1080 P

golden iron
#

Guys which of the following gpu's is worth buying (i'm from Argentina)? Asrock RX 570 Phantom Gaming D $170
Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590 $240 (prices USD)

tender mulch
#

If those are your best options, RX590

golden iron
#

Well the Asus 1650 Super Phoenix OC costs $220. But i kinda want 8gb because i plan play on med-high rdr2 and a plague tale innocence

tender mulch
#

590 is faster than the 1650

golden iron
#

Yeah i know. Then the 590 it is

#

Thanks dude

tender mulch
#

YW

#

Only thing I could say is that if you can find a 1660 or 1660 super for the same price as the 590 it would be worth it

merry garden
#

what is the difference between a regular card and what i see now as super

tender mulch
#

Clock speed and CUda cores

#

Super is the new TI

merry garden
#

so super is better i would think then

tender mulch
#

Indeed it is

merry garden
#

ok thanks

tender mulch
#

Welcome

#

SOmetimes RAM quantity also

#

2060 vs 2060 super

lone pond
#

@tender mulch 2060 super is better for fps per dollar

tender mulch
#

Of course

#

I don't recommend the standard cards unless circumstances require it like budget or something

robust needle
#

Is the gtx 1650 super worth the price

tender mulch
#

Depends on what you're upgrading from and what you want to do

robust needle
#

I don't have a gpu yet I have the ryzen 3200g which has integrated graphics.

tender mulch
#

Ah, in that case, it's a good budget card yes

#

1080p gaming at low-med settings

robust needle
#

Thanks

tender mulch
#

Welcome

granite juniper
#

I’d say high settings

lone pond
#

What should I do? I want at least 75 fps on games on ultra settings and I am getting a PC with rtx 2060. Should I immediately sell the 2060 and get a 2060 super (PC is prebuilt)or wait until an RTX 3060 gpu comes out next year? Future games are gonna get intense with graphics and I don't want to play them with low frame rate or lag.

tender mulch
#

Uh

#

should be able to do 75FPS on Ultra most games

#

provided it's 1080p

#

I have that card, they aren't bad

lone pond
#

Hmm, I think there will be games in several years that the rtx 2060 cannot run, I am just worried because I do not have money for pc parts.

tender mulch
#

The super isn't worth the upgrade

#

use it for now

#

Replace it when it doesn't do what you want

#

It should be good for 2-3 years

lone pond
#

Ok, thanks!

tender mulch
#

YW

#

It's a capable card and does well at 1080p

#

Just don't turn on Ray Tracing 😉

lone pond
#

Got it

tender mulch
#

rainbow 6 siege is someting like 130 FPS on Ultra lol

lone pond
#

Dang

lone pond
#

2060 great card but like Bekora said don't use ray tracing

lone pond
#

Is a 1060 6gb worth it?

tender mulch
#

Depends on what you're doing with it

#

and what you're upgrading from

#

and what you currently have for CPU etc

maiden sun
#

Ok so I have a gtx 1050

#

And an rx 580

#

Both in one system

#

Is there a way to make one used only for nvenc and one for everything else?

wicked hound
#

plug your display into the 580. Then in whatever recording software you use select NVENC as your encoder, may have to select which GPU to use as well

maiden sun
#

What a chad! Thanks dude

wicked hound
#

welcome

hexed forge
#

Wait why don’t use ray tracing

tender mulch
#

FOr what, the 2060?

#

Huge performance hit

#

well under 60 FPS

hexed forge
#

Oh I thought he said 2070 lol

tender mulch
#

On the 2070 go ahead

#

It has plenty of power for that

hexed forge
#

Do you find ray tracing worth it? Like should I even consider upgrading for that feature? Keep in mind I’m still on 970 but I also won’t upgrade til at least April lol

tender mulch
#

Eh, not really

#

also considering only 5 games support it

#

it's a big OOF right now

hexed forge
#

What notable games support it? Besides tomb raider that’s the only one I know

tender mulch
#

Um, BattleField

ashen gulch
#

Metro Exodus

tender mulch
#

Cyberpunk 2077 coming out

#

Control

ashen gulch
#

Deliver us the Moon

tender mulch
#

wut

ashen gulch
#

Quake II RTX

tender mulch
#

That has RT?

ashen gulch
#

Atomic Heart

#

Youngblood

#

COD MW

hexed forge
#

Gasp I was lied to

#

That’s more than 5 alright time to go into debt

ashen gulch
#

and maybe dyling light 2

hexed forge
#

I’m jk but no see I’m hopeful for it lol

tender mulch
#

As of September, some of those were still waiting for RT patches

#

100% honest right now

#

It's not worth it

#

maybe check again when you're ready to buy in April

#

Landscape could change a lot by then

hexed forge
#

Well my big upgrade in April is ram and vr. I just might do gpu but my original plan was to do cpu ram and mobo but I got those early. And originally was going to wait on gpu for another year or 2 after

tender mulch
#

970 would actually be OK at VR

hexed forge
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970 still runs great

tender mulch
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Honestly

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Run that card until it doesn't do what you want

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Should be VR OK for a while

hexed forge
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The only issue I’ve run into on vr was CPU bottleneck

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But I fixed that lol

tender mulch
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I was gonna say, people VR on Ryzen 1300x

hexed forge
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I had an a8-6600k and it ran most vr games fine

tender mulch
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Yeah, I honestly think the 970 will be fine for a while

hexed forge
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There’s some features I want from the 1000 and 2000 series but as far as power you’re right

tender mulch
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Shoot, if you aren't going to stream get a 5700

hexed forge
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Wait I thought the 5700 was amds big flagship gpu right now

tender mulch
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5700XT

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$100 less than 2070

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same performance

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except streaming, bad encoder for that

hexed forge
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Meh. Nvidia is still better at gpus atm so ima stick with em lol

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I like the option to do anything I want with my pc

tender mulch
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Well, better at GPU's depends entirely on the use secenario lol

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Just say you don't want AMD and prefer nVidia

hexed forge
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Actually I prefer amd but from what I’ve heard amd got some limitations. Granted still being in 900 series doesn’t help me much lol

tender mulch
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Only limitation with them are two things

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Hardware encoder is poo

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No competition for the 2080 series

hexed forge
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But what is the limitations of nvidia that amd has surpassed?

tender mulch
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Price to performance, the 5700Xt wins the 2070 market

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Better/same performance for $100 less money

hexed forge
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Fair. I do like that amd is cheaper and that’s why I told my cousin to get one but also it seems that the software tools that come with nvidia are more abundant than amd as well. At least in my experience but i Haven’t personally had much hands on with and gpus since the 5650

tender mulch
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Like I said, it depends on the use scenario

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There is no one thing best for everyone

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For someone who just wants good 140p performance that won't be streaming, 5700XT all the way.

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For someone who wants to stream, you really can't beat NVENC so nVidia it is

hexed forge
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What about for editing videos and sound

tender mulch
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That's a CPU thing

hexed forge
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Videos?

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I thought gpu helped handle that

tender mulch
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Eh, a little bit. Both are OK for that

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For serious video editing you want like a Quadro or something anyway

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For non-commerical users either would be fine, it's mostly CPU dependent

hexed forge
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I went from the 5650 to a 560 ti and my editing and video processing time reduced significantly. Although right now I’m only doing audio edit but with an upgrade from 6600k to ryzen 5 2600 I haven’t noticed any improvement on processing time lol

tender mulch
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That's kind of surprising

hexed forge
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I think it’s because it’s being saved to a hdd and it was already going a decent speed so maybe limitations of the hdd? But editing itself like noise reducing an entire clip doesn’t go any faster either which I doubt has anything to do with read/write speeds

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So idk lol

ancient crystal
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560 Ti is a complete potato too

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that's probably why you didn't notice anything

tender mulch
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Coming from a 5650 that was a good upgrade

ancient crystal
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yeah but still

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getting a lot of performance out of it for a modern video editing suite might be asking too much

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now the CPU upgrade is really interesting though

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you'd think that would do quite a lot

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50% more cores, more IPC

tender mulch
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Depends on the program though

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might be limited to how many cores it uses

ancient crystal
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depends on if it's using all the cores yeah, you're right

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but still more IPC shouldn't go unnoticed

hexed forge
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No that was back when the 600 series was the big scene

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Now I’m at 970 and have been for the last 4 years

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My 5650 broke so a friend let me borrow his 560 for a while And it was a pretty hefty upgrade for me. I even complained that it was broken cause my games were seemingly going 2x the speed and he had to explain to me that that’s normal gameplay lol

gilded fulcrum
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Oh man, a 5650.

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I just went from a 6850 to a 2070 super this month.

ancient crystal
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i'm dealing with a GTX 1650 right now

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more power is required

wicked hound
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like... wattage? Wow that must be a small PSU

ancient crystal
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no, not wattage

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like i need a better GPU

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i'll have one, too

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probably february

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power supply is RM750

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so i can take pretty much anything

tender mulch
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2080 super is $700 or so

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2080 TI is $1,000 or more

lone pond
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If i was to do a build with an i5 and 16gb of ram... What kind of gpu would be suitable for that and could i use an rtx with those?

tender mulch
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RTX is only viable with 2070 or better

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and it will depend onthe i5

lone pond
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Oh

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i5 9600k

tender mulch
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That'll run a 2070

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2060 with ray tracing is too much of a performance hit

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sub 60 FPS

lone pond
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Hm alright so a gtx 2070?

tender mulch
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RTX 2070 super

lone pond
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Ti?

tender mulch
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More expensive, I'd go super honestly

lone pond
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Ah alright, im still learning putting what kinda parts with what.

buoyant basin
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Hi, I'm looking for a new GPU, is Zotac trustworthy for a 250€ GTX 1660 Super GPU ? Thanks in advance.

tender mulch
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Yes

buoyant basin
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That's concise. Thank you XD

tender mulch
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YW

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Doesn't need any more explanation. Zotac is a good brand.

buoyant basin
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I know Gigabyte, MSI, Asus and Sapphire, but I've never really heard of Zotac, I just wanted to know.

tender mulch
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EVGA is, IMO, the best nVidia brand

ancient crystal
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Zotac is like #2 after EVGA for nvidia cards

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yeah

tender mulch
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But that also depends on the country

ancient crystal
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i think EVGA's warranty is different outside the US

cyan vault
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What changes

ancient crystal
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and usually what they're desired for mostly is the warranty

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i don't know what changes

tender mulch
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Cooling quality, actually

cyan vault
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For good or bad

ancient crystal
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i know it may be different

tender mulch
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And the warranty, yes

cyan vault
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If I order from america and get it shipped to UK can I still have it?

tender mulch
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Of course

cyan vault
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Dab

tender mulch
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you'll just have to pay VAT on it

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Better to order locally if you can in the EU

cyan vault
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No

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I dont have to pay for shipping

tender mulch
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25% VAT though

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to bring something into the country

cyan vault
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My mom works with the US government so they pay that for us

tender mulch
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Ah, you're lucky!!

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Carry on!

woven tartan
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for some reason msi afterburner doesnt apply my OC when i start my pc i have to select the oc that i saved anyone know how to fix?

tender mulch
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Start with WIndows checked?

woven tartan
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yes

tender mulch
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There's another setting, I'm looking for it

woven tartan
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no rush

tender mulch
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It looks like ther eis a menu option missing

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Investigating......

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Ah

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found it